OFFICIAL: Chris Evans is Captain America

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[Chewy]

Chris Evans is one step closer to the role of Captain America.

From the Holmby Hills grounds of the Fleur de Lys Estate, where the hoity-toity were bidding on the first Ferrari Italia in the U.S., to the tables of the Spanish Kitchen, the talk Thursday night and Friday was about Evans’ offer of the role of Captain America.

Marvel has not confirmed the development and CAA, which reps the actor, declined to comment.

Evans' offer would include starring in up to three "America" movies plus "The Avengers" movies and appearances in several other Marvel movies. While an offer to star in "America" may seem like something you don't have to mull over too long, one possible complication is that Evans is committed to co-starring in the Anna Faris romantic comedy "What's Your Number?" Both are scheduled to shoot this summer.

The role of Captain America and his alter ego Steve Rogers has been one of the most heavily scrutinized parts by the industry, the media and the comic book fandom in recent memory.

Evans wasn’t in the initial round of actors being considered, which for the most part leaned to the newcomer side. Michael Cassidy, Patrick Flueger, Scott Porter, Wilson Blethel and Mike Vogel, on top of John Krasinski and Chace Crawford, were those testing and reading. Garrett Hedlund was also someone Marvel was interested in.

Evans, who did not screen test, already has a relationship with Marvel, having starred as Johnny Storm, the fire-covered superhero in the two “Fantastic Four” movies that Fox released in 2005 and 2007. There is some question whether fans would be accepting of an actor who already played a Marvel superhero just a few years ago, but given that the movies were not well embraced, with no one faulting the actors, Evans might have a clean slate with moviegoers.

Joe Johnston is directing “America,” which shoots in England.

Evans, also repped by 3 Arts Entertainment, has the DC Comics adaptation “The Losers” in the can and also appears in “Scott Pilgrim vs. the World,” Edgar Wright’s adaptation of the popular Oni Press graphic novel series. SOURCE (http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/03/chris-evans-captain-america.html)

[captainrogers]

Bumping this, 'Cause NOW more than ever, my faith in Mr Evans has sky-rocketed.
Hopefully, after seeing a few more scenes of him in a proper trailer, I'll definitively be able to say:
Official: Chris Evans IS Captain America

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[Spider-Fan]

I was one of the first to have faith in Evans. I am so glad my pick for the role got the role, and I am not surprised at all he looks good in it :up:

[Parker Wayne]

I believed in him from when he was cast too!

[Spider-Fan]

I believed in him from when he was cast too!

We were the few back in those days :)

I still remember the great Evans debates from back when. Good times :up:

[captainrogers]

Ahhh....the haters.

[Gamma Goliath]

Those shots are freaking awesome.

[Compi716]

I still stand by the line in my signature.

[Spider-Fan]

I just really love how Evans looks in the suit. He looks great! The suit looked great in action in the trailer, and it looks like the performances are going to be strong. I can see why Marvel has been waiting on giving us footage. Look at how we're all salivating now!

[Whiskey Tango]

Remember this guy? :awesome:

http://i56.tinypic.com/w9wagz.jpg

I too have felt like Chris was the right choice since the beginning. We won't know for sure until July but all signs point to awesome!

[lixdexia]

i like chris, but i still think jon k would have done a great job:O

[Wolvieboy17]

If JK had bulked up, I could still see him doing a good job, especially with the angle JJ has taken... But it's hard to hold much conviction in that when Evans looks so damn perfect in those pictures.

[captainrogers]

i like chris, but i still think jon k would have done a great job:O

I was surprisingly positive about John K. He was definitely my outta left field pick for Cap. I always cringed at the mere thought/possibility of Tatum getting the role. I wanted John K over Tatum. By a landslide. Evans was a great surprise, because he was usually the high/good point of some of the unfortunate movies he was in.

[lixdexia]

I was surprisingly positive about John K. He was definitely my outta left field pick for Cap. I always cringed at the mere thought/possibility of Tatum getting the role. I wanted John K over Tatum. By a landslide. Evans was a great surprise, because he was usually the high/good point of some of the unfortunate movies he was in.
completely agree

[Wolvieboy17]

Yeah, thats a good point captainrogers, I 100 percent still stand by JK out of that list of contenders. Although I would love for him to play an adult college teaching spidey when Marvel gets the franchise back :D :D :D....Which is bound to happen any day, right?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

i like chris, but i still think jon k would have done a great job:OI agree. I was always in Evans Corner though.

[WillardNation]

I always supported Evans but after seeing the trailer and pics I support this casting a million times harder.

[Wolvieboy17]

Not even just Evans, but I am sold on the entire cast, especially Bucky. I only ever saw that actor in Hot Tub Time Machine and wasn't very impressed (mainly because of the character and the movie in general) but those photos and the trailer, he looks totally bad ass. They are definitely thinking about Winter Soldier further down the line. It's like when we knew Rhodey was in IM and everyone was like "But will he ever be War Machine?!?" and Marvel essentially just winked and gave a knowing smile. I definitely have a feeling we'll see him in later movies.

[Parker Wayne]

Remember this guy? :awesome:

http://i56.tinypic.com/w9wagz.jpg

I too have felt like Chris was the right choice since the beginning. We won't know for sure until July but all signs point to awesome!

Great times on the hype. A lot of people on the hype surprisingly supported it, and Rock Sexton was flipping a s**t about it. If you think he hated Evans, he hated JK a thousand times more.

i like chris, but i still think jon k would have done a great job:O

I think so, but I'm really glad Evans got the role. He looks great for the role.

I was surprisingly positive about John K. He was definitely my outta left field pick for Cap. I always cringed at the mere thought/possibility of Tatum getting the role. I wanted John K over Tatum. By a landslide. Evans was a great surprise, because he was usually the high/good point of some of the unfortunate movies he was in.

This. Evans is a pretty good actor who's been in some bad films.

[Wolvieboy17]

Hahahaha. Remember McPufflin? That was pretty funny.

[flickchick85]

I was a John K. supporter, but even when he was the main candidate, before Evans' name had been thrown into the ring, I remember lamenting with another poster that Evans wasn't an option because we both thought he'd be better than any of the known candidates. So as much as I liked John and thought he was an interesting left-field choice, I've always felt Evans was a 10x better choice overall, and I can't wait to see him in the role.

[Rock Sexton]

Hahahaha. Remember McPufflin? That was pretty funny.

How did I know this was gonna get drug up ..... as if it had anything to do with McPartlin, just concentrated on my lame photoshop attempt at the time. Which is what typically goes on in here.

Definitely not anywhere near as funny as anyone who'd support John Krasinski as Cap. Talk about a crap casting idea if I've ever heard of one. Almost makes me like Chris Evans, that's how bad it was.

[Parker Wayne]

Hahahaha. Remember McPufflin? That was pretty funny.

Haha I did. Rock flipping out over both of them are know pretty hilarious in hindsight.

[Wolvieboy17]

It was all pretty funny Rock... McPufflin versus John 'Big Nose' Goofrinski, as i remember.

[Rock Sexton]

It was all pretty funny Rock... McPufflin versus John 'Big Nose' Goofrinski, as i remember.

I know, but only reason you guys were saying that was because I screwed up with the manip by stretching his face to fit the mask. Ryan McPartlin has anything but a puffy face .... Krasinski on the other hand. LOL

[Whiskey Tango]

How did I know this was gonna get drug up ..... as if it had anything to do with McPartlin, just concentrated on my lame photoshop attempt at the time. Which is what typically goes on in here.

You also came up with Blaine Blumpkin III so you get a pass as far as I'm concerned.

I myself was never sold on John K. I pushed for Jensen Ackles until Evans started becoming a reality.

[Rock Sexton]

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[Wolvieboy17]

Hahaha... You've gotta admit Rock, that photoshop pic looks completely ridiculous compared to what we got.

Hmmm Maybe JK and McPufflin could play the Disney chipmonks in a movie?

[Silvermoth]

I'm so glad JK didn't get the job. He was very wrong for it.

It's definetly looking good so far. It might just be the most successful blockbuster of '11

[flickchick85]

It's definetly looking good so far. It might just be the most successful blockbuster of '11
Financially? Not a chance in hell. But I do think it will do well.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My most hated fan-casting choice was Mark Valley, he's not a terrible actor but he was far, far too old for the role.

[JAK®]

John Krasinski would have surprised a lot of people. Everybody immediately thought of Jim Halpert when he was brought up, but he is made to look more geeky and 'normal' for that part, but in real life he could look pretty good, and there were multiple manips that showed he looked very good in the actual suit.

He would have pulled off the "heroic everyman" vibe perfectly.

[Suzanne78]

Heh... I was just talking to a friend about how awesome Chris Evans had been looking in CA and that I'm actually really happy Krasinski wasn't cast like originally reported. Despite our love for the big lug, neither of us could picture it.

Maybe he would've surprised us. But whatever. So happy with Evans!

ETA: And I agree with Mark Valley. I sort of want to punch things every time he's mentioned. Sure he's got a nice square jaw and he's a decent actor, but I think he's really too old for this role.

Also, you know what's kind of fun, at least for me a relative newbie on these boards? Going back through the casting threads and seeing the names mentioned. There are a few I agree with would've been good. And there are a few I... um, wouldn't. To put it mildly. :cwink:

[Wolvieboy17]

Remember all the celebrity names? Leonardo Dicaprio? lol

Also the number of wrestlers mentioned for Cap and Thor was just awful. John Cena? I remember one guy arguing that no one other than Triple H could ever convincingly play Thor. Hilarious.

I ever remember years ago thinking I could see Matt Damon or Daniel Craig as Cap. The thought of that now seems just so ridiculous. If it had gone that way, we would just be seeing Matt Damon or Daniel Craig or whatever big name, but when I look at Evans I don't see an actor, I just see Captain America. It's like everything Evans has done before this no longer matters because this is who he is now.

