Cap's Transformation Scene

[Axl Van Sixx]

Well, I loved every second of the Super Bowl ad. But did anyone else get a really weird impression the first time they watched Steve Rogers pre- and post-serum? I mean, that's Captain America's origin, and they did it perfectly. I love the retro vibe of the production design in the lab. Nevertheless, it was really odd to see a skinny guy go into this tube and instantly emerge as a muscle-bound He-Man, the pinnacle of human perfection.

I know, I know, that's a very basic part of Captain America's appeal. I just wonder if modern audiences might laugh at it initially.

If anyone thinks this thread is pointless, I can't really argue with you. But I was just curious as to whether other people had similar impressions, or what their thoughts are on the matter.

[craigdbfan]

I think there is more to it. If it felt right in 30 seconds I'm sure within context that scene will look and flow nicely.

[Dark Sentinel]

I think there is more to it. If it felt right in 30 seconds I'm sure within context that scene will look and flow nicely.

I have a feeling there will be a lot more screaming on Evans's part. I'd like to see it get to a point where it seems like it'll be another test failure, then the machine just STOPS and hisses open, revealing post-serum Rogers. I agree, what was seen in the superbowl spot was perfect for the time they had for it, but I'm sure, like everyone else is, there's more to be seen.

[Stringer]

Like others have said, it'll probably be more like Wolverines adamantium procedure than the instant transformation in the commercial.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

If people can accept that the Hulk not only gains much more mass than Cap in a short period of time, and turns back to his relatively puny self afterward, this shouldn't be too much of a stretch, no pun intended.

[choskins]

If people can accept that the Hulk not only gains much more mass than Cap in a short period of time, and turns back to his relatively puny self afterward, this shouldn't be too much of a stretch, no pun intended.

Or to a lesser extent, Spider-Man's transformation in the first movie.

[Alchemyst]

To me it looks like the scene itself will be a little longer, Chester Phillips had a scared look on his face and we did see sparks fly from nearby machines, he may demand them to stop it because it looks like its hurting Rogers, but the scientist insist that they must follow through with it

[LuisTX85]

When Peggy asks"how do you feel?"and he responds"taller".....seems like he's exhausted/was in pain for a bit/winded or something!

I guess there could be something to that!?

[Kingslayer]

I think it's hard to judge from such a short clip, at least as far as the length of scene is concerned. I think the trailer will probably touch on this aspect a little more, so I'm sure the majority of the general audience will know what to expect.

[steintym]

The trailer obviously shortened the scene quite a bit. Played out the way it's intended in the movie, I think it can be pretty awesome. There's definitely some suspension of disbelief required, but previous superhero movies have shown that when done right, they're pretty cool.

[Alchemyst]

lol remember how they poorly executed the transformation in the 90's film? He transformed it was successful, everyone gathered around Rogers, HAIL HITLER!!!!, dude starts shooting lol.

[Axl Van Sixx]

Yeah, I'm positive the scene will turn out great in the end. The ultra-short length of the Super Bowl commercial was clearly disorienting in some ways. But it had everything I needed to see to convince me this movie will be something special.

[steintym]

lol remember how they poorly executed the transformation in the 90's film? He transformed it was successful, everyone gathered around Rogers, HAIL HITLER!!!!, dude starts shooting lol.

:woot: I have to check that out again. I don't remember the last time I watched that.

Needless to say, I think this film will do a better job of capturing the true tone of that scene/event.

[TikkiEXX]

lol remember how they poorly executed the transformation in the 90's film? He transformed it was successful, everyone gathered around Rogers, HAIL HITLER!!!!, dude starts shooting lol.
man just watched that last night. just to remind myself how lucky we are to get a decent Cap movie. i loved how pre serum Rogers in that movie equaled a limp and a baggy sweater. lol. so bad, SO bad. lol

[AnorexicBatman]

I loved what I saw of the scene. Chris Evans comes off as really cute and innocent
Then he's all RAAR! MANLY CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!

