Marion Cottilard in The Dark Knight Rises?

[jkhoo714]

I hope this rumor is true and i hope she's Talia Al Ghul

http://batman-news.com/2011/02/13/marion-cotillard-in-the-dark-knight-rises-after-all/

[Arta]

Awesome. Too bad she isn't Catwoman but she might work as Talia or a love interest. Or anything actually.

Now cast Zoe Saldana and Naomi Watts as lesbian strippers.

[jkhoo714]

My original pick was Eva green & Marion But Nolan must of saw something special about Anne as he did in Heath so don't let me down Nolan

[wootbaby]

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[batboy99]

This actually makes me sad knowing she really wont be Selina.

[BatZiLLa54]

Sweet I was so happy she wasn't cast as catwoman but she definitely fits as Talia. I hope this is true.

[Wolverine1988]

i kind of wish Nolan went with someone else, the guy is using pretty much the same cast as Inception. I want to see new people,

I know he likes to work with the same people, but using several actors from the movie you just did in your new one is kind of lame, jmo though not saying this will effect the movie moore of a prefrence for me.

[Mister H.]

Marion Cottilard is inching towards Catherine Zeta-Jones for the top spot on my World's Sexiest Female chart.

[Bat-Mite]

Don't want her for Talia, but that's more because I'm opposed to Talia being in the movie than anything else. I'd be fine with her playing just about anyone else now that I know she won't be Catwoman. Still, this report comes across as wishful thinking. I doubt there's anything to it.

[MoonChild]

Maybe she will be Lady Shiva.

[Matt]

Honestly, at this point, the cast is just too damn big. Between her and JGL, it feels like Nolan is shoehorning in every actor he likes and every idea that he's ever had for a Batman movie. Catwoman and Talia in the same 2-2.5 hour movie? With Bane too? Either we're going to see characters who are glorified cameoes or watered down to the point where they are in name only or this movie is going to be a crowded mess.

[Figs]

Honestly, at this point, the cast is just too damn big. Between her and JGL, it feels like Nolan is shoehorning in every actor he likes and every idea that he's ever had for a Batman movie. Catwoman and Talia in the same 2-2.5 hour movie? With Bane too? Either we're going to see characters who are glorified cameoes or watered down to the point where they are in name only or this movie is going to be a crowded mess.

Once again people are forgetting how many characters were in Batman Begins and TDK.

So far we have Bane, Catwoman and possibly Joseph Gordon Levitt. That's three new characters. They basically replace Rachel, Joker and Dent/Two Face's spots from TDK. If Cottilard is in this, that's only one more. I don't see Nolan fumbling the ball like other directors have with not being able to handle multilpe characters.

[Matt]

Once again people are forgetting how many characters were in Batman Begins and TDK.

So far we have Bane, Catwoman and possibly Joseph Gordon Levitt. That's three new characters. They basically replace Rachel, Joker and Dent/Two Face's spots from TDK. If Cottilard is in this, that's only one more. I don't see Nolan fumbling the ball like other directors have with not being able to handle multilpe characters.

But you are forgetting that this is the final film of his series. He has to tie up loose ends and all that stuff. There is a reason J.K. Rowling did not introduce any new characters in the final Potter book, because it is hard to develop new and meaningful characters while tying up loose ends and giving closure. Obviously, this is different, new characters are a must....but not at this level this late in the game.

And being as I am of the opinion that Nolan already fumbled the ball in the third act of TDK by trying to cram too much in (making Two-Face's arc feel entirely rushed), I have very little faith in this one at this point.

[Boom]

I fully expect Cotillard to stay at home for the first several months after the baby is born. Unless they scheduled her for the last few months of the shoot, I don't see her jumping into a big-budget blockbuster film that starts shooting the very month that she is expecting her first child.

Personally, I don't think she'll be in the film.

[Nightmare]

Maybe she'll be "Bruce Wayne's love interest".

Does she really need to be a character? Im sure Nolan will use her great. I hope its true.

[Figs]

But you are forgetting that this is the final film of his series. He has to tie up loose ends and all that stuff. There is a reason J.K. Rowling did not introduce any new characters in the final Potter book, because it is hard to develop new and meaningful characters while tying up loose ends and giving closure. Obviously, this is different, new characters are a must....but not at this level this late in the game.

Well, here's to hoping Cottilard won't be in the film then. :woot: Personally, I don't want the League to return anyways.

Which loose ends do they need to tie up at this point though? As of now, Batman is on the run and the mob is in shambles. Basically the only loose end really is Batman needing to redeem himself in the eyes of Gotham's citizens. Cleaning up Gotham, including taking care of what's left of the mob of course, is a never ending fight, so that's not something that's going to have closure most likely.

If Cottilard is in the film, I take it she'll be the main antagonist with Bane as the villian just under her. Not sure about JGL though, have to wait to see who he's even playing. For all we know his character(if he is a Falcone)might be the one to get less screen time which I wouldn't mind since I'm not huge on another normal mobster type.

[Matt]

Well, here's to hoping Cottilard won't be in the film then. :woot: Personally, I don't want the League to return anyways.

Which loose ends do they need to tie up at this point though? As of now, Batman is on the run and the mob is in shambles. Basically the only loose end really is Batman needing to redeem himself in the eyes of Gotham's citizens. Cleaning up Gotham, including taking care of what's left of the mob of course, is a never ending fight, so that's not something that's going to have closure most likely.

If Cottilard is in the film, I take it she'll be the main antagonist with Bane as the villian just under her. Not sure about JGL though, have to wait to see who he's even playing. For all we know his character(if he is a Falcone)might be the one to get less screen time which I wouldn't mind since I'm not huge on another normal mobster type.


But if that's the case we'll just have a bunch of underdeveloped characters running around being played by Nolan's friends. And when you have actors of those calibre in cameoes, it'll really only serve to distract the audience rather than add to the movie.

[GregComicFan]

Maybe Talia won't be a villain right away...

...maybe Talia will actually come to Gotham seeking Bruce to take over the League just like her father/seek his hand in marriage. When he rejects, all hell breaks loose.

Not that interesting, I admit, but still a theory.

[Figs]

But if that's the case we'll just have a bunch of underdeveloped characters running around being played by Nolan's friends. And when you have actors of those calibre in cameoes, it'll really only serve to distract the audience rather than add to the movie.

I understand your complaints, but saying their roles will be cameos is a bit of an exaggeration.

[KRIM]

But if that's the case we'll just have a bunch of underdeveloped characters running around being played by Nolan's friends. And when you have actors of those calibre in cameoes, it'll really only serve to distract the audience rather than add to the movie.
Yup. That's the difference between this scenario and the previous two films. If JGL and Marion are both in, they're either playing glorified cameos or they will have meaty parts. Which translates to a waste of talent or severe screentime dispersal. It's a lose-lose from what I can see.

[Matt]

I understand your complaints, but saying their roles will be cameos is a bit of an exaggeration.

Maybe not cameoes, but small underdeveloped characters are no better. How would you feel if Raimi used an actor like Sean Bean or Ray Liotta in the role of Curt Connors in the Spider-Man franchise? Its just a waste of talent and a distraction. Kind of like he did with James Cromwell as Captain Stacy. Sometimes less is more and I feel like Nolan needs to learn that lesson (it reflects on all of his films but The Prestige to be honest) before it blows up in his face.

[Figs]

Maybe not cameoes, but small underdeveloped characters are no better. How would you feel if Raimi used an actor like Sean Bean or Kevin Spacey in the role of Curt Connors in the Spider-Man franchise? Its just a waste of talent and a distraction. Kind of like he did with James Cromwell as Captain Stacy.

Good point. I just have a feeling Nolan will be able to budget everyone's time appropriately. He seems to be good at this, looking at his past films.

While I agree that Cromwell as Captain Stacy was a waste of talent, that movie was practically fail to begin with in regards to it's production. Raimi and whoever wrote it didn't know how to balance that many characters, Nolan does.

I don't mean to sound like one of those fanboys that thinks Nolan is god, so my opinions that he can handle this well, is just from what I've witnessed in Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and Inception.

[*Whiplash*]

Good point. I just have a feeling Nolan will be able to budget everyone's time appropriately. He seems to be good at this, looking at his past films.

I don't mean to sound like one of those fanboys that thinks Nolan is god, so my opinions that he can handle this well, is just from what I've witnessed in Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and Inception.

Spot on.

Inception had a large cast and I wasn't complaining about not getting to know his or her back story. The movie was amazing and it managed to fit everyone in appropriately.

[KRIM]

As good as Inception is I think it exemplifies the concern very well. Dicaprio, Marion, and Cillian were really the only ones that were used well, given their talents. No one was particularly bad but considering how great their previous performances were, 'underused' is definitely what I'd describe that ensemble situation.

[Saint]

It seems odd to me that whenever someone is cast, everyone assumes it's as a villain. The movie is bound to contain plenty of other roles.

I guess anything is possible, though. If she were Talia, that would pretty much blow my mind--I'd have no idea what to expect from this movie (which I guess is already the case, anyway).

[Figs]

Spot on.

Inception had a large cast and I wasn't complaining about not getting to know his or her back story. The movie was amazing and it managed to fit everyone in appropriately.

Funny thing is, that was a complaint from a fair group of people and critics.

From the beginning Nolan said that these films should focus on Batman/Bruce's story, so I won't be disappointed if we don't fully get the history on say for example, JGL's possible character.

He went against that with Dent of course, but as big as the Joker is, he kept any backstory out of it.

If JGL is Falcone's son, I don't think he'll need much history as well as Catwoman for that matter. When it comes to Catwoman, I don't care so much about her past(in the movieverse), but the present and how she interacts with Batman.

[Matt]

Good point. I just have a feeling Nolan will be able to budget everyone's time appropriately. He seems to be good at this, looking at his past films.

While I agree that Cromwell as Captain Stacy was a waste of talent, that movie was practically fail to begin with in regards to it's production. Raimi and whoever wrote it didn't know how to balance that many characters, Nolan does.

I don't mean to sound like one of those fanboys that thinks Nolan is god, so my opinions that he can handle this well, is just from what I've witnessed in Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and Inception.

Funny part is, it is those movies that make me question Nolan's ability. Take BB's for example....third act, Scarecrow basically just disappears, pops up, then disappears again. TDK, the entire third act was mismanaged, IMO. Stuff like Lucius' sudden and forced conflict with Bruce (that had no build up but was essentially just to give Freeman something to do), a cheap plot device to find the Joker rather than real detective work from Bruce (which would've served as development of the character), the rushing of Two-Fact, etc. And Inception, I mean, no characters aside from Leo or Murphy were developed. There was seriously more development of the supporting characters in The Expendables. And that's fine, Inception didn't really call for development outside of Leo's character....but still, its not exactly great cast management.

