The Official FIRST CLASS Sequel Thread

[dude love]

X-Men: FC2 (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/the-sequel-to-x-men-first-class-will-be-heavy-on-the-magneto) to be Magneto's film it appears.

Something like this would be awesome;

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[Zelkar]

^I approve of this.

That was better than the whole first class movie! lol.

[Obsidian Idea]

^I second that with my approval. Excellent!

[marvelrobbins]

Getting buried today In Jennifer Lawrence threads Is news Fox may be having the first Class sequel before the camers this fall.This Is leaking since Jennifer Lawrence could have conflicts over the first Class sequel and second film In Hunger games trilogy.But,I consider word that filming for sequel could beguin this fall to be major news.

[Jake Cassidy]

I think they should get rid of Riptide and Angel and add Avalanche, Blob and Sabretooth to the Brotherhood.

I'd like to see Spiral too.

[marvelrobbins]

Adding Blob and Sabretooth means saying X-Men Origins;Wolverine never happened.
Since Xavier Is already very familar with sabretooth In first X-Men It's not crazy to think
Sabretooth could show up In this trilogy

[Jake Cassidy]

I think they are disregarding X-Men Origins: Wolverine. The Last Stand, too.

Kevin Durand, even though he was Blob, would be an awesome Sabretooth.

[marvelrobbins]

Well people on this board should know I am firm believer In First Class being prequel with some liberties taken to just X-Men and X2.Assuming nothing Is happening with The Wolverine all signs point to It doing all It can to distance Itself to X-Men Origins;Wolverine.The deadpool film Is looking more and more like It Isn't happening so no further need to debate contunity there.On the DVD/Bluray spcial features they mostly reference X-Men and X2 except mentioning how Matthew Vaughn was suspose to do that and many people on that film was brought on by him and explaning that the design for Beast was because Vaughn hated the look of beast used In last Stand.

It Is fairly obvious to me that when Bryan Singer came on he pulled a Superman Returns to The Last Stand and wolverine(Ignoring them like he did Superman III and IV) and considering fans and critics consider First Class as best X-Men film or second best after X2 I think this approach has worked out well.

[Jake Cassidy]

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[Jake Cassidy]

Replace January Jones with Tabrett Bethell. :woot:

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[Jake Cassidy]

Other characters I'd like to see (along with Polaris, Sunfire, Dazzler and Psylocke):

Forge - He's a 'Nam vet, so it'd be easy to incorporate him into the story. He's cool, too.

Cannonball - Classic character. Awesome power.

[marvelrobbins]

Word Is leaking Fox plans to start work In january for the sequel.I think we can count on May 2014 release for sequel.

This could mean first full X-Men film that wasn't rushed.Although It should be noted Wolverine was only film that wasn't rushed and It turned out terrable.But now they are having time to write and prep film.

Jennifer Lawrence will go straight from starting Catching fire In August or September straight to first Class sequel.

[Neo_3]

Word Is leaking Fox plans to start work In january for the sequel.I think we can count on May 2014 release for sequel.

This could mean first full X-Men film that wasn't rushed.Although It should be noted Wolverine was only film that wasn't rushed and It turned out terrable.But now they are having time to write and prep film.

Jennifer Lawrence will go straight from starting Catching fire In August or September straight to first Class sequel.3 CBM's in one month, isn't that overkill? How about July 1st?

[marvelrobbins]

That will be when the the fourth transformers will be coming.

Why should X-men not open for memorial day to let Marvel studios have may for film we don't even now what It will be.Memorial day release would be Ideal for followup to First
Class.The same time the Last Stand came out.

[Neo_3]

That will be when the the fourth transformers will be coming.

Why should X-men not open for memorial day to let Marvel studios have may for film we don't even now what It will be.Memorial day release would be Ideal for followup to First
Class.The same time the Last Stand came out.3 CBM's in one month? Could come out like TF2 the weekend before the 4th on 6/27.

[JP]

If memorial day if free, they better catch it.

Fox's biggest problem is always scheduling release dates. Always waiting till the last minute.

[Neo_3]

Why three in one month, when you have June and July wide open from CBM's?

[marvelrobbins]

Why should X-Men give up May so Marvel can have Ant-Man or DR Strange In May.
Make then make room.Besides July will be all about Transformers.

[Neo_3]

Why should X-Men give up May so Marvel can have Ant-Man or DR Strange In May.
Make then make room.Besides July will be all about Transformers.What? July 2011 had TFIII/DHII so 2 big tentpoles can be in one month. FC is not like Iron Man that has always been in May, X-Men has jumped from May, June and July. With a June 3rd for the last and Wolverine with a late July date. If TASM movies (which I highly doubt) or MU#1 moves this won't happen. We haven't reached the point for 3 major CBM's in one month.

[MessiahDecoy123]

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Who is that guy? He has evil as hell eyes.

[marvelrobbins]

X-Men will be fourth of July because that Is Transformers slot.It can use a big holiday time to Increase domestic gross.

The Amazing Spider-Man hasn't even opened yet so we don't know how audences will react to this quick reboot.To make the may 2014 release they will have to start fairly
quick.They still don't have an annouced director while Matthew Vaughn Is already committed to sequel,and he and Jane Goldman are already starting work on rewriting.
As for other marvel studios film.we still don't know what It will be.The first Class sequel begins filming in January,and It will likely wrap In June.

[Neo_3]

Well TASM2 has a date set, that trumps everything else, we just what happened with FC2/FC2. Wrapping in June? Why does that equal a May date? Well we saw they just announced CA2, couldn't MU1 be today or tomorrow? Why does having a director matter? CF is going forward without Ross.

Why does FC2 have to open in May?

[marvelrobbins]

Why should a second marvel studios film which hasn't even been announced what It Is cause X-Men to lose chance at being released In the memorial Day slot.Transformers will have the 4th of July slot.

[Neo_3]

It has been announced that why it has that date. Again, why is it so important for that May release?

[Majik1387]

Is it possible we can avoid fancasting in this thread please?

[JP]

Please and thank you.

[Hellion]

I think they should get rid of Riptide and Angel and add Avalanche, Blob and Sabretooth to the Brotherhood.

I'd like to see Spiral too.

Spiral is one of my favorite character...as far as film goes, I don't see her being anything more than a henchwoman (along the lines of Deathstrike in X2)...I think she could be visually interesting as well...

[Angamb]

Is it possible we can avoid fancasting in this thread please?

we can create a new topic for it, would be nice if someone else appart from me does it, cause Im the one with more topics on the First Class board :woot:

[Shifty]

Could they also be getting the First Class sequel ready just in case The Wolverine doesn't get rolling?

July 2014 with nothing penciled in would be perfect because there is a chance Christopher Nolan will have another film from WB for that month so they might as well take whatever real estate they can. Plus Catching Fire would have already been on BluRay.

[Alexei Belyakov]

Could they also be getting the First Class sequel ready just in case The Wolverine doesn't get rolling?

July 2014 with nothing penciled in would be perfect because there is a chance Christopher Nolan will have another film from WB for that month so they might as well take whatever real estate they can. Plus Catching Fire would have already been on BluRay.

Both films are underway. Same goes for Fantastic Four & Daredevil.

Origins began shooting January of 2008 and was released May of '09. That'll be the case for the First Class sequel.

With Mangold's film, they'll have less time since they need to make the the July 26th release date, so it'll be a more similar shoot to First Class' except The Wolverine's a crime drama & should require alot less CGI & work in Post.

Overall, what FOX has in store for us over the next couple of years look pretty good :yay:

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[Neo_3]

Could they also be getting the First Class sequel ready just in case The Wolverine doesn't get rolling?

July 2014 with nothing penciled in would be perfect because there is a chance Christopher Nolan will have another film from WB for that month so they might as well take whatever real estate they can. Plus Catching Fire would have already been on BluRay.Having a Nolan movie in July wouldn't change the matter, FC2 could still come out in July.

[Majik1387]

That's kind of an awesome grid. :up:

[Alexei Belyakov]

That's kind of an awesome grid. :up:

Thanks :yay: I just tweaked it after hearing the Cap 2, Avengers 2 & First Class sequel announcements.

I also removed the Ghost Rider 3 slot I had in 2015, because after the BO for GR2, I just don't see it happening.

[Majik1387]

lol I wouldn't count out GR3. I mean did anyone think that GR2 would really happen?

[Angamb]

Could they also be getting the First Class sequel ready just in case The Wolverine doesn't get rolling?

one could guess that's their plan.

it feels like they are more interested in the First Class trilogy than Wolverine right now.

I understand it, since Michael and Jennifer are getting a bigger name day after day and First Class could give them more sequels and money than just another Wolverine movie.

[Majik1387]

I don't expect anything from The Wolverine until Les Miserables gets farther in production.

[Alexei Belyakov]

lol I wouldn't count out GR3. I mean did anyone think that GR2 would really happen?

Good point :cwink:

one could guess that's their plan.

it feels like they are more interested in the First Class trilogy than Wolverine right now.

I understand it, since Michael and Jennifer are getting a bigger name day after day and First Class could give them more sequels and money than just another Wolverine movie.

Let's not forget that the last Wolverine film made the studio more money than First Class.

They're definitely gonna pursue both franchises with great enthusiasm. Same goes for Planet of The Apes & Avatar.

[Angamb]

but First Class did more than Wolverine internationally.

Wait for the sequel numbers, it will be even bigger.

[Shifty]

Both films are underway. Same goes for Fantastic Four & Daredevil.

Origins began shooting January of 2008 and was released May of '09. That'll be the case for the First Class sequel.


Well there was articles about how Fox was going to film the FC sequel in the fall which would conflict with Catching Fire and Lionsgate would have to wait but now Fox is going with January to film. The only reason to film this fall is to have it ready for next summer but it looks like The Wolverine seems to be progressing.

[Alexei Belyakov]

but First Class did more than Wolverine internationally.

$14 Million isn't exactly something you'd wanna write home about. $33.5 Million on the other hand, that's a number that stands out.

Wait for the sequel numbers, it will be even bigger.

I'm sure, but don't be shocked if The Wolverine's numbers are even bigger. I watched First Class several times in theatres and the strongest cheer from the crowd came during the Wolverine cameo.

[Angamb]

well, XO: Wolverine was the fourth movie with Hugh Jackman, a big star already, while First Class is the first x-men movie with a whole new cast, so we cant expect the same audience.

But taking into account final numbers (worldwide) of both movies, we can say that the general audience is interested in a Wolverine movie and an X-men one with a different team more or less in the same way.

And about final numbers of next sequels, we can only wait and see what happens.

As long as we get a new x-men trilogy, Im happy.

[magneto23]

I have a question for knowledgeable X-Men fans who know all there is to know about this universe. Which characters are the most likely candidates to be the main villain for this sequel? I don't remember exactly where I read it but I do remember reading that they need a bad guy who could face off with Magneto. So that makes me think a villain like shadow king, and his telepathic powers, should be scratched off the list of potential options because he is a character that would face off against Charles over Magneto. And lets just, for arguments sake, exclude Apocalypse and Sinister(the name brought up most) and the sentinels(which wouldn't match the time period IMO). Who does that leave? Omega Red???

[Shifty]

well, XO: Wolverine was the fourth movie with Hugh Jackman, a big star already, while First Class is the first x-men movie with a whole new cast, so we cant expect the same audience.

But taking into account final numbers (worldwide) of both movies, we can say that the general audience is interested in a Wolverine movie and an X-men one with a different team more or less in the same way.

And about final numbers of next sequels, we can only wait and see what happens.

As long as we get a new x-men trilogy, Im happy.

Both only turned profits once the Blu-Rays came out and the pay TV/cable TV deals were done. Fox is only making them to keep the rights and the sequels have potential to turn a profit. After marketing costs and giving revenue to theatre chains Fox had a small loss.

[Angamb]

They knew what they were doing with First Class, at least they now know it.

They have a great cast, and recovered Matthew and Singler, so after the great critics of this prequel, they probably expect a bigger boxoffice with the sequel and even more with the last of the trilogy.

They are smart, they will make a pretty decent profit with this new cast/trilogy.

[Cagefighterkip]

With the flick lookin' to shoot between January and June next year, I assume summer of 2014 is a go. Man, with THE WOLVERINE hitting July 2013, the next couple years are gonna be good to be an X-Fan!

[TheVelvetOnion]

The Wolverine movie will need to be a completly different tone and not dumbed down because of some kid friendly rating.

You know what id do, I would have deadpool back... wait hear me out!

The Wolverine is set in Japan, thats brilliant but it would be awesome to have the Deadpool we have from the comics, the merc with the mouth. Sort of tracking wolverine.

Think about it, Deadpools costume in the comics is not that far off ninja like. and hes a mercenary.

[TheVelvetOnion]

I was reading one of the x-men comics recently X-Men Legacy - where Xavier was shot in the head and had to relieve his past in order to regain his memory. That struggle and just the dialogue made me think about this movie.

Its exactly what you need for the sequel to first class.

Charles Xavier has been crippled by his best friend who is now on the run. after reliving the highlights of his life he then teams up with magneto to escape and starts looking at his past where he discovers he was manuplated by Mr.Sinister. Now there is a story.

Mr.Sinister - and his involvement in manipulating the lives of charles xavier and eric lenshire.

[Cherry]

Mr.Sinister - and his involvement in manipulating the lives of charles xavier and eric lenshire.

YES! Sinister absolutely has to be the next villain.

[Majik1387]

**** Sinister. Way too early to use him.

[Jordacar]

**** Sinister. Way too early to use him.:dry:

Explain.

[JP]

Sinister without Cyclops and Jean is no fun at all... which means they'll probably use him in the sequel. :dry:

[conan69]

X-Men: FC2 (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/the-sequel-to-x-men-first-class-will-be-heavy-on-the-magneto) to be Magneto's film it appears.Endless things to use in a vast X-Men history and we're going to get a film that centers on Magneto.:(

Its frustrating to see Wolverine and Magneto hog up their films. Why not make a Magneto film if thats who you want to concentrate on.

[Cherry]

Sinister without Cyclops and Jean is no fun at all... which means they'll probably use him in the sequel. :dry:

I'd tend to agree, but I've been wanting to see Sinister in live-action for a long time. He does have history with Havok too, after all.

[Raiden]

Endless things to use in a vast X-Men history and we're going to get a film that centers on Magneto.:(

Its frustrating to see Wolverine and Magneto hog up their films. Why not make a Magneto film if thats who you want to concentrate on.

Michael Fassbender is now one of my favorite actors and his performance as Magneto in FC was one of the best things about the movie. However, I thought Xavier will get the bulk of the development in FC2 due to the transition he has to make from a charming young man to a crippled mentor of the X-Men, so it would make sense to focus on his challenges building his school in the sequel. But if it wasn't Fassbender playing Magneto, then I'd be let-down by this news.

I wonder if Magneto and his Brotherhood will be the primary villains in FC2.

[psylockolussus]

I think its time for Fox to use Mr. Sinister. And I really hope they shoot this sequel next year of January because that means Fox will release the movie earlier!

[Hawkingbird]

Sinister without Cyclops and Jean is no fun at all... which means they'll probably use him in the sequel. :dry:

I'd agree with you there. Would Apocalypse be too much of a task?

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Wouldn't surpirse me if Magneto became the new Wolverine. Fassbender's getting more popular and his Magneto was ****ing boss.

[Avenger]

Yeah, I expect Magneto to be featured quite heavily in future films.

I know that TPTB probably won't want to retread old ground and base the plot of FC2 around another historical event, but I was browsing through Wikipedia earlier and read about the Zanzibar Revolution which took place in 1964. I got to thinking maybe they could use that as a loose basis for a plot, but replace Zanzibar with Genosha and have the mutant population rebelling against their non-mutant overlords. Erik could be helping (or even leading) the rebels while Charles just wants to try and find a peaceful resolution to the conflict. What do you guys think?

[Majik1387]

It is way too soon to even start thinking of Genosha.

[marvelrobbins]

First off the general public needs to become aware of mutants.

[Avenger]

Yeah, true. Like I said, it was just an idea that came to me while I was reading.

[henzINNIT]

They need to drop Angel and Riptide imo. They are one-shot characters to me. I imagine Azael will stay, for his obvious unfinished business and the actor's relationship with Vasughn.

Magneto's line-up looks pretty good to me as Him, Mystique, Azazel and Frost.

[psylockolussus]

They really should drop those two! I want to see new and interesting villains and with Angel Salvadore and Riptide gone, they wouldn't feel like a waste of space.

[Majik1387]

I don't see the need to drop them.

[Pificus]

I see potential in Riptide, he was just too underdeveloped in First Class. They should drop Angel though.

[def28]

Riptide and Angel arent needed. Riptide was litteraly there to take out a submarine and a few boats. Magneto can do that now. The guy had zero lines, he brings nothing. Unless there is an awesome match up with him vs another mutant who has good contrasting powers I see no reason why he should stay.

[Majik1387]

Because Magneto needs lackeys.

[henzINNIT]

He doesn't need that many.

[def28]

I think they just suck, switch em out with better characters if more are needed. Look at how Riptide did in a fight, Havok took him out in a half a second. They wont have use for either of them. Emma, Azazel and Mystique should take up most screen time/character focus and also can own the X Men as is. As well Magneto by himself. I guess Riptide and Angel are the only ones team X can handle right now. Maybe the they should stay so the X men dont look like they get their asses handed to them.

[Majik1387]

Or maybe Magneto will have Riptide and Angel go for different X-Men this time around. :huh:

This unwarranted distaste for them is getting annoying.

[def28]

Unwarranted? They didnt do anything and were kind of lame. Riptide is a visual effects prop, nothing more. Why should they stay and take up screen time?

[Majik1387]

Because there's no need to replace them; like the rest of the characters from First Class, they can grow/learn. If either of them die because it fits the story then fine, but all this out of nowhere distaste for them is kind of stupid.

[def28]

I dont think it would effect the movie in any form. I thought they hurt the film personally. Its not out of nowhere. Most have disliked or complained about those characters in some way since the film opened. Its nothing new.
It is way too soon to even start thinking of Genosha.
First off the general public needs to become aware of mutants.
Agreed.

Im looking forward to the public finding out about mutants for the first time. That should set the tone darker then FC1.

[Majik1387]

I've seen more complaints about Emma Frost than I have of Angel and Riptide.

[marvelrobbins]

Angel was simply there so someone would defect to Hellfire club.Just like darwin was there so a X-Men could die.

Mystique,Emma,and Azarel could work as Magneto's followers.Add Polaris as new X-Man and this could work well.

I am hoping for a showdown In public between X-Men VS Brotherhood which Is how public becomes aware of mutants.

[def28]

I've seen more complaints about Emma Frost than I have of Angel and Riptide.

I wouldnt say more but Ive seen alot for her too, most her complaints are because of the January Jones acting.

I think the difference is everyone wants to see Emma.

[Majik1387]

I wanna see Emma of course, but I'd also like to see more Riptide and see his separation from the Brotherhood to later on join the Marauders in a future movie storyline.

As for Angel, I honestly wouldn't mind if she died. Not because she was useless or her spit power looked lame or the actress Zoe; I just never cared much for her character from the comics, maybe that's why I was ok with her in First Class, because it was a deviation from comic Angel.

[def28]

I wanna see Emma of course, but I'd also like to see more Riptide and see his separation from the Brotherhood to later on join the Marauders in a future movie storyline.
If the plan was to actually do something with the character and move him into other storylines, then I would have no problem with keeping him around. Just using him as a tool to move objects like he did in FC is why I think he should be ditched. Id rather see better match ups for mutant fights. Thats my main problem with FC, the fights were just really underwhelming to me. The choice of having Angel and Riptide are partially responsible for that.

[psylockolussus]

I wouldnt say more but Ive seen alot for her too, most her complaints are because of the January Jones acting.

I think the difference is everyone wants to see Emma.

Yeah the complaints were about January Jones' acting and not her role in the movie. Emma Frost got decent amount of screentime despite not being in the climax scene.

[Dugath]

To me Emma is suppose to be drop dead gorgeous (xxx hot) with a sophisticated edge to her. (Might get some flack for this) but January Jones to me is not that much of a looker, in fact I think she is average at best and I couldn't never get into (believe) her as Emma.

First Class to me was X-men Origins: Magneto (with some random Mutants thrown in for X-men so they could market it more as X-men and not a Magneto movie)

That being said I did not like the fact they included some well known Characters given the "time" 1962, this was taking place in. (Emma, Havok..ect)

Now any sequels IMO are forced into a time (70's 80's at most) frame as to advance the movie to a 2000 time setting you slapping a 40 year difference.. making Emma a 60 year old woman, Havok and Beast in their 50's.. ect more or less making it impossible for them to be in the movies

Now i don't mind "period" movies but I wouldn't mind them taking place in the modern era.

I suppose it wouldn't bother anyone who never read any of the comics.

[Phoenix_Flare]

After seeing the Avengers, and how awesome it was the X-Men series really needs to step it up! All the X-men need to be developed and fleshed out, and have equal amounts of screen time and the scope needs to be big! we have yet to see how mutants/Magneto pose as a huge threat to the government...Genosha/sentinels def. needs to be used as storyline if they want an epic movie...people are def. going to compare any future X-men film w/the Avengers and how epic it was...

[daderade]

introduce more X-Men(obviously) have a BIG FIGHT with the Sentinels, and brotherhood(afterwards)

[psylockolussus]

After seeing the Avengers, and how awesome it was the X-Men series really needs to step it up! All the X-men need to be developed and fleshed out, and have equal amounts of screen time and the scope needs to be big! we have yet to see how mutants/Magneto pose as a huge threat to the government...Genosha/sentinels def. needs to be used as storyline if they want an epic movie...people are def. going to compare any future X-men film w/the Avengers and how epic it was...

I'm sure Matthew Vaughn and Jane Goldman will step it up if they saw the Avengers! :woot:

[Lord]

Shouldn't this thread be renamed and put on the Days of Future Past section?