The Avengers: News and Speculation - Part 27A sub-se - Part 4

[RealIrOnMaN]

I dont like Iron-Pepper either. Its a horrible idea.
Absolutely! Iron Man 3 is all about Tony finally having a face-off with Mandarin & destroying all that is Ten Rings organization.

[MahvelBaby!]

Would be weird if Loki summons both Abomination and Red Skull and they all work together. Though Loki would have larger mischievous plans.

So many possibilities! Hahaha!

Maybe he just creates illusions of said villains to mess with the heroes heads?

[marvel_freshman]

I dont like Iron-Pepper either. Its a horrible idea.

Haha, exactly. Nothing more than that. A little argument would be nice right before going off to take down some Skrulls lol

[MahvelBaby!]

I could see Loki using Abomination as a bodyguard of sorts, would be cool if done right, unlike Bane in Batman & Robin :doh:

To correct my own logic fail WTH would Loki need a bodyguard? lol maybe just use him period lol

[RealIrOnMaN]

Haha, exactly. Nothing more than that. A little argument would be nice right before going off to take down some Skrulls lol
Change "Hangover Flight" scene a little bit & we're cool, lol) = http://vimeo.com/15248650

[Iron_Stark]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk4xuo8LHq1qgt35qo1_500.jpg

Well, that that's my Pepper) Not a part of my scoop though, Fresh, but still a great find) Her role needs to be like the one in Earth's Mightiest Heroes (Season 1). Pepper just needs to say a few words, kiss Tony (he'll definitely need it) & wish him good luck!

Oh, and one more thing. Dear Gwyneth, please... don't let Shane Black, Disney & Marvel Studios put a Rescue armor on you in Iron Man 3, please! Tony already has one armored friend, he doesn't need another one! Thanks.

Yours truly,
RIM.

Agreed, they didn't even need a second armored person in the movie to begin with.

Part 3 should just be Tony in the suit by himself vs Mandarin.

[Mr. Earle]

Change "Hangover Flight" scene a little bit & we're cool, lol) = http://vimeo.com/15248650
I didnt like that. RDJ overkill and it was kinda gross at the same time.

I'm glad Favreau cut it.

[RealIrOnMaN]

I didnt like that. RDJ overkill and it was kinda gross at the same time.

I'm glad Favreau cut it.
I liked it a lot, but I'm too glad, that he didn't put that particular scene in the movie.

[MahvelBaby!]

I think some of that scene could/and should have been kept I really like the catching the Helmet and putting it on part :)

[BigThor]

Oh, and one more thing. Dear Gwyneth, please... don't let Shane Black, Disney & Marvel Studios put a Rescue armor on you in Iron Man 3, please! Tony already has one armored friend, he doesn't need another one! Thanks.

Yours truly,
RIM.

I agree, I don't even like War Machine's inclusion because it takes away some of Stark's uniqueness, so I would definatley hate for him to have two.

[RealIrOnMaN]

I think some of that scene could/and should have been kept I really like the catching the Helmet and putting it on part :)
Sure, I mean, it fits with all the weird stuff, that Tony has to deal with in this movie: "Some green-faced aliens? Gods from some kind of Golden Realm? The Cosmic Cube from WWII? God, Pepper! Give me a smooch for good luck, I might not make it back!"

[Nathan]

I'm glad they didn't put the helmet catching part into the Movie. After all, he needs the helmet in the first place for navigation controls and all that stuff. And lets not forget the fireworks that were going off all over the place. Imagine some of that stuff hitting him before he has a chance to put the helmet back on.

[RealIrOnMaN]

I'm glad they didn't put the helmet catching part into the Movie. After all, he needs the helmet in the first place for navigation controls and all that stuff. And lets not forget the fireworks that were going off all over the place. Imagine some of that stuff hitting him before he has a chance to put the helmet back on.
Yes, the helmet part was weird & unreal, but the conversation, that Pepper & Tony were having inside the plane was so hilarious & so like Tony, covering some little aspects of what known as "Demon in a Bottle" story.

[MahvelBaby!]

Sure, I mean, it fits with all the weird stuff, that Tony has to deal with in this movie: "Some green-faced aliens? Gods from some kind of Golden Realm? The Cosmic Cube from WWII? God, Pepper! Give me a smooch for good luck, I might not make it back!"

A smooch from pepper is a powerful thing :cwink:

[RealIrOnMaN]

A smooch from pepper is a powerful thing :cwink:
Lol, I was trying to rewrite the scene)

[Spider-ManHero12]

Absolutely! Iron Man 3 is all about Tony finally having a face-off with Mandarin & destroying all that is Ten Rings organization. That's what I'm hoping for, lol.

[Wolvieboy17]

Fans confuse me sometimes... "I hope instead of being like Iron Man 2, where they stayed faithful to the comics including War Machine, that Iron Man 3 actually stays faithful to the comics by including Mandarin."

[RealIrOnMaN]

Fans confuse me sometimes... "I hope instead of being like Iron Man 2, where they stayed faithful to the comics including War Machine, that Iron Man 3 actually stays faithful to the comics by including Mandarin."
So true, man)

[MahvelBaby!]

After the Avengers introduces all these fantastical elements...do you think if they do Mandarin in Iron-Man 3 they will still do it tech based? And what would you prefer? Can anyone point me to a good tech based Mandarin in the comics? Would like to check it out. :)

[MahvelBaby!]

Lol, I was trying to rewrite the scene)

Lol I'd like to think before facing all these things Pepper would do better than a smooch...but ala....pg-13 :oldrazz:

[Wolvieboy17]

I actually really liked that opening. It would have been very similar in tone to IM 1. Then you could have the Stark on TV screen transition to Vanko's house, with his Dad dying and do it that way.

[RealIrOnMaN]

I actually really liked that opening. It would have been very similar in tone to IM 1. Then you could have the Stark on TV screen transition to Vanko's house, with his Dad dying and do it that way.
Yeah, that could work too, but still it was an enjoyable experience with some pretty neat moments in it. I still think, that the Suitcase Armor scene is one of the best scenes in comic book movies history.

[Wolvieboy17]

That ain't no lie. I loved IM 2

[MahvelBaby!]

^ I agree with that sentiment

[Son of Coul]

Absolutely! Iron Man 3 is all about Tony finally having a face-off with Mandarin & destroying all that is Ten Rings organization.

Hells yeah, the final showdown between Stark and his first bad guys would be a great way to end the trilogy, yet leave room for future installments when they feel like picking it back up.

[RealIrOnMaN]

Hells yeah, the final showdown between Stark and his first bad guys would be a great way to end the trilogy, yet leave room for future installments when they feel like picking it back up.
Couldn't have said it better myself) :awesome:

[BigThor]

Absolutely! Iron Man 3 is all about Tony finally having a face-off with Mandarin & destroying all that is Ten Rings organization.

Hell yeah, that would be absolutely amazing.

[BizarroAids]

Absolutely! Iron Man 3 is all about Tony finally having a face-off with Mandarin & destroying all that is Ten Rings organization.

Not that I'm complaining about the other two movies, but I think it would be great to see suit vs. mystical magic. Gives us something different for the final fight.

[Dark Raven]

It would be great if Abomination came back for the Avengers. I'd love to see Tim Roth back in the part, particularly as he has been on our tv screens in Lie To Me.

[Nathan]

Seeing Abomination Vs Thor would be nice.

[MahvelBaby!]

Maybe Loki uses abomination to keep the Avengers occupied, while he's doing very devious things :)

[protocida]

Also this begs the question....will we get actual Skrull main characters in the movie if they are indeed in? OR will they just be Loki's Lakey's with no personality? I'd imagine they'd have a main side villain from the Skrulls ala Laufey in Thor. Unless Loki is treated as the side villain just more of the puppeteer behind the scenes(As it ussually would be in the comics anyway.)
According to the leaked Script, the Skrulls have a queen called Anelle, who is impersonating Maria Hill. She's the main antagonist alongside Loki and the one to kill Coulson.

[MahvelBaby!]

Ah so the leaked script is real?

[Wolverine1988]

Pretty sure the leaked script was BS and the guy who made the story up even admitted it was bs

[Wolverine1988]

Gwyneth Paltrow Will “Probably” Appear in IRON MAN 3, and “Possibly” in THE AVENGERS

http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/gwyneth-paltrow-will-probably-appear-in-iron-man-3-and-possibly-in-the-avengers.php


Man IMO one of the reasons IM2 was such a letdown and a bad movie, was becaue of that character.

She was such a pain int he ass and a annoying character, not to mention everytime she was on screen it lead to argument with Tony Stark.

No more of Pepper Pott, or just re cast her with someone else.

Probably the worst romantic interest for a comic book hero in movies, even worst than Rachel Dawes from Nolans Batman films.

[marvel_freshman]

Man IMO one of the reasons IM2 was such a letdown and a bad movie, was becaue of that character.

She was such a pain int he ass and a annoying character, not to mention everytime she was on screen it lead to argument with Tony Stark.

No more of Pepper Pott, or just re cast her with someone else.

Probably the worst romantic interest for a comic book hero in movies, even worst than Rachel Dawes from Nolans Batman films.

I must disagree. I hate to bring up the whole "Iron Man 2 having too many characters" thing again, but it was the inclusion of Black Widow that caused Pepper to be somewhat annoying throughout IM2. In the first IM, RDJ & Paltrow created magic. But everyone has their own opinions, and that's mine.:yay:

[MahvelBaby!]

Pretty sure the leaked script was BS and the guy who made the story up even admitted it was bs

I'm happy about that didn't like alot of what the dude wrote.

[MahvelBaby!]

I must disagree. I hate to bring up the whole "Iron Man 2 having too many characters" thing again, but it was the inclusion of Black Widow that caused Pepper to be somewhat annoying throughout IM2. In the first IM, RDJ & Paltrow created magic. But everyone has their own opinions, and that's mine.:yay:

I disagree as well Iron Man 2 has really grown on me, and blaming Pepper for IM2's supposed issues is Blasphemy in my book, lol. The only real problem I had with IM2 was not enough Rourke and short final fight, thats it everything else was pretty good to great. Maybe some of the party scenes were a bit much but that I could live with in the grand scheme of things.

[Iron_Stark]

After the Avengers introduces all these fantastical elements...do you think if they do Mandarin in Iron-Man 3 they will still do it tech based? And what would you prefer? Can anyone point me to a good tech based Mandarin in the comics? Would like to check it out. :)

Why wouldn't it be tech based? There has never been anything magical about the rings.

Read the Haunted storyline, its the very best Mandarin storyline ever made.

Iron Man 3 should ne a combo of the Extremis and Haunted storylines if they want to go for the Clancey type thriller they were talking about.

[MahvelBaby!]

Cool will check it out.

[Gunga Diner]

Did anybody wind up posting a review of Whedon's script yet? His writing is the reason I'm excited for this movie.

[protocida]

No, just potential Spoilers.

[Spider-Vader]

Marvel has the Skrulls, FOX has Super Skrull.

Awww... That sucks. I really would of liked to seen Super Skrull in a movie, which is (apparently) impossible at the time.

[Mr. Earle]

According to the leaked Script, the Skrulls have a queen called Anelle, who is impersonating Maria Hill. She's the main antagonist alongside Loki and the one to kill Coulson.
Coulson dies? NOOOOO!!! :cmad:
Ah so the leaked script is real?
Its supposedly very old and there have been 2-3 revised scripts since then, so things must have changed.

[protocida]

^ But the basic plot is probably the same.

[BigThor]

Seeing Abomination Vs Thor would be nice.

I agree, I think Thor vs Abomination would be much coller than Thor vs Hulk because in this fight we can actually have a winner (hopefully Thor).

[MahvelBaby!]

Some info on The Budget for Avengers on here

Supposedly 170 mil Doesn't sound like alot but I'm not gonna jump the gun yet, could end up being quite a bit more than that though, could be an early estimate, but I'm not an expert on film budgets.

http://communitypress.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20110508/ENT02/105080324/-Avengers-film-2-weeks-here?odyssey=nav|head

[MahvelBaby!]

**************.com had the scoop but I've heard that isn't a good place to link too :)

[Sebastos]

Absolutely! Iron Man 3 is all about Tony finally having a face-off with Mandarin & destroying all that is Ten Rings organization.

100% agreed.

[catintheengine]

Ok, so this is semi-off-topic, but I think it still qualifies for this thread:

I hear a lot of people talk about what a let-down IM2 was. I've never understood this.

Is it a perfect movie? Nowhere near, but I'd hardly call it 'bad'. Ghost Rider was bad. X-Men 3 was bad. X-Men Origins: Wolverine was bad. Iron Man 2, while not quite living up to the lofty expectations of the fans, was pretty decent.

IM1 was about WHY Tony Stark built the suit and his realization that he needed to turn his life around and use his business for the betterment of mankind and that he must 'atone' for his past by using the suit for that same purpose.

IM2 was about HOW Tony Stark is learning to cope with the immense pressure of being a superhero.

Personally, I thought that the inclusion of War Machine was a nice touch. I like that Favreau also included strong implications of Tony's drinking problem. To the best of my recollection, these are both things that many fans wanted included in the second film.

But I digress.

As for The Avengers - I think we'll learn a bit more about Tony (maybe even see his drinking problem surface a bit more). Personally, I don't want this to just be a movie where all the characters meet up in the first act and then spend the rest of the movie defeating baddies up until the end credits. That's what we got with G.I. Joe.

Do we really want to have to come back here after The Avengers and compare it to G.I. Joe? I don't think so.

I expect, and hope, that we will see a lot of exposition in the movie. We'll see things like Tony, a man of science, having to learn to deal with the fact that there's a guy (Thor) who has seemingly mystical powers. We'll see Steve Rogers adjust to living in a world that's progressed 70 years without him.

I don't know, it was a bit of a rant, but I hope it at least made a bit of sense. I know I can't be the only one out there hoping for a great story along with great action.

[MahvelBaby!]

^ You sir GET IT! :awesome:

Wholeheartedly agree, I actually used to like IM2 Now I LOVE it.

[MahvelBaby!]

The Thor/Iron Man dynamic is one I'm most looking forward too, that's why I hope Asgard shows up in the movie, and Tony see's it with his own eyes.

[BigThor]

Some info on The Budget for Avengers on here

Supposedly 170 mil Doesn't sound like alot but I'm not gonna jump the gun yet, could end up being quite a bit more than that though, could be an early estimate, but I'm not an expert on film budgets.

http://communitypress.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20110508/ENT02/105080324/-Avengers-film-2-weeks-here?odyssey=nav|head

I'm positive that the budget is going to be higher than that, because that was the budget for IM2 and Kevin Feige said that this film is gonna be much more expensive than anything they've ever done.

[catintheengine]

I also think that the Iron Man/Thor interaction will be interesting to watch play out, but personally I'm really looking forward to how Tony Stark and Steve Rogers react to one another's personalities.

I do think that the wild card is going to be Bruce Banner, though. Call it an early prediction, if you will, but I expect we'll see Banner somewhat ostracized by the others (primarily Stark) and then he'll end up playing a MAJOR role in saving the day at the end.

I also expect that the production budget on The Avengers will be somewhere above 200 million. This isn't just a movie. This isn't just a summer blockbuster. This is an event.

To quote John Hammond: "We've spared no expense."

[alexlachiusa]

I'm positive that the budget is going to be higher than that, because that was the budget for IM2 and Kevin Feige said that this film is gonna be much more expensive than anything they've ever done.
Yeah I could of sworn that I read that the budget was more around the $200 million mark.

[Adamantium Man]

I also think that the Iron Man/Thor interaction will be interesting to watch play out, but personally I'm really looking forward to how Tony Stark and Steve Rogers react to one another's personalities.

I do think that the wild card is going to be Bruce Banner, though. Call it an early prediction, if you will, but I expect we'll see Banner somewhat ostracized by the others (primarily Stark) and then he'll end up playing a MAJOR role in saving the day at the end.

Heh. I expect the exact opposite. Since they're both men of science, I expect Stark and Banner to get along well, at least compared to Stark - Rogers (Futurist vs man of the past) and Stark - Thor (technocrat vs god). I can even see Stark and Banner commiserating ("The man doesn't know how to use a cell phone!" - "I know, and have you seen what Thor's hammer does? It defies the laws of physics!" - "I need a drink." - "Me too.") Looking forward to how all this will play out. :woot:

[BigThor]

The Thor/Iron Man dynamic is one I'm most looking forward too, that's why I hope Asgard shows up in the movie, and Tony see's it with his own eyes.

Agreed, I'm also looking forward to the Thor/Iron Man dynamic more than the Iron Man/Cap dynamic.

[itchyscratch]

Any chance of a group drinking competition in this movie? Who do you think would win?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Agreed, I'm also looking forward to the Thor/Iron Man dynamic more than the Iron Man/Cap dynamic. I'm looking foward to both equally, tbh. It's going to fantastic, that's for sure.

[Mr. Earle]

I'm mostly looking to see Cap and Tony have a bromance.

[Jerkofwonder]

Any chance of a group drinking competition in this movie? Who do you think would win?

Cap of course! Alcohol doesn't affect him. I really wanna see the Cap Hulk dynamic, as Hulk is the result of Cap's success. Also Cap and Tony stuff about Tony's dad.

[Mr. Earle]

- I knew your father, he was a good guy. You are a douche Tony.
- :( Y U NO LOVE ME CAP?

[Whiskey Tango]

- I knew your father, he was a good guy. You are a douche Tony.
- :( Y U NO LOVE ME CAP?

Thor: LOL u mad?

[Mr. Earle]

Forever alone.

[ArtTeacher]

If you choose to spin it that way .... :doh:

What am I spinning? Perhaps you can enlighten me, since the original poster, Midguard777, hasn't shown up to reply; please show in-continuity examples.

What hasn't Thor done in Marvel continuity?

Well, Midgard777 said Thor should, "Hand the Hulks Backside to him on a platter." Perhaps I missed "The Platter Issue", but I don't remember that happening.

[Whiskey Tango]

What am I spinning? Perhaps you can enlighten me, since the original poster, Midguard777, hasn't shown up to reply; please show in-continuity examples.

Well, Midgard777 said Thor should, "Hand the Hulks Backside to him on a platter." Perhaps I missed "The Platter Issue", but I don't remember that happening.

Jesus, do you ever not get offended over this crap? Who cares what that guy said? Does it somehow ruin all Hulk comics for you forever? You sound like a little kid. :down

[MahvelBaby!]

I wonder how Hawkeye will be accepted by the others? :/

[Moridin]

I do think that the wild card is going to be Bruce Banner, though. Call it an early prediction, if you will, but I expect we'll see Banner somewhat ostracized by the others (primarily Stark) and then he'll end up playing a MAJOR role in saving the day at the end.

Ruffalo has talked a little about the Stark/Banner relation ship.
"He's like the fallen-angel version of Tony Stark," Ruffalo told us of Banner, "He was the renegade professor who was kind of a rebel, arrogant, doing things that were unorthodox. There's a real admiration between the two of them that's interesting."
"Tony Stark really enjoys the idea of watching this guy turn into the Hulk," Ruffalo revealed. "He's nudging him in an interesting sort of way. There's a lot of nice, fun play between the two of them."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1663086/avengers-mark-ruffalo-bruce-banner-tony-stark.jhtml

[ArtTeacher]

Jesus, do you ever not get offended over this crap? Who cares what that guy said? Does it somehow ruin all Hulk comics for you forever? You sound like a little kid. :down

Do you always criticize people for things you are more guilty of?
Do you always attack the poster and not the issue?

