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07-13-2011, 02:27 PM
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Armalarm
07-13-2011, 02:27 PM
Yes, that was HD. You can see the quality :(
I bet you it's Bane's laptop
Wow! Really? You guys can't tell thats the cam version!??
You can so tell that its the same clip. The letters are off centre, you can see the light fading out around the boarders of the frame (as If it was FILMED in a cinema!)
Come on guys!
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:28 PM
FU thread manager!
TheFuture
07-13-2011, 02:28 PM
About the guy with the laptop on youtube, qiality is definitely better. You get a much clearer view of the final scene anyway.
Nevincer
07-13-2011, 02:28 PM
FU thread manager!
I was about to say... I didn't get to finish my damn post :cmad::cmad:
Secret_Riddle
07-13-2011, 02:29 PM
That doesn't prove it is Bruce. It could be Bane pretending to be Batman to get info out of Gordon.
But he has Bruce's voice and Bruce's build. Not to mention that conversation from the teaser loses a whole lot of meaning if it's not authentic...
Highly improbable.
Kane52630
07-13-2011, 02:29 PM
About the guy with the laptop on youtube, qiality is definitely better. You get a much clearer view of the final scene anyway.
Yes, you can see what I'm talking about with the overhead light behind Batman and you can sorta make out someone behind Batman as well.
Robin91939
07-13-2011, 02:30 PM
Hard to say the title is a reference though. I suppose in that sense Batman forerver is tied to Batman and Batman Returns.
"The Dark Knight had several references, both literal and thematic, to Batman Begins. Thematically"
There might have been. No idea. I didn't see anything overtly carried over other then the rachel story line or bruce working in a bunker instead of his house.
No references to los, or the narrows, or escaped inmates. I'm guessing that was all cleaned up between films.
"It'll be nice when Wayne Manor's rebuilt...you can swap not sleeping in a penthouse, for not sleeping in a mansion".
- Alfred Pennyworth, reference to Ra's Al Ghul burning down Wayne Manor in Batman Begins
"You once told me, if the day came when I was finished, we'd be together...did you mean it?"
- Bruce Wayne, reference to Rachel's speech to Bruce at the end of Batman Begins
"With Carmine Falcone in Arkham, someone must have stepped up to run the so called 'family'...is that man in this court room today?"
- Harvey Dent, reference from Carmine Falcone
"The man, Salvatore Maroni is the head of the Falcone crime family".
- Harvey Dent, reference to the Carmine Falcone
"Not my diagnosis"
- Jonathan Crane, villain from Batman Begins
"That's wasn't exactly what I had in mind when I said I wanted to inspire people".
- Bruce Wayne, referencing conversation with Alfred on plane in Batman Begins
"I was meant to inspire good, not madness, not death."
- Bruce Wayne, referencing conversation with Alfred on plane in Batman Begins
"You aren't going to tell me you didn't recognize your baby pancaking cop cars on the evening news."
- Coleman Reese, referencing chase from Batman Begins
These are just off the top of my head, and are all references to Batman Begins in The Dark Knight. There are PLENTY in there...it's not a loose sequel like Batman Forever... It's a complete continuation of the story.
-R
Lots o lafs
07-13-2011, 02:30 PM
About the guy with the laptop on youtube, qiality is definitely better. You get a much clearer view of the final scene anyway.
there were two versions, one has a higher res, they were both posted in here earlier, i know this because i downloaded both to my comp.
Nevincer
07-13-2011, 02:30 PM
Yes, you can see what I'm talking about with the overhead light behind Batman and you can sorta make out someone behind Batman as well.
I think it's a spare costume.
thatsabadoutfit
07-13-2011, 02:30 PM
I just watched the clearer version...
Anybody notice the scene where the buildings are collapsing and we're moved closer to the bat-logo that the buildings are collapsing but also rebuilding themselves?
Conebone69
07-13-2011, 02:31 PM
Woooow, not really impressed with the teaser. That didnt really get my all that pumped...
Anita18
07-13-2011, 02:31 PM
There's not a "high res" version but there is one with higher res, and it fills up my screen.
Facebook, dudes...Facebook. This is why you friend SHHers before the big day. :cwink:
And if not, at least Twitter. :oldrazz:
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 02:31 PM
About the guy with the laptop on youtube, qiality is definitely better. You get a much clearer view of the final scene anyway.
No! Do not be fooled! That is the EXACT same clip as the leaked version. You can even see on his media player maker that he starts it a few seconds into it, because real steel was right before!
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:31 PM
I'll admit, the teaser trailer has grown on me ALOT since watching it five hours ago. I gotta say... I'm freakin' excited!
Sure, the recycled footage, cliche taglines, and the hospital scene weren't something I would praise, but Bane and the chanting made my spine tingle! Bring it on Nolan!
Jedm1991
07-13-2011, 02:31 PM
To the "Gordon could be talking to Bane" people/person
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2117/9fzdp1.jpg
Same suit as the window ski mask pic now stfu!
DIRECTOR
07-13-2011, 02:31 PM
the teaser alone was better than all the teaser trailers this year
Alex Logan
07-13-2011, 02:31 PM
So much for the teaser, total waste of time. If that's all they had, why even release it?
:wall:
Nevincer
07-13-2011, 02:32 PM
Woooow, not really impressed with the teaser. That didnt really get my all that pumped...
So much for the teaser, total waste of time. If that's all they had, why even release it?
:wall:
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab86/tumamaentanga_2010/gifs/Batmansad.gif
jazzmatik
07-13-2011, 02:32 PM
I haven't watched it yet because I'm waiting for the official HD release of it for a better first impression, but do you think it has more of a BB vibe or a TDK vibe?
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:32 PM
I was about to say... I didn't get to finish my damn post :cmad::cmad:
Me either! I was going to tell Robin how awesome his post was. Thread manager has RUINED MY LIFE. :cmad:
ronny
07-13-2011, 02:32 PM
But he has Bruce's voice and Bruce's build. Not to mention that conversation from the teaser loses a whole lot of meaning if it's not authentic...
Highly improbable.
Plus, Gordon is very smart. Batman even theorised that Gordon was so smart he must had deduced his secret identity.
There's no way Bane could fool Jim Gordon.
thatsabadoutfit
07-13-2011, 02:32 PM
By the time we're almost all the way zoomed into the bat-logo the buildings are no longer collapsing and look normal.
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:33 PM
I have to wonder what the complainers were expecting here. It's a teaser, and they haven't been shooting that long. FFS.
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:33 PM
Woooow, not really impressed with the teaser. That didnt really get my all that pumped...
Wait for it, it grew on me. Took a couple of hours of reviewing it but I think I'm having a heart attack (the good kind) :woot:
DIRECTOR
07-13-2011, 02:33 PM
as much as i love Batman Begins, i wish Batman Begins had the same color tone and epicness of TDK and TDKR. :(
LegendaryCaleb
07-13-2011, 02:34 PM
wow...this looks pretty amazing...still think the evil rises line is kinda lame though
Mister Meddle
07-13-2011, 02:34 PM
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab86/tumamaentanga_2010/gifs/Batmansad.gif
Best gif!
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:34 PM
as much as i love Batman Begins, i wish Batman Begins had the same color tone and epicness of TDK and TDKR. :(
I've always felt BB was pretty epic. :huh:
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 02:34 PM
I have to wonder what the complainers were expecting here. It's a teaser, and they haven't been shooting that long. FFS.
Doesn't matter how long they've been filming.
Filmmakers usually dont shoot a film in order.
joker1524
07-13-2011, 02:34 PM
this trailer is doing wonders for my head now, apart of me feels that batman will triumph in the end but deep down inside i have a feeling the ending will be tragic
TheFuture
07-13-2011, 02:34 PM
No! Do not be fooled! That is the EXACT same clip as the leaked version. You can even see on his media player maker that he starts it a few seconds into it, because real steel was right before!
Ah I dunno, maybe you're right and the guy just has the brightness turned up really high on his comp.
floreairfoot
07-13-2011, 02:35 PM
Woooow, not really impressed with the teaser. That didnt really get my all that pumped...
Probably because you watched a crappy version with poor picture quality/sound; when you see it in a theater, you'll change your mind.
-That's why i'm waiting it out, I've waited too long to have it ruined now.
Robin91939
07-13-2011, 02:35 PM
Where's the clearest version?
-R
Nevincer
07-13-2011, 02:35 PM
I've always felt BB was pretty epic. :huh:
:up::up::up:
Conebone69
07-13-2011, 02:35 PM
I have to wonder what the complainers were expecting here. It's a teaser, and they haven't been shooting that long. FFS.
Idk, a better teaser trailer? It was just poorly made in my opinion. And then it ends with "The epic conclusion" Really? Nolan is just going more and more hollywood
Secret_Riddle
07-13-2011, 02:35 PM
To the "Gordon could be talking to Bane" people/person
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2117/9fzdp1.jpg
Same suit as the window ski mask pic now stfu!
I wish to quote this for the truth it represents.
But seriously. Nail on the head. Things slowly begin to unravel!
batbax
07-13-2011, 02:36 PM
I think the way gordon delivers even a "cheesy" line makes it work...You can hear the pain and desperation in his voice which just adds to the electricity in the teaser in my opinion.
Lots o lafs
07-13-2011, 02:36 PM
Where's the clearest version?
-R
chris nolans head.
Solidus
07-13-2011, 02:36 PM
The more I watch it the more I love it, it actually had gotten even better for me. :up:
Jedm1991
07-13-2011, 02:36 PM
The people behind "REAL STEEL" leaked the trailer to get publicity.
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:36 PM
My only other gripe with the teaser is that they should have focused on Bane alot more...
Bane needs an entire trailer!!!!
thatsabadoutfit
07-13-2011, 02:37 PM
So much for the teaser, total waste of time. If that's all they had, why even release it?
:wall:
Because Harry Potter will be the highest grossing movie of the year and to even make people aware there is a sequel coming out and a tiny fraction of a storyline works wonders. Why not release something? All WB really had to do was something similiar to what the did for TDK teaser. You're lucky you got any footage.
Alex Logan
07-13-2011, 02:37 PM
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab86/tumamaentanga_2010/gifs/Batmansad.gif
Exactly.
Me either! I was going to tell Robin how awesome his post was. Thread manager has RUINED MY LIFE. :cmad:
Agreed, getting really tired of that.
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:37 PM
Doesn't matter how long they've been filming.
Filmmakers usually dont shoot a film in order.
