Don payne writing thor 2.

[Still A ThorFan]

He worked on the script for the first Thor, but he also wrote FF2 and some other comedy. I'm not happy about this. He is probably the one who put those stupid jokes in the first Thor.

[Avenger]

Don Payne is just the first of probably many screenwriters. Thor 2 will likely be a team effort, like the first movie was.

[Flint Marko]

^ Exactly. If anything, it's good that someone from the first film is working on this script.

[cherokeesam]

But it's not good that that someone from the first film is Don Payne.

Don Payne is a writer for The Simpsons. And not really the good Simpsons, either. The episodes he was credited for are co-writes. After The Simpsons, he tried his hand at superhero films with FFROTSS and My Super Ex-Girlfriend...

...(pauses through awkward silence)...

Ahem. Then he had a partial credit on the Thor script, which is generally described as being written by Ashley Miller and Zack Stentz, the two leads. (I'd say the O.P. is spot on when he says that Payne "is probably the one who put those stupid jokes in the first Thor.") After that, he wrote the script for Maximum Ride, in pre-pro at Columbia....and was promptly asked for a rewrite that "featured more action."

This is *definitely* not a stellar resume to submit for the sequel to a fledgling franchise for a fledgling movie studio trying to get their footing.

[bullets]

Don Payne is just the first of probably many screenwriters. Thor 2 will likely be a team effort, like the first movie was.


I was gonna break something but then I read this. Hopefully your right.

[Spider-Fan]

That, and remember this: Zak Penn is not a good writer. But, he wrote TIH's early drafts. TIH was a good movie. If they can get enough out of Penn to touch it up into a good script, same can be done for Don Payne.

[ultimatefan]

I hope it´s a team effort. Not happy about the guy who wrote FF2 qn my super ex-girlfriend writing Thor 2.

[JAK®]

That, and remember this: Zak Penn is not a good writer. But, he wrote TIH's early drafts. TIH was a good movie. If they can get enough out of Penn to touch it up into a good script, same can be done for Don Payne.
TIH is a flawed film, however, and I attribute it to having a fairly typical Zak Penn plot.

[Doctor Jones]

I hope to God he won't be the only person writing this film.

[Chewy]

It's funny how people in this thread are mentioning Thor being written by multiple people and then acting as though Payne was the sole writer on Silver Surfer.

[Denny67]

He worked on the script for the first Thor, but he also wrote FF2 and some other comedy. I'm not happy about this. He is probably the one who put those stupid jokes in the first Thor.

Or he could just as easily be the one who is responsible for some of the best moments during the movie. At any rate, don't allow the absence of fact take away a perfectly good oprtuinity to assume the worst and complain. :whatever:

[misjuevos]

i'd rather wait and see before jumping to the conclusion that it's bad just yet. try to look at it this way. he wrote FF2 and super ex-girlfriend, but also wrote for thor. you are trying to compare movies from Fox Studios at that time to a movie from Marvel Studios now. same writer but different companies. wouldn't this actually show that the companies are going about things differently as far as scripts go in this instance. maybe there is more freedom or better care taken with the characters at marvel studios. or maybe the collective is just better at marvel studios compared to the previous films he worked on.

i wouldn't blame the writer for the outcome of the film since the director interprets/decides what to keep and what to cut from the script and film. it's not really so black and white when it comes to a writer's script. how many times has a script been modified since it's initial run? a director doesn't read the script and say perfect im gonna do this word for word. no he comes on and gives his 2 cents then takes it where he sees it in his head.

like i said just wait and see, it could be good or bad. no use worrying just yet. after you see the movie then you can complain about it.

[bunk]

I'm more worried about who will be directing at this point.

[Vartha]

Well with Kenneth helping out I wouldn't worry too much.

[ddddeeee]

Branagh will be like Burton on Batman Forever, they shove his name on so fans don't freak out but he contributes pretty much nothing. Branagh has his own movie for 2013.

[Silvermoth]

Meh, I kind of wish someone else had the chance to write it so he could do other things. I think his influence helped make the film a) too jokey and b) too silly like FF2 was.

That is my opinion though.

[HighFivingMF]

Maybe Thor will drop the hammer on his foot! :awesome:

[cherokeesam]

you are trying to compare movies from Fox Studios at that time to a movie from Marvel Studios now. same writer but different companies. wouldn't this actually show that the companies are going about things differently as far as scripts go in this instance. maybe there is more freedom or better care taken with the characters at marvel studios. or maybe the collective is just better at marvel studios compared to the previous films he worked on.



Good point, and that may be the saving grace from this particular bit of indigestible information. Whether the godawful gaffes in FF were directly attributable to Don Payne, or instead to meddling from Fox suits, the fact remains that Marvel Studios is obviously *far* more protective of the authenticity of their scripts and characters.

So while Fox would have allowed/ encouraged/ ordered Don Payne to royally screw up the FF scripts, Marvel has not/will not allow him to do the same with Thor or any other Marvel property.

[Spidermatrix53]

I really, really, really hope that he isn't the only writer.

[Vartha]

Well Protosevich did a damn good job on the first draft, I don't see why not give him another chance now that everything is layed out

[Still A ThorFan]

Agreed, or what about Fraction K G? It would make sense for one of the writers of the comic to at least outline the movie.

