State your unpopular film related opinion - Part 3

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[gwynplaine]

Great Spagett avy.

[JAK®]

Great Spagett avy.
Gotcha, spooked ya!

[gwynplaine]

Haha:woot:
Big Tim and Eric fan.

[JAK®]

Haha:woot:
Big Tim and Eric fan.
I actually don't watch that show, although that's something I've decided to fix after the discovery of Spagett.

I have seen a couple of episodes of 'Check It Out! with Dr. Steve Brule' however.

[gwynplaine]

Zach Galifianakis is really funny as Tairy Greene too.

[El Payaso]

I would say it's because he's aware that he was not Asgard.

He smashed the glass, ask for a horse, etc. He was still behaving like he was in Asgard.

I mean, sure other directors would've played it up a little more but for once I like that there could be a character and a love interest that actually likes each other through the movie.

Every love interest like the hero and vice versa. But they usually have more to it than just that.

He met her first. :hehe:

Heh, yeah. That's about it.

[Doctor Jones]

It's Natalie Portman. It's not hard to fall in love with her right away. That shot of her looking at Thor after he crashed on to Earth I was expecting Thor to say, "Angel."

Or maybe that was just me thinking it. Yup. It was! :awesome:

[Drizzle]

It's Natalie Portman. It's not hard to fall in love with her right away. That shot of her looking at Thor after he crashed on to Earth I was expecting Thor to say, "Angel."

Or maybe that was just me thinking it. Yup. It was! :awesome:
Thor: "Are you an angel?"

Jane: "Not this **** again."

*Jane grabs taser from Darcy and tasers Thor*

[Sloth7d]

Thor: "Are you an angel?"

Jane: "Not this **** again."

*Jane grabs taser from Darcy and tasers Thor*

Also sand. :o

[gwynplaine]

I've said it before I watched the movie, but I'll say it again now that I've seen it. I wish Thor had been all set in Asgard. Didn't care that much for the earth part. Expect for the scene when Loki visits Thor. I liked that he was wearing a suit and tie. (Also to be honest, I liked the final showdown between Thor and the Destroyer, like a Western on acid:woot:)
On a side note, Hiddleston would make a great Joker, specially in a period piece Batman movie, Conrad Veidt style.

[Parker Wayne]

I definitely agree about Hiddleston gwynplaine. He would be perfect for something like that.

I hope Hiddleston's performance results in more starring roles for him. The same for Hemsworth.

Edit: Apparently Hiddleston's going to be in Spielberg's War horse :awesome:

[Tron Bonne]

I enjoyed Thor a lot, and I think the one thing that really struck me was that we had a fight between the main hero and the main villain that did not either a) suck total ass (Iron Man, Iron Man 2), or b) was just incredibly lackluster compared to the build up around it (pretty much every other superhero film).

[gwynplaine]

I definitely agree about Hiddleston gwynplaine. He would be perfect for something like that.

I hope Hiddleston's performance results in more starring roles for him. The same for Hemsworth.

Edit: Apparently Hiddleston's going to be in Spielberg's War horse :awesome:
I agree.
They both were great.

I enjoyed Thor a lot, and I think the one thing that really struck me was that we had a fight between the main hero and the main villain that did not either a) suck total ass (Iron Man, Iron Man 2), or b) was just incredibly lackluster compared to the build up around it (pretty much every other superhero film).
Good point.

[Parker Wayne]

That is true. The fight between Thor and Loki was pretty well done, and I look forward to round 2 in The Avengers.

[Parker Wayne]

He smashed the glass, ask for a horse, etc. He was still behaving like he was in Asgard.


That's because he didn't know traditions of Earth let alone the US. Once Jane clarified that and pretty much insinuated that it wasn't normal behavior, he understood and complied.

[Dark Victory]

I enjoyed Thor a lot, and I think the one thing that really struck me was that we had a fight between the main hero and the main villain that did not either a) suck total ass (Iron Man, Iron Man 2), or b) was just incredibly lackluster compared to the build up around it (pretty much every other superhero film).


I agree, the fights of the Iron Man movies were really anticlimactic, but I found Thor's battles to be just as boring, especially the Frost Giant fight in the first act. Though, to be fair, the 3D didn't help at all.

[Bunker]

The frost giant battle was a mess of ****. I had no idea what was going on.

[El Payaso]

That's because he didn't know traditions of Earth let alone the US. Once Jane clarified that and pretty much insinuated that it wasn't normal behavior, he understood and complied.

One day, he thinks that a thousand-year-old peace is worthy to be broken to start a war and Odin's word wasn't enough to stop him.

Next day (or a few hours later) he thinks traditions like smashing glasses are okay to be stopped because some random girl said so.

[Dark Victory]

The frost giant battle was a mess of ****. I had no idea what was going on.

I didn't have a problem with that, the structure and rhythm of it all was boring as hell. But I'll admit Thor flying was funny, all he needed was rainbow emission.

[Tron Bonne]

I agree, the fights of the Iron Man movies were really anticlimactic, but I found Thor's battles to be just as boring, especially the Frost Giant fight in the first act. Though, to be fair, the 3D didn't help at all.

I liked all the fights, more or less. The last one between Loki and Thor may not have been my perfect dream fight or anything, but I'm glad they had an actual fight instead of there being some kind of twist to it like so many other superhero films do for their final confrontations.

[Doctor Jones]

Thor's action sequence in Johtenheim was all kinds of badass.

And if you did not think the Bifrost sequence was sick then you have no soul. Them launching across like a bullet rocked my ****ing world. And you cannot tell me Thor twirling Mjiolnir wasn't good. Then when he launched through that creature's mouth. I came buckets.

And agreed, leading up to the movie and afterwards, I do think Hiddelston would make a great Joker.

And the recent voice cast for Year One made me realize how much Brian Cranston would make a terrific Gordon in a live action film.

[bullets]

I enjoyed Thor a lot, and I think the one thing that really struck me was that we had a fight between the main hero and the main villain that did not either a) suck total ass (Iron Man, Iron Man 2), or b) was just incredibly lackluster compared to the build up around it (pretty much every other superhero film).

I liked Hulk vs Abomination in TIH . Thor vs Loki was probably the best though because of the emotional investment.

[gwynplaine]

Even though I enjoyed Thor, I think I still prefer Iron Man.
I hope the next Thor is a big epic set entirely in the realm of Asgard, Lord of the Rings style.
The Frost Giants make up looked a bit like the Djinn's.
I loved Thor twirling Mjolnir and how Loki couldn't move when the Hammer was laid on his chest (that was so cool, that's got to be from the comics.)

[Tron Bonne]

I think I probably prefer Thor in the end. I liked Iron Man, still do, but I always kind of felt like it was overblown.

I liked Hulk vs Abomination in TIH . Thor vs Loki was probably the best though because of the emotional investment.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. It was a pretty solid fight, too.

[Figs]

The frost giant battle was a mess of ****. I had no idea what was going on.

Were you watching the movie in 3D? I heard from some people that they also had a hard time making things out with the glasses adding that extra tint to the screen.

[Dark Victory]

. David Slade's a talented director who hasn't hit his mark yet. I like a lot of his music video and commercial work.

. The Beaver could be burned for justifiable reasons.

[SuperFerret]

Hiddleston's already played Loki, playing the Joker would be a step down.

[Sloth7d]

Lust, Caution did not need to be so gratuitous with it's sex scenes. There was no need to make it NC-17

American Gangster > Scarface, though I'll still give to to Scarface for having the more memorable scenes

Quentin Tarantino should have been the one to adapt Watchmen

Intacto deserves more wide spread attention. This movie was awesome.

Religulous was kind of pointless. I laughed, I agree with Mahr, but there's no new view point or argument presented to get anyone to reconsider anything about anything.

The Golden Compass > The Cgronicles of Narnia. That said, Pullman is a spineless sell out and a hypocrite. C.S. Lewis sticks to his guns. That's admirable, indeed.

The Counte of Monte Cristo has a very weak moral to the story, contradictory probably.

Same with The Clash of the Titans remake.

[Parker Wayne]

I couldn't care less about Golden Compass or Chronicles of Narnia.

[bullets]

At first Real Steel looked fun but after seeing the new trailer, I'm not interested.

[gwynplaine]

I couldn't care less about Golden Compass or Chronicles of Narnia.
Same here.

[The Morningstar]

Hiddleston's already played Loki, playing the Joker would be a step down.

:funny: :up:

[Ipodman]

First Narnia movie was better than first LOTR movie, but LOTR Trilogy better than Narnia Trilogy

[Drizzle]

Quentin Tarantino should have been the one to adapt Watchmen
I don't see how he could have adapted it faithfully.

I couldn't care less about Golden Compass or Chronicles of Narnia.
I like the first two Narnia films, but the third one sucked ass. As for The Golden Compass, I thought it was mind numbingly boring except for just one badass scene:

GrCEG2Ip-Pg

[Ipodman]

Still can't believe a few talking polar bears beat out Pirates of the Caribbean and TRANSFORMERS for the Best Visual Effects Oscar whaaaaaat

[Drizzle]

Still can't believe a few talking polar bears beat out Pirates of the Caribbean and TRANSFORMERS for the Best Visual Effects Oscar whaaaaaat
The Academy is notorious for voting for films that everyone forgets about. Seriously, before coming into this thread today, I honestly haven't thought about The Golden Compass in three years. It was that forgettable.

[Ipodman]

Didn't they have to remove a lot of stuff from the film because some religious people didn't like what was in there... no wonder the film felt so empty and unfinished

[Figs]

I'm not at all excited for Super 8. Personally it gives me a kind of 'meh' feeling.

[Doctor Jones]

...

Et Tu Figs?

[Tron Bonne]

Et tu? Hasn't pretty much the majority of people been masturbating to that film since before we even had a trailer :confused:

[Blackman]

-I liked that I, Spy movie

[gwynplaine]

I'm not at all excited for Super 8. Personally it gives me a kind of 'meh' feeling.
Me too. Not too excited about War Horse either. I'd rather see a Spielberg Western or another film in the vein of Duel or Jaws.

[Bunker]

Close Encounters is my favorite Spielberg movie so you best believe I'm looking forward to Super 8.

[gwynplaine]

Do you get a CE feel from the trailer? It feels more like JJ trying to do ET to me. But I might be wrong.

[Bunker]

It totally feels like Close Encounters...

-The truck in the trailers is the same exact truck as Roy's in Close Encounters
-Pivotal scene on train tracks.
- Huge crowd scenes of people evacuating
- Small town America getting "invaded"

Yeah, pretty much.

[CelticPredator]

It's totally Close Encounters. I see very little ET.

[gwynplaine]

Oh, OK. I only saw the trailer once.
Anyway, I know that's super unpopular (yay!) but I'm not such a big fan of CE. Spielberg is god to me but I prefer when he sticks to directing and doesn't attempt writing.
But once again to each his own:up:

[CelticPredator]

Wow. Close Enconters is a masterpiece....the issues delt in that film are pretty intense. It's hard to watch Roy fall so hard, and finally come back up.

Him going off into the Alien ship at the end, having nothing left for him on earth is pretty brilliant.

[Parker Wayne]

Me too. Not too excited about War Horse either. I'd rather see a Spielberg Western or another film in the vein of Duel or Jaws.

I'll wait for a trailer to decide on that. It seems like it could be a good movie.

[Bunker]

What cut did you see, Gw? The Special Edition is by far the best cut.

[gwynplaine]

Wow. Close Enconters is a masterpiece....the issues delt in that film are pretty intense. It's hard to watch Roy fall so hard, and finally come back up.

Him going off into the Alien ship at the end, having nothing left for him on earth is pretty brilliant.
Yeah, Like I said unpopular:woot:

I'll wait for a trailer to decide on that. It seems like it could be a good movie.
Good point.

What cut did you see, Gw? The Special Edition is by far the best cut.
I saw it in the theater. Yeah I know I'm old:cwink:

[Bunker]

Ah. Well if you ever get the time, you should definitely check out the special edition.

[gwynplaine]

OK thanks, I will.

[Dark Victory]

Agreed. Speilberg was smart to cut out all of the shots from inside the alien ship.

It totally feels like Close Encounters...

-The truck in the trailers is the same exact truck as Roy's in Close Encounters
-Pivotal scene on train tracks.
- Huge crowd scenes of people evacuating
- Small town America getting "invaded"


A lot of the camera movements and wide lenses definitely have a Speilberg feel. The music sounds like something from John Williams, which helps.

[Figs]

The reasons that I'm not excited for Super 8 is the fact that growing up in the 80's I watched the hell out of Close Encounters and ET. It just doesn't look like anything new.

I'm not saying it looks bad, it just isn't as interesting to me.

[Ipodman]

I think kids nowadays will be enthralled by ET if you show it to them today anyway... maybe...

[Bunker]

You can say the same thing about almost every Spielberg movie. His movies are timeless.

[The Morningstar]

On that note, Hook is awesome. Don't know whether that's unpopular though.

[El Payaso]

It absolutely is.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

"Planet Of The Apes" is an alright movie.
Estalla Warren and Mark Wahlberg is abit non-entity but Helena Bonham Carter and Tim Roth make up for it.

The ending with the with the Abraham Lincoln ape statue also made me lol.

[Figs]

I'm not all that excited for Captain America.

I don't know if I'm still on a Thor high as well as really anticipating the new X-men film that comes out in less than a month, but I lost the excitement for Cap.

[Rowsdower!]

I'm not interested AT ALL in Bridesmaids, despite all the critical praise it's getting. I find Kristen Wiig, dull, unfunny, and (sorry to be sexist here) completely unattractive. How she keeps landing all of these parts is beyond me.

[Blackman]

-Im not looking forward to GL that much. I hope it turns out good, but theres nothing that that interesting to me. The only reason Im probably seeing it in theaters is to support DC which will hopefully lead into more DC character movies
-Let Me In>>>>>Let the Right One In (i think I said this one before but I forget)
-I dont think Jennifer Lawrence is a good Katniss for The Hunger Games
-I dont want another Arnold Terminator film.

[Figs]

I dont want another Arnold Terminator film.

I agree with you there. Much like the Punisher, both franchises need to take a very long break.

[Parker Wayne]

-I dont think Jennifer Lawrence is a good Katniss for The Hunger Games
-I dont want another Arnold Terminator film.

I don't think these are unpopular. A lot of people say Lawrence is miscast simply because she looks too old for the role.

And at this point I don't think anyone cares about Terminator anymore.

[Doctor Jones]

Et tu? Hasn't pretty much the majority of people been masturbating to that film since before we even had a trailer :confused:

Not everyone. There's a very small minority, but the fact that Figs is within that warrants it. Which makes it more heartbreaking. :csad:

[Majik1387]

So Newsies is a pretty horrible movie. :huh:

[Doctor Jones]

I'm mixed on War Horse. I'll wait for a trailer yeah. But I do think Spielberg could do better. But I could be proven wrong. We could be underestimating it. Hiddelston and Cumbernatch are in it, so that has me interested.

And I love Close Encounters. The ending leaves me in awe. Those last 20 minutes or so makes me lost within it. My jaw hangs open from it all. It's just so beautiful.

God, I would love Spielberg to do a western. Plus I want to see him reunite with DiCaprio.

[Figs]

Not everyone. There's a very small minority, but the fact that Figs is within that warrants it. Which makes it more heartbreaking. :csad:

:woot:

I'm going to see it still. Just not sure if I want to see it in the theatre. I'll probably break down though.

[dude love]

-I dont want another Arnold Terminator film.

I agree. But to the extent I don't want Arnold as a Terminator. If he plays a human I wont fuss.

[Ipodman]

He should just do the Liam Neeson thing and be the "mentor" character...

[Doctor Jones]

:woot:

I'm going to see it still. Just not sure if I want to see it in the theatre. I'll probably break down though.

You'll see. You'll be the person who loves it the most on the Hype. :awesome:

[Doctor Jones]

Rock music or use of guitars in trailers aren't such a bad thing. But it depends on the nature of the film. It can really work if the right song is picked out and the type of film.

This isn't neccessarily rock music, but I could see this song playing in a trailer for a western.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snE9Ah8ydSY

[Xtroid]

Crystal Skull, although I don't care for it, is infinitely better than Temple of Doom which has got to be Spielberg's worst.

[Drizzle]

So Newsies is a pretty horrible movie. :huh:
I never liked Newsies. I don't care much for musicals unless they're about murderous plants or barbers, but a musical about a newsboys strike? Get that **** out of here.

Crystal Skull, although I don't care for it, is infinitely better than Temple of Doom which has got to be Spielberg's worst.
Temple of Doom isn't Spielberg's worst. That would be War of the Worlds.

[gwynplaine]

Or Always, or 1941, or Hook (sorry Hook lovers:o), or The Terminal...
TOD is flawed but still pretty great. I even think it's better than LC and that I know is unpopular:woot::cwink:

[Doctor Jones]

Nope, I'm glad you think so. Because at least TOD was something on the other end of the spectrum from Raiders. It was the exact opposite of what everyone expected. Each adventure should have its own identity. LC does with the father/son dynamic but the third act was too Raiders-esque, as good as those scenes were, but still...

I only prefer LC because of Connery and Ford's character interaction and relationship. This makes the movie. If this was not in it, then this movie would have been a straight up rehash.

[CelticPredator]

Hook is ****ing AWESOME.

So is Temple of Doom.

[Xtroid]

I don't what's "great" about Temple of Doom. It's racist, goofy and stupid. Then there's the annoying kid and Kate Capshaw, who gives one of the worst performances ever. And the story is shallow. The whole thing is just annoying and offensive. Not fun at all.

[CelticPredator]

It's only racist if you're racist. :o

[Dark Victory]

. I'm really excited for Robert Pattinson's performance in Cosmopolis. "All it takes is the right man behind the sculpture..."

. Not really an opinion, but my eyes are only irritated by certain 3D movies. For Avatar and Tron they were fine. Can't say the same for Drive Angry, Alice in Wonderland, Thor, and others.

[gwynplaine]

I was wondering was Thor shot in 3D or converted?
So far the only movies I really enjoyed in 3D were Avatar of course and then Toy Story 3.

[Parker Wayne]

Converted

[Parker Wayne]

. I'm really excited for Robert Pattinson's performance in Cosmopolis. "All it takes is the right man behind the sculpture..."

. Not really an opinion, but my eyes are only irritated by certain 3D movies. For Avatar and Tron they were fine. Can't say the same for Drive Angry, Alice in Wonderland, Thor, and others.

Tron and Avatar were both shot in 3D, had a big budget and immersed yourself in different worlds

I couldn't say the same about Drive Angry for 2 of the 3.

[Drizzle]

It's only racist if you're racist. :o
TOD is borderline racist at times. The part that sticks out in my mind is when Indy and Short Round are going down the passage way with the bugs and Short Round says "I feel like I step on fortune cookie!" Come on, now.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I enjoy the 2nd and 3rd acts of Full Metal Jacket more than the 1st. The first is definitely more memorable and was pretty stunning the first time I saw it; but with multiple viewings, I feel like the entire basic training part of the story loses it's luster while the rest of the film gets a little better, making it more well-rounded.

[gwynplaine]

Converted
Thank you. It felt like it.

[Parker Wayne]

And not an unpopular opinion, but more a unfortunate realization:

I wish I saw How to Train Your Dragon in 3D last year. I also wish I wasn't broke around that time last year to see it.

[Bunker]

TOD is borderline racist at times. The part that sticks out in my mind is when Indy and Short Round are going down the passage way with the bugs and Short Round says "I feel like I step on fortune cookie!" Come on, now.

Not racist, just ****ing terrible writing.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I'd love The Temple of Doom if Short Round had been violently murdered. Where's that special edition, Lucas?

[gwynplaine]

I enjoy the 2nd and 3rd acts of Full Metal Jacket more than the 1st. The first is definitely more memorable and was pretty stunning the first time I saw it; but with multiple viewings, I feel like the entire basic training part of the story loses it's luster while the rest of the film gets a little better, making it more well-rounded.
Good one. Pretty unpopular:up:
I love the first half of FMJ, once Hartman and Leonard Lawrence ("Gomer Pyle") exit the picture, it feels like just another Vietnam war movie to me. And I've seen better ones, Apocalypse Now and Platoon come to mind. But to each their own.

[Parker Wayne]

Btw, with dreamworks top film, How to Train Your Dragon > Shrek

[gwynplaine]

I'd love The Temple of Doom if Short Round had been violently murdered. Where's that special edition, Lucas?
The movie would have definitely been better:up:

[gwynplaine]

And not an unpopular opinion, but more a unfortunate realization:

I wish I saw How to Train Your Dragon in 3D last year. I also wish I wasn't broke around that time last year to see it.
Me too.

[Drizzle]

I don't know how unpopular this opinion is, but here it is:

STEVEN SODERBERGH SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO MAKE FILMS EVER AGAIN AND SHOULD BE CLEANING WINDSHIELDS ON THE HIGHWAY.

Now you may be asking yourself why I would say such a thing. Here's why:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Alex-Pettyfer-Playing-Channing-Tatum-In-Steven-Soderbergh-s-Male-Stripper-Movie-24689.html

[gwynplaine]

I don't know how unpopular this opinion is, but here it is:

STEVEN SODERBERGH SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO MAKE FILMS EVER AGAIN AND SHOULD BE CLEANING WINDSHIELDS ON THE HIGHWAY.

Now you may be asking yourself why I would say such a thing. Here's why:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Alex-Pettyfer-Playing-Channing-Tatum-In-Steven-Soderbergh-s-Male-Stripper-Movie-24689.html
I don't really care about Steven Soderbergh's films either:up:

[dude love]

He should just do the Liam Neeson thing and be the "mentor" character...

Actually doing the 'Liam Neeson thing' is now considered to be 'be a grumpy old man who punches people in the throat'.

[gwynplaine]

Haha:woot:

[Drizzle]

I don't think that John Travolta or Uma Thurman were all that great in Pulp Fiction, though I don't think either of them are bad actors. Travolta was pretty much overshadowed by Samuel L. Jackson the whole time At least Uma showed her acting chops in Kill Bill. I don't think either of them deserved Oscar noms for Pulp Fiction.

[gwynplaine]

Travolta's best role is probably Blow Out.
And Uma, Dangerous Liaisons, because she was naked most of the time:woot:

[dude love]

I don't really care about Steven Soderbergh's films either:up:

I've seen Solaris, The Good German and the Ocean's Trilogy, I thought Ocean's 12 freaken' sucked and the rest of them where solid if unspectacular.

[bullets]

I've seen Solaris, The Good German and the Ocean's Trilogy, I thought Ocean's 12 freaken' sucked and the rest of them where solid if unspectacular.


I've enjoyed some of his movies but I want an official apology for Ocean's 12

[Doctor Jones]

I love Ocean's Eleven. Clooney and Pitt together even brings out the estrogen in me.

[danoyse]

And not an unpopular opinion, but more a unfortunate realization:

I wish I saw How to Train Your Dragon in 3D last year. I also wish I wasn't broke around that time last year to see it.

I saw it in 3D. Liked it so much that I went back the next night and saw it again in 3D. It was that good.

[Dark Victory]

I don't know how unpopular this opinion is, but here it is:

STEVEN SODERBERGH SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO MAKE FILMS EVER AGAIN AND SHOULD BE CLEANING WINDSHIELDS ON THE HIGHWAY.

Now you may be asking yourself why I would say such a thing. Here's why:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Alex-Pettyfer-Playing-Channing-Tatum-In-Steven-Soderbergh-s-Male-Stripper-Movie-24689.html


Someone who can do stuff from Schizopolis to the Oceans trilogy leaves one hell of an impression on me. So many people disregard his smaller projects -- Girlfriend Experience, Eros, Bubble, Kafka. I liked The Informant a lot, too, which had something of a mixed response here.

[Dark Victory]

Tron and Avatar were both shot in 3D, had a big budget and immersed yourself in different worlds

I couldn't say the same about Drive Angry for 2 of the 3.

Well, yeah, it's obvious that the people behind them had better resources to work with, but I'd like to know more specifics of the 3D process.

[Parker Wayne]

I saw it in 3D. Liked it so much that I went back the next night and saw it again in 3D. It was that good.

I really regret not seeing that in 3D. I want a 3D tv just to see that in 3D.

[The Morningstar]

I've seen Solaris, The Good German and the Ocean's Trilogy, I thought Ocean's 12 freaken' sucked and the rest of them where solid if unspectacular.

Watch Out of Sight. Definitely his best movie.

[Bunker]

Count me in the "Soderbergh Sucks" camp. I can't stand his movies.

[Mako]

Count me in the "Soderbergh Sucks" camp. I can't stand his movies.

Glad to know I'm not the only one.

[dude love]

I'm currently reading the Inglourious Basterds script, Christopher Walken would've made an awesome Hans Landa!

[The Morningstar]

Battle: Los Angeles is a steaming pile. I don't know how they managed it, considering the premise of the story and the explosive set pieces, but it's gotta be one of the most boring films i've ever seen. And the acting, apart from Eckhart, is TV movie standard.

[Drizzle]

I'm currently reading the Inglourious Basterds script, Christopher Walken would've made an awesome Hans Landa!
It would have been cool to see Walken as Landa, but the fact of the matter is that Christoph Waltz owned the role. I'm not so sure anyone could have done the role justice like he did. I would have liked to see what Adam Sandler would have done in the role of Donny (the "Bear Jew"). He was originally offered the role but had to drop out and Eli Roth took over.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

The Resident Evil movies are quite fun B-movies. Resident |Evil has never been Shakespeare. It basically is a B-movie with terrible acting, story, characters, writing. It's campy, over-blown and an emulation of B-movies past.

Likewise with Street Fighter: The Movie as a B-movie it is awesome. Sure it doesn't follow Street Fighter exactly, it makes guile the hero instead of a Japanese person, because "America is dominate" but it was a cheeseball game from the start, who cares?

[SuperFerret]

Just saying, there is no one hero for the Street Fighter games.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

While that's true, I think Ryu is generally considered the lead hero of the game.

There a anime movie called "Street Fighter: Generations" that did attempt to add more story telling and deph regarding Ryu/Akuma. It was more about characters than a massive rooster of characters fighting every two minutes. I liked it, most people hate it. Akuma is basically a Anakin/Darth-Vader character.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mP3dHSX7EM

[SuperFerret]

Yeah... but Ryu is Japanese...

[Parker Wayne]

Just saying, there is no one hero for the Street Fighter games.

You're right, though Ryu's/Ken's adventures I would like to see the main point of Street Fighter movies.

[CelticPredator]

Battle: Los Angeles is a steaming pile. I don't know how they managed it, considering the premise of the story and the explosive set pieces, but it's gotta be one of the most boring films i've ever seen. And the acting, apart from Eckhart, is TV movie standard.
This is why I love you. This movie ****ing SUCKED.

[Dark Victory]

I would rather get ****ed by a red syphilitic horse than watch Battla: LA again.

[CelticPredator]

I'll still watch it again on Blu Ray....but still. It was craptastic.

[Doctor Jones]

I didn't even have to see it to know that sucks. The trailers were God awful. Cool for people who did dig it, but Jesus, did it look terrible to me.

I really have no plans to watch it. Maybe if it's on tv someday or if I'm forced at gun point.

[Parker Wayne]

It would have been cool to see Walken as Landa, but the fact of the matter is that Christoph Waltz owned the role. I'm not so sure anyone could have done the role justice like he did. I would have liked to see what Adam Sandler would have done in the role of Donny (the "Bear Jew"). He was originally offered the role but had to drop out and Eli Roth took over.

I would have loved to Adam Sandler as the Bear-Jew. Too bad he was filming Funny People at the time.

[Parker Wayne]

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[Tron Bonne]

I liked TS3 and all, but after finally seeing it, The Illusionist really should have taken home at that Best Animated Feature Oscar.

[Dark Victory]

I liked TS3 and all, but after finally seeing it, The Illusionist really should have taken home at that Best Animated Feature Oscar.


yeadoe

[Max J Power]

Someone who can do stuff from Schizopolis to the Oceans trilogy leaves one hell of an impression on me. So many people disregard his smaller projects -- Girlfriend Experience, Eros, Bubble, Kafka. I liked The Informant a lot, too, which had something of a mixed response here.
The Informant is really underrated. It would probably be in my top 10 for 2009.

Soderbergh's one of the better directors to debut in the last 25 years. I've seen The Informant, Ocean's 11, Sex Lies and Videotape, Solaris, Out of Sight, and Bubble, and I liked them all a lot.

[Bunker]

I didn't even have to see it to know that sucks. The trailers were God awful. Cool for people who did dig it, but Jesus, did it look terrible to me.

I really have no plans to watch it. Maybe if it's on tv someday or if I'm forced at gun point.

The teaser for it was actually really well done. It made it seem like it was more than just a USA USA USA invasion flick. I dunno.

[dude love]

It would have been cool to see Walken as Landa, but the fact of the matter is that Christoph Waltz owned the role. I'm not so sure anyone could have done the role justice like he did. I would have liked to see what Adam Sandler would have done in the role of Donny (the "Bear Jew"). He was originally offered the role but had to drop out and Eli Roth took over.

Waltz indeed owned the role. Reading through it, I can't help but wonder if Waltz improvised a lot of Landa's idiosyncrasies.

[CelticPredator]

Michael Bay is the best action director working today.

Anyone who complains about shaky cam in TF doesnt know jack about how much effects shots cost to produce. :o

[dude love]

Michael Bay is the best action director working today.

Anyone who complains about shaky cam in TF doesnt know jack about how much effects shots cost to produce. :o

The guy on the right is the best action director working today.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll174/dudelove/2355470977_ba86637a4a.jpg

[Doctor Jones]

The teaser for it was actually really well done. It made it seem like it was more than just a USA USA USA invasion flick. I dunno.

I didn't even like the teaser. That ambient sound was irritating. :dry:

[Dark Victory]

I didn't even like the teaser. That ambient sound was irritating. :dry:


I didn't like it either. Imo, The trailer for The Social Network is such a tantalizing work because it structures emotion (humor, loathing -- outward and inward, sadness, it's all there) so well with its images and sound. The trailer for Battla: LA is just...images and sound. The trailer for Grown Ups at least had consistency with the gross-out cliches. :o

[Dark Victory]

The Informant is really underrated. It would probably be in my top 10 for 2009.

Soderbergh's one of the better directors to debut in the last 25 years. I've seen The Informant, Ocean's 11, Sex Lies and Videotape, Solaris, Out of Sight, and Bubble, and I liked them all a lot.

I need to check out Everything is Going Fine, Good German, K Street, King of the Hill. Haven't seen Traffic, the Oceans trilogy and Solaris in awhile, so I need to rewatch those.

He's also really entertaining to listen to on DVD commentaries. The Third Man, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, The Graduate, Clean Shaven, not to mention his own movies.

[gwynplaine]

I didn't like it either. Imo, The trailer for The Social Network is such a tantalizing work because it structures emotion (humor, loathing -- outward and inward, sadness, it's all there) so well with its images and sound. The trailer for Battla: LA is just...images and sound. The trailer for Grown Ups at least had consistency with the gross-out cliches. :o
I don't believe it's really that unpopular to hate on Battle: LA.
By now, everyone knows it sucks or should, I think.
You know what other trailer is great? Green Lantern's. It has the emotion, humor, self-loathing and sadness you're talking about. Hopefully it lives up to my expectations:woot:

[Yurka]

I've never been able to get into any Terrance Malick film, I've given them chances but they just don't do it for me, I have high hopes for Tree of Life though because I think it looks beautiful.

[gwynplaine]

I've never been able to get into any Terrance Malick film, I've given them chances but they just don't do it for me, I have high hopes for Tree of Life though because I think it looks beautiful.
I can relate.
Watched The Tree of Life trailer today and unfortunately I don't have such high hopes as you. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
I enjoyed Badlands though.

[CelticPredator]

Green Lantern's trailer is OK. It hasnt excited me at all. But...that's not to say i'm looking forward to it. Reynolds, and Campbell are the two biggest sellers IMO.

[Dark Victory]

I don't believe it's really that unpopular to hate on Battle: LA.

Definitely, I just wanted to join in. :oldrazz:
You know what other trailer is great? Green Lantern's. It has the emotion, humor, self-loathing and sadness you're talking about. Hopefully it lives up to my expectations:woot:

I saw it with Thor and I didn't like it at all. I like a lot of people involved, so we'll see how it turns out.

[Parker Wayne]

I've never been able to get into any Terrance Malick film, I've given them chances but they just don't do it for me, I have high hopes for Tree of Life though because I think it looks beautiful.

Malick is very philosophical and it takes many views to understand what he does at times.

[Majik1387]

Horror movies have actually been good this year. :up:

[JAK®]

I'm not sure how unpopular this opinion is but the 2005 remake of King Kong by Peter Jackson wasn't that great. It had no business being three hours long and it had very little to say for itself. It was basically Peter Jackson being a geek over the original. The effects for Kong himself were amazing though.

[CelticPredator]

^ That's popular.

I love the hell out of it, and saw it 3 times in the theater. That's unpopular. :awesome:

[JAK®]

I remembered nothing but praise from when it came out. I guess time revealed it's true colours.

[Bunker]

I've never been able to get into any Terrance Malick film, I've given them chances but they just don't do it for me, I have high hopes for Tree of Life though because I think it looks beautiful.

I like you.

Also, ****ing love King Kong. My favorite part is the first hour oddly enough.

[Dark Victory]

Malick is very philosophical and it takes many views to understand what he does at times.

That definitely fits him, but I'm not too sure if I understand, or really get, philosophy, not to mention its apparent role in Malick's movies. Still, he's one of my favorite filmmakers because his knowledge of human senses and their roles in film is transcending for me; his aesthetic results present a new way of watching movies. In all of his movies, thoughts translate to images, which become memories of feelings for these characters, and these images are indelible inside these cinematic bubbles, so the universes are of infinitum. That probably makes little sense, but I really can't express how much I love the man's work.

"Words are meaningless, especially sentences..."

Maybe Bjork and Madonna are into Malick, too :o

[gwynplaine]

As flawed as it is Jackson's King Kong is awesome.
I933 KK is better though.

[Dark Victory]

As flawed as it is Jackson's King Kong is awesome.
I933 KK is better though.


Definitely. I love both, but there's no comparison.

[The Morningstar]

Ok this might not be unpopular at all but...

The Star Wars Prequels were SO bad... I honestly question whether George Lucas is responsible for the original trilogy being so good. Either that, or he completely forgot how to make a Star Wars film and just threw in a load of Lightsaber fights to appease the fanboys and try to hide the fact that the prequels really were steaming piles.

[Bunker]

Your first time on the internet?

[some guy]

Ok this might not be unpopular at all but...

The Star Wars Prequels were SO bad... I honestly question whether George Lucas is responsible for the original trilogy being so good. Either that, or he completely forgot how to make a Star Wars film and just threw in a load of Lightsaber fights to appease the fanboys and try to hide the fact that the prequels really were steaming piles.

Well, he did only direct the first one.

[CelticPredator]

Cloverfield is underrated. Anyone who hated the style, or got sick was just ignorant. Trailers. Watch them.

[The Morningstar]

Your first time on the internet?

lol well i know the prequels are not liked. But I think they were worse than bad... they were atrociously bad. So much so that like I said, I doubt that Lucas had anything to do with the original movies being great.

[Xtroid]

Ok this might not be unpopular at all but...

The Star Wars Prequels were SO bad... I honestly question whether George Lucas is responsible for the original trilogy being so good. Either that, or he completely forgot how to make a Star Wars film and just threw in a load of Lightsaber fights to appease the fanboys and try to hide the fact that the prequels really were steaming piles.

Yeah...

http://i52.tinypic.com/fa5rgm.gif

OOooh OMG LOOK AT THE LIGHTSABERS! LOOK AT THE LIGHTSABERS!

This is what a real sword fight looks like, trust me.

[The Morningstar]

lol yea, in the original movies lightsabers used to be cool. In the prequels I was just like "oh... another overly choreographed lightsaber fight? zzzzzz"

And having Yoda use a lightsaber because it looks cool was the dumbest thing ever. He was supposed to be the personification of mind over matter.

[Xtroid]

lol yea, in the original movies lightsabers used to be cool. In the prequels I was just like "oh... another overly choreographed lightsaber fight? zzzzzz"

And having Yoda use a lightsaber because it looks cool was the dumbest thing ever. He was supposed to be the personification of mind over matter.

The prequel fight scenes are idiotic. I always find it funny when people say that Obi-Wan and Vader couldn't move very good in the original film because one was old and the other was a robot. So, old guys like Christoper Lee and Ian McDiarmid can do all that jumping around crap, but Alec Guinness can't?

[Thebumwhowalks]

lol well i know the prequels are not liked. But I think they were worse than bad... they were atrociously bad. So much so that like I said, I doubt that Lucas had anything to do with the original movies being great.

There are very few artists, who once made great works of art, who do not hit creative slumps in their careers, slumps at the other end of the scale, ie pure crap.
The thing about Lucas is that getting that first SW film off the ground burnt him out creatively as a director, the guy was hospitalised by the end of the shoot due to the strain of getting everyone else to follow his vision, there was basically no-one on that set who believed in what they were doing apart from him, so it made Lucas' job all the more of a strain. You should read about it sometime, it sounded like a complete nightmare for the guy.
So he quit directing after that, only to take up the reigns again with the prequels. He did not have the usual creative run of practicing artists, where they hit highs and lows, creative comebacks etc, he had a good creative run with three highly regarded films in the 70s, then came back with three not so highly regarded films decades later. The creative high and lows of a career distilled if you will.
To discredit his creative ownership of the earlier great works because of the later slumps is a fallacy.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Ok this might not be unpopular at all but...

The Star Wars Prequels were SO bad... I honestly question whether George Lucas is responsible for the original trilogy being so good. Either that, or he completely forgot how to make a Star Wars film and just threw in a load of Lightsaber fights to appease the fanboys and try to hide the fact that the prequels really were steaming piles.
I watched The Phantom Menace for the first time since it came out in theaters in 1999 a few weeks ago and I despised it. It didn't feel like a Star Wars movie at all. I feel the trilogy is the measuring stick and guide for all Star Wars stories that came out after it and Episode I doesn't even come close to matching up. It felt like an insult to the Star Wars legacy. I truly hate that movie.

I'd like to think that the creator of the franchise had given the rights to his brainchild to somebody who was in over his head with a series of bad ideas who just didn't really understand the material, but I can't. It was the creator and that makes it worse.


And having Yoda use a lightsaber because it looks cool was the dumbest thing ever. He was supposed to be the personification of mind over matter.
I'm sure the only reason we saw Yoda use a lightsaber was because they had the technology to make it happen.

[The Morningstar]

There are very few artists, who once made great works of art, who do not hit creative slumps in their careers, slumps at the other end of the scale, ie pure crap.
The thing about Lucas is that getting that first SW film off the ground burnt him out creatively as a director, the guy was hospitalised by the end of the shoot due to the strain of getting everyone else to follow his vision, there was basically no-one on that set who believed in what they were doing apart from him, so it made Lucas' job all the more of a strain. You should read about it sometime, it sounded like a complete nightmare for the guy.
So he quit directing after that, only to take up the reigns again with the prequels. He did not have the usual creative run of practicing artists, where they hit highs and lows, creative comebacks etc, he had a good creative run with three highly regarded films in the 70s, then came back with three not so highly regarded films decades later. The creative high and lows of a career distilled if you will.
To discredit his creative ownership of the earlier great works because of the later slumps is a fallacy.

Or maybe it was because when he made the first trilogy he didn't have a bunch of "yes men" around him? He had people to rein him in when he was coming up with stupid ideas? With the prequels he had no one there reining him in. No one to say "George, you know, I don't think that will work". That producer, McCallum is it? He was a ****ing moron. He just let Lucas do whatever the hell he wanted. Look what happened. I don't know if you have seen the behind the scenes footage of the making of the Phantom Menance, but it's pretty clear none of them had a clue about what they were doing.

It isn't just a slump with the prequels... it was a nose dive. The things that made the original trilogy so great were not there in the prequels in any shape or form.

I'm not denying Lucas is a very imaginative man. He comes up with great ideas. But I question whether he is a great filmmaker.

I watched The Phantom Menace for the first time since it came out in theaters in 1999 a few weeks ago and I despised it. It didn't feel like a Star Wars movie at all. I feel the trilogy is the measuring stick and guide for all Star Wars stories that came out after it and Episode I doesn't even come close to matching up. It felt like an insult to the Star Wars legacy. I truly hate that movie.

It is an insult to the original films. Seemed to me the prequels were made just to cash in on the Star Wars brand.


I'd like to think that the creator of the franchise had given the rights to his brainchild to somebody who was in over his head with a series of bad ideas who just didn't really understand the material, but I can't. It was the creator and that makes it worse.Yea. Like I said, Lucas either completely forgot what made the original movies so special... or he wasn't entirely responsible for them being brilliant in the first place.


I'm sure the only reason we saw Yoda use a lightsaber was because they had the technology to make it happen.Well yea exactly. I remember an interview of Lucas years and years ago, where he was saying special effects should compliment the story, help drive the story... not overshadow the story completely. Seems he doesn't practice what he preaches.

