"Only have one more new character" in sequel says Vaughn

[Electrix]

Here is what Matthew Vaughn had to say about the addition of only one major new character in the proposed Untitled X-Men: First Class Sequel.

"We will only have one more new character. I won't say who he...I won't say who he or she is! But we will only be bringing one more new character in. Because, I think, as Professor X is in a wheelchair, Magneto needs to have a nemesis he can fight with. Someone that will be his equal. I know who it is. It would be nice if I could say something, but I can't, mate!"

Matthew Vaughn also doesn't rule out the possibility of Sir Ian McKellen and Sir Patrick Stewart showing up in the sequel via a flash-forward.

"I have worked with Sir Ian McKellen before, and he is a lovely guy. I would love to work with him again. So, never say never!"


http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclusive-x-men-first-class-sequel-to-introduce-just-one-new-character

Wolverine? I hope not, but I can imagine Singer and Vaughn wanting it. I can't really see Wolverine being a 'nemesis' considering Magneto can control every inch of his body.

Hopefully it's someone we haven't seen on-screen before. Only having one new character will at least give them opportunity to develop the characters we already have.

[Wolverine1988]

I guess it depends on what he qualfies as MAJOR, because for all we know he could add several mutants that would be like what Azazel and Riptide are in First Class.

[josh8]

I was really hoping that the X-muties in this movie were just a necessary stepping stone to get to the major players. Make no mistake, XFC looks absolutely amazing, but they need to bring in the heavy hitters in the next movie!!

But if I were to guess... Jean?

[Chewy]

Do we know if Magneto and Professor X are still on the same side at the end of this one?

[SuperT]

I honestly can't see them doing a sequel and not at least having Cykes or Jean in it.

I have a feeling that we probably won't be seeing Storm in a sequel which sucks! :(

[Rac]

I think he means like a new new character to the movieverse. Not someone new to the First Class movies.

or not

[Secret_Riddle]

Do we know if Magneto and Professor X are still on the same side at the end of this one?

I believe that they reach the status quo of the original trilogy, more or less. So no, I don't think they're on the same side.

Maybe someone else knows more?

[BoredGuy]

how is Xavier not a match for Magneto just because he's in a wheelchair?
I'm tired of Vaughn's interviews, all his opinions come off as douche-y

[SuperT]

Well, I mean it's true. Xavier isn't a physical match for Magneto unless they get Mag's helmet off.

[Chewy]

how is Xavier not a match for Magneto just because he's in a wheelchair?
I'm tired of Vaughn's interviews, all his opinions come off as douche-y
Well between Magneto's helmet and not being able to walk he kind of isn't a match for Magneto.

[BoredGuy]

Yeah i hate that they did that with the helmet

Xavier should be every bit a match for Mags

[Secret_Riddle]

how is Xavier not a match for Magneto just because he's in a wheelchair?
I'm tired of Vaughn's interviews, all his opinions come off as douche-y

Well, he's obviously no physical threat; and he can't get in Erik's mind because of that pesky helmet. He could control others and use them to fight Erik, but do you think that's really in his nature? I don't, but maybe others disagree.

I think that in movie terms, it just makes more sense to have another Sebastian Shaw type third-party. The philosophical opposition between Magneto and Xavier will likely still be a centerpiece of the sequel.

The philosophical opposition is more interesting anyway.

[BoredGuy]

but then the other question is, if Mags is bad by the end, do they want a hero to fight him in the sequel, or another villain??

[SuperT]

He probably just means bringing in another villain like the Hellfire Club in this movie.

[BoredGuy]

but then you have a villain fighting a villain...and the x-men being in a weird non-hero limbo again, like in X3

[josh8]

By the way, has anyone taken a deeper look into the way Vaughn and Singer picked the X-Men for this movie? They were actually quite thoughtful and not as random as it seemed.

It looks like they went down the list of early X-Men and went with who they could.

Because of continuity, they couldn't use Cyclops, Jean, Iceman or Angel (Warren), but they could use Beast.

In the comics, the next X-Men were Havok and Polaris. They couldn't use Polaris because her powers are too similar to Magneto's. So they took Havok.

Then they go to the "Deadly Genesis" X-Men and took Darwin. Vulcan being another Summers brother was too complicated. The others were dead and not relevant in the comics anymore.

Next up, the 2nd generation of X-Men. For continuity, they had to eliminate Storm, Wolverine, Colossus and Nightcrawler. They were left with Banshee, Sunfire and Thunderbird. They went with Banshee.

Then they went with Angel Salvatore because she wasn't going to be an X-Man anyways in neither the comics nor the movie. She's obscure so her story can be written any way really. If they had done that with like, Dazzler for example, everyone would be up in arms over how Dazzler was never in the Hellfire Club!!!

So I have faith that they kind of do know what they're doing. :)

[The Demon's Head]

I think he's talking about Cyclops.

[marvelrobbins]

I think the new character would be a rival to Magneto.A villian like Sinter,or Apocalypse or other.

Cyclops,and Jean grey will have to wait till third film.

Vaughn has already said he would like the sequel to open with Kennedy assassination but having Magneto use his power so the magic bullet could do all to Kennedy with Magneto upset because Kennedy took all credit for the Cuban Missile crisis being solved and didn't mention Mutants.

The cast for sequel will mostly be returnees from First Class.If they were to use a flashforward that probally would be the end of the film.They might use that to help
set up X4.

Vaughn might only do one sequel.Of course First Class has to open and make money before we talk more defente about It.But,I don't think we have to worry about there not being a sequel.

[Figs]

I like where Vaughn's head is at. Instead of cramming in more characters just to please the fans, he's going about it in a smarter way.

[Project862006]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/26098/927954-xmen_theend4_super.jpg

[BMM]

By the way, has anyone taken a deeper look into the way Vaughn and Singer picked the X-Men for this movie? They were actually quite thoughtful and not as random as it seemed.

It looks like they went down the list of early X-Men and went with who they could.

Because of continuity, they couldn't use Cyclops, Jean, Iceman or Angel (Warren), but they could use Beast.

In the comics, the next X-Men were Havok and Polaris. They couldn't use Polaris because her powers are too similar to Magneto's. So they took Havok.

Then they go to the "Deadly Genesis" X-Men and took Darwin. Vulcan being another Summers brother was too complicated. The others were dead and not relevant in the comics anymore.

Next up, the 2nd generation of X-Men. For continuity, they had to eliminate Storm, Wolverine, Colossus and Nightcrawler. They were left with Banshee, Sunfire and Thunderbird. They went with Banshee.

Then they went with Angel Salvatore because she wasn't going to be an X-Man anyways in neither the comics nor the movie. She's obscure so her story can be written any way really. If they had done that with like, Dazzler for example, everyone would be up in arms over how Dazzler was never in the Hellfire Club!!!

So I have faith that they kind of do know what they're doing. :)

I've noticed this as well. It's good to see someone explain it, though.

[JP]

It's a villain. So I say Sinister.

[josh8]

I wouldn't mind adding a new villain or keeping Magneto as the main villain. If it's Sinister, then they have to introduce Cyclops and Jean as well.

[Secret_Riddle]

but then you have a villain fighting a villain...and the x-men being in a weird non-hero limbo again, like in X3

Hmm. Unless the new villain poses a threat to both Magneto and the X-Men. The story could explore how both Xavier and Lensherr carry out their opposing philosophies in taking the new threat down. Similar to Stryker in X2?

I'm still not sure we're talking about a full fledged villain though. However, that's probably most likely.

[Loganbabe]

It annoys me a little bit that Vaughn only seems interested to talk about Magneto, and his nemesis and his quests and his causes and his issues.
It's not a Magneto Origins franchise, damn it. :mad:

[JP]

I'm pretty sure if McAvoy was playing Magneto you wouldn't be so anti- Magneto like you've been since this films inception. :/

[josh8]

However, I don't think he's talking about a villain.

[SuperT]

I wouldn't mind adding a new villain or keeping Magneto as the main villain. If it's Sinister, then they have to introduce Cyclops and Jean as well.

Yea, if Sinister ends up being the villain, they can't not have at least Cyclops.

[Project862006]

cyclops cant be in the sequel if it is gonna be the 70's

[Rac]

cyclops cant be in the sequel if it is gonna be the 70's
Only as a baby or a little kid.

[josh8]

cyclops cant be in the sequel if it is gonna be the 70's

I'm all for fudging the timeline of the original movie if it means we get to see those characters. It would mean that the original trilogy is set in the 90s, which I'm ok with.

I'm even fine with them diverting continuity completely after XFC2 if it tells a really good story.

[Chewy]

It could just be someone like Omega Red.

[Supermanreturns]

I'd want Cyclops.

But also a villain. It will be good if it will be Shadow King.

[RaZaTrOn]

Maybe, just maybe it could be Bolivar Trask.

On another note got my tickets for June 1st cannot wait till next week. It's been so long since i've seen a comic book film thats not in the MCU.

[EnDz0n3]

I'm sure these new X-kid recruits are great in this film but I hope we get a new batch by next film. That said I'm fine with Beast, Havok and maybe Banshee staying. Yea I just contradicted myself. :D

[the a1ant]

I hope they all stay...well...let me see the film first :p

[SuperSoldier985]

Spoilers! Vaughn! Dammit....

[Marvel]

Isn't it too early to nitpick a sequel to a film that hasn't even opened yet???

If not...

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/interview-director-matthew-vaughn-on-making-x-men-first-class-feel-fresh (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/interview-director-matthew-vaughn-on-making-x-men-first-class-feel-fresh)

I hope he changes his mind about having Magneto control the bullet that kills Kennedy. That seems WAY too much to me. That makes Erik pure evil and there's no way to be sympathetic with his character after that point. Plus, it may be a good way to churn up controversy but a lot of people would probably be offended by messing that much with history.

[protocida]

Assuming Sebastian Shaw, Emma Frost, Azazel, Riptide and Angel won't return, I'd like to have Professor X, Moira McTaggert, Havok, Beast, Banshee, Darwin, Polaris, Cyclops and Sunfire in the X-Men and Magneto and Mystique in the Brotherhood, with Mr. Sinister as a side-villain setting up the arrival of Apocalypse.

[The Batman]

I'm pretty sure if McAvoy was playing Magneto you wouldn't be so anti- Magneto like you've been since this films inception. :/

its also hella ironic that someone with a username like loganbabe is complaining about a character getting all the focus, lol.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Personally, I think it'll be Cyclops.

[The Batman]

I'd rather the First class 2 focus on a young jean, ororo, scott, etc.

[Cheshire1996]

Nyeh, whoever it is I just hope they choose a good actor, appropriate storyline and the script is good. It doesn't matter how good the comic character is if they have a terrible plot line and script in the film.

In saying that I love the look of First Class and I have utter faith in whatever character choices they make. Is it officially confirmed there's only one new character or is that just an idea? Because if they do bring in only one character it would be interesting to see who they'd pick out of the Scott, Ororo, Jean line up.

[Raiden]

I hope it'll be Scott, and I don't understand why they have to reserve him (and Jean) for part 3. I mean, they already introduce Alex Summers, so it doesn't seemed like they are overly concerned about staying true to the comics origin, and since Mystique is in I don't think they are worry about the Singer's continuity either. They should just have whoever they want and do their own thing.

[Majik1387]

I'm gonna say Scott is the new mutant. They're clearly ignoring Wolverine and possibly X3's existence in the movie-verse.

As for only one new mutant, I'm gonna say he means as a main character; I'm sure he'd add in more characters as antagonists.

[JP]

He specifically mentions someone formidable for Magneto. How would Cyclops be any different than Havok or Beast? If youre adding one NEW character to a film like this, it's almost obviously a villain.

[ken smith]

Cyclops took out Magneto in the first movie.

[By your Command]

The X-Men would be in need of a woman for the sequel (one with a power), the sequel is probably in the 70's, I'm calling it: Dazzler.

[SuperT]

Cyclops took out Magneto in the first movie.

Cyclops was also a grown man and had years of practice with his powers at the time of the first movie.

If Cyclops was introduced, he wouldn't be any older than Havok is in First Class, so there's no way a teenager would be a match for Magneto.

[ken smith]

Am thinking Juggernaut or Sinister.

[marvelrobbins]

Most of the First Class actors are coming back.It depends on who all survives.I would
say any who Is alive at end will be back for the sequel.Which Is why Vaughn only plans
on one major new Character.Magneto could rescue Emma Frost at end of film so she
could be with Him and Mystique In sequel.

The sequel appears like to be planned with a prologue In 1963 and the main events In late 1960's/Early 1970's.Sorry no way for Cyclops to show up.That Is going to have to
wait for third film set In 1980's.Sinster IS more likely as a rival to Magneto.

