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Vartha
07-09-2011, 08:11 AM
Welcome to the First Thor 2 news thread!
Keep in mind, same rules NO leaked pictures or video still apply.

Son of Coul
07-09-2011, 08:42 AM
Weehoo! Subscribin'.

Vartha
07-09-2011, 08:45 AM
Thinking this time around the News thread should be stuck to the top

Vartha
07-09-2011, 08:50 AM
Basically we decided since there's a date for Thor 2 set that it it was time to start the Thor 2 threads.

Vartha
07-09-2011, 08:50 AM
double post

R_Hythlodeus
07-09-2011, 09:48 AM
yeahhhhhhhh. it makes the sequel more real. So, lets speculate. What storylines would all of you like to see in the sequel?

Vartha
07-09-2011, 10:16 AM
Yeah I still would like to see Enchantress and Executioner. Possibly have Loki imprisoned from his involvement of events in Avengers and acting through Amora and Skurge

chiefchirpa
07-09-2011, 10:42 AM
I say go with Loki (humanoid Asgard, Magic), Malekith (Dark Elf, Thief) and Ulik (Troll, Strongman) banding together with their goons invading Midgard. That way they can still reuse Earth and Jane Foster while the threats look inhumans.

Though I see why the studio might pick the double E s : cheaper budget. They look human, less makeup, and voila budget could still remain at $150 million 2013 value. On the other hand, the film may turn out looking to be ordinary.

Vartha
07-09-2011, 11:25 AM
Just because it's E & E doesn't mean it'd be average. I mean who says it has to take place on Earth?
If it takes place on Asgard it can still have alot of brief cameos from various villains.

chiefchirpa
07-09-2011, 11:38 AM
It has to take place on Earth to include Natal... Jane Foster.

Spider-Fan
07-09-2011, 11:44 AM
I think the other realms need to be worked into Thor 2. Enchantress I think is prob best idea to go with for villain of Thor 2 (with Executioner). Maybe she sould tempt him into doing something stupid (like free Surtur or something really bad). I'd love to see Loki somehow involved.

As for Jane Foster, she should be in it. But...I want other realms than just Asgard and Earth! :cmad:

Gamma Burst
07-09-2011, 11:50 AM
Great; I'm subscribing.
As Spider-Fan said, more realms are a must be explored in the sequel!

Vartha
07-09-2011, 11:51 AM
Jane better be in it if she's not in Avengers! lol

Vartha
07-09-2011, 11:55 AM
Great; I'm subscribing.
As Spider-Fan said, more realms are a must be explored in the sequel!
Yeah tho what's the best way and which villains should be used to show more of the nine realms?
So far the only ones I can think of off hand that have been ON earth that are Asgardian/nine realms are Loki, Amora, Skurge, and Ulik.
Surtr and or Ymir are too soon for the 2nd movie.

chiefchirpa
07-09-2011, 11:59 AM
The ending part of Thor is about Thor seeking Jane, & vice versa. Jane is the "Joker" of the Thor movie series or the ties that bind the first movie with the sequel. Even if Portman decides not to be in the sequel, there will be someone else (sadly) who'll be Jane Foster.

That's why I think Earth is still important in the sequel. Jane Foster in other realms wouldn't be that believable.

Gamma Burst
07-09-2011, 12:06 PM
To me, it should be Amora and Skurge.

Vartha
07-09-2011, 12:18 PM
The ending part of Thor is about Thor seeking Jane, & vice versa. Jane is the "Joker" of the Thor movie series or the ties that bind the first movie with the sequel. Even if Portman decides not to be in the sequel, there will be someone else (sadly) who'll be Jane Foster.

That's why I think Earth is still important in the sequel. Jane Foster in other realms wouldn't be that believable.
I'm not saying leave earth completely out but I'm not saying leave Asgard behind either.
Avengers should set up something that includes both worlds for Thor as the Earth's Mightiest heroes had done.
Yeah Odin shows he's proud of Thor at the end of Thor, but he should also know Thor loves Jane as well and wants to be back on earth.

Quasimod0
07-09-2011, 12:59 PM
Alright! A new subforum! I think thor 2 should definately focus more on asgard and other realms. I wanna see some big battles like the frost giant battle, except larger

BigThor
07-09-2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah I still would like to see Enchantress and Executioner. Possibly have Loki imprisoned from his involvement of events in Avengers and acting through Amora and Skurge

This :up:

Alright! A new subforum! I think thor 2 should definately focus more on asgard and other realms. I wanna see some big battles like the frost giant battle, except larger

This as well :woot:

:thor::thor::thor:

Thor_Odinson
07-09-2011, 02:58 PM
Woohoo! A new subforum! :woot:

I would like to see Thor 2 have a balance between Asgard, the other realms, and Earth.

Shadowlord X
07-09-2011, 03:10 PM
I too would love to see Amora the Enchantress & Skurge the Executioner.

I think the core of the story should be THOR's developing love for Jane Foster, played against Odin's disapproval of his son's romantic involvement with a mortal Earth woman.

That theme of parent's disapproval of a child's relationship is a strongle relatable for the GA.

Get Enchantress in as an Asgardian woman whom he would prefer THOR be with but doesn't realise is she is nefarious. Have her persual of THOR play in to an ulterior motive, e.g., the release of an Asgardian prisoner of tremendous power such as Fafnir.

Obviously this concept needs more developement.

Son of Coul
07-09-2011, 03:44 PM
I too would love to see Amora the Enchantress & Skurge the Executioner.

I think the core of the story should be THOR's developing love for Jane Foster, played against Odin's disapproval of his son's romantic involvement with a mortal Earth woman.

That theme of parent's disapproval of a child's relationship is a strongle relatable for the GA.

Get Enchantress in as an Asgardian woman whom he would prefer THOR be with but doesn't realise is she is nefarious. Have her persual of THOR play in to an ulterior motive, e.g., the release of an Asgardian prisoner of tremendous power such as Fafnir.

Obviously this concept needs more developement.

I like this with the Jane/Odin/tying into Enchantress stuff. With some development I think you really could have a helluva concept.

Gamma Burst
07-09-2011, 05:29 PM
I too would love to see Amora the Enchantress & Skurge the Executioner.

I think the core of the story should be THOR's developing love for Jane Foster, played against Odin's disapproval of his son's romantic involvement with a mortal Earth woman.

That theme of parent's disapproval of a child's relationship is a strongle relatable for the GA.

Get Enchantress in as an Asgardian woman whom he would prefer THOR be with but doesn't realise is she is nefarious. Have her persual of THOR play in to an ulterior motive, e.g., the release of an Asgardian prisoner of tremendous power such as Fafnir.

Obviously this concept needs more developement.

Good ideas!:up:

Tony Stark
07-09-2011, 09:34 PM
I was thinking about this the other day, and I hope that Thor 2 is a prequel to Avengers, because I'd like the story of how he returns to Jane be an independant story not tied to Avengers. This may cause some problems with Loki, and I'm not fully sure how it would work out, but I just hope in Avengers where we're likely not to see Jane at all, explain his return to earth.

Loki explains to Heimdall that there are passages between worlds to which even his eyes are blind, which is how he brought the frost giants to Asguard and how he escapes his seeming fate only to appear to be controlling Dr. Sellwig.

There is somewhat of a hint as to the passages as in the pre credit scene, you can see the sillhouette of Yggdrassil in the the form of a giant nebula like wormhole passages, and I immagine that's how he'll get there.

Iron_Stark
07-09-2011, 09:39 PM
I don't know much about Thor's rogues gallery but I eventually want to see Surtur and the Twilight sword. He looks like a bad MFer.

Gamma Burst
07-09-2011, 10:07 PM
I don't know much about Thor's rogues gallery but I eventually want to see Surtur and the Twilight sword. He looks like a bad MFer.

A guy who can go toe a toe (and kill) Odin definitely is a bad MFer.

Vartha
07-10-2011, 01:08 AM
Still tho I don't see Surtur until Thor 3 maybe even ending credits to Thor 2 depending on what is going on in Avengers.

herolee10
07-10-2011, 01:40 AM
If I'm not mistaken, in regards to Jane Foster, doesn't Thor end up bringing Jane to Asgard in order to get Odin's approval, which ends up with Odin testing her to see if she's worthy of her son?

They could always go for that, and seeing as how Jane is interested in outer worlds/dimensions in this interpretation of her, it would make sense if she wanted to visit Asgard on a professional level as well.

I really do hope that Natalie Portman returns to reprise her role. I'm tired of seeing Major recasts happen. Plus, I can't nor wish to see anyone else play that role than her.

Vartha
07-10-2011, 02:38 AM
Jane was giving powers at one time. I think also Shared the same space with Sif

herolee10
07-10-2011, 03:16 AM
Jane was giving powers at one time. I think also Shared the same space with Sif

Makes you wonder if they'll go for a triangle route in the second film? I mean given that Thor ends up with Sif in the comics, traditionally, Thor will eventually end up with her in the film unless something strange happens.lol



In any case, I hope that they go for a Siege of Asgard plot for the next film, since I'd like to see Asgard be put into danger in order to up the scale. They could really pull some great visuals, similar to LOTR, and it would explain as to why the rest of the Avengers wouldn't be able to be there somewhat.

Vartha
07-10-2011, 11:51 AM
Yeah that one Sif/Jane story would be interesting to say the least. Thing is would they go that route even with Thor not sharing space with Blake?

I don't see Siege working in the Movie-verse yet. I think that would have to be at least Thor 10 lol.
There's alot of Thor story to cover between now and then in other words.

Vartha
07-10-2011, 11:56 AM
I always wanted Jane to become Valkyrie. I thought it would have been a strange twist.

R_Hythlodeus
07-10-2011, 03:54 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Malekith is more interesting as a villain? Don't get me wrong, E+E are great villains too, but Malekith has a more interesting motivation and is visually way more exciting.

Gamma Burst
07-10-2011, 04:25 PM
The possibility to see the dark elves already makes Malekith very interesting.

Vartha
07-10-2011, 05:08 PM
I can see a sub plot somewhere through Thor 2 leading to a Ragnarok in Thor 3 where past enemies of Asgard and the Universe are building somewhere.

Gamma Burst
07-10-2011, 05:12 PM
I can see a sub plot somewhere through Thor 2 leading to a Ragnarok in Thor 3 where past enemies of Asgard and the Universe are building somewhere.

That would be a dream come true.

Vartha
07-10-2011, 05:20 PM
Well it CAN start with the Frost Giants too. I mean look what Loki's acts had done to Jontunheim.

ThorThunderGod
07-11-2011, 12:13 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I really want a Ragnarok story told in two movies. Maybe the main part of Thor 2 is about Malekith, Enchantress, Executioner, Ulik and a few others trying to start Ragnarok, Thor and company preventing their plan, then at the end credits it is revealed that it was just a part of a grander scheme to bring about the end of Asgard where Loki and Hela were actually the ones who were the masterminds behind it, and they successfully bring out Surtur. Then Thor3 can be about stopping Surtur, Hela and Loki, and ending with Thor finally back on Earth with Jane but forever out of Asgard. Which would complete his "origin" story on how he becomes Earth's mightiest protector.

Yes, I know at the end of Thor we see Thor longing for Jane, but Natalie Portman wasn't too well received by fans, and she seem to want to take a break from acting anyways to concentrate on being a mother, so this works out for everybody. She can have a nice meaty part at Thor3 (hopefully) and if possible Thor 4, to fulfill her 3 movie deal with Marvel.

And Marvel, please, no matter what, please NO BETA RAY BILL. We haven't seen enough of Thor's origin yet, we do not want another character stealing Thor's thunder. Maybe in the 8th Thor movie? Haha

Vartha
07-11-2011, 01:01 AM
Well if Thor gets popular enough through Avengers and Thor 2 maybe they'll think about a 3rd an 4th movie? :D

04nbod
07-11-2011, 05:06 AM
If I'm not mistaken, in regards to Jane Foster, doesn't Thor end up bringing Jane to Asgard in order to get Odin's approval, which ends up with Odin testing her to see if she's worthy of her son?

They could always go for that, and seeing as how Jane is interested in outer worlds/dimensions in this interpretation of her, it would make sense if she wanted to visit Asgard on a professional level as well.

I really do hope that Natalie Portman returns to reprise her role. I'm tired of seeing Major recasts happen. Plus, I can't nor wish to see anyone else play that role than her.

It would have to be written differently. This Odin seems wise rather than deceptive for a start. Also, you really can't take the leading lady and insult her and screw her over like Stan did.

I don't know about you guys, but I really want a Ragnarok story told in two movies. Maybe the main part of Thor 2 is about Malekith, Enchantress, Executioner, Ulik and a few others trying to start Ragnarok, Thor and company preventing their plan, then at the end credits it is revealed that it was just a part of a grander scheme to bring about the end of Asgard where Loki and Hela were actually the ones who were the masterminds behind it, and they successfully bring out Surtur. Then Thor3 can be about stopping Surtur, Hela and Loki, and ending with Thor finally back on Earth with Jane but forever out of Asgard. Which would complete his "origin" story on how he becomes Earth's mightiest protector.

Yes, I know at the end of Thor we see Thor longing for Jane, but Natalie Portman wasn't too well received by fans, and she seem to want to take a break from acting anyways to concentrate on being a mother, so this works out for everybody. She can have a nice meaty part at Thor3 (hopefully) and if possible Thor 4, to fulfill her 3 movie deal with Marvel.

And Marvel, please, no matter what, please NO BETA RAY BILL. We haven't seen enough of Thor's origin yet, we do not want another character stealing Thor's thunder. Maybe in the 8th Thor movie? Haha

What fans were those? Plenty consider her one of the best parts of the movie plus she was the only female character given any depth.

I always wanted Jane to become Valkyrie. I thought it would have been a strange twist.

I kind of want Ultimate Jane to take Thor's old Braddock stuff and become Thordis. Heck, I just want Marvel to make an effort with her for once.


Makes you wonder if they'll go for a triangle route in the second film? I mean given that Thor ends up with Sif in the comics, traditionally, Thor will eventually end up with her in the film unless something strange happens.lol



In any case, I hope that they go for a Siege of Asgard plot for the next film, since I'd like to see Asgard be put into danger in order to up the scale. They could really pull some great visuals, similar to LOTR, and it would explain as to why the rest of the Avengers wouldn't be able to be there somewhat.

Thor hasn't ended up with anyone. I'd say that if Nat is still around the chances of Sif getting Thor are about as low as the chances of Happy getting Pepper.


Why am I sticking up for Jane so much? LOL
I never did like the idea that the Doctor/Nurse wasn't good enough for a god.

Gamma Burst
07-11-2011, 05:24 AM
It would have to be written differently. This Odin seems wise rather than deceptive for a start. Also, you really can't take the leading lady and insult her and screw her over like Stan did.



What fans were those? Plenty consider her one of the best parts of the movie plus she was the only female character given any depth.



I kind of want Ultimate Jane to take Thor's old Braddock stuff and become Thordis. Heck, I just want Marvel to make an effort with her for once.

Are you talking about that machinery that simulated Thor's powers?

04nbod
07-11-2011, 05:41 AM
Are you talking about that machinery that simulated Thor's powers?

The belt and the huge hammer. He doesn't need that stuff now.

Gamma Burst
07-11-2011, 07:11 AM
The belt and the huge hammer. He doesn't need that stuff now.

Yeah, I know. Now he's the real deal.:yay:

sgaana
07-11-2011, 09:06 AM
The idea of a storyline from Thor 2 bridging over to Thor 3 (like a Ragnarok storyline that's "act one" in Thor 2, with a half-resolution leading to "act two" in Thor 3) is really interesting. It would feel a bit like a real trilogy -- similar perhaps to the "downer" ending of an ESB (which proved you can have a downer ending and still tremendously excite fans and the public to come back to see how it's resolved).

But, the thing that makes me think they wouldn't do that is... doesn't it seem likely that between Thor 2, and any possible Thor 3, there's doing to be an Avengers 2?

Yeah, okay, counting chickens. Call me optimistic. But if Avengers is big enough, and it should be, then it gets a sequel; and it just seems like we are likely to see A2 before we see T3.

To keep from confusing the general audience, I'd think that Thor 2 has to wrap up its story enough so that Thor's appearance with the Avengers in A2 doesn't seem weird.

Gamma Burst
07-11-2011, 09:22 AM
Yes, I think we'll se an Avengers 2 before a Thor 3.

BatsDC
07-11-2011, 10:43 AM
I hope we get some reference to Loki being either locked up or fleeing in this film - Thor or/and Odin feeling bad, concerned etc.

Enchantress and Executioner please Marvel.

Jordanstine
07-11-2011, 01:29 PM
I'm a little worried because we're basically going to get 3 THOR's in 3 years, back-to-back-to-back.

Thor - 2011
Avengers - 2012
Thor 2 - 2013

It's almost like the Saw horror film series, which basically comes out with a sequel every year.

I think waiting 2-3 years for a sequel is better planning, plus it gives the audience more anticipation.

THOR 2 almost seems like they're rushing this film and maybe similar to Iron Man 2 - a good enjoyable film, but unlike the first Iron Man, it was a movie that felt like "it had to be made" i.e. Toy Story 2, or Cars 2.

If anything, I think a HULK 2 was more overdue than a THOR 2 film.

Gamma Burst
07-11-2011, 01:36 PM
The more Thor, the better. :)

Raiden
07-11-2011, 03:32 PM
I think Enchantress and Executioner are good villains for the sequel, along with Loki pulling strings and causing havoc in the background. Since they still have other supporting characters like Sif and the Warriors Three, they should keep the number of new characters at a minimal and not go overboard with it like X3 and Spider-man 3 did. I think Jane should also return as a love interest, because without her it'd make Thor's longing for her at the end of the movie rather meaningless.

Vartha
07-11-2011, 04:15 PM
I'm a little worried because we're basically going to get 3 THOR's in 3 years, back-to-back-to-back.

Thor - 2011
Avengers - 2012
Thor 2 - 2013

It's almost like the Saw horror film series, which basically comes out with a sequel every year.

I think waiting 2-3 years for a sequel is better planning, plus it gives the audience more anticipation.

THOR 2 almost seems like they're rushing this film and maybe similar to Iron Man 2 - a good enjoyable film, but unlike the first Iron Man, it was a movie that felt like "it had to be made" i.e. Toy Story 2, or Cars 2.

If anything, I think a HULK 2 was more overdue than a THOR 2 film.
Probably has something with Contracts the stars signed that they're trying to get these out so close together.
I agree tho there should be a Hulk 2, but I bet they want to wait since even tho the other Hulk film wasn't Marvel's Hulk I bet they want it to cool off a bit.

Vartha
07-11-2011, 04:24 PM
I think Enchantress and Executioner are good villains for the sequel, along with Loki pulling strings and causing havoc in the background. Since they still have other supporting characters like Sif and the Warriors Three, they should keep the number of new characters at a minimal and not go overboard with it like X3 and Spider-man 3 did. I think Jane should also return as a love interest, because without her it'd make Thor's longing for her at the end of the movie rather meaningless.
In a way I hope that one news article in the Times about Warriors III maybe getting a spin off happens. That way if they aren't need in Thor 2 they're kept in the public's eye.

Son of Coul
07-11-2011, 04:38 PM
I could totally see them starring in one of these, "Marvel One-Shot"s they're doing for the Blu-Rays (not a big SFX-driven one obviously though).

herolee10
07-12-2011, 03:25 AM
One thing that they could play with in this film, is something that I just saw in Avengers: EMH's, where Thor is torn between his devotion towards serving Asgard and protecting Earth. He could ultimately be given the ultimatum on having to choose as to which realm his allegiances lay with completely by Odin or someone else.

Vartha
07-12-2011, 03:42 AM
I really hope that's touched on somewhat in Avengers with Loki trying to get Thor to distrust Odin in someway, so Loki can do his "thing" in Avenegers but that feeling carries over into Thor2.

04nbod
07-12-2011, 04:11 AM
In a way I hope that one news article in the Times about Warriors III maybe getting a spin off happens. That way if they aren't need in Thor 2 they're kept in the public's eye.

The Warriors Three are the only supporting character so far that I think could support their own movie. They are one of the highlights of Thor's entire canon.

Come to think of it, I like the original parts of Thor's canon way more than any adapted myth character outside Thor himself. hmmm...

herolee10
07-12-2011, 06:58 AM
I really hope that's touched on somewhat in Avengers with Loki trying to get Thor to distrust Odin in someway, so Loki can do his "thing" in Avenegers but that feeling carries over into Thor2.

Heck, Loki could create further tension between the two if he gets Thor to believe that Odin's style of parenting is what led to the tragedy in Loki's decent to madness.

sgaana
07-12-2011, 09:55 AM
Heck, Loki could create further tension between the two if he gets Thor to believe that Odin's style of parenting is what led to the tragedy in Loki's decent to madness.

Well... I'm still not sure if we are sure (from the way the Thor film ended) whether Loki's parentage is known by anyone outside of Odin and Frigga. During the big Thor-Loki fight, Loki denied that Thor was his brother, but didn't exactly explain what he meant, right?

So I'm not sure if we know whether, after Loki's disappearance, Odin sat Thor down and told him the whole background... or whether Odin and Frigga decide to keep it all secret (as far as they're concerned, Loki's dead, so why tell everybody that he was actually Laufey's son?).

At any rate, my point is -- Thor has always come across as extremely honest and without artifice. That contrasts with Loki, of course, but it also contrasts with Odin, who himself (both in comics and in myth) is a bit of a trickster and manipulator. The whole situation with raising Loki is basically a long series of lies that Odin is willing to tell (and Frigga is willing to support him in telling), and it meant lying to Thor and all of Asgard, as well as to Loki.

So... yeah. It would be interesting to see Thor confronted with the proof that his own father lied to him about his brother's identity all those years.

Crimson King
07-12-2011, 10:20 AM
^lol

Vartha
07-12-2011, 10:52 AM
Well... I'm still not sure if we are sure (from the way the Thor film ended) whether Loki's parentage is known by anyone outside of Odin and Frigga. During the big Thor-Loki fight, Loki denied that Thor was his brother, but didn't exactly explain what he meant, right?

So I'm not sure if we know whether, after Loki's disappearance, Odin sat Thor down and told him the whole background... or whether Odin and Frigga decide to keep it all secret (as far as they're concerned, Loki's dead, so why tell everybody that he was actually Laufey's son?).

At any rate, my point is -- Thor has always come across as extremely honest and without artifice. That contrasts with Loki, of course, but it also contrasts with Odin, who himself (both in comics and in myth) is a bit of a trickster and manipulator. The whole situation with raising Loki is basically a long series of lies that Odin is willing to tell (and Frigga is willing to support him in telling), and it meant lying to Thor and all of Asgard, as well as to Loki.

So... yeah. It would be interesting to see Thor confronted with the proof that his own father lied to him about his brother's identity all those years.
Well I wish Frigga's scenes weren't cut, because it helps convey that she understands Odin more than most. I mean there IS one scene she says that there's a reason for everything he does but that's 3/4 the way through the film.
I mean we as fans understand Odin isn't always the most honest when it comes to things he does. Sure they're for the common good but he tends to avoid explaining anything. To Loki I can see where that would upset him, (it would me too) but being kept in the dark so long without any clue seems almost selfish on Odin's part even if he meant all the good to come from the plan.

In a way I see Loki's points in Earth's Mightiest Heroes where Odin SEEMS to lie but in reality he just avoids explaining his actions because he is after all the All Father, why would he need to explain anything?

I can see Loki bringing this point up maybe in Avengers to try to cause doubt between Thor and Odin, but how it continues in Thor 2 is something else.
I See Loki being banished as he was in Earth's mightiest Heroes during Avengers and then acting through Amora and Skurge in Thor2 hopefully with help from Ulik or Malekith.

BigThor
07-12-2011, 02:37 PM
I can see Loki bringing this point up maybe in Avengers to try to cause doubt between Thor and Odin, but how it continues in Thor 2 is something else.

Definatley, this could be the premise for Thor 2 after being brought up in the Avengers.

I See Loki being banished as he was in Earth's mightiest Heroes during Avengers and then acting through Amora and Skurge in Thor2 hopefully with help from Ulik or Malekith.

I'd love to see this, if they do this then Loki could still have a major role in the plot without actually be physically present. It would also give more weight Enchantress and Executioner's roles in the film as well as expanded on the different realms by including Malekith, Kurse, or Ulik.

Spider-Fan
07-12-2011, 06:11 PM
Well I wish Frigga's scenes weren't cut, because it helps convey that she understands Odin more than most. I mean there IS one scene she says that there's a reason for everything he does but that's 3/4 the way through the film.
I mean we as fans understand Odin isn't always the most honest when it comes to things he does. Sure they're for the common good but he tends to avoid explaining anything. To Loki I can see where that would upset him, (it would me too) but being kept in the dark so long without any clue seems almost selfish on Odin's part even if he meant all the good to come from the plan.

In a way I see Loki's points in Earth's Mightiest Heroes where Odin SEEMS to lie but in reality he just avoids explaining his actions because he is after all the All Father, why would he need to explain anything?

I can see Loki bringing this point up maybe in Avengers to try to cause doubt between Thor and Odin, but how it continues in Thor 2 is something else.
I See Loki being banished as he was in Earth's mightiest Heroes during Avengers and then acting through Amora and Skurge in Thor2 hopefully with help from Ulik or Malekith.

I think Odin's hypocracy was shown in Thor, but I do get the impression in the film what he is doing is for the best of Asgard. His negotiation with Laffey gave us that, and showed he is thinking about Asgard as a whole, not out of bloodlust and manipulation. I can't say for sure how needed the deleted scenes from Thor were to the film until I see them. Often times, I can see why certain scenes in the deleted material were cut.

Vartha
07-12-2011, 06:27 PM
I think Odin's hypocracy was shown in Thor, but I do get the impression in the film what he is doing is for the best of Asgard. His negotiation with Laffey gave us that, and showed he is thinking about Asgard as a whole, not out of bloodlust and manipulation. I can't say for sure how needed the deleted scenes from Thor were to the film until I see them. Often times, I can see why certain scenes in the deleted material were cut.
Well there was scene with Frigga that was cut that I think would have helped also show his love for his mother just a bit more in the scene where Loki comes to Thor to tell Thor he wasn't wanted back. Another with Frigga between Odin and Frigga would have helped too.

I just hope these scenes are all on the DVD so I can view them IN the film on my laptop. If I had an S video Cable I could also watch on my tv lol

Spider-Fan
07-12-2011, 07:03 PM
Well there was scene with Frigga that was cut that I think would have helped also show his love for his mother just a bit more in the scene where Loki comes to Thor to tell Thor he wasn't wanted back. Another with Frigga between Odin and Frigga would have helped too.

I just hope these scenes are all on the DVD so I can view them IN the film on my laptop. If I had an S video Cable I could also watch on my tv lol

I think the affection for his mother was evident in the coronation scene. Plus, she seemed to care for Thor in the scene Loki talks to her while Odin sleeps. That scene may help though. Like I said, I can't really judge til we see the scenes. Loki's coronation is the one I am eying as probably should have been in the movie.

Vartha
07-12-2011, 07:17 PM
I think the affection for his mother was evident in the coronation scene. Plus, she seemed to care for Thor in the scene Loki talks to her while Odin sleeps. That scene may help though. Like I said, I can't really judge til we see the scenes. Loki's coronation is the one I am eying as probably should have been in the movie.
I can't wait to see these cut scenes.
at this second I can't recall if there was actual footage of banter between Warriors III just before they toss Volstagg that was in the script that was funny I'm hoping is in the cut scene, but Volstagg suggests tossing him and Hogun and Fandral gripe a bit before agreeing lol

marcvader
07-13-2011, 08:31 AM
I wish studios would give is a cut of the films with the deleted scenes in them as apposed to having them separate. It would also be cool to have the ability to select or unselect the deleted scenes you want to be included.

superotherside
07-13-2011, 03:34 PM
Good ideas!:up:

agree that would be awesome... but I'd like a big battle for Asgard or something in it too sort of like Lord of the Rings style...

superotherside
07-13-2011, 03:43 PM
I too would love to see Amora the Enchantress & Skurge the Executioner.

I think the core of the story should be THOR's developing love for Jane Foster, played against Odin's disapproval of his son's romantic involvement with a mortal Earth woman.

That theme of parent's disapproval of a child's relationship is a strongle relatable for the GA.

Get Enchantress in as an Asgardian woman whom he would prefer THOR be with but doesn't realise is she is nefarious. Have her persual of THOR play in to an ulterior motive, e.g., the release of an Asgardian prisoner of tremendous power such as Fafnir.

Obviously this concept needs more developement.

that sounds awesome but I'd like a battle for Asgard at the end which has a sort of Lord of the Rings style to it

^^^
sorry for above post this is what I meant to say and I don't know how to delete a post

comics256
07-17-2011, 01:30 PM
This is how I would like it to be:

THOR 2/ HEART AND WAR - 2014
Thor and Jane are living on New York, Jane finds out she is pregnant. Odin prepares a celebration for them but Enchantress sends The Executioner to attack Thor while she kidnaps Jane, but she battles Sif. Jane stabs Amora in the back only to find out she is Sif and that Sif is Amora in disguise. Amora donīt let anybody know she was involved so that she and Thor search for them in the Nine Realms along with Balder (Thorīs brother who was in Muspelheim during the first movie) and The Warriors Three. They visit Svartalheim and battle a group of Dark Elves (Algrim is present but unnamed)lead by Malekith. Malekith blackmails Amora, she manipulates Balder to kill him. One of the Dark Elves tells them that the exilated Giants live in Niffelheim, so they go there. Amora manages to kiss Thor before their confront with Skurge, The Executioner, when Thor defeats him and he sees that Amora will just let him die he tells Thor that she was behind it all. Amora battles Thor and The Warriors Three with the help of the controlled Balder. Volstagg and Fandral find Jane and Sif, they ran away from their prision. Enchantress is about to be defeated when she grabs Jane and opens a wormhole, they go to Muspelheim. Thor scream for Heimdall teleport him to where they are, but nothing happens. Balder is fainted and the Warriors Three are hurt, Sif is about to die. Loki appears to them and teleport them all to Asgard, he have a talk to Thor. He tells him that Amora should be stoped, because she will never rest until Thor is hers. Thor asks Loki why he is helping him and the Trickster tells him that if Thor will live forever in misery it will be because of him. Thor teleports himself to Muspelheim with the help of Loki, he battles an army of demons until he finds Amora and Jane. He tells Amora that he loves her and he wants to be with her, Amora believes him and they share a kiss. To make sure they wont be disturbed she creates a spear and stabs Jane in the stomach. Thor is furious ,he attacks Amora until she is almost dead.She falls into a vulcano and he come back to Asgard along with Jane. There she is healed but the baby is dead, Odin tells Thor to hold it, he will be fine. Thor comes back to Earth and decides that he wont ever be back to Asgard, Balder asks him to reconsider but he denies. Odin send a Valkyrie called Brunhilde to stay in Earth and make sure that Thor donīt do anything stupid. Loki materializes himself in Odinīs chamber when his father is alone. Loki tells Odin that he deserves now the throne of Asgard. Odin tells him that he is not the only Asgardian that knows how to lie. Loki is back to a pocked dimension called Isle of Silence.
AFTER CREDITS : Enchantress shows herself alive and manages to get to Midgard. She meets with Samuel Sterns (the Leader).

THOR 3 / THE TWILIGHT OF ASGARDIANS – 2018
Loki leads an attack on Asgard with the aid of Kurse (one of the dark elves from the first movie) ,Ulik (king of trolls) and Fenris. Odin knows that Loki will bring the Ragnarok to them , so hprepare an army. Thor learns about the war and travels to Asgard. He is emprisionated by Loki, who is now the king of Asgard. The movie is made in four point of views : Odinīs, Thorīs, Lokiīs and Balderīs. Loki plans to kill Balder and Thor in the front of the Asgardians. The Warriors Three are trapped in an Island in Muspelheim. Sif managed to scape to Earth and Heimdall was blinded by Kurse. Thor sets himself free, he manage to set Balder free. Loki battle his brothers but he is defeated. Kurse manages to kill Balder before thor could smash him with his hammer. When Thorīs hammer and Ulikīs fist are hitted by each other a huge explosion happens and Asgard is destroyed. Odin makes a deal with Hela, and prevents the death of the Asgardians, but Asgard canīt be saved. In change he will give her his soul. Thor falls in Earth as he did in the first movie , he meet Sif and Jane. The others Asgardians are seeing inside human bodies, once a person looks at the mirror it reflects the Asgardian inside. Thor is in morn for his kind.
AFTER CREDITS : Amora smiles to find a human whose Loki is inside.

misjuevos
07-20-2011, 02:10 AM
well i would most like to see thor with helmet for the sequel. i would also like to see him in space flying around. i think the best thing is to delve deeper into the other realms. really showcase the worlds of thor.

BigThor
07-20-2011, 03:46 AM
well i would most like to see thor with helmet for the sequel. i would also like to see him in space flying around. i think the best thing is to delve deeper into the other realms. really showcase the worlds of thor.

This :up:

ddddeeee
07-20-2011, 07:31 AM
Do you think if cap underperforms this weekend Marvel will move Thor 2 to May 2014?

Vartha
07-20-2011, 10:12 AM
I don't think they'd move Thor 2 because of Cap's B.O.

Gamma Burst
07-20-2011, 10:14 AM
Do you think if cap underperforms this weekend Marvel will move Thor 2 to May 2014?

Why would they do it?

ddddeeee
07-20-2011, 10:14 AM
I really hope they do. It's looking like Thor will be the most successful CBM of 2011 and it's release date had a lot to do with that.

Gamma Burst
07-20-2011, 10:17 AM
Maybe, but we don't know how July 2013 will compare to May 2014. The last date could very well be much crowded than the first.

steintym
07-20-2011, 01:52 PM
I don't think Cap's BO will have much, or any impact, on a release for Thor. It would have to be a complete collapse (which I don't expect to happen).

BTW - Count me in on wanting to see the Enchantress and Executioner in the sequel.

BigThor
07-20-2011, 08:04 PM
I don't think Cap's BO will have much, or any impact, on a release for Thor. It would have to be a complete collapse (which I don't expect to happen).

BTW - Count me in on wanting to see the Enchantress and Executioner in the sequel.

This:thor: (especially what's in the bold)

Vartha
07-21-2011, 04:04 PM
Man can't wait to see Thor's Avengers art. Both Cap and Iron-Man have posters so far, and it's looking like one more pic will be made to tie the three together!
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z321/Vartha2/Avengers%20movie/4e284db0432a2.jpg

Gamma Burst
07-21-2011, 05:17 PM
Man can't wait to see Thor's Avengers art. Both Cap and Iron-Man have posters so far, and it's looking like one more pic will be made to tie the three together!
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z321/Vartha2/Avengers%20movie/4e284db0432a2.jpg

Yep! The Big Three.:word:

BigThor
07-22-2011, 05:19 PM
Man, you gotta love the Big Three. :woot:

TheCorpulent1
07-23-2011, 11:08 AM
Cap's new costume surprisingly looks a lot better than his first one.

misjuevos
07-23-2011, 12:47 PM
Yea I can't wait for thors pic. I think caps modern suit looks so cool. When I first saw the pic of his cowl in the glass case it looked like it would be bulky. But seeing it on him shows it is form fitting. It looks awesome.

I think a sleeveless Thor will mean we are gonna see some huge feats of strength in avengers. Guess Thor is gonna need the extra room for his godly might.

Flemm
07-23-2011, 12:58 PM
Yeah, maybe, though I think it might simply be that the studio was surprised at how much Hemsworth was able to bulk up for Thor.

Now that they know he won't look scrawny, he's in the sleaveless outfit.

sgaana
07-23-2011, 01:43 PM
Yeah, maybe, though I think it might simply be that the studio was surprised at how much Hemsworth was able to bulk up for Thor.


It was mentioned in several interviews that he bulked up so much that his arms didn't fit in the scale-mail sleeves. I think it was some Hiddleston interview in which he said that Hemsworth had problems in some scenes with the sleeves being so tight they were making his hands numb?

If that's so... they might have ditched the sleeves just to make things more comfortable for Hemsworth. (Similar to the way Evans says that Cap's Avengers costume is a lot easier to move around in.)

BigThor
07-23-2011, 03:19 PM
I think a sleeveless Thor will mean we are gonna see some huge feats of strength in avengers. Guess Thor is gonna need the extra room for his godly might.

That would be so f***ing awesome, that's one of the few things that Thor's film didn't captilize on.

one4smoke
07-23-2011, 06:56 PM
Man can't wait to see Thor's Avengers art. Both Cap and Iron-Man have posters so far, and it's looking like one more pic will be made to tie the three together!
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z321/Vartha2/Avengers%20movie/4e284db0432a2.jpg

Here ya go...

one4smoke
07-23-2011, 07:04 PM
Well, here it is: http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/sdcc-2011-avengers-2012-thor-and-nick-fury-art

Gamma Burst
07-23-2011, 07:07 PM
Well, it it is:

It is...?:huh:

misjuevos
07-23-2011, 07:13 PM
That would be so f***ing awesome, that's one of the few things that Thor's film didn't captilize on.

Thor looked huge trying to lift mjolnir and he was mortal then. Imagine him holding up the heli carrier after an attack sends it crashing down.

one4smoke
07-23-2011, 08:18 PM
It is...?:huh:

Oops...:cwink:

daderade
07-24-2011, 03:51 AM
BigThor I am DYING to see that!!! I like how people say Thor had no real strength feats....smacking those frost giants(several at a time near the end of the fight) about a hundred feet at high velocity is a feat of strength.

Gamma Burst
07-24-2011, 04:00 AM
BigThor I am DYING to see that!!! I like how people say Thor had no real strength feats....smacking those frost giants(several at a time near the end of the fight) about a hundred feet at high velocity is a feat of strength.

That's very true.

misjuevos
07-24-2011, 01:09 PM
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lot15fMxpP1qm4wbio1_500.jpg

here is the thor one finally. it's only thor version and not avengers version. maybe we will get a new one with them all together in avengers suits.

i put them all together

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx239/thekraxen/avengers00.jpg

link to the original size 3849x853
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7506/avengers00originalsize.jpg

BigThor
07-24-2011, 03:32 PM
BigThor I am DYING to see that!!! I like how people say Thor had no real strength feats....smacking those frost giants(several at a time near the end of the fight) about a hundred feet at high velocity is a feat of strength.

I agree, I hate when people try to argue that "it was his hammer's power that caused the Frost Giants to fly so far".

It was clearly the strength of the person swinging the hammer that sent those creatures flying.

WildcatNC
07-24-2011, 04:17 PM
I agree, I hate when people try to argue that "it was his hammer's power that caused the Frost Giants to fly so far".

It was clearly the strength of the person swinging the hammer that sent those creatures flying.

Another thing people don't mention is him spinning the hammer by the strap. People don't realize how strong you would have to be to generate that kind of speed and maintain it like in the Frost Giant fight.

While I would have liked to have seen a few more feats of strength, it was definitely implied and shown in minor ways.

Besides, the Electricity, flying, energy absorption/deflection is the hammer.

His ability to wield it physically is all his own power.

BigThor
07-24-2011, 06:37 PM
Another thing people don't mention is him spinning the hammer by the strap. People don't realize how strong you would have to be to generate that kind of speed and maintain it like in the Frost Giant fight.

While I would have liked to have seen a few more feats of strength, it was definitely implied and shown in minor ways.

Besides, the Electricity, flying, energy absorption/deflection is the hammer.

His ability to wield it physically is all his own power.

Exactly :woot:

Vartha
07-25-2011, 09:50 AM
Nice. Looks like the first Avengers teaser will be on the Thor dvd too.

Gamma Burst
07-25-2011, 11:18 AM
Nice. Looks like the first Avengers teaser will be on the Thor dvd too.

That's cool!

Thor_Odinson
07-25-2011, 05:11 PM
Nice. Looks like the first Avengers teaser will be on the Thor dvd too.

:up: :woot:

WildcatNC
07-26-2011, 12:13 PM
Has anyone thought that Thor II may take place BEFORE Avengers chronologically? While he is still stranded in Asgard, and maybe explain how he got back? Or at least flesh it out better.

I don't think this is the most likely scenario but its a possibility I thought of. If so then Loki wouldn't be the villain in any way really. It would be a good time to introduce Amora. They also might detail further what leads up to Loki's return. Maybe Amora helped find him.

Flemm
07-26-2011, 02:07 PM
I do think it's possible that Thor might already be back on earth at the beginning of Avengers. For one thing, that's just a convenient way of streamlining the plot. For another, I can't help but think Whedon will want to do a version of that hilarious scene in Ultimates where Fury goes to recruit Thor and Thor initially tells him to shove it where it the sun don't shine :yay:

BigThor
07-26-2011, 06:56 PM
Has anyone thought that Thor II may take place BEFORE Avengers chronologically? While he is still stranded in Asgard, and maybe explain how he got back? Or at least flesh it out better.

I don't think this is the most likely scenario but its a possibility I thought of. If so then Loki wouldn't be the villain in any way really. It would be a good time to introduce Amora. They also might detail further what leads up to Loki's return. Maybe Amora helped find him.

This is a good idea, that would be a good way to introduce Amora AND Skurge.

Spider-Fan
07-26-2011, 08:21 PM
I think Thor 2 will take place after Avengers. I don't see it coming before. I actually can see Thor 2 maybe leading into Cap 2 by releasing the Red Skull back to Earth.

herolee10
07-27-2011, 02:02 AM
I think Thor 2 will take place after Avengers. I don't see it coming before. I actually can see Thor 2 maybe leading into Cap 2 by releasing the Red Skull back to Earth.

Which will result in the following exchange between Thor and CA in Avengers 2:



Steve: First you guys are responsible for having that cursed Cosmic Cube on Earth, and now you send one of its craziest and most evilest beings of all time back there as well? Are you guys CRAZY?!

Thor: Thou blame the father....

Vartha
07-27-2011, 10:29 AM
I guess that's a chance, but it'd be a whole year AFTER Avengers to do that.
I'm sure it'll be Thor, Avengers and Thor 2 story wise tho.

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2011, 06:27 PM
I do think it's possible that Thor might already be back on earth at the beginning of Avengers. For one thing, that's just a convenient way of streamlining the plot. For another, I can't help but think Whedon will want to do a version of that hilarious scene in Ultimates where Fury goes to recruit Thor and Thor initially tells him to shove it where it the sun don't shine :yay:
That would be odd, given that Thor said they could call on him and he'd be there in his own movie.

BigThor
07-27-2011, 06:43 PM
Hey Corp, do you have that new issue of The Mighty Thor where he fights Silver Surfer while Galactus is invading Asgard?

How did the fight go?

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2011, 06:49 PM
Pretty damn well for Thor. I won't spoil it, though. You should definitely read it. :)

steintym
07-27-2011, 07:44 PM
Just for the continuity of things, Thor 2 should really come after The Avengers. As it is, the storyline is starting to get a bit confusing. Start moving things like Thor 2 before The Avengers and things really get odd.

Gamma Burst
07-27-2011, 07:47 PM
Pretty damn well for Thor. I won't spoil it, though. You should definitely read it. :)

It was awesome indeed. This is one badass Thor.:cwink:

GoblinWhirlwind
07-27-2011, 08:14 PM
That would be odd, given that Thor said they could call on him and he'd be there in his own movie.

Yeah, and that would seem like Thor hadn't changed after all, like why would he bother helping mere mortals, be gone.

Gamma Burst
07-27-2011, 11:34 PM
Chris Hemsowrth Shares Thoughts On Kenneth Branagh Passing On THOR Sequel!

http://www.**************.com/fansites/marvelfreshman/news/?a=43099#

04nbod
07-28-2011, 03:11 AM
Just for the continuity of things, Thor 2 should really come after The Avengers. As it is, the storyline is starting to get a bit confusing. Start moving things like Thor 2 before The Avengers and things really get odd.

It should be some time after The Avengers. Show that he's been on Earth for a while.

herolee10
07-28-2011, 04:05 AM
It should be some time after The Avengers. Show that he's been on Earth for a while.

Unless he's reunited with Jane somehow in the Avengers, I would think that they would have him returning to see her right away after the events of that film, which is likely a key event that they want to highlight and show happening on screen, thus making it kind of hard to use the option of Thor 2 happening awhile after the Avengers.

Course, if they have the reunion scene first and flash forward into a couple of weeks/months into the future, that could work.

04nbod
07-28-2011, 05:58 AM
Well I think they should do that in The Avengers and open up Thor 2 with him as an established hero. This would also give more breathing room for the relationship to expand believably when he's known her more than a week.

TheCorpulent1
07-28-2011, 04:28 PM
I still think she'll be involved with bringing Thor back to Earth for Avengers, so I suspect Thor 2 will open with Thor and Jane more cemented as a couple.

herolee10
07-28-2011, 05:04 PM
Well I think they should do that in The Avengers and open up Thor 2 with him as an established hero. This would also give more breathing room for the relationship to expand believably when he's known her more than a week.

I still think she'll be involved with bringing Thor back to Earth for Avengers, so I suspect Thor 2 will open with Thor and Jane more cemented as a couple.

The thing is though, there’s only so little that they would be able to do with evolving the Thor and Jane relationship in the Avengers since as it stands right now, Natalie Portman is not slated to appear in the film at all. I even read an article of her confirming that she’s not in the film. She did say in that same article that she’d be interested in further exploring the relationship since she knows that the relationship was cut short before it could ever blossom.

GoblinWhirlwind
07-28-2011, 07:27 PM
I'm sure Thor will return to Earth on his own power. I guess they could just say there's so much s*** going on in Avengers he couldn't spend any time with Jane and we'll see her again in Thor 2.

Donut
07-28-2011, 07:40 PM
I'm sure Thor will return to Earth on his own power. I guess they could just say there's so much s*** going on in Avengers he couldn't spend any time with Jane and we'll see her again in Thor 2.

I guess it could be part of the ending. They leave Shield & then Tony introduces them to the Mansion & then everyone with a love one goes to see them. Something of a happy type ending for these guys

herolee10
07-28-2011, 10:15 PM
I guess it could be part of the ending. They leave Shield & then Tony introduces them to the Mansion & then everyone with a love one goes to see them. Something of a happy type ending for these guys

Problem is that only Steve would be the only one that wouldn't have a happy ending in that scenario since his gf is likely dead or extremely very old.

04nbod
07-29-2011, 05:27 AM
The thing is though, there’s only so little that they would be able to do with evolving the Thor and Jane relationship in the Avengers since as it stands right now, Natalie Portman is not slated to appear in the film at all. I even read an article of her confirming that she’s not in the film. She did say in that same article that she’d be interested in further exploring the relationship since she knows that the relationship was cut short before it could ever blossom.

That was said at comic-con 2010, it may have changed. If she is there I doubt it will be filmed before pick ups anyway to give her time to lose her baby weight.

Donut
07-29-2011, 06:32 AM
Problem is that only Steve would be the only one that wouldn't have a happy ending in that scenario since his gf is likely dead or extremely very old.

Well that comes with the territory for being frozen :o But I guess they could show some scenes throughout the movie with Steve & that Amanda Righetti chick & they get close by the end of the movie ?

herolee10
07-29-2011, 06:41 AM
That was said at comic-con 2010, it may have changed. If she is there I doubt it will be filmed before pick ups anyway to give her time to lose her baby weight.

The interview that I was talking about had taken place not long after the premiere of Thor I believe. Plus, it won't be cheap to get her to cameo and that would be assuming that MARVEL is interested in spending that much money for her cameo, let alone if Josh Whedon feels that it's necessary to have her in the story; not to mention if Portman was even interested.

Donut
07-29-2011, 10:49 AM
With Thor being new to dating Earth girls someone like Tony could make a joke about Thor getting in trouble with Jane if he does not see her. Agent Coulson could say something to Thor in front of Tony like

Agent Coulson - So now that your back are you going to go see & Jane & let her know what happened ?

Tony - Jane ?

Agent Coulson - His girl

Tony - You get back on Earth & the first thing you do was not let your girl know ?

Thor - Is that a bad thing ?

Tony - Let me tell you something about Earth women. You may be able to defeat the biggest & baddest bad guy of them all but Earth woman are the one thing that can kill you if you piss them off (or something like that)

Thor - Looks at Steve worried

Steve - Hey don't look at me I have been frozen for 70 years

herolee10
07-30-2011, 12:38 AM
Well like I had mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I hope Thor will be the FIRST MCU Franchise that doesn't end up recasting a MAJOR character from its franchise like we've seen done with 'Iron Man' and 'The Hulk'.

Not only does it really take me out of the focus of the continuity from the franchise, but it's harder to root for the same character when you're so used to seeing someone else play that character at first.

Be that as it may, IF there is a recasting done, I really hope that it DOESN'T happen for the roles of Odin, Jane, or Sif (though I'm pretty sure we won't have to worry about Jamie Alexander going anywhere).

Really, the only cat members that I would think that it wouldn't be set in stone to get them back for the sequel would be Anthony Hopkins, Natalie Portman, and Renee Russo since they're all big stars, and didn't the first two mainly join on because of Kenneth's attachment as director to this film? Too bad that Marvel Studios can't just sign on all of the important characters for sequels when making the first film in order to ensure that they'll be able to return for the next installment as well.

Son of Coul
07-30-2011, 10:05 AM
Portman at Comic-Con last year said she was signed on for multiple Thor movies. Hopkins, I don't know about. I feel like if there's one we lose, it'll be him.

Vartha
07-30-2011, 10:16 AM
yeah but that might just be THOR movies not Avengers. I was kind of hoping she'd do Avengers too.

GoblinWhirlwind
07-30-2011, 03:50 PM
I remember reading an interview with Hopkins saying he liked doing Thor, because all he had to do was grow a beard and "stand around and look godly." I really hope he'll come back.

Hurm...
07-30-2011, 04:00 PM
Hopkins elevated every scene he was in to a whole new level. My favorite scenes in the film all feature Odin.

Loki demanding an explanation of his origins from Odin.

and

Odin casting Thor out of Asgard.

Those scenes were incredibly theatric, and felt as if I was in the theater watching a Shakespearean play. Without Anthony, those scenes would not have been nearly as good as they were.

GoblinWhirlwind
07-30-2011, 04:02 PM
Definitely, I love the scene with Loki demanding to know where he came from... but because of Hiddleston. He was fantastic in that scene... that "TELL ME!!!" is just great.

Hurm...
07-30-2011, 05:19 PM
Hiddleston stole every scene he was in, but that doesn't mean Hopkins didn't kick ass as Odin. That's why I want him to return.

herolee10
07-31-2011, 12:51 AM
Portman at Comic-Con last year said she was signed on for multiple Thor movies. Hopkins, I don't know about. I feel like if there's one we lose, it'll be him.

Well that's a relief.

I had worried at first that she may choose not to return, but if she's contracted to return, then that's a done deal.:yay:

Man, if I were Kevin Feige, I would make sure that the casting process for MAJOR characters are selected not only wisely, so that you know that they're a keeper, but that they ensure that they return in order to maintain some sense of continuity.

04nbod
07-31-2011, 11:45 AM
Though director Kenneth Branagh's replacement in the upcoming sequel has yet to be named, sources close to the production have revealed to us that the project is scheduled to begin filming early next year.

Chris Hemsworth will reprise his larger than life role as Marvel Studios' God of Thunder in Thor 2 which is tentatively scheduled for theatrical release on July 28th, 2013. Director Kenneth Branagh -- who garnered much praise for his dedication to the first film -- is not attached to return. Screenwriter Don Payne, who was one of the contributors to the Thor script, has been hired to produce a treatment for the sequel.
We've recently learned that Thor 2 is being geared to begin filming in early January 2012. Also, actors Ray Stevenson, Josh Dallas, Jaimie Alexander, Tadanobu Asano and Idris Elba (who play Volstagg, Fandrall, Sif, Hogun and Heimdall, respectively) will have major parts in the film. Supposedly, Thor 2 will not feature a return to Earth but will instead explore several other of the Nine Realms including Hel.


There's no word yet whether Tom Hiddleston, Anthony Hopkins or Natalie Portman are slated to return as well.

http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/07/31/scoop-thor-2-to-begin-production-in-january-2012-otherworldly-characters-set-to-retu

I don't buy it personally.

Flemm
07-31-2011, 12:21 PM
I think Odin is potentially recastable tbh. Not that I wouldn't want to see Hopkins return, he gave a really strong performance in Thor, but depending on the plot of the Thor sequels, the role might not be all that crucial. However, by the same token, Hopkins does a lot of these types of roles, so he will probably be back.

Natalie Portman as Jane is the crucial one imo. I feel a bit odd saying this, because the character has always been so bland in the comics, but I'd really be disappointed if Portman didn't return and if Jane doesn't play a significant role in the sequel. Making her a scientist on the brink of discovering the existence of the nine worlds was a really good choice and leaves open a lot of really cool options for future stories.

04nbod
07-31-2011, 12:59 PM
You are just not reading the right comics Flemm. Jane is awesome, particularly in the Jurgens run when they actually spent time on her. Lieber's Jane was very good too once you get past all the sexism that was typical of the era. The great Jane story is of course Thor:The Mighty Avenger. It all depends on when Marvel makes an effort with her but it seems like they don't care. When is the last time 616 Jane had a story about her? She and Kelda are the two most interesting female characters in Thor for me.

The reason I don't buy this is because I don't see how they can get from Avengers to no Earth at all.

WildcatNC
07-31-2011, 01:13 PM
You are just not reading the right comics Flemm. Jane is awesome, particularly in the Jurgens run when they actually spent time on her. Lieber's Jane was very good too once you get past all the sexism that was typical of the era. The great Jane story is of course Thor:The Mighty Avenger. It all depends on when Marvel makes an effort with her but it seems like they don't care. When is the last time 616 Jane had a story about her? She and Kelda are the two most interesting female characters in Thor for me.

The reason I don't buy this is because I don't see how they can get from Avengers to no Earth at all.

I'm not sure really, but it has been said that since the Avengers has been successfully set up, the sequels will make far less of an effort to tie in with each other. I think its very possible that Thor II takes place entirely in the other realms. I agree its not likely that there are no earth scenes, but I think its possible.

I didn't see Jane as bland at all and I think the character needs to come back, at least for the second movie.

I wouldn't mind the Sif romance being explored for the third one though.

04nbod
07-31-2011, 02:07 PM
I wouldn't mind Sif being set up as Odin's chosen 'special friend' for Thor in the third one so Thor can choose between love and duty but I've never really understood the appeal of that relationship. In the end, if its the third and last its not going to end well for Sif. Thor 2 is definitely not the place for it though. That should be about firming up Thor and Jane.

They need to stop relying on Darcy for laughs and bring in Jane's sarcastic sense of humour. That's another thing this article forgot, Kat Dennings.

Flemm
07-31-2011, 03:25 PM
Agreed on Jane in Thor: The Mighty Avenger. That's really recent, though. Her portrayal in the Jurgens run didn't stick in my mind, but perhaps it's better than I remember. Anyway, movie Jane was really cool and should be a big part of the sequel. I also liked Darcy a lot.

As for Thor and Sif, there's not much drama to be had in that relationship. Sif's too much of a "perfect match" for Thor. She's the girl his parents want him to marry, so naturally he's not interested. It does work as a sort of foil for Thor-Jane, though, for that reason. The relationship that really works for Sif is BRB, but I doubt we'll be seeing Bill in the movieverse, at least not right away.

herolee10
07-31-2011, 07:06 PM
http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/07/31/scoop-thor-2-to-begin-production-in-january-2012-otherworldly-characters-set-to-retu

I don't buy it personally.

So does that mean that NP is not coming back to play Jane?

Unless Thor reunites with Jane in the Avengers, then how are they going to address that issue if the second film doesn't feature Thor being on Earth? Wth?

Gamma Burst
07-31-2011, 07:26 PM
I hope the second movie doesn't feature midgard at all. I've seen enough of it, and the other 8 realms are much more interesting.;)

herolee10
07-31-2011, 07:33 PM
I have no problem if Earth is featured less in the sequel; it's just that the first film established Jane Foster being somewhat of a important person in the MCU Version of Thor's life, and given the first film ended with him wanting to see her again, assuming that doesn't happen in the Avengers (which it most likely won't happen in there), then how are they to see each other again if Thor is never back on Earth in the sequel? Given the emphasis that they put on the relationship, it would be stupid to say that it happened off screen.

Man, I hope they're not trying to ignore the importance of the events of the first film.

BigThor
07-31-2011, 09:15 PM
I do hope Thor 2 features more exploration of the other realms than Asgard, I mean Jane is important but is she's not more important than seeing the other realms on the big screen imo.

misjuevos
08-01-2011, 01:45 AM
shouldn't be that hard to avoid earth in thor 2. thor is asgard's champion so he will protect it, just have a threat that he needs to stop. he will still want to get back to jane but will be preoccupied with a new threat to asgard or another realm that if not stopped will eventually make its way to asgard. he may even start to have feelings for sif or see she has feelings for him.

im hoping to see some dwarves making some epic weapons or armor. or even see how mjolnir was made. it's not really needed, but i would like to see a scene of mjolnir created.

herolee10
08-01-2011, 02:03 AM
Unless the Avengers ends with Thor being called immediately back to Asgard for some type of trouble going on, I don't see what else could keep Thor from seeing Jane again.

04nbod
08-01-2011, 03:36 AM
Agreed on Jane in Thor: The Mighty Avenger. That's really recent, though. Her portrayal in the Jurgens run didn't stick in my mind, but perhaps it's better than I remember. Anyway, movie Jane was really cool and should be a big part of the sequel. I also liked Darcy a lot.

As for Thor and Sif, there's not much drama to be had in that relationship. Sif's too much of a "perfect match" for Thor. She's the girl his parents want him to marry, so naturally he's not interested. It does work as a sort of foil for Thor-Jane, though, for that reason. The relationship that really works for Sif is BRB, but I doubt we'll be seeing Bill in the movieverse, at least not right away.

Pretty much my feelings. I like Sif, I wish they would develop her properly but they always bring it back around to him and it makes her look needy, weak and desperate.

There are three things I like about Thor/Jane:

-It brings out the tension between Thor and Odin
-It brings out how far Thor has come in his humility that he considers a 'weak' mortal his equal
-There is nothing more epic than defying destiny and making your own

Jurgen's Jane was great. She was smart and wasn't pushed around. He loved playing with the tension between Thor and Jane and would often have them talk about their relationship without talking about it. (Much like Lieber wouldn't have them admit their feelings for ages) Her relationship with Keith was shown to be dead from the outset but like a stinking corpse over anything that happen with Thor and Jane. JMS' relaunch took a lot of what was inferred in Jurgens' run and made it happen like the divorce and the admission of 'things left unsaid for too long'.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vdqxzp.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/esq3oy.jpg

We should probably take this to the comics forum :cwink:

I do hope Thor 2 features more exploration of the other realms than Asgard, I mean Jane is important but is she's not more important than seeing the other realms on the big screen imo.

She should be a part of it though. If he's going to Hel it should be for her soul right? Isn't that the easiest way of doing it. Ignoring Earth entirely is stupid.

herolee10
08-01-2011, 05:23 AM
If they don't give a ON SCREEN resolution to the cliffhanger between Thor and Jane at the end of the first film, then that's like saying that all of that attention and focus/emphasis meant little to them at all and that they want to forget about it like they are with the Ed Norton thing.

Why contract Portman for sequels if she's not going to be written in them?

I really hope that someone or something clears this up soon, since Thor bringing Jane to Asgard was a storyline in the comics and could easily be adapted as well.

ddddeeee
08-01-2011, 09:15 AM
The chances of no Earth are pretty close to zero. In fact chances of less than 30% earth are pretty tiny IMO.

Flemm
08-01-2011, 11:25 AM
I really hope that someone or something clears this up soon, since Thor bringing Jane to Asgard was a storyline in the comics and could easily be adapted as well.

To the extent that there is less earth in the second film, then I think this will be the reason. Jane going to Asgard makes a lot of sense. As a scientist, she would want to go there and perhaps visit other realms as well. As Thor's girlfriend, there would a sort of "meet the parents" element, which could be a lot of fun. Also, it would reverse the "fish out of water" dynamic of the first movie.

Darcy would probably come along, so you would get a lot of humor out of their visit to the realm of the gods, while at the same time allowing us to get the know Asgardian culture better. In a sense, you could really almost make Jane the protagonist of the second movie, where it's about her journey to Asgard as much as it is about Thor dealing with whatever he's dealing with.

J.Howlett
08-01-2011, 11:31 AM
Having no Jane in Thor 2 could work IF Thor 2 is really successful and she comes back in a big way in Thor 3. I personally like the idea of exploring the other nine realms. But, either in the Avengers films or Thor 3, we have to have some type of resolution between Jane and Thor...because the way it's left is too good to not come back to their story at some point.

daderade
08-01-2011, 03:19 PM
it would be awesome if Loki or Enchantress unleash the world serpent on earth(cuz of jane) and Thor pulls it off the earth(unwraps it actually) and takes it into space.

DACrowe
08-01-2011, 05:28 PM
So is Natalie Portman coming back? She's won an Oscar (and has a child), so this being fast-tracked may make that difficult given her newer bargaining abilities and priorities, but i'd be a shame after all that build up to write the character out of the movie.

TheCorpulent1
08-01-2011, 06:13 PM
Thor's got a built-in solution to that: Sif. She's the one he's supposed to wind up with anyway. :oldrazz:

BigThor
08-01-2011, 06:21 PM
it would be awesome if Loki or Enchantress unleash the world serpent on earth(cuz of jane) and Thor pulls it off the earth(unwraps it actually) and takes it into space.

I agree, this would be very awesome indeed. :woot:

Thor's got a built-in solution to that: Sif. She's the one he's supposed to wind up with anyway. :oldrazz:

This :up:

herolee10
08-01-2011, 07:25 PM
To the extent that there is less earth in the second film, then I think this will be the reason. Jane going to Asgard makes a lot of sense. As a scientist, she would want to go there and perhaps visit other realms as well. As Thor's girlfriend, there would a sort of "meet the parents" element, which could be a lot of fun. Also, it would reverse the "fish out of water" dynamic of the first movie.

Darcy would probably come along, so you would get a lot of humor out of their visit to the realm of the gods, while at the same time allowing us to get the know Asgardian culture better. In a sense, you could really almost make Jane the protagonist of the second movie, where it's about her journey to Asgard as much as it is about Thor dealing with whatever he's dealing with.

Agreed; Jane could be the fish out of water this time around and it could really provide some interesting possibilities for her character.

Regardless of who Thor eventually ends up with, I think it's necessary that they conclude the cliffhanger of Thor 1 in Thor 2, otherwise it'll feel like that the whole build up between them in the first film was just a waste of time, and it'll also make Thor look bad if during his entire time that he had the opportunity to go back and see her, that he never did.

Jane HAS to be in this film to some extent. I don't want the producers to do to Jane what the Salkinds did to Lois in Superman III.

Vartha
08-02-2011, 10:08 AM
thor's got a built-in solution to that: Sif. She's the one he's supposed to wind up with anyway. :oldrazz:
indeed!

GoblinWhirlwind
08-02-2011, 06:55 PM
Since the Funny Pics thread is gone, I'll post these here.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/Goblin_Whirlwind/tumblr_llyvdchuuS1qdkzd8o1_500.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/Goblin_Whirlwind/tumblr_lmagbyTHHG1qdkzd8o1_500.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/Goblin_Whirlwind/tumblr_lmtgm36BCP1qdkzd8o1_500.jpg

herolee10
08-02-2011, 10:39 PM
Does anyone know when this film is slated to start production next year?

I hope we'll get a confirmed cast list for those who are returning from the first film by the end of the year at least.

steintym
08-03-2011, 02:39 PM
I'd like for Portman to be back, even if it is for a small portion at the beginning of the film. I'd just like there to be closure with the ending of the first film. Not a huge deal with me, though.

herolee10
08-03-2011, 10:20 PM
I'd like for Portman to be back, even if it is for a small portion at the beginning of the film. I'd just like there to be closure with the ending of the first film. Not a huge deal with me, though.

Same thing for me; I just want closure for her character, pure and simple. I'm not going to try and root against comic mythology when it comes to who Thor ends up with, I just want to know that what I saw developed in the first film is concluded properly.


Speaking of which, I'm just curious:


Does anyone else here, think that Natalie Portman will be back in the sequel to some capacity?

Alexei Belyakov
08-04-2011, 03:27 AM
So is Natalie Portman coming back? She's won an Oscar (and has a child), so this being fast-tracked may make that difficult given her newer bargaining abilities and priorities, but i'd be a shame after all that build up to write the character out of the movie. Portman needs to be in the film. Not as a supporting character but again as a leading lady. To lose Portman is to pretty much nullify the heart of the first film. Yeah, Portman's gonna cost more, but hopefully Feige won't get cheap on us again and the studio will pay her fee. As long as the script is solid, she'll play Jane again.

herolee10
08-04-2011, 04:05 AM
Portman needs to be in the film. Not as a supporting character but again as a leading lady. To lose Portman is to pretty much nullify the heart of the first film. Yeah, Portman's gonna cost more, but hopefully Feige won't get cheap on us again and the studio will pay her fee. As long as the script is solid, she'll play Jane again.

Agreed; though as someone mentioned above, she's supposedly contracted for more sequels, so hopefully, it won't be the case like it was with the casting of Bruce Banner and Rhodey for the MCU films.

Spideyfan93
08-04-2011, 09:45 PM
Curious as to what is going to happen story wise for the sequel.

Alexei Belyakov
08-05-2011, 03:15 AM
I really hope they sign Brian Kirk. Game of Thrones is the best thing that's happened to cable TV since that which introduced my signature. Every episode of Season 1 was rock solid. Can't wait for Season 2, even if Sean Bean and Mark Addy are gone. I'm really hoping that without the need to set-up another crossover film, THOR II can really get nuts and fully immerse itself in the lore of the comics. I want something much more ambitious than Branagh's film, less light and above all - less safe.

BigThor
08-05-2011, 03:18 AM
Well Thor was the first film of an unfamiliar superhero, I'm sure they're gonna take more risk with the sequel since the first was a success.

Gamma Burst
08-05-2011, 03:33 AM
I really hope they sign Brian Kirk. Game of Thrones is the best thing that's happened to cable TV since that which introduced my signature. Every episode of Season 1 was rock solid. Can't wait for Season 2, even if Sean Bean and Mark Addy are gone. I'm really hoping that without the need to set-up another crossover film, THOR II can really get nuts and fully immerse itself in the lore of the comics. I want something much more ambitious than Branagh's film, less light and above all - less safe.

I couldn't agree more, mate. :up:

misjuevos
08-05-2011, 08:36 AM
it is interesting marvel's choices for directors. they went for cheaper people when it was just them, now they have disney money and still go for cheap directors. i do think it's cool they are not trying to get the big names and actually looking for people who are used to filming the type of style the movie requires. it is really cool to see them try to give lesser known directors a chance.

Vartha
08-10-2011, 01:56 PM
check THIS out Thor fruit snack with Cap!
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/759/kelloggsfruitsnacks01sm.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/kelloggsfruitsnacks01sm.jpg/)
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GoblinWhirlwind
08-10-2011, 07:42 PM
I just realized both Hawkeye AND Heimdall are in 28 Weeks Later. :D

antonydelfini
08-10-2011, 07:58 PM
Yep. Thor 2 should feel more epic, less safe, more ambitious, more complex, more dangerous. Don Payne, don't fail Thor!

BigThor
08-11-2011, 01:29 AM
Yep. Thor 2 should feel more epic, less safe, more ambitious, more complex, more dangerous. Don Payne, don't fail Thor!

You can't forget "more action packed" :woot:.

Vartha
08-15-2011, 10:04 AM
You can't forget "more action packed" :woot:.
Well I would in some ways love more Bragging. :D

BigThor
08-16-2011, 02:26 AM
Well I would in some ways love more Bragging. :D

From who? Thor?

04nbod
08-16-2011, 03:09 AM
Thor's got a built-in solution to that: Sif. She's the one he's supposed to wind up with anyway. :oldrazz:

Get out Corp! :cmad:

Leave poor Sif alone. Thor should be raging against 'destiny' and what other people say he should do.

http://i56.tinypic.com/kewxut.png

In conclusion...

http://i54.tinypic.com/x1gkya.png

Vartha
08-16-2011, 10:19 AM
From who? Thor?
of corse! lol Volstagg too if the Warriors III are in Thor 2.

Vartha
08-16-2011, 10:22 AM
Get out Corp! :cmad:

Leave poor Sif alone. Thor should be raging against 'destiny' and what other people say he should do.

http://i56.tinypic.com/kewxut.png

In conclusion...

http://i54.tinypic.com/x1gkya.png
Be thankful Thor's not like his half brother or Odin....tho fertility gods do need to be fertile....why not have both women? ;)

GoblinWhirlwind
08-16-2011, 06:36 PM
Yeah, the Warriors III better be back. With them talking about their own movie a few months ago, I don't see why they wouldn't.

steintym
08-16-2011, 09:41 PM
Be thankful Thor's not like his half brother or Odin....tho fertility gods do need to be fertile....why not have both women? ;)

:awesome:

BigThor
08-17-2011, 01:22 AM
of corse! lol Volstagg too if the Warriors III are in Thor 2.

Awww yeah, I agree with you on all points. :up:

04nbod
08-17-2011, 03:16 AM
Be thankful Thor's not like his half brother or Odin....tho fertility gods do need to be fertile....why not have both women? ;)

He IS a viking but I doubt Janie will be up for that. Sif needs to go back to Beta Ray Bill :D

Also, we need a petition for a Warriors Three spin off :hrt:

Vartha
08-17-2011, 10:08 AM
He IS a viking but I doubt Janie will be up for that. Sif needs to go back to Beta Ray Bill :D

Also, we need a petition for a Warriors Three spin off :hrt:
SIF is as bad as Thor tho. lol She had a son from another guy before marrying Thor in the myth. lol must be a god thing.

04nbod
08-17-2011, 02:03 PM
SIF is as bad as Thor tho. lol She had a son from another guy before marrying Thor in the myth. lol must be a god thing.

The myths mean very little to Marvel Thor though. Sif is nothing like her mythic counterpart, neither is Balder, or Thor. Half of Marvel's Asgardians don't actually exist in myth. What I found most interesting about Sif is how Stan completely removed her connection to Earth which is the biggest reason I don't like her with Thor beyond the fact their personalities are too similar to compliment and she gets all pathetic with him.

Its like the reasons Sif is with Thor in the myth (son of the Earth, champion of mortals married to the goddess of the fruits of the Earth) are the reasons I want Thor with Jane because Jane is the one that represents Earth and mortality in Marvel's Thor. And Jane has a kid by someone else so...

misjuevos
08-22-2011, 03:50 AM
after watching thor again i noticed how much cosmic stuff it really had. we had planets, space backdrops, wormhole travel. the scenes of heimdal staring into space to see midgard you could see a vast universe. not to mention the credits. i think the next step is to see thor fly in space or fight in space.

BigThor
08-22-2011, 05:43 AM
after watching thor again i noticed how much cosmic stuff it really had. we had planets, space backdrops, wormhole travel. the scenes of heimdal staring into space to see midgard you could see a vast universe. not to mention the credits.

I've noticed how cosmic heavy Thor was too, it puts a smile on my face. :woot:

i think the next step is to see thor fly in space or fight in space.

Most definately :up:

Vartha
08-22-2011, 12:26 PM
after watching thor again i noticed how much cosmic stuff it really had. we had planets, space backdrops, wormhole travel. the scenes of heimdal staring into space to see midgard you could see a vast universe. not to mention the credits. i think the next step is to see thor fly in space or fight in space.
I like how they show the World tree at the end during the credits. If you don't look at it right you miss the tree completely.

Shadowlord X
08-22-2011, 03:36 PM
I missed that. Where is Yggdrasil in the credits?

Godzilla2000
08-22-2011, 03:39 PM
I missed that. Where is Yggdrasil in the credits?

Well, we have just a few more weeks until the release of the movie on DVD/Blu Ray. Perhaps someone will be able to procure a clear image of it?

Godzilla2000
08-22-2011, 04:18 PM
Well, this is more like making a suggestion as opposed to all out speculation, but I love to listen to a Dutch Symphonic Metal group called Within Temptation. They would be an excellent band to sign for the soundtrack as some of their music really fits the thematic atmosphere of the Thor universe. For example, this song from their Mother Earth album kind of makes me think of Loki in a way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJRVmZd9WLU

So Marvel/Disney...
http://forums.themustangsource.com/attachments/f726/89965d1309555038-somebody-needs-make-happen-picard.jpg

WarBlade
08-22-2011, 07:05 PM
For example, this song from their Mother Earth album kind of makes me think of Loki in a way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJRVmZd9WLU

Sounds a bit tinkly to me. Progenies of the Great Apocalypse (from Dimmu Borgir) would be an awesome song to serenade in a villain though. :woot:

Vartha
08-23-2011, 09:37 AM
Sounds a bit tinkly to me. Progenies of the Great Apocalypse (from Dimmu Borgir) would be an awesome song to serenade in a villain though. :woot:
.....tinkly?.....lol
To me it sounds like Lorena Mckinnet on steriods.

Vartha
08-23-2011, 09:40 AM
I missed that. Where is Yggdrasil in the credits?
look at the cosmic cloud that the camera follows. THAT is Yggdrasil. :D
It's like a cosmic Tree.

WildcatNC
08-23-2011, 10:26 AM
A good way to involve Jane even if they go the 9 realms route would be to have her used as leverage against Thor by a powerful enemy.

You could still have a galaxy spanning epic across the nine realms but would still tie in all into Jane and Earth by the end.

Sure it would be a "damsel in distress" device but Marvel hasn't done that all that much really.

Godzilla2000
08-23-2011, 12:38 PM
Sounds a bit tinkly to me. Progenies of the Great Apocalypse (from Dimmu Borgir) would be an awesome song to serenade in a villain though. :woot:

It's called symphonic metal. It's more a fusion of classical music with metal. Death Metal is just...ugh! I'm not a fan of it at all. Females like me hate being yelled at by some guy who gargled razor blades for the duration of a song. As a soprano I can't also sing to that sort of music without damaging my vocal chords as I love singing to more feminine sounding metal vocals. Within Temptation is much more epic than whatever band you're talking about. I was thinking more along the lines of being an End Credits song to chill yourself out after such an intense action movie.

Vartha
08-23-2011, 06:44 PM
A good way to involve Jane even if they go the 9 realms route would be to have her used as leverage against Thor by a powerful enemy.

You could still have a galaxy spanning epic across the nine realms but would still tie in all into Jane and Earth by the end.

Sure it would be a "damsel in distress" device but Marvel hasn't done that all that much really.
makes ME wonder if Loki will kidnap Jane in Avengers?
I mean in the one interview with Tom at D23 we KNOW Loki wants to take over Earth and to keep Thor at bay maybe he kidnaps Jane or says he does something to her and that's why we don't see her in the film?

WarBlade
08-23-2011, 08:55 PM
It's called symphonic metal. It's more a fusion of classical music with metal. Death Metal is just...ugh!

Yeah, I know what it's called. You've also misidentified Dimmu Borgir as "death metal" BTW, when that group is generally regarded as "symphonic black metal" (kind of a middle ground between symphonic metal and nordic black metal.

You got me thinking about nordic black metal with the words "Mother North" which is the title of an old track by Satyricon.

Edit: You said "Mother Earth". I misread on the first pass.

I'm not a fan of it at all. Females like me hate being yelled at by some guy who gargled razor blades for the duration of a song.
There's always being gargled at by a woman! Arch Enemy has a female growler on the mic. :woot:

As a soprano I can't also sing to that sort of music without damaging my vocal chords as I love singing to more feminine sounding metal vocals.

Ahh... Nightwish, Kamelot, Epica, maybe even Hammerfall... Yeah, I know the stuff. Don't listen to it much though.

Within Temptation is much more epic than whatever band you're talking about.

Well that's a difference of opinion, right there. I found your choice to be a bit on the weak side for my blood. :woot:

WildcatNC
08-24-2011, 12:33 AM
makes ME wonder if Loki will kidnap Jane in Avengers?
I mean in the one interview with Tom at D23 we KNOW Loki wants to take over Earth and to keep Thor at bay maybe he kidnaps Jane or says he does something to her and that's why we don't see her in the film?

I doubt that but i'm sure its a possibility for Thor 2.



I hope we don't get any of that Cookie Monster metal for any movie. The rifts are cool many times but damn, find someone that can sing. At least a little.


COOOOOKIEEEEEEEE, ME WANT COOOKIEEEE!! NOM NOM NOM !


:wall:

BigThor
08-24-2011, 06:47 AM
A good way to involve Jane even if they go the 9 realms route would be to have her used as leverage against Thor by a powerful enemy.

You could still have a galaxy spanning epic across the nine realms but would still tie in all into Jane and Earth by the end.

Sure it would be a "damsel in distress" device but Marvel hasn't done that all that much really.

This would be a good way to involve Jane and the exploration of the other realms, but I'm not a big fan of a "damsel in distress" being the premise of Thor 2.

Godzilla2000
08-24-2011, 08:03 AM
Well that's a difference of opinion, right there. I found your choice to be a bit on the weak side for my blood. :woot:

Well, just ask any concert goer about how "weak" this song is when they perform it live. :whatever:

This would be a good way to involve Jane and the exploration of the other realms, but I'm not a big fan of a "damsel in distress" being the premise of Thor 2.

lol...I just thought of a funny idea in my head. I think I might pursue it too. I have this idea that my story starts out looking like a damsel in distress scenario, but it turns out the Damsel is not the one who's distressed. :cwink:

Godzilla2000
08-24-2011, 08:11 AM
I hope we don't get any of that Cookie Monster metal for any movie. The rifts are cool many times but damn, find someone that can sing. At least a little.


COOOOOKIEEEEEEEE, ME WANT COOOKIEEEE!! NOM NOM NOM !


:wall:

I'm pretty sure they'd choose metal artists the majority of the audience who are mostly going to be children, parents and lovestruck Chris Hemsworth/Tom Hiddleston female fangirls, like me, can actually stand listening to.

Here's a lesser known Within Temptation song that's an extra on a single that I like very much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC8GIrfOrOg

Vartha
08-24-2011, 10:24 AM
MAN peeps, We Thor fans are going to be SPOILED for THREE years straight!!!!


I STILL can't get over it. :D

Shadowlord X
08-24-2011, 11:29 AM
look at the cosmic cloud that the camera follows. THAT is Yggdrasil. :D
It's like a cosmic Tree.

Cool. Thanx. Will keep an eye on on the Blu-ray.

Shadowlord X
08-24-2011, 12:04 PM
MAN peeps, We Thor fans are going to be SPOILED for THREE years straight!!!!


I STILL can't get over it. :D

I know exactly what you mean!!!

I have to say my preferred storyline for THOR 2 involves THOR spending time on Earth because of Jane and his feeling guilty of Loki's actions there. The latter makes him want to be a hero on Earth and adopt a role opposite to Loki's in THE AVENGERS. From this strife builds between him and ODIN both because of avoiding percieved responsibilities on Asgard as well as disapproval of his relationship with a Midgardian mortal woman.

Building upon this ODIN could try to get the ENCHANTRESS to lure THOR, unaware of her ulterior motives.

It needs more development of course but this storyline foundation is what I would like to see.

WildcatNC
08-25-2011, 12:48 AM
This would be a good way to involve Jane and the exploration of the other realms, but I'm not a big fan of a "damsel in distress" being the premise of Thor 2.

Cant say I love the idea either honestly. Just seems like something they might do to solve the "if its all in Asgard and the 9 realms then how do we make Jane and Earth a part of the story" problem.

I would personally rather see an epic, galaxy spanning movie set entirely in the 9 realms with an expanded cast of Asgardians. Baldur and Enchantress specifically.

Ash Talon
08-27-2011, 01:40 PM
The difficulty with Thor films is having to balance earth and Asgard. I feel you need both locations. However, you have to balance them storywise. And give a reason for both being there. While I think the Jane romance was integral to the first Thor movie and helped make Thor approachable as a character, I don't want to see her shoehorned into each movie. And I don't want them to fall into the trap the Spider-Man movies had, where the love interest is always in danger. But you might need Jane and earth to make Thor relatable for the general audience.

If Jane is in Thor 2 (I hope they start being more creative with Marvel sequel titles), should she only be in it for a few minutes (start of film)? Is she involved with the plot? With a bunch of godly beings hanging out, can she contribute much?

Here's my idea for Thor 2. I'm not sure I want to see her dragged along on a quest. Maybe she visits Asgard. Thor is called off on a quest to another realm, but Jane is left in Asgard as a guest of Odin and Freda and Executioner volunteers to guard her from harm. Sif keeps and eye on Jane as well, and they could have some interesting discussions about Thor. It would be nice to see what Sif thinks of Thor. Maybe Jane talking about him stirs up feelings in Sif for Thor.

Thor is joined on his quest by the Warriors Three and Enchantress (she has some intimate knowledge of the situation they're investigating) who seduces Thor by stressing how impossible it'll be for he and Jane to have a real relationship. They're slowly led into a trap by Enchantress and the forces (dark elves?) under her command.

Meanwhile, Jane investigates whatever it is that Thor was sent on a quest for. She realizes the quest is a trap for Thor. Executioner tries to kill Jane, since he's in cahoots with Enchantress. Sif has to save Jane but Executioner is too powerful. He ends up killing Jane.

Thor defeats the trap Enchantress set for him. He returns to Asgard to find that Jane has been killed. Leads to big fight with Executioner and Enchantress. After defeating them, Jane's soul is claimed by Hela. End the film with Thor vowing to rescue her from the realm of the dead.

The 3rd movie could deal with Thor rescuing Jane from Hela. Valkryie(s) could be brought in for that film.

Vartha
08-27-2011, 01:47 PM
Cool. Thanx. Will keep an eye on on the Blu-ray.
The camera actually backs away and you see ALL of the world tree, but it follows up the trunk of the tree up into the branches where Asgard is then pulls out.

WildcatNC
08-27-2011, 02:01 PM
The camera actually backs away and you see ALL of the world tree, but it follows up the truck of the tree up into the branches where Asgard is then pulls out.



Thinking about the movie, I really wish there was a feature where you could watch the full movie with all the deleted scenes added back in where they were intended to be with all movies.

Hopefully we will get a full Avengers set with directors cuts eventually.

Vartha
08-27-2011, 02:11 PM
Thinking about the movie, I really wish there was a feature where you could watch the full movie with all the deleted scenes added back in where they were intended to be with all movies.

Hopefully we will get a full Avengers set with directors cuts eventually.
Well there ARE a couple. I had to down load one for my laptop Because it's used with a DVD player. BUT I got it and I had to download a seperate player because media player wouldn't play the dvds!

I'll get the name and post it later, but the program allows you to edit the chapter list. IF there's a digital copy, I THINK you can copy the movie then Add the missing chapters onto the play list.

Vartha
08-27-2011, 02:14 PM
OH OH OH, I got the Thor DVD poster from the Comic shop FREE and got the Thor Game for the Xbox 360 for TWENTY bucks NEW at Walmart! go grab the game if you don't already have it guys!

WildcatNC
08-27-2011, 02:23 PM
Well there ARE a couple. I had to down load one for my laptop Because it's used with a DVD player. BUT I got it and I had to download a seperate player because media player wouldn't play the dvds!

I'll get the name and post it later, but the program allows you to edit the chapter list. IF there's a digital copy, I THINK you can copy the movie then Add the missing chapters onto the play list.

Sweet. I need to do that for all the Avengers movies and then watch them in order before The Avengers comes out.

Gamma Burst
08-27-2011, 06:51 PM
OH OH OH, I got the Thor DVD poster from the Comic shop FREE and got the Thor Game for the Xbox 360 for TWENTY bucks NEW at Walmart! go grab the game if you don't already have it guys!

The DVD I purchased here in Brasil comes with a free poster.:woot:

MahvelBaby!
08-27-2011, 09:00 PM
The difficulty with Thor films is having to balance earth and Asgard. I feel you need both locations. However, you have to balance them storywise. And give a reason for both being there. While I think the Jane romance was integral to the first Thor movie and helped make Thor approachable as a character, I don't want to see her shoehorned into each movie. And I don't want them to fall into the trap the Spider-Man movies had, where the love interest is always in danger. But you might need Jane and earth to make Thor relatable for the general audience.

If Jane is in Thor 2 (I hope they start being more creative with Marvel sequel titles), should she only be in it for a few minutes (start of film)? Is she involved with the plot? With a bunch of godly beings hanging out, can she contribute much?

Here's my idea for Thor 2. I'm not sure I want to see her dragged along on a quest. Maybe she visits Asgard. Thor is called off on a quest to another realm, but Jane is left in Asgard as a guest of Odin and Freda and Executioner volunteers to guard her from harm. Sif keeps and eye on Jane as well, and they could have some interesting discussions about Thor. It would be nice to see what Sif thinks of Thor. Maybe Jane talking about him stirs up feelings in Sif for Thor.

Thor is joined on his quest by the Warriors Three and Enchantress (she has some intimate knowledge of the situation they're investigating) who seduces Thor by stressing how impossible it'll be for he and Jane to have a real relationship. They're slowly led into a trap by Enchantress and the forces (dark elves?) under her command.

Meanwhile, Jane investigates whatever it is that Thor was sent on a quest for. She realizes the quest is a trap for Thor. Executioner tries to kill Jane, since he's in cahoots with Enchantress. Sif has to save Jane but Executioner is too powerful. He ends up killing Jane.

Thor defeats the trap Enchantress set for him. He returns to Asgard to find that Jane has been killed. Leads to big fight with Executioner and Enchantress. After defeating them, Jane's soul is claimed by Hela. End the film with Thor vowing to rescue her from the realm of the dead.

The 3rd movie could deal with Thor rescuing Jane from Hela. Valkryie(s) could be brought in for that film.

And then ofcourse as ussually is the case.....all part of Loki's plan :awesome:

BigThor
08-28-2011, 05:49 AM
Here's my idea for Thor 2. I'm not sure I want to see her dragged along on a quest. Maybe she visits Asgard. Thor is called off on a quest to another realm, but Jane is left in Asgard as a guest of Odin and Freda and Executioner volunteers to guard her from harm. Sif keeps and eye on Jane as well, and they could have some interesting discussions about Thor. It would be nice to see what Sif thinks of Thor. Maybe Jane talking about him stirs up feelings in Sif for Thor.

Thor is joined on his quest by the Warriors Three and Enchantress (she has some intimate knowledge of the situation they're investigating) who seduces Thor by stressing how impossible it'll be for he and Jane to have a real relationship. They're slowly led into a trap by Enchantress and the forces (dark elves?) under her command.

Meanwhile, Jane investigates whatever it is that Thor was sent on a quest for. She realizes the quest is a trap for Thor. Executioner tries to kill Jane, since he's in cahoots with Enchantress. Sif has to save Jane but Executioner is too powerful. He ends up killing Jane.

Thor defeats the trap Enchantress set for him. He returns to Asgard to find that Jane has been killed. Leads to big fight with Executioner and Enchantress. After defeating them, Jane's soul is claimed by Hela. End the film with Thor vowing to rescue her from the realm of the dead.

The 3rd movie could deal with Thor rescuing Jane from Hela. Valkryie(s) could be brought in for that film.

This is a very good idea for Thor 2, the only thing this needs is a "main villain" that's in cahoots with Amora and Skurge (Malekith or Kurse)

04nbod
08-28-2011, 08:54 AM
The difficulty with Thor films is having to balance earth and Asgard. I feel you need both locations. However, you have to balance them storywise. And give a reason for both being there. While I think the Jane romance was integral to the first Thor movie and helped make Thor approachable as a character, I don't want to see her shoehorned into each movie. And I don't want them to fall into the trap the Spider-Man movies had, where the love interest is always in danger. But you might need Jane and earth to make Thor relatable for the general audience.

If Jane is in Thor 2 (I hope they start being more creative with Marvel sequel titles), should she only be in it for a few minutes (start of film)? Is she involved with the plot? With a bunch of godly beings hanging out, can she contribute much?

Here's my idea for Thor 2. I'm not sure I want to see her dragged along on a quest. Maybe she visits Asgard. Thor is called off on a quest to another realm, but Jane is left in Asgard as a guest of Odin and Freda and Executioner volunteers to guard her from harm. Sif keeps and eye on Jane as well, and they could have some interesting discussions about Thor. It would be nice to see what Sif thinks of Thor. Maybe Jane talking about him stirs up feelings in Sif for Thor.

Thor is joined on his quest by the Warriors Three and Enchantress (she has some intimate knowledge of the situation they're investigating) who seduces Thor by stressing how impossible it'll be for he and Jane to have a real relationship. They're slowly led into a trap by Enchantress and the forces (dark elves?) under her command.

Meanwhile, Jane investigates whatever it is that Thor was sent on a quest for. She realizes the quest is a trap for Thor. Executioner tries to kill Jane, since he's in cahoots with Enchantress. Sif has to save Jane but Executioner is too powerful. He ends up killing Jane.

Thor defeats the trap Enchantress set for him. He returns to Asgard to find that Jane has been killed. Leads to big fight with Executioner and Enchantress. After defeating them, Jane's soul is claimed by Hela. End the film with Thor vowing to rescue her from the realm of the dead.

The 3rd movie could deal with Thor rescuing Jane from Hela. Valkryie(s) could be brought in for that film.

Not feeling it. I think everyone is running ahead of themselves. Thor and Jane have to build a relationship first and that is what the second should be about otherwise the drama is going to seem unearned. Enchantress as a villain could allow the movie to explore that without it being overwhelming. She should have her eye on the throne of Asgard and she should see Thor as a tool to power and nothing more. Also, your storyline for Jane and Sif is extremely sexist. All they do is sit around and talk about guys before one of them is brutally killed. That won't fly.

I still stand by Jane vs Amora in a battle of wits, Science vs Magic. Thor vs Skurge and the Warriors Three/Sif vs some magical menace Enchantress cooks up. Save any sort of Thor/Sif for the third, if they do it at all. That romantic drama could really bring the whole thing down. People are already moaning about any romance at all. End the second one with Odin refusing Thor permission to make Jane immortal (don't go the marriage route, its too much) and set the third one on a quest for Jane's godhood. Bring in Jord or something to show Thor's Earthly heritage as well as his Asgardian one. End it happily, Thor becomes King.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo0pzxPwp71qm2016o1_500.jpg
What If? #25 (because its a lot better than what actually went down)

Do Thor/Sif in a prequel movie.

WildcatNC
08-28-2011, 01:15 PM
Not feeling it. I think everyone is running ahead of themselves. Thor and Jane have to build a relationship first and that is what the second should be about otherwise the drama is going to seem unearned. Enchantress as a villain could allow the movie to explore that without it being overwhelming. She should have her eye on the throne of Asgard and she should see Thor as a tool to power and nothing more. Also, your storyline for Jane and Sif is extremely sexist. All they do is sit around and talk about guys before one of them is brutally killed. That won't fly.

I still stand by Jane vs Amora in a battle of wits, Science vs Magic. Thor vs Skurge and the Warriors Three/Sif vs some magical menace Enchantress cooks up. Save any sort of Thor/Sif for the third, if they do it at all. That romantic drama could really bring the whole thing down. People are already moaning about any romance at all. End the second one with Odin refusing Thor permission to make Jane immortal (don't go the marriage route, its too much) and set the third one on a quest for Jane's godhood. Bring in Jord or something to show Thor's Earthly heritage as well as his Asgardian one. End it happily, Thor becomes King.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo0pzxPwp71qm2016o1_500.jpg
What If? #25 (because its a lot better than what actually went down)

Do Thor/Sif in a prequel movie.



I agree with you about developing Jane/Thor more in the second movie and saving the Sif romantic storyline for the third one (which i'd like to see at least brought out, even if it doesn't come to fruition).

For that to happen Jane would either have to be brought to Asgard, or the movie would need to be more heavily based in Midgard than the writers have suggested it will be.

It may be a good idea to set the second one heavily in Midgard. I just hope that at least one of the next two movies is a vast epic across many of the nine realms.

Vartha
08-28-2011, 02:42 PM
Sweet. I need to do that for all the Avengers movies and then watch them in order before The Avengers comes out.
CRUD I forgot to grab the program name!!! I'll check here now, I know there's only intitals on the icon on my laptop.

Edit: nope, can't find the exact one. I'll bring it tomorrow WC....check you pms

04nbod
08-28-2011, 02:43 PM
I agree with you about developing Jane/Thor more in the second movie and saving the Sif romantic storyline for the third one (which i'd like to see at least brought out, even if it doesn't come to fruition).

For that to happen Jane would either have to be brought to Asgard, or the movie would need to be more heavily based in Midgard than the writers have suggested it will be.

It may be a good idea to set the second one heavily in Midgard. I just hope that at least one of the next two movies is a vast epic across many of the nine realms.

Have the writers said anything? Our first rumour was 'Enchantress and Executioner' in a possible interpretation of their first appearance. The second was Hela and no Midgard at all which baffled me.

Asgard could have a big role in such a plot. If Loki/Skurge/Amora are in the dangerous parts of the realm we will see another side beyond the palace. Balder could be introduced as leader of the team looking for an escaped Loki with Sif maybe.

That would allow Thor more time on Earth where the relationship could grow. And of course a place Thor can get called Donald a lot, because that is funny. :oldrazz:

It would be a mistake to make the movie about Jane. Most fans are making more of that than they need to because they are overcompensating Jane's role. She doesn't have to be the centre to be active. It needs to be about power. Loki should be fooling Enchantress who thinks she's fooling Loki. Perhaps showing the evolution of Skurge away from Enchantress.

It might be fun if Darcy does bring up the 'Sif is his wife' part of the myth book. Jane read that book then saw her so its got to be gnawing at the back of her head. Set the seed for some tension but leave the tension out for now.

I want to write this movie. :cmad:
The worst thing they can do is go to other weird realms without an identification figure for the audience and even then you really don't want Darcy and her tone in Hel. That doesn't work.

WildcatNC
08-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Have the writers said anything? Our first rumour was 'Enchantress and Executioner' in a possible interpretation of their first appearance. The second was Hela and no Midgard at all which baffled me.

Asgard could have a big role in such a plot. If Loki/Skurge/Amora are in the dangerous parts of the realm we will see another side beyond the palace. Balder could be introduced as leader of the team looking for an escaped Loki with Sif maybe.

That would allow Thor more time on Earth where the relationship could grow. And of course a place Thor can get called Donald a lot, because that is funny. :oldrazz:

It would be a mistake to make the movie about Jane. Most fans are making more of that than they need to because they are overcompensating Jane's role. She doesn't have to be the centre to be active. It needs to be about power. Loki should be fooling Enchantress who thinks she's fooling Loki. Perhaps showing the evolution of Skurge away from Enchantress.

It might be fun if Darcy does bring up the 'Sif is his wife' part of the myth book. Jane read that book then saw her so its got to be gnawing at the back of her head. Set the seed for some tension but leave the tension out for now.

I want to write this movie. :cmad:
The worst thing they can do is go to other weird realms without an identification figure for the audience and even then you really don't want Darcy and her tone in Hel. That doesn't work.

I would rather Loki not be around for Thor II. Still in exile and plotting his escape. It would allow Amora and others a chance to shine. She could of course be working to help Loki escape.

If Baldur is not in Thor II then i'll boycott it. :cmad:
*Not really but i'd be mad.

Thor has had his "human" moments and I don't think he'll have more. The situation and circumstances isn't there for it. It would make sense though if Amora (or Loki) goes after Jane and Midgard to compromise Thor. I'd rather it not be a typical "Damsel in distress" story though, it just involves her in the drama.

They could start the movie on Midgard and end it there, tying it all together, and have most of the movie take place in Asgard or the Nine Realms. Jane could go to Asgard maybe and set up the true cast of characters there, including Sifs growing frustration toward Thors affection for Jane and Midgard.

I would like to see Hel, Fenrir, and the Jormungandr introduced in though, at least by name or a story.


you really don't want Darcy and her tone in Hel.

:funny:

I don't know. I would like to see them film a scene like that and put it in the extra's but not in the movie. I wouldn't want it in the movie but it would bemuse me.

Vartha
08-28-2011, 03:08 PM
heh did you guys see the new TV show Kat Dennings is on?
She plays a waitress and she meets this girl on a subway train that eventully becomes a waitress with Kat.
Well their first meeting, this other girl Tazes Kat lol

WildcatNC
08-28-2011, 03:17 PM
heh did you guys see the new TV show Kat Dennings is on?
She plays a waitress and she meets this girl on a subway train that eventully becomes a waitress with Kat.
Well their first meeting, this other girl Tazes Kat lol

If she doesn't say "How DARE you threaten ME, DARCY, with so puny a ZZZZZZZZZZTTTTT" then I refuse to watch it.

Ah who am I kidding. Kat is hot as hell and i'd watch paint dry on her.

BigThor
08-28-2011, 08:56 PM
Yeah I agree with WildCat's comment about Thor's "human moments" being over with, they've already made him a better person so he shouldn't need to revisit them.

I also agree with O4nbod's comment about the movie not having to revolve around Jane, that would be a bit overbearing.

chiefchirpa
08-28-2011, 10:08 PM
So Loki is in this again?

Amber Heard for Amora, a visual feast for male and lesbians alike.

Son of Coul
08-28-2011, 11:32 PM
Oh lawd, Amber Heard makes me drool in delight

edit-
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy158/handmade3ltool/amber%20heard/117.jpg

ddddeeee
08-29-2011, 08:16 AM
If this movie doesn't spend a fair bit of time on earth it'll fail. The fish out of water humour is what made it work for the general audience and about half the critics claimed it was the better part of the film.

I realise you guys want your big, epic nine-worlds based movie but that's just not going to happen. It wouldn't be true to Marvel's Thor and Don Payne said in an interview that he was responsible for most of the earth bound stuff, and Marvel chose him to write the sequel.

Shadowlord X
08-29-2011, 09:10 AM
As much as I like Amber Heard, I don't think she has the glamour and seductiveness to portray The Enchantress.

Prison Mike
08-29-2011, 10:20 AM
Thor 2 will take place after The Avengers, right? They could explain Jane's absence in Thor 2 during The Avengers. I'm still wondering how Portman isn't in The Avengers given the ending of Thor (unless I missed something and she is in The Avengers)

steintym
08-29-2011, 10:51 AM
It will be interesting to see how they tie in the end of Thor with The Avengers. I'm curious how they'll address Thor's return to Earth and if they even reference Jane at all.

WildcatNC
08-29-2011, 10:56 AM
As much as I like Amber Heard, I don't think she has the glamour and seductiveness to portray The Enchantress.

I completely agree. She's fine as hell but I don't see her as Amora. I always pictured someone more like Christina Hendricks.

Vartha
08-29-2011, 01:46 PM
If she doesn't say "How DARE you threaten ME, DARCY, with so puny a ZZZZZZZZZZTTTTT" then I refuse to watch it.

Ah who am I kidding. Kat is hot as hell and i'd watch paint dry on her.
lol don't forget I own a stun gun....it left less of a mark...theere aren't any darts :D

here's the name of that program

AVDVD Player Morpher


Peeps, this program allows editing of the content on a dvd basically play back of chapters.
Now like I said it may not work unless there's a digital copy since you need to use both dvd discs.

best of all it's free :D

Vartha
08-29-2011, 01:47 PM
The DVD I purchased here in Brasil comes with a free poster.:woot:
lol then I'll have two if ours does too. :D

Vartha
08-29-2011, 01:51 PM
I missed that. Where is Yggdrasil in the credits?
Forgot the Black berry commerical had the world tree advertising the Thor movie

their version how ever doesn't show the entire scene but here's Yggdrasil
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/341/blackberryworldtree.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/blackberryworldtree.jpg/)
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8229/blackberryworldtree02.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/blackberryworldtree02.jpg/)

steintym
08-29-2011, 02:42 PM
Wow, I either missed that or forgot about it, too. Can't wait for the DVD to check out everything again.

I had to travel for work last week and the hotel I was staying at had Thor as a new release rental. I so wanted to rent it, but work kept me busy.

Vartha
08-29-2011, 06:41 PM
Yeah I didn't see it right off, untill the camera backed out of the shot the 2nd time I saw Thor.
Asgard is at the tip top of the world tree which really isn't shown it that pic, I hope the dvd shows a bit more to show the roots since we're about in the center of the trunk of the tree.

04nbod
09-01-2011, 11:19 AM
Saw this on Tumblr

Tom Hiddleston Will Return For Thor 2; Talks About The Villany Of Loki In The Avengers
With the release of Kenneth Branagh’s Thor on DVD and Blu-Ray this month (September 13), talking to MTV, Tom Hiddleston confirmed that he will be back to portray Loki in the upcoming sequel, and that the story will continue where The Avengers ends. Also, he says that as far as Thor 2 director goes, nothing is confirmed.
On whether or not he’s talked to Brian Kirk (rumored Thor 2 director) about the sequel and where will the story go:

“I haven’t. I also don’t know that that’s actually confirmed. That’s not me being coy. I spoke to Kevin Feige last week on [The Avengers] set and he said, ‘Oh no, we haven’t got anyone yet. We’re thinking about people. I think probably next spring is the idea because the release date is locked down,” he said, adding that the storyline for the film will still likely pick-up from where The Avengers leaves off.”

On the villany of Loki in The Avengers and how different the character is:

“In The Avengers he’s really dark and kind of sociopathic, or maybe even psychopathic is the word, in a deluded way. Obviously I haven’t let go of the spiritual damage at the heart of him, it still comes from that lost place, but he’s just incredibly nasty. I think that probably in Thor 2 his previous actions will, he’ll have to take responsibility for what he’s done. The great thing about Loki is there is potential in him for greatness and awfulness, for great heroism and great villainy. There are still, even within The Avengers, there are moments where you see within Loki a glimmer of hope and that possibility of redemption. It makes it fun to play and it makes it fun for the audience. Nobody is black and white, there are shades of grey in all of us. We all have potential for greatness and we all have flaws.

“I for one am championing the redemption,” he added hopefully, along with a wish for a future Thor and Loki action scene: “This isn’t definitely going to happen, but I think there would be nothing more awesome than seeing Loki and Thor fight somebody side by side.”



It kind of worries me they are basically looking for someone to point and shoot, if we are to believe that they have started the script.

ddddeeee
09-01-2011, 12:32 PM
They started with the script months ago. It's not a big deal, Thor went through tons of drafts before Branagh came on board.

DarkSovereignty
09-01-2011, 02:16 PM
so brian kirk might not direct? hmmm, we might get an INTERESTING choice yet.

04nbod
09-01-2011, 02:24 PM
They started with the script months ago. It's not a big deal, Thor went through tons of drafts before Branagh came on board.

There wasn't a script when Natalie signed on and that was after Branagh. She went on record with that saying she had the ability to help shape her character. Jaime Alexander said she asked Marvel to include stuff in the script so it wasn't complete by the time she was signed on either. Branagh was definitely there to shape it in its infancy.

As I recall, by the time we knew Chris was Thor we were still in the belief the entire thing would be on Asgard which led to much confusion.

ddddeeee
09-01-2011, 02:51 PM
There's a readily available script dated April 2007. The movie was originally going to be directed by Matthew Vaughn and set in Viking times, then when Branagh came on board he changed it to modern day.

Even Branagh has said a few times that there were many versions of the script before he came on.

Vartha
09-01-2011, 02:58 PM
yeah but dee the one script Matt was going to direct isn't hardly CLOSE to what we saw for Thor one.

EDIT: not to mention Marvel said that script would have cost too much which was another reason behind all the changes.

Steve Holt
09-01-2011, 11:15 PM
3 HUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDRED Million Dollars

04nbod
09-02-2011, 06:27 AM
There's a readily available script dated April 2007. The movie was originally going to be directed by Matthew Vaughn and set in Viking times, then when Branagh came on board he changed it to modern day.

Even Branagh has said a few times that there were many versions of the script before he came on.


It was a completely different script. And I still don't understand why they would do Viking Thor. That would be like adapting Red Son for a Superman movie. Its a nice change of pace for a comic but isn't really a reflection on the character as a whole.

chiefchirpa
09-02-2011, 06:35 AM
^ They formerly wanted Thor to be Lord of the Rings-like epic.

Good call for Marvel to avoid a money sinkhole.

04nbod
09-02-2011, 06:39 AM
Also, as I recall it was JMS who wanted Thor on Earth. (He told CBR at comic-con) He believes Thor doesn't seem like a god if everyone else in the story is a god. He's just one of the crowd. By putting him on Earth you show how awesome he is. He's completely right about that. The problem we face in Thor is that he isn't a god on Earth and that can be rectified in Thor 2.

Vartha
09-02-2011, 03:09 PM
3 HUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDRED Million Dollars
drooooool Can you imagine if they DID go with the first draft? I would have been institutionalized. lol

Vartha
09-02-2011, 03:14 PM
Also, as I recall it was JMS who wanted Thor on Earth. (He told CBR at comic-con) He believes Thor doesn't seem like a god if everyone else in the story is a god. He's just one of the crowd. By putting him on Earth you show how awesome he is. He's completely right about that. The problem we face in Thor is that he isn't a god on Earth and that can be rectified in Thor 2.
Well he was even in the 1st draft. The biggest thing in a Thor origin story is setting up a god walking among mortals being taught a lesson of humility.
He doesn't really have to be a "God", he CAN be explained to be an an advance race of immortals, and still tell the story of the use of power and responsibility of those powers.

Spider-Fan
09-03-2011, 12:38 PM
Saw this on Tumblr


It kind of worries me they are basically looking for someone to point and shoot, if we are to believe that they have started the script.

That is how it works in Hollywood. You start the script before you have a director (assuming the previous director doesn't come back). It's standard procedure. The director will then normally get someone to rewrite the script more to his taste, but the core story will remain the same 9 times out of 10. This is not all that worriesome. It's common practice.

Thor had MANY drafts before Branagh came on. Same with Cap before JJ. And Iron Man before Favs. Etc. The script is always the first thing to be worked on in any production.

herolee10
09-07-2011, 03:07 AM
I mentioned this a while back, but I was wondering, after doing some research on Thor's character, would you guys want Thor's franchise to introduce the other brothers (half) that he has, along with his real biological mother? I read up that Thor's mom was from Earth and that she had other and very strong children elsewhere as well.

Vartha
09-07-2011, 03:45 AM
I mentioned this a while back, but I was wondering, after doing some research on Thor's character, would you guys want Thor's franchise to introduce the other brothers (half) that he has, along with his real biological mother? I read up that Thor's mom was from Earth and that she had other and very strong children elsewhere as well.
Thor's real mothers is GAEA or Jord, GODDESS of Earth, a very ancient goddess, and technically kind of relates the Olympians to Thor.

Yeah I'm hoping Balder and Vidar somehow show up in future films. It would be nice to have them at least mentioned.

herolee10
09-07-2011, 03:56 AM
Thor's real mothers is GAEA or Jord, GODDESS of Earth, a very ancient goddess, and technically kind of relates the Olympians to Thor.

Yeah I'm hoping Balder and Vidar somehow show up in future films. It would be nice to have them at least mentioned.

I'm hoping that Thor's next solo adventure takes/requires him to travel across the nine realms. I want to see Thor interact with the "Outer/Mystical World" element and have him featured in grand scaled adventures, similar to the LOTR in a sense...or just to have him placed in something more of his own environment.


I also hope that Asgard itself is given more depth in the sequel because imho, the more the audience becomes invested into the hero's homeland, the more climactic it'll feel when that very homeland is put into risk/danger.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they'll go the route of Loki having a daughter since I think his daughter is supposed to be the master of the underworld or something.

Vartha
09-07-2011, 04:19 AM
I'm hoping that Thor's next solo adventure takes/requires him to travel across the nine realms. I want to see Thor interact with the "Outer/Mystical World" element and have him featured in grand scaled adventures, similar to the LOTR in a sense...or just to have him placed in something more of his own environment.


I also hope that Asgard itself is given more depth in the sequel because imho, the more the audience becomes invested into the hero's homeland, the more climactic it'll feel when that very homeland is put into risk/danger.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they'll go the route of Loki having a daughter since I think his daughter is supposed to be the master of the underworld or something.
I was thinking about that the other day reading Journey into Mystery 626.1.
I'm also hoping that they show a bit more of Yggdrasil to see if the Hel and demon worlds are at the World Tree's roots. Even if it's just a HINT I'd be happy.

herolee10
09-07-2011, 04:21 AM
I was thinking about that the other day reading Journey into Mystery 626.1.
I'm also hoping that they show a bit more of Yggdrasil to see if the Hel and demon worlds are at the World Tree's roots. Even if it's just a HINT I'd be happy.

Well if I'm not mistaken, is his daughter supposed to be centuries old? Unless Loki had a child that no one was aware of during the events of "Thor", it's hard to believe that someone like that wouldn't gain mention at all previously imho.

I wonder if they'll just go down the Mystique and Nightcrawler route and have them ignore the relationship shared between Loki and his demonic world daughter completely.

BigThor
09-07-2011, 11:28 AM
I'm hoping that Thor's next solo adventure takes/requires him to travel across the nine realms. I want to see Thor interact with the "Outer/Mystical World" element and have him featured in grand scaled adventures, similar to the LOTR in a sense...or just to have him placed in something more of his own environment.


I also hope that Asgard itself is given more depth in the sequel because imho, the more the audience becomes invested into the hero's homeland, the more climactic it'll feel when that very homeland is put into risk/danger.

I whole heartedly agree with this ENTIRE post.

Speaking of which, I wonder if they'll go the route of Loki having a daughter since I think his daughter is supposed to be the master of the underworld or something.

Yeah Loki has a daughter named Hela who is the ruler of a place called HEL which is the Asgardian underworld.