Joseph Gordon-Levitt as John Blake II

[The_Raganork]

Tom Conti's character/Alan Grant

[Sharkboy]

no i read the script.

John Blake turns out to be dick grayson...who turns out to be joker all along.

It's because Heath and JGL look sooooo alike.

You heard it here first folks.

:word: peace!

Because we all know, this film series is nothing without the joker...if it wants to make any money and be good, it needs the joker. get it? got it? good.

[The_Raganork]

I'm trying not to imagine you as your avatar...it makes your post irrelevant when I do

[KalMart]

Nolan/God

[Sharkboy]

I'm trying not to imagine you as your avatar...it makes your post irrelevant when I do

If it helps conceal all the bs I spout, then mission = accomplished.

[The_Raganork]

Don't say that! I think you're a great poster

[ShadowBoxer]

no i read the script.

John Blake turns out to be dick grayson...who turns out to be joker all along.

It's because Heath and JGL look sooooo alike.

You heard it here first folks.

:word: peace!

Because we all know, this film series is nothing without the joker...if it wants to make any money and be good, it needs the joker. get it? got it? good.

I totally think that JGL could have pulled off a great Joker performance (he looks like Heath for sure). But I understand why Nolan didn't wanna go that route.

[madcowre]

I totally think that JGL could have pulled off a great Joker performance (he looks like Heath for sure). But I understand why Nolan didn't wanna go that route.

There's a video on his website of him reciting a speech in make up similar to the Joker. The resemblance is quite scary.

[Sharkboy]

There are things that i know if added into this film would not be good, for the sake of the story, and everything that Chris Nolan has built in his series.

There are also things that if they were added, would totally make me jump and scream with guilty fanboy glee.

JGL as robin/new batman would totally tick both those boxes.

[The_Raganork]

Just the first Box for me. Not out of some hate for Robin but because it seems very unnecessary and counter to the films thus far.

[Sharkboy]

I'm not even a robin fan (although i love me some tim drake) I'm just a JGL fan...I really REALLY don't want him to get shot in the head.

[venus_ice]

I'm not even a robin fan (although i love me some tim drake) I'm just a JGL fan...I really REALLY don't want him to get shot in the head.

He won't be. The source who gave us that tip actually had a lot of information wrong.

[gugumugats]

I'm not even a robin fan (although i love me some tim drake) I'm just a JGL fan...I really REALLY don't want him to get shot in the head.

JGL !!!!!!!!!!!!! I man-crush me some JGL. Although, I am also a robin fan. If JGL = Robin/Nightwing. MY MIND WILL EXPLODE.

[Miranda Fox]

He won't be. The source who gave us that tip actually had a lot of information wrong.

*phew*

You know...the proto-Robin idea is really growing on me.

[venus_ice]

*phew*

You know...the proto-Robin idea is really growing on me.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo




:awesome:

[The_Raganork]

What's your proto-Robin idea?

[KalMart]

Starts with him joining the circus for a few years.....

[madcowre]

JGL !!!!!!!!!!!!! I man-crush me some JGL. Although, I am also a robin fan. If JGL = Robin/Nightwing. MY MIND WILL EXPLODE.

I'd prefer Nightwing than a Robin. I think it would suit JGL better :awesome:

[the dmg]

I'd prefer Nightwing than a Robin. I think it would suit JGL better :awesome:
How do you skip Robin!

[KalMart]

How do you skip Robin!

Like this.....




.....cool, huh?



;)

[the dmg]

Like this.....




.....cool, huh?



;)
Quiet you.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w235/f1ed/MrPeabody.jpg

[madcowre]

How do you skip Robin!

I've never been a Robin fan :csad:

[the dmg]

I've never been a Robin fan :csad:
Do you not like Nightwing either? I'm just curious.

[SuperSoldier985]

John Blake could always be a de-aged Ra's Al Ghul as a young man! Hiding in plain sight for the last 8 years.

[madcowre]

Do you not like Nightwing either? I'm just curious.

No, I don't mind Nightwing...even though technically, he was a Robin first. He was a little more badass and the costume was better!

But to be honest, I just always hated the idea that Batman needs a sidekick. :dry:

[HighFivingMF]

Then you hate Gordon and Alfred too?

[venus_ice]

John Blake could always be a de-aged Ra's Al Ghul as a young man! Hiding in plain sight for the last 8 years.

I knew it all along.

My source told me so. :o

[KalMart]

He'll be the future commissioner....Wayne will be the future mayor....

[The_Raganork]

Alfred is the future corpse

[KalMart]

Alfred is the future corpse

Nah...still the butler.

*cough*lazaruspit*cough*


On a more somber note...Caine's not going to be around that much longer, when you think about. :csad:

[venus_ice]

[horrible person]

:funny:

[/horrible person]

[Dark Sentinel]

Nah...still the butler.

*cough*lazaruspit*cough*


On a more somber note...Caine's not going to be around that much longer, when you think about. :csad:

Michael Caine? Die?

NEVAH!!:argh:

[The_Raganork]

When he does I'll snort his ashes cause he will always be...

Mycocaine

[KidHolland8]

My theory on John Blake(It may not support all these rumors but hear me out) :

Blake is a young, up and coming cop. He's designated to a special force to take down batman. He finds out that everything Batman is accused of doing is a lie, It was all Two-Face(Harvey Dent). He changes his mind about Batman and finds out who he is(somehow I haven't thought it out yet). In the final Batman/Bane show-down, Bane KILLS Bruce. Bane has all of his followers weakening batman, Miranda Tate(if she's talia) has been Bruce's love-interest and is taking him down from the inside. and when he's finally at his weakest is when Bane strikes, Bane breaks Batmans back but like he said in Batman Begins, "as a man I'm flesh and blood I can be ignored I can be destroyed but as a symbol, as a symbol I can be incorruptible, I can be everlasting." So, Bruce dies ending the Nolan-Batman Series, John Blake puts on the cape and keeps the symbol alive and giving whoever the next director may be to continue this Nolan's storyline, without Bruce Wayne and starting a continuation that is similar to when Nightwing took over for Bruce.

Like? Dislike? I wanna know what you think.

[Dark Sentinel]

My theory on John Blake(It may not support all these rumors but hear me out) :

Blake is a young, up and coming cop. He's designated to a special force to take down batman. He finds out that everything Batman is accused of doing is a lie, It was all Two-Face(Harvey Dent). He changes his mind about Batman and finds out who he is(somehow I haven't thought it out yet). In the final Batman/Bane show-down, Bane KILLS Bruce. Bane has all of his followers weakening batman, Miranda Tate(if she's talia) has been Bruce's love-interest and is taking him down from the inside. and when he's finally at his weakest is when Bane strikes, Bane breaks Batmans back but like he said in Batman Begins, "as a man I'm flesh and blood I can be ignored I can be destroyed but as a symbol, as a symbol I can be incorruptible, I can be everlasting." So, Bruce dies ending the Nolan-Batman Series, John Blake puts on the cape and keeps the symbol alive and giving whoever the next director may be to continue this Nolan's storyline, without Bruce Wayne and starting a continuation that is similar to when Nightwing took over for Bruce.

Like? Dislike? I wanna know what you think.

I doubt Blake's role is THAT significant, but I'm sure he does have a major impact on Bruce's story in this movie.

[KidHolland8]

I doubt Blake's role is THAT significant, but I'm sure he does have a major impact on Bruce's story in this movie.

I really think JGL was meant for more. Nolan knows no one will be able to restart another SUCCESSFUL batman franchise. I believe he'll leave the door open to continue his.

Bruce dies but the symbol lives on with Blake

[KalMart]

I really think JGL was meant for more. Nolan knows no one will be able to restart another SUCCESSFUL batman franchise. I believe he'll leave the door open to continue his.

Bruce dies but the symbol lives on with Blake

As the future mayor or commissioner.

[GregComicFan]

My theory on John Blake(It may not support all these rumors but hear me out) :

Blake is a young, up and coming cop. He's designated to a special force to take down batman. He finds out that everything Batman is accused of doing is a lie, It was all Two-Face(Harvey Dent). He changes his mind about Batman and finds out who he is(somehow I haven't thought it out yet). In the final Batman/Bane show-down, Bane KILLS Bruce. Bane has all of his followers weakening batman, Miranda Tate(if she's talia) has been Bruce's love-interest and is taking him down from the inside. and when he's finally at his weakest is when Bane strikes, Bane breaks Batmans back but like he said in Batman Begins, "as a man I'm flesh and blood I can be ignored I can be destroyed but as a symbol, as a symbol I can be incorruptible, I can be everlasting." So, Bruce dies ending the Nolan-Batman Series, John Blake puts on the cape and keeps the symbol alive and giving whoever the next director may be to continue this Nolan's storyline, without Bruce Wayne and starting a continuation that is similar to when Nightwing took over for Bruce.

Like? Dislike? I wanna know what you think.

Ugh. Don't like the "Blake-becomes-Batman" theorists... please no.

[KidHolland8]

As the future mayor or commissioner.

I don't know, I think he'd fit the role perfect for taking up the mantle of Batman. I just want to see Joker, and if Nolan does it my way and at the end Batman(Blake) is standing on a ledge over the city and he hears "Break out at Arkham, all inmates have escaped" That leaves the door open for the next director to use the Joker(Who doesn't know Batman is a new guy because he never finds out that Bruce is Batman) and that revamps the Joker/Batman feud with a new actor as the Joker

[KidHolland8]

Ugh. Don't like the "Blake-becomes-Batman" theorists... please no.

This would be the best outcome though, the next director wouldn't have too cast a new batman, JGL would just resume the role, Joker comes back and teams up with the Riddler.

[KalMart]

I don't know, I think he'd fit the role perfect for taking up the mantle of Batman. I just want to see Joker, and if Nolan does it my way and at the end Batman(Blake) is standing on a ledge over the city and he hears "Break out at Arkham, all inmates have escaped" That leaves the door open for the next director to use the Joker(Who doesn't know Batman is a new guy because he never finds out that Bruce is Batman) and that revamps the Joker/Batman feud with a new actor as the Joker

Sounds a bit too 'comic-booky' for this version, not to be offensive. Can't see it. And they're going to reboot Batman if they start another series up again, as is best some 7+ years or so down the road.

[KidHolland8]

it'll new director continuing the NolanBatman storyline, he might wanna continue with the Realism style but he won't wanna mimic Nolan step for step. He'll try and make it a little more "comic-booky" but real at the same time. It'll be a good sequel series if it goes this way

[KalMart]

it'll new director continuing the NolanBatman storyline,
They won't, though.

he might wanna continue with the Realism style but he won't wanna mimic Nolan step for step. He'll try and make it a little more "comic-booky" but real at the same time. It'll be a good sequel series if it goes this way

Nah...probably best for the franchise as well to start up fresh again with a whole new direction/vision. Let Nolan's have its own era and beginning/end.

[Schlosser85]

I doubt the next series will be connected to Nolan's at all. It'll probably be a complete reboot.

[KidHolland8]

Which would be the most STUPID thing WB could do. No Batman serie's will compare to Nolans. His will forever be the best. A continuation would be the best way to go just to keep the Realism effect into it. If they do a reboot the director can do w/e, if WB says they want a continuation, the director would have to keep some Realism into it .

[KalMart]

Which would be the most STUPID thing WB could do. No Batman serie's will compare to Nolans.
It doesn't have to. It'll be its own series altogether and only have to do as well as it can on its own.

His will forever be the best. A continuation would be the best way to go just to keep the Realism effect into it. If they do a reboot the director can do w/e, if WB says they want a continuation, the director would have to keep some Realism into it .
I think a complete change is they're best choice creatively, and ultimately revenue-wise as well.

[KidHolland8]

It doesn't have to. It'll be its own series altogether and only have to do as well as it can on its own.


I think a complete change is they're best choice creatively, and ultimately revenue-wise as well.

we both have our opinions. One thing we both agree on, this movies gonna be bad ass!!

[KalMart]

You gotta' be able to let this series go when it's done...even as great as it may be...it's ultimately the biggest sign of respect and appreciation to not try and feed off it any more. If you really want this series to go down as a benchmark in cinema, don't make the same mistake as Star Wars, Godfather, and Indiana Jones. Let it remain a self-contained gem that happened in a certain chunk of time, not something we have to keep going back to and eventually ruin...like the others. Let it stand out in quality that way as well. Three good ones, no bad ones, the end. :up:

[KidHolland8]

don't make the same mistake as Star Wars,

i loved the star wars movies. 1-6.

[venus_ice]

What if the reboot turned out to Batman Beyond? Lololololol

[the dmg]

It doesn't have to. It'll be its own series altogether and only have to do as well as it can on its own.


I think a complete change is they're best choice creatively, and ultimately revenue-wise as well.
Then they can reuse Joker again. :cwink:

[KalMart]

i loved the star wars movies. 1-6.

Ouch.


Then they can reuse Joker again. :cwink:

There you go. :up:

[Sharkboy]

The moment I found out JGL was going to be a beat cop, I always thought John Blake would be the young hotshot cop in a gordon/year one type deal. Sorta like our narrative window into the whole situation, you can see him at home with the preggo wife, then he goes to work and his mentor gordon showing him the ropes, bane is out there causing havoc, he's wondering whether he should hunt the batman (duty) or just hear out his apparantly "corrupt" commish who is colluding with this criminal. His character arc would be one that pretty encapsulates the average gotham citizen's feelings towards batman...first that of fear, then apprehension...then eventually just like everyone else he gets inspired by the batman to take back his city...along with the other cops and civvies of gotham city.

I doubt he'll be that significant...but it was a nice thought of mine where his character should go in the story.

[KidHolland8]

Then they can reuse Joker again. :cwink:

they can in my version too.

New director, New Bats, New Bruce.

No one knows Bruce is batman except a select few.

Joker returns to kill Batman and its no longer bruce, its Blake.

KILL BRUCE AND LET BLAKE TAKE THE THROWN!

[KalMart]

they can in my version too.

New director, New Bats, New Bruce.

Might as well make it a new series/canon, too.

[KidHolland8]

You could go both ways, if Nolan has Blake become batman you could do my version, if not, then your version would be perfect. I just like the sound of a Nightwing-As-Batman-esque story. but instead of nightwing its blake

[KalMart]

You could go both ways, if Nolan has Blake become batman you could do my version, if not, then your version would be perfect. I just like the sound of a Nightwing-As-Batman-esque story. but instead of nightwing its blake

Better to go one way and be consistent/clear with it....a complete reboot with a new blank slate. :up:

[the dmg]

There you go. :up:
Not a fan of that idea actually.

[KalMart]

Not a fan of that idea actually.

So, no Joker in a new version? Could also be interesting...leave more room for baddies like ClayFace, Croc, or.....BabyDoll......

[Sharkboy]

Oh you can bet that WB are itching to let the nolanverse end so they can give us another joker.

[KalMart]

It is going to be a heavy task on the next version/actor, though. Might scare some talent away, actually.

[the dmg]

So, no Joker in a new version? Could also be interesting...leave more room for baddies like ClayFace, Croc, or.....BabyDoll......
While I would want to see what another director's take on the character would be, Batman has a pretty good gallery full of rogues that could be used over him.

[SuperSoldier985]

JGL is just 1-2 movies away from being an A-list celebrity, I'm sure, even if there's no secret twist, that he'll play a pivotal role in the movie...but perhaps it may not be anything more significant than Eric Roberts' role in TDK? Who knows? It lends itself to much more mystery seeing he's apparently some character created especially for the movie.

[Sharkboy]

It is going to be a heavy task on the next version/actor, though. Might scare some talent away, actually.

That's what we said about Nicholson's Joker.

[KalMart]

While I would want to see what another director's take on the character would be, Batman has a pretty good gallery full of rogues that could be used over him.

There's still a lot of room, yeah.

[KalMart]

That's what we said about Nicholson's Joker.

True...but now it's twice as difficult. :D

[Sharkboy]

True...but now it's twice as difficult. :D

Well...All the new actor has to do, is do what Heath did...by not doing what heath did and try his best to put his own stamp on the character and not imitate. Of course a lot of this lies in the costume designer, screenwriter and director...but ultimately it's best if the new joker doesn't look at heath's performance and goes "yeah that's what i wanna do...it worked for him!"