I'm perfectly aware of that. And the shooting order has...what, exactly, to do with what I said? I pointed out that they haven't been shooting long, and I imagine any action scenes they've done are still pretty raw. Compare that to, say, the Spider-man 3 teaser trailer, whose CGI wasn't even present in some scenes, like where Peter rips off the black suit - if something is unfinished, raw, you shouldn't show it.
And I think it is a good thing they have chosen to show us something more emotionally driven that merely hints at the epic destruction that has happened.
Kane52630
07-13-2011, 02:37 PM
The more I watch it the more I love it, it actually had gotten even better for me. :up:
Same here but I still think it's okay.
DIRECTOR
07-13-2011, 02:37 PM
I've always felt BB was pretty epic. :huh:
Not on the scale of TDK. BB had a brownish color tone to the film, but TDK had black/blue color tone, and TDK was way more epic than BB.
It's like after TDK, Nolan started using similar styles, like the epicness of Inception, same color tone.
Here is a better example
BB = The Prestige
TDK = Inception
BB and The Prestige doesn't not compare to TDK and Inception
Octoberist
07-13-2011, 02:38 PM
So Conebone was a lier
Idk, a better teaser trailer? It was just poorly made in my opinion. And then it ends with "The epic conclusion" Really? Nolan is just going more and more hollywood
Nolan didn't write the teaser, a marketing team did.
Thanks Secret Riddle.
I get where your going Robin91939. However I've seen Begins and TDK a thousand times and I don't think I ever heard the Scarecrow say ""Not my diagnosis"
and say ah ha...thats from Batman Begins.
Bigger things like the inmates being loose, the talismen that bruce and rachel shared, and actual reference to the los of shadows, maybe even saying the words, Ras or los shadows once were things that stood out in my mind.
I'm sure I could dig out some phrases from Batman 89 and compare them to Batman forever or Batman and robin,,and again..maybe those films were connected...but to me, they didn't feel that way...as bb and tdk didn't feel that way to me. Someone argued that well...they didn't mention los or ras in the film, but the presence was there. I find that a pretty hard argument to defend to the average movie goer that saw tdk. I'm doubtful anyone walked out of tdk, even those that watched bb quite a bit and said...wow...los is still strong in gotham.
joker1524
07-13-2011, 02:38 PM
im excited even more because it seems like we got hugh jackman and a robot in this movie as well...bravo nolan!
jazzmatik
07-13-2011, 02:38 PM
Idk, a better teaser trailer? It was just poorly made in my opinion. And then it ends with "The epic conclusion" Really? Nolan is just going more and more hollywood
I haven't seen it yet but they should have used "The Final Chapter" instead.
HighFivingMF
07-13-2011, 02:38 PM
My only other gripe with the teaser is that they should have focused on Bane alot more...
Bane needs an entire trailer!!!!
The movie doesn't come out for another year. I'm sure we'll get some Bane-based promos before then.
TheFuture
07-13-2011, 02:39 PM
My only other gripe with the teaser is that they should have focused on Bane alot more...
Bane needs an entire trailer!!!!
I think the teaser did enough, if nothing else I'm sure it will have the audience thinking "who the hell is this scary ****er."
Donut
07-13-2011, 02:39 PM
Even the Harry Potter trailers used "The Epic Conclusion"
Lasirius
07-13-2011, 02:39 PM
I liked it but that's it. I feel like I need to watch in in HD since I can't really tell what Gordon is saying and the last scene is very dark to figure out what's going on.
Sith Scotti
07-13-2011, 02:39 PM
Trailers show far too much footage anyways . People need to realize teasers should be just that .
Alex Logan
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
Because Harry Potter will be the highest grossing movie of the year and to even make people aware there is a sequel coming out and a tiny fraction of a storyline works wonders. Why not release something? All WB really had to do was something similiar to what the did for TDK teaser. You're lucky you got any footage.
Potter is going to have a tough time against Transformers. I would rather wait until December and get a half trailer.
Conebone69
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
So Conebone was a lier
Noo my uncles friends were liars... not me sir... not me
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
I think the teaser did enough, if nothing else I'm sure it will have the audience thinking "who the hell is this scary ****er."
:up:
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
Nolan didn't write the teaser, a marketing team did.
That's what I was about to state. I don't think the director has any control of the marketing scheme.
LegendaryCaleb
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
thats just WBs marketing team saying that everythings epic...its to get butts in the seat i guess....but im sure they dont need to say all that for them to come...
Secret_Riddle
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
I think the way gordon delivers even a "cheesy" line makes it work...You can hear the pain and desperation in his voice which just adds to the electricity in the teaser in my opinion.
Along with this, we're seeing a line out of context. Sometimes things are so complex or unthinkable that blatant and to the point labels like "evil" become the most meaningful methods of expression.
I would imagine this line comes somewhere around the latter half of the film, so let's just appreciate the fact that we're getting to see such a huge moment more than a year early.
Doc Samson
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
I'm sticking to what I've been saying, but I'm really not certain if Batman makes it out of this movie, either literally or figuratively. Bruce's whole point was to shake the citizens out of apathy.
If he somehow accomplishes that, and Gordon gets the Gotham police in check, I can see Wayne hanging it up, with the ability to come back if/when Gordon needs him.
Travesty
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
Not on the scale of TDK. BB had a brownish color tone to the film, but TDK had black/blue color tone, and TDK was way more epic than BB.
It's like after TDK, Nolan started using similar styles, like the epicness of Inception, same color tone.
Here is a better example
BB = The Prestige
TDK = Inception
BB and The Prestige doesn't not compare to TDK and Inception
EpicEpicEpicEPIC
Solidus
07-13-2011, 02:40 PM
Idk, a better teaser trailer? It was just poorly made in my opinion. And then it ends with "The epic conclusion" Really? Nolan is just going more and more hollywood
Ya Begins was the most Hollywood out of all of them, he's actually gotten to push more and more away from control of the studios. I mean Inception? Hollywood? Nah.
thatsabadoutfit
07-13-2011, 02:41 PM
Yeah the last title card totally killed the teaser. They shoulda just ended it with that tease glimpse of Batman/Bane. The "epic conclusion" thing was just dumb.
Robin91939
07-13-2011, 02:41 PM
Thanks Secret Riddle.
I get where your going Robin91939. However I've seen Begins and TDK a thousand times and I don't think I ever heard the Scarecrow say ""Not my diagnosis"
and say ah ha...thats from Batman Begins.
Bigger things like the inmates being loose, the talismen that bruce and rachel shared, and actual reference to the los of shadows, maybe even saying the words, Ras or los shadows once were things that stood out in my mind.
I'm sure I could dig out some phrases from Batman 89 and compare them to Batman forever or Batman and robin,,and again..maybe those films were connected...but to me, they didn't feel that way...as bb and tdk didn't feel that way to me. Someone argued that well...they didn't mention los or ras in the film, but the presence was there. I find that a pretty hard argument to defend to the average movie goer that saw tdk. I'm doubtful anyone walked out of tdk, even those that watched bb quite a bit and said...wow...los is still strong in gotham.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-66a3NMKNs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-66a3NMKNs
2:42 :doh:
-R
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:41 PM
Trailers show far too much footage anyways . People need to realize teasers should be just that .
This.
I'm not suggesting everyone should love this trailer to bits - and if you don't think it works as a teaser, fine. But people seem to be put out because...there wasn't enough footage.
No ****. It's a teaser.
Avengers-Report
07-13-2011, 02:42 PM
A little disappointed with the teaser. Seems more like a cheap way to get people to remember Begins. And the new footage was great, but the hospital bed scene is a little slow to get me pumped for a trailer. The teaser should have focused on Bane. And "Evil Rises" was a little lame.
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:42 PM
I think the teaser did enough, if nothing else I'm sure it will have the audience thinking "who the hell is this scary ****er."
Agreed. The casual fan is unaware of Bane -- let's hope Nolan distrubed their sense of reality :awesome:
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 02:42 PM
I haven't seen it yet but they should have used "The Final Chapter" instead.
Perhaps, but I personally think "the final chapter" is used too much.
I think epic works just fine well because.......
....it's BATMAN!!!
'nuff said.
Yurka
07-13-2011, 02:42 PM
There's not a "high res" version but there is one with higher res, and it fills up my screen.
Facebook, dudes...Facebook. This is why you friend SHHers before the big day. :cwink:
And if not, at least Twitter. :oldrazz:
:up: :awesome:
Potter is going to have a tough time against Transformers. I would rather wait until December and get a half trailer.
potter has 5,000 sellouts already on fandango... more than any other 2011 film... theaters are adding more and more screenings...
Warner Bros. Pictures announced today that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 has broken the advance ticket sales record with more than $32 million already.
its going to destroy transformers... worldwide its not even a competition... domestically, transformers may beat it... but world-wide... its going to go easily past 1 billion.
That's what I was about to state. I don't think the director has any control of the marketing scheme.
I don't think even Nolan gets much (if any) say in the marketing. The studio has an entire department for advertisement, it wouldn't make much sense for them to have their directors spend their time on cutting together trailers.
That's why I never get too upset over trailers, they were made by people who were simply handed footage and told 'here, make this look good to as many people as you can'
Conebone69
07-13-2011, 02:43 PM
Ya Begins was the most Hollywood out of all of them, he's actually gotten to push more and more away from control of the studios. I mean Inception? Hollywood? Nah.
How the **** was Begins hollywood at all?
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:43 PM
Agreed. The casual fan is unaware of Bane -- let's hope Nolan distrubed their sense of reality :awesome:
Normally I don't care, but I really would be interested in the audience reactions to this teaser at the weekend.
Anita18
07-13-2011, 02:43 PM
So much for the teaser, total waste of time. If that's all they had, why even release it?
:wall:
Cause it's WB and they wanted something to go in front of HP7. :oldrazz:
the teaser alone was better than all the teaser trailers this year
I think Fincher's Girl with the Dragon Tattoo takes it, at least for the awesome music and typography.
Idk, a better teaser trailer? It was just poorly made in my opinion. And then it ends with "The epic conclusion" Really? Nolan is just going more and more hollywood
Nolan does not have say with the trailer editing, WB does them in-house. I know Wally Pfister was brought in to do color timing on TDK's first theatrical trailer, but that's probably the extent of involvement from the film crew once they give WB the footage they have.
Nolan has better things to do, like the ya know, shooting the film itself. :o
thatsabadoutfit
07-13-2011, 02:43 PM
Potter is going to have a tough time against Transformers. I would rather wait until December and get a half trailer.
Harry Potter will outperform Transformers in long-term box office and repeat viewings. Even in the chance it doesn't, there will be no movie this year that comes out that will have the attendence as this movie will have. It's smart marketing and its getting the message out that the movie is in production and will be out next summer.
Robin9139
If you read the rest, I didn't say I never heard Scarecrow/Crane say that, I said I never heard him say it in tdk and say..wow..what a reference to BB
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:44 PM
The movie doesn't come out for another year. I'm sure we'll get some Bane-based promos before then.
:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot: I can't wait for that day to arrive.
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:45 PM
I think Fincher's Girl with the Dragon Tattoo takes it, at least for the awesome music and typography.
I agree, but TDKR is a worthy second. :up:
BTW, what is that music? I've been meaning to look it up.
Nolan does not have say with the trailer editing, WB does them in-house. I know Wally Pfister was brought in to do color timing on TDK's first theatrical trailer, but that's probably the extent of involvement from the film crew once they give WB the footage they have.
Nolan has better things to do, like the ya know, shooting the film itself. :o
:funny:
Doc Samson
07-13-2011, 02:45 PM
Normally I don't care, but I really would be interested in the audience reactions to this teaser at the weekend.
This is why I can't wait for a bootleg with the audible audience reactions, it's priceless and a good barometer for the trailer's real effectiveness, much more so than sour puss SHH members :cwink:
jazzmatik
07-13-2011, 02:46 PM
Perhaps, but I personally think "the final chapter" is used too much.
I think epic works just fine well because.......
....it's BATMAN!!!
'nuff said.
Haha that's true, just as long as the movie lives up to that word.
Kane52630
07-13-2011, 02:46 PM
This.
I'm not suggesting everyone should love this trailer to bits - and if you don't think it works as a teaser, fine. But people seem to be put out because...there wasn't enough footage.
No ****. It's a teaser.
Now if only the actual trailer is as secretive and non-spoilery as this, then I'll be impressed. I want trailers for big films to follow more like what Super 8 did with its trailer, but It won't happen. oh well :csad:
hulk24
07-13-2011, 02:46 PM
so i've seen the bootleg while it is a good trailer I wasn't left feeling like omg I have to see that! I'm reserving my judgment for the next trailer but so far Im just feeling blah about this movie. I have a strange feeling they are just knocking out a batman movie casue its in their contract and none of them want to do it anymore. I've been reading all the news I was excited then the poster came out and before I saw it i was extremely excited, then I saw it and i was like oh okay then. Same for the trailer and I was just left feeling underwhelmed. maybe if they showed catwoman or action or something it would have made me excited but so far it just seems like a movie thats coming out next year not holy **** its the last batman movie in the trilogy! omg i cant wait but like I said I'll reserve my judgement till the full trailer cause so far it looks like nolan dropped the ball and this movie is falling under the 3rd movie curse
Yeah the last title card totally killed the teaser. They shoulda just ended it with that tease glimpse of Batman/Bane. The "epic conclusion" thing was just dumb.
Agreed. "The epic conclusion to the Dark Knight legend"?
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:47 PM
I don't think even Nolan gets much (if any) say in the marketing. The studio has an entire department for advertisement, it wouldn't make much sense for them to have their directors spend their time on cutting together trailers.
That's why I never get too upset over trailers, they were made by people who were simply handed footage and told 'here, make this look good to as many people as you can'
Exactly, as soon as I reminded myself that Nolan had no control over the making of the teaser -- I chilled :word:
I'm enjoying it for what it truly is... a sneak peak.
Robin91939
07-13-2011, 02:47 PM
Robin9139
If you read the rest, I didn't say I never heard Scarecrow/Crane say that, I said I never heard him say it in tdk and say..wow..what a reference to BB
Misread, sorry.
I just took a quote from Scarecrow because HIM being in The Dark Knight is a reference to Batman Begins.....as he was....the villain from the film.
The fact that he is now the main dealer of drugs in Gotham and a full out criminal speaks to the escalation foreshadowed in Batman Begins.
-R
ronny
07-13-2011, 02:48 PM
Batman backing away from Bane has a definite Knightfall vibe to it. Remember when Bane just appeared in Wayne Manor and Bruce looked ready to roll over and die? I get the same feeling here.
Joker was a mad dog, Two-Face was a twisted false prophet but now he fights someone who is not simply insane, a man who is on his level physically and mentally but the kind of cut-throat savagery you only get after a lifetime spent in jail.
The idea of Bale's Batman being terrified of Bane is very, very interesting. The hunter becomes the hunted.
*Whiplash*
07-13-2011, 02:48 PM
I like the ''Evil Rises'' part from Gordon.
It's much better than him saying ''Well Batman, a massive bald guy with a mask is coming to destroy Gotham!''
thanks for the PM's.... hard to tell what Gordon is saying....i made out everything besides the end...Humor me, humor? wtf?
cant wait to see a clear picture of batman scared of bane.
Solidus
07-13-2011, 02:48 PM
How the **** was Begins hollywood at all?
First, the word Hollywood is something that people try to use as...what lame?
Begins was a studio controlled film, they made Nolan include Rachael into his plot, and I have a feeling Katie was not his choice. Goyer had more control of the script as well, and a lot of his dialouge and so forth suffers from it.
TDK was more violent visceral, and unrelenting in a way. And Inception.....ya I doubt many studios if it was not Nolan would have let some one make that film, it was a risk and half. Original sci-fi's that are that complex? Usually that is not common anymore.
Honestly I don't think any of his films are Hollywood to be truthful with you. But if we are to say which one had more studio control? I think Begins had some more of those moments.
But honestly Begins, TDK, Inception all wonderful blockbusters that are unique enough not to be called Hollywood. Am I saying Begins is worse? No they are all unique wonderful films, awesome films some of the best, but I think saying they are more Hollywood in itself is a cliche statement of those that don't like things that get popular. Nolan's staying true to his core, but its just the fact his stuff is gaining in popularity.
And ya....putting epic in a trailer (the marketing team) just means the film is going to be Hollywood, are you for reals? Ya its a cliche line, but pff, does not reflect the damn film at all.
*Whiplash*
07-13-2011, 02:49 PM
thanks for the PM's.... hard to tell what Gordon is saying....i made out everything besides the end...Humor me, humor? wtf?
He actually says: ''He must...he must''.
:yay:
Miranda Fox
07-13-2011, 02:50 PM
thanks for the PM's.... hard to tell what Gordon is saying....i made out everything besides the end...Humor me, humor? wtf?
cant wait to see a clear picture of batman scared of bane.
Gordon is saying "he must, he must."
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:50 PM
Normally I don't care, but I really would be interested in the audience reactions to this teaser at the weekend.
Me too. I got extreme chills when I saw Bane :wow:
I wonder how the audience will react when Bane lurches his way over to Bats...
hegele
07-13-2011, 02:51 PM
I'm sticking to what I've been saying, but I'm really not certain if Batman makes it out of this movie, either literally or figuratively. Bruce's whole point was to shake the citizens out of apathy.
If he somehow accomplishes that, and Gordon gets the Gotham police in check, I can see Wayne hanging it up, with the ability to come back if/when Gordon needs him.
I agree I wouldn't at all be surprised if Bruce/Btman dies in this film. It is the conclusion after all. I've always found that Batman was the hero that scared criminals out of crime and Superman was the hero that shaked good people out of apathy. With this series I think Batman can end up doing both.
DorkyFresh
07-13-2011, 02:51 PM
thanks for the PM's.... hard to tell what Gordon is saying....i made out everything besides the end...Humor me, humor? wtf?
for the life of me i can't understand why people think he says "humor me"....
...he's saying "he must........he must"
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 02:51 PM
thanks for the PM's.... hard to tell what Gordon is saying....i made out everything besides the end...Humor me, humor? wtf?
cant wait to see a clear picture of batman scared of bane.
He says "he must....he will"
I do totally understand the connection or nod to Begins by having Scarecrow in tdk, but to me that scene was more or less a way to introduce the Batman character in the film. Same way they did the bank heist to introduce joker and the same way they used to do the small action scenes at the beginning of bond films years ago.
I guess all i'm saying is so far, TDKR seems to be alot more connected to BB (showing old footage, voice overs) then they tried to connect TDK. Just my opinion though apparently :)
BatSpider
07-13-2011, 02:51 PM
so i've seen the bootleg while it is a good trailer I wasn't left feeling like omg I have to see that! I'm reserving my judgment for the next trailer but so far Im just feeling blah about this movie. I have a strange feeling they are just knocking out a batman movie casue its in their contract and none of them want to do it anymore. I've been reading all the news I was excited then the poster came out and before I saw it i was extremely excited, then I saw it and i was like oh okay then. Same for the trailer and I was just left feeling underwhelmed. maybe if they showed catwoman or action or something it would have made me excited but so far it just seems like a movie thats coming out next year not holy **** its the last batman movie in the trilogy! omg i cant wait but like I said I'll reserve my judgement till the full trailer cause so far it looks like nolan dropped the ball and this movie is falling under the 3rd movie curse
What an amazing analysis from just seeing the bootleg teaser of the movie!!!
:dry:
joker1524
07-13-2011, 02:52 PM
so i've seen the bootleg while it is a good trailer I wasn't left feeling like omg I have to see that! I'm reserving my judgment for the next trailer but so far Im just feeling blah about this movie. I have a strange feeling they are just knocking out a batman movie casue its in their contract and none of them want to do it anymore. I've been reading all the news I was excited then the poster came out and before I saw it i was extremely excited, then I saw it and i was like oh okay then. Same for the trailer and I was just left feeling underwhelmed. maybe if they showed catwoman or action or something it would have made me excited but so far it just seems like a movie thats coming out next year not holy **** its the last batman movie in the trilogy! omg i cant wait but like I said I'll reserve my judgement till the full trailer cause so far it looks like nolan dropped the ball and this movie is falling under the 3rd movie curse
so from a poster and teaser trailer u think its got the 3rd movie curse?
Secret_Riddle
07-13-2011, 02:52 PM
so i've seen the bootleg while it is a good trailer I wasn't left feeling like omg I have to see that! I'm reserving my judgment for the next trailer but so far Im just feeling blah about this movie. I have a strange feeling they are just knocking out a batman movie casue its in their contract and none of them want to do it anymore. I've been reading all the news I was excited then the poster came out and before I saw it i was extremely excited, then I saw it and i was like oh okay then. Same for the trailer and I was just left feeling underwhelmed. maybe if they showed catwoman or action or something it would have made me excited but so far it just seems like a movie thats coming out next year not holy **** its the last batman movie in the trilogy! omg i cant wait but like I said I'll reserve my judgement till the full trailer cause so far it looks like nolan dropped the ball and this movie is falling under the 3rd movie curse
I like this judgment. It's informed, intelligent and reserved. With respect to your final statement in particular, I too have similar feelings. Especially after seeing not 1, not 2, NOT EVEN 3 but a grand total of 4 new shots and a couple lines of dialogue.
:oldrazz:
coderaven24
07-13-2011, 02:52 PM
Batman Begins.
Holding the dude on the Car as batman saying "Nice Coat".
its time my enemies share my dread, "you have no enemies, you haven;t even been Batman yet"
That was all Goyer.
Yurka
07-13-2011, 02:53 PM
As is the case with almost all Nolan's films, these takes might be slightly different from the ones used in the final product.
Kynergy
07-13-2011, 02:53 PM
I know some people are upset that others are hating on the trailer, but I think there are good enough reasons to dislike the teaser.
- Title Cards. The Epic Conlusion? Really, it just sounds so cheesy to me.
- Bad editing. The whole thing just seemed like a mess.
- The lack of logo. Just TDKR on a white background? They could have at least put a bat logo behind it.
- The poster in the trailer. Just looked stupid to some, and it seemed out of place. I think it would have been better if it was all at once, instead of broken up. And a little shorter.
I loved all the footage, that was fine. Gordon in the hospital? Gives me chills. It was just the execution that has some people disliking it, or at least me. It for sure got me pumped for Bane, and I'm excited for the movie.
Doc Samson
07-13-2011, 02:53 PM
I agree I wouldn't at all be surprised if Bruce/Btman dies in this film. It is the conclusion after all. I've always found that Batman was the hero that scared criminals out of crime and Superman was the hero that shaked good people out of apathy. With this series I think Batman can end up doing both.
Yeah, and the tone was extremely dour, not even TDK had that type of feeling to it, for any of it's trailers. They went out of their way to stress the finality of it all, and like I've said from the start, I'm sure Nolan will want to end this in a way that makes it impossible for WB to make direct sequels.
Hunter Rider
07-13-2011, 02:54 PM
Nolan has used the teaser to really set the tone of Gotham needing Batman which of course links to the title. Surprised we see Gordon in the state he's in unless it happens early in the movie. The final shot is hard to see in this version but is certainly reminiscent of Alien.
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:54 PM
Call me insane (and it's nothing against TDK) but I actually enjoyed BB alot more. It was beautiful and awe-spiring.
Conebone69
07-13-2011, 02:54 PM
First, the word Hollywood is something that people try to use as...what lame?
Begins was a studio controlled film, they made Nolan include Rachael into his plot, and I have a feeling Katie was not his choice. Goyer had more control of the script as well, and a lot of his dialouge and so forth suffers from it.
TDK was more violent visceral, and unrelenting in a way. And Inception.....ya I doubt many studios if it was not Nolan would have let some one make that film, it was a risk and half. Original sci-fi's that are that complex? Usually that is not common anymore.
Honestly I don't think any of his films are Hollywood to be truthful with you. But if we are to say which one had more studio control? I think Begins had some more of those moments.
But honestly Begins, TDK, Inception all wonderful blockbusters that are unique enough not to be called Hollywood. Am I saying Begins is worse? No they are all unique wonderful films, awesome films some of the best, but I think saying they are more Hollywood in itself is a cliche statement of those that don't like things that get popular. Nolan's staying true to his core, but its just the fact his stuff is gaining in popularity.
And ya....putting epic in a trailer (the marketing team) just means the film is going to be Hollywood, are you for reals? Ya its a cliche line, but pff, does not reflect the damn film at all.
Hollywood meaning like big action blockbuster, like transformers is a hollwood film. Begins in my opinion was the least hollywood out of the series
Im pumped to see new footage but im just sayin, I myself could probably put together a better teaser
Carnotaur3
07-13-2011, 02:55 PM
People need to get over the fact that there wasn't that much footage (even those more than half of the trailer is new stuff) and just look at the full piece. The way they put it together is a text book example on everything that is great about trailers of its kind. This is not a Hollywood trailer at all. It's "being something more!"
Secret Fawful
07-13-2011, 02:56 PM
so i've seen the bootleg while it is a good trailer I wasn't left feeling like omg I have to see that! I'm reserving my judgment for the next trailer but so far Im just feeling blah about this movie. I have a strange feeling they are just knocking out a batman movie casue its in their contract and none of them want to do it anymore. I've been reading all the news I was excited then the poster came out and before I saw it i was extremely excited, then I saw it and i was like oh okay then. Same for the trailer and I was just left feeling underwhelmed. maybe if they showed catwoman or action or something it would have made me excited but so far it just seems like a movie thats coming out next year not holy **** its the last batman movie in the trilogy! omg i cant wait but like I said I'll reserve my judgement till the full trailer cause so far it looks like nolan dropped the ball and this movie is falling under the 3rd movie curse
:dry:No.
Anyway, I loved the teaser. It looked good to me. Bane scares the hell out of me. I guess I'm just not very picky, though.
Anita18
07-13-2011, 02:56 PM
I agree I wouldn't at all be surprised if Bruce/Btman dies in this film. It is the conclusion after all. I've always found that Batman was the hero that scared criminals out of crime and Superman was the hero that shaked good people out of apathy. With this series I think Batman can end up doing both.
I actually hope they have the balls to do it, just to see what people's reactions would be. :hehe:
Blue Sugar
07-13-2011, 02:57 PM
"It'll be nice when Wayne Manor's rebuilt...you can swap not sleeping in a penthouse, for not sleeping in a mansion".
- Alfred Pennyworth, reference to Ra's Al Ghul burning down Wayne Manor in Batman Begins
"You once told me, if the day came when I was finished, we'd be together...did you mean it?"
- Bruce Wayne, reference to Rachel's speech to Bruce at the end of Batman Begins
"With Carmine Falcone in Arkham, someone must have stepped up to run the so called 'family'...is that man in this court room today?"
- Harvey Dent, reference from Carmine Falcone
"The man, Salvatore Maroni is the head of the Falcone crime family".
- Harvey Dent, reference to the Carmine Falcone
"Not my diagnosis"
- Jonathan Crane, villain from Batman Begins
"That's wasn't exactly what I had in mind when I said I wanted to inspire people".
- Bruce Wayne, referencing conversation with Alfred on plane in Batman Begins
"I was meant to inspire good, not madness, not death."
- Bruce Wayne, referencing conversation with Alfred on plane in Batman Begins
"You aren't going to tell me you didn't recognize your baby pancaking cop cars on the evening news."
- Coleman Reese, referencing chase from Batman Begins
These are just off the top of my head, and are all references to Batman Begins in The Dark Knight. There are PLENTY in there...it's not a loose sequel like Batman Forever... It's a complete continuation of the story.
-R
Almost too great of a post.
Seriously, I think this might go down as my overall favorite movie trilogy ever. One OT Star Wars stands in the way.
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 02:57 PM
People need to get over the fact that there wasn't that much footage (even those more than half of the trailer is new stuff) and just look at the full piece. The way they put it together is a text book example on everything that is great about trailers of its kind. This is not a Hollywood trailer at all. It's "being something more!"
Lol I can just imagine alfred saying that.
"it's not being a trailer, it's being something more!"
Conebone69
07-13-2011, 02:57 PM
Kinda seemed like it was almost thrown together
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 02:57 PM
I love how people are starting to doubt Nolan all over again...
i am so sorry my ears aren't as great as yours dorky. lol
anyways i wonder how long batman has been gone, and how long it will take for him to show up in TDKR... hopefully we dont have to wait 75 min to see bats again.
Heisenberg
07-13-2011, 02:58 PM
So everyone is entirely impatient and are clawing for any footage, no, information for the film. They then release a teaser, with footage (unlike TDK) and the response is... not enough footage? Does no-one remember 24 hours ago when they wanted even the slighest scrap of information, let alone footage?
I like the call-back to Batman Begins, I like the Ra's narration, I love that the focus lies on Gordon and more specifically his relationship with Bruce/Batman... and we get to see a glimpse at Bane. Honestly, I don't know what anyone else expected. I'm excited for the film. Looking at the teaser, we could have easily had a 30-second Gordon/Bruce voiceover with a quick still-image flash of Bane at the end ala. TDK, but we got something, which makes me happy.
TassaElamaOn
07-13-2011, 02:59 PM
Just saw the teaser. It's going to be special. Like, I may retire from movie watching after seeing it. The last few seconds, with Batman backing away from Bane with that 'oh shCHILDREN?t' expression? on his face, will easily carry me over the next year.
Kane52630
07-13-2011, 02:59 PM
I know some people are upset that others are hating on the trailer, but I think there are good enough reasons to dislike the teaser.
- Title Cards. The Epic Conlusion? Really, it just sounds so cheesy to me.
- Bad editing. The whole thing just seemed like a mess.
- The lack of logo. Just TDKR on a white background? They could have at least put a bat logo behind it.
- The poster in the trailer. Just looked stupid to some, and it seemed out of place. I think it would have been better if it was all at once, instead of broken up. And a little shorter.
I loved all the footage, that was fine. Gordon in the hospital? Gives me chills. It was just the execution that has some people disliking it, or at least me. It for sure got me pumped for Bane, and I'm excited for the movie.
I still have no idea why people say having something being cheesy is a bad thing. Cheese is always good if it's not trying too hard and this doesn't look cheesy.
Nolan has used the teaser to really set the tone of Gotham needing Batman which of course links to the title. Surprised we see Gordon in the state he's in unless it happens early in the movie. The final shot is hard to see in this version but is certainly reminiscent of Alien.
Yeah that last shot looks really something, nothing like in TDK or BB. I hope the way he shoots it is totally different from those two films.
Doc Samson
07-13-2011, 02:59 PM
:dry:No.
Anyway, I loved the teaser. It looked good to me. Bane scares the hell out of me. I guess I'm just not very picky, though.
That was the greatest thing of the whole trailer, even though it was brief. The music along with Batman's reaction leads me to believe Bane might be the most terrifying villain yet.
Symbiotic
07-13-2011, 02:59 PM
If Batman dies in this film, then dammit, I don't want Bane to still have a heartbeat at the end of it.
joker1524
07-13-2011, 02:59 PM
i honestly didnt expect much from a teaser trailer at all but this trailer for what it was really set the mood...i think people were expecting a full length trailer with tons of new footage but teasers arent made for that...the TDK teaser was great too but it was hard to set any tone for that one because of just hearing voices and seeing a bat symbol but the teaser was a sign of things to expect in TDK...TDKR looks like it will be a pretty sad and tragic story...thats the vibe i'm getting from the teaser alone...and honestly i didnt like the tag lines at the end but meh
Blue Sugar
07-13-2011, 03:01 PM
The teaser trailer direction in itself IS disjointed and messy. But no one can deny the brilliance of the new footage.
byte19
07-13-2011, 03:01 PM
I Have Just Seen Liquid Gold.... next year's 200th viewing will be as awe-inspiring as the first...
Yurka
07-13-2011, 03:01 PM
Every time we get a teaser, I wonder what some people expected.
This works perfectly as a teaser, it sets the tone, and wets your appetite a little bit. These arent supposed to be 2:00 minutes of action-packed trailers trying to sell you then and there. These are supposed to show people that this movie is coming out sometime in the fairly distant future, and a vague look at what you can expect. I prefer this teaser to TDK's and I thought that one worked extremely well.
Anita18
07-13-2011, 03:01 PM
Kinda seemed like it was almost thrown together
Well we do know WB really wanted something to go in front of HP7 and maybe Nolan hadn't shot that much trailer-y stuff by then. :oldrazz:
*Whiplash*
07-13-2011, 03:01 PM
I suppose we all have our views on what it should be like.
Monday is the official release right?
We'll get a clearer view of everything visually but I guess some people are unhappy with the dialogue and/or references to the past movies taking up so much time.
I am looking forward to the movie and have full faith in Nolan delivering an excellent ending to his trilogy.
Solidus
07-13-2011, 03:02 PM
Hollywood meaning like big action blockbuster, like transformers is a hollwood film. Begins in my opinion was the least hollywood out of the series
Im pumped to see new footage but im just sayin, I myself could probably put together a better teaser
Begins:
Love interest find out who hero is, his true self, tells him she is here for him.
Hero has a happy ending.
The Dark Knight:
Love interest is brutally killed because of the heroes actions.
Hero does not have a happy ending, everyone hates him, he is on the run from the cops and has a bleak ending with maybe a pinch of hope.
To me one sounds a tad more used then the other.
But irregardless both are amazing incredible films.
Bat-Gasm
07-13-2011, 03:02 PM
Can someone transcribe what is said in the trailer?
My favorite link from TDK to BB was when Bruce said, "A criminal is not complicated" to Alfred which is what Ra's told him in Begins.
TheFuture
07-13-2011, 03:02 PM
The final shot is hard to see in this version but is certainly reminiscent of Alien.
Interesting take Hunter, what makes it reminiscent of Alien for ya?
Secret_Riddle
07-13-2011, 03:04 PM
The teaser trailer direction in itself IS disjointed and messy. But no one can deny the brilliance of the new footage.
This.
It's not a bad teaser..a bit sloppily put together...but as soon as the hospital scene begins, it's fairly breathtaking.
But let's face it, Warner Bros doesn't get points for being idealists. They have to do the best they can with what they have.
Heh.
Anyone? Anyone??
Nevincer
07-13-2011, 03:04 PM
If Batman dies in this film, then dammit, I don't want Bane to still have a heartbeat at the end of it.
Agreed.
rashad
07-13-2011, 03:04 PM
so i've seen the bootleg while it is a good trailer I wasn't left feeling like omg I have to see that! I'm reserving my judgment for the next trailer but so far Im just feeling blah about this movie. I have a strange feeling they are just knocking out a batman movie casue its in their contract and none of them want to do it anymore. I've been reading all the news I was excited then the poster came out and before I saw it i was extremely excited, then I saw it and i was like oh okay then. Same for the trailer and I was just left feeling underwhelmed. maybe if they showed catwoman or action or something it would have made me excited but so far it just seems like a movie thats coming out next year not holy **** its the last batman movie in the trilogy! omg i cant wait but like I said I'll reserve my judgement till the full trailer cause so far it looks like nolan dropped the ball and this movie is falling under the 3rd movie curse
http://i.imgur.com/eWiw7.gif (http://imgur.com/eWiw7)
Heisenberg
07-13-2011, 03:05 PM
Can someone transcribe what is said in the trailer?
My favorite link from TDK to BB was when Bruce said, "A criminal is not complicated" to Alfred which is what Ra's told him in Begins.
Gordon: We were in this together. Then you were gone. Now there is evil, rising... The Batman has to come back.
Bruce: What if he doesn't exist anymore?
Gordon: He must... He must...
Kynergy
07-13-2011, 03:06 PM
Every time we get a teaser, I wonder what some people expected.
This works perfectly as a teaser, it sets the tone, and wets your appetite a little bit. These arent supposed to be 2:00 minutes of action-packed trailers trying to sell you then and there. These are supposed to show people that this movie is coming out sometime in the fairly distant future, and a vague look at what you can expect. I prefer this teaser to TDK's and I thought that one worked extremely well.
Maybe I haven't been following the board enough today. It's been moving way to fast :oldrazz:. But I haven't seen many complaints about the lack of action footage. Most complaints I have seen are about the bad editing and the rushed look of it all. I think the ending scene with Bane was enough, it got me excited. I like how this movie is going to be so much darker than the last two. :woot:
Nevincer
07-13-2011, 03:06 PM
Interesting take Hunter, what makes it reminiscent of Alien for ya?
I've never seen Alien so I'm really not informed enough to say this, but wasn't the original Alien (as opposed to it's sequels) supposed to be like a horror movie in a sense? Like the whole 'menace' of one single character/creature coming to get the characters? But yeah, that's the feeling I'm getting from Bane, definitely.
Secret Fawful
07-13-2011, 03:06 PM
Can someone transcribe what is said in the trailer?
Gordon: Bane sold me drugs and I OD'd!
Bane (walking toward Batman): I'm gonna break you mother****er!
(just kidding:oldrazz:)
byte19
07-13-2011, 03:06 PM
hulk24.... in a Batman thread.... cue rim-shot.
Nevincer
07-13-2011, 03:07 PM
http://i.imgur.com/eWiw7.gif (http://imgur.com/eWiw7)
:hehe::hehe::hehe: Awesome gif!!
Doc Samson
07-13-2011, 03:07 PM
The main thing I want to see once we get the HD version is if Bane is, in fact, growing at the end, or just getting up?
*Whiplash*
07-13-2011, 03:07 PM
But let's face it, Warner Bros doesn't get points for being idealists. They have to do the best they can with what they have.
Heh.
Anyone? Anyone??
:funny:
I liked it. Well done.
nachtschicht
07-13-2011, 03:08 PM
Ohhh, found it (thanks for the PM's though :hrt: ). I like it...
http://i.imgur.com/FXV0u.gif
...I've calmed down now. But I still like it, even the chanting :awesome:
And fff new thread. I miss errthing
Rodrigo90
07-13-2011, 03:08 PM
That scene between Gordon and Batman...I'm guessing that was Bruce with the black mask on, sitting outside the window in the set pictures.
SchumacherFan
07-13-2011, 03:09 PM
Trailer opens with studio logos set on top of the blue flame from Dark Knight.
Start panning up some buildings, cut to screen card. EVERY HERO HAS A JOURNEY.
Cuts to a shot from "Begins" with Bruce walking up to that Village when he's looking for Ra's Al Ghul.
Screen Card: EVERY HERO HAS AN END
Ra's voice over: "If you make yourself more than just a man. If you devout yourself to be ideal. And you become something else entirely. A legend Mr. Wayne... A LEGEND!"
Screen Card: THE EPIC CONCLUSION
Cut to Gordon in a hospital bed laying on his side. Looks to be in serious pain. Has a breathing mask on. He's talking to someone.
Gordon: "We were in this together, then you were gone... Now this Evil rises. The Batman... HAS to come back." (All this is said in a very raspy voice, in much pain.)
Bruce/Batman (its not shown who he's talking to, so don't know in which form Bruce is visiting him in. My guess would be as Bruce Wayne): "What if he doesn't exist anymore?"
This part is the hardest to understand in the entire trailer. I listened to it at least 10 times but the score is over powering here and Gordon is having trouble talking. It sounds like if says "Humor me" while trying to laugh. I might be wrong here, full disclosure.
During this quick talk we're shown a shot of the bat cycle when it drives up the ramp from "Dark Knight," Gordon destroying the Bat Signal all cut in with the Hospital. As well as super fast flashes of Bane's face.
Pan up crumbling buildings to reveal the teaser poster, the camera zooms to the white opening and on an all white screen the title appears. The score reaches a fever pitch before turning over to The chanting from the website.
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES
Fades to black and then we see Batman backing away from something, then Bane enters from the left side of the screen. Very quick shot, then the trailer is done.
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Not a very good trailer. I love the poster for the film. But the 'epic conclusion' angle they are using to sell the movie is cheesy and not a good idea. This isn't Star Wars Episode 3 here. It's a Batman film. We just want to see the bad guys.
I'm assuming Bane breaks Gordon's back in this film. And they are playing this film off as the last Batman film before a lame reboot...
Kynergy
07-13-2011, 03:10 PM
I've never seen Alien so I'm really not informed enough to say this, but wasn't the original Alien (as opposed to it's sequels) supposed to be like a horror movie in a sense? Like the whole 'menace' of one single character/creature coming to get the characters? But yeah, that's the feeling I'm getting from Bane, definitely.
Ya, it was horror movie like that. I am getting the same feeling as well from that last scene, Bane seems terrifying.
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 03:10 PM
Here's my explanation of disliking the Teaser at first:
I would love to blame myself for building and hyping this teaser trailer into something more than just a teaser... BUT that wasn't the case. What really shook my foundation was the way the trailer was handled by the marketing team.
Granted, the filming process just started a couple of months ago but, in my opinion, I think WB should have waited (in terms of more footage) or done a teaser similar to TDK's -- a voice over with the buildings crumbling from above.
Yet, I am content with what I have now, so there.
raybia
07-13-2011, 03:11 PM
I have been away for over a month. So what's new?
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 03:11 PM
Alfred: "It's not being a teaser, it's being something MOAR"
Rachel: "Yea, your absolutely right, that trailer was not epic at all."
Alfred: "No, Rachel that's not what I me-"
Rachel: "Goodbye Alfred"
**BOOM!***
Rachel dies...
*Whiplash*
07-13-2011, 03:13 PM
Alfred: "It's not being a teaser, it's being something MOAR"
Rachel: "Yea, your absolutely right, that trailer was not epic at all."
Alfred: "No, Rachel that's not what I me-"
Rachel: "Goodbye Alfred"
**BOOM!***
Rachel dies...
Come to think of it, Rachel was a bit of a **** to Alfred!
byte19
07-13-2011, 03:13 PM
hey raybia! teaser leaked... wasn't "epic" enough... more viewings for me.. :)
Blue Sugar
07-13-2011, 03:14 PM
I've said it before and it is only one line. But damn Bale IS Bruce Wayne/Batman. The hopelessness and sense of failure in just his whispering questioning of himself in "What if he doesn't exist?" is pure brilliance.
FCEEVIPER
07-13-2011, 03:14 PM
Teaser till Monday? Damn, I might have to to the theater on Friday, buy a ticket for HP, watch the trailer, get my money back. Thank you very much. :D
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 03:15 PM
I hated Rachel.
No one leaves the Goddamn Batman :argh:
raybia
07-13-2011, 03:17 PM
hey raybia! teaser leaked... wasn't "epic" enough... more viewings for me.. :)
Not epic enough? Damn, the magic is gone. Looks like TDKR will be the ROTJ of the series. :cwink:
miggizle85
07-13-2011, 03:17 PM
Seen it a few dozen more times and it's kinda growing on me. Especially when I take a close look at the new footage. Especially the climbing out of a well scene (damn that looks good). Teaser still feels rushed tho, because no doubt it was rushed. That's on WB not the filmmakers. They wanted a trailer to go HP8 so this is what they get.
Does anyone else see Bane getting tackled on that face shot? He's standing there and then all of a sudden his face swiped quickly from left to right. Maybe it's just the way the cut was edited but I think it might be Bane getting his ass handed to him.
Rodrigo90
07-13-2011, 03:17 PM
Good Point.
People who have seen this trailer, should I try and find it, or Maybe I should wait for HD.
Yeah. I think its Bruce (in the Batman persona) going to visit Gordon at the hospital.
TassaElamaOn
07-13-2011, 03:18 PM
This wasn't anywhere near as disjointed or awkwardly paced as the TDK trailer from 12.07. While I watched that bad boy several thousand times, it still doesn't change my opinion that it was a total mess.
brb Joker talking, explosion, laughter that dint line with previous voice inflections, more explosions, choppy cuts of random lines thrown in for **** giggles, yet another explosion, and finally a great line followed by a fitting bout of laughter. What a mess. Just my opinion. I don't feel TDK has aged well at all. Begins, otoh, is a work of art..
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 03:18 PM
Seen it a few dozen more times and it's kinda growing on me. Especially when I take a close look at the new footage. Especially the climbing out of a well scene (damn that looks good). Teaser still feels rushed tho, because no doubt it was rushed. That's on WB not the filmmakers. They wanted a trailer to go HP8 so this is what they get.
Does anyone else see Bane getting tackled on that face shot? He's standing there and then all of a sudden his face swiped quickly from left to right. Maybe it's just the way the cut was edited but I think it might be Bane getting his ass handed to him.
That's just the editing.
MeenieWK
07-13-2011, 03:18 PM
Good Point.
People who have seen this trailer, should I try and find it, or Maybe I should wait for HD.
Tumblr isn't in it
vanson
07-13-2011, 03:19 PM
so this thing will friday officially be online !?
Blue Sugar
07-13-2011, 03:19 PM
See when it comes to Rachel, I never got any feelings for her feelings in any of the movies. But I really believed in the importance and the love Dent and Wayne had for her. Which was really all that mattered and made the core feeling of TDK work.
byte19
07-13-2011, 03:19 PM
Not epic enough? Damn, the magic is gone. Looks like TDKR will be the ROTJ of the series. :cwink:
well I died and came back.... I don't know what they was watchin'... ;)
TassaElamaOn
07-13-2011, 03:20 PM
I hated Rachel.
No one leaves the Goddamn Batman :argh:
Maybe Batman really meant get Harvey after all....
BBBBRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMM
Matt Mortem
07-13-2011, 03:20 PM
That teaser was something else. WOW. Can't wait to see a high def version
Batman137
07-13-2011, 03:20 PM
I think no that the teaser is out, I am gonna stay away from here. Just so I wont ruin anything for myself
redhawk23
07-13-2011, 03:20 PM
Begins:
Love interest find out who hero is, his true self, tells him she is here for him.
Hero has a happy ending.
The Dark Knight:
Love interest is brutally killed because of the heroes actions.
Hero does not have a happy ending, everyone hates him, he is on the run from the cops and has a bleak ending with maybe a pinch of hope.
To me one sounds a tad more used then the other.
But irregardless both are amazing incredible films.
THAT IS NOT A WORD.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2009/02/angry-christian-bale-screams-shouts.jpg
Sorry, that is one of my biggest pet peeves.
Veidt
07-13-2011, 03:20 PM
This trailer could have been Christopher Nolan farting into a tin can for 30 seconds and I'd still be there in line on 20th July 2012.
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 03:21 PM
Seen it a few dozen more times and it's kinda growing on me. Especially when I take a close look at the new footage. Especially the climbing out of a well scene (damn that looks good). Teaser still feels rushed tho, because no doubt it was rushed. That's on WB not the filmmakers. They wanted a trailer to go HP8 so this is what they get.
Does anyone else see Bane getting tackled on that face shot? He's standing there and then all of a sudden his face swiped quickly from left to right. Maybe it's just the way the cut was edited but I think it might be Bane getting his ass handed to him.
Same here, it's grown on me quite a bit.
I don't think the marketing squad would want to make Bane seem beatable in a teaser trailer. It may be possible but I think, more than likely, it's just a shot of Bane.
Blue Sugar
07-13-2011, 03:22 PM
For example one of my favorite Bruce Wayne moments (kudos to Bale and Nolan) is after the death of Rachel and him sitting in the sofa lying to himself without knowing it when
believing Rachel would wait for him.
Spidey_62
07-13-2011, 03:23 PM
Wow, a very exciting and epic teaser. I'm looking forward to when they officially release it in HD.
Motown Marvel
07-13-2011, 03:24 PM
damn, i missed the leak.
floreairfoot
07-13-2011, 03:25 PM
This wasn't anywhere near as disjointed or awkwardly paced as the TDK trailer from 12.07. While I watched that bad boy several thousand times, it still doesn't change my opinion that it was a total mess.
brb Joker talking, explosion, laughter that dint line with previous voice inflections, more explosions, choppy cuts of random lines thrown in for **** giggles, yet another explosion, and finally a great line followed by a fitting bout of laughter. What a mess. Just my opinion. I don't feel TDK has aged well at all. Begins, otoh, is a work of art..
:doh:
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 03:26 PM
Maybe Batman really meant get Harvey after all....
BBBBRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMM
:funny: Hahaha
StevieNicks1988
07-13-2011, 03:26 PM
So, based on all that I gather (all from completely nothing but imagination) that Bane probably f's up Gordon, Bruce goes to see him with the same sorta get-up he used when breaking into Gordon's office in Begins, Bane either finds out or already knows Batman's identity with or without the help of the League of Shadows if they are indeed in this movie and tracks him for a confrontation in what I'm assuming is the Batcave in the final shot of the trailer due to what looks like another batsuit hangin' up in the background to the right.
Hmm....if that is the Batcave, please don't tell me it gets destroyed right after Bruce builds it lmao. Poor guy.
batman_gr
07-13-2011, 03:27 PM
Hopefully it will be on the official site by tomorrow!
(I passed a thousand posts! Good for me.)
Anita18
07-13-2011, 03:27 PM
Alfred: "It's not being a teaser, it's being something MOAR"
Rachel: "Yea, your absolutely right, that trailer was not epic at all."
Alfred: "No, Rachel that's not what I me-"
Rachel: "Goodbye Alfred"
**BOOM!***
Rachel dies...
You win sir. :funny:
So I haven't been on since the trolls last night, what did I miss? It leaked?
MeenieWK
07-13-2011, 03:27 PM
So ... I like it
Not sure about using the begins footage, but i guess Joe public might not notice that so much and it ties the trilogy together
As a teaser, it does it's job perfectly, i mean it leaves the uninformed thinking, ****, batman is in deep doodoo..
Who is that narly bastard..
Also, we dont Even know that the dialogue between gordon And bruce .. Or even in the same scene..
Although it does seem likely
I like the use of the poster image to signify "rises"
I NEED to see that final shot in HD... I wanta true look of fear in batmans face..
stillanerd
07-13-2011, 03:28 PM
Okay, based on the teaser, I'm thinking what it's suggesting is the following:
Considering how Bane was introduced in "Knightfall" and how that was a storyline in which Batman was broken both physically and psychologically, I'm thinking that's exactly what's going to happen to Bruce early on in the film. Like you said, we know that at the beginning of this film, Bruce has lost the love of his life, the man who he hoped would have been a better savior for Gotham than himself would-up going crazy and is now dead, and he allowed himself to be framed as a cop-killer and thus has no police or public support. So if Bane comes along and beats the crap out of him, essentially taking over Gotham, in Bruce may feel he's at his darkest point and quits, believing he's done far more harm than good and that Gotham doesn't need him anymore. Thus he goes on a kind of "walkabout" and recuperation to heal his injuries, echoing his journey in Batman Begins
And while he's gone, Bane essentially rules Gotham's underworld with an iron fist and everything goes to hell, even worse than it was before Batman. Maybe that's where Catwoman comes in, in that she is someone who was inspired by Batman to try and fill the void, only as a female Robin Hood figure in that she robs the criminals to give to the poor and destitute, but is not exactly as effective a symbol as Batman was. Gordon gets hospitalized after he and his cops try to tangle with Bane and that's when Bruce returns, physically healed, but doubting if he can ever be Batman again, when he gets his pep talk from Gordon. Yes, I also think that the teaser suggests that Gordon has figured out Bruce is Batman, as well.
Doctor Jones
07-13-2011, 03:29 PM
I still don't get what people were expecting. I'm fine if you think the teaser is edited sloppily, as you can tell it was put together in a hurry (though I think it works great)but still, they're two months into filming. What have they film that's worthy of a trailer at such short notice? We can't sit here and say, "They should have had this and showed more Bane and Catwoman and more badass stuff." We don't know what they've shot and what can be used to at least pass for a good trailer. This is what they had to show us. Jesus people. You guys seemed to have wanted more footage. We got new footage. People always seem to focus more on the negatives than the positives. This is a teaser trailer. Considering them having to put together one at short notice this works pretty well, apart from the amateurish looking title and tacked on tagline at the end.
EliteF50
07-13-2011, 03:31 PM
Wait, so you guys didn't like the teaser??
Shadowdance
07-13-2011, 03:32 PM
I can totally see why they're using Batman Begins as a crutch in the TDKR teaser. After all, Batman Begins was released nearly 6 years ago while TDK, on the other hand, is still fresh in the public's mind. It seems that this particular teaser is recalling the first film in order to tie up loose ends, figuratively, with audiences... a sort of "hey, guys, let's not forget that Batman Begins is the reason we're here today".
I think I've watched the teaser at least 20 times today, and I'm still getting the chills. Hopefully Batman makes it out alive and is redeemed in the end...but it's a strong possibility, as much as I don't want to admit it, that it won't be the case. :csad:
TassaElamaOn
07-13-2011, 03:32 PM
:doh:
While you're entitled to your facepalm, I think it's an excellent movie. I think I meant to say that I don't feel TDK has aged as well as BB.
Either way, I'm praying that this year goes by very quick.
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 03:32 PM
Wait, so you guys didn't like the teaser??
Some people did and some people didn't.
I will hold complete judgement until I see the real thing.
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 03:33 PM
Wait, so you guys didn't like the teaser??
From the looks of things, half of the forum did, and the other half did not.
BUT, it is starting to grow on people (myself included).
TheBatman072
07-13-2011, 03:33 PM
Okay, based on the teaser, I'm thinking what it's suggesting is the following:
Considering how Bane was introduced in "Knightfall" and how that was a storyline in which Batman was broken both physically and psychologically, I'm thinking that's exactly what's going to happen to Bruce early on in the film. Like you said, we know that at the beginning of this film, Bruce has lost the love of his life, the man who he hoped would have been a better savior for Gotham than himself would-up going crazy and is now dead, and he allowed himself to be framed as a cop-killer and thus has no police or public support. So if Bane comes along and beats the crap out of him, essentially taking over Gotham, in Bruce may feel he's at his darkest point and quits, believing he's done far more harm than good and that Gotham doesn't need him anymore. Thus he goes on a kind of "walkabout" and recuperation to heal his injuries, echoing his journey in Batman Begins
And while he's gone, Bane essentially rules Gotham's underworld with an iron fist and everything goes to hell, even worse than it was before Batman. Maybe that's where Catwoman comes in, in that she is someone who was inspired by Batman to try and fill the void, only as a female Robin Hood figure in that she robs the criminals to give to the poor and destitute, but is not exactly as effective a symbol as Batman was. Gordon gets hospitalized after he and his cops try to tangle with Bane and that's when Bruce returns, physically healed, but doubting if he can ever be Batman again, when he gets his pep talk from Gordon. Yes, I also think that the teaser suggests that Gordon has figured out Bruce is Batman, as well.
tl;dr
terry78
07-13-2011, 03:34 PM
I hardly think WB would sign off on their most lucrative golden goose to get killed off in any series without some type of deus ex machina to bring him back.
Shadowdance
07-13-2011, 03:34 PM
Some people did and some people didn't.
I will hold complete judgement until I see the real thing.
Uhhh...that is the real teaser.:huh:
TheBatman072
07-13-2011, 03:34 PM
From the looks of things, half of the forum did, and the other half did not.
BUT, it is starting to grow on people (myself included).
Ahhh, no.
It's more like 90% of us loved it despite it's ****** bootleg quality, while the rest of you are *****ing about sloppiness or randomness or whatever.
miggizle85
07-13-2011, 03:35 PM
I still don't get what people were expecting. I'm fine if you think the teaser is edited sloppily, as you can tell it was put together in a hurry (though I think it works great)but still, they're two months into filming. What have they film that's worthy of a trailer at such short notice? We can't sit here and say, "They should have had this and showed more Bane and Catwoman and more badass stuff." We don't know what they've shot and what can be used to at least pass for a good trailer. This is what they had to show us. Jesus people. You guys seemed to have wanted more footage. We got new footage. People always seem to focus more on the negatives than the positives. This is a teaser trailer. Considering them having to put together one at short notice this works pretty well, apart from the amateurish looking title and tacked on tagline at the end.
Maybe we were hoping that this was not the case. Maybe... perhaps.
ShrinkingMan
07-13-2011, 03:35 PM
they haven't even begun filming the city scenes. i knew there wasn't going to be much, i'm content with it.
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 03:35 PM
Uhhh...that is the real teaser.:huh:
No...What I meant was the not bootlegged version AKA NOT REAL!
redfirebird2008
07-13-2011, 03:36 PM
Yeah, and the tone was extremely dour, not even TDK had that type of feeling to it, for any of it's trailers. They went out of their way to stress the finality of it all, and like I've said from the start, I'm sure Nolan will want to end this in a way that makes it impossible for WB to make direct sequels.
There are several things that make me think he's going to die.
1. Like you said, it is the easiest way of cutting off the production of direct sequels.
2. The tone of the trailer. The line "every hero has an end."
3. The camera zooming to the light, almost the same as those Heaven shots we've seen from Hollywood over the years (Titanic, etc.).
The phrase "Rises" should not be taken so literally by everyone. It could easily be referring to his legend or reputation rising even if he dies.
Saint
07-13-2011, 03:36 PM
Christ on a cracker! They're really going to break Batman's back!
Also, the trailer is win and awesome.
Anita18
07-13-2011, 03:36 PM
I hardly think WB would sign off on their most lucrative golden goose to get killed off in any series without some type of deus ex machina to bring him back.
I know, which is why I'd be really impressed if they do manage it. :hehe:
TassaElamaOn
07-13-2011, 03:36 PM
It was enough for me. Thankfully far more satisfying than TDKs teaser. (though seeing it still gives me chills)
regwec
07-13-2011, 03:36 PM
It's definitely Two Face talking to Gordon in hospital.
*runs away*
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 03:37 PM
THIS MOVIE IS GONNA BE THE BEST THING EVER!!!!
I don't care what you say
*plugs ears*
lalalalalalalalalalalalalala
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 03:38 PM
It was enough for me. Thankfully far more satisfying than TDKs teaser. (though seeing it still gives me chills)
Your a prime example of the entire human race.
NOTHING is ever ENOUGH for ANYONE!
WE WANT MOAR!
Conebone69
07-13-2011, 03:38 PM
Wait, so you guys didn't like the teaser??
Its alright, nothing that special. Definetly dont expecting something amazing
Carusos Shades
07-13-2011, 03:38 PM
I'm not worried. I honestly believe if Nolan didn't have a story worth telling he wouldnt have bothered. Regardless of the money WB threw at him I doubt he would sully his series legacy by making a film he wasnt truly invested in.
TheFuture
07-13-2011, 03:38 PM
There are several things that make me think he's going to die.
1. Like you said, it is the easiest way of cutting off the production of direct sequels.
2. The tone of the trailer. The line "every hero has an end."
3. The camera zooming to the light, almost the same as those Heaven shots we've seen from Hollywood over the years (Titanic, etc.).
The phrase "Rises" should not be taken so literally by everyone. It could easily be referring to his legend or reputation rising even if he dies.
From what we've seen in the teaser, Bane seems like an unstoppable beast, wouldn't it be crazy if the only way Bruce could take him down is to embark in some kind of kamikaze mission.
Doc Samson
07-13-2011, 03:39 PM
I think people on this board really forget how insignificant we are to the total population, I mean seriously. I'm willing to bet the number of people who saw TDK without seeing BB rivals BB's total domestic box office, easily.
But even so, it's a teaser lol, I stressed this yesterday, and a certain somebody got all bent out of shape about it, like I was trying to give orders like a mod or something. No, just trying to reiterate the difference between a teaser & a regular trailer. I'm actually surprised we got new footage at all
TheBatman072
07-13-2011, 03:39 PM
There are several things that make me think he's going to die.
1. Like you said, it is the easiest way of cutting off the production of direct sequels.
2. The tone of the trailer. The line "every hero has an end."
3. The camera zooming to the light, almost the same as those Heaven shots we've seen from Hollywood over the years (Titanic, etc.).
The phrase "Rises" should not be taken so literally by everyone. It could easily be referring to his legend or reputation rising even if he dies.
And there's equal amounts if not more evidence saying he won't die.
redfirebird2008
07-13-2011, 03:39 PM
From what we've seen in the teaser, Bane seems like an unstoppable beast, wouldn't it be crazy if the only way Bruce could take him down is to embark in some kind of kamikaze mission.
That would be awesome. The ultimate sacrifice.
Veidt
07-13-2011, 03:39 PM
While you're entitled to your facepalm, I think it's an excellent movie. I think I meant to say that I don't feel TDK has aged as well as BB.
I agree. The scene in The Dark Knight where Batman chases the Joker on a penny-farthing just looks ridiculous now.
DoomsdayApex
07-13-2011, 03:40 PM
Ahhh, no.
It's more like 90% of us loved it despite it's ****** bootleg quality, while the rest of you are *****ing about sloppiness or randomness or whatever.
I was b***hing about it being rushed.
Not from what I'm seeing good sir. The percentage of people who haven't enjoyed it is nearly at 40%. Furthermore, take a good look into the people who have just watched the teaser. Most of them have been disappointed.
Shadowdance
07-13-2011, 03:40 PM
No...What I meant was the not bootlegged version AKA NOT REAL!
Ah...Well, it was real enough for me!:woot:
Ziggyman
07-13-2011, 03:40 PM
...Was hoping to not see the whole hero leave and everything go to **** then hero to come back and save the day storyline...
Anita18
07-13-2011, 03:40 PM
There are several things that make me think he's going to die.
1. Like you said, it is the easiest way of cutting off the production of direct sequels.
2. The tone of the trailer. The line "every hero has an end."
3. The camera zooming to the light, almost the same as those Heaven shots we've seen from Hollywood over the years (Titanic, etc.).
The phrase "Rises" should not be taken so literally by everyone. It could easily be referring to his legend or reputation rising even if he dies.
I don't get why people keep repeating this wrong - it's right there: "Every hero has a journey. Every journey has an end."
So from that line, Batman could retire too and Bruce Wayne could live on. :oldrazz:
The camera zooming to the light is a good point, though.
MultipleJesuses
07-13-2011, 03:41 PM
tracks him for a confrontation in what I'm assuming is the Batcave in the final shot of the trailer due to what looks like another batsuit hangin' up in the background to the right.
Hmm....if that is the Batcave, please don't tell me it gets destroyed right after Bruce builds it lmao. Poor guy.
Woah I just noticed that. It's totally like another batsuit.
*Whiplash*
07-13-2011, 03:41 PM
I agree. The scene in The Dark Knight where Batman chases the Joker on a penny-farthing just looks ridiculous now.
:funny:
You have no idea how much that made me laugh! Thank you!
TheBatman072
07-13-2011, 03:41 PM
I was b***hing about it being rushed.
Not from what I'm seeing good sir. The percentage of people who haven't enjoyed it is nearly at 40%. Furthermore, take a good look into the people who have just watched the teaser. Most of them have been disappointed.
Oh so now it's not really 50/50. More like 60/40.
And yeah, "most" of them are disappointed because YOU were disappointed.
It's the same thing that happens when somebody sees a movie they didn't like. Automatically they say "well not a lot of people in my theater liked it either."
Your opinion skews your perception.
wikum
07-13-2011, 03:41 PM
i think the idea is to genuinely make people believe batman is going to die.
doesn't mean that's what will happen.
.:TheDarkKnight
07-13-2011, 03:41 PM
Just saw the teaser. Awesome. :D
coderaven24
07-13-2011, 03:42 PM
meh, if this ends negative for Batman it will be him in court defending his action as the bats.
That would be an epic conclusion.
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 03:42 PM
I've fell in love with every Nolan movie...at this man's rate, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be the best of the 3.
Kane52630
07-13-2011, 03:42 PM
The camera zooming to the light is a good point, though.
Because he is rising. :oldrazz:
Doc Samson
07-13-2011, 03:42 PM
I hardly think WB would sign off on their most lucrative golden goose to get killed off in any series without some type of deus ex machina to bring him back.
Ahh, but there needn't be a literal death of Bruce Wayne. However the death of Batman, is something else entirely :cwink:
Blue Sugar
07-13-2011, 03:43 PM
I mean I'm skeptical about this as a teaser but I have still watched it a thousand times in a bootleg qualitu gettin' goosesbumps and thoughts about this legend all day.
Visceral
07-13-2011, 03:43 PM
I want to see a battle damaged batman.
I just saw it. I liked it. The stand off at the end looks like it will be awesome.
rashad
07-13-2011, 03:43 PM
I think people on this board really forget how insignificant we are to the total population, I mean seriously. I'm willing to bet the number of people who saw TDK without seeing BB rivals BB's total domestic box office, easily.
But even so, it's a teaser lol, I stressed this yesterday, and a certain somebody got all bent out of shape about it, like I was trying to give orders like a mod or something. No, just trying to reiterate the difference between a teaser & a regular trailer. I'm actually surprised we got new footage at all
And that new footage looks great. However little it may be.
MeenieWK
07-13-2011, 03:44 PM
There are several things that make me think he's going die
2. The tone of the trailer. The line "every hero has an end.".
It follows "every hero has a beginning" (BB).. This in reference to tdk... He is no longer considered a hero at the end.., as opposed to his life "ending"
IMO
Macphisto
07-13-2011, 03:44 PM
Batman ain't going to die people. Good marketing strategy by Nolan/WB to suggest it is a possibility though; injects a real sense of danger.
Armalarm
07-13-2011, 03:44 PM
I want to see a battle damaged batman.
Watch Batman Returns.
*tears off mask*
"there...I'm damaged"
LOL
Sharkboy
07-13-2011, 03:44 PM
Ahhh, no.
It's more like 90% of us loved it despite it's ****** bootleg quality, while the rest of you are *****ing about sloppiness or randomness or whatever.
What this guy said.
batbax
07-13-2011, 03:44 PM
I thought the teaser was brilliant..sure the "epic" thing can be seen as corny or too "hollywood"...but the parallels between the city appearing the same as the hole that bane was crwling out of towards the light(parallelling the camera moving up towards the batman logo in the sky), gordon appearing in the hospital which I found highly disturbing, and the overall terrifying sense they gave to bane and the whole situation, I thought it worked great.. It took me a couple viewings, then it just sort of clicked. And I get the feeling If id have seen it in a theatre it woulda been perfect right off the bat.
redfirebird2008
07-13-2011, 03:44 PM
I don't get why people keep repeating this wrong - it's right there: "Every hero has a journey. Every journey has an end."
So from that line, Batman could retire too and Bruce Wayne could live on. :oldrazz:
The camera zooming to the light is a good point, though.
Ah, sorry about that. But yes, the camera/light thing is interesting especially with the title also being part of that little sequence.
Shadowdance
07-13-2011, 03:45 PM
...Was hoping to not see the whole hero leave and everything go to **** then hero to come back and save the day storyline...
You and me both, man. I'm also hoping that we won't get the "hero sacrifices himself for the better good", which seems to be run-of-the-mill in third movie trilogies....but it kinda looks like that route's being taken.
stillanerd
07-13-2011, 03:45 PM
So ... I like it
Not sure about using the begins footage, but i guess Joe public might not notice that so much and it ties the trilogy together
Not only that, but given how Batman Begins was essentially about Bruce overcoming his anger, guilt, and fears in order to become Batman, and given Bane's role in the Batman comics (especially Knightfall), Bruce has to go through that process again. After all, remember the mantra in Batman Begins: "Why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves up" And The image of Bruce climbing out of the well (not unlike the one he fell into as a kid) the camera zooming up towards the Batman symbol made from a crumbling city, and the very title itself suggest this.
tl;dr
Basically, the trailer suggests:
*Bane breaks Batman.
*Bruce quits and leaves Gotham
*Bruce attempts to heal himself physically and spiritually.
*Gotham goes to **** under Bane.
*Catwoman is a female Robin Hood.
*Gordon gets injured.
*Bruce returns and gets pep talk from Gordon to become Batman again to stop Bane.
Doc Samson
07-13-2011, 03:46 PM
And that new footage looks great. However little it may be.
Damn right
byte19
07-13-2011, 03:46 PM
Wait, so you guys didn't like the teaser??
they didn't... I'm still cleaning my walls from exploding awesomeness I witnessed... but who cares... they'll still say: you seen this movie 200 times? are you crazy?:oldrazz:
redfirebird2008
07-13-2011, 03:46 PM
which seems to be run-of-the-mill in third movie trilogies.
Examples?
TheBatman072
07-13-2011, 03:46 PM
What this guy said.
Don't agree with me. Or you might see what people mean about me in these forums. Whatever that means.
hegele
07-13-2011, 03:47 PM
I want to preface this by saying I have no doubt the movie will be a great, alas here are my views on the trailer...
what i like
- letting the audience know the that this is THE FINALE to Nolan's Batman.
- the crumbling buildings making the bat signal.
- the shots of Bane.
- the high stakes felt.
- the chant!
what i don't like
- too many cliche title cards.
- using footage from previous films.
- the dark knight blue flames. i think this should be specific to TDK, since they weren't in BB.
- the dialogue. cheesy. might not be as cheesy in the movie, but in the trailer it comes off as cheesy.
- the shot of Gordon. I don't mind it, but for the first footage shown in the teaser, it is kind of underwelming footage thrown in the middle of scenes from the previous films.
Conebone69
07-13-2011, 03:47 PM
Whats up with the white screen behind TDKR at the end? Looked funny. Plus there wasnt even a bat symbol behind it
KalMart
07-13-2011, 03:47 PM
Ahh, but there needn't be a literal death of Bruce Wayne. However the death of Batman, is something else entirely :cwink:
I still predict that Batman will 'die' in battle, but in the end we'll see that Wayne lives on and continues the mission in secret....like in the DKR comic. :D
Anita18
07-13-2011, 03:48 PM
You and me both, man. I'm also hoping that we won't get the "hero sacrifices himself for the better good", which seems to be run-of-the-mill in third movie trilogies....but it kinda looks like that route's being taken.
The hero sacrificing himself for the greater good already happened in TDK. :oldrazz: It was the circumstances that made it feel new.
TassaElamaOn
07-13-2011, 03:48 PM
Your a prime example of the entire human race.
NOTHING is ever ENOUGH for ANYONE!
WE WANT MOAR!
What are you prattling on about? I said the teaser was very satisfying. Then defended TDKs minimalist approach.
I guess I should have repeated that the shot of Bane cornering Bats will carry me over the next year.
The hell, man.
miggizle85
07-13-2011, 03:48 PM
I didn't like the teaser. So throw me into whatever percentage you wanna throw me in. I've also seen quite a few people who weren't *****ting their pants after watching it either.
Why do people who criticize anything have to be thrown into a "nit-pickers" category? Is it safe to throw all the people who defend it to no end into the "fanboy" category then?
Gosh this place can sometimes almost be as bad as RottenTomatoes. I'm surprised I haven't seen any "guys I've read his history and he also didn't like the TDK teaser so he loses all cred with me" comments yet.
I'm liking the footage tho. And the somewhat new score (can't really tell). Also that building shot is pretty cool (tho I doubt it's in the actual movie).
coderaven24
07-13-2011, 03:49 PM
Ahh, but there needn't be a literal death of Bruce Wayne. However the death of Batman, is something else entirely :cwink:
That is actually a good point.
EliteF50
07-13-2011, 03:49 PM
But... why don't you guys like it? :huh:
Saint
07-13-2011, 03:49 PM
I'm surprised people are worried about Batman dying. That's not what this trailer said to me at all; it looks to me like the film is about Batman being beaten and taking out of the game, and the road to his return.
It's hard to tell, but it looks like the TDK suit in the trailer--which is unfortunate. But if Batman really is injured in the long term, I suppose he could have a different suit when he returns.
KalMart
07-13-2011, 03:50 PM
Every rose has its thorn....
Doctor Jones
07-13-2011, 03:50 PM
This.
I'm not suggesting everyone should love this trailer to bits - and if you don't think it works as a teaser, fine. But people seem to be put out because...there wasn't enough footage.
No ****. It's a teaser.
I know... I know...
And the logo at the end of the trailer gives off so many varied meanings. It could be death, it could be redemption, it could be hope, it could repsresent Batman or Bane or both. There's a lot there.
D4rkShaDoWz
07-13-2011, 03:50 PM
I really hope Batman does not die... too cheesy and too typical of an ending to the movie..hope Nolan came up with something better
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