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mrvlknight21
06-17-2011, 03:25 PM
He wasn't an employee. He was just some dude. Some dude who assumed I had weaker calves than him, when they are in fact (surprisingly) stronger.

WTF?!?!?

I'm just shocked somebody had the nerve to adjust your ****.


^ This.

Seriously. Who the F does that?

and ^ This.

You shouldve *****-slapped him

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-19-2011, 08:47 PM
Ugh....hangover today, went out to the City last night for my friend's b-day. But I could have been a lot worse, day started off rough, recovered pretty fast.

Need to hit the gym tomorrow though and tighten the diet back up this week.

mrvlknight21
06-19-2011, 09:49 PM
Grilled 6 chicken breasts and 5 deer burgers tonight. Should be good to go on food for a few days.

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-19-2011, 10:39 PM
Nice, I really need to grill something but I am waaaaay to ****ing lazy right now. And tired, and hungry.

Mary Jane Watson
06-20-2011, 12:10 AM
Tomorrow I am going to meet the personal trainer cuz I have no idea how to gain muscle..seriously lol. Just want to know how to do it right and get the result more faster. Yeah I am pretty excited about that. :up:

WillardNation
06-20-2011, 12:15 AM
So during jiu jitsu class on Friday, we were doing take downs and I was able to take down a 270 pound lineman with wrestling experience and I hiptossed a 210 pound blue belt. I was pretty happy about that. (I weigh about 175 at the moment.)

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-20-2011, 12:26 AM
Nice :up:

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-20-2011, 12:27 AM
Tomorrow I am going to meet the personal trainer cuz I have no idea how to gain muscle..seriously lol. Just want to know how to do it right and get the result more faster. Yeah I am pretty excited about that. :up:

Just curious, what gym? Also if you can, find out what credentials the trainer has.

WillardNation
06-20-2011, 12:35 AM
Nice :up:
Yeah, it made me feel really confidant competing at 155 next month. I don't care if I am goin up against purple and brown belts; them *****es gettin thrown!

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-20-2011, 09:02 AM
Do work son! :up:

AndThePickles
06-20-2011, 10:54 AM
Grilled 6 chicken breasts and 5 deer burgers tonight. Should be good to go on food for a few days.

Sweet! Spoons and I bought so much lean protein, fruits, and veggies at the store yesterday lol. I've got a slow cooker full of spicy black bean soup simmering on the counter at home.

ComicChick
06-20-2011, 12:46 PM
i'm pretty sure i lost like 2-3 lbs this weekend from working a 20 hr shift, sleeping 4 hours, then working another 6 hours. and that's not to mention the 13 hours i worked friday.

i hope the scale wasn't lying to me

Mary Jane Watson
06-20-2011, 04:29 PM
Just curious, what gym? Also if you can, find out what credentials the trainer has.

University in northern BC gym also someone told me that trainer is pretty good at gaining muscle area. So I just go for it.

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-20-2011, 06:14 PM
University in northern BC gym also someone told me that trainer is pretty good at gaining muscle area. So I just go for it.

Eh, "someone told me" "look at him, he's ripped" "dude can bench like 400lbs", sayings like that are ones that you should not take at full face value and do some more research.

Not saying that it is invalid, but who else has he trained? How do you know he doesn't have some of his clients use PEDs? Does he have a weekend training certificate? Has he trained any professional or Olympic athletes?

These are questions that you really should consider when getting a personal trainer. There are 11 or so personal trainers at my gym, there is 1. One, I would work with.

mrvlknight21
06-21-2011, 07:45 AM
University in northern BC gym also someone told me that trainer is pretty good at gaining muscle area. So I just go for it.

Eh, "someone told me" "look at him, he's ripped" "dude can bench like 400lbs", sayings like that are ones that you should not take at full face value and do some more research.

Not saying that it is invalid, but who else has he trained? How do you know he doesn't have some of his clients use PEDs? Does he have a weekend training certificate? Has he trained any professional or Olympic athletes?

These are questions that you really should consider when getting a personal trainer. There are 11 or so personal trainers at my gym, there is 1. One, I would work with.

I would agree with Bah on this. You definitely want to have at least one conversation with that guy and maybe a conversation with one or two of his clients. Dont simply go by one person's comment/recommendation. He could be just the guy you need, but its worth it to do a little research and be sure before dropping any money or time.

Also, make sure the trainer understands YOUR goals and ask him if he has trained someone with these same goals before. Ask about the results, the time it took, get an idea of the diet and training regimen, type of movements, etc. When you have faith in your trainer, you will be more apt to push towards your goals.

TerryMcGinnis
06-21-2011, 01:09 PM
Also, a good indicator whether he'll be any use to you is to ask around whether he's had clients with both similar training status AND goals AND whether or not he's actually helped them reach those goals.

Mary Jane Watson
06-21-2011, 09:49 PM
Eh, "someone told me" "look at him, he's ripped" "dude can bench like 400lbs", sayings like that are ones that you should not take at full face value and do some more research.

Not saying that it is invalid, but who else has he trained? How do you know he doesn't have some of his clients use PEDs? Does he have a weekend training certificate? Has he trained any professional or Olympic athletes?

These are questions that you really should consider when getting a personal trainer. There are 11 or so personal trainers at my gym, there is 1. One, I would work with.

I would agree with Bah on this. You definitely want to have at least one conversation with that guy and maybe a conversation with one or two of his clients. Dont simply go by one person's comment/recommendation. He could be just the guy you need, but its worth it to do a little research and be sure before dropping any money or time.

Also, make sure the trainer understands YOUR goals and ask him if he has trained someone with these same goals before. Ask about the results, the time it took, get an idea of the diet and training regimen, type of movements, etc. When you have faith in your trainer, you will be more apt to push towards your goals.

Also, a good indicator whether he'll be any use to you is to ask around whether he's had clients with both similar training status AND goals AND whether or not he's actually helped them reach those goals.

Well, I agree with you. I should have done that before. But I did meet him on yesterday, he is actually that good. He gave me 2 month of routine for workout, what should I eat, etc.

mrvlknight21
06-22-2011, 11:24 AM
To get you over the hump (hump day-Wednesday)....

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p457/gatomjp/deadlift.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/allisonmagara/038_38.jpg

http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae259/strengthathletes/prowler.jpg


Deadlift, Muscle up, Prowler push.

Sounds like a crazy WOD, actually.

Troy_Parker
06-22-2011, 02:59 PM
Fairly new to all this so you'll have to forgive me. I've recently started doing cardio (running) for about 20 minutes a day, then weights. I tried doing weights first but I'm so smashed afterwards I can't do cardio. :\ ...Should I do weights, have about 10 minutes to rest then do cardio?

Help me exercise gurus!

gohei_
06-22-2011, 03:09 PM
Well that depends on what your goals are. If possible, do not do both cardio and strength training on the same day.

mrvlknight21
06-22-2011, 03:17 PM
Fairly new to all this so you'll have to forgive me. I've recently started doing cardio (running) for about 20 minutes a day, then weights. I tried doing weights first but I'm so smashed afterwards I can't do cardio. :\ ...Should I do weights, have about 10 minutes to rest then do cardio?

Help me exercise gurus!

If you do cardio prior to weights, you will be weaker (more tired) and thus not able to lift as much as you could. So, this could slow progress on that front.
Also, depending on what you are doing, worst case scenario is that you give some potential for injury because you are tired and using bad form.


Most people recommend either separate the training days OR weight train first.

And as gohei asked....what are your goals?

Troy_Parker
06-22-2011, 03:24 PM
Well that depends on what your goals are. If possible, do not do both cardio and strength training on the same day.

Just looking to lose a bit of weight and gain some muscle, nothing too fancy.

If you do cardio prior to weights, you will be weaker (more tired) and thus not able to lift as much as you could. So, this could slow progress on that front.
Also, depending on what you are doing, worst case scenario is that you give some potential for injury because you are tired and using bad form.


Most people recommend either separate the training days OR weight train first.

And as gohei asked....what are your goals?

I'm just looking to lose some weight, tone up a little and gain some muscle. Would it be better for me to do cardio and weights on separate days?

Bruce Banner
06-22-2011, 04:02 PM
Lately my running shoes have been unbearable, so I have been running barefoot more. I have to say I think I might actually run faster with no shoes.
(still going to get the vibrams though)

I found some photos from a few years ago when I was more buff(still thin though). Its odd to see the difference. I feel ridiculously more agile now, as I have grown a little older being quick on my feet is really starting to suit my needs more.

DeGenerate10
06-22-2011, 09:17 PM
What reps/sets should one be aiming for if they're looking to bulk up? I've mainly been focusing on compound workouts but I've read to do 5 sets. Then I've so read to do 3 sets.

mrvlknight21
06-22-2011, 09:26 PM
My work in progress......
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/050.jpg

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-23-2011, 01:22 PM
Did work yesterday at the gym;

Pull ups: 3x7 x bodyweight

Deads: 3x5 x 155lbs felt heavy, but I felt strong pulling the whole time. :up:

Bench: 3x5 x 155lbs felt heavy and well could really feel myself pushing hard at the end. Wasn't struggling to the point where my form was bad, but was struggling where I can feel I may plateau soon.

HaloCod27
06-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Whoops sorry

HaloCod27
06-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Dangit

mrvlknight21
06-23-2011, 09:45 PM
3 of us tested for our next belt rank tonight. Took a few pics with the other asst instructors and chief instructor afterwards. Thought I would share.

Most of you already know what I look like, but for those who dont, I am on the far right.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/P1010303.jpg

WildcatNC
06-23-2011, 11:16 PM
3 of us tested for our next belt rank tonight. Took a few pics with the other asst instructors and chief instructor afterwards. Thought I would share.

Most of you already know what I look like, but for those who dont, I am on the far right.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/P1010303.jpg



What system if I might ask? I can't tell from the pic. The wood dummy could be a hint but many schools use them now.

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-24-2011, 01:13 AM
What reps/sets should one be aiming for if they're looking to bulk up? I've mainly been focusing on compound workouts but I've read to do 5 sets. Then I've so read to do 3 sets.

Well do you want to bulk up or get/be strong? Most people automatically associate one with the other, but some guys that look huge [yes they are strong] but can certainly be out lifted by guys smaller than them.


There are several ways you can go about doing it, some people will recommend one over the other but I say experiment and find which method produces the results you like the best.

But basically eat as much as you can, 3,000+ calories on workout days, 2,000 or so + on rest days. Lots of protein.

mrvlknight21
06-24-2011, 05:57 AM
What system if I might ask? I can't tell from the pic. The wood dummy could be a hint but many schools use them now.
Jeet Kune Do and Close Quarters Defense Tactics.

I will assume that you know what JKD is.

CQDT is a hybrid system that includes grappling (jiu-jitsu), joint locking (hapkido), stick and knife fighting (Kali) and some Muay Thai. The founder of CQDT is a black belt in like 6 systems and created this system.

TerryMcGinnis
06-24-2011, 06:47 AM
Watched "I want to look like that guy" yesterday. Gotta admit it was quite good. That guy Jeff pretty much tells it like it is, except where he was wrong, is that you don't need to continuously be in a daily deficit, for weeks upon weeks, to lose body fat. Other than that, I liked the approach to training and the fact that he didn't advocate severe dehydration before the contest, as many folks do. And yeah, if he was really natural in his heyday, then he's got some really freaky genetics, I mean, it looks like his joints are super small, yet his upper arms look like they have twice the circumference of his neck.

Spider-ManHero12
06-24-2011, 06:48 AM
I'm very proud of myself the past 3 weeks. after going 7 months without exercising (and gaining almost a thankfully unnoticable 5 pounds) I started doing runs around my neighborhood. On most days, I do 1 hour of running, which, when I wasn't exercising earlier this year made me have a little bit of a stomach even though I was under weight. I'm still 136 (which is pretty light for a guy), but oh well. I plan on having lots of protein sonn so I can start building muscle.

the past 2 days, due to rain, I've done fastwalking/jogging for about 30 minutes. It's definitely not much, but it's better than nothing. I'll be running 1 hour today though.