[Yurka]

I can relate.
Watched The Tree of Life trailer today and unfortunately I don't have such high hopes as you. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
I enjoyed Badlands though.

I enjoyed Badlands the most out of his films :up:

Malick is very philosophical and it takes many views to understand what he does at times.

I understand what he's trying to do, to me it's just executed poorly. I could barely finish The Thin Red Line because I'd already listened to 2+ hours of whispers about internal dilemma's. The cinematography is always beautiful and thats one constant I enjoy about his films, and it looks like he's at his best in Tree of Life.

I like you.

Also, ****ing love King Kong. My favorite part is the first hour oddly enough.

:up:

I enjoy King Kong, I dont think I can sit through the whole thing again but there are certainly scenes I love and can re-watch (T-rex fight :awesome:)

[A Necessary Evil]

Here's an unpopular opinion.

George lucas did not rape my childhood.
The prequels are good.
Indy 4 is awesome.

[Thebumwhowalks]

Or maybe it was because when he made the first trilogy he didn't have a bunch of "yes men" around him? He had people to rein him in when he was coming up with stupid ideas? With the prequels he had no one there reining him in. No one to say "George, you know, I don't think that will work". That producer, McCallum is it? He was a ****ing moron. He just let Lucas do whatever the hell he wanted. Look what happened. I don't know if you have seen the behind the scenes footage of the making of the Phantom Menance, but it's pretty clear none of them had a clue about what they were doing.

It isn't just a slump with the prequels... it was a nose dive. The things that made the original trilogy so great were not there in the prequels in any shape or form.

I'm not denying Lucas is a very imaginative man. He comes up with great ideas. But I question whether he is a great filmmaker.



It is an insult to the original films. Seemed to me the prequels were made just to cash in on the Star Wars brand.

Yea. Like I said, Lucas either completely forgot what made the original movies so special... or he wasn't entirely responsible for them being brilliant in the first place.

Well yea exactly. I remember an interview of Lucas years and years ago, where he was saying special effects should compliment the story, help drive the story... not overshadow the story completely. Seems he doesn't practice what he preaches.

Re The yes men, yeah, this is probably true, he probably did have too many of them around in the days of the prequels, and some attribute some of the OT's success to producer Gary Kurtz. But by that same token, GK had some terrible ideas for the OT that he tried to push onto Lucas, I can't remember them all,

[Blackman]

Here's an unpopular opinion.

George lucas did not rape my childhood.
The prequels are good.
Indy 4 is awesome.

Yup

[Xtroid]

The prequels are good.

This may be the funniest thing I've read all day. :funny:

[The Morningstar]

The prequels didn't ruin my childhood. They were just **** movies :D

[Thebumwhowalks]

em, btw Morningstar, i typed up about 7 parapgraphs replying to your points, and I must've somehow deleted all of them, f knows how, lol.
anyway, I might type them all up again tomorrow, right now, no chance, wtf?! :doh:

[The Morningstar]

Hey no worries man. Take it to PMs if you want. I'm sure not everyone wants to have Star Wars prequel talk take up all this thread.

[Thebumwhowalks]

Hey no worries man. Take it to PMs if you want. I'm sure not everyone wants to have Star Wars prequel talk take up all this thread.

Yeah, the funny thing is, I know I didn't delete the post now, looking up at the post, it says the last time I edited it was 7 mins after i posted it, which is bs, I spent a good twenty mins at least on that post, and I saw the whole post up there right after I read Blackman's post after mine.

So...either there is a bug on the forum, or someone has hacked into my account and screwed around with it to make me look stupid or something. I wouldn't put it past some of the folk round here who hate my guts.

If only someone had magic powers and could go back and see what happened eh? lol

Also, it's pretty funny how it was a relatively well thought out post about film history and creativity that was deleted by some 'outside force', almost as if some folk out there are trying to delete any evidence that I can have an indepth discussion on film with the best of them. Yeah, that is pretty frickin funny, I guess when you have put so many folk on ignore list, the only headf*** option is to f*** with your account somehow.

[A Necessary Evil]

This may be the funniest thing I've read all day. :funny:

:awesome::awesome:

thanks for sharing.

[Doctor Jones]

I didn't like it either. Imo, The trailer for The Social Network is such a tantalizing work because it structures emotion (humor, loathing -- outward and inward, sadness, it's all there) so well with its images and sound. The trailer for Battla: LA is just...images and sound. The trailer for Grown Ups at least had consistency with the gross-out cliches. :o

TSN's trailer was amazing. Hell, all of them were. Even those first couple of one's without any footage. I was so intrigued by it.

I may even like the Scala's version of Creep better than Radiohead. And I love Radiohead.

[Drizzle]

Ok this might not be unpopular at all but...

The Star Wars Prequels were SO bad... I honestly question whether George Lucas is responsible for the original trilogy being so good. Either that, or he completely forgot how to make a Star Wars film and just threw in a load of Lightsaber fights to appease the fanboys and try to hide the fact that the prequels really were steaming piles.
Don't let George Lucas's daughter catch you saying that. She might eat you.

[Doctor Jones]

And regarding the remake of Kong, I love that first hour on the boat. It gives Jack a good reason as to why he would risk his ass to save Anne, a woman he barely knows. Without all of that happening, it wouldn't be very justified. I'd just look like a guy going after a hot chick wanting to get laid if he saved her. And by the end, hell, even in the last scene on Skull Island, their relationship is fractured. Seeing what they built up on the boat, and seeing Jack's journey to save her, her scenes with Kong, and the outcome of it all, makes it pretty sad actually. When she says, "Don't touch me!" to Jack when they trapped Kong to get him off the lisland, that was always a powerful thing to me. It was like she thought he was scum. And the look on his face. Genuine hurt.

[Drizzle]

As flawed as it is Jackson's King Kong is awesome.
I933 KK is better though.

Definitely. I love both, but there's no comparison.
Why, just because it's the original? Here's an unpopular opinion: I liked Jackson's version better. There was way more character development in the 2005 remake. Kong had a personality besides just being a big dumb brute and Ann understood him. In the original, all she did was scream.

[gwynplaine]

Why, just because it's the original? Here's an unpopular opinion: I liked Jackson's version better. There was way more character development in the 2005 remake. Kong had a personality besides just being a big dumb brute and Ann understood him. In the original, all she did was scream.
No, just because it's a great film. I thought Kong had a personality too and I just love the movie. But like I said before I also love Jackson remake (Guillermin not so much)
Jackson obviously had tremendous love and respect for the original and it shows in his movie. Kong is fantastic and his relationship with Ann (a perfect Naomi Watts) perfectly conveys the Beauty and the Beast aspect of the story.
I also Love the amazing T-Rex fight too of course.
What I didn't like was how miscast Black and Brody were. The boat trip was too long, the indigenous tribe a little bit ott and Skull Island a little too long as well.
But all in all, it's a great love letter to the original and a fantastic cinematic experience in its own right.
Also I discovered the original when I was a kid and, like Jackson, it more or less started a lifelong passion for cinema and made me want to become a film maker as well.

[Parker Wayne]

I just felt that King Kong was too long, and Jackson was trying too hard to make an epic blockbuster.

[gwynplaine]

Nothing wrong with trying to make an epic blockbuster, just as long as it's good imo.
But I agree the movie was too long.
_ Just started playing L.A. Noire. Rockstar Games is the new Spielberg:woot:
Which brings me to Tintin.
_ Love the teaser/trailer. People seem to be complaining about the dead eyes. Not a problem for me. If they respected Herge's spirit, the movie is going to be awesome.

[SuperFerret]

I have no desire to see Tintin and I'm kind of disappointed that this is the comic property that gets this level of talent behind it.

[gwynplaine]

I take it you're not very familiar with the original comic books.
Herge was Spielberg, before there was a Spielberg:woot:

[SuperFerret]

I take it you're not very familiar with the original comic books.

I'm familiar enough to know that the story of a globe-trotting boy reporter and his dog is the type of fiction that irritates me.

Herge was Spielberg, before there was a Spielberg:woot:

So?

[Parker Wayne]

Well, the problem for me is that I think he tried too hard and squeezed much into movie as he could. Just as a movie can be too short and that screws up a movie (like the Last Airbender), it can also be the opposite and be too long and really mess up the movie.

And Rockstar games, along with Bioware are two of the best game companies. Between GTA IV, Red Dead Redemption, and LA Noire, and Bioware's Mass Effect series and Dragon Age series, we're going to have a hit video game adaptation by the end of this decade

[gwynplaine]

I'm familiar enough to know that the story of a globe-trotting boy reporter and his dog is the type of fiction that irritates me.



So?
_ I recommend you read the comic books, because it's much more than that. You're in for a treat, dude.
_ So nothing. I love Spielberg and Herge equally. There is a reason why Jackson and Spielberg were attracted to that material in the 1st place. If you read the comics, there is a good chance you will get it too.
But to each their own.

[gwynplaine]

Well, the problem for me is that I think he tried too hard and squeezed much into movie as he could. Just as a movie can be too short and that screws up a movie (like the Last Airbender), it can also be the opposite and be too long and really mess up the movie.

And Rockstar games, along with Bioware are two of the best game companies. Between GTA IV, Red Dead Redemption, and LA Noire, and Bioware's Mass Effect series and Dragon Age series, we're going to have a hit video game adaptation by the end of this decade
:up:

[SuperFerret]

I've already made my mind up on the comics. I'm not reading them. Give me something fantastical and then you'll have my interest.

And I still don't get your second point.

[gwynplaine]

I've already made my mind up on the comics. I'm not reading them. Give me something fantastical and then you'll have my interest.

And I still don't get your second point.
:huh: (It's very fantastical.)
Anyway, your loss:woot:
And no second point.

[Parker Wayne]

I have no desire to see Tintin and I'm kind of disappointed that this is the comic property that gets this level of talent behind it.

I understand where you're coming from. You'd rather have them attached to something that captures your interest more, and that's understandable.

But at the same time, there's got to be something special about this series that got this level of talent attached, and I'm intrigued to find personally.

EDIT: there's a trailer out? Gotta go see it!

[Parker Wayne]

After watching I must say that while I'm intrigued by the story, I'd prefer if this movie wasn't CGI motion capture. I would've been a hell of a lot more impressed and into this movie if it wasn't.

[ALP]

I hate 3D. I have no plan to see anymore films in 3D, it does not enhance the viewing for me, it just dulls the color and add nothing as far as I'm concerned.

[Parker Wayne]

Definitely not unpopular by any stretch.

[ALP]

Tell that to Thor's box office!

I can only thank the heavens that Nolan is not using the dreaded 3D on TDKR.

[Crockett]

After watching I must say that while I'm intrigued by the story, I'd prefer if this movie wasn't CGI motion capture. I would've been a hell of a lot more impressed and into this movie if it wasn't.

Tintin is a popular comics series, they define adventures and it appeal to many type of audience, young or old. I'd prefer hand-drawn animation, I wasn't impressed when they do a live-action adaptation of Tintin before and I'm not sure I want to see one, doing one in live-action just doesn't really captured the style of the comics. Granted it's Spielberg and he would approach it differently but like I said I'd prefer hand-drawn. It looks pretty good as CGI and I like making it more stylished that the usual so it's closer to Hergé's art but I'm a bit worried if it's like Zemeckis' past efforts in CGI motion-capture. They used the "Avatar" techology for the motion-capture in this one so it should be better than I guess.

[Rowsdower!]

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is the most overrated Western of all time. Fistful of Dollars puts it to shame. Eastwood is utilized so much better in that movie.

[SuperFerret]

:huh: (It's very fantastical.)
Anyway, your loss:woot:
And no second point.

How?

[Parker Wayne]

Tell that to Thor's box office!


That's because people are forced to watch it in 3D, not because they like 3D.

[gwynplaine]

How?
I'm not sure what you mean by fantastical. Anyway, no need to elaborate or have a discussion if you haven't read the comics. If you want to talk about Tintin, just read them. They are classics and like I said it might help you understand why Spielberg, Jackson and millions of other people are big fan of Herge in the first place. Or don't read them. I'm not related to Herge and don't really care:woot:

[ALP]

That's because people are forced to watch it in 3D, not because they like 3D.

Isn't it awful... I love IMAX but when movies are in 3D that is the only option with IMAX. That is why I simply had to opt to see Thor in normal theaters. They're not getting my money for crappy 3D.

I'm not sure what you mean by fantastical. Anyway, no need to elaborate if you haven't read the comics. If you want to talk about Tintin, just read them. They are classics and like I said it might help you understand why Spielberg, Jackson and millions of other people are big fan of Herge in the first place.

Are the Tintin comics available in tpb? I'm really interested in reading them but I hate having to search for 100 different single comics.

[gwynplaine]

Isn't it awful... I love IMAX but when movies are in 3D that is the only option with IMAX. That is why I simply had to opt to see Thor in normal theaters. They're not getting my money for crappy 3D.



Are the Tintin comics available in tpb? I'm really interested in reading them but I hate having to search for 100 different single comics.
I don't know, I think so, but anyway they are almost all great up until "Flight 714", which is like about 20 graphic novels (albums.) The early ones are my favorites.

[Max J Power]

And Rockstar games, along with Bioware are two of the best game companies. Between GTA IV, Red Dead Redemption, and LA Noire, and Bioware's Mass Effect series and Dragon Age series, we're going to have a hit video game adaptation by the end of this decade
Unpopular video game opinion: I don't have much interest in action games (which is what most of the big releases are) at all. I just don't care enough about the character building and collecting aspects to really get into them. I'm not really a big gamer though; I think I've only played 10 or so games that came out in 2010, and only a couple from this year.

I might play LA Noire if my brother or one of my friends buys it, because I love it that someone made a classic noir style game.

[Tron Bonne]

Are the Tintin comics available in tpb? I'm really interested in reading them but I hate having to search for 100 different single comics.

They are. You can get three or four books in one HC for a great price:

http://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Tintin-America-Pharaoh-Complete/dp/0316359408/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305695208&sr=8-1

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The prequels didn't ruin my childhood. They were just **** movies :D
They're ruining the childhoods of today's children. :oldrazz:

[JAK®]

I hate 3D. I have no plan to see anymore films in 3D, it does not enhance the viewing for me, it just dulls the color and add nothing as far as I'm concerned.
Heh, you'd like to believe this was an unpopular opinion wouldn't you?

[Parker Wayne]

With Star Wars, people who whine about wanting the original unaltered versions annoy me most. I understand wanting it, but I can't see anything Star Wars related without someone commenting about that, and I hate that they act like Star Wars is the worst thing ever. If you want to be mad at someone, take it out on George Lucas, but don't take it out on Star Wars.

Also, I really hate that every single change pisses them off. Really? Those guys are going to complain about Sebastian Shaw, a guy who's been in the series for 10 seconds was replaced by Hayden Christensen, a guy who spent 2 whole movies as Anakin. I prefer Christiansen in the end scene of ROTJ (despite his acting) because it makes more sense within the continuity George Lucas creates, but people use as unjustified fuel for stupidity.

Also, he did release the DVDs of the original trilogy unaltered, and people still complain because it isn't remastered. Well, you can't have it both ways. There is a remastered trilogy, but with George Lucas' vision to it. Yes, some are stupid (including the music part of ROTJ and a certain guy not shooting first), but none of the changes ruin the trilogy like crazed fans like people to believe.

[Thebumwhowalks]

With Star Wars, people who whine about wanting the original unaltered versions annoy me most. I understand wanting it, but I can't see anything Star Wars related without someone commenting about that, and I hate that they act like Star Wars is the worst thing ever. If you want to be mad at someone, take it out on George Lucas, but don't take it out on Star Wars.

Also, I really hate that every single change pisses them off. Really? Those guys are going to complain about Sebastian Shaw, a guy who's been in the series for 10 seconds was replaced by Hayden Christensen, a guy who spent 2 whole movies as Anakin. I prefer Christiansen in the end scene of ROTJ (despite his acting) because it makes more sense within the continuity George Lucas creates, but people use as unjustified fuel for stupidity.

Also, he did release the DVDs of the original trilogy unaltered, and people still complain because it isn't remastered. Well, you can't have it both ways. There is a remastered trilogy, but with George Lucas' vision to it. Yes, some are stupid (including the music part of ROTJ and a certain guy not shooting first), but none of the changes ruin the trilogy like crazed fans like people to believe.

To the bolded part: Spielberg released both the original version of ET remastered on dvd, as well as the SE version with the terrible CG/inferior scenes/guns into walkie talkies additions.
People just want the movies unaltered and remastered, I don't think that was too much to ask, some of the scenes are runied now, take the infamous Greedo/Solo scene, is there anyone on earth who is clued up about that who can sit and watch that scene, getting the original cool kick, without thinking about all the controversy, never mind the awkward way he altered the scene? It's annoying, and screws up the introduction scene to one of the main characters of the saga.

and who said every single change pisses off the old school fans? You're being a bit hyperbolic there, while at the same time accusing them of being so. I personally think the dvd SE of ESB is superior to the original(apart from Boba Fett's voice being altered), but I think there are very annoying changes to ANH and ROTJ that spoil certain scenes. There is an old saying about a great artist knowing when to leave a work of art as it is, and George just went back to the painting and overdid some of it, where before it was simple and elegantly done.

[Parker Wayne]

Hans the "certain guy" in my post so of course I thought that was stupid.

I'm talking more about certain Star Wars fanboys who are like that.

[Xtroid]

Also, I really hate that every single change pisses them off. Really? Those guys are going to complain about Sebastian Shaw, a guy who's been in the series for 10 seconds was replaced by Hayden Christensen, a guy who spent 2 whole movies as Anakin. I prefer Christiansen in the end scene of ROTJ (despite his acting) because it makes more sense within the continuity George Lucas creates, but people use as unjustified fuel for stupidity.

Rubbish. Darth Vader redeemed himself at the end of ROTJ before he died, so Sebastian Shaw should've remained as the spirit of Anakin alongside Alec Guinness and old Yoda. Hayden Christensen (who looks like he either is posing for a magazine cover or wants to rape Luke) had no business replacing him.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9309/spirits1997.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2862/spirits2004.jpg

Sebastian Shaw >>>>>>>>> Hayden Christensen

I mean, do you think Hayden Christensen will ever have an X-Men villain named after HIM? I think NOT. :cwink:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/spiritsxp7.png/

[Thebumwhowalks]

Hans the "certain guy" in my post so of course I thought that was stupid.

I'm talking more about certain Star Wars fanboys who are like that.

Well, if you feel the Solo scene was so stupid, and agree that it ruins the introduction scene of an important character, why do you think it is stupid for 'certain Sw fans' to want to have the unaltered versions of the films remastered?

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Also, I really hate that every single change pisses them off. Really? Those guys are going to complain about Sebastian Shaw, a guy who's been in the series for 10 seconds was replaced by Hayden Christensen, a guy who spent 2 whole movies as Anakin. I prefer Christiansen in the end scene of ROTJ (despite his acting) because it makes more sense within the continuity George Lucas creates, but people use as unjustified fuel for stupidity.



Yes. It's sacrilege. If it aint broke don't fix it. Let's just mess with all the old classic movies. Let's replace Short-round with a digitally inserted Shia LaBeouf in 'Temple of Doom'. Brilliant!

And the guy above me is right. Hayden Christensen does look like a creepy rapist in that scene (I wish Chris Hanson would have been digitally inserted into that scene too, so he could tell Hayden to "have a seat")

Dude, just face facts. George Lucas hasn't done anything worthwhile since the first forty minutes of 'Return of the Jedi'. :o And not content with making new terrible movies, he has to crap all over his old ones too.

[JJJ's Ulcer]

My unpopular film opinion is 'Cable Guy' is my favorite Jim Carrey movie, even though most critics hated it and said it was "too dark" (because at the time they were only used to him talking out of his butt).

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Also, he did release the DVDs of the original trilogy unaltered, and people still complain because it isn't remastered. Well, you can't have it both ways. There is a remastered trilogy, but with George Lucas' vision to it. Yes, some are stupid (including the music part of ROTJ and a certain guy not shooting first), but none of the changes ruin the trilogy like crazed fans like people to believe.
Those versions are the movies that I grew up with, that made me fall in love with Star Wars, and that mean a lot to me. To be indirectly told those aren't the "real" versions or they don't really matter anymore is an insult. He can change the movies all he wants and I'd be fine with that, just as long as he would give the versions that made him a millionaire and gave him world wide fame the treatment they deserve.

My unpopular film opinion is 'Cable Guy' is my favorite Jim Carrey movie, even though most critics hated it and said it was "too dark" (because at the time they were only used to him talking out of his butt).
I always liked The Cable Guy.

[Drizzle]

While we're talking Star Wars changes, I much prefer the music in the special edition ROTJ ending to the original. You don't end an epic trilogy with an Ewok sing-along. :o

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is more powerful than
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[Parker Wayne]

Rubbish. Darth Vader redeemed himself at the end of ROTJ before he died, so Sebastian Shaw should've remained as the spirit of Anakin alongside Alec Guinness and old Yoda. Hayden Christensen (who looks like he either is posing for a magazine cover or wants to rape Luke) had no business replacing him.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9309/spirits1997.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2862/spirits2004.jpg

Sebastian Shaw >>>>>>>>> Hayden Christensen

I mean, do you think Hayden Christensen will ever have an X-Men villain named after HIM? I think NOT. :cwink:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/spiritsxp7.png/

But it makes more sense to have Hayden in there than to keep Shaw. If he redemmed himself, why would he look like an old man, especially considering that Vader's body was burned and I'm sure force ghost wouldn't necessarily heal your body. It makes more sense to have his body look like what he looked like before he's burns than some random looking guy we've never before.

Well, if you feel the Solo scene was so stupid, and agree that it ruins the introduction scene of an important character, why do you think it is stupid for 'certain Sw fans' to want to have the unaltered versions of the films remastered?

Admittedly he does go overboard, but I just don't think any of the change ruin the films as a whole. Yes, they ruin some scenes but not even that scene I felt ruined the character as a whole or the films.

Yes. It's sacrilege. If it aint broke don't fix it. Let's just mess with all the old classic movies. Let's replace Short-round with a digitally inserted Shia LaBeouf in 'Temple of Doom'. Brilliant!

And the guy above me is right. Hayden Christensen does look like a creepy rapist in that scene (I wish Chris Hanson would have been digitally inserted into that scene too, so he could tell Hayden to "have a seat")

Dude, just face facts. George Lucas hasn't done anything worthwhile since the first forty minutes of 'Return of the Jedi'. :o And not content with making new terrible movies, he has to crap all over his old ones too.
Those versions are the movies that I grew up with, that made me fall in love with Star Wars, and that mean a lot to me. To be indirectly told those aren't the "real" versions or they don't really matter anymore is an insult. He can change the movies all he wants and I'd be fine with that, just as long as he would give the versions that made him a millionaire and gave him world wide fame the treatment they deserve.


Guys, he's already put out the old version on DVD, but people seem to forget that.

I would say I'm talking more about those extreme examples, and I was a bit pissed off over comments of people resenting all of Star Wars because of the changes instead directing anger at George Lucas.

[ALP]

Heh, you'd like to believe this was an unpopular opinion wouldn't you?

So most people here also hate 3D? That brings warm feelings to my heart:hrt:


LOL @ the suggestion to replace Short Round with a digital Shia Labeouf. I can see George Lucas talking Spielberg into doing that:awesome:

[Xtroid]

If he redemmed himself, why would he look like an old man, especially considering that Vader's body was burned and I'm sure force ghost wouldn't necessarily heal your body. It makes more sense to have his body look like what he looked like before he's burns than some random looking guy we've never before....

Yeah the force wouldn't restore your body, that's why young Anakin force ghost's limbs are fine and his burn scars are gone...

And that "random looking guy" was Anakin aka Darth Vader. The audience just saw him on the Death Star, remember? He was dying in Luke's arms.

Even if I wanted to be reminded of the prequels when I watch Return of the Jedi, which I don't, having the young Anakin return at the end doesn't work at all. Everything Anakin did is simply erased. It was the old Anakin that gave up his hate, that struggled with his own soul, it was the old Anakin that gave up his life to save his son and end the Sith forever. Having the young Anakin show up not only erases all the evil he did, it also erases his sacrifice and redemption.

Adding Hayden Christensen over Sebastian Shaw is also insulting to Shaw.

[Doctor Jones]

Wow... SW complaints are the definition of deja vu.

We've heard them all before. About 20 trillion times. They're not going to change for you. No matter how much you whine about it. Stick to the ones that you love and pretend the things that you hate don't exist. Stop whining about it because it's not going to do anything. Other than increasing your hate which will get you nowhere.

The ironic thing is, there has been absolutely no progress in dealing with these changes among SW fans when they want progress for these films themselves.

People have the right to choose what they like, love and hate about these films. It's as simple as that. I respect Lucas and his vision and his changes completely. You know, his films. Because SW fans think they know better than the man who created them in the first place. But hey, if you think you know better and think he's insane, you can go on for the rest of your life thinking so. Because he made the changes he wanted to make so deal with it. Or just ignore it. It's pretty easy to do.

You should at least have some respect for him. Because none of this, great or bad wouldn't be possible without him. He at least deserves that.

[Thebumwhowalks]

Wow... SW complaints are the definition of deja vu.

Well, people like yourself have complained about folk going on about the prequels and the SE changes in the official Sw thread, and now you are doing the same here, I guess you just don't like people complaining about SW. Why not just let people get on with their discussions?

edit: when i quoted you, this line was the only part of your post, so it seemed like you were just complaining without contributing, but still, you are basically just telling people they should stop complaining about SW.

[Doctor Jones]

I have yes. And I'm done with it. Because now I realize there's no ****ing point to it. Just like people complaining about SW should realize there's no point. People have the right to their opinion, but it gets out of control. Like it's their life or something and what they think about SW is gospel.

Lucas created and made decisions for his vision and creation. If people disagree with it, fine. People can choose whatever they want from it. But whatever they choose, it all still came from Lucas remember.

So I'll just let the people ***** and complain about Lucas while they pop in their original SW first edition movies and love it. Ohhh, the irony is so thick I can ****ing taste it in my spit.

[Thebumwhowalks]

Admittedly he does go overboard, but I just don't think any of the change ruin the films as a whole. Yes, they ruin some scenes but not even that scene I felt ruined the character as a whole or the films.


It ruined the classic introduction to Han Solo's character, so I can understand why some fans would rather have the remastered version of the original cut just for that scene only. But they really shouldn't have to put up with grainy footage just to be able to watch the film as it was originally conceived.

[Thebumwhowalks]

I have yes. And I'm done with it. Because now I realize there's no ****ing point to it. Just like people complaining about SW should realize there's no point. People have the right to their opinion, but it gets out of control. Like it's their life or something and what they think about SW is gospel.

Lucas created and made decisions for his vision and creation. If people disagree with it, fine. People can choose whatever they want from it. But whatever they choose, it all still came from Lucas remember.

So I'll just let the people ***** and complain about Lucas while they pop in their original SW first edition movies and love it. Ohhh, the irony is so thick I can ****ing taste it in my spit.

But, the problem is, if it is frowned upon, to the point where it is forbidden basically, to talk about these matters in the official SW thread, then you are going to get good threads like this clogged up with a lot of Sw talk. Like it or not, people are always going to discuss the Sw changes, and, y'know, sometimes it can be interesting, and go beyonfd SW and Lucas, as it raises many different questions about art, changing a scene for the sake of morality(the Solo/Greedo scene) and how one simple change can completely alter the charerterisation in a film scene(the Greedo scene and also, when Han chases the Troopers down the DS corridor, originally, it illustrated Han's crazy gung ho ness (even though he knew he was outnumbered, and probably scared, he covered up his fear by just charging at them), to a 'less cowardly' but less interesting and less funny, running away from a hundred troopers, not my observation btw, but a good one), whether modern sfx ruin the mood of older movies when added...it's interesting to see what people think about such changes to art and to have examples of how such some simple changes can have a massive impact on the art.

edit: and also, it is interesting to compare the PT to the OT, as they were guided by the same artist, and to examine exactly why one works for most people, and the other doesn't.

But, basically, i agree that the Sw talk should probably not be taking place in here, as it does go on a bit inevitably, but in the official Sw thread, which nowadays is basically taken up with folk talking about models, toys and imagining SW movies and shows they would like to see(when there are no CW eps to discuss), so it is not that interesting a thread at the moment tbh, this type of discussion should be taking place in there. If these types of discussions annoy you, just ignore them and talk around them.

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Admittedly he does go overboard, but I just don't think any of the change ruin the films as a whole. Yes, they ruin some scenes but not even that scene I felt ruined the character as a whole or the films.

It was just wholly unnecessary. It was also crapping on Sebastian Shaw's participation in the original film. If some people like the prequels, then okay they can have them and I'll ignore them. What I, and most people, hate is when that lame prequel mythology and continuity is shoehorned into the original holy trilogy. At least leave us that safe haven.



Guys, he's already put out the old version on DVD, but people seem to forget that.

Please inform my video store. Wasn't it released unmastered and for an extremely limited amount of time? I looked for it once and couldn't find it, only the special edition.



I would say I'm talking more about those extreme examples, and I was a bit pissed off over comments of people resenting all of Star Wars because of the changes instead directing anger at George Lucas.

Really? I see most ire directed squarely at Lucas. People love Star Wars (the first 3 movies anyway) and are sad at what's been done with the franchise since.

[Parker Wayne]

...

Yeah the force wouldn't restore your body, that's why young Anakin force ghost's limbs are fine and his burn scars are gone...

And that "random looking guy" was Anakin aka Darth Vader. The audience just saw him on the Death Star, remember? He was dying in Luke's arms.

Even if I wanted to be reminded of the prequels when I watch Return of the Jedi, which I don't, having the young Anakin return at the end doesn't work at all. Everything Anakin did is simply erased. It was the old Anakin that gave up his hate, that struggled with his own soul, it was the old Anakin that gave up his life to save his son and end the Sith forever. Having the young Anakin show up not only erases all the evil he did, it also erases his sacrifice and redemption.

Adding Hayden Christensen over Sebastian Shaw is also insulting to Shaw.

The thing is, I don't think people would be complaining about that if Anakin was written better in the original trilogy/Hayden Christensen didn't play him. If Anakin was much better overall character in the original trilogy there will probably be less complaints (though not fully gone).

And as hated as the prequel trilogy is, it's still continuity, unfortunately for some, but I don't really care one way or another about it being continuity and seeing Hayden Christensen doesn't ruin the scene.

[CelticPredator]

With Star Wars, people who whine about wanting the original unaltered versions annoy me most. I understand wanting it, but I can't see anything Star Wars related without someone commenting about that, and I hate that they act like Star Wars is the worst thing ever. If you want to be mad at someone, take it out on George Lucas, but don't take it out on Star Wars.

Also, I really hate that every single change pisses them off. Really? Those guys are going to complain about Sebastian Shaw, a guy who's been in the series for 10 seconds was replaced by Hayden Christensen, a guy who spent 2 whole movies as Anakin. I prefer Christiansen in the end scene of ROTJ (despite his acting) because it makes more sense within the continuity George Lucas creates, but people use as unjustified fuel for stupidity.

Also, he did release the DVDs of the original trilogy unaltered, and people still complain because it isn't remastered. Well, you can't have it both ways. There is a remastered trilogy, but with George Lucas' vision to it. Yes, some are stupid (including the music part of ROTJ and a certain guy not shooting first), but none of the changes ruin the trilogy like crazed fans like people to believe.

You are so wrong. So very, very, very, very wrong. And that's a fact. Not an opinion. :o

Did I mention how wrong you were?

[CelticPredator]

Wow... SW complaints are the definition of deja vu.

We've heard them all before. About 20 trillion times. They're not going to change for you. No matter how much you whine about it. Stick to the ones that you love and pretend the things that you hate don't exist. Stop whining about it because it's not going to do anything. Other than increasing your hate which will get you nowhere.

The ironic thing is, there has been absolutely no progress in dealing with these changes among SW fans when they want progress for these films themselves.

People have the right to choose what they like, love and hate about these films. It's as simple as that. I respect Lucas and his vision and his changes completely. You know, his films. Because SW fans think they know better than the man who created them in the first place. But hey, if you think you know better and think he's insane, you can go on for the rest of your life thinking so. Because he made the changes he wanted to make so deal with it. Or just ignore it. It's pretty easy to do.

You should at least have some respect for him. Because none of this, great or bad wouldn't be possible without him. He at least deserves that.

George Lucas didnt do ****, other then hate his fans, and treat them like ****.

And no, it's NOT ****ing easy to "ignore" it...because I cant see anything BUT it. Show me where I can find some decent looking copies of the original trilogy that I grew up with? Show me.

That's not how you treat fans. I dont give a flying **** if it's your movie, or my movie....you dont tell everyone to **** off, and ruin it.

That's why Spielberg is a genius, and Lucas is a ****.

:awesome:

[Parker Wayne]

It was just wholly unnecessary. It was also crapping on Sebastian Shaw's participation in the original film. If some people like the prequels, then okay they can have them and I'll ignore them. What I, and most people, hate is when that lame prequel mythology and continuity is shoehorned into the original holy trilogy. At least leave us that safe haven.


Safe haven? It's only a scene of him standing around. It's not like he's doing anything acting. Anyway, my above post explains my opinion on this


Please inform my video store. Wasn't it released unmastered and for an extremely limited amount of time? I looked for it once and couldn't find it, only the special edition.


It's right here. Unremastered but you get the DVD version. They're too busy spending they're time remastering the other version.
(http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Episode-IV-Widescreen/dp/B000FQJAIW/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1305769340&sr=8-2-fkmr0)



Really? I see most ire directed squarely at Lucas. People love Star Wars (the first 3 movies anyway) and are sad at what's been done with the franchise since.

I've seen opposite but I guess that's why our opinion are different.

[Parker Wayne]

You are so wrong. So very, very, very, very wrong. And that's a fact. Not an opinion. :o

Did I mention how wrong you were?

Oh, s**t, I've infuriated CP.

*starts running*

[CelticPredator]

Hahaha....not as much as Lucas. :awesome:

I hope when he dies, someone who has a clue can fix this franchise. Come on Jett Lucas...your idiot adopted sisters already proved useless! BE A MAN AND FIX THE SAGA!

[Parker Wayne]

But, basically, i agree that the Sw talk should probably not be taking place in here, as it does go on a bit inevitably, but in the official Sw thread, which nowadays is basically taken up with folk talking about models, toys and imagining SW movies and shows they would like to see(when there are no CW eps to discuss), so it is not that interesting a thread at the moment tbh, this type of discussion should be taking place in there. If these types of discussions annoy you, just ignore them and talk around them.

Yeah, I think this Star Wars talk should go into the Star Wars thread.

Just so you guys know, I wouldn't call George Lucas the a competent guy either....

He did ruin Indiana Jones too.

[CelticPredator]

I dont care who's series it is...people love these movies, to some, it was very special, so why deprive them of what they love? Because YOU want to force people into watching what you want? The hell kind of attitude is that? Hell, release them seprate. Get a **** ton of money....it's a good from a business standpoint.

[gwynplaine]

So this is the Star Wars thread now:woot:
David Prowse is Darth Vader and was in A Clockwork Orange:awesome:
Alec Guiness is the man. So is Peter Cushing.
Peter Mayhew is SW unsung hero (along with David Prowse and Frank Oz.)
The prequels don't really count.
That's all I got right now:cwink:

[bullets]

My unpopular film opinion is 'Cable Guy' is my favorite Jim Carrey movie, even though most critics hated it and said it was "too dark" (because at the time they were only used to him talking out of his butt).


It was ahead of it's time . I thought he was great in that but brilliant as Andy Kaufman


...
Adding Hayden Christensen over Sebastian Shaw is also insulting to Shaw.

Not a prequel hater but removing Shaw like that was complete unnecessary b.s.

[JAK®]

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was not a bad film, and I'm inclined to believe that anyone who thinks it is is a whiny crybaby.

[The Morningstar]

Yea I watched that again the other day. It was better than I remembered. Some parts still dragged for me though. And the CGI was atrocious for the most part.

But eh, it was a pretty enjoyable 2 hours. Hurt and Winstone were awesome.

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was not a bad film, and I'm inclined to believe that anyone who thinks it is is a whiny crybaby.

It was a bad film. It's not my fault you have appalling taste in movies. From now on everything you express dislike for, I'll just label you a whiny crybaby.

[Figs]

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was not a bad film, and I'm inclined to believe that anyone who thinks it is is a whiny crybaby.

:up:

Weakest of the series, but I still enjoyed it. The majority of the hate is all about the fact that there was aliens in the movie. Most of the hate was all because of people's preference on what the treasure/find would be rather than other issues. Most people apparently thought Aliens didn't fit in IJ's world. :whatever:

[The Morningstar]

Well technically, they weren't aliens. They were interdimensional beings :D

[JAK®]

It was a bad film. It's not my fault you have appalling taste in movies. From now on everything you express dislike for, I'll just label you a whiny crybaby.
Well, at least now I know you'll call me that because you don't like me rather than it being an accurate analysis of my personality.

Please, by all means, prove my point by whining and crying about what I just said.

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Well, at least now I know you'll call me that because you don't like me rather than it being an accurate analysis of my personality.

Please, by all means, prove my point by whining and crying about what I just said.

The only one whining and crying here is you towards anyone who has a different opinion.

Here's what I remember from Crystal Fail.... CGI gophers trying to be cute, geriatric Indiana hobbling along for two hours and making me feel sad for him, geriatric Indiana being nuked in a fridge, Shia LaBeouf as a greaser and pretending to be "Tarzan" during that terrible CGI romp through the jungle and ... aliens.

Yeah, it was a crap movie. If you're in denial about its crappiness, fair enough. But don't take out your passive-aggressive fanboy frustration on those of us who thought it was ****e.

[JAK®]

No, I'm pretty confident in my assessment, in fact, now I'm even more confident.

[JJJ's Ulcer]

No, I'm pretty confident in my assessment, in fact, now I'm even more confident.

http://eatsomeeggs.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/this-is-a-lie.jpg

[Xtroid]

The thing is, I don't think people would be complaining about that if Anakin was written better in the original trilogy/Hayden Christensen didn't play him. If Anakin was much better overall character in the original trilogy there will probably be less complaints (though not fully gone).

No.

Wait, Anakin in the original trilogy? You mean the prequel trilogy...

and seeing Hayden Christensen doesn't ruin the scene.

But it does. What originally was a heart warming scene is now ruined by the fact that a creppy looking Hayden Christensen is there.

[misjuevos]

i've still not been able to sit through bladerunner without falling asleep. something about it just bores me.

[JJJ's Ulcer]

i've still not been able to sit through bladerunner without falling asleep. something about it just bores me.

I really want to like that film, but I'm the same way. Maybe it's just been aped so much the past three decades, its themes don't really seem that fresh and new anymore.

[gwynplaine]

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was not a bad film, and I'm inclined to believe that anyone who thinks it is is a whiny crybaby.
You can love KOTCS all you want (and this is the right thread to express this kind of opinion), but I don't think you should insult people who don't.
I personally think it's not a very good movie (I liked some scenes though), but I have no problem with other people loving it. To each their own.
(And the aliens were the least of that film's problems imo.)

[Bunker]

i've still not been able to sit through bladerunner without falling asleep. something about it just bores me.

I'm not a huge fan either, but I bought it on Blu-Ray just to look at all the gorgeous eye candy. You can fault the story and dialogue all you want, but it's pretty much the most beautifully shot movie of all-time.

[Drizzle]

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was not a bad film, and I'm inclined to believe that anyone who thinks it is is a whiny crybaby.
I wouldn't say it's a bad film, it was definitely disappointing.

[JAK®]

You can love KOTCK all you want (and this is the right thread to express this kind of opinion), but I don't think you should insult people who don't.
I personally think it's not a very good movie (I liked some scenes though), but I have no problem with other people loving it. To each their own.
(And the aliens were the least of that film's problems imo.)
Well I have yet to hear a convincing argument for why it is as awful as these people claim. Every single one of their arguments can apply to Temple Of Doom which is usually their favourite. Except for complaining about the use of CGI which is silly in it's own way.

I would be more tolerant if people just said it was disappointing or gave an actual criticism that wasn't just "it was different from the original three" but they simply aren't doing that. They're calling for Lucas' blood and forcing stupid memes like "Nuked The Fridge" (which I am thrilled didn't catch on)

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Every single one of their arguments can apply to Temple Of Doom which is usually their favourite.

Indiana Jones was 65 in Temple of Doom? There were aliens?

[JAK®]

Indiana Jones was 65 in Temple of Doom? There were aliens?
You're right, those complaints don't apply to Temple of Doom. They're just stupid on their own.

[JJJ's Ulcer]

You're right, those complaints don't apply to Temple of Doom. They're just stupid on their own.

They're "stupid" because you disagree with them. They're actual valid complaints. Looks like there's lots of "cry-babies" in this thread who agree with me too. But keep heaping on the smarmy condescension and passive-aggressive taunts. :whatever:

[JAK®]

They're "stupid" because you disagree with them. They're actual valid complaints. Looks like there's lots of "cry-babies" in this thread who agree with me too. But keep heaping on the smarmy condescension and passive-aggressive taunts. :whatever:
Are you invoking Argumentum Ad Populum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum)... in the unpopular opinion thread?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum)