The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - Part 7

[Dragon_316ca]

http://www.bedfordshire-news.co.uk/News/Scrapman-steps-in-to-help-Batman-22072011.htm

Simply Recycling Solutions Ltd in Mile Road, Bedford, has produced the used material for a scene involving a Siberian Prisoner of War camp for Batman: The Dark Knight Rises.

[Gianakin_]

Bane is, of course, the first name that pops to my head.

[Hunter Rider]

I'm not sure why Bruce would be in a Siberian prison but the first thing that came into my mind was the place we see him doing the push ups.

[kvz5]

Siberian prison camp? I love how this movie always surprises me with the details. I guess it's either Bane was from that prison or Bruce was imprisoned there.

[Nevincer]

Perhaps those rumours being tossed around of Bruce Wayne exploring possible League of Shadows hideouts was correct. Perhaps he investigates some sort of movement to reform the League, nuetralizes it, then gets thrown into the Siberian prison doing so, meets Bane and has a fight of some sort, and then after Bruce escapes or is taken out of custody Bane breaks out and follows him to Gotham and seeks to destroy him?

[Nevincer]

Talking with a friend at Church. Nolan wouldn't kill off the Bat..... Would he?
We have a Batman 'to die, or not to die' thread for this discussion. Take it there.

[kvz5]

Perhaps those rumours being tossed around of Bruce Wayne exploring possible League of Shadows hideouts was correct. Perhaps he investigates some sort of movement to reform the League, nuetralizes it, then gets thrown into the Siberian prison doing so, meets Bane and has a fight of some sort, and then after Bruce escapes or is taken out of custody Bane breaks out and follows him to Gotham and seeks to destroy him?

Possible! Maybe Bruce intentionally imprisons himself to investigate something?

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[Nevincer]

Possible! Maybe Bruce intentionally imprisons himself to investigate something?
That would also be interesting. Heck, just the idea of Bruce going all over the world and making sacrifices for his detective work makes me giddy. :awesome: Love that side of Batman and want to see more of it in this trilogy!

[Excelsior.]

The almighty dollar seduces old Luke Skywalker to return one "last" time eh?

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Siberian prisoner of War? Interesting. What is Bane doing in Siberia?

[Nightrunner]

Hello everyone, new poster here. I read somewhere that Ras al Gul will be in this. Is that confirmed? Will Liam Neeson be playing him?

[kvz5]

Siberian prisoner of War? Interesting. What is Bane doing in Siberia?

We don't know if that scene is for Bane.

[MagnarTheGreat]

Hello everyone, new poster here. I read somewhere that Ras al Gul will be in this. Is that confirmed? Will Liam Neeson be playing him?

Two people, according to The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/social-network-actor-lands-role-176577), Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118038640), and Hitfix (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/exclusive-what-batman-star-shot-a-scene-for-dark-knight-rises-on-monday).

Josh Pence (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150658628760103) and Neeson.

http://i.imgur.com/UxC08.jpg

[Nightrunner]

Thanks Magnar. That's very interesting. I love Liam Neeson, glad to see him come back.

[Nevincer]

Two people, according to The Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/social-network-actor-lands-role-176577), Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118038640), and Hitfix (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/exclusive-what-batman-star-shot-a-scene-for-dark-knight-rises-on-monday).

Josh Pence (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150658628760103) and Neeson.

http://i.imgur.com/UxC08.jpg
That's a lovely pic of Pence. Has that 'Al Ghul' look we saw in the spy pics there.

[kvz5]

Yeah, that was his pic in India.

[Hunter Rider]

Perhaps those rumours being tossed around of Bruce Wayne exploring possible League of Shadows hideouts was correct. Perhaps he investigates some sort of movement to reform the League, nuetralizes it, then gets thrown into the Siberian prison doing so, meets Bane and has a fight of some sort, and then after Bruce escapes or is taken out of custody Bane breaks out and follows him to Gotham and seeks to destroy him?

Interesting theory and it could mean the prison break filming in Pittsburgh may be Bruce escaping after all.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Yeah maybe Bruce gets imprisoned. in Siberia.

[kvz5]

Interesting theory and it could mean the prison break filming in Pittsburgh may be Bruce escaping after all.

I'm starting to consider the possibility that the prison breakout is for Bruce as well.

[Nevincer]

Yeah, that was his pic in India.
Really? I don't remember seeing it :csad: Just that one of him crouching down near a store or whatever.

Edit:
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5393/19488450.jpg

This in question is the only pic I've seen of Pence in India.

[kvz5]

Really? I don't remember seeing it :csad: Just that one of him crouching down near a store or whatever.

Edit:
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5393/19488450.jpg

This in question is the only pic I've seen of Pence in India.

There's a pic of him with one of the India guys on FB.

[Hunter Rider]

I'm starting to consider the possibility that the prison breakout is for Bruce as well.

I'd prefer it actually, seeing Bruce's ingenuity in escaping a prison would be a great sequence.

[Nevincer]

I'd prefer it actually, seeing Bruce's ingenuity in escaping a prison would be a great sequence.
Agreed. That and the reported Burning Plane sequence would make me a very excited Batfan :woot:

[imposserus]

if some one is driving a motorcycle through the second floor and out a window at the prison break in the burg,... i'm seeing the bat pod

seems batpod-ish to me

[MiniBond]

if some one is driving a motorcycle through the second floor and out a window at the prison break in the burg,... i'm seeing the bat pod

seems batpod-ish to me

wait for a remote controlled Batpod just like the batmobile in 89 :awesome::woot:

[imposserus]

wait for a remote controlled Batpod just like the batmobile in 89 :awesome::woot:

the t(ank)umbler was on remote in the parking garage before he ran into the dogs right?


loiter/intimidate was badder n hell by the way

[MiniBond]

the t(ank)umbler was on remote in the parking garage before he ran into the dogs right?


loiter/intimidate was badder n hell by the way


yep... forgot about that !:doh::woot:

[thatsabadoutfit]

I'm not sure why Bruce would be in a Siberian prison but the first thing that came into my mind was the place we see him doing the push ups.

The first thing that came to my mind was the prison camp he was in at the beginning of Batman Begins. That's where Ra's found him. And it was an unknown but Siberian looking place as well. Maybe Bruce ends up back there somehow someway and gets locked up by the League of Shadows?

[BlueLantern]

It was Bhutan.

[QueenChaos]

Siberian Prisoner of War hm? Innnnteresting...

[Doctor Who]

I wonder if we might be getting a piece of The Last Night in Arkham?

My guess this siberian prison shoot might just be for Bane; this is this taking place at CMU?

[venus_ice]

Could be in conjunction with the scenes of Bane with the soldiers and the crashed plane

[Nevincer]

I can't help but feel depressed that we've hit another news drought. :csad: I still don't know the plot of the movie, and the teaser fell short footage-wise... and december is so far away... :dry:

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I know we have been following The Dark Knight's marketing trajectory as a guideline... but perhaps Inception would be the logical suggestion.

Which is... unfortunate. :csad:

[Pagan]

I wonder if we might be getting a piece of The Last Night in Arkham?

My guess this siberian prison shoot might just be for Bane; this is this taking place at CMU?

The Times of India said Bale was there at fortress,pits location.

No mention of any of the other stars I don't believe. Although I've heard rumors of Pence and Joey King being "awol" from their private lives during that time.

[kvz5]

The Times of India said Bale was there at fortress,pits location.

No mention of any of the other stars I don't believe. Although I've heard rumors of Pence and Joey King being "awol" from their private lives during that time.

Both Pence and Bale were confirmed by Times of India. Pence also has a picture around the area.

King was also apparently sighted by the India guys but considering that they said that after her casting was announced and their penchant for exaggeration then I'm not too confident of that info.

[MultipleJesuses]

When I read about this Serbian Prison thing, my first few thoughts were:
1. They're making Bane Serbian?
2. Wait no, maybe that's Bruce's pushup scene in the trailer.
3. Wait, wait! What if Bane is breaking other people out?

Not necessarily to help him but before going to Gotham he has heard about Batman taking out the mob (etc) so he decides to get the most hardened, sick, and dangerous criminals?

Not very likely but just what I thought would be cool

[Veidt]

Arnold Schwarzenegger is getting back into acting. Maybe Bane goes to Siberia to break out Mr Freeze.

[Nevincer]

I know we have been following The Dark Knight's marketing trajectory as a guideline... but perhaps Inception would be the logical suggestion.

Which is... unfortunate. :csad:
I never followed Inception. Was marketing really that bad? I mean, I popped in a couple of times and I found out it was something to do with dreams (well, the trailers gave that away, but I knew beforehand) and a dead wife. I was really surprised when I watched the film and all the stuff about dream layers, kicks, corporate heirs and stuff came in... did you guys that kept up with Inception know about most of that yourselves?

[The_Raganork]

I'm starting to consider the possibility that the prison breakout is for Bruce as well.

I'd prefer it actually, seeing Bruce's ingenuity in escaping a prison would be a great sequence.

As interesting as it would be Bruce, It's going to Bane 100%

I have confirmation from my Ninja down there

[The_Raganork]

Both Pence and Bale were confirmed by Times of India. Pence also has a picture around the area.

King was also apparently sighted by the India guys but considering that they said that after her casting was announced and their penchant for exaggeration then I'm not too confident of that info.

Joey King apparently tweeted from India at that time as well

[kvz5]

Joey King apparently tweeted from India at that time as well

I could be remembering it wrong but I think she went radio silent around that time. A few days before the shoot though she tweeted that she's going outside the country to film a movie.

[The_Raganork]

I could be remembering it wrong but I think she went radio silent around that time. A few days before the shoot though she tweeted that she's going outside the country to film a movie.

This could be it. I was never privy to the Tweet myself but, the Talia Conspirators use it as fact all the time.

Considering there's been no other news of her shooting I'm inclined to believe it.

[Hunter Rider]

Agreed. That and the reported Burning Plane sequence would make me a very excited Batfan :woot:

I'm looking forward to learning more about that big plane sequence myself. :D

if some one is driving a motorcycle through the second floor and out a window at the prison break in the burg,... i'm seeing the bat pod

seems batpod-ish to me

Is that stunt definitely part of the prison break or just something that also happens to be being filmed in Pittsburgh?

As interesting as it would be Bruce, It's going to Bane 100%

I have confirmation from my Ninja down there

Ok, so are we talking Bane breaking out or Bane breaking prisoners out?

[The_Raganork]

Ok, so are we talking Bane breaking out or Bane breaking prisoners out?

Bane is escaping the Prison.

[Kynergy]

So I know that the prison in being filmed at Carnegie Melon University, but are there any pictures of the exact spot on campus that is being used for filming? Since it's confirmed it's Bane, we may be able to tell by the look if the area if its going to be in Gotham, or possibly some where outside of Gotham.

[The_Raganork]

So I know that the prison in being filmed at Carnegie Melon University, but are there any pictures of the exact spot on campus that is being used for filming? Since it's confirmed it's Bane, we may be able to tell by the look if the area if its going to be in Gotham, or possibly some where outside of Gotham.

Considering the other shoots in Pittsburgh are taking place in winter and this one is not. (or at least I've heard nothing about Snow or any layered clothing for the Prison Break)

I would assume this is happening someplace other than Gotham

[Kynergy]

Considering the other shoots in Pittsburgh are taking place in winter and this one is not. (or at least I've heard nothing about Snow or any layered clothing for the Prison Break)

I would assume this is happening someplace other than Gotham

:up:

Alright, well, I guess we are getting somewhere with the plot. So maybe this Siberian thing is about Bane then. It makes sense, he is confirmed to be in prison, so maybe he will be Siberian. Either Bane is Siberian, or he may just wind up in a Siberian prison somehow, or it's Bruce in Siberia for some reason. We'll just have to wait and see.

[kvz5]

So the prison break in CMU is for Bane breaking out of prison but the Siberian prison camp may or may not be for Bane and is possibly Bruce related? Correct?

[Kynergy]

So the prison break in CMU is for Bane breaking out of prison but the Siberian prison camp may or may not be for Bane and is possibly Bruce related? Correct?

Seems like it. The prison at CMU may possibly be doubling for a Siberian prison, as Rag said he believes the prison is outside of Gotham.

[The_Raganork]

Where was Bruce being held in BB?

[Stelze]

Where was Bruce being held in BB?

It was supposed to be a bhutanese prison.

[slimshady247]

It was supposed to be a bhutanese prison.
So Siberia would be Northern Asia, while Bhutan is Southern. Still Asia either way. I don't believe it's specified in the film, is it? Saw it on Wikipedia... :awesome:

[Nevincer]

One thing I've been worried about is the possibility that some of these 'flashbacks' are 'additions' to BB Act One. For example, as suggested, reshoots of Bale in prison at the same place he was held in Tibet, or more of the training sequence with "Tom Hardy" included... it'd make BB somewhat hard to watch for me.

[slimshady247]

One thing I've been worried about is the possibility that some of these 'flashbacks' are 'additions' to BB Act One. For example, as suggested, reshoots of Bale in prison at the same place he was held in Tibet, or more of the training sequence with "Tom Hardy" included... it'd make BB somewhat hard to watch for me.
Eh, I doubt they'll pull an SM3. If Nolan does, he'll do it well. Or at least I hope he does.

[The_Raganork]

Nolan doesn't seem the type to throw in things we didn't know, into the lore we know.

I can accept that Bruce was in Prison before, possibly being watched By Ra's, possibly even being manipulated from prison to prison by Ra's, hence the ease of his release in BB.

[kvz5]

I don't know... I'm not convinced that the Bruce prison scene is a flashback. At least for now until I see more evidence supporting it.

[Kynergy]

One thing I've been worried about is the possibility that some of these 'flashbacks' are 'additions' to BB Act One. For example, as suggested, reshoots of Bale in prison at the same place he was held in Tibet, or more of the training sequence with "Tom Hardy" included... it'd make BB somewhat hard to watch for me.

If this does happen, and they are flashbacks to that time, I'm sure they will be small. I'm hoping that this is what Liam Neeson is for, flashbacks. It would help the Batman/Bruce character, rather than him having anything to do with Bane.

[kvz5]

If this does happen, and they are flashbacks to that time, I'm sure they will be small. I'm hoping that this is what Liam Neeson is for, flashbacks. It would help the Batman/Bruce character, rather than him having anything to do with Bane.

I agree with this. :up:

(although I kinda contradicted my earlier post that the Bruce prison scenes might not be a flashback :oldrazz:)

[Bats]

I don't know... I'm not convinced that the Bruce prison scene is a flashback. At least for now until I see more evidence supporting it.

I'm not sure what to think myself. I'm thinking if Bale is imprisoned elsewhere in TDKR it could be that he's trying to re-learn the mindset of the criminal like he did in BB. This might be a retraining experience to have him get back to be the person he was before.

[Nevincer]

If this does happen, and they are flashbacks to that time, I'm sure they will be small. I'm hoping that this is what Liam Neeson is for, flashbacks. It would help the Batman/Bruce character, rather than him having anything to do with Bane.
Now that I wouldn't mind. What I would mind is the sort of thing where Bruce met a major character whilst training with the League, but it was omitted in the narrative until now, or some really important kind of detail that they'd claim connects it back to BB but was really only TDKR's version of BB's events. That sort of thing would bug me, nothing else.

[kvz5]

I'm not sure what to think myself. I'm thinking if Bale is imprisoned elsewhere in TDKR it could be that he's trying to re-learn the mindset of the criminal like he did in BB. This might be a retraining experience to have him get back to be the person he was before.

I'm swaying back and forth on whether it's a flashback scene or set in the present. I really, really like the idea though of Bruce being imprisoned again as part of his investigation/training so I'm leaning towards that but I see the allure of more Ra's/Bruce flashback scenes. :awesome:

[The_Raganork]

If this does happen, and they are flashbacks to that time, I'm sure they will be small. I'm hoping that this is what Liam Neeson is for, flashbacks. It would help the Batman/Bruce character, rather than him having anything to do with Bane.

As you know, this has been my theory/hope and desire for a long time.

Let's hope we're right.

[Kynergy]

What I would mind is the sort of thing where Bruce met a major character whilst training with the League, but it was omitted in the narrative until now, or some really important kind of detail that they'd claim connects it back to BB but was really only TDKR's version of BB's events. That sort of thing would bug me, nothing else.

Ya, I agree, I wouldn't like that either. That would seem like lazy writing, which is why I don't think Nolan would do it. It would just seem to convenient and last minute if it happened that way.

If it turns out that Bruce met Bane during that BB time and we just happened to not see it...I wouldn't like that at all.

[Nevincer]

Nolan doesn't seem the type to throw in things we didn't know, into the lore we know.

I can accept that Bruce was in Prison before, possibly being watched By Ra's, possibly even being manipulated from prison to prison by Ra's, hence the ease of his release in BB.
Ra's definitely had some kind of power over that prison, no doubt.

[Kynergy]

As you know, this has been my theory/hope and desire for a long time.

Let's hope we're right.

:up:

I hope we're right too.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Do they start filming in Pittsburgh tomorrow?

