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Rock Sexton
05-10-2011, 04:11 PM
I know it's kind of a funny question, considering it's a comic book film .... but I think this is the first time I actually connected emotionally with this genre.

The scene with Thor trying to lift the hammer, Loki confronting Odin, Loki visiting Thor, and Loki/Thor's battle .... all were amazing, also helped quite a bit by the amazing score.

Ponyboy
05-10-2011, 04:15 PM
I connected "emotionally" with a few scenes... specifically when Loki was ranting at Odin (and Odin sat down on the steps)... and then the scene between Thor and Odin at the end. I'm a softie for father/son moments.

Vartha
05-10-2011, 04:21 PM
The scene that got me the most was When Mjolnir returned to Thor's hand.

ladyloki
05-10-2011, 04:37 PM
omg I just posted a similar thread ...lol great minds think alike

the whole concept of the one son being more in the spotlight and praised than the other got to me .. because sadly it does happen in society , in this case it really was the classic jock vs the scientest/artiest. The whole root of the story is what can happen when one feels alone and neglected , in today's society people turn to drugs and do other things . Very sad

In loki's case know matter what he did , he could never measure up to thor . Alot of it I think was as I said before odin loved loki true .. but deep down he couldn't get pass the fact that he is not his , because he is so different from thor maybe if they were more alike prehaps it would have been different . Like loki says I cant remember the line but its someting like you would never allow a frost giant to sit on the throne ..very sad indeed !!


So I like the fact that is an epic superhero movie but a story that is relatable and has a real truth to it .

kedrell
05-10-2011, 04:43 PM
Ultimately...yes..er well, kinda. And hey at least that's something. I think I could have connected more but at least a connection is there.

Tony Stark
05-10-2011, 04:43 PM
Very much so. This was the most emotionally driven superhero movie to date. Especially the story with Loki. Finding out he's adopted, being jealous of Thor, wanting to fit in, and killing his biological father in order to connect to his adopted father and look like a hero.

I darn near cried at the end where Thor tells Odin, "there will never be a wiser King than you, nor a better father."

Raiden
05-10-2011, 04:52 PM
I found all the emotional scenes to be rather well-done, such as the heated argument between Odin & Thor before Odin banished Thor to Earth, the confrontation between Loki and Odin, and Loki's visit to Thor in the SHIELD tent. The climax also worked very well indeed, and credits should go to Branagh for putting alot of efforts to make sure the performances are top-notch to make the scenes not just an afterthought in this summer blockbuster movie.

herolee10
05-10-2011, 06:58 PM
Parts in the film that I found myself emotionally invested in:

1. Loki and Odin's conversation in his vault; revealing Loki's true heritage

2. Thor's failing to lift up his own hammer and falling in defeat. The music playing along with the expression and emotion that Thor was emitting really helped me feel on how devastated Thor must have been to have come to the realization that not only was he stranded on Earth forever, but that he was no longer the worthy hero that he had thought himself to be at the start of the film.

3. Granted the romance may not have been seen as the best for some, but I thought the scene where Jane was looking up at the sky to see the clouds returning back to normal, and her realization that Thor may never be able to come back spoke more volumes to me than the scene with Betty Ross looking over at Bruce's picture on her camera at the end of TIH.

4. Thor's scene with Loki in the interrogation room. You really see on how much Thor regrets his recent actions. And for the second real time in the film, you really see Thor in his most vulnerable moment. He's not the mighty prince in this scene but a son wanting to return back to his home and loved ones, and yet he's told that no one wants him back up there and that his actions caused the death of his father.

5. Loki telling Odin that he did it all for him at the climax of Thor's fight with him. Like many have said, even though we didn't want Loki to win, you could really understand why Loki did what he did and really feel sorry for him.

misjuevos
05-10-2011, 07:10 PM
i still love the scene where thor tries to lift mjolnir and then yells to the heavens. then sinks to the ground and just looks completely crushed. then when he ask loki is he can come home.

Rock Sexton
05-10-2011, 07:14 PM
i still love the scene where thor tries to lift mjolnir and then yells to the heavens. then sinks to the ground and just looks completely crushed. then when he ask loki is he can come home.

That scene was truly epic. No.1 his appearance as he looked up into the rain soaked sky. I swear to God that WAS Thor ..... reminded me of some of the illustrations I have seen. His angry face was so much grittier than he normally looked throughout the movie.

Such a sad scene though. His yelling really gave you a sense of the torture and disappointment of having the hammer there, yet not being able to lift it. It was like the straw that broke the camel's back. He really thought he was abandoned at that moment in time.

The Morningstar
05-10-2011, 07:21 PM
The thing about that yelling at the sky scene... it was different than the cliched howling at the heavens in anger seen in so many other movies, one of the worst being in Wolverine Origins, because Thor was actually screaming at his Father there.

Anyway yes, I did connect to this movie emotionally. And i'd say i'm usually a cynical bastard. It's hard for me to connect to fiction on an emotional level. Think the only other time i can remember is the Green Mile.

For me, the scene where Loki confronts Odin was just... heartbreaking. When he screams "TELL ME!!!!!!" it gave me goosebumps and my heart just sank.

Also when Loki visits Thor and Thor is like "Can i come home?".

Just amazing performances from the two leads. Brilliant.

Rock Sexton
05-10-2011, 07:24 PM
The thing about that yelling at the sky scene... it was different than the cliched howling at the heavens in anger seen in so many other movies, one of the worst being in Wolverine Origins, because Thor was actually screaming at his Father there.

Anyway yes, I did connect to this movie emotionally. And i'd say i'm usually a cynical bastard. It's hard for me to connect to fiction on an emotional level. Think the only other time i can remember is the Green Mile.

For me, the scene where Loki confronts Odin was just... heartbreaking. When he screams "TELL ME!!!!!!" it gave me goosebumps and my heart just sank.

Also when Loki visits Thor and Thor is like "Can i come home?".

Just amazing performances from the two leads. Brilliant.

I had the same experience watching that scene as well.

Flemm
05-10-2011, 07:52 PM
The first time I saw it, not too much. The second time, yes, definitely. This was probably due to a number of factors, but anway, it is the second time I saw it that the movie really clicked with me.

ciscostudent561
05-15-2011, 12:00 PM
Loki was a character I connected with the most.

El Payaso
05-15-2011, 12:03 PM
Loki was a character I connected with the most.

Yeah, same here.

Weadazoid
05-15-2011, 12:17 PM
Well I am a father for a 2nd time and my second is a boy....so when Odin took Loki....yeah it was a connection...



also at the end..... when Thor was still all about his girl

kedrell
05-15-2011, 12:25 PM
I connect very much to a lust-filled Natalie Portman.:fhm::hrt:

I only wish she was looking at me that way.:awesome::cwink:

Anti-Venom
05-16-2011, 09:33 AM
Surprisingly, yes. During the first half at least. They set up Thor and Loki so well. I was really moved when Loki told Thor his father was dead, and Thor accepted his banishment. And I felt Thor's humiliation and frustration when he couldn't lift the hammer.

The first half feels really sincere. But the second half feels forced. Thor and Jane are so underdeveloped, but the movie asks us to really feel something for them at the end. I just couldn't do it.

CaptainStacy
05-16-2011, 09:49 AM
Absolutely! Just seeing these characters whom i've been a fan of for four decades, up on the big screen in a live action format is an emotional expierience in itself...

AVEITWITHJAMON
05-16-2011, 12:19 PM
In short, yes, I totally connected with the characters on an emotional level, pretty much all of them in fact, but especially Thor and Loki, I just thought their relationship was superbly done, with some great acting thrown in for good measure.

I lost count of the amount of times the hairs on the back of my neck stood up in this movie, if anything shows you i was invested, THAT does.

Raiden
05-16-2011, 12:58 PM
In short, yes, I totally connected with the characters on an emotional level, pretty much all of them in fact, but especially Thor and Loki, I just thought their relationship was superbly done, with some great acting thrown in for good measure.