As good as Inception is I think it exemplifies the concern very well. Dicaprio, Marion, and Cillian were really the only ones that were used well, given their talents. No one was particularly bad but considering how great their previous performances were, 'underused' is definitely what I'd describe that ensemble situation.

Exactly.

[Matt]

Funny thing is, that was a complaint from a fair group of people and critics.

From the beginning Nolan said that these films should focus on Batman/Bruce's story, so I won't be disappointed if we don't fully get the history on say for example, JGL's possible character.

He went against that with Dent of course, but as big as the Joker is, he kept any backstory out of it.

If JGL is Falcone's son, I don't think he'll need much history as well as Catwoman for that matter. When it comes to Catwoman, I don't care so much about her past(in the movieverse), but the present and how she interacts with Batman.

But that works for the Joker as he has always been a character who is cloaked in mystery. It helps that his motivation does not need to be presented as rational (as the whole point of the character is that he is a mad man). Other characters, you need to establish their motivation, how they came to be, why they are doing what they are doing, their personality, etc.

[blackkeno]

I think Nolan just likes to use good actors. BB also had Ken Watanabe and Rutger Hauer. TDK also had William Fichtner. These weren't huge roles.

[Matt]

I think Nolan just likes to use good actors. BB also had Ken Watanabe and Rutger Hauer. TDK also had William Fichtner. These weren't huge roles.

Watanbe has never been huge in the States and Hauer hasn't really been huge since the 80s. Fitchner has always been a bit part guy (aside from Prison Break).

I think its different when you're casting two hot as hell actors (JGL has been getting all kinds of praise and is in the midst of a comeback, where as Cottilard is basically exploding at the moment).

[Figs]

Funny part is, it is those movies that make me question Nolan's ability. Take BB's for example....third act, Scarecrow basically just disappears, pops up, then disappears again.

He used the character as needed for the story he was telling. Crane/Scarecrow was there as the plant in Gotham for Ras to work with. When he "disappears" it's because Batman stops him and Crane gets locked up until the LoS breaks him out. I agree that at the end he did go out like a ***** from Rachel, but Ras was always meant to be the main threat of that film, much like Joker in TDK.

TDK, the entire third act was mismanaged, IMO. Stuff like Lucius' sudden and forced conflict with Bruce (that had no build up but was essentially just to give Freeman something to do), the rushing of Two-Fact, etc.

How exactly was the third act mismanaged?

With Freeman, build up wasn't warranted. He found out about what Bruce was working on in the last act that questioned his morals. Wouldn't it have been a bit weird or off if Nolan had a previous conflict with that same thing in the second act? Having Lucious threaten to quit that early in the film. I thought it was put in just fine in the third act.

I don't think Two-Face was rushed. He actually got backstory and a lot more depth than the other villains. Yeah, we didn't get a lot of time with actual Two-Face, but it was Dent's overall story arc that made that character great. The characters were one and the same.

And Inception, I mean, no characters aside from Leo or Murphy were developed. There was seriously more development of the supporting characters in The Expendables. And that's fine, Inception didn't really call for development outside of Leo's character....but still, its not exactly great cast management.

To be fair, I haven't seen too many heist films where a lot of the supporting characters got major development either.

I see what you're saying Matt, and understand your worries for this film, but I don't think it will be as bad as you say. Part of that is because I'm not sold on Cottilard being in the film as of yet. If she is, I think he'll give the appropriate amount of screentime to the characters that deserve it the most.

[KILLING JOKER]

Watanbe has never been huge in the States and Hauer hasn't really been huge since the 80s. Fitchner has always been a bit part guy (aside from Prison Break).

I think its different when you're casting two hot as hell actors (JGL has been getting all kinds of praise and is in the midst of a comeback, where as Cottilard is basically exploding at the moment).

Have either of those been confirmed yet? JGL and Cottilard?

[Figs]

But that works for the Joker as he has always been a character who is cloaked in mystery. It helps that his motivation does not need to be presented as rational (as the whole point of the character is that he is a mad man). Other characters, you need to establish their motivation, how they came to be, why they are doing what they are doing, their personality, etc.

Well take these two examples based on the current rumours.

If Cottilard does turn out to be Talia, her motivation won't require a lot of time to express to the audience. It's one of the reasons why I never really wanted her in this film. There's a huge chance that her motiviation will be revenge for her father's death, or simply wanting to finish what he was going to do.

If JGL is playing Carmine's son, depending on if they change the character a bit, he'll either be another mobster trying to fill his dad's shoes, or going against what his father was for. It's a character that doesn't need a lengthy explanation of his past.

[Matt]

He used the character as needed for the story he was telling. Crane/Scarecrow was there as the plant in Gotham for Ras to work with. When he "disappears" it's because Batman stops him and Crane gets locked up until the LoS breaks him out. I agree that at the end he did go out like a ***** from Rachel, but Ras was always meant to be the main threat of that film, much like Joker in TDK.

Perhaps, but it still seemed rushed. They should've just left him in prison rather than had him pop up say, "BOOOO! REMEMBER ME!!!," and then disappear again.


How exactly was the third act mismanaged?

With Freeman, build up wasn't warranted. He found out about what Bruce was working on in the last act that questioned his morals. Wouldn't it have been a bit weird or off if Nolan had a previous conflict with that same thing in the second act? Having Lucious threaten to quit that early in the film. I thought it was put in just fine in the third act.

The thing is, why did you even have it? It felt artificial and shoehorned in as a way to give Freeman something to do other than make well placed quips. And why was Lucius suddenly so offended? He has no problem building Batman a tank that runs over police cars and endangers lives of bystanders or aiding in the invasion of a foreign country but spying on people to stop a crazed terrorist who is an immediet threat to thousands is too far? We don't know enough about Lucius to know why that one thing hit him so hard. We should have. Either that, or we should have seen Bruce maybe manipulate his trip to China to grab Lao rather than have him be complacent in it. Build up to the sense of betrayal.


I don't think Two-Face was rushed. He actually got backstory and a lot more depth than the other villains. Yeah, we didn't get a lot of time with actual Two-Face, but it was Dent's overall story arc that made that character great. The characters were one and the same.

We should've seen Harvey's fall. He goes from being happy go lucky to going on a killing spree in the span of twenty minutes.


To be fair, I haven't seen too many heist films where a lot of the supporting characters got major development either.

Not exactly high art, but I think that the Ocean movies are a perfect example of how to work with an ensemble and still develop the cast.


I see what you're saying Matt, and understand your worries for this film, but I don't think it will be as bad as you say. Part of that is because I'm not sold on Cottilard being in the film as of yet. If she is, I think he'll give the appropriate amount of screentime to the characters that deserve it the most.

I hope you're right.

Well take these two examples based on the current rumours.

If Cottilard does turn out to be Talia, her motivation won't require a lot of time to express to the audience. It's one of the reasons why I never really wanted her in this film. There's a huge chance that her motiviation will be revenge for her father's death, or simply wanting to finish what he was going to do.

If JGL is playing Carmine's son, depending on if they change the character a bit, he'll either be another mobster trying to fill his dad's shoes, or going against what his father was for. It's a character that doesn't need a lengthy explanation of his past.

Maybe not, but the whole secret daughter who comes out of no where seems....cliche.

[*Whiplash*]

We should've seen Harvey's fall. He goes from being happy go lucky to going on a killing spree in the span of twenty minutes.

Well, ''in the span of twenty minutes'', he gets kidnapped, his girlfriend and future wife gets killed and then one side of his face basically disappears.

I wonder why he went on that ''killing spree''....

[Paste Pot Pete]

a cheap plot device to find the Joker rather than real detective work from Bruce (which would've served as development of the character)

How is detective work character development? He's already been shown to be a damn good detective. He singlehandedly brought down Carmine Falcone through detective work (in his first case!), along with everything else he's done.

The sonar device, on the other hand, showed us how far Bruce will go to stop a criminal. Exploring the moral implications of Bruce's work is far more interesting (and character building).

[Paste Pot Pete]

Wasn't the point of Harvey kidnapping and threatening Thomas Schiff to show us that Harvey was already kind of unhinged? He obviously had demons.

[Figs]

Perhaps, but it still seemed rushed. They should've just left him in prison rather than had him pop up say, "BOOOO! REMEMBER ME!!!," and then disappear again.

I guess that last bit, while rushed, they felt was needed since he escaped with the rest of the inmates. He was one of the villains in the film, and I think it would have been stranger to have him just disappear after the escape from Arkham. They wanted some kind of temporary closure, even if it was a bit sloppy.

The thing is, why did you even have it? It felt artificial and shoehorned in as a way to give Freeman something to do other than make well placed quips. And why was Lucius suddenly so offended?He has no problem building Batman a tank that runs over police cars and endangers lives of bystanders or aiding in the invasion of a foreign country but spying on people to stop a crazed terrorist who is an immediet threat to thousands is too far? We don't know enough about Lucius to know why that one thing hit him so hard. We should have. Either that, or we should have seen Bruce maybe manipulate his trip to China to grab Lao rather than have him be complacent in it. Build up to the sense of betrayal.

The Tumbler was already built as a war vehicle, and in BB Lucious already says he doesn't want to know what Bruce is using these things for so he doesn't have to lie if he's asked by Mr. Earle or maybe the police. With the Tumbler it's not like Batman started shooting people or running them down immoraly. He ran over the front of a cop car, which Lucious didn't witness himself. All he knows is that Bruce is trying to do good for the city, the Tumbler in Fox's eyes is just Batman's method of transportation.

With the mapping device, it's more on the immoral side of things by allowing the person to invade anyone's privacy. I say that's a large step above a large vehicle causing some propery damage here and there as well as aiding Batman in capturing a criminal, even if it's in his homeland.

We should've seen Harvey's fall. He goes from being happy go lucky to going on a killing spree in the span of twenty minutes.

I wouldn't say it was in the span of twenty minutes. As the film progressed he started becoming more obsesses and filled with anger and frustration. Just look at the scene where he brakes down and actually brings that thug into the alley threatening to shoot him, and then angrily yells at Batman "YOU CAN'T GIVE IN!". Looking at the calm, honorable man he was before that, I say those are steps into his downward spiral. What threw him over the edge was when Rachel died. That was the straw that broke the camel's back as they say.

Not exactly high art, but I think that the Ocean movies are a perfect example of how to work with an ensemble and still develop the cast.

Those are fairly good ensemble films, but the characters didn't get the kind of backstory I thought you were wanting from the characters in Nolans next film. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you mean screentime as opposed to actual character beginnings?

Maybe not, but the whole secret daughter who comes out of no where seems....cliche.

That's exactly why I never wanted Talia in this film in the first place. The secret daughter out of nowhere factor as well as the cliche "you killed my so and so, you must pay!".

[bullets]

We should've seen Harvey's fall. He goes from being happy go lucky to going on a killing spree in the span of twenty minutes.



I don't agree with this , there was a scene prior to Rachel's death where Harvey was about to kill someone ,I believe, before Batman intervened. I think there was enough build to push Two-Face over the edge.

[Wolverine1988]

I always felt that Nolan hinted at Dent having a bit of a darkside to beging with, that whole scene where Dent gets a hold of Jokers goon and threatens him for information, reminded me alot of TAS and them going the route that Dent always had a a dark side and the accident just pushed him over the edger.

If you think about it as the Joker keeps defying Batman and the police , the more Dent was getting bit more edgy and seemed like he might be losing it, him losing his wife and having half his face burtn off was just the icing on the cake .

The one part to this day i have a hard time understanding is how Joker was able to so easily corrupt Dent, didn't come across as such a convincing way if anything it made Joker seem more of the man responsible than the mob or police.

[bullets]

Wasn't the point of Harvey kidnapping and threatening Thomas Schiff to show us that Harvey was already kind of unhinged? He obviously had demons.


That's what I was about to mention. Basically they were planting the seeds.

[bullets]

The one part to this day i have a hard time understanding is how Joker was able to so easily corrupt Dent, didn't come across as such a convincing way if anything it made Joker seem more of the man responsible than the mob or police.


I think Harvey was ready to carry out justice his own way after Rachel's death. Joker was just the catalyst at that point. Also Joker would of gotten his head blown off if the coin landed the other way.

[The Guard]

Meh.

If it turns out Joseph Gordon Levitt, Tom Hardy and Marion Cottilard are in this movie...wow.

[kvz5]

HitFix is trying to confirm the Marion story with WB but they have no response yet:

http://www.hitfix.com/articles/report-marion-cotillard-reuniting-with-christopher-nolan-for-the-dark-knight-rises

[Macphisto]

Not exactly high art, but I think that the Ocean movies are a perfect example of how to work with an ensemble and still develop the cast.

I think Heat is a great example because it's the kind of film Nolan aspired to make with TDK but just fell short.

[Hamill-Joker]

As far as Harvey's fall goes, if you think his fall was rushed or just happened, then you weren't paying attention.

From the very beginning he had an uneasy relationship with Gordon, working with corrupt cops, Lau being tipped off. As already said, he's willing to do what it takes to get the job done. He threatens Schiff, he puts his own life on the line by pretending to be Batman in order to take down The Joker.

Then finally, The Joker is captured and everything appears fine. Then the corrupt cops kidnap him and Rachel. Rachel dies, Harvey is burned, and The Joker escapes with Lau. Everything is undone and Rachel is dead because of Gordon's "deal with the devil." All of it ended up being for nothing. He was right on the edge and all the Joker did was give him a little push.

At that point you could make the argument that he already dead in his mind. By his words you could see the final standoff at the end, it was his endgame: "There is no escape from this."

I think it is easy to simplify the whole thing, but it was really built up well.

I trust Nolan enough when it comes to having many different actors in a film.

[lgi]

She can play Harley Quinn. She has does crazy eyes. Just an idea. Or Bane's mother in prison flashbacks.

[raybia]

I hope this rumor is true and i hope she's Talia Al Ghul

http://batman-news.com/2011/02/13/marion-cotillard-in-the-dark-knight-rises-after-all/

Me too but I have a feeling no. And if she is, will she be Talia? I have a feeling no but a good feeling she will be Sofia Falcone.

[jazzmatik]

All that needs to happen now is cast Leo with a silver briefcase and Nolan can make 2 movies into 1.

[graphikcontent]

Are we even sure she's really going to be in the film at all? I'm not a Talia fan so I REALLY hope Selina Kyle ends up being the love interest and Talia purely a villain.

[Arta]

If all this is true, I trust Nolan can balance out their roles. Just because they are stars doesn't mean they will be in top billing roles, they could just be filling out regular roles.

Besides, you're all forgetting something: Nolan already had Marion Cotillard as his first choice for Catwoman. The only reason he had to go casting is because the actress is pregnant and is having her kid in May (which is when DKR starts filming). She's not going to leave her first child at home during those first couple months to go film a movie. Also, she'd have to have time to recover, then get into shape and prepare for the role. I just don't see any woman doing that.

Now they say that the DKR shoot might be just a little longer than what it took to shoot Inception (6 months), so she'll might have time to join the shoot late in the game, but even then that means her character can't be one that's prominently present in the film

[ChrisB]

Are we even sure she's really going to be in the film at all? I'm not a Talia fan so I REALLY hope Selina Kyle ends up being the love interest and Talia purely a villain.
No it's just a rumor at this point. Apparently this is a popular Le Figaro is a popular newspaper in France though. We'll have to wait and see...

[Paste Pot Pete]

Besides, you're all forgetting something: Nolan already had Marion Cotillard as his first choice for Catwoman. The only reason he had to go casting is because the actress is pregnant and is having her kid in May (which is when DKR starts filming). She's not going to leave her first child at home during those first couple months to go film a movie. Also, she'd have to have time to recover, then get into shape and prepare for the role. I just don't see any woman doing that.



Where is this from?

[FlawlessVictory]

If all this is true, I trust Nolan can balance out their roles. Just because they are stars doesn't mean they will be in top billing roles, they could just be filling out regular roles.

I trust Nolan, he has yet to disappoint me but even I have to admit that if Talia is in this film and with the inclusion of JGL(assuming he's a somewhat major character) that this could be too much for him too juggle and do everyone justice.

Besides, you're all forgetting something: Nolan already had Marion Cotillard as his first choice for Catwoman.

I have not heard this. What is your source?

[bullets]

Besides, you're all forgetting something: Nolan already had Marion Cotillard as his first choice for Catwoman. The only reason he had to go casting is because the actress is pregnant and is having her kid in May (which is when DKR starts filming).


You must be right, I have no recollection of this at all.. strange.

[wootbaby]

Watanbe has never been huge in the States and Hauer hasn't really been huge since the 80s. Fitchner has always been a bit part guy (aside from Prison Break).

I think its different when you're casting two hot as hell actors (JGL has been getting all kinds of praise and is in the midst of a comeback, where as Cottilard is basically exploding at the moment).

Lol I'm glad she's exploding but then she's an amazing woman because she's been exploding at least for four years since 2007 when she won an Oscar all the way back to 2003 when she was first nominated for a Cesar.

What possible difference does it make what social status an actor has when in fact they're acting? That goes against the very idea of performance in a role and if you're watching movies and cant separate the persona of an actor and their performance in film "your doing it wrong."

As for Marion being Catwoman, no. Guys get confused because she is sexy but Catwoman is an American woman. She's an icon of American female strength and allure. Marion is all wrong for that, not particularly because she's French but because she doesn't give that sort of vibe in her performance. Anne is a crappy actress but she at least has an all American presence on screen. I'm still not happy with most of Nolan's casting of female leads (Maggie Gyllenhaal was crap in TDK) but I can at least see where Nolan is going with Anne. Catwoman isn't exotic, Talia is. Marion fits that role.

[LostSon88]

Me too but I have a feeling no. And if she is, will she be Talia? I have a feeling no but a good feeling she will be Sofia Falcone.

Well the SHH homepage suggests that she will play Talia Al Ghul and Gordon-Levitt will play Alberto Falcone.

The villains of TDKR are the children of the villains from Batman Begins?!

Now THAT is an interesting way to take it. And in a way, it also could introduce the idea of Bruce confronting his own issues regarding his father and whether or not his life as Batman have tainted the Wayne Legacy (in his eyes).

If this is the theme for TDKR, I find it fascinating.

...again, IF this all turns out to be true. :cwink:

[the Wankstar]

Well the SHH homepage suggests that she will play Talia Al Ghul and Gordon-Levitt will play Alberto Falcone.

The villains of TDKR are the children of the villains from Batman Begins?!

Now THAT is an interesting way to take it. And in a way, it also could introduce the idea of Bruce confronting his own issues regarding his father and whether or not his life as Batman have tainted the Wayne Legacy (in his eyes).

If this is the theme for TDKR, I find it fascinating.

...again, IF this all turns out to be true. :cwink:

I like where your heads at and also by discussing the actual topic not more pointless whinning about too many people being in it.

[jkhoo714]

Seems like everyone has forgotten that Nolan & Co. have been planning to cast 2 female roles. SInce one was Hathaway, there was definately one more coming. I Personally think Catwoman is going to be not just a villain but also good in the end coming to help Batman against Talia & Bane. THis also resembles the comic story where Bane was hired by Talia which obviously is in revenge for her father. How else could Nolan wrap his trilogy together?

I'm starting to feel hopeful that the JGL "Robin" rumor seems unlikely and I'd prefer him as part of the mob.

However I'm still concerned about the "RW" hugo strange rumor. I just can't see RW vs Bale. THen again, who woulda believed Hardy was bane a few months ago. So who knows

[iamcitizen]

I think Heat is a great example because it's the kind of film Nolan aspired to make with TDK but just fell short.

1) TDK was a completely different genre than the Oceans movies. The Oceans movies were heist comedies. TDK had more in common with Heat. 2) TDK was several times better than the best of the Oceans movies. Obviously this is just my opinion, but I just disagree so strongly with you that I had to say it.

[phantasmata]

As for Marion being Catwoman, no. Guys get confused because she is sexy but Catwoman is an American woman. She's an icon of American female strength and allure. Marion is all wrong for that, not particularly because she's French but because she doesn't give that sort of vibe in her performance. Anne is a crappy actress but she at least has an all American presence on screen. I'm still not happy with most of Nolan's casting of female leads (Maggie Gyllenhaal was crap in TDK) but I can at least see where Nolan is going with Anne. Catwoman isn't exotic, Talia is. Marion fits that role.

couldn't you say the same thing about bale? he doesn't have that chiseled all-american superhero look (like, say, channing tatum) but so what? it's acting. same thing with ledger. he didn't look like the classic depiction of the joker at all but he totally owned that role. not to mention both of them are not american.

