You're a Jive Soul Bro, a Jive Soul Bro, Always Lying To Your Wrestling Thread

[louiebling$]

That's because everyone ignored them. You should have gotten them to open up. Probably never met a fan before.
Yea probably lol I told trent that I enjoyed his match and he said thanks

[Metallo]

If the WWE inducts a celebrity into its Hall of Fame this year....it needs to be Cindy Lauper.

I honestly think think that when you really look at things she deserves to go in more than most celebs already in or that are discussed for the HOF.

She was a big part of the "Rock n' Wrestling" connection that really helped light WWF on fire in he 80's. The Brawl For It All, The War To Settle The Score, and any other stuff WWF did with MTV back then were very successful and really helped take WWE mainstream. She did it and and then more and more musicians and celebrities got on board. She was even at Wrestlemania I.

It was a lot more than The Fridge ever did for WWE IMO to get into the HOF. If he's in I say why not put her in?

Her, Trump, Mr T, and a few others are celebs that I don't mind in the HOF because they actually did more than one shot with WWF/E and what they did was pretty entertaining. Bob Uecker was just awesome.

[Pink Ranger]

Uecky needs to be in there, just so he can be strangled by Big Show or Khali.

[Metallo]

I was reading on wikipedia and saw this.

In October 2004, Pat Patterson retired from World Wrestling Entertainment. One of his last acts was a report for WWE which claimed that too much time was being devoted to Triple H (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_H), the son-in-law of Vince McMahon.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]

Patterson returned to WWE in a limited capacity in May 2005. While he is now retired as a producer for WWE, he still acts as a consultant.

Since its Wikipedia who knows if its true. Anybody have any idea of how valid this info is? If its true it kind of says thats wrong with WWE doesn't it?

[Project862006]

Raw got a 3.9 rating

[NDX]

Yea probably lol I told trent that I enjoyed his match and he said thanks

You should have asked him who in NXT rookie would be for season 6.

[louiebling$]

You should have asked him who in NXT rookie would be for season 6.
Yea but they were kinda in a hurry had a flight to catch

[ALP]

Yesterday night I saw a full episode of Raw for the first time in about two years. With Hunter and Taker returning I think I came in for the right time. Seeing some of these new stars is really strange b/c I've got to get use to them. Last time I remember Miz he was a lame jobber or SD or ECW... now he is main eventing Mania... talk about strange.

I totally see Rock inteferring in the match at Mania and causing Cena to lose...hopefully. Only circumstances I would want to see Miz win.

[Metallo]

Vince High on Cole and Lawler's Storyline, Who Will Call Mania?, More

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- WWE is not concerned about the Georgia Dome in Atlanta being full for WrestleMania as ticket sales have topped 50,000 and business signs for the city are considered strong.

- It's said that Vince McMahon is loving the current Michael Cole vs. Jerry Lawler storyline as he gets to live vicariously through Cole. Most of Cole's key lines on TV are fed to him by Vince. The current angle with Cole and Lawler is being patterned after Lawler's most famous angle ever, the one in the early 80's with comedian Andy Kaufman.

- There is some speculation as to who will be announcing WrestleMania 27 as the feeling is it doesn't make much sense to have Jerry Lawler and Michael Cole call most of it and then work a match against each other. Jim Ross is always being speculated on for a return but at last year's WrestleMania, early plans were for him to announce but he didn't. Shawn Michaels and Undertaker even requested that Ross work the pay-per-view but it wasn't the direction that Vince McMahon wanted.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Backstage News on Triple H & Undertaker's Current Storyline

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- Triple H and The Undertaker are the ones putting together their current program for WrestleMania 27, with minimal input from WWE creative.

Taker was originally scheduled to face Wade Barrett and Triple H was set to face Sheamus at WrestleMania but the two got together and realized that WrestleMania 27 had no special match. As WWE's two most power political forces, they felt they could take control of their own angle without much in the way of outside influence.

Shawn Michaels is still expected to be introduced into the storyline and have a role at WrestleMania, possibly as a referee or an enforcer. The idea behind the storyline is that Triple H is going at Taker for revenge after Taker ended his best friend's career.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


WWE Tough Enough Compared to Hogan Knows Best, More on the Show's Return

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- The producers of Tough Enough took the contestant's cell phones and computers away upon arrival in the Simi Valley, California house. The contestants aren't allowed to have any contact with friends or family for seven weeks, unless it's an emergency.

It's believed that at least one of the male contestants and one of the female contestants are from FCW and that two of the women have relationships with fairly well-known wrestling personalities. The male star believed to be from FCW is described as someone who is wild and will instigate drama.

It's said that the revival of Tough Enough will be more scripted than in the past, which is interesting because WWE is promoting it as "unscripted TV." The show is being described as more "Hogan Knows Best" than "Ultimate Fighter."

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


WWE Cracks Down on Marijuana, Use Said To Be Lowest in History

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- It's said that right now, the level of WWE talents smoking pot is probably the lowest in the history of the company. A lot of people are now using a marijuana substitute that beats the drug tests after WWE implemented $2,500 fines. There's also a feeling that you will start losing matches if you test positive.

WWE got stricter on pot testing with some talents as they sent testers to their homes to perform the tests. In other cases, some stars would get phone calls at random times when they were at home, telling them they have one hour to get to a testing facility.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Concern for The Undertaker, Austin & Tough Enough at WrestleMania, More

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- Top WWE stars like The Undertaker, Edge, Triple H, John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Big Show and others are traveling in top of the line tour buses, which is a tax deductible business expense. For televised WWE events, Cena travels with Michael Cole as the two are best friends.

- There is some concern on The Undertaker as his recuperation from the recent surgery is going slower than they had hoped for, even though he's worked hard with physical therapy. Taker's match with Triple H at WrestleMania 27 is expected to be the main event.

- An appearance at WrestleMania 27 by Steve Austin is highly likely as there is talk of presenting the Tough Enough cast to everyone at the big show in Atlanta.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


WWE RAW Rating Up This Week, Carlito Challenging for NWA Title

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- Former WWE star Carlito will challenge Adam Pearce for the NWA World Title on February 27th in Brownsville, Texas at a RGV Wrestling show in the Amigoland Convention Center. The co-main event that night will see Sean Waltman take on Tanaka.

- Monday night's episode of WWE Monday Night RAW with the returns of Triple H and The Undertaker scored a 3.9 cable rating with 5.8 million viewers, according to Jim Ross on his Twitter. This is the best number for RAW in a while.


Madusa Comments On Possible WWE Return, Whatever Happened To The Mountie?

Posted by PWPIX (danndogg75@yahoo.com) on 02/23/2011

-- Former Intercontinental Champion The Mountie is profiled in WWE.com's latest "Where Are They Now?" feature. The wrestler formerly known as The Mountie recalls his early days in WWE and gives his account of jabbing The Dynamite Kid in the locker room. (Catching up with The Mountie: Part 1 (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/wherearetheynow/mountiepart1))

-- Madusa, who dropped the WWF Women's Championship in a trash can during a live episode of WCW Monday Nitro in December 1995, indicated on her official website that she would not mind returning to World Wrestling Entertainment to bring closure to the ordeal. She disclosed the idea she has in mind if she were to return to the promotion.

"I do miss wrestling only cause I am not done... I have ONE thing to finish and that is the TRUE championship... The real belt from the WWF that Made the WWE... I still hold the title, I still have the belt.... not done.. however.. if nothing did happen, it's ok because I went out still a champion and if I do put a closure to IT... I will rest in peace with out haunting the WWE!

"Who ever the champion is will be the one I have an angle with or create an angle to make a new champion.. or as a tag partner.... miss McCool...."

-- The February 19 episode of A.M. Raw featuring the WWE return of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson scored a 0.79 cable rating, with 872,000 viewers.

source: PWInsider.com


Paul Bearer on His Future with WWE, the Storyline with Edge and More

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

Ring The Bell Radio with Paul Bearer
Hosts: Matt and J.D.
Full audio available at RingTheBellRadio.com

Going back to WWE last September:
"As I always said never say never. The WWE contacted me about coming back and I told them no. Then they had some of my friends (Kane, Undertaker) call me too. After about 6 weeks of this I finally agreed to come back. I didn't want to come back and work the long road schedule. I signed a 6 month contract, knew exactly what they were going to do with my character. It was fun to be back with the boys."

Being abducted by Edge:
"A lot of people kept saying, 'Oh I can't believe Edge hit you with a dodge ball in the head, I can't believe he pour the marinara sauce all of you!' Let me just say (not the I'm bragging) on top of my contract the WWE cut me a bonus check for all of that, I would say that bonus check for just that segment was more than anyone listening would make in a month, so I had no problem with it."

His future involvement with WWE:
"Like I said before, never say never but I'm happy now spending time with my family. I will be at Wrestlemania, not involved with the actual Wrestlemania show but I will be at the WWE Access that happens that weekend and I am looking forward to that!"

Paul also talks about his possible appearance in an upcoming WWE video game (WWE All Stars) and then takes a question from a fan. The question seemed to upset Paul and he quickly left the show. This prompted former WWF Superstar Jim Powers (who was listening to the show) to call into the show and sound off on Paul Bearer, John Cena and a number of other topics!


Another Tough Enough Contestant, WWE Cancels a DVD Set, HHH DVD News

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- WWEDVDNews reports that the "RAW: Best of Seasons 3 & 4" DVD set for later this year has been canceled by WWE. The reason for the set being nixed is low sales of the first "RAW: Best Of" set that came out in 2010, covering 1993-1994. WWE is still planning on releasing all of the RAW seasons in the "Best Of" format in the future but for now it's on hold.

WWE has also postponed the Triple H DVD and Blu-ray set that was planned for late 2011. The Triple H feature is now planned for a 2012 release.

- It's being reported that long-time independent wrestler Matt "M-Dogg" Cross is a part of the new WWE Tough Enough cast. As noted yesterday, sources say that California wrestler "Big Nasty" Jason Watts is also on the cast and Miss USA Rima Fakih is confirmed as a contestant. The four trainers on the show will be Steve Austin, Booker T, Trish Stratus and Bill DeMott.


Undertaker Appears After SmackDown, More Superstars Matches, Dark Match

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- The dark match before last night's WWE tapings in Sacramento, California saw Percy Watson defeat Chavo Guerrero.

- Matches taped last night for Thursday's WWE Superstars saw Chris Masters take on Tyler Reks and the WWE Tag Team Champions Heath Slater & Justin Gabriel vs. JTG & Trent Baretta.

- As noted before, WWE had been advertising The Undertaker's return to SmackDown for last night's tapings in Sacramento. Taker did make an appearance but it was brief and during the dark main event that saw Big Show and Edge defeat The Corre and Alberto Del Rio in a handicap match, when Show chokeslammed Wade Barrett.

Rey Mysterio was advertised to be on Show and Edge's team but did not wrestle. Taker's return came during the match, appearing on the ramp and then disappearing, according to a fan in attendance.


WWE Announcements Coming This Week, Ziggler Update, One Year of NXT

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- Today marks the one-year anniversary of WWE NXT. The show debuted on February 23rd, 2010 on SyFy. NXT remained on SyFy until September 28th of last year and is currently finishing up it's fourth season.

- Dolph Ziggler continues to push his current WWE storyline on Twitter. He wrote the following last night:

"Just got my first call for a possible booking, since being fired! Very exciting... My agency is William Morris, no televised bookings until after 5/12/11 Let the countdown begin! 90, 89, 88, 87, 86...."

- WWE will be revealing major international news this week as Evan Bourne is heading to Brazil on Wednesday and Jim Ross is headed to Mexico on Thursday. Bourne is expected to announce an upcoming WWE tour of Brazil while Ross said on his website that he will be taking part in a "major, groundbreaking, WWE news event" in Mexico.


More Hype for Rock-Cena-Miz, MVP Comments on Partner's Arrest, NXT Note

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- As noted before, MVP's original tag team partner for his New Japan debut was arrested over the weekend for stealing a taxi. MVP wrote the following on Twitter about NOSAWA and his troubles: "Best wishes to my man @NOSAWARONGAI187 ! He's a good guy that allowed alcohol to influence him to make a bad decision. Ganbatte kudasai!"

- Besides pre-taped backstage segments, the WWE Pros were kept off last night's episode of WWE NXT. WWE did air John Cena's battle rap from RAW in it's entirety on last night's NXT show.

- WWE continues to feul the hype around The Rock, John Cena, The Miz and WrestleMania 27 with a new Twitter list they have set up at twitter.com/WWE/rock-miz-cena-17. The list's description reads like this: "Follow tweets between WWE Champion The Miz, John Cena & The Rock leading up to WrestleMania XXVII!"


Vince McMahon Comments on WrestleMania, New Referee Called Up, More

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- WWE has opened up a Twitter account for their WWE Classics service at @WWEClassicsWeb.

- Chris Jericho will be appearing on TBS' The George Lopez show later tonight.

- Florida Championship Wrestling referee Tony Smith noted on Twitter that he has been called up to WWE's main roster and leaves for the road this Saturday.

- Vince McMahon spoke with The Miami Herald recently and described WrestleMania with the following words:

"You can liken it somewhat to the Super Bowl, I suppose, but the other aspect of it is it’s a hybrid of all forms of sport entertainment rolled into one. There’s nothing like WrestleMania. It’s like the Super Bowl combined with a Broadway play. Maybe throw in a little demolition derby along with maybe Disney On Ice. It’s a combination of so many things, and you’ve never seen anything like WrestleMania before. It’s a once-in-a-lifetime event. To be there, to see it, to feel it, to experience it, and you have to really see it to believe it."


JR Blog: Cole's Promo, HHH vs. Taker on RAW, Trip to Mexico for WWE, More

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/22/2011

- Jim Ross is back with another blog on jrsbarbq.com. Here are some highlights:

JR going to Mexico for WWE:
"I will be flying to Mexico City this week to take part in a major, groundbreaking, WWE news event on Thursday afternoon. I, along with others from WWE, will be at Vive Cuervo Salon in Mexico City for the 3:30 pm event. It's FREE to the public but I suggest that if you are attending that you arrive early to secure your place in what promises to be a historic event for WWE in the tradition rich, grappling city of Mexico City. The doors open at 2 p.m."

Hacksaw Duggan in the Hall of Fame:
"Congrats to Hacksaw Jim Duggan on the announcement that 'Hack' is going into the WWE Hall of Fame this year. The Glens Falls, New York native is one of the distinguished, Mid South Wrestling alums who learned his skills under the watchful and demanding eye of Cowboy Bill Watts. Jim became a huge star in Mid South before venturing 'up north' to take his skills to WWE."

Road Warriors possible in the Hall:
"The Road Warriors are certainly deserving of WWE HOF honors and this could well be their year in Atlanta. How could anyone of sanity not think that the Legion of Doom would not be WWE HOF worthy?"

WWE going TV-14:
"Can we stop with the TV14 questions? For some reason, folks think that because Rock and then John Cena got edgy with their in ring promos in recent RAWS that perhaps WWE is going back to a more risqué presentation ala a TV14 format. I don't speak for WWE but going all the way back to TV14 would shock me. I'm not a guy who lives or dies by a TV rating but rather judges a wrestling, TV show by what I see in the ring headlined by high quality, physical wrestling action and not by the use of edgy language even though I do enjoy that too when effectively utilized. I will admit that in the past two weeks that I have been pleasantly surprised by some of the verbiage on MNR. I have grandkids and I would have had no issues with them watching Raw with me."

Triple H and Undertaker:
"It's been years since I witnessed a more effective TV segment on any wrestling program where not a word was said as I experienced Monday night between the Undertaker and HHH. Amazing stuff for this old schooler as the two, future WWE Hall of Fame icons sold tickets and PPV's with their eyes and well earned reputations. This segment was so good that I went back and watched it again and then had to show the 'moment' to my wife when she arrived home."

Michael Cole's promo on RAW:
"Did Michael Cole step over the line Monday night when he spoke of Jerry Lawler's recently deceased mother? Many of you think that he did. I was very uncomfortable with the remark but my wife gasped when she heard it. It would seem to me that specific subject matter will likely not be revisited in upcoming weeks but if it is it won't be without controversy. Very touchy subject matter, without question."



WWE's plan to debut Lucha star Mistico
» Reported by Steve Gerweck (betweentheropes@hotmail.com) of Wrestleview.com (http://www.wrestleview.com/)
» On February 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm

The current plan for the recently signed lucha star Mistico (http://gerweck.net/2009/10/12/mistico/) is to debut on the WWE main roster, as opposed to spending extensive time learning the WWE ring style with Florida Championship Wrestling in Tampa, reports The Wrestling Observer Newsletter (http://www.f4wonline.com/). WWE wants Mistico to also learn to speak English. If they follow through with the plan, Mistico would debut with a new ring name and newly designed mask. However, WWE would still want the Mexican-American fans to know it is Mistico.

[bullets]

I honestly think think that when you really look at things she deserves to go in more than most celebs already in or that are discussed for the HOF.

She was a big part of the "Rock n' Wrestling" connection that really helped light WWF on fire in he 80's. The Brawl For It All, The War To Settle The Score, and any other stuff WWF did with MTV back then were very successful and really helped take WWE mainstream. She did it and and then more and more musicians and celebrities got on board. She was even at Wrestlemania I.

It was a lot more than The Fridge ever did for WWE IMO to get into the HOF. If he's in I say why not put her in?

Her, Trump, Mr T, and a few others are celebs that I don't mind in the HOF because they actually did more than one shot with WWF/E and what they did was pretty entertaining. Bob Uecker was just awesome.


I'm really surprised Cyndi Lauper hasn't been inducted yet. Mr T would of been perfect for around the time Hogan returned . I think he needs to go in, maybe inducted by Piper.

[Metallo]

Earl and Brian Hebner talk screwjob, Vince, Bret
» Reported by Steve Gerweck (betweentheropes@hotmail.com) of Wrestleview.com (http://www.wrestleview.com/)
» On February 23, 2011 at 8:22 pm

from Arda Ocal:

Arda Ocal and Jimmy Korderas recently caught up with Earl & Brian Hebner in PART II of Right After Wrestling's "Referee Series". Highlights:

- Brian used to ride with Jimmy and Tony Chimel : "(that was) the best time of my career in this business!"

- Earl's debut in the WWE was in 1988 on Saturday Nights Main Event during the legendary 'Twin referee' spot against Andre the Giant. "(Brian) I was actually confused when I saw dad on TV. I was actually convincing myself that it was my uncle (Dave). He called me earlier in the day and sai 'do me a favour, watch WWE tonight'"

Earl Hebner on kayfabe – "I was always a secretive man. I never gave away nothing. Never told anybody nothing. And if I didn't tell my son, then you knew I wasn't going to tell anybody anything. Kayfabe is long-gone! It doesn't even exist anymore. Years ago (when I first started) kayfabe was a 'golden word' in this business – and it no longer means anything anymore"

Brian Hebner on kayfabe – "My dad has kayfabed me in a good way throughout this business, my whole entire career, which I do to my son/kids all the time. "

Earl Hebner – When Vince (McMahon) announced that wrestling was entertainment, that sort of thing took the business down. He (Vince) made it a soap-opera instead of it being the wrestling business.

Earl Hebner on the Montreal Screwjob – "When people ask if I 'screwed Bret', I say 'ya damn right I did! When I was walking to that ring, I was thinking Bret wasn't screwing Vince, he was screwing everybody in that dressing room. I didn't do it for Vince (McMahon) I did it for all the boys in the lockerroom – for everybody that ever put him over in that ring."

Brian Hebner on the Montreal Screwjob – "My dad did what he did because he wanted to protect the company and the people he worked with/for"

Earl Hebner on reconciling with Bret (years) afterwards – He saw me and said I know you did what you had to do and I'm no longer mad at you. I said 'thank you' to him and that was that.

Earl Hebner on ref bumps (specifically in TNA) – When you get bumped, it hurts. I'm 62 years old and I'm not the same guy I used to be and it kills me. I don't wanna be bumped by anybody – it kills me, it hurts me.

Brian Hebner on ref bumps – I'm very instrumental on the ref-bumps that I take. We (Jimmy & Brian) had a book of bumps that we could take.

Brian on being a Hebner – "I always wanna be known as Earl Hebner's son because there's no shame in that. But I don't wanna just be known as Earl Hebner's son. I knew I was in a (ref) spot because of my dad, but I also knew I was in that spot because of what I could bring to the table"

Brian has a son (Trevor) who is coming up and will be the 'next-generation' Hebner in professional wrestling.

Find Brian Hebner on Twitter @babyhebner

Earl & Brian Hebner also touch on the art of the ref bump, and offers Jimmy a job, selling t-shirts, the brotherhood of referees, the bromance between Jimmy & Earl + so much more!

FULL 30+ MINUTE INTERVIEW: http://radio.thescore.com/episodes/earl-and-brian-hebner-interview-feb-21-2011

RIGHT AFTER WRESTLING RADIO

WITH ARDA OCAL AND JIMMY KORDERAS

MONDAYS, 11:05PM - MIDNIGHT EST

THE SCORE ON SIRIUS RADIO 98
ITUNES: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/right-after-wrestling/id379948064

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Backstage News on Triple H & Undertaker's Current Storyline


- Triple H and The Undertaker are the ones putting together their current program for WrestleMania 27, with minimal input from WWE creative.

Taker was originally scheduled to face Wade Barrett and Triple H was set to face Sheamus at WrestleMania but the two got together and realized that WrestleMania 27 had no special match. As WWE's two most power political forces, they felt they could take control of their own angle without much in the way of outside influence.

Shawn Michaels is still expected to be introduced into the storyline and have a role at WrestleMania, possibly as a referee or an enforcer. The idea behind the storyline is that Triple H is going at Taker for revenge after Taker ended his best friend's career.




That's good to hear. I like Michaels involvement in the storyline but not sure about his involvement in the match.

It was a good segment but got a little corny at the end. My only problem is Sheamus not getting taken out by Triple H during his match with Mark Henry. If this gets completely ignored it would be ridiculous as Undertaker not going after Kane and Barret .



- WWEDVDNews reports that the "RAW: Best of Seasons 3 & 4" DVD set for later this year has been canceled by WWE. The reason for the set being nixed is low sales of the first "RAW: Best Of" set that came out in 2010, covering 1993-1994. WWE is still planning on releasing all of the RAW seasons in the "Best Of" format in the future but for now it's on hold.
:cmad: This is like those Survivor Series sets , never going to be completed. I wonder why WWE took forever to do best of sets anyway. They should of started in the early 2000's

[ALP]

I heard about a Taker/Kane storyline with Paul Bearer last year. Too bad I missed that!

Oh...also read Austin is hosting a new tough enough. I don't get it...if Steve Austin is still involved in wwe why place him in a crappy show no one will watch? He should get a weekly role on Raw.

[BlackLantern]

he probably doesn't want to be on the road again, and at this point in his life, he really doesn't need to be

[bullets]

I heard about a Taker/Kane storyline with Paul Bearer last year. Too bad I missed that!

Oh...also read Austin is hosting a new tough enough. I don't get it...if Steve Austin is still involved in wwe why place him in a crappy show no one will watch? He should get a weekly role on Raw.



Well the storyline wasn't something rave about but I enjoyed their set of matches.


Austin on the other hand was probably offered a lot of money by Shed Media.. idk..... Another thing Austin said on his twitter his character would never work in the PG era and we won't see much of him on Raw anymore.

Also what Blacklantern said.

[NDX]

Gerweck.net

We have previously noted that Adbullah The Butcher and “The Legion of Doom” The Road Warriors will indeed to be apart of WWE’s hall of fame class of 2011. It has been learned that Abdullah The Butcher will be inducted by WWE hall of famer Terry Funk. The Road Warrior will be inducted by WWE hall of famer “The American Dream” Dusty Rhodes, reports the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

[Dr. Evil]

I honestly think think that when you really look at things she deserves to go in more than most celebs already in or that are discussed for the HOF.

She was a big part of the "Rock n' Wrestling" connection that really helped light WWF on fire in he 80's. The Brawl For It All, The War To Settle The Score, and any other stuff WWF did with MTV back then were very successful and really helped take WWE mainstream. She did it and and then more and more musicians and celebrities got on board. She was even at Wrestlemania I.

It was a lot more than The Fridge ever did for WWE IMO to get into the HOF. If he's in I say why not put her in?

Her, Trump, Mr T, and a few others are celebs that I don't mind in the HOF because they actually did more than one shot with WWF/E and what they did was pretty entertaining. Bob Uecker was just awesome.

Plus "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" and "Goonies are Good Enough" had cameos from wrestlers. Girls had Captain Lou Albano. Goonies had Captain Lou as well as Roddy Piper, Classy Freddie Blassie, The Iron Sheik, Moolah and Nikolai Volkoff.

She deserves a spot in the WWE Hall of Fame. It's not like was there for one appearance and that was it.

[NDX]

Aries comments on Tough Enough and his wrestling future.

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[Hunter Rider]

I was reading on wikipedia and saw this.



Since its Wikipedia who knows if its true. Anybody have any idea of how valid this info is? If its true it kind of says thats wrong with WWE doesn't it?

I remember that being mentioned at the time, obviously with anything involving Triple H it's hard to know what is and isn't true, but given how irritatingly long he was center of attention at that time I imagine there is a degree of truth in it.

- It's said that Vince McMahon is loving the current Michael Cole vs. Jerry Lawler storyline as he gets to live vicariously through Cole. Most of Cole's key lines on TV are fed to him by Vince. The current angle with Cole and Lawler is being patterned after Lawler's most famous angle ever, the one in the early 80's with comedian Andy Kaufman.

So I guess that we can work out who Vince likes and doesn't like via Cole's commentary, personally I think it's gotten stupid,m the idea of the business has never been to intentionally make the audience think a guy is worthless if the promoter thinks that then why even waste TV time on the guy?

- There is some speculation as to who will be announcing WrestleMania 27 as the feeling is it doesn't make much sense to have Jerry Lawler and Michael Cole call most of it and then work a match against each other. Jim Ross is always being speculated on for a return but at last year's WrestleMania, early plans were for him to announce but he didn't. Shawn Michaels and Undertaker even requested that Ross work the pay-per-view but it wasn't the direction that Vince McMahon wanted.

I am still surprised Vince did not allow Taker and HBK's request, especially as it was Shawn's last match. If they can't get Ross back in the announce seat then no one can.

Backstage News on Triple H & Undertaker's Current Storyline

Posted by Marc Middleton (cramtechnologies@gmail.com) on 02/23/2011

- Triple H and The Undertaker are the ones putting together their current program for WrestleMania 27, with minimal input from WWE creative.

Taker was originally scheduled to face Wade Barrett and Triple H was set to face Sheamus at WrestleMania but the two got together and realized that WrestleMania 27 had no special match. As WWE's two most power political forces, they felt they could take control of their own angle without much in the way of outside influence.

Shawn Michaels is still expected to be introduced into the storyline and have a role at WrestleMania, possibly as a referee or an enforcer. The idea behind the storyline is that Triple H is going at Taker for revenge after Taker ended his best friend's career.

This is certainly a boost for the angle, I don't want HBK involved with the match itself though, especially as Rock is likely to be doing the guest ref thing with Cena/Miz.

- Top WWE stars like The Undertaker, Edge, Triple H, John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Big Show and others are traveling in top of the line tour buses, which is a tax deductible business expense. For televised WWE events, Cena travels with Michael Cole as the two are best friends.

There is something deeply unsettling about that. :dry:

- There is some concern on The Undertaker as his recuperation from the recent surgery is going slower than they had hoped for, even though he's worked hard with physical therapy. Taker's match with Triple H at WrestleMania 27 is expected to be the main event.

So they push the Miz as 'must see' and get Rock into the mix, yet two broken down guys who's prime has gone will go on last with a match that will have the EXACT same outcome to the finish of last years Mania? :doh:


WWE has also postponed the Triple H DVD and Blu-ray set that was planned for late 2011. The Triple H feature is now planned for a 2012 release. Good, that will allow him another full year of burials to add to the third disc.


WWE's plan to debut Lucha star Mistico
» Reported by Steve Gerweck (betweentheropes@hotmail.com) of Wrestleview.com[/URL]
» On February 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm

The current plan for the recently signed lucha star [URL="http://gerweck.net/2009/10/12/mistico/"]Mistico (http://www.wrestleview.com/) is to debut on the WWE main roster, as opposed to spending extensive time learning the WWE ring style with Florida Championship Wrestling in Tampa, reports The Wrestling Observer Newsletter (http://www.f4wonline.com/). WWE wants Mistico to also learn to speak English. If they follow through with the plan, Mistico would debut with a new ring name and newly designed mask. However, WWE would still want the Mexican-American fans to know it is Mistico.:facepalm:

[BlackLantern]

Aries comments on Tough Enough and his wrestling future.

9HiGxpHFJhw

refreshing to see someone, still in their prime, be honest about what they want to do going forward

[BlackLantern]

Cole is just playing a character....as is Cena


or are they?? konspirazee!!!!!

[Darkness Falls]

Good, that will allow him another full year of burials to add to the third disc.

its a shame the undertaker already has the "he buries them alive" title on one of his dvd sets :oldrazz:

[Project862006]

HR i hear he cant use the mistico name anyways not because wwe wants to change it and a new mask design would be a plus because what makes mysterio able to connect with the audience is his emotions and facial experssions which is why we can see his mouth

mistico has a full mask even ultimo dragon,juvi,psychosis have there mouth revealed
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BxolT0m36Ew/TUY42WBZyqI/AAAAAAAAAEg/BXSR4HMtXvA/s1600/Mistico.jpg

[Assassin]

Isn't the original Mystico in FCW right now anyways? and this guy the second Mystico that just signed a contract a newer guy?

Also, I wonder why they over looked Austin Aries for tough enough :(

[NDX]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BxolT0m36Ew/TUY42WBZyqI/AAAAAAAAAEg/BXSR4HMtXvA/s1600/Mistico.jpg
This match could be modified to still be Mistico's and allow for more emotion just by subtracting the design and fabric under the eyes. The rest can be kept, still giving you an idea that is is Mistico, and still be a mask worth buying.

[NDX]

Isn't the original Mystico in FCW right now anyways? and this guy the second Mystico that just signed a contract a newer guy?

I think they tried to hire him in the past but he refused. They have some other masked wrestlers there, though (Ricardo Rodriguez wears won when wrestling).

Also, I wonder why they over looked Austin Aries for tough enough :(
WWE probably put an age limit on applicants (as they did in past shows) and Aries was over it. He's not young, he's going to be exiting his prime soon if he hasn't already. While many wrestlers can go another 15, 20 years, this might have been the only way for him to make it to the 'E, and it's just too little too late.

[Assassin]

I heard Epico (Orlando Colon) is pretty good in FCW, why don't they bring him up as the next masked wrestler?

[Assassin]

WWE probably put an age limit on applicants (as they did in past shows) and Aries was over it. He's not young, he's going to be exiting his prime soon if he hasn't already. While many wrestlers can go another 15, 20 years, this might have been the only way for him to make it to the 'E, and it's just too little too late.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/former-tna-star-cut-from-tough-enough-evaluates-future-124533

:(

[Assassin]

Speaking of FCW, has anyone gone on their site to look at the roster? Jerry Brisco's kid has some bad ass tattoos but in weird places.

[Scar Predator]

Good, that will allow him another full year of burials to add to the third disc.



It wouldn't surprise me at all if Wrestlemania is HHH's swan song. His interests are in the business side of WWE now. If he does make it through WM (or ends the Streak), I don't think he'll be back for long.

[NDX]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/former-tna-star-cut-from-tough-enough-evaluates-future-124533

:(

Aries comments on Tough Enough and his wrestling future.

9HiGxpHFJhw
...

[NDX]

Speaking of FCW, has anyone gone on their site to look at the roster? Jerry Brisco's kid has some bad ass tattoos but in weird places.
Some of them look so... awkward. Or generic. Sad, sad state.

[Assassin]

there are new threads every day, i don't have time to read everything :o

[Assassin]

Some of them look so... awkward. Or generic. Sad, sad state.

the wrestlers or the tats?

[Johnny Drama]

Can you guys imagine Triple-H ending the streak? I think the IWC will eat him alive, and rightfully so.

[NDX]

the wrestlers or the tats?
Both.

Rick Victor has a forehead you can project movies on.


there are new threads every day, i don't have time to read everything :o

Previous page, ya lazy bum! :cmad:

[Hunter Rider]

HR i hear he cant use the mistico name anyways not because wwe wants to change it and a new mask design would be a plus because what makes mysterio able to connect with the audience is his emotions and facial experssions which is why we can see his mouth

mistico has a full mask even ultimo dragon,juvi,psychosis have there mouth revealed
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BxolT0m36Ew/TUY42WBZyqI/AAAAAAAAAEg/BXSR4HMtXvA/s1600/Mistico.jpg

Ah I see, so the Mexican promotion he works for owns the character and name rights?

With the mask it will be interesting to see how they alter, like Nex said they could just add a mouth hole, but they are also going to need to make it look unique enough to not just seem like a Rey clone.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Wrestlemania is HHH's swan song. His interests are in the business side of WWE now. If he does make it through WM (or ends the Streak), I don't think he'll be back for long.

I don't like the streak but I am not keen on Triple H being the one to end it, but by the same token I think it's the wrong time for him to hang them up, he should go heel for one last run first as there are two or three young faces that could use the rub of working with and beating him, as a face he will never get anyone over.

[Assassin]

i like the native American tat he has, but on his thigh?

[Assassin]

Ah I see, so the Mexican promotion he works for owns the character and name rights?


His uncle owns that promotion though so i'm sure he can get the rights if WWE wanted it.

[NDX]

I don't like the streak but I am not keen on Triple H being the one to end it, but by the same token I think it's the wrong time for him to hang them up, he should go heel for one last run first as there are two or three young faces that could use the rub of working with and beating him, as a face he will never get anyone over.
I remember talking about this with you. I agree, he still has a bit to give back, where I think Undertaker needs to go, completely. His character doesn't allow for him to put people over like HHH's can. There are a handful of guys that I would really like to see wrestle HHH just once, even in a losing effort, just to see the match. But it would be even better, in the end, if he put them over, as a heel.

[NDX]

i like the native American tat he has, but on his thigh?

It's just so horribly huge.

[RetroNaz]

There's no way HHH will be ending the streak guys.

[Kaleb]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19500000/Cm-Punk-Elimination-Chamber-cm-punk-19531640-120-63.gif

[Scar Predator]

I don't like the streak but I am not keen on Triple H being the one to end it, but by the same token I think it's the wrong time for him to hang them up, he should go heel for one last run first as there are two or three young faces that could use the rub of working with and beating him, as a face he will never get anyone over.

Just a theory: HHH loses his career and shows up on RAW for a retirement ceremony. He "snaps" because not only is his career gone, but his best buddy, HBK, was the one count him out. He attacks HBK and swears to make The Undertaker's life a nightmare--as the new RAW GM aka Mr. McMahon version 2.

I remember talking about this with you. I agree, he still has a bit to give back, where I think Undertaker needs to go, completely. His character doesn't allow for him to put people over like HHH's can. There are a handful of guys that I would really like to see wrestle HHH just once, even in a losing effort, just to see the match. But it would be even better, in the end, if he put them over, as a heel.

Give back to who? The only guy he owes is Sheamus, who seems to be in the middle of a depush. As far as making main eventers, a win over Cena or Orton means more right now. HHH has spent more time injured in the last 5 years than he has in the title picture.

[RetroNaz]

HHH has had a great career, it would be good to see him go out with MOY at WM this year - since both Undertaker and HHH have it in them.

I just hope both have shaken off the ring rust, HHH more so than Undies.

[Kaleb]

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[Metallo]

I remember that being mentioned at the time, obviously with anything involving Triple H it's hard to know what is and isn't true, but given how irritatingly long he was center of attention at that time I imagine there is a degree of truth in it.

Just kind of sickening that the greatest booking mind in WWE history could see the problem there and yet nobody would listen. Patterson is a huge reason why Vince's WWF became as successful as it was. Patterson had a good eye for spotting top guys (no pun intended :hehe:) and his opinion on HHH at the time just backs up the same thing Cornette said about HHH. HHH hogged the title scene for like 3 years straight despite the fact that there was no justification for it. And ratings went down during that period.

As immature as Flair is HHH was trying to have his "Flair run" but he simply isn't Ric Flair and his ego was to big to admit it to himself. HHH is always best when used in a certain way and always has been.



So I guess that we can work out who Vince likes and doesn't like via Cole's commentary, personally I think it's gotten stupid,m the idea of the business has never been to intentionally make the audience think a guy is worthless if the promoter thinks that then why even waste TV time on the guy?
I've been saying for a long time that Cole announcing style has been becoming more and more like Vince McMahon's 90's style and now it all makes sense. If Cole is basically saying what Vince feels it shows he can't be objective at all anymore. The constant making fun of Danielson is a good example. He really has gotten over despite that and despite the stuck in neutral push.



I am still surprised Vince did not allow Taker and HBK's request, especially as it was Shawn's last match. If they can't get Ross back in the announce seat then no one can.

Its another example of Vince's personal bias an his ego not letting him admit that just because he doesn't like Ross doesn't mean Ross isn't the best at what he does.
Vince is just to stubborn to admit he's wrong.



This is certainly a boost for the angle, I don't want HBK involved with the match itself though, especially as Rock is likely to be doing the guest ref thing with Cena/Miz.
I agree. I don't think HBK should be be heavily involved in the angle and certainly not the match. if he is it kind of muddles the focus.

The feud would make a little more sense to me after Mania but its still not something I'm dying to see.



So they push the Miz as 'must see' and get Rock into the mix, yet two broken down guys who's prime has gone will go on last with a match that will have the EXACT same outcome to the finish of last years Mania? :doh:

LOL, I don't expect a fantastic match from them. Certainly not on the level of HBk vs Taker. I can sort of see why they want it to go on last by sheer name value but its not going to be a classic thats impossible to follow. HHH isn't on that level of talent anymore and Taker is beat to hell physically. They also don't have much time to do a fantastic build so it won't really have that either. The story seems pretty basic and we all know the outcome. I just don't feel like theres anything to hook me.



It wouldn't surprise me at all if Wrestlemania is HHH's swan song. His interests are in the business side of WWE now. If he does make it through WM (or ends the Streak), I don't think he'll be back for long.

If he retires to Taker it'll just annoy me. I didn't mind Flair or HBK retiring to legends who didn't need the rub because they'd already given back to younger talent and invested time in making future stars.

HHH really hasn't done that on that level. he never REALLY put over Sheamus right and the one guy HHH DID make from the ground up is retired before HHH is.

HHH never did really launch a "Sting" the way Flair did or an "Austin" the way Michaels did with a fantastic title match. And those guys did a lot of jobs to younger talent to help them. Michaels losing to Jericho clean in an epic ladder match really gave Jericho some much needed legitimacy in 2008.

HHH just really hasn't done much of that in the last 5 years. He put Cena over great but Cena was already the guy and if HHH didn't do it Micheals did a year later in a better match.

HHH should go out as a heel while trying to make some promising young talent look better instead of feeling he can only lose to an aging Undertaker. Like I said HHH was never on that Flair/Michaels level anyway. He never drew money like Flair and he's not even in the same league as Michaels.



Can you guys imagine Triple-H ending the streak? I think the IWC will eat him alive, and rightfully so.

I don't think even HHH has the stones to do that. If that DID happen I'd quit watching WWE. What would be the point? HHH ending the streak would be bulls***.

[RetroNaz]

HHH launched Shelton Benjamin, Metallo. Are you forgetting? ;)

[Scar Predator]

HHH really hasn't done that on that level. he never REALLY put over Sheamus right and the one guy HHH DID make from the ground up is retired before HHH is.

HHH never did really launch a "Sting" the way Flair did or an "Austin" the way Michaels did with a fantastic title match. **.

I think HHH has already tried his best to make stars. Unfortunately, they haven't all worked out. Batista left after HHH lost 3X in a row to him on PPVs. Benoit...well, we know what happened there, after both HHH and HBK put him over. HHH also lost cleanly--by submission--to Cena at WM. That was HUGE from a storyline standpoint. I remember turning to the guy with whom I was watching that event (also a long-time fan) and saying, "I think that means WWE is going to be focusing on a skinny version of PN News for the next few years."

Unfortunately for HHH, HBK getting a good match out of Cena the following year has erased that from everyone's mind. I can't fault HHH for not having the ability of HBK. The only thing I fault HHH for (in recent years) was going over Sheamus last year at WM.

[Scar Predator]

HHH has had a great career, it would be good to see him go out with MOY at WM this year - since both Undertaker and HHH have it in them.

I just hope both have shaken off the ring rust, HHH more so than Undies.

Eh...maybe. They would both have to turn back the clock. The last couple of years, both guys have looked slow and old. Hopefully, the time off for both guys will give them a shot to do something great.

[chapin]

The streak will never end

[RetroNaz]

Agreed.

[The Sage]

It'll end next year. ;)

[RetroNaz]

It'll end next year. ;)

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[venom892]

I'm guessing they are going to address the HHH/Sheamus and Taker/Kane/Barrett situation on the next couple Raws and Smackdowns.

[Milu]

Eh...maybe. They would both have to turn back the clock. The last couple of years, both guys have looked slow and old. Hopefully, the time off for both guys will give them a shot to do something great.
Although chances are slim, I hope it's of the same caliber as their encounter at WMXVII.

[RetroNaz]

It'll be booked differently than that match IMO.

They'll probably go for a straight forward wrestling match without any hardcore pieces.

[Slushy]

I'm guessing they are going to address the HHH/Sheamus and Taker/Kane/Barrett situation on the next couple Raws and Smackdowns.


Good. I was getting sick and tired of all the b****ing besides those matches would've been unworthy for Wrestlemania especially Sheamus Vs. HHH, which we just saw last year!

[chapin]

Iinstead of HHH vs Taker, would it be a good idea to have HHH vs Sheamus 2 and Taker vs Barret & Kane at WM?

just a thought

[Metallo]

HHH launched Shelton Benjamin, Metallo. Are you forgetting? ;)

:funny: As much as I like Shelton I think we can all agree he was "lacking" in certain areas. I'll give HHH credit for putting him over in a few minor matches though.


I think HHH has already tried his best to make stars. Unfortunately, they haven't all worked out. Batista left after HHH lost 3X in a row to him on PPVs. Benoit...well, we know what happened there, after both HHH and HBK put him over. HHH also lost cleanly--by submission--to Cena at WM. That was HUGE from a storyline standpoint. I remember turning to the guy with whom I was watching that event (also a long-time fan) and saying, "I think that means WWE is going to be focusing on a skinny version of PN News for the next few years."

I've already talked about how he put over Cena clean at Wrestlemania and always given him credit for that. The problem is Cena was already the top dog when HHH jobbed to him. He didn't "make" Cena he just "cemented" Cena's place as the top guy. It was a validation of Cena. It wasn't taking Cena to a new level the way HBK did for Austin with his first world title win or Flair did for Sting with his first world title win.

I'd say Cena's win over HHH at WM was comparable to Hogans win over Andre in a sense. Hogan was already the man by the time WMIII rolled around but Hogans win over Andre solidified him forever. The same way Cenas win over HHH told us Cena was here to stay.

Benoit was never meant to be a long term fixture in the main event or permanent top guy. Benoit's winning of the title was more of a reward by giving him a great moment for his years of hard work in the business and his talent. Between his age and injuries by 2004 he was never a long term investment the way Cena or Orton were when they were both pushed into the main event. Benoits value was that he could use that rub from WM20 to put other guys over in the future like he did with Orton and Cena.

Batista's case is iffy because when they pushed him he was still pretty limited and green and he was a lot older than what would have been ideal. He basically got the spot because of his look and because he was HHH's workout buddy.

But Batista only put in 5 years as a main eventer while Sting has put in 20 years and drew more money at his peak. Huge difference in longevity there. Batista spent a LOT of that five years injured too.

Batista didn't really begin to exceed everyone's expectations until he upped his game to face Undertaker and then again when he turned heel and faced Cena last year. That was some of the best work of his career but it was late getting there.


Unfortunately for HHH, HBK getting a good match out of Cena the following year has erased that from everyone's mind. I can't fault HHH for not having the ability of HBK. The only thing I fault HHH for (in recent years) was going over Sheamus last year at WM.I fault him for not doing more to put Orton over, Hardy over, and arguably Jericho. Considering the level of talent Jericho has he could have used more strong wins over HHH one on one. Michaels was willing to job to Jericho while HHH usually owned him. Orton beating HHH at mania could have been huge for Orton.

[Team Andino]

Iinstead of HHH vs Taker, would it be a good idea to have HHH vs Sheamus 2 and Taker vs Barret & Kane at WM?

just a thought
Problem is Sheamus has been made such a fool of late that Triple H beating him would be little to nothing and Sheamus would just be taking another loss. As for Barrett and Taker I image they can have a fun match but it'll be predictable as hell. At least with Hunter/Taker II we get to icons and future HOFer's going at it near the end of their careers while they can both still go.

[BlackLantern]

Im beginning to like Barrett....think he can be a great heel given time, plus I really like his voice...he's got that great antagonistic voice

[Johnny Drama]

He should go back to wearing the trench coat and the rose. It made Barrett unique.

Heath Slater will end The Undertakers streak at WM28. Watch.

[BlackLantern]

wasn't it a suit jacket....a velvety looking one?

[Metallo]

Problem is Sheamus has been made such a fool of late that Triple H beating him would be little to nothing and Sheamus would just be taking another loss. As for Barrett and Taker I image they can have a fun match but it'll be predictable as hell. At least with Hunter/Taker II we get to icons and future HOFer's going at it near the end of their careers while they can both still go.

Yeah I think they've weakened Sheamus so much that theres no value in an HHH vs Sheamus rematch. Certainly not at Mania.


Im beginning to like Barrett....think he can be a great heel given time, plus I really like his voice...he's got that great antagonistic voice

I like Barrett too. He's a guy thats gone far on character more than in ring talent. He's ok in the ring but he still needs to do some work. Considering how new he is to WWE he's impressed me as a talker and a leader. He really carried The Nexus for months.

[Johnny Drama]

wasn't it a suit jacket....a velvety looking one?

It was a long tailed blazer. Kinda like the lovechild of a suit coat and a trenchcoat.

[BlackLantern]

Barrett in ring, reminds me a bit of Paul Orndorff....not a great wrestler, but the character compensates

[chapin]

Heath Slater will end The Undertakers streak at WM28. Watch.

epic match

[Johnny Drama]

At Wrestlemania 27, Danie Bryan WILL wrestle a broomstick and it WILL be a 5 star match...

[MMMMM...Dounuts]

Speaking of FCW, has anyone gone on their site to look at the roster? Jerry Brisco's kid has some bad ass tattoos but in weird places.

I've checked out the roster too and noticed that there are like 3 gingers. Maybe they could join up with Sheamus and Slater for some kind of Ginger faction in the future, have them be evil and attack non-gingers.

[BlackLantern]

I've checked out the roster too and noticed that there are like 3 gingers. Maybe they could join up with Sheamus and Slater for some kind of Ginger faction in the future, have them be evil and attack non-gingers.

that would be awesome....what would be the faction name...the gWo, Ginger Nation, Red Hair, Bad Ass??

[Johnny Drama]

or...

Gingercide, The GingerVitus, or rSc (Redheaded Step Children)

[BlackLantern]

I like rSc

[Metamorpho1977]

Barrett in ring, reminds me a bit of Paul Orndorff....not a great wrestler, but the character compensates

I can see a little Orndorff in him. He makes that great arrogant heel good.

[BlackLantern]

so apparently Big Kev has signed a multi year deal with WWE

Big Kev clears things up…

- Kevin Nash posted the following (http://twitter.com/RealKevinNash) on his Twitter,,,

I'm back in the WWE family. Last time you saw me was a surprise, correct? The next time you see me will be just as much of one. Right?

I have a 5 year contract with the WWE. I'm sure in the next 5 yrears, You All will hear the Diesel engine again. Trust me.

via 411mania.com

[Nightmare]

Heath Slater will end The Undertakers streak at WM28. Watch.

:wow:

[Pink Ranger]

Heath Slater will end The Undertakers streak at WM28. Watch.

Heath will try to cut a promo on 'Taker with his funny voice, and 'Taker will collapse laughing. Heath will pin him, and voila, the streak ends, not with a bang but with a whimper.

[chapin]

I wonder who's NOT gonna be part of WM this year..

Chris Masters maybe?

[venom892]

plenty of guys will be in the battle royal they always have before the show starts.Barretta,Hawkins,Tatsu,Reks,Masters,etc.

[Dr. Evil]

so apparently Big Kev has signed a multi year deal with WWE



via 411mania.com

He's not going to wrestle all five years.

[BlackLantern]

I figure its a Legends contract....kind of similar to his early role in TNA...when he was trying to "save" the X Division

which was when he was at his best

[Dr. Evil]

The Sun Herald reported today that WWE will bring Monday Night Raw to Brazil's largest sports network, Esporte Interativo, starting in March. The agreement will create over 33 million potential viewers for Raw and continue their expansion into Latin and South America.

I don't know if the Brazilians care much for the WWE.

[Metamorpho1977]

The Sun Herald reported today that WWE will bring Monday Night Raw to Brazil's largest sports network, Esporte Interativo, starting in March. The agreement will create over 33 million potential viewers for Raw and continue their expansion into Latin and South America.

I don't know if the Brazilians care much for the WWE.

I don't know, but there's a lot of viewers down there. There's like a brazillion of them down there.

[BlackLantern]

nice....I see what you did there

[Metamorpho1977]

nice....I see what you did there

I paraphrased a joke about George W. I heard once. Someone asked him why we didn't invade Brazil for oil and he said there was too many of them, there was a brazillion of them down there.

[Pink Ranger]

I don't know if the Brazilians care much for the WWE.

They need to bring back Aldo Montoya.

[Metallo]

Hogan Criticizes The Rock's Return To WWE, Comments On His Own Health

Posted by PWPIX (danndogg75@yahoo.com) on 02/24/2011


During an interview with Peter Rosenberg, Hulk Hogan criticized WWE's handling of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's return to WWE last week on Raw.

"They've spent so much time building John Cena up. There's a way to really build somebody up, but all of a sudden within three or four seconds, he had the whole arena screaming that Cena sucks," Hogan said.

"Sometimes I don't understand the philosophy. John Cena is going to be there all the time. Even though The Rock said he's back, he's only back for one day. He's not going to be there wrestling every single day like John Cena is, really holding it down and really keeping it real. All that stuff is scripted. They had Stephanie McMahon and the writers telling The Rock exactly what to say. I just didn't understand why they would want to destroy Cena so quickly."

Hogan said he has undergone eight back surgeries in the past year. Though he wears a brace, he's now pain free. He noted that he will be on hand for tonight's iMPACT! taping in Fayetteville, North Carolina.

I can't believe it but Hogans actually telling some truth?! I think he's wrong that The creative team told Rock what to say but they obviously didn't tell him what not to say either.

Its a tough spot. They have to make Cena look like he's on the Rocks level as far as importance because Cenas gonna be holding down the fort everyday after the Rock's gone back to making movies.


I paraphrased a joke about George W. I heard once. Someone asked him why we didn't invade Brazil for oil and he said there was too many of them, there was a brazillion of them down there.

Dubya probably thought that was a real number.


They need to bring back Aldo Montoya.

Oh yeah Aldo was just incredible in the ring :o

[Pink Ranger]

Oh yeah Aldo was just incredible in the ring :o

:rimshot:

[Nightmare]

You mean Justin Credible!

[Kaleb]

lol Justin Credible the so called 5th member of the cliq.

[Kaleb]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19500000/Cm-Punk-Elimination-Chamber-cm-punk-19531644-300-170.gif

straight edge means I can do your taunt better than you.

[Nightwing]

That was great.

[Darkness Falls]

Lmao :awesome:

[Kaleb]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19500000/Cm-Punk-Elimination-Chamber-cm-punk-19531640-210-110.gif
much larger image than the previous one

[Metallo]

www.funnyordie.com

Where's Randy Savage? (http://www.funnyordie.com/slideshows/21884eeb47/where-is-randy-savage)

Recently discovered photographic evidence of the secret history of the Macho Man Randy Savage can be found at http://wheresrandysavage.tumblr.com/ and http://www.facebook.com/WheresRandySavage

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[Metallo]

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[Metallo]

http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1174417/randybunch_fullsize.jpg?60a4c272
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http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1183125/BreakfastClub_fullsize.jpg?60a4c272
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[Darkness Falls]

*cleans coke off monitor* thanks for the laugh metallo :D

[Pink Ranger]

Savage in the Sgt Pepper cover is the best. His colours actually match.

[MMMMM...Dounuts]

Those were awesome!!! Thanks for posting them Metallo, I got a good laugh!!!

[Hunter Rider]

As immature as Flair is HHH was trying to have his "Flair run" but he simply isn't Ric Flair and his ego was to big to admit it to himself. HHH is always best when used in a certain way and always has been.

The biggest difference between Triple H and his idol and best friend, is that Flair and HBK realized when you're great you don't need to win all the time, you can put someone lower on the card over and maintain your status while elevating theirs.


I've been saying for a long time that Cole announcing style has been becoming more and more like Vince McMahon's 90's style and now it all makes sense. If Cole is basically saying what Vince feels it shows he can't be objective at all anymore. The constant making fun of Danielson is a good example. He really has gotten over despite that and despite the stuck in neutral push.

It all increases the feeling that the sooner Triple H is installed in Vince's place, the better things will be.

Its another example of Vince's personal bias an his ego not letting him admit that just because he doesn't like Ross doesn't mean Ross isn't the best at what he does.
Vince is just to stubborn to admit he's wrong.

The odd thing is Vince didn't like JR's look, but WTF is Cole to look at? he's always been a weedy little guy. The fact Vince tried Mike Adamle shows how determined he is not to put JR back in the seat.

I agree. I don't think HBK should be be heavily involved in the angle and certainly not the match. if he is it kind of muddles the focus.

The feud would make a little more sense to me after Mania but its still not something I'm dying to see.

Me either but they have 5 weeks to sell it to me.

LOL, I don't expect a fantastic match from them. Certainly not on the level of HBk vs Taker. I can sort of see why they want it to go on last by sheer name value but its not going to be a classic thats impossible to follow. HHH isn't on that level of talent anymore and Taker is beat to hell physically. They also don't have much time to do a fantastic build so it won't really have that either. The story seems pretty basic and we all know the outcome. I just don't feel like theres anything to hook me.


The thing is if it goes on last it almost guarentees no physicality between Rock and Cena, and Mania ending in a tired and predictable fashion.


It'll be booked differently than that match IMO.

They'll probably go for a straight forward wrestling match without any hardcore pieces.

In truth given their age and injury ridden bodies, a few gimmicks to pad out the match might help them, it would also make it more of a physical war since Triple H can't do the athletic things HBK did to elevate the match.

lol Justin Credible the so called 5th member of the cliq.

6th. ;)

[Hunter Rider]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgse2j4r8G1qfhcapo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1298670219&Signature=7gTSg7i74PkAJ3edtFWQKMc%2BTNk%3D




http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1183079/batman_fullsize.jpg?60a4c272

:lmao:

[Kaleb]

6th. ;)

huh? oh right forgot abut xpac.

[Hunter Rider]

huh? oh right forgot abut xpac.

That's easily done. :D

[Kaleb]

Those Randy Savage pics are the tits :D

[The Sage]

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE plans to use The Rock at least one more time on TV before he makes his appearance as the guest host of WrestleMania. The feeling is that while WWE wants to use The Rock on TV to help build his feud with Cena and The Miz heading into the big PPV, they don't want to over expose him to the fans as they want his WrestleMania experience to feel special.

Additionally, The Rock commented on the Raw returns of Triple H and The Undertaker by posting the following on his Twitter account: "loved seeing both Undertaker and Triple H return..what incredible crowd reactions for both..very happy for them - epic match!"

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE is said to be unhappy with the initial batch of Tough Enough contestants expected to participate in the upcoming re-debut of the show.

The cast was NOT selected by WWE, but rather by Shed Media and The USA Network, who are producing the show. It's being said that WWE is not happy with the amount of well-known independent wrestling stars were selected for the show, and the people who were in charge of casting have reportedly been replaced by someone who has worked closely with WWE's Kevin Dunn in the past.

We reported yesterday that WZ contributor and former WWE star Val Venis, real name Sean Morely, noted on Twitter that Matt Cross will be one of the Tough Enough contestants.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/update-on-wwes-plans-for-the-rock-on-tv-wmania-more-124643
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/report-wwe-unhappy-with-new-tough-enough-contestants-124633

[Pink Ranger]

The odd thing is Vince didn't like JR's look, but WTF is Cole to look at? he's always been a weedy little guy.

Heidenreich disagrees.

[chapin]

funny

[Metamorpho1977]

Triple H breaks the streak after Diesel hits Undertaker with the jacknife.

[Superark]

Credit to www.PWInsider.com (http://www.PWInsider.com)

TNA is apparently under a lot of pressure from SpikeTV to increase ratings. Sources backstage say that is one of the reasons TNA just threw Hardy vs. RVD out on Impact so suddenly and why they are pushing the "shocking surprise of the year"

[Darkness Falls]

Htutm5R-W2Q

:awesome:

[Pink Ranger]

Triple H breaks the streak after Diesel hits Undertaker with the jacknife.

No, not the jacknife. Fingerpoke of doom.

[Metamorpho1977]

No, not the jacknife. Fingerpoke of doom.

That did occur to me. I also considered the taser finish as well.

[Metallo]

:lmao:

If you think Savage and Batman is funny...

http://kentuckyfriedwrestling.com/theword2/wp-content/uploads/LawlervsBatman-1.jpg
Batman meets Superking
GpaQlfJsqCs

[Wylie Times]

I'm hoping Mistico being signed leads to a heel turn for Rey...This is the only situation where I could see it happening.

[Nightwing]

^ Holy ****. :awesome:

[Metamorpho1977]

^ Holy ****. :awesome:

That may have been the first Marvel/DC superhero crossover with the Spider-Man plug by "Batman."

[BlackLantern]

Credit to www.PWInsider.com (http://www.PWInsider.com)

TNA is apparently under a lot of pressure from SpikeTV to increase ratings. Sources backstage say that is one of the reasons TNA just threw Hardy vs. RVD out on Impact so suddenly and why they are pushing the "shocking surprise of the year"

wow....guess even Spike is tired of their crap....if Spike drops them, they really don't have any other options

[bullets]

so apparently Big Kev has signed a multi year deal with WWE


Maybe they could use him on NXT.


Can you guys imagine Triple-H ending the streak? I think the IWC will eat him alive, and rightfully so.

It would be a ****storm... I can't imagine Undertaker's streak ever ending but if it does I'd prefer it be someone who doesn't have as many accolades
in wwe like Triple H and that could actually benefit from it.

I can't believe it but Hogans actually telling some truth?! I think he's wrong that The creative team told Rock what to say but they obviously didn't tell him what not to say either.


I would of agreed with Hogan before last Monday but after Cena "schooled" Rock with thuganomics, lol , I think it's played out perfectly.

[Metallo]

That may have been the first Marvel/DC superhero crossover with the Spider-Man plug by "Batman."


Lawler vs Batman was almost as WTF as this

http://dallaspenn.com/pics/albums/album02/superman_vs_muhmammad_ali.jpg

or this

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/270/276/4033913855_e3fc2078d2_display_image.jpg?1277431458

[Assassin]

Mistico is now Sin Cara, new mask new name

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/sincarajoinswwe

[Lunar_Wolf]

"They've spent so much time building John Cena up. There's a way to really build somebody up, but all of a sudden within three or four seconds, he had the whole arena screaming that Cena sucks," Hogan said
If Hogan watched WWE weekly, Cena gets that chant if Rock's on the mic or not.

[bullets]

I don't get the name change. Maybe because WWE can't trademark it ?





or this

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/270/276/4033913855_e3fc2078d2_display_image.jpg?1277431458

I watched this nonsense on youtube. I love it though..

[Project862006]

that is quite different from Mysterio which is good

btw Sin Cara translates to "Without Face"

[Metallo]

wow....guess even Spike is tired of their crap....if Spike drops them, they really don't have any other options

Spike are the ones who wanted the stupid MEM vs Immortal story. Spikes dishing crap of their own. i doubt they're in danger of getting dropped anytime soon BUT I'm sure there is concern for the ratings sliding again.


I would of agreed with Hogan before last Monday but after Cena "schooled" Rock with thuganomics, lol , I think it's played out perfectly.

Hogans still right. Its still taken the focus off the guys that are there and put it squarely on Rock vs Cena. Cena couldn't turn around and not hear about The Rock so he really had no choice but to address the Rock issue some way. Its not like he had much of a choice. The WWE title match still means nothing to most people. They just want to see what the Rock is going to do and Cena is still going to be the one that has to carry the show when Rock is gone. Thats still a valid concern.

Are all those viewers that came back to see Rock going to stick around after he leaves again? Its the same criticism Nash leveled at WWE a few months ago. Are they booking for the present or booking for the present and future?


I don't get the name change. Maybe because WWE can't trademark it ?






I watched this nonsense on youtube. I love it though..

Probably a trademark thing with Mistico.

Robocop in WCW is what happens when its run by the guy that used to work for Pizza Hut.

[Metamorpho1977]

Lawler vs Batman was almost as WTF as this

http://dallaspenn.com/pics/albums/album02/superman_vs_muhmammad_ali.jpg

or this

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/270/276/4033913855_e3fc2078d2_display_image.jpg?1277431458

I miss that Sting and I have that Superman book.

[Project862006]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182929_105689059511611_105683519512165_54416_50549 24_n.jpg

[Metallo]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182929_105689059511611_105683519512165_54416_50549 24_n.jpg

So thats an official WWE photo? I'm not really digging the new mask. Maybe it'll grow on me. Some elements seem the same I think its just the colors bothering me.

[The Sage]

Credit to www.PWInsider.com (http://www.PWInsider.com)

TNA is apparently under a lot of pressure from SpikeTV to increase ratings. Sources backstage say that is one of the reasons TNA just threw Hardy vs. RVD out on Impact so suddenly and why they are pushing the "shocking surprise of the year"

Maybe SpikeTV can pressure TNA into letting Russo go. :awesome:

[Nightmare]

Mistico is now Sin Cara, new mask new name

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/sincarajoinswwe

whoa, i like it!

[Nightmare]

sAJRCA-QJ1o

Mistico Tribute

[IronLion]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182929_105689059511611_105683519512165_54416_50549 24_n.jpg

he reminds me of a power ranger

[NDX]

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http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1183079/batman_fullsize.jpg?60a4c272

http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1183081/duckhunt_fullsize.jpg?60a4c272


These five are too much. :lmao:

[Hunter Rider]

Heidenreich disagrees.

Yeah but that was lurve.

Credit to www.PWInsider.com (http://www.PWInsider.com)

TNA is apparently under a lot of pressure from SpikeTV to increase ratings. Sources backstage say that is one of the reasons TNA just threw Hardy vs. RVD out on Impact so suddenly and why they are pushing the "shocking surprise of the year"

So TNA used that as an angle on Impact last week. :doh:

Triple H breaks the streak after Diesel hits Undertaker with the jacknife.

I wouldn't hate this......

If you think Savage and Batman is funny...

http://kentuckyfriedwrestling.com/theword2/wp-content/uploads/LawlervsBatman-1.jpg
Batman meets Superking
GpaQlfJsqCs

:eek: How has this not been on wrestlecrap lists along with The Shockmaster, The Gooker and Sting teaming with Robocop?

Mistico is now Sin Cara, new mask new name

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/sincarajoinswwe

The name reminds me of those stones in Temple of Doom.

that is quite different from Mysterio which is good

btw Sin Cara translates to "Without Face"

And the mask mirrrors the name, odd that just last night we were talking about the Mistico mask needing to be adapted to show his mouth, yet WWE have went the other way and even covered his eyes.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182929_105689059511611_105683519512165_54416_50549 24_n.jpg

I like the look, it's exactly how he needs to be presented IMO, I dig the one horn design on the mask, the colour initially made me think of Ultimo Dragon.

[NDX]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182929_105689059511611_105683519512165_54416_50549 24_n.jpg
I dig this. I think it works and doesn't deviate too far from the original Mistico mask.

[Metamorpho1977]

Yeah but that was lurve.



So TNA used that as an angle on Impact last week. :doh:



I wouldn't hate this......



:eek: How has this not been on wrestlecrap lists along with The Shockmaster, The Gooker and Sting teaming with Robocop?



The name reminds me of those stones in Temple of Doom.



And the mask mirrrors the name, odd that just last night we were talking about the Mistico mask needing to be adapted to show his mouth, yet WWE have went the other way and even covered his eyes.



I like the look, it's exactly how he needs to be presented IMO, I dig the one horn design on the mask, the colour initially made me think of Ultimo Dragon.

Robocop was really just Paul Orndorff wasn't it?

[Metamorpho1977]

I see Diesel getting involved with Taker/HHH as a revenge of the Cliq or something type angle.

[Nightmare]

I was hoping for Diesel vs Show at mania.

[louiebling$]

Yea I'm loving Mistico new look... Sin Cara is a Pretty cool name I can dig it:up:

Also a Sin Cara vs Morrison vs Daniel Bryan vs Rey Must Happen... it just must!

[NDX]

They already have 1 masked wrestler on SD right now, but I can't see him wrestling on RAW without some buildup.

But if he was on RAW, him vs AmDrag should be interesting.

[NDX]

Is AmDrag really getting that good a reaction or was that piped in during post?

[The Sage]

Major Exclusive Spoiler: Huge TNA Creative Plans For Tonight


As we reported earlier, ProWrestling.net has noted that Sting is backstage at the Impact tapings tonight.

WrestleZone has confirmed that Sting is in fact backstage at the taping, and that the current plan is to run a video at the end of tonight's Impact broadcast which will lead to Sting's return next week.

We have also learned that the creative plan as of this afternoon is to have Sting defeat Jeff Hardy for the TNA Title at the Impact taping tonight which will air next week. As always, things can change, and we will continue to keep you updated as more information becomes available.


http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/major-exclusive-spoiler-huge-tna-creative-plans-for-tonight-124677

[venom892]

Does Sin Cara know English?

[RetroNaz]

Maybe SpikeTV can pressure TNA into letting Russo go. :awesome:

Yes, yes, forever yes.

We can only hope :)

[Dr. Evil]

So, Mistico is now Sin Cara?

Makes sense. They need someone to take over for Rey Mysterio when Rey is done, which I would guess is pretty soon. His mask isn't really that bad. The WWE needs someone to market to the Latino fan base when Rey is done. It won't be Alberto Del Rio, that's for sure.

they do have Epico and Hunico in FCW, but both will either be future endeavored or unmasked. I believe Hunico is Tito Colon, the cousin of Primo.

[NDX]

We have also learned that the creative plan as of this afternoon is to have Sting defeat Jeff Hardy for the TNA Title at the Impact taping tonight which will air next week. As always, things can change, and we will continue to keep you updated as more information becomes available.


:facepalm:

That's all I got for this. Not even going to try and fake interest in these 2 episodes. Just don't care.

[louiebling$]

Is AmDrag really getting that good a reaction or was that piped in during post?
huh

[Dr. Evil]

Thank god that the WWE finally signed Mistico. I was tired of the rumors that he signed and then only to have the rumors refuted.

[Dr. Evil]

Does Sin Cara know English?

From what I have heard.....no. But Del Rio didn't know much English either when he was Dos Caras.

[venom892]

TNA will never recapture my interest again.

[Dr. Evil]

If Sin Cara makes his WWE debut on a regular roster soon, that means that the goodbye clock is ticking for Rey.

[NDX]

Hate to say it, but Teddy J should have won with that sleeper suplex.

[Metallo]

That was actually a pretty good match between Bryan and DiBiase. Not really sure where all this stuff with Ted and Maryse is going though.

I'm going to try to catch the Superstars replay later on.

I'm actually looking forward to Angle vs Anderson vs RVD tonight. A match with the latter two didn't really interest me but adding Angle to the match has me curious.

Steiner and Eric young were actually funny just now. Go figure.

Not looking forward to seeing Flair wrestle tonight. Never thought I'd say that at one point but then again I never thought he'd still be wrestling at age 160.

[Metamorpho1977]

Good to see Eric Young back on. He's one of my favorite TNA originals.

[Superark]

Credit to www.Prowrestling.net (http://www.Prowrestling.net)

TNA News: Major news update coming out of the TNA IMPACT tapings (match result spoiler)



Sting returned and defeated Jeff Hardy to win the TNA Title in the main event that will air on the March 3 edition of TNA Impact. Sting debuted new gear and beat Hardy clean with the Scorpion Death Drop.

Powell's POV: TNA even aired a 3-3-11 video to set up Sting's return, which was obviously a takeoff of WWE's 2-21-11 video.

[Hunter Rider]

I remember talking about this with you. I agree, he still has a bit to give back, where I think Undertaker needs to go, completely. His character doesn't allow for him to put people over like HHH's can. There are a handful of guys that I would really like to see wrestle HHH just once, even in a losing effort, just to see the match. But it would be even better, in the end, if he put them over, as a heel.

One I'd want to see for certain is Bryan vs Triple H, for some reason it plays in my head like KENTA trying to beat Kobashi.

Robocop was really just Paul Orndorff wasn't it?

I've never heard that before but given it was WCW there is every chance.

I was hoping for Diesel vs Show at mania.

In truth given how big Nash was movign a tag with Show against Corre may be better for him.

Credit to www.Prowrestling.net (http://www.Prowrestling.net)

TNA News: Major news update coming out of the TNA IMPACT tapings (match result spoiler)



Sting returned and defeated Jeff Hardy to win the TNA Title in the main event that will air on the March 3 edition of TNA Impact. Sting debuted new gear and beat Hardy clean with the Scorpion Death Drop.

Powell's POV: TNA even aired a 3-3-11 video to set up Sting's return, which was obviously a takeoff of WWE's 2-21-11 video.


TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! :doh:

[Hunter Rider]

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8996/mjtg7l.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/mjtg7l.jpg/)

[louiebling$]

Sting and TNA... match made in idiot heaven :o

[Superark]

TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA! :doh:

I'm reading the Impact spoilers from the NC taping right now and if the show comes across as bad as it reads, it looks like its going to be an awful show.

[Metallo]

Sting and TNA... match made in idiot heaven :o

Why is Sting an idiot? A lot of people might be disappointed that he didn't go to WWE or that he went back to TNA but thats pretty low. At least he never was a money grubbing liar like Nash. I just find it amusing that people talk crap about Nash for years and suddenly as soon as he goes back to WWE all his forgiven and people forget all the BS from him.

Sting himself never gave the impression that he was going to WWE.



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C'mooooon sextape...




One I'd want to see for certain is Bryan vs Triple H, for some reason it plays in my head like KENTA trying to beat Kobashi.

I'd like to see that too since I think Bryan could carry Burials to a good match and HHH is still decent enough to carry his end to an extent.



I've never heard that before but given it was WCW there is every chance.

In the Robosuit? Unless they heavily customized it or built a suit from scratch I doubt thats Mr Wonderful in there. The original Robo mold for the suit parts require a slightly built actor.



In truth given how big Nash was movign a tag with Show against Corre may be better for him.

People seem to forget how UGLY some of Show ands Nash's matches in WCW were. Like the one where Nash almost broke Shows neck witha jackknife. Show is better than he was then but Nash is over a decade OLDER. I wouldn't expect anything particularly good in a one on one match.

[Superark]

Why is Sting an idiot? A lot of people might be disappointed that he didn't go to WWE or that he went back to TNA but thats pretty low. At least he never was a money grubbing liar like Nash. I just find it amusing that people talk crap about Nash for years and suddenly as soon as he goes back to WWE all his forgiven and people forget all the BS from him.

Sting himself never gave the impression that he was going to WWE.

Yeah I don't get how Sting is an idiot either :huh:

You can hate on TNA's booking all ya want, but Sting is hardly an idiot and not a politician or egomaniac like so many other big names. He always goes with what the company gives him, whether its good or bad.

[louiebling$]

Ok yea saying he was an idiot went a lil too far but him going back to TNA really was a stupid move... regardless of him not going to the E... TNA does nothing for him and also him going and and taking the title like that once again done..we all know he has control over what he does... now if would have went in his music played he beats down Hardy then build up a fued to EVENTUALLY get the title that would be a hellavalot better but in the end its still just TNA and he will retire there and not get the proper send of The Icon Deserves...... him going back really just doesn't make sense... but yea your right saying he is an idiot was low and I take that back... just got caught up in it.

[Metallo]

Yeah I don't get how Sting is an idiot either :huh:

You can hate on TNA's booking all ya want, but Sting is hardly an idiot and not a politician or egomaniac like so many other big names. He always goes with what the company gives him, whether its good or bad.


Nash helped kill one of the hottest new names in the business with Goldberg.

Nash did the Fingerpoke of Doom.

Nash left WWF in 1996 when they needed him most.

Nash helped put WCW out of business and hurt the business as a whole.

Yet he goes back to WWE and people fawn all over him like nothing happened. He ALSO went to TNA for a lot of years and collected a check and would have stayed if he got a better offer.

And STING is an idiot just because he's doing what he wants to do and NOT hurting anyone else's career? Anything Sting does in TNA is him doing what he's told. he had no problem putting anyone over when the time came for it.

I just don't see the point of personally trashing the guy for that. He's given his blood and sweat to the business just like anyone else and paid his dues just like anyone else. Some people act like Sting pissed in their cheerios just because he didn't go up north or didn't retire.


Ok yea saying he was an idiot went a lil too far but him going back to TNA really was a stupid move... regardless of him not going to the E... TNA does nothing for him and also him going and and taking the title like that once again done..we all know he has control over what he does... now if would have went in his music played he beats down Hardy then build up a fued to EVENTUALLY get the title that would be a hellavalot better but in the end its still just TNA and he will retire there and not get the proper send of The Icon Deserves...... him going back really just doesn't make sense... but yea your right saying he is an idiot was low and I take that back... just got caught up in it.

Its not like he politiced to get the title. For all we know that was Spike tv's decision since they are so gung ho to get ratings up. USA makes demands of Raw for ratings and sometimes WWE has to submit.

[louiebling$]

You may be right.... I just think he made a mistake

[Superark]

Ok yea saying he was an idiot went a lil too far but him going back to TNA really was a stupid move... regardless of him not going to the E... TNA does nothing for him and also him going and and taking the title like that once again done..we all know he has control over what he does... now if would have went in his music played he beats down Hardy then build up a fued to EVENTUALLY get the title that would be a hellavalot better but in the end its still just TNA and he will retire there and not get the proper send of The Icon Deserves...... him going back really just doesn't make sense... but yea your right saying he is an idiot was low and I take that back... just got caught up in it.

Sting doesn't have to go to WWE and him choosing to go back to TNA is his choice and I don't see how it's stupid.

Sting gets paid $500,000 a year for limited dates (this is mostly paid for by SpikeTV since they push TNA to have him) working with TNA. He doesn't need the money anyhow since he was smart and saved and invested his money, but with what their offering why not take it if he can work the schedule he likes. So TNA does a lot for him.

Also, Sting likely does have the power to do whatever he wants with his storylines, but that's just not who he is. For years he's been known to just go with what WCW and TNA writes for him, whether it's good or bad booking or whether he likes it or not. He's never been a politician one way or the other when it comes to his career. In a lot of ways it has probably hurt his career because he hasn't been like Hogan, Austin, HBK, Nash, HHH etc..

I'd love to see Sting in aWWE ring, but those are selfish reasons. There are more reasons for Sting not to go to WWE than there is. I'm sure Sting feels secure with his legacy. If he truly was worried about it, he would have signed with WWE a long time ago.

One last thing, I know fans here try to hate on TNA for signing Sting but that's dumb. Sting is THE major major reason why they get so many international and licensing deals. That's the biggest reason TNA and Spike likes having him around. He actually means more to the company's bottom line than people think. Now you can argue and complain about the way they book him, that's fine and fair, and that's on TNA. But TNA having Sting is a good thing

[Hunter Rider]

I've got to stick up for my boy louie, I'm a huge Sting fan, he's in the top 5 of my all time favourites, but I think it was an idiot move on Sting's part as well.

I'm reading the Impact spoilers from the NC taping right now and if the show comes across as bad as it reads, it looks like its going to be an awful show.

It's so frustrating, they have no clue how to build to a big match and present anything as important, and they are determined to constantly overlook their own guys like AJ and Roode.

I'd like to see that too since I think Bryan could carry Burials to a good match and HHH is still decent enough to carry his end to an extent.

The potential is huge, if H was willing to do the honours in the long run it could be the making of Bryan.

In the Robosuit? Unless they heavily customized it or built a suit from scratch I doubt thats Mr Wonderful in there. The original Robo mold for the suit parts require a slightly built actor.


Ah right, I didn't know that. So it was Weller?

People seem to forget how UGLY some of Show ands Nash's matches in WCW were. Like the one where Nash almost broke Shows neck witha jackknife. Show is better than he was then but Nash is over a decade OLDER. I wouldn't expect anything particularly good in a one on one match.

The spectacle factor is very Wrestlemania and it being in Atlanta fueled the nostalgia, but realistically it would be "Bowling shoe ugly" to quite JR.

[Project862006]

the thing i sting is in is 50' and he does'nt want to travel so unless he would be back for 1 match and done whats the point

[Hunter Rider]

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[louiebling$]

I Hate on TNA because all the choices they have made... I tried to give TNA a chance I really did but I just can't do it anymore every single time I try and watch them its me cringing and facepalming over and over... and this really sucks because they have someof my favorite talent with them and the money to really do great things but For some damn reason the keep doing the same crap over and over and over and I'm tired of it... and it just feels like they are taking Sting down with them... I love sting probably not as much as some of you because growing up I watch a lot more WWF than WCW but I remember him and what he did there and I just can't watch TNA anymore which sucks because I want watch angle I want to watch Sting I want to watch Styles and MCMG's andand Hardy and Anderson... I just can't do it anymore

[Metallo]

If theres an idiot in TNA its Ric Flair. I love hearing him talk but its just painful watching him get beat up. He didn't actually wrestle thank goodness but still...watching Ric Flair getting beaten up is like watching mistreatment at a retirement home.

At least Hernandez looked impressive out there at moments. Maybe going down to Mexico to work did him some good.

[The Sage]

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[Phatman]

Major Exclusive Spoiler: Huge TNA Creative Plans For Tonight


As we reported earlier, ProWrestling.net has noted that Sting is backstage at the Impact tapings tonight.

WrestleZone has confirmed that Sting is in fact backstage at the taping, and that the current plan is to run a video at the end of tonight's Impact broadcast which will lead to Sting's return next week.

We have also learned that the creative plan as of this afternoon is to have Sting defeat Jeff Hardy for the TNA Title at the Impact taping tonight which will air next week. As always, things can change, and we will continue to keep you updated as more information becomes available.


http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/major-exclusive-spoiler-huge-tna-creative-plans-for-tonight-124677

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:cmad:

:csad:

WHY STING WHY?
Dude, you coulda gone to Wrestlemania and been in the Hall of fame. Legends Contract man, Legends contract! That means DVDs for us fans who want to see all your matches like the feud with Abdullah the Butcher, Vader, Ric Flair, Rick Rude, War Games, NWO in the rafters and a bunch of other cool stuff. Why continue to waste time working with TNFAIL, that place is gonna be out of business sooner rather than later.

Most of us are tired of watching VHS Bootlegs on YouTube. We wants us some official DVDS!

On another note, that TNA belt gets passed around more than hooch at a hobo camp. Wasn't Mr. Anderson the champ a couple of weeks ago?

And I thought WWE titles had no value.

[Metallo]

Sting doesn't have to go to WWE and him choosing to go back to TNA is his choice and I don't see how it's stupid.

Sting gets paid $500,000 a year for limited dates (this is mostly paid for by SpikeTV since they push TNA to have him) working with TNA. He doesn't need the money anyhow since he was smart and saved and invested his money, but with what their offering why not take it if he can work the schedule he likes. So TNA does a lot for him.

Also, Sting likely does have the power to do whatever he wants with his storylines, but that's just not who he is. For years he's been known to just go with what WCW and TNA writes for him, whether it's good or bad booking or whether he likes it or not. He's never been a politician one way or the other when it comes to his career. In a lot of ways it has probably hurt his career because he hasn't been like Hogan, Austin, HBK, Nash, HHH etc..

I'd love to see Sting in aWWE ring, but those are selfish reasons. There are more reasons for Sting not to go to WWE than there is. I'm sure Sting feels secure with his legacy. If he truly was worried about it, he would have signed with WWE a long time ago.

One last thing, I know fans here try to hate on TNA for signing Sting but that's dumb. Sting is THE major major reason why they get so many international and licensing deals. That's the biggest reason TNA and Spike likes having him around. He actually means more to the company's bottom line than people think. Now you can argue and complain about the way they book him, that's fine and fair, and that's on TNA. But TNA having Sting is a good thing


I agree. Sounds to me more like Sting wants to give back to the business instead of suck it dry. He's not working because he HAS to like Flair and he's his own man that doesn't feel like being owned by Vince McMahon. Stings financially secure when some of his friends have no choice but to wrestle. How much of an idiot could be?

Why would Sting NEED to go to WWE? The business isn't his whole life like some people and he's done good for himself. He's not going through wives the way some people go through beers like Hogan and Flair. He hasn't f***ed over other people to get his spot. Maybe some wrestlers should look at Sting to smarten themselves up.

Go to WWE so Vince can potentially screw him over? He f***ed over DSW. He f***ed over his own company when he couldn't agree to the simple terms of the deal with the World Wildlife Fund. He wipped his d*** out and tried to get into a pissing contest with the state of Connecticut and the federal government. And "creative control" doesn't mean a whole lot to him sometimes. Look at Bret Hart. If Sting wants to be his own man and call his own I don't see how that makes him an idiot.



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:cmad:

:csad:

WHY STING WHY?
Dude, you coulda gone to Wrestlemania and been in the Hall of fame. Legends Contract man, Legends contract! That means DVDs for us fans who want to see all your matches like the feud with Abdullah the Butcher, Vader, Ric Flair, Rick Rude, War Games, NWO in the rafters and a bunch of other cool stuff. Why continue to waste time working with TNFAIL, that place is gonna be out of business sooner rather than later.

Most of us are tired of watching VHS Bootlegs on YouTube. We wants us some official DVDS!

On another note, that TNA belt gets passed around more than hooch at a hobo camp. Wasn't Mr. Anderson the champ a couple of weeks ago?

And I thought WWE titles had no value.


Theres more than enough Sting material on WWE dvd's.

Sting has given the fans 25 years of busting his a** for us. When does he reach a point were he doesn't owe us and just owes himself to do what he wants with his own life?

If Sting is gonna choose between spending more time with his family when he wants to or going to Wrestlemania I'd say good for him for choosing to do what he wants to do. Lets put things in perspective here.

I doubt Sting spends his nights sleepless because he didn't wrestle at wrestlemania. He's probably a little more content that he's got his life in order and didn't end up on a slab like so many of his contemporaries. That REALLY puts things into perspective.

[Superark]

I Hate on TNA because all the choices they have made... I tried to give TNA a chance I really did but I just can't do it anymore every single time I try and watch them its me cringing and facepalming over and over... and this really sucks because they have someof my favorite talent with them and the money to really do great things but For some damn reason the keep doing the same crap over and over and over and I'm tired of it... and it just feels like they are taking Sting down with them... I love sting probably not as much as some of you because growing up I watch a lot more WWF than WCW but I remember him and what he did there and I just can't watch TNA anymore which sucks because I want watch angle I want to watch Sting I want to watch Styles and MCMG's andand Hardy and Anderson... I just can't do it anymore


TNA is very frustrating. They have so much potential and just waste it with their booking. With SpikeTV now starting to pressure them about ratings, I really do worry about their long term health.

[louiebling$]

TNA is very frustrating. They have so much potential and just waste it with their booking. With SpikeTV now starting to pressure them about ratings, I really do worry about their long term health.
I give them 5 Years... if they don't get their **** together before then then they will go under because Spike will drop them and I don't think anyone else will pick them up

[bullets]

I Hate on TNA because all the choices they have made... I tried to give TNA a chance I really did but I just can't do it anymore every single time I try and watch them its me cringing and facepalming over and over... and this really sucks because they have someof my favorite talent with them and the money to really do great things but For some damn reason the keep doing the same crap over and over and over and I'm tired of it... and it just feels like they are taking Sting down with them... I love sting probably not as much as some of you because growing up I watch a lot more WWF than WCW but I remember him and what he did there and I just can't watch TNA anymore which sucks because I want watch angle I want to watch Sting I want to watch Styles and MCMG's and Hardy and Anderson... I just can't do it anymore


I'm biased towards WWE and so I'm disappointed Sting went back to TNA. However I don't know what goes on inside Borden's mind but hopefully he made the right decision for himself. I never really been invested in TNA, I found it hard to get into the programming. There have been some good matches and great talent over there. I like Jeff Hardy's new persona and promos. The booking sounds terrible though..

[Heretic]

Wow...they actually just had Matt Morgan talk about how wrong it was for Hernandez to return after months away to cost his ex tag team partner the title...and TNA just expects everyone to forget that Matt actually turned on Hernandez and severely injured him, which is why he's been gone. Sadly, a large portion of TNA's audience probably has forgotten.

[Heretic]

And TNA is spending more on a couple appearances from Jersey Shore girls than they pay their entire X Division for the year.

[Metamorpho1977]

I want TNA to succeed but their best days were when they were doing the weekly ppvs in the early days.

[Metallo]

I'm biased towards WWE and so I'm disappointed Sting went back to TNA. However I don't know what goes on inside Borden's mind but hopefully he made the right decision for himself. I never really been invested in TNA, I found it hard to get into the programming. There have been some good matches and great talent over there. I like Jeff Hardy's new persona and promos. The booking sounds terrible though..


I've never been biased towards any promotion. Great wrestling is great wrestling. I'm a wrestling fan not a WWE fan. When TNA puts on some crap I turn the channel. The same for WWE. When they put on some good wrestling I watch. I watch what i liek and ignore what I don't.

If WWE wanted Sting badly enough they could have gotten him. Vince should have met every demand Sting had if he wanted him that badly. Stings shown that he doesn't need WWE because he doesn't need the money. The ball was in McMahons court here and he's made the imposssible happen so I can't really blame anyone but McMahon.

I grew up watching Sting for Sting and the good matches he put on. As long as that was good I didn't care what three letters it was for.

The same was true for any wrestler. When Flair went to WWF in 91 I still wanted to see him. The same was true for Hogan, Savage, Piper, Rude, Hennig, etc. wherever they went.

David Otunga wrestling in WWE doesn't magically make him suck any less.

[venom892]

You know what I think would actually make a decent match at Mania this year?The Corre vs. Booker/Show/Diesel. It be a nice nostagia trip for the WCW fans.

[Metallo]

I give them 5 Years... if they don't get their **** together before then then they will go under because Spike will drop them and I don't think anyone else will pick them up


Five years ago people were saying they would be dead now. And 16 years ago people had sour predictions for WWE. Its hard to predict whats going to happen in these situations.

ECW had the guy that some people hoped would be the savior of TNA running it and ECW still went out of business.

And there was no ONE reason WCW went out of business. Even though they were bleeding money if those Turner execs hadn't looked down their nose at WCW it would probably still be around. Most of them were ashamed of wrestling and without Ted Turner having the final say so he wasn't able to keep it around.

Its not like Time Warner had LESS money than WWE and they HAD to sell WCW. They just didn't want to deal with it anymore because it was losing money and most of all certain people hated it from the beggining.

[Heretic]

OMG!!! Did you guys just see Impact??? UNDERTAKER IS COMING NEXT WEEK!!!!!!


Or not...

[BlackLantern]

heh....TNA ticks me off because they have the better wrestlers, but can't get it together with their creative stuff

[Metallo]

I got a good laugh out of TNA making fun of the 2-21 people being POSITIVE Sting was going to WWE. I don't mean speculation but those people who go their hopes up HUGE despite the fact that there was never any concrete proof and the 2-21 videos being for Taker were the simplest explanation.

If WWE were willing to let people keep believing 2-21 was about a TNA wrestler then I say why not have a little joke over it?


heh....TNA ticks me off because they have the better wrestlers, but can't get it together with their creative stuff

Gotta defend WWE here. Their roster is easily just as good as TNA's. The TNA wrestlers just get a little more leeway to do what they want to in the ring and on the mike. The Knockouts are a good example of this.

The young talent on the two rosters is comparable right now.

[Superark]

OMG!!! Did you guys just see Impact??? UNDERTAKER IS COMING NEXT WEEK!!!!!!


Or not...

LOL yeah totallly playing off the 2-21-11 video. Then again, that 2-21-11 video was very Starrcade 97 esque anyways. The TNA version was even much more of a Starrcade promo video

[Heretic]

TNA isn't laughing over this...they are copying it. This isn't a parody, it's an attempt to get the internet to explode over the return of Sting...and the truth is that no one cares about Sting returning to face Jeff Jarrett at the Sussudio PPV.

[Superark]

I got a good laugh out of TNA making fun of the 2-21 people being POSITIVE Sting was going to WWE. I don't mean speculation but those people who go their hopes up HUGE despite the fact that there was never any concrete proof and the 2-21 videos being for Taker were the simplest explanation.

If WWE were willing to let people keep believing 2-21 was about a TNA wrestler then I say why not have a little joke over it?


Indeed. In fact, the guys over at PWInsider.com were just talking about this today

[Metallo]

LOL yeah totallly playing off the 2-21-11 video. Then again, that 2-21-11 video was very Starrcade 97 esque anyways. The TNA version was even much more of a Starrcade promo video

The 2-21 videos seemed to be more old west or rustic influenced. More earth tone colors. That video TNA just played seemed MUCH more like the Starcade promos with the cooler colors and all that rain. It looked more like a blown out urban center. Very "crow" ish

The earth toney colors in some of the 2-21 vids were a little closer to the setting of Takers 2007 desert set return promos so I always figured it was most likely him.

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[BlackLantern]

Gotta defend WWE here. Their roster is easily just as good as TNA's. The TNA wrestlers just get a little more leeway to do what they want to in the ring and on the mike. The Knockouts are a good example of this.

The young talent on the two rosters is comparable right now.

younger talent, yes...but overall, just based on talent alone and what I see on TV...I think TNA has the edge on better wrestlers

[bullets]

Are all those viewers that came back to see Rock going to stick around after he leaves again? Its the same criticism Nash leveled at WWE a few months ago. Are they booking for the present or booking for the present and future?


They are just booking for the present. It might be possible Vince thinks they'll get back some of the older viewers with this feud but it's really just cashing in . It would be nice is they used this opportunity to make a star or elevate someone to the next level. I suppose you could say that's where Del Rio comes in but no one cares for that on an emotional level.

[Metallo]

younger talent, yes...but overall, just based on talent alone and what I see on TV...I think TNA has the edge on better wrestlers

Even older talent is similar. I'd stack Kurt Angle against ANYONE in WWE young or old. I'd also stack Taker on a good day against anyone in TNA young or old. Bryan Danielson is as good or BETTER than anyone in TNA as far as wrestling goes. WWE just has a BIGGER roster so its going to seem like there are more weaker talents in WWE. Thats where the disparity may be in your mind.

WWE's talent roster is just as strong as far as wrestlers right now. TNA wrestlers just aren't limited as much in the ring by things like PG guidelines. They can be a little stiffer. Plus Vince has a certain style he wants to see and doesn't want his wrestlers to get to far away from that.

Both companies have their strong wrestlers, their grapples, their brawlers, and stuff like that. Doug Williams is good. But William Regal is even better.




They are just booking for the present. It might be possible Vince thinks they'll get back some of the older viewers with this feud but it's really just cashing in . It would be nice is they used this opportunity to make a star or elevate someone to the next level. I suppose you could say that's where Del Rio comes in but no one cares for that on an emotional level.

I think they need to use this opportunity to make their current roster more appealing for the future instead of using the Rock as a quick fix ratings/buyrate solution. Its something thats really plagued the big companies for the last 15 years. WWE WCW and TNA. They don't always think of the long term ramifications. Thats just what i think of when I look at Sheamus and The Miz right now.

or the way Del Rio is getting the superpush because they WWE has to play catchup because they dragged their feet on making new stars.

or WWE having to push Taker vs HHH at the last minute to shore up a limp looking Mania card.

or TNAs "They 2.0" with the MEM returning then changed tot Fortune turning.

Or Spike and TNA putting the belt back on Sting when it should be on AJ Styles or someone like that.

This short term thinking isn't just a WWE or TNA problem but a problem affecting both.

[bullets]

You know what I think would actually make a decent match at Mania this year?The Corre vs. Booker/Show/Diesel. It be a nice nostagia trip for the WCW fans.


:up: Not a bad idea .

I've never been biased towards any promotion. Great wrestling is great wrestling. I'm a wrestling fan not a WWE fan. When TNA puts on some crap I turn the channel. The same for WWE. When they put on some good wrestling I watch. I watch what i like and ignore what I don't.


I prefer to watch WWE on a weekly basis but I do watch matches from other promotions for the same reason as you've mentioned above. I've just had a hard time following TNA . I didn't mean to imply I only watch one promotion but I'm not following all of them on a regular basis.



If WWE wanted Sting badly enough they could have gotten him. Vince should have met every demand Sting had if he wanted him that badly. Stings shown that he doesn't need WWE because he doesn't need the money. The ball was in McMahons court here and he's made the impossible happen so I can't really blame anyone but McMahon.


I don't know what went down or what Vince offered. I would assume the world because that's what most of us would have done. I wish I was a fly on the wall during one of their conversations.

[Dr. Evil]

Abby the Butcher better be announced for WWE Hall of Fame soon. It would be a great sight to see and hopefully he forks Hornswoggle on his way up.

And I am still wanting to see Cyndi Lauper as the celebrity in the WWE Hall of Fame. For her not to go in due to her contributions to the WWE when it went national back in the 80's is a shame. Sadly, we don't get to see Captain Lou Albano induct her when she goes in. That would have been awesome to see. Oh well. If she ever goes in, it should be Wendi Richter, who went in last year. She's more deserving of being in the celebrity wing of the Hall of Fame then William "The Fridge" Perry (who sadly, I don't think is much long for this earth).

She was one of the reasons for the whole "Rock N'Wrestling" craze of 25 years ago. During that time, she was one of the biggest pop stars in the country, if not the planet. Her and Mr. T played significant roles in the early years of the WWE going national.

I hear complaints of the WWE wanting such and such celebrity, well, let's not forget that it's been going on since 1985, when the WWE went national. It started with Cyndi Lauper and Mr. T, both of whom I think should be in the celebrity wing of the WWE Hall of Fame.

[Metallo]

TNA isn't laughing over this...they are copying it. This isn't a parody, it's an attempt to get the internet to explode over the return of Sting...and the truth is that no one cares about Sting returning to face Jeff Jarrett at the Sussudio PPV.

its both. Its meant to get people excited for Stings return but it IS a parody. They even used the same style of numbering the WWE videos used. If it wasn't a parody they would have done a completely different kind of video to hype Stings return.

Its not UNHEARD of for wrestling companies to do parodies. WWF's "Huckster and Nacho Man" spots. Gillberg. WCW using The Renegade. TNA's tried to make light of things WWE has done in the past but this is the one time where I think it actually makes sense.



I prefer to watch WWE on a weekly basis but I do watch matches from other promotions for the same reason as you've mentioned above. I've just had a hard time following TNA . I didn't mean to imply I only watch one promotion but I'm not following all of them on a regular basis.

I'd tell you to watch what you like and skip what you don't. It saves on annoyances and headaches. There have been periods where I stop watching ANY wrestling for whatever reason.



I don't know what went down or what Vince offered. I would assume the world because that's what most of us would have done. I wish I was a fly on the wall during one of their conversations.I think in the past Vince probably offered Sting any money he asked for but the DATES were going to be a huge deciding factor for him. I think in the past its probably come down to how much Sting was asked to be on the road.

Sting may have also wanted a certain level of control. As we've seen in the past few years Vince has become MORE controlling of his wrestlers not less.

I think Vince should have given Sting anything he wanted because it would have been worth it but like Black Lantern said the other day Vince may not have been willing to give that last inch.

I don't know what Sting wanted but if Sting only wanted to work 2 days a month Vince should have signed the deal. If Sting only wanted to do a couple of shots Vince should have signed the deal. Vince still could have made a ton of money off Sting even with limited use.

[NDX]

One I'd want to see for certain is Bryan vs Triple H, for some reason it plays in my head like KENTA trying to beat Kobashi.
The young upstart trying to topple the grizzled veteran known for being able to beat everyone at any given time?

Yeah, sounds appropriate.

[Heretic]

I get what you're saying...but TO ME it just felt like TNA was hoping that people would see the vignette and the emotions from the Taker vignette would continue...which is why the numbers were the same and all...to make it seem like the vignettes really WERE about Sting all along, and TNA won the battle...I'm not getting a "parody" vibe, as in it was trying to make a joke.

But I see your point.

[Dr. Evil]

Because of Shawn Michaels, this year's WWE Hall of Fame is better than last years, although I expect next year's to be even better.

[Metallo]

I get what you're saying...but TO ME it just felt like TNA was hoping that people would see the vignette and the emotions from the Taker vignette would continue...which is why the numbers were the same and all...to make it seem like the vignettes really WERE about Sting all along, and TNA won the battle...I'm not getting a "parody" vibe, as in it was trying to make a joke.

But I see your point.


Its TNA taking the piss out of WWE with a cheap gag while it also promotes something they want to promote. There was no mystery to the video since they showed Sting clear as day...Sting...the guy a lot of wrestling fans THOUGHT was the person being teased in WWE's videos. A parody isn't always extremely goofy or silly.

TNA is playing off WWE letting people continue to believe that for a few weeks. WWE never said its videos were about Sting. But they never said they weren't either. They knew people were fired up for it to be Sting and they wanted some of that hype.

But I also bet when Taker and HHH came out on Raw a lot of people were disappointed it WASN'T Sting. If they didn't hope for Sting all these net fans wouldn't have been whipping up photoshop stuff of Sting vs Taker at Mania.

But its even more obvious in hindsight the WWE 2-21 videos were never about Sting. Even after they SHOWED Taker in the 2-21 videos some people were coming up with all these theories to STILL try to show that Sting was coming to WWE. The simplest answer was ALWAYS that those vids were for The Undertaker.


Abby the Butcher better be announced for WWE Hall of Fame soon. It would be a great sight to see and hopefully he forks Hornswoggle on his way up.

And I am still wanting to see Cyndi Lauper as the celebrity in the WWE Hall of Fame. For her not to go in due to her contributions to the WWE when it went national back in the 80's is a shame. Sadly, we don't get to see Captain Lou Albano induct her when she goes in. That would have been awesome to see. Oh well. If she ever goes in, it should be Wendi Richter, who went in last year. She's more deserving of being in the celebrity wing of the Hall of Fame then William "The Fridge" Perry (who sadly, I don't think is much long for this earth).

She was one of the reasons for the whole "Rock N'Wrestling" craze of 25 years ago. During that time, she was one of the biggest pop stars in the country, if not the planet. Her and Mr. T played significant roles in the early years of the WWE going national.

I hear complaints of the WWE wanting such and such celebrity, well, let's not forget that it's been going on since 1985, when the WWE went national. It started with Cyndi Lauper and Mr. T, both of whom I think should be in the celebrity wing of the WWE Hall of Fame.

I think the issue is in the way celebs are used. If they are used properly they can really enhance a big event. If used wrong it just looks stupid and low rent.

Lauper deserves to be in the WWE HOF as much as anyone because she was used well and made an impact during a pivotal time for WWE.

[Heretic]

Sting vs Taker at mania would have been one of those once in a decade, and possibly never again since there's no real competition for WWE moments...it's a shame that we won't see that happen.

[Project862006]

imo it wont ever happen now i see taker vs cena next year as taker's final match

[Metallo]

Its a little to late for it IMO. I'd rather see Sting and Taker go at it in their prime instead of two breaking down middle agers. If Vince wanted Sting vs Taker he should have opened up his check book all the way five years ago and met any demands Sting wanted. Sting doesn't need WWE. For Sting vs Taker to happen WWE needs Sting.

Plus it just felt wrong for it to be RUSHED the way it would have. Sting coming in and building to a match with Taker over a number of months or a year is just much better than a 6 week build were Sting is guaranteed to lose his first WWE match.



The young upstart trying to topple the grizzled veteran known for being able to beat everyone at any given time?

Yeah, sounds appropriate.

Thats if HHH wants to do the job of course. I can already picture the list of excuses HHH would be pulling out of that nose of his.

I think it could be a great match if booked right though.

[Hunter Rider]

The young upstart trying to topple the grizzled veteran known for being able to beat everyone at any given time?

Yeah, sounds appropriate.

Yeah pretty much that, I loved their match as part of KENTA's 'trials' series. Kobahsi even busted out the Burning Hammer if I recall correctly.


imo it wont ever happen now i see taker vs cena next year as taker's final match

I agree, they have to do the Hogan vs Andre of this generation at next years Mania.

[NDX]

It's a story that can work if they plan to make Bryan a major star.

I turned to TNA for a second, and saw Madison Rayne wrestling Carrot Top with a bad dye job and even worse implants. What the **** was up with that?!

Thats if HHH wants to do the job of course. I can already picture the list of excuses HHH would be pulling out of that nose of his.

I think it could be a great match if booked right though.

The match itself can most likely be a good one because of the 2 people in it. It would just be more about how they book the structure and ending. Bryan needs to look like an underdog, but a contender and someone who can keep up, not someone who'se there for Hunter to devour whole.

[Metallo]

I agree, they have to do the Hogan vs Andre of this generation at next years Mania.

Plus its one of the few dream matches left in WWE. They've crossed paths very little one on one since Cena's thuganomics days when they last feuded.

Cena's also one of the few people left with the credibility to be believable enough to break the streak. its interesting how the ante has been upped every year. At first you'd never saw Taker wrestling top guys at Mania. The first one I can really think of is HHH. Now it seems like it has to be top guys otherwise the match isn't big enough.


It's a story that can work if they plan to make Bryan a major star.

I turned to TNA for a second, and saw Madison Rayne wrestling Carrot Top with a bad dye job and even worse implants. What the **** was up with that?!

Sounds like Old Dirty Butch but she's a lot more macho looking than Carrot Top. Even the post roids Carrot Top.


The match itself can most likely be a good one because of the 2 people in it. It would just be more about how they book the structure and ending. Bryan needs to look like an underdog, but a contender and someone who can keep up, not someone who'se there for Hunter to devour whole.

Oh I'm sure they can make it work. The two of them are just too talented. Vince and HHH would just have to be willing to be more open minded about Bryan and let him look like a he's got a chance.

[NDX]

Plus its one of the few dream matches left in WWE. They've crossed paths very little one on one since Cena's thuganomics days when they last feuded.

Cena's also one of the few people left with the credibility to be believable enough to break the streak. its interesting how the ante has been upped every year. At first you'd never saw Taker wrestling top guys at Mania. The first one I can really think of is HHH. Now it seems like it has to be top guys otherwise the match isn't big enough.

It is, at this point, a major match that needs to happen, and the best place for it is WM. At this point, if the streak is to be broken, Cena might be the last one worth giving it to. And yes, I know, 10% of the wrestling viewers will really take this as a step back in wrestling while the rest of the fans will see it as a step forward with WWE's ability to sell damn near anything.

Oh I'm sure they can make it work. The two of them are just too talented. Vince and HHH would just have to be willing to be more open minded about Bryan and let him look like a he's got a chance.

I'm looking at Bryan's potential match with Sheamus as something that will be telling on where they plan for him. While Sheamus has been depushed as of late, he's still booked as a bull in the ring and should be able to roll over Bryan. If he does, Bryan's chances of getting out of the midcard will be little to nothing. But if they book it that Bryan plays underdog but pulls out a win over the bully, then there might be willing to overlook his size and plainness and book him farther than many expected.

Maybe he can finally punch Cena in the ear after that.

[Hunter Rider]

Plus its one of the few dream matches left in WWE. They've crossed paths very little one on one since Cena's thuganomics days when they last feuded.

Cena's also one of the few people left with the credibility to be believable enough to break the streak. its interesting how the ante has been upped every year. At first you'd never saw Taker wrestling top guys at Mania. The first one I can really think of is HHH. Now it seems like it has to be top guys otherwise the match isn't big enough.

Yeah I think they have only had one match in the last 8 years and it was on Raw with no finish.

Exactly, him and Orton are the only two right now I could see as credible in beating Taker.

It is, at this point, a major match that needs to happen, and the best place for it is WM. At this point, if the streak is to be broken, Cena might be the last one worth giving it to. And yes, I know, 10% of the wrestling viewers will really take this as a step back in wrestling while the rest of the fans will see it as a step forward with WWE's ability to sell damn near anything.

Whether people like it or not Cena is going to be at the top of the company for a long time yet, even if WWE move back to an edgier product he will still be on top as Monday showed, even if he turns heel he will still be on top, basically him losing makes no sense at all.

I'm looking at Bryan's potential match with Sheamus as something that will be telling on where they plan for him. While Sheamus has been depushed as of late, he's still booked as a bull in the ring and should be able to roll over Bryan. If he does, Bryan's chances of getting out of the midcard will be little to nothing. But if they book it that Bryan plays underdog but pulls out a win over the bully, then there might be willing to overlook his size and plainness and book him farther than many expected.

Maybe he can finally punch Cena in the ear after that.It's always been hard to guage where WWE see Bryan going long term, but for the most part he's barely lost and was put clean over the guy they were planning to (and did) make WWE champ, and was Cena's mystery partner at the 2nd biggest PPV of the year amidst the biggest angle of the year.

A match with Sheamus I think is the test, if he looks credible in Vince's eyes then he will be seen as a guy that can work with Cena and Orton. The fact he made their champ look so good on last Monday's Raw must have held him in good stead with management, and over the years Vince has always had one technical wrestler in his main event mix.

[Assassin]

Mistico debuts on Raw after Wrestlemania (Sin Cara)
Have Rey take his heal up time break up until Summer Slam
Until then have him bounce between Smackdown and Raw deciding where he wants to go.
When Rey comes back during Summer Slam, they meet each other for the first time, shake hands
Wherever Sin Cara goes, Rey goes on the opposite show.
Next major PPV Survivor series or whatever they show signs of Rey's jealousy and when Sin tries to shake his hand (with the IC or US title on his shoulder) Rey brushes him off
At Royal Rumble, full heel turn of Rey when he screws over Sin in whatever match he's in.
Wrestlemania 28, their first ever match.

[Assassin]

(the way i'd build up Sin Cara to replace Rey since he's leaving any ways)

[louiebling$]

Mistico debuts on Raw after Wrestlemania (Sin Cara)
Have Rey take his heal up time break up until Summer Slam
Until then have him bounce between Smackdown and Raw deciding where he wants to go.
When Rey comes back during Summer Slam, they meet each other for the first time, shake hands
Wherever Sin Cara goes, Rey goes on the opposite show.
Next major PPV Survivor series or whatever they show signs of Rey's jealousy and when Sin tries to shake his hand (with the IC or US title on his shoulder) Rey brushes him off
At Royal Rumble, full heel turn of Rey when he screws over Sin in whatever match he's in.
Wrestlemania 28, their first ever match.

That actually sounds really good

[LuisTX85]

Was looking at Mistico's press-conference coverage&photos at WWE.com!.....Name could be so much worse and I'm just worried how his character will be used and how his pushes will be played out!

I'm pretty surprised how the ADR character has been used&pushed!,Mostly in a good-way for me,When I first heard that Mistico was headed to WWE and that CMLL owned the rights to the name&character.....I feared they would use him as ADR's face cousin or something.

I'm looking forward to him in WWE and I have some hopes for him already just based on how the press-conference was done and he's still pretty much Mistico with a new name and small modifications to the suit!

[Assassin]

That actually sounds really good

knowing wwe, their first match will be on Smackdown next week in a random match.

I wish they rehire SuperCrazy, i miss that mother ****er

[Nightmare]

That does seem to be laid out pretty well. I hope they dont mess up this feud.

[Assassin]

thanks guys:up:

[Heretic]

As good as you planned that out...we all know that Rey and Sin will have wrestled each other 30 times by Wrestlemania 2012...building a long term arc is not exactly a strong suit in wrestling these days.

[louiebling$]

It would be refreshing

[Assassin]

As good as you planned that out...we all know that Rey and Sin will have wrestled each other 30 times by Wrestlemania 2012...building a long term arc is not exactly a strong suit in wrestling these days.

his debut match will be vs rey, watch. :csad:

[bullets]

It would be great if they managed to keep them apart for awhile so they could build up the match but hard to imagine that happening.

When was the last time WWE had a press conference involving the signing of a wrestler?

[Assassin]

Why can't Teddy Hart not be a **** up? why can't Umaga not be dead? why can't Mohamed Hassan not be fired because of UPN being pussys? Why couldn't Boogyman be a really good wrestler so we could have seen an epic match vs Undertaker?

:(

[Wylie Times]

his debut match will be vs rey, watch. :csad:

WWE isn't that stupid. They'll save that for PPV.

His first match will most likely be against Chavo since he knows how to work a lucha libre style. After Chavo it'll probably be Bourne, then Danielson, then Rey.

[enterthemadness]

So, on March 3rd in North Carolina...


A Returning Sting beats Jeff Hardy for the TNA Title!! My thoughts? A druggie who deserves prison time shouldn't be champ. Haven't been watching TNA much lately, so I can't really comment on Hardy's promos and matches, but he broke the law.

I'll actually TRY to watch Impact the next two weeks, just to see what the crowd is like being it's two tv tapings only a few hours away in North Carolina.

That ring is small and where is X-Division?

[Superark]

TNA IMPACT SPOILERS FOR NEXT TWO WEEKS, VICTORY ROAD PPV MAIN EVENT ANNOUNCED




Since I have to be in Charlotte for work tomorrow, I flew in a day early and went to TNA in Fayetteville, NC tonight. I forgot my phone in the car and security wouldn't let me go back to the car, so here's the results of the show. Sorry I couldn't do live.


The building looked to have about 1,500-3,000 there. Lots of military. The crowd was hot for the show, especially the Hardys, Hogan and Flair.

3/3 Taping:

*TNA President Dixie Carter came out but was stopped by Immortal. Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan announced they had won the court case and controlled the entire fate of TNA completely again. They had Dixie removed from the building. Fortune came out but couldn't stop it. It didn't seem to get over, especially since the crowd cheered Hogan.

*Beer Money beat Gunner & Murphy. Ink, Ink challenged Beer Money to a title match at the Victory Road PPV.

*In a bout where she would have had to retire if she lost, Velvet Sky beat Sarita.

*Robbie, Cookie and Angelina from Jersey Shore come out. Angelina ripped on JWow, challenging her to return to TNA and get a piece of her.

*Karen and Jeff Jarrett renew their vows. Orlando Jordan and Eric Young are in the wedding party. Kurt Angle attacked Jeff immediately and the cake was supposed to go in Karen's face but it seemed like they messed something up.

*Scott Steiner beat Rob Terry. Not good.

*Hernandez beat Matt Morgan via DQ.

*They played a 3/3/11 video as an Undertaker knockoff, leading to....

*Sting beat Jeff Hardy to win the TNA title in her return to the company. Huge pop for Sting's return. He looked better in the ring than he did during the last run. Sting wins with the Scorpion Death Drop.


3/10/11 Taping:

*Pope Dinero nailed Samoa Joe with a foreign object to score the pin.

*TNA Knockouts champion Madison Rayne cut a promo challenging any Knockout past or present to face her. Out comes Roxxi. Rayne defeats her. No one in NC seemed to know who Roxxi was. Mickie James made the save.

*Angelina from Jersey Shore, Sarita and Cookie defeated Velvet Sky, Winter and Angelina Love. Angelina was exactly what you would expect from someone working their first match.

*Ink Inc. defeated Generation Me. Beer Money did commentary.

*New TNA champion Sting comes out and cuts a promo, saying that it's no secret he had other offers, but he is loyal to TNA as they are his brand. He starts getting emotional and says that he respects Jeff Hardy but Hardy made the wrong choices. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff come out and they go back and forth on WCW and their past. Mr. Anderson comes out and demands his title rematch. Jeff Hardy comes out and says that if anyone is getting a rematch, it's him. This brings out RVD, who says that he wants his shot at the title. Hogan announces Sting vs. Jeff Hardy will be the main event of Victory Road. Hogan and Bischoff set up a tag team main event.

*Matt Hardy defeated AJ Styles in a good brawl. Ric Flair managed Hardy and this was North Carolina, so guess who the babyfaces were?

*TNA champion Sting and RVD defeated Jeff Hardy and Mr. Anderson. It was OK but the entire time, I kept thinking that it made no sense that any of these guys wanted to team with the other. The show was OK.





More detailed TNA IMPACT SPOILERS for 3/3/11



The Crown Coliseum was set up like TNA usually does with big arenas, with one-half blocked off by a big black curtain with the entrance stage in the middle. By the opening bell, the floor and lower level was almost completely full, so for TNA it was a big crowd, a couple thousand people at least. The crowd was loud, but not as loud as it felt like it could have been given the number of fans in the building.

Before and during the show, Jeremy Borash did the spiel he does at the house shows, promising backstage passes to the loudest fans.


Before the taping started, some footage from the February 24 Impact episode was shown; a bunch of Jeff & Karen Jarrett skits as they picked out wedding clothes and talked to a priest, and the first half of the three-way match between Angle, RVD, and Anderson.

Dixe Carter xame to the ring to speak to the fans. She said that the morning’s decision by the judge concerning who controls TNA didn’t go in her favor. Eric Bischoff and Immortal (Matt Hardy, Rob Terry, Gunner, and Murphy) came out to gloat, saying they are in total control of TNA now. Bischoff said he still thinks Dixie’s got a lot of balls, even though she is a woman in the man’s world of pro wrestling. Ric Flair came out next (to a babyface pop, since the show’s in N.C.) and said some stuff to Dixie, like that there was a Holiday Inn nearby where they could go.

Eric Bischoff then introduced the returning Hulk Hogan. He got more cheers than boos. Hogan rambled a little less than he usually does on TNA shows, talking about how he and Eric were 100 percent in control of the company now.

Next, Fortune came out and cut some decent promos (except for Kazarian, who just had a bad one-liner). When they tried to go into the ring to fight Immortal, TNA security stopped them.

(1) TNA tag champions Beer Money (Robert Roode & “Cowboy” James Storm) beat Gunner & Murphy to retain the TNA World Tag Team Titles. The match was even-steven until Beer Money took control in the last minute and won with a DWI.

After the match, Ink Inc. came out and Shannon Moore issued a challenge to Beer Money for a tag title match at Victory Road, which Storm and Roode accepted.

(2) Velvet Sky (w/Angelina Love) beat Sarita (w/Rosita) with a DDT. This was the match with the stipulation that if Velvet lost, she would quit TNA. During the match, Love and Rosita ended up in the ring fighting each other, so referee Earl Hebner sent them both to the back for the rest of the match. The action in this match wasn’t pretty, but the contest was short, at least.

After the match, Robbie E., Cookie, and Angelina Pivarnick from “Jersey Shore” came out to confront the Beautiful People. In the first of many slips of the night, Robbie E. fell on his butt as the Shore reached the bottom of the entrance ramp and Cookie was cutting a promo. It ended up a brawl, then Velvet issued a challenge for a six-woman tag match on the next week’s show.

Next was supposed to be the Jarrett vow renewal ceremony. A multi-tiered wedding cake was set up on the entrance stage. Eric Young and Orlando Jordan came out first, with Young as the ring bearer and Jordan (in a woman’s skirt) as the flower girl. Jeff Jarrett followed, but before he could make his way down the ramp, Kurt Angle attacked him from behind, slipping on the stage as he ran out. Angle beat on Jeff for 30 seconds, then Karen ran out and jumped on Kurt’s back to get him off of Jeff. Kurt ended up grabbing Karen and putting her face through the wedding cake.

(3) Scott Steiner beat “The Freak” Rob Terry with the Steiner Recliner. Steiner dominated most of the match, which only lasted a few minutes.

Around this time, Borash announced that the Jarrett ceremony would still take place tonight it ended up being the last thing filmed, so presumably it airs on March 10 instead of March 3 as advertised.

(4) Hernandez vs. Matt Morgan ended in a double count-out. During this match, someone I didn’t recognize joined Taz and Tenay on commentary. Morgan controlled the match until they ended up on the outside and Hernandez sent Morgan into the ring steps. Hernandez kept beating on Morgan at ringside until the ref called for the DCO.

(5) Sting beat TNA World champion Jeff Hardy to win the TNA World Heavyweight Championship. Up until Jeff Hardy was in the ring, all that the fans knew was that Hardy would be defending his World title against a mystery opponent. Hardy came out to a loud crowd response, almost all of it positive. On the big screen, the “3/3/11” numbers were shown, followed by a lot of lightning, then Sting’s video and music hit, getting a big pop. Sting came out wearing a shiny, colorful new ring coat and new wrestling gear. As Sting walked down the ramp, a big technical glitch happened, as backstage video of some of the Knockouts was shown on the big screen for a few seconds. Sting looked in better shape than he’s looked in a year or so. Hardy and Sting had a 12-15-minute match that was about what you’d expect from the two of them, and Sting won clean after a couple of Scorpion Death Drops. Sting celebrated in the ring for a few minutes

[Metallo]

TNA IMPACT SPOILERS FOR NEXT TWO WEEKS, VICTORY ROAD PPV MAIN EVENT ANNOUNCED




Since I have to be in Charlotte for work tomorrow, I flew in a day early and went to TNA in Fayetteville, NC tonight. I forgot my phone in the car and security wouldn't let me go back to the car, so here's the results of the show. Sorry I couldn't do live.


The building looked to have about 1,500-3,000 there. Lots of military. The crowd was hot for the show, especially the Hardys, Hogan and Flair.

3/3 Taping:

*TNA President Dixie Carter came out but was stopped by Immortal. Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan announced they had won the court case and controlled the entire fate of TNA completely again. They had Dixie removed from the building. Fortune came out but couldn't stop it. It didn't seem to get over, especially since the crowd cheered Hogan.

*Beer Money beat Gunner & Murphy. Ink, Ink challenged Beer Money to a title match at the Victory Road PPV.

*In a bout where she would have had to retire if she lost, Velvet Sky beat Sarita.

*Robbie, Cookie and Angelina from Jersey Shore come out. Angelina ripped on JWow, challenging her to return to TNA and get a piece of her.

*Karen and Jeff Jarrett renew their vows. Orlando Jordan and Eric Young are in the wedding party. Kurt Angle attacked Jeff immediately and the cake was supposed to go in Karen's face but it seemed like they messed something up.

*Scott Steiner beat Rob Terry. Not good.

*Hernandez beat Matt Morgan via DQ.

*They played a 3/3/11 video as an Undertaker knockoff, leading to....

*Sting beat Jeff Hardy to win the TNA title in her return to the company. Huge pop for Sting's return. He looked better in the ring than he did during the last run. Sting wins with the Scorpion Death Drop.


3/10/11 Taping:

*Pope Dinero nailed Samoa Joe with a foreign object to score the pin.

*TNA Knockouts champion Madison Rayne cut a promo challenging any Knockout past or present to face her. Out comes Roxxi. Rayne defeats her. No one in NC seemed to know who Roxxi was. Mickie James made the save.

*Angelina from Jersey Shore, Sarita and Cookie defeated Velvet Sky, Winter and Angelina Love. Angelina was exactly what you would expect from someone working their first match.

*Ink Inc. defeated Generation Me. Beer Money did commentary.

*New TNA champion Sting comes out and cuts a promo, saying that it's no secret he had other offers, but he is loyal to TNA as they are his brand. He starts getting emotional and says that he respects Jeff Hardy but Hardy made the wrong choices. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff come out and they go back and forth on WCW and their past. Mr. Anderson comes out and demands his title rematch. Jeff Hardy comes out and says that if anyone is getting a rematch, it's him. This brings out RVD, who says that he wants his shot at the title. Hogan announces Sting vs. Jeff Hardy will be the main event of Victory Road. Hogan and Bischoff set up a tag team main event.

*Matt Hardy defeated AJ Styles in a good brawl. Ric Flair managed Hardy and this was North Carolina, so guess who the babyfaces were?

*TNA champion Sting and RVD defeated Jeff Hardy and Mr. Anderson. It was OK but the entire time, I kept thinking that it made no sense that any of these guys wanted to team with the other. The show was OK.





More detailed TNA IMPACT SPOILERS for 3/3/11



The Crown Coliseum was set up like TNA usually does with big arenas, with one-half blocked off by a big black curtain with the entrance stage in the middle. By the opening bell, the floor and lower level was almost completely full, so for TNA it was a big crowd, a couple thousand people at least. The crowd was loud, but not as loud as it felt like it could have been given the number of fans in the building.

Before and during the show, Jeremy Borash did the spiel he does at the house shows, promising backstage passes to the loudest fans.


Before the taping started, some footage from the February 24 Impact episode was shown; a bunch of Jeff & Karen Jarrett skits as they picked out wedding clothes and talked to a priest, and the first half of the three-way match between Angle, RVD, and Anderson.

Dixe Carter xame to the ring to speak to the fans. She said that the morning’s decision by the judge concerning who controls TNA didn’t go in her favor. Eric Bischoff and Immortal (Matt Hardy, Rob Terry, Gunner, and Murphy) came out to gloat, saying they are in total control of TNA now. Bischoff said he still thinks Dixie’s got a lot of balls, even though she is a woman in the man’s world of pro wrestling. Ric Flair came out next (to a babyface pop, since the show’s in N.C.) and said some stuff to Dixie, like that there was a Holiday Inn nearby where they could go.

Eric Bischoff then introduced the returning Hulk Hogan. He got more cheers than boos. Hogan rambled a little less than he usually does on TNA shows, talking about how he and Eric were 100 percent in control of the company now.

Next, Fortune came out and cut some decent promos (except for Kazarian, who just had a bad one-liner). When they tried to go into the ring to fight Immortal, TNA security stopped them.

(1) TNA tag champions Beer Money (Robert Roode & “Cowboy” James Storm) beat Gunner & Murphy to retain the TNA World Tag Team Titles. The match was even-steven until Beer Money took control in the last minute and won with a DWI.

After the match, Ink Inc. came out and Shannon Moore issued a challenge to Beer Money for a tag title match at Victory Road, which Storm and Roode accepted.

(2) Velvet Sky (w/Angelina Love) beat Sarita (w/Rosita) with a DDT. This was the match with the stipulation that if Velvet lost, she would quit TNA. During the match, Love and Rosita ended up in the ring fighting each other, so referee Earl Hebner sent them both to the back for the rest of the match. The action in this match wasn’t pretty, but the contest was short, at least.

After the match, Robbie E., Cookie, and Angelina Pivarnick from “Jersey Shore” came out to confront the Beautiful People. In the first of many slips of the night, Robbie E. fell on his butt as the Shore reached the bottom of the entrance ramp and Cookie was cutting a promo. It ended up a brawl, then Velvet issued a challenge for a six-woman tag match on the next week’s show.

Next was supposed to be the Jarrett vow renewal ceremony. A multi-tiered wedding cake was set up on the entrance stage. Eric Young and Orlando Jordan came out first, with Young as the ring bearer and Jordan (in a woman’s skirt) as the flower girl. Jeff Jarrett followed, but before he could make his way down the ramp, Kurt Angle attacked him from behind, slipping on the stage as he ran out. Angle beat on Jeff for 30 seconds, then Karen ran out and jumped on Kurt’s back to get him off of Jeff. Kurt ended up grabbing Karen and putting her face through the wedding cake.

(3) Scott Steiner beat “The Freak” Rob Terry with the Steiner Recliner. Steiner dominated most of the match, which only lasted a few minutes.

Around this time, Borash announced that the Jarrett ceremony would still take place tonight it ended up being the last thing filmed, so presumably it airs on March 10 instead of March 3 as advertised.

(4) Hernandez vs. Matt Morgan ended in a double count-out. During this match, someone I didn’t recognize joined Taz and Tenay on commentary. Morgan controlled the match until they ended up on the outside and Hernandez sent Morgan into the ring steps. Hernandez kept beating on Morgan at ringside until the ref called for the DCO.

(5) Sting beat TNA World champion Jeff Hardy to win the TNA World Heavyweight Championship. Up until Jeff Hardy was in the ring, all that the fans knew was that Hardy would be defending his World title against a mystery opponent. Hardy came out to a loud crowd response, almost all of it positive. On the big screen, the “3/3/11” numbers were shown, followed by a lot of lightning, then Sting’s video and music hit, getting a big pop. Sting came out wearing a shiny, colorful new ring coat and new wrestling gear. As Sting walked down the ramp, a big technical glitch happened, as backstage video of some of the Knockouts was shown on the big screen for a few seconds. Sting looked in better shape than he’s looked in a year or so. Hardy and Sting had a 12-15-minute match that was about what you’d expect from the two of them, and Sting won clean after a couple of Scorpion Death Drops. Sting celebrated in the ring for a few minutes



The stuff with Hogan and Dixie just sounds like ridiculously overcomplicated drama. I've actually enjoyed the fact that Hogan wasn't around.

Beer Money needs a new heel team to challenge. Ink Inc are ok but hardly what I would call on Beer Moneys level. They're just fodder. Its a lot better than WWE's tag division of two guys from Nexus and Koztino but TNA still needs to beef up their tag teams. Even if they just rehired Homicide and reformed LAX.

I bet Steiner vs Terry is going to be one UGLY looking match. Steiner can still impress sometimes but he's not good enough to hide how bad Terry is. The pose down thing made more sense than an actual match.

Velvets been trying hard lately and Sarita is as good as anyone in the ring so that should be a decent match. The Stip makes the ending pretty predictable though.

More Jersey Shore crap? Ugh. The expiration date on this garbage is way past. I could understand the initial attempt to get hype but by this point its old news.

The stuff with Angle and the Jarretts sounds horrible but I'll admit I want to see what Eric Young does. I don't know why but I find him funny when I shouldn't.

I am looking forward to the main event. Sad that it sounds so short though. Hardy and Sting should have went 20 minutes. I really didn't have high hopes for the in ring part but it sounds like the time off has done Sting some good physically.


Roxxis back? Awesome. Too bad its probably not full time.

I bet that Jersey Shore Angelina girl is as horrible in the ring as Jenna from Survivor was when she was in TNA.

I hope Gen Me develops more as a tag team cause they have potential.

How said is it that AJ has to job to Matt Hardy? I know its NC but come on thats bulls***.

The main event scene sounds like its going to be even more convoluted from here on out with RVD, Hardy, Anderson, and Sting fighting for the belt. That could easily turn out to be bad.

The main event Tag match sounds ok but I don't know why Anderson would team with Hardy and try hard. maybe they should turn him heel. I think he works better sas a heel.

Looking forward to the main events, tag matches, Dinero and knockout matches. Not looking forward to the the Jersey Shore stuff, Angle/Jarrett, Hogan/Dixie.

As usual it sounds like a mixed bag.

[chapin]

so the big shocking moment is the return of Sting? really? that's no surprise at all.
And they played a 3/3/11 video as an Undertaker knockoff? man, tna is really down the toilet sometimes.

[Metallo]

so the big shocking moment is the return of Sting? really? that's no surprise at all.
And they played a 3/3/11 video as an Undertaker knockoff? man, tna is really down the toilet sometimes.


Stings return is about as "shocking" as The Undertakers nine millionth return to WWE. It wasn't. WWE let themselves benefit from rampant speculation over a former TNA star so why shouldn't TNA get in on the act? WWE would have done the same thing and HAVE done the same thing in the past. The TNA video was MEANT to play off the reaction to WWE's video about one of THEIR long time stars

WWE's 2-21 video led people to think a TNA star was coming to WWE so why not? And the fact that the 2-21 videos were seen by some to be about Sting because they were supposedly SO similar to the Starrcade 97 promos doesn't that make them WCW knockoffs? For all we know WWE were intentionally inspired by the Starrcade videos and they knew some of the reactions people might have.

Blaming TNA for something but giving WWE a pass on the same thing is ridiculous. Those TNA videos are simply playing off the fact that people THOUGHT the WWE videos were about Sting despite very little concrete evidence. Thats the gag.

I don't think WWE set out with the intention of making those videos to convince people for sure that Sting was coming to WWE but WWE HAD to be aware of the hype after they aired. WWE never said they were about Sting. People just assumed. But WWE didn't deny it either and continued to let the hype for Sting build so people would keep talking about it.

When WWE were getting their @** kicked they did just as many videos playing off WCW and WCW did the same against WWE. Thats the business.

Is WWE sad because they continued to play off the hype for the debut a guy they didn't even have signed? They watch the internet. They know some people thought was Sting and were excited for it. Even Dave Lagana, one of WWE's own former writers was speculating on it being Sting.



Now here's something I WILL criticize TNA for

INTERESTING NOTE REGARDING LAST NIGHT'S IMPACT TAPING IN NORTH CAROLINA (SPOILER ALERT)

By Stuart Carapola (stu@pwinsider.com) on 2011-02-25 09:41:54

Regarding Sting defeating Jeff Hardy for the TNA World Title at last night's Impact taping in Fayetteville (http://pwinsider.com/article/55553/interesting-note-regarding-last-nights-impact-taping-in-north-carolina-spoiler-alert.html?p=1#), North Carolina, I discussed with Dave Scherer on the postgame show exactly where Sting might stand in terms of oldest people ever to win a World Title. Joshua Higham did a bit of research (http://pwinsider.com/article/55553/interesting-note-regarding-last-nights-impact-taping-in-north-carolina-spoiler-alert.html?p=1#)and was able to provide us with some interesting facts on the matter. At less than a month shy of 52 years of age, Sting is the fourth oldest man to ever win a World Title. The only people ahead of him are Nick Bockwinkel at 52, Terry Funk at 53, and Verne Gagne takes the top spot at 54.

He's technically the same age Ric Flair was when he won his last World Title at 51, but Sting is now several months older than Flair was at that point. He's also beaten out Hulk Hogan (winning his last title at age 48), as well as Lou Thesz and Jerry Lynn at 46.



Its early to say but with TNA's track record I don't have a lot of hope. Unless Sting ends up putting someone over good (like Hardy) I don't see the point in him holding ANY world title anymore, especially at his age. Even if he was younger he doesn't need a title anymore.

Its not really all that good a thing to be known as the fourth oldest world champion either. Out of all the guys older than Sting listed only Funks win came off looking good in ANY kind of way.

Gagne winning at his age in the company he owned was ridiculous. Not as ridiculous as Vince McMahon or Vince Russo as world champion but still stupid.

Bockwinkle was sort of the Flair of his day in that he could still compete at a pretty decent level despite being close to 50 but watching his later matches its obvious he should have been out of the world title scene about 4 years before he finally was. He should have put Hogan over. It was cool to see Hennig win the title from Bockwinkle but Nick was past his expiration date by the mid 80's.

I think the only reason he was in the title scene as late as he was was because they had to build a new star for him to put over after WWE raided the AWA talent. Verne needed someone he knew was good and that he could depend on (to deliver and not to leave for WWE) to be the champ until then so he went back to Bockwinkle.

Hogans last title win was pushing it and so was Flairs and Sting is now older than both of them were when they were last champions.

If the AWA and WCW showed us anything its that you can't keep going back to the well. At some point the title scene needs to push out the old bodies to make way for fresh stars. It does TNA no good to continue to put the belt on Sting unless its for something short term that benefits a younger man long term.

The same is true for WWE. Putting a title on HHH and Undertaker at this point is stupid. Undertakers last title reign really seemed to be pushing it to me because he was dealing with nagging injuries. Having him go over a younger roster did them no favors long term. He and HHH and Sting need to be in supporting roles from here on out.

[chapin]

Is it just me or RVD dosent wanna be there anymore? I mean the lastest matches of his are boring sometimes, I know time passes and nobody is getting younger but he looks like he is in another place when he's in the ring. Or maybe it's just me

[chapin]

Sting ends up putting someone over good (like Hardy) I don't see the point in him holding ANY world title anymore, especially at his age. Even if he was younger he doesn't need a title anymore.

Its not really all that good a thing to be known as the fourth oldest world champion either. Out of all the guys older than Sting listed only Funks win came off looking good in ANY kind of way.

I remember that one, it was epic

[Metallo]

Is it just me or RVD dosent wanna be there anymore? I mean the lastest matches of his are boring sometimes, I know time passes and nobody is getting younger but he looks like he is in another place when he's in the ring. Or maybe it's just me

Seems to me like RVD really doesn't have a fire in him as much as he used to to be wrestling ANYWHERE and hasn't in about 5 years. Even before he left WWE he admitted he was burnt out and after that he only took a few indie dates and called his own shots. If it wasn't right for him he didn't do them.

He's probably at a point in his life where wrestling is more a job and less something he's super passionate about like he used to be. I don't think anything is going to change that. Like you said he's not getting any younger. Considering his "off the clock activities" maybe he was a little out of it.

[chapin]

yeah i agree. I was a huge RVD fan but now I see his matches and they are awfull, not all of them some has a little excitement but overall its kinda sad

[Kaleb]

http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/2052182/slabriel-o.gif
never has a bromance like this been seen since the early days of DX (Rude era)

[Nightmare]

haha, what the heck

[chapin]

cool avatar Kaleb

[Kaleb]

Thanks, Hunter made it for me,oh that reminds me I didnt thank him yet.

[Nightmare]

Yeah, that avatar is pretty awesome.

[chapin]

I have a lot of post to do to get an avatar.. But I'm working my way up

[Kaleb]

yeah I remember my first avatar.

[Dr. Evil]

Stings return is about as "shocking" as The Undertakers nine millionth return to WWE. It wasn't. WWE let themselves benefit from rampant speculation over a former TNA star so why shouldn't TNA get in on the act? WWE would have done the same thing and HAVE done the same thing in the past. The TNA video was MEANT to play off the reaction to WWE's video about one of THEIR long time stars

WWE's 2-21 video led people to think a TNA star was coming to WWE so why not? And the fact that the 2-21 videos were seen by some to be about Sting because they were supposedly SO similar to the Starrcade 97 promos doesn't that make them WCW knockoffs? For all we know WWE were intentionally inspired by the Starrcade videos and they knew some of the reactions people might have.

Blaming TNA for something but giving WWE a pass on the same thing is ridiculous. Those TNA videos are simply playing off the fact that people THOUGHT the WWE videos were about Sting despite very little concrete evidence. Thats the gag.

I don't think WWE set out with the intention of making those videos to convince people for sure that Sting was coming to WWE but WWE HAD to be aware of the hype after they aired. WWE never said they were about Sting. People just assumed. But WWE didn't deny it either and continued to let the hype for Sting build so people would keep talking about it.

When WWE were getting their @** kicked they did just as many videos playing off WCW and WCW did the same against WWE. Thats the business.

Is WWE sad because they continued to play off the hype for the debut a guy they didn't even have signed? They watch the internet. They know some people thought was Sting and were excited for it. Even Dave Lagana, one of WWE's own former writers was speculating on it being Sting.



Now here's something I WILL criticize TNA for




Its early to say but with TNA's track record I don't have a lot of hope. Unless Sting ends up putting someone over good (like Hardy) I don't see the point in him holding ANY world title anymore, especially at his age. Even if he was younger he doesn't need a title anymore.

Its not really all that good a thing to be known as the fourth oldest world champion either. Out of all the guys older than Sting listed only Funks win came off looking good in ANY kind of way.

Gagne winning at his age in the company he owned was ridiculous. Not as ridiculous as Vince McMahon or Vince Russo as world champion but still stupid.

Bockwinkle was sort of the Flair of his day in that he could still compete at a pretty decent level despite being close to 50 but watching his later matches its obvious he should have been out of the world title scene about 4 years before he finally was. He should have put Hogan over. It was cool to see Hennig win the title from Bockwinkle but Nick was past his expiration date by the mid 80's.

I think the only reason he was in the title scene as late as he was was because they had to build a new star for him to put over after WWE raided the AWA talent. Verne needed someone he knew was good and that he could depend on (to deliver and not to leave for WWE) to be the champ until then so he went back to Bockwinkle.

Hogans last title win was pushing it and so was Flairs and Sting is now older than both of them were when they were last champions.

If the AWA and WCW showed us anything its that you can't keep going back to the well. At some point the title scene needs to push out the old bodies to make way for fresh stars. It does TNA no good to continue to put the belt on Sting unless its for something short term that benefits a younger man long term.

The same is true for WWE. Putting a title on HHH and Undertaker at this point is stupid. Undertakers last title reign really seemed to be pushing it to me because he was dealing with nagging injuries. Having him go over a younger roster did them no favors long term. He and HHH and Sting need to be in supporting roles from here on out.

Triple H is taking a more backstage role in the WWE. He's not likely to be in the title hunt anytime soon.

[LuisTX85]

Wrestling companies in general often copy other companies's ideas&stuff,But they usually do it in a subtle way......This 3311 video was straight up copy&paste But yet they still managed to be cheap as usual!!

I rarely call TNA truly pathetic,But in this case I must agree that they indeed are!.....I'm always mr.positive in everything in life and even with TNA I always focus on the positive side on every little thing But even I can't support the product anymore!

I'll be watching the next two episodes cause of Impact on the road which means actual wrestling crowd&now IZ building,But after that I think I'll be watching the shows by FB/Youtube highlights!

[Nightmare]

I have a lot of post to do to get an avatar.. But I'm working my way up

I thought you needed 300?

[BlackLantern]

it will be interesting to see how a 'fresh crowd' reacts to TNA

[Metallo]

Wrestling companies in general often copy other companies's ideas&stuff,But they usually do it in a subtle way......This 3311 video was straight up copy&paste But yet they still managed to be cheap as usual!!

I rarely call TNA truly pathetic,But in this case I must agree that they indeed are!.....I'm always mr.positive in everything in life and even with TNA I always focus on the positive side on every little thing But even I can't support the product anymore!

I'll be watching the next two episodes cause of Impact on the road which means actual wrestling crowd&now IZ building,But after that I think I'll be watching the shows by FB/Youtube highlights!

It was SUPPOSED to heavily remind you of the 2-21 video. That was the whole point. It wasn't supposed to be a subtle inspiration. It was their comment on the WWE 2-21 nonsense and their way of playing off it. They never would have been THAT blatant if they didn't WANT people to see what they were doing.

It was like when Gillberg came out with the sparklers in WWE. They made damn sure the hit you over the head with it.

TNA's 3-3 video reminds me more of the Starrcade 97 promo video than it does the WWE's 2-21 video except for the ending. The most blatantly similar thing to WWE's video is the smokey burning numbers that appear at the end. So most of the footage for the 3-3 video FOR STING copied another video...that was FOR Sting. And??? If anything most of what TNA did copied a WCW idea more than WWE except for the ending.

Starrcade '97 Promo
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TNA 3 3 11 Promo
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People were saying Sting was coming to WWE because of a video with a black clad trenchcoated figure was walking in darkness and rain....even though it turned out not to be about Sting. Does that mean WWE was ripping off a WCW idea? Personally I don't think so but if we're going to accuse TNA of ripping off WWE why not accuse WWE of ripping off an old WCW idea?



it will be interesting to see how a 'fresh crowd' reacts to TNA

I don't expect any major changes. It'll probably be less of the usual impact zone crap since its guaranteed to be all different people.

Not at many of the chants but I'm sure there will still be some of the usual changes. Like no matter were WWE goes we still get the stupid "What" chants.

[louiebling$]

:awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt8fXqstyoE

[Project862006]

anybody see the cody/rey/dusty segment from sd wow it was great

this feud has some steam behind it

[louiebling$]

anybody see the cody/rey/dusty segment from sd wow it was great

this feud has some steam behind it
Yep it was awesome to watch live :o

[Metallo]

:awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt8fXqstyoE


Ah yes I remember the Triple Cage

This was a terrible movie but I love the part at the 2:58 mark.
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And maybe the best version of Stings crow theme ever came from the movie. Very theatrical IMO.

Ready To Rumble Soundtrack Sting Theme
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[Kaleb]

I just dont see Rey putting cody over, if he couldnt do it to Ziggler last yr he wont do it to Rhodes this yr :(

[BlackLantern]

I just dont see Rey putting cody over, if he couldnt do it to Ziggler last yr he wont do it to Rhodes this yr :(

because Ziggler is trash....Cody actually has a future and Rey wants to work with him for 'Mania

[Kaleb]

because Ziggler is trash....Cody actually has a future and Rey wants to work with him for 'Mania

thats debatable, I guess if Rey requested to work with Rhodes at mania then there might be some hope.

[Metallo]

because Ziggler is trash....Cody actually has a future and Rey wants to work with him for 'Mania

Maybe Rey didn't feel Ziggler was ready at the time. Or he was hoping to work with someone else. Its hard to say just why Rey/Ziggler was dragged out so long.

I think Cody deserves to be put over by Rey but Cody has the type of heel persona that is perfect to work with Rey. Much like his old man he's taken a stupid idea and run with it.

[Project862006]

rey wont put over cody if it is gonna be mask vs mask like it seems

a match with rey putting mask on the line is the equivalent of taker's streak:awesome: