Captain America: News and Speculation V

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[R_Hythlodeus]

Is releasing a few 5 second clips in the wait for a trailer release really any different than releasing pictures in the wait for a trailer? I can understand not watching them, but is there really a reason to get angry about them? Or complain about them? Or act like they reflect a bad marketing campaign?

I don't get it.
it was a joke...

[Chewy]

it was a joke...
On your part, but not on everyone's part.

[Compi716]

Yay, a new thread.

[R_Hythlodeus]

And another thread with a very stupid title.
"IV -Part3"
Thread Manager, you have no style at all!

[The Infernal]

Wow. Those 6 second spots are real bad marketing from Marvel! Everyone and their goldfish now is excited about the trailer, which comes out in may, because Johnston clearly has problems getting good enough footage. (Hence the reshoots!!!!!!)


*hides and waits for the troll-trap to work*

Is releasing a few 5 second clips in the wait for a trailer release really any different than releasing pictures in the wait for a trailer? I can understand not watching them, but is there really a reason to get angry about them? Or complain about them? Or act like they reflect a bad marketing campaign?

I don't get it.

Be vewy, vewy quiet. We're hunting trolls. :oldrazz:

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8493/elmerfuddrabbitseason.jpg

[Spideyfan93]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_z13Zql2OIzw/TQuCzATSYpI/AAAAAAAAAjs/kcKWcJaCi-I/s1600/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-troll.png

[The Infernal]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_z13Zql2OIzw/TQuCzATSYpI/AAAAAAAAAjs/kcKWcJaCi-I/s1600/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-troll.png

Troll season! Noob season!




..... ok. I've had my fun. Back on topic.

[Kane52630]

Did someone say Troll Hunter?

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8848/trollhunterposter.jpg

[Spideyfan93]

What in God's name....

[Whiskey Tango]

That movie looks pretty awesome.

[R_Hythlodeus]

what have I started?

[Spider-Fan]

LOL! I love the posting of trollface :up:

Seriously, what is the big deal with the mini-clips? Marvel is just trying to build more hype, and IT IS WORKING! So, good marketing.

[Spideyfan93]

Thank God this guy has senior year high school and bball after to be distractions....otherwise I'd be shaking out of anticipation.

[R_Hythlodeus]

it's thursday already (in my timezone) WHERE IS THE TRAILER???

[BizarroAids]

You'll get it Friday then. It's release is for Thursday in the US.

[R_Hythlodeus]

You'll get it Friday then. It's release is for Thursday in the US.
Nevermind. Already saw it in the trailer thread and it looks great!!

[roach]

Trailer is up

[louiebling$]

ooo heeeeelllll yeeeaaaaaa :awesome::cap:

http://www.slashfilm.com/captain-america-trailer/

[louiebling$]

ooo heeeeelllll yeeeaaaaaa :awesome::cap:

http://www.slashfilm.com/captain-america-trailer/

[Blackman]

ands its pretty damn good

[meltdown28]

I just peed myself a little.

That was awesome!

[The Infernal]

"I think it works". :up:

[Spidey_62]

That was incredible. :cap::up:

[ElMariachi]

P3ALwKeSEYs&feature=related

[Khemik@L]

Is it just Me or does this shot look an awfully lot like Ed Norton's Hulk Out Face:

http://i56.tinypic.com/2c0ry9.jpg

I have a strong feeling this is one of the things that would connect this movie to the Hulk Movie. What do you guys think? Even the sound effect used is strikingly similar to the sound effect used when Banner Hulked out in TIH

[terry78]

Is it just Me or does this shot look an awfully lot like Ed Norton's Hulk Out Face:

http://i56.tinypic.com/2c0ry9.jpg

I have a strong feeling this is one of the things that would connect this movie to the Hulk Movie. What do you guys think? Even the sound effect used is strikingly similar to the sound effect used when Banner Hulked out in TIH

I think you have just found the newest pic for the meme generator.

[The Caped Knight]

ooo heeeeelllll yeeeaaaaaa :awesome::cap:

http://www.slashfilm.com/captain-america-trailer/

:cap: :applaud:applaud

[Killer Clown]

Trailer

480p
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/CaptainAmerica/CaptainAmerica_h264_480.mov

720p
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/CaptainAmerica/CaptainAmerica_h264_720.mov

1080p
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/CaptainAmerica/CaptainAmerica_h264_1080.mov

[Son of Coul]

Is it just Me or does this shot look an awfully lot like Ed Norton's Hulk Out Face:



Yeah! I thought exactly that too.

Thanks for the links, KC!

[bunk]

Love it! So glad they went with something that gives the audience an idea of what the movie is about rather than random money shots and one liners that leave people scratching their heads.

[Khemik@L]

Yeah! I thought exactly that too.

Thanks for the links, KC!

K Here is the comparison:

http://i56.tinypic.com/2w38hz7.jpg

What's Up with that??

[craigdbfan]

Just saw the trailer. It was awesome beyond words. :O

[Son of Coul]

K Here is the comparison:


What's Up with that??
I dunno, but it's actually kinda cool.

[BizarroAids]

I was kinda hoping his eyes would turn green.. jk.

That stood out a bit the first time I saw the trailer.

[meltdown28]

I think its a very Universal "im in excruciating pain" face for most people.

I know if im in that sort of pain, im not smiling about it

[steintym]

So many awesome moments. Everything looked pretty good.

[ironman29758]

K Here is the comparison:

http://i56.tinypic.com/2w38hz7.jpg

What's Up with that??

kind of reminds me of Ultimate Origins:
When Fury and Steve eyes glowed red, and Hulks out a little before calming down, but Bruce Banner tried a serum and hulks out with his eyes glows green for the first time

[Khemik@L]

We would definitely find out when we see the movie, but I have a feeling that it is somehow connector between both movies. I mean its very weird that they would put that shot in the trailer. Even the way he opens his eyes and the sound effect used when he opens his eyes are strikingly similar to TIH.

At the very least I believe its an Easter egg. Now thinking of it do you realize that every single Marvel movie to date is somehow present in this movie.

"Now Mr Stark" - Iron Man
Cosmic Cube - Thor
Serum - TIH

Heh go figure huh

[The Caped Knight]

We would definitely find out when we see the movie, but I have a feeling that it is somehow connector between both movies. I mean its very weird that they would put that shot in the trailer. Even the way he opens his eyes and the sound effect used when he opens his eyes are strikingly similar to TIH.

At the very least I believe its an Easter egg. Now thinking of it do you realize that every single Marvel movie to date is somehow present in this movie.

"Now Mr Stark" - Iron Man
Cosmic Cube - Thor
Serum - TIH

Heh go figure huh

That's basically the idea Marvel is attempting to do by establishing that these movies take place in the same universe .

[Kane52630]

Gifs by me

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[wobbly]

I think the easter egg connecting Cap with TIH is simply the serum. Blue in both films. Blonsky got injected with an unrefined unstable version (probably an earlier effort Erskine abandoned). Steve gets injected with the proper one with the chamber's Vita Rays (assuming they call them that) on top to stabilise the whole deal.

[Khemik@L]

I think the easter egg connecting Cap with TIH is simply the serum. Blue in both films. Blonsky got injected with an unrefined unstable version (probably an earlier effort Erskine abandoned). Steve gets injected with the proper one with the chamber's Vita Rays (assuming they call them that) on top to stabilise the whole deal.