July 25 to Aug. 5:

Dithridge from Fifth Avenue to Winthrop Street, 5 a.m. Monday to 10 p.m. Friday

[Solidus]

One thing I've been worried about is the possibility that some of these 'flashbacks' are 'additions' to BB Act One. For example, as suggested, reshoots of Bale in prison at the same place he was held in Tibet, or more of the training sequence with "Tom Hardy" included... it'd make BB somewhat hard to watch for me.

This won't be a problem I believe. The difference between SM3 and this was SM3 retconned a scene that took place in like 30 seconds. Ben being shot then in 10 seconds they decided to squeeze in another villain to the sub plot, that is bad.

With Begins he was on his journey for 7 years, and I can't remember how many but probably a few with the LOS. So there is lots of room for more story set in his early years, does not mean we are going back to a pure origin though.

The thing with the "dark mirror" villains (like Venom, Bizzaro, Bane, among many) is that they are very similar to the main character, and they show how their life would have been different if not for a few things that separated them from good to evil. Showing Bane in the same light is a necessity to let Bruce look into the mirror himself, and sees what sets Batman apart from everyone else. And why he is needed.

[The_Raganork]

But There's no proof that Bane is a "dark mirror" character. Ra's and Joker played those parts pretty well.

And if he is it doesn't mean that his origins will be so intimately tied with Bruce.

It was always my opinion that having the dark mirror character and the hero meet before and go down different paths was always going too far.

Scaramanga in the Man With the Golden Gun was the perfect image of James Bond but, they didn't share a similar past to the point where they had been together and trained together.

To go back and say "oh and by the way, Bane was in the LoS too" just feels so lazy and boring.

Give him a origins that has him similar to Bruce (if need be) independent of the LoS.

[Solidus]

Joker is an arch nemesis, I see him in a different light. Joker is COMPLETE opposite, so he is the anti matter to his matter. Bane is a dark mirror in the comics, so I don't think it will be any different. A dark mirror is just the bad reflection of him, similar and almost the same but not. Joker and him have some similarities but only in their extreme attitudes one way or another, they are also negative and positive. The Arch nemesis is a different class altogether.

Most villains are dark mirrors of the hero in some way this is true, but there is one that either has the same power as him (Venom) or from an alternate dimension (Bizzaro) or has the same type of training and same ambition to become a fighting machine (Bane) and if it is true the same training. Because what differs with Venom and so forth is he gets his powers in a physical form, with Bats its training, so if Bane has similar training and uses it for evil it would be the dark mirror of him, the Dark Batman to a point, the one that can defeat him (for a while) in the hero story.

[Scarecrow_King]

I'm personally hoping for Bruce to have to retrain after being broken, retracing the steps he went through before. That way it's almost like a flashback, but it's really set in the current.

[Solidus]

And I'm not saying that Bane will be training with the LOS, he may be effected by them in another way. It's clear that the LOS are in this in some capacity. So, it could be done in another way. But Ra's may be involved in some way.

[twostep]

I can see no way that Bane would be a part of the League of Shadows. Despite the obvious fanboy reaches, it makes little logical sense.

[Bats]

I can see no way that Bane would be a part of the League of Shadows. Despite the obvious fanboy reaches, it makes little logical sense.

How so? I highly doubt you read the script for TDKR nor know what Nolan has planned up his sleeve.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I'll ask again since no one answered:

Do they start filming in Pittsburgh tomorrow?

July 25 to Aug. 5:

Dithridge from Fifth Avenue to Winthrop Street, 5 a.m. Monday to 10 p.m. Friday

[Kynergy]

I'll ask again since no one answered:

Do they start filming in Pittsburgh tomorrow?

The first filming date that is listed in the shooting timeline thread is July 28th, so I think that might be the first day, which is this Thursday. If it actually is tommarow, then that's awesome. :woot:

[Solidus]

If they start filming tommorow that is great! In the next few weeks I'm sure we will get many more set pics.

[Diemtay]

If they start filming tommorow that is great! In the next few weeks I'm sure we will get many more set pics.
I could stare at your avi all day...

God I can't wait to see that in Imax.

[twostep]

How so? I highly doubt you read the script for TDKR nor know what Nolan has planned up his sleeve.

I have not read the script.

I have no clue as to what Nolan has up his sleeve.

I do know that if the general consensus thinks that Bane is an "agent" of the LoS, then it cannot possibly be the right answer.

[Solidus]

I could stare at your avi all day...

God I can't wait to see that in Imax.

It will be awesome :up:

[Bats]

I do know that if the general consensus thinks that Bane is an "agent" of the LoS, then it cannot possibly be the right answer.

But what I mean is how can any of us know what Nolan has in store for us. His films have been magnificent so far, meaning he could make a square peg fit into a round hole. None of us could say for certain if a plot point is relevant or not. I'll wait until near when the film comes out to say if something makes sense or not unless it's Batman thinking breakdancing will save the day.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I think they are closing that street tomorrow for filming or for filming prep. Be on the lookout Steelers!

[twostep]

But what I mean is how can any of us know what Nolan has in store for us. His films have been magnificent so far, meaning he could make a square peg fit into a round hole. None of us could say for certain if a plot point is relevant or not. I'll wait until near when the film comes out to say if something makes sense or not unless it's Batman thinking breakdancing will save the day.

Agreed entirely.

I just think that the speculation of Bane as an agent of the LoS is simple, weak minded, and not well thought out. It would be a very "Hollywood" way of storytelling and doesn't fit with what Nolan and co. have produced over the years.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

I actually didn't see the Joker in this universe as a dark mirror to Batman. Joker gave me the impression that he was simply sick of Gotham pretending to be something that it wasn't. Additionally, I took it he had a beef with the mob. His backstories all had SOME element of truth I believe. Given that he robbed a mob bank, I feel they had a hand in his creation. Therefore his use of the mob to bring down Gotham's White Knight in Harvey Dent and cause its citizens to slaughter each other.

Bane would work as a dark mirror to an extent. Bane is said to be a brutal and intelligent character (Gill's words). Perhaps at the beginning of this movie when Batman is dealing with the mob, his methods have become a bit more violent due to the stress of the GPD pursuing him even as the mob continues its shenanigans.

Cue Bane's appearance in Gotham and the maelstrom of rage he'll unleash. Maybe his methods to catch Batman--or achieve his goal--are indescriminate in taking out city property, civilians, or anyone who's in the way. And unlike the Joker, Bane wouldn't announce his plans. He would let them speak for themselves.

[The Tumbler]

and sees what sets Batman apart from everyone else.
What sets Batman apart from everyone else is clear - the hockey pants. :oldrazz:

[thewhyteman]

What sets Batman apart from everyone else is clear - the hockey pants. :oldrazz:

I laughed.

[Doc Holliday]

What sets Batman apart from everyone else is clear - the hockey pants. :oldrazz:

:up:

Although, I always thought it was "hockey pads?"

[The Tumbler]

Although, I always thought it was "hockey pads?"
That makes sense too. All I know is Batman sounded like he had a big hairball in his throat when he said that. :funny:

[Blue Sugar]

It's "hockey pads". But yeah :woot:

[Kane52630]

I always thought he said "hockey masks" but then I had to turn on the subtitles on the blu ray to understand what he was really saying.

[Ghostvirus]

Huh, I always thought he said Hockey Masks as well. Learn something new everyday.

[MagnarTheGreat]

He said, "IAM NOT WERING HROCKEY PRADNTS!"

Imagine Catwoman disguising her voice having a conversation with Batman disguising his voice. Comedy gold.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

lol u guys serious? It's Hockey pads.

[Kane52630]

ugh, I really hope they do fix his voice for TDKR.

[MagnarTheGreat]

I honestly missed some of Bats' dialogue when I saw TDK in a theater. It looks like Gordon is gonna have a garbled voice this time as well at some point. :-( Good luck deciphering whatever he babbles about the first time seeing it.

[Cobblepot]

I do hope his voice will be different, especially when he fights Bane. He should be very tired and fatiqued, in real life you wouldn't be able to disguise your voice anymore.

[EliteF50]

Yeah... this shouldn't be this big of a problem. Nolan should definitely fix it.

[Hurm...]

I honestly missed some of Bats' dialogue when I saw TDK in a theater. It looks like Gordon is gonna have a garbled voice this time as well at some point. :-( Good luck deciphering whatever he babbles about the first time seeing it.
Now, imagine if Ken Watanabe was in the film too!

[EliteF50]

I actually found Gordon very hard to hear in TDK when he and Harvey were having a discussion after the court hearing.

[imposserus]

okay,
the voice: bats sounded terrible, we all know that. and it was hockey pads, although i watch everything w/c.c. (deaf on right side) and with out the captions i wouldn't know. I seriously doubt the voice will be fixed, since the suit and t(ank)umbler aren't changing, are we to hope the batman takes diction lessons?

the motorcycle stunt was listed as part of the prison break shoot i think, i read it somewhere in the thread about the pittsburgh shoot, i wont comb thru to find the link, so good luck.

and although the shoot is IN siberia, doesn't mean that's where it will be set. otherwise we would have had batmanliving in chi-town. that's just were the scenery matched best to the concept, no doubt

and bane escaped prison, went to gotham and them broke lots of other folks out of blackgate/arkham (i think it was both, but i haven't read that in forever) . since him being raised in prison is imperrative to the character, i bet we'll get his escape. and since he has to unleash havok in gotham to tuckerout the batman, i bet we'll see a much bigger chaotic prison break in gottham

banes break out will be semi-stealthy and possible LOS related (which would be kinda bunk) and then he goes to gc and lets loose a whole mess of crazies to distract the police and the batman and keep us interested


and thats my best guess with so little to work with

[The_Raganork]

okay,
the voice: bats sounded terrible, we all know that. and it was hockey pads, although i watch everything w/c.c. (deaf on right side) and with out the captions i wouldn't know. I seriously doubt the voice will be fixed, since the suit and t(ank)umbler aren't changing, are we to hope the batman takes diction lessons?

the motorcycle stunt was listed as part of the prison break shoot i think, i read it somewhere in the thread about the pittsburgh shoot, i wont comb thru to find the link, so good luck.

and although the shoot is IN siberia, doesn't mean that's where it will be set. otherwise we would have had batmanliving in chi-town. that's just were the scenery matched best to the concept, no doubt

and bane escaped prison, went to gotham and them broke lots of other folks out of blackgate/arkham (i think it was both, but i haven't read that in forever) . since him being raised in prison is imperrative to the character, i bet we'll get his escape. and since he has to unleash havok in gotham to tuckerout the batman, i bet we'll see a much bigger chaotic prison break in gottham

banes break out will be semi-stealthy and possible LOS related (which would be kinda bunk) and then he goes to gc and lets loose a whole mess of crazies to distract the police and the batman and keep us interested


and thats my best guess with so little to work with

Bane's escape won't be stealthy at all.

[Hype_the_Hero]

I actually found Gordon very hard to hear in TDK when he and Harvey were having a discussion after the court hearing.
as did i, wasn't his voice though he was just talking really fast.

[imposserus]

sneaking out of a well is a lot more stealthy than blowing a hole in the wall

[Citadel30]

Bane's escape won't be stealthy at all.

do you KNOW this or is it just speculation on your part? Your posts recently indicate that you seem to have an inside track to the inner-workings of the movie.

you holding out on us Rag??? haha :woot:

[The_Raganork]

sneaking out of a well is a lot more stealthy than blowing a hole in the wall

Except this is what he does...in part

do you KNOW this or is it just speculation on your part? Your posts recently indicate that you seem to have an inside track to the inner-workings of the movie.

you holding out on us Rag??? haha :woot:


No I KNOW this one. His escape from Prison and it is a spectacle. a HUGE spectacle.

The escape will feature, heavy explosions, gunfire, vehicular chaos and simulated structural damage,

[Doc Holliday]

Except this is what he does...in part




No I KNOW this one. His escape from Prison and it is a spectacle. a HUGE spectacle.

The escape will feature, heavy explosions, gunfire, vehicular chaos and simulated structural damage,

I smell a prologue...

[kvz5]

It's crazy how everything we're finding out so far points to something related to Bane and there's nothing about Catwoman/Selina (with the exception of the masked ball and Wayne Manor scenes and even those are somewhat related to Bane). I guess most of her stuff will be shot at the studio.

[The_Raganork]

It's crazy how everything we're finding out so far points to something related to Bane and there's nothing about Catwoman/Selina (with the exception of the masked ball and Wayne Manor scenes and even those are somewhat related to Bane). I guess most of her stuff will be shot at the studio.

She's shot some stuff already

I'm pretty sure she'll be in Pittsburgh too.

They've shot a lot more than we've seen. Hence all the stuff in the trailer, only the hospital scene was known before hand.

I'm pretty sure a good chunk of this film is done

[kvz5]

She's shot some stuff already

I'm pretty sure she'll be in Pittsburgh too.

They've shot a lot more than we've seen. Hence all the stuff in the trailer, only the hospital scene was known before hand.

I'm pretty sure a good chunk of this film is done

Yeah, I know. I'm just saying outside of the stuff she shot at the Wayne Manor and Museum Ball which we know of, it seems that we don't know anything else about her scenes which at this point leads me to think that whatever additional scenes she shot already were inside the studio. So far, the Pittsburgh shoot seems to revolve around Bane (prison scenes), Batman (sighting of the Tumbler and Batpod) and GCPD scenes (GCPD cars).

They're spending a lot of time in LA so her stuff might be shot inside the WB studio.

I hope they shoot some rooftop chase scene between Batman and Catwoman in Pittsburgh.

[Kane52630]

So is TDKR filming in Pittsburgh today?

[kvz5]

So is TDKR filming in Pittsburgh today?

The casting call said the start date is July 28 but there are already road closings starting today according to one of the Pittsburgh papers so maybe they're starting today and it just doesn't involve extras so it was not mentioned in the casting call.

July 25 to Aug. 5:

Dithridge from Fifth Avenue to Winthrop Street, 5 a.m. Monday to 10 p.m. Friday

I hope we get some sightings pretty soon so we can confirm who will be at the shoot. I think Bale, Hardy, Oldman and JGL are the sure things. Maybe Anne too. Not too sure about the rest.

[imposserus]

Except this is what he does...in part




No I KNOW this one. His escape from Prison and it is a spectacle. a HUGE spectacle.

The escape will feature, heavy explosions, gunfire, vehicular chaos and simulated structural damage,


so tie this all together for me

scalling wall of hole / plane crash / explosions and motocycle pitsb. / banes initial escap vs bane loosing chaos on GC




ps: i believe in Waylon Jones

[The_Raganork]

The casting call said the start date is July 28 but there are already road closings starting today according to one of the Pittsburgh papers so maybe they're starting today and it just doesn't involve extras so it was not mentioned in the casting call.

July 25 to Aug. 5:

Dithridge from Fifth Avenue to Winthrop Street, 5 a.m. Monday to 10 p.m. Friday

I hope we get some sightings pretty soon so we can confirm who will be at the shoot. I think Bale, Hardy, Oldman and JGL are the sure things. Maybe Anne too. Not too sure about the rest.

Most of the cast is supposed to be in Pittsburgh at some time or another.

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to distract us during this time.

so tie this all together for me

scalling wall of hole / plane crash / explosions and motocycle pitsb. / banes initial escap vs bane loosing chaos on GC




ps: i believe in Waylon Jones

Sure but....

Well all I'm going to say is "I doubt it" in terms of it all being related.

[imposserus]

Most of the cast is supposed to be in Pittsburgh at some time or another.

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to distract us during this time.



Sure but....

Well all I'm going to say is "I doubt it" in terms of it all being related.


well i still believe in waylon jones

[Citadel30]

Most of the cast is supposed to be in Pittsburgh at some time or another.

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to distract us during this time.



Sure but....

Well all I'm going to say is "I doubt it" in terms of it all being related.

sounds like Bane is going to be one busy MOFO in this movie... thats for sure.

[lime]

LoL, I'm a Bulgarian and yet I understand every piece of dialog (both Batman and Gordon).

PS: What is this about a Bane prison break? Is this confirmed or what. Can someone give me an update because by the time I check this thread there are 10 new pages.

[kvz5]

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to distract us during this time.

A Catwoman pic or some set pics will be pretty good distractions.

*wink, wink WB*

[kvz5]

LoL, I'm a Bulgarian and yet I understand every piece of dialog (both Batman and Gordon).

PS: What is this about a Bane prison break? Is this confirmed or what. Can someone give me an update because by the time I check this thread there are 10 new pages.

There's a huge prison break scene that will be shot in CMU (Pittsburgh) and Raganork8's :ninja: confirmed that it's Bane related.

[Blue Sugar]

No I KNOW this one. His escape from Prison and it is a spectacle. a HUGE spectacle.

The escape will feature, heavy explosions, gunfire, vehicular chaos and simulated structural damage,

:awesome:

[Nevincer]

We won't see Catwoman until December. I'm sure of it :csad:

[BatFan88]

We won't see Catwoman until December. I'm sure of it :csad:

We wont see her until may 2012

The only thing we will see is selina in trailer 2,but not in her Catwoman suit.
i'm 100% sure of that.

And i also think that she will be the white knight.

[MagnarTheGreat]

The reverse of Harvey Dent's arc would be interesting to see; Kyle starts out as a criminal but a traumatic event makes her realize she can put her skills to use for the betterment of Gotham in some ways.

[imposserus]

We wont see her until may 2012

The only thing we will see is selina in trailer 2,but not in her Catwoman suit.
i'm 100% sure of that.

And i also think that she will be the white knight.

a professional burgless will be the upstanding hero? fu-reeelz?




i believe in waylon jones

[coderaven24]

We wont see her until may 2012

The only thing we will see is selina in trailer 2,but not in her Catwoman suit.
i'm 100% sure of that.

And i also think that she will be the white knight.

I don't agree with this.

The thing that seperates Batman from all other comic book heros, is not his mythos, its his rogues Gallery.

Batman is the most succesful of all the major franchises because of Batman, Joker, Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, etc.

The traditional villians are as Iconic as the Cape Crusader himself. The standard movie goer doesn't have that relationship with other characters. Sure fan boys do, but not average people.

Most people have no idea though who Bane is, he is not a traditional popular villian, he not Iconic at this time with average people. Sure us fan boys know, but not my wife or daughter however. they can spot the rest on TV in a flash.

The antipcation for Batman > the All other movies at the moment. To continue that from here on out, would be to you show some Catwoman hints, or teasers to keep people intrested.

just my two cents.

[Doc Holliday]

well i still believe in waylon jones

Believe in him all you want; it's not happening in this movie.

[Grommers]

Interesting point...however, I think people are sick of seeing catwoman.

I'm actually really curious because batman begins was a re-boot but arguably like you said didn't use iconic villains. Ras Al Ghul and Scarecrow aren't that relatable especially being absence from the 1960s show and not having prominent roles in TAS. (Yes they were in it, but not very often.)

It'll be interesting to see how this fares up, batman begins was a delayed success. Not until the DVD sales for this movie skyrocketed did people realise, and then with TDK.

My thoughts are that this movie should be able to piggyback TDK's success and hopefully be just as successful or even more so.

[Blue Sugar]

Most people have no idea though who Bane is, he is not a traditional popular villian, he not Iconic at this time with average people. Sure us fan boys know, but not my wife or daughter however. they can spot the rest on TV in a flash.


Yeah, my brother asked me who the villain and had no idea who Bane was. But when I mentioned Catwoman also was in it he got excited.

I think Nolan and Hardy might make Bane iconic for the GA. Would be cool.

[coderaven24]

Interesting point...however, I think people are sick of seeing catwoman.

I'm actually really curious because batman begins was a re-boot but arguably like you said didn't use iconic villains. Ras Al Ghul and Scarecrow aren't that relatable especially being absence from the 1960s show and not having prominent roles in TAS. (Yes they were in it, but not very often.)

It'll be interesting to see how this fares up, batman begins was a delayed success. Not until the DVD sales for this movie skyrocketed did people realise, and then with TDK.

My thoughts are that this movie should be able to piggyback TDK's success and hopefully be just as successful or even more so.

Thats true, but BB was an amazing movie but it did not finicial set the bar like TDK which included the Joker.

[kvz5]

TDKR (sorta) at the cover of the next issue of Empire! I don't think there's anything inside though based on their description.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=31585


Empire's Judge Dredd Cover Unveiled
Plus Spidey and The Dark Knight Rises

That's right, it's time to release the brand new Empire cover (out this Thursday, July 28), and needless to say, this month's issue is an absolute cracker. For starters there's Karl Urban as Judge Dredd glowering menacingly into your magazine-buying eyes, flanked on either side by Andrew Garfield's The Amazing Spider-Man and Christian Bale's Batman for The Dark Knight Rises.

Not a bad little team, we think you'll agree... Inside the actual issue itself you'll be happy to discover 12 ever-so-very exclusive exclusives, including John Carter, Man Of Steel, The Avengers and Men In Black 3. Yep, we've really got the lot this time – after all, this is the Heroes Of 2012 issue we're talking about.

Then there's an amazing collection of unseen Jaws photography for you Spielberg afficionados to feast your eyes on, as well as everything you need to know about Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. Not forgetting Olly Moss' Ollywood and all the other brilliant regulars you (hopefully) know and (ideally) love.

Trust us, it'll make that train journey / uber-long bath / bus trip to Bangor / space shuttle expidition just fly by in a flurry of high quality journalism and pictures of Karl Urban kicking doors in. You know, just the way you like it.
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Excited? Check back tomorrow for an in-depth preview of just what's going on inside Empire's latest issue, just to whet your appetite even more.

This month's Empire is on newsstands Thursday, July 28, but if you've already subscribed you should have your copies now, or within the next couple of days or so. Lovely
.

[EliteF50]

Doubt we'll get anything.

[imposserus]

Believe in him all you want; it's not happening in this movie.

you have no right to mash my hope like that...
you know that hat comes right off right? val's not actually a cow boy

see, how'd that make you feel... you leave my crocodillian delusion alone alright?





i believe in waylon jones

[Pagan]

TDKR (sorta) at the cover of the next issue of Empire! I don't think there's anything inside though based on their description.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=31585

.

I doubt they know anything we don't already. and if they did Nolan has them sign an NDA.

[imposserus]

so i just saw one of those commercials for the new arkham game...

where the cop says something to effect of: we thought we had him trapped but he was waiting for us.


and the cop sounds like bale's hockey pads voice... it made me smile







i believe in waylon jones

[hatebox]

Empire did get a couple of exclusive promo shots for TDK (one of them being the Joker in the jail cell) but I can't see us getting anything like that this soon.

[Doctor Jones]

The idea of Bruce going back around the world to be imprisoned for invesitgative purposes is very intiguing and I like the sound of that. But would it be right for Bruce to disappear from Gotham again while Bane could still be there? Would Catwoman try to take his place for a while? Batman could be gone in this film. And obviously the city would be suffering due to what Bane is doing to it. And when Bruce finally decides to return as Batman, he travels the world and leaves Gotham and train again? Those are some of the things I'm unsure about.

But Bruce being in the batcave training and relearning everything is a great idea too. Use a flashback of a new moment with Bruce and Ra's at some point in his training in BB and what he tells him and that would be cool.

But perhaps the amount of time he is gone to relearn everything is neccessary?

[Goku Goes Crazy]

So have they started filming in Pitts today? Setting up? Did anyone go down to that street that they were closing down? Get any set pics? Anything?

[Jokers_Wild]

So have they started filming in Pitts today? Setting up? Did anyone go down to that street that they were closing down? Get any set pics? Anything?

Just noticed tweets saying that?! Where was filming supposed to be today?

[Kane52630]

Just noticed tweets saying that?! Where was filming supposed to be today?
according to kvz5

July 25 to Aug. 5:

Dithridge from Fifth Avenue to Winthrop Street, 5 a.m. Monday to 10 p.m. Friday


I'm surprised no one has gone up to that street and start taking photos. Batfans in Pittsburgh are getting lazy. :o

[Pagan]

just saw this tweet

kevinolearytv (http://twitter.com/#%21/kevinolearytv) Kevin O'Leary



Just saw the batcave being built in stage 30 on the MGM lot but they would not let me take a pic for you Its fantastic I'm a huge Batman fan

[kvz5]

MGM lot?

[Doc Holliday]

MGM lot?

Do they do that in Hollywood? Loan out lots to other studios?

[kvz5]

Do they do that in Hollywood? Loan out lots to other studios?

I don't know but you'd think they'd do stuff at the WB studios.

[Solidus]

They do switch up studios all the time. I remember when I was getting to tour the Universal Studio lot they were filming some of the New York scenes for SM2 on the Universal Lot. There are many times that studios rent out the others studios, especially if they are booked or what not.

[Pagan]

Do they do that in Hollywood? Loan out lots to other studios?

I believe "rent" or "lease" would be a more appropriate word.
and I have no idea if they do this or not.
It could be Kevin is mistaken and it is a WB lot.
Maybe it used to be an MGM lot and WB bought it?

but this guy is pretty reputable. Can't say I can think of a reason he would lie.

[Solidus]

I believe "rent" or "lease" would be a more appropriate word.
and I have no idea if they do this or not.
It could be Kevin is mistaken and it is a WB lot.
Maybe it used to be an MGM lot and WB bought it?

but this guy is pretty reputable. Can't say I can think of a reason he would lie.

Well WB and MGM have a partnership now with The Hobbit and so forth, so with MGM being kinda low on funds I think WB and them have a decent relationship now. So it would not surprise me at all that they are using those.

[kvz5]

That makes sense regarding the leasing and partnerships. Unless there is an upcoming MGM movie that requires a cave setting?

[Doc Holliday]

I believe "rent" or "lease" would be a more appropriate word.
and I have no idea if they do this or not.
It could be Kevin is mistaken and it is a WB lot.
Maybe it used to be an MGM lot and WB bought it?

but this guy is pretty reputable. Can't say I can think of a reason he would lie.

Sure, by strict definition. But it's all the same concept.

As for him lying, I don't think he would do that, but is it possible he's mistaken and it's not the Batcave?

[lukey37]

MGM lot is now Sony Pictures' lot.

[Solidus]

Well The Hobbit has done all the cave stuff in New Zeland, and Pinewood studios, none is being planned in the U.S. the one cave scene "Riddles in the Dark" for The Hobbit was the first block filmed, so that's done and was done in NZ. Other than that I can't think of another film that has a cave. And if he says its a Bat cave I'm sure its more than just a cave, its probably a cave with all the tech and gear in it.

But who knows.

[Doc Holliday]

Well The Hobbit has done all the cave stuff in New Zeland, and Pinewood studios, none is being planned in the U.S. the one cave scene "Riddles in the Dark" for The Hobbit was the first block filmed, so that's done and was done in NZ. Other than that I can't think of another film that has a cave. And if he says its a Bat cave I'm sure its more than just a cave, its probably a cave with all the tech and gear in it.

But who knows.

LOVE that scene. Can't wait to see it on film.

[Pagan]

Sure, by strict definition. But it's all the same concept.

As for him lying, I don't think he would do that, but is it possible he's mistaken and it's not the Batcave?

well from his tweet I think he was probably talking to some of the people there. this guy is a huge multimillionaire investor. he said they wouldn't let him take a pic. so I don't think he is mistaken. I think it's legit info.

[Doc Holliday]

well from his tweet I think he was probably talking to some of the people there. this guy is a huge multimillionaire investor. he said they wouldn't let him take a pic. so I don't think he is mistaken. I think it's legit info.

Well we have ourselves some mildly exciting news, then.

[Pagan]

MGM lot is now Sony Pictures' lot.

they were bought out by a partnership of Sony,Comcast and other investors.

[kvz5]

Makes sense for them to start building the Batcave just in time for end of August when the shoot moves to LA.

Another thought - if the Batcave is in fact in LA, then the push-up scene definitely happened in some prison and not in the Batcave.

[Great1]

Well The Hobbit has done all the cave stuff in New Zeland, and Pinewood studios, none is being planned in the U.S. the one cave scene "Riddles in the Dark" for The Hobbit was the first block filmed, so that's done and was done in NZ. Other than that I can't think of another film that has a cave. And if he says its a Bat cave I'm sure its more than just a cave, its probably a cave with all the tech and gear in it.

But who knows.

Oh, well, good news there. Happens to be my favorite chapter in the book.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

according to kvz5

July 25 to Aug. 5:

Dithridge from Fifth Avenue to Winthrop Street, 5 a.m. Monday to 10 p.m. Friday


I'm surprised no one has gone up to that street and start taking photos. Batfans in Pittsburgh are getting lazy. :o

Seriously! lol Come on Pittsburgh Batfans where the hell are you? Do your duty! I thought you guys were going to be all over this. :(

[The_Raganork]

Seriously! lol Come on Pittsburgh Batfans where the hell are you? Do your duty! I thought you guys were going to be all over this. :(


I'm pretty sure all my :ninja:s are there.

Nothing big is happening today though

[Goku Goes Crazy]

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2011/07/25/batman-crew-to-arrive-in-pittsburgh.html?ana=twt

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I'm pretty sure all my :ninja:s are there.

Nothing big is happening today though

Oh really? Awesome! :awesome:

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Everyone on twitter is saying that filming is starting today.

[Rindain]

Everyone on twitter is saying that filming is starting today.

Has filming already started, or is it a night scene that will be shot today?

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I read some tweets saying they were filming a night shoot today. So I don't know! I hope are Pittsburgh ninjas get something!

[Yurka]

I posted months ago that they were constructing a full blown batcave in LA, but no one believed me, oh well.

And I'm still in San Diego, I really hope they didnt start filming the Pittsburgh stuff already.

[Nevincer]

Bane.

[The_Raganork]

I posted months ago that they were constructing a full blown batcave in LA, but no one believed me, oh well.

And I'm still in San Diego, I really hope they didnt start filming the Pittsburgh stuff already.

How long til you're back?

[Travesty]

And I'm still in San Diego, I really hope they didnt start filming the Pittsburgh stuff already.Filming starts today.

[kvz5]

I'm pretty sure all my :ninja:s are there.

Nothing big is happening today though

Did your :ninja: confirm who from the cast is there already for the shoot?

[Kynergy]

I posted months ago that they were constructing a full blown batcave in LA, but no one believed me, oh well.

And I'm still in San Diego, I really hope they didnt start filming the Pittsburgh stuff already.

Filming starts today.

Yurka, looks like you need to get yourself a plane ticket, pronto.

Though, I'm sure if anything does happen today, there are going to be alot of people on top of it, so I wouldn't worry.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Yeah I think filming starts today. Sure as hell sounds like it. I think it's happening at night, so bring your flashlights PittsNinjas!

[The_Raganork]

Did your :ninja: confirm who from the cast is there already for the shoot?

I got a vague: "Most of everyone"

[ChrisB]

Are we expecting anything from Empire tomorrow? I know TDKR is on the cover, but what could they show?

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I don't think we should expect anything form Empire. I do think that we should be keeping all eyes on Pittsburgh. :ninja:

[kvz5]

Are we expecting anything from Empire tomorrow? I know TDKR is on the cover, but what could they show?

Someone at the trailer/poster thread said there's nothing new that we don't know of.

[kvz5]

Hardy interview:

http://www.hitfix.com/articles/tom-hardy-compares-work-on-dark-knight-to-starbucks-the-airport


“You deal with something Dark Knight – or ‘Mad Max,’ or ‘Superman’ or ‘Spider-man,’ whatever – it’s like going to work in an airport and going, ‘Hi I’m over here!’ and then everybody goes ‘Oh here’s that, that’s the villain of the piece.’ Then it’s a thousand people going to Duty-Free. Like, [shouting] ‘I AM THE VILLAIN!’ and make a lot of noise. There’s a formula here, you can’t muck around with it. There’s a lot of rules, you’re restrained in many ways as an artist. But then you’re also grateful because of the huge exposure and the paycheck.

“Or the not-paycheck ‘cause they’re making you a stahhh,” he affects. “Whatever it is, you’re paying an entrance to getting higher exposure. These movies are huge vehicles to make a lot of money… and make a large audience happy. So now you’re at the very top level of trying to bring character work in a boutique way to something that is, y’know, Starbucks.


Anne is still in Italy as of yesterday:

Pics - http://goo.gl/fb/73xi8 (http://goo.gl/fb/73xi8)

[ThePhantasm]

Hardy interview:

http://www.hitfix.com/articles/tom-hardy-compares-work-on-dark-knight-to-starbucks-the-airport


His statements don't seem to indicate that he sees the Batman movies as high art or something... more like popcorn flicks. I'm not sure I totally agree... Nolan's Batfilms are a bit more complex and special than that. Certainly not like Starbucks.

[Solidus]

His statements don't seem to indicate that he sees the Batman movies as high art or something... more like popcorn flicks. I'm not sure I totally agree... Nolan's Batfilms are a bit more complex and special than that. Certainly not like Starbucks.

I thought that is what he meant until the end:

very top level of trying to bring character work in a boutique way to something that is, y’know, Starbucks

He's saying it seems there that he is taking something artistic and trying to merge it with something commercial. That is what the brilliance is of Nolan's Bat films, they are part deeper/high art merged with a more blockbuster-esque type of film. So that audiences of all types enjoy.

[batbax]

Im probably totally wrong but just on the surface just reading that made it seem as though hardy wasnt all too excited about being in a batman movie except for the money and exposure. I sure hope thats not the case and Im sure Im wrong but it definitely didnt come out very flattering on paper lol.

[Blue Sugar]

I feel like Nolan is trying to bring boutique writing and directing to something that usually is Starbucks.

I hope Hardy talks more about this in general and not just TDKR.

[Boom]

Tom Hardy is hilarious in interviews.

"Hi I'm over here!"

:lmao:

[Solidus]

I'm sure its not about TDKR in general. I mean I remember JGL said something almost exactly the same when talking about Inception. Some of these actors prefer smaller films, than the giant ones, does not mean they have any less respect for the one they are doing. (sometimes it does though) Most of the time Hardy has been very positive, but his end statement pretty much sums up what he feels about it though.

[Blue Sugar]

I mean if he is bringing his best character work then he must think the character is written good enough so in such way possible? I refuse to believe he thinks Nolan is commercial only and that he (Hardy) is bringing the artistic part to the table.

I think his answer must have come out wrong here. Infact I don't even understand the first part about like being in an airport, being the villain etc.

[Boom]

I don't really care. I appreciate his honesty. If he's doing this movie primarily to boost his career and make money, then all the power to him. And considering his talent, I'm happy for the exposure coming his way. More people need to become acquainted with Tom "Dat Neck" Hardy.

And before anyone calls him a sell-out, I have absolutely no concerns that he'll just phone it in. We're in for a treat, I'm sure.

[floreairfoot]

"Boutique" is a great way to describe Nolan's Batman - it's way more high-class than your typical superhero movie. Everything has to be finely scrutinized and put under a microscope; more so than, again, your typical superhero movie.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

The craft involved to acting in a big budget action film would be very different to a small scale film. Lighting and other technical aspects take over.

[Solidus]

I don't really care. I appreciate his honesty. If he's doing this movie primarily to boost his career and make money, then all the power to him. And considering his talent, I'm happy for the exposure coming his way. More people need to become acquainted with Tom "Dat Neck" Hardy.

And before anyone calls him a sell-out, I have absolutely no concerns that he'll just phone it in. We're in for a treat, I'm sure.

Well again at the end he said that he's trying to bring something artistic to something commercial. The one thing I believe he means is his limitations as an artist because he's playing a character that already has 20 years of history. That can be limiting no matter what, especially with comic fanatics that scream foul if one hair is different on their head than it was in the comics.

With other roles he probably does have more freedom, but with a character that does have a structure already built around it (even the Joker did) you do have to funnel into one type of mindset.

I think he was just being goofy, and at the end said yea I'm doing something artistic in a commercial vehicle. Tom seems like a funny guy with a good sense of humor.

[Happy Jack]

And before anyone calls him a sell-out, I have absolutely no concerns that he'll just phone it in. We're in for a treat, I'm sure.
I don't think Hardy could phone it in, given the director, the role, and just how Hardy is as an actor. The very fact of his physical transformation is a testament to that.

[The Joker]

I couldn't care less if Hardy thinks Batman is corny and this job is just a paycheck to him. As long as he give his performance full effort, then it's all good.

[Boom]

Didn't Ledger say something along the lines of "I ****ing hate comic books," or am I imagining that?

I could have sworn Ledger said something that got peoples' panties in a bunch.

[Solidus]

Oh he won't phone it in, he will give it his "all" for sure. I mean he knows this is massive exposure. On top of that he's following up one of the most iconic and raved characters in the past decade (Ledger's Joker) so he knows its a tough act to follow. If he fails and just phones it in, he will have massive "bad" exposure and it could destroy ones career. Nolan would not let him do that, nor Tom would do that to himself.

[Kane52630]

Didn't Ledger say something along the lines of "I ****ing hate comic books," or am I imagining that?

I could have sworn Ledger said something that got peoples' panties in a bunch.

I believe so. Wow I never read this before, very interesting.

Heath Ledger Hates Comic Book Movies (http://blog.moviefone.com/2006/09/13/heath-ledger-hates-comic-book-movies/)
http://blog.moviefone.com/2006/09/13/heath-ledger-hates-comic-book-movies/

"I actually hate comic book movies, like f****ing hate them, they just bore me s***less and they're just dumb. But I thought what Chris Nolan did with Batman was actually really good."

[Blue Sugar]

I couldn't care less if Hardy thinks Batman is corny and this job is just a paycheck to him. As long as he give his performance full effort, then it's all good.

Yeah that's all that matters in the end and if he is amazing we will hail him and be immersed in his character no matter what he thinks of the movie and role.

But I personally really dig Hardy and it would be sad if he didn't like this one bit. But I'm sure he does and I'm sure me (and others) are just over-exaggerating the value of these words, I don't think he put much weight into them.

[The Joker]

Didn't Ledger say something along the lines of "I ****ing hate comic books," or am I imagining that?

I could have sworn Ledger said something that got peoples' panties in a bunch.

With the sequel set to start shooting in early 2007 (with a 2008 release date), Ledger confirms that the picture is next on his slate. He also adds that he has little experience with the world of comic books, and prefers to keep it that way, though he has been provided with one particular comic to help him prepare for the part: Alan Moore and Brian Bolland's seminal The Killing Joke.

"I think that's kind of helping me a little bit, the fact that I was never really a fan of [comics]," says the actor. "I didn't exactly despise comic books or comic book movies but I was never really one to read them that much. I never sought out the films too often but I would enjoy them if I sat down and watched them. So because of that I really feel that I'm not carrying as much pressure. … The Killing Joke is the one that was handed to me. It's really good. So I think [the film] is obviously going to be a bit [about] the beginning of the Joker. I guess [The Killing Joke] explains a little bit of where he's from, but not too much. From what I've gathered, there isn't a lot of information about the Joker and it's kind of left that way."

http://ie.movies.ign.com/articles/744/744649p1.html

[Solidus]

Didn't Ledger say something along the lines of "I ****ing hate comic books," or am I imagining that?

I could have sworn Ledger said something that got peoples' panties in a bunch.

I do believe he did say something of that effect, maybe not as extreme as I remember it but I think he did say something similar.

[jmc]

It was nice to see an actor being honest for once instead of being one of those pretenders who crap on about how they always loved comics.

[Boom]

It was nice to see an actor being honest for once instead of being one of those pretenders who crap on about how they always loved comics.
:up:

[ThePhantasm]

I was glad to see him mention Mad Max. Looking forward to seeing Hardy in that role. I wonder when they start filming for that?

[venus_ice]

I can't wait for filming to start up again. I crave blurry pictures of empty sets and people far off the in the distance! :funny:

But seriously I really hope we get copious amounts of Pittsburgh coverage.

[mackblack01]

New stuff about the Batcave! Thanks ChrisB!

The Dark Knight Rises’ Batcave being built at MGM Studios?
Just saw the batcave being built in stage 30 on the MGM lot but they would not let me take a pic for you Its fantastic I'm a huge Batman fan
about 8 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®ReplyRetweetFavorite
@kevinolearytv
Kevin O'Leary
Kevin O’Leary spotted the new Batcave being built on MGM’s lot in California. The Batcave that was used in Batman Begins was housed in London, and it looks like we’ll definitely be getting a new one in The Dark Knight Rises. I can’t wait to see what improvements Bruce Wayne has made to the “southeast corner”. The Dark Knight Rises will be filming in Los Angeles after they wrap up in Pittsburgh. Unfortunately, Mr. O’Leary was not allowed to take a picture of the newly constructed Batcave, hopefully Warner Bros. releases some production stills soon.

Source : http://batman-news.com/2011/07/25/the-dark-knight-rises-batcave-being-built-at-mgm-studios/

[Solidus]

Yea we were talking about that a few hours ago.

[MasterOgami]

I was glad to see him mention Mad Max. Looking forward to seeing Hardy in that role. I wonder when they start filming for that?

Next year, -maybe-. Its been delayed literally a gazillion times. Though as I recall everything's built and more or less ready to go.

[Dragon_316ca]

Anne is back on U.S. soil: http://socialitelife.com/anne-hathaway-catwoman-07-2011

Gallery included.

[kvz5]

Anne is back on U.S. soil: http://socialitelife.com/anne-hathaway-catwoman-07-2011

Gallery included.

Yay. :) I still can't get over how her boyfriend looks a bit like Ryan Gosling. :woot:

[FCEEVIPER]

So who's going to the LA casting call on Sunday?

I will be there. :)

[QueenChaos]

Hardy interview:

http://www.hitfix.com/articles/tom-hardy-compares-work-on-dark-knight-to-starbucks-the-airport


Hardy seems like a pretty cool and funny guy. With the concluding statement of this it is apparent he has respect for Nolan's work and what he is able to bring to the blockbuster realm of films.
Whatever his thoughts are on taking on this role, it is safe to presume he is investing a great deal in the portrayal. I have no doubt his performance will be amazing.

[The_Raganork]

Queenchaos your avatar is devilishly wonderful.

Hexadecimal!

[QueenChaos]

Queenchaos your avatar is devilishly wonderful.

Hexadecimal!

Why thank you good sir. Yes, Hex is all too fitting.

[The_Raganork]

I agree whole heartedly.

