Spider-Man Reboot Costume, OMG The Shoes Are SILVER! - Part 3

[LegendaryCaleb]

All this crying over the shoes is HILARIOUS!
It's shoes...It won't be seen much anyway

[Mercurius]

I hope the rest of it won't be seen much too.

[chaseter]

Guys...they really are using shoes! Asic shoes. RUNNING shoes

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/9723/222%20copy.jpg

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How cheap.

[roach]

at least they could have gotten Nike or Reebok

[Doctor Jones]

I think Kim Kardashian should endorse the shoes. Then she can tweet about it. Then Peter will tweet back demanding where she got the shoes, then this turns into a Seinfeld episode.

[Spider-Fan83]

if they we're just going to get him a pair of shoes to wear, they should of went with these.... lol
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/599/spideyshoes.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/spideyshoes.jpg/)
http://www.onlineshoes.com/mens-asics-dan-gable-ultimate-2-black-silver-red-p_id150181

[roach]

if they we're just going to get him a pair of shoes to wear, they should of went with these.... lol

http://www.onlineshoes.com/mens-asics-dan-gable-ultimate-2-black-silver-red-p_id150181

hell no..the webbing is raised...we all know that raised webbing is an epic fail on Spider-man

[Mercurius]

I think Kim Kardashian should endorse the shoes. Then she can tweet about it. Then Peter will tweet back demanding where she got the shoes, then this turns into a Seinfeld episode.

Yep, and Kardashian reveals she got them with a nice, short, stocky, bald chap, George Costanza.

[Spider-Boy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How cheap.

As opposed to this?

http://www.propcollector.com/propcollector/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/smboot1.jpg

A teenager making a costume, logically, would want something more than the classic "slipper" of a boot. If you got bit by a Spider would you run around without any ankle support?

[bunk]

Peter would most likely use something he's familiar with, so sneakers make sense. I don't know why the sneakers wouldn't be disguised more, unless we are meant to know they are sneakers. It's either on purpose, or the costume designer is just lazy. I never understood how his powers worked through the material to begin with, whether shoes or booties.

[Spider-ManHero12]

As opposed to this?

http://www.propcollector.com/propcollector/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/smboot1.jpg

A teenager making a costume, logically, would want something more than the classic "slipper" of a boot. If you got bit by a Spider would you run around without any ankle support? Are you actually comparing the 2? It's obvious which one looks better.

Anyway, I'll be ignoring the shoes, tbh. Everything else looks pretty cool.

[socool]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How cheap.

Cheap? I think not. It it was the full shoe, then that's cheap. But he used the money to mesh it into the boots. That's money...and skill.

I think they're trying to be realistic with the costume.

-Surfer suit that is colored with carved in webbing
-Gloves with extra fabric to cover the fingers
-Shoes covered in material for "arch support"

I like the idea but the execution could have been a little better...

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ It may come off better on film. Well, I hope it does.

[roach]

As opposed to this?

http://www.propcollector.com/propcollector/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/smboot1.jpg

A teenager making a costume, logically, would want something more than the classic "slipper" of a boot. If you got bit by a Spider would you run around without any ankle support?

exactly because I dont know how many times I've read a Spider-man comic and seen him twist an ankle

[roach]

Cheap? I think not. It it was the full shoe, then that's cheap. But he used the money to mesh it into the boots. That's money...and skill.

I think they're trying to be realistic with the costume.

-Surfer suit that is colored with carved in webbing
-Gloves with extra fabric to cover the fingers
-Shoes covered in material for "arch support"

I like the idea but the execution could have been a little better...

Realism isnt something i look for in a Spider-man movie....is Superman gonna get an athletic cup now?

[WalkingDeadMike]

I don't get all of the hate people have for the costume. I think it looks better than Raimi's.

[socool]

Realism isnt something i look for in a Spider-man movie....is Superman gonna get an athletic cup now?

If he wasn't an alien, I would say he should. But he has balls of steel, no need.

[roach]

yet we have someone with an enhanced physicality to enable him to lift up to 10 tons, leap several feet into the air and stick to walls and he needs a sneaker to keep his arch support?

[Spider-ManHero12]

I don't get all of the hate people have for the costume. I think it looks better than Raimi's. I think it's really cool and alot of other people don't as well. However, to say that is surpasses Raimi's really is just......odd, IMO. I mean, it's obvious which one is more faithful, which is why Raimi's will always be my favorite suit out of the 2. It's all a matter of opinion though.

[socool]

yet we have someone with an enhanced physicality to enable him to lift up to 10 tons, leap several feet into the air and stick to walls and he needs a sneaker to keep his arch support?

I never said it made sense haha! But in this day-and-age where TDK rules all with it's realistic and gripping story/characters, you have to imagine studios will look to it for inspiration.

Zac Snyder admitted that they are changing Superman to fit a modern day world. Sony is doing the same with Spidey, mixing real-world clothing with his classic suit to make this suit.

Like I said, great idea, not as great presentation.

[roach]

its an ok suit but when I put the new suit next to the Raimi suit IMO the Raimi suit look s more like Spider-man to me.
I dont go for the whole realistic look or the how a kid could make a poor spider-man suit(yet someone people in the same breath cant see how he makes the suit yet he can make two web spinners and design a web fluid...impressive for a poor kid) though the costume in the comics doesnt really look like its made by a poor kid.

[WalkingDeadMike]

I think it's really cool and alot of other people don't as well. However, to say that is surpasses Raimi's really is just......odd, IMO. I mean, it's obvious which one is more faithful, which is why Raimi's will always be my favorite suit out of the 2. It's all a matter of opinion though.

I just didn't like the raised/grey webbing on Raimi's. This new costume fixed that and has more of Ben Reilly costume feel to it, and I've always been partial to that one.

[socool]

its an ok suit but when I put the new suit next to the Raimi suit IMO the Raimi suit look s more like Spider-man to me.
I dont go for the whole realistic look or the how a kid could make a poor spider-man suit(yet someone people in the same breath cant see how he makes the suit yet he can make two web spinners and design a web fluid...impressive for a poor kid) though the costume in the comics doesnt really look like its made by a poor kid.

Well, there really isn't any way to make the webbing realistic. I mean, there isn't any way to make any of his powers realistic. But web-shooters is the closest they could get.

Plus, a lot of fans wanted them and Sony can't mess this film up. If they mess it up, it does poor at the box office, Sony loses money. They lose the rights to Spider-Man if they don't make movies on a regular basis. At that rate they will just keep losing money if they don't try.

So it's a win, win for us really. We suffer through 2 or 3 bad movies just for the rights to go to a (hopefully better) studio or Sony actually makes 2 or 3 really good ones.

I'm remaining optimistic. :p

[Spider-ManHero12]

I just didn't like the raised/webbing on Raimi's. This new costume fixed that and has more of Ben Reilly costume feel to it, and I've always been partial to that one. I don't see how the raised webbing was a big deal, but to each his own. As for the new suit having a Ben Rielly feel, I disagree. I mean, there are some aspects there, but not alot. Ovarall, I don't see why the hell people would want to see that suit on film as the main Spider-Man suit. I'm a fan of Ben Reilly, but still.

[roach]

Well, there really isn't any way to make the webbing realistic. I mean, there isn't any way to make any of his powers realistic. But web-shooters is the closest they could get.

Plus, a lot of fans wanted them and Sony can't mess this film up. If they mess it up, it does poor at the box office, Sony loses money. They lose the rights to Spider-Man if they don't make movies on a regular basis. At that rate they will just keep losing money if they don't try.

So it's a win, win for us really. We suffer through 2 or 3 bad movies just for the rights to go to a (hopefully better) studio or Sony actually makes 2 or 3 really good ones.

I'm remaining optimistic. :p


I am waiting to see a trailer but I can honestly say the costume in my opinion is a disappointment

[roach]

I don't see how the raised webbing was a big deal, but to each his own. As for the new suit having a Ben Rielly feel, I disagree. I mean, there are some aspects there, but not alot. Ovarall, I don't see why the hell people would want to see that suit on film as the main Spider-Man suit. I'm a fan of Ben Reilly, but still.

raised webbing is a minor thing compared to this costume

[socool]

I am waiting to see a trailer but I can honestly say the costume in my opinion is a disappointment

Well, after Raimi's costume, where were we to go? The same suit with new colors?

[Spider-ManHero12]

yes, in terms of change, defenitely, roach. The new suit looks REALLY good in those 2 pictures of Garfield we got, so I'm happy that it's going to look that way on film. Raimi's version was adapted to fit the film universe, so I don't get why people say they changed things. Webbs was changed for the reboot and the sake of being different, which isn't necessarily a bad thing because it seems they meant to do it that way. overall, I think people have to start re-thinkin about their reasons for bashing Raimi's suit. It is THE suit.

However, as I've said in the past, in terms of being different, the new suit works really for what they seem to be going for, so I'm pleased.

[roach]

Well, after Raimi's costume, where were we to go? The same suit with new colors?

To be honest yes...Ditko's Spider-man looks different than Romita's...and MacFarlane's....and Larsen's......and Bagley's
the same design yet with different aspects to it would have been better....different eyes, different spider
All this suit does is remind me how perfect the Raimi suit is/was.

[WalkingDeadMike]

I don't see how the raised webbing was a big deal, but to each his own.

It just bugged me since day one.

As for the new suit having a Ben Rielly feel, I disagree. I mean, there are some aspects there, but not alot.

Well, I never said it was his exact costume, just there were some elements that gave it that feel.

Ovarall, I don't see why the hell people would want to see that suit on film as the main Spider-Man suit. I'm a fan of Ben Reilly, but still.

Like I said, I've personally always liked that costume. If they would've went with the traditional Spidey look, I would've been fine with that too.

[chaseter]

Cheap? I think not. It it was the full shoe, then that's cheap. But he used the money to mesh it into the boots. That's money...and skill.

I think they're trying to be realistic with the costume.

-Surfer suit that is colored with carved in webbing
-Gloves with extra fabric to cover the fingers
-Shoes covered in material for "arch support"

I like the idea but the execution could have been a little better...

It is cheap that they copied the exact, EXACT, design from a crappy tennis shoe.

Realism? A man is turning into a damn 8 foot tall lizard. Arch support? Really? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA x infinity. I can see it now. Boy I feel like I need some arch support, my feet ache.:doh: Hey, I need some extra fabric to cover my fingers so that I can stick to walls. Wait what? Hey, I like surfing and I like carving, this is a win/win.
:dry:

[socool]

It is cheap that they copied the exact, EXACT, design from a crappy tennis shoe.

Realism? A man is turning into a damn 8 foot tall lizard. Arch support? Really? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA x infinity. I can see it now. Boy I feel like I need some arch support, my feet ache.:doh: Hey, I need some extra fabric to cover my fingers so that I can stick to walls. Wait what? Hey, I like surfing and I like carving, this is a win/win.
:dry:

I never said it was all realistic nor did it make a lot of sense for them to put realism into it.

Plus, they aren't copying, they're using the shoe...

[craigaat]

I may really like the new suit (not as much as Raimi's, but it really is cool, IMO), but i'll be honest, this post of your is so idiotic that I really don't know what to say. It proves that you're just biased.

What exactly am I biased towards? They're both cool costumes, it's just you get people nitpicking at the smallest things.

Who cares if Spider-Man has silver on his shoes? It really doesn't matter.

[chaseter]

I never said it was all realistic nor did it make a lot of sense for them to put realism into it.

Plus, they aren't copying, they're using the shoe...

Because trying their hardest to make the costume realistic when he has spider powers makes complete sense.

[socool]

Because trying their hardest to make the costume realistic when he has spider powers makes complete sense.

I don't know why you arguing with me when I so totally just said that...

[Troy_Parker]

I don't know why you arguing with me when I so totally just said that...

I think your signature should answer that question. xD

[LegendaryCaleb]

Well his sig is pretty true....... :oldrazz:

[chaseter]

Cheap? I think not. It it was the full shoe, then that's cheap. But he used the money to mesh it into the boots. That's money...and skill.

I think they're trying to be realistic with the costume.

-Surfer suit that is colored with carved in webbing
-Gloves with extra fabric to cover the fingers
-Shoes covered in material for "arch support"

I like the idea but the execution could have been a little better...

I never said it was all realistic nor did it make a lot of sense for them to put realism into it.

Plus, they aren't copying, they're using the shoe...

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7692/drevilrightthumb.jpg

[Hurm...]

Lmfao! :D

[socool]

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7692/drevilrightthumb.jpg

I...don't get it. :dry:

[chaseter]

don't worry about it, guys...its just socool...

[socool]

don't worry about it, guys...its just socool...

I've already heard this joke before.

[Spider-Boy]

don't worry about it, guys...its just socool...

Copyright infringement.

[Lunar_Wolf]

http://www.**************.com/fansites/ComicSanctum/news/?a=30884

Little info about the costume and 3D.

[socool]

http://www.**************.com/fansites/ComicSanctum/news/?a=30884

Little info about the costume and 3D.

This was already posted.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Who cares if Spider-Man has silver on his shoes? It really doesn't matter. Spider-Man's webs being silver isn't a problem either.


Originally Posted by Lunar_Wolf http://forums.superherohype.com/drakon/skins/shhclassic/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19790333#post19790333)
http://www.**************.com/fansit.../news/?a=30884 (http://www.**************.com/fansites/ComicSanctum/news/?a=30884)

Little info about the costume and 3D It's already been posted, but I'm very pleased about this. :up:

[Vid Electricz]

Marvel has given us a hint at the plot basis for the upcoming film via the hub's "Comic Connections" section. The hub's list three comic connections. The books listed here are Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 1: Power & Responsibility which features the first 7 books of the Ultimate Spider-Man series, Essential Spider-Man Vol. 1 which compiles the first 21 books that Spider-Man was featured in, including Amazing Fantasy #15 and lastly Spider-Man: Brand New Day Vol. 1 which compiles the stories of the titular storyline.


WTF DID YOU JUST SAY?!? KEEP THAT **** OUT OF HERE!

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

Brand New Day isn't that bad. One More Day is the problem, everything since has just been trying to make the best of a bad situation. A lot of really good stuff has come around since OMD, but some people are missing out because they're still bitter about it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I completely agree. OMD was terrible, but BND up until now? Very good stories, IMO. Hell, awesome stories. The most recent issue of ASM is being called one of the best Spider-Man comic in recent years, and I agree. :up:

[bunk]

raised webbing is a minor thing compared to this costume

Not to me. The raised silver webbing on the old suit detracts just as much as the weird shoes and the missing belt on this new suit.

[spida-man]

nvm

[craigdbfan]

Now Dr. Scholls can advertise their product thanks to the track shoes.

Hey Spidey are you gellin?

Spidey: Like a felon!

[Milu]

:funny:

[El Payaso]

All this crying over the shoes is HILARIOUS!

I don't think the superhero suit looking cheap is a laughing matter. Those sneakers make the suit look actually crappy, not just ugly.

It's shoes...It won't be seen much anyway

We don't know but I can tell that, opposite to what Ed Wood used to think, details are important.

[Lunar_Wolf]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/Andrew-shooting-in-downtown-LA-February-4th-2011-andrew-garfield-19060557-1804-2560.jpg

[PSYLENTGuardian]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/Andrew-shooting-in-downtown-LA-February-4th-2011-andrew-garfield-19060557-1804-2560.jpg

The way the muscles stand out gives me that comic book vibe.

[Knight Rise]

the shoes seem fine, and it was clever of them to use that. Gives Peter more mobility when running rather than just cloth

[Vile]

The more I see it, the more I dig this suit!

[Immortalfire]

My god, I never even noticed the weblines were "raised" until so many on here kept pointing it out recently.

I find it weird that its such an unforgivable sin for so many.

[socool]

My god, I never even noticed the weblines were "raised" until so many on here kept pointing it out recently.

I find it weird that its such an unforgivable sin for so many.

I don't think anyone said anything about the webs. :huh:

And at 8 years old, when I saw the first picture of the suit, that was the first thing I noticed. :p

[LegendaryCaleb]

I don't think the superhero suit looking cheap is a laughing matter. Those sneakers make the suit look actually crappy, not just ugly.



We don't know but I can tell that, opposite to what Ed Wood used to think, details are important.
Yeah they aren't great...but I'm sure there won't be many scenes upclose with his shoes...all in all it's not so bad that it ruins it (IMO) I just find it funny that some think it ruins the costume...it's just hilarious to me

[spida-man]

My god, I never even noticed the weblines were "raised" until so many on here kept pointing it out recently.

I find it weird that its such an unforgivable sin for so many.

agreed i can't believe so many ppl are up in arms over the raised webbing. i think it looks awesome

[spida-man]

this was posted in the spidey "Suits and creations methods" thread and i thought i would post it here since it kinda gives us a good visual example of what the sam raimi suit would look like worn by someone a little skinnier like andrew garfield

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9862/dsc03351c.jpg

[Saint]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/Andrew-shooting-in-downtown-LA-February-4th-2011-andrew-garfield-19060557-1804-2560.jpg

The eyes look really cool here.

[the dmg]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/Andrew-shooting-in-downtown-LA-February-4th-2011-andrew-garfield-19060557-1804-2560.jpg
"Wow...this is embarrassing. Thanks for the spare pants."

[Chris Wallace]

"Wow...this is embarrassing. Thanks for the spare pants."

:lmao:

[roach]

"Dude we're lets go to your place light it up and play some Call of Duty"

[Chris M]

Same Title - Same look? (OK with more money- but you know what I mean)

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww144/Sp1dey7/SpideyTV/Models020.jpg

[Majik1387]

I don't like the Coraline eyes.

[Mace Bloodstone]

http://i53.tinypic.com/zx1n9t.jpg

just messing with the colors

[LegendaryCaleb]

ehh im not a fan of the grey and red

[Majik1387]

It's because the gray and red is ugly.

[craigdbfan]

Whoa flashback.

http://images50.fotki.com/v395/photos/2/25718/4823493/spiderman4-vi.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/zx1n9t.jpg

Double Spider-Man in the sky! http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/sad/cry-blow.gif

[Fearghus]

Anyone else think it looks better with the pants on?
I'm a big fan of the suit, but I didn't realize how much better it looks if you cover up the bottom... :)

[Mercurius]

Anyone else think it looks better with the pants on?
I'm a big fan of the suit, but I didn't realize how much better it looks if you cover up the bottom... :)

Well, when they have messed up the costume, covering it always looks like a good idea.

BTW those dark eyes ... what is it? This costume is just getting worse.

[Spider-Aziz]

this was posted in the spidey "Suits and creations methods" thread and i thought i would post it here since it kinda gives us a good visual example of what the sam raimi suit would look like worn by someone a little skinnier like andrew garfield

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9862/dsc03351c.jpgThis picture reminds me of the scene with Nicholas Hammond donning the suit for the first time in the pilot of the classic TV series

[socool]

Well, when they have messed up the costume, covering it always looks like a good idea.

BTW those dark eyes ... what is it? This costume is just getting worse.

Why do you always jump in to insult the costume when you obviously didn't read anything?

The eyes are not final, (did you even see the official shot?) they are probably being used for a scene where you need to see a reflection in Spidey's eyes.

[Spider-ManHero12]

http://i53.tinypic.com/zx1n9t.jpg

just messing with the colors Reminds me of that bad Alex Ross design, lol.

[bunk]

Looks like Spider-Man, lol.

[Spider-Aziz]

Reminds me of that bad Alex Ross design, lol.
This one still looks better, even as it reminds me myself of that suit

[Mercurius]

Why do you always jump in to insult the costume when you obviously didn't read anything?

The eyes are not final, (did you even see the official shot?) they are probably being used for a scene where you need to see a reflection in Spidey's eyes.

You're having such a hard time defending this nonsense costume that it is already getting to your nerves. :o

You shd. be a lot cooler, socool. :oldrazz:

Anyway: the official shot had the eyes yellowish, and (even worse) somewhat transparent.

Actually, I do not know which one is the winner of the ugly prize.

And please, take note that I kept a decorous silence during all the "silver sneakers" ordeal.

But look at the bright side: sometimes I jump in Emma Stone's thread to say how she'll be perfect in the movie. :yay:

[socool]

You're having such a hard time defending this nonsense costume that it is already getting to your nerves. :o

You shd. be a lot cooler, socool. :oldrazz:

Anyway: the official shot had the eyes yellowish, and (even worse) somewhat transparent.

Actually, I do not know which one is the winner of the ugly prize.

And please, take note that I kept a decorous silence during all the "silver sneakers" ordeal.

But look at the bright side: sometimes I jump in Emma Stone's thread to say how she'll be perfect in the movie. :yay:

I'm not trying to defend it. I was trying to explain the eyes that you were complaining about.

They were transparent? I didn't see that.

I admired that silence :awesome:

Yes, I noticed that. Should I be impressed? :p

[hame4479]

Yeah they aren't great...but I'm sure there won't be many scenes upclose with his shoes...all in all it's not so bad that it ruins it (IMO) I just find it funny that some think it ruins the costume...it's just hilarious to me

Exactly people act like the entire film is gonna be a slo mo shot of just his feet. Or that just that hint of silver on screen is going to totally ruin any chance they had of enjoying the flick. On a side note why do spideys eyes keep changing, my guess is that the black lenses are gonna be changed in post considering the promo shot had the white in gold ones but I dunno I like the black lenses. They feel very insect like, it would specially cool if they were just slightly transparant.

[hame4479]

Iv just never seen so many nitpickers in my life, If the people on the thor or cap threads were half as bad as u guys they prolly would have gone to hollywood to strike becuz there was so many alterations to those heroes get ups.