Well that is kind of the point I'm making. If the serum is the connecting factor then why not have some similarities in the way the Serum affects the users

[Venom'sDad]

I guess Norman's Performance Enhancers is a connection to both films. Look, it no difference than when every used radioactive reason for heroes & villains gaining their powers in the 60's.

What else are they going to do?

[wobbly]

Well that is kind of the point I'm making. If the serum is the connecting factor then why not have some similarities in the way the Serum affects the users

Because Banner didn't take that serum or any derivative of Erskine's WW2 efforts. Whatever he took (which he was designing to make troops resistant to radiation and had no weapons application in mind) was all his own work.

[Khemik@L]

Because Banner didn't take that serum or any derivative of Erskine's WW2 efforts. Whatever he took (which he was designing to make troops resistant to radiation and had no weapons application in mind) was all his own work.

Yea Guess you're right. I was basing off something I read where Norton said something to the effect that the origin of Hulk in the movie was a mixture of the serum and gamma radiation but maybe I misread cause what you're saying would make more sense.

Still Find that shot weird though

[steintym]

Gifs by me

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Love the gifs. So cool to see some of that action in detail.

[Wolvieboy17]

That was a great trailer, purely because of how much it immediately made me care about Steve. It looks like they're really going to sell the character well and explain all his motivation.

[steintym]

That was a great trailer, purely because of how much it immediately made me care about Steve. It looks like they're really going to sell the character well and explain all his motivation.

Completely agree with you. I had the same feelings. It was only a trailer and already I was caring about Steve's story and what he's going through / will go through.

[wobbly]

Yea Guess you're right. I was basing off something I read where Norton said something to the effect that the origin of Hulk in the movie was a mixture of the serum and gamma radiation but maybe I misread cause what you're saying would make more sense.

Still Find that shot weird though

Well I can see where you were coming from as there's always gonna be some similarity in that they both go through a drastic physical change in a very short amount of time. Banner goes several degrees above and beyond what Steve does, but it's not hard to imagine suddenly growing muscle and bone mass would cause the same kind of initial expression on the subjects face (basically one of utter shock & pain) regardless of the scale or what created the change.

[Venom'sDad]

Steve does not revert back to his original self, however.

[louiebling$]

Gifs by me

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Ya could I get that last one as an Avvy?

[Kane52630]

Ya could I get that last one as an Avvy?

Already taken by BizAids :oldrazz:

[louiebling$]

Already taken by BizAids :oldrazz:
:csad:

[Mr. Earle]

So since i cant go back to all those pages of the previous news thread, can someone give me a summary of what we know?

[BizarroAids]

Already taken by BizAids :oldrazz:
:awesome:
You're the best, Kane!

:csad:

Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you always get the avvys I want. lol

[louiebling$]

:awesome:
You're the best, Kane!



Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you always get the avvys I want. lol
Lol yea didn't you want my current one aswell? lol...ill just wait till trailer #2 :o

[Silvermoth]

It was a pretty good trailer. The music was great. I like the General Patton reference. The movie needs more of that sort of thing. Wonder if Arnim Zola will be a bit of an Otis to Red Skull's Lex Luthor in this movie? He's always in the background behind him looking panicked.

[Danalys]

zola needs to be the counter point to erkstine as skull is to cap.

[Vartha]

ooo heeeeelllll yeeeaaaaaa :awesome::cap:

http://www.slashfilm.com/captain-america-trailer/
MAN that is SOOO COOL!

We have a download yet for the trailer?

[Whiskey Tango]

It was a pretty good trailer. The music was great. I like the General Patton reference. The movie needs more of that sort of thing. Wonder if Arnim Zola will be a bit of an Otis to Red Skull's Lex Luthor in this movie? He's always in the background behind him looking panicked.

'Zolaburg'?

It's a little bitty place.

ZOLABURG?!??

Okay, I vill just vipe it off, that's all. It's just a little town.

[roach]

'Zolaburg'?

It's a little bitty place.

ZOLABURG?!??

Okay, I vill just vipe it off, that's all. It's just a little town.

oooh ooh ooooh Mistah Hitla...i guess mah arm wasnt long enuff

[Crimson King]

MAN that is SOOO COOL!

We have a download yet for the trailer?

Here you go, Vartha:

480p
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/CaptainAmerica/CaptainAmerica_h264_480.mov

720p
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/CaptainAmerica/CaptainAmerica_h264_720.mov

1080p
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/CaptainAmerica/CaptainAmerica_h264_1080.mov

Thanks to user Killer Clown for providing the links (Page 17).

[RealIrOnMaN]

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/DSTMarvelSelRedSkull.jpg

[RealIrOnMaN]

The accessory of the Red Skull figure (http://www.earthsmightiest.com/images/gallerypictures/3150L.JPG)

[afan]

That's gotta be the piece of tech hardware in the trailer! Is there a name for it in the figure's description?

[RealIrOnMaN]

That's gotta be the piece of tech hardware in the trailer! Is there a name for it in the figure's description?
Sadly, no. Trying to find it.

[Whiskey Tango]

I betcha this is the device that siphons/harnesses/converts the Cosmic Cubes power.

edit: of course, there it is, right there in the picture that I looked at five times. :doh:

[RealIrOnMaN]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/spidermedia/21-25.jpg

[JAK®]

He actually looks like he could be Tony Stark's father.

[afan]

^Examining the captured mini sub maybe?

[RealIrOnMaN]

He actually looks like he could be Tony Stark's father.

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/5509/75816095.jpg

[JAK®]

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/5509/75816095.jpg
Yeah, he looks more like RDJ than the other two.

[The Infernal]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/spidermedia/21-25.jpg

I was a bit iffy when I heard he was announced, but he's managed to look the part. I'd only seen him on 'Nevermind the Buzz*****' and it was hard to think of him pulling that off. But it seems as though he has.

Here's Buzz***** in case anyone was wondering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmYGH5IhOwU

[RealIrOnMaN]

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4608/454i.jpg
According to Collider, there's some speculation, that members of the international press are watching 20 minutes of CAPTAIN AMERICA today (the opening of the movie).

[Spideyfan93]

Sweet!

[Dr Lee]

how do we become members of the press?

[RealIrOnMaN]

how do we become members of the press?
Lmao :D

[Hurm...]

F***ING S***! :cmad:


At least we'll get descriptions.

[The Infernal]

how do we become members of the press?

Tell them you're Lois Lane. :oldrazz:

[Dr Lee]

Tell them you're Lois Lane. :oldrazz:

A chubby, ginger goatee'd midget in a wheelchair? don't think that'll work LMAO!!!!

[roach]

A chubby, ginger goatee'd midget in a wheelchair? don't think that'll work LMAO!!!!

Tell 'em you'er Harry Knowles

[Dr Lee]

Tell 'em you'er Harry Knowles

That might work LOL

[The Infernal]

A chubby, ginger goatee'd midget in a wheelchair? don't think that'll work LMAO!!!!

Well there goes my second idea of going together and telling them we're Clark Kent and Peter Parker. lol

[Vartha]

That might work LOL
hahaha ouch hahaha

[Tony Stark]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/spidermedia/21-25.jpg

Hello Steve Rogers! My name is Howard Stark, and I would like to personally show you......MY ASS!!!!

[R_Hythlodeus]

It was a pretty good trailer. The music was great. I like the General Patton reference. The movie needs more of that sort of thing. Wonder if Arnim Zola will be a bit of an Otis to Red Skull's Lex Luthor in this movie? He's always in the background behind him looking panicked.

well, we definately haven't seen much Zola in the trailer. I wonder how big his role will be.

[BizarroAids]

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4608/454i.jpg

Cap fans should really look up that old book from the 70s. The cover has Cap holding his shield, and a gun. Very realistic art. Great read.

[Doctor Jones]

Love that picture of Howard. He definitely looks like Stark's father. That picture also really reminds me of Howard Hughes as well. They're playing that up a bit more here possibly.

[protocida]

Zola has a small role, from what I've heard.

[Chewy]

Heard from where?

[protocida]

From the sources that provide all the rumors that we've heard.

[BizarroAids]

Yeah I thought it was included in the plot summary as well. That's what I recall seeing that info.

[KalMart]

He actually looks like he could be Tony Stark's father.

Looks more like Howard Hughes than DiCaprio did, I'll give him that. ;)

[Rock Sexton]

Looks more like Howard Hughes than DiCaprio did, I'll give him that. ;)

Personally, I thought he looked a little "greasy" .... not that it's going to affect the movie for me or anything .....

[WildcatNC]

Personally, I thought he looked a little "greasy" .... not that it's going to affect the movie for me or anything .....


A lot of men had that "look" back then. I see what you mean but I think its accurate. Same as Peggy's overdone lipstick.

[XxDelta09xX]

The trailer was Awesome!!!

[Vartha]

Made 5 wallpapers from the trailer
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=347587

[Rock Sexton]

A lot of men had that "look" back then. I see what you mean but I think its accurate. Same as Peggy's overdone lipstick.

Haha ... well actually I'm a fan of the red lipstick, especially on lips like that.

http://www.awkwardturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jizz-in-my-pants.gif

[RealIrOnMaN]

Found the similarities between the recruitment/street scenes from the trailer with this comic: Captain America 70th Anniversary Special #1 (2009)

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/588/captainamericacomics70t.th.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/captainamericacomics70t.jpg/) http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/588/captainamericacomics70t.th.jpg (http://img607.imageshack.us/i/captainamericacomics70t.jpg/) http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/588/captainamericacomics70t.th.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/captainamericacomics70t.jpg/)

[captainrogers]

Found the similarities between the recruitment/street scenes from the trailer with this comic: Captain America 70th Anniversary Special #1 (2009)

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/588/captainamericacomics70t.th.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/captainamericacomics70t.jpg/) http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/588/captainamericacomics70t.th.jpg (http://img607.imageshack.us/i/captainamericacomics70t.jpg/) http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/588/captainamericacomics70t.th.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/captainamericacomics70t.jpg/)

That's where I thought that scene was inspired by. I love Marcos Martins art.

[Wolvieboy17]

So i'm guessing when we see Steve in line with the other soldiers, pre-serum, that those other soldiers are the other candidates for the serum. Lucky Steve got to go first huh?

[Crimson King]

So i'm guessing when we see Steve in line with the other soldiers, pre-serum, that those other soldiers are the other candidates for the serum. Lucky Steve got to go first huh?

I don't think so. I'm guessing that's the initial recruitment since he gets denied.

[RealIrOnMaN]

That's where I thought that scene was inspired by. I love Marcos Martins art.
Marcos Martin = perfect combination of Steve Ditko's & John Romita Sr's art! :awesome:

[Wolvieboy17]

No, I mean when he is in uniform being addressed by Chester Phillips with the other soldiers. Sorry, I should have been more specific.

[RealIrOnMaN]

No, I mean when he is in uniform being addressed by Chester Phillips with the other soldiers. Sorry, I should have been more specific.
Yes, Steve was the luckiest one. There's even a good comic about this situation with other candidates & pre-serum Steve's early days, that called Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty #1-4.

[Brian Braddock]

It was actually 'The Aventures of Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty', RIM (It may seem a bit pedantic to point that out but that's just bcause Cap's comic became known as 'Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty' for a time).

The Aventures of Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty was an absolutely excellent series; well it was up until the awesome Kevin Maguire was replaced but the mediocre Kevin West on art duty).

[Brian Braddock]

Oh, and incidentally - the way that Maguire drew Chester Phillips looks just like Tommy Lee Jones and he drew that in 1991.

Talk about being able to see the future!!!!

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/kyk.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/jjrj.jpg

[RealIrOnMaN]

It was actually 'The Aventures of Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty', RIM (Absolutely excellent series, well up until the awesome Kevin Maguire was replaced but the mediocre Kevin West on art duty).

It may seem a bit pedantic to point that but that's just bcause Cap's comic became known as 'Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty' for a time (I mostly remember it for Ron Garney's run)

The Aventures of Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty was an absolutely excellent series, well up until the awesome Kevin Maguire was replaced but the mediocre Kevin West on art duty).
Sure, Brian) I really liked the series! Heck, I even think, that Joe Johnston read "The Adventures of CA: SoL"
& it inspired him a lot. Even that chick from "The Adventures" looks like Peggy Carter (http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_428/subcat_97564/tsmithcapcindy2.jpg) (I hope she doesn't turn out to be a secret agent of the Red Skull, though).

[Spider-ManHero12]

July can't get here fast enough! After watching the trailer multiple times on the internet yesterday, did anybody catch it on SPike TV last night? I was surpised.

[Brian Braddock]

Sure, Brian) I really liked the series! Heck, I even think, that Joe Johnston read "The Adventures of CA: SoL"
& it inspired him a lot. Even that chick from "The Adventures" looks like Peggy Carter (http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_428/subcat_97564/tsmithcapcindy2.jpg) (I hope she doesn't turn out to be a secret agent of the Red Skull, though).


She does indeed - funnilly enough, I've got the series out right in front of me now.

[Microchip]

No, I mean when he is in uniform being addressed by Chester Phillips with the other soldiers. Sorry, I should have been more specific.
Yeah, I think that Albert Erksine (SP?) requests him personally though because he likes that he is weak but tenacious.

[The Infernal]

Yeah, I think that Albert Erksine (SP?) requests him personally though because he likes that he is weak but tenacious.

I think the film has to show the point that it is him who is chosen because there is something about him and not that he's just subject number so and so. It has to be about the fact that the man inside is what makes Captain America and not just the serum or the powers.

[Wolvieboy17]

Well if Erskine was involved with whatever experiment failed and made Red Skull, he probably recognises how much Steve is his polar opposite.

Also, in that comic posted above, is that Howard Stark in the snazzy suit?

[afan]

I think there will be a very strong emotional connection between Erskine and Rogers. That would give his death, and Rogers' ensuing pursuit of Kruger more dramatic punch.

[Iceman]

Oh, and incidentally - the way that Maguire drew Chester Phillips looks just like Tommy Lee Jones and he drew that in 1991.

Talk about being able to see the future!!!!
Yeah, Howard Stark too!!

[Crimson King]

No, I mean when he is in uniform being addressed by Chester Phillips with the other soldiers. Sorry, I should have been more specific.

Then, yes! I agree.

[BoredGuy]

it kinda sounds like Phillips said "HE will be blah blah blah..."

maybe Steve is the only one considered, and those soldiers are just being briefed on him..? just a theory.

[Son of Coul]

I just assumed Rogers has to go through training like anyone else before getting shredded, so they just wanted to brief the rest of those guys so they're not scratching their heads as to why a puny guy like him is there.

[afan]

I think the soldiers being addressed by Phillips are the candidates for the serum. Steve is simply the first to go; then he is the "one" because of Erskine's death.

[Nemi]

I think the film has to show the point that it is him who is chosen because there is something about him and not that he's just subject number so and so. It has to be about the fact that the man inside is what makes Captain America and not just the serum or the powers.

Def, from the trailer it seems like that is how it will be. I think this is something that can really make Captain America stand out. He's brave, honorable, strong willed and wants to help people BEFORE he gets super powers instead of after like others.

[Doctor Jones]

So I'm guessing the first 20 minutes of this film will be much of Pre Serum Steve. More of him living on the homefront and wanting to join, a scene with Bucky. Like the one in the trailer. Maybe the soldiers come back from their tour. Although I wouldn't mind the opening scene being that Norway castle sequence they showed at CC. Or that could be the second scene.

[Silvermoth]

Yeah, I think that Albert Erksine (SP?) requests him personally though because he likes that he is weak but tenacious.

Abraham Erskine.

[Hurm...]

Did they screen the first 20 minutes of Captain America already?

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I assume so.

[WildcatNC]

Haha ... well actually I'm a fan of the red lipstick, especially on lips like that.

http://www.awkwardturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jizz-in-my-pants.gif


No doubt man. :woot:


Atwell is a 10 in my book. Some may not think so but that body is stone cold KILLER and I think she's amazingly beautiful. Plus the accent?


:atp:

[Doctor Jones]

A woman with her looks and strength like her with an English accent as a plus is my ideal woman.

[Silvermoth]

I don't mean this in a confrontational way but I'm sort of interested to see what age most TFA:CA fanboys are? The movie seems to be very kid friendly, it'll be interesting to see how keen people are on it in relation to their age.

I'm 23 and I thought the trailer was alright but still not the best trailer I've ever seen. It still feels a bit safe. Maybe I'm just getting too old. I wonder if it's possible to grow out of comic books or comic book films?

[C. Lee]

I don't mean this in a confrontational way but I'm sort of interested to see what age most TFA:CA fanboys are? The movie seems to be very kid friendly, it'll be interesting to see how keen people are on it in relation to their age.

I'm 23 and I thought the trailer was alright but still not the best trailer I've ever seen. It still feels a bit safe. Maybe I'm just getting too old. I wonder if it's possible to grow out of comic books or comic book films?

I'll be 54 in June.....I still love comic books and comic book films.

[Son of Coul]

19 this year - film student, loved the **** out of it.

[Triad]

41 in July and I still live for this stuff! I'm married to a hot & understanding wife and am a dad to a next generation comic fanboy & fangirl!

[Wade Garrett]

I'm 22 and the trailer has me pumped to see this movie. I'm a bit biased though since cap's been one of my favorites ever since I got interested in comics. However, that being said, I think the Marvel movieverse is doing a fantastic job of making movies that target a larger audience. I feel the tone they're going for in all of these is perfect for the younger crowd to get them into the universe. Its modern enough and "cool" enough to get that middle demographic interested, and nostalgic and close enough to the source material to have the older crowd who grew up reading the comics. So far Iron Man, Hulk, and now Cap and Thor all give me this sense that these movies are generation spanning.

[captainrogers]

29, and pumped upon seeing the trailer.

[Son of Coul]

oh yeah if it helps I have a very attractive girlfriend as well

[Jesster32388]

Just turned 23, work in film and TV production/writer, run a podcast mostly dedicated to comics and I don't see me not loving this stuff ever :woot:

[JB-the-Hunter]

I'm 18 and I'm about to go to college. I'm majoring in videogame design... yeah be jealous :D

[Wolvieboy17]

Wait, when did this turn from telling our age into submitting our resumes?

[Hoblin]

I'm 32. Loved the trailer. It was as good as I hoped it would be and better than I expected it to be.

[craigdbfan]

20 and loving every moment of the trailer. :up:

[TikkiEXX]

33 here, loved every second of it

[Wolvieboy17]

Hi. I'm 24 years old and i'm an alcoholic.

[craigdbfan]

:lmao:

[Crimson King]

A/s/l

[HUMANIMAL]

i get 31 but i won't stop looking at the world through the eyes of a child...my inner child won't grow up!!!!!

[ultimatefan]

I´m 37, mildly alcoholic, big comic book fan and loving this stuff.

[Brian Braddock]

33 and old enough to remember the wilderness years were we either got these kind of movies but they were not very good or we flat didnt get these movies at all, so I appreciate every single one of them unlike some on here who just kind of come off as spoilt; dissecting and critiquing almost every aspect of these movies and saying how they could do better.

[terry78]

If it was any less safe it'd be rated R. It is a WW2 movie at its core.

[Doctor Jones]

This trailer kicks ass. I can't stop watching it.

[HUMANIMAL]

comicaholic

[Aesop Rocks]

I am a 25 year subscriber to both The New Yorker and Playboy magazine.

[roach]

38, film student, recovering comicaholic

[kedrell]

36, and while I've been a fan of the genre ever since Supes 1 came out, I've never really been a Cap fan. But I really enjoyed the trailer.

[WildcatNC]

33 and old enough to remember the wilderness years were we either got these kind of movies but they were not very good or we flat didnt get these movies at all, so I appreciate every single one of them unlike some on here who just kind of come off as spoilt; dissecting and critiquing almost every aspect of these movies and saying how they could do better.


I'm 32 and same here. I remember the original Thor in the Hulk tv movies.


I never thought we'd EVER get these kind of high production CBM's when the best I had ever seen were the original Superman movies, and the Hulk and Spiderman TV shows.

The first Attempts at Cap and the FF?? Ugh. Only made me SURE that we'd never see some of them.

Burtons Batman really came through, but there was a lull after that till Raimi and Singer came along and truly ushered in the Marvel boom.

Before Spiderman and X-Men it was a bleak outlook for sure.

[Wolvieboy17]

X-Men 2 was the film that really triggered my love of comics. It was a great mix of childhood nostalgia for the 90's Animated series and awesome adaptation and character portrayal. It firmly cemented my love of Wolverine, and I went out and bought every comic I could get my hands on, and i've been a Marvel man for life ever since. Thats why XMO:Wolverine hurts me that little bit extra.

[Axl Van Sixx]

24, English/journalism background, now working a facility management consulting job. Also, I'm a Marxist, which is always a funny thing when you're talking about Captain America. But I've always been a history buff and Cap is just a great character.

It's funny, yesterday I went to a reading group where we had to read an account (http://www.marxists.org/archive/cannon/works/1941/socialism/index.htm) of the 1941 "sedition" trial of the American Trotskyist James P. Cannon. A little background: Cannon's group, the Socialist Worker's Party, had been instrumental in organizing the Minneapolis Teamsters in the 30s. During the build-up to war in '41, the FBI raided the SWP offices and charged leading members with plotting the violent overthrow of the U.S. government. Cannon used the ensuing trial as a platform to propound the views of the American Trotskyist movement to a mass audience.

Whereas in the First World War, socialists had tended towards conscientious objector status, protesting the war, etc., the Second World War was different. The first war had also been a clash between rival imperialist powers, but the fascist element in World War II made the defeat of Hitler widely popular among the working class in America, Canada and around the world. Because American workers accepted the decision of the Roosevelt administration to go to war - illustrated by the utter lack of any mass anti-war sentiment - the SWP decided the times called for a new strategy. True Marxism - i.e. Trotskyism, not bureaucratic totalitarian Stalinism - is all about going with the majority. So the SWP adopted a policy of not resisting the draft. Members joined the army and tried to become exemplary soldiers, doing everything they technically had to, while spreading the ideas of Marx, Lenin and Trotsky among their fellow soldiers (in the same way that during peacetime they would join industrial unions and become exemplary workers).

The whole idea of the Trotskyists in World War II was that they didn't trust their own capitalist governments to wage a real war against Hitler and fascism. They knew that bourgeois democratic leaders in the West had supported Hitler when he first came to power. The Nazis were good for business, as Hitler persecuted the communists and destroyed the independent trade union movement. The Western powers turned against Hitler only when Nazi expansion threatened their own commercial monopolies. Trotskyists advocated a people's revolutionary war against fascism, where ordinary soldiers elected their officers, etc.

Anyway, I think that explains how a Canadian Marxist like me can still be such a big fan of a patriotic American character like Steve Rogers/Captain America. Cap has always stood not so much for the American government as for American ideals - freedom, equality, etc., which have always been core values of the American people despite the constant efforts of the government and Big Business to limit popular democracy. Steve is very much the Everyman, someone that anyone can relate to. And the Army gives him the SSS to fight Nazis, which is a worthy cause if I ever heard one.

[batman11]

I'm 67, I work on a potato farm, and my sexual orientation is bi-winning.

And I loved this trailer. Hope that helps the census. :up:

[The Infernal]

I'm 28. I love Red Dwarf, reading, movies, long walks in the park, barking at strangers and if you rub my tummy in a special way I'm a friend for life. :whatever:

[Whiskey Tango]

Name Og. Og hunt thunder lizards many winters. Have stick. Love trailer.

[kedrell]

The biggest question yet unanswered: Will Joe Simon have a cameo?

[R_Hythlodeus]

Probably not.

[co2]

I'm 32 and same here. I remember the original Thor in the Hulk tv movies.


I never thought we'd EVER get these kind of high production CBM's when the best I had ever seen were the original Superman movies, and the Hulk and Spiderman TV shows.

The first Attempts at Cap and the FF?? Ugh. Only made me SURE that we'd never see some of them.

Burtons Batman really came through, but there was a lull after that till Raimi and Singer came along and truly ushered in the Marvel boom.

Before Spiderman and X-Men it was a bleak outlook for sure.

I know what you speak of.
39, and still feeling the impact of my tiny self being blown away by seeing the Hulk on TV and Superman on the big screen. Through my teens, I could only fantasize that the stories I read in comics would be on the big screen. Sure Supes and Batman had at least a decent go at it, but I was a Marvel fan.
When I graduated high school, I spent the 90's away from comic related stuff because I thought I was too old for it. :whatever: Finally when Marvel got their "S" together and started bringing their characters to theaters a decade ago, it brought me back into comics.
Funny how things come full circle, because this is my most anticipated film of the year.

[Flint Marko]

The biggest question yet unanswered: Will Joe Simon have a cameo?
Joe Simon not having a role in this movie is a shame. I would geek out if he played the older version of someone that fought alongside cap in the war, and at the end of the film when cap was thawed out they had some screen time together. Gah I'm seeing it now, it'd just be perfect...

[UltimateJustin]

I have a question, will I like this movie?

[lixdexia]

I have a question, will I like this movie?
yes.

[The Infernal]

yes.

If he doesn't Disney will find him. They know where we all live. :wow:

[kedrell]

Joe Simon not having a role in this movie is a shame. I would geek out if he played the older version of someone that fought alongside cap in the war, and at the end of the film when cap was thawed out they had some screen time together. Gah I'm seeing it now, it'd just be perfect...

Well, as long as he's still around to finally see the film in theaters then I guess that's something at least. Stan Lee is great and all but I was always kind of saddened that Kirby never lived long enough to see the era when his co-creations became big hits on screen. Simon getting to finally see that Cap movie kind of makes up for that in a way.

[Iron_Stark]

34, love booze, women and comics. (Well not in that order)

[Venom'sDad]

If it was any less safe it'd be rated R. It is a WW2 movie at its core.

I agree

[BizarroAids]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/spideyman05/DMC11574.jpg

[Microchip]

Name Og. Og hunt thunder lizards many winters. Have stick. Love trailer.
Agreed Og, it is a fine trailer.

[UltimateJustin]

I like that Zack Snyder didn't direct this movie, it means it has a chance.

[Vartha]

I'll be 54 in June.....I still love comic books and comic book films.
heh I'm 4 years younger....I was born the year the Fantastic Four were Created. :D

[Wolvieboy17]

I like that Zack Snyder didn't direct this movie, it means it has a chance.

He didn't direct Transformers 2, X-Men Origins or Ghost Rider either, and those movies all turned out great.

[UltimateJustin]

He didn't direct Transformers 2, X-Men Origins or Ghost Rider either, and those movies all turned out great.
So add all future efforts from Bay, MSJ and that no name who directed Origins to the list of movies with no chance.

[Wolvieboy17]

Gaving 'No Name' Hood is a brilliant director. The fault with X-Men Origins lies with Fox, Lauren Schuler Donner and Richard Donner

[UltimateJustin]

Gaving 'No Name' Hood is a brilliant director. The fault with X-Men Origins lies with Fox, Lauren Schuler Donner and Richard Donner
In the words of the Suckerpunch thread, "in your opinion." All I ever knew Gavin Hood for before Origins was that dorky Iraq movie. I'll admit though no one could have made that script into a good movie. Hey, just let me hate Zack Snyder in peace, homez.

[Wolvieboy17]

Dorky Iraq movie? He did Tsotsi, a really brilliant movie set in South Africa.

Hey, you're free to hate Snyder in peace, just don't bring it into a completely different thread, with no context at all. Write a blog or something.

[Spider-ManHero12]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/spideyman05/DMC11574.jpg Nice. :up:

[craigdbfan]

Something neat about the trailer.

The first line we hear is completely true. That military physician who declines Roger did in a way "save" his life by indirectly instilling a purpose in a much desiring, truly good hearted man like Steve who then goes on to get recruited as a test subject for the super soldier serum.

I seriously can't wait for this movie. :up:

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Neither can I! Trust me, i've been waiting for a Captian America film adaption for a long time. A proper one, lol.

[craigdbfan]

Yeah man its going to be great. :highfive:

[Mercurius]

Something neat about the trailer.

The first line we hear is completely true. That military physician who declines Roger did in a way "save" his life by indirectly instilling a purpose in a much desiring, truly good hearted man like Steve who then goes on to get recruited as a test subject for the super soldier serum.

I seriously can't wait for this movie. :up:

There is no "good hearted" thing about the decision of enlisting in war: courage is the best quality involved (and only sometimes); maybe a prowess in combat that wants to prove itself (or any other misplaced desire to prove oneself), or even the lack of any other strong motivation in life.

The good hearted are those who do not believe in this kind of stuff.

[UltimateJustin]

Dorky Iraq movie? He did Tsotsi, a really brilliant movie set in South Africa.

Hey, you're free to hate Snyder in peace, just don't bring it into a completely different thread, with no context at all. Write a blog or something.
If I write a blog will you read it?

[Brian Braddock]

There is no "good hearted" thing about the decision of enlisting in war: courage is the best quality involved (and only sometimes); maybe a prowess in combat that wants to prove itself (or any other misplaced desire to prove oneself), or even the lack of any other strong motivation in life.

The good hearted are those who do not believe in this kind of stuff.

Disagree.

Many people enlisted because they simply felt that it was the right thing to do, because they felt it was their responsiblity to stand up and fight what they percieved as 'evil'.

Not because they wanted to prove they were courageous or good at combat. Find me anyone who enlists to fight in a war because they love to fight and I'll show you an idiot.

[roach]

I like that Zack Snyder didn't direct this movie, it means it has a chance.

raaaaaandom

[roach]

Disagree.

Many people enlisted because they simply felt that it was the right thing to do, because they felt it was their responsiblity to stand up and fight what they percieved as 'evil'.

Not because they wanted to prove they were courageous or good at combat. Find me anyone who enlists to fight in a war because they love to fight and I'll show you an idiot.

actually I knew people who joined up because they liked to fight and they werent idiots.
However looking at the scene where he is trying to enlist makes me believe this takes place right after Pearl Harbor....when men lined up to join up for the fight

[captainrogers]

Disagree.

Many people enlisted because they simply felt that it was the right thing to do, because they felt it was their responsiblity to stand up and fight what they percieved as 'evil'.

Not because they wanted to prove they were courageous or good at combat. Find me anyone who enlists to fight in a war because they love to fight and I'll show you an idiot.

This.
I did not enlist to "prove my courage" or show my "aptitude for combat".....

[roach]

This.
I did not enlist to "prove my courage" or show my "aptitude for combat".....

However I do know people who have. I knew a buy who went into the Marines and then became a Navy SEAL...to prove to his dad he could fight

[Mercurius]

Disagree.

Many people enlisted because they simply felt that it was the right thing to do, because they felt it was their responsiblity to stand up and fight what they percieved as 'evil'.

Not because they wanted to prove they were courageous or good at combat. Find me anyone who enlists to fight in a war because they love to fight and I'll show you an idiot.

You call it an idiot; perhaps one can call it so, but that's beyond my point: I was saying that, of the handful reasons one can summon up about enlisting, "good-hearted" is not one of them.

Fighting "evil" (whatever that means in the real world) shooting it in the face (or anywhere else) sounds pretty contradictory, not to say it clearly has nothing to do with "good-heartedness".

Again: not judging anything nor anybody, cause I really don't care about the morals involved, but words can't be twisted in a way they come to represent their opposite.

[Whiskey Tango]

Many people enlisted because they simply felt that it was the right thing to do, because they felt it was their responsiblity to stand up and fight what they percieved as 'evil'.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
- Edmund Burke

[terry78]

When it comes to the military you got people that join up for the benefits, those that join up because it's a tradition thing, those that join up because they want to take on whatever evil they see in the world, and those that just like to beat the **** out of people, kind of on the sociopath vibe.

[captainrogers]

You call it an idiot; perhaps one can call it so, but that's beyond my point: I was saying that, of the handful reasons one can summon up about enlisting, "good-hearted" is not one of them.

Fighting "evil" (whatever that means in the real world) shooting it in the face (or anywhere else) sounds pretty contradictory, not to say it clearly has nothing to do with "good-heartedness".

Again: not judging anything nor anybody, cause I really don't care about the morals involved, but words can't be twisted in a way they come to represent their opposite.

Again, I disagree. I feel I joined the military for "good hearted" reasons. Yes, many only join for "benifits" and to "prove their worth", but to say that there is NO good heartedness that goes into it is just something I cannot agree with. I had a job, was in college, and I signed up after events of 911, not out of some need to fight the terrorists, or revenge, but to better place myself into a position to defend my country and it's ideals. I don't and haven't agreed with much of the US's policies/decisions, but it's my country, and I know what it can be, however naive that may be, I'll step up and do my part to defend it and the people's right to say what they like about it, even if I disagree, just felt like I should put my opinion out.
I guess, that's why I can understand and relate to The character of Rogers and his decision to enlist. Yes, some went to "kill Nazis" or "kill terrorists" but others, like myself, went to defend our country.
That's my 2 cents.

[Wolvieboy17]

I would agree. A lot of people tend to forget that people actually believe in the causes of war. Sure it's highly political now, regarding Iraq or Afghanistan, and the lines are greyer, but back in WWII the entire world felt under threat, and it very much WOULD have felt like a right, honourable cause. I can see many people WOULD have thought it was the right thing to do, not out of any personal, selfish feelings of being a hero, purely because it was right.

[Mercurius]

Both of your posts above prove that it is way more complicated & convoluted than good hearted reasons.

[Wolvieboy17]

Maybe to an idiot :P

[Marx]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/spideyman05/DMC11574.jpg

Holy ****! :wow:

[Wolvieboy17]

The face could be better for that figure, but damn the body is nice. The paint job on the coat, not to mention the way it looks like it's moving a little. Awesome.

[Jackasscoley15]

Again, I disagree. I feel I joined the military for "good hearted" reasons. Yes, many only join for "benifits" and to "prove their worth", but to say that there is NO good heartedness that goes into it is just something I cannot agree with. I had a job, was in college, and I signed up after events of 911, not out of some need to fight the terrorists, or revenge, but to better place myself into a position to defend my country and it's ideals. I don't and haven't agreed with much of the US's policies/decisions, but it's my country, and I know what it can be, however naive that may be, I'll step up and do my part to defend it and the people's right to say what they like about it, even if I disagree, just felt like I should put my opinion out.
I guess, that's why I can understand and relate to The character of Rogers and his decision to enlist. Yes, some went to "kill Nazis" or "kill terrorists" but others, like myself, went to defend our country.
That's my 2 cents.

You stationed at Hurby? My dad just retired from there (we live in Navarre).

[RachelDawes]

There is no "good hearted" thing about the decision of enlisting in war: courage is the best quality involved (and only sometimes); maybe a prowess in combat that wants to prove itself (or any other misplaced desire to prove oneself), or even the lack of any other strong motivation in life.

The good hearted are those who do not believe in this kind of stuff.

So a good-hearted person would've just sat back and let the Nazis take over Europe and commit genocide?

[Mercurius]

Maybe to an idiot :P

In fact, idiots can't think so they start name calling. :oldrazz:

[Mercurius]

So a good-hearted person would've just sat back and let the Nazis take over Europe and commit genocide?

This isn't a thread in which we could fully discuss WWII, but I'd say that Europe and the USA have let Hitler do whatever he wanted before reacting against him, in a way that would prevent a war.

And then it was almost too late. And then many other interests got in the way. So that WWII is much more complicated (every war is) than a simple question of who is the decent, moral force. We should never forget economical interests, the balance of power, etc.

On the other hand, to answer your question directly, Miss Dawes, what I'm saying is that IF a good hearted person ever comes to join a war effort, either one of the two: a) he was enlisted against his will; b) he had to become something different from good hearted, because what will be asked of him is frequently the exact opposite of that.

So: my take is that the whole war thing is much more complicated than simply stating the ideals of protecting one's country and people, or doing good.

Usually, these emotional slogans are manipulative ways to get people into something that is completely different from what the slogans are calling them for.

[Wolvieboy17]

Merc, your post is disregarding our definition of a good hearted person by simply stating your definition, you give no reason as to why it isn't the way we define it. So why wouldn't a kind, strong hearted person want to join the war to do the right thing? If they felt innocent people all over the world were dying and wanted to do something to help out, why isn't that a)a legitimate motivation for someone good hearted to join a war b)The exact same thing as a and c)See, I can list things too.

[Mercurius]

Merc, your post is disregarding our definition of a good hearted person by simply stating your definition, you give no reason as to why it isn't the way we define it. So why wouldn't a kind, strong hearted person want to join the war to do the right thing? If they felt innocent people all over the world were dying and wanted to do something to help out, why isn't that a)a legitimate motivation for someone good hearted to join a war b)The exact same thing as a and c)See, I can list things too.

Yeah, you can list. I'm sort of amazed, myself. :wow:

But look, Wolvie: the answer to your questions is immediately above your last post.

[captainrogers]

You stationed at Hurby? My dad just retired from there (we live in Navarre).

Hey! I live in the area too! Congrats to your dad on his retirement!

[SuperSAINT]

Frosty from Collider tweeted this:-


FYI, I think I'll be seeing footage from CAPTAIN AMERICA, THOR and many other big 2011 movies tonight. Will post a recap soon after it ends

[captainrogers]

Frosty from Collider tweeted this:-
Sounds good! Keep us in the loop!

[captainrogers]

This isn't a thread in which we could fully discuss WWII, but I'd say that Europe and the USA have let Hitler do whatever he wanted before reacting against him, in a way that would prevent a war.

And then it was almost too late. And then many other interests got in the way. So that WWII is much more complicated (every war is) than a simple question of who is the decent, moral force. We should never forget economical interests, the balance of power, etc.

On the other hand, to answer your question directly, Miss Dawes, what I'm saying is that IF a good hearted person ever comes to join a war effort, either one of the two: a) he was enlisted against his will; b) he had to become something different from good hearted, because what will be asked of him is frequently the exact opposite of that.

So: my take is that the whole war thing is much more complicated than simply stating the ideals of protecting one's country and people, or doing good.

Usually, these emotional slogans are manipulative ways to get people into something that is completely different from what the slogans are calling them for.

So, tying this back to Cap, are you implying Steve Rogers Wasn't a good hearted person, or had good hearted intentions when trying and failing numerous times to enlist?
Retcons or not, that part of his comic history has pretty much remained constant: he WANTED to enlist into the armed forces.

[kedrell]

This arguement isn't going to go anywhere because different people have different definitions of what 'good hearted'* means.










*An extremely vague and useless term if ever I heard one.

[RealIrOnMaN]

http://spidermedia.ru/news/shest-novyh-kadrov-iz-filma-tor = 3 new set pictures in HQ

[RealIrOnMaN]

'Captain America' Writers Reveal Their Favorite Trailer Moments... And What You Might've Missed! = http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/03/28/captain-america-movie-trailer-commentary-writers/

[Compi716]

Okay, I need to know who skinny Steve is.

[BizarroAids]

I like how they stress over "Buckys suit is blue, theres a reason for that!"

[Compi716]

MARKUS: Like I said earlier, you forget about the bigger picture sometimes — you really do! The character is never named "Captain America" in the script. He's always "Steve." You think of him as Steve, and then he comes out in costume and it's like, "Oooooh, yeah!"
I hope to God this refers to the actual script and not that Steve is never actually assigned the name "Captain America" in the story.

[BizarroAids]

He'll have the name for the USO show. That's how he's going to be introduced.

[Blackman]

YOu know what I always pictured in my head? I always pictured Steve having a different voice pre serum then post serum. Thats probably the only thing that threw me off about the trailer

[BizarroAids]

YOu know what I always pictured in my head? I always pictured Steve having a different voice pre serum then post serum. Thats probably the only thing that threw me off about the trailer

Someone else mentioned that as well, I think it was Lixdexia.

But the thing that gets me, is how cheesy it would come off, going from high pitch and weak to strong and commanding.

Side note: One thing I would love to see; is a tracking shot of the shield taking out a few Hydra guys. Maybe an overhead view of the shield, in slow motion. Something was done similar to that in a Cap comic from the late 90's and it always stuck with me as a great visual.

[Blackman]

yeah the movie isnt missing anything by not having it. Its just always how I pictured it. Kind of like the Rorscach voice in Watchmen

[BizarroAids]

yeah the movie isnt missing anything by not having it. Its just always how I pictured it. Kind of like the Rorscach voice in Watchmen

Ah, I see what you mean. Totally respect that view as well.

I guess if they were going to do it, I would say have him more soft spoken, kinda like in a "I'm insecure" low tone. Almost anyone can take their voice to that level, and sound vulnerable. You get what I mean right?

[Raiden]

yeah the movie isnt missing anything by not having it. Its just always how I pictured it. Kind of like the Rorscach voice in Watchmen

Well, Rorscach wanted to keep his identity hidden, but Steve Rogers didn't need to because he's still a soldier before and after the experiment. He should be the same person from beginning to the end.

[Blackman]

Ah, I see what you mean. Totally respect that view as well.

I guess if they were going to do it, I would say have him more soft spoken, kinda like in a "I'm insecure" low tone. Almost anyone can take their voice to that level, and sound vulnerable. You get what I mean right?

yeah I get what youre saying

[Danalys]

i think his voice should change as his experience grows. that's the final part of his transformation.

[BizarroAids]

As his experience grows? Not sure I follow on what you mean.

[Danalys]

he matures quickly, becoming more authoritive in tone. war changes people.

[BizarroAids]

Oh ok. I follow now. Sorry, that threw me off for a second there.

[Compi716]

I was thinking about something today. We're all talking about how there seems to be a real level of earnestness in Evans' portrayal of Steve, some real heart. It got me wondering...there is no WAY I could see Ryan McPartlin delivering on the same level, nor any of those other "frontrunners" from way back when.

Just some cool food for thought.

[Doctor Jones]

Exactly what I was thinking when going over the trailer again and again. Can you honestly see Mark Valley doing all this?

[BizarroAids]

I didn't even see Valley as a possibility in my eyes. But I agree, I think Evans understands the heart behind the character better than the others. I really couldn't see John Krazinski pulling off both parts of the role.

[captainrogers]

Well, can't say I've seen much of Valleys work, I had some faith that if given the opportunity, John K. Could've pulled it off. But I'm glad, nay, thrilled, that, at least judging from interviews and the previews, Evans seems to be understanding and owning the role of Rogers.

[captainrogers]

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/Images/moviestills/c/captainamerica/52.jpg
Looking at this pic again, and forgive if it's been pointed out, is that a prosthetic body, with Evans head? Mayhaps his head is poking thru a hole in the machine and his actual body is hidden within the contraption. Thoughts?

[Rock Sexton]

I was thinking about something today. We're all talking about how there seems to be a real level of earnestness in Evans' portrayal of Steve, some real heart. It got me wondering...there is no WAY I could see Ryan McPartlin delivering on the same level, nor any of those other "frontrunners" from way back when.

Just some cool food for thought.

You could sense a real level of earnestness already?

LOL .... you guys crack me up.

[JB-the-Hunter]

You could sense a real level of earnestness already?

LOL .... you guys crack me up.
That's how good Evans is for the role. I even saw a level of earnestness in the set pictures.

[Rock Sexton]

That's how good Evans is for the role. I even saw a level of earnestness in the set pictures.

To each his own. I see the same face I see in all his other films, minus his wisecracker roles.

[Wolvieboy17]

You could sense a real level of earnestness already?

LOL .... you guys crack me up.

Maybe you should watch the trailer again?

[Wolvieboy17]

To each his own. I see the same face I see in all his other films, minus his wisecracker roles.

Thats probably because he still has the same face. Like, he's still physically the same person.

[Rock Sexton]

Maybe you should watch the trailer again?

I've watched it over 100 times already. In fact there's very little spoken by Steve. It's just a series of the same "serious" face he gives. Gonna need to see a lot more of the movie to tell whether or not he can portray Rogers effectively.

[Rock Sexton]

Thats probably because he still has the same face. Like, he's still physically the same person.

Not quite man. A little something called "expression" ....

[JB-the-Hunter]

whether or not he can portray Rogers effectively is not what anyone was talking about, we were talking about earnestness

[Compi716]

I've watched it over 100 times already. In fact there's very little spoken by Steve. It's just a series of the same "serious" face he gives. Gonna need to see a lot more of the movie to tell whether or not he can portray Rogers effectively.
It may be a combination of his performance as well as what how he carries himself in interviews. Evans has real respect for the character, and seems to be trying to encompass everything Captain America is. Christopher Reeve did the same thing with Superman - he understood the burden of the role, and took it upon himself to try and do helpful things in his personal life. It seems to me that Evans is at least trying to follow a similar path, and I think it translates to film.

[Wolvieboy17]

Eh, it's useless. I've yet to see Rock Sexton concede a point, even when he's misunderstood something.

Rock, that serious face Evans ONLY ever does? That IS earnest. Knowumsayin?

[KalMart]

whether or not he can portray Rogers effectively is not what anyone was talking about, we were talking about earnestness

I don't know about you....but when he delivers that line "...taller..."..




.....I believe him. :up:

[Lone]

I'm not a fan of Cap but I'll be seeing this because of Evans. I like what I see from him in the trailers so far.

Btw, if any of you guys watch Shameless, I think Tyler Jacob Moore who plays Officer Tony would've made a good Steve Rogers.

[Wolvieboy17]

No he wouldn't. You know why? Because Evans IS Steve Rogers. Maybe before casting was done, we all would have gone "Wow, he DOES look the part" but when I see Evans now I just see Cap.

Same with Hemsworth for Thor. Even when I see Alexander Skarsgard, knowing how perfect he would have been, for him I still see an actor, but when I watch the Thor trailer, I just see Thor.

[UltimateJustin]

No he wouldn't. You know why? Because Evans IS Steve Rogers. Maybe before casting was done, we all would have gone "Wow, he DOES look the part" but when I see Evans now I just see Cap.

Same with Hemsworth for Thor. Even when I see Alexander Skarsgard, knowing how perfect he would have been, for him I still see an actor, but when I watch the Thor trailer, I just see Thor.
No real complaints about the trailer, but I'm really starting to disbelieve that the 1940's looked like this:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/shocksyxx/batman.jpg

Although Batman TAS says it did, so it probably did.

[craigdbfan]

Hey if its taking any cues from Batman TAS in terms of art deco style then by all means go right ahead.

I love the look of the CA movie so far. Very bright filters and love the glow it has. :up:

[Wolvieboy17]

Also, isn't that at the Stark Expo? I can't imagine there being night time recruitments unless it was some special event.

Also, lets not forget this is Marvel's 1940's

[craigdbfan]

Yeah. Either way it isn't a bad thing it looked great.

[Mercurius]

So, tying this back to Cap, are you implying Steve Rogers Wasn't a good hearted person, or had good hearted intentions when trying and failing numerous times to enlist?
Retcons or not, that part of his comic history has pretty much remained constant: he WANTED to enlist into the armed forces.

Captain America is a fictional character that has been written in the 1940's as war propaganda: obviously, propaganda means you need to get people to have a huge empathy and a true emotional connection to the character, in order to make it succeed as propaganda.

But CA has been through a lot of different writing since.

In another thread I was talking about the reaction of a friend of mine, History professor, to the CA trailer: he compared it to Iron Man, in which the political complexities that we now know well were taken into account, and put the whole "weapons industrial" in dramatic perspective, transforming what was Vietnam war propaganda into a strong story about learning painfully the implications of destruction.

I was hoping the same sort of thing would be applied to the new Captain America flick: not saying he shouldn't enlist. I'm saying that they could have made him feel strong doubts and enlist after a difficult decision (and not coveting it like if it was his first night with a girl). And then show him abhorred by what war means, and not shooting mindlessly Robocop-like.

For me, Captain America's forte is just being pushed away to allow new war propaganda to rush in, at the expense of botching years of really elaborate experiences that have enriched our view of the character and made him a symbol that wields a shield, not a handgun.

[Silvermoth]

“We used ‘Raiders’ as a template when we were developing the story, but we sort of moved away from it as time went on,” Johnston said. “This is futurism in the 1940s; if you went to 1942 and thought of what the future would be, that’s what the approach was. The villain has a much more futuristic style and his science and his apparatus — he has a whole design motif that is beyond 1942 but it’s what you might have perceived as futuristic from a 1942 vantage point. So we went away from the ‘Raiders’ template in that sense but where we sort of stuck with it was in the structure and the action and the way the main characters are thrown into these situations and then have to get themselves out of them.”

"When you sit down to watch it, it’s certainly not ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark,’ which is a very different kind of film in the final analysis. But sometimes when we had questions and we were stuck we would say, ‘What would Indiana Jones do? What would be the answer to this in "Raiders of the Lost Ark"?’ I’ve always loved 'Raider' and the great achievement of it was the tone and the fresh feeling of the movie. It was period but didn’t feel like it was made in the period. It felt like a contemporary film about this period in the past, and that is the goal we have with ‘Captain America.’

And I can say this — it definitely has an Indiana Jones pace."

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4909/129376732751.jpg

The character is never named "Captain America" in the script. He's always "Steve."

OH COME ON! :cmad:

[I Am The Knight]

It's always: (Insert actor's name here) IS (insert comic book character's name here) .... Until they get recast a few years down the road and everyone realizes how much (Insert actor's name here) "sucked" as (insert comic book character's name here) once the reboot comes along.