And considering that you're the guy that crafts posts like this one:

LMAO I keep forgetting that the only difference between Hulk fans and Batman fans is that Batman fans have enjoyed substantial success in the movie industry. Shine on, you crazy green diamonds.

Speaking of sounding like a little kid...
You have no credibility or room to talk.
It's like Adolf Hitler calling someone a monster for jaywalking.
I've seen less negativity from inmates on death row.
And who said I was offended? Someone asked a question; I answered. Ooooh--let's notify the police.
Talk about derailing a thread--we were actually talking about...you know...the Avengers before you came in insulting a person, instead of...you know...staying on topic.

You did surprise me, though--you actually constructed a post without the word, "butthurt" in it; I'm impressed.

Now, is this the 'Hulk in Avengers' thread, or the "Boo hoo Whiskey Tango said things we don't like (but are true!) about our favorite sooper hero and we're gonna pout about it" thread?

Well, I guess *I* have to ask, is this the 'Hulk in Avengers' thread, or the "Boo hoo ArtTeacher said things I don't like (but are true!) about our favorite sooper hero and we're gonna pout about it" thread?

[Brian Braddock]

Sorry Art, but it has to be said seeing how you've made an issue out of it - in terms of credibility [on here], Whiskey Tango blows you out of the water.

[Cth]

Ruffalo has talked a little about the Stark/Banner relation ship.
"He's like the fallen-angel version of Tony Stark," Ruffalo told us of Banner, "He was the renegade professor who was kind of a rebel, arrogant, doing things that were unorthodox. There's a real admiration between the two of them that's interesting."
"Tony Stark really enjoys the idea of watching this guy turn into the Hulk," Ruffalo revealed. "He's nudging him in an interesting sort of way. There's a lot of nice, fun play between the two of them."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1663086/avengers-mark-ruffalo-bruce-banner-tony-stark.jhtml

Yeah, and Banner/Hulk lends itself to Downey's brand of improv/jokes.

I hope there's a scene like AMH between Cap and Hulk.

[Quasimod0]

I wonder how Hawkeye will be accepted by the others? :/

they may doubt a regular agent with a bow..until they see him use it

[Brian Braddock]

Hawkeye's a badass in EMH - the way he took Black Widow down in the Hydra hideout was awesome.

A display like that would go along way to convince them, although I think they'd most likely have to already assume that Clint was there on merit and not just to make up the numbers given that he's on the group and his arsenal is literally just a bow.

''What do you mean all he need's is that bow? Wow, he must be good.''

[ArtTeacher]

Sorry Art, but it has to be said - in terms of credibility [on here], Whiskey Tnago blows you out of the water.

No sorries needed; you never need apologize for your preference or opinion.

My preference, though, is not for posts like these, that's all:

So, for those of you without a stick up their ass,

you're currently too busy with your snotty tone, so piss off.

LOL yeah like your post really adds something to the conversation.

Jesus,

You sound like a little kid. :down

[protocida]

^ We know that Hawkeye will have a somewhat romantic relationship with Black Widow (which is apparently a love triangle also including Bruce Banner). I expect him to be bros with Stark and Thor and butt heads with Captain America like in the comics.

[Quasimod0]

People on the internet are so serious

[ArtTeacher]

*ahem*
Getting back on topic... :)

(I guess technically there are vague spoilers for Thor below, if you haven't seen it, yet):

Having seen how powerful Thor was in his debut movie (dispatching Frost Giants fairly easily and quickly beating the Destroyer--which the Warriors Three and Sif could do nothing to), do you think The Avengers movie will run into the same problem that the Avengers comic has in the past? Meaning, they had to make Thor appear less powerful in the team book than in his own solo book since many of the threats the Avengers faced, Thor could just beat by himself and not need Hawkeye, or Cap, or Giant Man, etc.

(We could also make a similar comparison to Superman in the JLA versus his own book.)

Or will they make the villain/threat that much more menacing that even the mighty Mjolnir-wielding Thor will need the help of Earth's mightiest?

[Quasimod0]

Hopefully the latter

[jadejaws]

Sorry Art, but it has to be said seeing how you've made an issue out of it - in terms of credibility [on here], Whiskey Tango blows you out of the water.

How does one define credibility on the hype forums?

[protocida]

The menace should be big enough for Thor not to overpower it alone.

[The Morningstar]

THANOS!!!!!!






Please?

[WildcatNC]

How does one define credibility on the hype forums?


Post count and length of familiarity. Same as any other message board. :woot:

[Brian Braddock]

How does one define credibility on the hype forums?

General rule of thumb for me is to use such variables as the number of insightfull, engageing and noteworthy posts submitted, the timespan said poster has been making such posts as well as how popular [and generally accepted] with the main body of posters that particular poster is, in that (simply put) if they are talking absolute rubbish 24/7, people arent going to give a damn what they are talking about.

Ergo, more credibility i.e. what they say is generally going to be more readilly accepted by people on here - like there are people who post things and you listen just as there are people on here [like The Mayor] who could post until the cows come home and no-one would give them the time of day.

N.B. I'd highlight that I'm certainly not referencing ArtTeacher when I talk about rubbish posts as a lot of what he says couldnt be further from being rubbish; my reaction was merely to someone saying that the credibility of a poster as respected and generally well-liked as Whiskey Tango was suspect.

[Iceman]

*ahem*
Getting back on topic... :)

(I guess technically there are vague spoilers for Thor below, if you haven't seen it, yet):

Having seen how powerful Thor was in his debut movie (dispatching Frost Giants fairly easily and quickly beating the Destroyer--which the Warriors Three and Sif could do nothing to), do you think The Avengers movie will run into the same problem that the Avengers comic has in the past? Meaning, they had to make Thor appear less powerful in the team book than in his own solo book since many of the threats the Avengers faced, Thor could just beat by himself and not need Hawkeye, or Cap, or Giant Man, etc.

(We could also make a similar comparison to Superman in the JLA versus his own book.)

Or will they make the villain/threat that much more menacing that even the mighty Mjolnir-wielding Thor will need the help of Earth's mightiest?I think they'll give (film)Hulk an upgrade to Thor level & Iron Man can be made to look pretty powerful from the skies with superior armours & devastating weaponry (like that laser he used to finish the droid fight). Outside of those 3 the others have completely different less power-based skills & attributes so I think it should be possible to balance the team effectively.

[Brian Braddock]

Post count and length of familiarity. Same as any other message board. :woot:

Hmm, not a bad formulae at all. :woot:

[Spider-ManHero12]

Ruffalo has talked a little about the Stark/Banner relation ship.
"He's like the fallen-angel version of Tony Stark," Ruffalo told us of Banner, "He was the renegade professor who was kind of a rebel, arrogant, doing things that were unorthodox. There's a real admiration between the two of them that's interesting."
"Tony Stark really enjoys the idea of watching this guy turn into the Hulk," Ruffalo revealed. "He's nudging him in an interesting sort of way. There's a lot of nice, fun play between the two of them."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1663086/avengers-mark-ruffalo-bruce-banner-tony-stark.jhtml lol, awesome. I'm actually not that surprised Tony gets a kick out of it.

[mclay18]

Seems like Whedon and DP Seamus McGarvey aren't shooting The Avengers with the Red Epic like the camera test reports indicated. Seems like they switched over to the Arri Alexa digital camera.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/technical

[Dr Lee]

I wouldn't use IMDB to confirm that....

[Mercurius]

General rule of thumb for me is to use such variables as the number of insightfull, engageing and noteworthy posts submitted, the timespan said poster has been making such posts as well as how popular [and generally accepted] with the main body of posters that particular poster is, in that (simply put) if they are talking absolute rubbish 24/7, people arent going to give a damn what they are talking about.

Ergo, more credibility i.e. what they say is generally going to be more readilly accepted by people on here - like there are people who post things and you listen just as there are people on here [like The Mayor] who could post until the cows come home and no-one would give them the time of day.

N.B. I'd highlight that I'm certainly not referencing ArtTeacher when I talk about rubbish posts as a lot of what he says couldnt be further from being rubbish; my reaction was merely to someone saying that the credibility of a poster as respected and generally well-liked as Whiskey Tango was suspect.

Credibility has nothing to do with being popular or "accepted".

Credibility is making good points (doesn't matter if I or anyone else here agree), being reliable when displaying info., and not making personal attacks, or labeling an opponent.

"Being accepted" is just getting bullies together to bash the difference. It's the old herd behaviour in practice.

[wobbly]

lol, awesome. I'm actually not that surprised Tony gets a kick out of it.

Lol. I can imagine it...

IM: "So Bruce...there's the bad guys....you gonna change now?"
Banner: "I'm really trying not to"
IM: "Come on, it's awesome...Please?"
Banner: "NO!"
IM: "You know, Betty does the most amazing thing with her.."
Hulk: "RARRRHGGHH!!"

IM (running away): "That never gets old..."

[Crimson King]

*ahem*
Getting back on topic... :)

(I guess technically there are vague spoilers for Thor below, if you haven't seen it, yet):

Having seen how powerful Thor was in his debut movie (dispatching Frost Giants fairly easily and quickly beating the Destroyer--which the Warriors Three and Sif could do nothing to), do you think The Avengers movie will run into the same problem that the Avengers comic has in the past? Meaning, they had to make Thor appear less powerful in the team book than in his own solo book since many of the threats the Avengers faced, Thor could just beat by himself and not need Hawkeye, or Cap, or Giant Man, etc.

(We could also make a similar comparison to Superman in the JLA versus his own book.)

Or will they make the villain/threat that much more menacing that even the mighty Mjolnir-wielding Thor will need the help of Earth's mightiest?

Thor (like the equally-overpowered Superman) has always been weak to magic. Seeing as how Loki is involved, there's certain to be some form of magic to keep him in check.

That being said, I hope like hell that Thor and Hulk get sent after one of the bigger threats in the movie. I want to see what the two of them could do to a single foe.

