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Mulholland '49
04-27-2011, 06:40 PM
IMO, i think Mystique ruins this shot. :(
It's because she's blue isn't it! Racist! :o
EnDz0n3
04-27-2011, 06:50 PM
It's because she's blue isn't it! Racist! :o
NO because she has lady parts, that's all.
Though judging from that pic, looks like a man in drag. LOL
Project862006
04-27-2011, 06:51 PM
dont see it personally lol
Marvin
04-27-2011, 06:56 PM
i really love the new costumes this was one of my favorite shots
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7342/vlcsnap2011042712h38m55.png
wonder what that business is behind them
this pic spits in the face of that comment in the first one about bright yellow spandex. These guys are pretty much all pulling off the cyclops costume and doing it with style..add some green and you got marvel girl.
chaseter
04-27-2011, 07:00 PM
What type of cheese is Mystique's favorite?
Mulholland '49
04-27-2011, 07:05 PM
wonder what that business is behind them
this pic spits in the face of that comment in the first one about bright yellow spandex. These guys are pretty much all pulling off the cyclops costume and doing it with style..add some green and you got marvel girl.
Looked like an X-Jet turbine.
Wolverine1988
04-27-2011, 07:15 PM
This movie looks ****ing amazing, looks like its going to blow every X-men movi out of the water.
Wolverine1988
04-27-2011, 07:17 PM
Also sounds like in regarding to the Hellfire club
Azazel probably won't have any dialogue, as well as Riptide and i wouldn't be suprised for the same with Emma Frost, just like with the bad guys in Singers films
protocida
04-27-2011, 07:26 PM
Doubtful.
insane polaris
04-27-2011, 07:42 PM
Also sounds like in regarding to the Hellfire club
Azazel probably won't have any dialogue, as well as Riptide and i wouldn't be suprised for the same with Emma Frost, just like with the bad guys in Singers films
Its already been said that Azazel speaks Russian. So I guess he has lines.
The Original Bamfer
04-27-2011, 07:52 PM
Also sounds like in regarding to the Hellfire club
Azazel probably won't have any dialogue, as well as Riptide and i wouldn't be suprised for the same with Emma Frost, just like with the bad guys in Singers films
Someone already mentioned Azazel being Russian, which means he'll probably speak. Unless Shaw's like, "hey, Russian demon guy!" :huh:
And January Jones taking a non-speaking role? That's ludicrous. No, wait, Emma Frost not speaking? That's ludicrous.
SuperT
04-27-2011, 07:53 PM
I highly doubt they hired January Jones to play Emma Frost only to have her not talk for an entire film. lol
jacobed
04-27-2011, 07:55 PM
That hole in Havok's suit just looks wierd when you look at it in that picture. It looks awesome when he shoots his beam from it but when he's standing there it looks like he has a hole in his chest.
SymbioticToxin
04-27-2011, 08:11 PM
That hole in Havok's suit just looks wierd when you look at it in that picture. It looks awesome when he shoots his beam from it but when he's standing there it looks like he has a hole in his chest.
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Kane52630
04-27-2011, 08:14 PM
That's ludicrous. No, wait, Emma Frost not speaking? That's ludicrous.
No, this is ludicrous. :o
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2328/ludacris.jpg
chaseter
04-27-2011, 08:15 PM
Gouda.
Colby jack:o
Sebastos
04-27-2011, 08:16 PM
X-tremely. X-cited. For the X-men!!
SymbioticToxin
04-27-2011, 08:17 PM
I have only one little problem: No love at all for Darwin.
chaseter
04-27-2011, 08:17 PM
Unless Shaw's like, "hey, Russian demon guy!" :huh:
Fan fiction!
SuperSoldier985
04-27-2011, 08:22 PM
I have only one little problem: No love at all for Darwin.
You want a 10 minute trailer? :p
SymbioticToxin
04-27-2011, 08:24 PM
You want a 10 minute trailer? :p
I wouldn't mind that :)
marvelrobbins
04-27-2011, 09:09 PM
In the International Trailer we can see who Michael Ironside Is playing.
It defently appears Magneto's break with Xavier happens when the US Government
decedes to wipe out the mutants In Cuba.
I am putting my money on Xavier being cripled when the blackbird crashes In Cuba.
They also are seriously hinting at Magneto In the brief shot of behind In magneto's more comic book fimilar outfit rescuring Emma frost from Captivity.
SuperSoldier985
04-27-2011, 09:36 PM
Ahh, so that was Ironside...
Didn't know he was in this beforehand...him and the dad from Twin Peaks. :p
mclay18
04-27-2011, 10:14 PM
If that movie's writing credits have in any way also carried over into First Class, then I think we'll definitely have nothing to worry about....of course, on top the awesomeness that already is Singer/Vaughn.
Stentz & Miller worked on the X-Men script with Jane Goldman & Vaughn in London during pre-production (and the latter two continued working after the first two left). And of course, they're all getting credited in the final film.
Except the guys who wrote the first drafts of FC. They at least deserved a "screen story" or "story by" credit. (I'm referring to Jamie Moss and Josh Schwartz, of course.)
Since Moss actually wrote the first draft, It's a bit sad he doesn't get credit. But Schwartz never worked on anything in regards to the movie that is being released in June. His draft was a completely different film, that just happened to have the same name.
Sawyer
04-27-2011, 10:19 PM
That little ginger is ruining these pictures. :o
By making them even more awesome? :huh::o
Sawyer
04-27-2011, 10:22 PM
:argh:
I mean just look at those faces. :atp:
Sawyer
04-27-2011, 10:25 PM
Is "those faces" supposed to be code for Fassypants or whatever it is you call him?
You cant pull the wool over my eyes...
I'm all about Banshee and Mystique today.
Sawyer
04-27-2011, 10:30 PM
Is Fassypants the right term, though? Or did I just come up with that little nugget of gold on my own?
You came up with a nugget of poop, yes.
Sawyer
04-27-2011, 10:36 PM
It's the best! :cmad:
The Original Bamfer
04-27-2011, 10:36 PM
I posted this in the International Trailer thread:
I love this trailer - it really gives the film a more worldly feel. And I'm also getting the idea from this trailer that our government is only using the X-Men to stop the war, and that when they've accomplished that mission, they're going to kill two birds with one stone and exterminate the mutant "problem" before it escalates... and this is what tears Erik and Xavier apart.
Wolverine1988
04-27-2011, 10:38 PM
I love the line Magneto gives about them not being kids anymore.
I think it makes the movie very interesting that the X-men are just teenagers almost and very raw with there powers and they are having to go up against the Hellfire Club which is older more experienced mutants.
The Original Bamfer
04-27-2011, 10:43 PM
I remember the 'Last Stand' days when everyone thought Mystique was ugly with her "bob" haircut in the early promos. 'Must be the hairdo.
Sweet Xstacy
04-27-2011, 10:44 PM
I posted this in the International Trailer thread:
"Mutants are collateral damage":csad:
craigdbfan
04-27-2011, 10:45 PM
I have to hand it to Magneto. He's actually right.
The US/CIA are being ****ed up in their agreement. Nothing new but still messed up nonetheless.
No wonder Magneto is so merciless in the Signer films against any form of government authority.
Loganbabe
04-27-2011, 10:45 PM
I am putting my money on Xavier being cripled when the blackbird crashes In Cuba.
No, in the international traileryou can see Xavier standing on the beach alongside the others, and the Blackbird had already crashed.
MikeFrost
04-27-2011, 10:46 PM
Amazingly executed trailer. Makes it feel Watchmenish in terms of setting.
Blader5489
04-27-2011, 11:34 PM
So any ideas on what this is?
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4457/vlcsnap2011042712h47m11.png
jacobed
04-28-2011, 12:26 AM
Ahhh, damn trailers I need to see me some Beast now.
Hellion
04-28-2011, 12:27 AM
Havok :) I'm happy ... hopefully we get some posters with Havok ...
The Original Bamfer
04-28-2011, 12:33 AM
So any ideas on what this is?
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4457/vlcsnap2011042712h47m11.png
I don't know for sure. We saw the sub radiate with a similar blue glow. And it's definitely the goods contained in the center of the mirrored room. I had a theory that Shaw and the Hellfire club did all the plotting between Russia and the United States to start the war, and that he and his mutants would hide safely in his sub while humanity destroyed itself. Perhaps these vials are filled with some sci-fi chemical creation that, when activated, makes his sub immune to nuclear warfare?
Gods be good, but First Class and Deathly Hallows trailers on the same day? What a day.
I've been semi-following First Class from lurkdom for a while now, and not seen much of anything to indicate that this won't be anything short of amazing. The posters were mediocre, to be sure, but predictably so, considering what studio is backing this movie, and that we have just them to be disappointed in is accomplishment enough.
As for the new footages, I'm loving what I'm seeing, especially all the vibrant colors, which just put to shame its predecessors that insisted on suppressing them wherever possible. It's all very refreshing, yet familiar. And I guess it'd be too much to ask for if I were to hope that Fox would restrain themselves in marketing, nay, whoring this movie. I never could resist spoiling myself silly when they didn't. Not that money shots longer matter, mind; so long as the final product is cohesive, as opposed to the hot messes its last two predecessors were, I'm happy.
So any ideas on what this is?
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4457/vlcsnap2011042712h47m11.png
Reminds me of the Liberty Island machine from X-Men.
X-Maniac
04-28-2011, 06:09 AM
1. love that there is finally an Xmen movie without wolverine hogging all the screen time going over the same character conflict again and again, and using his now done to death claws.
this feels so fresh.
2. I can't believe fox isn't showing us the jackman cameo in this, the final trailer.
(he does make a cameo, it actually makes sense story wise and even more importantly for fox, money wise) Without jackman this might appear like a cheaper movie to the general public.
I seriously, seriously hope a Wolverine cameo is NOT shoehorned into this movie. It would feel contrived and desperate.
J.Howlett
04-28-2011, 06:21 AM
Where in the trailer did they show the Wolverine cameo? Trust me, I've been watching this epic trailer non stop since yesterday and I didn't see anything to tip me off.
X-Maniac
04-28-2011, 06:27 AM
Where in the trailer did they show the Wolverine cameo? Trust me, I've been watching this epic trailer non stop since yesterday and I didn't see anything to tip me off.
They didn't, but the person to whom I was replying (go back and read what they said) is convinced that Wolverine will be the super-secret cameo that was mentioned in Empire magazine.
Marvin
04-28-2011, 06:32 AM
I seriously, seriously hope a Wolverine cameo is NOT shoehorned into this movie. It would feel contrived and desperate.
yea well when have fox not been either...
they've done a good keeping it a secret for now, but once screening start the "cat" will come leaping out of the bag. (it's not like they are forcing a cyclops cameo or something, some executive is convinced that this is a good logical idea). The only solace I can take is knowing that Vaughn has the mind to make it work.
Silvermoth
04-28-2011, 06:38 AM
I am putting my money on Xavier being cripled when the blackbird crashes In Cuba.
I have a feeling it won't be that quick. I would say a villian would have to be responsible, like Magneto doing it. Mystique is probably gasping because she's just survived a plane crash and she's just looking at the wreckage
Aaron Johnson is still my pick for Cyclops. Guy looks like him and is talented acting wise.
Indeed and I just have a feeling he and Nicholas Hoult (who plays Beast) will get along as famously as their comic book counterparts.
psylockolussus
04-28-2011, 06:40 AM
I hope there's no freaking Wolverine cameo
Like seriously!
chaseter
04-28-2011, 08:39 AM
Why would it be Wolverine? None of the X-Men knew who Wolverine was in X1 and Singer is following his own continuity.
What I would hope for is Sinister.
J.Howlett
04-28-2011, 08:41 AM
If this film is super badass, having Hugh Jackman show up for a small cameo is a absolute plus. It doesn't even matter because Logan's not shaping the events of this story.
So, I just don't see the problem with it.
Pfeiffer-Pfan
04-28-2011, 08:44 AM
Meh... maybe a hint to the character or something would be more beneficial, as opposed to a fully-fleged cameo.
The Morningstar
04-28-2011, 08:47 AM
So is there a new trailer then?
Sweet Xstacy
04-28-2011, 09:16 AM
So is there a new trailer then?b
Newer than yesterday?
Wefflehouse
04-28-2011, 09:50 AM
If this film is super badass, having Hugh Jackman show up for a small cameo is a absolute plus. It doesn't even matter because Logan's not shaping the events of this story.
So, I just don't see the problem with it.
The problem is that we really don't need Wolverine lifting his leg in every corner of the X-Men fanchise. We all know he's out there and really old and so very very awesome, but there is absolutely no need for the slightest cameo of Logan unless it serves the story...which it won't.
Wolverine1988
04-28-2011, 09:53 AM
Matthew Vaughn seems to be in charge, and i don't think he would shoe horn a Wolverine cameo or mention into the movie.
Though i think some kind of mention or hint would be cool
chaseter
04-28-2011, 10:05 AM
Heck...a Brian Cox cameo talking about how he is going to use mutants as a weapon against other mutants if humans cannot destroy them would be badass.
Loganbabe
04-28-2011, 10:16 AM
Mystique is probably gasping because she's just survived a plane crash and she's just looking at the wreckage
I think she gasps because she sees the missiles coming their way...
jaymes_e06
04-28-2011, 10:16 AM
Okay just watched the new trailer and damn I'm blown away! There are actually two new ones. Watched both.
Anyway what's this about Wolverine being in First Class? Sounds like Fox trying yet again to force that dude down our throughts. Is he the best and most important X-Man? No so why do they feel the need to always put him in the forefront. Pathetic. I hope it's just a rumor.
I love how people haven't even seen the film yet, but know beyond a reasonable doubt that certain cameos would be forced or contrived.
I thought Rebecca Romijn was suppose to be the "Super Secret" cameo ?
SuperSoldier985
04-28-2011, 10:57 AM
A Danny Huston cameo as Stryker might be interesting...
Nokio
04-28-2011, 11:40 AM
I think she gasps because she sees the missiles coming their way...
I think she gasps cause either Darwin is killed or Xavier is just crippled or Mags violently kills Shaw.
X-Maniac
04-28-2011, 11:56 AM
I love how people haven't even seen the film yet, but know beyond a reasonable doubt that certain cameos would be forced or contrived.
The very idea of him being in there feels forced and contrived, like Fox execs fear they need to put their cash cow in there somewhere.
Can't we go on the Wolverine-free diet for just one film?
Spider-Fan83
04-28-2011, 12:17 PM
Reminds me of the Liberty Island machine from X-Men.
that was actually my first thought, too
... maybe this is where, Magneto, got the idea for his lol
chaseter
04-28-2011, 12:36 PM
A Danny Huston cameo as Stryker might be interesting...
No. That would imply people thought Wolverine was a good movie.
squeekness
04-28-2011, 12:49 PM
I love how people haven't even seen the film yet, but know beyond a reasonable doubt that certain cameos would be forced or contrived.You should be used to this by now, lol. It happens every damn time.
Donut
04-28-2011, 01:02 PM
Wolverine shows up at the end. Along with Alfonso Ribeiro. Them them & the cast randomly dances to Its Not Unusual. Carlton Banks style during the credits
protocida
04-28-2011, 01:28 PM
So any ideas on what this is?
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4457/vlcsnap2011042712h47m11.png
I think it is the mutant serum from X-Men Origins: Magneto.
AVEITWITHJAMON
04-28-2011, 01:48 PM
If this film is super badass, having Hugh Jackman show up for a small cameo is a absolute plus. It doesn't even matter because Logan's not shaping the events of this story.
So, I just don't see the problem with it.
I honestly wouldnt mind it, if its a quick throw-away thing and doesnt effect the story, it would just be a nice little nugget for fans.
A Danny Huston cameo as Stryker might be interesting...
I wouldnt mind that either.
Sweet Xstacy
04-28-2011, 02:03 PM
I hope it's Storm in the Cameo.
SuperSoldier985
04-28-2011, 02:09 PM
I hope it's Storm in the Cameo.
I bet the fan outcry is overwhelmingly Cyclops biased, so, any mention of Scott Summers would probably go a long way too!
Sweet Xstacy
04-28-2011, 02:13 PM
I bet the fan outcry is overwhelmingly Cyclops biased, so, any mention of Scott Summers would probably go a long way too!
I'd like to see Gambit before Cyclops.
