Have you seen X-Men: First Class? Post here!

[J.Howlett]

As an aside, how cute was that moment with Hank in the lab and Raven comes over and sits in his lap?

That got a great reaction in my audience last night.

[X-Maniac]

Yeah like why Az didn't just teleport himself or anyone else off the island when all of the nukes were coming at them. He either had a lot of faith in someone he knows nothing about or maybe he just spaced out and was ready to die so he just stood there like a stoned idiot:awesome:

For storytelling purposes we had to see Shaw's henchmen choose to side with Magneto, and then get bamfed away. Magneto has assembled his first Brotherhood, that's what we needed to see.

I think that's all we need to bear in mind there. All this daft 'Why didn't he/she..' is irrelevant; it's the greater picture of the storytelling that matters.

[ALP]

Jackman's cameo had everyone in my theater howling.

[craigdbfan]

@J. Howlett Yeah that was great.

My coworkers and I just yelled out a "Woooooooo!" like those audio tracks in a sitcom.

Really cute scene indeed.

[tedw]

I'm interpreting the actions and dialogue shown on screen, and quite happy in my interpretation. To me it seemed the obvious interpretation. I'm happy that I'm happy with my answer.

Many things in many films could be spelled out more. But I saw this scene as indicating she was confident of Shaw's victory and happy to 'wait it out' while the nuclear armageddon happened. Until someone like Vaughn offers the 'official' explanation, I'm happy with mine.

Dude, it's great if you're happy with what you took away from the film... but you seem annoyed that others didn't come away with the same interpretation and are suggesting there's a plothole. So long as you're happy that you're happy, why does that matter?

[X-Maniac]

Dude, it's great if you're happy with what you took away from the film... but you seem annoyed that others didn't come away with the same interpretation and are suggesting there's a plothole. So long as you're happy that you're happy, why does that matter?

Well, there is a bit of silly nitpicking going on here, don't try to pull the wool over my eyes!

I was sharing my viewpoint, hopefully offering an explanation others might not have considered.

[roach]

For storytelling purposes we had to see Shaw's henchmen choose to side with Magneto, and then get bamfed away. Magneto has assembled his first Brotherhood, that's what we needed to see.

I think that's all we need to bear in mind there. All this daft 'Why didn't he/she..' is irrelevant; it's the greater picture of the storytelling that matters.

its not irrelevant. "The devil is in the details". If things dont make sense on the small details then it carries on to the big picture.

[vindrow]

Just got back from seeing X:FC and I have to say that is was a great film. To me, it was the 2nd best X-Film.....it was just below X-2 but well above X-1, X-3, and Wolverine.

I would be really fine with the idea of this being a reboot for the whole X-Film franchise if they decide to go in that direction.

[redfirebird2008]

Just got back from seeing this and I loved it. Fassbender and McAvoy were awesome. I would put this on equal footing with Superman: The Movie, Batman Begins, and Iron Man as my favorite superhero origin movies. I would also put this on equal footing with X2 as the best X-Men movie. I consider X2 one of the best of the genre, so that is pretty impressive company to be in. To put it bluntly, X-Men: First Class rocks!

[SuperSoldier985]

Saw it for a THIRD time this morning (Each time I've seen it at a different theater)

Trailer list on my third viewing was short..
-Warrior
-Real Steel

It never occurred to me until now that the woman that Xavier talks to, with the blue and green eyes, must be William Stryker's future wife/Jason's mother..

[X-Maniac]

its not irrelevant. "The devil is in the details". If things dont make sense on the small details then it carries on to the big picture.

That may happen in your world, but not in mine.

Continuity issue? Pah

The odd 'Why didn't she/she...' Pfft.

I think it's a great movie packed with emotion and drama. Just saw it with a friend - someone who isn't a forum fanatic - who said he couldn't find a single thing wrong with it. Yay!

[tedw]

Well, there is a bit of silly nitpicking going on here, don't try to pull the wool over my eyes!

I was sharing my viewpoint, hopefully offering an explanation others might not have considered.

I'm sorry, I just don't think telling people that there's an obvious answer that they just don't "get" is helpful. The way you're "offering an explanation" to people seems a bit arrogant.

People may not have considered your point of view, but not considering it - or considering it, and then disagreeing with it - does not mean they are stupid.

[X-Maniac]

I'm sorry, I just don't think telling people that there's an obvious answer that they just don't "get" is helpful. The way you're "offering an explanation" to people seems a bit arrogant.

People may not have considered your point of view, but not considering it - or considering it, and then disagreeing with it - does not mean they are stupid.

What's your problem ted? That I liked it and you didn't? That I dare offer my interpretation - which to me seemed obvious - of a debated issue?

Can i ask: What do you ultimately want from the X-Men franchise? A Singer-directed film? A reboot with the original five? For Marvel to reclaim the rights? What do you want to see next?

[roach]

That may happen in your world, but not in mine.

Continuity issue? Pah

The odd 'Why didn't she/she...' Pfft.

I think it's a great movie packed with emotion and drama. Just saw it with a friend - someone who isn't a forum fanatic - who said he couldn't find a single thing wrong with it. Yay!

yeah im only a film student with a heavy slant towards screenwriting and storytelling...yeah I dont know what Im talking about:whatever:

[roach]

What's your problem ted? That I liked it and you didn't? That I dare offer my interpretation - which to me seemed obvious - of a debated issue?

Can i ask: What do you ultimately want from the X-Men franchise? A Singer-directed film? A reboot with the original five? For Marvel to reclaim the rights? What do you want to see next?

i think you have more of an issue that he didnt find it to be cinematic perfection and you did

[X-Maniac]

yeah im only a film student with a heavy slant towards screenwriting and storytelling...yeah I dont know what Im talking about:whatever:

Everyone on here seems to be a 'film student'...

It's a shame you had issues with it, what more can I say?

[roach]

Everyone on here seems to be a 'film student'...

It's a shame you had issues with it, what more can I say?

yeah well im actually going to a school, taking classes, getting grades.

why is it a shame. I enjoyed the movie. However from a story point of view there are some plot holes.

[X-Maniac]

i think you have more of an issue that he didnt find it to be cinematic perfection and you did

i think it's the other way round...

I didn't think it 'cinematic perfection' but it's not far off in my eyes.

What did you want to see instead of what we got? Do you want Fox to hand back the rights to Marvel? To get the original cast back for an X4? To have a reboot with the original comics line-up? For Singer to be directing? For Ratner or Hood to come back? Or just for another version of this film (Fox/Vaughn/Singer/Goldman/same cast) to measure up to your standards more?

[tedw]

What's your problem ted? That I liked it and you didn't? That I dare offer my interpretation - which to me seemed obvious - of a debated issue?

Can i ask: What do you ultimately want from the X-Men franchise? A Singer-directed film? A reboot with the original five? For Marvel to reclaim the rights? What do you want to see next?

No, you're totally misinterpreting. I'm glad you liked it; I wish I had, but I didn't. Any problem you percieve comes from the fact that as soon as I posted to say I didn't think it was amazing, you dismissed my opinions as a pedantic tirade, and you seem to be taking it personally when others raise any kind of issue. Does it matter whether somebody is a "forum fanatic" or not? Does that make their opinion less relevant - and if so, why? I saw it with somebody who doesn't even know that this website exists, and she thought it was ****. So what?

I wanted this film to make me feel like the first two films made me feel - hungry for the next. I haven't been on these forums in ages, so I had no preconcieved notions going into this movie other than the fact that I'd seen the trailer and thought that it actually kicked all kinds of ass. And the film I saw didn't deliver what I'd hoped, unfortunately.

Obviously, there are people who didn't care for the first two movies, but I think what they delivered made this genre viable after the 90s' Batman movies made superhero movies seem like a joke. I think X1 and X2 set a pretty high bar, and I can only hope for future films to continue to live up to that standard. XMFC didn't entirely achieve that for me, and I wanted to come here to discuss this with other fans and get their opinions. I did not come here just to get dumped on by someone because my post was too long.

Funnily enough, my reaction to X3 was immediate, and intense, dislike. Mostly because X3 felt, to me, like potential squandered. And XMFC felt the same. And you know what? X3 doesn't bother me so much now, and perhaps the same will happen with XMFC. I'd like the opportunity to grow to find more of it enjoyable, but there are still things I think could have been done better, and from the posts around here some of the questions I have are questions that other posters have as well. Your posts, towards me in particular, seem to suggest that these questions ought just to be dismissed as fanatic, or negative, or nitpicking, and I'm afraid I just don't see why.

[X-Maniac]

No, you're totally misinterpreting. I'm glad you liked it; I wish I had, but I didn't. Any problem you percieve comes from the fact that as soon as I posted to say I didn't think it was amazing, you dismissed my opinions as a pedantic tirade, and you seem to be taking it personally when others raise any kind of issue. Does it matter whether somebody is a "forum fanatic" or not? Does that make their opinion less relevant - and if so, why? I saw it with somebody who doesn't even know that this website exists, and she thought it was ****. So what?

I wanted this film to make me feel like the first two films made me feel - hungry for the next. I haven't been on these forums in ages, so I had no preconcieved notions going into this movie other than the fact that I'd seen the trailer and thought that it actually kicked all kinds of ass. And the film I saw didn't deliver what I'd hoped, unfortunately.

Obviously, there are people who didn't care for the first two movies, but I think what they delivered made this genre viable after the 90s' Batman movies made superhero movies seem like a joke. I think X1 and X2 set a pretty high bar, and I can only hope for future films to continue to live up to that standard. XMFC didn't entirely achieve that for me, and I wanted to come here to discuss this with other fans and get their opinions. I did not come here just to get dumped on by someone because my post was too long.

Funnily enough, my reaction to X3 was immediate, and intense, dislike. Mostly because X3 felt, to me, like potential squandered. And XMFC felt the same. And you know what? X3 doesn't bother me so much now, and perhaps the same will happen with XMFC. I'd like the opportunity to grow to find more of it enjoyable, but there are still things I think could have been done better, and from the posts around here some of the questions I have are questions that other posters have as well. Your posts, towards me in particular, seem to suggest that these questions ought just to be dismissed as fanatic, or negative, or nitpicking, and I'm afraid I just don't see why.

Well, you raised such a huge list of things you regarded as minor or major issues, it looked an impossible task to even begin to address or discuss. So I decided not to bother. I simply didn't have the time or energy (or want to waste the time or energy) to begin debating everything you raised.

If someone is a forum fanatic or a nitpicker, they are never going to be satisfied. It's pointless. They will never accept any answers, interpretations or explanations. I've been down that road before, on here, with others.

I'm not suggesting you are a forum fanatic or nitpicker, but you are clearly fairly obsessional about the X-Men movies, and your dislike of the film was so detailed and so wide-ranging that it seemed pointless to try and debate it, to be honest. I refuse to get drawn into that endless merry-go-round, it wouldn't get us anywhere. Hours, days, weeks would be wasted and at the end of it, I'd still like the film and you'd still hate it.

[tedw]

If someone is a forum fanatic or a nitpicker, they are never going to be satisfied. It's pointless. They will never accept any answers, interpretations or explanations. I've been down that road before, on here, with others.

I don't agree with this. They may never be happy with something that made them unhappy, but that does not mean they will never be happy carte blanche. It seems like you're suggesting that they have a personality that does not merit any attention because all they do is fuss and whine.

I'm not suggesting you are a forum fanatic or nitpicker, but you are clearly fairly obsessional about the X-Men movies, and your dislike of the film was so detailed and so wide-ranging that it seemed pointless to try and debate it, to be honest. I refuse to get drawn into that endless merry-go-round, it wouldn't get us anywhere. Hours, days, weeks would be wasted and at the end of it, I'd still like the film and you'd still hate it.

I'm interested to know what makes me obsessed any more than you. We're both here talking about the films, are we not? If I'd listed positives to the same length as I did negatives, would that make me "obsessional", or just satisfied?

I have never asked for you to debate. You still haven't answered why it seems to bother you that people may have questions or profess a negative opinion. I don't understand why you seem annoyed that somebody suggests this film may contain plotholes; why are you expending any energy trying to convince anyone if you think it's a waste of time to pursue this "merry-go-round"? Why don't you just ignore the people who raise these questions and let them debate it amongst themselves, or with people who do want to take the time to do so?

I'm not suggesting you can't put forth an opinion, or state that you liked the film, or even try to defend it. But your posts compare some of us to eight-year-olds, and suggest that some of us are inevitably more stupid than you. By all means, offer your explanations - just don't put people down when you do so.

[X-Maniac]

I don't agree with this. They may never be happy with something that made them unhappy, but that does not mean they will never be happy carte blanche. It seems like you're suggesting that they have a personality that does not merit any attention because all they do is fuss and whine.

You seem absolutely desperate to debate this! I'm saying they will never be happy with the thing that made them unhappy, not with life in general.



I'm interested to know what makes me obsessed any more than you. We're both here talking about the films, are we not? If I'd listed positives to the same length as I did negatives, would that make me "obsessional", or just satisfied?

I have never asked for you to debate. You still haven't answered why it seems to bother you that people may have questions or profess a negative opinion. I don't understand why you seem annoyed that somebody suggests this film may contain plotholes; why are you expending any energy trying to convince anyone if you think it's a waste of time to pursue this "merry-go-round"? Why don't you just ignore the people who raise these questions and let them debate it amongst themselves, or with people who do want to take the time to do so?

I'm not suggesting you can't put forth an opinion, or state that you liked the film, or even try to defend it. But your posts compare some of us to eight-year-olds, and suggest that some of us are inevitably more stupid than you. By all means, offer your explanations - just don't put people down when you do so.

Well, i liked the film but haven't made huge lists of stuff i liked. I am fairly geeky about X-Men and superheroes, but I try to draw back from too much obsessing, because I don't have the time or energy! Hours can be wasted on forums like this, and I'm in danger of that now, so i am going after this, because I need my sleep! The duvet is calling...

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Awww... The good ol' X Forums =)

[roach]

Awww... The good ol' X Forums =)

could be worst...could be the bat forums

but I remember the good old Morrison vs Claremont debates

[Silvermoth]

Not since X-men 2 has my mouth simply been held open the entire time. I loved it! Best blockbuster of the year I think, way better than Thor!

The acting was superb. Magneto's raw anger and vulnerability sent chills down my spine. Xavier's journey from loveable playboy to the wise teacher we know him as today was authentic and relatable. The X-kids were superb particularly Lawrence as Mystique and I'm glad Matthew Vaughn did not shy away from the time or the heavier themes such as the holocaust. It's a thinking man (and woman's) blockbuster.

Rose Byrne is lovely as the token human, Moira McTaggert and the action is intense. At the end of the movie I even almost cried (I was with my friends so I couldn't really). The X-men cameos were awesome, I loved the little nods which didn't need that slap in the face effect Marvel does with the Avengers. They were subtle and awesome.

I wonder where all the people who panicked because they misinterpreted Matthew Vaughn's comment that his movie was similar to Twilight are?

10/10 for me, I want more, more, MORE!

[JNX]

Just got back. Loved it!! Definitely 10/10!!

I, too, want more. I want to see young Scott, Jean, and Storm. And I want them to start planting the seeds of the Phoenix storyline ( done right this time ).

[JNX]

Yeah like why Az didn't just teleport himself or anyone else off the island when all of the nukes were coming at them. He either had a lot of faith in someone he knows nothing about or maybe he just spaced out and was ready to die so he just stood there like a stoned idiot:awesome:

Az: "Alright everyone, let's all form a circle and hold hands." :awesome:

[Caped Crusader]

Loved every second of it, for me this was my favorite Marvel film.

[JustABill]

Loved it. How I'd rank the movies now:

1. X2
2. First Class
3. X-Men
4. Wolverine
5. The Last Stand.

[ClarkLuther55]

Excellent movie. This is easily better than the The Last Stand and Wolverine. I don't know if it's better than the first two movies, which I'll have to rewatch (been a long time, and I saw them with extremely high expectations). But I definitely had the most FUN watching this particular X-Men movie. The script was terrific and fast paced, and I didn't get bored for a second. Even though some of the kids didn't get that many lines or scenes to themselves, I liked all of them and the performances of the actors. The idea to mix superheroes with "James Bond" was a great one.

:up::up:
Two thumbs way up. 9/10.

[webhead9707]

Aaaamaaazing.

[Primal Slayer]

Just saw it and I loved it even my friends loved it who arent big on comics. Sure there were little things here and there I would change but still a great movie.

[SuperSoldier985]

The first time I watched it, I wanted to give it a 7.5

I saw it a second time, I took it up to a 8.5

I saw it a THIRD time, and I think it'll stay at a 8.5/10. I REALLY want to give it a 9/10 though.

[RetroNaz]

Loved it. How I'd rank the movies now:

1. X2
2. First Class
3. X-Men
4. Wolverine
5. The Last Stand.

Spot on ranking IMO. I feel the exact same way.

[X Knight]

just saw it a few hours ago.

It was AWESOME!! Loved every minute of it.

Definitely a 10/10 and better than the previous X movies ( even X2 ). Indeed, I would have to say it's one of the best CB/Superhero movies I've seen. I rank it right up there with TDK and Spider-man 2.

oh.......and I must say.........Magneto was an absolute bad*** and for me, the highlight of the film.

Surprisingly, Mystique was a close 2nd highlight!

[RachelDawes]

I could imagine they could easily have shown Magneto' silhouette (with helmet) as they broke into Frost's cell, and Frost say something like "Sebastian, what took you so long... And then see it's Magneto

Would explain she was waiting for him. Pity we didn't get something to explain it. Personally, I thought she made it clear she could escape anytime, which should have got the CIA guys seriously worried.

Regarding Cerebro, I can easily see guilt for what happened to Xavier make Magneto help him (and Beast, probably) built the 2nd and current Cerebro. Of course, guilt does wear off eventually....

Perhaps she couldn't. Maybe she didn't have the confidence that she could telepathically the control the minds of every guard in the prison so she could escape.

Ok, how are they supposed to know where she is so Azazel can come get her? Magneto knew because he helped apprehend her.

Shaw's been able to get two different governments to put missiles in politically sensitive areas. I'm sure he could get someone to tell him Emma's location.

I thought it was pretty evident in the scene where she had to get ice for his drink that he didnt care about her...and it seemed like she understood it in that scene...so why would she expect him to come and get her.

He needs her telepathic abilities, if nothing else.

That's actually a good point.

Magneto did have to live up to his little monologue but that is putting a lot of faith on someone you don't really know.

Then again he did kill Shaw and maybe that was enough proof? Or they all froze because seeing an onslaught of missiles is sort of shocking.

That's what I would assume. That, or he was still a little out of it from that beating Beast gave him.

[craigdbfan]

Not since X-men 2 has my mouth simply been held open the entire time. I loved it! Best blockbuster of the year I think, way better than Thor!

The acting was superb. Magneto's raw anger and vulnerability sent chills down my spine. Xavier's journey from loveable playboy to the wise teacher we know him as today was authentic and relatable. The X-kids were superb particularly Lawrence as Mystique and I'm glad Matthew Vaughn did not shy away from the time or the heavier themes such as the holocaust. It's a thinking man (and woman's) blockbuster.

Rose Byrne is lovely as the token human, Moira McTaggert and the action is intense. At the end of the movie I even almost cried (I was with my friends so I couldn't really). The X-men cameos were awesome, I loved the little nods which didn't need that slap in the face effect Marvel does with the Avengers. They were subtle and awesome.

I wonder where all the people who panicked because they misinterpreted Matthew Vaughn's comment that his movie was similar to Twilight are?

10/10 for me, I want more, more, MORE!

My feelings exactly. Well said. :cool:

just saw it a few hours ago.

It was AWESOME!! Loved every minute of it.

Definitely a 10/10 and better than the previous X movies ( even X2 ). Indeed, I would have to say it's one of the best CB/Superhero movies I've seen. I rank it right up there with TDK and Spider-man 2.

oh.......and I must say.........Magneto was an absolute bad*** and for me, the highlight of the film.

Surprisingly, Mystique was a close 2nd highlight!

Couldn't agree more!

[ALP]

Damn I gave this movie a 10/10. That is very rare for me to do.

[craigdbfan]

That's what I would assume. That, or he was still a little out of it from that beating Beast gave him.

That's what I'm thinking as well. Beast did give him a solid ass kicking .

[BMM]

If I could teleport thousands of miles in the blink of an eye, I'm not sure I'd leave immediately. There's no need to.

[thorstone]

Bacon and Fassbender were so awesome as enemies (and I never imagined the leader of the Hellfire Club as being so powerful (or the power looking so cool)).

I want a prequel now-- all about Erik killing Nazis and speaking foreign languages. The bar scene early in the movie was gold.
I'm not interested in the next film being more of a super hero film-- I want more of the subtle secret agent film.

[Marx]

I saw it last night. It's a great movie. I give it a solid '9'. :up:

I really enjoyed the dynamic between Mystique and Magneto. I also thought the paralyzing scene was pretty intense.

[Downhere]

Stryker's son as in Jason or as in William Stryker?

Xavier specifically addresses First Class Stryker's son as William, therefore, in line with the first two films. The first class Stryker is William Stryker's father.

[X Knight]

wait.............


Stryker is in First Class??

[Downhere]

wait.............


Stryker is in First Class??


William Stryker's (Bryan Cox in X2) father is in First Class.

[X Knight]

I also want to add that McAvoy was fantastic as Prof X. It definitely was another side to the character that we haven't seen before. But, I believe the events in this movie are pivotal in shaping his demeanor as older Prof X.

And, for me, the other surprise was just how good Bacon was as the villain!

[craigdbfan]

wait.............


Stryker is in First Class??


William Stryker's father is in this. Prof.X mentions him during the CIA meeting when he reads Papa Strykers mind and he happens to be thinking of his son.

[X Knight]

William Stryker's (Bryan Cox in X2) father is in First Class.

ah....got it. thanks.

[X Knight]

William Stryker's father is in this. Prof.X mentions him during the CIA meeting when he reads Papa Strykers mind and he happens to be thinking of his son.

and thank you, too. I didn't catch that.

[SuperSoldier985]

ah....got it. thanks.
Did you also think that the woman with the blue and green eyes as Jason Stryker's future mother?

[X Knight]

Did you also think that the woman with the blue and green eyes as Jason Stryker's future mother?

no.

[flickchick85]

I saw it early this afternoon with friends, and I loved it so much I took my mom to see it this evening. Everyone I saw it with today loved it. Fassbender and McAvoy were perfection.

Gotta say though, a couple of scenes in the first half felt a little clunky/cheesy to me (mostly the ones featuring child actors, which Vaughn has directed extremely well in the past, so I thought that was odd), but the entire 2nd half MORE than made up for them, imo.

I'd give it an 8/10. That's the same grade I'd give X2, but having re-watched all the X-Men movies this week, I think I enjoyed First Class just a tad bit more than X2. So we'll say 8.2/10. ;)

Guess that means I have a new favorite X-Men flick.

[EML420]

I saw the film earlier today I was blown away Kevin Bacon was great and Micheal F was to I loved the movie I knew Vaughn would do good. I really dont get how people doubted him after seeing Kick Ass or was it because fox? But Bacon the guy has been famous for like ever lol had to say that.

[Sentinel X]

Does anyone think that woman in the beginning of the film may possibly be Jason's mom? Xavier does say she is a mutant (but I'm not sure if he was only referring to her eye colors).Not to mention she is probably the same age (young adult) as william stryker is in this movie. Either way it was a clear nod to X2

[Deaths Head II]

That's actually a pretty interesting theory. I would say it's a coincidence but they did put Stryker's dad in here.

[Rhiannon]

I don't know much about X-Men; I watched the previous films and have seen a few episodes of the 90's cartoon. I went into this movie with fairly low expectations.

I thought it was wonderful, and my husband and our friend (both more into X-Men than myself) enjoyed it as well. The actors playing Xavier and Erik were charismatic and engaging, the story involved more emotion and depth than I expected, and the action and team of young mutants were all-around entertaining. Such a pleasant surprise! I hope it continues to do well at the box office and collect more positive reviews from hardcore fans and casual viewers alike.

[SuperSoldier985]

Does anyone think that woman in the beginning of the film may possibly be Jason's mom? Xavier does say she is a mutant (but I'm not sure if he was only referring to her eye colors).Not to mention she is probably the same age (young adult) as william stryker is in this movie. Either way it was a clear nod to X2

That's actually a pretty interesting theory. I would say it's a coincidence but they did put Stryker's dad in here.
lol, I've mentioned this a couple times already, literally, like six posts up.. :p

The age and the timeline is just too perfect. I'm sure the filmmakers knew we'd be clever enough to make the connection.

[Genosha]

Got back from my 2nd viewing. Wayyyyyyy better than my first viewing (I really need to stop going to midnight shows. I'm always too tired and it makes me become indifferent to the movie I'm watching. I could probably watch a classic like Maltese Falcon at midnight and suddenly claim there is problems with it at this point. I'm so bad)

Anyway, film was great. Everybody was fantastic. And Jones' performance as Frost, I thought, was really good. I thought she encapsulated the character quite well. If there is another prequel after this I feel she could really get a great chance to play with some of the conflict the character has developed in the comics this last decade. I'm not entirely convinced she will join the Brotherhood at the end.

Still need to see a few more times before I place it rating wise within the series. I'm actually a huge fan of all the movies so far, even Origins and The Last Stand (hopefully, saying something like that isn't too controversial. I'd hate to be seen as too much of a weirdo in the X-Men fan club.)

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I don't think I can any longer rate these movies 1-5, because they *ALL* have things that the other movies don't.

X-Men - I feel this film has the best moments between grown Xavier and Magneto. Their meeting at the Senate hearing is one of the highlight moments of the entire series in my mind. The original opening of the concentration camp set the tone for the movie (and franchise) that it was going to be taken *SERIOUSLY*, which I appreciate. I appreciate the Singer-verse, because it turned the X-Men into more than just a mere comic book, but rather a world, characters, universe, etc... that has some actual depth and heart to it, a message, something to say, and something to be taken seriously. The action elements were definitely the worst of the entire series, but there was so much heart with all the characters.

Magneto and Xavier's scenes together. The scene of Cyclops confiding in the comatose Xavier is one of those moments that just screams "X-MEN" to me, and what the X-Men are about. The developing relationship between Wolverine and Rogue, and the seeds of the love triangle between Logan, Jean Grey, and Cyclops. I think of X-Men as the "heart" movie.

X2 - This is the mix of heart, and action. Brian Cox is incredible as William Stryker, and is the deepest villain in the franchise not named Magneto. He's the kind of villain you LOVE to hate. He's so manipulative, taking advantage of trusting people around him (the President) to act out his rather evil agenda. The action sequences are taken up a notch, or 3. Nightcrawler's White House attack is still incredible. Magneto's prison escape is still one of my favorite all time movie scenes. Magneto resetting Cerebro is visually stunning (even if the rearranging of the tiles is nothing more than cosmetic). And the final sequence with Jean and the rushing flood waters, and the reaction of everyone in the jet, is probably the most "X-Men"-esque moment of the entire franchise. I don't think there is a better executed sequence than this in the entire series. While the climax does begin to drag a bit, it's building up towards this huge sequence that more than makes up for it.

X-Men: The Last Stand - While Singer stepped up the action in X2, he still held back in the action department. This movie goes full force with the X-Men, the Brotherhood, and their mutant abilities. Unfortunately, this is a very divisive movie, killing Cyclops, putting Wolverine into his place, curing Rogue, as well as a few other elements, but to me, this movie just screams "X-Men". Magneto finally gets his war, even though he's really the one that caused it. Magneto, as always, is in incredible form in this film. We are introduced to Beast, who is acted brilliantly by Kelsey Grammar, and he was given great material to work with. The movie is chalk full of great sequences, seeing the Danger Room in action, the psychic duel between Xavier and Phoenix, Magneto breaking Mystique out of prison, Magneto's two speeches, once at the mutant rally to recruit his army, and a second one in the forest as they prepare to go to war, Wolverine's fight at Magneto's camp to try to get Jean back, then the entire climax on Alcatraz, from Magneto moving the Golden Gate Bridge, to the Brotherhood / Morlocks rushing the island, to the X-Men arriving and making their entrance (their arrival to the battle completely reminds me of the opening sequence of the X-Men 90's animated series), we get Iceman icing up, Juggernaut chasing Kitty Pryde is a fun sequence, Beast's fight dialogue is completely right out of the comics, and finally, Wolverine marching up to Phoenix is a beautifully shot sequence. Yea, it should be Cyclops instead of Wolverine, but nothing of this sequence is out of sequence, and I think the entire sequence is just beautiful. If Jean's sacrifice in X2 is the best sequence of the franchise, this is a close #2.

X-Men Origins: Wolverine - I can honestly say, if this movie kept the original mind wipe sequence that's on the DVD, I probably would have 1 complaint about the movie. The alternate mind erase sequence eases the pain that is magic bullets. The first half of the movie I feel is beautiful. Maybe Logan wasn't shown to be enough of an "animal" for the tastes of some, but I found his intro scene with Victor and Thomas Logan, the montage of the wars, and then Logan's time with Team X and the other mutants was rather well done. The first shot of Logan in the Canadian Rockies just screams "Logan" to me. Victor killing off Bradley was well done. I truly enjoyed his relationship with Kayla. William Stryker is again, brilliant, and the deepest villain not named Magneto. The adamantium sequence is underwhelming, but I truly enjoyed his time with the Hudsons as well. It got really cheesy with Logan fighting against Blob, but I couldn't ask for Gambit's introduction to have been done any better, and if they kept the original mind erase sequence, the entire final act and climax would have been near flawless. Except for Deadpool eye beams. I can get past the arm blades and such, but the eye beams is just too much for me. But otherwise, I think this movie explores one of the most important story arcs in the X-Men world, and for the most part, does it well.

X-Men: First Class - This might be the only X-Men movie that has literally had my jaw on the floor for particular sequences. The opening sequence with young Erik, and Klaus Schmidt for one. I was completely in awe at how that scene played out. The other being the entire Missile Crisis climax. Magneto finally confronting Shaw, Banshee and Havok's display of powers, Magneto controlling the missiles, and Magneto eventually being the cause of Xavier's paralysis. Magneto telling Xavier "I want you by my side", and Xavier replying saying "No we do not want the same thing" truly hit me. If I saw X-Men: The Last Stand was full of great "X-Men"-esque sequences, then X-Men: First Class was full of great 60's "X-Men"-esque sequences. The original trilogy felt like 90's / 2000's comics, while First Class felt like earlier 60's comics. I still nerd out watching Banshee flying around the Caribbean, catching Havok and carrying him while he flies. They pulled off the original X-Men costumes perfectly. While the 60's Bond Movie vibe was overdone in places, and took me out of feeling like I was watching an X-Men movie, and there was some real cheese involved with the kids hanging around the CIA complex, coming up with their code names, the movie overall worked great. The Mystique and Xavier relationship was explored well, but I felt it was out of place. Well done. Out of place. The characters that were allowed to be developed were developed beautifully (Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Beast, Sebastian Shaw, Emma Frost), but other characters suffered bad from getting zero character exploration (Banshee, Havok, Angel). Beast's transformation is another one of those amazing sequences that screams "This is X-Men" to me.

I'm getting to a point that I literally cannot rank an order for these movies anymore. As far as I'm concerned, we've gotten 5 great X-Men movies. While the franchise isn't without it's faults - some much more severe than others - I feel that my favorite fictional universe has been amazingly brought to life on the big screen. I think it's getting *REAL* close to over-extending itself, but it hasn't reached that point quite yet.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Got back from my 2nd viewing. Wayyyyyyy better than my first viewing (I really need to stop going to midnight shows. I'm always too tired and it makes me become indifferent to the movie I'm watching. I could probably watch a classic like Maltese Falcon at midnight and suddenly claim there is problems with it at this point. I'm so bad)

Anyway, film was great. Everybody was fantastic. And Jones' performance as Frost, I thought, was really good. I thought she encapsulated the character quite well. If there is another prequel after this I feel she could really get a great chance to play with some of the conflict the character has developed in the comics this last decade. I'm not entirely convinced she will join the Brotherhood at the end.

Still need to see a few more times before I place it rating wise within the series. I'm actually a huge fan of all the movies so far, even Origins and The Last Stand (hopefully, saying something like that isn't too controversial. I'd hate to be seen as too much of a weirdo in the X-Men fan club.)

You're not alone. I :hrt::hrt::hrt: X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine and think that many of the things they did are better than anything else in the series.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Did you also think that the woman with the blue and green eyes as Jason Stryker's future mother?

I knew there had to be some kind of connection to Stryker when I first saw her eyes.

[Sentinel X]

lol, I've mentioned this a couple times already, literally, like six posts up.. :p

The age and the timeline is just too perfect. I'm sure the filmmakers knew we'd be clever enough to make the connection.whoops...I kind of just posted without reading the other posts :oldrazz:

But I agree, the timing is just perfect and the fact that they gave her heterochromia while acknowledging the X-men 2 makes it really seem like she is meant to be.

[CaptainAwesome]

Does anyone think that woman in the beginning of the film may possibly be Jason's mom? Xavier does say she is a mutant (but I'm not sure if he was only referring to her eye colors).Not to mention she is probably the same age (young adult) as william stryker is in this movie. Either way it was a clear nod to X2

That's actually a pretty interesting theory. I would say it's a coincidence but they did put Stryker's dad in here.

Did you also think that the woman with the blue and green eyes as Jason Stryker's future mother?

lol, I've mentioned this a couple times already, literally, like six posts up.. :p

The age and the timeline is just too perfect. I'm sure the filmmakers knew we'd be clever enough to make the connection.

It was mentioned in the film that William Stryker was already born. So unless in the less than a week time period between Xavier meeting the girl at the bar and then meeting William Stryker's dad at the briefing the two of them met, married, got pregnant and he mutant ability was to have a baby in one week's time I would say that she is not the mother and he different color eyes were just a way to show that Xavier was constantly talking about mutation. He even mentions that Moira has auburn hair and that it is also a mutation.

I think it is more or less a coincidence. At most it is something to grab the fans' attention like "hey, I've seen eyes like that before". Just my two cents...

[villana81]

Excellent movie. This is easily better than the The Last Stand and Wolverine. I don't know if it's better than the first two movies, which I'll have to rewatch (been a long time, and I saw them with extremely high expectations). But I definitely had the most FUN watching this particular X-Men movie. The script was terrific and fast paced, and I didn't get bored for a second. Even though some of the kids didn't get that many lines or scenes to themselves, I liked all of them and the performances of the actors. The idea to mix superheroes with "James Bond" was a great one.

:up::up:
Two thumbs way up. 9/10.

ITA!

This is my first post on this forum, I just saw the movie and I loved it! I want to go and see it again.
When i saw it I felt like I was watching one of the first two movies which were my favorites.
I got to say one of my favorite things was the friendship between Xavier and Magneto, which I always loved even though we didn't see it on any of the previous movies but there were always little things about them and to finally see the beginning was amazing. I loved how Charles helped him, it was really touching. This movie made me like Magneto even more and mystique also. I don't remember if in any of the first movies it mentions that Mystique and Charles were so close.
I had forgotten what was the beast name, so cool to see how he became like that too.

I give it a 10 :)

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

It was mentioned in the film that William Stryker was already born. So unless in the less than a week time period between Xavier meeting the girl at the bar and then meeting William Stryker's dad at the briefing the two of them met, married, got pregnant and he mutant ability was to have a baby in one week's time I would say that she is not the mother and he different color eyes were just a way to show that Xavier was constantly talking about mutation. He even mentions that Moira has auburn hair and that it is also a mutation.

I think it is more or less a coincidence. At most it is something to grab the fans' attention like "hey, I've seen eyes like that before". Just my two cents...

Jason's mom = William Stryker's wife.

[CaptainAwesome]

Jason's mom = William Stryker's wife.

Jason = already born in this movie

girl in bar with blue green eyes = not jason's future mom

[ALP]

^Only problem I have with that is Striker never mentioned anything about his wife being a mutant. Why would he marry a mutant? And don't tell me she just never told him. Striker spent his entire life hating mutants and trying to destroy them, no way one would marry him. I just watched X2 and Striker never says anything bad about his wife who killed herself because Jason messed with their mind.

[craigdbfan]

Jason = already born in this movie

girl in bar with blue green eyes = not jason's future mom

Wrong.

William Stryker Senior was thinking of William Stryker Jr. Jason isn't born yet but William Stryker does exist.

Get it?

While that woman may or may not be Juniors wife in the future your understanding of who is or isn't born yet is way off.

[CaptainAwesome]

Jason's mom = William Stryker's wife.

Jason = already born in this movie

girl in bar with blue green eyes = not jason's future mom

My bad, JASON, not William. It's late, I was reading that wrong the whole time. I kept mixing Jason and William up. Sorry about the confusion.

[SuperSoldier985]

It's all good. :p

[Heretic]

You guys are right. As we all know, there is only one woman on earth that has two different colored eyes...it MUST be her. It's not like they wanted to have a scene that showed Charles interested in women other than Raven because Raven's appearance never became an issue for her in the film, and it's not like they wanted to show a dumbed down concept of genetics to portray him as an expert in the field.

Now, back to reality...

[craigdbfan]

No one said it was definitely her except for you sarcastically.

[Son of Coul]

Very pleasantly surprising. This movie was ****ing awesome.

9/10

[kedrell]

Upon subsequent viewings, one aspect is really getting on my nerves. I'll point out a scene that I think is a symptom of it and then elaborate from there.

In one scene we get the mutant kids all hanging out in the rec room when a couple of trained, professional CIA agents suddenly feel the need to come by and gawk at them like they're monkey's in a cage at the zoo. Then a shot while later when Shaw attacks, just before he enters the room we hear other CIA people tell him to just take the mutants and leave the 'normal people' alone. Yeah, real subtle.

And the film is rife with this kind of thing. To be fair, the other X-Men movies are as well. It's like a sledge hammer to the ****ing forehead. Normal people are bigoted. Yeah, I get it.

Singer's films have always lacked subtlety with this issue and it makes the bigoted humans look like racist caricatures rather than something more real. I just wish that Vaughn would have broken away from that and given us the same gist but without the sledge hammer.

Ok, rant over.

[SuperSoldier985]

You guys are right. As we all know, there is only one woman on earth that has two different colored eyes...it MUST be her. It's not like they wanted to have a scene that showed Charles interested in women other than Raven because Raven's appearance never became an issue for her in the film, and it's not like they wanted to show a dumbed down concept of genetics to portray him as an expert in the field.

Now, back to reality...
Oh lawd :whatever:

[CaptainAwesome]

The thing I liked about this movie was that they actually used all of the characters. Instead of being like "oh man, see that sort Asian looking girl in the back row of that shot with the yellow jacket on? I think that's supposed to be Jubilee, awesome!" it was more like "Sweet, that's Banshee, I know this because he looks like Banshee, and his costume is like Banshee's, and his powers are like Banshee's, and he's USING his powers, and they are calling him Banshee..."

[Heretic]

Plus, they didn't include Quill, never call him any name at all, and then credit him as Omega Kid.

[Guerrilla]

Just got finished seeing it. Some things were cool about this movie. There was a lot more that was terrible. I want to give a full breakdown but I personally am praying that the avengers is nothing like this movie in terms of a team superhero movie. I felt as if a bunch of the characters were needlessly stuck into a story that was too concerned with giving nods to the other xmen films then with truely taking it to the next level. I am however glad to hear that so many people enjoyed it. I just hated beast's look. Havok's uselessness. Emma Frost is a cool character but came off cheap and corny to me. Shaw and magneto are what made me be able to sit all of the way through it. The scene with magneto and the knife is awesome. I hope at some point someone will nail the great universe of the xmen with all of the true epicness it holds, but this one did not do it. Also, I can't believe it has a better rating than Thor on the tomatometer. Bummed.

[ciscostudent561]

You're ignoring human nature then bro sorry.

[kedrell]

I seriously doubt the Avengers will be like this. Each character has already had a film or two to flesh them out. That was the whole point of solo films first from the get go.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

You guys are right. As we all know, there is only one woman on earth that has two different colored eyes...it MUST be her. It's not like they wanted to have a scene that showed Charles interested in women other than Raven because Raven's appearance never became an issue for her in the film, and it's not like they wanted to show a dumbed down concept of genetics to portray him as an expert in the field.

Now, back to reality...

WOOW. Really?

So it's so far out of line to associate a person, in a fictional universe, who bears a trademark feature used in that fictional universe, with said character who shares that trademark feature?

Well then, I guess when I see a bald man in a wheel chair on an X-Men poster, who's to say it's Charles Xavier? Because really, there's only ONE bald man in a wheel chair in the world.

Forget about the fact that they might want to show all those things you listed WHILE tossing in a little wink wink / nod nod connection to a character already in the fictional universe to bring things together.

I guess the girl who screams in the mansion in X2 isn't Siryn either, because hey, who's to say she's the only mutant in the world with those powers?

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

^Only problem I have with that is Striker never mentioned anything about his wife being a mutant. Why would he marry a mutant? And don't tell me she just never told him. Striker spent his entire life hating mutants and trying to destroy them, no way one would marry him. I just watched X2 and Striker never says anything bad about his wife who killed herself because Jason messed with their mind.

What if she just didn't know?

I mean, not all mutations give awesome super powers. Some mutations are just appearances. I'm pretty sure that 2 different color eyes wouldn't really set off any red flags in her mind, especially since she wasn't shooting fireballs out of her ass when she blinked.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

The thing I liked about this movie was that they actually used all of the characters. Instead of being like "oh man, see that sort Asian looking girl in the back row of that shot with the yellow jacket on? I think that's supposed to be Jubilee, awesome!" it was more like "Sweet, that's Banshee, I know this because he looks like Banshee, and his costume is like Banshee's, and his powers are like Banshee's, and he's USING his powers, and they are calling him Banshee..."

Did you really just compare one of the main characters of the movie, to an easter egg cameo from another?

Well, I guess it makes sense. Afterall, Banshee did get just about as much development in X-Men: First Class as Jubilee did in her cameos. :hehe:

[craigdbfan]

WOOW. Really?

So it's so far out of line to associate a person, in a fictional universe, who bears a trademark feature used in that fictional universe, with said character who shares that trademark feature?

Well then, I guess when I see a bald man in a wheel chair on an X-Men poster, who's to say it's Charles Xavier? Because really, there's only ONE bald man in a wheel chair in the world.

Forget about the fact that they might want to show all those things you listed WHILE tossing in a little wink wink / nod nod connection to a character already in the fictional universe to bring things together.

I guess the girl who screams in the mansion in X2 isn't Siryn either, because hey, who's to say she's the only mutant in the world with those powers?

Who's to say that abrasive fellow Charles and Erik meet in a bar is Logan?

It could just be some random guy just drinking and smoking a cigar. :O

[CaptainAwesome]

Did you really just compare one of the main characters of the movie, to an easter egg cameo from another?

Well, I guess it makes sense. Afterall, Banshee did get just about as much development in X-Men: First Class as Jubilee did in her cameos. :hehe:

Ok...

How about Colossus from X-men 3? His one and only line in the entire movie was "Yeah, I think she took off". I'm not entirely sure anyone even called him Colossus and other than throwing Wolverine twice I think the only other thing he used his power for was landing and punching two people.

My point was it was nice that each of the characters played a role, as opposed to some of the later films where it felt like a mish mash of characters thrown together for no reason.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Ok...

How about Colossus from X-men 3? His one and only line in the entire movie was "Yeah, I think she took off". I'm not entirely sure anyone even called him Colossus and other than throwing Wolverine twice I think the only other thing he used his power for was landing and punching two people.

My point was it was nice that each of the characters played a role, as opposed to some of the later films where it felt like a mish mash of characters thrown together for no reason.

Banshee and Havok had nicer displays of their power that Colossus did (and yes, just to nitpick, Wolverine did call him Colossus at the end of the Danger Room sequence), and had a couple more lines, but they certainly didn't have any more character development than Colossus did. Which is sad, because they are what the damn movie is named after "X-Men: First Class"

[kedrell]

Colossus's treatment in these movies has long been a sticking point for me since he's always been my favorite X-Men character. At least they didn't use him here just for some token reference.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Colossus's treatment in these movies has long been a sticking point for me since he's always been my favorite X-Men character. At least they didn't use him here just for some token reference.

Colossus is among my favorites as well, and I also certainly would have liked to have seen more from him than what we got.

[tedw]

I think the Stryker connection fits the timeline only if William is his adult son - I get the impression people here think he was just a kid. Or am I mistaken?

Frankly, they probably could have just made the agent William Stryker and made his son Jason, given in all likelihood Jason was already born by 1962.

[BMM]

I don't think Jason is already born, during the events of First Class. It's possible, but I don't think he's meant to be that old. I think he just looks like crap due to his father's experimentation on him.

[Oberon sexton]

Now my history is a little hazy in this timeframe but was the Vietnam war going on at this time? if so then Stryker was thinking about his son "piloting black-ops missions in the jungles of North Vietnam"

[craigdbfan]

You're right.

Nice connecting there. :up:

Not sure if it was intentional but it definitely works.

[spider-neil]

If shaw absorbs kinetic energy, should that coin have passed through his head?

[roach]

Gulf of Tonkin happened in 1964
Cuban Missile crisis happened in 1962

[roach]

If shaw absorbs kinetic energy, should that coin have passed through his head?

two possibilities:
1)Xavier shut his power off
2) His power is is activated by him and isnt always on

[craigdbfan]

Xavier just needed for Shaw to be still and without the helmet. Every other instance before Shaw had gotten lucky and once he learns of Xaviers existence and when he found out he was near a pure look panic would appear on his face.

His reasoning for being so demeaning with Emma is probably also due to her telepathic abilities, he fears them so he constantly attacks her self esteem by lowering her own self worth (e.g Sub scene with him telling her to fetch him a drink like a dog).

It'd be interesting if Frost starts realizing this and does eventually leaves to work on her own affairs (it'd be cool if they do a take on the whole school in Genosha aspect) and eventually in the third film helps the X-Men.

I actually really liked January Jones performance and would love for them to give her an expanded presence in the next films.

[tedw]

I don't think Jason is already born, during the events of First Class. It's possible, but I don't think he's meant to be that old. I think he just looks like crap due to his father's experimentation on him.

Just going on his appearance and the date of birth for the actor himself (1953). And if he's an early student of Xavier's, then he's presumably in his 30s/40s, on a par with the other students like Jean and Beast.

The Vietnam conflict has a longer history, long enough that without knowing exactly what Stryker did there we can't rule out that he was there at that time.

Not a nitpick (since I've been accused of this) - just pointing out that in all likelihood, Stryker was an adult as of this film, not a little boy. Heck, I'm an adult and my parents think about me, so I'm not suggesting otherwise.

Does Shaw have much to fear from Emma if he has access to the helmet? He didn't strike me as the type of guy who was much afraid of anyone.

[Ajendo]

This film was amazing!

Firstly, jenny lawrence and zoe kravitz are freakishly hot!

Fassbender as Erik/Magneto was badass in every possible way. I swear, this film was his audition tape to be the next James Bond.

The film as a whole was just handled remarkably well. Everyone got to shine. It was smart funny, sad, charming and delivered everywhere where it counted. This film is by far for me the best x-film in the series. Awesome cameos by Jackman and Romjin.

The funny thing is, this film wasn't even a priority for me and I thought it would be overshadowed heavily by the likes of Thor and Cap but so far, this film is significantly superior to Thor and I feel this film has actually raised the bar. I think this movie is actually more enjoyable and better than TDK to be honest and Erik/Magneto is just electrifying to watch. The Bond like scenes with the bar of gold, when he sneaks onto Shaw's boat, the extremely badass scene when he goes to argentina. This film is fire and is worth multiple viewings.

The relationship with all the characters was surprisingly handled really well. Charles and Erik was just brilliant and of course more noticeably Charles and Raven and Erik and Raven. Kudos to McAvoy as well, he did an awesome job to bring a more relatable humanity to Xavier that shows him as a bit of an ordinary lad and at the same time, him rising to the mantle of a person of influence and responsibility.

This movie really is a summer blockbuster and a proud achievement for the genre.

10/10

[Sentinel X]

You guys are right. As we all know, there is only one woman on earth that has two different colored eyes...it MUST be her. It's not like they wanted to have a scene that showed Charles interested in women other than Raven because Raven's appearance never became an issue for her in the film, and it's not like they wanted to show a dumbed down concept of genetics to portray him as an expert in the field.

Now, back to reality... :whatever:...its just fan specualtion and secondly it is not that far fetched. Its something I can see the writers and director doing for the fans of the first two films

Who's to say that abrasive fellow Charles and Erik meet in a bar is Logan?

It could just be some random guy just drinking and smoking a cigar. :O lol....And that young black girl with white hair...no way that was storm...do you know how many black girls with white hair they have? I'm sure there is SUCH a large number of black girls with white hair that putting one in an X-film and questioning if it is possibly storm is SUCH a ludicrous idea. Wow...we sure are silly!

[spider-neil]

I just assumed the black girl with white hair was storm's mum, no way was that some random black girl with white hair.

[jignat]

Just saw it last night.

I cant recall having such a big smile on my face in an X-film since X2.
Overall Id have to give it a 8.5 and say its the second best in the franchise.

McAvoy was the heart and Fassbender the balls lol..


My fav scene was actually the death of shaw. Loved how it was tied to the death of Eriks mom and how Erik floated him out like a crucified Jesus.

The paralysis scene was heart wrenching too. I had this vibe from the 86 Transformers movie

--I was unconvinced by Angel switching to the Hellfire club . It seemed random.
Also, Moira felt underused esp in the middle of the film. I wish the romantic relationship with charles had been in there. also I would have though that if that was in the film, she could have hinted towards either staying with Charles to run the school or become a scientist.

--In terms of action scenes, the Argentina scenes, Azazel at CIA,and Banshee/Angel dogfight were great. Xaviers zoom in effect when using his powers and Erik owning with barb wire, pulling the guys tooth were really cool.

[spider-neil]

havok's 'hola hoop' dance before firing his blasts, what was 'THAT' all about? ha ha

[Lobo]

I loved it! Equal to X2 which is one of my all time favorite comic films. The cameos and little easter eggs were great. I saw it yesterday and there's about a 90% chance I'll be going to see it again today.

Now for the X-perts, was that Angel character made upfor the movie or was she based on some other character from the books?

[jignat]

I loved it! Equal to X2 which is one of my all time favorite comic films. The cameos and little easter eggs were great. I saw it yesterday and there's about a 90% chance I'll be going to see it again today.

Now for the X-perts, was that Angel character made upfor the movie or was she based on some other character from the books?

She is based on Angel Salvadore from the comics, who has the same powers as in the movie, though the comic version, didnt have a stripper background.

[Lobo]

Thank you.

[roach]

I just assumed the black girl with white hair was storm's mum, no way was that some random black girl with white hair.

In the comics Storm's mum didnt have white hair

[SuperSoldier985]

havok's 'hola hoop' dance before firing his blasts, what was 'THAT' all about? ha ha
That didn't really bother you, did it?

[ALP]

In the comics Storm's mum didnt have white hair

And Xavier didn't have hair period when he was an adult:oldrazz:

[roach]

And Xavier didn't have hair period when he was an adult:oldrazz:

actually he did...his baldness came about from his continued use of his mutation...though in all my years of reading X-men I have yet to come across when he went bald.

However the biggest mistake in the X-men universe is to have children inherit their powers from their parents. It no longer makes then mutants technically. A mutant child should have powers vastly different from their parents. Much like Magneto's children have speed and luck powers (yes I know Lorna is now considered one of his but that was a retcon by Chuck Austen and the less remembered about his run the better.)

[SuperSoldier985]

Bottom line, it's Storm.

[roach]

Bottom line, it's Storm.

yep

[Deaths Head II]

I don't think they would have given her white hair if they didn't intend for it to be Storm. Same thing for the kid wearing sunglasses.

[ALP]

actually he did...his baldness came about from his continued use of his mutation...though in all my years of reading X-men I have yet to come across when he went bald.

Cool, didn't know that:up:


However the biggest mistake in the X-men universe is to have children inherit their powers from their parents. It no longer makes then mutants technically. A mutant child should have powers vastly different from their parents. Much like Magneto's children have speed and luck powers (yes I know Lorna is now considered one of his but that was a retcon by Chuck Austen and the less remembered about his run the better.)

Are you this is a problem in the films or in the comics?

[roach]

Cool, didn't know that:up:



Are you this is a problem in the films or in the comics?

mostly the comics and I dislike that it looks to carryover to the movies...i prefer it when the child of mutants have powers that are random and not exactly like one parents

[Oberon sexton]

how did you feel about Logan and Victor having similar powers/being brothers in the origins movie?

[Vile]

I gave the film a 6/10.

Enjoyable, but completely rode on the shoulders of Fassbender's Magneto. Some great visuals - it was great to see Mags cut loose.

Of course, deeply flawed...

Beast looked ridiculous, Banshee vanishing for 20 minutes after he found the sub, Emma Frost being useless and...sadly, Magneto's 'costume' reveal looked just HORRIBLE. Everyone in our theater laughed our asses off at what should have been a tad more serious scene.

Still, fun flick and I look forward to more.

[Deaths Head II]

I think it makes more sense to have the powers carry on or be a variation of the parent's abilities. Wouldn't it make more sense if the more useful powers were to carry on to the next generation while the more useless abilities were to die out? Yes, technically the children aren't a mutant if that's the case but it's more of a label anyway for those who have these abilities.

[javon]

OMG I saw the movie last night and I was completely blown away! First off, acting is obviously the most important thing here. We all go to the movies to see conflict, and there was PLENTY of it in this film. McAvoy and Fassbender were just terrific. For McAvoy, when he gets very emotional, it is just heartwrenching. One of my favorite moments is when he taps into Erik's head and literally feels his pain and what he has gone through. I mean, the acting there was great. And for Fassbender, you really see the fury and the rage behind this man's eyes. You could see that he was fighting for something, and thats what made me (as an audience member) wanna continue watching this movie. Not once did I get bored watching this film. The action scenes were on point, and the good thing about it is that it wasn't flooded with them. The director gave a good balance between sentimental and important moments, and action scenes. The scene where Magneto gets revenge on Shaw is just BEAUTIFUL. One of my favorite scenes. BTW, I loved that they showed a young Storm. :)

1. I did have a few head scratching moments though. Angel's affiliation with Shaw was kinda random. I mean, I get that she didn't feel beautiful and what not, but there needed to be something else there. Seemed too rushed.
2. Since when did Mystique become the Master of name creating? LOL I mean, the names came out of no where and I just didn't expect this one girl to have came up with Magneto and Professor X. IDK.
3. At the end, when Charles tell Mystique "go with him, it's what you want" I HATED that! I mean, that completely takes away from the rebellious-ness! It would have been more powerful if she would have just walked over there, instead of Charles basically giving her permission to.

MM, that's about it. I have more but I can't remember right now. This film gets a 9/10 from me. Can't wait until the next one!

[javon]

I gave the film a 6/10.

Enjoyable, but completely rode on the shoulders of Fassbender's Magneto. Some great visuals - it was great to see Mags cut loose.

Of course, deeply flawed...

Beast looked ridiculous, Banshee vanishing for 20 minutes after he found the sub, Emma Frost being useless and...sadly, Magneto's 'costume' reveal looked just HORRIBLE. Everyone in our theater laughed our asses off at what should have been a tad more serious scene.

Still, fun flick and I look forward to more.
Really? I thought the story had a great balance of what both sides wanted. I mean, Erik's views were much more aggressive, but I never once forgot about Charles.

[SuperSoldier985]

Everyone in our theater laughed our asses off at what should have been a tad more serious scene.
That seems like a classic exaggeration to me..

[RachelDawes]

1. I did have a few head scratching moments though. Angel's affiliation with Shaw was kinda random. I mean, I get that she didn't feel beautiful and what not, but there needed to be something else there. Seemed too rushed.

I'm hoping there's a deleted scene or two that will find its way onto the DVD that will better explain her motivations.

[Deaths Head II]

That seems like a classic exaggeration to me..

It's possible. Everyone in my theater laughed during Spider-Man 3 when Peter started crying after MJ told them they had to break up.

[Heretic]

With all due respect to any posters who may be strippers...

I saw Angel's quick and instinctive heel turn as being in line with the way her character would be. I've dated a few strippers, and they tend to make impulsive, self-destructive bad decisions and due to vents of their upbringing or just constantly being around the drugs, alcohol and sex, they tend to have a negative view of people...and often an inflated view of their own importance, possibly just as a defense mechanism against depression.

[Son of Coul]

It's possible. Everyone in my theater laughed during Spider-Man 3 when Peter started crying after MJ told them they had to break up.

Same here, but a dorky main character crying for about the third time in a movie in a silly way is much different than a ten second reveal of a costume that nobody I went with didn't even think of as being mediocre, let alone laughable.

[Vile]

Really? I thought the story had a great balance of what both sides wanted. I mean, Erik's views were much more aggressive, but I never once forgot about Charles.

I never forgot about Charles either, and I enjoyed his 'playboy' stuff A LOT, but personally I couldnt wait to watch Mag's continue his Nazi Hunt.

That being said, the film REALLY nailed their relationship well.

That seems like a classic exaggeration to me..

Sadly, it wasnt. I actually had to wait till the laughter died down to ask my buddy what Fassbender said (I missed the "Magneto" line). Then again, I was chuckling myself - it looked like a really bad Cosplay costume.

[By your Command]

With all due respect to any posters who may be strippers...

I saw Angel's quick and instinctive heel turn as being in line with the way her character would be. I've dated a few strippers, and they tend to make impulsive, self-destructive bad decisions and due to vents of their upbringing or just constantly being around the drugs, alcohol and sex, they tend to have a negative view of people...and often an inflated view of their own importance, possibly just as a defense mechanism against depression.

Yeah but have you dated one that drinks champagne with the new manager right after he kills a guy she was dancing with minutes ago?, and that two days later throws acid at the chest of one of her mates that she met when she decided she wanted to go to computer school? (I'm sure there's a better metaphor for all of this). The movie could have done a much better explanation for Angel's motivations, that's just the truth.

[roach]

I think it makes more sense to have the powers carry on or be a variation of the parent's abilities. Wouldn't it make more sense if the more useful powers were to carry on to the next generation while the more useless abilities were to die out? Yes, technically the children aren't a mutant if that's the case but it's more of a label anyway for those who have these abilities.

i just prefer it to be random...i'd prefer if Scott and Emma's child not be a telepath or fire beams out of their eyes....

[Doctor Jones]

Did anyone else appreciate the hell out of The Usual Suspects incorporated into the Bad Hat Harry production logo?

****ing awesome. I couldn't help but say awesome out loud.

[roach]

I never forgot about Charles either, and I enjoyed his 'playboy' stuff A LOT, but personally I couldnt wait to watch Mag's continue his Nazi Hunt.

That being said, the film REALLY nailed their relationship well.



Sadly, it wasnt. I actually had to wait till the laughter died down to ask my buddy what Fassbender said (I missed the "Magneto" line). Then again, I was chuckling myself - it looked like a really bad Cosplay costume.

i agree I wasnt a fan of the costume...the helmet was spot on

[Son of Coul]

Did anyone else appreciate the hell out of The Usual Suspects incorporated into the Bad Hat Harry production logo?

****ing awesome. I couldn't help but say awesome out loud.

Yeah that was real cool and well-done.

[roach]

Yeah that was real cool and well-done.

yeah I liked it too

[RachelDawes]

Yeah but have you dated one that drinks champagne with the new manager right after he kills a guy she was dancing with minutes ago?, and that two days later throws acid at the chest of one of her mates that she met when she decided she wanted to go to computer school? (I'm sure there's a better metaphor for all of this). The movie could have done a much better explanation for Angel's motivations, that's just the truth.

I believe Darwin was killed after she left the compound. Also, she just shot the chestplate off Havok, which would make it impossible to use his powers, thus removing him from the fight but not actually killing him. I don't think she was tying to truly hurt him.

[chamber-music]

It's possible. Everyone in my theater laughed during Spider-Man 3 when Peter started crying after MJ told them they had to break up.
People laughed at alot of stuff during Spider-Man 3 at the cinema I saw it in.

[Vile]

i agree I wasnt a fan of the costume...the helmet was spot on

I LOVED the helmet BEFORE the 'ending reveal'. I thought it looked fantastic, especially when Mags had it on for the island sequence.

What killed it, for me, was the silly 'prongs'/'horns' they added to it. I mean, I understand it was on the original Magneto design but...it was silly then and just looked silly now. I would rather they had just kept it the way it was - maybe play with the colors some, but nothing drastic.

[tedw]

I believe Darwin was killed after she left the compound. Also, she just shot the chestplate off Havok, which would make it impossible to use his powers, thus removing him from the fight but not actually killing him. I don't think she was tying to truly hurt him.

You don't think she found out that Darwin died afterwards (not to mention the CIA agents)? And nobody cared that she defected?

[roach]

I LOVED the helmet BEFORE the 'ending reveal'. I thought it looked fantastic, especially when Mags had it on for the island sequence.

What killed it, for me, was the silly 'prongs'/'horns' they added to it. I mean, I understand it was on the original Magneto design but...it was silly then and just looked silly now. I would rather they had just kept it the way it was - maybe play with the colors some, but nothing drastic.

i didnt mind the horns on the helmet...the helmet just didnt match with the costume

[RachelDawes]

You don't think she found out that Darwin died afterwards (not to mention the CIA agents)?

How would she find out about Darwin unless Shaw told her? We don't know that he did. I doubt she's care about the CIA agents, either. She mentioned earlier that she didn't like how they looked at her and we saw how some of them talked to the mutants.

And nobody cared that she defected?

Yeah, I would've liked to have seen the reactions of the group to her defection and Darwin's death.

[SuperSoldier985]

People laughed at alot of stuff during Spider-Man 3 at the cinema I saw it in.
Ugh,...

People are such jerks.

[SuperSoldier985]

Yeah, I would've liked to have seen the reactions of the group to her defection and Darwin's death.
I don't think they needed to sell the devastation and emotion of it at the time. It was already a pretty tense moment and it might've turned way too melodramatic too early.

[ciscostudent561]

Spider man 3 was terrible. I watched horrified. The emo scenes were ridiculous.
People couldn't connect because it was executed in awful fashion

[tedw]

How would she find out about Darwin unless Shaw told her? We don't know that he did. I doubt she's care about the CIA agents, either. She mentioned earlier that she didn't like how they looked at her and we saw how some of them talked to the mutants.

It's just so black-and-white morality if she didn't care. I've met people who've treated me like crap, and spoken to me or looked at me like crap, but that doesn't mean I'd suddenly condone their murder.

Yes, Angel feels uncomfortable with the way the agents regard her. But she must've been getting something out of the deal to have joined up (free place to stay?), and if she didn't like it, surely she could've just gone back to the strip joint. What pushed her to choose Shaw's side so quickly? I wish they'd given that character a bit more exploration about such a big decision.

Yeah, I would've liked to have seen the reactions of the group to her defection and Darwin's death.

Agreed. She should've been called out about this - and if, for some reason, she hadn't been told that Darwin was gone, the end fight was a great place for her to either notice he was missing, or, better still, for the other kids to point this out to her.

[By your Command]

I believe Darwin was killed after she left the compound. Also, she just shot the chestplate off Havok, which would make it impossible to use his powers, thus removing him from the fight but not actually killing him. I don't think she was tying to truly hurt him.

The Darwin thing I can agree with you, maybe she thought he survived, but she was truly going after Havok, she really didn't knew the functionality of the plate, how could she? she just shot acid right at his chest.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I'm pretty sure that Angel was there when Shaw put the Havok energy in Darwin's mouth. So while she may not have been present to see his body actually explode, she saw Shaw harm him first hand.

Also, the biggest thing is the fact that a few scenes later, she is sitting with Shaw, in his sub, toasting him over champagne over the idea of him destroying the entire world.

While Angel may have been a girl of questionable background, she did come off as someone who had some semblance of morality. Then all of a sudden, she throws that all away, and ventures with the guy who *murders* and wants to destroy the world because a couple of immature CIA agents made fun of her?

I really didn't get her turn. I felt her turn was extremely flawed, and forced, just for the sake of having someone turn. She suffers from the same problems that Banshee and Havok do - characters who are obviously meant to be seen as some kind of focus, but given the character development of a blink-and-you-miss-it cameo.

[SWAT]

Best cameo in a superhero movie... EVER. When I saw the cigar I was like "Naw, it's not him" Then he delivered the best line in a superhero movie. Other than that, great movie.

[By your Command]

While Angel may have been a girl of questionable background, she did come off as someone who had some semblance of morality. Then all of a sudden, she throws that all away, and ventures with the guy who *murders* and wants to destroy the world because a couple of immature CIA agents made fun of her?

This was exactly what I thought the first time I saw the movie, I'm not even kidding, my exact thoughts.

[roach]

interesting...watching X-men and Xavier mentions he met Erik at the age of 17

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Round 3 coming up.

[X-Maniac]

interesting...watching X-men and Xavier mentions he met Erik at the age of 17

We know. We knew for months. We don't care. Seriously, what is your agenda here?

[roach]

We know. We knew for months. We don't care. Seriously, what is your agenda here?

geezus can I post something without you getting your panties in a bunch
i have no agenda...i havent seen the movie in a while and was making a comment.

[X-Maniac]

But it's been mentioned on here so many times. It's a minor thing - at least to most people!

So what do you want from the X-Men franchise? A reboot with the original 5? A Singer-directed film? For Marvel to reclaim the rights? Are you generally okay with First Class, or do you dislike it intensely?

[ThisYearsGuy]

But it's been mentioned on here so many times. It's a minor thing - at least to most people!

So what do you want from the X-Men franchise? A reboot with the original 5? A Singer-directed film? For Marvel to reclaim the rights? Are you generally okay with First Class, or do you dislike it intensely?

How many times have I seen this post recently lol. I think the better question is what do you want from this forum?...

I'm curious to know, are in in any way affiliated with Fox? Related to Matthew Vaughn? Friends with Jane Goldman? Because you seem to abhor any negative comment towards First Class. I can't speak for others but in answer to your quoted question perhaps it isn't always about what characters/director/timeline, some people just want a good film!

[Doctor Jones]

Geez, calm down. He was pointing something out that he just discovered.

Roach is an easygoing poster here. One who I wish we had more of.

[danoyse]

Did anyone else appreciate the hell out of The Usual Suspects incorporated into the Bad Hat Harry production logo?

****ing awesome. I couldn't help but say awesome out loud.

Yes! Just as awesome as using a line from Jaws as a production company name.

Just saw it for the 2nd time. And it's even better the second time. Theater was about 2/3 full and the audience seemed to love it. Big cheers for the cameos and lots of laughs during the training sequences. They even picked up that Charles was using the narration for the first two movies as pickup lines. :funny:

Not only did I think Wolverine's cameo was more Wolverine-like than anything he did in his own movie, the scene between Raven and Hank said more about the cure plotline than anything in X3.

[roach]

But it's been mentioned on here so many times. It's a minor thing - at least to most people!

So what do you want from the X-Men franchise? A reboot with the original 5? A Singer-directed film? For Marvel to reclaim the rights? Are you generally okay with First Class, or do you dislike it intensely?

but guess what not everyone has been in this thread to have seen it. I came here to discuss X-Men:Fc and how it fits into the other movies.

I generally liked the movie...it wasnt without its flaws but I liked it. Sorry if you cant peg me into one of your 3 fanboi reasons for hating the movie

[danoyse]

Hey everyone -

X-Maniac doesn't work for Fox.

roach was just making an observation.

Let's not all jump to conclusions or start sniping at each other. Thank you.

[roach]

Geez, calm down. He was pointing something out that he just discovered.

Roach is an easygoing poster here. One who I wish we had more of.

why thanks I try to be...maybe im using an angry font

[roach]

Hey everyone -

X-Maniac doesn't work for Fox.

roach was just making an observation.

Let's not all jump to conclusions or start sniping at each other. Thank you.

or maybe I work for WB..muahhahahahahahahah:woot:

[X-Maniac]

I'm curious to know, are in in any way affiliated with Fox? Related to Matthew Vaughn? Friends with Jane Goldman?

No, no and no!

Because you seem to abhor any negative comment towards First Class. I can't speak for others but in answer to your quoted question perhaps it isn't always about what characters/director/timeline, some people just want a good film!

I'm curious about people's standpoint, what they want to see. Some people will attack the film in any way because they hope (foolishly) to help Marvel reclaim the rights, or are just anti-Fox. Don't tell me you are that naive to think there isn't sometimes an element of sabotage going on?

I think we did get a good film. I can find hardly anything wrong with it. And, of course, the endless raising of continuity niggles is going to be frustrating if one is a regular visitor...

I accept some people won't like it, but the RT score indicates it was overall a very decent instalment in the series. Frankly, I'm baffled at some of the negativity - I thought it would widely be seen as a return to form for the series, especially after the reception on here for X3 and Wolverine!

[ThisYearsGuy]

Hey everyone -

X-Maniac doesn't work for Fox.

Lol I'm guessing that's from my post - Sorry, it was more rhetorical I suppose. I haven't posted much at all on here before but I just felt roach and others were being beaten down a bit for comments that seem to be perfectly acceptable on a forum in my opinion.

Anyway, I've posted my thoughts on the film - perhaps I'll be back when the next X-flick that grabs my attention rolls around (fingers crossed there will still be one). :)

[roach]

"you homo-sapiens and your guns." wow powerful line right there

[roach]

No, no and no!



I'm curious about people's standpoint, what they want to see. Some people will attack the film in any way because they hope (foolishly) to help Marvel reclaim the rights, or are just anti-Fox. Don't tell me you are that naive to think there isn't sometimes an element of sabotage going on?

I think we did get a good film. I can find hardly anything wrong with it. And, of course, the endless raising of continuity niggles is going to be frustrating if one is a regular visitor...

I accept some people won't like it, but the RT score indicates it was overall a very decent instalment in the series.

yet my comments have nothing to do with any of that....and if anyone thinks that views on a message board will kill the positive word of mouth they are foolish...

....however I think that you'd like for someone to have a fanboi-ish view of this movie so you can discount their opinion. Does it matter if I hate Fox if I saw a plot hole or didnt like the Beast make-up????

and sometimes discussing a film with others about plot holes makes the plot holes disappear....like in another thread when someone questioned if brass or gold could crush diamonds...and I opined that if someone could control the metal then its possible to crush diamonds

[Donut]

I am going to make the cameo line my voice mail. So that when people call me & I don't answer they hear a certain mutant telling them to do the f word thing :)

[Papa Burgundy]

dude...the last hour of this movie i got really giddy. it actually felt a bit like xmen when they put the suits on, when magneto started owning fools and all of the well acted beach scenes.

[BMM]

Just going on his appearance and the date of birth for the actor himself (1953). And if he's an early student of Xavier's, then he's presumably in his 30s/40s, on a par with the other students like Jean and Beast.

The Vietnam conflict has a longer history, long enough that without knowing exactly what Stryker did there we can't rule out that he was there at that time.

Not a nitpick (since I've been accused of this) - just pointing out that in all likelihood, Stryker was an adult as of this film, not a little boy. Heck, I'm an adult and my parents think about me, so I'm not suggesting otherwise.

Agreed. It could go either way.

[X-Maniac]

yet my comments have nothing to do with any of that....and if anyone thinks that views on a message board will kill the positive word of mouth they are foolish...

....however I think that you'd like for someone to have a fanboi-ish view of this movie so you can discount their opinion. Does it matter if I hate Fox if I saw a plot hole or didnt like the Beast make-up????

and sometimes discussing a film with others about plot holes makes the plot holes disappear....like in another thread when someone questioned if brass or gold could crush diamonds...and I opined that if someone could control the metal then its possible to crush diamonds

I'm just surprised at the amount of nitpicking and negativity. I find it baffling. With Singer back on board, and Vaughn directing, not to mention a great cast (though not the megastars like Jackman), I thought there would be a widespread sense of relief and delight at the series getting back on track. It's left me puzzled about what people actually want from the series if they can spend so much time picking this film to pieces. I'm absolutely baffled at the reaction.

[roach]

I'm just surprised at the amount of nitpicking and negativity. I find it baffling. With Singer back on board, and Vaughn directing, not to mention a great cast (though not the megastars like Jackman), I thought there would be a widespread sense of relief and delight at the series getting back on track. It's left me puzzled about what people actually want from the series if they can spend so much time picking this film to pieces. I'm absolutely baffled at the reaction.

no one is picking it to pieces...i think you are over reacting

[Doctor Jones]

Yes! Just as awesome as using a line from Jaws as a production company name.

Just saw it for the 2nd time. And it's even better the second time. Theater was about 2/3 full and the audience seemed to love it. Big cheers for the cameos and lots of laughs during the training sequences. They even picked up that Charles was using the narration for the first two movies as pickup lines. :funny:

Not only did I think Wolverine's cameo was more Wolverine-like than anything he did in his own movie, the scene between Raven and Hank said more about the cure plotline than anything in X3.

Yeah, I love it too. Including the aninmated exchange between Brody and Harry at the end of every House episode. :woot:

I didn't reazlie his pick up line to the girl was the opening line to the first film. That's cool. I'm seeing this again tonight so I'll be sure to pick up on things I didn't get the first time.

Also I think using that cure subplot in this was kind of a make up for how poorly they treated it in X3. I still can't believe Rogie cured herself. :doh:

I mean if I were Bobby I'd be pretty pissed I couldn't get some of Anna Paquin but still...

[Deaths Head II]

The cure actually had a message in FC unlike X3. In X3 Rogue learned you should change who you are for some boy whereas Hank was told "Mutant and Proud."

[By your Command]

The cure actually had a message in FC unlike X3. In X3 Rogue learned you should change who you are for some boy whereas Hank was told "Mutant and Proud."

Everytime I saw that part in the movie, I kept remembering that scene with Hank seeing his hand turn human in X3, the mutant and proud thing kinda elevated that scene for me.

[BMM]

I'm just surprised at the amount of nitpicking and negativity. I find it baffling. With Singer back on board, and Vaughn directing, not to mention a great cast (though not the megastars like Jackman), I thought there would be a widespread sense of relief and delight at the series getting back on track. It's left me puzzled about what people actually want from the series if they can spend so much time picking this film to pieces. I'm absolutely baffled at the reaction.

I'm not. I think there are genuine criticisms of the movie, but you could see this coming from some posters a mile away. In fact, I think that because Fox didn't produce an obvious stinker (despite the liberties taken), and that a lot of people seem to be enjoying First Class, it's making some detractors even more upset.

[roach]

Also I think using that cure subplot in this was kind of a make up for how poorly they treated it in X3. I still can't believe Rogie cured herself. :doh:



i dont think that was a nod to X3 but more a nod to the comics...Beast going from human to blue and furry was pretty much spot on...

He becomes a research scientist at the Brand Corporation, a genetics research facility. His assistant, Linda Donaldson, quickly becomes his girlfriend. Hank isolates a "hormonal extract" allowing anyone to become a mutant for a short period of time, and uses the mutagenic serum on himself to disguise his appearance while foiling an attempt to steal his research.However, he waits too long to reverse the process, leaving him permanently transformed. He has grown gray fur (which later turns blue) all over his body and acquired sharp ears, elongated canine teeth, claws, the ability to run on walls and ceilings like a spider, enhanced senses, an accelerated healing factor, and a feral side he struggles to control. He briefly joins the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants when Mastermind wipes out his memory, but quickly recovers. When the Beast is wounded, he is aided by Patsy Walker, and then reunited with his old girlfriend, Vera Cantor. Back at Brand Laboratories, he discovers his girlfriend Linda Donaldson is a Communist spy, and they break up. It was at this time that he joined the Avengers

[roach]

Everytime I saw that part in the movie, I kept remembering that scene with Hank seeing his hand turn human in X3, the mutant and proud thing kinda elevated that scene for me.

however we know the cure didnt work in X3 so the theme is no matter how your try to change yourself you cant

[roach]

In March 2011, Shuler Donner revealed that the film(X4) was in "active development at Fox," saying, "We took the treatment to Fox and they love it...And X4 leads into X5.

I did not know this

[BMM]

Although I wasn't as much a fan of the make-up as I thought I would be, based on the trailers, I think the Beast transformation scene was great.

[By your Command]

however we know the cure didnt work in X3 so the theme is no matter how your try to change yourself you cant

Exactly, I know, I just think that if you see that scene as a continuation (which it is and isn't) of the Beast character, is like a little moment where he is reminded of all that happened before, and how that represents what he wanted and what he knows he shouldn't want anymore.

[X-Maniac]

i dont think that was a nod to X3 but more a nod to the comics...Beast going from human to blue and furry was pretty much spot on...

When I returned from the cinema last night, X-Men: The Last Stand was showing on TV as i flicked through the channels. I ended up leaving it on while i did some stuff on the computer and i thought the cure stuff in First Class does link quite well to X3.

I agree Beast's transformation closely follows the comics storyline. But what happened in First Class made Beast's reaction to the cure in X3 and his reaction to the boy's temporary effect on de-mutating his arm seem much more.

When Storm says 'They can't cure us', Hank says 'Well, scientifically speaking..' and Storm interrupts him. You can almost imagine that he would have gone on to say 'Well, scientifically speaking, it's certainly possible, although my own experiments were hardly a success.'

And his reaction at seeing what Leech did seemed more resonant and poignant in the light of what happened to him in First Class. In my view, of course.

Of course, overall, First Class has far more emotional depth than X3, which uses broad brush strokes to tell its story and rarely offers genuine, deep emotion.

[roach]

dammit i am not trying to watch X3 again

[UltimateJustin]

The cure actually had a message in FC unlike X3. In X3 Rogue learned you should change who you are for some boy whereas Hank was told "Mutant and Proud."
X3 doesn't really explore the theme on more than a base level, but surely there is a message there for discussion about about freedom of choice, even for a mutant to choose to deny her powers. She never learned that's what she 'should' do, and most of the people she respects tried to steer her the opposite way, but she believed she had the right to do something to make her life enjoyable for her. 'Mutant and Proud' isn't exactly a new theme for this series, no offense to FC.

[X Knight]

In March 2011, Shuler Donner revealed that the film(X4) was in "active development at Fox," saying, "We took the treatment to Fox and they love it...And X4 leads into X5.

I did not know this

hmmm..........not sure how I feel about this.

I would think having 2 separate "timelines" running at or around the same time would confuse the general audience.

Like, if the next X-men movie was X4, which followed the events of X3, and then the movie after that was the First Class sequel, you'd be jumping back and forth between different timelines and different sets of actors.

don't think that would work out too well..........

[By your Command]

'Mutant and Proud' isn't exactly a new theme for this series, no offense to FC.

That's true, but you know which theme is new to the series and just wont't leave?, the choosing of sides, they just can't make an X-Men movie without people scrambling for teams, that's something I really wish the (possible) sequel won't do.

[roach]

Things I did like about XFC:

The suits: For years we've heard how the suits couldnt work in film and they proved everyone wrong.

Chess: Xavier and Magneto playing chess on the steps of the Lincoln memorial is a link to the end of X-men.

Blackbird: I liked that they went with the original jet instead of one of the Jim Lee ones like the other movies. Also the fact that it crashed...as a long time reader back when the New X-men debuted (Wolverine, Storm, Colossus and company) almost everytime they got into the Blackbird it crashed or blew up.

I liked other parts but these didnt get posted yet

[roach]

That's true, but you know which theme is new to the series and just wont't leave?, the choosing of sides, they just can't make an X-Men movie without people scrambling for teams, that's something I really wish the (possible) sequel won't do.

no one switched teams in the first one nor the third one

[ciscostudent561]

Pyro switched teams

[roach]

Pyro switched teams

yeah in X2

[By your Command]

no one switched teams in the first one nor the third one

Two words: Jean Grey.

[X-Maniac]

That's true, but you know which theme is new to the series and just wont't leave?, the choosing of sides, they just can't make an X-Men movie without people scrambling for teams, that's something I really wish the (possible) sequel won't do.

Well, since we have the social/genetic divide of mutants and humans, and within the mutants we then have those who want peace/co-existence and those who don't, I think that taking sides, or changing sides, is automatically a feature of the franchise.

Wolverine chose to side with the X-Men in X1, Magneto and the X-Men joined sides in X2, Pyro moved to the dark side in X2, Jean Grey did the same in X3. Shifting allegiances is part of the drama. How else can they make it unpredictable and interesting?

[roach]

Two words: Jean Grey.

but that wasnt Jean..it was the Phoenix force...in X4 we find out that Jean is in a stasis pod at the bottom of Alkali Lake while the Phoenix impersonated her...lol

yeah I forgot she joined Magneto

[By your Command]

Well, since we have the social/genetic divide of mutants and humans, and within the mutants we then have those who want peace/co-existence and those who don't, I think that taking sides, or changing sides, is automatically a feature of the franchise.

It is, but it's become so on the nose, at least they should make it subtle, Pyro on "X2" was beautifully done, a couple of glances, attitude, no words needed.

[roach]

It is, but it's become so on the nose, at least they should make it subtle, Pyro on "X2" was beautifully done, a couple of glances, attitude, no words needed.

yeah there was a real "seduction" going on

[By your Command]

but that wasnt Jean..it was the Phoenix force...in X4 we find out that Jean is in a stasis pod at the bottom of Alkali Lake while the Phoenix impersonated her...lol

yeah I forgot she joined Magneto

I literally screamed with laughter, that was awesome, it really, really was.

[roach]

I literally screamed with laughter, that was awesome, it really, really was.

freakin X-Factor number 1

[By your Command]

freakin X-Factor number 1

Yeah, comic books, you gotta love em.

[roach]

i mean im not really upset I've been a fan of the originals and the all new all different for a long time

[By your Command]

Oh me too! the new X-Factor, it's impressively good, if anything I want them to reboot Jamie Madrox, cause just as everyone says that Emma Frost was not on "Wolverine", I say that Jamie wasn't on X3.

[roach]

i stopped reading X-men a long time ago...its become something else entirely

[By your Command]

i stopped reading X-men a long time ago...its become something else entirely

Well I can't vouch for the "X-Men" comics, but I can tell you that "X-Factor Investigations" its superb, especially when you get to the end of the first 40 issues... If you can give it a look, great team, great storylines.

[spider-neil]

Bottom line, it's Storm.


it can't be storm. it was 1962 and the little girl was at least 6 that would put storm in her late 40's when clearly storm is in her 30's (at most)

[roach]

it can't be storm. it was 1962 and the little girl was at least 6 that would put storm in her late 40's when clearly storm is in her 30's (at most)

its storm...the time thing is confusing for the writers too...which is why we cant get a straight answer on if Havok is Scott's brother or father

[Deaths Head II]

it can't be storm. it was 1962 and the little girl was at least 6 that would put storm in her late 40's when clearly storm is in her 30's (at most)

The original trilogy could be set in the 90s. And I don't think Vaughn and Singer are being extremely strict when it comes to sticking to continuity.

[runawayboulder]

I saw First Class today and it was terrific. Very well done all around. When this movie was first announced I first thought I would just wait for the DVD but the trailer helped change that. It wasn't the best comic book movie but it was one of the good ones. Maybe just outside of the top 10 all time comic movies. Strong work by Vaughn.

The performances were strong which is something the original trilogy lacked sometimes, so credit the writers on that. Also credit them for the awesome tie in to the Cuban Missile Crisis and political thriller edge to it.

McAvoy, Bacon and Fassbender were the best actors of the film. January Jones was a pleasant surprise considering I don't watch Mad Men.

Beast looked 50 times better than in X3. Azazel and Riptide were really cool despite minimal lines.

The costumes are way better and much more faithful to the comics.

I'm hoping for Mr Sinister and Apocalypse in the next movies.

And last but not least Jennifer Lawrence is HOT HOT HOT. I've heard of her prior to this, now Winter's Bone is at the top of my must watch list.


Some more spoilerific thoughts:

The cameos were great. Jackman's scene was hilarious and drew a big laugh from the audience. Rebecca Romijn's cameo drew a lot of gasps and oh's and ah's as well. The cameos didn't stop there, Michael Ironside and James Remar were pleasant surprises as well. The casting director did a great job bringing in familiar faces.

I wish Rose Byrne had a little bit more to do in the movie. I was hoping for a stronger romantic build up with Xavier. I hope she gets a bigger role next time around.

I though Oliver Platt was going to have a larger role throughout the entire film. I honestly was surprised he was killed halfway through.

I felt that Angel and Darwin were kinda wasted in the movie. Angel switching sides halfway through didn't have an impact for me. They were just starting to build her up and she joins the Hellfire Club at the snap of Shaw's fingers while Frost was forgotten about in the 2nd half. Angel then became Shaw's woman with no real explanation as to her motives. I'm not buying fear, they're kids, they were all afraid. She needed something more I felt.

Darwin would have made the end fight better, it was a little on the weak side.

I didn't like the fact that Xavier ended up in the wheelchair so fast. If this is the first of a planned trilogy, I thing it would have served better at the end of the 2nd movie leading into the 3rd and final installment. It was odd seeing a young guy in the chair.

[roach]

i'd rather they save Apocalypse for the X4 or until they get some more firepower...Banshee, Havok and Beast arent gonna do a thing to him

i like how they were able to take the three or four lines of dialogue Mystique had in the whole series and build a character from it...her everyline has something to do with her appearance

[Ipodman]

Watched it a second time with my dad... he thought Havok was Cyclops :dry:

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

The original trilogy could be set in the 90s. And I don't think Vaughn and Singer are being extremely strict when it comes to sticking to continuity.

This series has never had a strict timeline, so seeing a Storm cameo that would make her in her 40's in the movies when she's really in her 30's isn't really that far fetched.

[SuperSoldier985]

Watched it a second time with my dad... he thought Havok was Cyclops :dry:
Wow, :doh::doh:

[roach]

Watched it a second time with my dad... he thought Havok was Cyclops :dry:

well to be honest if someone isnt up on the comics its a mistake someone could make...its not like they did anything to make the energy blasts different from Scott's optic blasts...both have trouble controlling their powers and need an apparatus to control it

[SuperSoldier985]

If someone isn't up on the comics, they wouldn't even know who Cyclops was to begin with...That's why it's so weird.

[roach]

If someone isn't up on the comics, they wouldn't even know who Cyclops was to begin with...That's why it's so weird.

he was in the other movies...if they saw xmen or x2 then they'll know of the character

[SuperSoldier985]

he was in the other movies...if they saw xmen or x2 then they'll know of the character
Still wouldn't have made sense.

[Deaths Head II]

I think most people that know about X-Men know about Cyclops. He's in almost every single adaptation.

[roach]

I think most people that know about X-Men know about Cyclops. He's in almost every single adaptation.

and the movies were insanely popular....besides the fact that his energy blasts looked and sounded like cyclops optic blasts from the first trilogy

[SuperSoldier985]

That is no excuse. It only hurts the argument of how anyone would think that was Cyclops

[combocaz]

The writers could have come up with something better than just a bullet ricochet to paralyze Prof.X. Its almost as bad as a bullet to wolverines head to make him lose his memory. I thought darwin and bug girl wasnt needed for the movie. I dont really like how most of the xmen characters have to have american accents. The timeline of the franchise is screwed but thats hollywood for you. The movie is good in its own fox world of xmen but nothing like the xmen in the comics ive read.

[Tony Starkk]

I loved First Class but did anyone else wish the chess scene would be longer? It was great with the time it had but i was expecting a really long extended scene. I hope there is an extended cut that comes out on the dvd/blu-ray.

[SentinelMind]

I think you guys are way too hard on the dad. He's not a comic book geek as you guys are...mutant that blasts rays with another mutant that blast rays that usually would be centerpiece of every comic movie. Plus, Havok essentially played Cyclops role in the Gifted Academy. I can see many people making that mistake.

I gave it 7/10...it was good..interesting concept storytelling adding WW2 - Cold War History to the mutant/superhero drama. The acting wasn't very good, imo, except for Bacon and McAvoy. The movie relied too much camp/sex appeal/deus ex machina for me to take it too seriously. That CIA agent chick was not credible in her role at all. Not as good as X-men and X-men 2.

[A Necessary Evil]

dammit i am not trying to watch X3 again

:funny: :up:

[LostSon88]

The writers could have come up with something better than just a bullet ricochet to paralyze Prof.X.

I liked it. It was sudden and completely unexpected. And plus as we all know, Erik (in his younger incarnation at least) would never intentionally want to hurt Charles...which is what makes what happened even more tragic and heartwrenching.

When it happened, it actually got one of the biggest reactions from my crowd. They all let out an very loud gasp. As did I for I didn't expect them to paralyze Xavier so soon.

[roach]

The writers could have come up with something better than just a bullet ricochet to paralyze Prof.X. Its almost as bad as a bullet to wolverines head to make him lose his memory. I thought darwin and bug girl wasnt needed for the movie. I dont really like how most of the xmen characters have to have american accents. The timeline of the franchise is screwed but thats hollywood for you. The movie is good in its own fox world of xmen but nothing like the xmen in the comics ive read.

actually Magneto causing Xavier's paralysis was pretty good...of the Xmen shown only Banshee is supposed to have an accent and i dont remember if he had one or not

[Deaths Head II]

Banshee didn't have an accent. Moira should have had one too.

[roach]

Banshee didn't have an accent. Moira should have had one too.

well the series has never been good with accents...Storm went from a african-like accent to none...Logan never had a canadian accent...Scott didnt have a midwestern accent(he was raised in the midwest) Bobby didnt have a boston accent

[Marvolo]

Just got back from watching it and I would give it an 8/10. X2 is still my favorite, but this is a close second if not on the same level. I loved the 60's setting. Emma Frost was HOT!!! I really liked how they handled the Mystique/Magneto story. It definitely changes how I view their relationship in X1&X2 and adds weight to Mystiques character. I still prefer Patrick Stewart and Ian Mckellan, but Macavoy and Fassbender did a good job. Overall I was pleased, and I would love a sequel with these actors back.

[Ipodman]

I think most people that know about X-Men know about Cyclops. He's in almost every single adaptation.

Yea they even managed to squeeze him into the Wolverine movie :dry:

(And in this one actually :dry::dry:)

There was a kid in my theater crying when beast transformed. He's like "What's that!? What's that!?"

[The Wizard]

Watched the film tonight. I liked it.

[Loganbabe]

Did you have a favourite in the ensemble?
Vaughn - It's obvious, but Magneto. I sat down with Michael, and I said, "You know, I've always wanted to do a Bond movie. Imagine you're Bond, but you don't have to use gadgets. You can do s*** that other people can't. You're the ultimate assassin in the world that no one knows about." I've always loved Magneto. It's weird, because his power's bloody odd, if you think about it. It's not that great a power. But there's something about Magneto that I've always loved.
I've seen the movie twice and I love it. Love, love, love it. But I still can't help thinking that Vaughn and Fox should've gone with the Magneto - Origins idea, instead of using the X-Men to tell a Magneto Origins' story.

I mean, I wanted more Charles. I wanted to know more about him and his philosophy, I wanted to know a little bit more about his genetic studies. A little bit more about his relationship with Raven, maybe with a short scene of young Charles and Raven having a conversation, Charles telling her how he found out about his powers and what it meant to him, Raven talking about her fear of scaring people and people being mean to her because of her appearence, which would maybe give Charles this notion he should "protect" his adopted sister by making her look "normal", etc.

James talked a lot in interviews about Charles days at Oxord - the pubs, the girls, having nice conversations while having a beer. It seems a lot was cut out from the final movie. Even when they announced "Charles Francis Xavier, professor..." we don't get to see him. :mad: And the idea of a romantic relationship with Moira was cut out too.

Charles' biggest character development, I thought, would come when he started training the kids. And using Cerebro. But then, there was a montage and it was all over too soon. I was frustrated to say the least. I mean, he was accessing other mutants all over the world for the very first time, discovering that there were hundreds, maybe thousands of them. Why couldn't there be a moment in which he talks about it? All this leads to character development after all.

I don't think it's necessary to put one character aside when you want to go Bond with the other. Eric's arc was amazing and very well done in this film. I expected Xavier to be the focus on the next. But since Vaughn already said he'll bring only one more mutant, and it's related to Magneto, (the school only has 3 students at the end of First Class, and no gilrs, and Magneto already has a cool group of mutants for his Brotherhood), and he since he never stops talking about Magneto being his favorite in every damn interview, my hopes are slowly going down.

All in all Xavier had much less screen time that I had imagined initially. But James made him shine even in the smallest and unimportant moments. What an actor. He never gives up on a character, really, even when he's not the main focus.

Anyway, this is just a general conclusion, based on my own expectations, for both the character and the actor. I understand a lot of people loved James in this. I loved him too, but the truth is, he wasn't given enough material to develop his Xavier. And then we have this stupid Anne Thompson (http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2011/06/05/x-men_first_class_winners_and_losers_fassbender_up_l awrence_down/) talking about "winners" and "losers" in First Class, and obviously Fassbender is the "winner" and James is the "loser". It's nice that a lot of the comments disagree with her. But unfortunately, that dumb notion of winners and losers in Hollywood tend to stick. :csad:

I still have A LOT more to talk about the film. Going to see it again this week, btw.

[The Wizard]

I would've liked to see more of Charles, too. For example, the scene where he's declared a professor, we should've seen the actual event. If he received his Ph.D. in genetics, which he clearly did, we should have seen that take place. Also, I would've liked to have seen him teaching at Oxford, if only for one scene. Charles' paralysis was one of my favorite scenes - his conversation with Erik, and the moment they part ways, was moving. His final scene with Moira was also touching - I'd like to see her in a sequel that expands on their relationship. His "anonymity is a mutant's first defense" line to Moira just spoke to me.

[tedw]

James talked a lot in interviews about Charles days at Oxord - the pubs, the girls, having nice conversations while having a beer. It seems a lot was cut out from the final movie. Even when they announced "Charles Francis Xavier, professor..." we don't get to see him. :mad: And the idea of a romantic relationship with Moira was cut out too.

Wasn't there discussion of Xavier using his powers to incite student (or student/mutant) uprising on campus? Just another idea that got cut, I suppose?

[GREEN =w= DAY]

just came back from watching First Class a second time and i still love it!

one thing i did notice more this time around was the score. it's great! especially Magneto's theme. pure awesomeness :word:

and i still stand by what i said after my first viewing, First Class is definately the best Marvel movie up to now. better than X2, Spidey 2, Incredible Hulk, and Iron Man.

[chamber-music]

well the series has never been good with accents...Storm went from a african-like accent to none...Logan never had a canadian accent...Scott didnt have a midwestern accent(he was raised in the midwest) Bobby didnt have a boston accent

Pyro wasn't Australian in the preivous X-Men movies Juggernaut wasn't American, Colossus didn't have a russian accent

I wasn't too bothered by the accents

Banshee and Moria are Irish and Scottish which is the nationality of McAvoy and Fassbender. James McAvoy wasn't too happy they didn't keep Moria Scottish though

[craigdbfan]

Thinking about something McAvoy said in one of his interviews. In that the friendship had to be genuine for a lot of it to work and when he heard Vaughn had Fassbender at the top of his list for Magneto is what made him believe and join the project.

Them being friends and real life before the fact and incredibly good ones at that, definitely helped this movie. That "bromance" as some would call it was one of the most genuine relationships between two friends I've seen in a very long time.

[Ipodman]

On second viewing, I noticed that Erik already planned how he was going to kill Shaw when we first see him grown up

[Loganbabe]

Thinking about something McAvoy said in one of his interviews. In that the friendship had to be genuine for a lot of it to work and when he heard Vaughn had Fassbender at the top of his list for Magneto is what made him believe and join the project.
Actually it was the opposite. James was the first actor to be cast. Fassbender said that one of the things that got him interested in reading the script was the fact that McAvoy was already in, and he admired his work a great deal.
I love their friendship too; all the interviews they did together are a blast. Damn, someone give them their own talk show already! :woot:
Plus, you can see the genuine admiration for each other; they're funny, sexy and smart together. The best and most real bromance of all time, really, in fiction and in the real world.
The fangirls at Tumblr are shipping Charles and Erik like crazy, lol! :awesome:

[craigdbfan]

Not quite.

Here's the interview itself straight from McAvoy's mouth.

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[Ahura Mazda]

This was a good movie, much better then X3 or Wolverine. I only had a few quips with the whole thing but really too minor to mention. It is well worth seeing.

[Loganbabe]

Not quite.

Here's the interview itself straight from McAvoy's mouth.
I can't see the video at work, do you mind making a brief summary of what he says?

Wasn't there discussion of Xavier using his powers to incite student (or student/mutant) uprising on campus? Just another idea that got cut, I suppose?
Yeah, I seem to remember something about it! It's quite a great idea, actually. Shame... :csad:

[nightwing06]

When the story outline for X-Men: First Class was announced: a reboot of the original
X-men team,Proffesor X ,Jean Grey,Cyclops,Beast and Angel,i said hey why not should be interesting.
But then the outline changed,none but 1 of the aforementioned characters would be in the film,the characters would be a mix of characters from different era's of the X-men
I thought what a terrible idea,then bits and pieces of the filming popped up,then various marketing photos,that didnt boost my interest in the film at all.
Then some very smart people at Marvel/Fox put together some interesting trailers and clips. They got my attention and anticipation for the film was gained.

X-Men: First Class is the best in the series of X-men films.
Thanks to great work by the main 3 leads,James McAvoy as Professor Charles Xavier / Professor X ,Michael Fassbender as Erik Lehnsherr / Magneto,Jennifer Lawrence as Raven / Mystique
Thinking they are all alone in the world,the only humans with something extra in their genetic code.Their lives intertwine when Sebastian Shaw(Kevin Bacon cold and creepy to the 100th power ) a powerful mutant bent on world domination,sets in motion the destruction of most of the world,by manipulating the players in the Cuban missle crisis.
This is a well acted film,emotionally charged,good amount of action,you really feel something for the characters and their plight,their own self prejudices,and search for their place in the world.The conflict of wanting to be themselves,but also wanting to be accepted as normal.
I liked the fact that Magneto was open to the change Proffesor X offered,but stayed on the course of what he wanted.You feel the bond between the two,but we know whats coming and how it will end. But not how it will play out.
XFC has one of the best climaxes i have seen in a film.
the cast is an interesting mix of established and up and coming actors :
Rose Byrne as Dr. Moira MacTaggert ,Nicholas Hoult as Dr. Henry "Hank" McCoy / Beast,Oliver Platt as A CIA agent ,Zoë Kravitz as Angel Salvadore
Caleb Landry Jones as Sean Cassidy / BansheeLucas Till as Alex Summers / Havok,
Edi Gathegi as Armando Muñoz / Darwin Jason Flemyng as Azazel.
With such a large cast some character development definitely doesnt happen,characters vanish for portions of the film and some just completely vanish.There is some hammy and blank acting.
But XFC far surpasses the jumbled,rushed,and uneven mess that was X-Men: The Last Stand.
My faith in the mutant division of Marvel films has waivered over the years,but thanks to
Director Matthew Vaughn,Producer Bryan Singer,writers Ashley Edward Miller
Zack Stentz ,Jane Goldman and some terrific acting,my faith has been restored.
Scale of 1-10 a 9

[Spindae]

The best X men movie till now! aT FIRST i DOUBT THIS MOVIE WILL BE GOOD, NOW i KNOW IT'S EXCELLENT!
I thought there will be to much charecters and not enough time! It was just perfect! Really great Job! Now I wanna watch Class II! The Magneto actor rocked the movie, I loved Charles akcent! Emma frost did a great job too! Great crew for a great movie!

[kedrell]

Kedrell u better give xmen a higher score or I'll have u ip banned

What I have rated.....I have rated. So let it be written, so let it be done.
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[roach]

What I have rated.....I have rated. So let it be written, so let it be done.
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time for some ten plagues

[Doc Samson]

Had to digest this film over the weekend before posting, but easily, I rank this film right up there with Batman Begins as one of the greatest superhero movies ever.

Maybe I'm biased, because I absolutely despised most of the original X-men trilogy, in particular the focus (or lack there of) on the team as a whole. And even though this movie is strongly based on Magneto's arc, it still doesn't enter the Wolverine territory of the previous trilogy.

Speaking of, in terms of villainy for me, it's always The Joker, Lex Luthor, Dr. Doom & Magneto, in that order. And with all due respect to Sir Ian, who did a fantastic job as well, Fassbender embodies a certain sense of intimidation I felt was missing before. He had a more vile presence from the very beginning, while still towing the line of reasoning and understanding that makes Erik such a fascinating character.

My only gripe, and it's more of a plot thing, is the nonchalant way young Erik allows Sebastian to console him, directly after causing him the most traumatic event in his whole life? If this was his whole motivation throughout the movie, I found it odd that he didn't even attempt to attack Shaw personally in the beginning. Sure, he's a young mutant at the time and clearly no match, but he still didn't even raise a finger towards him, instead settling for a bunch of rudimentary damage.

The pacing was brisk, almost too brisk I thought at first, but the writing is so strong it works to great effect. Emotionally, this was probably the strongest film since TDK where I was invested in characters and motivations. And I must say, even though I almost never have a problem with movies changing and adapting origins and things of that nature, this is probably the only film next to Nolan's flicks where it works to such a great level. I prefer almost every change made, to the previous X-men movies & the comics! Especially Mystique, Xavier & Moira. I thought it was fantastic, and made sense, in the context of a 2 hr movie in particular.

Simply put this is the X-men movie I've always wanted to see. Brilliant job!!

[AlterEgo]

I'd give it an 8/10. Pretty damn good. A lot better than I was expecting.

[Xtroid]

X-Men: First Class was great.

The best X-Men movie.

I want sequel. NOW.

[Legion]

Had to digest this film over the weekend before posting, but easily, I rank this film right up there with Batman Begins as one of the greatest superhero movies ever.

Maybe I'm biased, because I absolutely despised most of the original X-men trilogy, in particular the focus (or lack there of) on the team as a whole. And even though this movie is strongly based on Magneto's arc, it still doesn't enter the Wolverine territory of the previous trilogy.

Speaking of, in terms of villainy for me, it's always The Joker, Lex Luthor, Dr. Doom & Magneto, in that order. And with all due respect to Sir Ian, who did a fantastic job as well, Fassbender embodies a certain sense of intimidation I felt was missing before. He had a more vile presence from the very beginning, while still towing the line of reasoning and understanding that makes Erik such a fascinating character.

My only gripe, and it's more of a plot thing, is the nonchalant way young Erik allows Sebastian to console him, directly after causing him the most traumatic event in his whole life? If this was his whole motivation throughout the movie, I found it odd that he didn't even attempt to attack Shaw personally in the beginning. Sure, he's a young mutant at the time and clearly no match, but he still didn't even raise a finger towards him, instead settling for a bunch of rudimentary damage.

The pacing was brisk, almost too brisk I thought at first, but the writing is so strong it works to great effect. Emotionally, this was probably the strongest film since TDK where I was invested in characters and motivations. And I must say, even though I almost never have a problem with movies changing and adapting origins and things of that nature, this is probably the only film next to Nolan's flicks where it works to such a great level. I prefer almost every change made, to the previous X-men movies & the comics! Especially Mystique, Xavier & Moira. I thought it was fantastic, and made sense, in the context of a 2 hr movie in particular.

Simply put this is the X-men movie I've always wanted to see. Brilliant job!!

He didn't allow himself to be consoled, Shaw ran in there excited and put his arms around him. Erik didn't fight back because he felt helpless. You can tell that he was lacking confidence and strength and then you consider how the Nazis treated him. He was also probably in shock at his own display of power and completely overwhelmed by grief. It was alot.

The point of that scene really is to show how insignificant Mrs. Lenscherr's life was to Shaw. She was just a tool to get Erik's powers to emerge and you can only wonder what other "fun" he had planned for Erik.

[SuperSoldier985]

I knew this movie was going to be special after Shaw talks with Erik, we see Shaw ring the bell and we get the 180 shot of the "mad scientist" lab.

[B.A. Baracus]

On second viewing, I noticed that Erik already planned how he was going to kill Shaw when we first see him grown up

Yeah i saw that coming a mile off, though i expected him to 'shape' it into a bullet.

[B.A. Baracus]

Quick Question the song over the end credits is Love Love by Take That, very famous here in the UK, Are they known in the USA?

[Karelia]

My mom & girlfriend went to see this tonight and thought it was a great movie. My mom loved Charles in this. :D

[DieSmiling]

just came back from watching First Class a second time and i still love it!

one thing i did notice more this time around was the score. it's great! especially Magneto's theme. pure awesomeness :word:

and i still stand by what i said after my first viewing, First Class is definately the best Marvel movie up to now. better than X2, Spidey 2, Incredible Hulk, and Iron Man.

Funny you should mention that... I was not a fan of the score at all. The subtler stuff was fine, but the epic theme was missing... X2 and X3 both had much more awesome themes during the epic moments...

I liked FC a lot but was a bit disappointed. I think I bought into the hype too much. The action was a little underwhelming. I hated the Xavier/Mystique relationship. It didn't seem to flow the way it should have... Like too much was cut out or it was rewritten too many times. I'm not sure where it stands relative to other movies, but I definitely don't think it's the best X-Men movie.

That said, it was a very cool movie. Magneto was awesome, and by far the coolest part of the movie. Kevin Bacon played a great villain. It was overall acted very well and had a lot of cool and fun moments.

[A Necessary Evil]

Quick Question the song over the end credits is Love Love by Take That, very famous here in the UK, Are they known in the USA?

So odd, my end credits are score only....

[psylockolussus]

Gonna watch it for the third time tomorrow!

[spider-neil]

X:FC joins that rare group of movies I've watched where I didn't want the movie to end while I was watching and I could have happily watched another HOUR of this movie.

[B.A. Baracus]

So odd, my end credits are score only....

Are you in the USA, In the Uk we had score followed by Love Love by take That-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFV7nZYK1qo