[Timstuff]

:woot: I have to check that out again. I don't remember the last time I watched that.

Needless to say, I think this film will do a better job of capturing the true tone of that scene/event.

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lol

[craigdbfan]

^Intense. :hehe:

[Ponyboy]

I loved what I saw of the scene. Chris Evans comes off as really cute and innocent
Then he's all RAAR! MANLY CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!

he looked really sickly in the scenes right before he got all buffed up. Surely there's some digital manipulation there... Or did Evans actually get that thin?

[jacobed]

Its all cg Benjamin Button style.

[craigdbfan]

I have a feeling there will be a lot more screaming on Evans's part. I'd like to see it get to a point where it seems like it'll be another test failure, then the machine just STOPS and hisses open, revealing post-serum Rogers. I agree, what was seen in the superbowl spot was perfect for the time they had for it, but I'm sure, like everyone else is, there's more to be seen.

Exactly.

[WildcatNC]

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lol



:awesome: and :doh: at the same time.

[steintym]

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lol

Haha, that was awesome ... in a "fun bad" sort of way.

Hail Hitler! Blam! Blam! Blam!

Good stuff

[kedrell]

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lol

That scene despite being very poorly conceived, was suprisingly well edited and had the most decent choreography in the film. Not that that's saying much, but it's the best that that film ever got.

[Khemik@L]

When Peggy asks"how do you feel?"and he responds"taller".....seems like he's exhausted/was in pain for a bit/winded or something!

I guess there could be something to that!?

Hehe. Does anyone else think that when Peggy Carter was asking Steve how he feels she was not interested in his emotions but was actually asking "How does chest feel?"

[Kingslayer]

That scene despite being very poorly conceived, was suprisingly well edited and had the most decent choreography in the film. Not that that's saying much, but it's the best that that film ever got.

Thank you for confirming that I should never watch this film in my entire life. :dry:

[Mr. Earle]

So how did they shoot the scenes before his transformation? Is it special effects or did Evans pull a Christian Bale?

[Khemik@L]

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lol

:pal: Did you see how easily those supposed mental constraints broke :lmao: so obviously fake :facepalm:

[Kingslayer]

So how did they shoot the scenes before his transformation? Is it special effects or did Evans pull a Christian Bale?

It's definitely special effects, ala Benjamin Button. I think asking Evans to slim down considerably in such a short time and for such a short part of the movie would be more than excessive. :woot:

[Khemik@L]

So how did they shoot the scenes before his transformation? Is it special effects or did Evans pull a Christian Bale?
This is the kind of question we want people to be asking because it means the effects are realistic looking and believable so thumbs up to the effects team on that

It's definitely special effects, ala Benjamin Button. I think asking Evans to slim down considerably in such a short time and for such a short part of the movie would be more than excessive. :woot:

There's your Explanation

[Ryudoz]

:pal: Did you see how easily those supposed mental constraints broke :lmao: so obviously fake :facepalm:
What really gets me is that he broke through metal so easily, yet when strapped to the missile he's completely immobilized. So bad. So so bad.

[Mr. Earle]

Thanks for the answer!

[GhostPoet]

I'd like to see the scene play out like this..

He's in the tube and the power turns on.

Steve - "ZOMG! It burns! It burns!! Make it stop!! i'M DYING!!!! I can feel my skin melting off my body!! WHYY!! WHYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey...this feels kind of....AHHHH!!! NO! IT'S KILLING ME!"

And then the door opens.

Steve - "That wasn't so bad."

[Hurm...]

I'd like to see the scene play out like this..

He's in the tube and the power turns on.

Steve - "ZOMG! It burns! It burns!! Make it stop!! i'M DYING!!!! I can feel my skin melting off my body!! WHYY!! WHYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey...this feels kind of....AHHHH!!! NO! IT'S KILLING ME!"

