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KrypJonian
02-28-2011, 11:17 PM
Don't know if this is new news, I don't usually hang around here, but I couldn't believe my eyes when I read a preview for Thor: God of Thunder...

It says "In the movie and game universe, Thor and the rest of the Asgardians aren't actual gods, but rather an advanced alien race whose fantastic technology makes them appear godlike."

I guess that answers questions about tying gods in with the tech world of Iron Man?

What do you guys think about it?

Sorry if this is old news...
Ultimatehero
03-01-2011, 12:10 AM
Script (don't think it's that much of a spoiler):

That seemed to be in the leaked script, if I recall. But only in passing. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but it was that the universes have come together before rather than the whole alien / ufo / etc. bit. Didn't think it stated they weren't gods, just thought of as aliens in the old days (like really, really old "ancient astronaut" days)
KrypJonian
03-01-2011, 12:25 AM
I am a fan of the "ancient astronaut" theory...
Vartha
03-01-2011, 12:53 AM
Well it's not news really. Kenneth had said that the Asgardians are aliens and it does say in the trailers too that they came to earth and our Ancestors worshiped them as gods.
Tho they also say to THEM magic and science are one and them same, so, their tech is way different than ours. So in some ways they are like us yet still more evolved than us.
BigThor
03-01-2011, 02:15 AM
It's a bit wierd that I keep hearing that their tech makes them seem god like? What about their superhuman abilities? That doesn't make them eem god like?
Vartha
03-01-2011, 02:24 AM
what's new is the MAGIC and Technology mix. To me, why Magic has to be explained to be a type of Science that we humans just don't understand yet is new.
To me Magic has always been a form of NATURE's Science. Blending natural things to make something else we don't even think of and I won't be a bit surprised that's the road Marvel takes.
KrypJonian
03-01-2011, 02:32 AM
what's new is the MAGIC and Technology mix. To me, why Magic has to be explained to be a type of Science that we humans just don't understand yet is new.
To me Magic has always been a form of NATURE's Science. Blending natural things to make something else we don't even think of and I won't be a bit surprised that's the road Marvel takes.

Watch History Channel's "Ancient Aliens"... SciFi and religion meet in a ridiculously coincidental way...

And this is someone who was raised Mormon... makes the bible way more interesting...

Seems like they may be trying to please everyone and also tie up the seams between Iron Man, Hulk, and Captain America's "real life" technology aspect...

Having said that, I'd still like for my Norse gods to be gods and kick the sh** out of any aliens that roll through...
Vartha
03-01-2011, 02:38 AM
Watch History Channel's "Ancient Aliens"... SciFi and religion meet in a ridiculously coincidental way...

And this is someone who was raised Mormon... makes the bible way more interesting...

Seems like they may be trying to please everyone and also tie up the seams between Iron Man, Hulk, and Captain America's "real life" technology aspect...
heh If I had cable I would.
I have a close friend whose Morman (he did his mission in England and visited Stone henge), he actually gave me my favorite copy of Norse myth. lol
I've worked at Renaissance faires for years, watched the History Channel stuff and yeah I'm familiar with all that.

The Game, Too Human, comes very close to what Thor sounds like as well.
KrypJonian
03-01-2011, 03:23 AM
heh If I had cable I would.
I have a close friend whose Morman (he did his mission in England and visited Stone henge), he actually gave me my favorite copy of Norse myth. lol
I've worked at Renaissance faires for years, watched the History Channel stuff and yeah I'm familiar with all that.

The Game, Too Human, comes very close to what Thor sounds like as well.

Keep your eyes out for "Ancient Aliens"... It really makes you believe that god and all the angels are aliens in ancient history :woot:
WildcatNC
03-01-2011, 03:41 AM
Keep your eyes out for "Ancient Aliens"... It really makes you believe that god and all the angels are aliens in ancient history :woot:

Theres something to it. WAY to much to just be pure coincidence. While i'm not 100% on Ancient Aliens yet, i'm positive as I can be without being there, that "Atlantis" in some shape or form existed. Archeology has failed to provide much evidence, but Mythology and Anthropology gives us mountains of evidence, albeit much of it circumstantial.

I love ancient history, especially many of the "pseudo" areas of study :woot:
KrypJonian
03-01-2011, 04:10 AM
Theres something to it. WAY to much to just be pure coincidence. While i'm not 100% on Ancient Aliens yet, i'm positive as I can be without being there, that "Atlantis" in some shape or form existed. Archeology has failed to provide much evidence, but Mythology and Anthropology gives us mountains of evidence, albeit much of it circumstantial.

I love ancient history, especially many of the "pseudo" areas of study :woot:

Yeah dude, watch Ancient Aliens, and it will make you question everything everybody in the bible ever said...
WildcatNC
03-01-2011, 04:40 AM
Yeah dude, watch Ancient Aliens, and it will make you question everything everybody in the bible ever said...

Yea, i've seen them all. Done a TON of reading on it as well. Its one of my favorite things to learn about.
KrypJonian
03-01-2011, 04:46 AM
Certainly puts christianity in an interesting perspective, no? Why not the asgardians I guess?
Gamma Burst
03-01-2011, 05:21 AM
I don't have a problem with this. If we saw a bunch of immortal, incredibly poweful beings and on a level where magic and tech indistinguishable, they would appear pretty godlike to us.
BigThor
03-01-2011, 05:29 AM
Yeah I don't have a problem with that idea either SJ, it's a pretty reasonable concept.

It's just that they're making it sound like their tech is the only thing that makes them seem "god like". When in actuality, even without their tech they should still seem "god like" based on their superhuman attributes.
Gamma Burst
03-01-2011, 05:33 AM
I'm not worried, mate. The movie will show how truly badass (and godly) they are.
BigThor
03-01-2011, 05:37 AM
Yeah I'm not worried either, I was just wondering why they only stress the Asgardians tech superiority over humans and not their physical superiority.
KrypJonian
03-01-2011, 05:46 AM
Yeah I'm not worried either, I was just wondering why they only stress the Asgardians tech superiority over humans and not their physical superiority.

Not to argue with myself above, cause I'm really into the idea of ancient aliens and all that...

But f**k the alien idea for the Asgardians... They were created as gods and I'd like to see them preserved as such if they're gonna be based on this comic book...
KrypJonian
03-01-2011, 05:48 AM
Imagine if Superman was created as a god come down to protect humans... Then NOW they created the Krypton myth... it would sound stupid.... No?
BigThor
03-01-2011, 06:01 AM
^^^ I agree with both post, although I would be satisfied if they kept the status of Asgardians ambiguous. I would also accept the "extra dimensional/other worldly being" title, it just sounds much more distinguished than just "aliens".
KrypJonian
03-01-2011, 06:13 AM
Agreed 100%
BigThor
03-01-2011, 06:25 AM
Great :woot:
Gamma Burst
03-01-2011, 06:39 AM
But that's exactly what they are: an extra-dimensional race of godlike super beings. This 'alien' thing is just an easy, oversimplified way to state that. :)
Vartha
03-01-2011, 09:27 AM
Well the Alien Way also makes it easier to Explain the nine Worlds of the World ash as well. I can't wait to see how they approach Sutur and Hela. lol
TikkiEXX
03-01-2011, 11:37 AM
i read that issue, didnt sound like Game Informer had any inside information to me. sounds like they just assumed, or they have the same info we do.
WildcatNC
03-01-2011, 12:13 PM
^^^ I agree with both post, although I would be satisfied if they kept the status of Asgardians ambiguous. I would also accept the "extra dimensional/other worldly being" title, it just sounds much more distinguished than just "aliens".

I agree, and thats what I think we'll get.
GhostPoet
03-01-2011, 01:48 PM
I always assumed Thor was an alien anyway...considering I never read the comics :)
TheCorpulent1
03-01-2011, 06:35 PM
It's a stupid, stupid hoop the movie's writers have chosen to jump through, in my opinion. The Asgardians are gods, native to Earth and the very same beings from ancient myths. Anything else the movie claims, I fully intend to ignore.
Humphrey Bogart
03-01-2011, 07:09 PM
This is what we in the business call a cop out. Pure and simple. This is ridiculous and unnecessary. I'm actually surprised Marvel would be so ashamed (which is what seems to be at the heart of this) to allow the source material to shine through here.
BigThor
03-02-2011, 12:49 AM
Extra dimensionals beings is the closest term to the word "gods" that we're gonna possible get in the film. I think that's a pretty cool term because it lands in a happy mediums between gods and aliens.

I'm fine with that, as long as they don't use the word "aliens" to describe them.