[Still A ThorFan]

Good point, and that may be the saving grace from this particular bit of indigestible information. Whether the godawful gaffes in FF were directly attributable to Don Payne, or instead to meddling from Fox suits, the fact remains that Marvel Studios is obviously *far* more protective of the authenticity of their scripts and characters.

So while Fox would have allowed/ encouraged/ ordered Don Payne to royally screw up the FF scripts, Marvel has not/will not allow him to do the same with Thor or any other Marvel property.

They allowed Iron Man 2 to get screwed up. Remember the guys who wrote that are the ones who wrote Tropic Thunder.

[misjuevos]

don't forget marvel studios only makes comic book movies at this point. it's their bread and butter, they will try very hard to protect the properties.

[Hotwire]

Or he could just as easily be the one who is responsible for some of the best moments during the movie. At any rate, don't allow the absence of fact take away a perfectly good oprtuinity to assume the worst and complain. :whatever:

We can paraphrase that into the fanboy mission statement!

"Never shall we let the mere absence of facts impede upon our opportunities to assume the worst and complain to all who will listen, as well as those who won't."

[Gamma Burst]

We can paraphrase that into the fanboy mission statement!

"Never shall we let the mere absence of facts impede upon our opportunities to assume the worst and complain to all who will listen, as well as those who won't."

So true.:funny:

[Blader5489]

That, and remember this: Zak Penn is not a good writer. But, he wrote TIH's early drafts. TIH was a good movie. If they can get enough out of Penn to touch it up into a good script, same can be done for Don Payne.

Norton heavily rewrote Penn's draft.

[Spider-Fan]

Norton heavily rewrote Penn's draft.

Yes he did. I am sure Don Payne's draft will be heavily rewritten, too.

[ThorThunderGod]

Well Protosevich did a damn good job on the first draft, I don't see why not give him another chance now that everything is layed out


Agree with this 100%. Why the heck not Marvel? I say Protosevich SHOULD be the one to map out Thor's sequel. I mean, come on! He loves Thor.

[Episode29]

It befuddles me why Marvel keeps turning to Penn and Payne. I'm guessing because they're easily controlled and closely tied to the company. For some reason, bold outside talent = bad in the Marvel Studios-verse. They really need to be drawing exciting, talented writers into their stable and not relying on the same safe lackies.

This multiple writer business is also problematic. They managed to get away with it on Thor - although few would call the film a masterpiece in any way, shape or form - but too many cooks in the kitchen spells disaster. *Cough* Green Lantern *Cough*. Choose smart right off the bat and the last minute clean-up crew wouldn't be necessary.

[JAK®]

Zak Penn writes scripts that are cheap to film.

[ThorThunderGod]

It befuddles me why Marvel keeps turning to Penn and Payne. I'm guessing because they're easily controlled and closely tied to the company. For some reason, bold outside talent = bad in the Marvel Studios-verse. They really need to be drawing exciting, talented writers into their stable and not relying on the same safe lackies.

This multiple writer business is also problematic. They managed to get away with it on Thor - although few would call the film a masterpiece in any way, shape or form - but too many cooks in the kitchen spells disaster. *Cough* Green Lantern *Cough*. Choose smart right off the bat and the last minute clean-up crew wouldn't be necessary.


Yeah. Probably the same way they rely on Chris Yost for their animated flicks, that has always "befuddled" me, too.

And I also agree about Thor not being a masterpiece. Well, let me clarify that, I did like Thor. No-no, I LOVED Thor. Seriously. Buuuut, somehow, there was something missing in the dialogue, you know? The Asgard stuffs were great. But on the Earth scenes? I dunno. I kind of wish there was some more, ummmm, "gravitas" (that word has been used often in that movie by movie critics). There funny lines, and with multiple viewings, I have seen how different crowds reacted similarly to the same scenes (you know, "I want a horse", "we have a robin hood, xena, jacky chan"), but the Earth scenes lacked weight (except when Thor was about to die, now, THAT has got me choked up every single time). So, yeah, I am agreeing with you, I think they SHOULD improve on the writing this time around, and I hope they wouldn't skimp out on the fight scenes (the Destroyer in under 10 seconds, really?).

[BigThor]

I hope they wouldn't skimp out on the fight scenes (the Destroyer in under 10 seconds, really?).

Heck yeah, I think the fight scenes in Thor were pretty good but they can DEFINATLEY improve on them in Thor 2.

I mean it's Thor, not only is he a powerhouse himself but he also has some very powerful/skilled villains in his enemy list.

[Nokio]

I wouldn't worry about this this guy so much because writers have to write with in the confines of what the studio wants. Fox probably had a checklist of what they wanted and the man didn't have free reign. Studios also say this is gonna cost to much, go back and rewrite, then they bring in other writers for cost effectiveness. I could go on and I could be wrong on this but it most
often is the case. Look at GL. That movie looked like it reeked of studio interference and the suits wanted a checklist of things put in.

I just cant imagine Marvel hiring this guy unless they saw something in him.

To play Devil's advocate for a sec, studios would rather hire a proven writer or director who's had some success in the past despite that person making a mediocre product instead of taking a risk with new talent.

[Hurm...]

I just don't think Don is a very good writer. The writing was not the strong point of Thor, to be honest.