[RachelDawes]

I don't remember much about the actors suggested for Cap except that the list was overwhelmingly awful. I was dumbfounded that more people didn't support Evans right off the bat considering what we could've gotten.

Krasinski probably could've acted the part but he never would've looked right and I shudder to think of all the Jim jokes we would've been subjected to.

[Wolvieboy17]

I remember Ryan Phillippe......... *shudder*

[Parker Wayne]

It's definetly looking good so far. It might just be the most successful blockbuster of '11

Financially: No way in hell in a year with the last Harry Potter film, Transformers, and Pirates of the Carribean.

Critcally: Maybe, but I believe Harry Potter will end up being the best summer film.

My most hated fan-casting choice was Mark Valley, he's not a terrible actor but he was far, far too old for the role.

I never understood the Valley love either. A guy in his 40s shouldn't be playing a young soldier. I just felt that all the people suggesting Valley really didn't know much about Captain America at all.

John Krasinski would have surprised a lot of people. Everybody immediately thought of Jim Halpert when he was brought up, but he is made to look more geeky and 'normal' for that part, but in real life he could look pretty good, and there were multiple manips that showed he looked very good in the actual suit.

He would have pulled off the "heroic everyman" vibe perfectly.

I remember when Krasinski's name was first brought up. I laughed my ass off (it was so funny I didn't want to acronym it). I made so many Jim jokes to my friends. And I remember this really good picture on here with Krasinski doing the "Jim Shrug" in the Captain America costume that was hilarious.

And everyone referring to Rock Sexton as Dwight was pretty funny too.

Remember all the celebrity names? Leonardo Dicaprio? lol

Also the number of wrestlers mentioned for Cap and Thor was just awful. John Cena? I remember one guy arguing that no one other than Triple H could ever convincingly play Thor. Hilarious.

I ever remember years ago thinking I could see Matt Damon or Daniel Craig as Cap. The thought of that now seems just so ridiculous. If it had gone that way, we would just be seeing Matt Damon or Daniel Craig or whatever big name, but when I look at Evans I don't see an actor, I just see Captain America. It's like everything Evans has done before this no longer matters because this is who he is now.

Definitely. I honestly could never see Damon, Craig, or DiCaprio in the role because those guys are bigger than the character. Chris Pine was a pipe dream but that really would've never happened.

I don't remember much about the actors suggested for Cap except that the list was overwhelmingly awful. I was dumbfounded that more people didn't support Evans right off the bat considering what we could've gotten.

Krasinski probably could've acted the part but he never would've looked right and I shudder to think of all the Jim jokes we would've been subjected to.

Evans I had full belief that he could do a good job.

[Stringer]

The Chris Evans hate never made sense to me. He is/was easily the best actor of all the candidates that were up for the role. He also has tons of charisma. Very talented actor.

[FlawlessVictory]

Bumping this, 'Cause NOW more than ever, my faith in Mr Evans has sky-rocketed.
Hopefully, after seeing a few more scenes of him in a proper trailer, I'll definitively be able to say:
Official: Chris Evans IS Captain America






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Love how those women are checking out his bod. :funny:

[Rock Sexton]

And everyone referring to Rock Sexton as Dwight was pretty funny too.


Huh? WTF are you talking about? You totally just made that up.

[Wolvieboy17]

That guy in the background looks like Arnie.

[Timstuff]

The Chris Evans hate never made sense to me. He is/was easily the best actor of all the candidates that were up for the role. He also has tons of charisma. Very talented actor.

Look at all the hate Henry Cavill is getting from some Superman fanboys. It's inevitable that even if the studio picks the actor best suited for the role, some fans are going to be pissed off because it's not the actor they wanted. I mean, think about it-- some people actually wanted John Cena as Captain America and Gnillew as Superman.

[Suzanne78]

Look at all the hate Henry Cavill is getting from some Superman fanboys. It's inevitable that even if the studio picks the actor best suited for the role, some fans are going to be pissed off because it's not the actor they wanted. I mean, think about it-- some people actually wanted John Cena as Captain America and Gnillew as Superman.

Waaaaaah???

There are people who hate Henry Cavill? He's gorgeous, charming and talented! Not the typical Supes choice, but once they announced him, I hopped on board.

Just... Does. Not. Compute.

[Brian Braddock]

Shame DC arent taking the same approach as Marvel and having their characters in the same universe. The prospect of Cavill, Bale and Reynolds sharing the screen as Supes, Bats and GL wouldve been interesting.

[Parker Wayne]

Huh? WTF are you talking about? You totally just made that up.

This was one of them until the photo got removed for bandwidth.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=18104783&postcount=5602

Damn, Rock. Looking at the old thread, you were harsher on JK than even I remembered! :funny:

[JAK®]

Shame DC arent taking the same approach as Marvel and having their characters in the same universe. The prospect of Cavill, Bale and Reynolds sharing the screen as Supes, Bats and GL wouldve been interesting.
I think they're taking a wait and see stance. They want to see how Avengers performs before doing anything like that. And, in my opinion, I don't think Bale or Nolan would agree to do it, so they aren't going to commit them to it.
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As for any negative criticism towards Henry Cavill... there isn't any. There were a couple temper tantrums when the news broke out, but it's a very positive atmosphere in the Superman boards.

[Wolvieboy17]

No, i'm pretty sure they've clearly said several times that they're not doing what Marvel is doing, and they're keeping each film separate to it's own world in order to maintain the respective tones of each comic.

[chamber-music]

Geoff Johns said they where keeping them seperate for now.

[GhostPoet]

No, i'm pretty sure they've clearly said several times that they're not doing what Marvel is doing, and they're keeping each film separate to it's own world in order to maintain the respective tones of each comic.

DC is having a hard enough time making a decent movie from their characters anyway...once they get that down, then maybe in the future they can merge them...but for now it seems like they just need to get a handle on how to bring the characters on screen without losing losing a lot of source material.

[JAK®]

No, i'm pretty sure they've clearly said several times that they're not doing what Marvel is doing, and they're keeping each film separate to it's own world in order to maintain the respective tones of each comic.
Yeah, that's what they said. But if Avengers is a huge success they could change their mind very easily.

[Timstuff]

Geoff Johns said they where keeping them seperate for now.

The key phrase being "for now." That doesn't mean there won't be a Justice League movie at some point in the future, but don't expect to see Bruce Wayne popping up in Superman the way Nick Fury pops up in Iron Man. Personally, I think Marvel banked too heavily on cross-franchise references in Iron Man 2 to the point where it got distracting, and that's ultimately why I think John Favraeu left. He wanted to make Iron Man 3, but Marvel wanted to make The Avengers 1.5. At least if DC in the future decides to cross over their franchises for a Justice League movie they'll have kept the walls between them opaque during the solo movies, instead of treating them all like one big franchise and confusing the crap out of people who don't read comics.

[The Infernal]

Yeah, that's what they said. But if Avengers is a huge success they could change their mind very easily.

Well even if they do decide to link up future movies, you're not likely going to see a Batman film that goes with that. Nolan has stated he wasn't interested in references superheroes outside of Batman in his films and I really doubt Bale would play Batman in a JLA movie.

That's why it makes sense to keep them larely seperate for DC, because if some of your biggest players aren't really interested then the alternative is considering writing them out of the equation. Imagine the fanboy rage.

[lixdexia]

Well even if they do decide to link up future movies, you're not likely going to see a Batman film that goes with that. Nolan has stated he wasn't interested in references superheroes outside of Batman in his films and I really doubt Bale would play Batman in a JLA movie.

That's why it makes sense to keep them larely seperate for DC, because if some of your biggest players aren't really interested then the alternative is considering writing them out of the equation. Imagine the fanboy rage.
both those guys are spliting after the next movie and are going to have to be replaced anyway, so that's kinda moot

[The Infernal]

both those guys are spliting after the next movie and are going to have to be replaced anyway, so that's kinda moot

Not exactly. It makes it easier, but you're still left with their version of Batman. If the JLA was going to include all the versions of characters in other movies rather than in its own bubble then you're left with either rebooting Batman or wrenching him from his current world into a very different one.

[Iron_Stark]

The key phrase being "for now." That doesn't mean there won't be a Justice League movie at some point in the future, but don't expect to see Bruce Wayne popping up in Superman the way Nick Fury pops up in Iron Man. Personally, I think Marvel banked too heavily on cross-franchise references in Iron Man 2 to the point where it got distracting, and that's ultimately why I think John Favraeu left. He wanted to make Iron Man 3, but Marvel wanted to make The Avengers 1.5. At least if DC in the future decides to cross over their franchises for a Justice League movie they'll have kept the walls between them opaque during the solo movies, instead of treating them all like one big franchise and confusing the crap out of people who don't read comics.

Where exactly were all these references that got distracting??

And only Favreau knows why he left. As far as he wanting to make his own movie, Marvel didn't even let him do that in the beginning, the original villain was going to be Mandarin, then it got changed to Crimson Dynamo which again got changed to Iron Monger. If Favs really wanted, he would've left mid production in the first one. And speaking of Mandarin he had no clue on how to make him for the big screen, look at his interviews when he's talking Mandarin, he gives a different response in each, from making him tech based to some magical wizard. I'm sure that factored in his departure.

But anyways this is the Cap thread and we're here to talk about that awesome trailer.

[JAK®]

Well even if they do decide to link up future movies, you're not likely going to see a Batman film that goes with that. Nolan has stated he wasn't interested in references superheroes outside of Batman in his films and I really doubt Bale would play Batman in a JLA movie.

That's why it makes sense to keep them larely seperate for DC, because if some of your biggest players aren't really interested then the alternative is considering writing them out of the equation. Imagine the fanboy rage.
Well, yeah. Read my other post. I said that Nolan and Bale are one of the factors stopping them from doing it right now.

But they only have one film to go.

[Doctor Jones]

I was a John K. supporter, but even when he was the main candidate, before Evans' name had been thrown into the ring, I remember lamenting with another poster that Evans wasn't an option because we both thought he'd be better than any of the known candidates. So as much as I liked John and thought he was an interesting left-field choice, I've always felt Evans was a 10x better choice overall, and I can't wait to see him in the role.

Agreed. I did support John K myself. I think he could have been an interesting choice. But when someone suggested Evans before his name appeared I immediately jumped onto it. Then his name DID appear I got VERY excited. Then I watched Sunshine and have been loving it ever since. And it's about the only top choice of mine who was actually cast for a comic book character.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/movies/captainamerica/12.jpg

THIS is Steve Rogers. I love him already as a character. I can already feel his determination. This is my favorite shot in the tv spot.

[marcvader]

Same here, love that shot.

[Suzanne78]

Oh that is SO my favorite shot! I was discussing this on the TV spot thread.

Skinny Steve. The look on his face as he grunts and writhes through the training. He's getting passed by the other cadets and he's probably hurt and frustrated... and he keeps going and pushing as hard as he can.

It's an insanely awesome moment in the trailer. Loved that so much!

I found this on Tumblr, I'm not sure who made it but... LOVE SO MUCH!

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[Iron_Stark]

Skinny Steve is no doubt going to be the most moving and inspirational parts of the movie, hopefully it'll leave people cheering when Cap is kicking nazi ass.

[irapogi]

Bumping this, 'Cause NOW more than ever, my faith in Mr Evans has sky-rocketed.
Hopefully, after seeing a few more scenes of him in a proper trailer, I'll definitively be able to say:
Official: Chris Evans IS Captain America

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is there an hq screen of preserum steve in uniform standing next to hayley?

[captainrogers]

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[Rock Sexton]

Man, Hayley Atwell does it for me. :hrt::hrt::hrt:

[WildcatNC]

That nurse is so busted checking out Steves new body.

:funny:

Not hard to tell whats on her mind.

[BigThor]

Where exactly were all these references that got distracting??

And only Favreau knows why he left. As far as he wanting to make his own movie, Marvel didn't even let him do that in the beginning, the original villain was going to be Mandarin, then it got changed to Crimson Dynamo which again got changed to Iron Monger. If Favs really wanted, he would've left mid production in the first one. And speaking of Mandarin he had no clue on how to make him for the big screen, look at his interviews when he's talking Mandarin, he gives a different response in each, from making him tech based to some magical wizard. I'm sure that factored in his departure.

But anyways this is the Cap thread and we're here to talk about that awesome trailer.

I agree, I think people go overboard by saying Iron Man 2 focused to heavily on the Avengers. I wasn't distracted at all by the Avengers set-up because the main focus of the film was still Tony Stark like it's suppose to be.

Cap's trailer does indeed look awesome :cap:

[WildcatNC]

Man, Hayley Atwell does it for me. :hrt::hrt::hrt:


No doubt that body is killer.

[BigThor]

No doubt that body is killer.

Really? I didn't get a good view of her body in any of the pics or in the trailer itself.

[WildcatNC]

Really? I didn't get a good view of her body in any of the pics or in the trailer itself.

Not for the Cap movie you haven't. You can go look at other pics of her though. She has that curvy pin-up type body. Gorgeous.

[Shockdingo]

I'm so freakin' amazed at how good this looks. It's surpassing everything I could have ever wanted for Cap. How are they doing the skinny Steve? CGI-ing Evans face on another actor just like Arnie in the last Terminator flick?

[BigThor]

Not for the Cap movie you haven't. You can go look at other pics of her though. She has that curvy pin-up type body. Gorgeous.

Nice I'm gonna have to look into that, I have a thing for the "curvy" types :hrt:.

I'm so freakin' amazed at how good this looks. It's surpassing everything I could have ever wanted for Cap. How are they doing the skinny Steve? CGI-ing Evans face on another actor just like Arnie in the last Terminator flick?

Bingo, you got it :)

[WildcatNC]

Nice I'm gonna have to look into that, I have a thing for the "curvy" types :hrt:.



Bingo, you got it :)



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[Shockdingo]

:eek: She is a vision!

[Iron_Stark]

Nice I'm gonna have to look into that, I have a thing for the "curvy" types :hrt:.

Yep

Hayley Atwell "type" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keira Knightly "type", and it isn't even close.

[flickchick85]

Aww, it's nice that the boys have eye candy, too. And honestly, I think Atwell will be a love interest-type that women will like/relate to as well, because she doesn't appear to be the type that was chosen for "hotness." She's got character. But this is the Chris thread, dammit. The place for women (and men) to drool over our Cap! So back to that....

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Wish we could get a HQ version (aka Wallpaper-sized) of this. Still my favorite Steve Rogers pic. :hrt:

[Doctor Jones]

See Evans just seems to inhabit Rogers for me. I clearly see the guy, but I see the character. That may sound confusing but it's true.

And Atwell is a beautiful woman. Just the kind fo women I like in personality. Spunky.

[captainrogers]

Aww, it's nice that the boys have eye candy, too. And honestly, I think Atwell will be a love interest-type that women will like/relate to as well, because she doesn't appear to be the type that was chosen for "hotness." She's got character. But this is the Chris thread, dammit. The place for women (and men) to drool over our Cap! So back to that....

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7378/chrisevanssignepour3fil.jpg

Wish we could get a HQ version (aka Wallpaper-sized) of this. Still my favorite Steve Rogers pic. :hrt:

He IS a very good looking man. (I like that pic too. And I'm a hetero male!)

[steintym]

Those pics of Steve Rogers in sequence are so awesome. Just from those pictures it looks like they've nailed what he's all about. Definitely seems like a character everyone will be rooting for.

[surfergirl]

Aww, it's nice that the boys have eye candy, too. And honestly, I think Atwell will be a love interest-type that women will like/relate to as well, because she doesn't appear to be the type that was chosen for "hotness." She's got character. But this is the Chris thread, dammit. The place for women (and men) to drool over our Cap! So back to that....

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7378/chrisevanssignepour3fil.jpg

Wish we could get a HQ version (aka Wallpaper-sized) of this. Still my favorite Steve Rogers pic. :hrt:

I completely agree :hrt: I love this picture and the one of him hiding behind his shield when Peggy shoots at it.

[WildcatNC]

I completely agree :hrt: I love this picture and the one of him hiding behind his shield when Peggy shoots at it.



Hell, i'd probably do him and i'm completely straight.


He'd have to wear the costume though :oldrazz:

[TikkiEXX]

all i have to say is i totally understand why Peggy copped that feel. lol. and i too am a hetero male. haha

[Timstuff]

It's almost surreal seeing Evans in the superbowl spot. He so perfectly embodies Steve Rogers, it's even better than I expected. When I see the pictures of him, I don't see Chris Evans, I see Steve Rogers. :up:

I can't believe that there was a point where some of us were actually considering one of these guys...

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5251/johncenathechamp11878.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1971/55257946.jpg

:dry:

[WildcatNC]

He's owned it for sure. I'm impressed. He's shutting up the few haters imo.


Its crazy that he doesn't even look like Chris Evans except for a few shots here and there. Strange but in a good way.

[Suzanne78]

Aww, it's nice that the boys have eye candy, too. And honestly, I think Atwell will be a love interest-type that women will like/relate to as well, because she doesn't appear to be the type that was chosen for "hotness." She's got character. But this is the Chris thread, dammit. The place for women (and men) to drool over our Cap! So back to that....

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7378/chrisevanssignepour3fil.jpg

Wish we could get a HQ version (aka Wallpaper-sized) of this. Still my favorite Steve Rogers pic. :hrt:

Oh so pretty....

I really love the pics and images with Chris's Steve Rogers smiling. It's those moments where he seems to fully embody the character. I really think he's gonna knock this movie out of the park!!!

[Whiskey Tango]

I can safely say I never ever considered John Cena, not even for one fleeting moment.

Not recognizing the 2nd guy.

[JamalYIgle]

I can safely say I never ever considered John Cena, not even for one fleeting moment.

Not recognizing the 2nd guy.

the 2nd guy is this dude, Ben Ryan, who was posting videos of himself on youtube to start a viral campaign for himself as Captain America. It went on for a while, over a year actually

[Franklin Richards]

It's almost surreal seeing Evans in the superbowl spot. He so perfectly embodies Steve Rogers, it's even better than I expected. When I see the pictures of him, I don't see Chris Evans, I see Steve Rogers.

I still see Johnny Storm. I'm hoping he finally flips my switch when the movie comes out.


He does look great in uniform.


:cap: :cap: :cap:

[Timstuff]

the 2nd guy is this dude, Ben Ryan, who was posting videos of himself on youtube to start a viral campaign for himself as Captain America. It went on for a while, over a year actually

I can't say his attempts at going viral were unsuccessful-- everyone online was buzzing about him, at least until they heard his "acting." Then it became clear that he was just a muscle man who was really only good at looking like Steve Rogers and sounding stupid when he talks.

Evans, however, is the real deal. :up:

[Brian Braddock]

I can't believe that there was a point where some of us were actually considering one of these guys...



http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1971/55257946.jpg

:dry:

To be fair, the guy who was on here suggesting Ben Ryan for the role was never one of 'us'; just some deluded **** who stumbled across this site and decided to annoy the hell out of us for a month or so.

God, what a ****ing ****er.

[C. Lee]

The F word is censored here at the Hype...so posting a video with it in the title and then saying the word and it's variations a dozen times is absolutely not allowed.

Also.....if you see a post that is infraction worthy, it's never a good idea to quote it.

[Wolvieboy17]

I feel like i've just been flashed by the Men in Black... What were we talking about again?