Golgo-13
06-24-2011, 06:54 AM
3 of us tested for our next belt rank tonight. Took a few pics with the other asst instructors and chief instructor afterwards. Thought I would share.

Most of you already know what I look like, but for those who dont, I am on the far right.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/P1010303.jpg

:up:

Looks like you've packed on some muscle since the 'burpee vid'...!

TerryMcGinnis
06-24-2011, 07:10 AM
I'm very proud of myself the past 3 weeks. after going 7 months without exercising (and gaining almost a thankfully unnoticable 5 pounds) I started doing runs around my neighborhood. On most days, I do 1 hour of running, which, when I wasn't exercising earlier this year made me have a little bit of a stomach even though I was under weight. I'm still 136 (which is pretty light for a guy), but oh well. I plan on having lots of protein sonn so I can start building muscle.

the past 2 days, due to rain, I've done fastwalking/jogging for about 30 minutes. It's definitely not much, but it's better than nothing. I'll be running 1 hour today though.

That's great, but if you want to gain muscle, those runs aren't doing you any favors at all. If you don't have access to a gym, start doing pushups, chinups, body weight squats, use your imagination, you don't need barbells and dumbbells to get bigger. Running definitely isn't the answer to that question though. I used to be that guy at 130-ish lbs concerned with getting fat, which is absolutely insane now that I look back at it. Strength training will give you muscle and burn fat at the same time, if you do it intensely. Especially for an untrained individual who's just getting started with it.

mrvlknight21
06-24-2011, 12:07 PM
:up:

Looks like you've packed on some muscle since the 'burpee vid'...!

Im about 20 lbs heavier than when I made that video, but its DEFINITELY not all muscle. I am stronger though, so Im sure its a balance of muscle and fat.

Speaking of that, I have some other videos I hope to get filmed soon. Just short tutorials (2-3 minutes) that give ideas and demos for various workouts, including some combat sports specific stuff.
For example, one shoulder burnout workout that will help with endurance and power in the arms (for throwing strikes) after you are already tired (so, if you are in a fight, but have to keep fighting or if you are a boxer and the fight goes into some late rounds).

Nightmare
06-24-2011, 12:26 PM
mrvlknight21, nice picture. What class is that? and how old are you?

mrvlknight21
06-24-2011, 12:30 PM
mrvlknight21, nice picture. What class is that? and how old are you?

I posted this above:
Jeet Kune Do and Close Quarters Defense Tactics.

I will assume that you know what JKD is. (if not, just ask).

CQDT is a hybrid system that includes grappling (jiu-jitsu), joint locking (hapkido), stick and knife fighting (Kali) and some Muay Thai. The founder of CQDT is a black belt in like 6 systems and created this system.
__________________


And I turn 36 today.

:shock

WildcatNC
06-24-2011, 12:48 PM
Jeet Kune Do and Close Quarters Defense Tactics.

I will assume that you know what JKD is.

CQDT is a hybrid system that includes grappling (jiu-jitsu), joint locking (hapkido), stick and knife fighting (Kali) and some Muay Thai. The founder of CQDT is a black belt in like 6 systems and created this system.


Oh yea, i'm aware of JKD. I'm actually looking to study some Wing Chun (Wang Kiu line) before to long as there's an instructor nearby with great credentials. I've studied many different systems myself and always enjoy learning more.

mrvlknight21
06-24-2011, 12:59 PM
Oh yea, i'm aware of JKD. I'm actually looking to study some Wing Chun (Wang Kiu line) before to long as there's an instructor nearby with great credentials. I've studied many different systems myself and always enjoy learning more.

Yeah, the Wing Chun stuff we do as a part of JKD is pretty dang cool (it was also the hardest thing for me to grasp). In fact, the 2nd guy in that picture (going from left to right) trained in TRUE Wing Chun years ago under a pretty well known Master. In fact, he has a Wing Chun dummy in his freaking bedroom!

WildcatNC
06-24-2011, 01:15 PM
Yeah, the Wing Chun stuff we do as a part of JKD is pretty dang cool (it was also the hardest thing for me to grasp). In fact, the 2nd guy in that picture (going from left to right) trained in TRUE Wing Chun years ago under a pretty well known Master. In fact, he has a Wing Chun dummy in his freaking bedroom!

Nice. I'm familiar with many of the concepts and already use much of the footwork (good footwork is often good footwork). I haven't done any training with "sticky hands", "chain punching" or other specific Wing Chun principles, though i've done similar practices with other systems. I also normally learn to go outside(safer for beginners) or inside, depending on the circumstances. Since Wing Chun is about keeping the centerline it will be different.

I think its a good system to add to anyone's training though.

Spider-Nerd
06-24-2011, 02:11 PM
I'm normally not a fan of muscle and fitness but there's a nice article in this month's issue about the benefits of a high natural fat low carb diet. I've been saying it for years. :)

Colossal Spoons
06-24-2011, 02:42 PM
Trying a new flavor of Muscle Milk(Graham Cracker!) and a new brand of protein altogether:

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/7867/img0145br.jpg

Spider-ManHero12
06-24-2011, 02:47 PM
That's great, but if you want to gain muscle, those runs aren't doing you any favors at all. If you don't have access to a gym, start doing pushups, chinups, body weight squats, use your imagination, you don't need barbells and dumbbells to get bigger. Running definitely isn't the answer to that question though. I used to be that guy at 130-ish lbs concerned with getting fat, which is absolutely insane now that I look back at it. Strength training will give you muscle and burn fat at the same time, if you do it intensely. Especially for an untrained individual who's just getting started with it. Oh, I know, and that is actually going to be my next step. I've been trying to do it in slow steps, but I think i'm ready for pushups and things like that. How many do you think I should do?

TerryMcGinnis
06-24-2011, 04:19 PM
Oh, I know, and that is actually going to be my next step. I've been trying to do it in slow steps, but I think i'm ready for pushups and things like that. How many do you think I should do?

I have no idea how strong you are, make sure to push yourself hard, not long. Try to do as many relatively slow and controlled push ups as you can in, for instance, a minute or a minute and a half. Then stick to that timeframe so you can monitor your progress from workout to workout, week to week. After push ups take a break for a couple of minutes then do the same with squats, then a break again, then some other exercise. The key here is not to flail around like a maniac, make each rep slow and controlled, don't sacrifice quality for quantity. Monitor your total time as well, that can also be a marker of progress as weeks go by. Generally, you should be done in around half an hour, and you should feel like a train hit you. Eat big after this and then rest. Take the next day off, eat less that day, then repeat the workout the day after that. Sounds simple? It is, and it bloody works.

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-24-2011, 05:05 PM
That's great, but if you want to gain muscle, those runs aren't doing you any favors at all. If you don't have access to a gym, start doing pushups, chinups, body weight squats, use your imagination, you don't need barbells and dumbbells to get bigger. Running definitely isn't the answer to that question though. I used to be that guy at 130-ish lbs concerned with getting fat, which is absolutely insane now that I look back at it. Strength training will give you muscle and burn fat at the same time, if you do it intensely. Especially for an untrained individual who's just getting started with it.

Word. Same here, except I was concerned with getting 'bulky' hahaha. Oh man how I wish I could pack on muscle that fast.

TerryMcGinnis
06-24-2011, 05:42 PM
Word. Same here, except I was concerned with getting 'bulky' hahaha. Oh man how I wish I could pack on muscle that fast.

I'm 21, but damn, I wish I could go back and visit my early high school self and give him a firm kick in the backside followed by a well layed out nutritional plan and training routine =D

Manic
06-24-2011, 06:55 PM
I had a good leg workout earlier today. :up:


Whoever recommended eating plain tuna straight out of the can can burn in hell. :csad:

ComicChick
06-25-2011, 01:31 AM
I had a good leg workout earlier today. :up:


Whoever recommended eating plain tuna straight out of the can can burn in hell. :csad:

eww

WildcatNC
06-25-2011, 02:48 AM
I had a good leg workout earlier today. :up:


Whoever recommended eating plain tuna straight out of the can can burn in hell. :csad:

I do it. I get the kind in extra virgin olive oil though. I keep a ton of them around to throw on salads or grab on the go. Its almost a complete meal with the olive oil in it. On the Paleo thing I just got used to it I suppose, its handy as hell.

TerryMcGinnis
06-25-2011, 04:40 AM
Whoever recommended eating plain tuna straight out of the can can burn in hell. :csad:

Haha, people say that about cottage cheese all the time, but I eat like 2 lbs of it daily. I just add tons of it to every dish I eat. The variety I get here has 18g of protein per 100g of cheese and it's dirt cheap. Covers the protein pretty nicely, especially when you consider all the other stuff I eat. I'll take whole food over powders and shakes any day.

DeGenerate10
06-25-2011, 05:56 AM
Well do you want to bulk up or get/be strong? Most people automatically associate one with the other, but some guys that look huge [yes they are strong] but can certainly be out lifted by guys smaller than them.


There are several ways you can go about doing it, some people will recommend one over the other but I say experiment and find which method produces the results you like the best.

But basically eat as much as you can, 3,000+ calories on workout days, 2,000 or so + on rest days. Lots of protein.

I'd like both but bulking up is my main focus

Colossal Spoons
06-25-2011, 01:30 PM
Happy Birthday Devil!

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-25-2011, 01:31 PM
Haha, people say that about cottage cheese all the time, but I eat like 2 lbs of it daily. I just add tons of it to every dish I eat. The variety I get here has 18g of protein per 100g of cheese and it's dirt cheap. Covers the protein pretty nicely, especially when you consider all the other stuff I eat. I'll take whole food over powders and shakes any day.

Cottage cheese almost literally made me lose it when I ate it, I had to force myself to eat every single bite without getting sick.

Tuna in a can....any day any where any time, unless it's in oil, gnarly. I know how healthy cottage cheese is supposed to be, but I just can't do it.

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-25-2011, 01:32 PM
Happy Birthday Devil!

Is today Devil's birthday? :confused:

Colossal Spoons
06-25-2011, 01:34 PM
Yesterday

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-25-2011, 01:35 PM
I had a good leg workout earlier today. :up:


Whoever recommended eating plain tuna straight out of the can can burn in hell. :csad:

eww

Oh it's not that bad you sissies. :up:

I do it. I get the kind in extra virgin olive oil though. I keep a ton of them around to throw on salads or grab on the go. Its almost a complete meal with the olive oil in it. On the Paleo thing I just got used to it I suppose, its handy as hell.

Although I've read recently that tuna in a can loses a lot of it's nutritional value.

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-25-2011, 01:35 PM
Yesterday

Ah, well...

Happy belated Devil! One day before mine. :D

Colossal Spoons
06-25-2011, 01:40 PM
Happy Birthday Everybody! :p

Tuna is oil loses some omega fatty acids when you drain it. I prefer my tuna in water and in a pouch(just think it tastes better than canned)

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-25-2011, 01:47 PM
:up:

Agreed on all accounts.

mrvlknight21
06-25-2011, 02:18 PM
Happy Birthday Devil!

Ah, well...

Happy belated Devil! One day before mine. :D

Thanks fellas. And Happy Birthday to you BAH!

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-25-2011, 04:16 PM
Thank you SIR! The big 3-0!

WildcatNC
06-25-2011, 07:03 PM
Happy Birthday Everybody! :p

Tuna is oil loses some omega fatty acids when you drain it. I prefer my tuna in water and in a pouch(just think it tastes better than canned)

I eat it oil and all. I don't drain it. Pouch does taste better than canned but its no biggie for me. The pop top cans are just convenient as hell.

I also love me some Tuna steak and treat myself often. One of my favorite protein foods.

ComicChick
06-25-2011, 10:29 PM
Tuna is oil loses some omega fatty acids when you drain it. I prefer my tuna in water and in a pouch(just think it tastes better than canned)

me too.

just hit a huge milestone for me

60 lbs lost since mid 2009

TerryMcGinnis
06-26-2011, 06:15 AM
^^
That's a fantastic milestone, great job! How much more do you plan on losing? Forgive me if I'm being overly inquisitive.

WillardNation
06-26-2011, 07:58 AM
me too.

just hit a huge milestone for me

60 lbs lost since mid 2009
Nice!!!

triplefive
06-26-2011, 10:13 AM
me too.

just hit a huge milestone for me

60 lbs lost since mid 2009
that is amazing, congratulations!


i'm trying to drop a bit of what i consider to be excess body fat before the wedding.

my workout schedule is:
saturday - 5k run, ab workout
sunday - mile run, full body circuit training
tuesday - i've been running 5k but i'm thinking of changing this to something else. thoughts anyone? i have about 40 minutes to play with on weekday mornings.
thursday - 15 minutes of 60-sec walk/30-sec sprint intervals, 10 minutes of bike (i'm training for a charity event that involves a 7 minute burst on a stationary bike), ab workout

i'm not on an official diet, though i'm watching what i eat in general. i've cut back on refined sugar, processed food, anything that is just empty calories. if it has a few grams of protein and fibre, then i'm a bit more lenient about the calories/fat. i've cut almost all liquid calories except for a cup of milk/soy milk and the occasional/rare night out. i do allow myself small cheats once or twice a week. it's better to feed cravings sometimes than overeat "healthy" substitutes. i'm big on recipes that use quinoa and black beans. i eat whole grains exclusively. i don't think i could do better, diet-wise.

basically, i'm trying to drop the 10lb i gained in university but i never weigh myself so there's no particular number that i'm concerned with. it is very hard for me to lose weight because i'm so petite.

four months to go!

Colossal Spoons
06-26-2011, 10:28 AM
Just don't put it back on after the wedding like most people do.

Congrats though, haven't seen ya in forever :D

gohei_
06-26-2011, 10:53 AM
Just looking to lose a bit of weight and gain some muscle, nothing too fancy.



I'm just looking to lose some weight, tone up a little and gain some muscle. Would it be better for me to do cardio and weights on separate days?

Well if you don't have to do cardio at all unless you want to. You can get in good shape just by lifting weights and keeping a good diet. But it is recommended to keep cardio and strength training separated as much as possible.

WildcatNC
06-26-2011, 11:11 AM
me too.

just hit a huge milestone for me

60 lbs lost since mid 2009


Thats great! :up:


I've lost 33 lbs since early march this year. Feel great.

triplefive
06-26-2011, 12:08 PM
Just don't put it back on after the wedding like most people do.

Congrats though, haven't seen ya in forever :D
yeah, i mean, i was small to begin with, but i have some problem areas. ideally i'd like to maintain my current body weight/makeup until i get into the whole childbearing stage of my life, but that's another story for another day.
Thats great! :up:


I've lost 33 lbs since early march this year. Feel great.
great job! it's also helpful to realize that it's not about the number, it's about how much your quality of life improves, so, awesome!

ComicChick
06-26-2011, 09:32 PM
^^
That's a fantastic milestone, great job! How much more do you plan on losing? Forgive me if I'm being overly inquisitive.

im not sure

mrvlknight21
06-27-2011, 07:49 AM
Well, I pulled up the carpet and padding and laid down horse stall mats as my new gym flooring yesterday. I got about 80% of the room covered now and began the new set up.

I have some pics that I will post later today (once I get them up on photobucket).

Im pretty excited, but again, the size of the room is a little discouraging. Even with the computer and all out of there....I cant add anything new. Oh well, it will be far more motivating when I go in there to my DEDICATED workout room and see gym posters hanging up and not have to move my daughter's toys around just to DO WORK.

Here is the progress...

Moved the dumbbells and stuff out of the room:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/workout%20equipment/DSC02798.jpg

Even the wife helped get the old carpet up:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/workout%20equipment/DSC02800.jpg

First two stall mats and rower laid down.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/workout%20equipment/DSC02801.jpg

More stuff:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/workout%20equipment/DSC02802.jpg

Dumbbell rack close up
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/workout%20equipment/DSC02803.jpg

Dry erase board:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/workout%20equipment/DSC02807.jpg


More pics once its all done.

craigdbfan
06-28-2011, 02:16 AM
Very nice. :up:

Better than my cramped workout space. My bench blocks my entire walking path in my room.

mrvlknight21
06-28-2011, 07:28 AM
Very nice. :up:

Better than my cramped workout space. My bench blocks my entire walking path in my room.

Hey, this is definitely small and cramped (8' x 15'). I just got the computer and my daughter's toys out of there, thank God. If I hadnt, it would be TOTALLY cramped.

Luckily, I have some stuff outside plus multiple gym memberships.


Speaking of that...here is my outdoor posterier chain workout area-large tire, trap bar and 3 sets of dumbbells.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/workout%20equipment/DSC02805.jpg

By the way guys, I realized really quickly that the IF diet is NOT for me because of my work schedule. I started fasting that first day in the afternoon, as planned. The next morning, I had a good breakfast and then I got to work and things were crazy...essentially, I missed lunch and all planned snacks. Thus, I wouldve only had that one meal.
This happened 2 times in one week...and to be honest, can happen at least that often because of work. So...Im looking into other stuff.
Willardnation has me ready to pull the trigger on the Paleo Solution book. Unfortunately, I cant find it dirt cheap (like on half.com, for example) like I do almost every book that I purchase. I do know the essentials, but according to Willard, this is much easier to understand and follow.

My current goal is to cut 20 lbs, so the diet (as usual) is essential.

NotFadeAway
06-28-2011, 04:26 PM
Can a marathon runner co-exist with an Atkins diet?

TerryMcGinnis
06-28-2011, 04:28 PM
Can a marathon runner co-exist with an Atkins diet?

It's not exactly a match made in heaven. Why would a marathon runner even consider atkins?

NotFadeAway
06-28-2011, 04:35 PM
It's not exactly a match made in heaven. Why would a marathon runner even consider atkins?

A marathon runner trying to shed 10lbs!!

I had a friend who got on a diet full of beef, cheeses, eggs, etc and said his cardio has never been better. No bread, pasta, potatoes. Thats basically atkins, though it was from that fathead documentary.

triplefive
06-28-2011, 04:39 PM
a quick google search shows a lot of polarizing opinions on the matter... generally, it sounds like it would slow you down because your body has to work harder to get its fuel from fat, but people say it's doable.

NotFadeAway
06-28-2011, 04:47 PM
a quick google search shows a lot of polarizing opinions on the matter... generally, it sounds like it would slow you down because your body has to work harder to get its fuel from fat, but people say it's doable.


I'm very torn on trying this. I usually stick to a high carb, low fat diet full of pasta, potatoes, oatmeal, but it's almost like my body has gotten tired of this.

triplefive
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
i think it depends on how much you care about your performance, in terms of numbers... or when you have your next race.

i personally think atkins and the like are crap, so.

you could just modify your diet - increase fibre and protein and decrease carbs except for right before a race.

you'd probably want to see a doctor too.

WillardNation
06-28-2011, 06:18 PM
By the way guys, I realized really quickly that the IF diet is NOT for me because of my work schedule. I started fasting that first day in the afternoon, as planned. The next morning, I had a good breakfast and then I got to work and things were crazy...essentially, I missed lunch and all planned snacks. Thus, I wouldve only had that one meal.
This happened 2 times in one week...and to be honest, can happen at least that often because of work. So...Im looking into other stuff.
Willardnation has me ready to pull the trigger on the Paleo Solution book. Unfortunately, I cant find it dirt cheap (like on half.com, for example) like I do almost every book that I purchase. I do know the essentials, but according to Willard, this is much easier to understand and follow.

My current goal is to cut 20 lbs, so the diet (as usual) is essential.
:up:

WillardNation
06-28-2011, 06:23 PM
A marathon runner trying to shed 10lbs!!

I had a friend who got on a diet full of beef, cheeses, eggs, etc and said his cardio has never been better. No bread, pasta, potatoes. Thats basically atkins, though it was from that fathead documentary.
If you're going that route, you should just do paleo. Lean meats, fruits & veggies, nuts and seeds. No grains, dairy, legumes or refined sugar. As a high level athlete, I can tell you it absolutely is the best. I'm stronger, leaner and feeling better than ever.

Manic
06-28-2011, 06:26 PM
Whoever recommended eating plain tuna straight out of the can can burn in hell. :csad:

I take it back. I am a master of seasonings.

NotFadeAway
06-29-2011, 11:04 AM
If you're going that route, you should just do paleo. Lean meats, fruits & veggies, nuts and seeds. No grains, dairy, legumes or refined sugar. As a high level athlete, I can tell you it absolutely is the best. I'm stronger, leaner and feeling better than ever.

May I ask, why is dairy excluded? Cheese has no carbs.

mrvlknight21
06-29-2011, 11:52 AM
May I ask, why is dairy excluded? Cheese has no carbs.

If you read some stuff about Paleo, its not about carbs vs protein. It more about eating natural foods. Meats, veggies are at the top of that list.

Not saying that thousands of years ago, cavemen or whomever didnt drink milk.....but it wouldve been raw, straight from the cow. Not processed, homogenized, etc.

Here is an article explaining the good and bad regarding milk:

http://paleodietlifestyle.com/place-of-dairy-on-paleo-diet/


Also of note, a friend of mine tried Paleo for 6 months, but continued consuming skim milk and natural peanut butter. He trained very hard, doing a lot of gymnastic (ring) movements in particular.
He got INCREDIBLE results. Muscle mass was up, bodyfat was SUPER low and looked awesome. So, it all depends on how strict you want to go with it.

WildcatNC
06-29-2011, 11:55 AM
May I ask, why is dairy excluded? Cheese has no carbs.

Some exclude it and some only moderate it. Its mostly due to Lactose and Casien though. Both are thought to be culprits for subclinical allergic responses (sometimes overt). Also in a natural sense no animal, including humans, naturally drank milk beyond infancy. Most of the world becomes lactose intolerant to some degree as they mature.

I am Paleo but I still use dairy in moderation. Not much at all though. There are differing schools of thought on what is okay and what is not.

mrvlknight21
06-29-2011, 12:00 PM
A good beginner's guide to Paleo:

http://nerdfitness.com/blog/2010/10/04/the-beginners-guide-to-the-paleo-diet/

Trainwreck2100
06-29-2011, 01:28 PM
the only carb cutting i'm doing is not eating them for dinner, like mrvlknight my job doesn't allow me to really stick to any good diet plan. So I haven't really seen any info on supplements here. Do you guys take any/ recommend any Right now i'm taking niacinamide(b3), pantothetic acid (b5), OAD pro edge.

ComicChick
06-29-2011, 10:35 PM
so i met this guy named Andy Haman today. Probably the biggest dude I've seen in real-life (musculature wise, not height)

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2010/andy-haman-2010-phoenix-pro-interview_bsm.jpg

http://www.dymatize.com/clientuploads/directory/teamdymatize/andyhaman.jpg

Colossal Spoons
06-30-2011, 05:09 AM
I'd never heard of that fellow before now. Big dude though.

Spider-ManHero12
06-30-2011, 07:15 AM
Guys, I bought some grilled chicken from Whole Foods (the buffet area. It's a chicken breast but cut into many peices) and it contains cannola oil. I only had once piece so far because i heard it can cause cancer and hurt your metabolism. Is this true?

Colossal Spoons
06-30-2011, 08:02 AM
There've been some recent findings about canola oil being "bad" for you but I wouldn't go out of my way to avoid it like the plague. Olive oil is the best, but if you eat some foods with some peanut, canola, soybean, sunflower then so be it.

As for it being carcinogenic, just add it to the list :whatever:

Spider-ManHero12
06-30-2011, 09:24 AM
^^ Thanks for the info man.

