Captain America: News and Speculation X

[Spider-Fan]

Correct me if I am wrong...but isn't this a Captain America forum? Stop discussing how much of a failure Green Lantern is/was, unless you relate it back to Captain America

[HighFivingMF]

She looks entirely different without lipstick.

[Dr Lee]

New interview and pics with Atwell.

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http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/C4/esq-hayley-atwell-1-0811-lg.jpg



http://www.esquire.com/women/women-we-love/hayley-atwell-pictures-0811#img


This woman kills me. :atp:

*Opens link*

:wow:

*Combusts*

[RedSkull]

my my...well ms vale...another rooster in the hen house

[WildcatNC]

My favorite of them.


http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1489/esqhayleyatwell30811lg.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

New interview and pics with Atwell.

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http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/C4/esq-hayley-atwell-1-0811-lg.jpg
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/nI/esq-hayley-atwell-3-0811-lg.jpg
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/n0/esq-hayley-atwell-4-0811-lg.jpg
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/FX/esq-hayley-atwell-2-0811-lg.jpg


http://www.esquire.com/women/women-we-love/hayley-atwell-pictures-0811#img


This woman kills me. :atp:

Whoa Hayley's one hot secret agent :wow:

[captainrogers]

I was all for recasting for the role of Sharon Carter for Cap in modern day..... But screw it.
Atwell for Sharon in Avengers and/or Cap 2!!!!!!!

[captainrogers]

Random thought while looking at this pic:

Wonder if Modern Cap is going to use the pistol, too. It looked cool and made sense for Ultimate WWII Cap, but I don't believe Ultimate (Modern) Cap used a gun (and 616 Cap would've never considered it).
Ultimate (Modern) Cap does use guns. (flamethrowers as well)
616 Cap did use pistols, grenades, etc. during the war as well.
I would prefer Movie Cap in modern times not use a pistol. But wouldn't be absolutely flabbergasted if he used one sparingly.

[BoredGuy]

My favorite of them.


http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1489/esqhayleyatwell30811lg.jpg


I gotta admit, I haven't found her particularly attractive in any of the trailers or pics so far (though her acting chops look good)....

But HOLY S**T does she look slammin in these pictures!

[RedSkull]

it's mostly the slight bit of sag

[Stringer]

No doubt they could use her as Sharon in the sequels. She has a different look in those pics.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Wow, she's hot!

[Brian Braddock]

Atwell doesnt really do it for me styled ala 1940 but I have to say that a contemporary hair and make-up job works wonders.

[Venom'sDad]

No, I don't think it is even the slightest bit related to Mandarin.

What makes you so sure about that?

[MiniBond]

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt45/sf-aggie/mother-of-god-super-troopers.jpg

[Vartha]

Lovely
new interview and pics with atwell.

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http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/c4/esq-hayley-atwell-1-0811-lg.jpg



http://www.esquire.com/women/women-we-love/hayley-atwell-pictures-0811#img


this woman kills me. :atp:

[ElMariachi]

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5885/hothothotp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/hothothotp.jpg/)

[Raiden]

My favorite of them.


http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1489/esqhayleyatwell30811lg.jpg

Wow, I think Atwell is good-looking but she proves that she can also be very sexy if she wants to. :wow: Can't wait to see her in the Capt. America movie.

Btw, I think it is safe to speculate that there'll be a Cap 2 sometimes in 2014 or so. I do hope they will find a way to bring her back, perhaps as Sharon Carter.

[Parker Wayne]

I gotta admit, I haven't found her particularly attractive in any of the trailers or pics so far (though her acting chops look good)....

But HOLY S**T does she look slammin in these pictures!

Really? Not even this one?

http://www.dailyblam.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/watermark/cap_advpromo8.jpg

[Son of Coul]

Since she was first cast I've found her outstandingly attractive. Probably most out of all the MCU gals so far actually.

[Dr Lee]

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5885/hothothotp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/hothothotp.jpg/)

lmao!!

[Doctor Jones]

Good... GOD.

Atwell has always been incredibly attractive to me anyway. But Jesus Christ, I can't resist a sexy English women. She seems to have a great personality too.

[Crimson King]

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5885/hothothotp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/hothothotp.jpg/)

I love this meme. Didn't someone make a version with GL and Thor?

[bunk]

Two featurettes. Sorry if these have been posted.

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[C. Lee]

Two featurettes. Sorry if these have been posted.

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Those were cool...thanks.

[Vartha]

Crud he beat me lol

[herolee10]

Never would have imagined that it was Atwell's idea to have Peggy reach over and touch Steve's chest after he came out of the chamber.lol

[Son of Coul]

I love this meme. Didn't someone make a version with GL and Thor?

Yeah, back when their first trailers were released, someone did one with their money shots. First Thor's hammer ground smash with the reaction guys all psyched, then the now-infamous Green Lantern "I KNOW, RIGHT???" shot with their underwhelmed faces. It's obviously way funnier when you see it rather than have it described, but I dunno where it is now.

[Vartha]

Never would have imagined that it was Atwell's idea to have Peggy reach over and touch Steve's chest after he came out of the chamber.lol
that just sounds.....off.....

[Vartha]

Yeah, back when their first trailers were released, someone did one with their money shots. First Thor's hammer ground smash with the reaction guys all psyched, then the now-infamous Green Lantern "I KNOW, RIGHT???" shot with their underwhelmed faces. It's obviously way funnier when you see it rather than have it described, but I dunno where it is now.
heh I remember that :D

[ElMariachi]

lol, I am suprised you guys remember that picture. I made that one awhile back.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5752/thorvsgreenlantern.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/thorvsgreenlantern.jpg/)

[herolee10]

that just sounds.....off.....

lol, no it's just that I thought the action was written in the script or something that the director originally wanted.

[Marvel]

:oldrazz:New interview and pics with Atwell.

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http://www.esquire.com/women/women-we-love/hayley-atwell-pictures-0811#img


This woman kills me. :atp:

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/FX/esq-hayley-atwell-2-0811-lg.jpg

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/272909002.gif

[Parker Wayne]

:lmao:

[HighFivingMF]

Wow. Nobody took the name "Marvel" until October 2010?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You guys are crazy! lol

[ElMariachi]

reaction guys is my favorite meme. Some of them are so ridiculous and laughable.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5743/tumblrl8ge53q81r1qanb21.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/tumblrl8ge53q81r1qanb21.jpg/)

[jacobed]

:oldrazz:

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/FX/esq-hayley-atwell-2-0811-lg.jpg

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/272909002.gif


Hahahahahahahaha

[Son of Coul]

:oldrazz:

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/FX/esq-hayley-atwell-2-0811-lg.jpg

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/272909002.gif

hahaha awesome :up:

[Vartha]

lol, no it's just that I thought the action was written in the script or something that the director originally wanted.
heh yeah I was kiddin. :D

[Vartha]

:oldrazz:

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/FX/esq-hayley-atwell-2-0811-lg.jpg

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/272909002.gif
hahahaha gotta luv it!

[Parker Wayne]

That Kramer gif with the Hayley Atwell picture is genius!

[Vartha]

You guys are crazy! lol
haha and you women are "silly" lol

[The Caped Knight]

:oldrazz:

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/FX/esq-hayley-atwell-2-0811-lg.jpg

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/272909002.gif

Brilliant, :woot::applaud:funny::lmao:

[Spider-ManHero12]

Never would have imagined that it was Atwell's idea to have Peggy reach over and touch Steve's chest after he came out of the chamber.lol Lol!

[Vartha]

Wow. Nobody took the name "Marvel" until October 2010?
Not sure I personally don't remember anyone else having the name.

[Vartha]

Good lord this page is just loaded tonight. just keep it CLEAN guys lol

[herolee10]

Well needless to say, it's no wonder why Steve would be even more upset when waking up to find out that he no longer has a chance with Peggy anymore.

Heck, after seeing those pics as well, given the difference in hairstyles and make up between a woman in the 40's and today's version, I'd be up for seeing Atwell portray Sharon...I mean they did the same thing with the female lead for Bicentennial Man (starring Robin Williams)

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Well needless to say, it's no wonder why Steve would be even more upset when waking up to find out that he no longer has a chance with Peggy anymore.

Heck, after seeing those pics as well, given the difference in hairstyles and make up between a woman in the 40's and today's version, I'd be up for seeing Atwell portray Sharon...I mean they did the same thing with the female lead for Bicentennial Man (starring Robin Williams)Saying they did the same thing in that terrible Robin Williams comic/drama doesn't exactly inspire confidence...:o

[The Caped Knight]

I gotta say now it makes all the sense in the world why Skinny Steve dive in to catch that grenade from reaching Peggy. It's because he knew what was under that military uniform of her's lol.

[Spider-Fan]

No one make fun of Bicentennial Man. That movie was AWESOME!!! :cmad:

[Son of Coul]

Only two weeks and three days! I'm all jacked up. Then on top of that is Comic-Con then, with possible Avengers footage and if Downey's there he can dish out details for IM3, and Feige can talk Thor 2 and oooh it's all exciting as hell.

[BizarroAids]

I thought Marvel wasn't going to be in Hall H this year.

[Vartha]

I thought Marvel wasn't going to be in Hall H this year.
They aren't. It doesn't mean we won't see anything just because they're not in Hall H

[BizarroAids]

They aren't. It doesn't mean we won't see anything just because they're not in Hall H

True, but wouldn't they hold out for the Expo in August? I forgot where it was.

[Vartha]

I don't recall the Expo name either, but I'm sure they'll have a little something at SDCC, it may not be much but at least SOME concept work would be nice.

[S.A.A.D.]

No one make fun of Bicentennial Man. That movie was AWESOME!!! :cmad:

You're damn right it's awesome! :cmad:

[S.A.A.D.]

Anyways, The First Avenger is 2hrs and 04 minutes according to Cineplex.com.

http://www.cineplex.com/Movies/MovieDetails/Captain-America-The-First-Avenger.aspx?photoPage=2&loc_cookie=AJAX+-+ON

[Spider-Fan]

Didn't Cineplex get Thor's runtime correct back when it was debated?