Deaths Head II
04-28-2011, 02:53 PM
We've had 4 films of Cyclops cameos. I'd rather they actually give him an actual role for once or just leave him out of it.
I would prefer not to see anyone from X-Men Origins: Wolverine make a cameo, especially since they seem to be ignoring it for the most part.
We've had 4 films of Cyclops cameos. I'd rather they actually give him an actual role for once or just leave him out of it.
:bow:
SuperSoldier985
04-28-2011, 03:12 PM
We've had 4 films of Cyclops cameos. I'd rather they actually give him an actual role for once or just leave him out of it.
Don't even go there.
Marvin
04-28-2011, 03:17 PM
We've had 4 films of Cyclops cameos. I'd rather they actually give him an actual role for once or just leave him out of it.
:bow:
wasn't it rumored...
Earlier this week it was reported here at Cbm that fans could be in for a surprise cameo in Mathew Vaughn's upcoming X-Men First Class. It was also reported that Michael Ironside (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000461/) would appear in the film in an undisclosed role. Now, a source close to the project is claiming that the cameo is none other than an aging and dying Cable and that Micheal Ironside is actually set to portray him. The source also reports that Cable jumps back in time to warn Charles Xavier about an anomaly in the timeline that only Prof X has the ability to prevent. Apparently something has happened that effectively changed the future. This raises the possibility that all previous X films take place in an "alternate reality" effectively opening the door for Fox to go in almost any direction they choose for future X films
wasn't it rumored...
Earlier this week it was reported here at Cbm that fans could be in for a surprise cameo in Mathew Vaughn's upcoming X-Men First Class. It was also reported that Michael Ironside (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000461/) would appear in the film in an undisclosed role. Now, a source close to the project is claiming that the cameo is none other than an aging and dying Cable and that Micheal Ironside is actually set to portray him. The source also reports that Cable jumps back in time to warn Charles Xavier about an anomaly in the timeline that only Prof X has the ability to prevent. Apparently something has happened that effectively changed the future. This raises the possibility that all previous X films take place in an "alternate reality" effectively opening the door for Fox to go in almost any direction they choose for future X films
Except that you can see Ironside in the newly released trailer as a Captain of one of the ships.
psyonic
04-28-2011, 03:28 PM
wasn't it rumored...
Earlier this week it was reported here at Cbm that fans could be in for a surprise cameo in Mathew Vaughn's upcoming X-Men First Class. It was also reported that Michael Ironside (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000461/) would appear in the film in an undisclosed role. Now, a source close to the project is claiming that the cameo is none other than an aging and dying Cable and that Micheal Ironside is actually set to portray him. The source also reports that Cable jumps back in time to warn Charles Xavier about an anomaly in the timeline that only Prof X has the ability to prevent. Apparently something has happened that effectively changed the future. This raises the possibility that all previous X films take place in an "alternate reality" effectively opening the door for Fox to go in almost any direction they choose for future X films
Ironside is the Captain of one of the ships as seen in the trailer .. it says CAPT on his helmet.
Nightmare
04-28-2011, 03:29 PM
I love that idea though. More like fan speculation without any truth to it.
psyonic
04-28-2011, 03:29 PM
And it was reported that the cameo is Jennifer Lawrence Raven transforming into Rebecca Romijn Raven as the "fun cameo"
SuperSoldier985
04-28-2011, 03:34 PM
That would be....interesting. I'd actually like that, especially if Mystique's non-human form truly is Romijn and that Jennifer Lawrence is just some random girl that Raven has been impersonating for the sake of appearances...
protocida
04-28-2011, 03:53 PM
Other way arround.
EnDz0n3
04-28-2011, 03:59 PM
I think she gasps because she sees the missiles coming their way...
But there's already a scene in the trailer with Mystique (and the other X-men, including a hunched over Beast) reacting to the missiles.
josh8
04-28-2011, 04:22 PM
But there's already a scene in the trailer with Mystique (and the other X-men, including a hunched over Beast) reacting to the missiles.
I think the fact that there are so many possibilities about what she might be reacting to is what's making me so psyched!!! There's so much left unspoiled.
EnDz0n3
04-28-2011, 04:24 PM
Does anyone have the set pics of the wreckage of the X-jet on the island, with the green/blue screen and everything?
Coz in the pic of Mystique reacting to something, the wreckage seems to be behind her.
TheWatcher
04-28-2011, 05:17 PM
We've had 4 films of Cyclops cameos. I'd rather they actually give him an actual role for once or just leave him out of it.
:up:
John Locke
04-28-2011, 06:13 PM
I'm thinking they'll just screw the third movie and have Ironside be Trask. He watches Magneto lift up the submarine and decides that mutants aren't a weapon but a threat he needs to eliminate. As a cliffhanger for a sequel.
Blader5489
04-28-2011, 09:44 PM
wasn't it rumored...
Earlier this week it was reported here at Cbm that fans could be in for a surprise cameo in Mathew Vaughn's upcoming X-Men First Class. It was also reported that Michael Ironside (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000461/) would appear in the film in an undisclosed role. Now, a source close to the project is claiming that the cameo is none other than an aging and dying Cable and that Micheal Ironside is actually set to portray him. The source also reports that Cable jumps back in time to warn Charles Xavier about an anomaly in the timeline that only Prof X has the ability to prevent. Apparently something has happened that effectively changed the future. This raises the possibility that all previous X films take place in an "alternate reality" effectively opening the door for Fox to go in almost any direction they choose for future X films
That was an April Fools joke.
Wolverine1988
04-28-2011, 10:03 PM
I love how Michael Ironside always randomly appears in blockbuster movies, you don't hear of him getting cast, but than he shows up in the trailer or when you first see the movie.
Michael Ironside is the man
The Original Bamfer
04-28-2011, 10:10 PM
Does anyone have the set pics of the wreckage of the X-jet on the island, with the green/blue screen and everything?
Coz in the pic of Mystique reacting to something, the wreckage seems to be behind her.
Yeah, I'm sure that's the sub behind her, so she may be reacting to the jet crashing or a number of things... Xavier paralyzed, Xavier and Magneto fighting, a fallen comrad, what have you...
The Original Bamfer
04-28-2011, 11:15 PM
That was an April Fools joke.
Yep, no time travel in this film.
Mulholland '49
04-29-2011, 12:02 AM
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5254/vlcsnap2011042712h39m39.png
Just want to comment on how FANTASTIC Mystique looks in this! She's came a long way from uhh... this:
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/MulhollandGeneral/vty.jpg
:doh: Lord have mercy!! This is worse than the old Beast photo.
psylockolussus
04-29-2011, 04:44 AM
I like their gloves
psylockolussus
04-29-2011, 04:46 AM
We've had 4 films of Cyclops cameos. I'd rather they actually give him an actual role for once or just leave him out of it.
I think you misinterpreted the definition of the word "Cameo"
merbass
04-29-2011, 05:16 AM
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5254/vlcsnap2011042712h39m39.png
Just want to comment on how FANTASTIC Mystique looks in this! She's came a long way from uhh... this:
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/MulhollandGeneral/vty.jpg
:doh: Lord have mercy!! This is worse than the old Beast photo.
Her eyes look CG ! It's not a bad thing though. I think she is seeing all the missiles being shot to the beach like we see in the trailer, just before magneto stops it !
Project862006
04-29-2011, 05:46 AM
Full Trailer Music -
Kopius Few "Half The Man
VuwNUET_QOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuwNUET_QOE
Cool!
Also, the band Take That have a new song called "Love Love" wich will be featured during the end credits.
Electrix
04-29-2011, 06:53 AM
Take That did 'Rule the World' for Stardust, so Vaughn has connections! They're the biggest group in the UK at the moment, so it's a good move for UK promotion.
chaseter
04-29-2011, 08:19 AM
Take a good look at that Mystique photo. That is a propeller behind her. That means that is the sub wreckage behind her. So is this after Beast drives Charles and Erik to lift the sub out of the water???
Kane52630
04-29-2011, 08:25 AM
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2121/vlcsnap2011042712h39m32.png
Question: Is this Shaw or Magneto?
chaseter
04-29-2011, 08:42 AM
Shaw
Spider-ManHero12
04-29-2011, 09:24 AM
I'll be honest, my hype for this film has reached it's peak. Before we had a trailer, I was very sketpical, but now I'm really excited. However, I still want to see X-Men 4 after this.
RachelDawes
04-29-2011, 11:15 AM
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5254/vlcsnap2011042712h39m39.png
Just want to comment on how FANTASTIC Mystique looks in this! She's came a long way from uhh... this:
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/MulhollandGeneral/vty.jpg
:doh: Lord have mercy!! This is worse than the old Beast photo.
I don't see any difference really.
EnDz0n3
04-29-2011, 12:21 PM
I don't see any difference really.
I'm of the same opinion. I actually like her hair better in the tiny pic.
I'll be honest, my hype for this film has reached it's peak. Before we had a trailer, I was very sketpical, but now I'm really excited. However, I still want to see X-Men 4 after this.
I'd rather see sequels to this film than try to continue after the messy X-men The Last Stand.
As much as I love X1 and X2, First Class looks and feels more like the comics for the most part. I only got that feeling here and there from the first three X-men films, not necessarily a bad thing. Vaughn seems to be making this film as faithful as possible.
The Original Bamfer
04-29-2011, 12:37 PM
I love how you can see where the black leather X-Suits have kept several details from these awesome suits. Yay for continuity!
chaseter
04-29-2011, 12:55 PM
I have to say...I was iffy on how Mystique would look but that shot up there with her hands over her mouth is just fantastic. Or shall I say...fantastique. The colors, the costume, the makeup, the background...amazing.
craigdbfan
04-29-2011, 01:06 PM
Yeah, Its a really great shot.
GuestStar2004
04-29-2011, 01:13 PM
Yeah, I'm sure that's the sub behind her, so she may be reacting to the jet crashing or a number of things... Xavier paralyzed, Xavier and Magneto fighting, a fallen comrad, what have you...
in one of the screenshots it looks like he is stranding after the crash so i dont think its the crash that does it
the a1ant
04-29-2011, 01:27 PM
Many similarities :)
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7852/laststand4.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/laststand4.jpg/)
chaseter
04-29-2011, 01:29 PM
If only Storm had went instead of Scott:(
The Original Bamfer
04-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Many similarities :)
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7852/laststand4.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/laststand4.jpg/)
Yikes, that looks more dated than the 'First Class' suits.
Wefflehouse
04-29-2011, 02:51 PM
I have to say...I was iffy on how Mystique would look but that shot up there with her hands over her mouth is just fantastic. Or shall I say...fantastique. The colors, the costume, the makeup, the background...amazing.
I absolutely agree. She looks great in that yellow uniform. That and she truly looks like a younger version of the same character that was so popular in the original trilogy.
SymbioticToxin
04-29-2011, 03:43 PM
I want to know if I can get the music from the trailers downloaded somehow. I absolutely love it.
Kane52630
04-29-2011, 07:24 PM
I want to know if I can get the music from the trailers downloaded somehow. I absolutely love it.
Video2mp3.net > past youtube link > get .mp3
Update on the whole writing credit fiasco...
X-Men guru Bryan Singer is frustrated by a WGA decision over the writing credits for the summer tentpole X-Men: First Class.
“I don’t understand the decision but I will respect it,” Singer tells THR in his first public comments on the complicated arbitration that ended with Singer sharing “story by” credit with Sheldon Turner, who never officially worked on First Class. (The teams of Ashley Miller & Zack Stentz and Jane Goldman & Matthew Vaughn will share screenplay credit.)
Read the full backstory on the arbitration here (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/complex-x-men-first-class-182356)
Singer believes writer Jamie Moss, who penned an early draft of First Class from a treatment by Singer, should have received credit instead of Turner, who wrote a scrapped Magneto spinoff, elements of which were incorporated into First Class. But a WGA appeals panel made its final ruling today upholding its previous decision excluding Moss after he and Singer made a last stand in a hearing this morning.
"I know where my ideas came from and none of them came from that script,” Singer says. “I never read it. The story I created came from myself and the [X-Men] comic books.” Sources told THR that one element of the WGA decision was that both Magneto and First Class feature a Nazi doctor as a villian.
The credit arbitration process is one of the most controversial topics among Hollywood writers. Arbitrators try to determine who wrote what based on complex criteria meant to parse out contributions, but the results often leave writers feeling short-changed. The First Class situation was even more complex because Fox has developed several spinoffs and sequels in its X-Men franchise. Singer says he did read a Josh Schwartz-penned version of First Class but Schwartz was also denied acknowledgement by the WGA arbitrator.
Singer, who also is a producer on First Class (he directed the first two X-Men films, generally considered the best in the series) initially declined to join Moss’ appeal on First Class, but he changed his mind Friday morning after traveling from London on a break from shooting Jack the Giant Killer (he was off due to a holiday caused by the royal wedding). Singer did not attend today’s appeal but his representatives did.
Part of Singer's decision to appeal stemmed from his wanting to support Moss, with whom he worked on early drafts. He also felt it was important to defend his work.
“These things happen when you’re creative and basing things on previous material,” Singer says. “Coincidences can happen. But to share credits with someone I had never met and had never worked with on this project seems a bit unusual.”
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/bryan-singer-why-i-challenged-183781
That sucks. :(
X-Maniac
04-29-2011, 08:02 PM
^^^ It sucks if you are Jamie Moss, I would say.
Doesn't sound like Josh Schwartz's ideas were taken on board at all. And I'm surprised Singer says he didn't read the X-Men Origins: Magneto script, as there are parts that seem similar to First Class.
I'm not. He came on board with his own treatment at the end of '09.
EnDz0n3
04-29-2011, 08:13 PM
Yikes, that looks more dated than the 'First Class' suits.
How so?
SuperSoldier985
04-29-2011, 10:15 PM
How so?
Just ignore him.. :p
marvelrobbins
04-29-2011, 10:33 PM
Bryan Singer when he came on to first X-Men scrapped the previous scripts just as when came on Superman scrapped the contorvsal JJ Abrams Superman script.I believe him.Back In the day Sheldon Turner said Magneto spaned the 1940's to 1950's.
Also notice Josh Schwartz wanted credit even though most of his stuff was thrown out.
I am so glad the producer of Gossip Girl does not have a hand In the final version of First Class.
S.A.A.D.
04-30-2011, 02:16 PM
Mystique looks alot better now. :up:
Theweepeople
04-30-2011, 05:55 PM
It's been a while since I posted here. Overall, I happy with the most of the news I've heard about this film for the past 3 months. The latest international trailer blew me away. I haven't been this excited for an X-Men film in 7 years. I just hope a running time of at least 2 hours will be confirmed so I can put all my fears aside.
The only things that still bother me a little bit are some of the characters chosen for this storyline. I've accepted the decision of not including Scott Summers and Jean Grey but, annoyed characters such as Darwin and Angel Salvatore were chosen instead of two classic original X-Men.
On the villain side I'm glad the Hell Fire club are in this film but, I'm not happy with some of their most prominent members missing. If I'm not mistaken Donald Pierce(White Bishop), Harry Leland(Black Bishop), and Jason Wyngarde(Mastermind) are not in this film.
SuperSoldier985
04-30-2011, 06:08 PM
Yeah, it is a little iffy that there doesn't seem to be any signs of the other members of the Hellfire Club, but on the other hand, this movie seems crowded enough already...I dunno.
c-saw
04-30-2011, 06:20 PM
According to Mark Millar (http://twitter.com/#!/mrmarkmillar) the movie is done:
Matthew V back in London and we had long gossip last night. He's done X-Men in less than a year. It's insane. But he sounded v pleased.
Silvermoth
04-30-2011, 07:41 PM
That's good. I was worried about Matt having to rush the film. I wish Fox hadn't done that to him but if he's happy than I'm happy.
and what an awesome time to be back in the London!
SuperSoldier985
04-30-2011, 07:55 PM
That's good. I was worried about Matt having to rush the film. I wish Fox hadn't done that to him but if he's happy than I'm happy.
and what an awesome time to be back in the London!
Well, contrary to popular belief, most movies (especially summer releases) tend to have firm production schedules. It's just how it is.
gkokujin
05-01-2011, 11:47 AM
you know what i love about this looking so awesome?
go to old websites that first leaked pics and plot 6 months ago, everyone was like "THIS SUCKS, I HATE THIS"
now that trailer hit and everyone is like "OMG THIS WILL BE AWESOME!"
Sweet Xstacy
05-01-2011, 11:53 AM
you know what i love about this looking so awesome?
go to old websites that first leaked pics and plot 6 months ago, everyone was like "THIS SUCKS, I HATE THIS"
now that trailer hit and everyone is like "OMG THIS WILL BE AWESOME!"
Hopefully this translates into box office success so they can finish the trilogy.
Hopefully this translates into box office success so they can finish the trilogy.
:up:
Loganbabe
05-01-2011, 02:04 PM
Slightly different version of the poster...
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac312/jamsessionmb/LCA/Films/XM1C/PR%20articles%20and%20photos/c15f7ab8.jpg
...where McAvoy looks much better than in this:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac312/jamsessionmb/LCA/Films/XM1C/PR%20articles%20and%20photos/e3240e15.jpg
Sad that that is the best poster so far.
Majik1387
05-01-2011, 02:07 PM
I don't get what's so bad about the poster. Other than the annoying slant.
Kane52630
05-01-2011, 02:08 PM
...where McAvoy looks much better than in this:
"He swayed his arms to his left...ITS BRILLIANT!"
SuperSoldier985
05-01-2011, 02:08 PM
Still not diggin 'em
I don't get what's so bad about the poster. Other than the annoying slant.
I never said it was bad. It's just unfortunate that the best one sheet for the film is a generic shot of all the characters superimposed next to one another.
And by "best" I mean it's the only one sheet that doesn't make me want to gag. :(
Storm22
05-01-2011, 02:11 PM
I don't get what's so bad about the poster. Other than the annoying slant.
Me either. I like the other one too, the one that looks like the X2 poster.
Loganbabe
05-01-2011, 02:15 PM
"He swayed his arms to his left...ITS BRILLIANT!"
The way he's walking seems much more natural. Xavier looked like a robot in the other version. :o
LOL, all they did was FLIP his body.
Loganbabe
05-01-2011, 02:19 PM
LOL, all they did was FLIP his body.
Because they found out the other position looked unnatural and weird? :whatever:
Majik1387
05-01-2011, 02:21 PM
It's because it was the same pose as Erik that it looked weird.
Kane52630
05-01-2011, 02:21 PM
Because they found out the other position looked unnatural and weird? :whatever:
:dry:
Because they found out the other position looked unnatural and weird? :whatever:
I was just pointing out that fact. I found it amusing. :huh:
Loganbabe
05-01-2011, 02:28 PM
:huh:
RachelDawes
05-01-2011, 02:38 PM
According to Mark Millar (http://twitter.com/#!/mrmarkmillar) the movie is done:
Matthew V back in London and we had long gossip last night. He's done X-Men in less than a year. It's insane. But he sounded v pleased.
I'm impressed. I figured he's be working right up to the last minute. Glad to hear he's very pleased with the finished product. :up:
Project862006
05-01-2011, 06:45 PM
mark millar also believed he would direct superman and that kick ass 2 would be in production
Mark Millar also poops gold.
Mark Millar also poops gold.
I bet he said that to didn't he ?
:woot:
c-saw
05-01-2011, 06:49 PM
mark millar also believed he would direct superman and that kick ass 2 would be in production
Speculating and wishful thinking is one thing and talking about events in which you were involved is another.
Deaths Head II
05-02-2011, 01:57 AM
Speculating and wishful thinking is one thing and talking about events in which you were involved is another.
Except he always claims he was involved in events he wasn't involved with.
protocida
05-02-2011, 12:52 PM
mark millar also believed he would direct superman and that kick ass 2 would be in production
You're wrong about Superman.
SymbioticToxin
05-02-2011, 05:31 PM
Figured I share this with you all
VuwNUET_QOE
Kane52630
05-02-2011, 05:40 PM
^ already posted.
jaymes_e06
05-02-2011, 05:41 PM
Nice find though.:)
Sweet Xstacy
05-02-2011, 05:44 PM
Thanks for sharing!
SymbioticToxin
05-02-2011, 05:48 PM
^ already posted.
Shut up Kane, you didn't post it. You lie!
Kane52630
05-02-2011, 05:54 PM
Shut up Kane, you didn't post it. You lie!
Of course I didn't but Project posted it on page 15. And yes i'm being a Dick Grayson right now.
Full Trailer Music -
Kopius Few "Half The Man
VuwNUET_QOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuwNUET_QOE
jaymes_e06
05-02-2011, 06:32 PM
Shut up Kane, you didn't post it. You lie!
http://i54.tinypic.com/6g8oc2.jpg
Darkness Falls
05-02-2011, 06:44 PM
been waiting for that a long time :D
The Original Bamfer
05-03-2011, 01:21 AM
IMDB Trivia for the film claims the leader of the Hellfire Club is Apocalypse, haha.
MoPlaYa
05-03-2011, 03:10 AM
LMAO.... IMDB cracks me up more often then not.
merbass
05-03-2011, 08:03 AM
Did you notice the scene in the trailer where Mystique said " Should we have to hide ? "
I believe she was talking to Erik where he will say " No, you shouldn't have to "
Just like how she said the same to Nightcrawler 40 years later !
Mulholland '49
05-03-2011, 09:05 AM
30 Days guys! FOX, Market the f*** out of the this thing!
Holy hell! Just a month. Wooo!
The trailer is playing with the number one movie in the US.. there are posters and standees all over theaters. Posters/Billboards all over NYC. :up:
merbass
05-03-2011, 09:36 AM
A month ? I forgot it is coming so soon ! Since X3, i've never been as excited for the X-men movie like this one.
SuperSoldier985
05-03-2011, 11:02 AM
Oh damn!
Time flies..
BRING ON THE TV SPOTS DAMMIT!!
Actually, I would very much expect tv spots to start airing this week. Tuesdays and Wednesday nights are usually great times for advertising for FOX (and ABC to some extent). However, it's quite possible that they will wait until next week, as Thor/Paramount/Marvel will probably spend more of their time promoting this week and it might be a good idea to wait until after this weekend to start a XMFC marketing blitz in order to maximize the effectiveness of the promotion for Marvel.
Sweet Xstacy
05-03-2011, 03:18 PM
Yep. It's time for the media blitz. I've seen Green Lantern commercials on tv already. Need to see some first class.
lastairbender
05-03-2011, 04:28 PM
Hi guys, I want this:
http://video.fnac.com/a3528484/X-Men-Le-commencement-Coffret-de-pre-reservation-Specifique-Fnac-James-McAvoy-Blu-Ray
Blu ray for October
Loganbabe
05-03-2011, 04:40 PM
Blu ray for October
:wow: :wow: :wow::up:
lastairbender
05-03-2011, 04:57 PM
Hey guys do uyou think we will be getting some epic action scenes? We've seen only some shots from the one with the jet, but nothing about the spoken beach battle right?
By the way Singer told us that there will be more mutants than the already known, right?
And i want character posters (with different poses,please, they are always using the same) please!! I need more stuff going on... Green lantern comes later and have things online, tvspots, posters and so on
Sorry i'm anxious eheh
c-saw
05-03-2011, 05:02 PM
Hey guys do uyou think we will be getting some epic action scenes?
Matthew Vaughn /nuff said
I'm glad they didn't spoil that much in the trailers in terms of action scenes. I'm curious what the guy can do with the bigger budget he had here not to mention all the mutants and their powers.
protocida
05-03-2011, 05:12 PM
From what I've heard, we will have the following action scenes:
Erik Lensherr fighting the banker and his men in Switzerland.
Xavier and Lensherr containing a student riot in Oxford.
Azazel breaking into Division X.
X-Men training montage.
Cuba battle.
CIA battle.
Sweet Xstacy
05-03-2011, 05:21 PM
Okay I just read on Deadline.com that Fox lost it's head marketing guy to Sony. Maybe that's why the marketing for this film has been a little lacklustre to say the least. They really do need to step it up.
Doc Ock
05-03-2011, 05:54 PM
Okay I just read on Deadline.com that Fox lost it's head marketing guy to Sony. Maybe that's why the marketing for this film has been a little lacklustre to say the least.
Well that would be a nice excuse.
lastairbender
05-03-2011, 05:58 PM
Just a question xperts! here we know that beast turns blue because of Mystiques serum DNA(nice addition) but is it explained in the comics why he is blue?
SuperSoldier985
05-03-2011, 06:01 PM
Okay I just read on Deadline.com that Fox lost it's head marketing guy to Sony. Maybe that's why the marketing for this film has been a little lacklustre to say the least. They really do need to step it up.
lol, I wouldn't go that far to say that's the reason. Lackluster? We just got two brand new trailers in a week.
I'm sticking with my original thinking and say that the promotion for this movie, is staying relatively under wraps and low key/viral...through movie websites, facebook, twitter,..etc. In a summer season so crowded with movies, they need to be careful with how much they spend on marketing too early. 5 years ago, early marketing would've been 5 months out. But the media and comic book movie world has changed so dramatically over the last few years, and so has the average viewer's attention span and "social memory", it's probably just as effective to wait about 3 weeks out to really sell the hell out of a movie.
Sure, Thor had its name out there somewhat earlier, but it's only been in the last 2-3 weeks that we've been bombarded with tv spots, promotional material, sneak peeks, and other things--and a lot of that probably has to do also with its early international release date too.
Until Thor has been out for a week or so, I'd expect X-Men promotion to be relatively subtle...Both movies will be big moneymakers for Marvel and they'll try to distance themselves and not overlap each other and end up affecting each others' box offices, let alone having to worry about all of the other big box office hitters they'll have to contend with.
Sweet Xstacy
05-03-2011, 06:07 PM
lol, I wouldn't go that far to say that's the reason. Lackluster? We just got two brand new trailers in a week.
I'm sticking with my original thinking and say that the promotion for this movie, is staying relatively under wraps and low key/viral...through movie websites, facebook, twitter,..etc. In a summer season so crowded with movies, they need to be careful with how much they spend on marketing too early.
Sure, Thor had its name out there somewhat earlier, but it's only been in the last 2-3 weeks that we've been bombarded with tv spots, promotional material, sneak peeks, and other things--and a lot of that probably has to do also with its early international release date too.
Until Thor has been out for a week or so, I'd expect X-Men promotion to be relatively subtle...Both movies will be big moneymakers for Marvel and they'll try to distance themselves and not overlap each other and end up affecting each others' box offices, let alone having to worry about all of the other big box office hitters they'll have to contend with.
LOL Sorry if not for the trailers nobody would be checking for First Class. I guess I'm just anxious and worried that it will get lost in the shuffle of all these big budget releases. At least the trailers are being shown in theatres now. But seeing the GL commercials all the time makes me wonder if this marketing is falling short.
Hellion
05-03-2011, 06:12 PM
Just a question xperts! here we know that beast turns blue because of Mystiques serum DNA(nice addition) but is it explained in the comics why he is blue?
I've been trying to remain a little spoiler free......compared to the last couple x-films......but when did the mystique/beast come from?
SuperSoldier985
05-03-2011, 06:14 PM
LOL Sorry if not for the trailers nobody would be checking for First Class. I guess I'm just anxious and worried that it will get lost in the shuffle of all these big budget releases. At least the trailers are being shown in theatres now. But seeing the GL commercials all the time makes me wonder if this marketing is falling short.
A month is like a year in marketing time, don't worry...
and remember, there were a lot of mixed reactions out of the GL trailer(s), whereas there have been wholly positive reactions from XMFC and its trailers, so...I'd say XMFC is safe right now, because the buzz is still positive.
I mean, they JUST debuted two new trailers last week, one of which was seen by the millions and millions of people who came out to see Fast Five, which will go a long way.
The marketing is nowhere near falling short as much to say that it's probably not as much as what we would like at this point. It's just too early to talk about where the marketing needs to be and again, with Thor coming in with so much momentum, the new trailers from last week is plenty of enough for now. I guarantee that this movie will kick it into high gear by the end of next week.
SuperSoldier985
05-03-2011, 06:22 PM
Yep. It's time for the media blitz. I've seen Green Lantern commercials on tv already. Need to see some first class.
There's no need to worry. GL and XMFC aren't really in competition with each other. I mean, die hard fans are probably gonna see both anyway and casual moviegoers are going to see whatever they want. With two weeks between their release dates, there's enough time for families who want to see both, they still can. They won't have to necessarily fight between the two. The two movies couldn't be more different. So, whatever marketing that GL does, that should not dictate the marketing of XMFC. I think the overlap in audiences between Super 8 (following weekend release for X-Men) is less than the overlap between Cars 2 (following weekend release for Green Lantern). With that in mind, I think Green Lantern might need the extra push so that it remains competitive against Cars 2's opening weekend and any kind of momentum that Super 8 has.
I could see if XMFC was like a week away, but we've only hit the one-month mark and I think in the interest of anyone who would care, this movie is ok where it is so far...
Sweet Xstacy
05-03-2011, 06:29 PM
There's no need to worry. GL and XMFC aren't really in competition with each other. I mean, die hard fans are probably gonna see both anyway and casual moviegoers are going to see whatever they want. With two weeks between their release dates, there's enough time for families who want to see both, they still can. They won't have to necessarily fight between the two. The two movies couldn't be more different. So, whatever marketing that GL does, that should dictate the marketing of XMFC. I think the overlap in audiences between Super 8 (for X-Men) is less than the overlap between Cars 2 (for Green Lantern). With that in mind, I think Green Lantern might need the extra push so that it remains competitive against Cars 2's opening weekend.
I could see if XMFC was like a week away, but we've only hit the one-month mark and I think in the interest of anyone who would care, this movie is ok where it is so far...
Okay:yay:
SuperSoldier985
05-03-2011, 06:36 PM
I had to go deeper.. :p
But, no...it's gonna be hell for every single movie released for the next 2 months. I know I'm going to be spending almost every single weekend at the movie theater from now until November probably.
lastairbender
05-03-2011, 07:10 PM
It's from the MSN character descriptions....
Lencho01
05-03-2011, 07:15 PM
A new interview with Thor and First Class writers, Ashley Edward Miller and Zack Stentz. It's pretty interesting. Just posting the stuff pertaining to First Class...
http://io9.com/#!5798178/fresh-off-thor-and-x+men-first-class-hollywoods-next-big-writing-duo-is-about-to-explode (http://io9.com/#%215798178/fresh-off-thor-and-x+men-first-class-hollywoods-next-big-writing-duo-is-about-to-explode)
Fresh off Thor and X-Men: First Class, Hollywood’s next big writing duo is about to explode
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Charlie Jane Anders (http://io9.com/people/charliejane/) — Ashley Edward Miller and Zack Stentz have written two of the summer's biggest movies, Thor and X-Men: First Class. They're fast becoming the go-to writers for revitalizing beloved science-fiction characters. We talked to them about what they've learned so far.
Miller and Stentz made their bones writing for Andromeda and Twilight Zone, then went on to write for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. (Including the nuclear sub two-parter.) And then they wrote four of the strongest, most mythology-heavy episodes of Fringe. (Including "strawberry-flavored death.")
How did writing for John Connor and Walter Bishop prepare them to tackle Charles Xavier and Loki? And will we ever see their Richard Feynman adventure movie? Find out below.
Early career
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You guys had some pretty divergent careers before you got into writing for television and movies. Schoolteacher, consultant to the Navy, journalist... what made you both want to be writers instead? What did you learn from those other jobs that you're able to apply in your writing gigs?
Miller: I've always wanted to be a writer. My mother tells me I used to wander around the kitchen when I was three years old, dictating stories to her. I was evidently the subject of her doctoral thesis on teaching reading and writing, so she actually sat and took the dictation. It was a little like having an assistant who also made me PB&J and changed my diapers. That costs you extra in today's workplace environment.
As for the need to tell stories... it's always been with me. Always. As a child, it was largely regurgitation of stories I loved. Now, with THOR and X-MEN: FIRST CLASS, it's largely regurgitation of stories I loved as a child. Make of that what you will.
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My early and very eclectic work experiences had an enormous influence on who I am as a writer. Certainly the technical knowledge can be circumstantially useful — the T:SCC 2-parter is a great example, and in some sense so are all of the episodes with a foot in the future ala "Goodbye to All That" — but the real importance is a little more subtle than that.
First, we feel blessed to have had real life experiences. I think the great weakness of many young writers is that they come to LA, graduate from USC or wherever, and immediately jump into TV and features. They don't have anything to say, generally, because they don't have anything to talk about except that thing they've all done. The dragon swallows it's own tail, to some degree. Maybe it's better to say the ice cream cone licks itself. That's a real problem. For me, I like to think that I'm accessing genuine emotions and personal history when I write almost anything. Whether it's ANDROMEDA'S Dylan Hunt coldly engaging an enemy starship in our very first produced credit, "D Minus Zero" or Agent Coulson watching in something akin to wonder and anger as Thor kicks the **** out of his agents, I feel as though I know those guys. I've met them. I'm not pulling that stuff out of my ass. I'm not saying no one else could write that, but I can say no one else would write it quite the same way we did because our characters are coming from someplace real.
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That's the emotional piece. The intellectual pieces are smaller but add up. Being a teacher taught me how to manage my time, how to manage other people's time, how to keep a group of people on target and how to impart information to an audience who'd rather be doing anything else. Teaching English and Creative Writing meant I spent a lot of time deconstructing and reconstructing my own ideas of how an audience experiences text (text can also mean visual storytelling) and how writers convey ideas through text. The transitive power of imagery and ideas hit home for me in a big way.
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For example, I taught Jonathan Livingston Seagull to my 8th graders. One day toward the end of the school year, I was having an argument with one of the other teachers in my department as to whether or not we should buy a class set and include it in the curriculum. Her position — and she is a GREAT teacher, by the way — was that the book was too complex for the kids to really access it. As we were talking, one of my kids passed the room so I called him in. The exchange went something like this:
ME: "Michael, what is happiness?"
MICHAEL: "Happiness is perfect speed, Mr. Miller."
ME: "And what is perfect speed?"
MICHAEL: "Perfect speed is being there, Mr. Miller."
ME: "Okay. Michael. If that's true... what is happiness?"
MICHAEL: "Mr. Miller... Happiness is being there."
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As a teacher, I was insufferably pleased with myself. As a writer, I realized how the audience by its nature will connect what is presented to them. My job as a writer is to give them what they need to make the connections that matter. It's all experiential. You can't argue an audience into believing your story — they will read it, hear it, or see it and they will decide what it means. It's something I come back to a lot when talking to execs, producers or other writers — what's the audience's experience of this film? How does what they've seen inform what they're seeing now? Context is king.
Writing Thor and X-Men: First Class
How did you manage to score the gigs writing for both Thor and X-Men right after leaving Fringe? Did both gigs come around the same time, or is it just a weird fluke that both films are coming out the same summer?
Miller: It's a fluke. We wrote THOR in the winter of 2008-2009 while we were on T:SCC. We were offered X-MEN after we left Fringe, but in part because we already had a different script assignment from Fox. We left Fringe to pursue features, which seems to have worked out okay.
Thor is one of those characters that a lot of comics writers don't seem to know what to do with, ever since the awesome Walt Simonson run. How do you make this larger-than-life but also kind of silly character cool? How do you resist the temptation to make Thor "relevant" or emo? Were there any particular runs on Thor that you guys found helpful in getting a handle on the character?
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Miller: Walt Simonson was a huge influence. So was Mark Millar, in terms of how Thor was presented in action in the Ultimates 1 and 2. I'm a huge fan of Thor, which I think is key. I believe in his emotional reality, so it's not hard to translate that into a script. That's the key with any of these movies — find the emotional reality and dramatize it. That gives your characters weight and your stories value. It's as true for Thor as it is for Derek Reese.
Stentz: What did they used to say in the 80s? "Let Reagan be Reagan?" We just tried to let Thor be Thor, because there's a really strong, defined core of that character that comes through loud and clear across the decades, whether it's in the space opera of Simonson, the epic hero of the Fraction one shots, or the more grounded version in the JMS run. And honestly, we also went straight back to the source when thinking about and writing Thor— the Prose Edda of Snorri Sturlson and various Norse myths, which are so vivid and memorable themselves. Those Norse storytellers knew what they were doing when they paired a strong man and a clever man as friends, brothers, and rivals.
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The X-Men are often used as a metaphor for the Civil Rights movement, but X-Men: First Class actually takes place during the era of MLK. Given that this is a much more repressive culture, where difference of all sorts is less tolerated, how does that change the way you think about the mutant struggle for acceptance?
Miller: That sort of thing certainly runs through your mind, but you can't make the movie about that. You can't even make the movie about the Cuban Missile Crisis. It's layered into subtext - although oddly in this case, I think it's more explicit with respect to attitudes toward women. Even that is very small.
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Stentz: I think the MLK-Malcolm X dichotomy has always been in the Singer X-Men films...he even has Magneto say "By any means necessary" at one point! But actually setting an X-Men film during the Civil Rights Era, which coincided with this wonderful, crazy period of technological optimism and possibility, opened up the storytelling in a lot of ways. Partway through the process, we realized that what we were writing in many ways had the vibe of a 1960s Connery Bond film, which was something Matthew Vaughn really responded to in the material and ran with. He just did a wonderful job of transplanting the X-Men into a whole jet age, swingin' London, Civil Rights, JFK New Frontier era.
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Also, should we be calling that plane the Blackbird, or just the SR-71?
Miller: Call it whatever you prefer. In the script, the first X-jet is actually a modified XB-70. That appears to have changed on its way to the stage, although never in the pages.
Stentz: Yes, in our drafts, the original X-Jet was a prototype of the XB-70 Valkyrie, my favorite Cold War superjet of all time. It was changed to an SR-71 fairly late in the game, but I admit it would have been nice to see that crazy Mach 3 stainless steel bomber on the big screen.
SuperSoldier985
05-03-2011, 07:47 PM
Nice article!
Stentz and Miller seem to be pretty sharp
Sweet Xstacy
05-04-2011, 12:20 AM
Very nice indeed. They seem to be passionate about their ideas and skills. Hopefully it all comes together on the big screen.
psylockolussus
05-04-2011, 05:26 AM
XFC is gonna blow everyone's mind!
psylockolussus
05-04-2011, 05:44 AM
Hi guys, I want this:
http://video.fnac.com/a3528484/X-Men-Le-commencement-Coffret-de-pre-reservation-Specifique-Fnac-James-McAvoy-Blu-Ray
Blu ray for October
Can't wait for the DVD
lastairbender
05-04-2011, 08:46 AM
I usually go every week to the cinema and havent seen any teaser or trailer. Also any poster or standee.
I went to see Thor a couple of days ago (great movie but a bit overrated, good permormances, one good action scene in the beginning) hoping to see a trailer in full glory but nothing :( perhaps with Fast 5 (wont see it)
lastairbender
05-04-2011, 08:48 AM
by the way, i work at Fnac, so i have to check if that pre order dvd box comes eventually..
SuperSoldier985
05-04-2011, 08:50 AM
I usually go every week to the cinema and havent seen any teaser or trailer. Also any poster or standee.
I went to see Thor a couple of days ago (great movie but a bit overrated, good permormances, one good action scene in the beginning) hoping to see a trailer in full glory but nothing :( perhaps with Fast 5 (wont see it)
When you saw Thor, what trailers were shown instead?
lastairbender
05-04-2011, 09:08 AM
Nothing special, just Fast 5 and Pirates 4...:dry:
I actually think this is the best one yet.
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/xmenfrench.jpg
TheComicbookKid
05-04-2011, 12:52 PM
Sweet!
But having Emma there makes it look like she's an X-Man. Where's Moira?
Marvin
05-04-2011, 12:54 PM
Nope.
it's another lame attempt.
What's with the jet in the "background"
Magneto's posture..
They really should have gone with the star trek approach
I actually think this is the best one yet.
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/xmenfrench.jpg
I do too. I think their stances are much better.
SuperSoldier985
05-04-2011, 01:48 PM
It's not great, but I like it a lot better than most of the others!
jaymes_e06
05-04-2011, 02:14 PM
At least it isn't just a rehash of the X2 promotional pics. That's improvement.
jaymes_e06
05-04-2011, 02:23 PM
I usually go every week to the cinema and havent seen any teaser or trailer. Also any poster or standee.
I went to see Thor a couple of days ago (great movie but a bit overrated, good permormances, one good action scene in the beginning) hoping to see a trailer in full glory but nothing :( perhaps with Fast 5 (wont see it)
Yeah those "Fast" movies are for a certain persons who are not me...
But it really wasn't attached to Thor? Strange.