[Heffer Wolf]

So who's going to the LA casting call on Sunday?

I will be there. :)

I might actually be up in helL.A. this weekend, maybe I might stop by this and... I dunno, just see what happens. Couldn't hurt.

[QueenChaos]

We wont see her until may 2012

The only thing we will see is selina in trailer 2,but not in her Catwoman suit.
i'm 100% sure of that.

And i also think that she will be the white knight.

What ever will we do with you BatFan88? :oldrazz:
If I had a dime for every time someone was "100% sure" without 100% fact to back it up...

[Rhames]

We will see catwoman. It may not be until Christmas but we will see her. Stupid marketing decision of we didn't.

[Rhiannon]

If they're filming scenes with her in the suit and manage to hide her completely until next summer, I'll be extremely impressed. Someone is bound to get lucky before then even if there are no official shots released.

Anyway, Catwoman will be more of a draw than Selina to casual fans who won't make the connection as strongly without her in the suit.

[L.A.]

So who's going to the LA casting call on Sunday?

I will be there. :)
Me!

[FCEEVIPER]

I might actually be up in helL.A. this weekend, maybe I might stop by this and... I dunno, just see what happens. Couldn't hurt.

Me!
Kool.

Did you guys sign up on that casting website, or are you guys just going to show up?

[Rindain]

I'll be going to the casting call too, as a business man.

I'll be getting there early for sure...I was an extra on Star Trek and the line was immense and some people I believe didn't get in.

[RedSkull]

It will probably be hard to spot yourselves in the movie as extras with how many people will show up, but it will be worth it if you can actually say you're "in" TDKR.

[Rhiannon]

So jealous of you guys that have the opportunity! Good luck!

[FCEEVIPER]

I'll be going to the casting call too, as a business man.

I'll be getting there early for sure...I was an extra on Star Trek and the line was immense and some people I believe didn't get in.
I think I'll try to be a thug or prisoner. :woot:

It will probably be hard to spot yourselves in the movie as extras with how many people will show up, but it will be worth it if you can actually say you're "in" TDKR.
That's right!

So jealous of you guys that have the opportunity! Good luck!
Thx.

[KalMart]

I think his answer must have come out wrong here. Infact I don't even understand the first part about like being in an airport, being the villain etc.

Everything that happens is preceded and followed by a storm of walkie-talkie chatter, and departmentalized. A lot more people working on larger big-budget sets, so sometimes it can make someone feel like a small cog in a gigantic machine. You could spend days getting a quick action shot, and sometimes it feels like the president's in town when an actor is making their way to the set. Whereas with smaller independent features, you have smaller, more 'intimate' crews, etc..

[jmc]

Anne is back on U.S. soil: http://socialitelife.com/anne-hathaway-catwoman-07-2011

Gallery included.

Dance classes hey? Interesting.

[KRIM]

It would be more interesting if it came from a more reputable source.

[rashad]

It would be more interesting if it came from a more reputable source.

It was.

Anne Hathaway on Her Dark Knight Rises Training
by SuperHeroHype
June 27, 2011

http://www.harpersbazaar.com/cm/harpersbazaar/images/jy/anne-hathaway-0811-7-de.jpg

Anne Hathaway talked briefly to Harper's Bazaar (http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazine/cover/anne-hathaway-interview) about her training for the dual role of Selina Kyle/Catwoman in The Dark Knight Rises (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=63112):

Anne's preparation for her role as Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight Rises, the next Batman installment (currently filming in Pittsburgh), has been more than cosmetic. She has been working out five days a week — rigorous exercise and stunt training followed by an hour and a half of dance.

[Yurka]

How long til you're back?

Filming starts today.

Damn! I fly back tomorrow. I'll be sure to be on the lookout as soon as I get back. I've been out of it for a while, anyone know where they're gonna be filming tomorrow evening? I have the list of street closures and such but does anyone know locations?

[Doctor Who]

I'm not sure if anyone's a fan of that series called the Joker Blogs, but I've been huge on it for a couple of years. LOL Anyway, they're releasing a second season, and the trailer he developed is BRILLIANT by every standard I can dream of. :wow: :hrt: :wow: :hrt: :wow: :hrt: :wow:

aJ38LN_xfVo

[the amazing fro]

^^ Wow. That is really well made.

[QueenChaos]

I'm not sure if anyone's a fan of that series called the Joker Blogs, but I've been huge on it for a couple of years. LOL Anyway, they're releasing a second season, and the trailer he developed is BRILLIANT by every standard I can dream of. :wow: :hrt: :wow: :hrt: :wow: :hrt: :wow:

aJ38LN_xfVo

You just saw this now!? :oldrazz:
Yep, Joker Blogs is awesome :woot: I'm definitely excited for series II. Another thing to look forward to in 2012!

[BatFan88]

Hardy interview:

http://www.hitfix.com/articles/tom-hardy-compares-work-on-dark-knight-to-starbucks-the-airport




Anne is still in Italy as of yesterday:

Pics - http://goo.gl/fb/73xi8 (http://goo.gl/fb/73xi8)

It sounds like hardy is more happy with movies like 'Warrior' then TDKR.
He likes it more that a movie isnt a blockbuster like TDKR.

That is what i can make out of this interview.

[DC Batman]

I'm a little off topic, but I recently made a music video tribute to TDK. It somewhat summarizes the movie and may make you want to watch it again and become even more hyped for TDKR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBwTmt0mlOE

[obin_gam]

You just saw this now!? :oldrazz:
Yep, Joker Blogs is awesome :woot: I'm definitely excited for series II. Another thing to look forward to in 2012!
second!
Joker Blogs are suprisingly good! They are treading a difficult line between "stupid-fan-fiction" and "not-stupid-extended-universe". Luckily, they are still on the latter side :)

[obin_gam]

It sounds like hardy is more happy with movies like 'Warrior' then TDKR.
He likes it more that a movie isnt a blockbuster like TDKR.

That is what i can make out of this interview.
Or it could be that he's equally excited for both films but he's not allowed to talk about DKR yet so he's playing it cool. :dry:

[BatFan88]

Or it could be that he's equally excited for both films but he's not allowed to talk about DKR yet so he's playing it cool. :dry:

Let's hope so.Because they better could have me playing Bane if he didnt like it :oldrazz:

*wish too be in a batman movie*

[Wolverine1988]

WOW, that Joker blog was amazing.

It really made me want Harley Quinn in a movie in the future, if Ledger was still a alive i think it would have been awesome to bring in Harley Quinn and have it be similar to the Joker blog, could hhave been a very interesting sub plot

[kvz5]

I hope they do a press conference in Pittsburgh like what they did back in Chicago with Nolan and Bale.

[Pagan]

Where are are the reports from the Burgh ninjas? Need input!!!!

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/hobodeluxe/short_circuit_2.jpg

[BatFan88]

i hope they do a press conference in pittsburgh like what they did back in chicago with nolan and bale.

+1.....

[BatFan88]

http://twitter.com/#!/hitRECordJoe/status/95880919965122560

from JGL.

[HighFivingMF]

http://twitter.com/#!/hitRECordJoe/status/95880919965122560

from JGL.

2 tweets after:

No not that, think bigger ;o) RT @eva_astrin: "Something to do with 'The Dark Knight Rises'? Give us something!”

[ChrisB]

Bigger than TDKR? Impossible!

[kvz5]

Maybe it's about one of his personal projects. Or maybe about his involvement with Lincoln. That's a pretty huge deal since his part is big.

[lime]

So, are we talking about TDKR news?

[Kynergy]

http://i.imgur.com/OFQsR.jpg

Dragon, what is that a picture of that you just posted in the photo thread?

[Octoberist]

what is that picture?

[Kane52630]

what is that picture?

I see venom! [/Spidey boards] :o

[Dragon_316ca]

Dragon, what is that a picture of that you just posted in the photo thread?

It's a jail-gate set from CMU (Pittsburgh).

[The_Raganork]

Knight_Rise is the writer behind the Joker Blogs BTW

[Nevincer]

Knight_Rise is the writer behind the Joker Blogs BTW
Sweet! :up: Haven't checked out the Joker blogs yet, but it's always awesome hearing about people from our community being influential.

[Kynergy]

It's a jail-gate set from CMU (Pittsburgh).

Ah, okay. Thanks for posting it. :up: Do you know if we will be getting more today?

[mackblack01]

Knight_Rise is the writer behind the Joker Blogs BTW
Yup.

[Kynergy]

Sweet! :up: Haven't checked out the Joker blogs yet, but it's always awesome hearing about people from our community being influential.

You do know who Knight Rise is, right? I don't think influential is the right word to describe him. :cwink: