Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Alberto Falcone

[ultimatefan]

I think a lot of the villain talk we been hearing is misleading, just like the one about CW not being in the movie, for all we know now JGL may not even be playing a villain.

[kvz5]

I think a lot of the villain talk we been hearing is misleading, just like the one about CW not being in the movie, for all we know now JGL may not even be playing a villain.

That's true. Even Variety is just speculating with his role and knows nothing.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

So happy Levitt is in. This is so great. God, July 2012, will be so epic. Dark Knight Rises, and Amazing Spider-Man both within two weeks of eachother....like my god.

[Nirvana]

Glad he's confirmed.

[Rowsdower!]

Very exciting. Hopefully when the first teaser hits, we'll get a clue as to who he is playing. The secrecy indicates to me that he is a villain, but perhaps not.

I just hope it isn't Robin. I don't ever want to see Robin in a Nolan film.

[Banana-Hotdog]

I can't see Joseph Gordon Levitt as Black Mask or Deadshot. (then again I couldn't picture Heath Ledger as The Joker and look at how well that turned out!)

I picture JGL more as the new District Attorney who is eager to be seen as the hero Harvey Dent was. He's trying to take the place of the White Knight and goes overboard because he is so dead-set on catching Batman.
That's my prediction. I'm even putting it in my sig so I can say "I was right all along" or people can say "you were dead wrong, Banana-hotdog!" when the truth comes out.

[LegendaryCaleb]

not a bad prediction there...i like the idea of that...i really would love him as joker but that will never happen so this seems like a more reasonable* option

[Dark Sentinel]

I know it's been said, but JGL has gotta be Alberto Falcone, especially if TDKR brings the trilogy full circle with BB.

[Avengers-Report]

I know it's been said, but JGL has gotta be Alberto Falcone, especially if TDKR brings the trilogy full circle with BB.

My thoughts exactly.

[Mercurius]

not a bad prediction there...i like the idea of that...i really would love him as joker but that will never happen so this seems like a more resonable option

The same here about Levitt as the Joker.

I trust Nolan, he has already proved he's on top of his game, but the prospects with the Al Gh'ul clan, a Falcone Jr. and Bane are difficult to end the bat series in the same level of Dark Knight.

Catwoman may be the important ingredient to add something in the mix, so: I dunno.

I'll just sit back and wait for Nolan to surprise me, as he already did. Twice.

[Sikyon]

It's kind of ironic that a lot of people wanted him for a Joker recast and now the Joker's not in the movie but he actually is.

The idea of him as Alberto Falcone excites me. They could do a lot with that.

[CrypticOne]

I'm glad JGL is finally in! Man, this movie has a great cast so far. With still more to come!

[HolyPurpleSocks]

Excited he's confirmed. I'm betting he'll be a GCPD young and upcoming officer. Trying to make a name for himself by capturing Batman.

His arc will reflect Bruce's in BB, being humbled by the second act, and then helping him rather than chasing him.

[batsfan81]

So glad to see he's confirmed. Amazing cast and it seems Supes is following suit.

[jmc]

Calling it - non villain role.

[Keyser Soze]

I think it's funny how, for every film, people complain about how Nolan has too many stars in his cast and the film will be overwhelmed. They did it for Batman Begins, and the large cast worked out fine. They did it more for The Dark Knight, and that worked out even better. Now we're hearing it again for The Dark Knight Rises.

[Doctor Jones]

Glad to hear it's been confirmed. It lessens some of the confusion with theories.

I highly doubt he'll be playing a villain. He could either be a cop in Gordon's unit (preferably) or he could be another AMH type. I doubt we won't find out much about him until closer to release. It could be one of those secret things we over speculate where it doesn't turn out to be much.

[Rodrigo90]

Another rumour I heard is that Falcone dies in Arkham and Alberto and Selina Kyle attend his funeral. Alberto kills Sal Maroni and takes over.

But it would lazy to retrace all of the storylines in Begins. So it might be false.

[the amazing fro]

My gut feeling is black mask. I think bane pretty much makes deadshot irrelevant and Alberto Falcone is meh. So yeah I'm going with Black Mask.

[Van Petrol]

Glad to hear it's been confirmed. It lessens some of the confusion with theories.

I highly doubt he'll be playing a villain. He could either be a cop in Gordon's unit (preferably) or he could be another AMH type. I doubt we won't find out much about him until closer to release. It could be one of those secret things we over speculate where it doesn't turn out to be much.

I'd be lying if I say I wouldn't be slightly underwhelmed if his role turns out to be something along those lines.

[darthlaney]

I still want him for the Joker. I kind wish that Warners had said no to using him, with the plan to make him the Joker in future 'non-Nolan' continuing Batman movies

[Crockett]

For me it doesn't matter if he's a villain or not, I'm just thrilled that JGL is confirmed.

[ultimatefan]

Remember when they wouldn´t say what role C Thomas Howell was playing? There were tons of speculation on various villain roles, and in the end it was a pretty small role.

[BH/HHH]

I think he's gonna be Alberto Falcone. Gary Oldman said this film brings it full circle with Batman Begins; with Talia Al Ghul & Alberto Falcone seems very likely to me.

[Van Petrol]

I think he's gonna be Alberto Falcone. Gary Oldman said this film brings it full circle with Batman Begins; with Talia Al Ghul & Alberto Falcone seems very likely to me.

I think so too. However, I wouldn't mind seeing Black Mask at all.

[Doctor Jones]

I'd just lower your expectations guys. Now it's possible it could be something bigger, but it could either way. This could be another AMH fiasco all over again. I don't want to live through that again. Even if I was lurking at that time, coming here every day to see that was annoying as ****.

[itsthebatman]

I'd just lower your expectations guys. Now it's possible it could be something bigger, but it could either way. This could be another AMH fiasco all over again. I don't want to live through that again. Even if I was lurking at that time, coming here every day to see that was annoying as ****.
JGL is in a different league to AMH, though, he's a rising star. I would be shocked if it's not a major supporting role, and Alberto (or Mario?) Falcone would not be a surprise.

[8Diagrams(WU)]

If they are keeping his character private its because its a large role in the story. Hes playing some sort of known character. Falcone, Joker, Black Mask, etc etc.

[TheBatman072]

If they are keeping his character private its because its a large role in the story. Hes playing some sort of known character. Falcone, Joker, Black Mask, etc etc.

:lmao:

[R3M3D1]

I would have preferred Nolan not rehash the cast of Inception, but whatever. I will be very against Marion Cotillard joining the cast, though.

She's a great actress when speaking in her own dialect, but whenever she speaks English I feel like it automatically undermines her performance.

It might seem like a trivial complaint or nitpick but for most of Inception I had a hard time understanding her dialogue.
I had that problem with Ken Watanabe but he was still awesome. Didn't have a problem with Marion though.

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

:lmao:

Yeah people need to drop this Joker nonsence and fast.

Nolan has said that The Joker will NOT be in The Dark Knight Rises... he doesn't feel ''comforatable'' with it.

And why would Levitt want to do a cheap imitation of his friend Ledger anyway... That would be two steps back in his career and you know Nolan wouldn't do that to him.

[Sith Scotti]

I will drink my own piss if he is playing the Joker

[Blader5489]

We might know who JGL is playing this weekend:

http://twitter.com/TheInSneider

I think I've pinned down who @HitRECordJoe is playing in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. The @Variety story will be updated before it hits print Mon.
about 2 hours ago via web

[Rodrigo90]

The theme to me sounds like 'children'. Talia, daughter of Batman's mentor. Picking up where her father left off. Alberto, son of Gotham's former crime boss. Claiming the mantle from Maroni,which is rightfully his.

And I bet Catwoman is Falcone's daughter.

[the amazing fro]

I will drink my own piss if he is playing the Joker

A month ago or so I said I would do the same if Talia was in this film.... which is now looking more and more likely :dry:

[Yurka]

Right after DK came out, if you would have told this board that JGL was gonna be in the next one I bet 90% would think he was replacing Heath.

I dont think he'll be a villain, my guess is a new Batman-hating DA.

[8Diagrams(WU)]

:lmao:

Be respectful. You may disagree, but this childish mockery isnt needed. This is a forum and people are allowed to have opinions.

[Blader5489]

Be respectful. You may disagree, but this childish mockery isnt needed. This is a forum and people are allowed to have opinions.

It's not a matter of opinion though.

Nolan has said very little about who is doing what in DKR, but he been repeatedly explicit about the fact that the Joker will *not* be in the film.

[Dark Knight]

Nice! JGL officially in TDKR!

Let a new round of speculation begin regarding who he is playing now with Variety suggesting Deadshot and Riddler? :whatever:

I don't think so....more than likely he will be Black Mask or Alberto Falcone.

BTW, The next idiot that says "oh, this going to be the The Dark Inception" I will slice and dice them up with my katana blade! :o

Juno Temple. A street smart Gotham girl huh? Maybe she will be Selina Kyles'/Catwoman's friend from the Narrows?

[Franklin Richards]

It's not a matter of opinion though.

Nolan has said very little about who is doing what in DKR, but he been repeatedly explicit about the fact that the Joker will *not* be in the film.

Because movie execs never mislead or lie to maintain some sort of surprise when the film comes out.

No reason to take some sort of moral high ground. The fact is that you don't have dinner with Nolan. You don't have his ear. You know JACK ****!


So come down off your high horse and let people have fun with their speculations.


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[brett66]

So come down off your high horse and let people have fun with their speculations.


Thank you.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Ed Nygma. Criminal profiler. Or Black Mask. I want one of those.

[craigdbfan]

Is it wrong that somewhere inside me I'm deeply hoping that he'll be playing Robin?

I know its reaching seeing as Nolan hasn't ever shown an interest in the character, but deep down I'm kind of hoping for that to happen.

Don't kill me. :(

[hatebox]

I'll kill you!!!

[Yurka]

Robins already being played by Juno Temple :o

[Happy Jack]

I'm glad JGL is confirmed for the movie, but it would be nice to know who he's playing.

I find it unfortunate that some are jumping to conclusions that Nolan is including too many characters when absolutely no details about the story have been revealed, let alone who Levitt or Cotillard (if she's in it) are playing. All I know is Nolan said this film is to be the conclusion of Bruce Wayne's story, the one that's been developing through the two previous movies.

[kvz5]

I'm glad JGL is confirmed for the movie, but it would be nice to know who he's playing.

I find it unfortunate that some are jumping to conclusions that Nolan is including too many characters when absolutely no details about the story have been revealed, let alone who Levitt or Cotillard (if she's in it) are playing. All I know is Nolan said this film is to be the conclusion of Bruce Wayne's story, the one that's been developing through the two previous movies.

Same here. I would be nervous as well with the inclusion of too many new characters BUT Nolan's statement that this movie will be all about "ending BRUCE WAYNE'S STORY" has calmed me. I trust that Nolan will do it right and each new character will be relevant to Bruce's story and by the end of the movie, we'll have the feeling that TDKR was all about Bruce and Batman.

[kvz5]

http://twitter.com/#!/TheInSneider/status/49194570948427776

@TheInSneider
Jeff Sneider
Everyone sit tight. Still need to make a couple more calls and give WARNER BROS. a heads-up before posting JGL's role in DARK KNIGHT RISES.

[craigdbfan]

Yippee!

[p.marlowe]

I would say Deadshot or Alberto Falcone. That's my two cents.

[Excelsior.]

If he is Deadshot, it will effectively render Gotham Knights not canon.

[weezerspider]

I always get a TAD worried about too many characters because it has caused many problems before (Spiderman 3, Iron Man 2). That said, both BB and TDK had plenty of big characters that were not forced or that took away too much/too little screen time.

[sly]

If Hugo Strange is in the movie, I hope JGL is playing Falcone. If Strange is not in the movie, I hope JGL is playing Deadshot or Black Mask.

All signs story wise seem to be pointing to Falcone, though.

[Rodrigo90]

TDK was way overcrowed with characters and storylines,but it still paced out well.

[Visceral]

Still waiting for michael beihn to get cast.

[Dark Knight]

http://twitter.com/#!/TheInSneider/status/49194570948427776


Whoever has tweaker twitter should ask this guy if he can at least give a hint or clue as to who JGL is playing?

[Two-Face]

JGL is playing Alberto Falcone I'm sure of it. I doubt he's playing Dick Grayson or Azreal.

[jmc]

Non-villain, still calling it.

[Sith Scotti]

He will be a copper see

[Franklin Richards]

NO MORE DEAD KAWPS!!!


:ff: :ff: :ff:

[Yurka]

Non-villain, still calling it.

Agreed.

Arthur Reeves!

[Dark Knight]

JGL is playing Alberto Falcone I'm sure of it. I doubt he's playing Dick Grayson or Azreal.


I think it's Alberto Falcone, Roman Sionis (Black Mask) or Detective Eddie Nashton!

[The Riddler]

interesting to see who he is.

i hope cotillard is not confirmed.

[Sith Scotti]

There will be no Ridder or Eddie Nashton Nigma etccc.



Black Mask or Albert Falcone make the most sense if he is a villain , but I could see him as a copper trying to bring down the outlaw known as Batman but changes his mind about Batswhen Bat saves him guys like Bane

[Iceman]

I'm pretty stoked on this confirmation. DKR's potential awesomeness just went up a couple more notches.

[Parquagh]

Joker anyone? Just a small part in the film, maybe Batman interrogating him in Arkham?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rz5lxSDaSpE/SsvcLP5CamI/AAAAAAAABvI/KHELaRWHEO0/s1600/2.jpg

[Two-Face]

I think it's Alberto Falcone, Roman Sionis (Black Mask) or Detective Eddie Nashton![/QUOTE

I don't see him as Black Mask but Det Nigma yes I prefer thst name

[QUOTE=The Riddler;19892909]interesting to see who he is.

i hope cotillard is not confirmed.

Why not?

[Iceman]

Joker anyone? Just a small part in the film, maybe Batman interrogating him in Arkham?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rz5lxSDaSpE/SsvcLP5CamI/AAAAAAAABvI/KHELaRWHEO0/s1600/2.jpgI never thought those two looked similar, but in that pic they really do!

[rashad]

"Archie, slap him, send him to school, 'cause I can't take no more."

[Mercurius]

Joker anyone? Just a small part in the film, maybe Batman interrogating him in Arkham?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rz5lxSDaSpE/SsvcLP5CamI/AAAAAAAABvI/KHELaRWHEO0/s1600/2.jpg


I think Nolan or some other person attached to the project dismissed the Joker rumours.

Which is a shame, cause of course Levitt would be the one that could carry the character along: he resembles Ledger and is such a very good actor.

When Ledger was still alive and the rumours of his acting in DK were already creating a huge hype, I thought the third installment would be a full-fledged Arkham mayhem, along the lines of Morrison/McKean graphic novel.

I was kinda hoping for that to take shape. Anyway: Nolan is to be trusted.

[Sith Scotti]

What is this obeseeion with the Joker . One of my big gripes with the Superman films is the overusage of Lex . I like to see some variety . Joker was great in TDK . Best villain in any superhero film and one of films greatest villains but its a new film . Let other baddies get their spotlight

[HighFivingMF]

JGL's role should be up soon, but I stress reading comprehension, people! JUNO TEMPLE 'being eyed 4 a role' does NOT mean she has been cast!


http://twitter.com/TheInSneider

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Theres def a resemblance between those two. I believe they were friends in real life too. Man Id like to know where this is going to go.

[venus_ice]

Joker anyone? Just a small part in the film, maybe Batman interrogating him in Arkham?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rz5lxSDaSpE/SsvcLP5CamI/AAAAAAAABvI/KHELaRWHEO0/s1600/2.jpg

Never forget they were in 10 Things I Hate About You together

http://joseph-gordon-levitt.net/gallery/albums/PHOTOS/Films/10%20Things%20I%20Hate%20About%20You/Stills/002.jpg

[Caped Crusader]

Never forget they were in 10 Things I Hate About You together

http://joseph-gordon-levitt.net/gallery/albums/PHOTOS/Films/10%20Things%20I%20Hate%20About%20You/Stills/002.jpg
:csad:

[Yurka]

Joker: The Early Years

[treeringralph]

What is this obeseeion with the Joker . One of my big gripes with the Superman films is the overusage of Lex . I like to see some variety . Joker was great in TDK . Best villain in any superhero film and one of films greatest villains but its a new film . Let other baddies get their spotlight

No Joker in TDKR is like Darth Vader never coming back into the picture after spinning out into space at the end of Episode IV.

I don't care what Nolan or his people say. From a storytelling point of view, they HAVE to address the Joker in the series' finale. The way that Joker changed Gotham, Batman's life, and the whole WAY CRIME OPERATES in TDK, you simple can't just say, "and now he's in jail." COP. OUT.

[robthorn24]

I bet no one in their right mind was thinking that they were looking at two potential Batman super-villains back then.

[Wolverine1988]

No Joker in TDKR is like Darth Vader never coming back into the picture after spinning out into space at the end of Episode IV.

I don't care what Nolan or his people say. From a storytelling point of view, they HAVE to address the Joker in the series' finale. The way that Joker changed Gotham, Batman's life, and the whole WAY CRIME OPERATES in TDK, you simple can't just say, "and now he's in jail." COP. OUT.


I am sure he is going to be mentioned several times, just like i am sure Dent will be mentioned a couple times as well.

I mean a freight train like Joker that rolls through Gotham like that doesn't just be forgotten in this film, so i am sure he will be mentioned a few times,

But at the same time no matter what its gonna feel like a copout in a sense, because it's not like Ledger is sitting around waiting for a phone call form Nolan to repires his role, because of the tragedy of his death they really have no choices but to say " hes in jail"

[JP]

Variety_JLD (https://twitter.com/#%21/Variety_JLD) Josh Dickey by Variety



Hey guys, wanna know who Joseph Gordon-Levitt will play in "The Dark Knight Rises"? Go follow @TheInSneider (http://twitter.com/TheInSneider) right now, or stay tuned ...


My body is ready.

[kvz5]

Falcone!!!

http://www.showblitz.com/2011/03/jgls-dark-knight-rises-role-revealed.html


JGL'S 'DARK KNIGHT RISES' ROLE REVEALED!!!

http://weblogs.variety.com/.a/6a00d8341bfc7553ef014e86d55c5f970d-pi

Joseph Gordon-Levitt's will play Alberto Falcone, son of Mafia chieftain Carmine Falcone, who Tom Wilkinson played in “Batman Begins,” insiders tell Variety's Jeff Sneider. The younger Falcone would bring Christopher Nolan’s “Batman” trilogy full-circle, and fits with the director's stated intentions for continuity and “realistic” villains.

Read more: http://www.showblitz.com/#ixzz1H5xGWM44
Visit Variety.com to become a Variety subscriber.

[The Riddler]

I think it's Alberto Falcone, Roman Sionis (Black Mask) or Detective Eddie Nashton![/QUOTE

I don't see him as Black Mask but Det Nigma yes I prefer thst name



Why not?

so people can stop talking about talia. it's a lame idea.

[Boom]

I'm perfectly fine with JGL as Falcone.

I'm just too ****ing happy he isn't Deadshot or Black Mask.

[Figs]

So now that it's confident to say the LoS and Talia will most likely not be in this film, I think some people can stop worrying about the film being overcrowded.

[The Riddler]

seemed like the most logical choice. good.

[venus_ice]

My god

i hope he's in a suit through the entire movie


goddammit that man can wear the **** out of a suit

[Franklin Richards]

BORing.


:D


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[gillberg2k1]

:up:

I had heard that they were going to tie up the Falcone stuff, which is great, and I'm excited that they cast JGL as Alberto. Makes perfect sense.

[treeringralph]

I am sure he is going to be mentioned several times, just like i am sure Dent will be mentioned a couple times as well.

I mean a freight train like Joker that rolls through Gotham like that doesn't just be forgotten in this film, so i am sure he will be mentioned a few times,

But at the same time no matter what its gonna feel like a copout in a sense, because it's not like Ledger is sitting around waiting for a phone call form Nolan to repires his role, because of the tragedy of his death they really have no choices but to say " hes in jail"

Again, if they simply "mentioned (Darth Vader) a couple times" in Empire Strikes Back, how would you have felt about the series? I mean, Vader turned the galaxy upside down!

[Boom]

I wasn't high on the Falcones returning, but considering the other characters JGL could have been, I can get behind it.

Huge sigh of relief for me :up:.

[jmc]

I'm perfectly fine with JGL as Falcone.

I'm just too ****ing happy he isn't Deadshot or Black Mask.

I agree with that.

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Nice. Hes going to be a kick as Alberto. Its the league and the falcones back to settle the score with batman.

[Caped Crusader]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/vinrich/Batman/The%20Dark%20Knight%20Rises/JGL-AF.jpg

http://batman-news.com/2011/03/19/joseph-gordon-levitt-is-alberto-falcone-in-the-dark-knight-rises/

[Keyser Soze]

He's definitely got the resemblance. Now we'll just have to wait and see if it's just Albert Falcone we're getting, or Holiday too.

[Yurka]

Im happy he isn't Black Mask or Strange for Gods sake. The mob still has to be around so I guess I'm happy with this.

[Stringer]

Yeah it's cool how Nolan hasn't turned his back on the mob element in this one.

[Caped Crusader]

Blame Dent's killing's on Alberto! :woot:

[ChrisB]

Update from Variety here:
http://batman-news.com/2011/03/19/joseph-gordon-levitt-is-alberto-falcone-in-the-dark-knight-rises/

This isn't "official" yet! Though very likely....

[RoughNTumble]

it's the role he's best suited for

was worried nolan was just gonna cram him in, but this is truly good casting

[KRIM]

Out of all the rumored possibilities, this is the one I'd be least against. A bit of a small role for JGL, but I'd rather take that than have him be anyone major and compete with the bigger baddies.

I'm down. :up:

[kvz5]

it's the role he's best suited for

was worried nolan was just gonna cram him in, but this is truly good casting

Agreed. I'm very happy with this news. :yay:

[KalMart]

It's the mob family that takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

[Grayson]

Nice. Hes going to be a kick as Alberto. Its the league and the falcones back to settle the score with batman.

lol, plus Bane and Catwoman. This movie already sounds like a mess.

[Grayson]

so people can stop talking about talia. it's a lame idea.

Finally, someone agrees with me.
Bringing the league back into the trilogy is a stupid idea.

[brett66]

Nice. It'd be cool to have a scene where he visits his looney pops in arkham, or wherever he was hidden away.

[Franklin Richards]

I agree. Bringing back the offspring of a villain from the first movie is a bad idea.



Oh wait.


:batman: :batman: :batman:

[Franklin Richards]

Doubly so.

:batman: :batman: :batman:

[Jick09]

What happens to Holiday at the end of The Long Halloween?
Does he die? I can't seem to remember.

[The Englishman]

lol, plus Bane and Catwoman. This movie already sounds like a mess.
:doh: :facepalm: :wall:

Seen as we know nothing about the movies story, yeah it sounds like a real big mess........

[Sith Scotti]

Great casibf . Maybe Marion was suppose to be Sofia rather than Talia. Which would make sense for the Catwoman story . This is going to have a Dark Victory influence . Fine by me!

[The Joker]

What happens to Holiday at the end of The Long Halloween?
Does he die? I can't seem to remember.

No, he gets put in jail at the end. In Dark Victory he's in Arkham, but gets paroled. He's eventually murdered by his sister, Sofia.

[KalMart]

lol, plus Bane and Catwoman. This movie already sounds like a mess.

Takes a lot of people to make up for not having the Joker, apparently.

[Van Petrol]

If Marion is Sofia, then this all sounds like it's turning into a Catwoman movie rather than a Batman one. Sounds like Nolan is rebooting the Catwoman franchise for WB in his final Bat-film. A movie within a movie, as you say.. :o

[Boom]

If Cotillard is in, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for either DA Janice Porter or Sophia Falcone.

The inclusion of Alberto just makes me hate the idea of Talia and the LoS even more.

[Hurm...]

I agree. Bringing back the offspring of a villain from the first movie is a bad idea.



Oh wait.


:batman: :batman: :batman:
Agreed.

[BatmanBeyond]

If Cotillard is in, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for either DA Janice Porter or Sophia Falcone.

The inclusion of Alberto just makes me hate the idea of Talia and the LoS even more.

Indeed. I just hope that Alberto has learned his lesson from his father's dealings with the LoS and there won't be any reason for another similar collaboration in the movie.

[Dragon_316ca]

lol, plus Bane and Catwoman. This movie already sounds like a mess.

I would recommend people like you should read this post before coming up with your own final judgement:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1345836/board/nest/179915701

[Hurm...]

If Cotillard is in, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for either DA Janice Porter or Sophia Falcone.

The inclusion of Alberto just makes me hate the idea of Talia and the LoS even more.Same here. The idea seems a bit tacked on. But I'll wait until we get plot details until I get angry.

[Sith Scotti]

No Joker in TDKR is like Darth Vader never coming back into the picture after spinning out into space at the end of Episode IV.

I don't care what Nolan or his people say. From a storytelling point of view, they HAVE to address the Joker in the series' finale. The way that Joker changed Gotham, Batman's life, and the whole WAY CRIME OPERATES in TDK, you simple can't just say, "and now he's in jail." COP. OUT.

Thats just ridiculous . Batman had 70 years of history with other villains . Star Was a saga about Darth vade and Luke Skywalker with no other history before the films

[Van Petrol]

So now that it's confident to say the LoS and Talia will most likely not be in this film, I think some people can stop worrying about the film being overcrowded.

I disagree at this point in time.

[Ipodman]

If Marion is Sofia, then this all sounds like it's turning into a Catwoman movie rather than a Batman one. Sounds like Nolan is rebooting the Catwoman franchise for WB in his final Bat-film. Amovie wihin a movie, as you say.. :o

LOL.

At least JGL is not Hugo Strange or something... 2 major villains is enough chaos...

[Jick09]

No, he gets put in jail at the end. In Dark Victory he's in Arkham, but gets paroled. He's eventually murdered by his sister, Sofia.
Thanks. I recall, now.

Nice to have JGL playing Alberto. I can totally see him doing the part.

Having Cotillard playing District Attorney Janice Porter would indeed be great. It'd make things even more complicated for Batman.

[venus_ice]

He looks quite like Falcone-like here

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10600000/JGL-Hosts-SNL-11-21-2009-joseph-gordon-levitt-10658888-500-334.jpg

The hair is quite good

[Gianakin_]

Good news, plus it should put some worries about the movie being too crowded at rest.

[robthorn24]

So what do you all think? Will we get to see the Holiday Killer angle? Or will JGL simply play Alberto Falcone?

[Boom]

No Joker in TDKR is like Darth Vader never coming back into the picture after spinning out into space at the end of Episode IV.

I don't care what Nolan or his people say. From a storytelling point of view, they HAVE to address the Joker in the series' finale. The way that Joker changed Gotham, Batman's life, and the whole WAY CRIME OPERATES in TDK, you simple can't just say, "and now he's in jail." COP. OUT.
1) Darth Vader came back in ESB because he escaped in ANH - leaving it completely open for him to return with little explanation. The Joker was apprehended. If you can't see the distinction between these two scenarios, then there's no point in arguing further with you.

2) Yes, The Joker changed Gothman, Batman's life, and the whole way crime operates. And I'm sure we'll see the effects of that in TDKR. The Joker's impact and influence will be apparent in TDKR - even if he makes no physical appearance.

3) Nolan has said, point blank, that The Joker will not be back. Heath Ledger was his Joker, and Heath Ledger is gone. Nolan is not obligated to re-address the character if it makes him uncomfortable.

[Sith Scotti]

If Marion is Sofia, then this all sounds like it's turning into a Catwoman movie rather than a Batman one. Sounds like Nolan is rebooting the Catwoman franchise for WB in his final Bat-film. A movie within a movie, as you say.. :o

No more than the TDK being a Harvey Dent film ./ The plot will tie back to Batman , and I fully expect Selena to have the same type role that Harvey had in TDK . . The mass hysteria is ludicrious right now

[Figs]

I disagree at this point in time.

Perfectly fair.

They very well could show up, but I personally don't think so.

[Boom]

I'm guessing that we're just getting Alberto Falcone. No Holiday Killer.

[Lando81]

I'm guessing that we're just getting Alberto Falcone. No Holiday Killer.

I have to agree with you. I have a feeling the "Holiday Killer" role will be played by Bane, hired by Alberto to scare the other gangs into giving him control. While I believe Bane will have a different motive as well, this would work best to introduce him.

[Van Petrol]

Perfectly fair.

They very well could show up, but I personally don't think so.

Quite possibly my friend. But I don't want to say one way or the other when the opposite possibility is still possible.

[The Joker]

I hope there's no Talia or LOS in the movie in any shape or form. No interest in it.

[The Demon's Head]

My gut tells me Marion is playing Sofia instead of Talia.

[Wolverine1988]

I have to agree with you. I have a feeling the "Holiday Killer" role will be played by Bane, hired by Alberto to scare the other gangs into giving him control. While I believe Bane will have a different motive as well, this would work best to introduce him.

I could live with that, If Bane does the dirty work but in the end he has plans of his own.

As long as Bane isn't just simplified to another do the dirty work muscle man but instead has some sort or plan in his mind and is working for him self in a sense that he has a bigger goal in mind, make him more than just muscle , make him a muscle guy with a plan is way more interesting than jsut some typical do the dirty work number 2 guy

[Lando81]

My gut tells me Marion is playing Sofia instead of Talia.

We can only hope so since it looks like TDKR is diving head first into the mob business this time around.

[Franklin Richards]

So why wouldn't the League return? You think it's too busy? Batman Begins had a Mob Plot going on at the same time as a Ninja plot was happening. Was Begins too busy?


:batman: :batman: :batman:

[Wolverine1988]

The only problem with Marion playing Sophia is can she hide her accent?It would be strange if she has a european accent while the son and father are American sounding, unless its explained that Carmine was plugging several woman and one of them was a european woman, which is plausable but would seem a bit pointless

[KalMart]

The only problem with Marion playing Sophia is can she hide her accent?It would be strange if she has a european accent while the son and father are American sounding, unless its explained that Carmine was plugging several woman and one of them was a european woman, which is plausable but would seem a bit pointless

Plugging European women is never pointless. It's a point in and of itself, really.

[Lando81]

I could live with that, If Bane does the dirty work but in the end he has plans of his own.

As long as Bane isn't just simplified to another do the dirty work muscle man but instead has some sort or plan in his mind and is working for him self in a sense that he has a bigger goal in mind, make him more than just muscle , make him a muscle guy with a plan is way more interesting than jsut some typical do the dirty work number 2 guy

I think it's confirmed Nolan has much respect for the character and acknowledges the fact that Bane is of genius intellect.

[Boom]

Don't forget, guys. Jett said teh plot outline is true.

So Talia and the LoS are in :csad:.

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[KalMart]

So why wouldn't the League return? You think it's too busy? Batman Begins had a Mob Plot going on at the same time as a Ninja plot was happening. Was Begins too busy?


:batman: :batman: :batman:

It could be cool if Batman/Wayne dies at the end of this film, but secretly, he survives and continues on as the new leader of a reformed League Of Shadows. ;)

[Lando81]

Don't forget, guys. Jett said teh plot outline is true.

So Talia and the LoS are in :csad:.

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The fact that Alberto wasn't mentioned in the outline makes me hopeful that Jett will finally bite his tongue and SHUT THE HELL UP.

[Franklin Richards]

You a Batfan, Bieb?


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[20thCenturyBoy]

I'm guessing that we're just getting Alberto Falcone. No Holiday Killer.

Me too. I imagine Alberto will be a mix of the Alberto characters traits (Neurotic, emotionally unstable etc.) with the other Falcone brother whose name escapes me.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a freak element to the character, though obviously not holiday. Unless they make him the last of Gotham's big crime bosses trying his damndest to either prevent the freaks from taking over, or using them to his advantage.

If the plot summary IS true and Alberto is the LoS "Ally" in Gotham... then we have a bit of a narrative problem.

[Ponyboy]

Christ. If Nolan puts any more characters in this film it's gonna be a bat-orgy. Levitt is a good actor though...

[Hunter Rider]

I hope not, I was loving the idea of him as Deadshot.

[Boom]

Christian Bale ... Bruce Wayne / Batman
Michael Caine ... Alfred Pennyworth
Gary Oldman ... Jim Gordon
Morgan Freeman ... Lucius Fox
Anne Hathaway ... Selina Kyle / Catwoman
Tom Hardy ... Bane
Joseph Gordon-Levitt ... Alberto Falcone

[venus_ice]

If Nolan puts any more characters in this film it's gonna be a bat-orgy

I'm very interested in this bat-orgy you speak of :awesome:

[Doctor Jones]

Wow, I was really wrong here. I'm very glad he's playing Alberto. A fine choice. Now it hopefully seems to throw off Talia and the League returning.

Now it gets me thinking that Marion could be Sophia or Porter and that they could epxlore Selina as the daughter of Carmine if they're bringing all of this into it.

Any of this is better than the League.

[Excelsior.]

Could Juno Temple be Kitrina Falcone?

[Dark Knight]

It's pretty much official. JGL is Alberto Falcone! Solid casting!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118034129

[HighFivingMF]

I think this disproves Jett and the plot outline... Why would the League of Shadows have Alberto in tow?

[Boom]

Because Ra's and the League of Shadows had Carmine Falcone in tow.

Teh full circlez!!1

[Dark Knight]

It's pretty much official. JGL is Alberto Falcone! Solid casting!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118034129

[Boom]

Warner Bros. and reps for both thesps declined to comment on casting and character rumors.
I think we all know how this game is played :awesome:.

[BatmanBeyond]

Because Ra's and the League of Shadows had Carmine Falcone in tow.

Teh full circlez!!1

:awesome:

It'd also be repetitive if they had another one of the offspring of one of Batman's adversaries from Begins, now that Alberto has been confirmed. So yeah, things not looking good for Marion as Talia...

[TheScarecrow]

Christ. If Nolan puts any more characters in this film it's gonna be a bat-orgy. Levitt is a good actor though...

Seriously? Are people even thinking before they say this?

Batman, Alfred, Lucius and Gordon were all in TDK.

Catwoman will have Dent's amount of screentime, Bane will have The Joker's level of screentime. Falcone=Maroni - which still leaves Rachel's amount of screentime for a MAIN character before we even get into the slew of supporting characters that are in TDK.

Nevermind Begins, which had more characters than TDK.

*shakes head*

[weezerspider]

There won't be too many characters. Look at it this way:

TDK= TDKR
Batman=Batman duh
Joker= Bane. They both are the main villain
Catwoman = Dent AND Rachel. She'll be the new hero/villain and love interest
Maroni = Alberto Falcone. Main Mob guy.

There were a ton of characters in TDK( and really BB too) and Nolan handled it well.

[Boom]

Catwoman will have Dent's amount of screentime, Bane will have The Joker's level of screentime. Falcone=Maroni.
Really? You've read the script?

This argument is one of the most ridiculous things ever committed to this board - especially considering how little we know. There is no science to how much screentime a character is going to get, especially in relation to different characters from different movies.

They'll have as much as the story calls for.

[AntMan]

I really don't want to see The League of Shadows again.

[Paste Pot Pete]

This definitely lends more credence to, if not confirms, the Selina/Falcone connection.

I knew Nolan wasn't done mining the work of Loeb/Sale.

[raybia]

If Cotillard is in, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for either DA Janice Porter or Sophia Falcone.

The inclusion of Alberto just makes me hate the idea of Talia and the LoS even more.

Agreed. Nolan may go with Selina being a Falcone as well.

[raybia]

This definitely lends more credence to, if not confirms, the Selina/Falcone connection.

I knew Nolan wasn't done mining the work of Loeb/Sale.

Didn't see your post. I agree with the Falcone connection with Selina. Loeb/Sale are legendary!

[Yurka]

"Headed by Talia Al’Ghul. With Bane, who is her muscle/possible love interest. And with Joseph Gordon-Levitt in tow. Is he playing Black Mask? My source didn’t know, but did know that Levitt is certainly an antagonist and involved with the League of Shadows."

So this could still very well be true.

[DCRanger]

Me too. I imagine Alberto will be a mix of the Alberto characters traits (Neurotic, emotionally unstable etc.).

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a freak element to the character, though obviously not holiday. Unless they make him the last of Gotham's big crime bosses trying his damndest to either prevent the freaks from taking over, or using them to his advantage.



Nolan will make all of this work. I like the idea of Alberto being the last of Gotham's crime bosses using the "freaks" to his advantage... thus Bane later exposing an agenda of his own.

JGL and Tom Hardy played off of one another so well in Inception... I can't wait to see how they play off each other in DKR.

[Excelsior.]

Yea, I don't see how being Alberto Falcone suddenly negates the LOS.

[Boom]

Headed by Talia Al’Ghul. With Bane, who is her muscle/possible love interest. And with Alberto Falcone in tow.

Hmm.

Headed by Ra's Al’Ghul. With Scarecrow, who is his "muscle." And with Carmine Falcone in tow.

This is fun :woot:.

[Excelsior.]

Maybe the obvious connection is intentional to bring the series back "full circle".

[Boom]

They should probably resurrect Bruce's parents too. Just to drive the point home even further :up:.

Before people flip out, I'm mostly pulling legs at this point :cwink:.

[Visceral]

Falcone hiring Bane?


I have a feeling that Nolan will very much alter the character of Alberto.

This is super interesting as the death of Two-face completely alters the Dark Victory storyline.

[Yurka]

They should probably resurrect Bruce's parents too. Just to drive the point home even further :up:.

Before people flip out, I'm mostly pulling legs at this point :cwink:.

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[Boom]

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[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Falcone hiring Bane?

I thought the same thing.

[The Demon's Head]

Everytime I think of Alberto showing up in TDKR, I'm reminded of Robert Fischer.

[Lando81]

Seriously? Are people even thinking before they say this?

Batman, Alfred, Lucius and Gordon were all in TDK.

Catwoman will have Dent's amount of screentime, Bane will have The Joker's level of screentime. Falcone=Maroni - which still leaves Rachel's amount of screentime for a MAIN character before we even get into the slew of supporting characters that are in TDK.

Nevermind Begins, which had more characters than TDK.

*shakes head*

Yes, because you know all these things.

[Gotham Knight]

If news comes out that the League of Shadows is going to be in the film, I doubt we will get the Holiday Killer. That would be an awful lot to deal with in one movie and I don't think Nolan would take a chance like that.

[Infinity9999x]

I think the Holiday Killer subplot is unlikely to be utilized in this movie, it's just a bit much to do with Bane as well. I don't really see a reason to include it, considering that all the reasons why the Holiday Killer did what he did won't be present in this film. (Given that Carmine is in jail and all that).

Not to mention that it's a storyline that would have to be severely retooled for a movie anyways. It was a huge comic arc, it would require major condensing.

I think it's more likely that Nolan will do with Alberto as he did with Maroni and Falcone, keep the name but basically make them completley different characters from their comic counterparts.

[Visceral]

The casting of this character and the eying of temple shows there will be a lot of exposition for catwoman.

I hope Anne is up to the task it looks like a big one.

[the Wankstar]

Wonder if theyd do a flip and have alberto be the hangman and then they could blame dents murder on him.

I also feel like Marion is gonna be Sofia with Bane basically coming in and killing all of the mob off and Bats in the moral grey zone of if he should stop him or not

[batboy99]

Not suprised by this. He's a great choice for Alberto.

Also, has Marion been officially cast?

[Darkness Falls]

loving this news :D

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Awesome news the posibilities are endless with where they are going with this whole thing. I must say the league coming back is cool and I think its going to be an all out war against batman, police, league, falcones, freaks all out to finish batman and catwoman is an ally at some point.

[Marvin]

Ra's daughter, Carmine's son.
yea but why the inception cast...

[Excelsior.]

why the inception castBecause Nolan liked working with them?

[Iceman]

& they're some pretty good actors!

[marvelrobbins]

As with batman begins Alberto Falcone will most likely be working witht he league of shadows.Bane will probally be one dealing with Alberto.

Nolan may work In Selina Kyle believes Carmine Falcone Is her biological Father.

Talia will likely be playing the Ducard rold here.Perhapes Talia becomes Involved with Bruce.Catwoman may be stealing from Falcone family and ends up helping Batman against the LOS.The only romance may be Catwoman coming on to batman.

[Happy Jack]

I was expecting him to be Alberto Falcone and I'm glad he is. The use of the mob in the story isn't over, it's going to be interesting to see how it's used.

[General Vulcun]

Ra's daughter, Carmine's son.
yea but why the inception cast...

Because they happen to be the best actors for their roles?

[CrypticOne]

I knew JGL was gonna be Alberto Falcone! I knew it! Awesome news.

:up::up:

[MessiahDecoy123]

JGL improves everything he touches.



Except for GI Joe...what the hell was that about?

[Sawyer]

Nice. :up:

[Eros]

Because they happen to be the best actors for their roles?

Well their the best actor for their role according to ofcourse Nolan, which is what matter, but hell Javier Bardem would of been better for Bane IMO.

[sly]

No Joker in TDKR is like Darth Vader never coming back into the picture after spinning out into space at the end of Episode IV.

Not quite the same thing. Star Wars is the story of Darth Vader. This Nolan trilogy is the story of Batman.


I don't care what Nolan or his people say. From a storytelling point of view, they HAVE to address the Joker in the series' finale.

No one said Joker won't be addressed. You just won't see another actor portray him on film in this trilogy. I'm definitely in your corner when it comes to hoping they do one final "thing" with Joker... whatever that may be.

[Sawyer]

Well their the best actor for their role according to ofcourse Nolan, which is what matter, but hell Javier Bardem would of been better for Bane IMO.

Your point is moot given that we haven't seen either Hardy or Bardem actually play the role.

[Eros]

Your point is moot given that we haven't seen either Hardy or Bardem actually play the role.

hence why its merely my opinion, as bardem is a superior actor and is visually and ethnically closer to the character,

[MessiahDecoy123]

hence why its merely my opinion, as bardem is a superior actor and is visually and ethnically closer to the character,
seconded.

[RoughNTumble]

bardem's half british?

[The Demon's Head]

I called it since the early talks of his invovlement, and I'm really glad that's the role he's playing.

[Lando81]

hence why its merely my opinion, as bardem is a superior actor and is visually and ethnically closer to the character,

Bardem is no where as good of an actor as Hardy. Sorry. YOU'RE WRONG.

[Doctor Who]

Bardem is no where as good of an actor as Hardy. Sorry. YOU'RE WRONG.

Agreed; then again however, Bardem is an Oscar winning actor and many nominations, so he shouldn't be put down too harshly.

[rocco2216]

Didn't Gilda Dent turn out to be the Holiday Killer in The Long Halloween and not Alberto Falcone?

[alexdunn]

I'm calling it, he becomes black mask at the end. Not the skull, just a sleek black mask.

[The Demon's Head]

Based on the fact that Nolan and Goyer are huge fans of TLH, I'm going to call it that Marion Cotilard is playing Sofia. It's going to be awesome.

[Doctor Who]

Didn't Gilda Dent turn out to be the Holiday Killer in The Long Halloween and not Alberto Falcone?

Actually....

It was all Harvey Dent, Gilda Dent, and Alberto Falcone; all three took turns.

[joker1524]

Bardem is no where as good of an actor as Hardy. Sorry. YOU'RE WRONG.

why is he wrong? Bardem has a much better body of work to make a legit arguement...Hardy isnt a bad actor..hes a great actor but to say that Bardem is nowhere near as good of an actor as Hardy is pretty obsurd.

[rocco2216]

Actually....

It was all Harvey Dent, Gilda Dent, and Alberto Falcone; all three took turns.

Oh ok that's right, I need to read it again I only read it once LOL. :word:

[Doctor Who]

Based on the fact that Nolan and Goyer are huge fans of TLH, I'm going to call it that Marion Cotilard is playing Sofia. It's going to be awesome.

It makes more sense than Talia, to be honest; it would be interesting to see what sort of showdown we'd get with Alberto and Sofia though if that's the case. I just would hate to see them deprived of their true selves when they were only meant for one shot stories and proved to be HUGE in LH and DV.

[rocco2216]

why is he wrong? Bardem has a much better body of work to make a legit arguement...Hardy isnt a bad actor..hes a great actor but to say that Bardem is nowhere near as good of an actor as Hardy is pretty obsurd.

I think they're both equally great actually. Clearly this version of Bane (a version we haven't seen before) isn't going to have a skin color like Bardem's. So it really doesn't matter that Nolan didn't cast Bardem. And this movie isn't any of our visions, it's Nolan's. Why is everybody so surprised when Nolan does something none of us would have done LOL. He obviously doesn't think like us (thank God) and can't read our minds LOL.

[Doctor Who]

Oh ok that's right, I need to read it again I only read it once LOL. :word:

It's all good; I'd read Catwoman: When In Rome first to get some back story and then read Long Halloween and Dark Victory afterwards. It's a nice complete circle then.

[The Demon's Head]

Well, they've introduced most of TLH's big players in BB and TDK. The only ones left are Catwoman, Alberto and Sofia.

[rocco2216]

It's all good; I'd read Catwoman: When In Rome first to get some back story and then read Long Halloween and Dark Victory afterwards. It's a nice complete circle then.

Thanks will do :word:

[Marvin]

Because Nolan liked working with them?

that's nice

& they're some pretty good actors!

perhaps

Because they happen to be the best actors for their roles?

Note quite...
casting Kevin Costner as Johnathan Kent is an example of what you're talking about, casting BANE, ALBERTO FALCONE, TALIA AL GAUL with the cast of inception is just a little suspect.
And toss in Anne (sassy) hathaway as Catwoman for good measure.

If anything it will be nolan's take that sells everything, either way it should be interesting.

ps. the mobsters in nolans batman have been very lacking in direction.

[RedIsNotBlue]

If the actor/actress is talented and can play the part then they should be able to play it. It is silly logic for directors not to be able to recast actors/actresses they have previously worked with. I think Levitt will do an excellent job playing Alberto Falcone.

[J.Howlett]

Demon's Head,

I think you might be on to something with Marion playing Sofia. Considering how much the Long Halloween is an influence on this series, it does make total sense that Sofia would show up.

Still, if Oldman says that Nolan brings it all the way back to Begins, we have the Falcone connection with Alberto showing up, it seems logical that Talia could show up as well....

[General Vulcun]

Note quite...
casting Kevin Costner as Johnathan Kent is an example of what you're talking about, casting BANE, ALBERTO FALCONE, TALIA AL GAUL with the cast of inception is just a little suspect.

I don't buy that. To cast them in Inception in the first place means Nolan is aware of their talents, of what they can bring to their roles. So if he liked what he saw out of them so much and decided they were perfect for the roles in Rises, why shouldn't he cast them again?

I seriously doubt Nolan suddenly became so lazy in his casting that he just pulled up a cast list of Inception and decided that the new characters HAD to come from this cast.

To me, he cast them in Rises for the same reasons he cast them in Inception: they are all exceptional acting talents who were able to give Nolan what he wanted.

[RoughNTumble]

At least he's reusing them in small roles. I hate when directors use the same actors in lead roles for every movie they make.

[The Caped Knight]

Joseph Gordon-Levitt is Alberto Falcone

Wow this really brings us back to BATMAN BEGINS awesome, I'm going to assume that Alberto Falcone hires Bane to break the Bat .

[Avengers-Report]

If Alberto does hire Bane to break Batman, then hopefully Bane is not portrayed as just some hired muscle. That would really bother me =[

[20thCenturyBoy]

If Alberto does hire Bane to break Batman, then hopefully Bane is not portrayed as just some hired muscle. That would really bother me =[

And the "Hiring a freak to defeat Batman but the freak double crosses them with his own agenda" scenario sounds vaguly familiar for some odd reason.

[Grayson]

I agree. Bringing back the offspring of a villain from the first movie is a bad idea.



Oh wait.


:batman: :batman: :batman:

That's not my gripe with bringing Talia in.

[the amazing fro]

Wow

I'm shocked. I am genuinley shocked. I seriously thought that there was no way falcone was in this movie. Wow. Ok. I'm interested to see how he ties into the whole story.

[BigEggo]

talia is a rubbish character,and to make a really interesting character (bane) into a henchman just for the sake of bringing in that rubbish character is a depressing thought.


really really hope cotillard is sofia or a new DA or something.anything but talia.

[hatebox]

To cut and paste what I said in the info hunters thread:

It's unlikely JGL will actually be 'Holiday'. There'd be no point in having a reprise of that plot.

In fact he might not have the characteristics of Alberto at all, he could be the character in name only. Perhaps he'll be a lot less nerdier, and we'll be seeing a new breed of mobsters who are even worse just to compete with the freaks.

Either way, I'm content that he's playing Falcone's son.

[Keyser Soze]

Actually....

It was all Harvey Dent, Gilda Dent, and Alberto Falcone; all three took turns.

Actually...

It was only Gilda and Alberto. Gilda was the Holiday killer at first, then when Alberto took over, Gilda ASSUMED Harvey was now the Holiday killer. But Harvey was never actually Holiday at any point, as far as I know.

[The Cocreator]

Please don't make Bane a hired muscle again, that was already done in lets seee, practically every time Bane appeared in any form besides comics:
Batman: TAS, B:TNAS, batman secret of the batwoman, The Batman and in a certain way Batman and Robin

[Mercurius]

Nolan won't make him a hired muscle because he put Tom Hardy to play him. And Tom Hardy is a very good actor one does not spend in breaking bones only.

This movie is going to be some steps down TDK: taking out a very emblematic and charismatic villain that could match Bats' madness in the other extreme and subs him with some mob thugs and Catwoman.

BUT Nolan will certainly envisage this as a closure, so that it really needs to be a little less great than the middle chapter, which is going to be (as it usually is in trilogies) the best.

[Rodrigo90]

I dont mind if Bane STARTS OUT as hired muscle. But having him speak his own mind and plotting to takeover. Calculating and cunning,thats how I see him.

[the amazing fro]

Actually...

It was only Gilda and Alberto. Gilda was the Holiday killer at first, then when Alberto took over, Gilda ASSUMED Harvey was now the Holiday killer. But Harvey was never actually Holiday at any point, as far as I know.

Actually...


Harvey technically is Holiday as well as he commits the final holiday murder- carmine falcone on Halloween. He brings it full circle when Alberto and Gilda are unable to.

[Gianakin_]

I dont mind if Bane STARTS OUT as hired muscle. But having him speak his own mind and plotting to takeover. Calculating and cunning,thats how I see him.

But isn't that Joker in TDK? I think he should be like his Knightfall counterpart. Working on his own, having a mission to break Batman (in whatever way Nolan inteds him to do that).

[TheBatman072]

But isn't that Joker in TDK? I think he should be like his Knightfall counterpart. Working on his own, having a mission to break Batman (in whatever way Nolan inteds him to do that).

Exactly.

[Crockett]

So JGL is Alberto, cool. I would like if they manage to make Wilkinson re-appear just for a short scene in the movie.

[the amazing fro]

But isn't that Joker in TDK? I think he should be like his Knightfall counterpart. Working on his own, having a mission to break Batman (in whatever way Nolan inteds him to do that).

This is exactly how bane should be handled. However if the supposed plot synopsis is correct (fingers crossed its not) then his lone gun shtick is not going to happen.

[Rodrigo90]

But bare in mind,Bane is a top strategist. He works out how and where to strike the most power and weaken his enemy.

Joker in TDK wasn't really an employee of anyone,his way off taking over is going in with all guns blazing and,as Charlie Sheen puts it,winning.

Bane's methods of taking things over in the comics are way different to Joker's. I cant see it being a rehash,in a sense of it being different styles.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

So does this mean that there's no Talia and that the female villian is in fact Sophia? I think Wilkinson will reprise his role and Selina will definitely have ties to the Falcone's. I doubt it's a coincidence they're bringing back the Falcone's and having Catwoman in the film.

[Gianakin_]

I think and hope that Alberto is enough to bring things back to BB. I'm starting to be iffy about Talia and the LoS as of now. Of course, if they're confirmed, I'll give the benefit of the doubt, but I hope Bane and CW will be utilised more.

[BatmanBeyond]

I think and hope that Alberto is enough to bring things back to BB. I'm starting to be iffy about Talia and the LoS as of now. Of course, if they're confirmed, I'll give the benefit of the doubt, but I hope Bane and CW will be utilised more.

This is my hope as well. That's why I'm anxious to have some clarification regarding Cotillard's involvement in the movie.

[ultimatefan]

Alberto Falcone was indeed the most logical choice to cast JGL, and jives with what we been hearing about legacy being a major theme of the movie, and also CW´s current background in comics. being connected to the Falcone family.

[The Demon's Head]

I'm willing to bet 20 bucks on Marion playing Sofia.

[MiniBond]

funny to think that once again the Mob might (and I said "might") play a major part in the movie when some of us thought it was over with the joker's actions in TDK !

Nolan is THE Master :woot::woot:

[Doctor Jones]

I do love the fact that Alberto is in this. Since they're bringing the son in, this will go back to Bruce and his parents. While I think Bane will serve as a mirror to Bruce, Alberto could as well. Maybe even Alberto is trying to ligitimize himself and his name and do some good?

[Marvin]

I don't buy that. To cast them in Inception in the first place means Nolan is aware of their talents, of what they can bring to their roles. So if he liked what he saw out of them so much and decided they were perfect for the roles in Rises, why shouldn't he cast them again?

I seriously doubt Nolan suddenly became so lazy in his casting that he just pulled up a cast list of Inception and decided that the new characters HAD to come from this cast.

To me, he cast them in Rises for the same reasons he cast them in Inception: they are all exceptional acting talents who were able to give Nolan what he wanted.

That's a good point

However you can apply that logic over say a ten movie span and although it would still make sense, one can see how that would become a disservice to the audience by an exponential factor.

Bale could have the talent to be the lead in every Nolan movie made to date...however that would kinda stink.

[Spiderine]

I love it. There is already something personal between Alberto and Batman given what happen to his father. I love the continuity from the first film and everything tying together.

[Gianakin_]

See, things like that make me think that Nolan is always 100% aware of the themes he wants to convey. Leaving the Batcave, the theatricality and the Waynes out of TDK... I'm convinced he's coming back to all that. You don't need a secret organisation to tie things together, when you can do it in a deeper and more subtle way.

[Doctor Jones]

Agreed. I think seeing the League would be a step back. Now I'd be open to see how Nolan would do it, but looking at it right now, I wasn't a fan of the idea at all.

[Doctor Jones]

And after telling my mom the news that he's been cast, she's pretty pleased by it. She's liked him ever since she watched him in his Third Rock From The Sun days and loved how he appeared in Inception.

[Yurka]

And after telling my mom the news that he's been cast, she's pretty pleased by it. She's liked him ever since she watched him in his Third Rock From The Sun days and loved how he appeared in Inception.

Well hot damn its all good then.


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[Doctor Jones]

Well hot damn its all good then.


:oldrazz: :cwink:

My mother's word is the word of God here and across the internet. :o

[Nirvana]

I'm skeptical about JGL playing Alberto, but I'm sure Nolan will do a good job.

[Sith Scotti]

I think it's bot laziness and acting ability. He's lazy for going back to the inception cast sheet but there's no way he would have cast someone if they weren't the right fit for the part.

So Martin Scorcese is lazy as well . Directors like working with those they are familiar wqith if they fit a part . Its not lazy , its knowing what they want and who they trust to give it .

[LuisTX85]

I love that there connecting it back with BB,A true trilogy after all!