And then the door opens.

Steve - "That wasn't so bad."
That is an interesting take. There were rumors that Nicholas Cage was on set during the filming of the transformation scene, giving Evans tips on portraying a character going through immense amounts of pain...

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[GhostPoet]

LOL!!! I remember that scene.

[Alchemyst]

my God....Red Skull tied this dude to a rocket and start talkin **** to him, Cap grabbed his arm, and the best thing Red Skull could do was cut his own hand off!?!?!?! Why not jus stab Cap in the chest for cryin out loud???

It's also funny that the gun that the guy used to shoot that scientist during the transformation scene is a beretta that wasn't manufactured until 1970.

[Ryudoz]

I'm just hoping that the presentational aspect of the transformation isn't skipped over. It's a dramatic moment, I'd like to see it built up a bit. A bit of theatrics if you will, especially up until the moment the machine is turned on.

[Alchemyst]

I'm just hoping that the presentational aspect of the transformation isn't skipped over. It's a dramatic moment, I'd like to see it built up a bit. A bit of theatrics if you will, especially up until the moment the machine is turned on.

I'm pretty sure there will be quite a bit of build up to it, it is a pivotal moment in Steve Rogers' life.

[Kingslayer]

This is the kind of question we want people to be asking because it means the effects are realistic looking and believable so thumbs up to the effects team on that


Excellent point. I was actually shocked at the huge contrast between pre-and-post serum Rogers. Definitely looks good though. I think the bobblehead complains I've seen stirring are simply because they're so used to seeing Evans in his usual enormous shape.

Thanks for the answer!

My pleasure!

That is an interesting take. There were rumors that Nicholas Cage was on set during the filming of the transformation scene, giving Evans tips on portraying a character going through immense amounts of pain...

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And just when you thought that video couldn't get any funnier...

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[GhostPoet]

Something just dawned on me...and everyone else probably already figured it out. :P So, the maker the SSS is killed. Which means the only way to make a STABLE SSS is gone with him. That doesn't keep the government from keeping unstable copies of it in cold storage. In The Incredible Hulk we see the General give Blonsky the SSS.

Obviously, the General must have known how unstable the SSS was and how it would likely effect him in a very bad way, but out of desperation for wanting The Hulk, he did it anyway. Proving just how obsessed he was with capturing The Hulk.

I'm slow...I just now realized his desperation after reading about Cap.

[Alchemyst]

Something just dawned on me...and everyone else probably already figured it out. :P So, the maker the SSS is killed. Which means the only way to make a STABLE SSS is gone with him. That doesn't keep the government from keeping unstable copies of it in cold storage. In The Incredible Hulk we see the General give Blonsky the SSS.

Obviously, the General must have known how unstable the SSS was and how it would likely effect him in a very bad way, but out of desperation for wanting The Hulk, he did it anyway. Proving just how obsessed he was with capturing The Hulk.

I'm slow...I just now realized his desperation after reading about Cap.

Probably the reason why General Ross told him if he starts flipping out, he was pulling him out of the mission. And also later on in the film, Blonsky's appearance started to go downhill as if he was becoming sick.

[Moridin]

Haha, that was awesome ... in a "fun bad" sort of way.

Hail Hitler! Blam! Blam! Blam!

Good stuff

lol. I love the way he goes to shake hands and essentially goes "Psyke! Heil Hitler!" *Bang*

[Alchemyst]

lol. I love the way he goes to shake hands and essentially goes "Psyke! Heil Hitler!" *Bang*

Scenes like that instantly turn a film into comedy all the way through :funny:

I never thought anything of that scene when I was a kid, but watching it now....hilarious.

[steintym]

lol. I love the way he goes to shake hands and essentially goes "Psyke! Heil Hitler!" *Bang*

Exactly - The only thing missing was him extending his hand, pulling it away quickly, followed by running his hand through his hair and then screaming Heil Hitler!

:awesome: