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Angamb
02-17-2011, 01:31 PM
We needed it.
So let's discuss!
:woot:
Alexei Belyakov
02-17-2011, 04:52 PM
I want Shadow King and Sinister. But not at the same time, one or the other. The Mutant Massacre storyline would be great.
Shadow King, and erik is still a friend of charles and they both learn the new x-men.
Hellion
02-18-2011, 07:29 PM
I haven't heard it mentioned in any of the First Class boards, but if they do a sequel, which I hope and introduce Scott (eventually they will) would anyone mind the actor who portrayed Scott in X-Men Origins: Wolverine...
...I think the actor at least looked the part okay...
marvelrobbins
02-20-2011, 04:48 PM
The first Class sequel will probally jumped to point Cyclops and Jean come In.
We may get Beast and banshee back with Xavier.
As for villians will we see more of Hellfire club.have earlier verison of Brotherhood.
Shadow King.mr Sinster.
X-Men: First Class 2 (Roughly 20 years later)
X-Men:
Xavier
Cyclops
Jean
Storm
Beast
Allies:
Moira
Banshee
Forge
Brotherhood:
Magneto
Mystique
Villains:
Sinister
Emma
Gambit
Alexei Belyakov
02-24-2011, 06:09 PM
X-Men: First Class 2 (Roughly 20 years later)
I'm hoping they'll call it "Second Class" because I really like your line-up below.
X-Men:
Xavier
Cyclops
Jean
Storm
Beast
Allies:
Moira
Banshee
Forge
I say lose Forge since you're bringing in [the much more appealing] Gambit.
Brotherhood:
Magneto
Mystique
I don't want Erik and Raven back. We've seen too much of these people and First Class is looking like an indirect Magneto Origins picture anyway.
Villains:
Sinister
Emma
Gambit
I would LOVE to see Sinister come in and hopefully The Nasty Boys along with him to make a good mirror effect to the X-Men. Would make for a great 5 on 5 streetfight on a beach in the South Pacific :woot:
Any ideas for who should play Essex?
This guy looks the part
http://i54.tinypic.com/ieqfj7.jpg
I say lose Forge since you're bringing in [the much more appealing] Gambit.
I like the idea of using Forge, not as an actual team member, but as more of an ally. The person they go to for gadgets and things. Having Moira, Banshee, and Forge on Moir Island providing the X-Men with the resources they need is a nifty idea, I think.
I don't want Erik and Raven back. We've seen too much of these people and First Class is looking like an indirect Magneto Origins picture anyway.
My favorite use of the two in the movie verse is their inclusion in X2. Not as the direct bad guys, but more of "another take". If Essex is the villain, we'd see how the X-Men get involved and deal with things, but I love seeing Magneto's side of things.
Angamb
02-27-2011, 06:53 AM
I hope the sequel gives the fans what they want, with Scott, Jean and Ororo.
But my main worry is:
If Scott and co. appears in the 80's (20 years after FC) Will they recast all the actors to play older versions?
:huh:
Xavier and Banshee, for example, cant look the same as FC 20 years later....
insane polaris
03-02-2011, 06:27 AM
In a First Class Sequel I would like to see...
- A heavily pregnant Mystique
- Brotherhood (Magneto, Mystique, Emma Frost, maybe Gambit or Avalanche)
- X-men (Xavier, Beast, Havok, Banshee, Psylocke (they could pull an Emma Silverfox on her)
Angamb
03-02-2011, 10:00 AM
I think First Class 2 would start with Kurt already bornt.
Maybe they will do a flashback with Mystique having him and leaving Kurt....
but who knows?.... maybe it starts a few months after the end of FC.
marvelrobbins
03-06-2011, 07:21 PM
If The Last Stand Is still In Cannon Jean In sequel would have to take Into account the Jean at begining of Last Stand.If Vaughn returns as Director with SInger as Producer they defently won't want to call attention to Phoenix at all.
One advantage If they would Ignore both Wolverine and Last Stand were to have their
own Introductuons to Cyclops and Jean to Xavier and coming to the school.
Alexei Belyakov
03-07-2011, 04:07 PM
Alright guys, instead of starting a bunch of casting threads for unconfirmed villains in this [potential] sequel, let's throw out some casting ideas for our desired villains here.
Mr. Sinister
http://i56.tinypic.com/ortqhk.jpg
I was kinda glad that Jon didn't end up playing Superman. I always wanted him for Essex.
Cherry
03-07-2011, 05:12 PM
Oh, I could definitely see him as Mr. Sinister! And Michael Clarke Duncan as Apocalypse.
henzINNIT
03-07-2011, 06:09 PM
I don't want to sound like a dick, but you've posted that casting choice already... 6 posts earlier lol
Angamb
03-08-2011, 04:50 PM
he would be nice, yeah.
and the film could get some viewers from Mad men, lol
psylockolussus
03-16-2011, 07:20 AM
X-Men: Second Class
X-Men
Professor X
Banshee
Havok
Emma Frost
Forge
Thunderbird
Villains aka the Hellfire Club
Magneto
Sebastian Shaw
Mystique
Selene
Avalanche
X-Men: Third Class
X-Men
Professor X
Banshee
Havok
Emma Frost
Thunderbird
Sunfire
Polaris
Villains aka the Hellfire Club
Magneto
Sebastian Shaw
Mystique
Selene
Quicksilver
Scarlet Witch
Cameo (end credits)
Apocalypse (for X-Men 4)
20 years later montage scene of Third Class
-The scene in Wolverine where Professor X rescued Cyclops
-The scene at the star of X3 where Magneto & Professor X (assuming they became friends again) recruiting Jean Grey
-Young Iceman
-Young Colossus
-Young Shadowcat
-Teenager Storm
-Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Rogue joins the X-Men
Angamb
03-16-2011, 11:53 AM
If we accept the first trilogy was set in the present day (since year 2000)
I hope the possible new trilogy isnt just set on the 60's.
The new trilogy should developt the past of the x-men between the 60's and the 80's, at least.
marvelrobbins
03-16-2011, 12:03 PM
Second class will probally jump several years ahead.First Class seems to be not a class but a covert team set up by government.Second class will be when Xavier actully opens
a school when the world Is more aware of mutants.Cyclops and Jean will be brought Into
second class.The ending of First Class will Impact who will be In Second Class.Will
Darwin,Angel,and Havoc survie First Class.
Will Magneto start a early version of brotherhood?Will Hellfire Club be featured? Kevin bacon mentioned he Is signed for sequel but doesn't know If they have future plans for him.
I could see sceniro with Mr Sinster as Villian for second class with Apocalypse as villian for third film.Perhapes Magneto Is absent In Second class but hima nd Mystique return for third film.
I could see them hold off Storm till third film.
Angamb
03-16-2011, 12:24 PM
Im having serious doubt about Second Class including Scott, Jean and Ororo.
January said she is signed for two more movies, probably the same with the main cast.
But if Scott, Jean and Ororo are introduced, it would be around late 70's/mid 80's.
So Emma, Xavier, Magneto and the rest should all look 10 years older.
And I really doubt Fox would make all the actors to look 10 years older, or even recasting the whole cast.
This is a hard issue.
Im afraid they will continue with the 60's set. :(
marvelrobbins
03-16-2011, 01:12 PM
Bryan Singer has said they used the 60's setting because he felt they needed to do Xavier and Magneto's story before getting to the true first Class.
While I could be wrong how much more could they do In the 60's.They are limited by being a prequel,which bryan confirmed yet again today,on which characters they can use
and just because actors are signed doen't mean they will return.Tyler Mane,Ray Park,Kelly Hu,Alan Cumming,and the actors for the Last Stand were signed for more but weren't used.
Angamb
03-16-2011, 06:05 PM
I know.
But it seems Fox wants a new trilogy with this cast.
So.... will James and Michael play Charles and Erik on the 60's again? will they play them with an older look? or will they be recasted?
I highly doubt Fox wants to change the cast totally for the sequel. They probably want the audience to get familiar with these new faces during the next years.
def28
03-17-2011, 12:47 AM
Since FC is a confirmed prequel they are gonna have to cut corners with continuity leading up to X1 if they decide to use Cyc and crew. Should have been a reboot since this is a planned trilogy. I hate how they can just choose aspects from the films to keep and ditch the others. Its a mess to make sense of it and pointless. Regardless FC looks great and I hope they have a few surprises on where a sequel is headed.
psylockolussus
03-18-2011, 04:03 AM
Im having serious doubt about Second Class including Scott, Jean and Ororo.
January said she is signed for two more movies, probably the same with the main cast.
But if Scott, Jean and Ororo are introduced, it would be around late 70's/mid 80's.
So Emma, Xavier, Magneto and the rest should all look 10 years older.
And I really doubt Fox would make all the actors to look 10 years older, or even recasting the whole cast.
This is a hard issue.
Im afraid they will continue with the 60's set. :(
I think its very obvious that they will make a X-Men Second Class with James McCoy and not Patrick Stewart.
I just don't see Jean, Cyclops and Storm being in any of this "first class" series. Well I can imagine them having a cameo when they were still a kid but as teenagers, nope.
Angamb
03-18-2011, 06:00 PM
yes, James will play Charles again, that's for sure. the same with Michael, January and Kevin.
I had a thought some days ago..
what if this new trilogy works this way?
Xmen First Class: set in the 60's
Xmen Second Class: in the 70's
Xmen Third Class: in the 80's
This way, the new trilogy would tell all the story of the x-men, since the 60's to the present day, with X3.
It would be interesting, without doubt. If you decide to do a trilogy about the past of the x-men, it should tell all the past of the team, not just their experience in the 60's. Three movies set in the 60's is too much, I think. It would be a big wasted opportunity.
marvelrobbins
03-18-2011, 07:01 PM
Well one question Is If Xavier and Magneto fall out In First Class will Magneto be setting up early version of Brotherhood In the other parts of trilogy?
Will Hellfire club continue as villians through the trilogy?If not still possable for Emma Frost to show up In early version of brotherhood.
You could have Mr Sinster as villian In second part of trilogy with magneto and early version of Brotherhood In Trilogy Conclusion.
If Xavier Is Indeed crippled In First Class Angel could be with Cyclops and Jean In Second Class and Storm Introduced In Third Class.With any other X-Men Not Yet Used In films as students as well.If they as suspected Ignore Last Stand and Wolverine we could see Psylocke and Gambit In Third Class.
insane polaris
03-18-2011, 07:08 PM
Xmen First Class: set in the 60's
Xmen Second Class: in the 70's
Xmen Third Class: in the 80's
I thought this as well. And introduce Cyclops etc. gradually.
Second Class
X-men are Xavier, Beast, Havok, Banshee, Moria, Psylocke/Polaris(Maybe?)
Have a brief cameo by a singing Dazzler in a 1970s bar. (Maybe she can cause some sort accident, by accidently turning Banshee scream into enormous light)
Xavier opens the Mansion as a School.
Bring in Cyclops and Jean as young students. (Like how Rogue and Bobby were in X1)
Brotherhood consist of Magneto, Emma Frost, Mystique and Toad (Toad vs Beast).
I cant think of a main villain.
Third Class
X-men - Xavier, Beast, Cyclops, Jean,
Muir Island - Moira, Banshee, Havok, Storm (Joins Xavier's Mid way through, to form Beast, Cyclops, Jean, Storm.)
Angamb
03-18-2011, 08:31 PM
I think it would be cool to introduce Scott, Jean and Storm on the same sequel.
Much more exciting, for the fans of the comics and for the fans of the main trilogy, specially X1.
henzINNIT
03-18-2011, 09:56 PM
I don't want them to get hung up on a trilogy tbh. I'd like one, good sequel introducing Scott, Jean & Storm. Jump ahead to the 80's.
psyonic
03-18-2011, 11:08 PM
Someone hypothesized that Emma will be captured by the CIA in First Class and Magneto will break her out at the end, maybe she will join his Brotherhood along with Mystique for future sequels?
I remember the January Jones interview, she said that Emma is "on the side of mutants" so maybe this is true?
Angamb
03-19-2011, 07:15 AM
I hope Emma is more on her own side.
I dont like the idea of all the main villains working with Magneto, like he was the center of the world.
Jean in X3, Hellfire Club on First Class....
marvelrobbins
03-19-2011, 09:43 AM
The Ending of first Class could have magneto In closer to classic costume burst Emma Frost from CIA custody.
X-Men:Second Class could have Sinster as Villian with other mutants from
comics as henchmen.having Sinster as villian and Introducing Cyclops Into
trilogy would be Ideal.
X-Men:Third Class could Reintroduce Magneto and the first version of the
Brotherhood of Emma,Mystique,Sabrettoth possibly Toad and Blob and at
least 1 other mutant.
def28
03-21-2011, 04:59 PM
I hope Emma is more on her own side.
I dont like the idea of all the main villains working with Magneto, like he was the center of the world.
Jean in X3, Hellfire Club on First Class....
Yeah Emma is the most interesting when she has her own agenda. Shes not really the follower type. Hope they have her join the X crew sooner then later.
psylockolussus
03-22-2011, 12:56 AM
I hope Emma become an X-Men in the end of First Class. Then a full-time X-Men member in Second Class.
Angamb
03-22-2011, 06:50 AM
Id preffer if she joins the X-men later in the sequels.
Right now is too soon. She is amazing as a villain, so let her be a good villain during two sequels at least.
marvelrobbins
03-28-2011, 11:19 AM
Rose bRyne In Interview revealed all of the First Class actors had to sign 3 film contracts.So we could be seeing the cast through this trilogy.They want to avoid renegorating with any actors for a third film as they did with The Last Stand.
Now this doesn't mean they will all be used for all three films.But they are committed If
their characters are used for trilogy.
marvelrobbins
04-13-2011, 10:37 AM
Matthew Vaughn has said he would like the sequel to be set In late 1960's so other 60's elements not used for first class
Bryan Singer has confirmed they are taling about having the next 2 parts of first class trilogy In 1970's and 1980's
James Mcavoy has siad he would like the second film to be Xavier getting himself out of trouble while the third film hoping that Is when Xavier becomes
the Patrick Stewart Xavier
Angamb
04-13-2011, 11:33 AM
I hope Fox like the Bryan idea more.
To watch the evolution of the x-men since the 60's to the 80's would be a really great experience, in my opinion.
Angamb
04-23-2011, 05:54 AM
Ok, Ive searched the birth of the older x-mens from the original trilogy, to have an idea of when they could appear in the First Class trilogy, so here it is:
Kelsey Grammer: 1955
Famke Jannssen: 1964
Halle Berry: 1966
Hugh Jackman: 1968
James Marsden: 1973
Conclussions:
- We should assume that Jean, Storm and Scott were born in the 60's. James was really born in 1973, but they'll probably fit him in the 60's too, so he wouldnt be much younger than the others in a First Class sequel.
- If Fox, Singer and Vaughn decide to use these characters around the same age as Mystique, Beast, Havok, Banshee and co., the actors that will portray Jean, Scott and Ororo could have between 15-20 years, so that would put them in the 80's sequel, between 1981-1986.
- So Jennifer, Nicholas, Lucas and Caleb should look like 20 years older than the actors portraying Jean, Scott and Ororo.
My opinion:
I think, for the 80's sequel, it would be better to cast actors much younger than Jennifer, Nicholas Hoult, Caleb and Lucas Till are right now, so the age difference between them would be more appreciated.
If they keep the three years frame between each sequel, like with the original trilogy, Jennifer, Nicholas, Lucas and Caleb would have 26-28 years.
So it would be better to cast actors with 15 years, not more, so Havok, Banshee and Beast will look much older than Jean, Scott and Ororo.
What do you think?
Spider-Fan83
04-23-2011, 04:26 PM
I think, for the 80's sequel, it would be better to cast actors much younger than Jennifer, Nicholas Hoult, Caleb and Lucas Till are right now, so the age difference between them would be more appreciated.
If they keep the three years frame between each sequel, like with the original trilogy, Jennifer, Nicholas, Lucas and Caleb would have 26-28 years.
So it would be better to cast actors with 15 years, not more, so Havok, Banshee and Beast will look much older than Jean, Scott and Ororo.
What do you think?
if they make a movie set in the 80's and the characters from first class are still around, that’s like 20+ years later, they would have to age them quite a bit (with make up, and stuff) , anyway... assuming they even keep the same actors/actresses... I'd think if its set 20 years later, they'd probably just recast them, with older actors
Angamb
04-23-2011, 05:56 PM
I really doubt Fox recast the whole cast again. the audience would be very confused with a whole new cast again, and it would be the third cast in the same franchise.
Fox has signed this new cast to keep them for the new trilogy, at least.
So the better option would be to release each sequel three years after the previous one, at the very least, so the cast would look a bit older, and for the last sequel, appart from being much older than in First Class, they could aged them with the make up, as you said.
In the case of James and Michael, that wouldnt be a big problem, since Charles will be bald already, and Eric can have white hair.
The main problem is with the young actors, specially Lucas and Caleb, the two x-men with a human look.
Taking all of this into account, I see it this way:
2011: First Class
2014: Second Class
2017: Third Class
By 2017, the actors would look 6 years older than in First Class. 6 years is not a long difference, yes, but having a good make-up departament it could work.
Spider-Fan83
04-27-2011, 11:01 AM
I guess, if it happens as you suggest, where its a gradual transition between movies… my idea of them needing to recast, was more based on the idea of (as some people have suggested and speculated at) the next movie jump ahead to the 80’s, I mean, seeing the characters age 25 years over night (or even a few years) seemed a bite extreme…. But, if it is in fact over the course of 6-7 years , with maybe the next being set in the 70’s, an featuring this cast as adults (with a mixed of their own natural aging and make up effects) and then finally going to the 80’s with the third, with the cast, again, looking older still…
It could possibly be do-able …
But, my main point was… with the use of make up effects, to age them… it wouldn’t really be necessary to limit the casting of the new characters to have to be much younger themselves, to enhance the appearance of the others
Angamb
04-27-2011, 11:17 AM
Its clear that youngers actors would make a bigger difference with the older ones.
I was talking from a personal taste, I suppose, but who knows what they'll do....
I just want to see a decent age difference between Banshee, Havok, Beast and Jean, Scott and Ororo.
Spider-Fan83
04-27-2011, 03:50 PM
oh, definitely...
I am personally not a big fan of seeing 20 somethings playing teens either... but, good teen actors can be hard to come by... an it all comes down to whos best for the role, I am just saying, it shouldn't be a deciding factor, if they come a cross someones who is a great fit for the role, but, that's a little older, they shouldn't feel the need to cast a lesser choice, trying to fit a set age range
if they happen to find a good young actor/actress that fits within that age range, great...
Angamb
04-27-2011, 05:12 PM
Im sure there are many great young actors, they just have to make a good casting process.
After the cast they get on this prequel, Im sure Matthew and Bryan will find great young actors to play Scott, Jean and Ororo.
I cant wait for the sequels already.
This trilogy looks really promising, in my opinion, and Id even say more than the original trilogy.
psylockolussus
04-28-2011, 06:30 AM
Polaris for X-Men: Second Class pls!
Angamb
04-28-2011, 05:55 PM
Id like to see her too.
we need a new x-girl in the team.
Project862006
04-29-2011, 04:49 PM
with how politically involved this possible franchise seems to be how awesome would it be if they made Ronald Reagen have a part in creating the sentinels lol
marvelrobbins
04-29-2011, 05:30 PM
I don't think they will go that far.Besides the sequel will probally be In the early 70's.
They might deal with Vietnam or watergate somewhat.
I just wonder If the audence would settle for a film mostly with the first Class cast
and waiting for a possible third film to finally get to Teenage Cyclops,Jean,Storm amd
Angel(If they are Ignoring the Last Stand)
Second class could see Xavier,Beast,Havoc,and Banshee(Plus Moira) VS Magneto,Mystique,and Emma.plus any other addattions they decede to throw In.
Angamb
04-30-2011, 06:57 AM
each sequel could add a well known actor, so the general audience would be even more interested in this prequel trilogy.
so by the time of Thirs Class, it would be the prequel with the biggest boxoffice, the same that happened with X3.
Project862006
04-30-2011, 11:50 AM
so who should be the villain for sequels
Mister Sinister
Mastermind
Shadow King
or someone else
Alientraveller
04-30-2011, 11:56 AM
Shadow King is a must if we see Xavier recruit Storm.
Hellion
04-30-2011, 10:19 PM
Selene (w/ maybe a take on the Upstarts, and the introduction of Shinobi Shaw)
insane polaris
05-01-2011, 05:25 AM
John Sublime
Angamb
05-01-2011, 07:54 AM
Id like to see Mr. Sinister, but not sure if I want him for the second movie or the third, with Scott and Jean.
It would be nice to introduce him in Third Class, and then jump to the future with X4 and use him again, to develop his plot with the return of Scott.
marvelrobbins
05-01-2011, 11:10 AM
I have suspecison It will be X-Men VS Brotherhood for the rest of first Class trilogy with
Emma Frost also joining Brotherhood.
I also think My SInster,his film group of henchman,and the Sentinles for X4.X5.Maybe In X5 have It be revealed that Apocalypse Is sinster's master.
Angamb
05-02-2011, 05:37 PM
I think the plot for the next sequels will be more complex each time.
and hopefully, as mature and political as this one seems to be.
psylockolussus
05-04-2011, 05:49 AM
Mr. Sinister for the main villain!
marvelrobbins
05-05-2011, 09:18 AM
Over at another board there Is link to an except of a apparent Bryan Singer Interview where he suggests Wolverine could show up In a first Class sequel.
Now how could that be done? Very easily.X2 hinted both Xavier and Magneto know more
about his past than they let on.Similar to how In X-Men they hinted Mystique knows her
way around the mansion you could have a preadmantuam Wolverine play a part In the sequel especilly If Fox decedes to focus on First Class trilogy Instead of going forward
with X4.
In the event First Class being a huge success and Fox decedes to focus on completing the trilogy before turning attention to X4 I could see Pryan Singer producing and matthew Vaughn Directing a early 1970's set second class(If WOlverine shows up In the trilogy this would be the Installment It would happen) and Singer would take the helm of a 1980's set conclusion that brings teenage Cyclops,Jean Grey,Storm and possibly Angel(If they are throwing out the Last Stand)
Alientraveller
05-05-2011, 09:34 AM
I just realised William and Jason Stryker will be involved at some point...
marvelrobbins
05-05-2011, 09:50 AM
I would not be shocked If they are Involved In Second Class.
Angamb
05-05-2011, 05:25 PM
Id keep them for Third Class.
def28
05-05-2011, 08:56 PM
I personally hope Stryker does not show up in any other X Men.
Angamb
05-06-2011, 10:50 AM
I wouldnt mind if he doesnt.
I want something new.
marvelrobbins
05-06-2011, 11:54 AM
If Bryan Singer wants to put things In the sequels that lead Into his first 2 X-Men films
Stryker and his son are possiblys.
They might want to bring In antimutant humans more promently In second class.
If we have a early 70's set second film you could have Xavier,Beast,Banshee,Havoc with Help from Moira having to deal with Magneto's first Incartation of Brotherhood(Mystique,Emma frost and a couple others) and a growing antimutant human threat.
I am betting Trask and Sentinles being saved for X4.
However It Is also possibly for more Hellfire Club In second film.Remember there was a time when Magneto was part of the Hellfire club In the comics so the Idea after falling out with Xavier he joins them Isn't out of the realm of possibilty.Especilly since shot of Magneto In classic Costume from behind Is In same room where Emma Frost IS behind hled In Trailer.
conan69
05-08-2011, 09:34 AM
Proteus... Singers favorite classic storyline.
Hellion
05-08-2011, 11:30 AM
I just realised William and Jason Stryker will be involved at some point...
Jason could be a addition to 2nd/3rd class...
...to me William could be nothing more than a small role or quick cameo leaving his son at the school, and explaining his hopes that Charles can cure him, and give a little more background in the William/Jason dynamic/situation...lay a little more groundwork to what we'll eventually get to in X2...
marvelrobbins
05-09-2011, 12:56 PM
So will others be all right with Second Class If It Is mostly returning characters
from First Class and characters not yet used In the films?