2hr 4mins is a solid runtime :up:

[BizarroAids]

Yay! A runt time of 2 hours! That's what I like to hear for a Cap movie.:hrt:

[Spider-Fan]

Yay! A runt time of 2 hours! That's what I like to hear for a Cap movie.:hrt:

Runtime of OVER 2hrs :oldrazz:

This is like a reverse 2008. Thor got a runtime similar to TIH's, and Cap gets a runtime about the same as IM1. It is ironic.

[Quasimod0]

over 2 hours!

[BizarroAids]

Runtime of OVER 2hrs :oldrazz:

This is like a reverse 2008. Thor got a runtime similar to TIH's, and Cap gets a runtime about the same as IM1. It is ironic.

I was counting the 4 minutes as credits/post credits time. lol

[Spider-Fan]

I was counting the 4 minutes as credits/post credits time. lol

True, it will be about 2hrs of footage, which is about the same as IM1 and IM2. I think this is a solid runtime :up:

The neighborhood of 2hrs for an origin film tends to be where it works well.

[peterparker0077]

I know I've been out for a few days, but I picked up the Capt America Movie Magazine... and it as an image that's a huge give a way for how the Cosmic Cube comes into the movie... has this been discussed already?

[Spider-Fan]

I know I've been out for a few days, but I picked up the Capt America Movie Magazine... and it as an image that's a huge give a way for how the Cosmic Cube comes into the movie... has this been discussed already?

If you post it, SPOILER TAG IT!!!

[Suzanne78]

Yay! Good run time for Captain America :) I can't remember, but how long was GL's run time?

[Spider-Fan]

Yay! Good run time for Captain America :) I can't remember, but how long was GL's run time?

Something like 1hr 45mins for GL (or 105mins).

[Saitou Hajime]

Runtime of OVER 2hrs :oldrazz:

This is like a reverse 2008. Thor got a runtime similar to TIH's, and Cap gets a runtime about the same as IM1. It is ironic.

Hmm... is this a coincidence or a pattern? The films with the more "human" heroes get 2 hour+ runtimes, while the ones with the blatant metas are trimmed down?

[Spideyfan93]

http://media.**************.com/images/uploads/esq2.jpg

.............................................ha... Ham...HAMANA HAMANA HAMANA!

Where have you been all my life?!

[Spider-Fan]

Hmm... is this a coincidence or a pattern? The films with the more "human" heroes get 2 hour+ runtimes, while the ones with the blatant metas are trimmed down?

It is funny that in both cases, the more expensive movie was shorter. Coincidence, or conspiracy! :cwink:

[co2]

That Kramer gif with the Hayley Atwell picture is genius!

I almost fell out of my chair I laughed so hard! lol

[Spideyfan93]

Must get to 2000 before July 22nd so I can frame the biggest possible avatar of my new crush.


Jesus Christ she is HOT!

[BizarroAids]

True, it will be about 2hrs of footage, which is about the same as IM1 and IM2. I think this is a solid runtime :up:

The neighborhood of 2hrs for an origin film tends to be where it works well.

All origin movies should be two hours or more, otherwise you are just getting robbed!! Actually Thor seemed longer than it really was, but I guess in some places the shorter run time can work, it just doesn't feel right.

Cap deserves a 2 hour 30 minute movie. :awesome:

[I am Batman]

What is it about that lipstick that she wears in the movie that turns me off? Every time I see her in a trailer or tv spot I wonder why the hell everyone says she's hot. Then I see this:
http://media.**************.com/images/uploads/esq2.jpg
and I get it.

[Parker Wayne]

I think red lipstick is hot

[Vartha]

heh If it makes you feel better I still want Jamie/Sif

[herolee10]

Runtime of OVER 2hrs :oldrazz:

This is like a reverse 2008. Thor got a runtime similar to TIH's, and Cap gets a runtime about the same as IM1. It is ironic.

So does that mean that CA will be more successful than Thor in the BO (IM1 >TIH in 2008) and will gain as much recognition as IM1 did?:oldrazz::wow::yay::woot:

[Spideyfan93]

heh If it makes you feel better I still want Jamie/Sif

Natalie Portman wins that battle for me lol. But it's annoying how Jamie seems like such a chill person in real life...it hurts my preference of Portman.:cmad:

[herolee10]

I wonder when we can expect to hear about the post credits scene being revealed/spoiled for this film?

In some ways, I hope the scene isn't the Nick Fury and Steve in Modern Day New York one, since I'm hoping for something kind of bigger than that to lead us into the Avengers

[Spideyfan93]

She has a perfectly amazing body. Head to toe, no imperfections.

Hayley ________(my last name) --------------> Main goal for the rest of my life.

[herolee10]

As much as the guy instinct in me enjoys talking about the beautiful women in the MCU, shouldn't we keep this thread focused on CA related news? Especially after the warnings that we've gotten as of late?:csad:

[Vartha]

I'm still waiting on those Scans mentioned earlier, that SF said to put spoilers tags over

[darkslayer101]

I wonder when we can expect to hear about the post credits scene being revealed/spoiled for this film?

In some ways, I hope the scene isn't the Nick Fury and Steve in Modern Day New York one, since I'm hoping for something kind of bigger than that to lead us into the Avengers

i think it was confirmed that the modern day scene is the ending of Cap...soo...i am guessing the post credits is gonna be huge...
personally a mini-trailer of Avengers wont be that bad-with the nick fury talking in the background...

[cherokeesam]

I was all for recasting for the role of Sharon Carter for Cap in modern day..... But screw it.
Atwell for Sharon in Avengers and/or Cap 2!!!!!!!

Absofrickinlutely.

Keep Atwell on the payroll, Marvel....bring her back as Sharon!

(trying to picture Hayley in a white jumpsuit.....:wow::hrt:)

[WildcatNC]

As much as the guy instinct in me enjoys talking about the beautiful women in the MCU, shouldn't we keep this thread focused on CA related news? Especially after the warnings that we've gotten as of late?:csad:


Shes in the movie dude, its absolutely related to Cap. :woot:

[WildcatNC]

Little known fact:


The main source of Rogers despair upon awakening was the fact that despite the SSS being tried out on him, he never got to try it out on Peggy.


Oh the HUMANITY !


:waa:

[TheWiseGuy487]

New interview and pics with Atwell.

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http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/C4/esq-hayley-atwell-1-0811-lg.jpg



http://www.esquire.com/women/women-we-love/hayley-atwell-pictures-0811#img

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbUpGoOjFWw
wbUpGoOjFWw

I think I found a new crush.

[Vartha]

heh but her great great grand daughter is in THIS time period....

[Spider-Fan]

So does that mean that CA will be more successful than Thor in the BO (IM1 >TIH in 2008) and will gain as much recognition as IM1 did?:oldrazz::wow::yay::woot:

Maybe! :cwink:

[Vartha]

Think you scared off the guy with the Cube scans SF lol

[BrlntDsgse]

i think it was confirmed that the modern day scene is the ending of Cap...soo...i am guessing the post credits is gonna be huge...
personally a mini-trailer of Avengers wont be that bad-with the nick fury talking in the background...

Yeah this should be the post-credit scene to end all post credit scenes. I posted my personal wish for it many months ago and, who knows, now that we know that Cap does indeed get frozen instead of zapped through time by the cube, maybe we'll get something like this(I hope :woot:).........

The final scene in the film would be S.H.I.E.L.D finding the frozen block of ice w/Cap inside, and then, just like an old 40's movie, the words "THE END" appear onscreen. As that fades out, don't even give the unaware general audience time to get out of their seats and leave. Immediately show onscreen..."Captain America will return in THE AVENGERS...".

And then, the mother of all bonus scenes as we open on a high-tech medical bay. Fury and Stark watching through some kind of observation area and discussing the situation as a team of doctors (maybe even Bruce Banner and Hank Pym) inspect the recently thawed body. Suddenly Cap comes to life, and we have a scene similar to Ultimates Vol. 1, with a confused Cap recovering his shield, kicking the tar out of a dozen or so SHIELD agents and making a daring escape out the window in nothing but a hospital gown.

Here's where I'd switch it up from the scene from Ultimates as Cap lands on the deck of a large ship. He runs towards the edge, ready to dive into the water to escape but comes to a screeching halt as he looks down over the edge(as the camera pans out) to find himself A FEW THOUSAND FEET ABOVE MANHATTAN on the deck of the SHIELD helicarrier. "Captain Rogers...." we hear Fury say as Cap turns to see Fury, Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye, etc., and dozens of SHIELD agents "...Welcome to the 21st century."
FADE OUT.


Everyone in every theater showing it, whether they were a die-hard fanboy or a general audience member would be DYING to see Avengers from that moment onward. I am a grown man, and I would probably weep tears of joy. And though it'll probably never happen, if ANYONE from Marvel is browsing these boards, ANYONE, by God you do whatever you can to pass this info up the vine to Joe Johnston/Joss Whedon/whomever, because NOTHING LESS will do. I say this with no arrogance whatsoever, after all, only the surprise of looking down from the carrier and the final line are my own idea, the rest is pretty much the scene from Ultimates. So take it, use it, cause as I said ...NOTHING...LESS...WILL...DO.

[Vartha]

I can see that

[SuperAl]

http://collider.com/captain-america-title-russia-south-korea/100441/

so i guess they dont expect this movie to do well overseas if they are already afraid the title is going to scare away viewers.

[Spideyfan93]

My new Avy! My crush is growing!:hrt::hrt::hrt::hrt::hrt:

[Spider-Fan]

Think you scared off the guy with the Cube scans SF lol

LOL! He won't be trying to get us solid info anytime soon :oldrazz:

[BizarroAids]

http://collider.com/captain-america-title-russia-south-korea/100441/

so i guess they dont expect this movie to do well overseas if they are already afraid the title is going to scare away viewers.

Eh, I don't think so at all. "The First Avenger" is a perfect title for overseas and considering it's a comic movie, and Marvel, I don't think it will hurt it at all. People are really interested in seeing all the character tie-ins to the Avengers movie.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

They change movie's titles overseas all of the time. And it's obvious that this movie isn't going to do record breaking numbers overseas anyhow.