I lost count of the amount of times the hairs on the back of my neck stood up in this movie, if anything shows you i was invested, THAT does.

I think this is one of the things that Thor as a movie did really well, and kudos must be given to Branagh for putting alot of efforts to make the scenes between Thor & Loki, as well as other characters, great and not just phoned-in (which unfortunately IM2 was guilty of). I think this is why Thor has great leg even in its second weekend.

RachelDawes
05-16-2011, 01:19 PM
The scene I most connected with emotionally was the one where Thor gets Mjolnir back. I also felt moved at the end when Thor was talking with Odin and mourning his inability to return to Jane. Other than those I can't say I felt much in regard to Thor.

AVEITWITHJAMON
05-16-2011, 05:52 PM
I think this is one of the things that Thor as a movie did really well, and kudos must be given to Branagh for putting alot of efforts to make the scenes between Thor & Loki, as well as other characters, great and not just phoned-in (which unfortunately IM2 was guilty of). I think this is why Thor has great leg even in its second weekend.

That it did, and considering I dont know much about the characters, that is some feat in my eyes.

3atman
05-18-2011, 04:40 PM
Not really. Portman was godawful. Like, they need to Katie Holmes her before another film is made bad. The love story was forced and high school. "O hi Thor, you're hot, I'm attracted to you" "O hi human lady, you like stars and stuff and even though you have a shapeless body, your face is cute, I like you too" that's basically the depth of it. Had they written out the "love" story and focused more on the amazing Loki story, it would have been awesome.

I DID connect emotionally with everything they did with Ki and Thor. I felt bad for LoKi. The love story severely dragged the movie down though. The scene when Thor gets the hammer back was pretty cliche and borderline goofy. Pretty much Beauty and the Beast.

More Loki/Thor and I'd love this movie, instead it's just "good".

DieSmiling
05-18-2011, 04:46 PM
On a relative scale? Sort of. It's stronger for the genre than is typical.

But I can't honestly say I've ever been emotionally moved by a superhero film.

3atman
05-18-2011, 04:55 PM
I don't think it's stronger for the genre than typical. Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk, pretty much every Batman movie were all better. Now if by genre you mean the next tier down of known superheros (which would inclue Dare Devil, Fantastic Four, etc) then yea. However, Thor isn't more emotional than most good superhero movies. Maybe the more popcorn explosion and laughs recent marvel stuff that they do so well like Iron Man, but it's really not that emotional at all.

Hopkins is such a strong actor that he brings everyone up in the father/sons story and that's awesome. The love story flat out sucks and Thor getting the hammer back is pretty cliche. I know it's part of his story, but that doesn't mean it's not cliche. Spoiled brat gets something taken away, learns his lesson, gets it back. The scene where he gets Mjilnor back seriously reminded me of Beauty and the Beast. He dies, she (very badly) cries and is sad over him, he gets his power and life back, whirlwind of magical sparkly stuff, he gets his old look back, she is more "in love" with him than ever. What a crock of S*** I can't describe how much I hated the love stuff. It reminded me of how my junior high cousins see life. She was physically attracted to him and she was the only moderately attractive human he saw. Such a superficial relationship that I didn't buy any of the stuff at the end about Thor missing her. Really REALLY brought the movie down and was a waste of time.

Rock Sexton
05-18-2011, 07:53 PM
I don't think it's stronger for the genre than typical. Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk, pretty much every Batman movie were all better. Now if by genre you mean the next tier down of known superheros (which would inclue Dare Devil, Fantastic Four, etc) then yea. However, Thor isn't more emotional than most good superhero movies. Maybe the more popcorn explosion and laughs recent marvel stuff that they do so well like Iron Man, but it's really not that emotional at all.

There are far more emotional tones/undertones than any of those movies you listed. It's not even close .... and to put it in the tier of Dare Devil and FF4 is bloody absurd.