[hame4479]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How cheap.

Or maybe howwwwwwww, clever, peter would have to find something in the real world to use and they will hopefully explain that in the film. It actually makes perfect sense.

[hame4479]

Because trying their hardest to make the costume realistic when he has spider powers makes complete sense.


well it does if u are trying to create a realistic believable world around a superhero. The point is Peter has superpowers and is a genious. He is not a ridiculously awesome tailer or costume designer. It should look shoddy and like a freakin teenager built it. And it should be grounded the only things that shouldnt are his powers, but everything else should feel real that is how u sell the audience into believing that they are watching a superhuman in the real world. Not Raimis cheesy interpretation that lacked any believable depth and just kinda glossed over these things. I dont think peter would be designing a costume that needed to be tough and resiliant while fighting crime and then say okay lets just put sum spandex slip on socks for the shoes. And he also couldnt tailer his own shoes either. He would prolly have to use something he found in the real world which is exactly what they are doing. Its practical and believable and that is how you ground your hero in a something that resembles the world that we live in, and not a parady of it which is how raimis films felt most of the time.

[zanos]

this was posted in the spidey "Suits and creations methods" thread and i thought i would post it here since it kinda gives us a good visual example of what the sam raimi suit would look like worn by someone a little skinnier like andrew garfield

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9862/dsc03351c.jpg

You know something is wrong with a film when a homemade costume looks infinately better than one a movie studio created for probably tens of thousands of dollars.

[roach]

well it does if u are trying to create a realistic believable world around a superhero. The point is Peter has superpowers and is a genious. He is not a ridiculously awesome tailer or costume designer. It should look shoddy and like a freakin teenager built it. And it should be grounded the only things that shouldnt are his powers, but everything else should feel real that is how u sell the audience into believing that they are watching a superhuman in the real world. Not Raimis cheesy interpretation that lacked any believable depth and just kinda glossed over these things. I dont think peter would be designing a costume that needed to be tough and resiliant while fighting crime and then say okay lets just put sum spandex slip on socks for the shoes. And he also couldnt tailer his own shoes either. He would prolly have to use something he found in the real world which is exactly what they are doing. Its practical and believable and that is how you ground your hero in a something that resembles the world that we live in, and not a parady of it which is how raimis films felt most of the time.



where are we getting this "it should look hobbled together or shoddy"
from???
Did the suit in the comics look hobbled or shoddy???
Peter in the comics made his own suit, sewed back together when it ripped...I think this shows that he has a knowledge of costume design.
But I guess in your world Peter can design a pair of webshooters and develop a fluid that mimics the properties of a spider's web, develop spider tracers that react to his spider sense...he just cant make a nice looking suit...he's too poor for that?

[socool]

You know something is wrong with a film when a homemade costume looks infinately better than one a movie studio created for probably tens of thousands of dollars.

:huh: It's a premade design. It's not like he designed the costume he made...

Plus, the webs are falling off the chest.

[Doctor Jones]

I don't get the not skinny enough complaint. Romita Sr.'s Spider-Man had Maguire's body type.

[craigdbfan]

Yeah, Spidey has gone through many different body types.

Just check out the Spider-Man from the 90's animated. He's ripped as ****.

[roach]

I don't get the not skinny enough complaint. Romita Sr.'s Spider-Man had Maguire's body type.

i guess Spiderman is supposed to be Kickass...a skinny kid in a shoddy costume???

[Alchemyst]

Yeah, Spidey has gone through many different body types.

Just check out the Spider-Man from the 90's animated. He's ripped as ****.

lol yeah no **** :awesome:, I wouldn't **** with him, friendly neighborhood Spider-Man my ass!!!!!

[hame4479]

where are we getting this "it should look hobbled together or shoddy"
from???
Did the suit in the comics look hobbled or shoddy???
Peter in the comics made his own suit, sewed back together when it ripped...I think this shows that he has a knowledge of costume design.
But I guess in your world Peter can design a pair of webshooters and develop a fluid that mimics the properties of a spider's web, develop spider tracers that react to his spider sense...he just cant make a nice looking suit...he's too poor for that?


Actually depending on the artist, yeah it does come off as a rather cheap suit a kid coulda made. My point is I would rather have something that looks groundd in the real world than a suit that is flashy and nonprotective in appearance like the Raimis. I just think the texture and fabric they used on the new suit has alot more depth and looks alot more resiliant than what we got in the previous films. It feels more gritty and real. And to each his own I think the suit looks awesome, it just doesnt look nice according to your standards which are probably comic accuracy or fail.

[craigdbfan]

lol yeah no **** :awesome:, I wouldn't **** with him, friendly neighborhood Spider-Man my ass!!!!!

Seriously. Dude looked like a freaking running back.

What I found hard to believe was that Parker was ever a "nerd" in that universe. He was tremendous before the accident and has the looks of an Abercrombie and Fitch model. :hehe:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Peter_Parker_design.jpg

[roach]

Actually depending on the artist, yeah it does come off as a rather cheap suit a kid coulda made. My point is I would rather have something that looks groundd in the real world than a suit that is flashy and nonprotective in appearance like the Raimis. I just think the texture and fabric they used on the new suit has alot more depth and looks alot more resiliant than what we got in the previous films. It feels more gritty and real. And to each his own I think the suit looks awesome, it just doesnt look nice according to your standards which are probably comic accuracy or fail.

ground in the real world??????
putting sneakers on the bottom grounds the suit in the real world:woot::woot::woot:
Flashy and non protective???:woot::woot::woot:

I'd like to see one comic page where the spider-man suit looks like a kid cobbled it together from something lying around in his room...

are you serious???
am I being Punk'd????

its an ok suit but to me it looks as if they made changes to the suit for the sake of change just so no one would be confused that this wasnt Raimi's Spider-man...in the exact same way people confused Christopher Reeve and Dean Cain's Superman(Supermen)

[hame4479]

it does, peter using a pair of sneakers he already has as the footings for a suit he is making makes sense. It makes more sense then having some highly styled boots that look like they belong in a ballet and would cost hundreds of dollar to have custom talored. How do u not understand that? It sounds like ur just pissed that they changed your blessed costume!

[hame4479]

And Raimis suit didnt look more or less like spandex with raised latex webbing, flashy and not very protective? as opposed to the new one which looks like its pretty tough and has sum serious texture. It did look flashy, and it didnt look like it could take any punishment without tearing imo anyways

[roach]

it does, peter using a pair of sneakers he already has as the footings for a suit he is making makes sense. It makes more sense then having some highly styled boots that look like they belong in a ballet and would cost hundreds of dollar to have custom talored. How do u not understand that? It sounds like ur just pissed that they changed your blessed costume!

no im not pissed...I just like to point out the fallacy of those who wonder how Peter could make the suit in the Raimi films yet no one ever questioned it before 2002....of course he's too poor to afford a nice suit...yet can build all this wonderful equipment and still manage to synthesize a fluid that mimics the properties of a spider's web(daily)...just as long as the suit looks like it was made at the salvation army.

[roach]

And Raimis suit didnt look more or less like spandex with raised latex webbing as opposed to the new one which looks like its pretty tough and has sum serious texture. It did look flashy, and it didnt look like it could take any punishment without tearing imo anyways

right because he should have some protection since its not like he'd have some crazy precognitive power that warns him of danger :spidey:
or reflexes quick enough to dodge bullets

[Alchemyst]

Seriously. Dude looked like a freaking running back.

What I found hard to believe was that Parker was ever a "nerd" in that universe. He was tremendous before the accident and has the looks of an Abercrombie and Fitch model. :hehe:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Peter_Parker_design.jpg

Lol and Flash Thompson was giving this guy ****!?!?!? he's got some balls

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tYCPX7eHCmo/SqIDXXuHc3I/AAAAAAAAAKg/yqbr_X8sZz0/s320/areosmith.jpg

[hame4479]

Yeah its not like he doesnt also regularly end up in sitchuations where he takes damage of some sort, O wait yeah that happens. Did u not watch the last three films he routinely gets in sitchuations where he gets his ass kicked. he isnt superman his powers can only protect him to a certain extent. When the lizard is giving him a beating u ask urself which suit material looks more suitable for the sitchuation. This is like comparing batman begins to batman 89. Begins has a realistic suit with an explanation, 89 has a rubber chestpiece that he just sorta has that looks a lot less practical but alot more flashy.

[roach]

Yeah its not like he doesnt also regularly end up in sitchuations where he takes damage of some sort, O wait yeah that happens. Did u not watch the last three films he routinely gets in sitchuations where he gets his ass kicked. he isnt superman his powers can only protect him to a certain extent. When the lizard is giving him a beating u ask urself which suit material looks more suitable for the sitchuation. This is like comparing batman begins to batman 89. Begins has a realistic suit with an explanation, 89 has a rubber chestpiece that he just sorta has that looks a lot less practical but alot more flashy.

so raimi's Spidey suit got ripped up just like in the comics...oh the humanity:whatever:
and Im pretty sure if the Spidey/Lizard fight is anywhere as brutal as the Spidey/Goblin fight the material of the suit wont be anything I discuss or ponder about

and Batman 89 chest piece was explained as some sort of body armor...that took a bullet

[craigdbfan]

Lol and Flash Thompson was giving this guy ****!?!?!? he's got some balls

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tYCPX7eHCmo/SqIDXXuHc3I/AAAAAAAAAKg/yqbr_X8sZz0/s320/areosmith.jpg

haha seriously. :funny:

[Vid Electricz]

it does, peter using a pair of sneakers he already has as the footings for a suit he is making makes sense. It makes more sense then having some highly styled boots that look like they belong in a ballet and would cost hundreds of dollar to have custom talored. How do u not understand that? It sounds like ur just pissed that they changed your blessed costume!


That's assuming that Peter even makes the costume in this film. $10 and a pizza says it is given to him.

Also, your post is hilarious. Both costumes are insanely complex and expensive looking. Your argument really makes no sense...and yeah, it seems people are pissed because they made changes to the classic ("your blessed"?) costume. Thanks for the laugh.

[hame4479]

That's assuming that Peter even makes the costume in this film. $10 and a pizza says it is given to him.

Also, your post is hilarious. Both costumes are insanely complex and expensive looking. Your argument really makes no sense...and yeah, it seems people are pissed because they made changes to the classic ("your blessed?") costume. Thanks for the laugh.


given to him by whom? and my point is that the new costume looks more practical, protective, and like something that was pieced togethor by a teenager than raimis suit. Yeah they both look "expensive" I suppose, its a costume for a hundred million dollar film of course they r going to be expensive. But my main argument is that the new suit looks more like something that was potentially pieced togethor by a teenager than the previous costume, and looks like it was made out of a far more protective and tough material. In other words sensible, practical material if you are of course going to be going out and doing what he is doing. I dont see how u can argue against that. It is far more difficult to sew togethor a bicolored leotard, silkscreen it with a pattern and then make molds for every inch of the webbing you are going to glue on it which obviously wouldn't stay and then to cast said webbing and place it perfectly all over the costume. This is compared to say taking what looks like two different tough fabrics that were derived from some original source, a wetsuit or whatever, and just sew them togethor and then etch in sum web lines. The costume even looks pretty raw and as u guys keep saying crappy. What I am saying is maybe thats the point How do u not understand that. You havent made one argument other than to pretty much establish that your mad becuz it doesnt look exactly like the classic comic spidey uniform, and there for it sucks. Is that really all you got. No legitimate argument about what I am saying concerning the fabric or its practicality. I mean obviously they are both going to look profesional and expensive it is once again a hundred million dollar motion picture. It is going to be made of something other than what u r going to find at wal mart. But when I look at the costumes side by side I think the new costume looks more like what I would want to wear if I was going to be fighting crime, and Im once again refering to the material and not aesthetics and overall design.

[hame4479]

If you were gonna fight crime would u want to wear spandex or a thicker more protective rubbery, leathery material?

[hame4479]

so raimi's Spidey suit got ripped up just like in the comics...oh the humanity:whatever:
and Im pretty sure if the Spidey/Lizard fight is anywhere as brutal as the Spidey/Goblin fight the material of the suit wont be anything I discuss or ponder about

and Batman 89 chest piece was explained as some sort of body armor...that took a bullet

And the batman 89 chest piece was not explained he has the the suit and chestpiece its armored those are obvious things. I want to know where he got it, what is it made of, how does it stop bullets, a legitimate explanation ala batman begins. It adds alot of meaning to the armor in that case. In 89 there is one line and the rest is just glossed over thus taking me out of the experience a touch becuz it doesnt seem or look practical. all I am saying is for the all the things that happen in these superhero films that are fantastic and unbelievable I want the things that can be explained in a believable fashion, like a costume that obviously doesnt derive from superpowers, to make sense and look like it makes sense. I cant help but assume all you want is what u see in a comic book. In the medium of film it doesnt always work that way. The design aesthetics are one thing, like I said, but materials and the way it is put togethor are another so dont hate and something that looks sensible becuz it doesnt have a belt and there are like silver things on the feet. Or at least admit that u dont like it becuz it doesnt look exactly like what u are used to. And all this is based of course on me assuming that they go out of there way to explain the costume. If they dont and they gloss I will prolly be kinda pissed considering peters creation of the costume and webshooters are very key to the character becuz they display his genius.

[roach]

the point of Batman 89 was that Batman was supposed to be a mystery...you are not supposed to see where he comes from....just a creature of the night who comes out of the shadows...fights crime and blends right back into the shadows...it was done on purpose.

I dont need to see Bruce making the Batsuit nor the mechanics behind it...its not important to the story as opposed to Tony Stark making his armor which is very much part of the story. He was shot in the chest and someone said it was body armor. Really thats all I needed.

Now ofcourse in the day and age of explain everything we have to have a Spider-man who wears a suit that offers protection...i just dont see it...not for a guy who can heal fast and is pretty resistant to damage. You may like the cobbled together look but nothing I have seen or read suggests that the suit should be cobbled together. Now my complaint with the sneakers stems from how does he stick to walls with them on?
If they go with the spider claw thingies from the Raimi movies are they gonna be able to reach thru the thick rubber bottom????
According to the comics Peter wears a lightweight and thin suit to allow him to stick to walls and so he is unhindered in his acrobatic moves.

[Majik1387]

How is everyone complaining about the sneakers yet avoiding mentioning the boots in Raimi's movies.

How do you guys even know that the reboot Spidey shoes are even supposed to be sneakers? They look like modified sneakers to look like boots for the movie.

And even in the comic, how does Spidey manage to wall crawl with whatever footwear he's wearing?

Seriously, these complaints are ridiculous.

[roach]

And even in the comic, how does Spidey manage to wall crawl with whatever footwear he's wearing?



generally he doesnt as most of the time if Peter is wall crawling in civies he is doing it with his shoes off. His ability to wall crawl goes thru thin material...so his spidey "boots" are as thin as socks

i would expect the movie suits not be sock-like as it wouldnt be conducive to a stunt man running around

[El Payaso]

How is everyone complaining about the sneakers yet avoiding mentioning the boots in Raimi's movies.

How do you guys even know that the reboot Spidey shoes are even supposed to be sneakers? They look like modified sneakers to look like boots for the movie.

And even in the comic, how does Spidey manage to wall crawl with whatever footwear he's wearing?

Seriously, these complaints are ridiculous.

Let's say that both the boots (comics' and Raimi's) and the sneakers are useless to crawl walls. But the sneakers look cheap and crappy. Therefore if I had to choose I'd stick to the comics' and Raimi's boots.

And well, sneakers, modified sneakers or astronaut boots they look terrible and out of place.

[Majik1387]

And with that mode of thinking, think of what actually will be visible in the movie.

I mean seriously, how often were you looking at Spidey's feet in the Raimi movies when they were visible?
Don't lie now. :o

[roach]

And with that mode of thinking, think of what actually will be visible in the movie.

I mean seriously, how often were you looking at Spidey's feet in the Raimi movies when they were visible?
Don't lie now. :o

how often did we see the organic spinners but we heard on and on and on about them

[El Payaso]

And with that mode of thinking, think of what actually will be visible in the movie.

I mean seriously, how often were you looking at Spidey's feet in the Raimi movies when they were visible?
Don't lie now. :o

I think that if they made the sneakers for the suit - or anything that anyone has made specially for a movie no matter which movie is it - it is supposed to be on the screen for whatever the time is. I'm sure that things that are not supposed to be visible on the screen are never made to start with.

But details, opposite to what Ed Wood said, are important. Any director knows that. No matter if you're designing the big building for a shot or the tiny one back there, they're supposed to be well designed. No one thinks, 'meh, let's keep Batman's boots pink, who looks at Batman's boots too much anyways'.

Now, let's not even talk about promo pictures, because people look at those and every detail is there. And, again, let's not even talk that those sneakers are so completely different from anything else in that suit that they catch attention.

Being a detail that's not the main thing on a movie or that won't be on screen too much, doesn't justify bad design.

[roach]

and too be honest we saw his feet in Spider-man a great deal

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

But how often were you focused on them? Honestly, the patterns on the feet aren't going to be a big deal at all when you're actually watching the movie.

[El Payaso]

And to be honest we see everything about the superhero in a superhero movie.

[El Payaso]

But how often were you focused on them? Honestly, the patterns on the feet aren't going to be a big deal at all when you're actually watching the movie.

I know I'll be watching the mask and I know that web-pattern is crap too. :csad:

[hame4479]

How is everyone complaining about the sneakers yet avoiding mentioning the boots in Raimi's movies.

How do you guys even know that the reboot Spidey shoes are even supposed to be sneakers? They look like modified sneakers to look like boots for the movie.

And even in the comic, how does Spidey manage to wall crawl with whatever footwear he's wearing?

Seriously, these complaints are ridiculous.

Hey Im bored here and trying to entertain myself okay :awesome:. But yeah you are totally right.

[hame4479]

Superherohype Rule #63:Costume threads are a waste of time

[roach]

But how often were you focused on them? Honestly, the patterns on the feet aren't going to be a big deal at all when you're actually watching the movie.

off memory these are the few times I remember seeing the feet in Spiderman
1)Spiderman swinging feet first at the camera when we see the suit for the first time
2)When Spiderman lands on the wall during the WF attack right before the big ballon is about to fall on the kid
3)Peter hiding from Norman outside of his room
4)During final swing of movie

[roach]

Superherohype Rule #63:Costume threads are a waste of time

wise words from the sage

its a thread of people who have already made up their minds one way or another trying to convince each other of their point of view

[Vid Electricz]

given to him by whom? and my point is that the new costume looks more practical, protective, and like something that was pieced togethor by a teenager than raimis suit. Yeah they both look "expensive" I suppose, its a costume for a hundred million dollar film of course they r going to be expensive. But my main argument is that the new suit looks more like something that was potentially pieced togethor by a teenager than the previous costume, and looks like it was made out of a far more protective and tough material. In other words sensible, practical material if you are of course going to be going out and doing what he is doing. I dont see how u can argue against that. It is far more difficult to sew togethor a bicolored leotard, silkscreen it with a pattern and then make molds for every inch of the webbing you are going to glue on it which obviously wouldn't stay and then to cast said webbing and place it perfectly all over the costume. This is compared to say taking what looks like two different tough fabrics that were derived from some original source, a wetsuit or whatever, and just sew them togethor and then etch in sum web lines. The costume even looks pretty raw and as u guys keep saying crappy. What I am saying is maybe thats the point How do u not understand that. You havent made one argument other than to pretty much establish that your mad becuz it doesnt look exactly like the classic comic spidey uniform, and there for it sucks. Is that really all you got. No legitimate argument about what I am saying concerning the fabric or its practicality. I mean obviously they are both going to look profesional and expensive it is once again a hundred million dollar motion picture. It is going to be made of something other than what u r going to find at wal mart. But when I look at the costumes side by side I think the new costume looks more like what I would want to wear if I was going to be fighting crime, and Im once again refering to the material and not aesthetics and overall design.


Given to him by his television or wrestling manager, silly. Because his home-made duds wouldn't cut it in the limelight... Just like in the USM comic. $10 and a pizza.

Anyway.

Werd up homie. Who's mad? Who hates the new costume? I don't ever remember saying anything of the sort. Just because I posed a counter point to your argument doesn't mean I hate anything. There's really no need to get so defensive. *Sigh* Fanboy extremism. Not everyone has to absolutely LOVE or absolutely HATE everything.

Aside from all that, your argument doesn't make much sense. So you argue that the materials used for the costume are better because they're more practical. So you argue for practicality. How are red racing stripes or blue fingered gloves more practical than the classic design? No one is actually arguing against the materials which the suit is composed of. They look great, in fact. People are upset that the classic design was altered for no real reason other than to differentiate it from the previous films. There you go. Your argument is a non-point.

[roach]

Given to him by his television or wrestling manager, silly. Because his home-made duds wouldn't cut it in the limelight... Just like in the USM comic. $10 and a pizza.

Anyway.

Werd up homie. Who's mad? Who hates the new costume? I don't ever remember saying anything of the sort. Just because I posed a counter point to your argument doesn't mean I hate anything. There's really no need to get so defensive. *Sigh* Fanboy extremism. Not everyone has to absolutely LOVE or absolutely HATE everything.

Aside from all that, your argument doesn't make much sense. So you argue that the materials used for the costume are better because they're more practical. So you argue for practicality. How are red racing stripes or blue fingered gloves more practical than the classic design? No one is actually arguing against the materials which the suit is composed of. They look great, in fact. People are upset that the classic design was altered for no real reason other than to differentiate it from the previous films. There you go. Your argument is a non-point.

pretty much

[craigdbfan]

The truth of the matter is that the Ditko design worked whereas this elseworld costume has been divisive and over excessive in certain regards.

Material change? Fine, great!. Color change? Sounds spectacular absolutely. Texture change? Yeah, awesome!, and I think I'll change the shape of the lenses and make them yellow tinted! That sounds like a brilliant idea go for it!

All those things are the great things about this costume.

But they had to go and change the Ditko design pattern scheme to one thats vastly inferior as has every other costume "change" Spidey has had since his creation. Artist and Marvel always revert back and its for a reason. The artist change all those things in my first paragraph but stick to the Ditko pattern because its proven to work and at this point is iconic.

There are two characters that can pull off their classical costumes due to their abilities and that is Superman and Spider-Man. Those are two characters that have every right for their costumes to look as close to their comic counterparts.

[Majik1387]

how often did we see the organic spinners but we heard on and on and on about them
That's a whole other matter, I'll just say, I didn't mind the organics, I don't mind the mechanical wrist shooters, I'll just say I would have preferred mecha-organics;
I coined the term as I haven't seen anyone else use it, I'll just give a basic definition. He has the ability to spin the webs, but he needs the wrist shooters to control them. I find it lame that the only "super" power (other than heightened agility and strength) was the Spidey sense. I would feel ripped off is a character based off a spider didn't have any sort of web powers. :o
I think that if they made the sneakers for the suit - or anything that anyone has made specially for a movie no matter which movie is it - it is supposed to be on the screen for whatever the time is. I'm sure that things that are not supposed to be visible on the screen are never made to start with.

But details, opposite to what Ed Wood said, are important. Any director knows that. No matter if you're designing the big building for a shot or the tiny one back there, they're supposed to be well designed. No one thinks, 'meh, let's keep Batman's boots pink, who looks at Batman's boots too much anyways'.

Now, let's not even talk about promo pictures, because people look at those and every detail is there. And, again, let's not even talk that those sneakers are so completely different from anything else in that suit that they catch attention.

Being a detail that's not the main thing on a movie or that won't be on screen too much, doesn't justify bad design.
Good thing it's not a bad design. :cwink:
and too be honest we saw his feet in Spider-man a great deal
But how often were you focused on them? Honestly, the patterns on the feet aren't going to be a big deal at all when you're actually watching the movie.
Exactly, it's a ridiculous complaint.
Hey Im bored here and trying to entertain myself okay :awesome:. But yeah you are totally right.
:cwink:
Superherohype Rule #63:Costume threads are a waste of time
:cmad: This post offends me. :o

[El Payaso]

Good thing it's not a bad design. :cwink:

Yes. Last time we had this great design of pasting random silver things into a superhero suit for the sake of it was in Batman & Robin. And even then the ugly design was because it was supposed to be a special suit.

[Majik1387]

Yes. Last time we had this great design of pasting random silver things into a superhero suit for the sake of it was in Spider-Man
Fixed. :cwink:

And there are still complaints about it.

[roach]

sorry rule #63 offends you but let me ask you a question...today did you learn anything while posting in this thread?
Did anyone's opinion change?
Did your opinion change?
Was there constructive dialogue?
or was there just two sides talking at each other with no side yielding anything
...sounds like a waste of time to me

[Majik1387]

sorry rule #63 offends you but let me ask you a question...today did you learn anything while posting in this thread?
Did anyone's opinion change?
Did your opinion change?
Was there constructive dialogue?
or was there just two sides talking at each other with no side yielding anything
...sounds like a waste of time to me
It's was a semi-joke response because I do costuming. Granted, on nothing big or mainstream(yet), but try and tell me a superhero's costume doesn't matter or are wastes of time. :o

[roach]

Fixed. :cwink:

And there are still complaints about it.

glad to see Webb is keeping the tradition alive:woot:

[roach]

It's was a semi-joke response because I do costuming. Granted, on nothing big or mainstream(yet), but try and tell me a superhero's costume doesn't matter or are wastes of time. :o

Superhero costumes are very important
Superherohype threads about costumes are not

I'll keep you in mind when I graduate from film school next year

[Spider-Who?]

That's a whole other matter, I'll just say, I didn't mind the organics, I don't mind the mechanical wrist shooters, I'll just say I would have preferred mecha-organics;
I coined the term as I haven't seen anyone else use it, I'll just give a basic definition. He has the ability to spin the webs, but he needs the wrist shooters to control them. I find it lame that the only "super" power (other than heightened agility and strength) was the Spidey sense. I would feel ripped off is a character based off a spider didn't have any sort of web powers. :o


Not to burst your bubble, but your about 11 years late on this. Had you been around during the original Organics v. Mechs debacle, you'd know that your post equates to me standing up and saying "I coin the term.....BAT****CRAZY!"

[roach]

well i did coin the phrase 'if you look in Spiderman's eyes you'll see....."

[Vid Electricz]

The truth of the matter is that the Ditko design worked whereas this elseworld costume has been divisive and over excessive in certain regards.

Material change? Fine, great!. Color change? Sounds spectacular absolutely. Texture change? Yeah, awesome!, and I think I'll change the shape of the lenses and make them yellow tinted! That sounds like a brilliant idea go for it!

All those things are the great things about this costume.

But they had to go and change the Ditko design pattern scheme to one thats vastly inferior as has every other costume "change" Spidey has had since his creation. Artist and Marvel always revert back and its for a reason. The artist change all those things in my first paragraph but stick to the Ditko pattern because its proven to work and at this point is iconic.

There are two characters that can pull off their classical costumes due to their abilities and that is Superman and Spider-Man. Those are two characters that have every right for their costumes to look as close to their comic counterparts.


I hate when people quote someone and they just write "^ This" or something that contributes in no way to the conversation... I mean, what's the point of even responding? So everyone else knows you agree?

But I gotta say: Very well said. You put it perfectly. The costume designers could have very well pushed the boundaries of the Ditko design, but still stayed within it's parameters (keeping the belt, no leg stripes). Which is to say, by changing the color, texture, patterns, webs, eyes, etc... they could easily have differentiated it from the original film...instead, they went too far...like, George Lucas far (which is to say, exceeding the boundaries of good taste by making pointless, needless changes and alterations to something that was already perfect. lol).

But anyway, very well put.

[craigdbfan]

I hate when people quote someone and they just write "^ This" or something that contributes in no way to the conversation... I mean, what's the point of even responding? So everyone else knows you agree?

But I gotta say: Very well said. You put it perfectly. The costume designers could have very well pushed the boundaries of the Ditko design, but still stayed within it's parameters (keeping the belt, no leg stripes). Which is to say, by changing the color, texture, patterns, webs, eyes, etc... they could easily have differentiated it from the original film...instead, they went too far...like, George Lucas far (which is to say, exceeding the boundaries of good taste by making pointless, needless changes and alterations to something that was already perfect. lol).

But anyway, very well put.

I'm 100% with you on sentiments man. There's a fine line and it was crossed and its a shame because the costume has good elements to it as both you and I as well as others recognize but once they stepped over the Ditko pattern scheme that Romita Jr & Sr, MacFarlane , Bagley, Andru, etc have all understood and followed but added their own mark to them it dropped into a pitfall.

[El Payaso]

Fixed. :cwink:

And there are still complaints about it.

I didn't know that in your concept adding spider-webs (that, opposite to the current suit, did look like spider-webs) to the spider-suit could ever be done "for the sake of it," as I described.

But seeing that you like the new suit so much, anything against a traditional good-looking design is possible.

[Vid Electricz]

sorry rule #63 offends you but let me ask you a question...today did you learn anything while posting in this thread?
Did anyone's opinion change?
Did your opinion change?
Was there constructive dialogue?
or was there just two sides talking at each other with no side yielding anything
...sounds like a waste of time to me


Totally agree, man. I'd take it a step farther actually and say that about 95% of internet message board activity or comments on news stories or sites like youtube (the worst offender in my eyes) are all completely and entirely pointless. An utterly meaningless waste of time. People insult each other needlessly (internet anonymity yay!), argue relentlessly and yet no one yields or changes their mind. Ever. What's the point?

I'd say it's to fulfill some desire that's obviously lacking in their everyday lives. Whatever that may be.

Sorry for getting off topic guys. Where were we? Silver spider-booties?

[roach]

generally I have good conversations and learn things here but there is something about costume threads that is a circular argument

[Majik1387]

Because most people don't understand how costuming works. It's not just about what fabric it should be made out of and what color, it's a matter of what the camera will pick up.
Everything you ever see on film or television that's the color white isn't white in real life. It is always a very pale blue or yellow most of the time. White House on the West Wing? Piss yellow in real life.
As for textures, again, how camera's photograph it may not be the same way cameras recording it in action pick it up. Superman Returns Superman costume had tiny barely raised \S/'s for the texture all over the costume.
One colored spandex just looks too flat onscreen(Reeve's Superman, Poison Ivy) and that's why things like shading, and textures are a heavy priority in filming a costume. If they don't work for the camera, it's a bust. If they work for the camera but look disagreeable in set photos, so be it; as long as it looks as it's supposed to in the movie.

[roach]

Because most people don't understand how costuming works. It's not just about what fabric it should be made out of and what color, it's a matter of what the camera will pick up.
Everything you ever see on film or television that's the color white isn't white in real life. It is always a very pale blue or yellow most of the time. White House on the West Wing? Piss yellow in real life.
As for textures, again, how camera's photograph it may not be the same way cameras recording it in action pick it up. Superman Returns Superman costume had tiny barely raised \S/'s for the texture all over the costume.
One colored spandex just looks too flat onscreen(Reeve's Superman, Poison Ivy) and that's why things like shading, and textures are a heavy priority in filming a costume. If they don't work for the camera, it's a bust. If they work for the camera but look disagreeable in set photos, so be it; as long as it looks as it's supposed to in the movie.


exactly why they do costume and camera tests

[El Payaso]

Because most people don't understand how costuming works. It's not just about what fabric it should be made out of and what color, it's a matter of what the camera will pick up.

If at any point the camera picks Spidey's feet, then we'll get sneakers instead of his traditional boots. And tell me if you think that at no point they'll do that, because if that's the case we'd be okay having a barefoot Spidey. After all, they won't show his feet too much.

[Vid Electricz]

Because most people don't understand how costuming works. It's not just about what fabric it should be made out of and what color, it's a matter of what the camera will pick up.
Everything you ever see on film or television that's the color white isn't white in real life. It is always a very pale blue or yellow most of the time. White House on the West Wing? Piss yellow in real life.
As for textures, again, how camera's photograph it may not be the same way cameras recording it in action pick it up. Superman Returns Superman costume had tiny barely raised \S/'s for the texture all over the costume.
One colored spandex just looks too flat onscreen(Reeve's Superman, Poison Ivy) and that's why things like shading, and textures are a heavy priority in filming a costume. If they don't work for the camera, it's a bust. If they work for the camera but look disagreeable in set photos, so be it; as long as it looks as it's supposed to in the movie.


Thanks for the lesson, prof.

I think it's generally agreed that the textures/fabrics/patterns chosen for this costume are outstanding. It's rather the costume designers choice of how to arrange these elements in a jarring departure from the Ditko design that is most unsettling to fans.

But seriously, you are right. Details like this go right over most people's heads. Then again, the same can be said for set design, lighting, cinematography, editing, etc... Shame, really.

[chaseter]

Don't forget catering. They really go above and beyond.

[Vid Electricz]

Don't forget catering. They really go above and beyond.


Dude. The last party I was at that had catering was awful. They did NOT have Chef Boyardee Dinosaurs and Meatballs. Which IMHO is a deal breaker.

Worthless.

[The Slang]

I find it lame that the only "super" power (other than heightened agility and strength) was the Spidey sense. I would feel ripped off is a character based off a spider didn't have any sort of web powers. :o

Are you saying that if you were bitten by a radioactive spider, and suddenly inherrited it's proportionate strength, an ability to stick to walls, immediately enhanced agility, speed, reflexes and an early awareness of danger... you'd be disappointed that strange near unbreakable goo isn't leaking out of your body? Through some hideous arachnid-tissue growth?

Getting powers without any noticeable deformity is what's so fortunate about Parker's transformation. How would you go to the doctor? Or the beach? What would girls think? Having a visibly inhuman anatomy could've actually made for some good story telling, but it wouldn't be the same Spider-Man Stan lee/Steve Ditko created if Parker doesn't have the luxury of appearing outwardly normal.

The only organic-esque idea I'd like would be him sweating out a protein that he uses with other chemicals to make web fluid.

[Spider-Aziz]

Seriously. Dude looked like a freaking running back.

What I found hard to believe was that Parker was ever a "nerd" in that universe. He was tremendous before the accident and has the looks of an Abercrombie and Fitch model. :hehe:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Peter_Parker_design.jpgI kept wondering why he was large and removed his glasses before the spider bit him

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Yeah, same here. I mean, it never bothered me, but it's there, lol.

[Gunga Diner]

Dude. The last party I was at that had catering was awful. They did NOT have Chef Boyardee Dinosaurs and Meatballs. Which IMHO is a deal breaker.

Worthless.
I bet it was Sam Raimi's fault.

[Spider-Who?]

^^ Yeah, same here. I mean, it never bothered me, but it's there, lol.
his outfits cracked me up. First he looked like he should be playing golf with all the other male models inhis fraternity, then out of no where, he looks like he stepped off of a desaturated Miami Vice set.

[Spoonman]

I didn't know that in your concept adding spider-webs (that, opposite to the current suit, did look like spider-webs) to the spider-suit could ever be done "for the sake of it," as I described.

But seeing that you like the new suit so much, anything against a traditional good-looking design is possible.

Agreed, oh and you know something? The complain about the raised webing on Raimi's suit is probably one, if not the most ridiculous of the complains I have ever witnessed on the Internet. I never for a moment believed that was a bad thing when watching the movie on 2002 and only knew it was such an issue for fans on forums. To this day I can not understand what is wrong or ugly about it.

Ugly silver soles and weird web patern I can understand, and I still believe the new suit sucks unless the finished product looks magically different because of filtering or post-procesing or whatever.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Agreed, oh and you know something? The complain about the raised webing on Raimi's suit is probably one, if not the most ridiculous of the complains I have ever witnessed on the Internet. I never for a moment believed that was a bad thing when watching the movie on 2002 and only knew it was such an issue for fans on forums. To this day I can not understand what is wrong or ugly about it. This. :up:

[El Payaso]

Agreed, oh and you know something? The complain about the raised webing on Raimi's suit is probably one, if not the most ridiculous of the complains I have ever witnessed on the Internet. I never for a moment believed that was a bad thing when watching the movie on 2002 and only knew it was such an issue for fans on forums. To this day I can not understand what is wrong or ugly about it.

Ugly silver soles and weird web patern I can understand, and I still believe the new suit sucks unless the finished product looks magically different because of filtering or post-procesing or whatever.

Let's just boo at Superman's, Batman's, Robin's, Daredevil's, Fantastic Four's raised symbols and Wolverine's raised design. Raising stuff is booable all of a sudden.

One of Raimi's spider-suit's best things was that silver raised web. It looked like spider-web and got the design right. This new suit could hardly have the web pattern any worse than it did, raised or not.

[craigdbfan]

Pretty much.

[socool]

Am I the only one that doesn't notice the new webbing until someone says something? My eyes just glaze right over it. It looks fine. I just...I guess I don't care. It doesn't stick out like the Raimi web. (which bugged me because of its rubber look) And I think I like that. I can see it, but it doesn't stand out as the first feature.

[El Payaso]

Am I the only one that doesn't notice the new webbing until someone says something? My eyes just glaze right over it. It looks fine. I just...I guess I don't care. It doesn't stick out like the Raimi web. (which bugged me because of its rubber look) And I think I like that. I can see it, but it doesn't stand out as the first feature.

For me the problem is not raised vs not raised but that the new suit has the web pattern all wrong. It doesn't follow the spider-web design, they're just long crossed lines, at times they just dissapear... just because. And because the spider in the back is lonmg they just... like suddenly cut the red of the back so the spider could fit in.

[socool]

For me the problem is not raised vs not raised but that the new suit has the web pattern all wrong. It doesn't follow the spider-web design, they're just long crossed lines, at times they just dissapear... just because. And because the spider in the back is lonmg they just... like suddenly cut the red of the back so the spider could fit in.

OH! The design. I thought you meant the look. Yeah, the design is poor. The "globe" look on his chest is stupid. But the lines on his abs actually, for some reason, "tickle my fancy" I have no idea why. The hands have no web except for three lines leading to his fingers which is weird. Don't get that... The crossed lines I like. They're still webs, just not curved. Doesn't bug me. Still, wonder why they couldn't curve them. Maybe for the sake of 3D or because thats easier to animate for CGI purposes...I dunno.

[storyteller]

Are you saying that if you were bitten by a radioactive spider, and suddenly inherrited it's proportionate strength, an ability to stick to walls, immediately enhanced agility, speed, reflexes and an early awareness of danger... you'd be disappointed that strange near unbreakable goo isn't leaking out of your body? Through some hideous arachnid-tissue growth?
.


Its not about being dissapointed in the powers you get its what separated Spider-man from say Captain America or daredevil. leave out sticking to walls and you just talked about Captain America with some psychic precognition(which isn't how spiders work). Tack back on sticking to walls and I got a few other animals/insects with a similar ability. But overall your talking about Captain America. Spiderman was able to play Daredevil for a few issues of his comic because besides the webshooting, no one could tell the difference. At the same token other heroes could play Spiderman.

But back onto costume. I don't care how expensive a suit looks, I dont care. Get past the whole non comic accurate costume. We get it you don't like the new suit because its not comic accurate.

I will be disappointed if the silver sneakers don't come off though. There is no excuse as to why they could have colored does red/blue or just not have them all together and replaced it with a thicker boot. That silver is distracting and doesn't work with the suit. Its all right on the webshooters because of the function(its important the audience sees the webshooters) but not the shoes. I hope its simply for that particular scene and they just come off in post.

[socool]

I will be disappointed if the silver sneakers don't come off though. There is no excuse as to why they could have colored does red/blue or just not have them all together and replaced it with a thicker boot. That silver is distracting and doesn't work with the suit. Its all right on the webshooters because of the function(its important the audience sees the webshooters) but not the shoes. I hope its simply for that particular scene and they just come off in post.

In the new shot, they appear if you brighten the pic...:csad:

[Alex_Spider]

I found this Spidey model done by Steve Kouts at http://koutsart.blogspot.com/2010/11/spider-man-model.html and maniped the new suit.

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9825/spiderfront.jpg (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/spiderfront.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ He got the feet and gloves wrong and there's no web under the arms of the suit, lol.

[Alex_Spider]

I know. I purposely changed the things you mentioned. I prefer them this way.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Oh, I see.

[craigdbfan]

I would have liked the little webs under the arms. If they were going to change the costume as much as they did they should have just added those.

Go all out.

[socool]

I would have liked the little webs under the arms. If they were going to change the costume as much as they did they should have just added those.

Go all out.

Someone's gonna ask them why they didn't add them and they will say "They looked stupid."

:dry:

[craigdbfan]

And the silver shoes and other needless design changes are any better?

Would the webs really detract that much from an already altered costume?

I don't really think so. Also not to be mean but I wouldn't make the webs under his arms that dark and cotton like it'd be more of a transparent web form that extends into a corner web for the arch of his arm, It'd also be made out of a much thinner material having more of a silk look to it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Edit

[El Payaso]

OH! The design. I thought you meant the look. Yeah, the design is poor. The "globe" look on his chest is stupid. But the lines on his abs actually, for some reason, "tickle my fancy" I have no idea why. The hands have no web except for three lines leading to his fingers which is weird. Don't get that... The crossed lines I like. They're still webs, just not curved. Doesn't bug me. Still, wonder why they couldn't curve them. Maybe for the sake of 3D or because thats easier to animate for CGI purposes...I dunno.

Maybe but I think they animated the right pattern quite well in the previous 3 films. And that globe pattern is also in the mask, that will be harder to ignore for me.


I found this Spidey model done by Steve Kouts at http://koutsart.blogspot.com/2010/11/spider-man-model.html and maniped the new suit.

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9825/spiderfront.jpg (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/spiderfront.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us/)

This shows that the spider-web pattern done right and the absence of the pointless silver sneakers make the whole suit automatically better.

[socool]

And the silver shoes and other needless design changes are any better?

Would the webs really detract that much from an already altered costume?

I don't really think so. Also not to be mean but I wouldn't make the webs under his arms that dark and cotton like it'd be more of a transparent web form that extends into a corner web for the arch of his arm, It'd also be made out of a much thinner material having more of a silk look to it.

It was a joke :awesome:

Sarcasm sense went AWOL on you :p

[craigdbfan]

Appears so.

[JamalYIgle]

Guys...they really are using shoes! Asic shoes. RUNNING shoes

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/9723/222%20copy.jpg

wow, just....wow.

I guess the old adage stands,the more product placement the higher the budget.

[bunk]

wow, just....wow.

I guess the old adage stands,the more product placement the higher the budget.

Probably not. They don't even have the typical design for that brand. They look like knock offs. Prop masters will do this just to cut corners. Don't know if that's the case here or not.

[Vid Electricz]

wow, just....wow.

I guess the old adage stands,the more product placement the higher the budget.



Huh. You're right! These look exactly the same. Those silver booties scream "Asics" don't you think? Usually, when a product is "plugged", the logo or brand is very prominent or at the very least, visible. These silvery booties were obviously kept purposely obscured.

Also, lol at the "cutting corners" comment. With a budget like this? Does the rest of the costume look like they're cutting corners? This isn't a Tommy Wiseau production here. They probably added them to give off the overall vibe of athleticism that they seem to be going for with this look.

http://s7ondemand1.scene7.com/is/image/roadrunnersports/ASW2240-SLBK?wid=442&hei=432&fmt=jpeg&qlt=75,0&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=1.1,1.0,5,0&iccEmbed=0

[bunk]

Also, lol at the "cutting corners" comment. With a budget like this? Does the rest of the costume look like they're cutting corners? This isn't a Tommy Wiseau production here.


You're missing the point. Hollywood productions will routinely re-purpose something rather than create from scratch. As I said, I don't know if that is the case here. It's possible the sneakers actually figure into the story in some small way. Either way, it's not something to be offended by.

[chaseter]

This production went back...

...to asics.

YEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Vid Electricz]

You're missing the point. Hollywood productions will routinely re-purpose something rather than create from scratch. As I said, I don't know if that is the case here. It's possible the sneakers actually figure into the story in some small way. Either way, it's not something to be offended by.


No offense taken. I totally get what you're saying, you're just using the term "cutting corners" incorrectly. "Cutting corners" implies that they tried to do it surreptitiously and in a cheap way at the sacrifice of quality.

I think that the look they were going for requires a sort of hodge-podge of ideas. The track stripes down the legs, the "track shoes" the weight-lifter inspired gloves, etc... This was obviously the consensus among Marc Webb's costume designers. Someone must have seen that shoe and thought it looked *absolutely perfect*. In other words, the choice was intentional, when they could just as easily have made their own silvery bootie dealy things.

Who the heck knows why they chose those shoes exactly! Maybe it's one of those subconscious things where you don't know exactly what you're seeing... but your brain sure does.

[Spider-Aziz]

I found this Spidey model done by Steve Kouts at http://koutsart.blogspot.com/2010/11/spider-man-model.html and maniped the new suit.

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9825/spiderfront.jpg (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/spiderfront.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)With exception for the armpit webbing, I like this look more

[craigdbfan]

This production went back...

...to asics.

YEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

:funny:

[spida-man]

http://i53.tinypic.com/zx1n9t.jpg

just messing with the colors

wow..that looks awesome
red and dark blue. the little areas of the lighter blue muscle highlights kinda remind me of my favorite art style for spidey...
where the blue is really mostly black with blue muscle tone outlines. like the front cover of amazing Fantasy 15
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2MQAtQi2AtU/TV1vhOiglgI/AAAAAAAAAdI/TwVKSjcOgmw/s1600/amazing-fantasy15.jpg

[spida-man]

Agreed, oh and you know something? The complain about the raised webing on Raimi's suit is probably one, if not the most ridiculous of the complains I have ever witnessed on the Internet. I never for a moment believed that was a bad thing when watching the movie on 2002 and only knew it was such an issue for fans on forums. To this day I can not understand what is wrong or ugly about it.



THIS is the best post i've ever seen so far in this multi-part thread discussion about the costumes.
you sir win the highly coveted MARVEL NO PRIZE! for your awesomely amazing post

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm rather happy they changed from black to blue, it looks better with blue
Blue being my favorite color is a reason

[chaseter]

It's always been blue. They just use black to add depth in the comics. It's the same reason why Venom in the comics and cartoons had blue on his costume to show depth. If it was just flat black then it would look one dimensional.

[d.k.]

this production went back...

...to asics.

Yeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hahahahah lol

[Spider-ManHero12]

It's always been blue. They just use black to add depth in the comics. It's the same reason why Venom in the comics and cartoons had blue on his costume to show depth. If it was just flat black then it would look one dimensional. Very true.

[KRIM]

wow, just....wow.

I guess the old adage stands,the more product placement the higher the budget.
It took this long for someone to even make the connection. After we had already dissected set pictures. If this were true product placement, they failed miserably.

And while I'm not a "fan" of the silver lining either, I'm never going to notice them in the film so it is of little consequence to me. The alteration itself is already minimal. Placed in the context of all the action this film is going to have and being located at a place very few people look at, I'd be surprised if I even realized it was there.

[jrd550]

wow..that looks awesome
red and dark blue. the little areas of the lighter blue muscle highlights kinda remind me of my favorite art style for spidey...
where the blue is really mostly black with blue muscle tone outlines. like the front cover of amazing Fantasy 15
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2MQAtQi2AtU/TV1vhOiglgI/AAAAAAAAAdI/TwVKSjcOgmw/s1600/amazing-fantasy15.jpg

Well Said!

[Doctor Who]

wow..that looks awesome
red and dark blue. the little areas of the lighter blue muscle highlights kinda remind me of my favorite art style for spidey...
where the blue is really mostly black with blue muscle tone outlines. like the front cover of amazing Fantasy 15
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2MQAtQi2AtU/TV1vhOiglgI/AAAAAAAAAdI/TwVKSjcOgmw/s1600/amazing-fantasy15.jpg

If only. :csad:

[Galactus123]

http://i53.tinypic.com/zx1n9t.jpg

cool

[Alex_Spider]

Mace Bloodstone i couldn't resist and added armpit web and changed the eyes and gloves like the Ditko one.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2472/spider.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/spider.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[TheWiseGuy487]

http://i53.tinypic.com/zx1n9t.jpg

cool

I really like this manip! Good job!

[Majik1387]

:barf:

[Travesty]

Mace Bloodstone i couldn't resist and added armpit web and changed the eyes and gloves like the Ditko one.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2472/spider.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/spider.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)Ha, that's pretty cool, actually.

[Infinity9999x]

I really like this manip! Good job!

I really like that look as well. I've always been a fan of darker colors on superheroes, and for some reason I've always wanted to see a red and black Spidey. I remember that the original design for the Symbiote was going to have a big red Spider, but they had to nix it because of coloring issues. That would have been awesome though.

The one thing I am a little disappointed on with the new Spidey design is that, since they obviously wanted to go with a new design, that they didn't use the Ben Reily/Spider-girl outfit. The current design reminds me of that look quite a bit, so why not just go the full mile? I was always a fan of that costume.

[ALP]

Some pics of the new suit I like while others completely turn me off.

[Mace Bloodstone]

Do the comics give a reason for the armpit webs?

[Knight Rise]

Do the comics give a reason for the armpit webs?

if im not mistaken, it provided use as a glider in Amazing Spider-Man #8

[I'm Old Greg]

Mace Bloodstone i couldn't resist and added armpit web and changed the eyes and gloves like the Ditko one.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2472/spider.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/spider.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)


that looks Great!:wow:

[Majik1387]

You all are crazy. :o

[DCnightwing23]

Gotta agree with Majik, if i remember correctly people were saying "oh wow with that suit, it looks nothing like spiderman" and "oh wow could it get any worse" and now people are saying that manip posted above is great? For god sake it makes him look like a flying squirrel or something.

[NinjaCarm]

mace bloodstone i couldn't resist and added armpit web and changed the eyes and gloves like the ditko one.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2472/spider.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/spider.jpg/)

uploaded with imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us)

this

[Travesty]

Gotta agree with Majik, if i remember correctly people were saying "oh wow with that suit, it looks nothing like spiderman" and "oh wow could it get any worse" and now people are saying that manip posted above is great? For god sake it makes him look like a flying squirrel or something.
Seeing as how it looks exactly like Spiderman, and nothing like a flying squirrel, I'm having a hard time understanding your point.

[ALP]

Gotta agree with Majik, if i remember correctly people were saying "oh wow with that suit, it looks nothing like spiderman" and "oh wow could it get any worse" and now people are saying that manip posted above is great? For god sake it makes him look like a flying squirrel or something.

Well that's because the fanboys have reached the peaks of desperation. Now that they realize the suit in the film is quite different from the average comic suit they will settle for anything that has white eyes and gloves that are a solid color.

[Majik1387]

I will say, I love the liquid eyeliner look used in the ugly manip.

[Mrpaul]

Cool

[Mrpaul]

Nice stuff

[Super Kal]

i dont think it's too bad... it reminds me of Alex Ross's design with Ditko influence, but would i want to see it on the big screen?... probably not.

i prefer something red and blue, with a web design, and a spider on the chest, and something that stays relatively true to the original design.

[landon]

Mace Bloodstone i couldn't resist and added armpit web and changed the eyes and gloves like the Ditko one.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2472/spider.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/spider.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

AHHH the classic spiderman! Now why the hell they cant use this suit for the movie is beyond me. I mean, YELLOW eyes!? Lets just change superman to a blonde while we are at it.

[Majik1387]

Because that suit's colors are ugly, that is why it's not being used.

[Spanglerart]

Been getting messages of my art showing up here. Guys have been using some of my stuff that is older based off of the Alex Ross costume art but designed by David Williams.
This is the one i did last year:

http://images56.fotki.com/v1600/photos/2/25718/95865/arspidercollageblack1-vi.jpg



This thing is OOOOLLLDDDDDD. Back when i first started sculpting.

http://images36.fotki.com/v1203/photos/2/25718/4823493/ARspiderman024-vi.jpg

Just an FYI.

____________________
Tony Spangler
www.SpanglerArt.com

[Germanspider]

Been getting messages of my art showing up here. Guys have been using some of my stuff that is older based off of the Alex Ross costume art but designed by David Williams.
This is the one i did last year:

http://images56.fotki.com/v1600/photos/2/25718/95865/arspidercollageblack1-vi.jpg



This thing is OOOOLLLDDDDDD. Back when i first started sculpting.

http://images36.fotki.com/v1203/photos/2/25718/4823493/ARspiderman024-vi.jpg

Just an FYI.

____________________
Tony Spangler
www.SpanglerArt.com

Hi Tony,
i really love your statue of the Alex Ross spidey... :)

Nice to see you here...

[Hurm...]

Those are some INCREDIBLE statues, spanglerart. Well done.

But I must say, Spidey in the first one looks like some sort of kinky pornstar.

[Immortalfire]

Mace Bloodstone i couldn't resist and added armpit web and changed the eyes and gloves like the Ditko one.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2472/spider.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/spider.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Gag. Maybe now people will understand why underarm webbing isn't used.

[roach]

http://i53.tinypic.com/zx1n9t.jpg

cool

Police:"Hands up...you'er under arrest for being in a horrible Spider-man costume."

[Immortalfire]

:funny:

[Darkness Falls]

Lol :D

[Doctor Who]

Police:"Hands up...you'er under arrest for being in a horrible Spider-man costume."

Police: Hands in the air!!!

Spiderman: *Dafoe voice* I surrender!!!!

*beats crap out of cops morbid Power Ranger style*

[roach]

"Oh Boy"

[TheWallCrawler]

I wonder how would the black suit look like in this new series...

[Majik1387]

The same way it looks in Ross' art. Ugly as ****.

