Whose costume is better?

[Chris Wallace]

Simple enough question-which design do you prefer? Maguire's?
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/2257594v0tdG0RXXIZuedeBNiBg_g47BdaSphE48allFZ9IUC7 uwHdtONkGV7fCXrh_NOS7eKRMnLdciUDV5eX5Nv_LQ.jpg
Or Garfield's?
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd453/hazzyjonezpicturezzz/Spiderman-Garfield_510.jpg

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

I like Tobey's better, but I have no problem with Garfield's costume.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Definitely Maguires suit. I like the new suit, but there are things about it I'm not fond of. So no questions asked, the Maguire suit.


It's THE Spider-Man suit.

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's too early to judge.

[Spider-ManHero12]

How? We have quite a few pictures of the new suit so far to compare the two.

[MessiahDecoy123]

A couple of still photos don't fully convey how the suit will look during the film.

[Venom75]

Definitely Maguires suit. I like the new suit, but there are things about it I'm not fond of. So no questions asked, the Maguire suit.


It's THE Spider-Man suit.

Agreed.

[Chris Wallace]

A couple of still photos don't fully convey how the suit will look during the film.

The only time I've ever felt a costume looked better in motion was after seeing the Captain America trailer. Typically a still tells you everything you need to know about a costume.

[socool]

I like the new suit, but the silver shoes and stripe on the leg are the biggest problems. Naturally, the Raimi suit is better, though. That's not to say it's perfect. The colors are very diluted (my biggest problem) and I'm not a fan of the material used for the webbing. Those complaints are minor however when you put the full suit into play.

I just wish they had an actor with Garfield's physique for the Raimi films. The muscle suit really ruins Spider-Man. He just looks too big. In fact, that may be what ruins my love for the suit so much. It's the best of the two, sure, but I can never quite 'love it' like some of you. That may be because the man under the suit is pretty big compared to Spidey in the comics. If someone could make a great manip of the Raimi suit with Garfield's physique, I would die.

Still, when it comes down to which one's better, it's the Raimi suit.

[Chris Wallace]

I like the new suit, but the silver shoes and stripe on the leg are the biggest problems. Naturally, the Raimi suit is better, though. That's not to say it's perfect. The colors are very diluted (my biggest problem) and I'm not a fan of the material used for the webbing. Those complaints are minor however when you put the full suit into play.

I just wish they had an actor with Garfield's physique for the Raimi films. The muscle suit really ruins Spider-Man. He just looks too big. In fact, that may be what ruins my love for the suit so much. It's the best of the two, sure, but I can never quite 'love it' like some of you. That may be because the man under the suit is pretty big compared to Spidey in the comics. If someone could make a great manip of the Raimi suit with Garfield's physique, I would die.

Still, when it comes down to which one's better, it's the Raimi suit.The Ditko-era physique is a thing of the past. And you make it sound like they had him at Captain America proportions. I think it was just right, and pretty consistent with the comics.http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/539053-spidey_super.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/890533-spider_mannauck_color_super.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/julyruby83/portrait_romita_spiderman.jpg

[socool]

The Ditko-era physique is a thing of the past. And you make it sound like they had him at Captain America proportions. I think it was just right, and pretty consistent with the comics.http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/539053-spidey_super.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/890533-spider_mannauck_color_super.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/julyruby83/portrait_romita_spiderman.jpg

As someone else once said. It's like Romita Sr. vs Romita Jr. (Sr.=Raimi, Jr.=Webb)

http://holdyourfireal.smugmug.com/photos/451155158_ZQZFr-X2.jpg
http://www.wildsound-filmmaking-feedback-events.com/images/spiderman_john_romita_jr.jpg

I personally feel he was WAY too big. I know you say it's perfect but I hate it. I have no idea why, but whenever I look at a still from the movie I just want to rip that muscle suit away.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The Ditko-era physique is a thing of the past. And you make it sound like they had him at Captain America proportions. I think it was just right, and pretty consistent with the comics.http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/539053-spidey_super.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/890533-spider_mannauck_color_super.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/julyruby83/portrait_romita_spiderman.jpg Agreed.

[Anno_Domini]

I prefer the texture on Webb's suit, as well as the non-raised webbing and the usage of webshooters and the whole idea of the simple-like shooters as well.

The only thing Raimi's suit has right is how it's closely adapted to Spidey's normal blues and reds. That's really about it that Raimi accomplished, imo.

[Spider-Aziz]

Maguire's suit is better in:


Red & blue distribution
Web forms
Logos



Garfield's suit is better in:


Colors in movie
Mask lenses shape
Webbing color being black and not raised

[Majik1387]

Garfield's suit is distinctively better, but fanboys are gonna vote Maguire's suit due to their hard on for the Raimi movies. :csad:

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Huh?! The Maugire suit is easily better because it's classic suit.

[Anno_Domini]

^^ Huh?! The Maugire suit is easily better because it's classic suit.

The raised webbing is classic? Hrm...

[Spider-ManHero12]

The raised webbing is a very minor thing overall.

[webhead731]

The new reboot costume is one of the ugliest comic book movie costumes out there.

Maguire's for sure.

[Spider-Aziz]

The new reboot costume is one of the ugliest comic book movie costumes out there.

Maguire's for sure.
What If...?
Tim Burton's Superman movie saw the light????
http://www.blogcdn.com/blog.moviefone.com/media/2010/10/cine-burton-supes-suit.jpg

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ That really does look terrible.

[Anno_Domini]

The raised webbing is a very minor thing overall.

With the reboot costume having BLACK webbing and WEBSHOOTERS, I would think that would more be classic Spidey than Raimi's version that didn't have those two and the design itself of the suit would just be a very minor thing overall.

The new reboot costume is one of the ugliest comic book movie costumes out there.

Lol.

[Godzilla2014]

I prefer Acheson's design for the Raimi Spider-Man films. It's a very good adaptation of the comic book costume, and, in some ways (like the back spider-logo) it even improved on the comics.

[webhead731]

With the reboot costume having BLACK webbing and WEBSHOOTERS, I would think that would more be classic Spidey than Raimi's version that didn't have those two and the design itself of the suit would just be a very minor thing overall.

The new costume doesn't have webs, it has lines.

[Spider-ManHero12]

With the reboot costume having BLACK webbing and WEBSHOOTERS, I would think that would more be classic Spidey than Raimi's version that didn't have those two and the design itself of the suit would just be a very minor thing overall.
Raimi's has raised webbing and organic shooters.

Webb's has a red stripes on the legs, motorcycle gloves, weird boots with only half webs, silver on the feet, and no belt.

[webhead731]

With the reboot costume having BLACK webbing and WEBSHOOTERS, I would think that would more be classic Spidey than Raimi's version that didn't have those two and the design itself of the suit would just be a very minor thing overall.



Lol.

Raimi's has raised webbing and organic shooters.

Webb's has a red stripes on the legs, motorcycle gloves, weird boots with only half webs, silver on the feet, and no belt.

Haha. Don't bother going to the doctor, you've just been treated. :D

[Anno_Domini]

The new costume doesn't have webs, it has lines.

The boots and gloves have lines, sure, I'll give you that...but for you to think webbing only has to look like squares is ignorant. Webs can go into all kinds of shapes as specifically seen in the chest area on Webb's suit.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UJJWn02C74Y/Th-Bus8p36I/AAAAAAAAAJw/cWMcmxVd5m4/s1600/amazing-spider-man%2B%25283%2529.jpg

Raimi's has raised webbing and organic shooters.

Webb's has a red stripes on the legs, motorcycle gloves, weird boots with only half webs, silver on the feet, and no belt.

Okay then...Raimi's suit has different logos from the comics and his eyes has a blue tint to them in S-M 2 and the blues kept getting darker and darker.

Sure, Raimi had the "right" look of the reds and blues, but he still made mistakes down the line with his film series. Webb is going for something different, but at least he fixed Raimi's mistakes such as the webbing on the suit. The only thing Webb's suit fails in is not having his belt, but maybe it would look stupid with his chest piece being so long, who knows. The suit itself has a more lanky look to it because Webb wanted an agile look on Garfield, much different from the look Raimi wanted on Maguire.

[Anno_Domini]

Haha. Don't bother going to the doctor, you've just been treated. :D

:dry:

[webhead731]

The boots and gloves have lines, sure, I'll give you that...but for you to think webbing only has to look like squares is ignorant. Webs can go into all kinds of shapes as specifically seen in the chest area on Webb's suit.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UJJWn02C74Y/Th-Bus8p36I/AAAAAAAAAJw/cWMcmxVd5m4/s1600/amazing-spider-man%2B%25283%2529.jpg

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg10/scaled.php?server=10&filename=spidey2promopic3.png&res=medium

I don't care about how real spider webs look. Doesn't mean they need to try to do that on a costume. Which, by the way, real spider webs don't remind me of the grids on the suit.

Okay then...Raimi's suit has different logos from the comics and his eyes has a blue tint to them in S-M 2 and the blues kept getting darker and darker.

Blue tint in his eyes? What?

Sure, Raimi had the "right" look of the reds and blues, but he still made mistakes down the line with his film series. Webb is going for something different, but at least he fixed Raimi's mistakes such as the webbing on the suit. The only thing Webb's suit fails in is not having his belt, but maybe it would look stupid with his chest piece being so long, who knows. The suit itself has a more lanky look to it because Webb wanted an agile look on Garfield, much different from the look Raimi wanted on Maguire.


The new suit has more problems than the belt. They might have wanted a more agile looking Spidey, but what they ended up getting is a guy who looks like a fan in a crappy homemade costume. Skinny Spidey can work in the pages but not so well on screen I guess.

[Spider-Aziz]

:dry:
You specified more flaws about the costume you prefer

[Anno_Domini]

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg10/scaled.php?server=10&filename=spidey2promopic3.png&res=medium

I don't care about how real spider webs look. Doesn't mean they need to try to do that on a costume. Which, by the way, real spider webs don't remind me of the grids on the suit.

Well obviously, the creators of the new suit DID care on trying to make it resemble more like webs instead of squares as we've seen mostly on Spidey. Again, new take. But, more on that later.

Blue tint in his eyes? What?

When Spider-Man swings around during the night in S-M 2, there was always a weird blue tint around the eyes that just bugged the hell out of me, when his eyes weren't very reflective during the movies and only on posters.

Again, nit picking, but then so was S-MH12 when mentioning the little things such as the lines on the legs, which again, is a new take, and needless to say changes would have been made.

The new suit has more problems than the belt. They might have wanted a more agile looking Spidey, but what they ended up getting is a guy who looks like a fan in a crappy homemade costume. Skinny Spidey can work in the pages but not so well on screen I guess.

Well, Peter is a scientist whiz and can't make a great ol' suit, so what we get in TAS-M is far more realistic than what Peter made in Raimi's films. Parker is no fashion designer/fashionista. And it's always been that case, so making a live-action movie will make you wonder how the hell Peter made that suit from the last trilogy. This suit looks like a homemade suit because IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE ONE.

[Anno_Domini]

You specified more flaws about the costume you prefer

Mentioning nitpicks and not what I believe are flaws are two different things my friend.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The boots and gloves have lines, sure, I'll give you that...but for you to think webbing only has to look like squares is ignorant. Webs can go into all kinds of shapes as specifically seen in the chest area on Webb's suit.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UJJWn02C74Y/Th-Bus8p36I/AAAAAAAAAJw/cWMcmxVd5m4/s1600/amazing-spider-man%2B%25283%2529.jpg



Okay then...Raimi's suit has different logos from the comics and his eyes has a blue tint to them in S-M 2 and the blues kept getting darker and darker. Those are very very minor. So minor that hasbro started using the eyes of Raimi's as part of the promotional iamges for their Spider-Man classics toys.

Look, I'm not bashing the new suit. I like it, but it's not what it could have been.

[Spider-Aziz]

Mentioning nitpicks and not what I believe are flaws are two different things my friend.
Note taken

[Anno_Domini]

Those are very very minor. So minor that hasbro started using the eyes of Raimi's as part of the promotional iamges for their Spider-Man classics toys.

And in about two years, they'll probably use Webb's eyes. It's not such a big thing what Hasbro is doing and they're getting all the usage out of Raimi's concept as they can, but it'll change.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I doubt they'll use Webb's eyes and there's really no reason to. They are only slightly smaller than Raimi's if that.

[Anno_Domini]

I doubt they'll use Webb's eyes and there's really no reason to. They are only slightly smaller than Raimi's if that.

Slightly smaller height-wise, thicker around the lenses and also a bit wider as well. So, I would say that looks very different than Raimi's, imo.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Hasbro won't take the build of any of the movie versions of SPidey. They come up with their own most of the time. For Spider-Man classics, they did use an USM image, but it was for a short time.

[Anno_Domini]

Why did they use Raimi's version of the eyes then?

[Spider-ManHero12]

That's an aspect of the costume. Not the build, lol.

[Anno_Domini]

So why did you bring up 'Raimi's eyes' then? They just used the suit, and it probably did have different looking eyes and webbing for all that matters.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Because, that was the only thing they took from it. I just don't see them taking anything from Marc Webb's film.

[Chris Wallace]

Organic webbing has no impact on the costume itself, as webshooters are (at least SUPPOSED to be) worn underneath the gloves and completely hidden from view. I say the ridiculously large outlet nozzles hurt the look rather than help it.

[Chris Wallace]

The new reboot costume is one of the ugliest comic book movie costumes out there.


I disagree. I think it's the ugliest. There isn't one thing I feel it got right.
The raised webbing is a very minor thing overall.

As it's the only thing that really separates Acheson's from the comics, yes.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/sp1.jpg+http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/MARVEL-U-marvel-comics-7246334-600-911.jpg=http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/actionpromo6.png

[Godzilla2014]

I disagree. I think it's the ugliest. There isn't one thing I feel it got right.


As it's the only thing that really separates Acheson's from the comics, yes.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/sp1.jpg+http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/MARVEL-U-marvel-comics-7246334-600-911.jpg=http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/actionpromo6.png

I miss the Raimi Spider-Man films. I'm not really excited whatsoever for the reboot to be honest. Part of that is that I've just stopped giving much of a damn about Spider-Man in general after BND, but the reboot's not helping. For a film to be titled The Amazing Spider-Man, I sure have yet to be amazed. In general, Spidey's best days are either behind or ahead of us, but it's certainly not now.

[Chris Wallace]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/spidermandrewmc20.jpg+http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r179/jgarzten3/newsuit.jpg+http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq6/eliwingz2/Comix-live/nicholas_hammond_spider-man-1.jpg+http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/dstorres/Marvel%20Universe/Spiderman-HOM.jpg+http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh33/terrorfromabove/Comic%20Book%20images/Spider-ManNewCostume.jpg+http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/acheisey3365/CostumeSpiderUnlim.gif=http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g457/TwelveFortyTwo/The%20Amazing%20Spiderman%202012%20-%20Poster%20Designs/AmazingSpiderman_Teaser.jpg

[socool]

I disagree. I think it's the ugliest. There isn't one thing I feel it got right.

That's not true. I'm not TRYING to defend the suit but to completely bypass the colors, the spider symbols on the front and back, and the eye design because you don't like the suit is crap. So there, that's three things it did right.

[Godzilla2014]

That's not true. I'm not TRYING to defend the suit but to completely bypass the colors, the spider symbols on the front and back, and the eye design because you don't like the suit is crap. So there, that's three things it did right.

What if he doesn't like the colors, the spider-symbols, or the eye design?

[socool]

What if he doesn't like the colors, the spider-symbols, or the eye design?

I'm not saying he has to like them, but they are still constant with the original Spider-Man suit.

[Godzilla2014]

I'm not saying he has to like them, but they are still constant with the original Spider-Man suit.

I thought they changed the eye design? The legs on the spiders are also longer, and they colored the front spider red for the back spider, which makes it too small. It is an ugly mess, which while it may have some redeeming factors, should be scrapped in favor of a more comic-book style outfit, in my opinion.

[Spider-Aziz]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/MARVEL-U-marvel-comics-7246334-600-911.jpgLove Alex Ross Spider-Man
I remember back in 1996 seeing a picture from Marvel's with Spider-Man's back logo and thought "Why does it look different?"
I watched the movies using that Spider, loved it ever since

[El Payaso]

Okay, one is the perfect translation from comics to big screen. The other is a pitiful variation from someone who had probably never seen the original design more than once in his life.

Not being a fan of Raimi's approach, Raimi's spider-suit is the absolute best ever so far.




What If...?
Tim Burton's Superman movie saw the light????

Thenm it would have been probably much better than the half-baked pre-production picture you posted.

The new reboot costume is one of the ugliest comic book movie costumes out there.

Can't think of any other that's ugliest. But okay, let's say one of them. For sure. And gratuitously ugly at that.

The new costume doesn't have webs, it has lines.

I'd have sworn that no one could have had THAT detail wrong. You can screw anything in the spider-suit except the spider-webs. But it was possible.

Well obviously, the creators of the new suit DID care on trying to make it resemble more like webs instead of squares as we've seen mostly on Spidey. Again, new take. But, more on that later.

There's nothing that resembles more like spider-webs than a basketball ball. And I'm not even talking about the texture. Those lines are basketball ball's but never spider-webs.

Well, Peter is a scientist whiz and can't make a great ol' suit, so what we get in TAS-M is far more realistic than what Peter made in Raimi's films. Parker is no fashion designer/fashionista. And it's always been that case, so making a live-action movie will make you wonder how the hell Peter made that suit from the last trilogy. This suit looks like a homemade suit because IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE ONE.

That doesn't look home-made for Christ. That doesn't look cheap or hand-made. It simply looks awful as an adaptation of the original.

[Godzilla2014]

Okay, one is the perfect translation from comics to big screen. The other is a pitiful variation from someone who had probably never seen the original design more than once in his life.

Not being a fan of Raimi's approach, Raimi's spider-suit is the absolute best ever so far.






Thenm it would have been probably much better than the half-baked pre-production picture you posted.



Can't think of any other that's ugliest. But okay, let's say one of them. For sure. And gratuitously ugly at that.



I'd have sworn that no one could have had THAT detail wrong. You can screw anything in the spider-suit except the spider-webs. But it was possible.



There's nothing that resembles more like spider-webs than a basketball ball. And I'm not even talking about the texture. Those lines are basketball ball's but never spider-webs.



That doesn't look home-made for Christ. That doesn't look cheap or hand-made. It simply looks awful as an adaptation of the original.

Agreed.

[webhead731]

That's not true. I'm not TRYING to defend the suit but to completely bypass the colors, the spider symbols on the front and back, and the eye design because you don't like the suit is crap. So there, that's three things it did right.

No, it managed to screw all that up too. The eyes don't look very intimidating or anything, not like they do in the comics or in Raimi's. The mirror eyes apparently work in posters only, because on screen and in pics they look like the 70s TV show (maybe it's the shape, who knows). The colors are pale, and the symbols have been like...dissected up in some fancy design that almost looks like a Transformers Autobot or Decepticon logo. What's more pathetic is that they just copied the Raimi spider and then elongated its legs and THEN cut it up. Like, even the new Batman movies have had the courtesy and creativity to make a different logo than the original series.
If they wanted to use the logo from the previous Spidey series they shouldn't have embarrassed it by slapping it on all kinds of ugly. :down

For a film to be titled The Amazing Spider-Man, I sure have yet to be amazed.

That's another thing, it looks like it's going to be some dark BatNolan wannabe which Spidey is NOT, and it has this horrid suit in it along with plenty of other just off or plain wrong things, and yet they interpret THIS as The Amazing Spider-Man? Like, when I think Amazing Spider-Man the opposite of the reboot is what I think. Raimi's films could be "The Amazing Spider-Man" more than what this is turning out to be. It'd be a shame for people to imagine THIS when they hear the Amazing Spider-Man.

That's like, if Batman and Robin had been called The Dark Knight. What a bad taste that would leave in peoples' mouths.

[Spider-ManHero12]

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[Spider-ManHero12]

Love Alex Ross Spider-Man
I remember back in 1996 seeing a picture from Marvel's with Spider-Man's back logo and thought "Why does it look different?"
I watched the movies using that Spider, loved it ever since Alex Ross is a fantastic artist. However, he's actually not one of my top 5 favorites.

[socool]

The colors are pale,

PLEASE tell me you are kidding. I can understand your other complaints, they're just your opinions, but the colors are OBVIOUSLY brighter than Raimi's.

[Spider-ManHero12]

But that doesn't make it better. The suit has a lot of changes and even some of my friends who don't like comics have noticed the changes. Raimi's suit? That's THE Spider-Man suit to them.

[Majik1387]

It's not a matter of it making it better when the complaint is clearly wrong.

Especially the complaint from the same person saying the front spider is red. ANyone with working eyes can call b.s. on that complaint as well.

[Spider-Aziz]

Alex Ross is a fantastic artist. However, he's actually not one of my top 5 favorites.
He's not among my top 10 artists when it comes to interiors, but among my top 5 cover artists

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah, he's great.

[socool]

But that doesn't make it better. The suit has a lot of changes and even some of my friends who don't like comics have noticed the changes. Raimi's suit? That's THE Spider-Man suit to them.

I never said it made it better. He may not like the colors, but pale they are not.

[webhead731]

I guess I got carried away looking at the end of the trailer. Sometimes the blue looks like a pale light blue and sometimes it's obnoxiously bright.

It's a garbage suit to me.

[Godzilla2014]

No, it managed to screw all that up too. The eyes don't look very intimidating or anything, not like they do in the comics or in Raimi's. The mirror eyes apparently work in posters only, because on screen and in pics they look like the 70s TV show (maybe it's the shape, who knows). The colors are pale, and the symbols have been like...dissected up in some fancy design that almost looks like a Transformers Autobot or Decepticon logo. What's more pathetic is that they just copied the Raimi spider and then elongated its legs and THEN cut it up. Like, even the new Batman movies have had the courtesy and creativity to make a different logo than the original series.
If they wanted to use the logo from the previous Spidey series they shouldn't have embarrassed it by slapping it on all kinds of ugly. :down



That's another thing, it looks like it's going to be some dark BatNolan wannabe which Spidey is NOT, and it has this horrid suit in it along with plenty of other just off or plain wrong things, and yet they interpret THIS as The Amazing Spider-Man? Like, when I think Amazing Spider-Man the opposite of the reboot is what I think. Raimi's films could be "The Amazing Spider-Man" more than what this is turning out to be. It'd be a shame for people to imagine THIS when they hear the Amazing Spider-Man.

That's like, if Batman and Robin had been called The Dark Knight. What a bad taste that would leave in peoples' mouths.

Wholeheartedly agree. If only it were called "The Spectacular Spider-Man" or something else.

[Anno_Domini]

How can someone say this suit is the ugliest seen in film?

What about the suit on Batman Forever? Singer's leather-fetish X-Men suits?

[webhead731]

How can someone say this suit is the ugliest seen in film?

What about the suit on Batman Forever? Singer's leather-fetish X-Men suits?

:pal:

First off, the X-Men suits worked really well for the tone and story of those movies, and costumes like Wolverine's had hints of the classic bits in them. That yellow/blue, yellow/brown would NEVER work.

The Batman Forever suit is fine, I don't know what you're talking about. He wore the suit at the end with the nip nips, which is dumb, but not as dumb as metal shoes or basketball texture. Look at this:

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad138/NocturnalVeil/Moviequizzes/batman-val-threequel.jpg

That>New Spider-Man

[Anno_Domini]

:pal:

First off, the X-Men suits worked really well for the tone and story of those movies, and costumes like Wolverine's had hints of the classic bits in them. That yellow/blue, yellow/brown would NEVER work.

The Batman Forever suit is fine, I don't know what you're talking about. He wore the suit at the end with the nip nips, which is dumb, but not as dumb as metal shoes or basketball texture. Look at this:

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad138/NocturnalVeil/Moviequizzes/batman-val-threequel.jpg

That>New Spider-Man

The yellow/blue works perfectly as seen in X-Men: First Class. Singer didn't need any leather suits my friend.

And I meant Batman and Robin, but still...all of the suits Schumacher used was a spit to the face on Batman. Schumacher wanted sexually-infused suits to show off Kilmer and Clooney's ass, crotch and nipples. That was it and you prefer that over the new Spidey suit? Please, get over yourself.

[Spider-Aziz]

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad138/NocturnalVeil/Moviequizzes/batman-val-threequel.jpg

That>New Spider-ManIt looks great, but it needed to loose the nipples and have more space for the dildo
Bones need space

[Anno_Domini]

"more space for the dildo"

Makes you wonder how scene kids can wear such tight pants.

[Majik1387]

I wonder if the Schumacher suits would have gotten as much hate if they didn't have the nipples.

[Anno_Domini]

No nipples and no shots of the ass and crotch and MAYBE the first Batman Forever suit would have gotten zero hate.

[Spider-Aziz]

No nipples and no shots of the ass and crotch and MAYBE the first Batman Forever suit would have gotten zero hate.
Agree on that

[Chris Wallace]

No nipples and no shots of the ass and crotch and MAYBE the first Batman Forever suit would have gotten zero hate.

Throw in the wraparound cape and it would've looked awesome.

[Chris Wallace]

That's not true. I'm not TRYING to defend the suit but to completely bypass the colors, the spider symbols on the front and back, and the eye design because you don't like the suit is crap. So there, that's three things it did right.

I don't like the symbols or the eye design, and I feel the colors are badly distibuted. I stand by my statement.

[Chris Wallace]

What if he doesn't like the colors, the spider-symbols, or the eye design?

Then I wouldn't FEEL that they got it right.

[Spider-Fan83]

the original suit, was pretty much as close to looking like the traditional comic suit as you could get (they didn't really make any radical changes) they very much took the safe route there..

so, I'll give the new suit credit for taking a risk (breaking from the traditional look)

tho, it does seem like it is change for the sake of change, to separate it self from the original costume
(there really wasn’t a whole lot they could of done to recreate the traditional look, without it looking like the same suit, even with changing up the textures, of web pattern, it would've still, more or less, looked like the same suit, that was already used) they wanted it to stand out, and make the difference noticeable (for at least the first movie)

[Chris Wallace]

the original suit, was pretty much as close to looking like the traditional comic suit as you could get (they didn't really make any radical changes) they very much took the safe route there..

so, I'll give the new suit credit for taking a risk (breaking from the traditional look)

tho, it does seem like it is change for the sake of change, to separate it self from the original costume(there really wasn’t a whole lot they could of done to recreate the traditional look, without it looking like the same suit, even with changing up the textures, of web pattern, it would've still, more or less, looked like the same suit, that was already used) they wanted it to stand out, and make the difference noticeable (for at least the first movie)

This is my problem w/the new suit. I feel like the only goal here was to make it different. Funny thing is, the only thing the original suit changed is the only thing the new suit kept the same.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm surprised there's even a debate about which is better. Rami's is obivously better no matter what, if you ask me. I like the new suit, but let's be honest, it's not as good as Raimi's.

Then again, everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

[roach]

I got to go with Raimi's suit and not because I'm a Raimi fan...but because I tend to go with the suit that closely resembles the comics...its why im not to crazy about the WW2 Cap suit but love the Avengers suit.

[Chris Wallace]

I got to go with Raimi's suit and not because I'm a Raimi fan...but because I tend to go with the suit that closely resembles the comics...its why im not to crazy about the WW2 Cap suit but love the Avengers suit.

:up: on both statements.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I got to go with Raimi's suit and not because I'm a Raimi fan...but because I tend to go with the suit that closely resembles the comics...its why im not to crazy about the WW2 Cap suit but love the Avengers suit. Exactly! :up:

[roach]

I said this in the costume thread...the new suit is a good Spider-man suit but its not THE Spider-man suit

[BrollySupersj]

I like them both as is. I would of liked it if the new spider suit had a differently designed emblem. I don't like how it used Raimi's. Other than that, they're both great.

[Anno_Domini]

I said this in the costume thread...the new suit is a good Spider-man suit but its not THE Spider-man suit

Neither is Raimi's if you think about it, lol.

[Spider-ManHero12]

But it's closer.


Still, I like the new suit, just not as much Raimi's.

[Anno_Domini]

It's close, yes, but to call it THE suit. Meh.

[roach]

It's close, yes, but to call it THE suit. Meh.

when I mention THE suit I am not talking about the Raimi suit...im talking about the comics

[Anno_Domini]

Ahh, see, that makes sense then.

My apologies.

[roach]

I am a traditionalist...however I can deal with minor tweeks or issues with costumes
I would have like the X-men comic costumes but it would have caused problems. Which costume do you use?
I liked the DD suit...its as close to the comics without throwing him in spandex type suit
I dislike the Nolan Bat suits
I dont like WW2 Cap but I like Avengers Cap
I liked Thor's suit...which he wore the helmet a bit more
Not excited about Hawkeye's look
The X-men FC looks were ok

I would have like Webbs design more if they did what every artist does on Spider-man....take the basic design and tweek it. Change the size of eyes, change the web pattern, change the colors

[Godzilla2014]

My reasons for going with the Raimi/Acheson design is that it not only doesn't "fix what isn't broke", but its amendments worked very well for the translation from the comics to the screen for modern audiences. I liked the updated spider-symbols, the little scale pattern, and the raised silver web-lines added a nice flair to the design, even if unnecessary. In essence, detail is added, but not much else is really changed.
What The Amazing Spider-Man should used for the costume is the same basic ideas, but with minor changes, like removing the silver embossed webbing and changing the shape of the eyes, and maybe even using black instead of blue (like in the original comics). That would have still looked like the classic Spider-Man costume from the comics, yet distinct from the previous design.

[Chris Wallace]

I'm surprised there's even a debate about which is better. Rami's is obivously better no matter what, if you ask me. I like the new suit, but let's be honest, it's not as good as Raimi's.

Then again, everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

I can respect differing opinions but some of the arguments aren't making sense. "It's better because the webbing isn't raised. It's better because the webbing is black. It's better because it has webshooters." (That last one in particular. Webshooters aren't supposed to be seen so why are we factoring their existence into the costume's appearance? That's like judging a costume based on the actor's underwear.) I said this in another thread, by that reasoning, this should be perfect.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/l_3ca6a318d3a744d8aef16e1dafb1bf5a.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x43/buddomonn/Buds%20Childhood%20Favorites/24a5.jpg

[roach]

I can respect differing opinions but some of the arguments aren't making sense. "It's better because the webbing isn't raised. It's better because the webbing is black. It's better because it has webshooters." (That last one in particular. Webshooters aren't supposed to be seen so why are we factoring their existence into the costume's appearance? That's like judging a costume based on the actor's underwear.) I said this in another thread, by that reasoning, this should be perfect.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/l_3ca6a318d3a744d8aef16e1dafb1bf5a.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x43/buddomonn/Buds%20Childhood%20Favorites/24a5.jpg

to be honest all it needed were webbing under the arms and it would be the suit from the books

[Godzilla2014]

to be honest all it needed were webbing under the arms and it would be the suit from the books

I don't really care for the underarm webbing. What purpose does it have that compensates for the constriction of movement?

[roach]

TbG9SKN7bBA

[Chris Wallace]

to be honest all it needed were webbing under the arms and it would be the suit from the books

Really? When did he have a single outboard webshooter and a bulky utility belt in the comics? And those lenses are horrific.

[Godzilla2014]

Really? When did he have a single outboard webshooter and a bulky utility belt in the comics? And those lenses are horrific.

I have to say I that those things being worn under the costume somehow not even making a bulge never made sense to me.

[Chris Wallace]

I have to say I that those things being worn under the costume somehow not even making a bulge never made sense to me.

In a world where Spider-Man can exist, you can't suspend disbelief enough to accept that?

[BrollySupersj]

I can respect differing opinions but some of the arguments aren't making sense. "It's better because the webbing isn't raised. It's better because the webbing is black. It's better because it has webshooters." (That last one in particular. Webshooters aren't supposed to be seen so why are we factoring their existence into the costume's appearance? That's like judging a costume based on the actor's underwear.) I said this in another thread, by that reasoning, this should be perfect.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/l_3ca6a318d3a744d8aef16e1dafb1bf5a.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x43/buddomonn/Buds%20Childhood%20Favorites/24a5.jpg

Ahhhhhh, my favorite Spider-Man costume.:awesome:


lol no.

But I did enjoy the series. Still do.

[Spider-ManHero12]

My reasons for going with the Raimi/Acheson design is that it not only doesn't "fix what isn't broke", but its amendments worked very well for the translation from the comics to the screen for modern audiences. I liked the updated spider-symbols, the little scale pattern, and the raised silver web-lines added a nice flair to the design, even if unnecessary. In essence, detail is added, but not much else is really changed.
What The Amazing Spider-Man should used for the costume is the same basic ideas, but with minor changes, like removing the silver embossed webbing and changing the shape of the eyes, and maybe even using black instead of blue (like in the original comics). That would have still looked like the classic Spider-Man costume from the comics, yet distinct from the previous design. Exactly, which is another reason why Raimi's was perfect.

[Chris Wallace]

But I did enjoy the series. Still do.

I can't say anything good about the series.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Nicolas Hammond was the enjoyable part and other than that, not much else at all.

[socool]

I can't say anything good about the series.

You negative nelly. :oldrazz:

[Godzilla2014]

In a world where Spider-Man can exist, you can't suspend disbelief enough to accept that?

Not unless that is an actual power that Spider-Man has. I'll make the miracle exemption for Spider-Man's spider-powers, but those don't cover webshooters disappearing when the costume is put on. Suspension of disbelief, in my opinion, does cover some things, but it shouldn't be a catch-all for any stupid ******** you didn't care to think about harder. Human with spider-powers? Covered. Said human's wrists and webshooters being thicker than his wrists, webshooters, and costume? Not covered.

[Spider-ManHero12]

But the show REALLY was not that good, besides Hammond.

[BrollySupersj]

But the show REALLY was not that good, besides Hammond.

Remember, to each their own.:cwink:

[Godzilla2014]

Exactly, which is another reason why Raimi's was perfect.

As a Spider-Man costume, it was. I think they could have done the classic costume without it looking just like the Acheson design. For example, I would be fine with removing the thick silver embossed webbing, not because it was bad, but because it was Acheson's own idea that was a change from the original design, and sort of a unique trademark to that design. Change the size and shape of the eyes, use different reds and blues or even black in lieu of blue, and you could have a significantly different look right there.

[Chris Wallace]

Not unless that is an actual power that Spider-Man has. I'll make the miracle exemption for Spider-Man's spider-powers, but those don't cover webshooters disappearing when the costume is put on. Suspension of disbelief, in my opinion, does cover some things, but it shouldn't be a catch-all for any stupid ******** you didn't care to think about harder. Human with spider-powers? Covered. Said human's wrists and webshooters being thicker than his wrists, webshooters, and costume? Not covered.
This looks more believable.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m228/SpiderGuile/BenReilly.jpg
This looks better.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/slipknotman/spider-man.jpg

[Godzilla2014]

This looks more believable.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m228/SpiderGuile/BenReilly.jpg
This looks better.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/slipknotman/spider-man.jpg

Not exactly a fair comparison, since those are very different costumes. Ben's costume is just as good in its context. The Ben Reilly outfit looks like another person's design for a Spider-Man costume, which it is.
I still think that the organic webshooters in the film worked better because of that. Believable without compromising the look.

[roach]

it was the 70's...i actually cant figure out how they did the wall crawling

[Godzilla2014]

it was the 70's...i actually cant figure out how they did the wall crawling

That's simple. Drugs.

[Spider-Aziz]

This looks more believable.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m228/SpiderGuile/BenReilly.jpg
Make the boots and glove (just to the wrist) all red and you'd get a great suit

[webhead731]

The yellow/blue works perfectly as seen in X-Men: First Class. Singer didn't need any leather suits my friend.

And I meant Batman and Robin, but still...all of the suits Schumacher used was a spit to the face on Batman. Schumacher wanted sexually-infused suits to show off Kilmer and Clooney's ass, crotch and nipples. That was it and you prefer that over the new Spidey suit? Please, get over yourself.

First of all, when I said yellow and blue I meant Wolverine's yellow and blue duds, that's why I mentioned it with brown and yellow. Hugh Jackman in First Class suit...picture that. :dry: First Class, in terms of lighting was a lighter film than Singer's movies. I can't imagine them walking around in the Statue of Liberty wearing the yellow suits from First Class. I just can't. It seems a bit hokey.
And how do you change from Batman Forever to B&R? Nice try backing out of that, but your argument is still silly.
Even Clooney's suit isn't as stupid or goofy looking as the ASM suit. :rolleyes: None of the Batcostumes are unless you pull in Adam West's
You and other fans, I think, just say things like that because you get blinded by George Clooney's goofy face/silly Batbutt shots, neon colored sets, Mr. Freeze, and all the other hootenanny Joel had going on. If you just take the goofballs out of the suits they are awesome (aside, again, from the nipnips).

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/Dragoness31/FFS%20Pics/Batmanbackground.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/darthchiro/movie%20suits/1140-0001a.jpg

Don't you dare tell me that's not at the very least passable looking as a Batsuit. Just no nipples. There's hardly a thing wrong with it.


I can respect differing opinions but some of the arguments aren't making sense. "It's better because the webbing isn't raised. It's better because the webbing is black. It's better because it has webshooters." (That last one in particular. Webshooters aren't supposed to be seen so why are we factoring their existence into the costume's appearance? That's like judging a costume based on the actor's underwear.) I said this in another thread, by that reasoning, this should be perfect.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/l_3ca6a318d3a744d8aef16e1dafb1bf5a.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x43/buddomonn/Buds%20Childhood%20Favorites/24a5.jpg

The costume looks silly but it's still better than the reboot's.

[Thundercrack85]

I had many issues with the Raimi trilogy, but the suit was not one of them. It was fine.

[Godzilla2014]

First of all, when I said yellow and blue I meant Wolverine's yellow and blue duds, that's why I mentioned it with brown and yellow. Hugh Jackman in First Class suit...picture that. :dry: First Class, in terms of lighting was a lighter film than Singer's movies. I can't imagine them walking around in the Statue of Liberty wearing the yellow suits from First Class. I just can't. It seems a bit hokey.
And how do you change from Batman Forever to B&R? Nice try backing out of that, but your argument is still silly.
Even Clooney's suit isn't as stupid or goofy looking as the ASM suit. :rolleyes: None of the Batcostumes are unless you pull in Adam West's
You and other fans, I think, just say things like that because you get blinded by George Clooney's goofy face/silly Batbutt shots, neon colored sets, Mr. Freeze, and all the other hootenanny Joel had going on. If you just take the goofballs out of the suits they are awesome (aside, again, from the nipnips).

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo240/Dragoness31/FFS%20Pics/Batmanbackground.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/darthchiro/movie%20suits/1140-0001a.jpg

Don't you dare tell me that's not at the very least passable looking as a Batsuit. Just no nipples. There's hardly a thing wrong with it.

It still would suck. I'll take body armor over a fake muscle suit any day.


The costume looks silly but it's still better than the reboot's.

Choosing between those two is like choosing between blowing your own brains or a cyanide capsule to kill yourself with.

I had many issues with the Raimi trilogy, but the suit was not one of them. It was fine.

Agreed.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Remember, to each their own.:cwink: I know, lol.

[Chris Wallace]

it was the 70's...i actually cant figure out how they did the wall crawling

What do you mean? You could see the wires.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Agreed. The show was corny as hell.

[Spider-Aziz]

I enjoyed it for being Spider-Man

[El Payaso]

Throw in the wraparound cape and it would've looked awesome.

If I'm, understanding well, I'd say the same for Nolan's suits.

[Chris Wallace]

Nolan's first suit HAD a wraparound cape.
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo300/xosarbear610/batman-bale.jpg
But it got tossed in the redesign, presumably so we could see the new suit in all its-ahem-glory.
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo289/mirror_isnt_big_enough/christian%20bale/thedarkknight.jpg

[Spider-Aziz]

It is a glorious suit

[Anno_Domini]

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo289/mirror_isnt_big_enough/christian%20bale/thedarkknight.jpg

God damn I love this scene.

[Chris Wallace]

You negative nelly. :oldrazz:

Bad costume, (once they added the bulky belt that served no purpose, shiny vinyl boots and standalone gloves) cheesy fx, (even by 70's standards-what the hell was up with that cotton webbing? It couldn't hold my daughter! And it took him, what, 3 hours to get up a building?) lame villains, no Uncle Ben, poorly staged fights, nothing that I loved about the Spider-Man comics was present here. Ugh.

[The Caped Knight]

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3184/92173327.jpg
There's no contest Raimi's costume is iconic and the best.

[Chris Wallace]

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3184/92173327.jpg
There's no contest Raimi's costume is iconic and the best.Beautifully put. Not that the pose you selected hurts anything.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/09a.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/08spi.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/w.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/shagwen.jpg

[El Payaso]

Nolan's first suit HAD a wraparound cape.
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo300/xosarbear610/batman-bale.jpg

Yeah, for good 35 seconds.

[Chris Wallace]

Hey-even Keaton ditched his when the time called for it.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q251/xasx25/MichaelKeatonBatman.jpg
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss349/legere_2009/Batman_keaton.jpg
I just prefer that it be a part of the costume. I think it's essential to the whole bat image. I don't see you disputing me.

[Spider-Aziz]

A paper bag costume made to look half like Iron Fist inspired costume and half Grafield suit would look best
:p

[Chris Wallace]

Huh? Where'd that come from?

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm confused as well.

[American_Hobo]

Tobey MaGuire suit.
No contest.
Andrew Garfield's one looks too cheap.

[Spider-Aziz]

Huh? Where'd that come from?

I'm confused as well.Where'd what come from where?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Your post confused me, lol.

[Spider-Aziz]

Dat uon aboff was no more dan a mere jok'
:D

[Spider-ManHero12]

lol, huh?

[Spider-Aziz]

I write like that sometimes
That one above was a joke

[Hobgoblin]

I dont hate the reboot costume but the changes weren't necessary. The original movie costume was perfect.

[Chris Wallace]

I write like that sometimes
That one above was a joke

I got that it was a joke. It was a confusing joke.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah, lol.

[EliteF50]

Tobey's costume. Easily.

[Spider-ManHero12]

It's good to know Tobey's suit is winning in the polls. It's a no brainer, if you ask me. :up:

[henzINNIT]

Raimi's film had the perfect outfit. With the reboot costume, I would have liked to see something a little more homemade. The changes they made serve no purpose other than to look different, whereas I would have focused on things that show the construction of the suit, how it goes on etc.

[Godzilla2014]

I dont hate the reboot costume but the changes weren't necessary. The original movie costume was perfect.

Agreed.

It's good to know Tobey's suit is winning in the polls. It's a no brainer, if you ask me. :up:

It's nice when people agree with me.

Raimi's film had the perfect outfit. With the reboot costume, I would have liked to see something a little more homemade. The changes they made serve no purpose other than to look different, whereas I would have focused on things that show the construction of the suit, how it goes on etc.

A homemade costume would not look like a Spider-Man costume, it would probably look like Peter Parker with a mask over his face.

[MarveliteSpider]

The original costume by a massive landslide. It is what I want my Spider-Man to look like in real life.

BUUUUT since this new movie is a reboot they couldn't have used the same costume. They needed to distance themselves so I understand why it's different. I just don't understand why it's SO different.

[SpiderVS.Evil]

Tobey has the better costume, but it wasn't perfect by any means

[MarveliteSpider]

Looking at the original costume, nothing comes to mind right off the bat as far as what needs to be changed. It's good all over. I can't say the same for other superhero costumes, because when I look at any other superhero in a movie I see something I'd change.

[Spider-Aziz]

BUUUUT since this new movie is a reboot they couldn't have used the same costume. They needed to distance themselves so I understand why it's different. I just don't understand why it's SO different.You're right, it could have used just changes to the colors and the web pattern, and the web not being raised, nothing more

[MarveliteSpider]

Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying.

[Godzilla2014]

Not that much, it could have used just changes to the colors and the web pattern, and the web not being raised, nothing more

Agree. Hell, you don't even need to make the web pattern flat, just make the web pattern lines thinner and color them black (so they look like the pencil drawn lines of the comics), and I think it would look distinct from Raimi's.

[Chris Wallace]

I posted this in a thread pertaining to Spidey's comic book costume after it somehow got steered off track and into a discussion of his movie duds:
When I look at this image,
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/spiderman-1.jpg
I see Spider-Man. I feel like I am looking at my favortie comics character come to life. This looks like the costume I have loved for decades, with all of the elements outlined in my initial post. They didn't change his look; they only enhanced it. And it's beautiful. There isn't one single thing that I would change.
But when I see this,
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd453/hazzyjonezpicturezzz/Spiderman-Garfield_510.jpg
I see a pretender, a knock-off, a wanna-be. Something with the very basic premise of a Spider-Man costume but none of its heart. This is the kind of abomination that I feared Hollywood was going to inflict on us 10 years ago, when I first saw Alex Ross' rejected designs. Instead we got a masterpiece, and then they turn around and downgrade it just for the sake of making something different.




I still feel that way. In fact, you know what Garfield's copstume reminds me of? Those unlicensed Mexican Spidey toys.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/image.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/2650033349_e9d8fcdee1_o.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/spiderman_doc_oct_001.jpg
It was like they didn't have permission to use Spidey's true image so they went with something passingly similar.

[Spider-Aziz]

I posted this in a thread pertaining to Spidey's comic book costume after it somehow got steered off track and into a discussion of his movie duds:


I still feel that way. In fact, you know what Garfield's copstume reminds me of? Those unlicensed Mexican Spidey toys.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/image.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/2650033349_e9d8fcdee1_o.jpgOh no, the spider in a diaper

[Chris Wallace]

An extreme example but I think I made my point.

[Spider-Aziz]

At least the new movie suit is nice, these are horrendous
Here's hoping for the BB -> TDK route where the costume design changes, but for the best

[webhead731]

At the rate this is going they had better not do a sequel.

[Spider-Aziz]

Why not?

[Majik1387]

Because he doesn't like the costume or direction.

[webhead731]

Simple as that. ^

[Spider-Aziz]

Simple as that. ^
You may like it more than Oscorp

[webhead731]

Who, the poster Oscorp? I don't know what he thinks.

Ever since day one this reboot was a forced in bad idea that has shown me nothing but garbage that is just embarrassing to me as a Spider-Man fan. They got a few good actors, (whoo hoo) but that doesn't mean much really.

[Majik1387]

But you liked Spider-Man 3, and you're saying this movie looks like garbage. :dry:

[webhead731]

But you liked Spider-Man 3, and you're saying this movie looks like garbage. :dry:

Plenty people liked Spider-Man 3. :confused:

I can admit that it, and even the first two have their flaws and stupid moments etc but at least for ME it captured what Spider-Man is and retold the story in a new way, yet it mostly stayed true to the comic books. I liked the actors and the direction quite a bit.

Where as this is being made simply because Raimi left Sony because they were pushy and rude. It looks like they are trying to make it dark and serious when it shouldn't be, the fact that they think almost 30 year old Andrew Garfield should be playing a 15 year old boy is laughable, the costume is atrocious and absolutely silly looking, and I think all the stuff with the parents could be left alone. None of the interviews have really impressed me in what they are trying to do with it. So the point is, nothing is impressive to me for this flick aside from some actors.

[Anno_Domini]

At the rate this is going they had better not do a sequel.

So one person thinks there shouldn't be a sequel because he doesn't like the costume or the direction. Yep, Sony will be listening just TO YOU.

[El Payaso]

I posted this in a thread pertaining to Spidey's comic book costume after it somehow got steered off track and into a discussion of his movie duds:


I still feel that way. In fact, you know what Garfield's copstume reminds me of? Those unlicensed Mexican Spidey toys.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/image.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/2650033349_e9d8fcdee1_o.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/spiderman_doc_oct_001.jpg
It was like they didn't have permission to use Spidey's true image so they went with something passingly similar.


That's exactly what I've said many times. The new suit looks like a cheap ilegal copy of the original. Changed for the sake of it, like if the designer didn't know (or care) for the original design.

Oh, but it's red and white and has webs, so it's good.

[Troy_Parker]

The new suit doesn't look like a cheap or illegal copy of anything. All I can see is a bunch of fanboys whining.

This suit is extremely well made, and looks like it.

It isn't as faithful as Raimi's suit, but it's still recognizably Spider-Man. Just because the suit isn't faithful doesn't mean the rest of the movie won't be.

Storyline and characters > suit.

[MarveliteSpider]

Doesn't look cheap but it's weird. I can live with it if the movie itself is good.

[Spider-Aziz]

But you liked Spider-Man 3, and you're saying this movie looks like garbage. :dry:It's a fun movie
That's exactly what I've said many times. The new suit looks like a cheap ilegal copy of the original. Changed for the sake of it, like if the designer didn't know (or care) for the original design.

Oh, but it's red and white and has webs, so it's good.There are a few designs similar to the reboot one in "With Great Power"

[El Payaso]

The new suit doesn't look like a cheap or illegal copy of anything. All I can see is a bunch of fanboys whining.

This suit is extremely well made, and looks like it.

The suit doesn't look cheap. The suit looks like a cheap imitation. Like those toys where nobody cared too much for doing a good design but just pout the basics (red, blue, webs) in whatever the order was.

That said, unlike the reboot suit, some of those toys got the webs right.

It isn't as faithful as Raimi's suit, but it's still recognizably Spider-Man.

Those toys are also recognizable as Spiderman.

Just because the suit isn't faithful doesn't mean the rest of the movie won't be.

I don't care for it to be unfaithful. Problem is that it's ugly and the design is poorly thought.





It's a fun movie
There are a few designs similar to the reboot one in "With Great Power"

Great. What does that mean?

I've seen some Zebra-Batman in comics. I just hope I wopn't see anything similar in movies.

[Chris Wallace]

That's exactly what I've said many times. The new suit looks like a cheap ilegal copy of the original. Changed for the sake of it, like if the designer didn't know (or care) for the original design.Oh, but it's red and white and has webs, so it's good.

Did you just cosign on possibly my most controversial post on the thread?

[webhead731]

So one person thinks there shouldn't be a sequel because he doesn't like the costume or the direction. Yep, Sony will be listening just TO YOU.

:doh:

If I wanted Sony to hear that I'd email them. I was saying that it better not get a sequel, I wasn't telling anybody higher up that. Jeez.

[Anno_Domini]

Saying "At the rate this is going they had better not do a sequel." is as bad as any of my so-called Spider-Man 3 "bashing", imo.

[Spider-Aziz]

Great. What does that mean?Only that this suit kind of showed in some comics, meant in continuity, but I can't seem to fit them in.
Continue
I've seen some Zebra-Batman in comics. I just hope I wopn't see anything similar in movies.LOL
I'm hoping I find an episode of Adam West's Batman with the rainbow suits

[Chris Wallace]

So one person thinks there shouldn't be a sequel because he doesn't like the costume or the direction. Yep, Sony will be listening just TO YOU.

He's not trying to sway anybody; he was just stating an opinion.

[Anno_Domini]

http://fortresstakes.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/batman_brave_bold_season_2_rainbow_super_planet_x_ uncle_sam_spacesuit.jpg?w=490&h=576

[Spider-Aziz]

http://fortresstakes.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/batman_brave_bold_season_2_rainbow_super_planet_x_ uncle_sam_spacesuit.jpg?w=490&h=576
Only the suit on him when he's near Guy is good

[Chris Wallace]

http://fortresstakes.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/batman_brave_bold_season_2_rainbow_super_planet_x_ uncle_sam_spacesuit.jpg?w=490&h=576

Dear God. I guess the point of this is, it could be worse.

[Anno_Domini]

Gotta love the Patriot suit.

[webhead731]

Saying "At the rate this is going they had better not do a sequel." is as bad as any of my so-called Spider-Man 3 "bashing", imo.

Okay. You want a hug? :confused:

[Anno_Domini]

Not from a Spidey fan :oldrazz:

[El Payaso]

Did you just cosign on possibly my most controversial post on the thread?

Yes, I did suscribe to it. Don't think that making a point is controversial.

[Godzilla2014]

Did you just cosign on possibly my most controversial post on the thread?

I will as well.

[Chris Wallace]

Yes, I did suscribe to it. Don't think that making a point is controversial.

I sadi that because I myself see it as an extreme (yet accurate) comparison. ANd I just KNEW I was gonna get flamed for it. Instead I get support from someone I typically disagree with. Quite frankly I didn't think ANYBODY else had voiced such an argument.

[Troy_Parker]

The suit doesn't look cheap. The suit looks like a cheap imitation. Like those toys where nobody cared too much for doing a good design but just pout the basics (red, blue, webs) in whatever the order was.

That said, unlike the reboot suit, some of those toys got the webs right.



Those toys are also recognizable as Spiderman.



I don't care for it to be unfaithful. Problem is that it's ugly and the design is poorly thought.







Great. What does that mean?

I've seen some Zebra-Batman in comics. I just hope I wopn't see anything similar in movies.

This suit isn't "ugly" or anything. Chances are, if you got a carefully lit shot of the new suit, you probably wouldn't even know it has a few minor changes.

[Spider-Aziz]

This suit isn't "ugly" or anything. Chances are, if you got a carefully lit shot of the new suit, you probably wouldn't even know it has a few minor changes.
Too dark a shot?

[Troy_Parker]

Huh?

[Spider-Aziz]

A shot well lit not showing the minor details

[Troy_Parker]

Yes. lol

[Chris Wallace]

This suit isn't "ugly" or anything. Chances are, if you got a carefully lit shot of the new suit, you probably wouldn't even know it has a few minor changes.

That is a load of crap. And it's very telling that you would argue we would have to see ths suit under different lighting in order to like it. (I've heard similar arguments about unattractive women.) It doesn't have a "few minor changes" and the difference can be told in ANY light. The Entertainment Weekly spread is perfectly lit and we can see it looks horrendous. This pic isn't "carefully lit" and we can see exactly what we're getting.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/spiderman3-2.jpg

[Troy_Parker]

One thing I made unclear was is that by "minor changes" I meant the current suit and the comic suit, not the current suit and the Raimi suit.

It's all a matter of opinion tbh. If it was as "ugly" as some people are making it out to be, it wouldn't have been used, plain and simple.

[Chris Wallace]

One thing I made unclear was is that by "minor changes" I meant the current suit and the comic suit, not the current suit and the Raimi suit.
I don't think anyone was unclear on this. Either way it's not minor changes we're talking about here. The truth is, the only thing the Raimi suit changed was the only thing the Webb suit kept the same; black web-lines.

It's all a matter of opinion tbh. If it was as "ugly" as some people are making it out to be, it wouldn't have been used, plain and simple.

Right, because Hollywood doesn't make mistakes or go forward with bad ideas.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/951077-clooney-039-s-batman-worst-movie.jpg

[Anno_Domini]

I'd still do Alicia Silverstone though.

[Godzilla2014]

I don't think anyone was unclear on this. Either way it's not minor changes we're talking about here. The truth is, the only thing the Raimi suit changed was the only thing the Webb suit kept the same; black web-lines.


Right, because Hollywood doesn't make mistakes or go forward with bad ideas.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/951077-clooney-039-s-batman-worst-movie.jpg

My eyes! Ah, precious brain bleach thy name is alcohol, erase my memory of seeing these horrors!
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w318/camacho214/Funny/Alcohol.jpg

[Spider-Aziz]

I'd still do Alicia Silverstone though.
She's too old now

[Chris Wallace]

You don't know how old AD is.

[socool]

I don't think anyone was unclear on this. Either way it's not minor changes we're talking about here. The truth is, the only thing the Raimi suit changed was the only thing the Webb suit kept the same; black web-lines.

What about the basic layout or the red-n-blue? I'm not trying to sway your opinion in anyway or judge you, but your hate seems to be making you overlook what IS right with the suit. Lord knows there is a lot wrong, not that I mind too much myself, but I just want to see what your idea there. (That's going to come off poorly, please don't take it that way.)

Right, because Hollywood doesn't make mistakes or go forward with bad ideas.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/951077-clooney-039-s-batman-worst-movie.jpgEvery possible thing wrong with a movie can be seen in that one. It sorta loses credibility after the 6th or 7th millionth time it's used. :p

[Chris Wallace]

What about the basic layout or the red-n-blue? I'm not trying to sway your opinion in anyway or judge you, but your hate seems to be making you overlook what IS right with the suit. Lord knows there is a lot wrong, not that I mind too much myself, but I just want to see what your idea there. (That's going to come off poorly, please don't take it that way.)



The basic layout was CHANGED. The red and blue was CHANGED, in that it was redistributed. And trust me, if I saw anything right about the suit I would acknowledge it. I hat ethe eyes, I hate the fabric, I hate the gloves, I hate the boots, I hate the streaks in the leggings. I especially hate those big-ass Coke bottle-sized outlet nozzles on the wrists. I say what I said before, it looks like an unlicensed knock-off. An opinion in which, as I recently discovered, I am not alone.

[Spider-Aziz]

You don't know how old AD is.
I expect someone near my age, mid twenties

[socool]

The basic layout was CHANGED. The red and blue was CHANGED, in that it was redistributed. And trust me, if I saw anything right about the suit I would acknowledge it. I hat ethe eyes, I hate the fabric, I hate the gloves, I hate the boots, I hate the streaks in the leggings. I especially hate those big-ass Coke bottle-sized outlet nozzles on the wrists. I say what I said before, it looks like an unlicensed knock-off. An opinion in which, as I recently discovered, I am not alone.

I meant basic layout as in the very, very basic way that things are placed. (Strip down the body, boots up almost up to the knees, red strip down the arm, those things) They are changed, it's true, but it's still there technically. I know it's a crappy argument for you probably, but it works for me. And by red-n-blue, I meant in color. The suit is still red-n-blue.

And I know you aren't alone, and I respect that. Spidey is your favorite character, so much that it pains you to see so much changed. I ESPECIALLY respect that you don't throw your negative opinions in with the positive ones so much, just when it's necessary. Some people just like to be negative because they like to start flame wars. :whatever: So thank you for that.

[Chris Wallace]

I can disagree without being disagreeable.

[Chris Wallace]

I expect someone near my age, mid twenties

AD might like cougars.

[Anno_Domini]

She's only 34, lol, and she's still hot.

But, yes, I also like cougars as well.

[Chris Wallace]

See?

[Spider-Aziz]

She's only 34, lol, and she's still hot.Too old

But, yes, I also like cougars as well.

See?Ci

[Chris Wallace]

Wow. So far this poll isn't even remotely close.

[MarveliteSpider]

Maguire costume takes home the gold. :spidey:

[Chris Wallace]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/tumblr_lfha13nbcO1qzrsm4o1_500.jpgLOL.

[MarveliteSpider]

:hehe:

[Spider-Aziz]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/tumblr_lfha13nbcO1qzrsm4o1_500.jpgLOL.
Garfield takes lasagna
Why apologize to Lee? Ditko

[Troy_Parker]

I don't think anyone was unclear on this. Either way it's not minor changes we're talking about here. The truth is, the only thing the Raimi suit changed was the only thing the Webb suit kept the same; black web-lines.


Right, because Hollywood doesn't make mistakes or go forward with bad ideas.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/951077-clooney-039-s-batman-worst-movie.jpg

Lol, pull up the Batman & Robin example like everybody else. :funny:

I still don't get what you're trying to say. Those suits look too random, silver patches and ****. It's not like this Spider-Man suit has big patches of yellow everywhere or something. :S ...Apart from the tiny metal things on the shoes and the lack of the belt, it still has essentially the same layout, it's just going a different way about the overall suit.

Key differences:

- Raised texture (the Raimi suit had the hexagons, it's just more raised in this suit)

- No belt

- Metal strip on the shoes

- And the stripe going down the leg. I could have done without it, but it fits in with the stripe going down his arm. It's not like the stripe's a silly colour or anything.

[El Payaso]

I sadi that because I myself see it as an extreme (yet accurate) comparison. ANd I just KNEW I was gonna get flamed for it. Instead I get support from someone I typically disagree with. Quite frankly I didn't think ANYBODY else had voiced such an argument.

Ah, people disagree all the time. But I try to give the credit where it's due. I can't see where the new design is coming from. What's the need for the changes. I get Batman suit benefits from armour and being black, but this new Spiderman design... does nothing but look different fror the sake of it.



This suit isn't "ugly" or anything. Chances are, if you got a carefully lit shot of the new suit, you probably wouldn't even know it has a few minor changes.

Lol, the changes are all over the suit. I don't need a magnifying glass to see that they got the webs wrong, that hideous indentation on the back design (like they had run out of space for the back's spider) and those snickers.


It's all a matter of opinion tbh. If it was as "ugly" as some people are making it out to be, it wouldn't have been used, plain and simple.

I see. So if movies were bad, they wouldn't have been made. Plain and simple. Jesus, there aren't any bads movies and I didn't know it. There aren't any bad designs out there, because Hollywood wouldn't make anything that's bad. Wow.

[El Payaso]

I still don't get what you're trying to say.

Ah, yes you do.

Those suits look too random, silver patches and ****.

See how you do get the point?

It's not like this Spider-Man suit has big patches of yellow everywhere or something. :S ...Apart from the tiny metal things on the shoes and the lack of the belt, it still has essentially the same layout, it's just going a different way about the overall suit.

Those metal things on his shoes are as ugly, uneeded and disservicing as the ones in the B&R suits.

But that's far from being the only bad thing.

Key differences:

- Raised texture (the Raimi suit had the hexagons, it's just more raised in this suit)

- No belt

- Metal strip on the shoes

- And the stripe going down the leg. I could have done without it, but it fits in with the stripe going down his arm. It's not like the stripe's a silly colour or anything.

You forget the back's indentation and the fact that Spiderman doesn't have webs but some lines that make his head look like a school globe. And the gloves are blue. And some portions of red don't have those random lines that the designer thought would be interpreted as spider-webs.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Maguire costume takes home the gold. :spidey: Indeed.

[Troy_Parker]

Ah **** it.

Honestly, it's cool that you like the Raimi suit and everything, but calling a new version of the suit "ugly" is just stupid.

I'm not going to argue anymore, if you like it, fine. If you don't, fine. This suit looks miles better to me than Raimi's.

[Spider-Aziz]

those snickershttp://munchymart.com/images/snickers.jpg
So good

[Troy_Parker]

:hehe:

[Chris Wallace]

Ah, yes you do.



See how you do get the point?



Those metal things on his shoes are as ugly, uneeded and disservicing as the ones in the B&R suits.

But that's far from being the only bad thing.



You forget the back's indentation and the fact that Spiderman doesn't have webs but some lines that make his head look like a school globe. And the gloves are blue. And some portions of red don't have those random lines that the designer thought would be interpreted as spider-webs.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Across the board. We were bound to agree sometime.

[Chris Wallace]

Honestly, it's cool that you like the Raimi suit and everything, but calling a new version of the suit "ugly" is just stupid.
I'm not going to argue anymore, if you like it, fine. If you don't, fine. This suit looks miles better to me than Raimi's.

Voicing an opinion is stupid? If you think it's ugly, what are you supposed to say? It's "aesthetically challenged"? We're not calling it ugly for the sake of being disagreeable; we're calling it ugly because in our eyes it is.
It's fine if you prefer the new suit. We don't. Some of us outright hate it. You seem to want us to respect your opinion but are unwilling to do the same.

[Troy_Parker]

Aeshetically challenged seems more politically correct, so yes.

:hehe:

Fair enough. What I'm talking about is the people overreacting to this new suit. The people who are acting as if Andrew's in a pink leotard with a spider symbol... and the people who are drawing comparisons with this and knockoff toys. I mean, seriously? Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it's not crazy. Which more often than not on these boards, it is. :dry:

[Chris Wallace]

If we're reminded of knockoff toys, we're going to say so. It's like the suit's defenders don't want its detractors to say anything at all. I know what it's like to defend the minority opinion but I don't resort to words like "crazy" and "stupid" just because someone doesn't agree with me, or has an extreme dislike of something that I defend.

[Troy_Parker]

Fair enough, I don't have an extreme dislike of the Raimi suit though, don't get me wrong.

It's just in terms of overall tone, I don't think something like the Raimi suit would fit in the universe they're creating for this movie.

[Chris Wallace]

Fair enough, I don't have an extreme dislike of the Raimi suit though, don't get me wrong.

It's just in terms of overall tone, I don't think something like the Raimi suit would fit in the universe they're creating for this movie.

Apparently nothing that actually looks like Spider-Man would.

[Troy_Parker]

So now the new suit doesn't look like Spider-Man?

[Chris Wallace]

I'm pretty sure that's what I said, and what I've BEEN saying in numerous posts stating that it looks like a cheap, unlicensed knock-off. THIS looks like Spider-Man.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/n_aCAORXZL9.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/n_aCAZ0EFN2.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/spider-man-2.jpgThe lenses, the color patterning, the webs, the fact that I can't see his eyes in any light-all modeled directly on the original Spider-Man design in the comics. They raised the webs to give it flair and they modified the symbols to look more spider-like. Other than that they kept the integrity of his look in every way.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/Spidey/detail.jpg
This, in my honest, heartfelt opinion, does not.
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff444/lealani_2011/AmazingSpiderMan.jpg

[Troy_Parker]

If you mean the new suit doesn't look like the classic Spider-Man suit we all know and love, I agree.

If you mean the new suit looks nothing like Spider-Man, then this argument is over. I can't make you see something that's right in front of you if you don't want to.

[Chris Wallace]

If you mean the new suit doesn't look like the classic Spider-Man suit we all know and love, I agree.

If you mean the new suit looks nothing like Spider-Man, then this argument is over. I can't make you see something that's right in front of you if you don't want to.

To me, they're one and the same. RECOGNIZABLE as Spider-Man and LOOKING like SPider-Man are two completely different things in my book. I can recognize any of these images as Spider-Man.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o139/Xeiji/Anime/Animated/Alex_Ross_Spiderman_by_spyder8108.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/SpiderOld03.jpghttp://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/KneonT/Japan_Spidey.jpghttp://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b430/alextumblr/kbc22.jpghttp://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/norse1230/Iron_Spidey_costume.jpg
But when I look at them I just see sorry, second-rate imitations of a classic design. Same goes for Webb's suit.

[Troy_Parker]

Fair enough, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. :)

[El Payaso]

Ah **** it.

Honestly, it's cool that you like the Raimi suit and everything, but calling a new version of the suit "ugly" is just stupid.

I'm not going to argue anymore, if you like it, fine. If you don't, fine. This suit looks miles better to me than Raimi's.

Heh. First of all, I'm not even compating the new suit to Raimi's. I'm just appreaciating it as Spiderman suit.

When you get the spider-webs wrong, then something seriously bad happened.




So good

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/mrbungle_08/basura/s3harry-winkjd.gif




You took the words right out of my mouth. Across the board. We were bound to agree sometime.

:up:






What I'm talking about is the people overreacting to this new suit. The people who are acting as if Andrew's in a pink leotard with a spider symbol... and the people who are drawing comparisons with this and knockoff toys. I mean, seriously?

And accurately. Those toys presents some really odd designs. The new suit does too.

Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it's not crazy. Which more often than not on these boards, it is. :dry:

Like saying the new suit is better than Raimi's?



If you mean the new suit doesn't look like the classic Spider-Man suit we all know and love, I agree.

If you mean the new suit looks nothing like Spider-Man, then this argument is over. I can't make you see something that's right in front of you if you don't want to.

Those toys aldso looked like Spiderman, what can I say. But I'd stick to a better design, 100% faithful or not.

[Chris Wallace]

Heh. First of all, I'm not even compating the new suit to Raimi's. I'm just appreaciating it as Spiderman suit.

When you get the spider-webs wrong, then something seriously bad happened.








This. I think I could forgive just about everything else if the webs looked like webs and ran consistently through the red, like they do in EVERY SUIT SPIDEY HAS EVER WORN.

[Chris Wallace]

fair enough, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. :)

finally.

[Spider-Aziz]

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/mrbungle_08/basura/s3harry-winkjd.gifCorrrrect, almost, close enough

[roach]

from an interview with Webb:

We paid attention to the question of ‘How would a kid make it?’ And obviously we took some license with it. We also wanted a design that would make the body longer and more lithe, more of an acrobat, someone incredibly agile, and the legs of the spider [symbol on the chest] were something we used to emphasize that. We made a bunch of different suits for different lighting conditions. I wanted something that worked in the night a little better. We paid attention to that and also made the webbing [on the costume] a little bit darker. With the costume and the web-shooters we wanted to emphasize that these are things that Peter Parker made and that he is special himself even if he feels like he’s an outsider.

[Chris Wallace]

Even with that explanation, the design fails on every level. Is he saying Peter doesn't know what a web looks like?

[socool]

Even with that explanation, the design fails on every level. Is he saying Peter doesn't know what a web looks like?

Maybe it's too complicated for his limited ability. :awesome:

But seriously, this doesn't justify the idea, but not all spider-webs look like the ones on the classic suit, so technically he does know what a web looks like.

[Chris Wallace]

You say that knowing it doesn't justify it. Ha.

[roach]

I think flash thompson deflates a basket ball on Peter's head and he goes home and turns it into a costume

[socool]

You say that knowing it doesn't justify it. Ha.

Yeah? And? I was simply stating that not all spider webs are curved, but they should be curved because it's more...I dunno, stylish?

[Chris Wallace]

The suit's defenders are gonna get tired of basketball jokes real soon.

[socool]

The suit's defenders are gonna get tired of basketball jokes real soon.

They are tiresome and I'm not even a defender. Although, I can't blame the jokes. Some parts of the suit do kinda look like a basketball.

[Spider-ManHero12]

edit

[Troy_Parker]

Why are they being called basketball jokes?

Jokes are supposed to be funny. :dry:

I think it's the texture of the suit more than anything. If the texture was flatter, it wouldn't draw as many comparisons as it does to a basketball.

[MarveliteSpider]

Found these on Spider-Man Crawl Space.

http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/spider_signals.jpg

http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Spideys.jpg

[webhead731]

:pal:

[webhead731]

from an interview with Webb:

We paid attention to the question of ‘How would a kid make it?’ And obviously we took some license with it. We also wanted a design that would make the body longer and more lithe, more of an acrobat, someone incredibly agile, and the legs of the spider [symbol on the chest] were something we used to emphasize that. We made a bunch of different suits for different lighting conditions. I wanted something that worked in the night a little better. We paid attention to that and also made the webbing [on the costume] a little bit darker. With the costume and the web-shooters we wanted to emphasize that these are things that Peter Parker made and that he is special himself even if he feels like he’s an outsider.

Gee Webb, and this new suit is okay with you? :rolleyes:

After reading that I'd imagine the suit looking cool.

[El Payaso]

This. I think I could forgive just about everything else if the webs looked like webs and ran consistently through the red, like they do in EVERY SUIT SPIDEY HAS EVER WORN.

I know. Webs, the shoes thing and the infamous indentation. Change that and you have a nice variation of the classic.


Corrrrect, almost, close enough

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/mrbungle_08/basura/s3harry-winkjd.gif




from an interview with Webb:

We paid attention to the question of ‘How would a kid make it?’ And obviously we took some license with it. We also wanted a design that would make the body longer and more lithe, more of an acrobat, someone incredibly agile, and the legs of the spider [symbol on the chest] were something we used to emphasize that. We made a bunch of different suits for different lighting conditions. I wanted something that worked in the night a little better. We paid attention to that and also made the webbing [on the costume] a little bit darker. With the costume and the web-shooters we wanted to emphasize that these are things that Peter Parker made and that he is special himself even if he feels like he’s an outsider.

I don't get how the suit is more 'made by a kid' than the classic one.




But seriously, this doesn't justify the idea, but not all spider-webs look like the ones on the classic suit, so technically he does know what a web looks like.

That doesn't look like any web. It looks more like a globe or a basketball. And I'm talking about the lines, not the texture.




Why are they being called basketball jokes?

They're jokes. They have to do with basketball.

Jokes are supposed to be funny. :dry:

Only if you get them.

I think it's the texture of the suit more than anything. If the texture was flatter, it wouldn't draw as many comparisons as it does to a basketball.

I like the texture. That's not the problem for me.

[Troy_Parker]

I know. Webs, the shoes thing and the infamous indentation. Change that and you have a nice variation of the classic.




http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/mrbungle_08/basura/s3harry-winkjd.gif






I don't get how the suit is more 'made by a kid' than the classic one.






That doesn't look like any web. It looks more like a globe or a basketball. And I'm talking about the lines, not the texture.






They're jokes. They have to do with basketball.

funny.

Only if you get them.



I like the texture. That's not the problem for me.

You have got to be brain dead if you find those pathetic excuses for jokes funny.

[Chris Wallace]

Why are they being called basketball jokes?

Jokes are supposed to be funny. :dry:

I think it's the texture of the suit more than anything. If the texture was flatter, it wouldn't draw as many comparisons as it does to a basketball.

Basketball references, then.

[Chris Wallace]

Gee Webb, and this new suit is okay with you? :rolleyes:

After reading that I'd imagine the suit looking cool.

You would, wouldn't you?

[Chris Wallace]

Found these on Spider-Man Crawl Space.

The first image is hilarious and pretty spot-on. The second has me baffled at the argument that the new suit looks more like Spidey than the old one.

[Spider-Aziz]

http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/spider_signals.jpg
I like the WTF school more as cloth material than spider-signal

[Chris Wallace]

I'v enever bought the argument that the suit needs to look like it was made by a kid. Why? It never did before. For 40 years we've been looking at a professional looking costume and we liked it! Does Daredevil's suit look like a blind guy stitched it together? No. Does Superman's suit look like a farmer's wife sewed it from baby blankets? No. Superheroes should look like superheroes, regardless of whatever arguments are made in the name of realism. We suspend disbelief enough to buy the idea that these people could exist. We can buy the idea that they suddenly became expert tailors, too.

[Spider-Aziz]

How did Mrs. Kent manage to sew her son's suit from clothes that cannot be pierced by bullets? They were pierced by a needle
Yeah, we did suspend our disbelief too much to care for how real that is, aesthetics beat belief