Thor didn't break any records, neither did First Class and Neither did GL.

[Wolvieboy17]

Saw my first Captain America bus today. It was so damn cool. I'd love to see an Avengers bus collection, where they have one of the original Iron Man and Hulk buses side by side with the Thor and Cap ones :P

[Dwarf Slayer]

The final scene in the film would be S.H.I.E.L.D finding the frozen block of ice w/Cap inside, and then, just like an old 40's movie, the words "THE END" appear onscreen. As that fades out, don't even give the unaware general audience time to get out of their seats and leave. Immediately show onscreen..."Captain America will return in THE AVENGERS...".
Lame. There's no real conclusion to the story. If the movie ends like that, the complaints about Iron Man 2 being a commercial for The Avengers will look like nothing compared to the backlash this movie would receive.
Suddenly Cap comes to life, and we have a scene similar to Ultimates Vol. 1, with a confused Cap recovering his shield, kicking the tar out of a dozen or so SHIELD agents and making a daring escape out the window in nothing but a hospital gown.
Way too similar to Thor.
Here's where I'd switch it up from the scene from Ultimates as Cap lands on the deck of a large ship. He runs towards the edge, ready to dive into the water to escape but comes to a screeching halt as he looks down over the edge(as the camera pans out) to find himself A FEW THOUSAND FEET ABOVE MANHATTAN on the deck of the SHIELD helicarrier. "Captain Rogers...." we hear Fury say as Cap turns to see Fury, Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye, etc., and dozens of SHIELD agents "...Welcome to the 21st century." FADE OUT.

Once again, no real conclusion. It just screams that this movie was an advertisement for The Avengers.

Here is how I'd do the conclusion:

Cap would be unfrozen in the beginning of the movie, but still unconscious in SHIELD headquarters. At the end of the movie after it's been explained how Cap got frozen, SHIELD decide to wake him up. Awakened in a heavily fortified room with a giant two way mirror, Steve is confused by his surroundings. Fury explains over a speaker that it's the 21 century, the allies won the war, and that Cap's been frozen for 65 years. Cap of course doesn't believe him and thinks this whole thing is some kind of Nazi brainwashing experiment. Steve then picks up the hospital bed and tosses it through the two way mirror. An army of guards rush through the doors and surround Cap. About to fight, Cap stops when he hears a familiar voice. Sharon Carter is standing next to Fury in the room behind the broken mirror. Sharon looks strikingly similar to Peggy. She explains that she can take him to see Peggy. He agrees.

Cut to Sharon and Steve riding in a car, their conversation mirroring the one Steve and Peggy have in the car earlier in the movie (seen in the trailer). They get out at a small house where Sharon leads Steve in. In the living area is an old woman in a wheel chair, Peggy. Steve and Peggy have a heart to heart. Peggy explains that she retired in New York after having served with SHIELD. She says that she has had a good life and that Sharon is her great granddaughter. When Steve and Sharon leave, he says that he wants to left alone for a little while. Steve walks through the city and is amazed at how much it has changed. In Times Square, he is approached by Fury. Fury comments about how Cap is a legend and he saved the world by stopping Red Skull. He explains that an even greater threat is imminent. Fury says that if Steve wants to continue to serve his country and be Captain America that he has a proposal called The Avengers Initiative.

[Wolvieboy17]

All these theories for how the movie will end are great, except for the fact that they completely ignore the Time Square scene with Fury and Cap that we know has been filmed.

Also, the first scene is Cap's body being discovered, then it flashes back to the 1940's, so the end bookend, that we know is in modern times, will obviously be him thawing out, with Cap in Times Square either being at the end of the movie or be the end credits scene.

[BrlntDsgse]

Lame. There's no real conclusion to the story. If the movie ends like that, the complaints about Iron Man 2 being a commercial for The Avengers will look like nothing compared to the backlash this movie would receive.



There IS a conclusion.......that conclusion being Cap stopping the Skull's bomber and being frozen. The whole "it's just a commercial for Avengers" argument doesn't hold weight in this case because of one critical thing, the bulk of this movie takes place in the early 40's so that means no constant presence of Fury & SHIELD(except for the most likely very quick "bookend" scenes) throughout the movie as there was in IM2. And besides, I don't think they're really concerned about a bunch of fanboys whining about too much Avengers foreshadowing. They're more concerned about the general audience getting EXCITED by it, which they ARE. After every Marvel Studios film so far I've had friends and aquaintances who are either casual comic fans or not comic fans at all asking me, "Oh hey what's THAT scene about. Oh they're gonna have all the superheroes team-up? Like the Justice League? Cool!!!" & "So, when's that Avengers movie coming out?"


Once again, no real conclusion. It just screams that this movie was an advertisement for The Avengers.


Once again, it's not MEANT to be the conclusion, it's meant to be the post-credits scene, the intent of all of which so far has been to serve as......(wait for it)......advertisements/buzz for Avengers. And whether you like them or not, you can be DEAD CERTAIN that there will be another one in Cap.



Here is how I'd do the conclusion:


Wow, and you said MY suggestion was lame?!? Let's break this down....


Cap would be unfrozen in the beginning of the movie, but still unconscious in SHIELD headquarters.

So, you'd have the first introduction to the character in the film to be showing him unconscious on a table, thus taking away the dramatic intent of first meeting skinny Steve back in the 40's AND taking away some of the "punch" of the scene where he steps out of the "transformation pod"?


At the end of the movie after it's been explained how Cap got frozen, SHIELD decide to wake him up. Awakened in a heavily fortified room with a giant two way mirror, Steve is confused by his surroundings. Fury explains over a speaker that it's the 21 century, the allies won the war, and that Cap's been frozen for 65 years. Cap of course doesn't believe him and thinks this whole thing is some kind of Nazi brainwashing experiment. Steve then picks up the hospital bed and tosses it through the two way mirror. An army of guards rush through the doors and surround Cap. About to fight, Cap stops when he hears a familiar voice. Sharon Carter is standing next to Fury in the room behind the broken mirror. Sharon looks strikingly similar to Peggy. She explains that she can take him to see Peggy. He agrees.

While, I also hope that Haley Atwell comes back as Sharon, they should save that for Avengers.

And, I fail to see how MY IDEA is "too much like Thor" when you have something similar happening here with Cap waking up confused and throwing the bed. Hi pot, my name's kettle, and I think you just called me black.:whatever:



Cut to Sharon and Steve riding in a car, their conversation mirroring the one Steve and Peggy have in the car earlier in the movie (seen in the trailer). They get out at a small house where Sharon leads Steve in. In the living area is an old woman in a wheel chair, Peggy. Steve and Peggy have a heart to heart. Peggy explains that she retired in New York after having served with SHIELD. She says that she has had a good life and that Sharon is her great granddaughter. When Steve and Sharon leave, he says that he wants to left alone for a little while. Steve walks through the city and is amazed at how much it has changed. In Times Square, he is approached by Fury. Fury comments about how Cap is a legend and he saved the world by stopping Red Skull. He explains that an even greater threat is immanent. Fury says that if Steve wants to continue to serve his country and be Captain America that he has a proposal called The Avengers Initiative.

Ok so, your idea is that a highly valuable military asset, who has been thought lost for 70 years, is going to be resuscitated and then IMMEDIATELY taken to see his old girlfriend? No tests, debriefing, etc...? And then after that little visit SHIELD lets him GO OFF ON HIS OWN to take a stroll through modern day Manhattan? Are you kidding me? Should Nick Fury just wear a big red nose and a clown hat too? Cause that's what he'd be in your example, a clown.

And, AGAIN, the pot calls the kettle black, since you said my idea, which was only a quick 2-3 minute after-credit scene, would just come off as a cheap commercial for Avengers when here you're proposing multiple extended modern-day scenes with SHIELD and Fury within the runtime of the movie. THIS would be much more like the constant "advertising" in IM2 than my idea and it would take up a decent chunk of the time (at least 15-20 minutes)needed to tell Cap's origin and wartime adventures. It would also be putting a long drawn-out scene that's better saved for Avengers AFTER the logical conclusion of Cap defeating Skull's plot/getting frozen.

Thankfully I think we'll get something much closer to what I imagine than your idea. The modern-day "bookends" aren't going to take up nearly as much time as you'd have them, not when they only have 2 hours to work with. They'll discover the frozen body in the first scene and then most likely cut to Fury filling his people in on Cap's story, fading very quickly into a voiceover as we flashback to the 40's(maybe 5-6 mins total) and then another quick 3-5 minute scene at the end, with Fury & Stark wondering what to do with the body, or the medics finding vital signs, or maybe even a scene close to the one I described, which is almost exactly how Cap "woke up" in the Ultimates Vol. 1(which they seem to be drawing from plot-wise for Avengers).

[herolee10]

Out of the rest of the Avengers, the only member that I could potentially see still being in CA:TFA in some way would be Tony Stark, with him being responsible for helping Captain America wake up from his slumber, with Steve opening his eyelids and thinking that he's looking at Howard, only for the camera to focus in (Steve's POV) and reveal it to be Tony before Steve freaks out and runs outside to, or gets debriefed in Modern Day New York City.

[Carlo Comicus]

I have an interview about Captain America 3D in the next days. Suggestions for some questions?

[Wolvieboy17]

Ok so, your idea is that a highly valuable military asset, who has been thought lost for 70 years, is going to be resuscitated and then IMMEDIATELY taken to see his old girlfriend? No tests, debriefing, etc...? And then after that little visit SHIELD lets him GO OFF ON HIS OWN to take a stroll through modern day Manhattan? Are you kidding me? Should Nick Fury just wear a big red nose and a clown hat too? Cause that's what he'd be in your example, a clown.

And, AGAIN, the pot calls the kettle black, since you said my idea, which was only a quick 2-3 minute after-credit scene, would just come off as a cheap commercial for Avengers when here you're proposing multiple extended modern-day scenes with SHIELD and Fury within the runtime of the movie. THIS would be much more like the constant "advertising" in IM2 than my idea and it would take up a decent chunk of the time (at least 15-20 minutes)needed to tell Cap's origin and wartime adventures. It would also be putting a long drawn-out scene that's better saved for Avengers AFTER the logical conclusion of Cap defeating Skull's plot/getting frozen.

Thankfully I think we'll get something much closer to what I imagine than your idea. The modern-day "bookends" aren't going to take up nearly as much time as you'd have them, not when they only have 2 hours to work with. They'll discover the frozen body in the first scene and then most likely cut to Fury filling his people in on Cap's story, fading very quickly into a voiceover as we flashback to the 40's(maybe 5-6 mins total) and then another quick 3-5 minute scene at the end, with Fury & Stark wondering what to do with the body, or the medics finding vital signs, or maybe even a scene close to the one I described, which is almost exactly how Cap "woke up" in the Ultimates Vol. 1(which they seem to be drawing from plot-wise for Avengers).

Dude, again, your idea is flawed simply because we already know there is the scene with Fury and Cap in Times Square at the end of the movie, not post credits. We all saw the photos months ago. We've also know the film has modern day bookends for a while.

[Wafflehat]

How do we know where the cap bookends fit in with the movie continuity. Remember in the IM bonus scene, when fury says something like 'you think youre the only superhero in the world'. I think its entirely plausable for the cap stuff to come before IM. Granted, fury could have been referencing Cap in the 40's, but still. Food for thought

[Wolvieboy17]

How do we know where the cap bookends fit in with the movie continuity. Remember in the IM bonus scene, when fury says something like 'you think youre the only superhero in the world'. I think its entirely plausable for the cap stuff to come before IM. Granted, fury could have been referencing Cap in the 40's, but still. Food for thought

Well, for starters, there's the fact that he is never mentioned or referenced once in IM 2, Hulk or Thor. Why would Coulson care about the shield in Starks Lab if that actual Cap was still alive? Why would Ross give Blonsky an 'experimental' SS serum, if they could get the actual serum from Cap's blood?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Saw my first Captain America bus today. It was so damn cool. I'd love to see an Avengers bus collection, where they have one of the original Iron Man and Hulk buses side by side with the Thor and Cap ones :P Nice. :word:

[Wolvieboy17]

Nice. :word:

And they could put like, wings on the Cap bust, purple shorts on the Hulk one etc :P

[Spider-ManHero12]

Anyways, The First Avenger is 2hrs and 04 minutes according to Cineplex.com.

http://www.cineplex.com/Movies/MovieDetails/Captain-America-The-First-Avenger.aspx?photoPage=2&loc_cookie=AJAX+-+ON Great time length! :up:

2 new featurettes.
http://www.**************.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=41071

[Carlo Comicus]

Great! 2 hours is really goood!

[Spider-ManHero12]

Wasn't 2 hours and 5 minutes Iron Man 2's length?

[TheLastAvenger]

Here is how I'd do the conclusion:

Cap would be unfrozen in the beginning of the movie, but still unconscious in SHIELD headquarters. At the end of the movie after it's been explained how Cap got frozen, SHIELD decide to wake him up. Awakened in a heavily fortified room with a giant two way mirror, Steve is confused by his surroundings. Fury explains over a speaker that it's the 21 century, the allies won the war, and that Cap's been frozen for 65 years. Cap of course doesn't believe him and thinks this whole thing is some kind of Nazi brainwashing experiment. Steve then picks up the hospital bed and tosses it through the two way mirror. An army of guards rush through the doors and surround Cap. About to fight, Cap stops when he hears a familiar voice. Sharon Carter is standing next to Fury in the room behind the broken mirror. Sharon looks strikingly similar to Peggy. She explains that she can take him to see Peggy. He agrees.

Cut to Sharon and Steve riding in a car, their conversation mirroring the one Steve and Peggy have in the car earlier in the movie (seen in the trailer). They get out at a small house where Sharon leads Steve in. In the living area is an old woman in a wheel chair, Peggy. Steve and Peggy have a heart to heart. Peggy explains that she retired in New York after having served with SHIELD. She says that she has had a good life and that Sharon is her great granddaughter. When Steve and Sharon leave, he says that he wants to left alone for a little while. Steve walks through the city and is amazed at how much it has changed. In Times Square, he is approached by Fury. Fury comments about how Cap is a legend and he saved the world by stopping Red Skull. He explains that an even greater threat is imminent. Fury says that if Steve wants to continue to serve his country and be Captain America that he has a proposal called The Avengers Initiative.

I have a couple of problems with your scenario, if you don't mind me sharing.

For one, Marvel would be silly to introduce yet another eye-candy SHIELD agent so soon, let alone a character so important to Steve's integration into the modern world as Sharon Carter.

Introducing Sharon Carter as a small little end-piece would be fine if Captain America was going to be followed by Captain America 2, but remember that the next this story is going to be advanced in the Avengers. And there's no way you could fit Sharon Carter in when you already have Black Widow and Maria Hill filling the role Sharon does in the comics. I don't think we'll see Sharon in any capacity (but especially as a SHIELD agent) until Captain America 2.

Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt after Captain America we'll all be clamoring for more Hayley Atwell, but I just don't think the Avengers is the right place to explore that arc. Speaking of which, if you're going to have Sharon Carter, then it has to be Atwell. It is the resemblance to Peggy that attracts him in the first place, and with a modern style and American accent Atwell will seem like a completely different person.

Also, your scenario portrays SHIELD as if they thawed Captain America out for the sole purpose of reviving him. Obviously we don't know how much SHIELD knows about the SSS, but personally, I would think that the Captain actually coming back to life probably caught them with their pants down. So if the Cap did go on this rampage, I think it would be in more of a laboratory setting where they literally had no idea he would wake up after being thawed, rather than him being confined. I mean, why confine him, really? I know if I found out the greatest hero of all time had just come back to life, I'd want to make him feel as comfortable as possible, shake his hand, and delicately explain to him what's happened..not lock him up like a prisoner. I certainly wouldn't treat him the same way Thor was treated, where they had no idea who he was or what he wanted.

Any speculation on the modern-day bookends are little more than fan-fiction now anyway, so I don't want to break your post down piece-by-piece, but if you're going to attack someone else's idea, hold your own to the same standard. However, I would note to you BrIntDsgse that while your idea of seeing all of the Avengers at the end of Captain America would look interesting, Thor is stranded in Asgard and the last we saw of Bruce Banner he was still an outlaw, so that would bring up quite the plot hole.

But hey, considering I made this account just to respond, I might as well tell my scenario as well:

As I mentioned before, the idea that the Super Soldier serum would preserve the Cap so thoroughly that he could actually be revived would probably be quite unexpected, so I think when we see the thawing process, it will probably be in preparation for an autopsy. Rogers' blood is probably the only true link to Erskine's formula, and I could imagine SHIELD's doctors and scientists would be chomping at the bit for anything preserved well enough to get closer to that formula.

So Cap is on a medical table, slowly thawing in a SHIELD laboratory, as scientists are surprised at how well his body is preserved. Tony Stark is called in to look at the body (I'll be honest, I don't know why he'd be there, but he's there) with Fury and Coulson and he looks him over, commenting that he finds it hard to believe our nation's greatest hero is still in one piece.

As he looks over the body, we see Rogers' fingers begin to move, unbeknownst to Stark. Then, suddenly, the hand grabs Tony's arm, as a barely-conscious Cap opens his eyes, as he makes out a barely visible figure from his newly thawed eyes, as he whispers, "Stark?", mistaking him for his father.

Tony, once cool and collected, is now visibly shaken not only to see this corpse spring back to life but that he seems to know his name. As he gains his bearings, Steve sees that the figure is not Howard Stark, and the room he is in is largely unfamiliar to him. Given the strange technology he sees around him, he assumes he is in a Hydra facility and panics. He springs up, as Fury and the other scientists are shocked to see him revived, and Rogers backs away as Fury attempts to diffuse the situation by trying to explain to him where he is.

Confused and shocked by the explanation that he is in the year 2011, he refuses to believe what he is hearing as he holds off everyone around him with a scalpel he grabbed. I imagine this similar to the scene in the Matrix where it is explained to Neo exactly where he is and he freaks out..well, other than the blowing chunks part.

Seeing a door on the other side of the room, he runs toward it and out. Guards attempt to chase him, but Fury holds them back (because after all, why send armed guards after history's greatest hero? :awesome:). Cap runs through the hall, panicked and confused as he looks for an exit. He finds it, and on the other side of the door he is met by modern Manhattan. Overwhelmed by the familiar but unfamiliar city he once called home, he runs through crowds of people, looking for something..anything, that will disprove the revelation that it has been 70 years since he last drew breath. All he finds, however, is more affirmation of what the one-eyed colored man told him.

Finally, Nick Fury approaches Steve as he resigns himself to the fact that he is in the year 2011. "Everything I love is gone. My family, my friends..everything I ever cared about..." "Not everything. It may not look familiar to you, but this is still your New York..your America. It's all still here, thanks to you." Steve looks around, taking comfort in those words. "So what now? I'm a relic of the past. How could the world possibly need a fossil like me?" Fury smirks, noting the irony of his statements. "The world needs you more now than it ever did. It needs a leader, a symbol...a hero like Captain America. There are threats out there larger than any country or army; they threaten everything men like you and I have dedicated our lives to protect. And it's not a threat you have to face alone..." At this point, Agent Coulson approaches as Captain America is shown the Avengers Initiative folder we have all become familiar with. Then fade to black, credits roll.

Really, I think it's best if kept simple like that. Notice there's little overt reference to the Avengers, and it ties in well with what the entire movie is about. We see the fruits of Captain America's struggle - a thriving, peaceful New York, that exists due to Cap's exploits in the movie. It fits with the supposed theme of the movie, and exists there as more than an Avengers set-up.

As for after-credits...I would think something relating to Red Skull, but who knows, they could just kill him off. Whatever it is, it'll probably relate to the "threat" mentioned earlier.

edit:

Out of the rest of the Avengers, the only member that I could potentially see still being in CA:TFA in some way would be Tony Stark, with him being responsible for helping Captain America wake up from his slumber, with Steve opening his eyelids and thinking that he's looking at Howard, only for the camera to focus in (Steve's POV) and reveal it to be Tony before Steve freaks out and runs outside to, or gets debriefed in Modern Day New York City. Haha, what's funny is that when I started writing this that hadn't been posted, and never saw it. Great minds, amirite? Though I'd like to note we actually don't know if that scene was filmed for Captain America or the Avengers, since its filming actually came right after the Avengers started filming. It's unlikely to be in the Avengers of course, but if people want to ignore the scene, they're more than welcome to.

[Spider-ManHero12]

And they could put like, wings on the Cap bust, purple shorts on the Hulk one etc :P I'd love that. :awesome:

[Wolvieboy17]

Here's my scenario...

Cap and Red Skull battle on top of a clock tower when it gets struck by lightning... Cap wakes up in a suburban garage, in the modern, current year of 1985. Just as he's adjusted, and learnt how to skateboard, Nick Fury suddenly appear in the Helicarrier and says "Cap! It's all gone wrong! We need to go back!" "Back where?" "We have to go back... to the future!"

Cap: I'm already in the future..

Fury: Oh.... this is awkward.

Cap: You can't be a real general, you're black!

Fury: Yeah, well... Bucky and Peggy are dead.

Cap: :sadface:

CAPTAIN AMERICA WILL NOT RETURN IN THE AVENGERS.... HE'S TOO SAD.

[HighFivingMF]

Here's my scenario...

Cap and Red Skull battle on top of a clock tower when it gets struck by lightning... Cap wakes up in a suburban garage, in the modern, current year of 1985. Just as he's adjusted, and learnt how to skateboard, Nick Fury suddenly appear in the Helicarrier and says "Cap! It's all gone wrong! We need to go back!" "Back where?" "We have to go back... to the future!"

Cap: I'm already in the future..

Fury: Oh.... this is awkward.

Cap: You can't be a real general, you're black!

Fury: Yeah, well... Bucky and Peggy are dead.

Cap: :sadface:

CAPTAIN AMERICA WILL NOT RETURN IN THE AVENGERS.... HE'S TOO SAD.

He'll just be seen in the background while Tony and Thor are figuring out a plan in his white t-shirt carrying tub after tub of ice cream into his room. Then they have to speak louder because booming from Steve's stereo-

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[Wolvieboy17]

Let's be serious a moment guys... Obviously, since he's a military guy, we'll see him on an aircraft carrier, most likely the Helicarrier.... so OBVIOUSLY we're going to see him straddling a large cannon, singing "If Only I Could Turn Back Time"

[HighFivingMF]

"Would that this cannon were a time cannon!"

[marcvader]

I have a couple of problems with your scenario, if you don't mind me sharing.

For one, Marvel would be silly to introduce yet another eye-candy SHIELD agent so soon, let alone a character so important to Steve's integration into the modern world as Sharon Carter.

Introducing Sharon Carter as a small little end-piece would be fine if Captain America was going to be followed by Captain America 2, but remember that the next this story is going to be advanced in the Avengers. And there's no way you could fit Sharon Carter in when you already have Black Widow and Maria Hill filling the role Sharon does in the comics. I don't think we'll see Sharon in any capacity (but especially as a SHIELD agent) untvyil Captain America 2.

Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt after Captain America we'll all be clamoring for more Hayley Atwell, but I just don't think the Avengers is the right place to explore that arc. Speaking of which, if you're going to have Sharon Carter, then it has to be Atwell. It is the resemblance to Peggy that attracts him in the first place, and with a modern style and American accent Atwell will seem like a completely different person.

Also, your scenario portrays SHIELD as if they thawed Captain America out for the sole purpose of reviving him. Obviously we don't know how much SHIELD knows about the SSS, but personally, I would think that the Captain actually coming back to life probably caught them with their pants down. So if the Cap did go on this rampage, I think it would be in more of a laboratory setting where they literally had no idea he would wake up after being thawed, rather than him being confined. I mean, why confine him, really? I know if I found out the greatest hero of all time had just come back to life, I'd want to make him feel as comfortable as possible, shake his hand, and delicately explain to him what's happened..not lock him up like a prisoner. I certainly wouldn't treat him the same way Thor was treated, where they had no idea who he was or what he wanted.

Any speculation on the modern-day bookends are little more than fan-fiction now anyway, so I don't want to break your post down piece-by-piece, but if you're going to attack someone else's idea, hold your own to the same standard. However, I would note to you BrIntDsgse that while your idea of seeing all of the Avengers at the end of Captain America would look interesting, Thor is stranded in Asgard and the last we saw of Bruce Banner he was still an outlaw, so that would bring up quite the plot hole.

But hey, considering I made this account just to respond, I might as well tell my scenario as well:

As I mentioned before, the idea that the Super Soldier serum would preserve the Cap so thoroughly that he could actually be revived would probably be quite unexpected, so I think when we see the thawing process, it will probably be in preparation for an autopsy. Rogers' blood is probably the only true link to Erskine's formula, and I could imagine SHIELD's doctors and scientists would be chomping at the bit for anything preserved well enough to get closer to that formula.

So Cap is on a medical table, slowly thawing in a SHIELD laboratory, as scientists are surprised at how well his body is preserved. Tony Stark is called in to look at the body (I'll be honest, I don't know why he'd be there, but he's there) with Fury and Coulson and he looks him over, commenting that he finds it hard to believe our nation's greatest hero is still in one piece.

As he looks over the body, we see Rogers' fingers begin to move, unbeknownst to Stark. Then, suddenly, the hand grabs Tony's arm, as a barely-conscious Cap opens his eyes, as he makes out a barely visible figure from his newly thawed eyes, as he whispers, "Stark?", mistaking him for his father.

Tony, once cool and collected, is now visibly shaken not only to see this corpse spring back to life but that he seems to know his name. As he gains his bearings, Steve sees that the figure is not Howard Stark, and the room he is in is largely unfamiliar to him. Given the strange technology he sees around him, he assumes he is in a Hydra facility and panics. He springs up, as Fury and the other scientists are shocked to see him revived, and Rogers backs away as Fury attempts to diffuse the situation by trying to explain to him where he is.

Confused and shocked by the explanation that he is in the year 2011, he refuses to believe what he is hearing as he holds off everyone around him with a scalpel he grabbed. I imagine this similar to the scene in the Matrix where it is explained to Neo exactly where he is and he freaks out..well, other than the blowing chunks part.

Seeing a door on the other side of the room, he runs toward it and out. Guards attempt to chase him, but Fury holds them back (because after all, why send armed guards after history's greatest hero? :awesome:). Cap runs through the hall, panicked and confused as he looks for an exit. He finds it, and on the other side of the door he is met by modern Manhattan. Overwhelmed by the familiar but unfamiliar city he once called home, he runs through crowds of people, looking for something..anything, that will disprove the revelation that it has been 70 years since he last drew breath. All he finds, however, is more affirmation of what the one-eyed colored man told him.

Finally, Nick Fury approaches Steve as he resigns himself to the fact that he is in the year 2011. "Everything I love is gone. My family, my friends..everything I ever cared about..." "Not everything. It may not look familiar to you, but this is still your New York..your America. It's all still here, thanks to you." Steve looks around, taking comfort in those words. "So what now? I'm a relic of the past. How could the world possibly need a fossil like me?" Fury smirks, noting the irony of his statements. "The world needs you more now than it ever did. It needs a leader, a symbol...a hero like Captain America. There are threats out there larger than any country or army; they threaten everything men like you and I have dedicated our lives to protect. And it's not a threat you have to face alone..." At this point, Agent Coulson approaches as Captain America is shown the Avengers Initiative folder we have all become familiar with. Then fade to black, credits roll.

Really, I think it's best if kept simple like that. Notice there's little overt reference to the Avengers, and it ties in well with what the entire movie is about. We see the fruits of Captain America's struggle - a thriving, peaceful New York, that exists due to Cap's exploits in the movie. It fits with the supposed theme of the movie, and exists there as more than an Avengers set-up.

As for after-credits...I would think something relating to Red Skull, but who knows, they could just kill him off. Whatever it is, it'll probably relate to the "threat" mentioned earlier.

edit:

Haha, what's funny is that when I started writing this that hadn't been posted, and never saw it. Great minds, amirite? Though I'd like to note we actually don't know if that scene was filmed for Captain America or the Avengers, since its filming actually came right after the Avengers started filming. It's unlikely to be in the Avengers of course, but if people want to ignore the scene, they're more than welcome to.

Good first post. Welcome to the Hype

[Spider-ManHero12]

Only 16 days left, guys!

[TheLastAvenger]

Good first post. Welcome to the Hype

Thanks! Though in retrospect, I'm thinking I should have spoiler tagged my wall of text.

Let's be serious a moment guys... Obviously, since he's a military guy, we'll see him on an aircraft carrier, most likely the Helicarrier.... so OBVIOUSLY we're going to see him straddling a large cannon, singing "If Only I Could Turn Back Time"

That is...disturbing. gonna take me a while to get that image out of my head. Though Captain America and Cher do have one thing in common: they were both created in a laboratory.

ZING!

[Iron_Stark]

Wasn't 2 hours and 5 minutes Iron Man 2's length?

Yep. :up:

[Spider-ManHero12]

Nice.

[FABSN13]

Just can´t believe that I have to wait for the film until August 19th :csad:

[Vartha]

Just can´t believe that I have to wait for the film until August 19th :csad:
Didn't you get Thor before the States Fab?

[Doctor Jones]

I'm getting more excited as the days go by. I hope this doesn't disappoint. At least I"m staying away from any tv spots or featurettes.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Cpa has been one of my most eagerly awaited films these past few years. it's good to know it's finally happening.

[Crimson King]

After gorging myself on Thor TV spots, I'm calling a moratorium on Cap promos. I don't want any more of it spoiled than I've already seen.

[Nightmare]

I'm getting more excited as the days go by. I hope this doesn't disappoint. At least I"m staying away from any tv spots or featurettes.

Same here. This and xmen were my most anticipated. After that craptastic movie of tranny3:dark moon, im really hoping this will leave me with a great feeling.

[Vartha]

After gorging myself on Thor TV spots, I'm calling a moratorium on Cap promos. I don't want any more of it spoiled than I've already seen.
....what about Avengers? :D

[Crimson King]

I'll do the same thing for Avengers that I'm doing for Cap, which is to watch the trailers and that's it.

Or so I claim :)

[Vartha]

hehehe Yeah it's very hard not to watch when you're a fan.

[FABSN13]

Didn't you get Thor before the States Fab?


Yes, but "only" a week before the States.
Now I´ve got to wait 4 weeks and that´s pretty long for me :dry:

[Spider-ManHero12]

It's going to be REALLY hard for me to avoid spoilers for the Avengers. I really spoiled myself when alot of spoilers of S-M3 were released because of how excited I was, lol.

[peterparker0077]

lol, I'm gone for a few hours and the pages go by so quickly, lol.

Ok, so I guess this hasn't been talked about:

There is an image near the beginning of the magazine that shows Joe Johnson over looking a Viking tomb where a dead viking is grasping the cube above his shield in his tomb. My guess is that this is how Red Skull finds the cube, he some how follows viking myth and clues, and it will possibly be described that Asgardians hid the Cube on earth for some reason. However, this tomb could be also be on Asguard (similar viking motif), though I doubt they would have an Asgard scene in this Captain America movie, and Red Skull would not have a way to get to Asgard anyway.

[Vartha]

Yes, but "only" a week before the States.
Now I´ve got to wait 4 weeks and that´s pretty long for me :dry:
Yeah I understand. I knew it couldn't have too much ahead of us since Australia's premier was two weeks ahead.
Wonder why they're waiting long this time around for you guys?

[Vartha]

lol, I'm gone for a few hours and the pages go by so quickly, lol.

Ok, so I guess this hasn't been talked about:

There is an image near the beginning of the magazine that shows Joe Johnson over looking a Viking tomb where a dead viking is grasping the cube above his shield in his tomb. My guess is that this is how Red Skull finds the cube, he some how follows viking myth and clues, and it will possibly be described that Asgardians hid the Cube on earth for some reason. However, this tomb could be also be on Asguard (similar viking motif), though I doubt they would have an Asgard scene in this Captain America movie, and Red Skull would not have a way to get to Asgard anyway.
THIS is what I was referring to about the Vault. Tho what you described is slightly different. Can we see scans?

[peterparker0077]

THIS is what I was referring to about the Vault. Tho what you described is slightly different. Can we see scans?

I don't have a scanner sadly... anyone have a scanner that has the magazine?

Correction btw, he's holding the cube above his sword, I don't think a shield is present, but now I'm going off memory, the magazine is back at home. :P

[Vartha]

DANG we need scans! lol
At least now there's someone else that has seen that scene! I'm still trying to locate where I saw those images. I know it was with some RS/Hugo shots and there was even a drawing of the scene.

[peterparker0077]

DANG we need scans! lol
At least now there's someone else that has seen that scene! I'm still trying to locate where I saw those images. I know it was with some RS/Hugo shots and there was even a drawing of the scene.

The magazine is at every walmart, target, book store, in this area, I'm sure there is one by you :)

[FABSN13]

Yeah I understand. I knew it couldn't have too much ahead of us since Australia's premier was two weeks ahead.
Wonder why they're waiting long this time around for you guys?


Yeah me too, i guess Cap isn´t so well known here in europe.

[Vartha]

The magazine is at every walmart, target, book store, in this area, I'm sure there is one by you :)
yeah I'm a block north of the very FIRST Walmart superstore lol
hmmm wondering if I should go try and see if it's there. I looked for it last week.

[Iceman]

2 hour runtime. Perfect!

[marcvader]

DANG we need scans! lol
At least now there's someone else that has seen that scene! I'm still trying to locate where I saw those images. I know it was with some RS/Hugo shots and there was even a drawing of the scene.

Someone posted that pick on here somewhere.

[Vartha]

Yeah me too, i guess Cap isn´t so well known here in europe.
He Probably isn't. I don't even remember how well known he was over there DURING WWII. lol

[Vartha]

Someone posted that pick on here somewhere.
I know I saw it, I just can't remember when. I've been wanting to post that in the how Thor effects cap thread.

[Vartha]

HMMM I think I know why I can't find it HERE.
The image of the Viking with the cube I keep finding is on CBM

BUT the image is from the Upper Deck Card set

[RedSkull]

thats good news about the two hour run time...

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm going to be looking for this magazine soon, lol.

[Simo]

I can have it scanned this afternoon at around 5pm. I'm at work otherwise I'd scan it sooner.

[Vartha]

I can have it scanned this afternoon at around 5pm. I'm at work otherwise I'd scan it sooner.
cool I can wait. lol

I work 12 hours tonight and tomorrow night lol

[Spider-Fan]

I can have it scanned this afternoon at around 5pm. I'm at work otherwise I'd scan it sooner.

Spoiler tag that stuff! :cmad:

[Spider-ManHero12]

Oh, okay then. :up:

[Vartha]

Spoiler tag that stuff! :cmad:
Yeah guys keep in mind even though there are many of us who want to see the stuff. MANY people don't want to be spoiled.

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah guys keep in mind even though there are many of us who want to see the stuff. MANY people don't want to be spoiled.

Exactly! I saw descriptions of the pics were posted, and I didn't read those posts. Since, I don't want to know THAT much :o

So, be kind...use a spoiler tag!

[RedSkull]

I had a dream last night that cap was out. That's how excited I am.

[Superhero 101]

So i was watching the trailer the other day and i was just wondering since the movie is about 2 hours and i was just wondering about how long it will take in the movie before we see Cap in his Uniform made by Stark, they will probably spend the first half hour doing the "Weak" Steve and then about 5 minutes of the Transformation and chase, and then another 10-15 minutes of Steve in Classic Uniform. So i guess we will see Cap in the Suit designed by Stark after an hour of the film maybe? What do you guys think?

[Dr Lee]

i think that could be probable...

[RedSkull]

the costume was referred to as "final battle cap" in one ad for a toy of it. If this is the case he'll only wear it in the final half hour or so

[co2]

So i was watching the trailer the other day and i was just wondering since the movie is about 2 hours and i was just wondering about how long it will take in the movie before we see Cap in his Uniform made by Stark, they will probably spend the first half hour doing the "Weak" Steve and then about 5 minutes of the Transformation and chase, and then another 10-15 minutes of Steve in Classic Uniform. So i guess we will see Cap in the Suit designed by Stark after an hour of the film maybe? What do you guys think?

I think you will get more than 10-15 of the classic WWII Uniform. There looks to be a big action sequence around it.

[kedrell]

An hour into it is my guess.

[Carlo Comicus]

I had a dream last night that cap was out. That's how excited I am.

It' a great dream :D

[BrlntDsgse]

Dude, again, your idea is flawed simply because we already know there is the scene with Fury and Cap in Times Square at the end of the movie, not post credits. We all saw the photos months ago. We've also know the film has modern day bookends for a while.

Well, I know the film has modern day bookends, I specifically stated so, but we don't know exactly what they ARE, or how LONG they are. And I still maintain that each bookend will be roughly around 5 minutes give or take a minute or two, since this is an origin movie that needs time to focus on the 1940's setting. And on the specific issue of the Times Square scene, another poster already commented with what I was going to respond with......
Though I'd like to note we actually don't know if that scene was filmed for Captain America or the Avengers, since its filming actually came right after the Avengers started filming.
.....Not saying that you're right or wrong about that scene, just that there IS room for speculation, since we don't know for sure.


However, I would note to you BrIntDsgse that while your idea of seeing all of the Avengers at the end of Captain America would look interesting, Thor is stranded in Asgard and the last we saw of Bruce Banner he was still an outlaw, so that would bring up quite the plot hole.

Well, to clarify, I was describing my idea of a post-credits scene that would be similar to the scene in Iron Man 2, which was the first post-credits scene in one movie that ended up being an ACTUAL scene in the next movie. So, the "Cap wakes up on the Helicarrier" scenario I had could very well come a bit into the first act of Avengers, AFTER Thor and Banner are reintroduced. OR, since neither of those two are integral to the scene, it could work just as well without them.

But anyway, as you said, this IS all just fan-fiction. I certainly don't think that the writers just happened to come up w/the exact same idea I did, with Cap looking down over the edge of the helicarrier with Fury telling him "Welcome to the 21st century" and Cap being surrounded by the Avengers. However I would point out that the rest of my scene up until that point is almost exactly what happened in the Ultimates and I AM sure that Cap waking up(whether it's in Avengers or at the end of TFA) will be pretty similar to that, with him waking up unexpectedly in a lab setting and initially fighting with SHIELD agents until something(whether it's looking over the edge of the helicarrier, meeting Sharon Carter, or escaping & taking a stroll through modern-day Times Square or whatever) calms him down.

Here's my scenario...

Cap and Red Skull battle on top of a clock tower when it gets struck by lightning... Cap wakes up in a suburban garage, in the modern, current year of 1985. Just as he's adjusted, and learnt how to skateboard, Nick Fury suddenly appear in the Helicarrier and says "Cap! It's all gone wrong! We need to go back!" "Back where?" "We have to go back... to the future!"

Cap: I'm already in the future..

Fury: Oh.... this is awkward.

Cap: You can't be a real general, you're black!

Fury: Yeah, well... Bucky and Peggy are dead.

Cap: :sadface:

CAPTAIN AMERICA WILL NOT RETURN IN THE AVENGERS.... HE'S TOO SAD.

Ok, I withdraw my idea and officially throw my support behind this idea.
"Stark, are you tellin' me.....that you made a quinjet.....out of a DeLorean!?" LOL

the costume was referred to as "final battle cap" in one ad for a toy of it. If this is the case he'll only wear it in the final half hour or so

I don't think we'll see quite that little of it, after all we've heard that some of the scenes of Cap in action in the final suit are part of a montage of his couple years in WWII. I doubt that they would stick his entire WWII career into ONLY the montage and final battle BOTH squeezed into the last half hour. I figure we'll probably see the final suit around the 1 hr mark, giving them plenty of time to show Cap's first official mission in the suit, then the montage, and the final battle stuff, plus whatever "filler/exposition" scenes they might need inbetween them.

[RedSkull]

Here's how I forsee the structuring of the film:

first ten minutes: Schmidt finds the cosmic cube
first 45 minutes: Steve Rogers tries to get into the military, fails, becomes a super soldier
first hour and 10: Ursine is killed, Cap is in the USO show, gets recruited to go to war
hour and a half: bucky is kidnapped/fight on the bridge
final half hour: fight about the plane.
ending: frozen in time?

[TikkiEXX]

man i have no idea how you people avoid the tv spots. unless you just dont watch tv at all. lol. im just sitting here chilling watching Sportscenter and another new tv spot comes on. never seen this one before. only a few parts that were new. the japanese guy and Cap talking and a shot of cap jumping are the only new parts i could see.

[RedSkull]

I seek them out. EMBRACE THEM!

[Simo]

As promised THAT scan...
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/404/cubej.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/cubej.jpg/)

[darkslayer101]

I had a dream last night that cap was out. That's how excited I am.

lol....i had this moment a month ago...

[Draven]

DALLAS (AP) The Dallas Cowboys are getting some super-powered support.

Marvel Comics' heroes are throwing in with the Cowboys as the publisher's parent, Marvel Entertainment LLC, expands its efforts to bring the characters into the world of professional sports.

Debuting Wednesday, the five-time Super Bowl champion Cowboys will offer apparel from T-shirts to caps that feature Spider-Man and Captain America, among others.

[Chewy]

DALLAS (AP) The Dallas Cowboys are getting some super-powered support.

Marvel Comics' heroes are throwing in with the Cowboys as the publisher's parent, Marvel Entertainment LLC, expands its efforts to bring the characters into the world of professional sports.

Debuting Wednesday, the five-time Super Bowl champion Cowboys will offer apparel from T-shirts to caps that feature Spider-Man and Captain America, among others.

:barf:

[Son of Coul]

Damn, I'm a Giants fan haha. Still pretty cool nonetheless.

[Chewy]

Sorry just the reaction of an Iggles fan to Cap and Spidey appearing on Cowboys apparel. Carry on.

[Simo]

https://freecountry.harley-davidson.com/captainamerica/_media/images/overlay/wallpapers/02_CaptainAmerica_1680x1050.jpg

https://freecountry.harley-davidson.com/captainamerica/_media/images/overlay/wallpapers/01_CaptainAmerica_1680x1050.jpg

https://freecountry.harley-davidson.com/captainamerica/_media/images/overlay/wallpapers/03_CaptainAmerica_1680x1050.jpg

https://freecountry.harley-davidson.com/captainamerica/_media/images/overlay/wallpapers/04_CaptainAmerica_1680x1050.jpg

[Iron_Stark]

:barf:

:nono:

edit

Sorry just the reaction of an Iggles fan to Cap and Spidey appearing on Cowboys apparel. Carry on.

Oh wait that explains it.

:barf:Eagles.


You're still cool though.:cwink:

[Spider-ManHero12]

As promised THAT scan...
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/404/cubej.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/cubej.jpg/) Thanks!

[BizarroAids]

Mounted machine guns on the Harley. Love it!

[Matt Mortem]

Those are some sick wallpapers

[Son of Coul]

Saw this comment left on a Collider article about the two latest featurettes. Figured it was worth posting:

I saw it today in a advance screening and i must say it was pretty damn good. Not as good as Thor but better than Iron Man 2 and both Hulk movies. Also, the 3d was surprisingly good!

[Spideyfan93]

Pretty damn good...
...not as good as Thor...

But Thor was a damn good movie. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

[Spideyfan93]

Pretty damn good...
...not as good as Thor...

But Thor was a damn good movie. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

[Son of Coul]

A "pretty damn good" comment on casual movie site by someone who really liked Thor=AWESOME for us I'd say, or at least for me.

This movie will be in IMAX, right?

[Matt Mortem]

I have no doubts this will be a great movie

[Nirvana]

It's not in IMAX. :(

[Son of Coul]

Ah ok, that actually sorta makes the decision easier for me haha

[The Caped Knight]

I can't wait to hear more awesome reviews.

[Spider-Fan]

The 2hr 4min runtime listing is now on fandango, also.

[Spider-Vader]

This is a little off topic, but would anyone want to see Falcon in a sequel? I think if they changed him up a little he could work out well. Perhaps he's a SHIELD agent with flight technology & a trained falcon that's equipped with some spy tech?

[HighFivingMF]

This is a little off topic, but would anyone want to see Falcon in a sequel?

Yes.

[cherokeesam]

This is a little off topic, but would anyone want to see Falcon in a sequel? I think if they changed him up a little he could work out well. Perhaps he's a SHIELD agent with flight technology & a trained falcon that's equipped with some spy tech?

Yeah, CA2 should introduce Sam Wilson and Sharon Carter. And reintroduce Red Skull into the modern world. Basically follow the Exile Island storyline, with Sam Wilson meeting and teaming up with Cap to battle Skull (whom Cap is surprised to find still alive), and eventually donning the Falcon persona & costume in the last reel.

[Spider-Fan]

I would like to see Cap get his core of people in the modern day in a sequel. Falcon would work well, but would he be perceived as being a Cap version of Rhodey? That would be my reservation, though I am all for using him! I love him.

[Venom'sDad]

I would love to see Falcon, especially after we saw how he could be done with examples from Legend and X-Men 3. Like to see Vulture as well btw.

[BizarroAids]

Saw this comment left on a Collider article about the two latest featurettes. Figured it was worth posting:

LOL. That doesn't seem like a legit post. He said not as good as Thor but better than IM 2....Most of the people that had seen it with the "early buzz" said it was really great and better than Thor. Almost all of them said that.

[RedSkull]

It could be 4 hours long and I wouldn't mind. I'll be sad when it's over. Much much more excited than I was for thor, though I was also excited for thor.

[Spider-Fan]

LOL. That doesn't seem like a legit post. He said not as good as Thor but better than IM 2....Most of the people that had seen it with the "early buzz" said it was really great and better than Thor. Almost all of them said that.

That could be that dude's opinion. Some people thought Iron Man was average. Doesn't mean it's a majority opinion or an example of what everyone will think. I have a feeling Cap's buzz (in reviews and such) will be stronger than Thor's was (though not as high as IM1, but potentially close). Now, not sure if that means Cap will make more $$$ than Thor, but I think people who saw both will prob say Cap was better, based on the early screenings and such.

[cryptic name]

I would like to see Cap get his core of people in the modern day in a sequel. Falcon would work well, but would he be perceived as being a Cap version of Rhodey? That would be my reservation, though I am all for using him! I love him.

That's actually a valid concern. Although I like the idea now of War Machine, Falcon, and Heimdall teaming up for Black Avengers...:oldrazz:...:dry:...:cmad:

[crounsa810]

I have no doubts this will be a great movie
In an unrelated post, you have Eugene Hutz as your avatar. You sir, are awesome:word:

[The Infernal]

The 2hr 4min runtime listing is now on fandango, also.

Hmm, that does sound interesting.

http://gamingsrapture.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/tumblr_l6r0pgu0uX1qzaw5fo1_500.jpg

Aww, I can't wait. LET ME AT IT.

http://metavideogame.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/grim.jpg

Sorry, just needed an excuse.


On a serious note. Does anyone wonder if we'll see Dum Dum in the modern day in a Cap sequel or the Avengers? I mean he is a current character in comics as well as being a WWII character. I don't know all the ins and outs of his character, but how does he stay fit in the comics if he's that old?

[Spider-ManHero12]

That could be that dude's opinion. Some people thought Iron Man was average. Doesn't mean it's a majority opinion or an example of what everyone will think. I have a feeling Cap's buzz (in reviews and such) will be stronger than Thor's was (though not as high as IM1, but potentially close). Now, not sure if that means Cap will make more $$$ than Thor, but I think people who saw both will prob say Cap was better, based on the early screenings and such. Agreed. It's hard to tell if this will be better than Thor or Iron Man at this point, if you ask me, but I think it's possible.

[Vartha]

As promised THAT scan...
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/404/cubej.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/cubej.jpg/)
SWEET Thanks Simo!

[Wolvieboy17]

So here's a Thor based question for you Vartha.... Who's tomb do you think that is in TFA, that the cosmic cube is contained in?

[peterparker0077]

So here's a Thor based question for you Vartha.... Who's tomb do you think that is in TFA, that the cosmic cube is contained in?

I think it's just a viking tomb from the 700s to 1000s... although the sword would be wrong for that. I think so due to the Tomb decorations. My guess is that Odin wanted to hide the cube, so he hid it on earth. Not sure if they'll actually talk about Odin or Asgard in this film though, they may save that for Avengers.

[Wolvieboy17]

Well I think Red Skull will obviously address the nature of the cosmic cube and where it could come from. It's not just like "Oh hey, a cube... I bet THAT'S powerful"

[Vartha]

Good question. I would think MAYBE Balder, but why would he be buried HERE?
Maybe they had a "follower" stand guard like maybe the Story Walt wrote about the last Viking in Thor?

[Vartha]

I'm not seeing any runes to read, tho the costume on the Upper deck card looks ornate like the Asgardians

[peterparker0077]

Well I think Red Skull will obviously address the nature of the cosmic cube and where it could come from. It's not just like "Oh hey, a cube... I bet THAT'S powerful"

well yes it will get explained. But it may only talk about viking history and viking myth and lore, vs actually talking about Asgard.

[RaZaTrOn]

In the comic con footage wasn't it said that on the wall he knocks down to get to the tomb is The World Tree Yggdrasil.

Maybe when the Red Skull is looking about the room and sees Yggdrasil he mentions to the soldiers something similar to what Thor said to Jane about the different planets forming Yggdrasil and continue to say that the All-Father Odin once collected the most powerful weapons from across the World Tree to safe guard them.

That would be a pretty subtle connection to Thor and be a really strong connection without seeming forced.

[paulogonza]

then had a screening? but probably have a embargo too

[sgaana]

Good question. I would think MAYBE Balder, but why would he be buried HERE?
Maybe they had a "follower" stand guard like maybe the Story Walt wrote about the last Viking in Thor?

I've been thinking the latter.

The Balder idea is... disturbing.

On the one hand -- well, it would be a really simple way to explain his complete absence (including any mention) in the first Thor movie!

On the other -- Balder dying is supposed mark the coming of Ragnarok.

Some have speculated that Balder was absent from the first Thor movie because Odin knew this and hid him on Earth to protect him. In which case, perhaps hiding the Cube with him would make sense.

But if that's Balder, I'll be really interested to see how it's related to the Ragnarok concept. Because whoever that is looks LONG dead. What's the time-limit on "marking the coming of..."? (Plus: even in Odinsleep, important mystical things seemed to be known to Odin, and got him to wake up -- things like Thor's restoration and the danger to the Bifrost. It's hard to imagine that, if Balder's life is so mystically important, Odin wouldn't have known when he died, and been a bit more concerned about it.)

[peterparker0077]

I've been thinking the latter.

The Balder idea is... disturbing.

On the one hand -- well, it would be a really simple way to explain his complete absence (including any mention) in the first Thor movie!

On the other -- Balder dying is supposed mark the coming of Ragnarok.

Some have speculated that Balder was absent from the first Thor movie because Odin knew this and hid him on Earth to protect him. In which case, perhaps hiding the Cube with him would make sense.

But if that's Balder, I'll be really interested to see how it's related to the Ragnarok concept. Because whoever that is looks LONG dead. What's the time-limit on "marking the coming of..."? (Plus: even in Odinsleep, important mystical things seemed to be known to Odin, and got him to wake up -- things like Thor's restoration and the danger to the Bifrost. It's hard to imagine that, if Balder's life is so mystically important, Odin wouldn't have known when he died, and been a bit more concerned about it.)

I agree, I really don't think it's Balder. Probably a Viking king or something along those lines. I do like that idea of why Balder wasn't in the first film, makes sense, and could make a great second film. I actually made a Balder suit of Armor of what I thought he may look like in the movie universe. :)

[Wolvieboy17]

Imagine if Coulson turned out to be Balder... That would be epic :P

It would be great way to tie Balder into it, because let's not forget this is in the 40's. Perhaps AFTER the cube is stolen, that's when Odin send Balder to earth as a guardian of sorts.

[Monsieur Xavier]

So the Cosmic Cube isn't build by AIM and come from a distant past ?

[cherokeesam]

In the comic con footage wasn't it said that on the wall he knocks down to get to the tomb is The World Tree Yggdrasil.

Maybe when the Red Skull is looking about the room and sees Yggdrasil he mentions to the soldiers something similar to what Thor said to Jane about the different planets forming Yggdrasil and continue to say that the All-Father Odin once collected the most powerful weapons from across the World Tree to safe guard them.

That would be a pretty subtle connection to Thor and be a really strong connection without seeming forced.

I think the reason Red Skull is searching Viking tombs will have more to do with the Nazis' historical ties to the occult than anything else. The Nazis were big on Teutonic/Norse myth and symbolism, so it would make sense for Johann Schmidt to be looking around for some Norse objects of power. Including a certain Cube.

[04nbod]

Its not Balder in the tomb. The crown the corpse has on is far too practical.

[Carlo Comicus]

Just realize an interview about 3D on Captain America movie. Online in the next days. :)

[Vartha]

So the Cosmic Cube isn't build by AIM and come from a distant past ?
Nope, in the movie-verse Marvel has Odin collected several items and stored them in a vault on Asgard to keep universal peace.
At one point you were supposed to be able to see the cube in Thor during Thor and Loki's childhood talk from Odin near Mjolnir in Asgard's vault.
THAT was during the viking era that Odin talked to Thor and Loki about the Casket of Ancient winters. SOMETIME between then and WWII Odin placed the Comic cube on Earth to hide it.

[Vartha]

Its not Balder in the tomb. The crown the corpse has on is far too practical.
The only other Asgardian I can think of that it could be is the Grand Visor to Odin.
Tho Balder in a way would make sense since Odin placed an enchantment on Balder where nothing could harm him to prevent the Ragnarok.
If they couldn't give Balder a Viking burial by burning his body they may have buried him here for some hidden reason.

[Monsieur Xavier]

Nope, in the movie-verse Marvel has Odin collected several items and stored them in a vault on Asgard to keep universal peace.
At one point you were supposed to be able to see the cube in Thor during Thor and Loki's childhood talk from Odin near Mjolnir in Asgard's vault.
THAT was during the viking era that Odin talked to Thor and Loki about the Casket of Ancient winters. SOMETIME between then and WWII Odin placed the Comic cube on Earth to hide it.

Thanks for the info. I will have to remember that when Thor DvD/BR is released !

[Vartha]

Imagine if Coulson turned out to be Balder... That would be epic :P

It would be great way to tie Balder into it, because let's not forget this is in the 40's. Perhaps AFTER the cube is stolen, that's when Odin send Balder to earth as a guardian of sorts.
I agree, that idea I like alot

[Vartha]

Thanks for the info. I will have to remember that when Thor DvD/BR is released !
there is SUPPOSED to be a section dealing with the items in Odin's vault on the Thor dvd, tho nothing was listed to what was in the Vault on Asgard that he had collected.

[Monsieur Xavier]

there is SUPPOSED to be a section dealing with the items in Odin's vault on the Thor dvd, tho nothing was listed to what was in the Vault on Asgard that he had collected.

I'm lost, I think my English reading comprehension skills failed me again.
So it is only guess work ?

PS : sorry for the slight Thor hijack on a Cap thread.

[Vartha]

I'm lost, I think my English reading comprehension skills failed me again.
So it is only guess work ?

PS : sorry for the slight Thor hijack on a Cap thread.
hehe There IS to be items from Odin's Vault on the dvd but Marvel has not released the list of those items IN the vault.
I guess some items are in the book, The Art of Thor if you can locate the book to page through.

[darkslayer101]

mabye i am late...but heres some new stills
http://www.**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=41219
enjoy

[Dr Lee]

not seen those.....

[Matt Mortem]

Thats the first I've seen that cosmic cube pic. CRAZY

[Spider-ManHero12]

Awesome. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

The skeleton with the cube pic reminds me of Indiana Jones. :woot:

[Spideyfan93]

The skeleton with the cube pic reminds me of Indiana Jones. :woot:

And that is an amazing thing. :awesome:

[HUMANIMAL]

the score as well reminds me of indie;-)

[marvel_freshman]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3895/04captainamerica.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9908/20captainamerica.jpg
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3808/17captainamerica.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6248/08captainamerica.jpg

[marvel_freshman]

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7189/06captainamerica.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8549/07captainamerica.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8223/09captainamerica.jpg
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8176/10captainamerica.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1448/12captainamerica.jpg

[marvel_freshman]

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1650/14captainamerica.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5791/19captainamerica.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3496/24captainamerica.jpg

[paulogonza]

amazing photos

[captainrogers]

Lovin the Steve and Bucky one.

[Simo]

Awesome! Love the Skullmobile and look at the devastation from the bike chase! :woot:

Now to wait for some HQ versions!

[Matt Mortem]

Dum Dum looks great!!

[Dr Lee]

Dum Dum looks great!!

he does... i hope in hell that they can make a way of getting him into the modern day stuff....he looks too cool to just stay in the past....

[Spideyfan93]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8223/09captainamerica.jpg

Looks to be the best comic book movie kiss since Upside Down Spidey.

[Matt Mortem]

he does... i hope in hell that they can make a way of getting him into the modern day stuff....he looks too cool to just stay in the past....

Oh I agree. I've always really liked Dum Dum. I want him in more than one film

[Spider-ManHero12]

Wow, love those pictures!

[BizarroAids]

Nice photos! Gotta love Dum Dum!!

[Venom'sDad]

Anybody notice Bucky's wings....... btw, who the lady posing on the jeep?

[Duker Jay]

he does... i hope in hell that they can make a way of getting him into the modern day stuff....he looks too cool to just stay in the past....

No doubt.

[Spider-Vader]

That's actually a valid concern. Although I like the idea now of War Machine, Falcon, and Heimdall teaming up for Black Avengers...:oldrazz:...:dry:...:cmad:

What? No Black Panther or Luke Cage? Hell, Luke is basically cast already. :woot:

[Hunter Rider]

And that is an amazing thing. :awesome:

Agreed. :D


http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9908/20captainamerica.jpg


This is a great pic, the angle is perfect. I am guessing it's right before they swing down onto the train.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3808/17captainamerica.jpg

Love it! :applaud This is in the big bike chase right?


http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8176/10captainamerica.jpg


I know some don't care for them but I really dig the look of the Hydra soldiers.

[The Caped Knight]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3895/04captainamerica.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9908/20captainamerica.jpg
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3808/17captainamerica.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6248/08captainamerica.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7189/06captainamerica.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8549/07captainamerica.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8223/09captainamerica.jpg
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8176/10captainamerica.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1448/12captainamerica.jpg

Whoa awesome pics, thanks for sharing

[Iron_Stark]

Those pics look great.

Love that Cap and Bucky shot.

[RedSkull]

is that...red skull driving a car?

[Monsieur Xavier]

is that...red skull driving a car?

Yes, it is you :)

[herolee10]

Does anyone know if it's canon that Steve in this film is established as being a orphan, with is mother (last remaining family member) having died when he was young?

[04nbod]

The only other Asgardian I can think of that it could be is the Grand Visor to Odin.
Tho Balder in a way would make sense since Odin placed an enchantment on Balder where nothing could harm him to prevent the Ragnarok.
If they couldn't give Balder a Viking burial by burning his body they may have buried him here for some hidden reason.

Or it could be a random guard. Its hard to imagine Odin thinking the cube would safe with a dead man unless he doesn't stay dead.