[Mako]

The same way it looks in Ross' art. Ugly as ****.

:up:

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Thirded. :up:

[El Payaso]

Been getting messages of my art showing up here. Guys have been using some of my stuff that is older based off of the Alex Ross costume art but designed by David Williams.
This is the one i did last year:

http://images56.fotki.com/v1600/photos/2/25718/95865/arspidercollageblack1-vi.jpg



This thing is OOOOLLLDDDDDD. Back when i first started sculpting.

http://images36.fotki.com/v1203/photos/2/25718/4823493/ARspiderman024-vi.jpg

Just an FYI.

____________________
Tony Spangler
www.SpanglerArt.com (http://www.SpanglerArt.com)


It looks great. Specially the shots above. :up:

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

I wonder how would the black suit look like in this new series...

If we're lucky, they'll avoid the whole symbiote thing in this series.

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

The same way it looks in Ross' art. Ugly as ****.

I looked around, but I wasn't able to find an Alex Ross black suit concept. Ugly or not, my curiosity must be satiated. Anybody got a link?

[chaseter]

I have a link...but it's not to what you are wanting. :awesome:

[Doctor Jones]

I like Ross's work but I don't get his mentality for the Spider-Man costume. He really likes the Silver Age and likes to draw the classic looking costumes of the characters. You would think he would do the same when designing to Spider-Man costume?

[Knight Rise]

I like Ross's work but I don't get his mentality for the Spider-Man costume. He really likes the Silver Age and likes to draw the classic looking costumes of the characters. You would think he would do the same when designing to Spider-Man costume?

he does Classic Spidey too

http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/spiderman/Spiderman_by_Alex_Ross.jpg

[hame4479]

Been getting messages of my art showing up here. Guys have been using some of my stuff that is older based off of the Alex Ross costume art but designed by David Williams.
This is the one i did last year:

http://images56.fotki.com/v1600/photos/2/25718/95865/arspidercollageblack1-vi.jpg



This thing is OOOOLLLDDDDDD. Back when i first started sculpting.

http://images36.fotki.com/v1203/photos/2/25718/4823493/ARspiderman024-vi.jpg

Just an FYI.

____________________
Tony Spangler
www.SpanglerArt.com (http://www.SpanglerArt.com)

Wow you have a ridiculous amount of talent. What material do u normally sculpt with.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I just don't understand why Ross didn't like Raimi's Spider-Man costume. He's a fantastic artist, just very picky.

[Knight Rise]

I just don't understand why Ross didn't like Raimi's Spider-Man costume. He's a fantastic artist, just very picky.

hes allowed to have personal opinion :dry:

[Mako]

I looked around, but I wasn't able to find an Alex Ross black suit concept. Ugly or not, my curiosity must be satiated. Anybody got a link?

http://www.alexrossart.com/artforsale.asp?sc=ARSP1

[Mako]

Mace Bloodstone i couldn't resist and added armpit web and changed the eyes and gloves like the Ditko one.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2472/spider.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/spider.jpg/)

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I for one would have loved to see those eyes used.

[Spider-ManHero12]

hes allowed to have personal opinion :dry: I know, I'm just saying that his reasons for hating it are stupid. He said that the only Spider-Man costume is the Ditko/Romita costume. No altering for film, etc. I mean, obivously, you have to adapt it a certain way for film.

[Hotwire]

Been getting messages of my art showing up here. Guys have been using some of my stuff that is older based off of the Alex Ross costume art but designed by David Williams.
This is the one i did last year:

http://images56.fotki.com/v1600/photos/2/25718/95865/arspidercollageblack1-vi.jpg



This thing is OOOOLLLDDDDDD. Back when i first started sculpting.

http://images36.fotki.com/v1203/photos/2/25718/4823493/ARspiderman024-vi.jpg

Just an FYI.

____________________
Tony Spangler
www.SpanglerArt.com (http://www.SpanglerArt.com)
I always thought this was a cool costume. Amazing sculpting skills!

[Spider-ManHero12]

By the way, Soangler, great job on that sculpt. You really are talented!

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

http://www.alexrossart.com/artforsale.asp?sc=ARSP1

Oh, that? Yeah, I've seen that tons of times. When people were talking about the symbiote, and then mentioned Alex Ross' concept for the "black costume," I thought it meant, y'know, the black costume.

[Arach Knight]

I generally like the look of the costume. I appreciate the fact that the designers tried to find some reasonable way to present realistic web shooters without sacrificing the sleekness of the overall look. I am not sure if it is intentional, but I can't help but reminded of Ben Reily's Spidey uniform. The lack of the belt, the blue tips of the fingers. It seems to echo that design

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36089/1120837-sm58_super.png

I am not a fan of the stripe going down the sides of the legs. It reminds me too much of Guy Gardner. I am glad that the eye shields are a bit more narrow. Design wise, they seem to fall somewhere between Ditko and Romita Sr. I have never been a fan of the McFarlene eyes. They work fine for Venom, but always look bizarre on Spidey.

As for the controversy over the boots...I don't mind the running shoe look. Even when I was a child, I never understood how Spidey functioned in a fight, when his boot was really more of a sock. On one hand, it makes sense that if he is to adhere to a surface, he would have to have attire that affords him reasonable contact with a surface. On the other hand, running across gravel roof tops and other rough surfaces, would hurt and be distracting. Also, this isn't the first time I have seen someone use shoes as a design choice for a Spider-Man costume. Hype's very own, Spidey4fun has a costume design that uses water-socks in order to create the boots for his costumes

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Ultimate%20Spidey/Madison5.jpg

It is a bit more practical than running around in socks. Something else that I really like, is the ability to see Garfield's eyes.

http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/spideyonlocation3.jpg

Though the use of ray ban lenses for the Raimi suit were nice aesthetically, I have an easier time believing mesh-like lenses. It would be too costly for a poor teen to replace the lenses of the Raimi suit. I know that is a seemingly ridiculous quibble, considering web shooters would have to cost a fortune, but I suppose that falls in with the suspension of disbelief relating to web shooter technology in general.

[roach]

One of Peter's powers is his ability to withstand damage and heal at an accelerated rate(nothing like wolverine but faster than normal people)
Im sure if Spidey can take a bit from Doc Ock's arms or lift up to ten tons...gravel roofs wouldnt bother him too much

[Ajendo]

The movies and even the "sacred" comics have often been horrendously lax in conveying spidey's powers.

[socool]

The movies and even the "sacred" comics have often been horrendously lax in conveying spidey's powers.

Would it anger you if I said this was the worst post ever? Like, seriously.

How the hell do the "sacred" comics get Spidey wrong?! :doh: The "sacred" comics created Spider-Man. You cant get a character you create wrong.

Herp derp.

[Ajendo]

It wouldn't anger me. However, all it does is highlight that you're clearly new to the world of comic books or most likely you enjoy wasting your own time posting idiotic comments.

The comics have frequently gotten many things wrong on their own characters, major inconsistencies in various aspects, hell at one point the comics couldn't even decide how tall peter is. So before you waste your time and more importantly my time with all your asinine herpin and derpin bullcrap I kindly suggest you actually know what you're talking about before making a fool of yourself.

[socool]

It wouldn't anger me. However, all it does is highlight that you're clearly new to the world of comic books or most likely you enjoy wasting your own time posting idiotic comments.

The comics have frequently gotten many things wrong on their own characters, major inconsistencies in various aspects, hell at one point the comics couldn't even decide how tall peter is. So before you waste your time and more importantly my time with all your asinine herpin and derpin bullcrap I kindly suggest you actually know what you're talking about before making a fool of yourself.

:dry: You don't know what the "sacred" comics are...do you.

The "sacred" comics are the sixties. When Stan Lee was writing.

Thats what everyone wants this movie to mimic, not the new ones. So...

I kindly suggest you actually know what you're talking about before making a fool of yourself.

:awesome:

[ALP]

I know, I'm just saying that his reasons for hating it are stupid. He said that the only Spider-Man costume is the Ditko/Romita costume. No altering for film, etc. I mean, obivously, you have to adapt it a certain way for film.

Has he said he hated it? From what I know, he just refused to paint anything other than the classic suit.

And while I love what he does- his classic spidey suit looks like that old 60s show. If anything, Ross is so realistic that his heroes look like they are draped in cheap store bought fabric.

[Boom]

Mace Bloodstone i couldn't resist and added armpit web and changed the eyes and gloves like the Ditko one.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2472/spider.jpg (http://img845.imageshack.us/i/spider.jpg/)

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Give me this without armpit webbing, and it's perfect.

Thank you for making me hate the new suit even more :up:.

[socool]

Give me this without armpit webbing, and it's perfect.

Thank you for making me hate the new suit even more :up:.

All he did was make the gloves all red and change blue to black. Thats your only problem? :huh:

[Boom]

And he changed the eyes. And I'm guessing the whole point of making these changes was to make it look more like the traditional costume.

So yeah. The little changes make all the difference for me. But I'd also like it with the shade of blue used for the actual suit.

In fact, Alex_Spider, any chance you could change the blue back to the way it was, and remove the armpit webbing?

[socool]

And he changed the eyes. And I'm guessing the whole point of making these changes was to make it look more like the traditional costume.

So yeah. The little changes make all the difference for me. But I'd also like it with the shade of blue used for the actual suit.

In fact, Alex_Spider, any chance you could change the blue back to the way it was, and remove the armpit webbing?

The eyes aren't black...I hope you realize that.

[moe]

Would it anger you if I said this was the worst post ever? Like, seriously.

How the hell do the "sacred" comics get Spidey wrong?! :doh: The "sacred" comics created Spider-Man. You cant get a character you create wrong.

Herp derp.

he never said wrong, he said "lax". and they are.

[Arach Knight]

One of Peter's powers is his ability to withstand damage and heal at an accelerated rate(nothing like wolverine but faster than normal people)
Im sure if Spidey can take a bit from Doc Ock's arms or lift up to ten tons...gravel roofs wouldnt bother him too much

That is always something inconsistent in comic books, save for with Wolverine. Just because a person has high endurance to damage, or the ability to rapidly heal, does not mean they are immune to pain. A punch might hurt more than stepping on a rock, but it still hurts. Not saying that Spider-Man wouldn't just deal with it, but I am saying that it is not so far fetched that somebody would prefer to wear some sort of footwear that has a firm sole. I guess I some what agree, since you said "wouldn't bother him too much."

@Ajendo

Yeah, sometimes Peter struggles to do things that should come with ease. Other times, he is grossly over powered for his character class. I really do miss the days when they used to publish those Marvel RPG guides that gave you in depth stats about character powers and classes. Heck, I even miss those old Fleer Ultra trading cards. I feel like every comic writer should be forced to own a set of Fleer Ultra cards for all of the popular characters. That ways you don't get idiotic things in the books like Red Hulk lifting Mjolnir in space, even though the inability to lift Mjolnir is related to a worthiness enchantment rather than the mass of the object.