Sebastian Shaw ageless? like wolverine?

[bhayes]

i can't remember. do they explain why shaw is older in the concentration camp scenes and younger in the other scenes.

[Specter313]

It all has to do with the energy he absorbs. He can channel it different ways, one of it being keeping himself young.

[Lord Blackbolt]

If they do a sequel I hope they reveal Mr Sinister had a hand in helping Shaw out.

[SuperSoldier985]

I love it when people miss things in a movie.

"Keeps me young..."

[Silvermoth]

well, when you reach maximum level you no longer get older.

[FilmNerdJamie]

I've always interpreted it in the earlier films that mutants as a whole have longer life-spans because of their powers.

When you think about Magneto, he was a little kid in the beginning of X-Men and First Class (around 11/12). Yet the films are set in the not-too-distant future and even as old men him and Xavier are powerful despite their age.

[chaseter]

I love it when people miss things in a movie.

"Keeps me young..."

Most of the complaints and questions in here are by people who don't watch the movie.

[Spider-Fan83]

this could just be the way I interpreted it (an I might be way off based, here)

but, I was kinda under the impression that he didn't start out as a mutant (when we first see him as dr. schmidt) but, used what he learned from experimenting on young Erik, to give himself his abilities

[SuperFerret]

Did he look older in the concentration camp, or was it all a moustache?

[piccolo]

He looked a lot older, not just the stauche but he had grey hair and wrinkled features. Probably on purpose, i'm sure he tried in some way to disguise his appearance knowing nazis would be hated by the world.

[Midnight Black]

He looked older, it wasn't just you. Maybe in the 18 years he eventually learned that he could use his powers to reverse his age.

[Spider-Fan83]

if he were a mutant the whole time... he could be potentially a very old mutant (an could have been around for decades even...) at the point that we see him as Dr. Schmidt's he may of not had used with powers in a while (that rejuvenates him, and keeps him young) and let himself naturally age abit...

but, throw coming across young Erik, and realizing a new generation of mutants have come... he starts to plan his raise, and takes on the new identity of Shaw, to put it in to play... an spends 15 years or so, rebuilding his empire, and recruiting others to his cause (to a guy potentially as old as him, 15-20, is nothing, in the grand scheme of things)

[SuperSoldier985]

My thinking is, Shaw's energy powers are completely flexible in that if he goes too long without absorbing and storing a great amount of power, he'll start to show his age. Maybe he actually expels this energy from time to time willingly in order to appear older than he really is, depending on the situation.

It may seem arbitrary for Shaw to take the age of his middle aged self as we see him in the movie, but it's not that big of a deal.

[S. Grundy]

If they do a sequel I hope they reveal Mr Sinister had a hand in helping Shaw out.

God, I hope not. Sinister is lame.

[SuperSoldier985]

God, I hope not. Sinister is lame.
I think we've seen enough of the experimenting on mutants angle.

I still think the Sentinels are long overdue and the outcome of XMFC really do lend itself to it, especially with Erik/Magneto infiltrating the damn Pentagon to break out Frost.

[ciscostudent561]

Would the sentinels work in the 70's? It would take extremely good writing that is why i doubt they can pull it off. The technological and historical ramifications would really hard to work with.

As for for prior posts.

Sinister is awesome - so I disagree with anyone who thinks he's lame. But mutant experimentation is over done.

I think introducing aliens would just be an easy say out and bad for the series.

Someone brought up an excellent theme in using omega red since the cold war is upon us. The only downside is I'd hate an omega red story without Pietro.

I think apocalypse might be the most achievable considering the circumstances.

[SuperSoldier985]

Hey, this is the X-Men world. It doesn't have to be totally consistent with the technology. Besides, they appeared in the comics in the mid 60's anyway...I'm sure that there are ways around the technology gap.

[ciscostudent561]

I think the bigger issue Is the historical and continuity ramnifications.
The mutants are just being discovered in X1... That's in the 90's...
How do you justify to the public 50 ft search and destroy/capture bots in the 70's for an unknown menace? Plus the storyline. Really this is an x4 story.

[SuperSoldier985]

The mutants aren't being just discovered in X1. It's moreso that they are just now being made public to society.

Here in First Class, NO ONE really knew who they were, not even most governments up until that point. It's easy to assume that such things were well kept hidden over time.

and the Sentinels? It's all about how they are presented in the story. They could be brought in and still be kept quiet away from the public in some way.

[Midnight Black]

Maybe they will go the G.I. Joe route and make the sentinels humans with powered suits that give the wearers super strength, speed, and invulnerability to psychic attacks. I could see that happening before 50ft robots. I could also see 7ft-10ft tall robots being used, but still the technology gap between 60s-90/2K would be a problem.

Unless we say Beast builds a prototype of a sentinel and the government steals it and reprograms it. Why would Beast build a sentinel you ask??? Well, because basically he is an inventor now and builds things just for the explanation of things existence; blackbird, cerebro, Banshee's wings/suit, Havok's circle thingy, and mutant enhancers. Yep he can build the sentinels.

[psylockolussus]

God, I hope not. Sinister is lame.

Mr. Sinister is like one of the most well-known X-Men villains along with Magneto and Apocalypse.

[S. Grundy]

Mr. Sinister is like one of the most well-known X-Men villains along with Magneto and Apocalypse.

Well known doesn't = good.

[spider-neil]

mystique - ages slowly
beast - ages slowly (probably due to mysitque's blood)
moira - ages slowly? (in X3 she looks in her 30's) maybe in a sequel they'll explain that.

[Spider-Fan83]

mystique - ages slowly
beast - ages slowly (probably due to mysitque's blood)
moira - ages slowly? (in X3 she looks in her 30's) maybe in a sequel they'll explain that.
botox, and plastic surgery lol

[Midnight Black]

HA:awesome:

[Spider-Fan83]

but, seriously, her looking young in X3 (an saying she looked 30, was being generous, tho, the actress playing her was only around 38 at he time, so, she hardly looked 70, either lol) that kinda thing can be overlooked and doesn't need to be explained (when casting her in x3, they obviously didn’t have the hindsight of knowing that one day there would be a prequel made, featuring her in the 60s… but, they should’ve lol)

I would however like to see some developed of her, on how she went from a CIA agent, to a doctor/scientist who specializes in mutants (obviously, the events of this movie, peeked her interest in mutants) but, I’d like for them to maybe talk about her going back to school for a degree in medicine/or science (maybe being under Xavier's tutelage)

[Angelus_Darko]

The only possible explanation to the whole Moira thing is the Austin Powers 1 route. Making it "Oh, yeah, she's Doctor McTaggert, just like her mother", something like that.

[S. Grundy]

botox, and plastic surgery lol

Or she is just a really hot looking 60-year-old.

[SuperSoldier985]

Let's use the same logic of ignoring Beast's cameo in X2 with ignoring Moira's cameo in X3. :D

[ciscostudent561]

The only possible explanation to the whole Moira thing is the Austin Powers 1 route. Making it "Oh, yeah, she's Doctor McTaggert, just like her mother", something like that.

Yeah
I would say grandma just so they can have the same name

[SuperSoldier985]

lol, don't do that

[Midnight Black]

There is no continuity lol. They're going to reveal that Nightcrawler is Raven's uncle just because they need to in order to make a sequel work. Forget trying to make sense. You guys are going to end up like Xavier. :facepalm:

[psylockolussus]

Let's use the same logic of ignoring Beast's cameo in X2 with ignoring Moira's cameo in X3. :D

Yeah I agree

But Olivia Williams and Rose Byrne are like Sisters in real life.

[Midnight Black]

Yeah I agree

But Olivia Williams and Rose Byrne are like Sisters in real life.

So Moira in X3 is around the same age as Rose Byrne or knows her?

Also, where is Beast in X2. I remember his cameo on tv in X1 at the bar, but not in X2?

[S. Grundy]

So Moira in X3 is around the same age as Rose Byrne or knows her?

Also, where is Beast in X2. I remember his cameo on tv in X1 at the bar, but not in X2?

There's about a decades difference in age between the actresses.

The Beast cameo on the TV was from X2, when Mystique seduces the prison guard to inject him with iron. There was no real surprise cameo in the first movie, other than seeing characters like Jubilee, Pyro and Colossus for split seconds.

[Midnight Black]

There's about a decades difference in age between the actresses.

The Beast cameo on the TV was from X2, when Mystique seduces the prison to inject him iron. There was no real surprise cameo in the first movie, other than seeing characters like Jubilee, Pyro and Colossus for split seconds.

Oh, ok, I was thinking that was in X1 for some reason.

[ComicChick]

i don't even remember Moira in X3

[ComicChick]

but as for Shaw, I assumed he kept a nuclear reactor in the sub so he could power up when needed, which helped him look younger

[psylockolussus]

i don't even remember Moira in X3

Moira was in the TV/Prof X's funeral and the last scene.

But Olivia Williams was uncredited.

[Riptide]

Shaw used the kinetic energy he absorbed to keep himself at the same elderly age most of the time.

[Golgo-13]

I could have sworn he mentioned something about his age to the General during the grenade scene.

[akfj]

I could have sworn he mentioned something about his age to the General during the grenade scene.

Yeah, he said, "...keeps me young, but that's the boring part."