[KalMart]

Well...All the new actor has to do, is do what Heath did...by not doing what heath did and try his best to put his own stamp on the character and not imitate. Of course a lot of this lies in the costume designer, screenwriter and director...but ultimately it's best if the new joker doesn't look at heath's performance and goes "yeah that's what i wanna do...it worked for him!"

Same as the new franchise, for that matter. I think a big key is time...another whole generation of movies in general should go by...like another 7-10 years until the next Batman moves. So they have their own era free and clear, too....and even a new generation of moviegoers.

I don't anyone will try to emulate Ledger or what have you...you really can't unless it's some sort of impersonation, which would be too obvious. I also think a whole different visual style will be in order...so that this Joker does actually have a huge devilish grin and not scars, etc. Maybe something more fantastical altogether.

[croboy82]

Exclusive:

http://i40.tinypic.com/1zqfok2.jpg

:awesome:

[Miranda Fox]

What if the reboot turned out to Batman Beyond? Lololololol

I wouldn't be surprised if that turned out to be the case. ;)

[Great Mind(s)]

Exclusive:

http://i40.tinypic.com/1zqfok2.jpg

:awesome:
Beautiful...unethical...dangerous...

[HolyPurpleSocks]

Exclusive:

http://i40.tinypic.com/1zqfok2.jpg

:awesome:
That's pretty awesome. It if were cropped down to 100 x 100, that would be my next avatar.

[venus_ice]

I wouldn't be surprised if that turned out to be the case. ;) HAHA Miranda! I just want them to back away from 'rebooting' Nolan's trilogy. We do already have Bruce with the cane in this movie after all. Someone mentioned Clint Eastwood could play Bruce in Batman Beyond. I would TOTALLY be down with that part. :funny:

You guys are giving way too much love to JGL. Where is the love for Tom in his thread? C'mon now :cmad:

[croboy82]

That's cause its JGLs thread :p haha

[venus_ice]

There is no Robin in the movie. We must vacate this thread. We must... we must. :P

[croboy82]

Nevah!

[venus_ice]

:argh:

[The_Raganork]

I think Bane needs to Manhandle Blake in this film...in slow motion.

[venus_ice]

That's a Zak Snyder film if I ever heard one. :funny:

[The_Raganork]

*Imagines*


EDIT: Seriously though, John Blake is just a cop but that doesn't mean a cop can't be extraordinary or do extraordinary things. He needn't be Robin or Nightwing to make a difference or to be important.

[venus_ice]

Has there been no creepy 'Bane has sex with everyone' fanart yet? What is happening? WB really are dropping the ball in marketing this movie.

[croboy82]

I think Bane needs to Manhandle Blake in this film...in slow motion.

Yes they would be a good match for..... :awesome:

On a serious note, I think that's why he is here. To show that you don't have to be some kind of super hero to improve Gotham and do something good and inspire.

[The_Raganork]

Ashamed to say I looked...more ashamed to say found none

[HolyPurpleSocks]

There is no Robin in the movie. We must vacate this thread. We must... we must. :P
We must never quit on a thread which can pick itself back up...we will stay until it is finished.




"When this thread is in ashes...you have my permission to stop posting."

[venus_ice]

^^ :hehe:

On a serious note, I think that's why he is here. To show that you don't have to be some kind of super hero to improve Gotham and do something good and inspire.

Agreed. The fact that people think he's some sort of costumed maniac like Batman underneath his uniform undermines the fact that he IS a good cop doing good things--without a mask. I think that's what Nolan wants to show with his character. Gotham needs more people like him at the end of this trilogy.

Oh god, you sucked me into this.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:o

[croboy82]

Yay.

Seriously Gotham needs to improvie with its own people and Mr. Blake will be the begining of that.

[gugumugats]

^^ :hehe:



Agreed. The fact that people think he's some sort of costumed maniac like Batman underneath his uniform undermines the fact that he IS a good cop doing good things--without a mask. I think that's what Nolan wants to show with his character. Gotham needs more people like him at the end of this trilogy.

Oh god, you sucked me into this.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:o


WHOA. After reading that I just realized that it would be better story-wise if Blake remained a cop rather than become a costumed vigilante a la Robin/Nightwing.

[venus_ice]

:awesome:

Think about it in terms of ending a trilogy. What would be better: having another vigilante like Batman and Catwoman taking up responsibility for defending Gotham or having the citizens, like Blake, do so themselves? Not that I'm saying that Batman or whoever else will be obsolete or that he'll definitively hang up the suit in the end, but what's best for Gotham is what's best for Batman. We don't know how Nolan will end it but if Batman is to be at peace somehow in the end then Blake, Gordon, and maybe Foley--those 'heroes with a face'--are going to play a big part in taking some of that responsibility off his shoulders. In that way I feel like Blake will be important. He doesn't HAVE to be Robin or Nightwing to be a character worthy of making a difference in Batman's story arc. IDK, IMO.

And also, he's so hot in that cop outfit. Why do you wanna take that away from me???? :cmad:

[madcowre]

You mean you don't want to see him like this instead? :cwink:

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i310/madcowre/photo.jpg

[Greens]

Why do people keep bringing up Robin? Robin is NOT going to be in a Nolan Batman film. And if Robin's excluded, I think the chances of Nightwing appearing are pretty slim too.

Blake donning the Batman costume for some special reason could work, but I don't agree with the people who think this film should lead up to a Batman Beyond film. This trilogy should stand on its own, with a clear beginning and a clear ending.

[CaptainSpunk]

I have a question about JGL's wardrobe. Does anyone know what brand of clothes he wears most? Im talking about the dress suits he wears in the movie and in real life. I figure its not all one designer or brand... but what does he wear most...

[TinkerTailor]

I expect Blake to have been inspired by Gordon rather than Batman. At the beginning of TDKR it's Gordon who is considered the hero. It would be nice for Blake to remain a good cop rather than going the costumed vigilante route because it would show Gordon's positive influence on Gotham. All along Batman has been working with the perfect example of a great Gotham citizen. I'd like that to be highlighted.

[CrypticOne]

Yeah, I hope Blake is a good guy. But then again, this is Gotham.

[The_Raganork]

He is a good guy. It's not Gordon and Batman anymore

[KalMart]

Maybe he plays a young Bane in a flashback...and we see how on a lone investigation, he was turned into.....





...wait...that's from something else, isn't it?

[Schlosser85]

I always thought Nightwing was hot. Not Robin, but Nightwing.

[Banes_Dealer]

Has there been no creepy 'Bane has sex with everyone' fanart yet? What is happening? WB really are dropping the ball in marketing this movie.



MMMM... Somebody rule 34 that sexy boy with me. LOL :hrt:

here's a pic that'll keep you awake with fear at night... Me as Robin.



...FEMALE Robin.

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/7228837/img/7228837.png

[The_Raganork]

Now the ending of the film is spoiled!

[Banes_Dealer]

Now the ending of the film is spoiled!


HAHAHAHHA!

I was also the princess (with a lesbian couple as the mario bros. we won best costume that year.)
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/7228886/640/7228886.jpg

And supergirl (The only pic I can find right now is a pic of me getting mocked humped in the pic by the kid from "Superbad"... had to edit out the "party favors") so we could caption the picture "Super-Bad-Girl"... get it?)

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/7228889/img/7228889.png

I have a knack for dressing like girls for halloween.

Even took the wife and kid out as the witch and tinman so I could be Dorothy...

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/7228903/img/7228903.jpghttp://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/7228907/img/7228907.jpg

[CaptainSpunk]

Now that we've got all the gay out of our systems...
Does anyone know what designer JGL wears most often?

[spidey-dude]

Now that we've got all the gay out of our systems...
Does anyone know what designer JGL wears most often?

should have asked that before everyone got "the gay" ou of their systems


he wears dfferent clothes in different films because he is dressed by different people each film will have different costume people - I doubt anyone has chronicled what he has worn the most, if you are interested in an awesome looking suit for yourself tom ford is pretty amazing

[CaptainSpunk]

Yes Im just looking to see what brand of suits he wears most.