[Parker Wayne]

It's almost surreal seeing Evans in the superbowl spot. He so perfectly embodies Steve Rogers, it's even better than I expected. When I see the pictures of him, I don't see Chris Evans, I see Steve Rogers. :up:

I can't believe that there was a point where some of us were actually considering one of these guys...


:dry:

Let's be honest, it's because people wanted the exact physique that we got from the comics and some people didn't care who the actor was. That's the problem with some fans, they want a physical replica when it's probably impossible to get that and a good, charismatic, sellable actor.

[flickchick85]

I completely agree :hrt: I love this picture and the one of him hiding behind his shield when Peggy shoots at it.
Yeah, I love the scene in your avvy too. It's interesting how in every single screencap I see of him from the promo, I see a Steve Rogers facial expression, with not a trace of the cockiness or irony so many people were worried he'd bring along with him from his Johnny Storm days. Every facial expression here is so wholesome and 100% earnest, it's kind of amazing. I think he's gonna surprise a lot of people with his performance.

[Nightwing]

Yeah, I love the scene in your avvy too. It's interesting how in every single screencap I see of him from the promo, I see a Steve Rogers facial expression, with not a trace of the cockiness or irony so many people were worried he'd bring along with him from his Johnny Storm days. Every facial expression here is so wholesome and 100% earnest, it's kind of amazing. I think he's gonna surprise a lot of people with his performance.
Agreed.

[Doctor Jones]

Yup. And to think people wanted ****ing Mark Valley. He's fine on HUman Target but come on.

[Alchemyst]

I can safely say I never ever considered John Cena, not even for one fleeting moment.

Not recognizing the 2nd guy.

Thank God that never happened *shudders*

[Parker Wayne]

Yup. And to think people wanted ****ing Mark Valley. He's fine on HUman Target but come on.

That was ridiculous. A lot of the choices before the shortlist was ridiculous.

[Shockdingo]

John Cena? JOHN CENA?!?!!?! AAAaaiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee *has horrifically vivid visions of a "street-wise Cap" who's a thugged out Sentinel of Liberty*

[Alchemyst]

John Cena? JOHN CENA?!?!!?! AAAaaiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee *has horrifically vivid visions of a "street-wise Cap" who's a thugged out Sentinel of Liberty*

http://www.figurerealm.com/Customs/25000/24900-1.jpg

:barf::facepalm:

[captainrogers]

http://www.figurerealm.com/Customs/25000/24900-1.jpg

:barf::facepalm:

He doesn't have wings and looks puffy. :(

[marcvader]

Puuufffffyy!!!

[WildcatNC]

He doesn't have wings and looks puffy. :(

:funny:


Its better than spandex :oldrazz:

[Timstuff]

There will be a "comic accurate" Cap suit in all it's glory in the movie via the USO scenes, so fans will be able to see for themselves which one works better for the bulk of this movie's on-screen action. ;)

I'm sure that in Avengers, Cap will get something a bit sleeker that looks a little less utilitarian, but don't expect miracles. I expect he's still going to look like he's wearing some kind of armor.

[Brian Braddock]

The F word is censored here at the Hype...so posting a video with it in the title and then saying the word and it's variations a dozen times is absolutely not allowed.

Also.....if you see a post that is infraction worthy, it's never a good idea to quote it.

C.Lee - not sure who's post you were responding to but I'll it was mine.

Just to point out that I edited myself there and havent actually sumbitted a swearword. Last time I checked it was ok to allude to a swearword without actually saying it - or has there now been a change and a person cannot actually type '****er' (again - that's not the Hype censoring me, thats me making use of the * symbol myself).

[Timstuff]

I was probably one of the guilty parties. My response has been deleted for a while, so I can only assume that I had the offended video quoted in my post. It's a darned funny video and I encourage everyone to check it out, but the hype is technically a family friendly site, and rules are rules. We can still discuss it, though. :)

[JAK®]

There will be a "comic accurate" Cap suit in all it's glory in the movie via the USO scenes, so fans will be able to see for themselves which one works better for the bulk of this movie's on-screen action. ;)

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/trollface.jpg

[C. Lee]

C.Lee - not sure who's post you were responding to but I'll it was mine.

Just to point out that I edited myself there and havent actually sumbitted a swearword. Last time I checked it was ok to allude to a swearword without actually saying it - or has there now been a change and a person cannot actually type '****er' (again - that's not the Hype censoring me, thats me making use of the * symbol myself).

It wasn't your post. The posts I was referring to had tha F word uncensored in it.

[Brian Braddock]

Yeah, just saw that on the other thread.

Cheers.

[Wolvieboy17]

Yeah, it was my 'Captain America **** yeah' trailer. My bad (although it was pretty funny)

[CB Fan]

Everything looks awesome so far however I must ask is Steve's head supposed to look that big on his pre-serum body? I just ask because it looks a bit awkward

[Moridin]

Everything looks awesome so far however I must ask is Steve's head supposed to look that big on his pre-serum body? I just ask because it looks a bit awkward

I think the only shot that looks wierd is the one where he's in the t-shirt with the wings on the sleeve, and even then I think it's just because he's sitting down with his elbows on his knees, hunching his shoulders, head leaning forward a little. He looks great in the other shots.

[Punk&ComicBooks]

There will be a "comic accurate" Cap suit in all it's glory in the movie via the USO scenes, so fans will be able to see for themselves which one works better for the bulk of this movie's on-screen action. ;)

.

The problem with that is- all the fanboys that cant get the stick out of their you know whats due to Caps final outfit, WILL NEVER admit that the USO suit looks terrible onscreen and what they came up with in the end for him to fight with actually works so much better.

[Brian Braddock]

Everything looks awesome so far however I must ask is Steve's head supposed to look that big on his pre-serum body? I just ask because it looks a bit awkward

That's kind of the point though, isnt it? To make him look a bit odd or 'awkward' (as you put it) - otherwise the impact of his physical transformation to this perfectly proportioned specimen doesnt have the same impact. They've purposely made his head that size so that when the body plays 'catch-up' post SSS, everything eventually looks balanced.

As has been said before, D.J. Qualls is probably the closest living embodiment to pre-SSS Steve as a visual reference and he looks no different - the epitome of awkwardness.

There's nothing wrong with the way they've done pre-SSS Steve as far as I'm concerned. The CG is bang on.

[captainrogers]

http://img.poptower.com/pic-23998/dj-qualls.jpg?d=600
The CG looks a bit off here.........
;)

[Brian Braddock]

Looks a bit awkward...........

:D

[steintym]

Cool pic ... I don't remember Steve in the Atari shirt in the TV spot. :woot:

[Doctor Jones]

Good ol' Steve eats good ol' American pancakes.

[captainrogers]

*GASP* Pre-SS Serum Schmidt!!!!!

[mc7791]

I think thats French toast with special seasoning. But Steve really looks scrawny there.

[JAK®]

The problem with that is- all the fanboys that cant get the stick out of their you know whats due to Caps final outfit, WILL NEVER admit that the USO suit looks terrible onscreen and what they came up with in the end for him to fight with actually works so much better.
The USO does look terrible on screen, because it was made to look that way. If Johnston really wanted the actual suit to look more like the comics, it wouldn't have looked as bad as that.

[Parker Wayne]

*GASP* Pre-SS Serum Schmidt!!!!!

:funny:

[Punk&ComicBooks]

The USO does look terrible on screen, because it was made to look that way. If Johnston really wanted the actual suit to look more like the comics, it wouldn't have looked as bad as that.

And when you go fight Nazis or Hydra in those pajama spandex, no one especially the enemy is going to take you seriously.

[Parker Wayne]

Once again, even though I like the film suit, I don't think if they were using the comic suit it would be spandex.

[WildcatNC]

spandex

:wow:

[Punk&ComicBooks]

Yeah thats right I said it, because almost every superhero is drawn like thats what they`re wearing

[WildcatNC]

Yeah thats right I said it, because almost every superhero is drawn like thats what they`re wearing


:funny:

[JAK®]

And when you go fight Nazis or Hydra in those pajama spandex, no one especially the enemy is going to take you seriously.Oh please, drop the pajama spandex nonsense. In comics, the characters are drawn as if they are naked, they don't look like they are wearing spandex at all. Obviously more substantial materials are required. And obviously there will be "changes". People like you have some sort of warped idea of what an 'accurate' costume would look like. It has no basis in reality (and goes against precedent)

[Whiskey Tango]

In comics, the characters are drawn as if they are naked

And crotchless, apparently.

[JAK®]

And crotchless, apparently.
Yeah. Obviously characters can't look exactly like they do in the comics. But you can get pretty close. It's just a case from adjusting from one media to another.

[WillardNation]

Pajama spandex? What kind of person wears spandex pajamas? :huh:

[WildcatNC]

Pajama spandex? What kind of person wears spandex pajamas? :huh:



*raises hand*


Just on the weekends. :ninja:

[The Infernal]

Pajama spandex? What kind of person wears spandex pajamas? :huh:

Probably the same kind of person who wears undies over their tights. Superheroes. :oldrazz:



.... and probably that one guy from M*A*S*H.

[WillardNation]

Probably the same kind of person who wears undies over their tights. Superheroes. :oldrazz:



.... and probably that one guy from M*A*S*H.

No, superheroes actually sleep completely naked. Fact.

[Timstuff]

Cool pic ... I don't remember Steve in the Atari shirt in the TV spot. :woot:

Before Atari got into video games, they manufactured Enigma machines for the Germans. After the war, they had to move into electronic gaming.

[BigThor]

*raises hand*


Just on the weekends. :ninja:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lmao:

This is so freaking funnyyyyyyyyyy

Before Atari got into video games, they manufactured Enigma machines for the Germans. After the war, they had to move into electronic gaming.

Nice bit of info Tim :up:

[Punk&ComicBooks]

Oh please, drop the pajama spandex nonsense. In comics, the characters are drawn as if they are naked, they don't look like they are wearing spandex at all. Obviously more substantial materials are required. And obviously there will be "changes". People like you have some sort of warped idea of what an 'accurate' costume would look like. It has no basis in reality (and goes against precedent)

In all honesty, yes I am well aware they`re not wearing spandex in the comics, I simply said it looks like it and the words I used were the best I could describe them. I wouldnt even be against something more accurate in regards to Caps final outfit on film, I`m simply saying I like what they came up with its no biggie to me. And the original point I was trying to make from the begining is how some people disappear and have nothing to say once their fears and worries are layed to rest when a movie comes out (Heath Ledger casted as The Joker for example), I mean these people NEVER admit that they were proven wrong. After the movie comes out all the closed minded pessimists vanish. People who don't widen their horizons miss out on so much. I Love how if they don't like something, that automatically means it "sucks". I would certainly never tell anyone how to enjoy or what their preferences `should be` when it comes to a movie, but my friendly suggestion would be to approach things with an open mind.

[Timstuff]

Nice bit of info Tim :up:

Yup, I definitely wouldn't lie. http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/trollface_emoticon.gif

[Wolvieboy17]

Despite all the spandex talk, I never actually pictured superhero costumes made of spandex, at least not the modern ones.

I think one of the best examples is the modern Wolverine costume. You can clearly see a zipper going down the middle and at times he takes the cowl off and it just hangs over his shoulders like a hood, so it looks like it's made of some sort of tracksuit type material, with hard blue boots.

Another good example is modern Deadpool, where you can see the bagginess of his mask that shows it's clearly not spandex... I have no idea what material it could possibly be, but it looks like the thickness of leather, without the roughness or texture of leather.

I would say the only real superheroes that I ever thought of as wearing spandex were the DC heroes like Supes, GL and Flash (perhaps Spider-Man too)

[TikkiEXX]

i must be getting old because the skintight outfits in comics are starting to bug me. especially when it comes to most female characters. everytime i see a chick in a thong or with a bare midriff i find myself asking "why?" lol. well guys costumes seem to be a bit more practical lately at least

[Silvermoth]

i must be getting old because the skintight outfits in comics are starting to bug me. especially when it comes to most female characters. everytime i see a chick in a thong or with a bare midriff i find myself asking "why?" lol. well guys costumes seem to be a bit more practical lately at least

I agree completely. Especially when you think about how comic book movies are really dominating the media and that there a little girls who also consume that media. It would be good if Marvel could show off their superheroines a bit more to give little girls someone to aspire to as much as little boys aspire to Captain America, Spiderman etc.

[BigThor]

i must be getting old because the skintight outfits in comics are starting to bug me. especially when it comes to most female characters. everytime i see a chick in a thong or with a bare midriff i find myself asking "why?" lol. well guys costumes seem to be a bit more practical lately at least

Yep, you're getting old :word:

[Dark Raven]

No, superheroes actually sleep completely naked. Fact.

I know for a fact from reading specific issues of Marvel comics that Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), She-Hulk and Tigra sleep naked (not together but separately of each other, of course). There are actually quite a few well-documented cases. I'm sure there are a few others.

[BigThor]

I know for a fact from reading specific issues of Marvel comics that Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), She-Hulk and Tigra sleep naked (not together but separately of each other, of course). There are actually quite a few well-documented cases. I'm sure there are a few others.

Wow...sweet ;)

[Brian Braddock]

Heh - the above 2 posts are proof that DC and Marvel would clean up if they took a leaf out of Comico's book and went the Elementals 'Sex Special' route with their characters.

Not my cup of tea of course but I'm strictly thinking $$$£££'s here - think of how many fan-boys would buy those comics. Of course, even forgetting the moral implications of such a movie (family companies etc), the media ****storm that would come out of it would do more harm than good.

There's undoubtedly a market there though.

[WildcatNC]

(not together but separately of each other, of course)

Maybe in YOUR world.

[Dark Raven]

Maybe in YOUR world.

Well evidently in everyone else's too, since people can read those comics for themselves and see there was no nude bed sharing between these ladies. They were all in separate comics anyway that I saw these.

[captainrogers]

Humor fumble

[WildcatNC]

Well evidently in everyone else's too, since people can read those comics for themselves and see there was no nude bed sharing between these ladies. They were all in separate comics anyway that I saw these.


:dpf:


"Sense of humor, meet Night Raven. Night Raven, meet sense of humor. I have a feeling you two could get along FABULOUSLY."

[Parker Wayne]

Well evidently in everyone else's too, since people can read those comics for themselves and see there was no nude bed sharing between these ladies. They were all in separate comics anyway that I saw these.

completely missed the joke, man. :funny:

[GhostPoet]

i must be getting old because the skintight outfits in comics are starting to bug me. especially when it comes to most female characters. everytime i see a chick in a thong or with a bare midriff i find myself asking "why?" lol. well guys costumes seem to be a bit more practical lately at least

I agree. The super women in thongs or someone wearing almost nothing is just stupid to me now. I groan when I see Starfire in DC Universe Online.

[TikkiEXX]

Ms. Marvel bugs me the most for some reason. shes probably my favorite female Marvel hero. shes smart, tough, ex military, takes no crap, will kill if she has to, with superb fighting skills and a high power level.....and basically wears a one piece bikini with a nifty sash as an outfit. lol. i know she doesnt need all that much protection but you see what im sayin. and i enjoy the ms marvel butt shots as much as the next guy but she always seemed like the pants wearing type to me. lol

[steintym]

I'm definitely getting older, but I must not be maturing enough. Still don't mind the female costumes. :awesome:

[TikkiEXX]

I'm definitely getting older, but I must not be maturing enough. Still don't mind the female costumes. :awesome:
i loled. haha. im not knockin it by ANY means. like i said i get my cheap thrills out of it just a lot less then when i was younger. dont know if its maturity or just being tired of seeing the same thing for decades. lol

[BigThor]

Ms. Marvel bugs me the most for some reason. shes probably my favorite female Marvel hero. shes smart, tough, ex military, takes no crap, will kill if she has to, with superb fighting skills and a high power level.....and basically wears a one piece bikini with a nifty sash as an outfit. lol. i know she doesnt need all that much protection but you see what im sayin. and i enjoy the ms marvel butt shots as much as the next guy but she always seemed like the pants wearing type to me. lol

True, "live action" Ms. Marvel butt shots would be even nicer but she does seem like the pants wearing type.

[Dark Raven]

Ms. Marvel bugs me the most for some reason. shes probably my favorite female Marvel hero. shes smart, tough, ex military, takes no crap, will kill if she has to, with superb fighting skills and a high power level.....and basically wears a one piece bikini with a nifty sash as an outfit. lol. i know she doesnt need all that much protection but you see what im sayin. and i enjoy the ms marvel butt shots as much as the next guy but she always seemed like the pants wearing type to me. lol

Her Ms Marvel persona is her chance to let loose and release any inhibitions.

[steintym]

A live action Ms Marvel would need to have an exact replica of her comic costume. Any changes and THAT would be a movie costume I would complain about. :woot:

It is a pretty silly costume, though. Probably doesn't fit her personality well.

[The Infernal]

I think Ms Marvel's costume is great. Tranlsating it to the silver screen might be a bit difficult, but I still wouldn't say no to seeing a costume that resembles it on screen. Maybe if they made it a full bodysuit with the gloves, boots and sash rather than a swimsuit. That might work and be a bit more tasteful.

[BigThor]

I think Ms Marvel's costume is great. Tranlsating it to the silver screen might be a bit difficult, but I still wouldn't say no to seeing a costume that resembles it on screen. Maybe if they made it a full bodysuit with the gloves, boots and sash rather than a swimsuit. That migh work and be a bit more tasteful.

Full bodysuit = win, & Swimsuit = win

We win either way :hrt:

[The Infernal]

We win either way :hrt:

Can't argue with that. lol

[GhostPoet]

Ms. Marvel bugs me the most for some reason. shes probably my favorite female Marvel hero. shes smart, tough, ex military, takes no crap, will kill if she has to, with superb fighting skills and a high power level.....and basically wears a one piece bikini with a nifty sash as an outfit. lol. i know she doesnt need all that much protection but you see what im sayin. and i enjoy the ms marvel butt shots as much as the next guy but she always seemed like the pants wearing type to me. lol

I would prefer her to wear a body suit, but with a great design so it doesn't look like basic spandex. Maybe a leathery like material and some shoulder guards and wrist guards. Basically...suit her up.

[Mercurius]

Ms. Marvel bugs me the most for some reason. shes probably my favorite female Marvel hero. shes smart, tough, ex military, takes no crap, will kill if she has to, with superb fighting skills and a high power level.....and basically wears a one piece bikini with a nifty sash as an outfit. lol. i know she doesnt need all that much protection but you see what im sayin. and i enjoy the ms marvel butt shots as much as the next guy but she always seemed like the pants wearing type to me. lol

Bikini, no sash. Upper torso with tight costume. Boots. Mask.

Sexy and daring as the girl is. Less than that is downright prudery.

[lixdexia]

Bikini, no sash. Upper torso with tight costume. Boots. Mask.

Sexy and daring as the girl is. Less than that is downright prudery.
i have to agree, though i'd give her the sash. i hate this new need to strip characters of their sexuality because some fans aren't comfortable with it

[Dark Raven]

I don't want to see Ms Marvel in a full leather catsuit/bodysuit or something bland. I want her in the black/ dark blue swimsuit with the red sash and thigh high boots, even if she looks a bit like a hooker. She has such an iconic costume. The only other modification I would accept is Carol in her red and blue original costume with bare midriff.

[Whiskey Tango]

Bikini, no sash.

Bottom line: it DOESN'T check all the iconic boxes, it's a disputable variation.

Not effective for me, its deviations being merely to make her "fit" the 2010's in Mercurius also very disputable imagination.