Glutton
05-04-2011, 02:23 PM
Finally Mags is wearing his uniform in a poster :woot:
IMO we should have a poster with the X-MEN & another one focusing on the bad guys cuz it might get confusing to some.Or does Emma switch sides at some point?:wow:
jaymes_e06
05-04-2011, 02:28 PM
Well from everything I'm getting form this there aren't any clearly defined "sides" just Hellfire Club interacting with Charles and Erick to assemble Cerebro and towards the end perhaps they become the bad guys. Lets not forget that Mystique and Mags eventually become the Brotherhood and that's already confusing enough to the general audiances anyway so I doubt Fox really cares.
Crockett
05-04-2011, 02:36 PM
It's not horrendous as the others true, still I just wish that they would put a little more effort to the poster, it's nice to see Havok there though. Anyway I can't believe that the movie is out in four weeks from now. Soon.
Storm22
05-04-2011, 02:37 PM
That's a great poster imo!
SuperSoldier985
05-04-2011, 02:38 PM
Nothing special, just Fast 5 and Pirates 4...:dry:
Well, if you're in Portugal, they probably do things a little bit differently and focus on the more immediate releases....
I assume in Portugal, Fast Five and Pirates 4 will be opening before XMFC..
Glutton
05-04-2011, 02:42 PM
new pic just turned up :cwink:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7246/xmencommencement2011050.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/xmencommencement2011050.jpg/)
jaymes_e06
05-04-2011, 02:53 PM
^Sick!
I was just thinking we need some more production stills :)
lastairbender
05-04-2011, 03:42 PM
need a HD poster version..
and...what the hell are those things, like holes, they have on every x-men costume??
those costume trousers make their legs look a bit weird, in the knees...eheh
Glutton
05-04-2011, 03:49 PM
need a HD poster version..
This one's a little bigger I reckon
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/5288/28952l.jpg
X-Maniac
05-04-2011, 03:56 PM
A new character banner was sent over to us. It is huge (many megabytes) but u can see a smaller version here (http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2011/05/cool-new-banner-and-variant-po.html)
Storm22
05-04-2011, 03:57 PM
Ooh that's pretty cool. Nice to see Riptide feature.
Crockett
05-04-2011, 04:02 PM
Thanks for posting that, and it is a sweet banner.
X-Maniac
05-04-2011, 04:06 PM
Ooh that's pretty cool. Nice to see Riptide feature.
Yep, and he's even creating a little whirlwind in his hand (reminds me of Storm in the comics creating mini-weather in palm of her hand)
lastairbender
05-04-2011, 04:11 PM
Thanks Gutton!!
lastairbender
05-04-2011, 04:16 PM
Erik looks like Bond in the Banner..cool..
Havok does have some kind of blue light in his chest... I'm not getting....perhaps they changed the color at the last minute and make it blue so theres no connection to Cyclops after all...hmm i dont believe it...
def28
05-04-2011, 04:33 PM
Really liking that Banner. :up:
January and Rose are looking pretty damn good there.
A new character banner was sent over to us. It is huge (many megabytes) but u can see a smaller version here (http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2011/05/cool-new-banner-and-variant-po.html)
Awesome! :up:
Sweet Xstacy
05-04-2011, 04:45 PM
new pic just turned up :cwink:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7246/xmencommencement2011050.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/xmencommencement2011050.jpg/)
Ah Beast.
I can't think of other pics, but I'd like to think he's folding his arms because he's selfconscious of his overlarge hands?
MoPlaYa
05-04-2011, 05:46 PM
I actually think this is the best one yet.
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/xmenfrench.jpg
I think its false advertising to have Havok`s Chest glow blue. :cmad:
MoPlaYa
05-04-2011, 05:49 PM
new pic just turned up :cwink:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7246/xmencommencement2011050.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/xmencommencement2011050.jpg/)
I wonder what he is hanging upside down from? It the trailer when he does the backflip that room is really huge.
The X-Jet model, I believe.
MoPlaYa
05-04-2011, 06:06 PM
Yeah... You are probably right BMM
Deaths Head II
05-04-2011, 06:26 PM
I like how they have havok's chest glow blue even though its red in the film.
What is Beast's pre-serum Beastiness? He looks pretty normal in the footage we've seen. Is it just that he doesn't like being able to jump around and hang onto stuff?
MoPlaYa
05-04-2011, 06:35 PM
In the comics before Beast gets his fur he is very bulky, has super strength, agility, very acrobatic and can grip almost any surface with his bare feet.
Spider-Fan83
05-04-2011, 07:40 PM
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if you look at the scene from the trailer, you can see that he's jumping on to the jet model...
note, that he took off his shoes, before jumping (you can see them on the floor) so, he does use his feet for grip....
on a side note, check out the distant between the shoes and where he jumped too, he didn't just jump straight up, that was a pretty far jump...
aslo, look at the size of the those shoes... didn't he say something about wearing over size shoes on set, in an interview, cause his feet and hands were going to be cgi'd to be much bigger, or something like that....?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/wx1585/vlcsnap-2011-02-10-16h53m43s14-1.png
He's in the lab coat, you can see how big his feet are
MoPlaYa
05-04-2011, 08:10 PM
(http://img34.imageshack.us/i/image1hiu.jpg/]http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7133/image1hiu.jpg[/URL])http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7133/image1hiu.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/image1hiu.jpg/)
if you look at the scene from the trailer, you can see that he's jumping on to the jet model...
note, that he took off his shoes, before jumping (you can see them on the floor) so, he does use his feet for grip....
on a side note, check out the distant between the shoes and where he jumped too, he didn't just jump straight up, that was a pretty far jump...
aslo, look at the size of the those shoes... didn't he say something about wearing over size shoes on set, in an interview, cause his feet and hands were going to be cgi'd to be much bigger, or something like that....?
Awesome!
SuperSoldier985
05-04-2011, 08:43 PM
Nice to see they're honoring that portion of the character..
It looked like Beast in X3 had pretty normal-sized shoes, but I might be wrong..
jaymes_e06
05-04-2011, 09:04 PM
Yep, and he's even creating a little whirlwind in his hand (reminds me of Storm in the comics creating mini-weather in palm of her hand)
Yeah they should have incorperated some of that into the films. I feel Storm got the most short changed in the film series. I kept thinking throughout the Blackbird chace scene in X2 Why doesn't Storm just fly out there and zap the damn rockets with a lightning bolt and call it a day?
Deaths Head II
05-04-2011, 09:45 PM
Nice finds guys. Cool to see they're keeping the big feet.
Yeah they should have incorperated some of that into the films. I feel Storm got the most short changed in the film series. I kept thinking throughout the Blackbird chace scene in X2 Why doesn't Storm just fly out there and zap the damn rockets with a lightning bolt and call it a day?
The original concept was for her to conjure up a lightning storm but they decided that was an effect the audience has seen too much in the film and decided on the hurricanes to show another aspect to her powers.
If there's one thing I can't complain about too much, it's Storm’s power displays. She has some of the biggest, most frequent, and varied uses of power, compared to everyone else.
jaymes_e06
05-04-2011, 10:35 PM
Maybe I'm just bitter because the X-Man who got to jump out of the X-Jet and fly ended up being Banshee and not Storm. I guess I mean more about how her power of flight was used seemed to be such an afterthought (not until the X3 and never arial flight) but what's done is done I suppose.
the a1ant
05-05-2011, 01:04 AM
Her flying in X3 was ok in parts but it looked like obvious wire rig stuff...especially her first flight scene. Yikes. Hopefully Angel, Banshee, etc will fly more fluidly.
I like the blue glow they have on Havok in the new poster. I kinda wish it was that color now.
Deaths Head II
05-05-2011, 01:43 AM
I think one of the main reasons we saw so little flying in the X-Films is because it usually looked like such obvious wire work whenever we did have a character up in the air. So it was limited for things like Storm flying up the elevator shaft in X1 or whatever. Banshee's flying seems to be mostly CGI. I also imagine Azazel's tail is a lot easier to pull off with CGI nowdays then Nightcrawler's was back in during X2.
SuperSoldier985
05-05-2011, 02:36 AM
Banshee's flying seems to be mostly CGI. .
Mostly?
Half of it looks practical as hell.
craigdbfan
05-05-2011, 03:00 AM
The flying looks the best I've seen in any movie. Snyder take some tips down.
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