[Eelectro 2]

i would find it very interesting if the son and daughter of 2 of the villains in the first film are in this one, but not just them, bane and catwoman apparently.

now, theres nothing wrong with having multiple villains in a film...the problem most superhero movies is having them be a whole bunch of supervillains and they crowd each other. i believe that bane would be connected to both these characters and they would be their own force to take down batman or wayne enterprises.

the first film had scarecrow, falcone, the fake ras al ghul and then the real one- two supervillains and two bad guys.

the 2nd film had joker, two-face, scarecrow, maroni and lau- three supervillains and 2 bad guys.

if this info is true we might have bane as the only supervillain and the real threat might come from falcone's son and ras' daughter. we dont yet kno if catwoman is going to be in this even tho selena kyle is (im going to assume that catwoman is otherwise they could have used a different character entirely). and if she is in it she could represent a villain that ends up helping batman out in the end so theres nothing wrong with that. the first 2 films had a lot of characters in them, maybe this film wont introduce more but work with what we already have and just have these few characters working together (no henchmen) and its just them. batman up against 3 baddies at once? not too much too take in given he takes on crowds of bad guys at a time. i would assume ras' daughter would be trained in combat- not falcones son. hed just bring the gangsters and i'll think until proven otherwise that the fear serum falcone, scarecrow and ras al ghul were all involved with will somehow be linked to a newer version which will create banes hulking transformation

and its not hard to imagine bane will have cg-enhanced muscles to some extent given cg has been used for the villains in the past 2 films

[Happy Jack]

I doubt Cotillard will be in the film.

[Macphisto]

1) TDK was a completely different genre than the Oceans movies. The Oceans movies were heist comedies. TDK had more in common with Heat. 2) TDK was several times better than the best of the Oceans movies. Obviously this is just my opinion, but I just disagree so strongly with you that I had to say it.
Eh? I said Heat, not Oceans...

[iamcitizen]

Eh? I said Heat, not Oceans...

Damn, my bad. I read "I think Heat is a great example..." as "I think that is a great example..." referring to the Oceans movies that the poster you quoted was talking about. Sorry about that.

[Nirvana]

Not sure if I believe this.

[Doctor Who]

Is it me or has there been awful lot of bad news follow up? I mean, it seems like it's repeating all over again; Robin Williams has been rumored for all Batman roles for years (Jett blowing it out of his @$$, but still not the point), JGL on the list before the movie came into production, and where Marion came into play I still to this day have no idea, but it's the second time she's been in the running. I honestly feel like people are dusting off old rumors and trying to sell them new; or am I off my rocker?

[LostSon88]

I've kinda learned to pretty much not take ANY stock into any rumors that come from a foreign source...

Like you said, most of the time they're simply just stating random gossip to sell papers and/or to attract attention to their homegrown talent.

Like that lame Austrailian paper that started that rumor that Sam Worthington was set to replace Christian Bale for Batman 3 around the time Avatar came out... :whatever:

Just people trying to get a lil' attention.

...having said that, this rumor would be pretty sweet if it came true. :woot:

[flickchick85]

I'd be thrilled with this news if it were true (and if it were, I'd bet on Talia)...but I don't think it is. The woman will have JUST given birth. I'd be shocked and amazed if she were up to shooting a blockbuster so soon.

[Nave 'Torment']

What's crazier still is that the MINUTE Bane and Catwoman had been confirmed the rumours exploded all over the place. Somewhere Aaron Eckhart is in tears.

[hatebox]

I expect the JGL rumour to be true as someone would have denied it by now if it weren't. The Cotillard thing just stikes me as hearsay for now though - 'she's worked with Nolan before, she's bound to be in it!'. New mothers tend to want to spend time with their babies even after the birth....

[Octoberist]

JGL is probably legit and they're just waiting for the right moment. I have got a feeling about this week, we'll know more about it. Or Superman.

[Anchor_Content]

I don't think I see Cottilard's Talia fitting in as well as maybe Janice Porter or even as Vicki Vale or Julie Madison. I'm all for Marion as Janice Porter.

JGL just needs to be cast as Alberto Falcone.

With Janice Porter (as a double-dealing anti-Batman DA), Alberto Falcone (as the man after his father's own empire), and Bane (as the man who unites them all and breaks Batman), it will set the stage for...

Anyone ready?

... a "Godfather"-esque third act in which Batman and Selina Kyle (as an anti-heroine) mastermind a response that neutralizes all three threats. Revealing Bruce's genius and the need for Batman.

:)

[Nave 'Torment']

I wouldn't mind a Godfather-esque third act at all. I wonder if it's Janice Porter as the new DA, if there will be a hint of how she's "replacing Rachel" when in reality it's Selina?

Who're we kidding, Harvey Dent replaced her in TDK.

[jmc]

I really cannot see her stepping into filming so soon after her bub is born. Plus, I have a hard time believing they would schedule the shoot around her maternity leave.

[Nave 'Torment']

Was it really just last week that we heard about the Levitt rumour? It feels like a lifetime already.

[Octoberist]

I think we need stop thinking like fans and start thinking as human beings. Like what JMC said, this is her first kid and I can't see her jumping at the chance of working two months after. I wouldn't be surprised if she told the rest of the year off.

[BatFan88]

i dont understand this.Why choose the whole inception cast almost??.

[iamcitizen]

Looks like People is reporting it and citing their own sources in addition to the French magazine:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20466079,00.html

Sources also tell PEOPLE that the La Vie en Rose Oscar winner, who is expecting a baby in April with her French actor-director beau Guillaume Canet, signed onto the Batman project Saturday in Paris.

[Nave 'Torment']

No BatFan88, the question we should be asking is, why were Leo and Ellen left out? Whyy?!?

[jmc]

The only way I can see her in the film is if it's a small role, perhaps a flashback sequence. I cannot imagine her having a large part in the movie. I don't have a kid so I might be talking out of my arse but I'd imagine she'd want to spend as much time with her new born as possible for those first few months. Ladies (or lady, I know there's not many of you here :hehe:) help me out here, how many of you would jump back into work not long after popping a kid out?

[TheBatman072]

They don't cite sources, they say "our sources also say".

Not the same thing.

[J.Howlett]

I don't know. Not saying that People is the best source for this kind of information but it is interesting that they've reported it with their "sources".

Either way, something is up.

If this film shoots between May and November, it's not unreasonable to see Marion come into the production sometime in August or September. They could easily push her scenes back towards the end of production because of her pregnancy.

Films are never shoot in continuity anyway.

Whatever this is, I'm sure Nolan and Collitard have had serious discussions about this thing....IF TRUE.

I would love to have her in this film. Frankly, after Inception, I want to see her in everything.

[iamcitizen]

They don't cite sources, they say "our sources also say".

Not the same thing.

What do you want? There not gonna say "Jeff Smith, who works for Warner Brothers as a low-level executive, tells us that..."

[childeroland]

Bane, Catwoman, Batman and ?Talia? doesn't sound like too much for Nolan to handle. Caine and Freeman may have reduced roles, and JGL's role may be relatively small.

[iamcitizen]

Bane, Catwoman, Batman and ?Talia? doesn't sound like too much for Nolan to handle. Caine and Freeman may have reduced roles, and JGL's role may be relatively small.

People worrying about there being too many villains should keep in mind that Rachel had a good deal of screen time in th first two movies, time that's up for grabs in TDKR.

[MiniBond]

The rumor is spreading everywhere.... I say there's no smoke without fire !:hyper:

[Caped Crusader]

So People is saying that Marion has signed on too.

Sources also tell PEOPLE that the La Vie en Rose Oscar winner, who is expecting a baby in April with her French actor-director beau Guillaume Canet, signed onto the Batman project Saturday in Paris.

The Batman movie will also reunite Cotillard with her Inception director Christopher Nolan and costars Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Tom Hardy. Others in the cast include Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman.

According to sources, Cotillard will start shooting at London's Elstree Studios in mid-June, then move on to locations in Pittsburgh and Los Angeles this summer. Filming is expected to wrap in New York in November, with the picture's release set for July 2012.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20466079,00.html

[BatFan88]

And Anne is a way better actress then Cottillard.Sorry for saying this :D

[lililatigresse]

Another french source confirmed it: a big gossips magazine in France called "Voici" (Le Figaro is a respectful newspaper). Voici is saying that Marion just signed and that the shooting will start near London in june.

[Van Petrol]

Hmm...as regards to the 'People' article, it states London Elstree and Pittsburgh as potential filming locations. As far as I can understand, production on Nolan's films in the UK have mainly taken place at Pinewood and Shepperton, never at Elstree as far as I know. And have we even heard anything about Pittsburgh as of yet? Even being potentially rumoured as a scouting location?

[graphikcontent]

I don't think it'll be too much for Nolan to handle. I mean Selina Kyle/Catwoman is definitely not going to be a villain, so I think its safe to assume she'll be the love-interest. So that leaves us with Alberto Falcone, Bane, and Talia. That's plenty to work with but the glass won't runneth over if he keeps it at three villains.

[Jokers_Wild]

I believe fully that Marion and JGL will be in this film. Nolan knows what he's doing. I have full faith that we won't get a SM3 debacle. Also, I think if she doesn't start till June, that will give her enough time with the baby. She'll probably bring the baby with her on set anyway! It's probably really hard to turn down an offer to be in the final Nolan Batflick...especially knowing how much it will help her career.

[kvz5]

So People is saying that Marion has signed on too.



http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20466079,00.html

This is interesting since it not only confirms Marion, it also confirms JGL as well as some locations we haven't heard about like Pittsburg. I don't think casting news is their expertise but I think this could be legit. Marion's part looks big though if she's shooting at all those locations.

[Boom]

I'm going to have to side with JMC on this.

Now, I am not Marion Cotillard. Nor am I her agent, friend, or close relative. So I'm really in no position to say anything regarding her life choices.

But personally, I find it hard to believe that a first-time mother, with the financial luxury to take off work for an extended period of time, would jump into a massive blockbuster film during the first six months of her newborn child's life.

I also find it hard to believe that Nolan thinks Cotillard is so perfect for this role, that he went through the trouble of scheduling around her maternity leave, when there are plenty of talented actresses out their that could have easily sufficed.

Until I hear otherwise from a concrete source, I'm calling ********.

[J.Howlett]

Boom,

You assume that she's going to be working the full six months. If anything, I think we can assume that Bale's probably the only cast member who's going to be working the most...and even he's going to get a few breaks in the film.

And again, who says she starts shooting in May. For all we know, she'll have two days in May, four days in June, 2 days in July, 5 days in August, 1 day in September, 5 days in October, and a whole week in November.

That's not technically working the entire production.

[Donut]

Nolan is the next Burton in terms of re hiring the same cast. Lets get Leo & Hugh Jackman in here

[BigEggo]

And Anne is a way better actress then Cottillard.Sorry for saying this :D

very amusing.

assuming that youre joking of course.

ide like to see cotillard as lady shiva too,itde lend some weight to levitt as azrael and that would make me J in my P.

[Boom]

I didn't make the assumption that she'd be there the whole time. At least, I didn't mean to give that impression. I said "during" the six months, not "for." I suppose I should have been more specific.

[iamcitizen]

But personally, I find it hard to believe that a first-time mother, with the financial luxury to take off work for an extended period of time, would jump into a massive blockbuster film during the first six months of her newborn child's life.

She will if she seriously wants to be a big star in Hollywood. She won an Oscar, and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She starred opposite Johnny Depp and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She starred opposite Leonardo DiCaprio and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She 35 years old- this is the last good chance she's going to get.

Besides, she'll still get a couple months off with her baby before she has to go to work. That's about what normal, non-actor folk get.

[MiniBond]

She will if she seriously wants to be a big star in Hollywood. She won an Oscar, and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She starred opposite Johnny Depp and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She starred opposite Leonardo DiCaprio and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She 35 years old- this is the last good chance she's going to get.

Besides, she'll still get a couple months off with her baby before she has to go to work. That's about what normal, non-actor folk get.

you're making her look like a desperate housewife...let's not get carried away !:whatever::woot:

[Boom]

She will if she seriously wants to be a big star in Hollywood. She won an Oscar, and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She starred opposite Johnny Depp and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She starred opposite Leonardo DiCaprio and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She 35 years old- this is the last good chance she's going to get.
I've never gotten the impression that Cotillard wanted to be a huge movie star.

Besides, she'll still get a couple months off with her baby before she has to go to work. That's about what normal, non-actor folk get.
Sure. But she's not non-actor folk. She's an actress. So she has the luxury to take more time off to spend with her child. Some would consider that a gift worth taking advantage of.

Look, I'm not going to complain if this ends up being true (Now, if she's cast as Talia, that's a whole other issue). Nor will I call her a horrible mother for doing so. I'm just trying to think what I would do if I were in her situation.

[*Whiplash*]

I would expect that they would film all of her scenes when she's ready so she could get back to her newborn until the movie comes out.

Saying that, we don't know who she is and what she's going to do in TDKR but I think that makes sense.

[DIRECTOR]

all talk talk talk


PICTURES DAMN IT

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'd like Talia to make an appearance because it makes the trilogy come full circle.

[iamcitizen]

I've never gotten the impression that Cotillard wanted to be a huge movie star.


Well she's making English language movies in Hollywood for one thing.


Look, I'm not going to complain if this ends up being true (Now, if she's cast as Talia, that's a whole other issue). Nor will I call her a horrible mother for doing so. I'm just trying to think what I would do if I were in her situation.

Yeah, me too. I'd take the job.

[Boom]

Well, since I'm a Batman fan (and not a first-time mother), I most certainly would too.

[FlawlessVictory]

I'm going to have to side with JMC on this.

Now, I am not Marion Cotillard. Nor am I her agent, friend, or close relative. So I'm really in no position to say anything regarding her life choices.

But personally, I find it hard to believe that a first-time mother, with the financial luxury to take off work for an extended period of time, would jump into a massive blockbuster film during the first six months of her newborn child's life.

I also find it hard to believe that Nolan thinks Cotillard is so perfect for this role, that he went through the trouble of scheduling around her maternity leave, when there are plenty of talented actresses out their that could have easily sufficed.

Until I hear otherwise from a concrete source, I'm calling ********.

Completely agreed.

[iamcitizen]

Well, since I'm a Batman fan (and not a first-time mother), I most certainly would too.

I apologize in case I wasn't clear: I'm not talking about whether or not she should take the role, or whether or not she should take a long time off. I'm just saying that it's ridiculous to call BS on this report just because it would mean cutting short her maternity leave. Angelina Jolie has like 18 kids and she's never gone a year without making a movie.

[hatebox]

EW.com are reporting her joining the film as fact now. An entertainment website of that size should know better, really.

[kvz5]

THR is also reporting this now! Said she's "in discussions" but not confirmed yet. They said the role is for the love interest and Nolan is talking with Watts, Weisz and... KATE WINSLET!

[hatebox]

Love interest?

With Catwoman already on board this aspect of the film is going to be busy.

[FlawlessVictory]

Marion Cotillard 'in Discussions' to Join 'Dark Knight Rises'

8:58 AM 2/14/2011 by Rebecca Leffler, Borys Kit

Her rep tells THR that "nothing has been confirmed yet," but the move would reunite her with "Inception" director Christopher Nolan.

Marion Cotillard may join the cast of The Dark Knight Rises.

A rep for the actress in Paris said that her involvement in the film is currently "in discussions, but nothing has been confirmed yet." WB France has yet to comment.

The actress, who is pregnant and due in the spring, is discussing scheduling issues.

The plan is for Cotillard to start shooting mid-June in London, film all summer in L.A. and Pittsburgh and wrap mid-November in New York.

The French actress' name has arisen before in connection with the Warner Bros. movie, which will be directed by her Inception helmer Christopher Nolan.

Nolan had been focusing on finding the romantic lead for Christian Bale in recent weeks, reading and meeting with several actresses, including Kate Winslet, Rachel Weisz and Naomi Watts, according to insiders.

While Anne Hathaway is cast as Catwoman, the other female role is suspected to be that of Thalia Al Ghul, the daughter of the villain played by Liam Neeson in Nolan's first movie, Batman Begins.

French newspaper Le Figaro (http://www.lefigaro.fr/mon-figaro/2011/02/11/10001-20110211ARTFIG00757-marion-cotillard-dans-batman-3.php)reported the deal was official, and Cotillard would join the production this summer.



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/marion-cotillard-discussions-join-dark-99242

[kvz5]

@THR: Marion Cotillard 'in Discussions' to Join 'Dark Knight Rises' http://bit.ly/elFqMB

[J.Howlett]

Well, there it is.

Hopefully, this can be worked out because I need her to be in this film.

[Laderlappen]

She will if she seriously wants to be a big star in Hollywood. She won an Oscar, and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She starred opposite Johnny Depp and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She starred opposite Leonardo DiCaprio and it didn't make her a Movie Star. She 35 years old- this is the last good chance she's going to get.

Besides, she'll still get a couple months off with her baby before she has to go to work. That's about what normal, non-actor folk get.You really think she would rather try to become a celebrity than to take care of her new baby? Having the paparaazzis follow you is something you cant say no to right?

[Boom]

"Nothing has been confirmed yet."

That pretty much confirms it.

[Arta]

"Nothing has been confirmed yet."

That pretty much confirms it.:awesome:

[FlawlessVictory]

At least it certainly confirms Talia will be in this movie.

[J.Howlett]

Personally, I don't see Marion as playing the romantic lead. I think that's going to fall to Hathaway.

Marion's playing Talia. Gotta be. Remember the Wally Pfister interview where he says Rises "ties everything all together." There are a lot of ways to do that but the most obvious way and the way that most trilogies do it is to specifically tie the first film to the last film and in this instance, it's Talia taking over her father's place....

This is just plain common sense.

[Boom]

Interesting that this is supposedly for Bruce Wayne's love interest.

Wonder what that means for Catwoman.

[iamcitizen]

You really think she would rather try to become a celebrity than to take care of her new baby? Having the paparaazzis follow you is something you cant say no to right?

AGAIN, I'm not telling her how to raise her kid. I'm just saying that it is not inconceivable that she would shoot this movie shortly after giving birth. I'm arguing against people who don't think it is possible she will be in this movie, not against people who think she should take time off to be with her baby.

That said, going back to work a couple months after giving birth =/= not taking care of her baby.

[lukey37]

Deadline says they will have clarity on the story today.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/in-other-deals-french-paper-taps-marion-cotillard-for-batflick-broadway-spider-man-getting-more-bad-press/

They get all the Batman/Superman scoops so I'll trust what they say as and when it comes.

[BatFan88]

No jokes Anne is better then Marion.

[Boom]

Someone should remind Nolan that this is The Dark Knight Rises.

Not Inception 2.

:awesome:

[FlawlessVictory]

Someone should remind Nolan that this is The Dark Knight Rises, not Inception 2.

:awesome:

Well remember when Inception was being cast and there were some people who were convinced that it wasn't really Inception but the cast being announced was really for the next Batman? :woot:

[Arta]

At least it certainly confirms Talia will be in this movie.She could well be a new DA to replace Dent or a new lawyer to replace Rachel just as much as Talia Al Ghul.

..........
































Talia please! :woot:

[MiniBond]

Deadline says they will have clarity on the story today.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/in-other-deals-french-paper-taps-marion-cotillard-for-batflick-broadway-spider-man-getting-more-bad-press/

They get all the Batman/Superman scoops so I'll trust what they say as and when it comes.



this definitely smells official announcement soon !!!!!:awesome::awesome:

[kvz5]

If Cottilard is in fact chosen, I find it interesting that Nolan still went with her considering that he met with other actresses too (Weisz, Watts and Winslet) who have no pregnancy issues. Granted, it's possible that the other three might have scheduling conflicts. Cottilard looks the closest to Bale's age though so that might just be the reason or Nolan just feels comfortable with someone he worked with previously.

So, it looks like Anne will be a full out villain? Or it could be something along the likes of IM2 with Pepper (older, love interest) and Black Widow (younger, not really a love interest).

[FlawlessVictory]

If Cottilard is in fact chosen, I find it interesting that Nolan still went with her considering that he met with other actresses too (Weisz, Watts and Winslet) who have no pregnancy issues.

Nolan is very loyal to actors he has previously worked with. If he could, he probably would have cast Leo as Catwoman. :o

[J.Howlett]

I don't see Anne as the full villain here. The best Catwoman stories never have her as an out and out villain. I honestly believe that it's Marion who's the villain.

[Gianakin_]

I don't see Anne as the full villain here. The best Catwoman stories never have her as an out and out villain. I honestly believe that it's Marion who's the villain.

Agreed.

[Laderlappen]

AGAIN, I'm not telling her how to raise her kid. I'm just saying that it is not inconceivable that she would shoot this movie shortly after giving birth. I'm arguing against people who don't think it is possible she will be in this movie, not against people who think she should take time off to be with her baby.

That said, going back to work a couple months after giving birth =/= not taking care of her baby.Ok I agree with that. But just because she is doing american movies doesnt mean she does it so she can become a celebrity. She is already famous enough for the A-list actors and directors to want to work with her. Just ask Chris Nolan, Michael Mann, Steven Soderbergh, Woody Allen, Leonardo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp, Christian Bale, Daniel Day-Lewis, Kate WInslet, Nicole Kidman, and many more.

[BatFan88]

Someone should remind Nolan that this is The Dark Knight Rises.

Not Inception 2.

:awesome:

:awesome: True True.

[BatFan88]

this definitely smells official announcement soon !!!!!:awesome::awesome:

I hope so :awesome:

[kvz5]

Someone should remind Nolan that this is The Dark Knight Rises.

Not Inception 2.

:awesome:

Inception Featuring Christian Bale and Anne Hathaway. :awesome:

Anne is totally the new kid on the block. Everyone knows each other already except her!

[Miranda Fox]

Anyone else think there's a chance this isn't Talia, but Sasha Bordeaux?

[BatFan88]

Inception Featuring Christian Bale and Anne Hathaway. :awesome:

Anne is totally the new kid on the block. Everyone knows each other already except her!



Thats good.Because she will be the one that gives the best performance of all i think and thats something much people wont think of her to do.

[Miranda Fox]

Hope that there will be an announcement later - maybe we'll finally have an answer to who JGL is. :D

[J.Howlett]

How's this sound:

Essentially, Hathaway's Catwoman is taking the place of Scarcrow and Rachel from Begins as a both the wild card of the film and the love interest.

If Marion is indeed playing Talia, then she's obviously playing the puppet master of the entire film (taking Ra's place from Begins) with Hardy's Bane as the public figure/physical and intellectual opponent to Batman. Talia's also the mind behind the mob as well (JGL as Alberto Falcone?)

[MiniBond]

Inception Featuring Christian Bale and Anne Hathaway. :awesome:

Anne is totally the new kid on the block. Everyone knows each other already except her!



bale would be a newbie with the dudes who worked on inception (hardy, JGL, cotillard ):woot::woot:

[Mako]

So exciting.

[batman11]

Man, remember when Inception was Batman Begins 2.0? With Caine, Murphy, Watanabe, and Nolan as director? Fun times. If Nolan brings Murphy back and wrangles up more Inception folk, TDKR will be forever remembered as Batman Begins 3.0 / The Dark Knight 2.43 / Inception 2.0 / The Prestige 1.33.

Awesome. :up: :woot:

[phantasmata]

latino review just tweeted that he's going to break a huge scoop today.

[kvz5]

bale would be a newbie with the dudes who worked on inception (hardy, JGL, cotillard ):woot::woot:

Nah, Bale knows Marion already (Public Enemies). TDKR is like the love child of the Batman (Bale, Oldman, Caine, Freeman) and Inception cast (Hardy, JGL, Cotillard, Caine).

Anyway, any chance that it's not Talia? Watts and Winslet doesn't scream Talia to me. It works for Cottilard and Weisz though.

I do like the "chemistry" between Bale and Cottilard from the very little scene that they had in PE.


latino review just tweeted that he's going to break a huge scoop today.

I hope it's about this!

[J.Howlett]

Think about July 2012, people. The cast of the Avengers and the cast of Rises.

It's insanity, I tell you.

[Miranda Fox]

Eh, LR have been pretty rubbish recently.

If Marion is indeed playing Talia, then she's obviously playing the puppet master of the entire film (taking Ra's place from Begins) with Hardy's Bane as the public figure/physical and intellectual opponent to Batman. Talia's also the mind behind the mob as well (JGL as Alberto Falcone?)

That would be amazing. :up:

[Arta]

Man, remember when Inception was Batman Begins 2.0? With Caine, Murphy, Watanabe, and Nolan as director? Fun times. If Nolan brings Murphy back and wrangles up more Inception folk, TDKR will be forever remembered as Batman Begins 3.0 / The Dark Knight 2.43 / Inception 2.0 / The Prestige 1.33.

Awesome. :up: :woot:
It's like everyone's gathering for the culmination of his life's work.

[MiniBond]

Nah, Bale knows Marion already (Public Enemies).


I hope it's about this!

damn yes I forgot about that :doh:(see how that movie struck me :woot:)

[The Chris]

Nah, Bale knows Marion already (Public Enemies). TDKR is like the love child of the Batman (Bale, Oldman, Caine, Freeman) and Inception cast (Hardy, JGL, Cotillard, Caine).

Anyway, any chance that it's not Talia? Watts and Winslet doesn't scream Talia to me. It works for Cottilard and Weisz though.

I do like the "chemistry" between Bale and Cottilard from the very little scene that they had in PE.




I hope it's about this!

Dude you're so right. I forgot about Public Enemies for a second there. That little scene where he carries her to the bathroom was great.

[FlawlessVictory]

latino review just tweeted that he's going to break a huge scoop today.

Did he say it was specifically Batman related? You have a link to his tweet?

[kvz5]

Dude you're so right. I forgot about Public Enemies for a second there. That little scene where he carries her to the bathroom was great.

Yup. That was one of my favorite scenes in the movie.

[kvz5]

Did he say it was specifically Batman related? You have a link to his tweet?

He didn't say specifically.

www.twitter.com/elmayimbe (http://www.twitter.com/elmayimbe)

[phantasmata]

Did he say it was specifically Batman related? You have a link to his tweet?

nah, he didn't say it was batman related. he never really gives hints when he teases these scoops. but here's the link:

http://twitter.com/#!/elmayimbe/status/37171472824803328

[FlawlessVictory]

He didn't say specifically.

www.twitter.com/elmayimbe (http://www.twitter.com/elmayimbe)

Thanks. Yea, he could be referring to so many things. I don't even think it is Batman related, what else is there to break? That Leo or Paige has now been cast? We have the major cast pretty much round out. We know Cotillard is in discussions so it will either be her or Watts, Weisz or Winslet. But LR wouldn't be breaking anything there.

Maybe/hopefully it's Superman related.

[MiniBond]

be about batman plz :awesome::awesome:

[Caped Crusader]

I tweeted him back saying if it's not TDKR it's not huge. ;)

[Caped Crusader]

Thanks. Yea, he could be referring to so many things. I don't even think it is Batman related, what else is there to break? That Leo or Paige has now been cast? We have the major cast pretty much round out. We know Cotillard is in discussions so it will either be her or Watts, Weisz or Winslet. But LR wouldn't be breaking anything there.

Maybe/hopefully it's Superman related.

Possibly JGL's or Marion's role

[phantasmata]

Thanks. Yea, he could be referring to so many things. I don't even think it is Batman related, what else is there to break? That Leo or Paige has now been cast? We have the major cast pretty much round out. We know Cotillard is in discussions so it will either be her or Watts, Weisz or Winslet. But LR wouldn't be breaking anything there.

Maybe/hopefully it's Superman related.

he could break who she's playing. everyone is just assuming it's going to be talia but none of us have any sort of evidence that the character is going to be in the movie.

[FlawlessVictory]

he could break who she's playing. everyone is just assuming it's going to be talia but none of us have any sort of evidence that the character is going to be in the movie.

It's not like it is an assumption based purely on speculation and theories. The trades are reporting that is who the character is. Sure, the trades aren't perfect but highly likely that this is the case.

[FlawlessVictory]

Possibly JGL's or Marion's role

That's fair.

[phantasmata]

oh, for ****'s sake, it was some crap about abe lincoln: vampire hunter.

i'm unfollowing this guy! (just kidding.)

[MiniBond]

oh, for ****'s sake, it was some crap about abe lincoln: vampire hunter.

i'm unfollowing this guy! (just kidding.)


http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2000_American_Psycho/christian_bale_american_psycho_001.jpg

JESUUUUUUS !!!!!!!:cmad::funny::facepalm:

[kvz5]

Well, Deadline did say that we'll get "some clarity today" so it looks like we'll find out soon enough. Maybe they tried to confirm with WB and were told that a press release will be issued today? Seems to me that they're just tying up the loose ends with Cottilard's camp.

[Miranda Fox]

Well, Deadline did say that we'll get "some clarity today" so it looks like we'll find out soon enough. Maybe they tried to confirm with WB and were told that a press release will be issued today? Seems to me that they're just tying up the loose ends with Cottilard's camp.

That's how I read it.

[dark_b]

i find it hard to belive that Cottilard is the only choice on this planet to play this role. she will have a baby. end of story. cast someone else.

looks like Nolan is one of the best directors who knows how to get the best performance out of the actors.. because there is no way that the actors from hes previous movie are the best he could find for TDK2.

[Mako]

Well, Deadline did say that we'll get "some clarity today" so it looks like we'll find out soon enough. Maybe they tried to confirm with WB and were told that a press release will be issued today? Seems to me that they're just tying up the loose ends with Cottilard's camp.
Hope so :yay:

[BigEggo]

No jokes Anne is better then Marion.

no mate,just no.have you seen alice in wonderland? she was cringeworthy.her only notable performances were havoc and rachel getting married. cotillard is definitely better,her performances in la vie en rose and inception were perfect.

[BatFan88]

no mate,just no.have you seen alice in wonderland? she was cringeworthy.her only notable performances were havoc and rachel getting married. cotillard is definitely better,her performances in la vie en rose and inception were perfect.

in inception was awfull really:doh:

[kvz5]

i find it hard to belive that Cottilard is the only choice on this planet to play this role. she will have a baby. end of story. cast someone else.

looks like Nolan is one of the best directors who knows how to get the best performance out of the actors.. because there is no way that the actors from hes previous movie are the best he could find for TDK2.

If THR is to be believed (which I'm inclined to do so), it does look like he talked and read with other actresses - Rachel Weisz, Naomi Watts and Kate Winslet. Why Cottilard beat out the other 3 (assuming she already got the part) despite having pregnancy scheduling issues, we'll never really know. It might have something to do with the nature of the role or the other 3 might also have scheduling conflicts or Nolan just likes working with actresses he has worked with already. Who knows...

[Octoberist]

in inception was awfull really:doh:

So your rebuttal is to say something outlandish? Then you insert the face palm emoticon AS IF it's common knowledge and universally accepted by the public lexicon? You my friend is batpoop crrraazzyy.

I like both Marion and Anne and they are so different that you cannot comate the two. Also Marion has an Oscar :p

[Scorcher7]

in inception was awfull really:doh:

Do you really know what an awful performance is? Go watch Natalie Portman in the Star Wars prequels, then go watch Cotillard in Inception. Tell us which one was truly awful. Maybe you didn't like her in Inception but her performance was far from bad. Very very very far.

[J.Howlett]

Leave my Natalie alone....

[Gianakin_]

Leave my Natalie alone....

Yeah, I was about to say... what do you mean "MY" Natalie?:cmad:

[J.Howlett]

Hey, she's my muse...I can get very protective.

[hatebox]

Wow, lot of newbies here all of a sudden...

[Miranda Fox]

I like both Marion and Anne and they are so different that you cannot comate the two. Also Marion has an Oscar :p

:up:

[raybia]

i find it hard to belive that Cottilard is the only choice on this planet to play this role. she will have a baby. end of story. cast someone else.

looks like Nolan is one of the best directors who knows how to get the best performance out of the actors.. because there is no way that the actors from hes previous movie are the best he could find for TDK2.

Many directors like working with specific actors and actresses for various reasons one being they find them to be very talented and second because they are a joy to work with. Nolan is one of those actors who likes working with the same actors on various movies. Scorese, Coppola, Hitchcock, and the great Orson Wells are a few other examples.

[Gianakin_]

Hey, she's my muse...I can get very protective.

Fine, I have Blanchett as my muse anyway.:woot:

[raybia]

Do you really know what an awful performance is? Go watch Natalie Portman in the Star Wars prequels, then go watch Cotillard in Inception. Tell us which one was truly awful. Maybe you didn't like her in Inception but her performance was far from bad. Very very very far.

To be fair, Lucas does a fantastic job suppresing the acting ability of many talented actors and actresses.

[Gianakin_]

Grrr, with the Lucas hate. Nobody complains about McDiarmid, McGregor or Neeson.

[J.Howlett]

Thank you, Gianakin....

[Boom]

I interpreted Deadline's comment as them checking with WB today regarding the legitimacy of this rumor.

I didn't get the impression that a press release would be issued today.

[Scorcher7]

Didn't mean to start a Star Wars debate. But lets be real, NP's performance is not very good. Blame who you will. And I can say that because she's my Natalie, not anyone elses. :cwink:

[Gianakin_]

She was fine. Just underused in RotS (which was expected).

[General Vulcun]

Nice to see this is close to being confirmed. :yay:

[raybia]

Grrr, with the Lucas hate. Nobody complains about McDiarmid, McGregor or Neeson.

I've heard mixed reaction about both McGregor and Neeson but there are always exception. But I don't think I'm hating on Lucas. That is a valid criticism. I love Lucas in certain capacities. He is not known as an actor's director. In fact he is a much better producer than director.

[raybia]

Didn't mean to start a Star Wars debate. But lets be real, NP's performance is not very good. Blame who you will. And I can say that because she's my Natalie, not anyone elses. :cwink:

You are right, her performance was not very good. Samuel L. Jackson's performance was not very good either.

[Blackman]

Jeez shes in this now too? Huh good for her

[iamcitizen]

You are right, her performance was not very good. Samuel L. Jackson's performance was not very good either.

Bad directors tend to get bad performances out of even talented actors.

[Gianakin_]

Lucas a bad director. Oh, the new generation...

[Colonel Kurtz]

Well with this news, everything is pointing to Bane entering the League of Assassins with Talia al Ghul in control. The only unknown is JGL at this point. But Cottilard is in talks for Talia, no doubt in my mind.

[the amazing fro]

Grrr, with the Lucas hate. Nobody complains about McDiarmid, McGregor or Neeson.

Mcdiarmid is so hammy that its brilliant. Mcgregor is hit and miss. He always is trying to imitate Guinness which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.

I really liked Neeson as Qui Gon he brought a certain amount of gravitas and pathos to, lets face it, a not very fleshed out role.

Natalie was quite poor across the films (though she it hot so I'm not too fussed :oldrazz:).

However none of them are anywhere near bad as the abomination that is Hayden Christensen's performance as anakin. Fully deserved his two razzies.

P.s I'm not hating I actually like the prequels.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Mcdiarmid is so hammy that its brilliant. Mcgregor is hit and miss. He always is trying to imitate Guinness which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.

I really liked Neeson as Qui Gon he brought a certain amount of gravitas and pathos to, lets face it, a not very fleshed out role.

Natalie was quite poor across the films (though she it hot so I'm not too fussed :oldrazz:).

However none of them are anywhere near bad as the abomination that is Hayden Christensen's performance as anakin. Fully deserved his two razzies.

P.s I'm not hating I actually like the prequels.

You're in the wrong thread. Lets all speculate about Talia instead, shall we? :awesome:

[raybia]

Lucas a bad director. Oh, the new generation...


I like Lucas but he really isn't a very good director. I'm not sure what happened as he had alot of inital success and promise with films such as American Graffiti and the first Star Wars. I think his interest changed over the years and there is nothing wrong with that but he should have had someone else director the prequels like he did with ESB and ROTJ.

By the way I am of the old generation. Younger that Tom Cruise but older than Will Smith.

[Gianakin_]

Mcgregor is hit and miss. He always is trying to imitate Guinness which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.

I really disagree with this. There were moments where he imitated him, but he very much made the part his own.

[Boom]

Marion Cotillard is obviously playing one of Hugo Strange's mannequins.

Hugo Strange, of course, will be played by Robin Williams.

:awesome:

[raybia]

You're in the wrong thread. Lets all speculate about Talia instead, shall we? :awesome:

Incorrect. Lets speculate about whether Marion will actually be in this movie and what character she'll play. :cwink:

[Colonel Kurtz]

Since it is Valentines Day, I think it would be great if WB decided to confirm Cottilard as Talia.

[Gianakin_]

I like Lucas but he really isn't a very good director. I'm not sure what happened as he had alot of inital success and promise with films such as American Graffiti and the first Star Wars. I think his interest changed over the years and there is nothing wrong with that but he should have had someone else director the prequels like he did with ESB and ROTJ.

By the way I am of the old generation. Younger that Tom Cruise but older than Will Smith.

Well, suffice it say I completely disagree. I think his work is brilliant and especially the Prequels, and that stems from the fact that he directed them himself. You can't have a Kershner incident every time (even he made some flops after ESB).

[Colonel Kurtz]

Well, suffice it say I completely disagree. I think his work is brilliant and especially the Prequels, and that stems from the fact that he directed them himself. You can't have a Kershner incident every time (even he made some flops after ESB).

Perhaps if I asked you nicely, could we PLEASE get back on topic? Thanks. :woot:

[the amazing fro]

I really disagree with this. There were moments where he imitated him, but he very much made the part his own.

Perhaps ALWAYS was an overstatement. But his voice at times does sound like he is trying really hard to be like Alec guinness.

But anyway Marion Cotillard :oldrazz:

Now she is pretty much confirmed I can really see no other role for her than Talia. Which bites IMO. :csad:

[Colonel Kurtz]

Talia and Bane versus Catwoman and Batman, like I said before, the unknown is JGL.

[Gianakin_]

Perhaps if I asked you nicely, could we PLEASE get back on topic? Thanks. :woot:

I get really defensive with Lucas and SW. I can't make any promises. Besides some OT talk to a healthy degree never hurt anyone.

[Colonel Kurtz]

I get really defensive with Lucas and SW. I can't make any promises. Besides some OT talk to a healthy degree never hurt anyone.

As much as I love Star Wars, and how much time and money I have given GL over the years, this isn't the place for it. This is the thread your looking for:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=347034
Go to it and perhaps you can shed some light on my theory of ANH CG Jabba actually being Rotta "Stinky Punky Muffin."

So back on topic. If she is in the film, I'm sensing villain overload.

[WonderWitch]

i am so excited for this to be confirmed! i really thought talia and bane would be in this movie, even before tom hardy was cast it made sense in my head. so when we got the confirmation about bane and catwoman and the talia rumors died down i was a bit surprised, because to me talia and bane tie in together really well. so if marion is confirmed as being involved and for talia i will be over the moon and commence gloating to my friends. however i am really interested how two female leads will be handled, especially two possibly competing female leads. hopefully they will make up for rachel dawes, especially the maggie gylenhaal version (talk about no chemistry, with both bale & ekhart).

[Dark Knight]

Yeahhhhh! :wow:

Somehow casting a currently pregnant Cotillard who was a fan favorite to be Catwoman or Talia is a major coup! She will be able to film after giving birth about 2 months later. She will look just fine for the role, otherwise she wouldn't do it.

Only Chris Nolan would be able to pull this off with this great of a cast for his final Bat film!

Now all we need is official confirmation of Robin Williams as Dr Hugo Strange and this puppy will be ready to kick all kinds of ass....even though it already will more than likely. :batty:

To all those whining and worrying about "too many characters" being used in this TDKRises.....calm down.

This isn't Spidey 3 and Nolan is not Sam Raimi, and Avi Arad is not the producer for these Bat films.....THANK GOD! Lol! :word:

[hatebox]

On paper, having both Talia and Catwoman in TDKR is not something I can be excited about. For the first time ever I feel like I have to say those excrucatingly annoying 2 words: 'Trust Nolan'.

[Boom]

On paper, having both Talia and Catwoman in TDKR is not something I can be excited about. For the first time ever I feel like I have to say those excrucatingly annoying 2 words: 'Trust Nolan'.
I agree. I don't really care much for Talia.

I'm hoping Bane can pick up the slack.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Perhaps this is why we saw Liam Neeson stating he had no role in TDKR, because Talia makes an appearance. I really don't see any other options. Although a character like Julie Madison could potentially be cast. It would be great if Nolan pulled a Ducard trick on us and had Julie Madison reveal herself as Talia.

[Rocketman]

Maybe Anne Hathaway is Selina Kyle, and Marion Cotillard is Catwoman. :word:

[Robin91939]

I'm all for her casting, she's a terrific actress. However, I'm not sure how much I want Talia in the film without Ra's Al Ghul. That's almost like having Harley Quinn without the Joker. Talia's been a solo villainess more often, so it's not quite as bad--but still I feel Ra's can be in a film without his daughter, but not vise versa...hoping to be proven wrong. However, it's just another AMAZING casting addition to this series. It's truly amazing the amount of talent that has gone in front of the camera in this series.

Tom Wilkinson- 2 Oscar Nominations
Ken Wanatabe- 1 Oscar Nomination
Liam Neeson- 1 Oscar Nomination
Eric Roberts- 1 Oscar Nomination
Anne Hathaway- 1 Oscar Nomination
Maggie Gyllenhaal- 1 Oscar Nomination
Michael Caine- 6 Oscar Nominations, 2 Wins
Morgan Freeman- 5 Oscar Nominations, 1 Win
Heath Ledger- 2 Oscar Nomination, 1 Win
Marion Cotillard- 1 Osar Nomination, 1 Win
Christian Bale- 1 Oscar Nomination.....Win pending.

That's 22 Acting Nominations for the cast of Nolan's Batman Trilogy (if I missed any, let me know) and 5 (a 6th is a real possibility for Bale in the next weeks) wins for the cast....for a COMIC BOOK film franchise...just awesome...happy to see it continue with this casting.

-R

[Rocketman]

On paper, having both Talia and Catwoman in TDKR is not something I can be excited about. For the first time ever I feel like I have to say those excrucatingly annoying 2 words: 'Trust Nolan'.

I really hope this movie doesn't suck, lol. That's how I feel.

[Xtroid]

If she is in the film, I'm sensing villain overload.

Female Riddler. :awesome:

[Dark Knight]

If THR is to be believed (which I'm inclined to do so), it does look like he talked and read with other actresses - Rachel Weisz, Naomi Watts and Kate Winslet. Why Cottilard beat out the other 3 (assuming she already got the part) despite having pregnancy scheduling issues, we'll never really know. It might have something to do with the nature of the role or the other 3 might also have scheduling conflicts or Nolan just likes working with actresses he has worked with already. Who knows...


I think Nolan and Emma have wanted Marion to be in this film from the beginning. Remember those earlier reports of Marion having a choice between Selina and Talia allegedly about 5-6 months ago and that she had to say no due to scheduling conflicts?