[Mercurius]

Bottom line: it DOESN'T check all the iconic boxes, it's a disputable variation.

Not effective for me, its deviations being merely to make her "fit" the 2010's in Mercurius also very disputable imagination.

Nope, Tan-Tan, altough you've been smart not to try and criticise me in your own floppy words, but in my sharp, exact style.

Thanks for the compliment. :cwink:

Ms. Marvel had no sash attached to her first costume. And the sash is very much end of 70's, 80's style, dated, and not an iconic feature.

[Whiskey Tango]

Wrong! It's iconic to me. It's iconic as a mother****er. You put Carol up onscreen without that sash and the entire movie is doomed all to hell.

Also...'floppy words'? lol get a thesaurus.

[Wolvieboy17]

Wow, Merc is essentially debating against the exact point he was defending for the Cap costume in those threads.

[Mercurius]

Wrong! It's iconic to me. It's iconic as a mother****er. You put Carol up onscreen without that sash and the entire movie is doomed all to hell.

Also...'floppy words'? lol get a thesaurus.

You would need one. Too bad there's no thesaurus on irony. :oldrazz:

[Mercurius]

Wow, Merc is essentially debating against the exact point he was defending for the Cap costume in those threads.

Wolvie, I gently suggest you read my next answer in the other thread to see how wrong you are repeating Whiskers in this matter.

"Only in this matter?" I'm feeling really generous today. :cwink:

[GhostPoet]

A swimsuit in live action would just look stupid.

[R_Hythlodeus]

why are you debating Ms. Marvels costume? Did I miss something?

[Mercurius]

A swimsuit in live action would just look stupid.

That's an inventive excuse to be a prude with pride.

[Chewy]

A swimsuit in live action would just look stupid.
Do people not wear swimsuits anymore? What's stupid about a swimsuit?

[TikkiEXX]

i like the sash, the sash is awesome. and i sure didnt mean to derail this whole thread. lol.

[Doctor Jones]

The sash is good. Love the sash!

[Punk&ComicBooks]

Guys I think after Watchmen, Ms. Marvels outfit would be acceptable however I still think it should meet somewhere in the middle along the lines of being modified to be able to actually fight with in a real world type setting but still faithful...Anything is possible, you just have to be open minded

[Parker Wayne]

Haha no way, it won't be faithful. Because people are gonna b***h about it being sexist, which it kinda is.

[BigThor]

Haha, no way it won't be faithful. Because people are gonna b***h about it being sexist, which it kinda is.

Hell yeah, people would go "bananas" if her costume is a swimsuit in the film.

[Brian Braddock]

Agreed.

Try as I might, I have a hard time thinking that this ..........


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/44132433358528866022.jpg

running around on a cinema screen would be acceptable in a, what, PG-13 movie?

(apologies to the mods if there's a little too much flesh showing there - that's why I've spoilered the picture so that it not apparent on 1st viewing - although I would point out that there's literally no more flesh showing than there than there is in an actual drawing of Ms Marvel - that costume there is pretty damned comicbook accurate. :woot:)

[Parker Wayne]

Right Click and Save :oldrazz:

[lixdexia]

really brian? that's too much skin? when was the last time you watched a pg 13 film or took a walk outside between may and september? that's pretty tame compared to many outfits

[WildcatNC]

^^^^^^Yes please :woot:

[Brian Braddock]

Yup, before it gets deleted by a mod. Maybe I'm paranoid but I still wonder if I've overstepped a boundary in posting that?

[Brian Braddock]

really brian? that's too much skin? when was the last time you watched a pg 13 film or took a walk outside between may and september? that's pretty tame compared to many outfits

You're probably right but you never know with this place - I've seen people banned for less, put it that way.

[lixdexia]

You're probably right but you never know with this place - I've seen people banned for less, put it that way.
nah, they post worst in the "hotties" thread on a daily basis. but better safe than sorry i suppose

[Brian Braddock]

Well, if I'm gone for about a week or so, you'll know where I am. :D

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't see why an adapted Ms Marvel outfit wouldn't work. All you would have to do is change the whole butt cheeks covered with like a yellow section, so it was technically covered.

Personally though, I could deal with a more modified costume. Sure she is iconic in the comics like that, but i'd love to see a really tough, strong female superhero on the screen that ISN'T overly sexualised. She can be sexy without having to show T & A. She was in the military for crying out loud, why would super strength suddenly need her to show her ass? That would put off alot of audience members, i'd imagine.

[Saint]

Agreed.

Try as I might, I have a hard time thinking that this ..........


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/44132433358528866022.jpg

running around on a cinema screen would be acceptable in a, what, PG-13 movie?

(apologies to the mods if there's a little too much flesh showing there - that's why I've spoilered the picture so that it not apparent on 1st viewing - although I would point out that there's literally no more flesh showing than there than there is in an actual drawing of Ms Marvel - that costume there is pretty damned comicbook accurate. :woot:)

Sorry, I... uh... wait, what were you saying? Something about... something...

[Mercurius]

Agreed.

Try as I might, I have a hard time thinking that this ..........


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/44132433358528866022.jpg

running around on a cinema screen would be acceptable in a, what, PG-13 movie?

(apologies to the mods if there's a little too much flesh showing there - that's why I've spoilered the picture so that it not apparent on 1st viewing - although I would point out that there's literally no more flesh showing than there than there is in an actual drawing of Ms Marvel - that costume there is pretty damned comicbook accurate. :woot:)

Oh hell: this is so good I can't even complain about the sash. Love the sash!

[The Infernal]

Agreed.
(apologies to the mods if there's a little too much flesh showing there - that's why I've spoilered the picture so that it not apparent on 1st viewing - although I would point out that there's literally no more flesh showing than there than there is in an actual drawing of Ms Marvel - that costume there is pretty damned comicbook accurate. :woot:)

I'm fine with it at least.

Right Click and Save :oldrazz:

Yup.


Though in all seriousness I think if we were to see Ms Marvel on screen then it might be an adaption of her suit in a similar vein to Storm in the X-men movies. Although I would still want something that resembles the comic suit if given the choice (see my second last post to this for my thoughts on that).

[Whiskey Tango]

Oh hell: this is so good I can't even complain about the sash. Love the sash!

She's wearing a sash...?

[Dark Raven]

I need to see Ms Marvel's butt cheeks in live action!! She must wear the swimsuit!

[Whiskey Tango]

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/chris-evans-talks-to-total-film-about-taking-on-captain-america

Chris Evans has spoken exclusively to Total Film about the demands of taking on the Captain America role.

Evans was cast as the iconic comic hero for Marvel's The First Avenger, and he'll also be appearing in superhero team-up The Avengers.

"It's a big commitment," he tells us. "At one point it was nine pictures. We've got it down to six but still, that's making a decision for a big portion of your life."

"I love acting but there are other things I want to do. I want to write and direct. If the movies do well and they want to exercise all six films, I could be doing this until I'm 40."

"That's a crazy thing to try and process."

Evans is also fully aware of the demands of transporting such a well-loved property to the big screen: "It's important, you know at the end of the day we are doing this for the fans. And if they're not happy, we've missed the mark."

"You go in and do as much research as you can from the comic books, but you're also trying to make something your own. This is an origin story."

"I think a lot of the comic books deal with after he's become Captain America, so to some degree we had to take some liberties. But you want to make sure you've done your homework."

The actor is also keen for the character to remain human, and not disappear beneath the iconic status: "You want the character to be the icon, but if you reduce him to a red, white and blue outfit it makes him shallow."

"It wasn't until we got our hands dirty with the script and had a good couple of scenes in the can, that I thought, 'Man, I think I'm actually getting this guy.' I feel like the character now, much more than a shield or a mask."

Despite Evans initial reluctance towards the role, he assured us that this has been an experience he has very much enjoyed: "I wouldn't trade this movie at this point for anything. I'm very happy with the decision."

[Blanket-Man]

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/chris-evans-talks-to-total-film-about-taking-on-captain-america

Chris Evans has spoken exclusively to Total Film about the demands of taking on the Captain America role.

Evans was cast as the iconic comic hero for Marvel's The First Avenger, and he'll also be appearing in superhero team-up The Avengers.

"It's a big commitment," he tells us. "At one point it was nine pictures. We've got it down to six but still, that's making a decision for a big portion of your life."

"I love acting but there are other things I want to do. I want to write and direct. If the movies do well and they want to exercise all six films, I could be doing this until I'm 40."

"That's a crazy thing to try and process."



Is anyone else really curious about the financial structuring of these multi-movie deals? Didn't Robert Downey re-do his original Iron Man contract before filming the sequel? And Tobey Maguire did the same before Spider-Man 2. So I'm wondering just how binding these things are. Obviously it's at the studio's discretion whether they actually make six movies with CAP in them, but how much leeway does Evans have? And I'd sure like to know the salary levels. What if THE FIRST AVENGER barely warrants a sequel, grossing somewhere in the $150-200 mil range? Then consider whether it takes in more than $350 mil - wouldn't Evans deserve a much higher salary for CAP 2 in that second scenario??? And then consider THE AVENGERS: If CAP makes $150 mil, but THE AVENGERS brings in $400 mil, does Evans' salary for CAP 2 go up based on THE AVENGERS' awesome B.O. showing?!? I wonder how much of that is covered in the initial deal.

With some of these actors' (like certain athlete's) contracts these days, I just wonder whether they're really worth their weight, as far as being binding...

[GhostPoet]

Haha no way, it won't be faithful. Because people are gonna b***h about it being sexist, which it kinda is.

I'm a guy and I don't really care of it's sexist or not. I just think it's stupid looking.

[cryptic name]

Haha no way, it won't be faithful. Because people are gonna b***h about it being sexist, which it kinda is.

maybe she feels sexy and confidant in her outfit and that makes her feel more powerful. in which case it would be sexist to say the outfit is sexist...

[Mercurius]

The sexist argument doesn't stick, because it would be sexist to have male actors showing how muscled they are.

And that's pretty pretty pretty (Larry David's style) common in superhero movies.

Never saw anybody claim the sexist thing in those cases. Superheroes and superheroines are sexy, that's all: they use tight costumes and some show a good deal of their bodies.

I like the superheroine. Personally, the superhero is not to my taste.














Not that there's anything wrong with it.

[Duker Jay]

Scantily-clad being the norm doesn't necessarily mean it's not sexist...whether male or female.

Of course, it would be naive to think there's no difference between the way male and female are presented in a medium traditionally dominated by male creators and audiences.

[Mercurius]

Scantily-clad being the norm doesn't necessarily mean it's not sexist...whether male or female.

Of course, it would be naive to think there's no difference between the way male and female are presented in a medium traditionally dominated by male creators and audiences.


Strangely enough, I find really big chunks of male sexism widespread on the media, if we will call it henceforth "sexism".

Alan Moore has made a number of satires on this square-jawed all pumped-up superhero standard, as well as on the skimpy superheroine.

But outside the critical parody, that's how things are since the dawn of superhero. :yay:

[Parker Wayne]

maybe she feels sexy and confidant in her outfit and that makes her feel more powerful. in which case it would be sexist to say the outfit is sexist...

She can feel sexy and comfortable but people will definitely misinterpret this.

Oh hell: this is so good I can't even complain about the sash. Love the sash!

Are.... we..... Agreeing on something?

:highfive:

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/chris-evans-talks-to-total-film-about-taking-on-captain-america

Chris Evans has spoken exclusively to Total Film about the demands of taking on the Captain America role.

Evans was cast as the iconic comic hero for Marvel's The First Avenger, and he'll also be appearing in superhero team-up The Avengers.

"It's a big commitment," he tells us. "At one point it was nine pictures. We've got it down to six but still, that's making a decision for a big portion of your life."

"I love acting but there are other things I want to do. I want to write and direct. If the movies do well and they want to exercise all six films, I could be doing this until I'm 40."

"That's a crazy thing to try and process."

Evans is also fully aware of the demands of transporting such a well-loved property to the big screen: "It's important, you know at the end of the day we are doing this for the fans. And if they're not happy, we've missed the mark."

"You go in and do as much research as you can from the comic books, but you're also trying to make something your own. This is an origin story."

"I think a lot of the comic books deal with after he's become Captain America, so to some degree we had to take some liberties. But you want to make sure you've done your homework."

The actor is also keen for the character to remain human, and not disappear beneath the iconic status: "You want the character to be the icon, but if you reduce him to a red, white and blue outfit it makes him shallow."

"It wasn't until we got our hands dirty with the script and had a good couple of scenes in the can, that I thought, 'Man, I think I'm actually getting this guy.' I feel like the character now, much more than a shield or a mask."

Despite Evans initial reluctance towards the role, he assured us that this has been an experience he has very much enjoyed: "I wouldn't trade this movie at this point for anything. I'm very happy with the decision."

I find it great that Evans is so ambitious with his career. I'm curious to how he would be as a director.

I'm a guy and I don't really care of it's sexist or not. I just think it's stupid looking.

The problem is there are people who do care and they're would b***h endlessly if they saw something like that on film.

[Parker Wayne]

Strangely enough, I find really big chunks of male sexism widespread on the media, if we will call it henceforth "sexism".


Yeah, but we're men. We don't get offended if guy spend a whole movie shirtless. We just make fun of him endlessly. :oldrazz:

[JAK®]

Female nudity is sexist because it is almost always portrayed in a sexual manner.

Whereas for men, showing a bare muscular torso could merely be a method of showing strength. Women might find that attractive but it serves a more narrative purpose.

Just about all media is from a male perspective.

[Duker Jay]

Female nudity is sexist because it is almost always portrayed in a sexual manner.

Whereas for men, showing a bare muscular torso could merely be a method of showing strength. Women might find that attractive but it serves a more narrative purpose.

Just about all media is from a male perspective.

This.

[GhostPoet]

I find a female character just as clothed (or armored) as a male character to be much more exciting and fun to read/watch.

I recently found what I think might have been a comic cover of Ms Marvel wearing her trademark chest symbol with a black top and black pants. Not sure what material and I think it looked freaking awesome. She looked tough. But heroic.

[Mercurius]

Female nudity is sexist because it is almost always portrayed in a sexual manner.

Whereas for men, showing a bare muscular torso could merely be a method of showing strength. Women might find that attractive but it serves a more narrative purpose.

Just about all media is from a male perspective.

Yeah, but strenght in this case is exactly the sexual feature in men.

To take two very recent examples, the shirtless scenes in CA and Thor: in one of them, Hayley Atwell's first moviment (as of any other girl in her situation) is to go touch his hypertorso in all curiosity; in Thor, Kat Dennings makes that homeless person remark.

The subtext is obvious: strenght, in men, is seen as the attractive feature. Thus, it's the same with girls: when they show their beautiful lines, there's immediate sexual innuendo.

It's the same thing.

And what's the problem with sex, anyway? You see, Woody Allen, that famous philosopher, says there are only two things in life: sex & death.

Well, perhaps only one thing, cause death would be better defined as already out of life. :woot:

[GhostPoet]

Yeah, but strenght in this case is exactly the sexual feature in men.

To take two very recent examples, the shirtless scenes in CA and Thor: in one of them, Hayley Atwell's first moviment (as of any other girl in her situation) is to go touch his hypertorso in all curiosity; in Thor, Kat Dennings makes that homeless person remark.

The subtext is obvious: strenght, in men, is seen as the attractive feature. Thus, it's the same with girls: when they show their beautiful lines, there's immediate sexual innuendo.

It's the same thing.

And what's the problem with sex, anyway? You see, Woody Allen, that famous philosopher, says there are only two things in life: sex & death.

Well, perhaps only one thing, cause death would be better defined as already out of life. :woot:



For me...I can't really take a character series when they run into battle with nothing but a thong and some string for the chest. :)

[lixdexia]

For me...I can't really take a character series when they run into battle with nothing but a thong and some string for the chest. :)
yeah that'd be as silly as guys running into battle wearing only leather briefs and red capes. totally sexist.

[TikkiEXX]

whoa, who only wears trunks and a cape? lol. but most male characters are pretty much fully clothed these days. even Namor usually wears pants and a shirt nowadays. cant really think of too many other shirtless males besides the Hulks.

[The Infernal]

HULK IS NAKEDEST THERE IS. :bh:

[Mercurius]

whoa, who only wears trunks and a cape? lol. but most male characters are pretty much fully clothed these days. even Namor usually wears pants and a shirt nowadays. cant really think of too many other shirtless males besides the Hulks.

But Namor should be an exception, he should be completely au naturel except for his green trunks.

It simply makes no sense for him to be all covered up. He despises human habits. And, for God's sake, the man is living in the oceans.

[TikkiEXX]

yeah i know. it actually makes sense for Namor to be half nekkid. but it seems lately theyve been dressin him up in that awful leather get up. havent seen him in his original duds in a long time.

[Mercurius]

yeah i know. it actually makes sense for Namor to be half nekkid. but it seems lately theyve been dressin him up in that awful leather get up. havent seen him in his original duds in a long time.

That's what I always say: we live in a very conservative, prude society. Gawd give us some fine debauchery.

[Paradox1]

But Namor should be an exception, he should be completely au naturel except for his green trunks.

It simply makes no sense for him to be all covered up. He despises human habits. And, for God's sake, the man is living in the oceans.


It's the ocean not a hot tube it gets very cold in those waters and namor since he's half man still has to worry about shrinkage. Can't be trying to get a date with a woman while your stuff is acting like a scared turtle.

[Mercurius]

It's the ocean not a hot tube it gets very cold in those waters and namor since he's half man still has to worry about shrinkage. Can't be trying to get a date with a woman while your stuff is acting like a scared turtle.


Hey, he's Namor, not George Costanza.

[WildcatNC]

whoa, who only wears trunks and a cape?


Ever see 300 ?


Its all the same thing. Its either sexism or its not, you can't selectively apply it.


There is nothing wrong with sex. Its part of being human, and most of us like it. Its part of life, not something to be avoided.

[WildcatNC]

Hey, he's Namor, not George Costanza.



:funny:

[Silvermoth]

Nah, I would still want to see Ms Marvel as being just as strong and cool as Thor, Cap and Iron Man. If they avoided giving Steve a spandex costume for Captain America than I think they can do a bit better than a string bikini up her bottom.

Namor's an excellent example, thanks to the person for suggesting that. They could do a better costume for him than a pair of budgie smugglers.

[Humphrey Bogart]

Can anyone point me to a film where Evans has a kind Cap gravitas working for him. I'm not that familiar with him and he doesn't seem to be that way naturally (from what I've seen in interviews).

[JAK®]

Can anyone point me to a film where Evans has a kind Cap gravitas working for him. I'm not that familiar with him and he doesn't seem to be that way naturally (from what I've seen in interviews).
Sunshine.

[Dark Raven]

Nah, I would still want to see Ms Marvel as being just as strong and cool as Thor, Cap and Iron Man. If they avoided giving Steve a spandex costume for Captain America than I think they can do a bit better than a string bikini up her bottom.

Namor's an excellent example, thanks to the person for suggesting that. They could do a better costume for him than a pair of budgie smugglers.

Ms Marvel doesn't have a string bikini up her bottom in the comics, but now that you mention it, she should, and in live action too.

[Wolvieboy17]

Well its a onepiece with a very revealing behind

[Duker Jay]

Yeah, but strenght in this case is exactly the sexual feature in men.

To take two very recent examples, the shirtless scenes in CA and Thor: in one of them, Hayley Atwell's first moviment (as of any other girl in her situation) is to go touch his hypertorso in all curiosity; in Thor, Kat Dennings makes that homeless person remark.

The subtext is obvious: strenght, in men, is seen as the attractive feature. Thus, it's the same with girls: when they show their beautiful lines, there's immediate sexual innuendo.

It's the same thing.

And what's the problem with sex, anyway? You see, Woody Allen, that famous philosopher, says there are only two things in life: sex & death.

Well, perhaps only one thing, cause death would be better defined as already out of life. :woot:

The sexism comes from who controls the media. In this case, the comic book medium is predominantly created by and for males. When the female characters' primary purpose is eye candy or they're reduced to a caricature with no possibility of displaying complexity beyond that then it begins to border on sexism. When the same thing happens with guys, you start to have more of a homoerotic thing happening.

[Wolvieboy17]

The thing is that ISN'T the case anymore. There are alot more women reading comics today, just as there are more women playing video games etc. The problem now is Marvel and DC etc have to choose between pleasing newer readers but also not losing anything 'iconic' such as a costume.

Although personally, all the girls I know who read comics either prefer the independent stuff by people like Neil Gaiman etc, or they've been reading Marvel comics their whole life.

[TikkiEXX]

Well its a onepiece with a very revealing behind
well Ms Marvel is blessed with a better than average caboose, kind of hard to keep all that a$$ in that outfit. lol

[Mercurius]

The sexism comes from who controls the media. In this case, the comic book medium is predominantly created by and for males. When the female characters' primary purpose is eye candy or they're reduced to a caricature with no possibility of displaying complexity beyond that then it begins to border on sexism. When the same thing happens with guys, you start to have more of a homoerotic thing happening.

Guys and girls in superherodom are treated as equals: if there's sexism against women, there is the same thing happening with men.

Girls have curves and flesh shown: men have muscles and flesh. Same thing, for homo or heterosexual purposes.

And sex is nice. Or at least I think so.

[Silvermoth]

I think there's a difference between showing women with curves and showing women in G-strings being dragged on the ground by a supervillian though.

Take Captain America. Yes he had his shirt off in the trailer but that doesn't mean he fights nazis wearing a pair of speedos.

Because that would be silly.

[BizarroAids]

LOL. I'm sorry, but that was a great post. I'm not sure why I laughed so hard, but yeah it's great.
:woot:

[Vartha]

I think there's a difference between showing women with curves and showing women in G-strings being dragged on the ground by a supervillian though.

Take Captain America. Yes he had his shirt off in the trailer but that doesn't mean he fights nazis wearing a pair of speedos.

Because that would be silly.
.....good thing Namor's not in the film huh? :D

[Mercurius]

.....good thing Namor's not in the film huh? :D

:woot:

Of course, Silvermoth would make him look like a monk, covered from head to toe, cause, "oh...no, oh me gawd, are these green speedos?"

Just kiddin', Silvermoth: I know (or suppose to know) what you mean.

[captainrogers]

Yeah, should Namor ever appear in a movie, I see them putting him in a variation of that dark Blue/Black shirt & pants thing he's been wearing in recent years.
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/42/60_Invaders_Now__5.jpg
But if they wanna do Namor in all his green fish scale speedo glory, more power to them. I see clothing as being unnecessary/ceremonial/optional when the person wearing it can have bullets deflected from their epidermis. Ms. Marvel's lack of clothing could be explained away as her being tired of her 'excess' gear being burned off/shot to ribbons. :)

[RachelDawes]

Yeah, should Namor ever appear in a movie, I see them putting him in a variation of that dark Blue/Black shirt & pants thing he's been wearing in recent years.
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/42/60_Invaders_Now__5.jpg
But if they wanna do Namor in all his green fish scale speedo glory, more power to them. I see clothing as being unnecessary/ceremonial/optional when the person wearing it can have bullets deflected from their epidermis. Ms. Marvel's lack of clothing could be explained away as her being tired of her 'excess' gear being burned off/shot to ribbons. :)

So I guess Ms Marvel doesn't mind her skin being burned off or shot to ribbons? :cwink:

Actually, I've never read a Ms Marvel comic so I don't know if she's impervious to fire and bullets or not. But if she isn't and she still fights in a swimsuit then that's pretty funny.

[Mercurius]

So I guess Ms Marvel doesn't mind her skin being burned off or shot to ribbons? :cwink:

Actually, I've never read a Ms Marvel comic so I don't know if she's impervious to fire and bullets or not. But if she isn't and she still fights in a swimsuit then that's pretty funny.


The superhero stuff is utter madness if you start thinking about it. It takes a good deal of suspension of disbelief to go on with it.

They would never walk about in flashy colours and most of them would have to cover heavily every inch of their body to be able to sustain a combat in those superhero terms.

But the whole thing is that they are a symbol of some sort of power, in which the authors can put whatever they want: ideals of justice, abilities of overcoming everything, flying, unimaginable speed and agility, whatever one dreams.

And, of course, most characters were thought to be really sexy. Maybe with the exception of the Hulk. One never knows.

[captainrogers]

So I guess Ms Marvel doesn't mind her skin being burned off or shot to ribbons? :cwink:

Actually, I've never read a Ms Marvel comic so I don't know if she's impervious to fire and bullets or not. But if she isn't and she still fights in a swimsuit then that's pretty funny.

To my knowlege she was. Pretty sure Rogue originally siphoned her powers from Ms. Marvel, so that's what I'm going on.

[afrayedknot]

I just saw "Battle Los Angeles." Aaron Eckhart would've made a GREAT Cap!!!

[Wolvieboy17]

if he was younger, or Cap was older.

[afrayedknot]

I've always imagined Cap to be older than what the comics say. I just have a difficult time with "battle-weary" soldiers who look like they're in their early 20's! That's part of the reason I didn't like "G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra." That . . . and it SUCKED!!! :)

[Wolvieboy17]

Yeah, he definitely reads as an older character but the reality is for his origin, he isn't.

[wobbly]

I've always imagined Cap to be older than what the comics say. I just have a difficult time with "battle-weary" soldiers who look like they're in their early 20's! That's part of the reason I didn't like "G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra." That . . . and it SUCKED!!! :)

An awful lot of battle weary veterans are in their early 20's. In fact, in WW2 and Viet Nam around that mark was the average age for the troops that did serve.

[captainrogers]

Ah....perhaps the stress of filming so many movies back to back will age our Mr Evans. To my mind, tho, he seems to be doing Steve Rogers justice thus far.

[afrayedknot]

An awful lot of battle weary veterans are in their early 20's. In fact, in WW2 and Viet Nam around that mark was the average age for the troops that did serve.

Okay, maybe "battle-weary" isn't the word I'm looking for. Is there a word for "having enough combat experience and leadership experience in combat that he can not only lead a platoon but also have men willing to follow him into battle?"

Most of the guys in my platoon, including myself, were in our early twenties, with combat experience, but it didn't mean they could lead or that I would follow their command.

[Wolvieboy17]

Yeah, but thats what has always made Cap unique, that he somehow has this charismatic spark, and this passion to do the right thing that just inspires others.

[Mercurius]

I just saw "Battle Los Angeles." Aaron Eckhart would've made a GREAT Cap!!!

Indeed. I thought about that as well. He could've a great casting choice.

And it would be very interesting to see Eckhart and Downey Jr. playing the two Avengers of strong (and mostly opposed) personalities in command positions.

Anyway: Evans seems to be quite into the Captain America role. Let's see what happens.

[bert19]

An awful lot of battle weary veterans are in their early 20's. In fact, in WW2 and Viet Nam around that mark was the average age for the troops that did serve.

I think the average age of a 'common soldier' in Vietnam was 19 if I remember my school history lessons correctly?

[wobbly]

I think the average age of a 'common soldier' in Vietnam was 19 if I remember my school history lessons correctly?

That's one estimate (also inspired a hit song back in the 80's) but I've read different ones factoring in all the different troops/corps/regiments involved for the entirety of that conflict. Whatever the case it was not old by any means.

[C. Lee]

Don't forget that a soldier served a one year term in Vietnam (when they arrived in country, they knew exactly how long they would be there unless wounded bad enough to be sent home)....the troops in WWII were there for the duration (once there, they stayed until war was over or pulled out due to special circumstances).

[wobbly]

Okay, maybe "battle-weary" isn't the word I'm looking for. Is there a word for "having enough combat experience and leadership experience in combat that he can not only lead a platoon but also have men willing to follow him into battle?"

Most of the guys in my platoon, including myself, were in our early twenties, with combat experience, but it didn't mean they could lead or that I would follow their command.

Well, Cap does wear a mask so visually his age would not be quite so apparent. The rest would come from his manner, bearing etc. The troops would follow him if he presents sufficient maturity, confidence, courage, authority & intelligence, and those things are all part of his character - in the books its often noted how others, including Gods like Thor, just know he is the man the follow (I remember Frank Miller's dialogue when Daredevil sees Cap barking orders "A voice that command a God.....And Does.")

[Doctor Jones]

My friend told me my new haircut makes me look like Chris Evans. :atp:

*ego meter increases*

[captainrogers]

Well, Cap does wear a mask so visually his age would not be quite so apparent. The rest would come from his manner, bearing etc. The troops would follow him if he presents sufficient maturity, confidence, courage, authority & intelligence, and those things are all part of his character - in the books its often noted how others, including Gods like Thor, just know he is the man the follow (I remember Frank Miller's dialogue when Daredevil sees Cap barking orders "A voice that command a God.....And Does.")
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg824/scaled.php?server=824&filename=capawesome001.jpg&res=iphone

[wobbly]

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg824/scaled.php?server=824&filename=capawesome001.jpg&res=iphone

That's the one :yay: (forgot it was Urich describing him tho'). Only time I can think of that Miller wrote Cap and he did a great job throughout that issue.

[steintym]

That is pretty awesome. A cool couple of panels.