[SuperSoldier985]

It's time to introduce the Sentinels (proper) or Mr. Sinister.

[By your Command]

Sinster IS more likely as a rival to Magneto.

In that case it would be Nathaniel, cause if Vaughn wasn't too comfortable showing a ponytail, he would be even less comfortable, showing all that craziness that comes with Sinister.

[ken smith]

Even sentinels are not even a match for Magneto

[Majik1387]

It's Polaris! :awesome:

[insane polaris]

She certainly would be a match for him. a perfect match ha.

[Supermanreturns]

It's Polaris! :awesome:
Why not?

I remember Vaughn wanted Stacy X for X3...

This was the concept art for the character (then deleted by Ratner):
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2175/1054/1600/Stacy-X.jpg

[X-Maniac]

I doubt it would be Sinister, as that's too like the FC version of Sebastian Shaw to be honest.

Vaughn means another able-bodied X-Men team member.

I find it hard to believe he won't update the character line-up in other ways apart from just one new character.

[Loganbabe]

I'm pretty sure if McAvoy was playing Magneto you wouldn't be so anti- Magneto like you've been since this films inception. :/
And why should it bother you? :huh: It's my prerogative which characters or actors I like, and I wasn't attacking anyone here for liking one character (or actor) over the other. People have their preferences and I respect that and I'd like mine to be respected too. Plus, Magneto has plenty of admirers, it's not like the opinion of a mere dissident matters anyway. :o

What people say here is one thing, what the director of the film says is another. And what Vaughn said bothered me, because it sounded as if Xavier wouldn't have much of a function to Magneto in the next film since he was paralyzed, as if Xavier's role was to gravitate around Magneto, not mantain the school and train new students. Why only one new character, and not one or two new kids at the school so that Xavier can continue his work? Sounds really weird to me...plus, the school wouldn't have female students, which is even weirder, unless Angel joins.

All in all, I want First Class to be the best and most sucsessful CBM of all time, and it depends a whole lot on all the characters being great, including Magneto. I would be an idiot if I thought otherwise. It's Vaughn who seems to forget it when he only gushes about Magneto in interviews. But I learned that, with Vaughn, you read what he says, it annoys you, but after a while you forget it because you just care about the idea of him coming up with a series of amazing X-movies.

its also hella ironic that someone with a username like loganbabe is complaining about a character getting all the focus, lol.
Wanna know what's even more ironic? That someone called The Batman with a Batman avatar should notice that. :whatever:

[danoyse]

I'm pretty sure if McAvoy was playing Magneto you wouldn't be so anti- Magneto like you've been since this films inception. :/

I've never gotten an anti-Magneto vibe from Loganbabe here before. :huh:

[Majik1387]

She certainly would be a match for him. a perfect match ha.
Exactly. And considering her mental issues, I wouldn't call her a full on good guy either. :cwink:

But seriously, considering Vaughn said "he" first and almost only, I'm expecting this one character to be of the male persuasion.
No Joseph though.:cmad:
Why not?

I remember Vaughn wanted Stacy X for X3...

This was the concept art for the character (then deleted by Ratner):
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2175/1054/1600/Stacy-X.jpg
Yep, I had(have?) that concept art saved somewhere.

[Hogdog]

It has to be Sinister or Amahl Farouk (possessed by the Shadow King) or both. That sets up for a nice 3rd XFC that could bring back Shaw and a plot that could be a set up for an X4 that would start a new trilogy with Apocalypse or Dark Phoenix.

Jon Favreau has stated that on the Avenger side of Marvel moviemaking, the plots have to conform to a larger story arc as far as 10 years down the road. My guess is that they will be or are already doing the same with X-men.

[Majik1387]

Eh, I wouldn't expect anything setting up Apocalypse or Dark Phoenix.

[The Batman]

Wanna know what's even more ironic? That someone called The Batman with a Batman avatar should notice that. :whatever:

The irony of this being that that's not ironic at all. But to each his/her own, LOL.

[Cheshire1996]

So, we have Charles as the good guy, Magneto as the bad guy and then someone else popping up as the downright evil guy XD

Jokes, that's just what it sounds like :woot:

[RachelDawes]

I hope he changes his mind about having Magneto control the bullet that kills Kennedy. That seems WAY too much to me. That makes Erik pure evil and there's no way to be sympathetic with his character after that point. Plus, it may be a good way to churn up controversy but a lot of people would probably be offended by messing that much with history.

I don't remember any controversy when Watchmen did the same thing. I think the idea of Magneto killing Kennedy is kind of neat, actually.

[Wolverine1988]

Apocalypse would be awsome, but i don't see him being included in Singers films.

[danoyse]

I'm pretty sure if McAvoy was playing Magneto you wouldn't be so anti- Magneto like you've been since this films inception. :/

its also hella ironic that someone with a username like loganbabe is complaining about a character getting all the focus, lol.

Both of you need to knock this kind of talk off. Now.

[protocida]

So... Sunspot, maybe?

[Hogdog]

Well whoever it is or whatever the next plot will be, if they expect for these X-men movies to be successful 10, 15, or even 20 years down the road, then at some point they are going to have to bring in the various story arcs that involve aliens coming to earth and also alternate reality story arcs. They can't just keep doing prequels and reboots and expect to keep an audience's interest and you can't just dump that onto an audience in one movie. You have to plant a seed and let it grow in the audience's minds then bring those story arcs in gradually in sequels.

[gkokujin]

- Shadow King

- Sinister

- Juggernaut/Apocalypse

- Polaris


those are the only ones i could rationalize.

[def28]

Sinister

[Project862006]

i really want Sinister played by Jason Isaacs!!!

[chaseter]

Baron von Strucker
Cable
Sinister

are my guesses

[pyromaniac]

I hope he changes his mind about having Magneto control the bullet that kills Kennedy. That seems WAY too much to me. That makes Erik pure evil and there's no way to be sympathetic with his character after that point. Plus, it may be a good way to churn up controversy but a lot of people would probably be offended by messing that much with history.

Have you seen Watchmen? :)

And what do you mean, pure evil? Mags has always been willing to kill or sacrifice innocents for a higher cause. How is that different from JFK?

[pyromaniac]

And why should it bother you? :huh: It's my prerogative which characters or actors I like, and I wasn't attacking anyone here for liking one character (or actor) over the other. People have their preferences and I respect that and I'd like mine to be respected too. Plus, Magneto has plenty of admirers, it's not like the opinion of a mere dissident matters anyway. :o

What people say here is one thing, what the director of the film says is another. And what Vaughn said bothered me, because it sounded as if Xavier wouldn't have much of a function to Magneto in the next film since he was paralyzed, as if Xavier's role was to gravitate around Magneto, not mantain the school and train new students. Why only one new character, and not one or two new kids at the school so that Xavier can continue his work? Sounds really weird to me...plus, the school wouldn't have female students, which is even weirder, unless Angel joins.

All in all, I want First Class to be the best and most sucsessful CBM of all time, and it depends a whole lot on all the characters being great, including Magneto. I would be an idiot if I thought otherwise. It's Vaughn who seems to forget it when he only gushes about Magneto in interviews. But I learned that, with Vaughn, you read what he says, it annoys you, but after a while you forget it because you just care about the idea of him coming up with a series of amazing X-movies.



All the early reviews indicate that Xavier is just as important as Erik - they are the perfect foil for each other. In fact, they go so far to give Xavier some character flaws so he wouldn't be seen as this 'saintly' type that he became. They seemed to have given much consideration to the development of Xavier, as much as Erik. So I can't see your point. If anything, it's certainly no different from Bryan Singer gushing about Wolverine but at the same time directing an ensemble cast quite well and getting two good films out of it.

[Farren]

Please don't let it be Wolverine.

[TheComicbookKid]

Shadow King is the only character I could see working. As a physical threat to Magneto in the real world and fighting Xavier on the Astral Plane simultaneous.


I hope he just means major character. Xavier's team needs another strong female mutant character.

[pyromaniac]

Please don't let it be Wolverine.

I really don't think so. We've seen their relationship play out between Wolverine and Magneto - and the former was never really a match for the Master of Magnetism. And besides, X1 was the first time they'd met. Since the filmmakers indicate that they want to set the sequel in the 70's, it would be really illogical if they did that.

[Loganbabe]

I never said Vaughn wouldn't come up with a great film just because Magneto is his favorite character. I just wanted to see him talking a little bit more about Xavier's and the other characters' motivations as well. All in all it was just a commentary about what he had said, no big deal. But suddenly I'm being accused of hating a character just because I'm more interested in another, which is unfair. Haters are trolls; I don't consider myself one. :o

[RedTornadbro]

how is Xavier not a match for Magneto just because he's in a wheelchair?
I'm tired of Vaughn's interviews, all his opinions come off as douche-y

RIGHT! Xavier is a beast yo!!.. as for the new character in the projected sequel I'm going to have to say the new character is going to be Polaris she's got identical powers to magneto making it "even" plus she fits in with the story the way it looks way tooo well. (ie: dating alex summers & associates with Emma Frost).

[pyromaniac]

I never said Vaughn wouldn't come up with a great film just because Magneto is his favorite character. I just wanted to see him talking a little bit more about Xavier's and the other characters' motivations as well. All in all it was just a commentary about what he had said, no big deal. But suddenly I'm being accused of hating a character just because I'm more interested in another, which is unfair. Haters are trolls; I don't consider myself one. :o

I'm not accusing you of thinking that Vaughn wouldn't knock this one out of the park, I'm just saying that there are other reviews and sources where Vaughn delves into the characterisation of Xavier's - he AND McAvoy initially found him to be a 'boring, sanctimonious character', and so decided to make him more interesting with some flaws. It's okay for Vaughn to establish that he's 'obsessed' with Magneto; he's not denying that, but almost every time Magneto is mentioned, it's usually in the same breath as talking about Xavier's. My point is that I think Vaughn recognises that Xavier and Erik are equally important. Erik's backstory is one of pathos, whereas Xavier learns that his ideology may be his own undoing during the course of the film.

Clearly, their relationship is the core of the film, with Mystique in tow.

[Loganbabe]

It's okay for Vaughn to establish that he's 'obsessed' with Magneto; he's not denying that, but almost every time Magneto is mentioned, it's usually in the same breath as talking about Xavier's.
Hmm, no. He talks about their relationship and how the actors worked so well together, but when he wants to single out a character, it's always Magneto.

Oh well. I'll tell you what: if the Charles/Erik relationship works so well on the screen, it has a hell lot to do with James McAvoy; he's such an empath, as an actor and as a person. It's not a surprise so many of his partners on film are nominated or win awards.
It'll happen again this time, I'm sure. Fassbender will get his awards and McAvoy will get his "Why can't James McAvoy go away?" threads that keep popping up at IMDb and the "meh"s of the CBM fanboys. :(

Eh, I just thought Vaughn could be a bit more graceful towards James and the work he did and not only keep going on and on about his Bond Magneto. Magneto/Fassbender is already a fanboy favorite, why can't he bring up Xavier's importance a bit more?

It's not that McAvoy cares, though. I probably care more than him. It's just that he's a fantastic actor but always so underrated, and Xavier is as fantastic character on his own - he doesn't depend on Erik to be great, which is something Vaughn kind of insinuated.

[JP]

I don't see any of what you're talking about. Ever.


There's a reason McAvoy was the first person cast.

[Loganbabe]

So you haven't been checking Vaughn's interviews. Especially the one posted here, it's a bit shocking how he almost discards Xavier in lieau of some other character for Erik to play with.

Yes, there is a reason James was the first person cast and it would be nice to hear Vaughn talk a little bit more about this.

Anyway, Vaughn isn't exactly diplomatic. I'm glad he makes great films, and I'll skip his interviews from now on.

[JP]

Your argument just makes zero sense to me. You know I'm a huge James fan, like yourself, but you just seem angered by the fact that people prefer Magneto and think Fassbender delivered an outstanding performance.

This isn't kindergarten snack time where each kid has to have the same amount of cookies.

[pyromaniac]

So you haven't been checking Vaughn's interviews. Especially the one posted here, it's a bit shocking how he almost discards Xavier in lieau of some other character for Erik to play with.

Yes, there is a reason James was the first person cast and it would be nice to hear Vaughn talk a little bit more about this.

Anyway, Vaughn isn't exactly diplomatic. I'm glad he makes great films, and I'll skip his interviews from now on.

I have read his interviews. Vaughn has talked enough about how he made McAvoy read with everyone trying out for Magneto, to the point of annoyance.

Perhaps Magneto is only more popular because in comic canon, Xavier has always been something of a character that people have trouble really liking and relating to as a person. Granted, he is the reason X-Men was formed in the first place, if not the impetus for many of the great and endearing characters that have entered the school gates. He also has provided an ideological narrative. But you don't hear about Professor X ranking high in the popularity polls, because he is probably 'what you see is what you get.'

That's my take anyway. However I suspect that after XMFC, people will find Xavier much more appealing, and therefore somebody to relate to. Reviews also say that McAvoy's Xavier was brilliant.

You may be bothered by the fact that simply because Magneto is Vaughn's favourite character, he takes some of the gloss off of Xavier in the film. From what I can tell, that doesn't seem to the case. Xavier and Erik are equally at the forefront.

Up till now, Magneto is just more of a fascinating character and he has the pulse on why so many people like him. There was a reason he was going to have his solo film, plus he has had his own mini series. I'm not sure if Xavier ever had the latter, but it doesn't make him all the less diminished for it in both mediums.

At least Vaughn doesn't claim Wolverine to be his favourite character. Now that would be horrors! :awesome: (Incidentally, he says his favourite is actually Stacy X, but you don't see him putting her in the films just yet)

[pyromaniac]

Hmm, no. He talks about their relationship and how the actors worked so well together, but when he wants to single out a character, it's always Magneto.

Oh well. I'll tell you what: if the Charles/Erik relationship works so well on the screen, it has a hell lot to do with James McAvoy; he's such an empath, as an actor and as a person. It's not a surprise so many of his partners on film are nominated or win awards.
It'll happen again this time, I'm sure. Fassbender will get his awards and McAvoy will get his "Why can't James McAvoy go away?" threads that keep popping up at IMDb and the "meh"s of the CBM fanboys. :(

Eh, I just thought Vaughn could be a bit more graceful towards James and the work he did and not only keep going on and on about his Bond Magneto. Magneto/Fassbender is already a fanboy favorite, why can't he bring up Xavier's importance a bit more?

It's not that McAvoy cares, though. I probably care more than him. It's just that he's a fantastic actor but always so underrated, and Xavier is as fantastic character on his own - he doesn't depend on Erik to be great, which is something Vaughn kind of insinuated.

I can understand your frustrations. But I think it's a matter of interpretation. You could argue that Erik in turn depends on Xavier to make him great, to see that he has the potential goodness in him by which Xavier has been trying to bring out.

The Bond element; well it had to be Magneto, because it's his story about revenge, he employs questionable methods and he has the tag of an anti-hero. He has more of a pathos whereby his suffering as a child feeds into the wider narrative of mutant persecution. Xavier on the other hand almost has it easy, so there probably is less of a reason to talk about him. But the fact he has been written to be a more 'flawed' character speaks volumes about the kind of consideration that Vaughn has given him.

Xavier overall has come from a different trajectory. He isn't revengeful and he is more of a 'surface' character than Erik is. But that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

As for predicting that Fassbender comes out the winner at the expense of McAvoy, all the reviews that delve into their relationship, and into the latter's performance in particular would contradict that. McAvoy sounds to me to be just as memorable as Fassbender's.

To be fair, McAvoy is better known to the public that Fassbender is, and has been in more commercial films. So that balances out, if that helps.

[Mako]

I would love to see Shadow King , Sinister or even Proteus in a future Sequel.

[Electrix]

The X-Men we used were already chosen by Bryan and Fox. In the draft they gave me all of the characters were in there. We cut Sunspot because we didn’t have enough time or money. They couldn’t make him work, he was a pain the ass.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/05/24/matthew-vaughn-on-x-men-first-class-on-the-writing-credits-on-the-bond-influence-on-the-difficult-shoot-and-more/

Sunspot maybe?

[pyromaniac]

Loganbabe, here's a longer version of Vaughn's interview that I think you might like: it either will reinforce your impressions of him or ease some. But it does back up my points that I was trying to make. In fact he even praises McAvoy in that last part.

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Q: You’ve talked about James Bond in reference to how you could see the character of Erik for Michael’s performance. Did you have a similar archetype for McAvoy as Xavier?

MV: Not really, actually.

Q: How did you direct him then? We’re you referential to Patrick Stewart in the other films?

MV: No we weren’t, in fact it was the opposite. I said, ‘don’t worry about Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart, I think they did a great job, but you’ve got to make these characters your own?’ I think, the way I was saying to James was, lets’ make the character more fun, so that you slowly see him becoming the Professor X of – the professor. When we first meet him, he’s not a professor, and we were trying to show that transition. It’s just not as fun. Seeing Magneto growing into a villain is far more interesting than seeing a guy sadly becoming a cripple, and becoming a teacher, ultimately. It’s not quite the arc you want to see as much, but I think James did a fabulous job, because it’s the hardest character to make interesting.

[pyromaniac]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/05/24/matthew-vaughn-on-x-men-first-class-on-the-writing-credits-on-the-bond-influence-on-the-difficult-shoot-and-more/

Sunspot maybe?

He may show up in the sequel, who knows? Interesting choice there.

Even though he was a part of Generation X, personally I would LOVE to see Chamber - he's such an interestingly visual character and he has a great, easy-to-relate-to story, albeit emo, but they could downplay it some, so he has to be there at some point!

[Silvermoth]

My guess is the new character will be the villian. Probably Mr Sinister. If they're talking X-men I want Polaris. She's the only character that means alot by herself as I would rather see Jean, Cyclops etc arrive as a bunch.

[Loganbabe]

Seeing Magneto growing into a villain is far more interesting than seeing a guy sadly becoming a cripple, and becoming a teacher, ultimately.
Wow. :o "Sadly becoming a cripple and a teacher"? He talks as if becoming a teacher is as terrible as being crippled. :dry:

Vaughn seems to forget that not only Xavier is a "cripple" and a "teacher", but the most powerful telephat in the world. And "teaching" means he's responsible for keeping the school and welcoming a lot of troubled young mutants there, helping them to deal with their powers. It's far from sad.

I just hope he'll give Xavier an interesting arc in the next movie, and not just keep him moping around the mansion, depressed for being both a "cripple" and a "teacher". I think it's abundantly clear Vaughn is so much more interested on keeping his focus on Magneto, but it would be such a waste of James' talent.

It’s not quite the arc you want to see as much, but I think James did a fabulous job, because it’s the hardest character to make interesting.
Hmm, I'm quite interested in Xavier's arc, what is he talking about.:huh:

Yeah, the directors reach for James when they need an actor to portray the character who's not flashy, won't get the recognition and the awards, but needs a lot of internal, subtle, fabulous acting. The sad thing is, no matter how hard he works to make a character interesting, the focus will always be the other - the reviewers are having a blast going on and on about how amazing Magneto is, even Vaughn himself. Damn. I've seen this happen before. :csad:

Thanks for posting the interview; it just confirms my belief that I must stay away from whatever Vaughn has to say from now. This will help my full appreciation of the film and the characters for what I see on the screen.

[Spider-Fan83]

I really don't think so. We've seen their relationship play out between Wolverine and Magneto - and the former was never really a match for the Master of Magnetism. And besides, X1 was the first time they'd met. Since the filmmakers indicate that they want to set the sequel in the 70's, it would be really illogical if they did that.
not, that I am routing for him to be in it...
(as I don't think he fits at all, it would break continues,... yada yada yada)

but, technically, even if its set in the 70's, Logan wouldn't have his adamantium skeleton, yet, therefore Magneto's magnetism wouldn't really be as effective against him

just saying

[The Morningstar]

Cable would be interesting. Coming back from the future and encountering his grandpappy.

[psylockolussus]

Mr. Sinister pls!

[pyromaniac]

Wow. :o "Sadly becoming a cripple and a teacher"? He talks as if becoming a teacher is as terrible as being crippled. :dry:

Vaughn seems to forget that not only Xavier is a "cripple" and a "teacher", but the most powerful telephat in the world. And "teaching" means he's responsible for keeping the school and welcoming a lot of troubled young mutants there, helping them to deal with their powers. It's far from sad.


I thought you wouldn't have been reassured, ha ha, but I can give you my interpretation of his statements.

I think sadly is relative to how he became a cripple, not to his teacher status and the most powerful telepath in the world. He doesn't mention that it's sad that he became a teacher nor that he can read minds. You're reaching a bit there, with spurious reasoning.



I just hope he'll give Xavier an interesting arc in the next movie, and not just keep him moping around the mansion, depressed for being both a "cripple" and a "teacher". I think it's abundantly clear Vaughn is so much more interested on keeping his focus on Magneto, but it would be such a waste of James' talent.


Nowhere did Vaughn say he'd mope around being depressed in his mansion in the sequel. NOTHING has been commented on his next arc. You're putting words into his mouth where there aren't any.


Hmm, I'm quite interested in Xavier's arc, what is he talking about.:huh:


He means compared to Magneto's, in the general public's eyes. But as I said, after the film comes out, people will love Xavier as well. Some reviews I've just read say that Xavier is lovable, impish and awkward with corny pickup lines before setting his role as that of a teacher gathering all the mutants. You did see the trailers and spots yes? He has much of a hand in the tutelage of these students, even Erik's.


Yeah, the directors reach for James when they need an actor to portray the character who's not flashy, won't get the recognition and the awards, but needs a lot of internal, subtle, fabulous acting. The sad thing is, no matter how hard he works to make a character interesting, the focus will always be the other - the reviewers are having a blast going on and on about how amazing Magneto is, even Vaughn himself. Damn. I've seen this happen before. :csad:


Um, ok. Did you read all the reviews that said that McAvoy was just as, if not more great as Fassbender's? What reviews have you been reading? It's a fact that his character requires a subtle performance but that doesn't make it any less powerful for it.


Thanks for posting the interview; it just confirms my belief that I must stay away from whatever Vaughn has to say from now. This will help my full appreciation of the film and the characters for what I see on the screen.

No problem. ;)

[Loganbabe]

Your argument just makes zero sense to me. You know I'm a huge James fan, like yourself, but you just seem angered by the fact that people prefer Magneto and think Fassbender delivered an outstanding performance.
My question to you is - why can't I express my personal opinion about it? Yes, I'm angered and frustrated, not because Magneto/Fassbender is getting recognition, but because I'm pretty sure McAvoy did a wonderful job as well, and still he's the one getting the "Why can't McAvoy go away?" threads at IMDb. You're getting it all wrong thinking that I necessarily hate the other character/actor just because there's this actor I love more, which is something I never tried to hide.

I've been following James' career for almost five years now, I know how fantastic he is, but the public's general perception is that the flashier character is alwayst the most interesting character. So it's indeed frustrating, because although James is (perhaps) most known than Fassbender, First Class IS the biggest thing he has ever done, and I'd like to see him receiving a fair amount of accolades as well. And it doesn't help when the director somehow aligns himself with the general public view.

I'm not worried about enjoying the film at all, I already love it so much I feel like exploding for having to wait the dreaded two weeks. I love everything about it so far, so expect nothing but glowing reviews when I finally see it. But I hope you don't mind when I express my personal feelings about this particular issue.

This isn't kindergarten snack time where each kid has to have the same amount of cookies.
A fair amount of the cookies would suit just fine. Not all kiddies are greedy. :o

[X-Maniac]

My question to you is - why can't I express my personal opinion about it? Yes, I'm angered and frustrated, not because Magneto/Fassbender is getting recognition, but because I'm pretty sure McAvoy did a wonderful job as well, and still he's the one getting the "Why can't McAvoy go away?" threads at IMDb. You're getting it all wrong thinking that I necessarily hate the other character/actor just because there's this actor I love more, which is something I never tried to hide.

I've been following James' career for almost five years now, I know how fantastic he is, but the public's general perception is that the flashier character is alwayst the most interesting character. So it's indeed frustrating, because although James is (perhaps) most known than Fassbender, First Class IS the biggest thing he has ever done, and I'd like to see him receiving a fair amount of accolades as well. And it doesn't help when the director somehow aligns himself with the general public view.

I'm not worried about enjoying the film at all, I already love it so much I feel like exploding for having to wait the dreaded two weeks. I love everything about it so far, so expect nothing but glowing reviews when I finally see it. But I hope you don't mind when I express my personal feelings about this particular issue.


A fair amount of the cookies would suit just fine. Not all kiddies are greedy. :o

Xavier and Magneto are very different and Magneto's backstory of pain/anguish/tragedy is perhaps more compelling and makes him more conflicted. Both actors do great but, personally, I liked Fassbender more. He was...magnetic!

[JP]

I think McAvoy is more then getting his share of accolades with this film. And rightfully so. :)

[Loganbabe]

However I suspect that after XMFC, people will find Xavier much more appealing, and therefore somebody to relate to. Reviews also say that McAvoy's Xavier was brilliant.
I have no doubts he's brilliant, but then I'm used to his acting style. James is a powerhouse (and I know because I've met him; he's so incredibly energetic), but he loves playing self-contained characters - I guess he considers it a challenge to make apparently boring and common characters look interesting.
But it's a subtle thing. I get it, you get it, and maybe some critics will get it. Unfortunately my guess is that, the public's perception aligned with Vaughn's own preference will force Xavier more into the background in the next film. This is just how I feel about it.