Well the pregnancy turned that upside down, so she had to drop out of two other films. Then we know the TDKRises shoot will be a long one, so maybe she spoke with her baby daddy and with Nolan and Emma and said she can play Talia....just as long she doesn't have to start shooting at least 2 months after the baby is born?

If this happens....this shows that Ms Cotillard is a trooper and this makes her even more hot than she already is!

The 2nd choice behind Marion should be Rachel Weisz IMO.

[Rocketman]

I'm all for her casting, she's a terrific actress. However, I'm not sure how much I want Talia in the film without Ra's Al Ghul. That's almost like having Harley Quinn without the Joker. Talia's been a solo villainess more often, so it's not quite as bad--but still I feel Ra's can be in a film without his daughter, but not vise versa...hoping to be proven wrong. However, it's just another AMAZING casting addition to this series. It's truly amazing the amount of talent that has gone in front of the camera in this series.

Tom Wilkinson- 2 Oscar Nominations
Ken Wanatabe- 1 Oscar Nomination
Liam Neeson- 1 Oscar Nomination
Eric Roberts- 1 Oscar Nomination
Anne Hathaway- 1 Oscar Nomination
Maggie Gyllenhaal- 1 Oscar Nomination
Michael Caine- 6 Oscar Nominations, 2 Wins
Morgan Freeman- 5 Oscar Nominations, 1 Win
Heath Ledger- 2 Oscar Nomination, 1 Win
Marion Cotillard- 1 Osar Nomination, 1 Win
Christian Bale- 1 Oscar Nomination.....Win pending.

That's 22 Acting Nominations for the cast of Nolan's Batman Trilogy (if I missed any, let me know) and 5 (a 6th is a real possibility for Bale in the next weeks) wins for the cast....for a COMIC BOOK film franchise...just awesome...happy to see it continue with this casting.

-R

How f'ed up is it that Gary Oldman hasn't even been nominated for anything?

[Boom]

How f'ed up is it that Gary Oldman hasn't even been nominated for anything?
It's a crime against humanity.

[WonderWitch]

On paper, having both Talia and Catwoman in TDKR is not something I can be excited about. For the first time ever I feel like I have to say those excrucatingly annoying 2 words: 'Trust Nolan'.

totally,see if it was anyone other than nolan i would be really, really scared. in fact for awhile i was thinking it could only be either catwoman or talia, not both, because that would be too much for one movie. But i also have become one of the meek "in nolan we trust" people, because really, otherwise it would not be good for my health.

[raybia]

Well, suffice it say I completely disagree. I think his work is brilliant and especially the Prequels, and that stems from the fact that he directed them himself. You can't have a Kershner incident every time (even he made some flops after ESB).

It has nothing to do with Kershner because the original Star Wars directed by Lucas was his masterpiece and is listed as one of the 100 greatest movies ever made. But after SW, Lucas didn't direct another movie until 22 years later with the Phantom menace.

So there are two George Lucas's that we are talking about. The one before SW and the one after SW. The one before only directed 2 full length releases. If you are saying this Lucas's work is brilliant I would agree.

However, to say that his direction of the prequels is brilliant is very subjective and unfounded. Its extremely hard to believe that the same man who directed SW also directed the prequels.

I think the 22 year gap really prevent him from realizing his potential as a director but I doubt he has any regrets because I think his interest was beyond that.

[J.Howlett]

Wait...what? Gary Oldman's never been nominated? That's a joke right?!

[Gianakin_]

However, to say that his direction of the prequels is brilliant is very subjective and unfounded. Its extremely hard to believe that the same man who directed SW also directed the prequels.

Subjective, of course, like every single thing in art (that's why I said "I think his work is brilliant"), but to call it unfounded kinda negates your "subjective" comment. It's like saying that I have my opinion but it's wrong.

[Colonel Kurtz]

It has nothing to do with Kershner because the original Star Wars directed by Lucas was his masterpiece and is listed as one of the 100 greatest movies ever made. But after SW, Lucas didn't direct another movie until 22 years later with the Phantom menace.

So there are two George Lucas's that we are talking about. The one before SW and the one after SW. The one before only directed 2 full length releases. If you are saying this Lucas's work is brilliant I would agree.

However, to say that his direction of the prequels is brilliant is very subjective and unfounded. Its extremely hard to believe that the same man who directed SW also directed the prequels.

I think the 22 year gap really prevent him from realizing his potential as a director but I doubt he has any regrets because I think his interest was beyond that.

If you missed it:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=347034

[Dark Knight]

The Empire Strikes Back owns Star Wars.

Empire was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar Nomination back in the day.

[Gianakin_]

The Empire Strikes Back owns Star Wars.

Empire was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar Nomination back in the day.

Agreed.

[Colonel Kurtz]

The Empire Strikes Back owns Star Wars.

Empire was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar Nomination back in the day.

:facepalm: There's no point in trying anymore.

[lililatigresse]

I agree. I don't really care much for Talia.

I'm hoping Bane can pick up the slack.

I don't care for Catwoman at all (especially a catwoman played by Hathaway), but Nolan can't please everyone.

[raybia]

Subjective, of course, like every single thing in art (that's why I said "I think his work is brilliant"), but to call it unfounded kinda negates your "subjective" comment. It's like saying that I have my opinion but it's wrong.

No offense. I put it that way to say that there is sufficient evidence to support that his direction of the prequels was not good whereas I think a person would be hard pressed to find credible evidence supporting the opinion that his work on the prequels were brilliant.

With that said, I love Star Wars and I grew up on the original trilogy. Maybe my expectations and those of my generation was so great for the prequels that there was no way it could have been met but regardless I feel there were many missed opportunities. Oh well. I agree to disagree with you. :yay:

Now back on topic! :woot:

[Dark Knight]

but Nolan can't please everyone.


^^
Remember this fanboys....

[Gianakin_]

^^
Remember this fanboys....

Oh, this phrase will come in handy in a short time, methinks.

[raybia]

:facepalm: There's no point in trying anymore.

Don't worry, this thread isn't going to derail because of a little off topic discussion which is normal with a lack of new information.

[dark_b]

i hope Cottilard will have a small role. with the amount of money she has why not be home with your new baby? why not enjoy the freedom ?

[Miranda Fox]

Wait...what? Gary Oldman's never been nominated? That's a joke right?!

Sadly no, it isn't.

[raybia]

The Empire Strikes Back owns Star Wars.

Empire was snubbed for a Best Picture Oscar Nomination back in the day.

One of greatest films ever made and a sci-fi classic. Even better that the rightly acclaimed Blade Runner.

[ChrisB]

i hope Cottilard will have a small role. with the amount of money she has why not be home with your new baby? why not enjoy the freedom ?

Doesn't sound like a small role though. They need her all summer in London, Los Angeles, and Pittsburgh...then she has to go to New York to finish up in November.

[raybia]

Sadly no, it isn't.

What movie do you think he should have been nominated far. The Professional comes to mind for me.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Ok, so lets say at 5:00 WB issues a press statement confirming Cottilard. I can see her playing only a few roles.

#1: Obviously Talia
#2: Julie Madison or someone comparable
#3: Sofia Falcone

[raybia]

Ok, so lets say at 5:00 WB issues a press statement confirming Cottilard. I can see her playing only a few roles.

#1: Obviously Talia
#2: Julie Madison or someone comparable
#3: Sofia Falcone

#3 I think is the most likely.

[Gianakin_]

Wasn't Sofia ugly enough to pass for a transvestite? If MArion is Sofia, then Nolan will have given us an ugly Flass and a gorgeous Sofia. Heh.

[MiniBond]

what about a simple but nice love interest à la Silver saint cloud (with more flesh due to the script's quality)???

[dark_b]

i am shocked and disgusted how many fans are more thinking about a movie then about a baby and mother. money is not everything

whats more important?

[Octoberist]

Well, suffice it say I completely disagree. I think his work is brilliant and especially the Prequels, and that stems from the fact that he directed them himself. You can't have a Kershner incident every time (even he made some flops after ESB).

Thus will be one of the few times we will disagree, my friend. While I love A New Hope and American Grafitti, I'm not a fan of the prequels. At least I would call Lucas' later work 'genius'; I thought he was creatively lazy (It's always hard work to make a film buy you have to have the passion to make it work.)

[Dark Knight]

Ok, so lets say at 5:00 WB issues a press statement confirming Cottilard. I can see her playing only a few roles.

#1: Obviously Talia
#2: Julie Madison or someone comparable
#3: Sofia Falcone


Perhaps Lady Shiva as well?

[Fenrir]

#3 I think is the most likely.

To think that a gorgeous French dame like Marion is going to play the role of an ugly, manly-looking Italian woman...:lmao:

[Mastodon123]

Doesn't sound like a small role though. They need her all summer in London, Los Angeles, and Pittsburgh...then she has to go to New York to finish up in November.

What happened to Michigan and Romania?

[Gianakin_]

Thus will be one of the few times we will disagree, my friend. While I love A New Hope and American Grafitti, I'm not a fan of the prequels. At least I would call Lucas' later work 'genius'; I thought he was creatively lazy (It's always hard work to make a film buy you have to have the passion to make it work.)

Fair enough.

[Miranda Fox]

i am shocked and disgusted how many fans are more thinking about a movie then about a baby and mother. money is not everything

whats more important?

What right have you got to be speaking on behalf of Marion? And honestly, I think she should do what she thinks is best. If she is okay with doing a movie then it is nobody's place to judge.

[FlawlessVictory]

i am shocked and disgusted how many fans are more thinking about a movie then about a baby and mother. money is not everything

whats more important?

Woah, it's not like anyone here is making the decision for her. Are you going to get mad at the posters here because Cotillard accepted the role? As if everyone collectively threatened her to take it or else? :huh:

[Doctor Who]

It's a crime against humanity.

Yes it is! The guy was brilliant as Stansfield, Ivan Korshunov, Sid Vicious, Dracula, and not to mentioned my nerdy favorites Commissioner Gordon and Sirius Black. The first three at least should have gotten some Oscar mention!!!!!!!

That's the Academy for you though; dumb morons took nearly 20 years to recognize Scorsese for Departed, and just kind of forgot about everything in between that and Taxi Driver. :whatever:

Okay, I'm done with my movie rant; I'm surprised to hear Marion is in actual discussion for a role. Rumors are true, my bets go to either Porter, Sofia Falcone, Julie Madison, or somebody new in Nolan's vision like Dawes.

[raybia]

i am shocked and disgusted how many fans are more thinking about a movie then about a baby and mother. money is not everything

whats more important?

Only if it was my mother and baby...uh wait? :huh:

[raybia]

To think that a gorgeous French dame like Marion is going to play the role of an ugly, manly-looking Italian woman...:lmao:

Everybody was drawn ugly in that book. :huh: