View Full Version : What X-Men characters besides Wolverine should be in this?
Great Mind(s)
03-16-2011, 10:35 AM
:huh:
Omega Red? Silver Samurai? Anyone from First Class?
BoredGuy
03-16-2011, 01:19 PM
No Omega Red, he just doesn't fit this story
Definitely Silver Samurai, Yukio, Mariko, Lord Shingen, (maybe Viper) all of them no question...
And if there are any X-men cameos for fan service, either Sunfire, or mayyyybe a Kwannon/Psylocke reference would be cool
Great Mind(s)
03-16-2011, 05:40 PM
So you think it should be the Wolverine story about Yukio and Mariko?
Do you think they could include Yuriko too? Get Kelly Hu back into it.
Maybe I should have titled it..
Besides Wolverine, what other X-Men characters should appear?
Aw well...
def28
03-17-2011, 12:37 AM
No Omega Red, he just doesn't fit this story
Definitely Silver Samurai, Yukio, Mariko, Lord Shingen, (maybe Viper) all of them no question...
And if there are any X-men cameos for fan service, either Sunfire, or mayyyybe a Kwannon/Psylocke reference would be cool
Agreed, adding characters who dont belong in Japan would be pointless since there are already so many characters form the story arc. Dont want to add cameos just to please fans but I Would love to see Psylocke. Since this will only be a one shot I would rather they just merged the characters of Kwannon and Psylocke. No time for the mind swapping.
the a1ant
03-17-2011, 04:33 PM
Silver Samurai, pre Stryker Lady Deathstrike, Psylocke, Sunfire, and a totally random appearance from Storm, who never meets Wolverine and only appears in scenes with Psylocke. So random, but this is Fox.
Wolverine1988
03-17-2011, 04:42 PM
Silver Samurai, pre Stryker Lady Deathstrike, Psylocke, Sunfire, and a totally random appearance from Storm, who never meets Wolverine and only appears in scenes with Psylocke. So random, but this is Fox.
Well he doesn't reconize Deathstrike in x2, so unless he gets ANOTHER memory swipe, that would definetley throw a wrench into continuity.
Than again we don't know if the neq Director will keep this in canon with the films, but seeing is how Hugh Jackman will be Wolverine, i think it would be hard to distance its self from the other movies.
SymbioticToxin
03-18-2011, 09:27 PM
Silver Samurai, of course. But I'd like them to have Lady Deathstrike before she was enhanced with adamantium by Stryker.
Angamb
03-19-2011, 07:23 AM
no x-member, please!!
psylockolussus
03-22-2011, 04:19 AM
Silver Samurai or Omega Red for the Villain role
For an X-Men member (but not an X-member in the movie), I pick Sunfire.
Hellion
03-29-2011, 11:36 AM
Silver Samurai, of course. But I'd like them to have Lady Deathstrike before she was enhanced with adamantium by Stryker.
Ditto...maybe have Deathstrike leading a take on the Reavers...
I know the story is the Japan story...but I've always liked Bloodscream...
...I wouldn't mind Daken worked into the story somehow...
Siddean
04-30-2011, 09:49 AM
Quick cameo by Maverick would be fun. One of my favorite seldom used characters.
insane polaris
04-30-2011, 04:36 PM
Domino.
I'm Venom
06-02-2011, 11:18 PM
Sabretooth cameo hunting down Wolverine
Anno_Domini
06-04-2011, 12:05 PM
No Omega Red, he just doesn't fit this story
That doesn't stop FOX, lol.
I actually think Omega Red could work within some restraints...at least some with him following Wolverine(hunting him down for survivors of Project X maybe?).
Sabretooth I could actually go without...I want to see Wolverine deal with others besides the infamous Sabe...
....and, Silver Samurai, Sunfire, Domino and Storm would be sweet. I won't take The Wolverine into any kind of set continuity, so I want to see Storm.
Shpati
06-06-2011, 12:23 AM
I thought they could of included Omega Red in First Class since it had to do with America-Russia.
But now I definitely want to see him in a Wolverine movie. Thought it would of been in the first one though. Considering Red was a Russian symbol, and Wolverine and Striker's team were North American. Thought it would of made sense.
If they can fit him into this one, why not? But not as a main villain. I want him to encounter the true character's in Japan.
I doubt we will see Red in an X4, because there will probably never be one. So I am kind of desperate to see Red in a movie, and I will love to see him the new Wolverine.
Psylocke too. She sucked in X3, not even sure if that was her.
Red, in general, seems kind of hard to make in a movie, taking his powers into consideration.
But like I said, if they can do it right, why not?
jignat
06-15-2011, 09:38 PM
Silver samurai, Yukio, mariko,and shingen.
If they have to do a cameo, Yuriko -pre-adamantium or sunfire would be cool.
Superhero 101
06-27-2011, 06:29 PM
It would be awesome to See Omega Red it i know it sounds weird but he worked perfectly in The Wolverine Anime
Goldenage Batman
07-05-2011, 09:13 PM
Sunfire, Thunderbird, Silver Samurai, Viper, Lady Deathstrike, Domino, Mastermind, and Avalanche I would like to see any of them in it.
It would be awesome to See Omega Red it i know it sounds weird but he worked perfectly in The Wolverine Anime
They really should have found some way to use Omega Red at the end of Origins instead of Barakapool, but whatever, what's done is done.
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-05-2011, 11:19 PM
Agreed, adding characters who dont belong in Japan would be pointless since there are already so many characters form the story arc. Dont want to add cameos just to please fans but I Would love to see Psylocke. Since this will only be a one shot I would rather they just merged the characters of Kwannon and Psylocke. No time for the mind swapping.
I was a huge supporter of adding X-Men characters into X-Men Origins: Wolverine because I am an X-Men fan above a fan of any individual character, and since it was being treated as much as an X-Men prequel as it was a Wolverine solo story, it made sense to include Cyclops, Gambit, etc...
That said, The Wolverine isn't an X-Men prequel tale. It really is just a Wolverine solo story. And as such, I don't think there should be any X-Men characters in it. My knowledge of the Japan story is that it's a stand alone, graphic novel. As such, I think they should adapt the graphic novel pretty truly, and leave the fan service out. Service the fans by making a movie that is true to the story.
Supermanreturns
07-06-2011, 07:31 AM
I will love to see Lady Deathstrike pre-experiment. Yet again played by Kelly Hu.
psylockolussus
07-07-2011, 07:49 AM
Yeah I would like to see a cameo from Lady Deathstrike (pre-experiment).
def28
07-07-2011, 08:35 AM
Domino should be reserved for the Deadpool movie imo. Shed work the best that way Guns vs guns/Merc Vs Merc. Kwannon/Psylocke, Sunfire or Deathstrike could all work in Wolverine.
x-fan
07-07-2011, 10:19 PM
pick up the japan saga mini, IF they aren't in that, then they shouldn't be in the movie.
Goldenage Batman
07-08-2011, 05:18 PM
I'd like for Gambit to show back up and hand Logan his jacket back and say "Here man you left this in my plane awhile back.".
psylockolussus
07-09-2011, 01:09 AM
I wouldn't mind if Gambit became Wolverine's sidekick in the 2nd Wolverine movie.
merbass
07-09-2011, 03:04 AM
IMDB has Kelly Hu cast as Deathstrike. Is this only rumor or confirmed ?
Thebumwhowalks
07-09-2011, 05:26 AM
^ That sounds like some IMDB person has gotten confused about a character's name, there is a female martial artist ninja type called Yukio in the book and movie(I guess they are in the movie too), and DS's alter ego is called YuRiko, so they have assumed DS is appearing again.
merbass
07-10-2011, 01:36 AM
Shame if that's the case. Kelly would have been great. Perhaps they really want to distance the movie from the rest of the series. May be a cameo would do. I see room for Kelly to return in X4.
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-10-2011, 03:01 AM
Lady Deathstrike is dead, and also to my knowledge has nothing to do with the Wolverine Japan graphic novel. I really don't see how Lady Deathstrike can be brought back into the series in the future. And this is coming from a Lady Deathstrike fan.
merbass
07-10-2011, 09:25 AM
How do you know she's dead ? The Wolverine will take place before X-men Trilogy and all !
How did Gambit appear in XO ?
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-10-2011, 11:58 AM
How do you know she's dead ? The Wolverine will take place before X-men Trilogy and all !
How did Gambit appear in XO ?
Because I watched her die in X2.
As far as appearing in The Wolverine, she's not a part of that story, so there's no need to put her in there.
Gambit appeared in X-Men Origins: Wolverine because he was the most wanted character and never got a spot in the X-Men trilogy, and because they were combining the Weapon X story with an X-Men prequel story as well, so they found room to put in characters like Cyclops and Gambit and make them work.
The Wolverine isn't acting as a prequel tale to the X-Men trilogy, and is it's own stand alone spin off. With Lady Deathstrike not being a part of the graphic novel they are adapting, there's really no reason to put her into the story in the movie. Especially when them putting her in the movie as an attempt to connect it to the trilogy wouldn't work anyways because Logan had no knowledge of who she was in X2.
Hellion
07-10-2011, 12:31 PM
Been thinking, and I'm going to say, any character that's considered a Wolverine character...ally or foe, any character that's been integral to Wolverine and his history......I don't want X-Characters crammed in for the sake of trying to fill seats or please the fanboys......
...since the story is the Japan story, I'd hope it would stay faithful to the material as far as characters are concerned...but I doubt it, if characters are going to be crammed into this, let them be Wolverine-centric characters...
psylockolussus
07-11-2011, 03:53 AM
IMDB has Kelly Hu cast as Deathstrike. Is this only rumor or confirmed ?
Rumour duh! :awesome:
merbass
07-11-2011, 05:28 AM
Because I watched her die in X2.
The Wolverine isn't acting as a prequel tale to the X-Men trilogy, and is it's own stand alone spin off.
So Lady Deathstrike can make an appearance !
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-11-2011, 01:17 PM
But why would she when she's not a part of the story that they are telling?
Goldenage Batman
07-12-2011, 04:17 AM
Well if the moive is taking place in Japan it would just seem obvious that some Japanese XM characters would show up such Sunfire or Silver Samurai.
Cherry
07-12-2011, 03:03 PM
I'd like to see Sunfire make an appearance.
And isn't Silver Samurai a part of the mini-series this movie is based on?
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-12-2011, 04:45 PM
Well if the moive is taking place in Japan it would just seem obvious that some Japanese XM characters would show up such Sunfire or Silver Samurai.
Yes but the story that they are telling has plenty of Japanese characters to pull from, without needing to bring in a character that doesn't exist in the story they are adapting, nor would her appearance fit in with the continuity of the movie universe.
Kelly Hu says she's not in the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiHPxOTZ8Zg
It's too bad. I would've liked to have seen her in it.
Alexei Belyakov
07-20-2011, 04:09 PM
Kelly Hu says she's not in the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiHPxOTZ8Zg
It's too bad. I would've liked to have seen her in it.
Good. She has no place in this story.
The only supporting characters in this movie should be very human.
Silver Samurai is confirmed as the villain: http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/167959-sdcc-hugh-jackman-confirms-the-wolverine-villain
psylockolussus
07-22-2011, 03:05 AM
YAY! Another confirmed character!
I always wanted to see Silver Samurai since he was a part of the X-Men videogames that came out during the 90s.
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-22-2011, 12:26 PM
This movie should have:
Logan
Mariko
Yukio
Shingen
Noburu-Hideki
Asano Kimura
Silver Samurai
There's no need for any X-Men characters. Since it's not tying itself to the X-Men trilogy, then the wedding sequence at the end can be filled with non-X-Men characters.
If X-Men: The Last Stand kept the alternate ending with Logan leaving and going back to Canada, then The Wolverine could easily take place after the trilogy, and the X-Men could make cameos in Logan's wedding, but since it's taking place before the trilogy, and not directly attaching itself to the trilogy or X-Men Origins: Wolverine then there is no need for any X-Men characters.
marvelrobbins
07-22-2011, 02:31 PM
From the Leaked script details we besides Wolverine and The Silver Samuri we will be
getting
mariko
Shingen
Yukio
Viper
The Hand
psylockolussus
07-25-2011, 05:12 AM
From the Leaked script details we besides Wolverine and The Silver Samuri we will be
getting
mariko
Shingen
Yukio
Viper
The Hand
:oldrazz: The characters are like sooo uninteresting!
but it doesn't matter since its a Wolverine movie.
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-25-2011, 01:09 PM
:oldrazz: The characters are like sooo uninteresting!
but it doesn't matter since its a Wolverine movie.
Except for maybe Viper, those are the exact characters from the Wolverine run they are adapting into the movie.
A run that was written by Claremont, and it widely considered to be one of the better Wolverine runs out there.
Alexei Belyakov
07-25-2011, 02:51 PM
Unlike any previous movie featuring Wolverine, this is not [supposed to be] a sci-fi/action movie, but rather a crime-drama.
David Slade on the script by McQuarrie:
"The thing about Wolverine is I liked the script. Chris McQuarrie, who wrote The Usual Suspects had written a really good script. What was good about it was he had taken it out of the X-Men Universe. It was all in Japan, so it was more of an action drama ‘cause there were no other super heroes in it."
Wolverine is [supposed to be] the only superhuman character in this story. That's what makes it so interesting. If FOX starts adding mutant cameos and supporting roles, they'll pretty much confirm why I firmly believe Aronofsky left.
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-25-2011, 05:33 PM
Unlike any previous movie featuring Wolverine, this is not [supposed to be] a sci-fi/action movie, but rather a crime-drama.
David Slade on the script by McQuarrie:
"The thing about Wolverine is I liked the script. Chris McQuarrie, who wrote The Usual Suspects had written a really good script. What was good about it was he had taken it out of the X-Men Universe. It was all in Japan, so it was more of an action drama ‘cause there were no other super heroes in it."
Wolverine is [supposed to be] the only superhuman character in this story. That's what makes it so interesting. If FOX starts adding mutant cameos and supporting roles, they'll pretty much confirm why I firmly believe Aronofsky left.
And that description of the script is pretty much dead on what the run they are adapting is. Logan is the superhuman. The rest of the characters, not so much. And it's not even so much about Logan being a mutant, so much as it's about him heading down the path of honor, leaving his animalistic brutality behind.
Yes, the X-Men show up late in the run, as the run bleeds over into Uncanny X-Men, but even there they are mostly there as guests to Logan's wedding. Rogue does help him out in battle at the end, and Logan and Rogue share a moment that X-Men obviously adapted in that movie, but the run is not about superheroes, it's not about the X-Men, it's not about mutants, or sci fi. It's about one man's journey to find himself.
marvelrobbins
07-25-2011, 06:47 PM
The Silver samuri was not In the original Wolverine Mini Series.My feeling always has been that they looked at other Wolverine In Japan stories.
They are distanting themselves from X-Men Origins:Wolverine.Although there Is nothing to actully conterdict anything In Wolverine.This mostly takes place In Japan,and Is a more self contained story although it Is not a reboot of Wolverine as some would like It to be.Die hard X-Men fans can simply view it as Wolverine's time In Japan before the events of X-Men/X2(and The Last Stand If they want to still try after First Class of viewing It as part of film canon)
The Silver Samurai was In the leaked script details so the character was a part of the film when Aronofsky was attached.He Is likely In film to give Wolverine one more super powered opporent and because he's Shingen's son and Mariko's half brother.
For Die hard fans of the X-Men films The Wolverine shows how Logan goes from having no memory to finding his code that will Influence Who he Is In X-Men films.
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-25-2011, 07:02 PM
The Silver samuri was not In the original Wolverine Mini Series.My feeling always has been that they looked at other Wolverine In Japan stories.
They are distanting themselves from X-Men Origins:Wolverine.Although there Is nothing to actully conterdict anything In Wolverine.This mostly takes place In Japan,and Is a more self contained story although it Is not a reboot of Wolverine as some would like It to be.Die hard X-Men fans can simply view it as Wolverine's time In Japan before the events of X-Men/X2(and The Last Stand If they want to still try after First Class of viewing It as part of film canon)
The Silver Samurai was In the leaked script details so the character was a part of the film when Aronofsky was attached.He Is likely In film to give Wolverine one more super powered opporent and because he's Shingen's son and Mariko's half brother.
For Die hard fans of the X-Men films The Wolverine shows how Logan goes from having no memory to finding his code that will Influence Who he Is In X-Men films.
The Japan storyline that they are adapting is from Wolverine #1-4, and Uncanny X-Men #172-173, and yes, Silver Samurai is a part of that storyline. They fight Silver Samurai in Uncanny X-Men #172-173, and those issues are a direct continuation of the Wolverine mini-series.
The Wolverine will still be in continuity, it just simply is a storyline that doesn't connect to X-Men Origins: Wolverine, nor does it connect to X-Men / X2 / X-Men: The Last Stand (and why wouldn't the last one still be considered continuity? X-Men: First Class contradicted a whopping 10 seconds of footage from X-Men: The Last Stand. The connections are much stronger).
marvelrobbins
07-25-2011, 09:33 PM
They always said they were adapting the Wolverine Miniseries by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller.Nothing has been said about using Uncanny X-Men #172,173.I have always thought Christopher Mcquarre probally used other wolverine In Japan stories for Influences.I wouldn't be shocked If the much later story of mariko being posioned Is used as well as a source.Would give It a very tragic end.
All the X-Films are distancing themselves from X-Men Origins:Wolverine.X-Men Origins:Deadpool Is pulling a Superman Returns on Wolverine and from title and leaked script we know Deadpool Is still suspose to be part of the X-Men film series.
And a strong case can be made with X-Men First Class they are Ignoring The Last Stand.
And I f the discussed First Class sequels are made I don't see them sticking to how eather Last Stand or Wolverine Introduced Younger Cyclops and jean grey.However If the discussed X4/X5 are not made It will be up for fans to decide rather they want to view The Last Stand with First Class,possable sequels,The Wolverine,X-Men,X2,and Deadpool.
psylockolussus
07-26-2011, 04:59 AM
Steven Seagal for Silver Samurai!
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-26-2011, 01:41 PM
They always said they were adapting the Wolverine Miniseries by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller.Nothing has been said about using Uncanny X-Men #172,173.I have always thought Christopher Mcquarre probally used other wolverine In Japan stories for Influences.I wouldn't be shocked If the much later story of mariko being posioned Is used as well as a source.Would give It a very tragic end.
All the X-Films are distancing themselves from X-Men Origins:Wolverine.X-Men Origins:Deadpool Is pulling a Superman Returns on Wolverine and from title and leaked script we know Deadpool Is still suspose to be part of the X-Men film series.
And a strong case can be made with X-Men First Class they are Ignoring The Last Stand.
And I f the discussed First Class sequels are made I don't see them sticking to how eather Last Stand or Wolverine Introduced Younger Cyclops and jean grey.However If the discussed X4/X5 are not made It will be up for fans to decide rather they want to view The Last Stand with First Class,possable sequels,The Wolverine,X-Men,X2,and Deadpool.
172-173 are included in the trade paperback on the Claremont / Miller mini series the movie is adapting. They act as the conclusion to the story.
As for the other stuff, Deadpool has no bearing on me whether or not X-Men Origins: Wolverine is being discarded or not. Deadpool is far enough removed from X-Men that it can be seen as a separate universe. If Deadpool does indeed keep the X-Men Origins title, and blatantly contradicts the X-Men movies, i will treat it as a separate continuity from the X-Men movies.
And no, i dont see how a strong case can be made for First Class tossing X-Men 3 when it contradicts a barely 15 second sequence of Xavier walking, and nothing else about the narrative, but makes stronger connections, such as Beast being the one character from the trilogy being used as part of the team, when X-Men 3 depicts him as a former student from before the current team's time, and shows Raven as an orphan when X-Men 3 establishes that her family tried to kill her.
Even my brother who hates X-Men 3 and Wolverine feels like there's no rebooting involved with First Class. Its a movie that has some contradictions for the sake of telling a better story. The movie contradicts itself in order to cast the actors it needed to for the film. Some inconsistencies do not equal a reboot. Otherwise, X2 was a reboot of the original X-Men, and X-Men 3 was a reboot of X2, and the 2nd half of First Class was a reboot of the first half.
marvelrobbins
07-26-2011, 03:29 PM
172-173 were not Included In the trade paperback I got.
As for contunity considering Deadpool has the X-Men Origins In the title and the script has Collossus show up and reference made to Xavier.It clearly Is meant to be seen as part of the X-Men film world which means you are throwing X-Men Origins:Wolverine out the door.All other X films are distancing themselves from X-Men Origins:Wolverine.
As for X-Men the Last Stand a case can be made Bryan Singer pulled a SUperman Returns on The Last Stand.Ignore liberties with Dialogue and focus on what was seen
In Last Stand Moira Mactaggert has accent plus her age Is Inconsent with her appearance In First Class.
Beast turns catlike In First Class yet resembles more classic beast In Last Stand.Any X-Men fan could tell you Beast evolued from classic Blue and furry to Catlike Beast.
And then there Is the more obvious problem of Xavier being crippled In First Class causing a major contunity problem with end of Wolverine(well that we can Ignore because that film Is pretty much Ignored) and Begining of Last Stand plus First Class has Xavier and Magneto have their falling out In 1962 yet the beging of Last Stand has them working together.And this contunity problem will get even worse for a First Class sequel that Introduces Cyclops and Jean Grey.It's very unlikely after this they would make any attempt to fit with Wolverine's Introduction of Cyclops to Xavier or the begining of Last Stand's visit to Jean's house.
Silvermoth
07-27-2011, 06:04 AM
Chairman Kaga for Silver Samurai!
Nell2ThaIzzay
07-27-2011, 10:47 AM
172-173 were not Included In the trade paperback I got.
As for contunity considering Deadpool has the X-Men Origins In the title and the script has Collossus show up and reference made to Xavier.It clearly Is meant to be seen as part of the X-Men film world which means you are throwing X-Men Origins:Wolverine out the door.All other X films are distancing themselves from X-Men Origins:Wolverine.
As for X-Men the Last Stand a case can be made Bryan Singer pulled a SUperman Returns on The Last Stand.Ignore liberties with Dialogue and focus on what was seen
In Last Stand Moira Mactaggert has accent plus her age Is Inconsent with her appearance In First Class.
Beast turns catlike In First Class yet resembles more classic beast In Last Stand.Any X-Men fan could tell you Beast evolued from classic Blue and furry to Catlike Beast.
And then there Is the more obvious problem of Xavier being crippled In First Class causing a major contunity problem with end of Wolverine(well that we can Ignore because that film Is pretty much Ignored) and Begining of Last Stand plus First Class has Xavier and Magneto have their falling out In 1962 yet the beging of Last Stand has them working together.And this contunity problem will get even worse for a First Class sequel that Introduces Cyclops and Jean Grey.It's very unlikely after this they would make any attempt to fit with Wolverine's Introduction of Cyclops to Xavier or the begining of Last Stand's visit to Jean's house.
If all of that information about the Deadpool movie is correct, then I will consider Deadpool outside of the X-Men continuity, not X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
Moira McTaggert was barely a cameo in X-Men: The Last Stand, yet incredibly more comic book accurate than her depiction in X-Men: First Class. She is older in X-Men: The Last Stand, and is referenced as a former colleague of Xavier's, something she was in X-Men: First Class. If the age is a problem, then X-Men: First Class reboots itself, because in the opening Xavier scene, he and Raven are depicted as the same age, while through the rest of the movie Xavier is depicted as much older than Raven. It's called an inconsistency for telling a better story. Vaughn cast Jennifer Lawrence because she was the best for the role, despite her obvious age difference with James McAvoy. A slight discrepancy in age with a cameo appearance is not a reboot.
And there is nothing about the falling out in X-Men: First Class that says Xavier and Magneto are enemies. Simply friends and allies who's ideologies are now taking them down a separate path. Magneto's speech on the beach makes it pretty clear that he wants to work side by side with Xavier, and if we know anything about the comics, we know that the 2 will continue to work together at different points. It is still believable that they would work together again in the future, thus, them working together to recruit Jean Grey is just fine.
And if Beast's different appearance counts as a reboot, then X2's different Cerebro effects count as a reboot to X-Men.
The pro-reboot crowd is grasping at straws here.
Cagefighterkip
08-02-2011, 10:37 PM
Psylocke. That is all.
psylockolussus
08-04-2011, 08:35 AM
Psylocke should be in X4 not in a Wolverine-solo film!
Zelkar
08-05-2011, 03:15 PM
Dakken! but he won't because they already completely botched the story in Origins.
psylockolussus
08-08-2011, 01:39 AM
Dakken is too new to be in the movies.
Spider-ManHero12
08-08-2011, 10:43 AM
http://screenrant.com/wolverine-2-celia-reyes-charlie-kaufman-kevin-james-sandy-127178/
psylockolussus
08-09-2011, 04:18 AM
I doubt that.
Goldenage Batman
08-16-2011, 04:44 AM
Dakken is too new to be in the movies.
No I wouldn't say that. If a character is popular enough and the fans press hard for it Hollywood they could put the character in there. I mean he's been around for abut 4 or 5 yrs though I don't think we will be seeing Daken in this movie or even the next one. Plus they put the Hulk-Dogs in the Hulk movie and I don't think that they were introduced in the comics a few yrs before.
Goldenage Batman
08-16-2011, 04:50 AM
172-173 were not Included In the trade paperback I got.
As for contunity considering Deadpool has the X-Men Origins In the title and the script has Collossus show up and reference made to Xavier.It clearly Is meant to be seen as part of the X-Men film world which means you are throwing X-Men Origins:Wolverine out the door.All other X films are distancing themselves from X-Men Origins:Wolverine
As for X-Men the Last Stand a case can be made Bryan Singer pulled a SUperman Returns on The Last Stand.Ignore liberties with Dialogue and focus on what was seen
In Last Stand Moira Mactaggert has accent plus her age Is Inconsent with her appearance In First Class.
Beast turns catlike In First Class yet resembles more classic beast In Last Stand.Any X-Men fan could tell you Beast evolued from classic Blue and furry to Catlike Beast.
And then there Is the more obvious problem of Xavier being crippled In First Class causing a major contunity problem with end of Wolverine(well that we can Ignore because that film Is pretty much Ignored) and Begining of Last Stand plus First Class has Xavier and Magneto have their falling out In 1962 yet the beging of Last Stand has them working together.And this contunity problem will get even worse for a First Class sequel that Introduces Cyclops and Jean Grey.It's very unlikely after this they would make any attempt to fit with Wolverine's Introduction of Cyclops to Xavier or the begining of Last Stand's visit to Jean's house.
Well Bryan Singer did say that we should only count the first two X-Films into continuity with First Class. But yeah that just make things more confusing in the grand scheme of things.
November Rain
08-16-2011, 04:52 AM
I will love to see Lady Deathstrike pre-experiment. Yet again played by Kelly Hu.
she was such an underused resource
rayc1971
08-16-2011, 09:20 PM
silver samuri and lady deathstrike thats it
Hypestyle
08-18-2011, 05:37 PM
I'd want to see the Madripoor storyline- The Princess Bar: with Charlie Corrigan, Chief Tan, the Prince, Tyger Tiger, O'Donnell..
Goldenage Batman
08-25-2011, 05:14 AM
I know that The Hand was in Elektra but is there a chance that we could see them? Maybe SS being part of it or something?
November Rain
08-25-2011, 05:17 AM
I know a scene i would like to see in it.
it was the savage wolverine against elektra during the age of apocalypse act
with some reveleation that sometimes it's always harder to sheathe a sword than to draw it, and sometimes its harder than moving a mountain.
I think it's a very strong scene that shows wolverine struggling to deal with his beastly and humanity side.
but it doesn't necessarily have to be taught to him by her me thinks.
MrWolvers
08-26-2011, 09:36 AM
X23
Hawkingbird
08-27-2011, 06:18 AM
I like the thought of Silver Samurai. Would be awesomness.
I'm Venom
01-22-2012, 08:30 PM
Gambit is a character you really should pair with Wolverine because Gambit is the only character at this point that knows anything about Wolverine’s past that Wolverine knows about from their encounter after he lost his memory.
I could potentially see Gambit accompany Wolverine in Japan leading him to Silver Samurai, then have Gambit and Wolverine part ways. Played by Taylor Kitsch, they can pick up where Wolverine left off. Gambit has history with Yukio, so him showing up in Japan wouldn’t be far fetched.
psylockolussus
02-09-2012, 04:07 AM
I second that.
Taylor Kitsch is becoming a big name in the movie industry and him/Gambit being in the Wolverine movie again will definitely give the movie a boost in the box-office.
AVEITWITHJAMON
02-09-2012, 05:13 AM
^I wouldnt mind Gambit re-appearing at all, especially since X4 isnt happening any-time soon. Other than that Lady Deathstrike pre-experiment should be the only other X-Men character appearing.
Though I wouldnt mind a cameo by Sabretooth and Stryker were the latter gives the former a 'mutant enhancing' drug which would explain Sarbretooths more feral appearence in the first X-Men.
Cagefighterkip
02-09-2012, 06:44 PM
Psylocke should be in X4 not in a Wolverine-solo film!
Betsy Braddock has a lot of connections/past with the Hand in the comics, and her and Wolverine have been paired up and given time together plenty. It wouldn't be hard to work her story into Wolverine's story as well. In the comic history, Wolverine knows things about Psylocke's past as well (her time with the Hand). It could be a neat story, them helping the other about their own pasts. Just my 2 cents.
Cagefighterkip
02-09-2012, 06:46 PM
I know that The Hand was in Elektra but is there a chance that we could see them? Maybe SS being part of it or something?
20th Century Fox has rights to the Hand, so even though they were in Elektra, it's not impossible (quite the opposite) for them to show up in Wolverine. I think they were mentioned in the script reviews of the sequel if memory serves.
psylockolussus
02-13-2012, 11:25 PM
Betsy Braddock has a lot of connections/past with the Hand in the comics, and her and Wolverine have been paired up and given time together plenty. It wouldn't be hard to work her story into Wolverine's story as well. In the comic history, Wolverine knows things about Psylocke's past as well (her time with the Hand). It could be a neat story, them helping the other about their own pasts. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah you have a point
But Psylocke as a member of the X-Men would still be better.
def28
02-23-2012, 11:23 AM
But Psylocke as a member of the X-Men would still be better.
They would mess her up. Psylocke in an Uncanny X-Force movie would be the only way I could see them doing the character justice or having decent screen time. In an X Men flick she will just be thrown in with other random characters that have no realtionships in the comics together and do nothing. Shes the best choice for The Wolverine. Her connection to the hand/ Japan/Wolverine stories like others have said makes her fit alot more then other X men and Psylocke fighting Ninjas=awesome. She would actually have people to fight haha. With the way X4 and X-First class 2 have been set up I think The Wolverine is her best bet for some screen time and somewhat faithfull adaptation.
KidHolland8
02-24-2012, 08:18 PM
what year is this movie suppose to take place?
def28
02-25-2012, 04:25 AM
what year is this movie suppose to take place?
I would guess sometime before X1 or after Origins. But I dont think anything is confirmed. Guess they could have it after X3 if they wanted.
x-fan
02-25-2012, 01:44 PM
This movie is coming from a graphic novel, the material is already there, just shoot it and don't make unnecessary changes and add unneeded stuff, like characters and situations.
Alexei Belyakov
02-25-2012, 05:28 PM
This movie is coming from a graphic novel, the material is already there, just shoot it and don't make unnecessary changes and add unneeded stuff, like characters and situations.
This.
David Slade had confirmed that the only mutant in the script was Wolverine and that the tone was more of a crime-drama rather than sci-fi action.
I really hope FOX hasn't ruined that.
def28
02-25-2012, 07:51 PM
As long as the mutant/X-character would fit in the story and isnt being added just to satisfy the needs for mutants I could care less. I doubt we will get a 100% adaptation. None of the X Men films followed the comics exact. If The Wolverine is the changing point then thats awesome.
If they had to add X-Men, then Psylocke cause she has connecstions to the the characters in the story. I would pay a ****load of money to see her and Wolverine slicing up ninjas.
Thebumwhowalks
02-26-2012, 08:39 AM
20th Century Fox has rights to the Hand, so even though they were in Elektra, it's not impossible (quite the opposite) for them to show up in Wolverine. I think they were mentioned in the script reviews of the sequel if memory serves.
You must be having a brain fart, cause of course Fox make both the Daredevil/Elektra movies, and the X-Men/Wolverine films.
Come to think of it, that is real lucky, as of course the Hand plays pivotal roles in the lives of DD, Elektra and Wolverine.
I didn't know that Wolverine was supposed to be the only mutant in the script, and i haven't read the CC/FM book in over a decade, but wasn't Silver Samurai in the book? I was looking forward to seeing him in the film.
x-fan
02-26-2012, 12:03 PM
Maybe if we the fans push for a more accurate translation we will get it, but f we sell out and say yes give me someone as long as they fit the story then I guaranty that they will screw it up. Yes Silver Samurai is in the story so he should be in the movie
def28
02-26-2012, 02:37 PM
Isnt Storm, Nightcrawler and Rogue in the story? If its before X1 there not gonna touch any of those characters. Some things/characters will need to be changed. !00% adaptation is not gonna happen.
Ill sell out for Psylocke. Fine ass British/Asian telepathic ninja chicks is something every movie could use. :up:
Is there a script review online? Anyone have a link?
x-fan
02-26-2012, 11:46 PM
Isnt Storm, Nightcrawler and Rogue in the story? If its before X1 there not gonna touch any of those characters. Some things/characters will need to be changed. !00% adaptation is not gonna happen.
Ill sell out for Psylocke. Fine ass British/Asian telepathic ninja chicks is something every movie could use. :up:
Is there a script review online? Anyone have a link?
simple don't go past the 4 part mini, and you don't have to show the X-men.
Matt Mortem
02-27-2012, 08:03 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Sunfire. He'd fit and I always really liked the character.
Thebumwhowalks
02-28-2012, 12:00 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Sunfire. He'd fit and I always really liked the character.
He is Mariko's cousin, but I think his powers are a bit ott for this type of tale.
BoredGuy
02-28-2012, 12:58 PM
He is Mariko's cousin
hm, didn't know that
I'd say, knowing Fox, that all but assures he'll be in the movie
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