Hopkins is such a strong actor that he brings everyone up in the father/sons story and that's awesome. The love story flat out sucks and Thor getting the hammer back is pretty cliche. I know it's part of his story, but that doesn't mean it's not cliche. Spoiled brat gets something taken away, learns his lesson, gets it back.

How else do you attempt to get the audience to relate to the character other than to strip him of what makes him different. :doh:

The scene where he gets Mjilnor back seriously reminded me of Beauty and the Beast. He dies, she (very badly) cries and is sad over him, he gets his power and life back, whirlwind of magical sparkly stuff, he gets his old look back, she is more "in love" with him than ever. What a crock of S*** I can't describe how much I hated the love stuff. It reminded me of how my junior high cousins see life. She was physically attracted to him and she was the only moderately attractive human he saw. Such a superficial relationship that I didn't buy any of the stuff at the end about Thor missing her. Really REALLY brought the movie down and was a waste of time.

Anyone who mentions the word "love" in relation to what transpired between Jane and Thor clearly is imposing a non-existent theme. Were they enchanted with each other? Yes.

On the contrary that scene with Heimdall looking out and telling Thor "she searches" for you is a very heart warming scene. Except when you base your theater experience on junior high school girls. :cwink:

JB-the-Hunter
05-18-2011, 07:57 PM
Not really. Portman was godawful. Like, they need to Katie Holmes her before another film is made bad. The love story was forced and high school. "O hi Thor, you're hot, I'm attracted to you" "O hi human lady, you like stars and stuff and even though you have a shapeless body, your face is cute, I like you too" that's basically the depth of it. Had they written out the "love" story and focused more on the amazing Loki story, it would have been awesome.

I DID connect emotionally with everything they did with Ki and Thor. I felt bad for LoKi. The love story severely dragged the movie down though. The scene when Thor gets the hammer back was pretty cliche and borderline goofy. Pretty much Beauty and the Beast.

More Loki/Thor and I'd love this movie, instead it's just "good".

The "love" story was NOT FORCED!!! I can't believe how many people are saying this! Go on Chris Hemsworth's IMDb page and look at the posts... They're all about how hot he is. And a nerd who lives with her two friends in a trailer like Jane Foster would probably find him more attractive than those girls. It was only at the end, when she found out he was who he said he was (A freaking GOD), that pushed her over the edge. Not unrealistic at all, and NOT forced. Thor obviously didn't show as much attraction as Jane did, but he was still interested in her. Which also makes sense. He was sent to earth to learn humanity, Jane taught it to him, he was grateful, and she was pretty.

Please explain to me how it was forced? Maybe it happened in too short a time period, but that doesn't make it forced, it makes it a little less realistic, but not forced.

tek
05-18-2011, 08:39 PM
Some people won't emotionally connect to the film because they are not capable of connecting. Emotional maturity is not something u just click on

S.A.A.D.
05-19-2011, 12:00 AM
A little bit.

kedrell
05-19-2011, 12:51 AM
The romance angle was essentially a flipping of the usual transformers-like model(dorky/nerdy guy falls for a really hot girl). It was nice to see hollywood switch gears for a change because we've seen waaaaay to much of the usual TF-like model. Unless you're watching My Big Fat Greek Wedding, you never get to see the opposite.

Bubonic
05-19-2011, 01:15 AM
I did a bit because of the relationship I have with my dad, heck when Thor said you're an old man and a fool my dad shot me a look as a joke, but he felt that scene, he actually was moved by a lot of it... Then again he's on full of pills since he's over 65.

Doc Samson
05-19-2011, 04:28 PM
Surprisingly, yes. During the first half at least. They set up Thor and Loki so well. I was really moved when Loki told Thor his father was dead, and Thor accepted his banishment. And I felt Thor's humiliation and frustration when he couldn't lift the hammer.

The first half feels really sincere. But the second half feels forced. Thor and Jane are so underdeveloped, but the movie asks us to really feel something for them at the end. I just couldn't do it.

My thoughts exactly!

Canis Sapiens
05-20-2011, 05:47 PM
I connected. A lot.

Loki shouting "TELL ME!" to Odin. You feel for the guy. And you feel for Odin as well.

Thor asking "Can I go home?" to Loki.

And that entire wonderful sequence that starts with Thor facing the Destroyer without his powers and ends with him defeating the metal monster. Just remembering that sequence is enough to bring tears to my eyes.

Loki telling "I could have done it, father!" was heartbreaking. He sounds like a little boy in that scene.

Even the Foo Fighters song, I thought its lyrics were so powerful and true to the essence of what happened on the screen.

So yeah, um, I think Thor really moved me. :oldrazz:

Spider-ManHero12
05-20-2011, 06:18 PM
Definitely!

Spider-Fan
05-20-2011, 10:37 PM
Many scenes I emotionally connected to, even in the 2nd viewing. When Thor asks "Can I come up?" was one. Another big one for me was when Loki kept repeating "Is it!" when Thor confronts him just before that fight. That scene between Loki and Thor is just so AWESOME and layered. Very solidly done :up:

Vartha
05-20-2011, 10:52 PM
I REALLY can't wait to see what happens in First Avenger and Avengers.
....more thor more thor more thor...look into my avatar...you want to see more thor.....



:D

Spider-Fan
05-20-2011, 10:54 PM
I REALLY can't wait to see what happens in First Avenger and Avengers.
....more thor more thor more thor...look into my avatar...you want to see more thor.....



:D

Me too, but my avatar is a bit more...sinister :cwink:

I think Thor will be a tough show for Cap to top. I would be happy if Cap turns out just as good as Thor :up:

Vartha
05-20-2011, 11:05 PM
I LOVE what I've seen of Cap as much as Thor! I have no idea what these "people" are having problems with over there SF. lol
BE FREAKING HAPPY CAP'S BEING MADE!!!!! I mean to be as picky as a few of them are is nuts.

Spider-Fan
05-20-2011, 11:13 PM
I LOVE what I've seen of Cap as much as Thor! I have no idea what these "people" are having problems with over there SF. lol
BE FREAKING HAPPY CAP'S BEING MADE!!!!! I mean to be as picky as a few of them are is nuts.

TOTALLY agreed!!! Cap's been my #1 movie this year since it was first announced, LOL! I really think Evans is going to shock people as Cap. So many seem to doubt he can be as good as Hemms or RDJ, but I think he's going to deliver :cap:

So many things about the movie have me excited, LOL!

Vartha
05-20-2011, 11:16 PM
INDEED, I'm looking foreword to the easter eggs in Cap. I can't wait to see what they do other than that cigar shop in the past. lol

hatebox
05-21-2011, 04:03 AM
I felt little emotional connection, it was too brisk and signposted, but I did chuckle quite a few times... which is enough.

Spider-Fan
05-21-2011, 06:53 AM
INDEED, I'm looking foreword to the easter eggs in Cap. I can't wait to see what they do other than that cigar shop in the past. lol

That is a big part of the fun of these films. All the little nods that only we fellow geeks catch :cwink:

Vartha
05-21-2011, 07:12 AM
Still wish Mr Kirby were alive today to see these characters on the silver screen, He'd be proud. :D

First Avenger
05-21-2011, 07:24 AM
Still wish Mr Kirby were alive today to see these characters on the silver screen, He'd be proud. :D



Especially with Thor I think.:yay: I mean,imagine him seeing the F4 movies...he would have been like:doh:

Vartha
05-21-2011, 07:33 AM
hahaha Yeah yeah, tho I think if Doom were better he wouldn't have minded so much

First Avenger
05-21-2011, 07:37 AM
Agreed,Doom's character is what ultimately ruins those movies,if only the film-makers treated him as MS treated Loki...I want a F4 movie with Dr Doom made by Marvel Studios.:csad:

Vartha
05-21-2011, 08:02 AM
Yeah I understand what Fox was TRYING to do with Doom, but that's just not Von Doom.
I mean the character influenced the creation of Darth Vader. sheesh.

BigThor
05-23-2011, 05:46 AM
I don't think Doom was that bad, but he was certainly toned down quite a bit.