They will probally hold us from bringing In Characters Like Cyclops,Jean Grey,and Storm
till the final part of the trilogy.
Kokomo29
05-11-2011, 12:37 AM
This might be a stupid question, but what are the chances that we could possibly see Nightcrawler in a potential X-Men: First Class sequel??
Proteus... Singers favorite classic storyline.
:up::up::up: Proteus could be such a great villain.
Angamb
05-11-2011, 10:48 AM
This might be a stupid question, but what are the chances that we could possibly see Nightcrawler in a potential X-Men: First Class sequel??
interesting question.
I think we could see a baby Kurt in second class and Mystique leaving him in the middle of the movie or so and keeping that plot for a possible sequel after X3.
Hypestyle
05-11-2011, 08:24 PM
If the shadow king is used, then Amahl Farouk should be the main person seen in the film.. They can get the guy who played Reza in the first Iron Man film (and the short-lived ethnic captain in the reboot Star Trek)..
Supermanreturns
05-12-2011, 01:05 PM
If the shadow king is used, then Amahl Farouk should be the main person seen in the film.. They can get the guy who played Reza in the first Iron Man film (and the short-lived ethnic captain in the reboot Star Trek)..
Oh yep, Farouk would be cool. They changed most of thing in X-franchise, so they can made some changes. And made some mutants like "sidekick" of Farouk.
Kevin Spacey for Farouk!
Anno_Domini
06-03-2011, 10:32 PM
I want to see Jubilee, Forge and Gambit.
FC has obviously created their own timeline and what not, so adding in Jubilee or Gambit won't hurt Vaughn's franchise. And I'd choose Forge over Cable as well.
GoldGoblin
06-04-2011, 02:02 PM
Lets see the real Juggernaut or Blob as a new character.
The Geek Vault
06-04-2011, 04:19 PM
I think a huge part of the sequel should be that someone on Xavier's side dies under Prof X command. This is what causes Erik to really hate charles. Maybe Quicksilver?
GoldGoblin
06-04-2011, 08:09 PM
Scarlet Witch would be better since the team needs a female then she chooses Xavier's side and is killed in battle.
Silvermoth
06-04-2011, 08:14 PM
I think a huge part of the sequel should be that someone on Xavier's side dies under Prof X command. This is what causes Erik to really hate charles. Maybe Quicksilver?
I've never thought of Erik as truly hating Charles. He is fustrated by Charles but what he really wants is for him to say 'oh wait, I get it now. You were right all along' so they can be friends again and live in Magneto's mutant utopia.
geoffdog77
06-05-2011, 11:21 AM
The only way they can make a First Class sequel work, is if they continued the story with the same characters. What do you want, another star wars prequel-style trilogy? No, we need to continue the arc with the same characters. This next one need to be empire, and continue with the arc between magneto and charles, which is not over. There is so much that can be told about the characters we have, like the relationship between azael and mistique. What if the movie opened with quicksilver and scarlet witch as gypsies in wherever they are, and magneto comes and rescues them from a mob and then finds out they're his kids. that would be an INTERESTING CHARACTER ARC. Charles' immediate response to his becoming crippled would be interesting. Luke got his hand cut off at the end of empire, but he still had a lot to do before he was the badass he became in the end of jedi. Prof X needs to really grow as a person.
Also, cut out the stuff about the relationships magneto and charles have with women. they're totally gay. i know it, you know it, that's what x-men has always been about, why not make a movie that is actually socially aware, huh?
and if you're going to bring up sexism in the 60's, you have to back that up by addressing it in the movie, and not ignoring and sexualising every female character
Charles slowly becomes bald, sequel that centers around more of the vietnam war.
chamber-music
06-05-2011, 02:24 PM
I've never thought of Erik as truly hating Charles. He is fustrated by Charles but what he really wants is for him to say 'oh wait, I get it now. You were right all along' so they can be friends again and live in Magneto's mutant utopia.
Exactly. Magneto has done some insane stuff in the comics murdering people ect and Charles didn't give up hopes on reforming
Erik.
Like Charles says "there is so much good in you too not just the pain and the anger".
Magneto only really comes into conflict with Xvier because he stands in his way. Magneto would much rather have him on his side.
PWN3R
06-05-2011, 06:04 PM
I know they never want to go cosmic with the cinema X-Verse, but there's so much potential to do it successfully with the space race. Depending on how Transformers plays it, I think that's a possibility.
Also, since it's Matthew Vaughn, I'd love to see Chloe Moretz show up as a mutant somewhere.
BobJM
06-05-2011, 08:22 PM
I'd like the film to open up with the JFK assassination (with Magneto creating the "magic bullet" theory a reality). Maybe Mystique can even be revealed as posing as Lee Harvey Oswald, in an attempt to create tensions and divides within humanity (if they're turning on each other, the Brotherhood can more easily attack them).
I'd like this film to stay in the 60s, however, and maybe have some explanations for real world events but this next film can be an original, isolated story that just happens to be set in the 60s. The X-Men and Brotherhood can start their war against each other, maybe with Shadowking or Sinister thrown into the mix. But I don't need to see them in Vietnam or in the shuttle to the moon. Just have the 60s as a backdrop.
Also, the X-Men need a girl. Maybe in a mission in Brazil, they find a young Alison Crestmere (Magma). Or Dani Moonstar could be cool
Shpati
06-05-2011, 08:34 PM
I think we should see Magneto's kids (Quicksilver for example) in a sequel. I think they could fix some continuity errors with this. Do not see a reason to get depth to tell how, but there are ways. Maybe, get Magneto's point of view to change when he has children (does not want them to live angry like him). Eric goes back with Charles, but eventually his children die, and he is angry permanently and blames human's for everything. Think this will add some more time to develop the relationship between Charles and Eric.
Sabertooth would be a nice easy addition to Magneto's brotherhood, since he ages really slowly.
I think there is even a way they can find a spot for Juggernut.
Blackman
06-06-2011, 04:44 PM
THey need to flesh out Havoc and Banshee. I liked the movie and while Banshee was funny you didnt really hear about his backstory.
And then Havoc didnt even really have a personality besides picking on Beast.
The Magneto/Xavier stuff was great to near perfect IMO, all they need to do is really fix some of the kid stuff
psylockolussus
06-07-2011, 12:45 AM
Yup
Banshee and Havok should get a story in the sequel!
Hellion
06-07-2011, 01:05 AM
Selene, I wouldn't mind a female villain taking center stage...
jaganar
06-15-2011, 11:26 AM
Duncan for Apocalypse for sure plus if he needs to the costume would be a definate a55kicker since he has gone toe to toe with them on occasion . we only need to drop the "A" belt.
the sequel should have Sinister talking to a shadow form at some point and before the end credits where MCD comes out of the shadows to bring him to his knees for his failure in X2C .
as far as the casting for Sinister ,
guys im gonna have to dissagree on that one, only one guy sticks out in my mind and has been since i saw how diabolical he is when he is in character (NO not MALKOVICH). Maurice benard , plays a ganster on General hospital and the whole time he is a devious self rightious guy who is actually JACKIE ESTICADO without the Darkness power.
or if you guys remember JOE: RENEGADES , the mofo Cobra Commander's personality " mess with me and ill step on you " attitude .
http://mauricebenard.tv/images/ROTATION.gif
THE LAST THING i want to see is a crappy version of Pheonix ( hated the idea that they ran with in X3 ).
we all know the Shi'ar empire had operatives across the universe so why not a cameo by them (like we had with Angela in Spawn) ??
can you guys imagine the climax of X3rd is a showdown between the combined forces of the Shi'ar and the Xmen versus Apocalypse , holy crap that would be beyond EPIC .
jaganar
06-15-2011, 05:17 PM
ok IM WATCHING rango again
and i decided to check the cast...
HOW IN THE *U** does olyphant sound like Clint eastwood . . . couldnt they get the man himself to reprise his legendary role . this whole time i saw the movie in the theater i thought it was him .
SONOVA:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:
Quetzal
06-19-2011, 04:03 PM
Why not have Magneto and Xavier come together again like in X2 to work against a common enemy?
How about a rounding up of mutants and killing off of them by the gov't?
Blitzkrieg Bop
06-19-2011, 04:37 PM
We've seen Charles and Erik team up twice now. Let's see the retro mutants fight each other in a good ol' X-Men vs. Brotherhood battle.
Quetzal
06-19-2011, 04:57 PM
Yea I guess :p, just dont want to see the chemistry between the two evaporate that quickly.
Anyone also think there may be a shot that Wolverine could randomly be inserted in a sequel? Since XMFC didnt have that name recognition, maybe the suits will want someone who could draw in the crowds if a sequel does happen.
Just a feeling, but I feel like this may be a possibility (Not that I want it).
psylockolussus
06-20-2011, 04:08 AM
Polaris and Sunfire for the First Class sequel!
returntovoid
06-27-2011, 08:19 AM
yes, James will play Charles again, that's for sure. the same with Michael, January and Kevin.
I had a thought some days ago..
what if this new trilogy works this way?
Xmen First Class: set in the 60's
Xmen Second Class: in the 70's
Xmen Third Class: in the 80's
This way, the new trilogy would tell all the story of the x-men, since the 60's to the present day, with X3.
It would be interesting, without doubt. If you decide to do a trilogy about the past of the x-men, it should tell all the past of the team, not just their experience in the 60's. Three movies set in the 60's is too much, I think. It would be a big wasted opportunity.
I agree with this. I still haven't seen First Class yet, is it any good???
Quetzal
06-27-2011, 08:39 PM
Yes, quite good. :word:
returntovoid
06-28-2011, 05:11 AM
Havok can be excluded from the sequel without killing him off. In the comics, Havok leaves the team after learning to control his powers. Choosing a ordinary life instead of sticking around. The same can be done for some other characters in favor of well known characters.
psylockolussus
06-28-2011, 07:21 AM
Havok can be excluded from the sequel without killing him off. In the comics, Havok leaves the team after learning to control his powers. Choosing a ordinary life instead of sticking around. The same can be done for some other characters in favor of well known characters.
Well if thats the reason why Havok left the X-Men, they should show Havok leaving the X-Men, not just a short dialogue said by his fellow X-Men.
Angamb
06-28-2011, 11:02 AM
I agree with this. I still haven't seen First Class yet, is it any good???
havent you watched it yet??
what are you waiting for?? lol
marvelrobbins
06-28-2011, 12:16 PM
The sequel should be X-Men VS Brotherhood.
Do Prologe In 1960's(Use matthew Vaughn's Magneto responsable for Kennedy's assassination or something else) and then cut to 1971(which allows you to use the first Class cast crediabilty)
Let's have Magneto attacking publicly.
Introduce only 1 new X-Men.It should be Polaris.
Xavier should beguin to lose his hair.
It would be cool to see Moira becoming a Scientist.
You could also If they want to show Mystique and Azarel producing Nightcrawler by having Mystique by jealous of Emma Forst so she sleeps with Azarel(Obvisously they wouldn't show the act on screen) and after giving birth Magneto makes her give the baby up for him forgiving her betreyal(maybe after killing Azarel for being with Mystique)
some characters need to go In sequel so If we get a trilogy we can get teeange Cyclops,Jean,and Storm In third film. And maybe show how Sabretooth becomes allied
with Magneto.
It would also be cool to have Sinster as villian of third film and have Emma betrey Magneto to SInster explaning why she Isn't with Brotherhood in Earlier films.
Sebastos
06-28-2011, 08:55 PM
Polaris and Sunfire for the First Class sequel!
I would have to agree, they're my choices for the sequel aswell.
returntovoid
06-29-2011, 02:33 AM
The second one should be set a decade later so the more familiar characters can be introduced. The first one was Xavier and Erik's team, second should be only Xavier's team that includes Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey, Iceman and Angel.
Just my opinion, it depends more on what direction Matthew Vaughn will take next.
psylockolussus
06-29-2011, 05:28 AM
I agree with this. I still haven't seen First Class yet, is it any good???
Beyond epic proportions.
Sebastos
06-29-2011, 06:48 AM
I agree with this. I still haven't seen First Class yet, is it any good???
Drop everything you're doing and go see it...NOW. :wow:
demitri_vampiro
07-02-2011, 01:43 PM
I really think that now is the time to go more extreme with X-Men. I really want Sentinels in this trilogy. I think that it's even possible for the sequel.
I would start with a montage. Because we'll jump 10 - 20 years in the future, and I think it would be cool to have Prof X dialog to sum up those years, how the relationship between mutants and humans has worsened. We see in the montage mutants being hunt down, beaten up, houses burnt by the Friends of Humanity clans. Than we see perhaps Scott running away from them, and then the X-Men save him and like that he gets introduced. But I want the sequel to build up and introduce the Sentinels. Than for part three the Genosha Island and the ultimate battle against the Sentinels.
insane polaris
07-02-2011, 02:38 PM
So you want the first season of Wolverine and the X-men?
demitri_vampiro
07-02-2011, 03:40 PM
or the 90's cartoon X-Men...nothing wrong with bringing it closer to cartoon...
insane polaris
07-02-2011, 05:59 PM
Haha its just your first post described the plot for WATX, Friends of humanity beating, rounding up mutants... Intro of sentinels... sentinels march on Genosha.
Not that im complaining it would make a great X4/5. But I dont Sentinels can be introduced in the First Class trilogy. In X-men 1 the public are not aware of mutants that much.
If the Sentinels were used it would have to be in secret, within a government building and not in full view of the public, which would not do them justice.
Better to wait till X4, and the aftermath of Phoenix.
demitri_vampiro
07-03-2011, 03:43 AM
If the trilogy is just going to lead to X-Men 1, then it's going to be much of the same I guess. I think that Sentinels surely could be introduced. At the end of trilogy people and government realize how dangerous the Sentinels are, because they will start also killing "normal" people. So they'll shut the Sentinel project down. Then it would even make a little sense why there was a Sentinel in X3, danger room.
Supermanreturns
07-04-2011, 05:39 PM
We've learned that the studio is "discussing sequels internally."
While there is not yet any formal announcement of a follow-up, it does show interest in continuing First Class rather than leaving it as a standalone origin tale.
Executives are said to be very pleased with what Matthew Vaughn achieved with the film. It scored an 87 per cent overall rating on the review aggregation site Rotten Tomatoes and has, to date, amassed $335million worldwide in just over four weeks on release. The budget is reported as $160million, reduced by tax concessions to about $135m, which has now been recouped from domestic (USA) earnings.
First Class has been the mutants' second highest earner (after X-Men: The Last Stand) in terms of overseas ticket sales.
Source: http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/
Cheshire1996
08-01-2011, 08:44 PM
A fair few of the actors have mentioned they've been signed or are interested in signing on for sequels. So hopefully, hopefully, they go with it.
Something that people don't seem to be getting is that First Class was NOT a prequel. Bryan Singer and Matthew Vaughn both said that it is a REBOOT. And anyways, they should set it in the 70's and have Wolverine.
I was thinking that if it DID skip ahead, The Brotherhood could have already set up in The Savage Land. There could maybe be Sentinels also.
marvelrobbins
08-08-2011, 06:02 PM
Yes It was a prequel.It has been called a prequel.Bryan Singer never called it a reboot.
Yes In Superhero hype matthew Vaughn called it one but he has habit of saying different things.In other Interviews he called It both reboot and prequel set before X-Men and others called it In contunity.
psylockolussus
08-09-2011, 04:01 AM
Something that people don't seem to be getting is that First Class was NOT a prequel. Bryan Singer and Matthew Vaughn both said that it is a REBOOT. And anyways, they should set it in the 70's and have Wolverine.
I was thinking that if it DID skip ahead, The Brotherhood could have already set up in The Savage Land. There could maybe be Sentinels also.
Well its just a word. And if First Class was really a reboot, Cyclops, Iceman, Angel, Beast and Jean Grey would have been in the team and not Havok and Banshee. And the footage of X1/X3 wouldn't be attached to First Class' trailer.
nikos52
09-03-2011, 05:21 AM
don't need new characters for this. Just a villain maybe.
We got the origins of xaviers relationship with magneto.
Now i think we deserve to get xaviers relationship with x-men.
Don't give him more than one new student, it would suck!
Just develop the characters you have already.
psylockolussus
09-05-2011, 02:55 AM
But a new student or a new member for the X-Men would be more interesting and exciting especially if its Polaris.
Electrix
09-05-2011, 05:54 AM
There's no direct quote confirming the sequel, but it looks promising.
Efforts by 20th Century Fox, owned by the News Corporation, to restart its “X-Men” and “Planet of the Apes” franchises were particularly impressive. Fox took creative risks with “X-Men: First Class” and “Rise of the Planet of the Apes,” and it was rewarded with hits that will spawn sequels.
“The lesson for us is that different and original is always hard and always a risk but has great upside,” said Tom Rothman, co-chairman of Fox Filmed Entertainment. “While both of those films had genetic material in common with their original franchises, both were very, very original pieces.” Notably, “First Class” and “Rise” received some of the summer’s best reviews.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/05/business/media/summer-movie-attendance-continues-to-erode.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
psylockolussus
09-07-2011, 12:13 AM
For me X-4 or Second Class, its still a win-win over for me.
I just hope there's no Wolverine 3!
If the Wolverine sold more than $200K in US alone, a Wolverine 3 is very possible.
marvelrobbins
09-07-2011, 10:35 PM
I see the Wolverine as last solo film for Wolverine.If Hugh Jackman plays wolverine again after that It will be for X4.
I could image wolverine In first class sequel but they ahve major contunity problem.Beast didn't recgonize him.Now If they just outright ignore last stand problem
solved.But I think Inless X4 happens Hugh jackman's final appearance as Wolverine will be The Wolverine.
henzINNIT
09-08-2011, 05:48 AM
Jackman is getting too old to play Wolverine, especially in the origin story frame. X4 needs to jump forward in time tbh.
Nell2ThaIzzay
09-08-2011, 01:35 PM
Well its just a word. And if First Class was really a reboot, Cyclops, Iceman, Angel, Beast and Jean Grey would have been in the team and not Havok and Banshee. And the footage of X1/X3 wouldn't be attached to First Class' trailer.
Or more importantly, the X1 footage that was actually used in First Class... you know, setting it in the same continuity, thus, not a reboot...
marvelrobbins
09-08-2011, 01:48 PM
From various Interviews Lauren Shuller Donner has been giving It appears
the Idea Is for Bryan Singer to devolp the story and produce again.Jane
Goldman and Matthew Vaughn to write script and Vaughn direct.They
may jump to mid or late 1970's so they can Introduce Teenage Cyclops and
Jean Grey.They may say the 1990's Is setting for X-Men trilogy.
It appears that postive reaction to First Class has killed talk of X4/x5.And
she In one come close to confirming Singer was going to helm X4/X5.
She always said the end of First Class trilogy wouldn't neccessarly go directly
to X-Men.
henzINNIT
09-09-2011, 11:35 AM
I believe it was Nell who pitched the Friends of Humanity as a threat in FC2. Makes sense to me. Omega Red could really tie into the 60's vibe also, foreshadowing the Americans' take later on with Weapon X.
I may be in the minority on this, but I don't really care about seeing Scott and Jean anytime soon. I would prefer the existing characters get their time to shine.
Donner said that the studios liked her and Bryan's take on X-men 4 and that the movie would lead into x-men 5 so i hope everything happens as planed
marvelrobbins
09-09-2011, 12:02 PM
Donner has said In another Interview they plan to jump to 1970's.And If the rest
of planned trilogy would likely take place In this time frame.She has mentioned
It's possible Cyclops and Jean could be Introduced In second film(which would
confirm speculation the other films are being reconned as taking place In 1990's)
but unsure.But since she goes out of way to say they want matthew Vaughn back and he wants sequel to focus on mostly characers from first Class I still believe they will wait for third film.
My thinking Is sequel will take place In early 1970's and third and final part will
take place In mid or late 1970's.
Spider-Fan83
09-09-2011, 12:33 PM
I honesty don't want to see to much of a time gap, from first class... I don't want to see it be set in the 70s or 80's... I want to see it pick up where they left off (or with in a year at the most)
I honesty don't want to see to much of a time gap, from first class... I don't want to see it be set in the 70s or 80's... I want to see it pick up where they left off (or with in a year at the most)
Me too, Vaugh said it himself that this was his Batman begins and so in the next one he won't have to introduce characters again, i think that they shouldn't let this be only a trilogy, if the next has enough success they should try to make more than 1 because Vaugh wants to continue with his 60s movies while everybody also wants the 70s and 80s so we'll just have to see.
I don't mind too much with them retconing the timeline of the original movies as long as they still happen :cwink:
marvelrobbins
09-09-2011, 01:03 PM
Part of the reason for timejump would be to get to where Cyclops and jean are Intoduced.
There Is pressure to get them In and also be able to fit the timeline of X-Men and X2.
If you say they happened In 1990's you can have teenage Scott and Jean in 1970's.
My feeling Is they can recon the Last Stand and wolverine out of exsistance as long as I can watch first Class and sequels with X-Men and X2.
Vaughn himself hinted at sequel opening In 1963 with Magneto being respobable for the
JFK Assassination and jumping ahead to 4 or 5 years later.I would be fine with a late 1960's setting with only 1 new character(this Is what Vaughn said)
Vaugh made the batman begins reference because I suspect In sequel we will have Magneto causing terror just like the Joker did In The dark Knight.
I heared a lot of that magneto killing JFK and like the idea but where is that interview?
I didn't see it yet.
marvelrobbins
09-09-2011, 01:29 PM
That was as First Class hitting theatres.It Isn;t recent one.But that was most he has
talked about sequel.
The thing about that Is brillent both the Conspiracy camp and Oswald Did camp of JFK
assassination would be right.You have Oswald(possably shooting because hired by
Emma.Remember she Is with Brotherhood now and hellfire club has money) shooting
but Magneto using powers to do with bullet the crazy turns they claim the bullet did
so only one shooter killed JFK.
the a1ant
09-09-2011, 02:58 PM
I heared a lot of that magneto killing JFK and like the idea but where is that interview?
I didn't see it yet.
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/interview-director-matthew-vaughn-on-making-x-men-first-class-feel-fresh
"I've got some ideas for the opening for the next film. I thought it would be fun to open with the Kennedy Assassination, and we reveal that the magic bullet was controlled by Magneto. That would explain the physics of it, and we see that he's pissed off because Kennedy took all the credit for saving the world and mutants weren't even mentioned. And we could go from there, and I've got some fun ideas about what other mutants to bring in."
blueserenity
09-09-2011, 10:57 PM
"Producer Lauren Shuler Donner says that if a sequel does happen, they'll probably jump ahead to the 1970's"
I reeeeeally hope this isn't true. XMFC worked because it was so character-driven. They've got a character goldmine if they keep the sequel within a couple years of XMFC. Charles' struggles, Erik's struggles, Raven getting darker. If they skip to the 70s and don't address the new demons this trio has they will have really wasted what they built in the first one. The old X-Men were about powers and cool fight sequences. This line needs to be about more than that.
henzINNIT
09-10-2011, 03:20 PM
"Producer Lauren Shuler Donner says that if a sequel does happen, they'll probably jump ahead to the 1970's"
I reeeeeally hope this isn't true. XMFC worked because it was so character-driven. They've got a character goldmine if they keep the sequel within a couple years of XMFC. Charles' struggles, Erik's struggles, Raven getting darker. If they skip to the 70s and don't address the new demons this trio has they will have really wasted what they built in the first one. The old X-Men were about powers and cool fight sequences. This line needs to be about more than that.
I agree. There's a lot of development over 10 years and I would rather see it happen rather than hear about it.
X-Maniac
09-10-2011, 07:11 PM
"Producer Lauren Shuler Donner says that if a sequel does happen, they'll probably jump ahead to the 1970's"
I reeeeeally hope this isn't true. XMFC worked because it was so character-driven. They've got a character goldmine if they keep the sequel within a couple years of XMFC. Charles' struggles, Erik's struggles, Raven getting darker. If they skip to the 70s and don't address the new demons this trio has they will have really wasted what they built in the first one. The old X-Men were about powers and cool fight sequences. This line needs to be about more than that.
I think it could move into the 70s but you are right that it would be ideal to see a continuation of events at the end of First Class.
The story has to come first.
Those people shrieking 'we must have apocalypse/sentinels/sinister/etc' have got it all wrong. To force those into a story would be wrong.
If a story is conceived in which one or more of those elements are the natural choice, then fine.
We need to see how Charles deals with his disability, and what Magneto does next. I want a natural flow of events rather than forcing comic book characters/scenarios into the script 'just because'.
marvelrobbins
09-10-2011, 11:09 PM
The sequel needs to be X-Men VS Brotherhood.The sequel needs to have Magneto
making moves against governments.We need to see the general public become aware
of mutants,and Xavier has to deal with his condition and lose his hair.
Matthew Vaughn was right In Interview mentioning only bringing In one new character.
Let the sequel use the survivng First Class cast with 1 new X-Man.Leave It to third
film to start making more Introductions.
Hypestyle
09-11-2011, 10:42 AM
next movie should be in the middle to late 60s, deal with more social tumult in the world and america..
if you accept the premise that First Class was a "full reboot" or alternate timeline (xavier crippled already where he was still walking in the Last Stand flashback), then you can bring in Cyclops as Havok's brother (he wouldn't have been born yet if you accept the original trilogy's timeline).. but no wolverine, no storm. Bring in more folks we haven't seen on screen yet. The original Thunderbird; Polaris; Firestar..
blueserenity
09-11-2011, 10:50 AM
next movie should be in the middle to late 60s, deal with more social tumult in the world and america..
if you accept the premise that First Class was a "full reboot" or alternate timeline (xavier crippled already where he was still walking in the Last Stand flashback), then you can bring in Cyclops as Havok's brother (he wouldn't have been born yet if you accept the original trilogy's timeline).. but no wolverine, no storm. Bring in more folks we haven't seen on screen yet. The original Thunderbird; Polaris; Firestar..
I honestly don't give a hoot who they bring in or if they decide to create brand new X-Men for a sequel. No matter what they do they will never be able to please all the fanboys (and that should never be their main objective anyway). They need to stop concerning themselves with that and just focus on making a good movie. People b'tched and moaned about how the bg characters in XMFC got little to no development and yet they're quick to make demands for new ones in a sequel. I like Vaughn's idea of introducing ONE new character. Or he could replace some useless ones (looking at you, Angel). Fan favorites are completely irrelevant.
marvelrobbins
09-11-2011, 12:58 PM
Let's keep the characters who were alive at end of First Class.And bring In 1 new X-Man.
Polaris,Sunfire,even Thunderbird would work.For all those consently wanting new
characters brought In that was part of problem with X-Men The Last Stand.And If you
want more devolpment for Banshee and Havok your not going to get it Introducing several
more characters.
Dr.Negative
09-11-2011, 04:10 PM
I had a thought. If they base the story in the 70's they could potentially use the watergate story with Nixon.
Think about...
what if the whole watergate story was a cover-up for say the goverment trying to start the Mutant Registration act.
I think they should still have Magneto and the JFK assassination in 1963 plot because essentially they turned Magneto into a Rogue James Bond character and he now has a team. But i think, if were going to jump from the 60's to the 70's then were going to want to know what happened during that time in the middle.
I feel mutants being hidden from the public would be the basis of the idea... like Magneto assasinating JFK, maybe the avalanche in Alaska in 1963 could of been caused by Avalanche... a history of mutant related activities which has caused reason to act on the mutant registation act.
i also think you have a good idea to bring in Dr.Nathaniel Essex as a mutant advisor but working on the goverment side. Think of it like this, they had Xavier but he was for mutants and was also a mutant. Essex is human - well almost so his mind could be percieved as being on the side of humans.
Gold Samurai
09-11-2011, 09:25 PM
Looking at all the work to put make up on for Nicholas and Jennifer I wonder why Motion capture hasn't been used.
At least in the way it was used in Green lantern. They could CGI the mystique and beast costume on.
Jordacar
09-11-2011, 10:03 PM
Looking at all the work to put make up on for Nicholas and Jennifer I wonder why Motion capture hasn't been used.
At least in the way it was used in Green lantern. They could CGI the mystique and beast costume on.The way Beast turned out, they might as well have.
henzINNIT
09-12-2011, 03:34 AM
Beast looked pretty rubbish. It was a bit awkward watching the behind the scenes stuff where they were so proud of it. No better than Kelsey Grammar's in X3 tbh.
Gold Samurai
09-12-2011, 12:12 PM
I think the dubbing of Nicholas Hoult or the prosthetics was off. The mouth wasn't moving when we heard beast talk
"I designed her"
But the dialogue wasn't catching up with the mouth movements. It was weird.
Sebastos
09-12-2011, 12:16 PM
I wasn't really impressed with how Beast turned out honestly.
marvelrobbins
09-12-2011, 12:32 PM
well,I have never been fan of catlike Beast In Comics.I never liked the whole second
mutation stuff that was added In 2000's In the comics.
henzINNIT
09-12-2011, 03:57 PM
I don't think he looked Cat-like tbh, but I do think that while looking less human he didn't necessarily look more beastly like Vaughn intended.
In some shots Beast looked great. The shot of him piloting the blackbird in the trailer made me expect waay too much. I think it was probably the crazy schedule that held them back, hopefully it can be improved in a sequel.
Hellion
09-12-2011, 04:41 PM
I don't think he looked Cat-like tbh, but I do think that while looking less human he didn't necessarily look more beastly like Vaughn intended.
In some shots Beast looked great. The shot of him piloting the blackbird in the trailer made me expect waay too much. I think it was probably the crazy schedule that held them back, hopefully it can be improved in a sequel.
Beast looked better in stills/shots than in motion (IMO of course)......and agreed with whoever said the dubbing/speech didn't match to Beast's mouth (I really noticed this last night watching the Blu)...
on a sequel...I don't want a time gap, I'd like the film to continue in the 60', I'm not a big fan of the Magneto/JFK thing...too many possibilities for a sequel...
I honestly don't want any new characters, I'd like to learn more and see the current crew grow, maybe in third class introduce 1 or 2 new characters, but for 2nd Class I'd like to get to know the X-Kids (mostly Havok and Banshee) and I guess you would call the 1st incarnation of the Brotherhood (maybe some background on Riptide, Emma, & Azazel)...Angel didn't bother me in FC but I wouldn't mind if they dropped her
psylockolussus
09-13-2011, 02:06 AM
Well I do hope they jump ahead to 1970s, so they can introduce either Storm, Cyclops or Jean Grey.
blueserenity
09-13-2011, 06:46 AM
Well I do hope they jump ahead to 1970s, so they can introduce either Storm, Cyclops or Jean Grey.
Yeah this is what I was talking about. This line of X-Men films is not about pleasing the fanboys at all and I hope they keep it that way. Seriously, who cares if they don't introduce even one new character? They've got plenty already they should spend some time fleshing out. I guarantee that an X-Men movie made with a timeline dictated by the popular X-Men characters will be an absolute waste. And something I can see Vaughn fighting against tooth and nail.
Seriously every time someone suggests they skip ahead to the 70s for a sequel I feel I have to ask: Did you watch the same movie I did?
Yup, with the next film i want to watch some Magneto coolness, use the 70s for the 3rd movie or even better, continue the first class series after movie 3 or even create another spin-off series.
In fact Origins Wolverine is the one that should have showed the 70s well.
I'm also very hyped to see what Bryan Singer's x-4 and 5 will be about
henzINNIT
09-13-2011, 09:24 AM
Cyclops is my favourite character, he was wasted in the old trilogy, but I don't want him shoe-horned into this series.
I would like 1 extra hero to be newly recruited. Preferably female, and from outside of the US, as both of these are lacking in the team as it stands. I wouldn't mind seeing Darwin back as well tbh.
blueserenity
09-13-2011, 10:14 AM
Cyclops is my favourite character, he was wasted in the old trilogy, but I don't want him shoe-horned into this series.
I would like 1 extra hero to be newly recruited. Preferably female, and from outside of the US, as both of these are lacking in the team as it stands. I wouldn't mind seeing Darwin back as well tbh.
If anything the one extra person would be a villain. Charles and Erik can't be enemies just yet, there needs to be someone who manages to antagonize BOTH of their ideals.
In terms of outside of the US, Riptide is Spanish, Azazel is Russian, Wolverine is Canadian, Charles was presumably born in the UK, Erik is Polish. Only the BG heroes were American but not much they could have done about that... after all they were recruiting for the CIA. In the comics aren't most of the X-Men American anyway? It's hard to live in the US unless you're a citizen. :P
marvelrobbins
09-13-2011, 11:53 AM
The Brotherhood Is formed at end of First Class.The sequel should be The first
Brotherhood VS X-Men.If you want to have another Villian which both Xavier and
Magneto fight against leave that for third film.
I want to sequel to be the X2 of this trilogy.Then you Introduced 1 new X-Man.Beefed up the Iceman and Pyro cameos.Dropped sabretooth and Toad and brought In Stryker and
deathstrike.
Go with Magneto as Villian.Have Brotherhood attack publicly.Introduce 1 new X-Man.
Give Banshee and Havoc more to do.Keep the Brotherhood line up as It was.
blueserenity
09-13-2011, 03:13 PM
The Brotherhood Is formed at end of First Class.The sequel should be The first
Brotherhood VS X-Men.If you want to have another Villian which both Xavier and
Magneto fight against leave that for third film.
I want to sequel to be the X2 of this trilogy.Then you Introduced 1 new X-Man.Beefed up the Iceman and Pyro cameos.Dropped sabretooth and Toad and brought In Stryker and
deathstrike.
Go with Magneto as Villian.Have Brotherhood attack publicly.Introduce 1 new X-Man.
Give Banshee and Havoc more to do.Keep the Brotherhood line up as It was.
I'm not sure you watched the same movie I did...
Magneto and Charles are not enemies. Them fighting in a sequel would not make sense at all.
marvelrobbins
09-13-2011, 04:58 PM
Yes it would.Magneto formed brotherhood.He broke Emma out of CIA custody for the
Brotherhood.Conflict with Xavier comes because he Is opposed to Magneto's tactics.
For the next film i remember that Vaugh said that he was thinking of which villain he should put against Magneto, in other words, he's pratically making this his oun X-Men origins magneto trilogy.
marvelrobbins
09-13-2011, 05:12 PM
He said he would bring In 1 new character to go top to toe with Magneto now that
Xavier Is crippled.That doesn't mean another villian.That can mean 1 new X-Man.
X-Maniac
09-13-2011, 05:12 PM
I'm not sure you watched the same movie I did...
Magneto and Charles are not enemies. Them fighting in a sequel would not make sense at all.
I agree. I see it that the Brotherhood would be gathering resources, creating a base, plotting activities.
Magneto doesn't even know Xavier is disabled. Xavier doesn't have Cerebro to find Magneto.
We already saw X-Men vs Brotherhood at the end of First Class.
I agree. I see it that the Brotherhood would be gathering resources, creating a base, plotting activities.
Magneto doesn't even know Xavier is disabled. Xavier doesn't have Cerebro to find Magneto.
We already saw X-Men vs Brotherhood at the end of First Class.
That seems pretty good, if the next movie is about that and the x-men's activities begining to clash with the brotherhood's then it could be a good way to continue the story
X-Maniac
09-13-2011, 05:20 PM
Yes it would.Magneto formed brotherhood.He broke Emma out of CIA custody for the
Brotherhood.Conflict with Xavier comes because he Is opposed to Magneto's tactics.
Xavier won't have any idea what Magneto is up to. He doesn't have Cerebro, and Magneto is shielded from it anyway. Plus, Frost can shield herself too. Riptide, Azazel, Angel, Mystique would be detectable though.
The Brotherhood would probably choose a base far from the mansion to prevent themselves being detectable by Xavier's telepathic reach.
I don't see a conflict between them forming the key part of the story. They may come up against each other at some point, and we could then see Xavier vs Emma, but Magneto is pretty unbeatable. He flung the X-Men away with a gesture on the beach. It's going to take a very powerful character to go up against him.
NinjaCarm
09-14-2011, 07:21 PM
I've heard what Vaughn has said (one new x-man) but I would very much prefer the Sentinels.
Or at least in the 3rd "First Class" films.
By the way, how does all of this work with X-Men Origins Wolverine??
Does it?
marvelrobbins
09-14-2011, 07:25 PM
X-Men origins:wolverine Is likely being Ignored.
If there Is any chance of X4 going beyond talk the sentinles will probally be saved for that.
cronosred
09-14-2011, 11:56 PM
I want to see more of the human/mutant conflict, something I feel has not been handled as well as it could have in these films. In the X-Men animated series there was a group called the Friends Of Humanity which was sort of their version of the kkk. I would like to see something like that done in this series because so far all we've seen is two guys who dislike mutants and a few seconds of some picketers. I want to see news reports about mutants being attacked, instead of Magneto saying people won't accept mutants actually show it.
Weren't the sentinels already used in X-Men: The official video game?
You know, the game that bridges the gap between x-2 and 3, and in the end makes x-3 have more sence
henzINNIT
09-15-2011, 05:02 AM
The game will be ignored without consideration whenever a Sentinel plot makes it into a film.
In terms of outside of the US, Riptide is Spanish, Azazel is Russian, Wolverine is Canadian, Charles was presumably born in the UK, Erik is Polish. Only the BG heroes were American but not much they could have done about that... after all they were recruiting for the CIA. In the comics aren't most of the X-Men American anyway? It's hard to live in the US unless you're a citizen. :P
I said within the team :)
The X-Men in the comics were drawn together from all corners of the planet, and it makes sense for them to be that way as a symbol of equality. I think the team needs a girl, and a representitive from another country. Might as well nail two birds with one stone.
Besides, I want some more nationalities in general, because the films have Americanised so many characters already (Banshee, Moira, Colossus, Pyro etc)
Phoenix_Flare
09-16-2011, 06:52 AM
in the sequel i would like to see Scott and Jean, since Magneto has his full team, it's time for the X-Men to add new members
Beast should/could be designing the sub-basement
Phoenix_Flare
09-16-2011, 06:56 AM
Jean could be a strong enough character to take on Magneto
marvelrobbins
09-16-2011, 06:13 PM
Inless they jump to mid 70's It's too soon for Jean.
blueserenity
09-20-2011, 11:37 PM
We've heard that sequels are "in discussion". In addition to figuring out whether they want one or not (and I'd like to believe it's looking good), I bet they're trying to decide, if there is a sequel, whether it will be a reboot or a prequel. They have been touting this flick as a prequel for a long time but it would be very easy to make it a reboot as well. There are arguments for both. I'm happy with either as long as they make a good movie. :)
(sorry if this is a double post, I posted this already I thought but I guess it didn't go through)
Project862006
09-23-2011, 02:58 PM
looking at Uncanny X men #544 this wouldn't be a bad look to go for with Sinister for a sequel
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2879/uncannyxmen544preview3.jpg
Angamb
09-23-2011, 05:12 PM
yeah, its a great addaptation.
at the end, Sinister could easily has a realistic look, in some way, he is like a mature vampire with a red thing on his front, lol
Jordacar
09-23-2011, 08:48 PM
I can't imagine him calling himself Mr. Sinister tho, even in jest. Sure, the students would call him that (we saw how codename-happy they were in FC), but I don't think it would catch on with anyone else.
Frodo
09-24-2011, 05:00 PM
In terms of setting , I still think 1968/1969 would be the best year for the film to take place. It was one of the most turbulant years of the decade with the Chicago Democratic convention, the Assinations of RFK and MLK, the Vietnam war protests, civil rights struggles , and a divide between the WW2 generation and the Baby Boomers who were in their teens and 20's then. In this climate you had households divided and many kids ran away from home or were alienated from their families and their government for different political views, beliefs ,etc. At the same time you had a government which blackmailed, wiretapped, and intimadated its citizens who spoke out.
In this climate , you would have alot of young mutants who would have no where to turn to and the basic race between Erik and Charles would be to influence the hearts and minds of these students. In terms of a villan I think Sinister would fit well in this climate . It would be cool if they could tie in the Summer's family to sinister but given how the films really don't follow the comics who knows.
In terms of new mutants , I wouldn't mind seeing Storm who would be 14 or so along with a Juggernaunt done right . Storm could serve as a parrallel to Rogue from the first film.
Like Empire Strikes Back , X2, Spiderman 2 and TDK, I think the sequel would have to get deeper into the characters . In this case Charles, Erik, Raven, Hank, and Moria I think would be considered the lead characters with Storm ,or who ever, as a new character .
Cherry
09-24-2011, 11:59 PM
I can't imagine him calling himself Mr. Sinister tho, even in jest. Sure, the students would call him that (we saw how codename-happy they were in FC), but I don't think it would catch on with anyone else.
They would probably just go with Nathaniel Essex. I'd be happy with that.
I want Scott, Jean, and Sinister at some point in the next two sequels.
Cagefighterkip
09-25-2011, 12:12 PM
First Class sequel? Sinister as the villain is a great idea, he could be showing his interest in the Summers family (with Havok on the team). I would love to see them introduce Pixie as a new team member.
GhostPoet
09-26-2011, 01:50 PM
I like to see First Class as a reboot...so we can forget the horrible "sequels" (X2 was ALRIGHT)
Sinister needs to be the villain for sure. That way they could possibly introduce a young Cyclops.
sauronthegreat
09-29-2011, 08:32 AM
looking at Uncanny X men #544 this wouldn't be a bad look to go for with Sinister for a sequel
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2879/uncannyxmen544preview3.jpg
This is definitely one of the best adoptable versions of Sinister so far. I just hope him to be the villain of the next two installments.
Angamb
09-30-2011, 05:01 PM
Id like him for the last part of this new trilogy.
blueserenity
09-30-2011, 10:11 PM
Fox Filmed Entertainment spokesman Chris Petrikin has a different view of the performance of “X-Men: First Class,” however.
“We regard ‘X-Men’ as a huge success,” he said. “It reignited the franchise and has done more than $350 million worldwide.” He added that the film performed strongly enough for Fox to make more sequels in the future and characterized the film division’s overall performance as “terrific.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/30/us-newscorp-idUSTRE78T5FQ20110930
Sequels as in FC sequels, right??? :D
psylockolussus
09-30-2011, 10:59 PM
I can't imagine him calling himself Mr. Sinister tho, even in jest. Sure, the students would call him that (we saw how codename-happy they were in FC), but I don't think it would catch on with anyone else.
"Mr. Sinister" can be his crime name in the movies.
psylockolussus
09-30-2011, 11:02 PM
Yeah this is what I was talking about. This line of X-Men films is not about pleasing the fanboys at all and I hope they keep it that way. Seriously, who cares if they don't introduce even one new character? They've got plenty already they should spend some time fleshing out. I guarantee that an X-Men movie made with a timeline dictated by the popular X-Men characters will be an absolute waste. And something I can see Vaughn fighting against tooth and nail.
Seriously every time someone suggests they skip ahead to the 70s for a sequel I feel I have to ask: Did you watch the same movie I did?
No I totally did not watch the same movie you watched.
The point of having this "First Class" movies is to explain what happened in the past. So the sequel should explain how some of the X-Men like Storm, Jean Grey and Cyclops became a X-Men member.
marvelrobbins
09-30-2011, 11:27 PM
My hope for first sequel Is to focus on conflict between first X-Men(Beast,Banshee,Havok,new recruit) and Magneto and first Brotherhood(Mystique,Azarel,emma frost,Riptide,Angel Salvatore) with possibilty of some not surviving.
The third film IS when Cyclops,Jean and Storm should be Introduced.Beast might be only X-man from first film still with Xavier In third film.You could have Sinster as villian.And this could end up uniting Xavier and magneto again.And end could be him cooling off attacking humans.But the push for registation In X-men causes him to resume prepring for war.
blueserenity
09-30-2011, 11:34 PM
No I totally did not watch the same movie you watched.
The point of having this "First Class" movies is to explain what happened in the past. So the sequel should explain how some of the X-Men like Storm, Jean Grey and Cyclops became a X-Men member.
They've got a way more interesting storyline going on with the members they already have. They could totally introduce those 3 in a third movie, but definitely not in the second. They've laid too much groundwork to waste it with fanboy faves. None of these three would add anything to the story other than be crowd-pleasers. There is absolutely NO reason to skip to the 70s or 80s. Too much needs to be told in between.
marvelrobbins
09-30-2011, 11:59 PM
They should hold off till third film to bring them In.The second film should use the cast
of First Class Minus Shaw and Darwin.However Lauren Shuller Donner has strongly hinted
at move to1970's and that both sequels will take place In 1970's.Second film posibily
In early 1970's and third film possibily In mid 1970's.
blueserenity
10-01-2011, 02:51 AM
They should hold off till third film to bring them In.The second film should use the cast
of First Class Minus Shaw and Darwin.However Lauren Shuller Donner has strongly hinted
at move to1970's and that both sequels will take place In 1970's.Second film posibily
In early 1970's and third film possibily In mid 1970's.
She has said this is what she HOPEs for. Vaughn has said he wanted it in the mid-to-late 60s which would frankly work way better I think. There is so much to see just in the YEAR after Cuba, it would be a shame if they glossed over it. The best character moments will take place shortly after the separation.
henzINNIT
10-01-2011, 04:53 AM
No I totally did not watch the same movie you watched.
The point of having this "First Class" movies is to explain what happened in the past. So the sequel should explain how some of the X-Men like Storm, Jean Grey and Cyclops became a X-Men member.
I can't disagree more.
XO:W was about explaining the past, and you can tell because it sucked.
First Class was about more than simply connecting the dots. I sincerely hope that the sequels follow suit. You need a good story and I fear jumping ahead for some unnecessary cameos will waste the energy of the last film and sideline the new cast of characters.
Furthermore, I wish the word 'trilogy' would go away. There's no need to impose that on this series, especially after the issues TLS caused.
marvelrobbins
10-01-2011, 09:35 AM
Matthew vaughn has said In one Intreview he Is open to doing more than a trilogy.I wish
people would treat propiers like X-Men as series and not trilogy.
Bryan Singer has said the sequel could Involve the civil rights movement.At end of First
Class the general public Isn't yet aware of mutants only the US and Soviet Governments
are.Vaughn's Idea of Magneto being responable for the Kennedy assassination Is because
mutants got no credit for resvolving the Cuban missile crisis.
They should focus on cast they have now,and not work on throwing tons of new characters In as some are suggesting.Bring In 1 new X-Man.There Is no need to add
anyone to Brotherhood.Setting a prologue a year later and then jumping 3,or 4 years
later could work and possibily keep from throwing too many characters In.
Throwing In tons of characters could lead to a repeat of The Last Stand.They should try to repeat X2.There you dropped Sabretooth,and Toad.Introduced Nightcrawler as new
X-Man.Beefed up Iceman and Pyro cameos.Brought In Stryker as villian,and had Deathstrike as henchwoman.Few people were coming away from X2 saying there were
too many characters.
The reason to go to 1970's Is to get to point where teenage Cyclops,Jean,and Storm
could be Introduced.If you say the X-Men trilogy took place In the 1990's you could
get away with having them as teens In a mid 1970's.You could get away with saying
they all 3 are In their 30's In trilogy.But none of that should happen till third film.
Make First Class set in the 60s as a continuation and later see where it should go next. I hope they don't divide the x-men franshise into trilogies as Last Stand should have been X-3 and 4 instead of trying to be a trilogy ender.
If they're smart they'll let Vaugh and Bryan do what they want, and if Vaugh indeed sees his involvement as 1 or 2 trilogies then there may be 6 movies counting with First Class that span the time from the 60s to the 90s and possibly the 21st century, while Bryan Singer ends the main movies storyline with his x-4 and 5.
And as a plus we still get The Wolverine and a Deadpool spin-off, i hope this all indeed hapens as it would give the Saga a begining and an ending, along with some funny insides of it with Deadpool
Phoenix_Flare
10-01-2011, 03:56 PM
I hear what you all are saying, but frankly I don't see nothing wrong with jumping ahead several yrs...they did it in First Class (40s-60s), "we" don't anything about Eric's life after the concentration camps, was he married, had children? These are things they left out(for a reason). I'm not saying to leave out the results/or response from the events in Cuba, but that can be told in the beginning of the film, like in news clips, etc.
I do think one of the "original" 3 from X-Men; should be introduced, I believe a young Jean could work, age 12-14, she's the youngest and the most powerful, the development of her powers would make for a great minor storyline, since TLS didn't do a good job & we could focus on her & Charles' relationship more.
Far as the Brotherhood is concern I would fine w/off screen deaths or captures i.e. Angel or Riptide, my reason being is that they really had no story and I feel like their characters will be similar to Colossus, Toad, and Sabretooh, just there! At least with Mystique, Emma, Azazel, and Eric you can develop those characters far more because they have so much history.
*side note, I would like to see a brotherhood member defect to the X-Men side, just think what if Scott was recruited by Eric? I know fan boys would have a fit, but it'll be a diff. take on his character and perhaps make him more interesting...
Silvermoth
10-22-2011, 05:39 PM
So Fox has had enough time to think now. What's going on with the sequel? Where is it? I need it!
(Hopefully they're just waiting for Matt Vaughn to finish some other projects he's doing before they announce their plans)
GhostPoet
10-24-2011, 01:31 PM
I don't want the sequel to go too far away from the era of the first film. there shouldn't be too large of a time difference. Maybe a few years, but not enough for Cyclops to be old enough to lead the team.
marvelrobbins
10-24-2011, 01:53 PM
On the SHH main page in comments on Interview James Mcavoy has done some of those
who earlier bashed First Class prior to release are wanting them to declare First Class
a reboot so they can bring In a bunch of characters from earlier film.More of those
pushing the reboot crap.
They really need to wait for third part of first Class trilogy before bringing In Cyclops
and Jean Grey(and I gurantee will Ignore the younger versions In Last stand and wolverine)
Electrix
11-01-2011, 12:12 PM
New interview with Jason Flemyng:
JonasRJakobsen: Loved you in First Class! You had the most interesting fight scenes I must say. Any plans for a sequel that you know of?
I’d love to do a sequel. We shot enough fight sequences to do an Azazel fight movie. But I don’t think that’s going to happen. The film had to take $350 million worldwide to merit a sequel. It took $356 million, so watch this space...
http://www.empireonline.com/interviews/interview.asp?IID=1378
Silvermoth
11-02-2011, 04:39 AM
Hmm, could go either way really. Please Fox, make a sequel! First Class had a bit of bad press because of the teaser images and previous films, if you make another it's bound to do much better!
blueserenity
11-02-2011, 06:15 AM
It's pretty borderline but I'm hoping strong DVD/BR sales will also be a motivating factor. It was just released in the UK a couple days ago and I get the impression it will do amazing over there (though I don't know where I'd find numbers on the sales).
Lasirius
11-03-2011, 06:51 PM
EXCLUSIVE: SIMON KINBERG WRITING X-MEN: FIRST CLASS SEQUEL
SuperHeroHype has learned that Simon Kinberg is writing the sequel to 20th Century Fox's X-Men: First Class, which has earned over $350 million since opening in theaters this June.
Kinberg produced the first film and was a writer on X-Men: The Last Stand. His other writing credits include Mr. & Mrs Smith, Jumper, Sherlock Holmes and the upcoming This Means War and Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter. He is a producer on the latter two as well and is a producer on Neill Blomkamp's next, Elysium.
While there is no confirmation, we assume Matthew Vaughn will be returning to the director's chair and the principal cast will reprise their roles, including James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Rose Byrne, January Jones and Jennifer Lawrence.
Ashley Edward Miller, Zack Stentz, Jane Goldman and Vaughn are the credited screenwriters of the first movie.
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/168795-exclusive-simon-kinberg-writing-x-men-first-class-sequel
Uh oh.
psyonic
11-03-2011, 07:22 PM
:/ And we're two steps back .. I hope they'll do tremendous re-writes but why would they hire him again???
Sky Captain
11-03-2011, 07:24 PM
Fox has an awful sense of humor.
Symbiotic
11-03-2011, 07:27 PM
Kinberg...*headdesk*
Avenger
11-03-2011, 08:08 PM
If Matthew Vaughn does come back to direct, I'm sure that he and his usual writing partner, Jane Goldman, will do a rewrite of the script like they did with the first movie.
Lasirius
11-03-2011, 09:35 PM
Who wrote the 1st draft?
blueserenity
11-03-2011, 10:35 PM
Who wrote the 1st draft?
I'm assuming this IS the first draft.
Lasirius
11-03-2011, 11:18 PM
That was a response to what Avenger said. He mentioned that when Matthew Vaughn came into the picture, he brought his team of writers and rewrote the script for X-Men: First Class -- giving the idea there was already a script before them, unless I misunderstood.
Who wrote the 1st draft?
Jamie Moss, who wasn't even given a final writing credit.
Lasirius
11-04-2011, 02:47 AM
Thanks! :up:
Silvermoth
11-04-2011, 05:15 AM
Oh no not bloody Kinberg! The guy who did X-men 3? Looks like Fox is gun shy and trying to get someone more commercial in. And they've been doing so well lately.
I hope what you guys are saying is true, that Matthew will be able to rewrite the script if he wants. If he walks off the movie, we'll all know the X-men are once again in danger.
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-04-2011, 07:48 AM
Vaughn not coming back would give me serious worries, i'm not happy about Kinberg coming back, but if Vaughn does my confidence in this being a good movie will definately go up.
Marvel
11-05-2011, 01:21 AM
Regardless, I wonder how committed they are to keeping things fully in line? Right now, with a little logic, First Class fits with the trilogy. They really can't play it coy any more from here on out. They either fit the pieces or declare First Class it's own reboot. If Kinberg doesn't bring back Magneto to help Charles build a Cerebro in the school and recruit Jean with the others then even comic book logic won't link the films. Xavier walking in X3 and the other things are just nitpicks that can be explained away at this point. The farther they go down the timeline, the time will come to choose.
henzINNIT
11-05-2011, 09:40 AM
Regardless, I wonder how committed they are to keeping things fully in line? Right now, with a little logic, First Class fits with the trilogy. They really can't play it coy any more from here on out. They either fit the pieces or declare First Class it's own reboot. If Kinberg doesn't bring back Magneto to help Charles build a Cerebro in the school and recruit Jean with the others then even comic book logic won't link the films. Xavier walking in X3 and the other things are just nitpicks that can be explained away at this point. The farther they go down the timeline, the time will come to choose.
I'm right there with you mate. First Class could take some liberties but it's time to fall in line or break away definitively.
Right now I would be sad to see the new series ignore the old, as I still think Singer's films are the best produced by Fox. That said, I think I'd rather ditch continuity completely over this frail, partially connected series.
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-05-2011, 12:35 PM
Regardless, I wonder how committed they are to keeping things fully in line? Right now, with a little logic, First Class fits with the trilogy. They really can't play it coy any more from here on out. They either fit the pieces or declare First Class it's own reboot. If Kinberg doesn't bring back Magneto to help Charles build a Cerebro in the school and recruit Jean with the others then even comic book logic won't link the films. Xavier walking in X3 and the other things are just nitpicks that can be explained away at this point. The farther they go down the timeline, the time will come to choose.
I think these are 2 things that definately need to happen in the next for movie or a third class, i'm sure they can come up with a reason for them teaming up again, its not like they departed on unfriendly terms in FC, they just realised they had different dreams. There are a number of reasons they could team up though, Sentinels, Sinister, Apocalypse, even Proteus if Moira is involved.
chaseter
11-05-2011, 01:21 PM
Simon Kinberg? Well there goes my hopes for the sequel.
Great Mind(s)
11-06-2011, 11:45 PM
In the sequel I want:
Magneto controlling the "magic bullet" that kills JFK.
Magneto trying to one-up Xavier before he can recruit new mutants by sending Emma Frost as his spokesperson.
Mystique is pregnant with Azazal's baby, Magneto kills him when it's revealed he raped her.
Xavier's new Cerebro fries as he discovers a young Jean.
Xavier + Emma Frost power struggle over young Jean a la Kitty Pryde. Emma will be working for Magneto but will eventually turn to Xavier's side.
Beast, Havoc + Banshee go to a club to find Dazzler.
Beast should wear a long trench coat and hat to hide.
Mystique has baby Nightcrawler and abandons him down a river.
Not sure what else should happen but they should build up something and after all is resolved, a portal opens and out pops Wolverine, Cable, Storm and Kitty Pryde (Ellen Page woot) and it'll tie into a new X-Men movie with both casts uniting.
Post credits: Ian McKellan vs Sentinels in the not too distant future.
Angamb
11-07-2011, 10:57 AM
In the sequel I want:
Mystique is pregnant with Azazal's baby, Magneto kills him when it's revealed he raped her.
as hard as it sounds, I think it would be a powerfull subplot, and shocking at the same time, specially for the audience these movies are made for.
Phoenix_Flare
11-07-2011, 03:13 PM
I doubt Mystique will be pregnant, she kind of didn't get in on any of the action, so I bet in a sequel she'll def. become the butt kickin chick in X1-3, the x-films aren't known for the family connections, so they probably won't have Azazel/Mystique/Kurt connection
Cherry
11-08-2011, 03:58 PM
Please, please give me Sinister and Apocalypse before the series is over. I don't care if they tweak their looks and backstories a bit -- but they need to be adapted!
Ultra Lantern
11-09-2011, 12:50 AM
In the sequel I want:
Magneto controlling the "magic bullet" that kills JFK.
Magneto trying to one-up Xavier before he can recruit new mutants by sending Emma Frost as his spokesperson.
Mystique is pregnant with Azazal's baby, Magneto kills him when it's revealed he raped her.
Xavier's new Cerebro fries as he discovers a young Jean.
Xavier + Emma Frost power struggle over young Jean a la Kitty Pryde. Emma will be working for Magneto but will eventually turn to Xavier's side.
Beast, Havoc + Banshee go to a club to find Dazzler.
Beast should wear a long trench coat and hat to hide.
Mystique has baby Nightcrawler and abandons him down a river.
Not sure what else should happen but they should build up something and after all is resolved, a portal opens and out pops Wolverine, Cable, Storm and Kitty Pryde (Ellen Page woot) and it'll tie into a new X-Men movie with both casts uniting.
Post credits: Ian McKellan vs Sentinels in the not too distant future.
I like your idea.I hope it happens.
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-09-2011, 03:35 AM
I doubt Mystique will be pregnant, she kind of didn't get in on any of the action, so I bet in a sequel she'll def. become the butt kickin chick in X1-3, the x-films aren't known for the family connections, so they probably won't have Azazel/Mystique/Kurt connection
While I would normally agree, I doubt they included Azazel for no reason, he wasnt part of the Hellfire Club in the comics I believe, and his powers are presented in exactly the same way as Nightcrawlers were in X2 but with a red bamf instead of blue. I think they do have plans for him.
Great Mind(s)
11-10-2011, 10:26 PM
I like your idea.I hope it happens.
Thanks me too but I doubt it. They should do it, try to compete with the Marvel movie franchise. If they connected the two series (even three with The Wolverine) it could potentially kick serious ass. :hrt:
Hypestyle
11-24-2011, 10:34 PM
I would prefer a mid 1960s setting rather than jumping to the early 1970s. I'm not sure what historical event(s) they would try to insinuate themselves in. Might as well get involved in the assassinations of JFK, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy, civil rights riots, the Vietnam escalation/Tet Offensive..
Avenger
11-26-2011, 09:46 PM
I agree, I hope they keep it in the '60s. There's so much stuff left in that decade they could explore, it'd be a waste to jump so far ahead into the '70s.
I'd like to see them use Omega Red at some point. He'd fit in perfectly with the Cold War theme of these movies.
dylan
11-26-2011, 10:13 PM
i know this is pretty much my first post but i hope someone will read it. after watching first class on dvd and reading through this thread here are my ideas for sequals that keep all of the movies mostly in line. i had some general ideas and pulled some from posts in here that i thought sounded interesting
i think from this point we have two separate stories that are intertwined (magnetos and charles)
fc-2
-magneto takes the brotherhood to the savage land and tries to start a mutant safe haven there (like genosha). mystique and azazel start a relationship as well as magneto and a woman from savage land
-charles is trying to start his school (not sure who, if anyone, to introduce here...maybe pre-teen jean gray, i liked that idea)
-the government is trying to get move involved in mutants, you have two characters leading that on opposite ends, forge and essex
-moira doesnt like the way the government are handling this (i gathered she still remembered everything up to the beach scene in first class, so remembers charles and everyone else) and leaves to pursue her mutant research on muir island
-havok takes an interest in the government side of things and leans more towards helping forge
-essex sees the potential in havok (bringing in his ties to the summers family) and tries to bring him to the dark side of the government. since we know nothing of havoks past in the movies at this point in can be discovered he is an orphan and knows nothing of his family (leaving it open for cyclops to be revealed as his brother in a later movie)
-with essex being the evil side of the government it can show how and the mail villian it can show how charles and magneto are drifting further apart in their ideals in how they handle this threat
-the movie would end with essex revealing who he truly is and kicking the brotherhood out of the savage land and taking it, then magneto back in poland or wherever with his new family (quicksilver and scarlet witch) and then post credit scene with mystique pushing baby nightcrawler down the river
(sorry this is a lot more than i planned to write)
fc-3
-havok ends up siding with forge and the leaves x-men for the government and forms x-factor
-banshee (somehow) has a developing relationship with moira and leaves the team to goto muir island
-beast decides to leave x-men to get into politics to defend mutant rights
-charles focuses his energy on jean gray
-have magneto raising his children to be a part of his brotherhood, but have them questioning if what their father believes in is right or not
-bring in striker as a villian which at this point will bring us up to x-men origins wolverine
-with the x-men all gone but a very young jean, he searches out and finds cyclops thus the end of wolverine where he has his new team that consists of jean, cyclops, quicksilver and whoever else was with them at the end (i cant remember right now)
this is the end of the trilogy of those characters, but now we can start a new one with his new class
the fourth movie can deal with sinister realizing cyclops is a summers and bringing him back as the villian, the relationship between scott and jean and professor x recruiting storm
i know theres a lot of plot holes here, but im not trying to write a full story, just some ideas on where they can go from here
demitri_vampiro
12-05-2011, 11:41 AM
i'm just wondering how many more movies willl have magneto as villain. x-men have a rich rooster of cool villains, yet none of them are used yet.
i wanna see sinister, sentinels, genosha
a nice story would be mutant massacre. nice way to introduce gambit and sinister.
Great Mind(s)
12-06-2011, 08:35 PM
I like the idea of Magneto taking the brotherhood to a safe haven like Genosha.
a nice story would be mutant massacre. nice way to introduce gambit and sinister.
Mutant massacre. The Morlocks. The Marauders. Sinister. Gambit... now THAT would make a fantastic X-Men movie. That's the one i've been waiting for! But there's so many little pieces you'd have to introduce to create that. Way too much for FC2...but perhaps someday my friend.
I think the bottom line in the future of these movies is this....YES, we all want to see Cyclops, Jean, Gambit, Storm, Sinister, Apocolypse, etc etc...but most of us can agree it's too soon. Character development and a good story is THE KEY. But if Fox is clever, like MARVEL, they should start planting the seeds for the future. Slowly introduce ideas, concepts, etc that can later be used.
THEY NEED A PLAN. Are they gonna make X4 or not? if so, they need to start building towards that, otherwise just start over! there's no point trying to making everything link up to a trilogy that whilst had moments of brilliance, ultimately left most of us feeling highly unsatisfied.
storyteller
12-24-2011, 09:40 PM
I would rather they not try to force in the continuity. FC2 should focus on the mutants we saw. It shouldn't just be a way to explain how we got to X-men. If they want X-men 4 then use FC to build the story. X-men missed out making the X-men a real team. It was just Wolverine while the others did some clean up. Honestly I think they should approch it like X-men 1-3 don't exist. Alternatively save Cyclops by bringing in Cable and some AOA type situation. To save the future, the screwed over X-man Cyclops must change the past.
Rockstar
01-06-2012, 10:56 PM
I wanted FC to be a reboot of continuity.........
But then why'd they have to use Jackman as Wolverine? It makes things really messy.
AVEITWITHJAMON
01-07-2012, 04:11 AM
Simple, because it wasnt a re-boot. It was never meant to be, it was just a prequel that took some liberties.
marvelrobbins
01-07-2012, 11:00 AM
The entire promational campagin for First Class was on It being a Prequel.There are several things that connect It to earlier films.Or at Least X-Men and X2.
If you watch First Class,X-Men,and X2 they work better well together.
I generally hate reboots.They are cheap way.I don't like spending more on tickets and DVDs(and some who also buy Blu-Ray) only to then they turn around and say guess what as far as we are corncern the films you like and spent money on never happened.
henzINNIT
01-08-2012, 04:49 AM
I too bear a grudge with reboots and generally find them to be incredibly lazy and unnecessarily disruptive to the fanbase of the particular property. Batman Begins set an unfortunate trend, however that with a franchise that obviously needed a fresh start. The same can't be said for many others.
Unfortunately I find it just as bad to make a prequel that tramples existing continuity. Some liberties can be taken, but with this series, I fear how far the producers are willing to push the bounds of reason. I don't want to have to do mental gymnastics in order to enjoy a film that should connect to established canon that doesn't.
marvelrobbins
01-30-2012, 12:46 PM
I firmly believe If you view first Class as simply prequel to X-Men and X2 things work
better.Yes some libertiers are taken with dialogue.But,not enough to ruin your enjoyment
of the films.With the Last Stand It IS more obvious they are Ignoring a lot more.
First Class can't be seen as reboot.Especilly with all connections to Bryan Singer's films.
I firmly believe as long as he Is producer on this trilogy we can expect a few liberties with X-Men and X2 but not outright Ignoring of those films.
jacobed
01-30-2012, 12:59 PM
its great to see Vaughn is now back for the sequel
marvelrobbins
01-30-2012, 01:06 PM
I agree with that.Him and SInger back again working together Is great news.This will
be first time since X2 the franchise has had the team back together Instead of new
people coming in.We are probally looking at 2014 release.Especilly If both The Wolverine
and Deadpool out In 2013.The problem Is even with Hugh Jackman back as Wolverine
some will be more eager for the First Class sequel than The Wolverine.
demitri_vampiro
01-30-2012, 01:44 PM
singer back on x-men project means only bad news.
i am deffinitely not that interested in this one anymore. had some hope for first class, but
after i saw the movie, i could see singer's wrongdoings and as long as he is involved with x-movies, i have no interest
Sebastos
01-30-2012, 01:48 PM
Very pleased to hear Vaughn is back for the sequel.
AVEITWITHJAMON
01-31-2012, 02:39 AM
To say i'm delighted that Vaughn is back is an understatement, I loved First Class, and he brought a fresh energy to the franchise that has been missing since the amazing X2. If he manages to surpass FC with its sequel, we may be in for the best movie of the franchise.
psylockolussus
02-09-2012, 04:24 AM
I hope it gets a 2015 release date and a rewrite for the writers of X-Men: First Class!
Cherry
02-09-2012, 02:12 PM
Why 2015? That's way too long -- four years. The fact that they've already got Vaughn makes me think it will happen sooner rather than later. Keep in mind The Wolverine was originally intended to come out this year before the delay(s). So Second Class coming out a year after The Wolverine's 2013 release sounds reasonable.
Cherry
02-09-2012, 02:13 PM
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Cherry
02-09-2012, 02:18 PM
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Cherry
02-09-2012, 02:18 PM
Ahh, dangit. Internet's acting up on me. Edit.
Cagefighterkip
02-09-2012, 06:27 PM
Didn't the actor who played Azazel say something about possibly shooting this year (in an interview) or did I imagine that? IF it does shoot this year than that means it's a 2013 release more than likely.
Imagine a year with WOLVERINE 2 and FIRST CLASS 2 the same summer.
Cagefighterkip
02-09-2012, 06:27 PM
Woopsy, double post.
marvelrobbins
02-09-2012, 06:32 PM
I think we are looking at 2014 release.It will likely go Into production late summer/Fall 2013.Perhapes a late may 2014 release.Sony Is planning on the Amazing SPider-Man sequel for first friday In May 2014 assuming first film Is a hit.
Vaughn and Jane Goldman without question willrewrite the script.Simon Kinberg Is writing first draft.Just like Brayn Singer devolped story and oversaw first writer working on draft.
Kinberg was key member of First Class team.I am sure he has discussed with Vaughn and Singer their Ideas for the sequel.
Cagefighterkip
02-09-2012, 06:36 PM
I think we are looking at 2014 release.
I'd be okay with that. Sooner the better though.
Zelkar
02-13-2012, 12:25 AM
Doesnt make financial sense to release more than one x movie a year if they have deadpool, wolverine and xmen they will just be competing with themselves, i think its gonna be wolverine 2 in 2013, xmen first class 2 in 2014 then prolly deadpool in 2015. That makes the most sense to me, stagger the releases to maximize profits. Either way there probably all going to suck anyway lol so were having this disussion only to be dissapointed year after year for the next 4 years.
Wolverine completely butchered the story so bad i cant see anyway to recover it in the sequel short of starting over. And first class was an absolute abomination and seeing as how they brought back the same director and producer its looking like fc2 will be just as bad if not worse. And deadpool... Thats the only one i have high hopes for so far its untainted(more or less) so well see how that goes.
def28
02-13-2012, 04:58 AM
First Class is a solid flick. Definitely not the X Men movie I wanted to see but
overall good movie imo.
Word was that Deadpool would be shooting by this year. Fingers crossed. Hope we dont have to wait till 2015 for Deadpool. First Class 2 doesnt have a script yet so I can see them taking a bit more time on that one.
It would be nice one of these days to see an X movie with the team in modern times again, or....an Uncanny X Force more adult flick. Psylocke, Deadpool,Fantomex, Wolverine and Archangel are a much more marketable team then Havok, Pixie Angel, Banshee, Darwin and Beast. I feel like the First Class franchise has to limit itself because of the time period with character interactions, tech and familiar comic arcs so my hype for part 2 isnt so high.
psylockolussus
02-13-2012, 11:22 PM
I think we are looking at 2014 release.It will likely go Into production late summer/Fall 2013.Perhapes a late may 2014 release.Sony Is planning on the Amazing SPider-Man sequel for first friday In May 2014 assuming first film Is a hit.
Vaughn and Jane Goldman without question willrewrite the script.Simon Kinberg Is writing first draft.Just like Brayn Singer devolped story and oversaw first writer working on draft.
Kinberg was key member of First Class team.I am sure he has discussed with Vaughn and Singer their Ideas for the sequel.
Yeah you're quite right with that and I always say the earlier the better.
And a 4 years gap is too long, I'll be delighted if it gets a 2014 release date.
Spider-Man101
02-15-2012, 06:40 PM
I haven't heard it mentioned in any of the First Class boards, but if they do a sequel, which I hope and introduce Scott (eventually they will) would anyone mind the actor who portrayed Scott in X-Men Origins: Wolverine...
...I think the actor at least looked the part okay...
When they do eventually have him in there, I think he'd be the right kid to play him, cause he looks the part, in my opinion he acted pretty good, and he matches the ages of the other X-Men, I just hope they actually use him, and not take him out all the time like in the other movies.
Spider-Man101
02-15-2012, 06:47 PM
Also just as a little note, I think somewhere the director said he wanted keep everyone from the first film and maybe add 1 or 2 new characters.
Jordacar
02-17-2012, 12:13 PM
I just realized something. FC showed that we can have a successful X-Men movie without Wolverine. But I wonder, when are we gonna see a successful X-Men movie without Magneto?
Zelkar
02-17-2012, 09:49 PM
I just realized something. FC showed that we can have a successful X-Men movie without Wolverine. But I wonder, when are we gonna see a successful X-Men movie without Magneto?
Except Wolverine WAS in it, albeit for like 3 seconds but none the less that was the ONLY good part to the movie...so it appears you cant have one without the other lol.
anyway i think a magneto-free Xmen movie could be very doable, sure not ideal cuz i mean its magneto you want to see him but it could be done and could be done well. There is lots of other Xmen villains to choose from.
First thing that comes to mind is Krakoa. personally i think that would be a great movie to see, would be something really different, watching Xmen fight a living, sentient island, how they have to adapt there tactics as opposed to fighting a normal super villain.
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