DeGenerate10
07-03-2011, 11:26 AM
If I'm wanting to catch my upper chest up to the rest of my chest. Should I just focus on incline benches, etc for a while and cut out the flat bench? Or keep both of them in my workout

gohei_
07-04-2011, 06:41 AM
So I were away on a Kung Fu camp over the weekend and got to try out a lot of stuff that's way beyond my level, and it was a great experience to say the least. I can't wait for the next one.

Golgo-13
07-04-2011, 07:45 AM
Has anyone had any real success building up their legs? And when i say real, i mean a sizable increase in mass ...

JAKŪ
07-04-2011, 08:22 AM
Has anyone had any real success building up their legs? And when i say real, i mean a sizable increase in mass ...
Last year I just did a basic program with squats while on a bulk and my legs ballooned up.

Colossal Spoons
07-04-2011, 08:53 AM
I think I gota decent set of wheels. I enjoy doing hamstrings and quads on seperate days too.

ChickenScratch
07-04-2011, 10:24 AM
So I were away on a Kung Fu camp over the weekend and got to try out a lot of stuff that's way beyond my level, and it was a great experience to say the least. I can't wait for the next one.

Kung Fu camp. Reminds me of karate camp when I was a kid. Though it was usually for a whole month in the summer. Go in one belt, get graded half way through and go home with another, fight in a couple tournaments, train with Sensei from my style I had not met. Too bad I'm too old for karate camp now, unless I go as an instructor.

gohei_
07-04-2011, 10:32 AM
Kung Fu camp. Reminds me of karate camp when I was a kid. Though it was usually for a whole month in the summer. Go in one belt, get graded half way through and go home with another, fight in a couple tournaments, train with Sensei from my style I had not met. Too bad I'm too old for karate camp now, unless I go as an instructor.

Man that sounds great, I could have easily been away for a month. Sadly that will probably not happen here in Sweden. I also got my first belt this weekend, haven't really bothered with it before but decided to take it now just for the heck of it.

WillardNation
07-04-2011, 12:00 PM
I've been so busy lately, I've only worked out like once on the past week. Gonna have to do something today for sure.

Spider-Nerd
07-06-2011, 09:59 PM
Have had some back spams for the last 4 days. Started feeling a little better today so I did what any reasonable person would do. Bench, Squat, Row, and 400lb Sled pulls. I feel 18 again!

TerryMcGinnis
07-07-2011, 01:33 AM
That's the spirit! Funny how whenever I feel back pain it goes away after a good squatting or deadlifting session.

mrvlknight21
07-07-2011, 08:57 AM
Have had some back spams for the last 4 days. Started feeling a little better today so I did what any reasonable person would do. Bench, Squat, Row, and 400lb Sled pulls. I feel 18 again!

Nice!

Mary Jane Watson
07-07-2011, 11:55 AM
You guys were(or are?) right about low carbs and high protein. It really works very well. I just gained about 2 lbs for only 1 and half weeks. Thanks! :)

Spider-Nerd
07-07-2011, 12:14 PM
You guys were(or are?) right about low carbs and high protein. It really works very well. I just gained about 2 lbs for only 1 and half weeks. Thanks! :)

People who initially go on a low sugar diet always tell me, "I'm still hungry". Solution? Eat more green vegetables. Nobody ever got fat eating too much broccoli or green beans. Taste terrible? Add a little butter, it'll help you absorb some of the vitamins and is a good source vitamins A and D. Love those medium chain fatty acids! :up:

Manic
07-07-2011, 12:54 PM
Whenever someone tells me to eat more vegetables, I break out the jalepenos. If I'm going to eat a plain veg, I at least want it to be an interesting experience.

Mary Jane Watson
07-07-2011, 01:56 PM
Well, I love to eat fruit and veggie. No problem for me at all.

But one of my big weaknesses is peanut butter (at least it gets some proteins and low carbs).

gohei_
07-07-2011, 02:12 PM
Peanut butter is awesome :D Always eat it on my rest days.

Mary Jane Watson
07-07-2011, 02:54 PM
I am wondering... what is the 10 or 20 best ( and basic) ab exercises?

gohei_
07-07-2011, 03:01 PM
Why do you need so many? Hanging leg lifts and dragonflags are the first to pop up and I don't think you would need many more.

Mary Jane Watson
07-07-2011, 03:05 PM
Many? I dont think so. :huh:

gohei_
07-07-2011, 03:11 PM
Maybe that's just me then :woot:

WillardNation
07-07-2011, 03:16 PM
Well, I love to eat fruit and veggie. No problem for me at all.

But one of my big weaknesses is peanut butter (at least it gets some proteins and low carbs).
Switching to almond butter should still get you that fix and it's healthy!

I personally hate eating vegetables but force myself to at most meals. I've started to just getting my veggies in juice form so I can still get the benefit but can down it real fast and don't have to torture myself chewing the retched stuff.

Colossal Spoons
07-07-2011, 03:38 PM
I'm on the fruit/vegetable juice train too. I just can't squeeze in enough servings throughout the day via whole foods.

Mary Jane Watson
07-07-2011, 03:44 PM
Switching to almond butter should still get you that fix and it's healthy!

I personally hate eating vegetables but force myself to at most meals. I've started to just getting my veggies in juice form so I can still get the benefit but can down it real fast and don't have to torture myself chewing the retched stuff.

Almond Butter ugh. PB ftw!

Btw, I am using Kraft 25% low fat PB. It is taste better than regular PB.

uchiha_itachi
07-07-2011, 04:40 PM
What should I eat Peanut butter with? some has appeared in my house so Im going to give it a go lol

Mary Jane Watson
07-07-2011, 04:58 PM
What should I eat Peanut butter with? some has appeared in my house so Im going to give it a go lol

Appppple! :)

Banana
Good old Pb and jam sandwich
Mixed with ice cream and melted chocolate chip ( Yummy)

Colossal Spoons
07-07-2011, 05:02 PM
In a protein shake, straight outta the jar, in a car, in a sandwich with bananas, with a mouse in a house, etc

Just watch the calories

Spider-Nerd
07-07-2011, 07:53 PM
I'm on the fruit/vegetable juice train too. I just can't squeeze in enough servings throughout the day via whole foods.

Tell me you keep the fruit's skin in there. Don't miss out on all the good stuff!

Spider-Nerd
07-07-2011, 07:55 PM
I am wondering... what is the 10 or 20 best ( and basic) ab exercises?

Don't do any situps. I'm not a fan of spinal flexion. The absolute best ab exercises are the barbell squat, deadlift, plank, and reverse cable woodchop imo. There are plenty others but I've found those to be the best.

AndThePickles
07-07-2011, 08:48 PM
I'm on the fruit/vegetable juice train too. I just can't squeeze in enough servings throughout the day via whole foods.

I'm very proud of you for trying spinach and squash :yay:

Mary Jane Watson
07-07-2011, 09:50 PM
Don't do any situps. I'm not a fan of spinal flexion. The absolute best ab exercises are the barbell squat, deadlift, plank, and reverse cable woodchop imo. There are plenty others but I've found those to be the best.

Thanks. What is a good website for abs exercises?

Manic
07-07-2011, 10:21 PM
This'un? http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/finder/lookup/filter/muscle/id/13/muscle/abdominals

Spider-Nerd
07-07-2011, 10:57 PM
Thanks. What is a good website for abs exercises?

You know, just so you know, you can't spot reduce body fat.

Mary Jane Watson
07-07-2011, 11:11 PM
This'un? http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/finder/lookup/filter/muscle/id/13/muscle/abdominals

That's sweet website. Thanks!

You know, just so you know, you can't spot reduce body fat.

Haha, yeah, I know that, but I dont really have any fat on my stomach. So no biggie.

teh Puffy
07-08-2011, 12:58 AM
I went from 31% water weight and 50% body fat at 330lbs down to 39% water weight 41% body fat and 264lbs in less than 5.5months. awesome my thing is I want a little less water weight as i work out, every 1% of body fat gone .5% water weight up. Any solutions. I drink close to a gallon water a day is that the effect,

mrvlknight21
07-10-2011, 06:23 AM
Switching to almond butter should still get you that fix and it's healthy!

I personally hate eating vegetables but force myself to at most meals. I've started to just getting my veggies in juice form so I can still get the benefit but can down it real fast and don't have to torture myself chewing the retched stuff.

What kind of veggies/combos of veggies do you use for the juices?

WillardNation
07-10-2011, 12:48 PM
What kind of veggies/combos of veggies do you use for the juices?
The other day I got beet, carrot, parsley, cucumber and ginger. Wasn't too bad.

TerryMcGinnis
07-11-2011, 06:23 AM
I just can't imagine eating a large serving of meat or fish without a good amount of green veggies (whatever kind) on the side. They just complement each other incredibly well, even if we disregard the health benefits. Also, I completely avoid liquid calories, if I have a choice I'll always rather chew my food than drink it.

You know, just so you know, you can't spot reduce body fat.

But hey, you can spot gain it to a certain degree :awesome:

TerryMcGinnis
07-11-2011, 06:29 AM
doublepost

mrvlknight21
07-11-2011, 10:02 AM
SPOONS!!!- can we get a review of dat dere Graham Cracker flavor protein???

I was tempted but since I have a lot of Whey still to consume, I decided to hold off.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cs/milk.html

WillardNation
07-11-2011, 10:05 AM
I just can't imagine eating a large serving of meat or fish without a good amount of green veggies (whatever kind) on the side. They just complement each other incredibly well, even if we disregard the health benefits. Also, I completely avoid liquid calories, if I have a choice I'll always rather chew my food than drink it.
Ya know I think is the best compliment to meat? More meat! :awesome:

Colossal Spoons
07-11-2011, 10:18 AM
SPOONS!!!- can we get a review of dat dere Graham Cracker flavor protein???

I was tempted but since I have a lot of Whey still to consume, I decided to hold off.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cs/milk.html

It's freakin delicious. I've only used milk as opposed to water but I def recommend!

mrvlknight21
07-11-2011, 02:19 PM
It's freakin delicious. I've only used milk as opposed to water but I def recommend!


:awesome::awesome::awesome:

Thanks man. This will probably be my next purchase.

I hope Willard doesnt pimp slap me for not going paleo on post workout shakes, but I think this one with milk would be outstanding as well.

TerryMcGinnis
07-11-2011, 04:21 PM
Any of you guys had experience with rib injuries, or know someone who has?

Lately I've been feeling pressure and a dull pain in the lowest two ribs on my right side and I'm fairly sure it's note due to sore muscles. One of those ribs even clicks and moves, a little too much for me to be comfortable with it, when I apply a bit of pressure to it.

I'm going to the doc's tomorrow anyway, I'm just assuming at least some of you who are into contact sports would know, so I'm asking.

ComicChick
07-11-2011, 06:33 PM
Spoons did you try that sample I sent you? I was gonna scan the photo I sent you but I forgot. At least I got him to personalize it :up:

Do WORK

WillardNation
07-11-2011, 08:09 PM
Any of you guys had experience with rib injuries, or know someone who has?

Lately I've been feeling pressure and a dull pain in the lowest two ribs on my right side and I'm fairly sure it's note due to sore muscles. One of those ribs even clicks and moves, a little too much for me to be comfortable with it, when I apply a bit of pressure to it.

I'm going to the doc's tomorrow anyway, I'm just assuming at least some of you who are into contact sports would know, so I'm asking.
It sounds like maybe the cartilidge separated from the rib. That's happened to me before. Unfortunately, the only way to fix that is to wait.

Colossal Spoons
07-11-2011, 08:51 PM
Spoons did you try that sample I sent you? I was gonna scan the photo I sent you but I forgot. At least I got him to personalize it :up:

Do WORK

Not yet, I do have some from that company though. I like it.

ComicChick
07-11-2011, 09:02 PM
just bagged up a bunch of clothes that no longer fit that i'm gonna donate tomorrow :up:

ComicChick
07-11-2011, 10:30 PM
also really proud of this:

Since January my weight loss percentage is 9.49%. I'm really proud of that

TerryMcGinnis
07-12-2011, 03:42 AM
It sounds like maybe the cartilidge separated from the rib. That's happened to me before. Unfortunately, the only way to fix that is to wait.

Yeah, could be, because it's definitely not a broken or dislocated rib as I've heard these hurt like a mother and I'm not really experiencing much pain at all. I'll just have to adjust my training accordingly, gonna do pretty much isolation work for a week or so (HATE IT), to not overly compress or decompress the torso. A week without deadlifts and weighted chinups is a ****** week indeed.

Thanks for the insight :cwink:

teh Puffy
07-13-2011, 12:03 AM
Just did a mild workout durring the day came home rest. Made homemade soup. Then ran some basketball some balance excersies sauna, came home did Power90 UML. Awesome day. I feel so tired and wonderful. Body loves working out now.

ComicChick
07-13-2011, 05:44 PM
i busted down about 8 pallets today and 12 yesterday by myself :up:

felt good while doing it, super sore now haha

Scarlet spidey
07-14-2011, 07:31 PM
Anyone here do keto for weight loss?

Colossal Spoons
07-14-2011, 10:04 PM
I've never done it, but I know a decent amount about it. I never pulled the trigger b/c the meals looked boring. I can only take so much meat and cheese. And the bad breath ain't cool either.

Scarlet spidey
07-15-2011, 08:09 PM
I've never done it, but I know a decent amount about it. I never pulled the trigger b/c the meals looked boring. I can only take so much meat and cheese. And the bad breath ain't cool either.
It's actually pretty nice. There's a lot more to it than just meat and cheese. You can also have eggs! ;) I've been on it for about 2 months, I've been able to mix things up enough to keep it interesting, only had one cheat "weekend" so far. Haven't had bad breath as far as I know. I've had some pretty good results so far.

BAH HUMBBUG!
07-16-2011, 01:20 AM
Hey all - please help in any way you can. My friend is missing, here is the link to the thread I created with more info in it.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=359435

If any advice, info can be offered or if anyone knows any connections or can just pass the message along or join the group it would be greatly appreciated!

WildcatNC
07-16-2011, 01:44 AM
It's actually pretty nice. There's a lot more to it than just meat and cheese. You can also have eggs! ;) I've been on it for about 2 months, I've been able to mix things up enough to keep it interesting, only had one cheat "weekend" so far. Haven't had bad breath as far as I know. I've had some pretty good results so far.


I am Paleo. Have been for about 5 months. Have pretty effortlessly lost 40 lbs in that time frame. I'm not really worried about Ketosis, it just happens as a result of eating right. Works like mad though.

Scarlet spidey
07-16-2011, 01:47 AM
I am Paleo. Have been for about 5 months. Have pretty effortlessly lost 40 lbs in that time frame. I'm not really worried about Ketosis, it just happens as a result of eating right. Works like mad though.
I'm basically the same story as you. Lost 30 in a month, I think I'm on the verge of 40+ by now. Hardly any work or exercise done in the time too. It's pretty spectacular.

WildcatNC
07-16-2011, 02:32 AM
I'm basically the same story as you. Lost 30 in a month, I think I'm on the verge of 40+ by now. Hardly any work or exercise done in the time too. It's pretty spectacular.

Yea, I became a Paleo-evangelist after just a short while. :woot:

Wish I had done this years ago.

Scarlet spidey
07-16-2011, 02:34 AM
Yea, I became a Paleo-evangelist after just a short while. :woot:

Wish I had done this years ago.
Haha same here. I've been trying to get others to do it, so far I haven't been successful though! :csad:

WillardNation
07-16-2011, 04:01 AM
Yea, I became a Paleo-evangelist after just a short while. :woot:

Wish I had done this years ago.
:up:

Although I have a confession: I've been stress eating like a mother****er. I've been totally strict except for the end of the day when I get really upset and justify eatind 3 whole foods cookies. :(

Scarlet spidey
07-16-2011, 09:47 PM
:up:

Although I have a confession: I've been stress eating like a mother****er. I've been totally strict except for the end of the day when I get really upset and justify eatind 3 whole foods cookies. :(
Stuff happens. Just get back to it, you'll be fine.:yay:

WildcatNC
07-17-2011, 12:34 AM
:up:

Although I have a confession: I've been stress eating like a mother****er. I've been totally strict except for the end of the day when I get really upset and justify eatind 3 whole foods cookies. :(


I never cheat with sugar really. I overdue Dairy and eat stuff cooked in questionable oils but thats about it. I had some bacon cheese fries last weekend, I just had to lol. I'll have some dark chocolate everynow and then, 85%. Thats about it.

Cool thing about Paleo is that once your body is adjusted to using fats you can cheat and then just go to sleep, wake up, and start eating right again and you don't really miss a beat. You really have to keep at it to derail yourself.

WildcatNC
07-17-2011, 12:36 AM
Haha same here. I've been trying to get others to do it, so far I haven't been successful though! :csad:

Yea. I announce the wonders to anyone who remotely mentions diet. :woot:

None have converted yet though.

Scarlet spidey
07-17-2011, 01:13 AM
Yea. I announce the wonders to anyone who remotely mentions diet. :woot:

None have converted yet though.
Haha, someday..
I suspect in a few months some of my friends will really start to warm up to it though.

mrvlknight21
07-18-2011, 02:42 PM
Alright Paleo followers (scarlet spidey, Wildcat NC and Willardnation). I need your opinion.


I tried to go completely Paleo last week. By the end of day 2 and throughout day 3 I felt tired. Not just tired like no energy, but actually sleepy. I didnt want to work out, I was ready to go to sleep right when I got home (at 5:30pm), etc etc.

Obviously this is a problem. So my questions are...did you experience this? How long did it last? Any suggestions for preventing this?

Thanks!

WillardNation
07-18-2011, 03:04 PM
The first couple weeks, I ate A LOT more. I was constantly snacking on something. I think it's cuz the calories don't equate. It takes a lot of lean meat and vegetables to get the same amount of calories from breads and ****. It went away after a couple of weeks though. I know the first time I tried paleo, I felt like that because I wasn't eating enough. So I would recommend eating more. Stuff your face, bro; can't eat too much broccoli :woot:

mrvlknight21
07-18-2011, 03:30 PM
Yeah, Im not digging the broccoli train too much.

I thought maybe if I eased into it and just had bread with ONE meal per day for a few days/1 week, it might be easier.

Cobblepot
07-18-2011, 03:33 PM
I miss the old weights, after my son was born (2010) and I bought a new home in 2008 I got lazy.
I still do a lot of push-ups and pullups to maintain my core physic but it's not enough though...

Here's a pic from 2009:

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vi33bn.jpg

mrvlknight21
07-18-2011, 03:44 PM
I miss the old weights, after my son was born (2010) and I bought a new home in 2008 I got lazy.
I still do a lot of push-ups and pullups to maintain my core physic but it's not enough though...

Here's a pic from 2009:

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vi33bn.jpg

What ya pushing in that pic?

Also...looks like you need to BREATHE.

ComicChick
07-18-2011, 10:19 PM
i'm not ready to convert to Paleo fully yet, but this week i'm going to focus on making sure i eat less bread and starchy items, and i've already been cutting down on the processed foods i eat.

for those who do paleo, what are the best things to avoid or try to cut out of my diet asap? which were the hardest for you?

Cobblepot
07-18-2011, 11:45 PM
What ya pushing in that pic?

Also...looks like you need to BREATHE.

I breath good enough not to make my lungs explode. But I do need to watch that better though.
Not sure what I'm pressing here but I used to press 92 pounds a dumbell, and 245 pounds benchpress (6 times)

Colossal Spoons
07-19-2011, 12:22 AM
Not sure what I'm pressing here but I used to press 92 pounds a dumbell, and 245 pounds benchpress (6 times)

Good job man

WildcatNC
07-19-2011, 01:38 AM
Alright Paleo followers (scarlet spidey, Wildcat NC and Willardnation). I need your opinion.


I tried to go completely Paleo last week. By the end of day 2 and throughout day 3 I felt tired. Not just tired like no energy, but actually sleepy. I didnt want to work out, I was ready to go to sleep right when I got home (at 5:30pm), etc etc.

Obviously this is a problem. So my questions are...did you experience this? How long did it last? Any suggestions for preventing this?

Thanks!

Sounds like your body is being stubborn in switching fuel preferences. It will pass in a few days.

By day 3 my energy was through the roof but it differs. Your body has to switch over its energy priorities from sugar/carb to fat/protein. It can take a little while. Should last no more than 3 to 7 days where your energy and hunger levels will fluctuate a bit. Once your body realizes whats going on, it will respond in kind.

Are you calculating and hitting your macro's? The reason I ask is that since your not getting a bunch of quick highs from sugar/carbs, its important to eat enough calories/fat/protein for your body to use as fuel. Remember to eat approximately .7 to 1 gram of protein per lb of lean body mass. Keep your Carbs around the 50-75 grams or less a day range (my preference). The rest should be fat. Remember that fat has 9 cal per gram so a little goes a long way. I eat almost 1000 fat calories a day. Its the easiest way to hit your calorie level. Once you crunch the numbers for a few weeks it will become effortless. You will just know what you need to eat. It will also be less important to worry about numbers once your body kicks into paleo-mode. It can be easy to eat to little though.

If your body is used to being full of soda/sugar/caffeine all day then it can struggle with energy levels for a week or less while adjusting.



i'm not ready to convert to Paleo fully yet, but this week i'm going to focus on making sure i eat less bread and starchy items, and i've already been cutting down on the processed foods i eat.

for those who do paleo, what are the best things to avoid or try to cut out of my diet asap? which were the hardest for you?

Sugar, asap.

Cut out ALL sugar water, completely. Including fruit juice. Cut out all high fructose corn syrup (you'll be surprised what its in). According to your goals you should moderate fruits also, especially the high glyc. variety.

The next priority should be grains. All of them (including corn and all derivatives) If you HAVE to eat them then stick to wild rice or sushi.

If you can do those two thats 90% of the battle. The rest is cake (no pun indended :woot:)

The hardest thing for me was giving up Pasta and Soda. I didn't drink a ton of soda but really enjoyed it with my meals or after work. I LOVE italian food also. Mac n Cheese is a favorite too. I might indulge occasionally when I reach my weight goals (no soda, just a little pasta/rice every now and then. I'm trying to lose aggressively right now so i'm not messing with it. I'll see.

Overall I have NO desire to go back to eating like I did. Most people who i have talked to who made the paleo transition say the same. If you make it past a month or so and see how you feel, its hard to go back.

Cobblepot
07-19-2011, 12:41 PM
Good job man

Those were my max weights, I could only do them with a good training partner. You can't really push your limits without a training partner, and I always try and find someone who's a bit stronger than me. Just for the challenge and beating plateaus faster.

A lot of it is mind over body.

mrvlknight21
07-19-2011, 01:11 PM
I breath good enough not to make my lungs explode. But I do need to watch that better though.
Not sure what I'm pressing here but I used to press 92 pounds a dumbell, and 245 pounds benchpress (6 times)

Good work. If you did it before you can get there again. IF the breathing is indeed a mistake, it could be holding you back and you are likely capable of lifting more.


Sounds like your body is being stubborn in switching fuel preferences. It will pass in a few days.

By day 3 my energy was through the roof but it differs. Your body has to switch over its energy priorities from sugar/carb to fat/protein. It can take a little while. Should last no more than 3 to 7 days where your energy and hunger levels will fluctuate a bit. Once your body realizes whats going on, it will respond in kind.

Are you calculating and hitting your macro's? The reason I ask is that since your not getting a bunch of quick highs from sugar/carbs, its important to eat enough calories/fat/protein for your body to use as fuel. Remember to eat approximately .7 to 1 gram of protein per lb of lean body mass. Keep your Carbs around the 50-75 grams or less a day range (my preference). The rest should be fat. Remember that fat has 9 cal per gram so a little goes a long way. I eat almost 1000 fat calories a day. Its the easiest way to hit your calorie level. Once you crunch the numbers for a few weeks it will become effortless. You will just know what you need to eat. It will also be less important to worry about numbers once your body kicks into paleo-mode. It can be easy to eat to little though.

If your body is used to being full of soda/sugar/caffeine all day then it can struggle with energy levels for a week or less while adjusting.


I didnt think I needed to track things very closely with Paleo. Regardless, I was on point with the protein (which was really the only thing I was tracking).

Best fat sources?
I know about olive oil and avacado....but apparently I need some more.
http://paleodietlifestyle.com/paleo-fats/

Just read about coconut oil...how would I incorporate that? Soak some chicken breasts in it before grilling?

TerryMcGinnis
07-19-2011, 01:29 PM
You could try fattier meats. On rest days I intuitively eat very close to the Paleo/Primal guidelines, except for the dairy, I'm a cottage cheese fiend. If you buy cuts of pork or beef that aren't super lean you'll have an easier time getting the fat in.

ComicChick
07-19-2011, 02:23 PM
Sounds like your body is being stubborn in switching fuel preferences. It will pass in a few days.

By day 3 my energy was through the roof but it differs. Your body has to switch over its energy priorities from sugar/carb to fat/protein. It can take a little while. Should last no more than 3 to 7 days where your energy and hunger levels will fluctuate a bit. Once your body realizes whats going on, it will respond in kind.

Are you calculating and hitting your macro's? The reason I ask is that since your not getting a bunch of quick highs from sugar/carbs, its important to eat enough calories/fat/protein for your body to use as fuel. Remember to eat approximately .7 to 1 gram of protein per lb of lean body mass. Keep your Carbs around the 50-75 grams or less a day range (my preference). The rest should be fat. Remember that fat has 9 cal per gram so a little goes a long way. I eat almost 1000 fat calories a day. Its the easiest way to hit your calorie level. Once you crunch the numbers for a few weeks it will become effortless. You will just know what you need to eat. It will also be less important to worry about numbers once your body kicks into paleo-mode. It can be easy to eat to little though.

If your body is used to being full of soda/sugar/caffeine all day then it can struggle with energy levels for a week or less while adjusting.





Sugar, asap.

Cut out ALL sugar water, completely. Including fruit juice. Cut out all high fructose corn syrup (you'll be surprised what its in). According to your goals you should moderate fruits also, especially the high glyc. variety.

The next priority should be grains. All of them (including corn and all derivatives) If you HAVE to eat them then stick to wild rice or sushi.

If you can do those two thats 90% of the battle. The rest is cake (no pun indended :woot:)

The hardest thing for me was giving up Pasta and Soda. I didn't drink a ton of soda but really enjoyed it with my meals or after work. I LOVE italian food also. Mac n Cheese is a favorite too. I might indulge occasionally when I reach my weight goals (no soda, just a little pasta/rice every now and then. I'm trying to lose aggressively right now so i'm not messing with it. I'll see.

Overall I have NO desire to go back to eating like I did. Most people who i have talked to who made the paleo transition say the same. If you make it past a month or so and see how you feel, its hard to go back.

thanks for answering :up:

i don't drink and sodas or juices as it is. 90 percent of the time I'm drinking straight up water. I even can drink water hot (not a preference lol) the other 10 percent consists of propel, sweet tea (southern yall) and milk which i hardly ever drink.

i think beverages are by far the easiest for me to avoid.

sugary fruits aren't really a problem. the only fruits i eat regularly are bananas and the occasional orange. i honestly don't eat fruits much but i eat vegetables all the time.

grains and pasta will definitely be the hardest for me but I do believe i can easily cut down my intake of them.

Cobblepot
07-19-2011, 02:33 PM
Good work. If you did it before you can get there again. IF the breathing is indeed a mistake, it could be holding you back and you are likely capable of lifting more.



Hmm you think? I have great difficulty doing reps, breathing and counting all at the same time. Sounds stupid, I'm a pretty smart guy but doing those three things is just hard when focussing on the weight and movement. I always maintain strict form and only cheat on the last reps if nec.
I might look into that, would be nice to add a few pounds on the the bar.

mrvlknight21
07-19-2011, 02:50 PM
Hmm you think? I have great difficulty doing reps, breathing and counting all at the same time. Sounds stupid, I'm a pretty smart guy but doing those three things is just hard when focussing on the weight and movement. I always maintain strict form and only cheat on the last reps if nec.
I might look into that, would be nice to add a few pounds on the the bar.

Hold your breath, tense up and try to do anything for more than a few seconds, particularly something where you exert energy (walking up stairs, etc).

Now compare that to doing it while breathing.



Edit: Honestly, your head looks like its ready to explode in that pic. Your mouth is shut and your face is completely red. Clearly, you are holding your breath and tensing up as a result of it. This uses more energy and oxygen.

Cobblepot
07-19-2011, 02:52 PM
Thats true, funny I never thought about that.

mrvlknight21
07-19-2011, 02:54 PM
Also you can combine the breathing and counting, so that helps simplify matters.
Say the rep number outloud as you exhale. Press up..as you exhale, say the rep, inhale on the return.

This type of thing is the same reason the military does their chants while marching and/or running. If they are speaking/singing/whatever...then they are breathing. Less likely to get tired as quickly, or fall out.

Colossal Spoons
07-19-2011, 02:59 PM
This type of thing is the same reason the military does their chants while marching and/or running. If they are speaking/singing/whatever...then they are breathing. Less likely to get tired as quickly, or fall out.

Never knew this

mrvlknight21
07-19-2011, 03:01 PM
Never knew this

Plus it is a distraction of sorts. Something to keep the mind occupied in those later miles when you are bored and tired.....pretty much the same reason most people run with ipods.

Colossal Spoons
07-19-2011, 03:02 PM
Makes sense, must still suck running at the crack of dawn in the army though lol

mrvlknight21
07-19-2011, 03:07 PM
Makes sense, must still suck running at the crack of dawn in the army though lol

Dang right.
We did the same thing in one of the police academies I went to. We had our own chants and such, and yes, it was at 5:30am.

LOBO3315a
07-19-2011, 03:58 PM
5:30? Ya'll were at it late. 4 AM in Basic Training. At 5:30, we were finishing up, and heading for the showers!

ComicChick
07-19-2011, 04:05 PM
at 4am i was asleep

:rimshot:

mrvlknight21
07-19-2011, 04:10 PM
5:30? Ya'll were at it late. 4 AM in Basic Training. At 5:30, we were finishing up, and heading for the showers!

Which is why I chose law enforcement over military.
:oldrazz:

WildcatNC
07-20-2011, 01:18 AM
Good work. If you did it before you can get there again. IF the breathing is indeed a mistake, it could be holding you back and you are likely capable of lifting more.




I didnt think I needed to track things very closely with Paleo. Regardless, I was on point with the protein (which was really the only thing I was tracking).

Best fat sources?
I know about olive oil and avacado....but apparently I need some more.
http://paleodietlifestyle.com/paleo-fats/

Just read about coconut oil...how would I incorporate that? Soak some chicken breasts in it before grilling?


No you don't have to if you don't want. I just suggested it for a few weeks to get a good feel for your needs. It helps. You may find yourself eating to little calories, hence the tiredness.


Coconut oil is awesome. I use it to cook all my fish with. You can also just take it by the tablespoon if you need more fat. I also baste my chicken with it sometimes before baking or grilling.

I don't know if you want to avoid dairy or not but heavy cream (full fat) and butter are also a good way to get fat. I just moderate dairy, keep it to a minimum. I still cook with butter and use heavy cream with my coffee. Helps me meet my fat needs. Nut butters/oils are also good. I also eat about 4-5 avacodos a week and lots of olive oil too. Coconut milk can also be great, just make sure its not the sugar bomb kind.

Also, eat lots of bacon. Shouldn't be hard, its awesome. Try to get the peppered rather than the super maple sugar stuff or with solutions.

My average breakfast is:

-3 or 4 scrambled eggs w/mixed peppers, mushrooms, 1 tablespoon of extra sharp aged cheddar.

-3 or 4 pieces of bacon/sausage or a mix thereof.

-Whole Avocado with cilantro and lime.

-1 to 2 cups (literal cups, not full mugs) of coffee with 1-2 tablespoons of heavy cream.

I'm often almost halfway where I need to be after breakfast in all areas. Usually only protein is a little low.


Sometimes I make protein shakes with berries, coconut oil (for fat), and organic whole milk. Sometimes with 2 tablespoons of almond butter, a half banana, or any combination thereof. You can also add heavy cream to alot of these kinds of drinks to get the fat content up to where you need it. It doesn't take much at all. Just make sure its good fats (no franken-fats and veg/corn oils) and organic preferably.

WildcatNC
07-20-2011, 01:29 AM
thanks for answering :up:

i don't drink and sodas or juices as it is. 90 percent of the time I'm drinking straight up water. I even can drink water hot (not a preference lol) the other 10 percent consists of propel, sweet tea (southern yall) and milk which i hardly ever drink.

i think beverages are by far the easiest for me to avoid.

sugary fruits aren't really a problem. the only fruits i eat regularly are bananas and the occasional orange. i honestly don't eat fruits much but i eat vegetables all the time.

grains and pasta will definitely be the hardest for me but I do believe i can easily cut down my intake of them.


A good way to think of food is how your body breaks down and uses it. For the most part, carbs and sugar are the same thing. If a food causes an insulin spike, it might as well be sugar. Though your not actually following it really, the Glycemic index is a good tool if your getting started. It tells you what foods pretty much mimic the insulin response that sugar causes, which is what makes you store, rather than burn, fat.

Just remember that your body prefers quick energy like sugars and carbs and will almost always burn them first, especially if its used to it. So if you want your body to be burning fat, then everything you eat that simulates a sugar response postpones and curtails it. It takes less than you might think to sabotage yourself.

Barrington
07-20-2011, 03:21 AM
Hey everybody. It's been a minute since I've been here. Used to have the name Bboy. Back again. Hope everyone's doing great!

mrvlknight21
07-20-2011, 08:20 AM
No you don't have to if you don't want. I just suggested it for a few weeks to get a good feel for your needs. It helps. You may find yourself eating to little calories, hence the tiredness.


Coconut oil is awesome. I use it to cook all my fish with. You can also just take it by the tablespoon if you need more fat. I also baste my chicken with it sometimes before baking or grilling.

I don't know if you want to avoid dairy or not but heavy cream (full fat) and butter are also a good way to get fat. I just moderate dairy, keep it to a minimum. I still cook with butter and use heavy cream with my coffee. Helps me meet my fat needs. Nut butters/oils are also good. I also eat about 4-5 avacodos a week and lots of olive oil too. Coconut milk can also be great, just make sure its not the sugar bomb kind.

Also, eat lots of bacon. Shouldn't be hard, its awesome. Try to get the peppered rather than the super maple sugar stuff or with solutions.

My average breakfast is:

-3 or 4 scrambled eggs w/mixed peppers, mushrooms, 1 tablespoon of extra sharp aged cheddar.

-3 or 4 pieces of bacon/sausage or a mix thereof.

-Whole Avocado with cilantro and lime.

-1 to 2 cups (literal cups, not full mugs) of coffee with 1-2 tablespoons of heavy cream.

I'm often almost halfway where I need to be after breakfast in all areas. Usually only protein is a little low.


Sometimes I make protein shakes with berries, coconut oil (for fat), and organic whole milk. Sometimes with 2 tablespoons of almond butter, a half banana, or any combination thereof. You can also add heavy cream to alot of these kinds of drinks to get the fat content up to where you need it. It doesn't take much at all. Just make sure its good fats (no franken-fats and veg/corn oils) and organic preferably.

Im kind of surprised to hear all of the pro-bacon talk.

I appreciate the protein shake advice as well. I was just about to ask for something like that.

Im still taking all this in. I would like to actually start as prescribed this week.

TerryMcGinnis
07-20-2011, 09:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByfO4tIzcSs

Not for the faint of heart.

WildcatNC
07-20-2011, 10:51 AM
Im kind of surprised to hear all of the pro-bacon talk.

I appreciate the protein shake advice as well. I was just about to ask for something like that.

Im still taking all this in. I would like to actually start as prescribed this week.



Bacon :up:


If its an animal product, vegatable, fruit, nut, seed then its good, so bacon is kosher (see what I did there). Its actually better to eat lean cuts of meat and get your fat elswhere if its conventional meat. The fat normally holds all the poison/hormones/crap that conventional food normally has in it.

If your already in pretty good shape then enjoy fruits in abundance. Some Paleo people swear off dairy and they can technically have a point, but if you keep it to a minimum I see no harm in it and have experienced great success eating some dairy. If you want to lose weight aggressively then cut dairy and fruits to a minimum.

Something that helped me is to come up with about 5 different meals that I really liked for Paleo and use only them the first 2 weeks, with protein shakes and slight variations. If you use heavy whipping cream in your protein shake it can thicken it when blended into a good MRS also. I put blue, black, and rasberries in there normally.

Oh, stay away from Peanut Butter. Its a Legume, not a nut. Use Almond butter. It tastes better too, but is more expensive.

I normally often moderate potatoes as well. They are technically ok just not in abundance. They are still starchy carbs. Stick to sweet potatoes, especially on workout days when you need more calories and your carbs are low you can have a big sweet potato with butter, sour cream, bacon, cinnaemon, and a big steak.

Another good trick is instead of mashed potatoes, steam cauliflower and mash it up just like a potato, then top with Paleo friendly toppings.

I can't think of much more at the moment but if you have any questions just ask.

mrvlknight21
07-20-2011, 11:34 AM
Bacon :up:


If its an animal product, vegatable, fruit, nut, seed then its good, so bacon is kosher (see what I did there). Its actually better to eat lean cuts of meat and get your fat elswhere if its conventional meat. The fat normally holds all the poison/hormones/crap that conventional food normally has in it.

If your already in pretty good shape then enjoy fruits in abundance. Some Paleo people swear off dairy and they can technically have a point, but if you keep it to a minimum I see no harm in it and have experienced great success eating some dairy. If you want to lose weight aggressively then cut dairy and fruits to a minimum.

Something that helped me is to come up with about 5 different meals that I really liked for Paleo and use only them the first 2 weeks, with protein shakes and slight variations. If you use heavy whipping cream in your protein shake it can thicken it when blended into a good MRS also. I put blue, black, and rasberries in there normally.

Oh, stay away from Peanut Butter. Its a Legume, not a nut. Use Almond butter. It tastes better too, but is more expensive.

I normally often moderate potatoes as well. They are technically ok just not in abundance. They are still starchy carbs. Stick to sweet potatoes, especially on workout days when you need more calories and your carbs are low you can have a big sweet potato with butter, sour cream, bacon, cinnaemon, and a big steak.

Another good trick is instead of mashed potatoes, steam cauliflower and mash it up just like a potato, then top with Paleo friendly toppings.

I can't think of much more at the moment but if you have any questions just ask.

Yeah, I just bought some Almond Butter...its damn expensive. I havent tried it yet, but am sure that I will like it.
Im not a picky eater, so the main things for me will be #1 dropping the sweets (sweet tea and desserts) , #2 buying and cooking enough meat and #3 making sure I get veggies in there.

The main carb that I will miss is simply bread. I eat sandwiches often because they are so common. I dont eat a lot of potatoes or pasta.

THANKS for all the assistance and suggestions so far. I am studying all this closely.

Mandalore464
07-20-2011, 12:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByfO4tIzcSs

Not for the faint of heart.

By the power of grayskull... The heart-attack sandwich is born.

Manic
07-20-2011, 12:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByfO4tIzcSs

Not for the faint of heart.

Funny, he doesn't look remotely like Paula Deen, yet the recipe is uncanny!

TerryMcGinnis
07-20-2011, 03:47 PM
Furious Pete is alright, he's used to be anorexic as a kid, to the point that he almost died. He made a full recovery once he started lifting weights, and changing his attitude towards food obviously. Now he's a competitive eater and I think a spokesperson for BB.com

Most importantly, he has some mouth watering food vids on his youtube channel ;)

Colossal Spoons
07-20-2011, 04:20 PM
Yeah, he's a regular Miscer

ComicChick
07-20-2011, 05:01 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/11j7mfn.jpg

i think i'll pick some of this almond butter up friday. man it is expensive though

Manic
07-20-2011, 05:05 PM
Ah, I see your store stocks its almond butter right between the peanut butter and the Pure Chocolate Cream In A Jar That Insists It's Mostly Hazelnut. :cmad:

ComicChick
07-20-2011, 07:04 PM
the organics are on the top shelf? :huh:

im sorry manic.

WildcatNC
07-20-2011, 10:14 PM
I have to restrain myself from eating half the jar of Almond butter sometimes. Its really good. I gotta admit, I do miss my Almond butter and Nutella sandwiches on oatnut whole grain bread. No bread and there is just WAY to much sugar in Nutella.

WillardNation
07-20-2011, 10:59 PM
If your store has one of those machines that grinds the almonds right there, that is waaaaay better than the jar stuff. Cheaper too, I think. Sunbutter is also really good.

ComicChick
07-20-2011, 11:05 PM
we sell sunbutter but i've never tried it. will have to look out for it

Colossal Spoons
07-20-2011, 11:24 PM
If your store has one of those machines that grinds the almonds right there, that is waaaaay better than the jar stuff. Cheaper too, I think. Sunbutter is also really good.

This

WildcatNC
07-21-2011, 02:00 AM
If your store has one of those machines that grinds the almonds right there, that is waaaaay better than the jar stuff. Cheaper too, I think. Sunbutter is also really good.

I'm in a general ****hole area. I'm lucky to be able to find organic greens and fruits, let alone anything like that.

If I ever come across it I will get it. Hmm. Maybe I should just make my own.

Colossal Spoons
07-21-2011, 02:50 AM
Chris Evans comments on his training/dieting for Cap

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/captain-americas-chris-evans-i-213415

gohei_
07-21-2011, 02:51 AM
So today I will go to the gym with a buddy of mine and help him get started with a new routine, and I haven't trained with weights in several years so this should be interesting.

Manic
07-21-2011, 11:55 AM
Oh, **** this. I just bought a new belt about a month ago, and now it's slightly too big to hold up my pants. I've also got a surplus of XXXL t-shirts that I can't use and no money to buy more clothes. I might just gain my weight back out of sheer frugality. :cmad:



I'm not really serious, but I refuse to feel good about myself for losing weight because I'm no good to anyone happy.

WildcatNC
07-21-2011, 12:25 PM
Other tips for the Paleo starters.

Carry Paleo food with you when you leave the house. Hunger equals lower food standards. A bag of mixed nuts, an orange, or.......

Learn to love canned tuna. Get the 4 oz can of tuna in extra virgin olive oil. Its like a whole meal in a can. If i'm ever in a hurry I can grab one with a plastic fork and i'm good to go for awhile. Salt, pepper, garlic, rosemary, etc if you need to.

If you have a bad sweet tooth: Besides almond butter or fruits, make yourself a whipped cream treat. Use the heavy whipping cream (full fat) that you should have already and whip it up yourself. Throw in mixed berries, almonds/walnuts, and real coconut flakes. Sometimes i'll put a little feta or cottage cheese in there. Add Cinn. or different spices if you like. A little Chai mixture with the cream (not the heavy sugar kind) is really great also. Or just mix the coconut milk with the cream rather than the flakes.

Mary Jane Watson
07-21-2011, 12:40 PM
Hiya, I'm really interested in starting cross-fit. Any good website or good tips?

gohei_
07-21-2011, 12:43 PM
I guess the best thing is to try and find a crossfit gym in your area.

Mary Jane Watson
07-21-2011, 01:10 PM
I guess the best thing is to try and find a crossfit gym in your area.


I never have thought that one before. Okay I will check it out tonight. Thanks.

mrvlknight21
07-21-2011, 01:12 PM
Other tips for the Paleo starters.

Carry Paleo food with you when you leave the house. Hunger equals lower food standards. A bag of mixed nuts, an orange, or.......

Learn to love canned tuna. Get the 4 oz can of tuna in extra virgin olive oil. Its like a whole meal in a can. If i'm ever in a hurry I can grab one with a plastic fork and i'm good to go for awhile. Salt, pepper, garlic, rosemary, etc if you need to.

If you have a bad sweet tooth: Besides almond butter or fruits, make yourself a whipped cream treat. Use the heavy whipping cream (full fat) that you should have already and whip it up yourself. Throw in mixed berries, almonds/walnuts, and real coconut flakes. Sometimes i'll put a little feta or cottage cheese in there. Add Cinn. or different spices if you like. A little Chai mixture with the cream (not the heavy sugar kind) is really great also. Or just mix the coconut milk with the cream rather than the flakes.


Im with you on canned tuna. I can eat it every day and yes, the best stuff comes in olive oil.
Not sure about all this "whipping cream" business.


Hiya, I'm really interested in starting cross-fit. Any good website or good tips?

www.crossfit.com

www.google.com (to find a crossfit gym near you).

Willardnation does/teaches crossfit.


I guess the best thing is to try and find a crossfit gym in your area.

^ this.

Scarlet spidey
07-21-2011, 05:07 PM
Alright Paleo followers (scarlet spidey, Wildcat NC and Willardnation). I need your opinion.


I tried to go completely Paleo last week. By the end of day 2 and throughout day 3 I felt tired. Not just tired like no energy, but actually sleepy. I didnt want to work out, I was ready to go to sleep right when I got home (at 5:30pm), etc etc.

Obviously this is a problem. So my questions are...did you experience this? How long did it last? Any suggestions for preventing this?

Thanks!
I can't quite speak for Paleo, since Keto is a bit different, but when your body is going into ketosis you feel pretty crappy for a while. It's called keto flu, it can last anywhere between a few hours, to a few weeks. I got lucky and it was like 2 hours for me.

DV8
07-21-2011, 05:11 PM
who knows what would be the best diet to follow to lean down: high protein and fat; or minimal protein and fat (mostly veggies; eggs, nuts)?

Colossal Spoons
07-21-2011, 05:37 PM
Assuming your calories are in a deficit, you'll lose weight on both "diets" but the latter will be at the expense of what muscle you have.

DV8
07-21-2011, 05:40 PM
Assuming your calories are in a deficit, you'll lose weight on both "diets" but the latter will be at the expense of what muscle you have.

so I should keep more protein than not in there huh? I'm trying to get really "cut"; I'd like to lose about 10% more bodyfat, and I've been concentrating more on cardio but I sure don't wanna lose any strength or muscle

Colossal Spoons
07-21-2011, 05:47 PM
I'm cutting right now as well. I get my target protein requirement an make up the leftover calories in fruits and vegetables. Keep the carbs to specific times of day(breakfast and surrounding workouts). I don't do much cardio but I still lift heavy, you can do all the cardio you want though :up:

I'm one of the few people in this thread not on paleo, keto, or any other kind of structured eating program.

DV8
07-21-2011, 05:55 PM
I'm cutting right now as well. I get my target protein requirement an make up the leftover calories in fruits and vegetables. Keep the carbs to specific times of day(breakfast and surrounding workouts). I don't do much cardio but I still lift heavy, you can do all the cardio you want though :up:

I'm one of the few people in this thread not on paleo, keto, or any other kind of structured eating program.

I don't even know what those things mean Lol . . . I can venture a guess that keto has something to do with high protein low carb; anyway, maybe I will do ahead and make sure I'm eating enough protein (1g/lb) per day and just reduce my carbs to fruits and veggies w/ some grains and fiber

the cardio I been doing is pretty awesome; there's this crazy flight of wood stairs about 110 stairs high; very bouyant; and I do laps of those and hit some push ups at the top . . . KILLER w/o

Colossal Spoons
07-21-2011, 07:54 PM
Just remember to have a re-feed day if you're going low carb for an extended period of time. For your metabolism and sanity's sakes.

ComicChick
07-21-2011, 11:44 PM
Oh, **** this. I just bought a new belt about a month ago, and now it's slightly too big to hold up my pants. I've also got a surplus of XXXL t-shirts that I can't use and no money to buy more clothes. I might just gain my weight back out of sheer frugality. :cmad:



I'm not really serious, but I refuse to feel good about myself for losing weight because I'm no good to anyone happy.

do yall have a Plato's closet in the area?

it's basically a clothing store where you can bring in your old clothes and in return you get credit towards whatever you buy in return

mrvlknight21
07-22-2011, 07:33 AM
do yall have a Plato's closet in the area?

it's basically a clothing store where you can bring in your old clothes and in return you get credit towards whatever you buy in return

The Plato's closet here is very snobby/picky. If its not from THIS year and not Abercrombie.....good luck.

However, I do take clothes to consignment stores for cash from time to time.

Manic
07-22-2011, 03:47 PM
I'd never heard of Plato's. I just checked their website, and apparently the nearest one is in San Jose. That's a bit of a drive, but it's in the area.

WillardNation
07-22-2011, 07:19 PM
Hiya, I'm really interested in starting cross-fit. Any good website or good tips?
Follow the link mrvlknight posted to find an affiliate near you. Like he said, I'm a cf instructor and I'm also one of the operating managers of our gym so once you find a place, I'm more than happy to help you with any questions you have. Just know this; the price IS probably going to be higher than you're probably expecting but remember that it's worth it. If you have a few to pick from and don't know which one to choose, you can tell me what each one is like and I can help you pick the best one. Good luck! Once you get into it, you'll love it! It's addicting, for sure.

Colossal Spoons
07-22-2011, 07:27 PM
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8809/picture8vd.jpg

Weight loss is coming along slowly but surely. 10 more lbs and I'll be 199, then time to eat EVERYTHING. Oh yeah, mutton shops FTMFW.

And I'm kinda getting the urge to do something else w/ my body besides starve myself and pick things up and put them down. Either rugby or muay thai in my future.

ComicChick
07-22-2011, 07:29 PM
spoons you need that hawk back to go with the chops

Colossal Spoons
07-22-2011, 07:32 PM
What would the chops connect to? lol

ComicChick
07-22-2011, 07:39 PM
nothing haha

Colossal Spoons
07-22-2011, 07:43 PM
Haha, ridiculous

Heffer Wolf
07-22-2011, 07:56 PM
I've recently decided to stop being a fat ass and am trying to lose a good 40-60 pounds. I just have no idea what I'm doing. I started monday going down to the gym in my appartment complex and I have been doing 30 minutes on the treadmill a day. I am super poor because I am unemployed, so all I got to eat is a chicken breast, some rice and broccoli, and I usually only eat once a day because I'm just never hungry. I eat at about 5pm then around 3am (I'm a night owl) I start to get hungry again, but I just go to bed. Oh, and by poor I mean I litteraly have $40 to spend on food for 2 weeks (and I have been living like this for the better part of the year, so I've made it work). I figure once I start to get used to the whole treadmill thing, I might step it up to an hour, or jump on the bike for another half an hour, or something.

Anybody have any advice for me? I really have no idea how to lose weight or if I'm even doing anything right so far.

ComicChick
07-22-2011, 08:45 PM
kudos to you for trying to improve your lifestyle

have you applied for food stamps or assistance since you are unemployed?

WillardNation
07-22-2011, 08:59 PM
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8809/picture8vd.jpg

Weight loss is coming along slowly but surely. 10 more lbs and I'll be 199, then time to eat EVERYTHING. Oh yeah, mutton shops FTMFW.

And I'm kinda getting the urge to do something else w/ my body besides starve myself and pick things up and put them down. Either rugby or muay thai in my future.
Muay thai FTW :up:

War Party
07-23-2011, 02:59 PM
Haven't posted in here in a while, but I'm glad to report I'm 10 lbs. away from my 200 lb goal. When I started I was 265 lbs. and that was a year ago. So once I hit my goal, I'm going back to the weight room. So what kind of program do you suggest I start with or what are you guys doing? I haven't been in a weight room since I played football back in high school, so I'm a little out of the loop right now. I will also continue to run in between lifting days. I appreciate the help with this and also to thank you guys for your posts from over a year ago. I definitely used some of your suggestions before and there was a good advice. So thanks once again.

DV8
07-25-2011, 04:29 PM
Just remember to have a re-feed day if you're going low carb for an extended period of time. For your metabolism and sanity's sakes.

tight . . . what kinda routine are you doing Spoons? specifically, what weights and exercises have you been doing for chest, shoulders, arms?

Colossal Spoons
07-25-2011, 04:50 PM
tight . . . what kinda routine are you doing Spoons? specifically, what weights and exercises have you been doing for chest, shoulders, arms?

Chest - DB flat and incline bench press, BB flat bench press, DB incline flies

Shoulders - DB press, BB military press, facepulls, all variations of shrugs, DB lateral raises

I do biceps and triceps on diff days(same with quads and hamstrings actually) and I literally do every exercise you can think of. My arms respond well to just about anything but the only staples of my bi/tri routine are weighted dips and DB seated incline curls

DV8
07-26-2011, 01:41 PM
Chest - DB flat and incline bench press, BB flat bench press, DB incline flies

Shoulders - DB press, BB military press, facepulls, all variations of shrugs, DB lateral raises

I do biceps and triceps on diff days(same with quads and hamstrings actually) and I literally do every exercise you can think of. My arms respond well to just about anything but the only staples of my bi/tri routine are weighted dips and DB seated incline curls

word . . . how heavy are you lifting though? and how many reps? I'm just curious how beasty you are now lol

DV8
07-26-2011, 02:32 PM
is it physiologically IMPOSSIBLE for some people to get abs . . . weird question maybe, but I'm wondering if I will ever be able to get there

Colossal Spoons
07-26-2011, 02:33 PM
word . . . how heavy are you lifting though? and how many reps? I'm just curious how beasty you are now lol

As heavy as I can considering I'm only eating ~2K calories a day. I keep my reps between 6 and 10. I certainly don't think anybody seeing me work out these days would consider is "beastly"; def not compared to a year ago. But I'm also 25lbs lighter :p I did DB flat bench press 115x4 last week. Felt pretty good about that :o

TerryMcGinnis
07-26-2011, 03:13 PM
is it physiologically IMPOSSIBLE for some people to get abs . . . weird question maybe, but I'm wondering if I will ever be able to get there

Funny. You have abs, good abs, everyone has (even if they've never done a sit up or leg raise in their life), they're just covered by fat, several layers of fat in the case of most people. So to answer your question bluntly, NO, everyone is capable of getting lean enough to see a good set of abs.

Check this out:
http://www.leangains.com/p/my-transformation.html

WillardNation
07-26-2011, 10:20 PM
Toned abs are ALL diet.

LOBO3315a
07-27-2011, 06:45 AM
Yeah, I had the same issue: My abs were covered by 13 years of fat (Being married). Took about a year of eating a lot less, and working out to burn off the excess fat. Lo and behold, I had abs again!

Just stick with it! If I can do it, anyone can.

DV8
07-27-2011, 07:10 PM
thanks you guys have motivated me again lol I hate doing cardio, but I have been stepping it up in that department . . . I will need to get more consistent with my ab routine too

DV8
07-27-2011, 07:11 PM
As heavy as I can considering I'm only eating ~2K calories a day. I keep my reps between 6 and 10. I certainly don't think anybody seeing me work out these days would consider is "beastly"; def not compared to a year ago. But I'm also 25lbs lighter :p I did DB flat bench press 115x4 last week. Felt pretty good about that :o

that's BEASTY son! Lol

DV8
07-27-2011, 07:11 PM
Funny. You have abs, good abs, everyone has (even if they've never done a sit up or leg raise in their life), they're just covered by fat, several layers of fat in the case of most people. So to answer your question bluntly, NO, everyone is capable of getting lean enough to see a good set of abs.

Check this out:
http://www.leangains.com/p/my-transformation.html

This is real interesting . . . I think I'm going to learn more about this and start putting it into practice

Colossal Spoons
07-27-2011, 08:33 PM
that's BEASTY son! Lol

Well thank you, been at it a while lol

TerryMcGinnis
07-28-2011, 04:26 AM
thanks you guys have motivated me again lol I hate doing cardio, but I have been stepping it up in that department . . . I will need to get more consistent with my ab routine too

Heavy compound movements a couple of times a week combined with a sensible diet plan will do a hell of a lot more for your abs than cardio and direct abdominal work ever could.

WillardNation
07-28-2011, 10:12 AM
I HATE running. Gotta lose a few pounds for a jiu jitsu tournament this weekend so last night, after rolling, I got on the treadmill. I made it two miles before I couldn't take it anymore and decided 100 double unders would be less torture.

gohei_
07-28-2011, 10:17 AM
Well running on a treadmill is never fun. Even though running outside is a lot more hard it feels a lot better.

WillardNation
07-28-2011, 10:21 AM
Machine, outside, I hate it all.

Golgo-13
07-28-2011, 10:25 AM
First back week at Brazilian Jiu Jitsu this week; didn't realized how much i missed it until after class, on Monday. Today my core muscles are sore as all hell from rolling yesterday. I'm actually surprised at how intact my cardio is considering i've been off the mat for 8 months. It's not 100% like it was before i stopped training, but at least no white or blue belts out gassed me (i'm a purple belt)! That's speaks to the power of doing burpess with dumb bells, which i had been doing faithfully for the past two months. :up:

ComicChick
07-28-2011, 10:34 AM
so for those who remember, some friends and I were doing our own version of The Biggest Loser with the person losing the highest percentage of weight loss winning the money.

I came in second with 9.4%, losing to the winner who came in at 14.8% or something like that. third place was about 7.1% and I don't know how everyone else did.

i'm really proud of myself for knocking off almost 10% of my bodyweight in about 5 months.

now we're doing it again from Aug-October and I'm really focused on trying to win it this time, now that I know I can. Family reunion is coming up in the beginning of September so I'm going to try and lost 10lbs before then. Here we go :up:

gohei_
07-28-2011, 10:57 AM
That's not bad at all ComicChick, keep at it :up:

mrvlknight21
07-28-2011, 01:30 PM
Well running on a treadmill is never fun. Even though running outside is a lot more hard it feels a lot better.

Agreed 100%.


First back week at Brazilian Jiu Jitsu this week; didn't realized how much i missed it until after class, on Monday. Today my core muscles are sore as all hell from rolling yesterday. I'm actually surprised at how intact my cardio is considering i've been off the mat for 8 months. It's not 100% like it was before i stopped training, but at least no white or blue belts out gassed me (i'm a purple belt)! That's speaks to the power of doing burpess with dumb bells, which i had been doing faithfully for the past two months. :up:

Awesome. We are supposed to grapple tonight. Its about time. I havent been there for a grappling class since March or April!

Love your effort with the burpees!


so for those who remember, some friends and I were doing our own version of The Biggest Loser with the person losing the highest percentage of weight loss winning the money.

I came in second with 9.4%, losing to the winner who came in at 14.8% or something like that. third place was about 7.1% and I don't know how everyone else did.

i'm really proud of myself for knocking off almost 10% of my bodyweight in about 5 months.

now we're doing it again from Aug-October and I'm really focused on trying to win it this time, now that I know I can. Family reunion is coming up in the beginning of September so I'm going to try and lost 10lbs before then. Here we go :up:

Awesome work CC! Im very proud.