View Full Version : Are we ever gonna see a Batarang used as an offensive weapon?
Chris Wallace
07-10-2011, 04:45 PM
6 movies, 3 directors, 4 men wearing the cowl and it hasn't happened yet.
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/TheNinjaShadow/Batman_Article/batarang.jpg
Knight Rise
07-10-2011, 04:47 PM
One day man. One day
Troy_Parker
07-10-2011, 05:13 PM
Soon.
Blitzkrieg Bop
07-10-2011, 05:59 PM
The Nolan batarangs look like they could get lodged into someone's skin and since Bane is a real tough dude, maybe he'll take a few to the body.
EDIT: There was that lame remote control batarang in Batman Returns.
Chris Wallace
07-10-2011, 06:34 PM
I try not to think about that device which you already acknowledged was lame. ANd that was an electronic bludgeoning device. I want to see him throw one at somebody.
Godzilla2014
07-11-2011, 08:55 AM
I don't know if we will, but keep in mind that, in the comics as well as Batman: The Animated Series and Batman: Arkham Asylum, there are multiple types of Batarangs for different purposes. The Batarang seen in Batman (1989) is very close to the comics (in purpose), as in the original comics before the grapnel gun came along in the movie itself, swinging on a Batarang with a rope was Batman's preferred method of travel. Shuriken types of Batarangs, such as those seen in the Nolan films, go back to Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. I think that the reason that we don't see the Batarangs thrown at people in the Nolan films is that would get bloody, possibly crossing the line into the R-rating, given their shuriken-esque nature.
Mister Meddle
07-11-2011, 08:59 AM
I love Batman Returns but I always thought the remote Batarang was kind of silly. And yeah, throwing a Nolan Batarang is like tossing around a knife with five sharp edges. EDIT: Yeah, it's more like a shuriken.
And there was the Batarang in Batman 1989 that folds but it was used for a different purpose.
Batman (1989):
http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/f/f0/Batarang_b89.jpg
Batman Returns:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q201/Otis777/batarang-returns.jpg?t=1241994669
Batman Forever:
http://www.yourprops.com/norm-4c37ce5474c18-Batman+Forever+%281995%29.jpeg
Batman Begins:
http://www.holeinthegroundpro.com/images/mini%20Batarangs%20web.jpg
Knight Rise
07-11-2011, 09:03 AM
There was also the one used in Batman: Forever against Riddler
Godzilla2014
07-11-2011, 09:20 AM
I love Batman Returns but I always thought the remote Batarang was kind of silly. And yeah, throwing a Nolan Batarang is like tossing around a knife with five sharp edges. EDIT: Yeah, it's more like a shuriken.
And there was the Batarang in Batman 1989 that folds but it was used for a different purpose.
Batman (1989):
http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/f/f0/Batarang_b89.jpg
Batman Returns:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q201/Otis777/batarang-returns.jpg?t=1241994669
Batman Forever:
http://www.yourprops.com/norm-4c37ce5474c18-Batman+Forever+%281995%29.jpeg
Batman Begins:
http://www.holeinthegroundpro.com/images/mini%20Batarangs%20web.jpg
I thought that the remote control Batarang was cool, it was just stupid how it was caught by a dog. Also, I think you forgot the standard Batarang from Batman Forever:
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_city_central/batcave/pics/batarang_bf.jpg
There was also the one used in Batman: Forever against Riddler
Yes, this one that Mister Meddle posted:
http://www.yourprops.com/norm-4c37ce5474c18-Batman+Forever+%281995%29.jpeg
Mister Meddle
07-11-2011, 09:23 AM
It was the way the Batarang automatically detects it's targets and how everyone just stands there waiting to get hit. Even when I was a kid I thought that Batarang was silly but it was only used for ten seconds so it's not like it was a big deal.
By the way, the Forever Batarangs look quite heavy. Good luck tossing those.
Knight Rise
07-11-2011, 09:25 AM
Something like they did in Arkham Asylum would work. Stuns them, trips them, whatever it may be
Mister Meddle
07-11-2011, 09:27 AM
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/08/500x_batman.jpg
Godzilla2014
07-11-2011, 09:39 AM
It was the way the Batarang automatically detects it's targets and how everyone just stands there waiting to get hit. Even when I was a kid I thought that Batarang was silly but it was only used for ten seconds so it's not like it was a big deal.
By the way, the Forever Batarangs look quite heavy. Good luck tossing those.
I agree.
Something like they did in Arkham Asylum would work. Stuns them, trips them, whatever it may be
For what it's worth, wouldn't it be physically impossible for Batman to throw the Batarang which then knocks a full-grown man flat on his ass and keeping him down that long? Batman only has human strength, after all.
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/08/500x_batman.jpg
Nice.
Knight Rise
07-11-2011, 10:30 AM
Isn't that the cataract from the Arkham Asylum collectors edition?
Chris Wallace
07-11-2011, 01:54 PM
I love Batman Returns but I always thought the remote Batarang was kind of silly. And yeah, throwing a Nolan Batarang is like tossing around a knife with five sharp edges. EDIT: Yeah, it's more like a shuriken.
And there was the Batarang in Batman 1989 that folds but it was used for a different purpose.
Batman (1989):
http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/f/f0/Batarang_b89.jpg
Batman Returns:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q201/Otis777/batarang-returns.jpg?t=1241994669
Batman Forever:
http://www.yourprops.com/norm-4c37ce5474c18-Batman+Forever+%281995%29.jpeg
Batman Begins:
http://www.holeinthegroundpro.com/images/mini%20Batarangs%20web.jpg
He also had a grapple Batarang in the critically acclaimed fan pleaser, Batman & Robin. And the ones he fired from his wrist to save Robin & Chase in Batman Forever. But none of these was thrown at an enemy to knock him out or knock a weapon out of his hand.
Knight Rise
07-11-2011, 01:57 PM
The BB batarang was more like a mini bat signal.
"Yeah, this took out the freaking ceiling lights. IM COMIN FOR YOU B**CH!"
Chris Wallace
07-11-2011, 02:02 PM
I agree with that.
fire_rising
07-14-2011, 01:10 PM
It has been used as a weapon, right? Didn't Batman use it in BB when he escapes from the train? Or was that just a normal explosive?
Chris Wallace
07-14-2011, 02:57 PM
Used a Batarang to knock out the window and a mini-bomb to dislodge the train car. But that makes it a tool, not a weapon. I specifically said offensive weapon, as in one he'd throw at somebody's head.
Chris Wallace
07-14-2011, 04:54 PM
Something else I just realized; he's holding on in the TDK poster but we don't see him use one in the entire movie. I always thought it would've made more sense for him to use one against Two-Face rather than get shot. When he flips the coin, his eyes are locked on it, you can throw a batarang and take him out.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq360/Doomhide/thedarkknightcopy.jpg
Godzilla2014
07-15-2011, 11:01 PM
Something else I just realized; he's holding on in the TDK poster but we don't see him use one in the entire movie. I always thought it would've made more sense for him to use one against Two-Face rather than get shot. When he flips the coin, his eyes are locked on it, you can throw a batarang and take him out.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq360/Doomhide/thedarkknightcopy.jpg
I'm not sure what you mean by using one on Two Face. These Batarangs are more like shuriken than boomerangs, and it would more likely impale Two Face then disarm him by knocking the gun from his hand or knocking him down.
Llama_Shepherd
07-16-2011, 11:53 AM
I'm not sure what you mean by using one on Two Face. These Batarangs are more like shuriken than boomerangs, and it would more likely impale Two Face then disarm him by knocking the gun from his hand or knocking him down.
Throw it at his hand. Sever the nerves so he can't shoot. But like Joker said "he had to break his rule (again)". Two Face wasn't collateral damage, it was murder, had people discovered what Harvey became, Joker would win completely.
Batman4ever
07-19-2011, 12:45 PM
I don't think it has to be used as a weapon. I mean it serves a prupose greater than that. It can bring villians down and then move in for the kill.
Godzilla2014
07-19-2011, 12:56 PM
Throw it at his hand. Sever the nerves so he can't shoot. But like Joker said "he had to break his rule (again)". Two Face wasn't collateral damage, it was murder, had people discovered what Harvey became, Joker would win completely.
A Batarang that severs Two-Face's nerves would probably risk him bleeding to death, and who's to say that Two-Face wouldn't shoot the boy while Batman is aiming at him? A hand is a small target that moves a lot, so it's a hard target to hit, especially with a slow-moving (compared to a bullet) projectile like a Batarang. And it's not breaking his rule. His rule is that he's no executioner, not that he won't kill. He didn't kill Two-Face to punish him as in an execution, he pushed him over the edge trying to save Gordon's son.
Llama_Shepherd
07-19-2011, 01:13 PM
A Batarang that severs Two-Face's nerves would probably risk him bleeding to death
The police were there and could have taken him to hospital.
and who's to say that Two-Face wouldn't shoot the boy while Batman is aiming at him? A hand is a small target that moves a lot, so it's a hard target to hit, especially with a slow-moving (compared to a bullet) projectile like a Batarang.
A thrown projectile is still faster than a Batman lying on the floor, standing up and then running over to Harvey.
And it's not breaking his rule. His rule is that he's no executioner, not that he won't kill. He didn't kill Two-Face to punish him as in an execution, he pushed him over the edge trying to save Gordon's son.
Did Bruce intentionally throw Harvey off the building? He knew he had to throw him off, and that the fall would likely kill him, Joker made him break his rule.
Tatsumarushinob
07-25-2011, 01:46 PM
Batman didn't kill Dent. Batman HAD to take him down in order to save Gordon's kid. It was a necessity and a risk he took, he didn't deliberately kill him if that is what you meant. There was no reason to let Gordon's son or any other innocent victim die again. Batman did what he had to do. Dent was not Dent anymore at that point. And for all we know, he might as well be alive.
theman
08-02-2011, 10:44 AM
batman DID use a baterang as an offensive weapon in Returns with that remote controlled one. he knocked down like 5 guys in one shot....except for that poodle.
Chris Wallace
08-02-2011, 10:46 AM
We've been over that one and that stupid thing made me cringe. I want him to THROW a simple Batarang directly AT somebody.
helloiamben
08-04-2011, 12:39 AM
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Chris Wallace
08-04-2011, 02:46 AM
The electronic Batarang (really, that thing looks like a hand-held video game) has been discussed and I've clarified specifically what I'm referring to. Twice. Besides, can it truly even be considered a Batarang if he doesn't throw it?
Bathead
08-04-2011, 09:21 AM
To me, the Batarangs In Begins were more like Bat-shurikens than anything else. That's too lethal a weapon for Batman. A proper Batarang, as originally intended by Kane and Finger - a boomerang with the usual Bat themed design that was both meant as a non-lethal weapon, that also doubled as the means to secure the Bat-rope to high ledges and the like. With the advent of the grapling gun, the latter function is out dated, but I also would like to see a proper Batarang utilized as a non-lethal wepon used to knock out the bad guys as it was once used. If the next film version of Batman takes a more traditonal approach (which I would love to see) that might happen.
Chris Wallace
08-04-2011, 07:29 PM
Batman didn't kill Dent. Batman HAD to take him down in order to save Gordon's kid. It was a necessity and a risk he took, he didn't deliberately kill him if that is what you meant. There was no reason to let Gordon's son or any other innocent victim die again. Batman did what he had to do. Dent was not Dent anymore at that point. And for all we know, he might as well be alive.
He's dead. That's been confirmed by Nolan.
sSArkAngelSs
08-05-2011, 11:41 AM
Yeah we do need some Batarang action, and Nolan should be the one to do it in this movie!
Webbed Will
08-05-2011, 05:51 PM
I get the impression that the Batarang seen in the Nolan films is meant to be more of a tool than a weapon, such as when Batman used them to douse the docks in darkness in Batman Begins. Personally, I think that sort of thing is the best way for them to be used. If they were used as a weapon, it may all depend on how it's done, but I think that it may be a bit too lethal for a Batman that appears to be more about hand-to-hand combat.
That having been said, I wouldn't be against seeing one used in a future Batman film.
Bruce Malone
08-05-2011, 10:59 PM
The BB batarangs are all part of the ninja battle style LOS stuff. They're more for distraction and diversion than anything.
MessiahDecoy123
08-05-2011, 11:55 PM
I don't miss the batarang but I do miss how Batman constantly used the powered grapple gun in BTAS. That s--t was classic.
Chris Wallace
08-06-2011, 12:06 AM
You mean as opposed to once or twice? Well he doesn't swing in the movies and he couldn't glide in the series.
MessiahDecoy123
08-06-2011, 12:57 AM
I only remember him using the powered grapple hook once or twice in Batman Begins then never again. Correct?
Chris Wallace
08-06-2011, 01:16 AM
He used it in TDK; right after he wasted 15 minutes fighting w/SWAT (instead of saying, "Look at the clowns! They're the hostages! Just LOOK. damn it!") he used it to get to the top of the Pruitt Building.
MessiahDecoy123
08-06-2011, 01:46 AM
Oh okay.
I just loved those moments in BTAS when Batman would use the powered grapple hook to exit dangerous or even casual encounters. Bad ass.
Chris Wallace
08-06-2011, 01:58 AM
He used it to end conversations.
Godzilla2014
08-06-2011, 03:49 PM
I don't miss the batarang but I do miss how Batman constantly used the powered grapple gun in BTAS. That s--t was classic.
I prefer Batman gliding to him constantly using the grapple gun because gliding strengthens the bat imagery.
Well, one was used to kill that model or whoever by the Penguin in "Batman Returns"....if that counts
The Navigator
08-06-2011, 07:09 PM
He used it in TDK; right after he wasted 15 minutes fighting w/SWAT (instead of saying, "Look at the clowns! They're the hostages! Just LOOK. damn it!") he used it to get to the top of the Pruitt Building.
And to pull the fake Batman out of dog-biting range and to rescue the Joker from his fall.
The Joker
08-12-2011, 10:12 AM
I concur, there does need to be more batarang usage. I like the blade gauntlet things he got in TDK, but he only got to use them once on the Joker.
Lead Cenobite
09-01-2011, 04:31 PM
I only remember him using the powered grapple hook once or twice in Batman Begins then never again. Correct?
I'm pretty sure he uses it more than that. He used it quite a bit at the docks and at Arkham.
Deathlok
11-24-2011, 08:02 AM
The problem with the Nolan batarangs is that they easily have the potential to be a lethal weapon. Being so gosh darned sharp and all.
Enriquespy
11-25-2011, 01:30 PM
They also count as badass post-its, write the note in it and throw it away!!!
But yes, they deserve mor uses than just breaking some lightbulbs and windows...
SuperSoldier985
12-04-2011, 12:19 AM
With each movie, we've seen Batman use a variety of gagdets and devices, some old and some new in new ways...So, even though it might be nice to see him use the batarangs, I'm sure we will see something just as cool...
Dragonheart11
12-09-2011, 05:57 AM
Wow, I would think that they would have already.
If not a batarang, at least the batzooka.
uniqueweasel
12-12-2011, 12:03 PM
I don't know if this has been touched on, but does anyone else think perhaps the Batarang in BB could be more about "sending a message" to the underworld, etc? Like how the Joker leaves the playing card at the scene of his crime. Batman was leaving a Batarang, which is essentially his symbol near where he has apprehended criminals as a way of showing he captured them, therefore becoming the myth, etc. Just an idea :)
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