[Banes_Dealer]

Now that we've got all the gay out of our systems...
Does anyone know what designer JGL wears most often?

Oh, it'll NEVER be out of my system, sailor. :cwink: :fhm: :hrt:

[CaptainSpunk]

Oh, it'll NEVER be out of my system, sailor. :cwink: :fhm: :hrt:

Oh I can tell...:woot::cwink:

[Banes_Dealer]

Oh I can tell...:woot::cwink:

L:awesome:L.

[gugumugats]

Oh, it'll NEVER be out of my system, sailor. :cwink: :fhm: :hrt:

Banes_Dealer, you never fail to surprise me. Nice pics btw ...

[Rhames]

He wears kmart.

[Nevincer]

Has this been posted yet?

aSq1cez_flQ

:hrt::awesome:

[TIM BLAKE]

hey dudes!! long time lurker first time poster!! just thought i'd share this with the hype and hope this leads to some interesting discussion. Watch the trailer and pause at the 1:03 mark,its where we see bruce's reaction to selina kyle.Pause it there and look to your right a bit slightly out of focus to the man dancing with the woman you can tell that's JOHN BLAKE wearing the mask dancing with the woman.....now this only gives me more hope that JB is DG,i know all the bale blah blah nolan blah blah about no robin....buuut i see what nolans doing and JGL becoming robin or a form of robin is something we are definatley in for. I know this is like beating a dead horse to some of you but humor me and tell me that doesn't look like john blake at waynes masquarade ball to you?

[croboy82]

I don't think you can really tell if that's him. Could be...

[TIM BLAKE]

I don't think you can really tell if that's him. Could be...
that looks awfully like JGL to ma the haircut,ears,cheekbones lol but seriously i strongly believe that's him.nolan cut it in that way just right,to quote the prestige ''Are you watching closely?''

[Dark Sentinel]

Agreed. Does look like him. Probably just a wink to the crazy conspiracy fanboys though :hehe:

[kvz5]

Sometimes I wonder if the "John Blake will be Robin/new Batman" speculations will be brought up this much if JGL wasn't the one playing John Blake.

[Citadel30]

I dont think its too unrealistic to believe that a young ambitious cop, Blake, knows that Bruce is batman and is helping him on the inside as his eyes and ears inside the police department. Gordon does work with Batman, but we never know if he finds out batman's true identity. Maybe Blake finds out and asks Bruce if he can "assist" him.

[TIM BLAKE]

Sometimes I wonder if the "John Blake will be Robin/new Batman" speculations will be brought up this much if JGL wasn't the one playing John Blake.

JGL does look alot like tim drake and grayson from the comics..only fuel to the fire.fire rises..:awesome:

[Llama_Shepherd]

Sometimes I wonder if the "John Blake will be Robin/new Batman" speculations will be brought up this much if JGL wasn't the one playing John Blake.

Maybe there is a reason the youthful Joe Gordon Levitt was chosen. :awesome:

[Johnny Drama]

KILL BRUCE AND LET BLAKE TAKE THE THROWN!


I'm sorry but that idea is downright awful. Seems like something Bret Ratner would do...

[バット人]

Man oh man, there's blatant homosexual vulgarity in here too? What the hell is wrong with people, there are tons of people on these message boards and they're not all adults you know? I'm surprised by the lack of moderating in these vulgar threads.

Any way, I'm one of those that think John Blake may be more than just a "good cop". Recently a product list for upcoming action figures have been released for TDKR and good old "GCPD Blake" is listed. Now I've been collecting toys since the 60s so I find it hard to believe, Mattel would make such an obscure character if he's just a "cop". We're talking about the company that took years to finally give collectors an important character like Eckhart Two-Face and Harvey Dent. Keep in mind Fox, Alfred and even Gordon haven't had action figures. "Blake" must be something big.

At this stage, I could see why fans might think he's something more, something along the lines of Robin or Nightwing. I mean, to have a character in a line up along side Batman, Bane and Catwoman is a bit strange when John Blake seems to be a simple, every day "civilian". I think there's more to it, there's got to be.

[craigdbfan]

Man oh man, there's blatant homosexual vulgarity in here too? What the hell is wrong with people, there are tons of people on these message boards and they're not all adults you know? I'm surprised by the lack of moderating in these vulgar threads.

Any way, I'm one of those that think John Blake may be more than just a "good cop". Recently a product list for upcoming action figures have been released for TDKR and good old "GCPD Blake" is listed. Now I've been collecting toys since the 60s so I find it hard to believe, Mattel would make such an obscure character if he's just a "cop". We're talking about the company that took years to finally give collectors an important character like Eckhart Two-Face and Harvey Dent. Keep in mind Fox, Alfred and even Gordon haven't had action figures. "Blake" must be something big.

At this stage, I could see why fans might think he's something more, something along the lines of Robin or Nightwing. I mean, to have a character in a line up along side Batman, Bane and Catwoman is a bit strange when John Blake seems to be a simple, every day "civilian". I think there's more to it, there's got to be.

That's very interesting and I agree that there seems to be more to the character than just being cop. :up:

[バット人]

That's very interesting and I agree that there seems to be more to the character than just being cop. :up:

Thanks man. That product list isn't the only thing that's got me thinking. There's also those spy pics that show Bruce Wayne and Blake driving around in the squad car. To me, it doesn't look like Wayne is in Police custody more like he's just a passenger in the police car. The fact that Grayson, in the comics is a cop and Nightwing just makes me think that "Blake" is something more. I mean, why would Wayne be hanging around with Blake? When Levitt and Blake was first announced, yeah, I thought he was nothing more than a cop. Then I noticed how quiet he was about his character and the spy pics, the 8 year gap and now the product figure list and the gears have started turning. I really don't think this character is just a new cop on the force that will take over the role of Gordon and Batman. I'm thinking there might be this father-son interaction with Wayne. Something like Grayson/Robin in the comics. Perhaps Blake and Selina will represent an actual family for Bruce, something he hasn't had other than Alfred. Let's not forget there's a sequence with Levitt with orphans, that alone could support the character's significance as Robin or as a "Robin" archetype.

I guess we'll all have to wait and see. Nolan has expressed interest in taking characters from the comics and putting them in the world he created. Joker, Catwoman and Bane are evidence of this. It would be exciting if he has done the same with Robin. He is, after all one of the most important secondary characters. He was created before Alfred, Joker and Catwoman and remains an important figure in the mythology today. I'd love to see Nolan's interpretation of it even if it isn't "superheroish" in the fact that it's an acrobatic kid running around in green and red tights.

[TIM BLAKE]

Thanks man. That product list isn't the only thing that's got me thinking. There's also those spy pics that show Bruce Wayne and Blake driving around in the squad car. To me, it doesn't look like Wayne is in Police custody more like he's just a passenger in the police car. The fact that Grayson, in the comics is a cop and Nightwing just makes me think that "Blake" is something more. I mean, why would Wayne be hanging around with Blake? When Levitt and Blake was first announced, yeah, I thought he was nothing more than a cop. Then I noticed how quiet he was about his character and the spy pics, the 8 year gap and now the product figure list and the gears have started turning. I really don't think this character is just a new cop on the force that will take over the role of Gordon and Batman. I'm thinking there might be this father-son interaction with Wayne. Something like Grayson/Robin in the comics. Perhaps Blake and Selina will represent an actual family for Bruce, something he hasn't had other than Alfred. Let's not forget there's a sequence with Levitt with orphans, that alone could support the character's significance as Robin or as a "Robin" archetype.

I guess we'll all have to wait and see. Nolan has expressed interest in taking characters from the comics and putting them in the world he created. Joker, Catwoman and Bane are evidence of this. It would be exciting if he has done the same with Robin. He is, after all one of the most important secondary characters. He was created before Alfred, Joker and Catwoman and remains an important figure in the mythology today. I'd love to see Nolan's interpretation of it even if it isn't "superheroish" in the fact that it's an acrobatic kid running around in green and red tights.

This.

[robthorn24]

Any way, I'm one of those that think John Blake may be more than just a "good cop". Recently a product list for upcoming action figures have been released for TDKR and good old "GCPD Blake" is listed. Now I've been collecting toys since the 60s so I find it hard to believe, Mattel would make such an obscure character if he's just a "cop". We're talking about the company that took years to finally give collectors an important character like Eckhart Two-Face and Harvey Dent. Keep in mind Fox, Alfred and even Gordon haven't had action figures. "Blake" must be something big.

At this stage, I could see why fans might think he's something more, something along the lines of Robin or Nightwing. I mean, to have a character in a line up along side Batman, Bane and Catwoman is a bit strange when John Blake seems to be a simple, every day "civilian". I think there's more to it, there's got to be.

Thanks バット人, that's very interesting info! Do you happen to have a link to the list of figures??

[*Whiplash*]

Isn't there a Gordon action figure?

I'm positive there is.

[Rocketman]

A Blake action figure really changes everything. :wow:

[バット人]

Isn't there a Gordon action figure?

I'm positive there is.

You are correct. I believe a movie Gordon is finally set to appear in a 2 pack of some kind. It's a shame people have had to wait 7 years for an official movie figure of the Oldman Gordon. A Blake action figure really changes everything. :wow:

Yep. If the character isn't first tier or second tier, FROM the comics, the chances of a figure being made are nill. With Blake it's strange, I mean, he's not from the comics unlike Alfred, Fox, Gordon (until now) and other characters who are, essentially from the source material who aren't part of these merchandise deals. Yet a "made up" character, this secondary character, some "John Smith" nobody is getting one? There's something strange there. Batman, Bane, Catwoman, Ras, JOHN BLAKE? It just doesn't add up. A toy company would never do this. It would be like if they made a Max Shreck, Rachel Dawes or Ramirez and Stephens, it just doesn't happen. The fact that the name on the Walmart listing is ""GCPD Blake" instead of simply "GCPD Blake" is even more puzzling. Is this Grayson, Robin? Does "GCPD" mean there may be other versions of the figure, like for example The Joker and"Interrogation Joker"? Unless Mattel has gone completely insane there's no way they would spend time and money on tooling or producing a figure of Levitt in a police attire. They just wouldn't.

Speaking of which, Ras is also in that line up. Whether it's just a "Begins" figure or something more has yet to be revealed. The listing alone may confirm that he's indeed in Rises. Exciting times.

[craigdbfan]

You are correct. I believe a movie Gordon is finally set to appear in a 2 pack of some kind. It's a shame people have had to wait 7 years for an official movie figure of the Oldman Gordon.

Yep. If the character isn't first tier or second tier, FROM the comics, the chances of a figure being made are nill. With Blake it's strange, I mean, he's not from the comics unlike Alfred, Fox, Gordon (until now) and other characters who are, essentially from the source material who aren't part of these merchandise deals. Yet a "made up" character, this secondary character, some "John Smith" nobody is getting one? There's something strange there. Batman, Bane, Catwoman, Ras, JOHN BLAKE? It just doesn't add up. A toy company would never do this. It would be like if they made a Max Shreck, Rachel Dawes or Ramirez and Stephens, it just doesn't happen. The fact that the name on the Walmart listing is ""GCPD Blake" instead of simply "GCPD Blake" is even more puzzling. Is this Grayson, Robin? Does "GCPD" mean there may be other versions of the figure, like for example The Joker and"Interrogation Joker"? Unless Mattel has gone completely insane there's no way they would spend time and money on tooling or producing a figure of Levitt in a police attire. They just wouldn't.

Speaking of which, Ras is also in that line up. Whether it's just a "Begins" figure or something more has yet to be revealed. The listing alone may confirm that he's indeed in Rises. Exciting times.

Can't tell you enough how great those observations are. Yeah, there's definitely something more to it.

Although the Ra's toy is probably a younger version of him played by Pence maybe. That's what I think at least.

[*Whiplash*]

Batman and Robin Bruce Wayne and John Blake..

http://www.caughtonset.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/joseph-christian.jpg

:awesome:

[CapedCrusader14]

Looking at that picture almost makes me want him to be Robin.

Almost.

[バット人]

Thanks craigdbfan. Again, that and the pics we've gotten with Wayne and "Blake" hanging out around and driving around Gotham make me think there's something more to it then simply "John Blake, GCPD officer". The fact that his character and Cotillard were more or less announced in the same fashion that Hardy and Hathaway were is more food for thought.

As far as the toy line goes, this wouldn't be the first time a toy company "spoils" something critical to the films. It happens more times than people would imagine. I remember WB trying to keep Terminator Salvation under wraps with the Marcus Wright character and the toy line ruined it. They originally planned to keep that hidden but once it was leaked they just put the reveal in the trailer.

Mattel tried with Batman Begins with the "fake" Asian Ken Watanabe and a separate "Ducard" figure but that soon changed when Toys R Us got an exclusive Neeson Ras Al Ghul figure to promote the film. There are other examples but the most recent one would be the effect that the merchandise of the new Spider-Man has had on the film, most notably the Lizard.

[craigdbfan]

John Blake having a conversation with one of the boys from the orphanage also lends credence to the idea as well.

Blake escorting Wayne as you mentioned is another indicator that there's something going on. It doesn't seem like Wayne is getting arrested at all and it seems they know each other on a far more personal basis.

[Sharkboy]

he supposedly already has 2 partners by the end of the film in catwoman and gordon, if he were to end in any way it would be in a way that would render the idea and concept of a "batman" completely useless....so there is no conceivable (or good way) to make john blake robin, nightwing or batman 2.

He's a cop...I always thought the idea of making one of the semi-major roles a normal beat cop was very "year one" of them. Seeing a more personal insight into the GCPD (outside of gordon) is something I've always wanted to see in a batman film...and we nearly got it in TDK.

[croboy82]

I think Batman doesn't need more partners so I'm torn in this. This whole figure debate confuses me though :)

[Llama_Shepherd]

Batman and Robin Bruce Wayne and John Blake..

http://www.caughtonset.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/joseph-christian.jpg

:awesome:


They definitely look the part of Batman & Robin. And until I see the film, I'm just going to believe Levitt is Nolan's version of Robin.

[I Am The Knight]

You are correct. I believe a movie Gordon is finally set to appear in a 2 pack of some kind. It's a shame people have had to wait 7 years for an official movie figure of the Oldman Gordon.

Yep. If the character isn't first tier or second tier, FROM the comics, the chances of a figure being made are nill. With Blake it's strange, I mean, he's not from the comics unlike Alfred, Fox, Gordon (until now) and other characters who are, essentially from the source material who aren't part of these merchandise deals. Yet a "made up" character, this secondary character, some "John Smith" nobody is getting one? There's something strange there. Batman, Bane, Catwoman, Ras, JOHN BLAKE? It just doesn't add up. A toy company would never do this. It would be like if they made a Max Shreck, Rachel Dawes or Ramirez and Stephens, it just doesn't happen. The fact that the name on the Walmart listing is ""GCPD Blake" instead of simply "GCPD Blake" is even more puzzling. Is this Grayson, Robin? Does "GCPD" mean there may be other versions of the figure, like for example The Joker and"Interrogation Joker"? Unless Mattel has gone completely insane there's no way they would spend time and money on tooling or producing a figure of Levitt in a police attire. They just wouldn't.

Speaking of which, Ras is also in that line up. Whether it's just a "Begins" figure or something more has yet to be revealed. The listing alone may confirm that he's indeed in Rises. Exciting times.

RA'S....RA'SH AL GHUL.... :wow:

I think they are making a Blake figure because he's some kind of heroic dude that people would think is cool. He's young after all :awesome: So I don't think it necessarily means he's Robin or Bruce's "personal trainer" (not saying you're saying that).

[The Morningstar]

It's pretty obvious that his real name is Richard Grayson.

[Llama_Shepherd]

O rly?

[The Morningstar]

Yes. Very obvious. It's just as obvious as Mr Reese being Riddler in TDK. More so in fact.

[Broker]

What is St Swithun's within the film?

[Llama_Shepherd]

Yes. Very obvious. It's just as obvious as Mr Reese being Riddler in TDK. More so in fact.

Ah, gotcha.

[elgaz]

Nolan has never officially stated that Robin would never feature in his films. However, there were comments from him and Goyer that made it seem the chances of Robin appearing would be fairly unlikely -


"Dick Grayson's still in a crib somewhere. I seriously doubt I will even be involved when Robin's in the franchise." – Christopher Nolan

"[Including Robin in Nolan's Batman film] would be tricky." – David Goyer
I don't think the traditional representation of Robin - as Batman's 24/7 sidekick and housemate, in a red/green/yellow suit and cape - would work in Nolan's film.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if he went with the metaphorical angle instead, and had this fairly young cop representing all the best qualities of Robin. An orphan, like Wayne, working for GCPD to do good, but also aiding Batman (when all the other cops are after him) in a less hands-on way. While Gordon has always been Batman's man on the inside, John Blake could be the one with his ears to the ground for Batman - working the streets with the other lower-level cops.

It would be cool to see some introduction to their relationship and how it formed. Perhaps Batman saved his life at some point.

As for the John Blake name - well, if this is Robin, I wouldn't be surprised if that was an adoptive name, which would throw us off the scent. Perhaps at some point in the film there would be a twist/reveal that his real birth name was Dick Grayson.

[Broker]

As for the John Blake name - well, if this is Robin, I wouldn't be surprised if that was an adoptive name, which would throw us off the scent. Perhaps at some point in the film there would be a twist/reveal that his real birth name was Dick Grayson.

Exactly what I was thinking. Is this his connection to St Swithuns?

[Blue Sugar]

I don't think the traditional representation of Robin - as Batman's 24/7 sidekick and housemate, in a red/green/yellow suit and cape - would work in Nolan's film.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if he went with the metaphorical angle instead, and had this fairly young cop representing all the best qualities of Robin. An orphan, like Wayne, working for GCPD to do good, but also aiding Batman (when all the other cops are after him) in a less hands-on way. While Gordon has always been Batman's man on the inside, John Blake could be the one with his ears to the ground for Batman - working the streets with the other lower-level cops.

It would be cool to see some introduction to their relationship and how it formed. Perhaps Batman saved his life at some point.

As for the John Blake name - well, if this is Robin, I wouldn't be surprised if that was an adoptive name, which would throw us off the scent. Perhaps at some point in the film there would be a twist/reveal that his real birth name was Dick Grayson.

I don't think this will happen, but I would love it.

[JStorm]

All sound theories; but there are already too many major parts moving to make this film roll. Adding a twist within a twist for Robin seems like too much. Anything is possible - this is just not plausible.

Blake MAY embody some qualities; but Nolan is much more clever to be so blunt as to say "he you Robin fans out there. . . this one's for you."

[The_Raganork]

John Blake having a conversation with one of the boys from the orphanage also lends credence to the idea as well.

Don't know Swithin's place in the film all together but I would expect that Blake is being given to us as the character that represents Gotham. His one character embodies the average citizen. He's subject to error, sometimes he picks his allies wrong but ultimately he wants the best for Gotham and when things start to go to hell its not very clear if anyone is going to get out of this mess alive.

He's got a heart but again, we shouldn't look at it as "if he's doing something else...he must be someone else"

His place in the film is important but I don't think we should be expecting a reveal of some kind. He's John Blake beat Cop but that itself is A LOT to say within the context of the film.

He's one of the few still fighting for Gotham when the chips seem stacked against them. Bane has masterminded the loss of an entire police force, Batman is missing, the people have either fled, hide or have gone with Bane. There's a handful of people still willing to fight for Gotham and John Blake is one of them.

Blake escorting Wayne as you mentioned is another indicator that there's something going on. It doesn't seem like Wayne is getting arrested at all and it seems they know each other on a far more personal basis.

Wayne is under protection. Riots of people against corporate greed have been kidnapping and assaulting the rich throughout Gotham. Also it appears Wayne is having some money issues. In the scene where we see Blake and Wayne Together outside of Wayne Enterprises, Bruce's Lambo is being repossessed or taken away, which is why he has to be driven by the police.

I don't think they're necessarily working together but Wayne is aware that he's trying to make a difference and as Batman there's someone else he can trust.

I don't think they'll be coordinating plans of attack with one another directly but through Gordon they probably have an understanding (albeit cold at first) that they need each other to overcome this disaster.

[elgaz]

Did you guys see the 'easter egg' in the trailer about Robin? Some guy in the crowd at the football game (extras who were asked to bring their own placards, etc) held up a big 'R' but it's got the traditional font used for Robin's name. It's quite distinctive, but whether Nolan ever noticed it or not is open to discussion!

[elgaz]

Found it. Those clever Batfans eh? :D

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz290/elgaz/289738718.jpg

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz290/elgaz/robin-1-batman-1991-dc-comic-book-770e1.jpg

[JStorm]

Did you guys see the 'easter egg' in the trailer about Robin? Some guy in the crowd at the football game (extras who were asked to bring their own placards, etc) held up a big 'R' but it's got the traditional font used for Robin's name. It's quite distinctive, but whether Nolan ever noticed it or not is open to discussion!

It wasn't Nolan. One of the Hypsters were there and he and his friends did that.

[elgaz]

Someone from here? That's awesome lol.

Surprised Nolan never noticed, with his eye for detail.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Darknight7 to be exact, he's a hype artist.

[Great Mind(s)]

I bet Nolan noticed it while reviewing the footage...
Were people given the yellow clothes to wear?

[venus_ice]

In 3 days, a new person will come here and say "hey guys I know this doesn't make sense but I still feel like Blake is Robin". And we'll cycle through this same **** again.

He isn't. :funny:

[JStorm]

Someone from here? That's awesome lol.

Surprised Nolan never noticed, with his eye for detail.

Between his team, and Goyer, I'm pretty sure they noticed. For me, this is a clear indication that Robin IS NOT in the film. Dunno - just seems less like Nolan, less classy, to have that "R" so apparent, then to just have Robin show up.

I can understand where the purists are coming from, stretching hope for hope that Blake is Robin.

Yet there is one factor we've yet to bring up: The WB would not keep, and/or let, Robin be a secret like this. Way to much to lose. And if Nolan some how got them to understand that this was a twist, it would be leaked by now. Look how the ninja's caught on to and learned about Talia/Tate.

[JStorm]

I bet Nolan noticed it while reviewing the footage...
Were people given the yellow clothes to wear?

Pretty sure they were given a few clues as to what to wear, etc.

[The_Raganork]

I bet Nolan noticed it while reviewing the footage...
Were people given the yellow clothes to wear?

They were instructed to wear Yellow as it is one of the Team's colors

[Great Mind(s)]

That's cool, the team is basically based off of Batman.

[Great Mind(s)]

That's cool, the team is basically based off of Batman.

Which kind of makes me wonder what the general Gotham public thinks of him at the 8 year later time...is he a myth? Actually it kind of sounds like the New Jersey Devils...

[The_Raganork]

I think he's more of a non-issue. People see crime is ending and Batman may still be out there but they're all aware its coming to an end.

I think Wayne is more of a myth. I think he's put himself into seclusion and no one knows much about him anymore. 8 years in obscurity.

[Frodo]

Between his team, and Goyer, I'm pretty sure they noticed. For me, this is a clear indication that Robin IS NOT in the film. Dunno - just seems less like Nolan, less classy, to have that "R" so apparent, then to just have Robin show up.

I can understand where the purists are coming from, stretching hope for hope that Blake is Robin.

Yet there is one factor we've yet to bring up: The WB would not keep, and/or let, Robin be a secret like this. Way to much to lose. And if Nolan some how got them to understand that this was a twist, it would be leaked by now. Look how the ninja's caught on to and learned about Talia/Tate.

Yeah, I don't think Blake is Robin, but he may basically serve that function sans the suit. Much like Rameriz in TDK was basically Montoya and the other cop who wanted to beat up Joker was Bullock, Blake may be alot closer to Grayson in terms of characterization.

[Citadel30]

I think he's more of a non-issue. People see crime is ending and Batman may still be out there but they're all aware its coming to an end.

I think Wayne is more of a myth. I think he's put himself into seclusion and no one knows much about him anymore. 8 years in obscurity.

In the trailer shot that shows him walking up to the silver platter lid which shows his reflection, did anyone notice that all of the tables in the background were covered with sheets, as if the house wasnt lived in for quite some time. Its at the 0:17 second in the trailer.

Rags, this could go hand in hand with what you are referencing. Maybe Bruce actually leaves Gotham for awhile or just keeps himself locked in a wing of Wayne Manor for a while.

[The_Raganork]

Yeah it did look like Wayne manor was either in the process of being moved in or out of.

I think after TDK he moves into Wayne Manor but doesn't dress anything up, he hasn't got the energy or the want. So it just sits their kind of stale.

[Blue Sugar]

This movie will rule!

Wait what is this thread about now again?

:cwink:

[ron1705]

I think Wayne is more of a myth. I think he's put himself into seclusion and no one knows much about him anymore. 8 years in obscurity.

Sounds a bit like Howard Hughes, which is no surprise with Nolan directing.

[elgaz]

Or he could be coming back to Wayne manor after his spell in whatever jail he's been in. Wasn't part of Wayne manor similarly covered in sheets after his absence in Batman Begins, or am I imagining things?

[croboy82]

The covering sheets are a bit confusing. So Wayne manor must have been finished withing those 8 years. So did he move there and then covered things, cause he left or what else?

When you move in, you don't cover things up at first.

[xisaacx]

JGL is Azrael

[Oruku Saki]

JGL is the Go**amn Spectre!

[xisaacx]

JGL is the Go**amn Spectre!

lmao ok

[KnightInBlack]

What about the possibility that Blake is a CIA agent that infiltrates the GPD? Reporting back all info about Bats to the Feds.

[Broker]

Apologies if this has been said before, I was reading "War Games" last night and noticed something that may be interesting.

As some may know, Batman is trying to reclaim the City which has decended into chaos when one of his War Game scenarios is inadvertently triggered. The Police, under the leadership Commissioner Atkins, are no longer working with Batman seeing all vigilantes as the enemy. Batman needs the Polices help so they can work together to end the chaos in Gotham and restore order to the streets.

Batman announces over all Police frequencies that he wants the Police to follow his orders rather than the Commissioners to drive the gangs to a specific location. Initially the Officers refuse asking why they should take orders from a vigilante, however an "Officer Blake" believes that Batman's plan is their only hope to save the city and convinces them to follow his orders and work together.

Just thought I would throw that out there.

[Citadel30]

Well, there it is. Sounds about right.

[KalMart]

Blake is a resurrected Al Ghul.

[Fozzie]

I hear that John Blake is really...

John Blake

[Batman jr.]

JGL is...









A helping cop. I don't understand why people keep moaning about him being Robin or not. We have already so much going on, it would be unbearable to have him in it.

[Fozzie]

JGL is...









A helping cop. I don't understand why people keep moaning about him being Robin or not. We have already so much going on, it would be unbearable to have him in it.

if he IS grayson and nolan does it well, thats fine by me. i just seriously seriously doubt thats the case. because for one thing, we already have a character in this movie with a hidden identity. so its redundant. there's already so much to cover, like you say. plus there is the long track record of, for the most part, actors nolan casts in these batman movies simply being original characters rather than adapted characters from the comics.

[Batman jr.]

He is not Grayson, for the love of God.

[Fozzie]

He is not Grayson, for the love of God.

simmer down, little johnny. :p

you can't say for sure what nolan is up to. ive heard the arguments for and against this. its not a bad idea story wise but im just skeptical about it actually happening

[Batman jr.]

simmer down, little johnny. :p

you can't say for sure what nolan is up to. ive heard the arguments for and against this. its not a bad idea story wise but im just skeptical about it actually happening

With Nolan you can indeed expect the unexpected, but not with this.

We already have Marion & Anne with dual identities (and Chris of course), big secrets enough.

[Fozzie]

With Nolan you can indeed expect the unexpected, but not with this.


hey well that's like, your opinion, man. :cwink:

[Batman jr.]

hey well that's like, your opinion, man. :cwink:

As is yours :cwink:

Freedom of speech! :word:

[KalMart]

He's Batgirl.

[Batman jr.]

He's Batgirl.

No no.

He's Harley Quinzel.

[madcowre]

You all should stop. It's obvious he is infiltrating Gotham and is really

Cobra Commander

...OH. :word:

[KnightInBlack]

He's an older super intelligent being assuming a younger human form... in your dreams.

[Sharkboy]

If he was 5 years older (or at least matured in the face a bit more) bulked up A LOT. he would have made a fantastic Bruce Wayne. Shame.

[Batman jr.]

If he was 5 years older (or at least matured in the face a bit more) bulked up A LOT. he would have made a fantastic Bruce Wayne. Shame.

He is a cool dude no doubt.

[Sharkboy]

I cannot wait for Looper to see him display more traditional action film chops. I've heard it really is something special.

[TIM BLAKE]

Funny how i posted this weeks ago about JGL in the trailer...I still think this is some forshadowing subtly sone by nolan. I mean coincidence that nolan just had JGL in that scene standing directly in a angle so we'd purposely see him wearing a mask in the trailer for the ones who can catch it...JGL will be a form a robin i'm callin it now and bookmarking this post to prove i was spot on from the start by finding this clever bit by nolan.''Are you watching closely?'' http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/01/15/seeing-robin-in-the-dark-knight-rises/

[craigdbfan]

http://i.imgur.com/DQXA6.gif

[Rhames]

That article is horrible. Sorry I don't think robin is in the film.



Oh and ward is on the jersey because that is the football player Hines Ward.

[TIM BLAKE]

That article is horrible. Sorry I don't think robin is in the film.



Oh and ward is on the jersey because that is the football player Hines Ward.

I didn't write it. I was just stoked that it was acknoledged that JGL was in that scene and people are using their brains instead of completely writing a form of robin out of this film.Not that controvesial of a theory considering Dick Grayson has been around one less year than batman.This isn't B lasephmy folks just a theory based on PROOF that I noticed weeks ago that nolan really is...a clever girl:awesome:

Again PROOF OF FORSHADOWING FOR THOSE WHO CAN CATCH DELIVERED BY NOLAN ON PURPOSE...Is my point ladies and gents.:fhm:

[ggghhh]

Interseting observation, Tim Blake! Wish I'd seen it sooner. :yay:

[Rhames]

Not sure if serious.........

[lordofthenerds]

Funny how i posted this weeks ago about JGL in the trailer...I still think this is some forshadowing subtly sone by nolan. I mean coincidence that nolan just had JGL in that scene standing directly in a angle so we'd purposely see him wearing a mask in the trailer for the ones who can catch it...JGL will be a form a robin i'm callin it now and bookmarking this post to prove i was spot on from the start by finding this clever bit by nolan.''Are you watching closely?'' http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/01/15/seeing-robin-in-the-dark-knight-rises/
:hehe:

[Majik1387]

How dare he wear a mask at a masquerade.... :dry:

The woman he's dancing with is wearing a mask too. Batgirl? Harley Quinn?

[ggghhh]

I think it's interesting enough if he's there at the party, but of course it's likely he'd be wearing a mask.
It does look similar to Robin's mask in the 1940's TV show, if nowhere else, while most of the other men seem to have shiny masks on.

[rogue_agent]

No no.

He's Harley Quinzel.

No, he's Harvey Quinzel, Harley's father.

[TIM BLAKE]

How dare he wear a mask at a masquerade.... :dry:

The woman he's dancing with is wearing a mask too. Batgirl? Harley Quinn?


If you choose not to think outside the box,i can't help you.:word:

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Even if it is Joseph... He is wearing a mask at a masquerade ball.

Nolan doesn't do fanboy wanking... so that scene (in the trailer) has no bearing on your argument.

[ggghhh]

Nolan doesn't do fanboy wanking... so that scene (in the trailer) has no bearing on your argument.

I don't get what you're saying here.
Bear in mind this is possibly the only scene in the film where Selina's wearing proper cat ears.

edit: I agree if you're saying the actors aren't arranged in that scene just so he'd appear in trailer.

[TIM BLAKE]

I don't get what you're saying here.

edit: I agree if you're saying the actors aren't arranged in that scene just so he'd appear in trailer.

Actors all have their marks where their supposed to be in a scene...

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Actors all have their marks where their supposed to be in a scene...

Yes... Christian and Anne would have rigid marks. Extras floating behind Christian, dancing... not so much.

[Majik1387]

Eh while I'm inclined to agree that Nolan didn't specifically plan for JGL to be in the background so he could fit into the trailer, I don't think he didn't plan for JGL to be in the background of the scene.

[Just_Human]

I think it's interesting enough if he's there at the party, but of course it's likely he'd be wearing a mask.
It does look similar to Robin's mask in the 1940's TV show, if nowhere else, while most of the other men seem to have shiny masks on.

Maybe he is alteady his bodyguard at this point of the movie, and he is just keeping an eye on him

[Wolvieboy17]

Oh lordy.... I know Christopher Nolan is a great filmmaker. Not every single thing he does is a piece of some great big mystery puzzle.

[madcowre]

Is it even JGL? on one hand it kind of looks like him...but on the other, his face looks kind of different at a certain angle. :huh:

[venus_ice]

I don't think so. Any skinny guy with short hair can look like him with a mask on. :dry:

[kvz5]

Well if some can believe that the cop on the left is JGL (in the pic below) then I suppose it shouldn't be surprising that some think that the guy in the mask is Joe. I mean I've actually read comments at other sites that swear that the guy in the Batsuit in some of the press pics is Joe (even if it's clearly Bale) and that it's a clue that he's taking over Batman in the end of the movie. :dry: I'm not saying that it's impossible for him to be Robin or what not but some of the speculations are getting weirder and weirder by the moment.

http://balegasm.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/120169554.jpg

[AnneFan]

I mean there are even some who are claiming that the guy in the Batsuit in some of the press pics is Joe and that it's a clue that he's taking over Batman in the end of the movie. :dry:

How bizarre. :dry:

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't mind the idea of John Blake somehow becoming a protege or something of Batmans but to simply take over the mantle from a martial artist superhero as a beatcop... I dunno.

Personally, I still think people are reading into this too much. I think it's more likely that Blake could be a replacement for Gordon than for Batman.

[Mike_D202]

This reminds me of when people thought the kid from Batman Begins was gonna be Robin.

[KnightInBlack]

That comicbook.com article was kinda ridiculous. It may be JGL in the background, but I seriously doubt it foreshadows anything about a Robin connection. But I still think he'll take over for Batman in the end.

[Fabian]

There will simply be no Robin,that's out of the question on all fronts.

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Personally, I still think people are reading into this too much. I think it's more likely that Blake could be a replacement for Gordon than for Batman.

Interesting... never thought of it that way.

Also... every time I look at those set-pics I fall in love with that cowl a little bit more.

[AnneFan]

Interesting... never thought of it that way.

Indeed. If Blake is policeman and nothing more it does add up.

[Fabian]

Indeed. If Blake is policeman and nothing more it does add up.

Duh!

[JonnyQ]

I love the way it circles the ears. Like that is evidence. And if I was to take it seriously, its different ears.

[TIM BLAKE]

This reminds me of when people thought the kid from Batman Begins was gonna be Robin.


That little kid could be John Blake(Dick Grayson) all grown up now... would be a reasonable theory considering the timeline and we dont know blakes age in the movie yet.

[kvz5]

No. That kid is now a king.

[MagnarTheGreat]

All hail Joffrey.

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I wonder if the other kids believed him? :o

[Rocketman]

Well, it's him, isn't it. Everybody's been talking about him.

[mbnasir6]

I don't know if that was serious, but the oldest that kid could have been is 12, you can't be suggesting that JGL is playing a 20/21 year old cop who was trusted to protect batman?

[lordofthenerds]

That little kid could be John Blake(Dick Grayson) all grown up now... would be a reasonable theory considering the timeline and we dont know blakes age in the movie yet.
Why didn't I think think of that? I knew that kid was bound to do great things.

[AnneFan]

I wonder if the other kids believed him? :o

He probably took the device to show and tell and was beaten up for it.

[TIM BLAKE]

I don't know if that was serious, but the oldest that kid could have been is 12, you can't be suggesting that JGL is playing a 20/21 year old cop who was trusted to protect batman?

yeah,Im only 23 JGL is 30 and he looks early 20's.Not to mention he doesn't know Bruce is batman regardless in reality it is possible to be a rookie beat cop at age 21-22.

[Majik1387]

JGL does not look that young

[Anita18]

JGL does not look that young
Actually the TDKR trailer is the first time where he's looked like an actual adult to me. :funny:

My bf is the same way. 30 but looks like he's in high school. One of these days....

[Travesty]

I'm still laughing at the circled ears.

-see, that's an ear. JGL also has an ear. Boom! Science!

[Kryptonian Warrior]

I hear that John Blake is really...

John Blake

Well I have actually heard that John Blake is actually...

Mr. and Mrs. Blake's son

:ninja:

[Majik1387]

Nope. He's actually Terry. :o

[MagnarTheGreat]

If I had a nickel for every character JGL's been rumored to be in this film, since summer 2010, I'd have at least a quarter.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I'm seriously going to laugh so hard come July 20th, 2012 when people see that he's just John Blake, a cop. Not some pseudo version of Robin or anything like that.

[Mike_D202]

I have no doubt in my mind that he is assisting Batman in some form but I doubt he's Robin nor the new Batman replacement.

[Travesty]

I have no doubt in my mind that he is assisting Batman in some form but I doubt he's Robin nor the new Batman replacement.
But his ear......

His ear.

[Mike_D202]

But his ear......

His ear.

The sideburns is what caught me off guard, the writer of the article says "JGL's sideburns are long and they are long in the background character!" yet his sideburns are very short in the official still. Wtf.

[bestever23]

The rumor is......John Blake is truly John Blake but with Talia and Bane ratting out to the Public that Bruce Wayne is Batman. Bruce offers Blake to be his Double. So we can have a scene at the end where Bruce is next to Batman. Now this is all a "Rumor" but you never know ;)

[LibidoLoca]

What no floating Bat suit to bail him out? :o

[xisaacx]

Nope. He's actually Terry. :o

Agreed

[chamber-music]

Everyone knows John Blake is really Batgirl

[kvz5]

I really think he's Talia.

[blueblazer2]

I'm surprised that he got snubbed for a oscar nomination . I thought 50/50 was one of the best movies last year

[rogue_agent]

He got snubbed because he's playing Batman's little sidekick, the colourful Robin. :oldrazz:

[croboy82]

I still think he will be .....

Riddler.......jk

:(

[Laderlappen]

Saw 50/50 yesterday. Great performance.

[Mike_D202]

Yeah my friend brought it over with beer and said "this movie is a comedy lets watch it before the bar." Needless to say it wasn't as funny as we thought LOL.

[MrWayne]

JGL's character won't have enough time to develop to be anything other than a cop. And not for nothing, I would think we would've seen more of him hinting at anything out of ALL the leaks and set pics that have come out. There has been nothing substancial given to us to even assume that he's anything more than a supporting actor.... its just wishfull thinking imo.

[gorillanesthsia]

John Blake is a cop...

Cops say "FREEZE!" when they want people to stop.

It snows in the movie.

"Blake" sounds like "Flake"...

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/shocked/grand/shocked_boy_gif.gif


JOHN BLAKE IS ACTUALLY MR. FREEZE!

[venus_ice]

How could I deny those clues??? It's so clear to me now.

:awesome:

[TIM BLAKE]

'John Flake' .....lol:awesome: If you check the imdb page DKR Glen Powell and Massi Furlon wonder who these guys are playing? Since JGL is obviously I mean with out a doubt in every way because yes...probably I hope Dick Grayson.

[lordofthenerds]

'John Flake' .....lol:awesome: If you check the imdb page DKR Glen Powell and Massi Furlon wonder who these guys are playing? Since JGL is obviously I mean with out a doubt in every way because yes...probably I hope Dick Grayson.
John Blake...Tim Blake.... Tim Drake... Hmmm...