[Raiden]

Thor (like the equally-overpowered Superman) has always been weak to magic. Seeing as how Loki is involved, there's certain to be some form of magic to keep him in check.

That being said, I hope like hell that Thor and Hulk get sent after one of the bigger threats in the movie. I want to see what the two of them could do to a single foe.

Since Loki will be the primary villain in the Avengers, I won't worry too much about Thor getting too powerful since I'm sure that Loki would find a way to deal against his brother. Loki will find a way to stack the chips in his favor.

[SuperSAINT]

Banner's on set: Be well all. Have a great week. Back on Avengers tomorrow.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Lol. I can imagine it...

IM: "So Bruce...there's the bad guys....you gonna change now?"
Banner: "I'm really trying not to"
IM: "Come on, it's awesome...Please?"
Banner: "NO!"
IM: "You know, Betty does the most amazing thing with her.."
Hulk: "RARRRHGGHH!!"

IM (running away): "That never gets old..." :woot:

[GhostPoet]

*ahem*
Getting back on topic... :)

(I guess technically there are vague spoilers for Thor below, if you haven't seen it, yet):

Having seen how powerful Thor was in his debut movie (dispatching Frost Giants fairly easily and quickly beating the Destroyer--which the Warriors Three and Sif could do nothing to), do you think The Avengers movie will run into the same problem that the Avengers comic has in the past? Meaning, they had to make Thor appear less powerful in the team book than in his own solo book since many of the threats the Avengers faced, Thor could just beat by himself and not need Hawkeye, or Cap, or Giant Man, etc.

(We could also make a similar comparison to Superman in the JLA versus his own book.)

Or will they make the villain/threat that much more menacing that even the mighty Mjolnir-wielding Thor will need the help of Earth's mightiest?


I think they are slowly showing us that there is a growing threat that is going to take them ALL joined together to tackle. We know the Cosmic Cube and Loki are involved, we just don't know his plan. It could be he is working with an even more powerful enemy.

On a side note...I would love to see Loki take over Stark's armor...without him even in it and then Stark is basically trying to dodge his own armors attacks. :) Then the other Avengers have to fight the Iron Man armor.

[Whiskey Tango]

Do you always criticize people blah bah blah

I call 'em like I see em. Truth hurts bro.

[Crimson King]

On a side note...I would love to see Loki take over Stark's armor...without him even in it and then Stark is basically trying to dodge his own armors attacks. :) Then the other Avengers have to fight the Iron Man armor.

They did that on A:EMH and it was pretty cool. Actually, most of those storylines would be great to see on screen.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I just love the possiblities involving Loki and the entire team. I have a feeling Loki's going to return with a bang in the Avengers.

[Iceman]

Thor (like the equally-overpowered Superman) has always been weak to magic. Seeing as how Loki is involved, there's certain to be some form of magic to keep him in check.

That being said, I hope like hell that Thor and Hulk get sent after one of the bigger threats in the movie. I want to see what the two of them could do to a single foe.Yes! :word:

Ruffalo has talked a little about the Stark/Banner relation ship.
"He's like the fallen-angel version of Tony Stark," Ruffalo told us of Banner, "He was the renegade professor who was kind of a rebel, arrogant, doing things that were unorthodox. There's a real admiration between the two of them that's interesting."
"Tony Stark really enjoys the idea of watching this guy turn into the Hulk," Ruffalo revealed. "He's nudging him in an interesting sort of way. There's a lot of nice, fun play between the two of them."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1663086/avengers-mark-ruffalo-bruce-banner-tony-stark.jhtmlVery interesting. Glad to see Hulk naturally bond (& fight) with one of the team.

[Whiskey Tango]

Man somebody posted Hawkeye clips in one of the other threads last night (or maybe it was this one) and I cheesed out and watched them. Awesome! Renner's cool as hell - I'm looking forward to him playing Hawkeye nearly as much as anyone else.

[Rock Sexton]

Will they attempt to include the antidote from TIH when the team tries to coral the Hulk? Based on what I've seen of SHIELD in these movies too far, seeing them confiscating that in TIH would've been clutch.

[Doctor Jones]

It's cool to hear Stark will try to get Banner to change. I can just imagine it. Maybe he'll hit him or something and do something that may not be in agreement with the rest of the team.

[Moridin]

Will they attempt to include the anecdote from TIH when the team tries to coral the Hulk? Based on what I've seen of SHIELD in these movies too far, seeing them confiscating that in TIH would've been clutch.

Could you elaborate? Not entirely sure what you're referring to.

It's cool to hear Stark will try to get Banner to change. I can just imagine it. Maybe he'll hit him or something and do something that may not be in agreement with the rest of the team.

lol yeah, seeing Stark trolling Banner should be entertaining.

[Rock Sexton]

Could you elaborate? Not entirely sure what you're referring to.

I was saying how I'd be curious to see if Whedon decides to involve the temporary antidote (I think I accidentally said anecdote up there) that Sterns was able to use to suppress the Hulk out in TIH.

Then I also made a comment about how nice it would've been to have had SHIELD in the TIH movie, perhaps confiscating said antidote. They could still say something in The Avengers that mentions that they did.

[Quasimod0]

TIH didnt have much shield at all. just a mention of them and fury. thats too bad

[Spider-ManHero12]

Man somebody posted Hawkeye clips in one of the other threads last night (or maybe it was this one) and I cheesed out and watched them. Awesome! Renner's cool as hell - I'm looking forward to him playing Hawkeye nearly as much as anyone else. When I saw that scene in the theater, an uncontrollable grin emerged on my face. Renner will kick ass as Hawkeye.

[Dr Lee]

I thought the Hawkeye cameo was a bit of a waste.... kinda felt tacked on as well

[Wolvieboy17]

Lol my friend and I have an inhouse joke from a Youtube video we found, of two guys playing 'Captain America and The Avengers' on Sega Genesis, and one of them is yelling "What the ****, WHY AM I HAWKEYE?"

We went and saw Thor together, and he didn't know about the cameo, and when Hawkeye appears I turn to him, ready to say it, when somewhere from up the back of the theatre we both hear someone else say "WHY AM I HAWKEYE?"

Needless to say, we laughed uncontrollably through most of that scene.

[protocida]

The Destroyer could come back. Hulk VS. Destroyer, you know you'd give money to see it.

[Mr. Earle]

Lol my friend and I have an inhouse joke from a Youtube video we found, of two guys playing 'Captain America and The Avengers' on Sega Genesis, and one of them is yelling "What the ****, WHY AM I HAWKEYE?"

We went and saw Thor together, and he didn't know about the cameo, and when Hawkeye appears I turn to him, ready to say it, when somewhere from up the back of the theatre we both hear someone else say "WHY AM I HAWKEYE?"

Needless to say, we laughed uncontrollably through most of that scene.:funny: Hahaha!

[Crimson King]

The Destroyer could come back. Hulk VS. Destroyer, you know you'd give money to see it.

Not since he got punked by Thor in about five seconds. I loved the movie, but that fight was WAY too short.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I thought the Hawkeye cameo was a bit of a waste.... kinda felt tacked on as well In what way? I thought it fit in perfectly. Especially with the fact that Agent Coulson was pretty much radioing for him.

[Dr Lee]

In what way? I thought it fit in perfectly. Especially with the fact that Agent Coulson was pretty much radioing for him.

it was the fact he appeared from seeming nowhere... then vanished again.... i think they should have had him pop up somewhere else in addition... maybe when the Shield guys met the Destroyer IMHO.... or have him the one taking the research stuff off Foster

[Kirmit]

The Destroyer could come back. Hulk VS. Destroyer, you know you'd give money to see it.

Not if it's the same destoyer from 'Thor', Hulk would waste him with one hit.

[Moridin]

I was saying how I'd be curious to see if Whedon decides to involve the temporary antidote (I think I accidentally said anecdote up there) that Sterns was able to use to suppress the Hulk out in TIH.

Then I also made a comment about how nice it would've been to have had SHIELD in the TIH movie, perhaps confiscating said antidote. They could still say something in The Avengers that mentions that they did.

Ah, gotcha.
Yeah well spotted actually. It would make sense that SHEILD would have sent in a team to see what they could find.

[Spider-ManHero12]

it was the fact he appeared from seeming nowhere... then vanished again.... i think they should have had him pop up somewhere else in addition... maybe when the Shield guys met the Destroyer IMHO.... or have him the one taking the research stuff off Foster Ehh, I dsagree, but to each his own. I'm just happy we got to see him ahead of time.

Btw, guys, do you think they'll be filming the cast of the Avengers outside at any point?

[Danalys]

TIH didnt have much shield at all. just a mention of them and fury. thats too bad

they used shield wire taps. that film was mostly referencing the MCU through various logos on tech and a bit of discussion of human enhancement formulas. and the stark cameo referencing the avengers. i think we can assume coulson was busy in mexico at this time and they used the military or other agents to capture any materials they wanted.

ironman 2 references the beginnings of shield and howard stark quite a bit, as well as black widow and fury.

thor uses coulson as the bridge but hints with hawkeye and treasures to greater things.

and that's after the original iron man established shield and coulson as something existing in that world and the prospect of a team in the stinger.

[BigThor]

Not if it's the same destoyer from 'Thor', Hulk would waste him with one hit.

No he wouldn't, the Destroyer was defeated by sending it's blast back into it's body. You see how it barely flinched when it was hit by that car, just because the fight was short doesn't mean it wasn't powerful.

There really wasn't much melee fighting against The Destroyer anyways and TIH's Hulk definately doesn't seem like he could that much damage with one blow.

[Kirmit]

No he wouldn't, the Destroyer was defeated by sending it's blast back into it's body. You see how it barely flinched when it was hit by that car, just because the fight was short doesn't mean it wasn't powerful.

There really wasn't much melee fighting against The Destroyer anyways and TIH's Hulk definately doesn't seem like he could that much damage with one blow.

Ok one hit is an exaggeration but it wouldn't take much, Abomination seemed like a much bigger threat and more powerful than the destroyer and Hulk dealt with him.

[Crimson King]

No he wouldn't, the Destroyer was defeated by sending it's blast back into it's body. You see how it barely flinched when it was hit by that car, just because the fight was short doesn't mean it wasn't powerful.

There really wasn't much melee fighting against The Destroyer anyways and TIH's Hulk definately doesn't seem like he could that much damage with one blow.

I thought it was defeated with a hammer shot to the head. It was definitely crushed when it fell to earth. Hulk could easily do that.

[Danalys]

the best comparison is hulk smash verses hammer blow to the floor. but i think ice breaks easier than concrete. also hulks kick on a enhanced mortal compared to the destroyers attack on a mortal could be compared.

[Atomicchuck3k]

Not since he got punked by Thor in about five seconds. I loved the movie, but that fight was WAY too short.

Agreed

[Spideyfan93]

Just to let people know, TDKR supposed info has been released. It involves an alter in Bane's motives as a villain and origin and everyone is losing their ****!

I hope this thread never becomes what that wretched place is.

[Crimson King]

Not sure that's possible S93. The Bat boards are a special brand of...unique.

[Rock Sexton]

I thought the Hawkeye cameo was a bit of a waste.... kinda felt tacked on as well

As I brought up and many others after me, what if it was agent Anderson portrayed by some unknown actor. Would that part feel forced then? No.

Anyone complaining about the Hawkeye cameo is simply doing so out of greed.

[BigThor]

I thought it was defeated with a hammer shot to the head. It was definitely crushed when it fell to earth. Hulk could easily do that.

No, Thor deflected it's enery beam back down into it's facial opening caused it to shut down, it's body was still completely intact when he fell to the ground (it wasn't crushed at all).

Destroyer's energy beam >>> Hulk's fist

[Dr Lee]

As I brought up and many others after me, what if it was agent Anderson portrayed by some unknown actor. Would that part feel forced then? No.

Anyone complaining about the Hawkeye cameo is simply doing so out of greed.

greed? How????:huh::huh:

[BigThor]

Ok one hit is an exaggeration but it wouldn't take much, Abomination seemed like a much bigger threat and more powerful than the destroyer and Hulk dealt with him.

Nah, Hulk was struggling to hold his own for most the fight, he won the fight but just barely.

Some of you are acting as if Thor just walked up to the Destroyer and went upside his head with a hammer, no he created a TORNADO and flew towards the Destroyer at high speeds reflecting it's blast down it's facial opening.

[Rock Sexton]

greed? How????:huh::huh:

Because you wanted more!

Nothing about the incident or anything he was doing during that sequence (which lasted a pretty long time for a cameo) was out of place. It's just the fact that it's Hawkeye portrayed by a famous actor named Jeremy Renner that people b*tch.

It's quite honestly the worst complaint I've seen in my entire time on this website. There's just no merit to it whatsoever. So again I ask, if it was agent Anderson played by some unknown - is the scene now forced?

[marcvader]

I wouldn't say just barely. He beat the crap out of Abomb at the end of the fight once he really got angry.

[Wolvieboy17]

I actually partially agree with Dr Lee. I don't think Hawkeye was forced, but I definitely think he could have appeared again. He may as well have been the shield agent who confiscated Fosters research, and just seeing him stand in the background would have been cool. I just assume he wasn't available for all the filming.

[Danalys]

with the bonus of fans getting a look at his portrayal.

he wasn't forced but he could be confusing. there's suddenly a guy who prefers a bow in the scene.

[Dr Lee]

Because you wanted more!

Nothing about the incident or anything he was doing during that sequence (which lasted a pretty long time for a cameo) was out of place. It's just the fact that it's Hawkeye portrayed by a famous actor named Jeremy Renner that people b*tch.

It's quite honestly the worst complaint I've seen in my entire time on this website. There's just no merit to it whatsoever. So again I ask, if it was agent Anderson played by some unknown - is the scene now forced?

for me it was the fact that, in a small outpost like the one around the hammer.... and in such a remote location... to have a character that will be big in the franchise just suddenly appear, then disappear... it didn't make sense to me... for me it doesn't matter if it's bruce ****ing willis or some kid from Kansas playing him...

[BigThor]

I wouldn't say just barely. He beat the crap out of Abomb at the end of the fight once he really got angry.

What movie were you watching?

The only things he did after he got angry was slamming Abomination's head into a wall then choking him out with a chain and he struggled alot with the chain choke.

[Rock Sexton]

for me it was the fact that, in a small outpost like the one around the hammer.... and in such a remote location... to have a character that will be big in the franchise just suddenly appear, then disappear... it didn't make sense to me... for me it doesn't matter if it's bruce ****ing willis or some kid from Kansas playing him...

What's wrong with the small outpost? They put an eye in the sky.

Again, this boils down to the name. Not that there was anything wrong with the scene. The movie was about Thor, not Hawkeye. It was never advertised that he'd have a larger role like say Black Widow in IM2. The scene was what it was. It was Renner giving you a taste of what's to come with him. Anything more you wanted of it was just fan greed.

It's so funny how that works. You get something bad azz like his cameo and people whine about it when it did what it was supposed to do - get you psyched and wanting more.

[Dr Lee]

I actually partially agree with Dr Lee. I don't think Hawkeye was forced, but I definitely think he could have appeared again. He may as well have been the shield agent who confiscated Fosters research, and just seeing him stand in the background would have been cool. I just assume he wasn't available for all the filming.

There is also the fact that Coulsen is obviously in charge of the facility.... so he decides to have a jaunt out to a local... whatever that place Foster & co were based in..... to pick up some stuff...

Made sense (To me) to send out a guy.... and why not send Hawkeye and as you say Danalys, we'd get to see a little bit more of his character before Avengers...

ATM... he isn't really much more than a grunt who likes to use a Bow and ride in strange contraptions

[Rock Sexton]

There is also the fact that Coulsen is obviously in charge of the facility.... so he decides to have a jaunt out to a local... whatever that place Foster & co were based in..... to pick up some stuff...

Made sense (To me) to send out a guy.... and why not send Hawkeye and as you say Danalys, we'd get to see a little bit more of his character before Avengers...

ATM... he isn't really much more than a grunt who likes to use a Bow and ride in strange contraptions

A grunt? Wow. Is Widow a grunt when Fury tells her what to do?

http://204.45.110.156/bin/1232550426_worf%20face%20palm.gif

[ArtTeacher]

What movie were you watching?

The only things he did after he got angry was slamming Abomination's head into a wall then choking him out with a chain and he struggled quite bit with the chain choke.

Don't forget the Hulk pulled one of the Abomination's bones out of his body and then stabbed him with it.

I still can't believe we got a movie in which the Hulk...pulled a bone out of a villain's body and beat him with it!

Ah....good times.

I ruined and had to pay for a seat in the movie theater after that scene, but it was well worth it!

*Hulk giddiness over*

[Dr Lee]

As i get the feeling you are arguing for the sake of it atm i'm going to back off before this gets over the top.

But i will say that my comments about the Hawkeye cameo has NOTHING to do with character Greed...

[Wolvieboy17]

Not really a fair comparison Rock, since Widow gets ALOT more development than Hawkeye.

I actually think he could have played that role to Coulson, but then more people would be here complaining, saying it's 'IM 2' all over again. You can't win.

[marcvader]

What movie were you watching?

The only things he did after he got angry was slamming Abomination's head into a wall then choking him out with a chain and he struggled quite bit with the chain choke.

That's not "barely" in my book. Barely is how Iron Man beat Iron Monger, pummeled and having to rely on another help. In a physical fight the Hulk will eventually overcome what ever you do to him with a dominant flourish. That's the Hulk's m o.

[Rock Sexton]

Not really a fair comparison Rock, since Widow gets ALOT more development than Hawkeye.

Oh I know. I said that earlier. My comment was in contradiction to the "Hawkeye gets told what to do so he's a grunt" thing ..... Fury gave Widow orders, I wouldn't call her a grunt. A grunt is one of those name-less SHIELD agents who got their face punched in by Thor.

I actually think he could have played that role to Coulson, but then more people would be here complaining, saying it's 'IM 2' all over again. You can't win.

I could totally see that and yeah, I could hear people moan about the IM2 thing ..... especially with how well Renner portrayed Hawkeye there was a possibility of over-saturating a movie with a lot of characters already. Regardless, even though he didn't get to play that kind of role I can't find it in me to take away from what purpose he served.

[BigThor]

That's not "barely" in my book. Barely is how Iron Man beat Iron Monger, pummeled and having to rely on another help. In a physical fight the Hulk will eventually overcome what ever you do to him with a dominant flourish. That's the Hulk's m o.

Nah it's still barely, because he was losing for most of the fight and he still struggled to choke Abomination even with Abomination's foot being stuck in the ground.

Iron Man didn't beat Iron Monger at all, he lost, just like Optimus did against Megatron in TF1.

[BigThor]

Double post

[marcvader]

To each his own

[Danalys]

abomination had the advantage of blonsky's experience where as the hulk was reluctant to fight and then eventually mad enough to give it his all and as soon as he did things were over.

[BigThor]

^ You don't use cars as boxing gloves when you're "reluctant" to fight.

[Dr Lee]

Oh I know. I said that earlier. My comment was in contradiction to the "Hawkeye gets told what to do so he's a grunt" thing ..... Fury gave Widow orders, I wouldn't call her a grunt. A grunt is one of those name-less SHIELD agents who got their face punched in by Thor.

Okay... maybe labelling the way i did wasn't the best term to use... but atm, to the general audience... Hawkeye is just some dude who uses a Bow instead of a sniper.

having him appear in another scene (Like being the one to take the Foster stuff) would show the general audience that he's not just some dude who likes a bow over a sniper, and show them that he is someone who is important somehow....

[Wolvieboy17]

Thor was a tease, Avengers will be his debut and proper introduction. Giving him more to do would have been confusing if he wasn't explained properly. It's perfectly fine this way. To the audience, he was just a Shield agent who clearly had attitude. It's no different to Colossus in X2. He was just one of the mutants, to the GA audience it made perfect sense, to the fans it was a taste of things to come (shame that went downhill though)

[Rock Sexton]

having him appear in another scene (Like being the one to take the Foster stuff) would show the general audience that he's not just some dude who likes a bow over a sniper, and show them that he is someone who is important somehow....

So two quick scenes creates more importance? IMO it would take a whole heckuva lot more than that.

The movie "Thor" wasn't created to portray his importance in the way you desire it to be done. He was a glorified easter egg. A small taste that many people who saw the movie who will see The Avengers WILL be able to recognize.

It's not like he was spotted walking thru the hallways or referred to like Selvig referred to Bruce Banner. Coulson actually called him by name, unlike any of the other agents. He had multiple speaking lines and he had his trademark bow.

[Dr Lee]

he was called Barton not Hawkeye (IIRC)... so the general audience, who don't know the ins & outs of the MCU (Something i was until VERY recently) he is just a guy called barton who has an attitude...

*Sighs*

You know what.... it's 20 past midnight here... and i can't be bothered anymore... enjoy being a troll Rock.

[Danalys]

^ You don't use cars as boxing gloves when you're "reluctant" to fight.

the hulk does.

[Wolvieboy17]

He's hardly being a troll (in this case anyway). They're valid points. Why would he need to be Hawkeye? Does it matter if the GA audience don't appreciate his significance in the MCU if they WILL in the Avengers?

[Wolvieboy17]

the hulk does.

You're making me reluctant. You won't like me when i'm reluctant.

[Wolvieboy17]

the hulk does.

You're making me reluctant. You won't like me when i'm reluctant.

[Rock Sexton]

he was called Barton not Hawkeye (IIRC)... so the general audience, who don't know the ins & outs of the MCU (Something i was until VERY recently) he is just a guy called barton who has an attitude...

*Sighs*

You know what.... it's 20 past midnight here... and i can't be bothered anymore... enjoy being a troll Rock.

Barton is his real name is it not? The general audience who watches The Avengers whom are also familiar with Thor will recognize him because ..... wait for it ..... they will end up calling him Barton in that movie as well and guess what? He'll have that bow and his attitude! Man, go figure!

Enjoy making a big deal over nothing.

[Dr Lee]

He's hardly being a troll (in this case anyway). They're valid points. Why would he need to be Hawkeye? Does it matter if the GA audience don't appreciate his significance in the MCU if they WILL in the Avengers?

the way Rock initiated this... debate is very troll-ish.

the simple fact is that they made the guy out to be important in the fact he was mentioned by name to go after Thor in the outpost/compound... and then he just vanishes without a trace..... That confused me and didn't make sense to me....

to be called greedy for that.... not on in my book

[Danalys]

You're making me reluctant. You won't like me when i'm reluctant.

"leave me alone"

[Rock Sexton]

He's hardly being a troll (in this case anyway).

Never in "any case." ..... :cwink:

[Rock Sexton]

the way Rock initiated this... debate is very troll-ish.

the simple fact is that they made the guy out to be important in the fact he was mentioned by name to go after Thor in the outpost/compound... and then he just vanishes without a trace..... That confused me and didn't make sense to me....

to be called greedy for that.... not on in my book

Ya, because your greed as a fan of wanting more out of the character is not supported by how the story was told, nor his purpose within said story. We all want more out certain things in these stories. You're taking that word too personally.

It's not like Hawkeye had full exposition and the audience is drawn into the character so that his disappearance goes noticed. It's the fact that you have previous knowledge of the character that's getting in the way of the effectiveness of the cameo.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Just to let people know, TDKR supposed info has been released. It involves an alter in Bane's motives as a villain and origin and everyone is losing their ****!

I hope this thread never becomes what that wretched place is. Agreed.

[Crimson King]

No, Thor deflected it's enery beam back down into it's facial opening caused it to shut down, it's body was still completely intact when he fell to the ground (it wasn't crushed at all).

Destroyer's energy beam >>> Hulk's fist

I remember him deflecting the beam back but I'm 99% positive his head was crushed by a shot from the hammer at the end.

Others who have seen Thor, am I wrong?

[terry78]

WTF are you people arguing about? Why Coulson called Hawkeye Barton?

[Quasimod0]

I remember him deflecting the beam back but I'm 99% positive his head was crushed by a shot from the hammer at the end.

Others who have seen Thor, am I wrong?

Didnt it like explode from all that power that thor was pushing back at the head?

[Dr Lee]

WTF are you people arguing about? Why Coulson called Hawkeye Barton?

I felt that the hawkeye cameo was out of place and it didn't make sense to me for him to just randomly appear, then vanish without a trace... And offered up an idea how to fix it....


Apparently that makes me greedy....:huh:

[Crimson King]

Didnt it like explode from all that power that thor was pushing back at the head?

Huh. Maybe so. I remember the final shot of it having a crushed head.

Either way, I still contend that the Destroyer was sold short in Thor. He almost killed Thor in the comics but he couldn't even land a shot in the movie.

[Rock Sexton]

WTF are you people arguing about? Why Coulson called Hawkeye Barton?

No. Dr. Lee was not happy with the way they used Hawkeye's cameo. In our conversation I mentioned that he was called by his name, had his trademark bow, and was a bad ass. Lee said they didn't call him Hawkeye and felt as though the GA only thinks it's some guy named Barton. However, his appearance wasn't so much for the GA as it was for us with previous knowledge of. That'll change come The Avengers as many people who'll see that also saw Thor and will be able to remember.

[Rock Sexton]

I felt that the hawkeye cameo was out of place and it didn't make sense to me for him to just randomly appear, then vanish without a trace... And offered up an idea how to fix it....


Apparently that makes me greedy....:huh:

Indeed. You have yet to illustrate why he is out of place or "didn't make sense" and have only demonstrated you wanted more. Wanting more of him in this film could be considered fan greed. I don't know why you get so butt hurt over that word.

[Quasimod0]

He was in it just enough in my opinion. The public may not have known what character he was, but they know renner. And he was unique because he chose a bow. Come time for the avengers, im sure people will remember him. It was a well done cameo that couldve been easily done by some nameless agent, but instead was done with a character we wanted to see. Thats good fan service. And it worked

[Parker Wayne]

Most people think he's just a regular agent. I see no problem with it. It's the same problem with Black Widow. Since we're familiar with the characters, we expect them to do much more than they will do. But I'm satisfied with the way they used Renner in Thor because it was for the fans, but I get baffled sometimes at why fans complain about these situations since it's obviously meant for them.

[Spider-ManHero12]

But I'm satisfied with the way they used Renner in Thor because it was for the fans, but I get baffled sometimes at why fans complain about these situations since it's obviously meant for them. So true.

[Dr Lee]

I have told you why I felt how I felt...

My reaction wasn't about the word per say, but the implied insult behind it.... After today (well, yesterday now) I've just had my fill of freaking insults and you were unwittingly the 'straw that broke the camel's back'. For that I apologise.

[mclay18]

I wouldn't use IMDB to confirm that....

While that counts for virtually every other aspect of IMDB's in-production titles, usually the technical specs are on the money.

[steintym]

I really just took Hawkeye's appearance as an extended, and pretty cool, Easter egg. It was a little longer than most cameos, but I don't it was meant as some big introduction or anything ... Just a cool little nod to the fans.

[Doctor Jones]

I squealed louder than I should have when I saw Renner. I forgot about his cameo until he showed up.

[Rock Sexton]

I really just took Hawkeye's appearance as an extended, and pretty cool, Easter egg. It was a little longer than most cameos, but I don't it was meant as some big introduction or anything ... Just a cool little nod to the fans.

That's exactly what it was. :applaud

[protocida]

I think they should've made Barton Coulson's right-hand man. Having him interact with Coulson and SHIELD and try to take down the Destroyer before Thor regained his powers would be nice.

[catintheengine]

Ok, so I guess I'll weigh in on the whole Hawkeye debate.

From a filmmaker perspective, you have to assume that your GA, at best, will have a passing familiarity with characters like Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor. Pretty much everyone is aware of the Hulk, so he doesn't really figure into this.

The thing about a character like Hawkeye is that he isn't as well known as those other characters. I'd wager that if I walked down the street and asked 10 people if they were aware of who Captain America was, a fair number would know who he, or Iron Man, was. I would be shocked, however, if more than two people knew who Hawkeye was. He just hasn't had the same level of exposure.

So that's why the Hawkeye cameo worked. Branagh actually handled it quite elegantly. Let's do a real quick scene breakdown (forgive me if I forget anything):

1) Coulson calls for "eyes in the sky". We see a hand pass over various guns before resting on a sniper rifle. At the last moment, the hand grabs a compound bow instead.

- This was fan-service. The thing about a scene like this is that while we, the fans, get it and understand what's going on, the GA has no idea why someone would take a bow over a gun. I'm sure that to many, it probably seemed a bit silly. Like I said: It was simply fan-service.

2) The Agent, Barton, jumps into a 'cherry-picker' and is raised above the complex. From his vantage point he watches as Thor easily dispatches many of his fellow agents. He prepares to fire.

- This bit here actually served two purposes. For the fans, it was a continuation of Barton's cameo, but for the GA it was meant to give them a sense that Thor may actually have gotten himself into trouble, since now there's someone with a weapon trained on him.

3) Thor finally meets someone able to match him, or at least give him a challenge, as Barton makes remarks to Coulson.

- This is the bit that ties it all together for the Hawkeye cameo. Barton keeps a calm, almost nonchalant, demeanor. He also talks to Coulson, who we can safely assume is in charge, in a way that most soldiers wouldn't dare speak to their superiors. This could even hint at a problem with authority.

Honestly, I feel like if they were to give us much more of Hawkeye, it would be too much. For the GA, it would go from being 'Oh, ok, there's a soldier who's got attitude and uses a bow' to 'Who is that guy and why is he there?!' We have to keep in mind that these films are not just made for the fans, but for the GA as well. We should be appreciative that we got a cameo at all.

I would also like to say that I'm frankly glad that they didn't call him Hawkeye. I think that for the GA, it probably would have pushed it into the 'campy' range to see a guy using a bow instead of a gun and to call him Hawkeye. Keep in mind that Thor was only called 'Thor' because it's his name. Iron Man didn't start off with the name, but the newspapers picked it for him. IIRC, Hulk was given that moniker by a witness at Culver University. There would be no reason for Coulson to call Barton by his codename in that instance.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I really just took Hawkeye's appearance as an extended, and pretty cool, Easter egg. It was a little longer than most cameos, but I don't it was meant as some big introduction or anything ... Just a cool little nod to the fans. Well said.

[Dark Raven]

There would be no reason for Coulson to call Barton by his codename in that instance.

I agree on everything said, except that I think it would be believable for Coulson to call Barton "Hawkeye". It could be like his call sign, just as many people in the military, navy or airforce have one.

In the TV series "The Unit" each member of the team had call signs such as Snake Doctor, Dirt Diver, Betty Blue, Whiplash, Hammer Head or Red Cap. It was a serious TV series about a black ops team. I'm sure no-one batted an eyelid when they heard these names, because people just took them as call signs and nothing else. "Whiplash" and "Hammer Head" are no different to "Hawkeye" and are also names of Marvel characters.

All that Brannagh needed to do was have Coulson (or other SHIELD members) refer to his team by call signs and then "Hawkeye" wouldn't have sounded out of place. Even if he didn't use that for others, I'm sure the audience still would've just thought of the name Hawkeye for Barton as a callsign.

[BoredGuy]

I'm fine with him just being called Barton in Thor

I just think it would have been cool if he'd taken Thor down with like a gas arrow or something (avoiding electric arrows so Thor doesn't get tased a second time).
When Thor was all dejected and fell to his knees, they just went in and cuffed him
Knock 'em out with a gas arrow, and it shows they view him as dangerous, even as a mortal

no biggy tho, just woulda been cool

[Nathan]

He was broken though at that point. There was no need for any further action beyond the cuffs.

[BoredGuy]

I know, and do agree..
The cameo would have just had more of a point

[Iceman]

Was Iron Man known at all by the general audience before his films came out? Hulk obviously was & most people would have at least heard of Cap & Thor even if they didn't know what they looked like!

[protocida]

Barton will probably not be called "Hawkeye", same way Natasha Romanoff was never called "Black Widow" in Iron Man 2.

[Endeavor]

If the Skrulls are really present in the movie, then I would like to see something similar to this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IL3UxuynprE/TTNSq7SExxI/AAAAAAAAAds/GyNeYvG5FLg/s1600/skrull_face.jpg

That's great! :up:

[Slipeor]

Ok, so I guess I'll weigh in on the whole Hawkeye debate.

From a filmmaker perspective, you have to assume that your GA, at best, will have a passing familiarity with characters like Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor. Pretty much everyone is aware of the Hulk, so he doesn't really figure into this.

The thing about a character like Hawkeye is that he isn't as well known as those other characters. I'd wager that if I walked down the street and asked 10 people if they were aware of who Captain America was, a fair number would know who he, or Iron Man, was. I would be shocked, however, if more than two people knew who Hawkeye was. He just hasn't had the same level of exposure.

So that's why the Hawkeye cameo worked. Branagh actually handled it quite elegantly. Let's do a real quick scene breakdown (forgive me if I forget anything):

1) Coulson calls for "eyes in the sky". We see a hand pass over various guns before resting on a sniper rifle. At the last moment, the hand grabs a compound bow instead.

- This was fan-service. The thing about a scene like this is that while we, the fans, get it and understand what's going on, the GA has no idea why someone would take a bow over a gun. I'm sure that to many, it probably seemed a bit silly. Like I said: It was simply fan-service.

2) The Agent, Barton, jumps into a 'cherry-picker' and is raised above the complex. From his vantage point he watches as Thor easily dispatches many of his fellow agents. He prepares to fire.

- This bit here actually served two purposes. For the fans, it was a continuation of Barton's cameo, but for the GA it was meant to give them a sense that Thor may actually have gotten himself into trouble, since now there's someone with a weapon trained on him.

3) Thor finally meets someone able to match him, or at least give him a challenge, as Barton makes remarks to Coulson.

- This is the bit that ties it all together for the Hawkeye cameo. Barton keeps a calm, almost nonchalant, demeanor. He also talks to Coulson, who we can safely assume is in charge, in a way that most soldiers wouldn't dare speak to their superiors. This could even hint at a problem with authority.

Honestly, I feel like if they were to give us much more of Hawkeye, it would be too much. For the GA, it would go from being 'Oh, ok, there's a soldier who's got attitude and uses a bow' to 'Who is that guy and why is he there?!' We have to keep in mind that these films are not just made for the fans, but for the GA as well. We should be appreciative that we got a cameo at all.

I would also like to say that I'm frankly glad that they didn't call him Hawkeye. I think that for the GA, it probably would have pushed it into the 'campy' range to see a guy using a bow instead of a gun and to call him Hawkeye. Keep in mind that Thor was only called 'Thor' because it's his name. Iron Man didn't start off with the name, but the newspapers picked it for him. IIRC, Hulk was given that moniker by a witness at Culver University. There would be no reason for Coulson to call Barton by his codename in that instance.

Well said. The best part of the cameo for me was the line Barton said to Couslon after Thor beat up the big SHIELD agent. While waiting for word to take a kill shot on Thor, he said something to the effect of: "Hurry up Coulson and let me know what you want me to do. I'm starting to root for this guy".

This does indeed show both his dislike of authority, but also his humor and perhaps desire to be a superhero. I know it gets away from the reformed criminal origin in the comics, but I think it works well.

[GhostPoet]

The Hawkeye cameo was great! Why? Because it shows that there are already heroes working in SHIELD...it just makes the universe feel bigger.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The Hawkeye cameo was great! Why? Because it shows that there are already heroes working in SHIELD...it just makes the universe feel bigger. Which is another reason why I love it.

[Rowsdower!]

Does anyone know if Thanos is going to appear in this film? I heard that he might a while back, but I don't remember if there was any validity to that statement. It would be awesome though; he's one of my favorite villains.

[protocida]

Probably not.

[Rowsdower!]

Damn. Oh, well. At least we'll get more Loki and probably more Red Skull. That will suffice.

[StarkTheProdigy]

I know it's unlikely, but it'd be awesome, and a great idea if they had a teaser of this attached to Captain America. It'd be beneficial because there is still a chunk of the GA that still have no idea of what these movies are building up too, and those that know about the plan, don't even know who's going to be in it. Even if they just filmed something specifically for the trailer, that'd be cool. Just sayin...
I guess a post credits scene will do.

[protocida]

Don't expect Red Skull either, just Loki and the Skrulls.

[Cyclonus]

Im still curious to see the end of Captain America when it debuts. Im still wondering if it will lead directly into the Avengers movie or not. I wish in either Thor or Captain America movie that the Hulk was mentioned more or made a cameo, I feel like he is the forgotten hero since we haven't seen him since 2008 on film and alot of people still don't even know Ruffalo is the new Banner. It would've been nice if he had a cameo in one of these movies.

[Rowsdower!]

Don't expect Red Skull either, just Loki and the Skrulls.

I don't know... just having one central villain and the Skrulls would feel sort of underwhelming, IMO.

[flickchick85]

Hemsworth is on set already? Interesting! He still has a couple of TV appearances to make, so I'll be curious to see if we get any glimpses of his Avengers look (for example, I don't think he has a beard at present, last time I checked).

[MahvelBaby!]

I'm reallllly curious as to how Hawkeye will be utilized in this film, he's the only Avenger with absolutely no backstory as of now, maybe he will be one of several POV characters?(Without taking away from everyone else ofcourse) By that I mean some of the story is seen through his perspective I believe it would help us bond with him a bit. Maybe the rest of the Avengers don't respect him because he's not super-human and he has a "Save their A**** moment" and they accept him?

[Doctor Jones]

Hemsworth has the beard. He's been growing it back. He was on Kimmel last week with it growing.

[Rock Sexton]

Hemsworth has the beard. He's been growing it back. He was on Kimmel last week with it growing.

I noticed he had grown out his hair considerably compared to when he filmed Thor. Good idea though because the extensions they gave him for that film were a bit ratty looking.

[Doctor Jones]

I wasn't even thinking of the details for his features. I just saw Thor.

[Spider-Vader]

Lol my friend and I have an inhouse joke from a Youtube video we found, of two guys playing 'Captain America and The Avengers' on Sega Genesis, and one of them is yelling "What the ****, WHY AM I HAWKEYE?"

We went and saw Thor together, and he didn't know about the cameo, and when Hawkeye appears I turn to him, ready to say it, when somewhere from up the back of the theatre we both hear someone else say "WHY AM I HAWKEYE?"

Needless to say, we laughed uncontrollably through most of that scene.

Link to the video, please?

Barton will probably not be called "Hawkeye", same way Natasha Romanoff was never called "Black Widow" in Iron Man 2.

It all depends on if Hawkeye decides to stay with SHIELD or if he actually becomes a superhero. If he becomes a superhero, I'm sure he'll adopt the Hawkeye name. I personally hope for the latter.

[steintym]

I wouldn't be surprised if he's primarily referred to as just Barton, much in the same way that Tony Stark is primarily called Stark and not actually Iron Man.

[flickchick85]

I would imagine their "superhero names" will come from their call signs when they're on a mission.

[Rowsdower!]

LOL, I remember that cheesy Avengers video game, at least the arcade version. The Red Skull shows up at the beginning and says: "YOU CANNOT BEAT ME. HA HA HA HA HA."

[flickchick85]

I noticed he had grown out his hair considerably compared to when he filmed Thor. Good idea though because the extensions they gave him for that film were a bit ratty looking.
Agreed, they did kind of annoy me on occasion. The more of his real hair they can use, the better, imo. And I just watched him on Lopez Tonight - the beard is well on its way! :thor:

Though I kinda get the feeling he was just visiting the set when Ruffalo tweeted. Otherwise, we may have a few scenes with scruffy-Thor rather than bearded-Thor, lol.

[bored]

LOL, I remember that cheesy Avengers video game, at least the arcade version. The Red Skull shows up at the beginning and says: "YOU CANNOT BEAT ME. HA HA HA HA HA."

I fully expect the movie to begin with someone shouting "THEEEEE... AVENNNGERRRRRSHHH".

[Spider-ManHero12]

I wouldn't be surprised if he's primarily referred to as just Barton, much in the same way that Tony Stark is primarily called Stark and not actually Iron Man. This could work, if you ask me. Though, I think the media will call him Hawkeye.

[BizarroAids]

I fully expect the movie to begin with someone shouting "THEEEEE... AVENNNGERRRRRSHHH".

Maybe something as epic as this...

EC6E8-96q0U

:woot:

[Mr. Earle]

^ Oh god... so much nostalgia!!!

[Iron_Stark]

Thor should've been in the game instead of Vision. :argh:

I played the s*** out of that game, in the arcades and on my Genesis, which I still have and also the little Captain America pin it came with. :woot:

[terry78]

Now I need to hook up some Mame and play that again.

[Rowsdower!]

Maybe something as epic as this...

EC6E8-96q0U

:woot:


Yes!!!!

[Atomicchuck3k]

I would imagine their "superhero names" will come from their call signs when they're on a mission.

I think it's more of the SHIELD code names like in X-Men 2 when Mystique hacked into the data base and you got to see the names of other characters in the Marvel Universe.

[Brian Braddock]

'DATA EAST'.

Man, seeing that logo takes me back.

[bored]

Maybe something as epic as this...

EC6E8-96q0U

:woot:

NOTHING could be that epic. The movie needs to open with an orchestral version of that music.

[TheVileOne]

I like that game because you could play as Cap and Iron Man and it was fun beat 'em up arcade game.

I just hope they can make something decent with the Avengers. It doesn't have to be Arkham Asylum level, just be as good as say Spider-Man 2002 level.

[Rowsdower!]

The funny thing about that game is that it's a true indicator of just how much superheroes have changed over the years. I remember that game coming out about the same time that the X-Men arcade game came out. The X-Men game was much more popular (at least with everyone I knew) not only because it was a better game but because the X-Men were amazingly popular back then, while the Avengers weren't anything special.

If you had told me back then that an Avengers movie and an X-Men movie would be hitting theaters within a year of each other, I'd have been super-hyped for the X-Men film, but would probably be "meh" about The Avengers.

But all these years later, it's the complete opposite. Funny how things have changed. We're all chomping at the bit over The Avengers but I think that even the people that are excited about X-Men: First Class still are wondering if there's anything they can do that with it that will feel fresh and new.

[Doctor Jones]

First Class does look great. It could very well be the best one yet. I mean it looks like Fox let Vaughn make his film.

[Rowsdower!]

I hope it is great, but everything I've seen so far has just looked mediocre to me. Though I do hope Fassbender gives us a Magneto that is more like the comic version. I liked McKellan, but he never really came off like the Magneto I grew up reading about.

[steintym]

I would have never believed that an X-Men movie, a Thor movie and a Captain America movie would come out in the same year. Not to mention this would be a year after a second Iron Man movie and a year before an Avengers movie. Very cool times for movies ...

[marvel_freshman]

I don't know if this has been posted here, but heres a damn-near perfect timeline of events in the Marvel Cinematic Universe http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2011/05/02/a-marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline/

[SouloHero]

After seeing Thor tonite, I agree...that's a good timeline of the events that unfolded in the MCU movies so far...can't wait to see what Avengers has in store... ; )

[Spidey_62]

I don't know if this has been posted here, but heres a damn-near perfect timeline of events in the Marvel Cinematic Universe http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2011/05/02/a-marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline/
Wow, that's pretty amazing.

[Crimson King]

I don't know if this has been posted here, but heres a damn-near perfect timeline of events in the Marvel Cinematic Universe http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2011/05/02/a-marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline/

Awesome! I'm bookmarking this one.

[HighFivingMF]

Hey, guys. Where does Coulson keep his files?


A DEBRIEF CASE! :awesome:

[Mako]

I don't know if this has been posted here, but heres a damn-near perfect timeline of events in the Marvel Cinematic Universe http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2011/05/02/a-marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline/

That's pretty awesome :up: nice find.

[Doctor Jones]

Awesome find. Loved reading that alot. I know Cap takes place a whole block of time before the others, but still. I can't wait to see the events of that film be included into it.

Someone should use this and put together an entire MCU film after Thor and Cap come out on DVD. All of the events of the timelines in order for the film. All leading to the Avengers. Can you imagine watching that? How awesome would that be?

[Parker Wayne]

That would be one hell of an editing job.

[PumpkinBombxXx]

That would be cool but doubtfull we would ever see it.

[Doctor Jones]

I think it would happen. It wouldn't surprise me. If there are fans that would go out of there way to restore films themselves (Like Adawyn's SW edits) then I could definitely see someone do this. And it woldn't be that difficult. Just cut the scenes and put them in order of the timelines. Although it would be difficult in the transitioning, if there is any even. You might have to change some beats.

[R_Hythlodeus]

blowing the dust off my editing software...

[gmanca]

It could be coincidence or purposeful, but all of the Marvel Studios films have a 2.35:1 Aspect Ratio.

[Mako]

Awesome find. Loved reading that alot. I know Cap takes place a whole block of time before the others, but still. I can't wait to see the events of that film be included into it.

Someone should use this and put together an entire MCU film after Thor and Cap come out on DVD. All of the events of the timelines in order for the film. All leading to the Avengers. Can you imagine watching that? How awesome would that be?

That would be a truly painstaking task, but wow it would awesome :awesome:

[Iceman]

That would be crazy. A 12 hour film ending with Avengers! Yeah, I would happily take a day off work to do that. (like once a week)

[Spideyfan93]

There should be a box set featuring IM,IM2,Incredible Hulk,Thor,Cap...no?

[Rock Sexton]

Just saw The Dark Knight Rises is getting a $250 million budget. Could you imagine The Avengers funded on that kind of cheddar? I dunno how I feel about this. TDKR won't even be using the kind of CGI The Avengers will either.

[Mister Sinister]

Bad news: Paul Bettany says he hasn't been approached for the movie...yet.

http://collider.com/paul-bettany-interview-priest-avengers/90028/

[Doctor Jones]

I could have sworn he confirmed his involvement.

[Whiskey Tango]

Bad news: Paul Bettany says he hasn't been approached for the movie...yet.

http://collider.com/paul-bettany-interview-priest-avengers/90028/

I think for the IM films he was called in way later during post to record his lines. I would hazard a guess that it's simply way too early to need him at this point.

[Whiskey Tango]

speaking of which, I hope Jarvis gets some fun interaction with Thor or Cap. Thor had some funny lines about it in EMH's.

[RealIrOnMaN]

Bad news: Paul Bettany says he hasn't been approached for the movie...yet.

http://collider.com/paul-bettany-interview-priest-avengers/90028/
Weird, really weird. I could've sworn, he said, that he's involved, but no one from Marvel called him or approached him yet, since they're doing this kind of sfuff right at the last moment, when the movie is in post-production.

[DarknessOfDeath]

So what are ppl's thoughts about Mark Ruffalo replacing Norton as Banner? Im sad that it had to be this way but I admit, I like Mark as an actor so I'm curious on his take of the character. Guess we'll see next year.

[PumpkinBombxXx]

Norton was Bruce Banner in every way. it will be hard to see him replaced but Mark Ruffalo may suprise us all. Its way to early to tell. I must admit i liked how Eric Bana played out the pre hulk rage. Didnt really see any of that with Ed.

[Mako]

Weird, really weird. I could've sworn, he said, that he's involved, but no one from Marvel called him or approached him yet, since they're doing this kind of sfuff right at the last moment, when the movie is in post-production.

Yea I believe he does his Voice work late in post production.

[Rock Sexton]

So what are ppl's thoughts about Mark Ruffalo replacing Norton as Banner? Im sad that it had to be this way but I admit, I like Mark as an actor so I'm curious on his take of the character. Guess we'll see next year.

Put it this way .... Norton came off like the kind of personality who would test gamma radiation on himself. Ruffalo does not strike me like that at all .... not even a shred. I find him easily forgettable.

[BigThor]

Just saw The Dark Knight Rises is getting a $250 million budget. Could you imagine The Avengers funded on that kind of cheddar? I dunno how I feel about this. TDKR won't even be using the kind of CGI The Avengers will either.

The Avengers should be funded by something close to that amount.

[MahvelBaby!]

I think despite whatever Marvels initial budget is..... it will end up being alot more. lol

[Parker Wayne]

Yep, I was saying it should be in the area of $250 million.

Marvel hasn't been taking any risks at all, creative or technical wise. It's time that ends with both with The Avengers.

Even though I'm being cliche, Marvel needs to go big or go home with The Avengers.

[Spider-Fan]

Agreed. I expect them to spend over 200 mil on Avengers, though. It's their only film next year, and previous history shows when that happened with IM2, it got a 200mil budget. Avengers I expect to get a higher budget than that.