But I agree that this version of Xavier sounds fascinating; it's amazing how both Vaughn and McAvoy worked on his flaws and doubts, and it'll certainly make Xavier look much more sympathetic and interesting to some fans. I just wish Vaughn would sound as enthusiastic talking about what they achieved as he is when he talks about Magneto. His depressing view of a Xavier post-whatever-happens-to- him-that-will-put-him-in-a-wheelchair isn't exactly helping. :csad:

At least Vaughn doesn't claim Wolverine to be his favourite character. Now that would be horrors! :awesome:
Haha, Wolverine is my favorite character, hence my screen name! :p But I never had any problem with a new series of X-Men movies without him. I just wish he gets a really great solo movie next time.

[pyromaniac]

I see what you mean. But just want to clarify - do you only like Xavier because of McAvoy, or do you like Xavier by his own merits?

[Loganbabe]

No, I like Xavier. I like the X-Men - that idea of the team Xavier built - as a whole. He was never a favorite of mine, though, because...well, I'm generally quite selective about my preferences. Meaning I really like Logan. :woot:
I've talked a few times here about how a character like Magneto isn't attractive to me. I'm Team Xavier all the way - I like people who build, not people who destroy, no matter their particular (or "justified") reasons for doing so. To me, Magneto is a terrorist, and I'm not into terrorists. They start all noble and all and it's okay, until they start killing innocents and betraying their friends for their "cause". Not cool, man. :cwink:

So, I'm not interested in people like The Joker or Magneto or the so-called "villains". They're extremely well-built characters, and fascinating as well, but I know I would always choose the level-headed, pacifist approach. And Xavier represents this so well, even if as a person he's as flawed as the rest of us.

[EnDz0n3]

You just learn not to let what certain directors/actors/people say get to you, as they can be very blunt about it all.
This is where I miss Bryan's interviews more. But Vaughn seems to have moulded a great movie so that's all that matters!

[JNX]

hmmm........I hope it's not Wolverine.

I want to see young Jean and Scott.

[psylockolussus]

I hope its young Storm

Jean and Scott should be in Third Class

[marvelrobbins]

Well according to Spoiler thread
Emma Frost,Azarel,Angel,and Riptide all Join Magneto after defeat
of shaw.So In sequel the brotherhood would be them,and Mystique.Vaughn will probally add an X-Man to work with Havok,Banshee,and Beast.When Xavier uses cerebro for first time both Cyclops and Storm are seen as Children.So unless the sequel jumps to mid to late 1970's It won't be them.
I see 3 possibilties
1:A preadmantaum Wolverine(Possibly to further divorce the films from
Wolverine he wouldn't have bone Claws)
2:Polaris(In late 1960's or early 1970's you could have teenage Polaris and if they want to Include the reconn she's Magneto's daughter she could be result result of brief relationship he had In Late 1940's or early 1950's)
3:The Juggernaut(Kinda crazy thought but they could Include him so he could he done better and they could have his stepbrother relationship with Xavier.Plus there was a time when he was working with the X-Men in comics)

With regards to Wolverine.In comics Xavier has been shown to not ell the truth and keep things from the X-men.In X2 they certainly made a hint both he and Magneto may know more about Wolverine than they let on.

[ken smith]

What about the Synch character that was rumoured to be played Tony Rich. That character might be Synch. But i could be wrong here's the link http://www.**************.com/fansites/scoops/news/?a=22871

[protocida]

I believe Synch has a cameo in the movie.

I'm still going for Sunspot, since he was present in earlier drafts.

[JNX]

I'm fine with Jean and Scott not appearing in this film. Well, I'm not fine. But I've accepted it.

However, if I have to wait till the 3rd film to finally see them, I don't know how I'd feel about it.

I don't think they should wait too long before introducing some of the more "familiar" characters to the team.

[xwolverine2]

i dont see why storm,cyclops, or jean arent present... i mean they were really the first ones...
the mutants he chose for this film in terms of powers are the least visually interesting.
only mutants in the big league like storm or jean could fight magneto, but most likely it'll be a guy.
shame we'll never see storm done right...

[xwolverine2]

I'm fine with Jean and Scott not appearing in this film. Well, I'm not fine. But I've accepted it.

However, if I have to wait till the 3rd film to finally see them, I don't know how I'd feel about it.

I don't think they should wait too long before introducing some of the more "familiar" characters to the team.

i agree you can only distance the films so much for so long without people wanting to finally see the golden x-men team members they grew up loving.

[JP]

Kinda hard for three character who weren't born yet to appear in this film.

[xwolverine2]

Kinda hard for three character who weren't born yet to appear in this film.

i dont think they're really going for continuity with the previous x-films...
seeing as how mystique and beast are already older teens in this. that would make them like 60 yrs old now.
plus jean and cyclops should have been born already and be the same age, they were the first.

i dont care if they are not in this film, i accepted that long ago because i understood why vaughn would distance himself from whats already been done.

[JP]

The reason they're not in this film is because they weren't born yet. Plain and simple.

Beast was obviously older in X3, and Mystique's age was never given.

[Deaths Head II]

I'm fine with Jean and Scott not appearing in this film. Well, I'm not fine. But I've accepted it.

However, if I have to wait till the 3rd film to finally see them, I don't know how I'd feel about it.

I don't think they should wait too long before introducing some of the more "familiar" characters to the team.

I pretty much feel the same way.

[chaseter]

Kinda hard for three character who weren't born yet to appear in this film.

Well they could be little kids at this time and be early teens in the sequel. That would make them late 30s/early 40s in X1 which totally works out. I thought they were mid-late 30s in X1 anyways and if they fudge the numbers a little bit it won't hurt.

[JP]

Don't disagree about that. I'd be a little disappointed if those specufic three aren't in the sequel.

[JNX]

The reason they're not in this film is because they weren't born yet. Plain and simple.

Beast was obviously older in X3, and Mystique's age was never given.

well, according to the spoiler thread:


When Xavier uses Cerebro to search for mutants, you get to see quick glimpses of young Scott and Storm. Apparently, no young Jean, though. :(

[JNX]

also, in X1, when Xavier takes Wolverine on a tour of the school, he refers to Scott, Jean, and Storm as "some of my 1st students."

obviously, First Class is breaking that continuity, since those 3 are NOT in the "first class."

I could see them as the 2nd class, though.

[Majik1387]

Who said that the first class of students ends with one film? :huh:

[Hogdog]

also, in X1, when Xavier takes Wolverine on a tour of the school, he refers to Scott, Jean, and Storm as "some of my 1st students."

obviously, First Class is breaking that continuity, since those 3 are NOT in the "first class."

I could see them as the 2nd class, though.

There's lots of ways they could meld Jean's and Scott's recruitments. They could just reshoot the scenes of Jeans recruitment and Scott's recruitment at the helicopter scene at the end of WO with Xavier in a wheelchair. Or maybe Jean's recruitment was a telepathic vision on the astral plane or something with the help of Cerebro maybe. Scott's recruitment with Xavier stepping off the helicopter in WO could've actually been Mystique posing as Xavier and recruiting for Mag's Brotherhood. Then you'd have a nice story of how Xavier wins him back to his side. I'm sure there is lots of other ways the writing pros could come up with.

[Moofafoo]

This stuff about it not being in continuity and retconning XOW and Last Stand pisses me off. Why is it so odd to think that the events of XOW might not have a bearing on the sequel? Jason Stryker went to the school, his mother killed herself and Stryker blames mutants. Stryker recruits Wolverine and Sabretooth into the governments Mutant Division. We now know the X-men were the first mutant division.


So what if, when Wolverine leaves in Nigeria, the thing with Strykers son happens and he starts rounding up the mutants especially the brotherhood (Mystique rescues her child she has as a result of an experiment involving Azazel???) . It would mean Magneto has to turn to Charles for help. That'd explain how they're together when they recruit Jean in X3. One of the new X-men (Gambit) gets taken in but escapes and goes back to New Orleans? We all know that Wolverine shows up and they head off to the island. So what if Magneto does something to turn Sabretooth into what we see of him in X-1 at the very end?


At the end of the sequel we could end up with Sabretooth, Mystique and Magneto in the Brotherhood? Clearly heavy casualties which explains why Magneto hates Stryker so much in X2?


We end up with Beast, Jean, Cyclops and maybe some of the rescued mutants in the X-men? Maybe Havok is a casualty and Banshee and Moira go to Muir Island?


So for the 3rd movie in the trilogy, that means introducing Toad on the Brotherhood and Storm into the X-men and "outing" the mutants which explains where Beast goes. This sets the opening for X-men 1 where they're talking about mutant registration!

[Majik1387]

All the upcoming movies are ignoring Wolverine, including the sequel.

[S. Grundy]

also, in X1, when Xavier takes Wolverine on a tour of the school, he refers to Scott, Jean, and Storm as "some of my 1st students."

obviously, First Class is breaking that continuity, since those 3 are NOT in the "first class."

I could see them as the 2nd class, though.

Some being the key word, there's wiggle room.

[Moofafoo]

Can you actually link me to someone involved who's actually ever said this EVER?

Ignoring X-Men Origins Wolverine has never been confirmed by anyone involved in the movie

[Hogdog]

This stuff about it not being in continuity and retconning XOW and Last Stand pisses me off. Why is it so odd to think that the events of XOW might not have a bearing on the sequel?............This sets the opening for X-men 1 where they're talking about mutant registration!

I agree. A degree of continuity must be maintained and there is lots of ways to do it and I'm sure the writing pros can handle it.

I think though that they shouldve just had Cable or Bishop go back in time and tell Xavier that suppressing Jean's telepathic power results in their deaths and the end of the world blah blah. Then rewrite the whole thing with Jean becoming the Phoenix unhindered by Xavier.

[Moofafoo]

But I have seen both Donner and Singer say they dont want to introduce space and time travel?

There are still many ways to do it? There's ways to explain everything, to get from the end of XMFC to the start of X1 and taking XOWolverine into account.

Look I know theres lots of X-men comic fans who weren't happy with Last Stand or Wolverine but I know lots more X-men MOVIE fans who enjoyed them. Anyone who really thinks there gonna be just ignored isn't facing reality

[Deaths Head II]

I doubt most people are going to cry about events in Wolverine being ignored. Most people are probably going to forget about it like they forgot all the continuity issues Wolverine itself brought up.

[Nokio]

Shadow King is the only character I could see working. As a physical threat to Magneto in the real world and fighting Xavier on the Astral Plane simultaneous.


I hope he just means major character. Xavier's team needs another strong female mutant character.

You do know the Shadow King has no body and only exist is Astral form and to operate in the physical world he has to posses someone. I don't know what kinda of a threat he is to Magneto with the helmut protecting him. Shadow King has the same powers as Prof X. I guess if he is controlling another mutant then he could be a physical threat to Mags, but i don't see it being him.

The Shadow King should be used because he's the reason Prof X formed the Xmen because he was the 1st bad mutant he encountered but Fox thru that out the window. The Shadow King is a Prof X villian. I've never known him to deal with Magneto. He encountered him when he met Storm as a little girl in Africa.

[Nokio]

How about we give up trying to explain the continuity problem. FOX painted themselves into a corner, so now they have to go this route. The best route to be taken is the FOX TURNS OVER THE RITES BACK TO MARVEL

[Nokio]

Is Fox throwing out that Emma Frost is an Xmen? After this movie if she is back she should be heading over to the Xmen. I've given up hope of mutants actually being in their right time periods or places in the x universe. I'm already pissed that their is an Hellfire club but not all the members present and they aren't battling the correct Xteam.

[psyonic]

Is Fox throwing out that Emma Frost is an Xmen? After this movie if she is back she should be heading over to the Xmen. I've given up hope of mutants actually being in their right time periods or places in the x universe. I'm already pissed that their is an Hellfire club but not all the members present and they aren't battling the correct Xteam.

You must have been pissed since X-Men 1 came out. 11 years of bitterness.

[insane polaris]

Is Fox throwing out that Emma Frost is an Xmen? After this movie if she is back she should be heading over to the Xmen. I've given up hope of mutants actually being in their right time periods or places in the x universe. I'm already pissed that their is an Hellfire club but not all the members present and they aren't battling the correct Xteam.

Emma spent longer being a villian than she has a x-men so thats why shes probs not an x-man in this.

[X-Maniac]

Is Fox throwing out that Emma Frost is an Xmen? After this movie if she is back she should be heading over to the Xmen. I've given up hope of mutants actually being in their right time periods or places in the x universe. I'm already pissed that their is an Hellfire club but not all the members present and they aren't battling the correct Xteam.

There's always room for those things in future. The Hellfire Club is an organisation that probably has many members and could easily return in another film.

Part of the brilliance of this film is leaving you wanting to see where things go next. That surprised me, considering that it was marketed as a prequel so we know how it all ends, but in fact it also feels like a reboot/reinvention that could include so much more we haven't yet seen.

[X-Maniac]

But I have seen both Donner and Singer say they dont want to introduce space and time travel?

Well, those things could be introduced. Since the years after First Class lead to men going to the moon and the space race etc, it could be an opportunity to add space travel...

As for time travel, that might be introduced if ever they do Days of Future Past in an X4 (which would also be perfect for Sentinels and Cable).

There are still many ways to do it? There's ways to explain everything, to get from the end of XMFC to the start of X1 and taking XOWolverine into account.

Look I know theres lots of X-men comic fans who weren't happy with Last Stand or Wolverine but I know lots more X-men MOVIE fans who enjoyed them. Anyone who really thinks there gonna be just ignored isn't facing reality

First Class feels like it belongs with all the existing movies, yet is also a reinvention. There is plenty of room for exploration, which may or may not restrict itself to what was established already. First Class feels like it establishes its own world, its own path, and the potential is endless...

[Nokio]

Emma spent longer being a villian than she has a x-men so thats why shes probs not an x-man in this.

Sorry buddy, Emma has been with the Xmen longer then she was a villian. Her first appearence was in 1980 in the Xmen as a villian with the hellfire club. 1994 she joined Prof X and he put her and Banshee in charge of the school to train the next gen of mutants. Generation X 1 came out in 1994 and she has been part of the Xmen ever sense. 1980-1993 is 13 years. 1994-2011 is 17 years. Even during her time fram on the other side she wasn't a heavily featured mutant that the Xmen battled on a regular basis. I'd also point out that she was out of commission and in a coma for a few years before 1993.

This is also the movieverse so things need to be shortened. I wouldn't be surprised if she is part of the Xmen or join Xavier in a sequel to 1st class. Frost is one of the most popular female characters in comics and on the Xmen, it'll be insane for FOX not to put her on the team. But then again this FOX is we are talking about.

[Nokio]

So Vaughan is adding another mutant, one he says that will be able to be a match enough for Magneto. I don't think it'll be another villian. It'll probably be an Xmen. Maybe Polaris since Havok is there. If it's a male I can only think of Sunfire right now. Someone mentioned they were supposed to include Synch in this movie and since he can duplicate any mutant's power he'd be good but I doubt it'll be him. Probably be a female character so I go with Polaris. Since this is FOX she won't be Magneto's daughter.

I think Emma will also return and be with the Xavier. Vaughan said he didn't want to introduce anymore new characters but 1. They should have another female on the team. It'll be Emma probably and maybe Sunfire for new character.

[Marvin]

Wolverine!!!

[Nokio]

You must have been pissed since X-Men 1 came out. 11 years of bitterness.

Nah dude, I don't hold on to $h!t like that. Just complain when the movie comes out and I see the crap that FOX does and talk on the boards. I just find it uncalled for to make changes for no reason in comic films. I give a lot of leway and I've said many times that changes are needed in some cases to adapt comics to the big screen. People was upset over Spidey having organic webshooters, I defended it.

I won't go all out in mentioning changes but I will say that FOX has screwed up the most and it baffles me. They just seem to change things for the nothing other then the sake of change with no logical reason behind it. The F4 films are another fine point to back up my claims. Not every change in the X films was bad but most of them were. It just makes me wonder does anyone that have a say in these films actually pick up an xmen book and look up some history. Prime example, Moira is not a world renown genetic DR but instead she's some CIA operative. Why did they need to change her position?? What was the point. I can see if it's easing the story in some capicity but it's not, especially when their is an actual GOV FEMALE AGENT THAT WORKS IN THE MUTANT AFFAIRS DIVISION NAME AGENT VALERIE COOPER. A character that has a long history in the Xbooks and popular enough in her own right.

It's whatever though. I read a lot of comments from Singer and some from Vaughan and it seems these guys are adding their own spin to the xmen cause they can and along with FOX. Mavel has no creative power and it's why we get the movies we get. Singer went on board Superman with his take and the movie's success was so so because of him. Singer is a blight on these films. This guy shouldn't be allowed to touch a Superhero flick. I said back before SUperman came that it was going to be mediocre, while everyone was gushing over Singer being on board. Everyone complained about X3 and blamed Ratner. I'm not so a sure a Singer directed X3 wouldn't have been much different. Singer left an outline. Ratner got blamed unfairly. The guy was brought on to just shoot the film. The script and outline was already done and it had Singer's input.

[Sentinel X]

i dont think they're really going for continuity with the previous x-films...
seeing as how mystique and beast are already older teens in this. that would make them like 60 yrs old now.
plus jean and cyclops should have been born already and be the same age, they were the first.

i dont care if they are not in this film, i accepted that long ago because i understood why vaughn would distance himself from whats already been done. Well Mystique has a really unusually mutation so maybe she ages significantly slower than normal people however Beast looked like he was in his 60s in X3. At the same time what doesn't make sense is that if thats really storm we see in the featurette, that would make her about 50 years old!! There is no way she is that old in the original trilogy.

I say Jean, Scott, and Ororo were all born late 60s to early 70s. In addition the cameo should probably not be taken too seriously.

[BenReilly]

Prime example, Moira is not a world renown genetic DR but instead she's some CIA operative. Why did they need to change her position?? What was the point. I can see if it's easing the story in some capicity but it's not, especially when their is an actual GOV FEMALE AGENT THAT WORKS IN THE MUTANT AFFAIRS DIVISION NAME AGENT VALERIE COOPER. A character that has a long history in the Xbooks and popular enough in her own right.

If it serves the story, there's nothing wrong with changing Moira's profession.

Marvel did the exact same thing in Thor. They changed Jane Foster's profession from a nurse/doctor to a scientist/astrophysicist and it worked.

Everyone complained about X3 and blamed Ratner. I'm not so a sure a Singer directed X3 wouldn't have been much different. Singer left an outline. Ratner got blamed unfairly. The guy was brought on to just shoot the film. The script and outline was already done and it had Singer's input.

Not true.

Singer never left an outline. Once he left the franchise, he took his treatment (for X3) with him before it was ever presented to the studio. Lauren Shuler-Donner has mentioned this before.

Singer had nothing to do with any part of X3 and yes, his version would have been quite different.

[insane polaris]

Sorry buddy, Emma has been with the Xmen longer then she was a villian. Her first appearence was in 1980 in the Xmen as a villian with the hellfire club. 1994 she joined Prof X and he put her and Banshee in charge of the school to train the next gen of mutants. Generation X 1 came out in 1994 and she has been part of the Xmen ever sense. 1980-1993 is 13 years. 1994-2011 is 17 years. Even during her time fram on the other side she wasn't a heavily featured mutant that the Xmen battled on a regular basis. I'd also point out that she was out of commission and in a coma for a few years before 1993.

This is also the movieverse so things need to be shortened. I wouldn't be surprised if she is part of the Xmen or join Xavier in a sequel to 1st class. Frost is one of the most popular female characters in comics and on the Xmen, it'll be insane for FOX not to put her on the team. But then again this FOX is we are talking about.

Ah yes, I forgot about Gen X. I never read it and its never really mentioned in the comics, so I always forget about it.

But still I dont think she will be an X-man in the movies. There will be too many telepaths on the good side, say if they introduce Jean as well.

Plus Emma is also a heavy hitter (Diamond form), so that replaces another x-men on the team.

Its more logical for her to remain a villian in the movies, unless they make her intentions hidden.

[Excelsior.]

I'm sure there will be more than "only one new character". This is an X-men film. We will see new student recruits at least.

One more thing, the general public doesn't really care about the finer details. They watch a movie, usually once, and then move on with their lives.

[Nokio]

Ah yes, I forgot about Gen X. I never read it and its never really mentioned in the comics, so I always forget about it.

But still I dont think she will be an X-man in the movies. There will be too many telepaths on the good side, say if they introduce Jean as well.

Plus Emma is also a heavy hitter (Diamond form), so that replaces another x-men on the team.

Its more logical for her to remain a villian in the movies, unless they make her intentions hidden.

I guess that could work but i don't want to see her as a villain again. She makes for an interesting choice on the xmen and if written as well as she is in the comics she could be fun on the Xteam. Their has been good chemistry between her and the others like Storm, Logan, Scott, Iceman, and so on. She is far more interesting then Jean Grey. I like Jean but she just bores me to tears, Jean was only ever interesting during the Dark Phoenix saga and despite numerous attempts from different writers this woman is still boring. She not even missed and has been dead again for 7 years now. Emma being stuck in the 60's is also the reason I'm upset over her being used. They have displaced her and made her a contemporary of Xavier and Magneto. It is what it is, but despite her not interacting with the popular team line up and is now in Xavier's age range she would still be interesting to be with him and the other students. It'll be great to see him and her clash, cause Xavier has a moral compass and he doesn't like to invade peoples' mind or take control of them when it suites him where as Emma does. He knows she's not evil but he does have issues with the way she goes about things. I think it'll make for some entertaining moments between the two. He's telling her that's not the right thing to do and she telling him why have power if you're not going to use it. Also her Diamond form gives her the abilty to also fight on a physical level. Just a thought.

Emma as a villain doesn't work because she has always been nothing more then an underling for Shaw. She's never hatched any plans or devised schemes against the Xmen, she's never been the big bad behind anything in the Marvel universe. Emma isn't evil, she's just bad at times and has questionable morals. You need to read her limited series to get an understanding of her and you'll see she's not a good fit for an Evil mutant bent on the Xmen or humanities destruction. Marvel did good putting making her on the Xmen. In doing so it has made her one of the most popular and interesting female characters in Comics. She was never on the radar as a classic villain and was seen as nothing more then a underling and a female nemesis with telepathic powers for Xavier when the Xmen battled the Hellfire club.

[Nokio]

If it serves the story, there's nothing wrong with changing Moira's profession.

Marvel did the exact same thing in Thor. They changed Jane Foster's profession from a nurse/doctor to a scientist/astrophysicist and it worked.



Not true.

Singer never left an outline. Once he left the franchise, he took his treatment (for X3) with him before it was ever presented to the studio. Lauren Shuler-Donner has mentioned this before.

Singer had nothing to do with any part of X3 and yes, his version would have been quite different.

Well actually the change did serve to further the movie and translate it better for the big screen. Also Jane Foster started out a nurse and became a MD in the comics long before the Thor film came out. So I didn't see a problem with the change in the film. She is still a Dr, so what they changed the type she is in the comics. I'm pretty sure an Astrophysicist is a Dr. In Xmen and typical FOX fashion they make a change for no reason that i can see. Mctaggartt is a Geneticist in the comic and here she is a CIA agent. If their was no other characters in the Xmen universe that could've been used I could live with it but have you heard of Valerie Cooper. She is an actual Gov agent and director of the division on Mutant Affairs in the US Gov. She's has a long history in the Xmen universe and why they couldn't use her if they needed a female CIA agent is beyond me. It actually make sense for them to use her. I'm pretty sure X Factor was a group of mutants working on behalf of the Gov and Cooper was the Liason. It would seem she would be a no brainer for the role Rose Bryne is playing in XMFC. Unfortunately they decide to alter Moria for no reason and she was also featured in X3. Backwards in my opinion.

I don't know how Singer would be able to leave with any form of treatment unless he owned the rites to the Xmen. It would seem any treatment he did on Xmen with outlines and scripts would be the property of FOX and not his to pack up and take with him. I didn't follow what came after I read where he said himself that he told FOX he would do X3 after he was done with Superman but Fox decided to move on. He then said he left an outline for the story and direction he wanted to go. Even the screenwriter said that he had worked with Singer on a direction and that some ideas they came up with an some that Singer wanted to explore was in the script. I read that with my own eyes from a reliable website. Now what you saying is probably true as well. You may have read that Singer had nothing to do with X3, but since X3 was critically raked over the coals by fans it would seem smart for the man to distance himself from it.

Here is a quote from Singer on why he thinks Superman returns failed:

"I think that Superman Returns was a bit nostalgic and romantic, and I don't think that was what people were expecting, especially in the summer," Singer said in an interview with VoicesFromKrypton.com. "What I had noticed is that there weren't a lot of women lining up to see a comic book movie, but they were going to line up to see The Devil Wears Prada, which may have been something I wanted to address. But when you're making a movie, you're not thinking about that stuff, you're thinking, 'Wow, I want to make a romantic movie that harkens back to the Richard Donner movie that I loved so much.' And that's what I did."

Considering his f up of Superman Returns I'd like if this man just stay the heck away from comic films and stop putting HIS D@MN PERSONAL take on them. Where he got the notion that Supes needed to be more romantic and chic friendly is beyond me. This isn't the type of material to try and change to appeal to the "Devil Wears Prada" crowd. Good lord if that comment or the comment he made that "he's making Superman more of a chick flick" don't send red flags to people that this man don't belong in this genre then i don't know what will.

[BenReilly]

Well actually the change did serve to further the movie and translate it better for the big screen. Also Jane Foster started out a nurse and became a MD in the comics long before the Thor film came out. So I didn't see a problem with the change in the film. She is still a Dr, so what they changed the type she is in the comics. I'm pretty sure an Astrophysicist is a Dr. In Xmen and typical FOX fashion they make a change for no reason that i can see. Mctaggartt is a Geneticist in the comic and here she is a CIA agent. If their was no other characters in the Xmen universe that could've been used I could live with it but have you heard of Valerie Cooper. She is an actual Gov agent and director of the division on Mutant Affairs in the US Gov. She's has a long history in the Xmen universe and why they couldn't use her if they needed a female CIA agent is beyond me. It actually make sense for them to use her. I'm pretty sure X Factor was a group of mutants working on behalf of the Gov and Cooper was the Liason. It would seem she would be a no brainer for the role Rose Bryne is playing in XMFC. Unfortunately they decide to alter Moria for no reason and she was also featured in X3. Backwards in my opinion.

It's the same thing, any way you try and rationalize it. You can't condemn Fox, when Marvel made the exact same change to the love interest in their last film.

I don't know how Singer would be able to leave with any form of treatment unless he owned the rites to the Xmen. It would seem any treatment he did on Xmen with outlines and scripts would be the property of FOX and not his to pack up and take with him. I didn't follow what came after I read where he said himself that he told FOX he would do X3 after he was done with Superman but Fox decided to move on. He then said he left an outline for the story and direction he wanted to go. Even the screenwriter said that he had worked with Singer on a direction and that some ideas they came up with an some that Singer wanted to explore was in the script. I read that with my own eyes from a reliable website. Now what you saying is probably true as well. You may have read that Singer had nothing to do with X3, but since X3 was critically raked over the coals by fans it would seem smart for the man to distance himself from it.

Singer was never signed on to do X3. That was the issue back then, so technically anything he wrote or he would have used wouldn't have belonged to Fox.

The script that was used for The Last Stand was written well after Singer had already left and he had nothing to do with it.

Here is a quote from Singer on why he thinks Superman returns failed:

"I think that Superman Returns was a bit nostalgic and romantic, and I don't think that was what people were expecting, especially in the summer," Singer said in an interview with VoicesFromKrypton.com. "What I had noticed is that there weren't a lot of women lining up to see a comic book movie, but they were going to line up to see The Devil Wears Prada, which may have been something I wanted to address. But when you're making a movie, you're not thinking about that stuff, you're thinking, 'Wow, I want to make a romantic movie that harkens back to the Richard Donner movie that I loved so much.' And that's what I did."

Considering his f up of Superman Returns I'd like if this man just stay the heck away from comic films and stop putting HIS D@MN PERSONAL take on them. Where he got the notion that Supes needed to be more romantic and chic friendly is beyond me. This isn't the type of material to try and change to appeal to the "Devil Wears Prada" crowd. Good lord if that comment or the comment he made that "he's making Superman more of a chick flick" don't send red flags to people that this man don't belong in this genre then i don't know what will.

I couldn't be happier that's he's back. The franchise suffered during his absence and now that he's back the series finally seems to be back on the right track.

[Nokio]

It's the same thing, any way you try and rationalize it. You can't condemn Fox, when Marvel made the exact same change to the love interest in their last film.



Singer was never signed on to do X3. That was the issue back then, so technically anything he wrote or he would have used wouldn't have belonged to Fox.

The script that was used for The Last Stand was written well after Singer had already left and he had nothing to do with it.



I couldn't be happier that's he's back. The franchise suffered during his absence and now that he's back the series finally seems to be back on the right track.


Explain to me how dropping an important aspect about Moria's background is a sensible change? It was different in Thor because there was no character that existed in the comics that could've been used. Also Jane was still a Dr, just no longer an MD. In the X verse their already existed a female character who is actually a Federal agent and heads up the mutant affairs dept. Like I said it would seem like a no brainer to have just used Cooper. I guess Moria can do double duty as a CIA agent in this film and be a geneticist in a sequel. Never mind that the character was in X3, some 40 years in the future. I guess it could've been her daughter. It's inconsistencies like this is why I say FOX makes changes for reasons that serve no purpose. You already have characters that exist in the X universe that can be used. It makes no sense to change established ones.

I know Singer never signed on to do X3. I just remember reading where he said that FOX chose to move on and that he left an outline and where he wanted to take the franchise. The screenwriter said that he had worked on an outline with Singer and some ideas he had. Well all I can say is I'm not crazy and I know what I read. I'm not saying Singer worked on the shooting script for X3 but the man got far enough in to pre production because he also was set to cast Sigourney Weaver as Emma Frost in X3, but she wasn't going to be a telepath but just an Empath and no hellfire club. Yeah another change that serves no purpose if Singer had his way. I'm not sure what the reason would be to change Emma's powers. Switching and changing powers is a no no to me unless their is a valid reason for the change. Shaw's energy absorbing abilities in the movie have been tweaked. I don't mind that slight change cause it looks to make the character more visually interesting.

I'm glad someone is happy about Singer, but I would give Vaughan more credit for XMFC then I would Singer.

[BMM]

Let me get this straight. You want Moira MacTaggert, who is actually relevant to Xavier’s origin, to be removed from First Class because you’re mad the film is altering comic book continuity via MacTaggert’s profession, and you’re suggestion is to replace her with Valerie Cooper, a woman who has absolutely no relevance to Xavier’s origin, and that somehow makes it better?

[Nokio]

Let me get this straight. You want Moira MacTaggert, who is actually relevant to Xavier’s origin, to be removed from First Class because you’re mad the film is altering comic book continuity via MacTaggert’s profession, and you’re suggestion is to replace her with Valerie Cooper, a woman who has absolutely no relevance to Xavier’s origin, and that somehow makes it better?


Why not? Frost, Havoc, Beast, Mystique, Shaw, Angel, Darwin and Banshee aren't relevant to Charles and Erik's origin but hey they are present. You're not providing a good enough reason why it was needed to change her to a CIA agent and no longer a leading class geneticist. The history is all ready Mangled and Moria was in X3 some 40 years in the future played by a women who was in her late 30's to early 40's. I want u to tell me how Moira the CIA agent is relevant to his origin? Fox has thrown that relevance out the window already. I'll say it again, I'm all for changes that make sense
but this doesn't. Ican even excuse the Moira that was in X3 and accept that she's a CIA agent
who is also a specialist in the field of genetics, hence the reason she is assigned to work with
Xavier. Nope, they just dropped an important aspect of her character for no logical reason, just
like Juggs wasn't even mentioned to be Xavier's brother in X3.

As for Valerie Cooper, she is an actual federal agent and one that works in the Dept of Mutant affairs, she could've been used. You say why use a woman who had no relevance to Xavier's origin and I say to you that everyone else is displaced in Fox's version of the Xmen, so it really wouldn't have mattered that she was in the 60's now as well. At least the character's relationship to the Xmen would be accurate seeing as how Cooper is an ACTUAL Gov agent that deals with mutants.

[henzINNIT]

I'm not exactly a fan of Fox, but I'm glad Marvel hasn't rebooted X-Men. They've only got one great film to their name (Iron Man), so I'm not jumping on the "let Marvel make everything!" bandwagon. X2 > Marvel's output so far.

[X-Maniac]

Why not? Frost, Havoc, Beast, Mystique, Shaw, Angel, Darwin and Banshee aren't relevant to Charles and Erik's origin but hey they are present. You're not providing a good enough reason why it was needed to change her to a CIA agent and no longer a leading class geneticist. The history is all ready Mangled and Moria was in X3 some 40 years in the future played by a women who was in her late 30's to early 40's. I want u to tell me how Moira the CIA agent is relevant to his origin? Fox has thrown that relevance out the window already. I'll say it again, I'm all for changes that make sense
but this doesn't. Ican even excuse the Moira that was in X3 and accept that she's a CIA agent
who is also a specialist in the field of genetics, hence the reason she is assigned to work with
Xavier. Nope, they just dropped an important aspect of her character for no logical reason, just
like Juggs wasn't even mentioned to be Xavier's brother in X3.

As for Valerie Cooper, she is an actual federal agent and one that works in the Dept of Mutant affairs, she could've been used. You say why use a woman who had no relevance to Xavier's origin and I say to you that everyone else is displaced in Fox's version of the Xmen, so it really wouldn't have mattered that she was in the 60's now as well. At least the character's relationship to the Xmen would be accurate seeing as how Cooper is an ACTUAL Gov agent that deals with mutants.

I think it would be quite possible to show Moira setting up Muir Island in the future, possibly as a result of having a mutant child.

For this film she is indeed a CIA agent and the explanation by those involved in the film is that she too is also represented as an outcast (a woman in a CIA that was very sexist back then) and this helps her empathise with the mutants' cause. It's a perfectly logical (and rather brilliant) explanation. They've restricted the genetics stuff to Xavier, who is a professor after all.

This sort of alteration of roles is the same reason Jean Grey was a doctor/scientist in X1 when Beast wasn't able to be included.

On screen it makes sense. She still feels like Moira, particularly towards the end of the movie.

[Nokio]

I think it would be quite possible to show Moira setting up Muir Island in the future, possibly as a result of having a mutant child.

For this film she is indeed a CIA agent and the explanation by those involved in the film is that she too is also represented as an outcast (a woman in a CIA that was very sexist back then) and this helps her empathise with the mutants' cause. It's a perfectly logical (and rather brilliant) explanation. They've restricted the genetics stuff to Xavier, who is a professor after all.

This sort of alteration of roles is the same reason Jean Grey was a doctor/scientist in X1 when Beast wasn't able to be included.

On screen it makes sense. She still feels like Moira, particularly towards the end of the movie.

I guess they can do that, but she has a mutant child and then become on of the leading geneticist on Earth?? What, does she have the kid and when he reaches puberty she discovers he's a mutant and she enlists in College and becomes a world class geneticist??? Not buying that one. That's also a lot of time. I'm sure a geneticist is a Dr right? How many years is supposed to float by with the same actress playing her? Ok I guess.

[pyromaniac]

I guess they can do that, but she has a mutant child and then become on of the leading geneticist on Earth?? What, does she have the kid and when he reaches puberty she discovers he's a mutant and she enlists in College and becomes a world class geneticist??? Not buying that one. That's also a lot of time. I'm sure a geneticist is a Dr right? How many years is supposed to float by with the same actress playing her? Ok I guess.

There are lots of people who can switch main careers in their life time. An average of three. In fact you could say that upon meeting Xavier she developed an interest in genetics. Coupled with the rampant sexism of the time, she might be compelled to leave the agency and look towards science.

It's a plausible scenario.

[Nokio]

There are lots of people who can switch main careers in their life time. An average of three. In fact you could say that upon meeting Xavier she developed an interest in genetics. Coupled with the rampant sexism of the time, she might be compelled to leave the agency and look towards science.

It's a plausible scenario.

Really?? I would think that someone becoming a world class leader in Genetics would have entered field very early in life. They probably already excelled at science in K-12 and went on and entered the field right in college. I could be wrong.

[insane polaris]

Really?? I would think that someone becoming a world class leader in Genetics would have entered field very early in life. They probably already excelled at science in K-12 and went on and entered the field right in college. I could be wrong.


Prof. Brian Cox was in a band and had hits in the charts and then he reached 30 got a degree in Physics and now is Britains greatest Physicist.

so It can be done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(physicist)

[BMM]

Why not? Frost, Havoc, Beast, Mystique, Shaw, Angel, Darwin and Banshee aren't relevant to Charles and Erik's origin but hey they are present. You're not providing a good enough reason why it was needed to change her to a CIA agent and no longer a leading class geneticist.

And you’re not providing a good enough reason for why it matters, especially since your argument for including someone like Valerie Cooper rests on the same logic as to why Moira may not be a geneticist—the movies are different from the books.

I want u to tell me how Moira the CIA agent is relevant to his origin?

I want you to tell me how it’s not, especially since you haven’t seen the movie and you’re the one making a big deal out of it. Moreover, I want you to tell me what's preventing her from becoming more like her comic book counterpart in future movies.

As for Valerie Cooper, she is an actual federal agent and one that works in the Dept of Mutant affairs, she could've been used. You say why use a woman who had no relevance to Xavier's origin and I say to you that everyone else is displaced in Fox's version of the Xmen, so it really wouldn't have mattered that she was in the 60's now as well. At least the character's relationship to the Xmen would be accurate seeing as how Cooper is an ACTUAL Gov agent that deals with mutants.

No, her profession would be somewhat similar in that she would interact with the Government. Her relationship to the X-Men would not. Valerie Cooper does not have a relationship with Xavier, like Moira in the books or First Class.

[Silvermoth]

It'll be insane if X-23 was the incoming mutant.

[pyromaniac]

Really?? I would think that someone becoming a world class leader in Genetics would have entered field very early in life. They probably already excelled at science in K-12 and went on and entered the field right in college. I could be wrong.

I think you need to know more people with career switches. That's all.

[ken smith]

Why did everyone change the topic? Vaughn said only one new character in the sequel and i have researched every possible x-men, none of them match Magneto. I believe this new character will be a villain and it is likely going to be Juggernaut or Mr Sinister. What does anyone think of Matthew Vaughn's version of Juggernaut?

[Doctor Jones]

Smart move for this.

Of course, people will ***** and want more characters. But adding too many characters doesn't amount to **** when they're barely existent and have nothing to do with the plot and ultimately be wasted. So what was even the point? Then fans will ***** and say that they should have played it smart and limit.

So play it smart. Playing it smart is the most important thing.

[marvelrobbins]

The second part of this trilogy will mostly be returns from First Class.
matthew vaughn wants to do more with the cast he assembled from First
Class rather than throw a whole lot of new Characters In(read The Last
Stand) but according to
Xavier becomes crippled.Beast,Banshee,and Havok remain team at end of First Class.To protect themselves he mindwipes Moira.Mystique,Angel,
Azarel,Riptide,and Emma Frost all end up on Magneto's side after Magneto
kills Shaw and attempt to kill all the mutans with Missiles In Cuba.There will be no need to add new characters to the Brotherhood.But,there will likely be a new addation to the X-Men.This Is probally who Vaughn Is adding.The sequel will most likely be taking place In early 1970's.It has already been discussed of moving second part of trilogy to 1970's.They don't want to jump too far ahead so they can keep the cast.Moira could start to move to becoming a scientist,and In Sequel we could see Magneto and his brotherhood
launching public attacks on Humans.Remember the history In this trilogy will be the X-Men Marvel Universe version of history.As for new X-Man It might even be Gambit.In sequel we may see what caused Xavier to lose his hair.And If Vaughn Is able to use his Idea of Magneto being responable for the Magic Bullet killing Kennedy that sets up Magneto launching attacks

It would be third and final part of trilogy where we would see changes In the Cast The Third film would probally be set mid to late 1970's or Early1980's.This would be when Cyclops,Jean Grey,and Storm are brought In.Here the returning cast will have to be made to look older.Now I have speculated that X4 could be made before the second and third parts of the First Class trilogy In part to give the first Class actors more time before the final part.Now In First Class Storm and Cyclops as children are seen briefly In Cerebro sequenze.These may be just be easter eggs like Human Looking Beast and Dr Shaw on TV In X2 but they could be sign they will recon the event of X-Men/X2 taking place In Early to mid 1990's Instead of sometime in the 2000's.With Xavier being crippled In First Class new takes of how Xavier meet Jean and Cyclops are likely.If they want to completly Ignore Last Stand Angel could be Introduced as Student with Cyclops,Jean,and Storm.Sabretooth could be brought In as Brotherhood member.Since Xavier was well aware of him In First film.If they Intend as it appears to completly
ignore Wolverine then Blob could be a Brotherhood member.Vaughn has also talked about bringing back Patrick stewart and Ian Mckellan for flashforwards In sequels.I suspect some cast members(Havok,Banshee,Angel,Azarel,Riptide)may be dropped In third film to Introduce more Younger versions of characters from the Singer films or doing new versions from films(The Last Stand/Wolverine) mostly Ignored.Vaughn IS bluring the line between prequel and reboot with First Class according to reports but it still serves as prequels at least to Singer's films

[ken smith]

Can gambit take on Magneto?

[pyromaniac]

Gambit is a better foe for Magneto than Wolverine is, that's for sure. Actually you've raised a good point.

Nemesis doesn't necessarily mean it'll be an enemy. It could even be a hero. Vaughn was saying it would be Magneto's nemesis, which would make it the protagonist in our eyes considering that he's made a lot of enemies in the comics (our heroes). So that widens the scope a bit.

[JP]

Just speculating, as I've obviously not seen the film nor read the spoilers, but it seems that the only member of the hellfire Club who would return is Emma. So, just by that a First Class sequel will already be down 4 characters.

I think the smart thing to do is introduce a new villain that we've never seen before, and bring in Cyclops, Jean, and Storm, even if we're still in the 60's.

[protocida]

It could be Sage.

[conan69]

Magneto & "magic bullet" = brilliant idea.

IMHO we're looking at Singers favorite Xmen villian...... Proteus. You have Magnetos mastery of metal/magnetism and a foe whos only weakness is metal.

Hopefully Magneto wont be the focal point of the sequel, Cyclops will appear in the next film, and have plenty to do.

[Nokio]

Why did everyone change the topic? Vaughn said only one new character in the sequel and i have researched every possible x-men, none of them match Magneto. I believe this new character will be a villain and it is likely going to be Juggernaut or Mr Sinister. What does anyone think of Matthew Vaughn's version of Juggernaut?

Synch and Nate Grey are easily, Nate is the arguably the most powerful mutant of all, well under Franklin Richards. Bishop is powerful enough to take on Magneto when he's charged up enough. I doubt it'll be any of them, infact I know it won't be Richards or Grey. Synch and Bishop are minority characters so it's highly unlikly it'll be either of them as well. The track record with non white characters are well known. Won't be Juggs either. I don't see it being Sinister. He would never get into a fight unless he's pushed in a corner, he stays behind the scenes despite him being powerful. Sunfire and Sunspot are powerful mutants and movie Magneto is not as powerful as comic book magneto, so maybe but their is that non white issue butthey have a better chance then a black character. It may end up being Polaris. With Havoc there and no other females I think she looks like a good shot. She won't be Mags's daughter though.

[Nokio]

I'll also go outside the box and say the Grey King. A very obscure character and good choice in my opinion and he hasn't much of a history so I don't see using him upseting anyone, infact his origin can be easily re written for a movie since his orgin from the comics is pretty simple and won't affect anything.

[ken smith]

Nokio,you are right. Movie Magneto isn't as powerful as his comicbook version. I researched sunspot and he seems very powerful. Maybe the new character is him or it could be Synch, as he's a powerful character; but he's a black character.

[X-Maniac]

Well, the First Class co-writers Ashley Millers and Zack Stentz said they'd love to see Cable brought in.

They were at the London Comic Con on a panel for First Class. Article here (http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2011/05/x-men-first-class-nearly-inclu.html)

[Project862006]

:oldrazz:nuff said

http://www.silverfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_lang.jpg

[Majik1387]

I'd rather we not have a ****ty character like Cable

[jignat]

Its out of left field, but what about Proteus?

He has incredible reality-warping powers, and can inhabit others bodies.
Plus, it could develop or expand on Moiras character. Maybe she is compelled to devote her life to mutant research/set up Muir Isle research facility.

[BMM]

I would love to see Proteus in an X-Men film, at some point.

[Primal Slayer]

If Mystique and Angel (well mainly Mystique) are off the X-team by the end of this movie I wouldnt be surprised if they add a new female X-men since they would want another female on theam I would think. Unless Emma joins Xavier and co.

[EnDz0n3]

I'd rather we not have a ****ty character like Cable

From a ****ty movie, like Avatar, no less. (Yes I'm well aware that he's appeared in other movies).

And hell to the no on having White Queen/Emma as an X-men, just based on the portrayal of the character on first class alone.

[psylockolussus]

It seems like all the villains from First Class are gonna be in Second Class.

Oh man I thought they would kill some of them.

[ken smith]

I was never expecting Cable, i hope they don't make him some time travelling dude. It won't make the sequel look real

[onDgrind]

I was never expecting Cable, i hope they don't make him some time travelling dude. It won't make the sequel look real

Realy? I blame TDK for this, all of a sudden everything has to have a bit of realism. Its a comic book movie, it aint real,as long as the character fits into the story i dont care.

[Majik1387]

To be fair to TDK(which I don't defend like a nolanite), Cable's run in the comics always seemed a bit ridiculous to me.

[Donut]

Its a comic book movie, it aint real

Boom goes the dynamite. ****ing Nolan

[Nokio]

I'd rather we not have a ****ty character like Cable

Amen Brother. No Cable or any of the other versions. Even though Nate Grey has been one of my favorite characters any version of this guy should not sow up in a first class sequel before Jean and Scott. Weird that I like Nate but could care less about Cable and they both the same guy. Cable was always a character I felt was a waste of time. I know his history and all is important to the Xmen but I just never cared for the character and hated when he would show up. I'm glad he's dead and gone and hope this is a character that Marvel leaves on the ash heap of history.

[Majik1387]

Yeah it's weird but I'm the same. I like Nate Grey, hate Cable. I wouldn't mind Nate Grey in a future movie, not anytime soon, but I would rather no Cable ever; or take what good there may be about Cable, and just combine it with Nate Grey's character.

[mightiest_mortal]

MAybe he means more literally his equal...


ie. Polaris. She would fit with the new class theme as well and be a love interest for havok.

[Nokio]

If Mystique and Angel (well mainly Mystique) are off the X-team by the end of this movie I wouldnt be surprised if they add a new female X-men since they would want another female on theam I would think. Unless Emma joins Xavier and co.

God please let them do that. Emma isn't a villain. She's been on the Xmen longer then she was a villain in the comics. Even though She's not tied to Scott I think it'll be good to see her interact with Xavier and watch them bounce off each other on the ethics of right and wrong on invading someone's mind. I fear however since Xavier and Emma are both telepaths that they'll want her with Magneto so he can have one on his team to interfere with Xavier.

[Majik1387]

Considering Vaughn had to correct himself by adding in "she", I'm pretty certain that we can exclude the new character being a woman.

[Nokio]

And hell to the no on having White Queen/Emma as an X-men, just based on the portrayal of the character on first class alone.


Umm she's an Xman. Regardless if you feel she should be a villain based on the FC movie it's not accurate. Their is plenty of change already going on in them movies. Let's not start making more and more Xmen villains. Bad enough they did it in X3 with MM and Psylocke. Stick to the D@mn source material and stop changing characters and screwing with their powers. Is it to much to ask to keep the Xmen the good guys? Christ, their are plenty of villains to be used with out making Xmen villains and putting them on a team with Magneto all of sudden. Heck
their are brotherhood mutants who haven't been used in a film. Avalanche for starters.

[quara33]

Heck
their are brotherhood mutants who haven't been used in a film. Avalanche for starters.

Heh, I can just imagine post-X3 San Francisco finding out there was a dude that can trigger earthquakes working alongside the dude that re-routed the bridge.

[chaseter]

If they wanted to do X4 and connect it to these prequels then the only way I really see that working out is with Cable. Have him be in X4 and he comes back to First Class 2 and we get a Star Trek alternate timeline deal.

Then again they are ignoring X3 and Wolverine so Vaughn and Singer can do whatever the hell they want!

[ken smith]

But Matthew Vaughn is a good director, if he wants to put bring in Cable, am sure it would work out excellently.

[Majik1387]

cable is not the end all be all to connect the movies. Again, choose a non-****ty character.

[psylockolussus]

I think Cable would be too confusing for the movies but his character will definitely bring something new to the X-movies - time travel!

[chaseter]

Majik hates Cable...we get it.

[ken smith]

What if Cable is created by the CIA/Military in the sequel to hunt down mutants after the incidents in Cuba?

[Majik1387]

I think Cable would be too confusing for the movies but his character will definitely bring something new to the X-movies - time travel!
Do we really want that though? :csad:
I'm not anti-time travel or anything, but whats the last good movie that had time travel involved without it being ridiculous or contradictory?
Majik hates Cable...we get it.
I'm not the only one.:o
What if Cable is created by the CIA/Military in the sequel to hunt down mutants after the incidents in Cuba?
Or they can just use a character from the comics that's already similar to that instead of shoe-horning needless characters into roles they don't belong.

[Nightmare]

Cable, Bishop, Mr Sinister, Apocalypse!

[SuperT]

I just think Cable, time-travel, the cosmic portions of the X-Men history would come off cheap and cheesy if they tried to bring it to a big screen adaptation.

Apocalypse would have to seriously be tweaked a bit too if they ever thought of bringing him in as well.

Sinister could easily work though.

[chaseter]

That means that Sentinels are out too then...

[SuperT]

No, I think the Sentinels could conceivably work in a movie. Maybe don't make them the skyscraper sized robots they are in the comic's and cartoons.

Maybe 10-13ft tall super robots, kinda like the ones that Iron Man fought at the end of IM2, something like that.

[def28]

Yeah as long as they are intimidating they should work fine in a film. No need for skyscraper size but that could be cool if they have a decent way to write it in.

[chaseter]

If time travel in these movie is too much...hundreds of robots that hunt mutants isn't? Wut? Homo sapiens in an attempt to control and destroy mutants build giant robots? That's silly. The only thing sentinels provided in the comics were power fodder until Mastermold was introduced and then they got even more ridiculous.

[SuperT]

It literally doesn't have to be HUNDREDS of robots running around everywhere. Maybe just a handful.

It worked perfectly fine in Iron Man 2.

[chaseter]

Iron Man 2 wasn't just ok...but that movie is about robots and technology so there are machines fighting machines. I would much rather see other mutants than lifeless robots. But again...if we are talking about feasibility and logic in this universe...spending millions or billions to build a robot army is dumb when the exact same weaponry they have can be carried by humans or outfitted onto military vehicles. I think they are better served as an easter egg or brief mention about the program.

[Moofafoo]

Just saw the movie and I still reckon it sets up perfectly for X-men Origins Wolverine to happen!

[Alientraveller]

After seeing the film, I think the reason Vaughn only wants one new character because

Only one major character is killed off and Vaughn will find it easy to juggle more or less the same cast.

I personally hope for Shadow King as a villain: Sinister may be the same too soon as Shaw was given his characteristic of an ageless social Darwinist. We could see Xavier and Emma team up to defeat that psychic monster. The other major things we ought to see is Mystique and Azazel, and Magneto's emnity towards humans mellowing with age as he builds the X-Mansion's Cerebro and his relative tolerance that led to him trying to mutate the world leaders as opposed to killing them all.

[chaseter]

Just saw the movie and I still reckon it sets up perfectly for X-men Origins Wolverine to happen!

Eww

[ken smith]

If the writers are really considering Cable, then am all for it because i know he will be written well.

[Majik1387]

The mention of Cable is just fan speculation. There's no one specifically hinted at other than the new character being a match for both Charles and Erik, and most likely being a male character.

No one knows who the writers are aiming for.

[ken smith]

Well the writers did hint at bringing Cable in the sequel. Here's the link http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2011/05/x-men-first-class-nearly-inclu.html

[Majik1387]

Eh, I don't really take that as a hint, not because of my distaste for Cable either. They say they are introducing one new character, knowing who it is, but not saying who, to then go on to say they'd like to bring in Cable as well. That means the character is picked but they'd like to also bring in Cable.

I'd honestly say that that actually takes Cable out of the running of the mystery new character.:up:

[JP]

Also, they're not the writers. Jane Goldman and Matthew Vaughn are... I highly doubt they're at all be involved with the sequel.

[theJ0K3R]

Could one of the first class movies have Charles go into the future, and that having a way to put Sentinels in a film (future world where it's overtaken with them). Would it be too much to have that storyline with only 2 more movies to tell before we get back into X1? Or maybe they could save that storyline for an X4 (Charles is in an alternate world).

Either way, if they ever go with Apocalypse, I hope it's with the Wolverine, Storm, etc crew and not in a first class film.

[xmangambit]

Would love to see Sinister and Gambit!

[SuperBatman]

I think its too much to hope for to have Apocalyspe in one of these movies I just think he would be a hard character to potray on screen. I wouldn't mind seeing Mr. Sinister though.

[bweurk]

in the sequels, i think it would be interesting to see what happened to Jason Stryker when he was at Xavier's school

[LEX]

Just one? That's great news. After flooding the previous movies with new faces only for them to be taken out of the picture in the same movies after the expiration of their usefulness to the plot (Sabretooth and Toad in X-Men, Deathstrike in X2, and every mutant that joined the Brotherhood in X3), it's refreshing to see something different at work here. When seeing X:FC, I was pleasantly surprised that while Sebastian Shaw gets killed, each of his henchmen and right-hand woman get to live.

Isn't recycling grand?

[chaseter]

It's going to be tricky for January to come back if Mathew Vaughn is her baby's dady. Either Mathew gets a divorce or he works it out and January isn't coming back.

[X-Maniac]

It's going to be tricky for January to come back if Mathew Vaughn is her baby's dady. Either Mathew gets a divorce or he works it out and January isn't coming back.

You are assuming that Matthew is the daddy. Big assumption. I didn't think you'd stoop to tabloid tittle-tattle.

[A Lil Zeker]

Psylocke?
Never been used in the movies, her story could be readapted as the new protégé of Xavier, and a rival for Moira as the new love interest. She may be a physical nemesis for Magneto.

I'd love to see Cable but very difficult to introduce him without Scott Summers.

[chaseter]

You are assuming that Matthew is the daddy. Big assumption. I didn't think you'd stoop to tabloid tittle-tattle.

Read the post again again.:dry:

Jesus Christ :fail:

Or here let me make it easy for you

It's going to be tricky for January to come back if Mathew Vaughn is her baby's dady.

There ya go. Do I also need to point it out to you why it wouldn't be tricky if Bacon was the father? I can if you need help.

[X-Maniac]

Read the post again again.:dry:

Jesus Christ :fail:

Or here let me make it easy for you



There ya go. Do I also need to point it out to you why it wouldn't be tricky if Bacon was the father? I can if you need help.

My bad, and all that. No need to go off into a histrionic strop, lol.

It does sound a weird and very suspect story. If he got her pregnant on set, she'd be about to give birth...

[chamber-music]

Psylocke?
Never been used in the movies, her story could be readapted as the new protégé of Xavier, and a rival for Moira as the new love interest. She may be a physical nemesis for Magneto.

I'd love to see Cable but very difficult to introduce him without Scott Summers.
Psylocke was in X3 but since they are ignoring that they could use her.

They definetly need atleast two more mutants on Xaviers (X-Men) team after the first film and atleast one of them should be a women

[bullets]

That Psylocke in X3 needs to be ignored. I can overlook it.

I'm hoping for Polaris if they add more than one character

[chaseter]

But if it's Polaris then she would be a kid as Mags is her father. While I would love to see Erik's children in a movie, I think he is still too young to be the father of a teen-20 something.

[chamber-music]

Well Fox are against having characters with the same or similar powers usually so I don't think Polaris would be in the sequel anyway and as Chaseter said Erik is about 30 in the movie so Lorna if she existed would only be 10 or perhaps 11 at the oldest

[Majik1387]

But if it's Polaris then she would be a kid as Mags is her father. While I would love to see Erik's children in a movie, I think he is still too young to be the father of a teen-20 something.
I thought she only considered him her father in the comics, despite her not actually being his daughter.

And again, the new character is most likely male.

[bullets]

It was confirmed eventually.

I'm at a loss when it comes to connections because from what I gather they just use who they want and whichever way. I've separated these films from the comics almost entirely.

[chaseter]

They don't completely butcher the comics. The characters are pretty much the same characters but the story lines change up a bit. Polaris isn't going to be a 30 year old woman that falls in love with Magneto. The level of *****ing by fans would be monumental.

[Majik1387]

I wouldn't think she falls in love with Magneto. Who would honestly? :huh:

[jmc247]

But if it's Polaris then she would be a kid as Mags is her father. While I would love to see Erik's children in a movie, I think he is still too young to be the father of a teen-20 something.

The next film likely takes place in the late 60s or early 70s. Thus, no timeline problem with him being the father of a teen or 20 something.

X-Men First Class sequel plans revealed: Flower Power, the '70s and Professor X "really messed up"

The talent behind X-Men: First Class have revealed possible ideas for the next chapters in the mutant superhero saga. The ending of First Class sets up a potential sequel that will be “even more fun”, according to director Matthew Vaughn.

“First Class is similar to Batman Begins, where you have the fun of introducing the characters and getting to know them, but that takes time,” says Vaughn. “But with the second one you can just get on with it and have a rollicking good time,” he continues. “That’s the main difference between Begins and The Dark Knight.”

With First Class set in 1962, part two could move on to the late ‘60s – a period Vaughn is keen to x-plore.

“1962 is far more grounded in the world of the ’50s,” he says. “I think it takes about five years for a decade to really start getting its identity, so the fun thing about this for me would be doing [a sequel] in the latter part of the decade, where you’ve got The Stones, The Beatles, Flower Power…”

There’s also the possibility that the next chapters in the planned First Class trilogy will be set in the 70s and 80s respectively. “That’s an idea that’s been discussed,” admits producer Bryan Singer. “How the characters go through time. But only to a point – they can’t age too fast!”

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/x-men-first-class-sequel-plans-revealed

[Jake Cassidy]

If it's set in the 70's, Dazzler. :woot:

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I'm torn on whether or not I want Cyclops as the new character. Maybe he could finally get the X-Film he deserves, but then again, I'm all for mutants who haven't been put on 35 millimeter, yet.

[chaseter]

The next film likely takes place in the late 60s or early 70s. Thus, no timeline problem with him being the father of a teen or 20 something.

Erik is in his early 30s in this film. If the next movie is set in 1969 or the early 70s he would have had to father a child when he was like 18 if Polaris is going to be late teens or early 20s.

The movie opened in 1945, he would have had to have got him some snatch in 1950 if Polaris is 20 in the next film.

[mightiest_mortal]

I would love it if it was Mastermind. So we see him join the X-Men and then eventually get rejected and thrown out as Xavier realises hes just very fecked up, and just enjoys using his power to mess up other peoples lives.

Then we could see how it all ties into X2.

[pyromaniac]

Well Fox are against having characters with the same or similar powers usually so I don't think Polaris would be in the sequel anyway and as Chaseter said Erik is about 30 in the movie so Lorna if she existed would only be 10 or perhaps 11 at the oldest

Um, teleporting, superstrength, telepathy, flight, energy channeling are all similar if not the same powers in these X-Men films.

[A Lil Zeker]

What about... LILANDRA ?
http://www.comicsblog.fr/images/news/crop2_war-of-kings-lilandra1.jpg

[chamber-music]

Um, teleporting, superstrength, telepathy, flight, energy channeling are all similar if not the same powers in these X-Men films.

Hey its not my logic its Fox say. They thought Gambit and Cyclops powers were too similar to be in a X-Men movie but then put him in Wolverine in which cyclops is in :doh:

Fox Exec logic is a law to its self

[pyromaniac]

Hey its not my logic its Fox say. They thought Gambit and Cyclops powers were too similar to be in a X-Men movie but then put him in Wolverine in which cyclops is in :doh:

Fox Exec logic is a law to its self

I thought that was Singer's logic? :confused:

[chamber-music]

I thought that was Singer's logic? :confused:
I thought it was Donners idea mostly she usually comes up with those kind of stupid ideas :csad:

[Tony Stark]

I thought it was Donners idea mostly she usually comes up with those kind of stupid ideas :csad:

That sounds about right.

[X-Maniac]

Ashley Miller is now saying on Twitter: "We have no idea what's being considered for an XFC2. We just think a CABLE film would rock."

Which is fair enough. They were asked who they wanted to see, Miller said they'd love to bring in Cable. But, of course, that doesn't mean it would happen!

[jmc247]

Erik is in his early 30s in this film. If the next movie is set in 1969 or the early 70s he would have had to father a child when he was like 18 if Polaris is going to be late teens or early 20s.


That isn't exactly an abnormal age in that era for men to have sex and potentally have a child. Given the lack of birth control methods women also had children at a much younger age.

[SuperSoldier985]

That isn't exactly an abnormal age in that era for men to have sex and potentally have a child. Given the lack of birth control methods women also had children at a much younger age.
lol, yeah, but no. I can't see it happening.

Even the idea of seeing a 15 year old Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver does nothing for me outside of a cameo. :(

[jmc247]

lol, yeah, but no. I can't see it happening.


I could given Havok has been well recieved by critics and given Lorna was a creation of the late 60s in every way.

[Quetzal]

I would guess Sinister or maybe even Sunfire?

[Colossal Spoons]

Sinister please!

[ShaZam612]

I could 100% see them going in the Cable root but basing him more so on Nate Grey. Mix the two characters. I think he would fit well.

[Rac]

What about... LILANDRA ?
http://www.comicsblog.fr/images/news/crop2_war-of-kings-lilandra1.jpg

They are afraid to go cosmic with the movieverse.

Shame.