Ryan Reynolds speaks indirectly on Green Lantern since Box Office flop

[CBMovie]

From the DC Boards



While promoting his new upcoming movie "The Change-Up", Ryan Reynolds, not directly naming the movie in question, talked about how studios are freaking out about their films bombing in the box office simply due to "word of mouth" these days, which has the power to destroy a whole movie.

Ryan Reynolds: "The studios can't trick you now into going to see a bad movie, and still expect to make their budget back in one weekend. Because on Friday night people will come out, and if the movie sucks they're gonna go on Twitter and Facebook telling everyone they know that the movie sucked."

His comment also gives light to the explanation of the embargo on movie reviews placed by Warner Bros on Green Lantern a week before it's release.

Also apparently, his new movie "The Change-Up" is currently getting hammered with negative reviews at 27% right now almost similar to GL.

[The Sage]

No links to torrents...

[The Morningstar]

At least the guy is honest.

[CBMovie]

No links to torrents...
No prob. Didn't even realize the link was for a torrent.

[Excelsior.]

Awaiting Dnno to spin this into something positive.

[shogunrua]

I don't know if it really brings something to the table, out of the fact that now Reynolds is not in "promotion mode" anymore and speaks more sincerely about the movie. But the overabundance of TV-spots/featurette released the week prior Green Lantern's release, and the embargo, already indicated that something might be wrong with this movie, like "begging a girl for sex" levels of wrongness...

[chiefchirpa]

No chance for a sequel eh? How can you have a sequel when the lead star is not enthusiastic anymore...

Reboot. Let Reynolds does Deadpool.

[Jordanstine]

Also apparently, his new movie "The Change-Up" is currently getting hammered with negative reviews at 27% right now almost similar to GL.
Speaking of Change-Up, check out the headline posted by Deadline.com for today:

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/rise-of-planet-of-apes-1-25m-midnights/

Friday Box Office Goes 'Ape' Rising To $19M; Ryan Reynolds Flops Again: 'Change-Up' Sinking To $4.5M (http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/rise-of-planet-of-apes-1-25m-midnights/)

The Change-Up, is bottoming in 4th place with $4.8M Friday and just an estimated $13M for the weekend from 2,913 venues. This truly isn't Ryan Reynolds' summer of stardom after the collapse of Green Lantern here and abroad. It's a disastrous start considering that stars like Reynolds are supposed to open movies to at least $20M. "It's disappointing. We're kind of confounded by it," a Universal executive says about the raunchy comedy with a $50M budget.

2011 isn't Ryan Reynolds' year at all.

:doh:

[Ipodman]

Which year is?

[Pondslider]

The Change-Up looked like crap from the previews.

[The Sage]

Not really a fan of rom-coms. I preferred his work in Buried to that stuff.

[Ipodman]

He was good in Buried, but the movie itself is not good...

[The Morningstar]

The guy is a decent actor. It's just the films where he's had the chance to show of his range and ability are little indie films or flops. I mean, he's really good in The Nines and Fireflies in the Garden, but barely anyone has heard of those films.

And obviously his choices of big blockbuster roles have been pretty poor.

[truth]

He was miscast. The guy is a comedian, not an actor

[The Morningstar]

No, he is a good actor. Watch other movies than his rom coms and frat boy comedies.

Fact is, you could put Steve McQueen in the lead role of GL and it'd still be ****. The script was just soooo bad it's not even funny.

[HighFivingMF]

He was miscast. The guy is a comedian, not an actor

No he wasn't. No he isn't. Yes he is.

[Bruce_Begins]

I believe that Ryan Reynolds is a decent enough actor and Martin Campbell is a good director, in case of GL the main problem was the script and the choice of villains.

I would count the following factors responsible for the box Office failure of GL -

1. Lack of good script / story by Greg Berlanti, Michael Green and Marc Guggenheim.

2. Movie budget shooting above the originally planned 150 million.

3. Ridiculous Marketing and spending unnecessary amount of money on Marketing.

4. Poor choice of villains.

5. CGI special effects not getting completed on time which resulted in getting several scenes cut from the original script.

In spite of the above short comings the movie was an average entertaining summer movie.
A lot of bad word of mouth (not completely justified, IMO.) resulted in poor B.O. performance.

[jmc]

You know, I'm not surprised at all that studios fear the likes of Facebook and Twitter, bad word of word of mouth spreads like wild fire in today's world that's constantly getting smaller. They can't trick people as easily as the use too 10 years ago so they have to resort to tactics like placing embargoes until the day of release in an attempt to save their arses. Awaiting Dnno to spin this into something positive.

Should we all take guesses as to how he'd do that? :hehe:

[Excelsior.]

Should we all take guesses as to how he'd do that? It is fruitless. His ability to spin anything bad about this film to good is one of a kind.

[Sardaukar]

In the old days, all studios had to worry about was pleasing your local newspaper critic. Now, you can go online and find out what critics are saying from across the world. Some movies appear to be critic proof, like Transformers, but lesser known properties like Green Lantern need all the help they can get.

[TheVileOne]

Ryan Reynolds is a proven failure as a mega star and box office draw now.

The Proposal was a hit but that was mainly because of Sandy Bullock.

[Excelsior.]

Ryan Reynolds is a proven failure as a mega star and box office draw now.

The Proposal was a hit but that was mainly because of Sandy Bullock.
Did Reynolds steal your girlfriend or something?

[Ipodman]

Did Reynolds steal your girlfriend or something?

He's kinda right... Hollywood seems to want to turn RR into the next big action star but it's not working...

[Bruce_Begins]

He's kinda right... Hollywood seems to want to turn RR into the next big action star but it's not working...

Chris Evans was facing the same problem before getting success as Captain America.

(Remember Fantastic Four - 1, 2, Scott Pilgrim, Losers ?)

[jmc]

They're also trying to shove Blake Lively down our throats too.

[Excelsior.]

They're also trying to shove Blake Lively down our throats too.

She must be ...pleasing somebody or somebodies very high up at WB. Lot's of happy endings involved.

[KalMart]

It is fruitless. His ability to spin anything bad about this film to good is one of a kind.

In that it always fails?

[J.Howlett]

No. Her show is produced by WB. It's been on the air for five years, I think. Not to mention, she got good notices for her supporting role in the Town. Her two Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants films, which were solid box office hits considering their budgets, were also done at WB.

[Liam_H]

^Yeap, WB is just using their own hand to feed themselves. Try to get her to hit it big and if she doesn't than no harm.

[Reality]

Why are people trying to shove Ryan down our throats?

[Bruce_Begins]

Why are people trying to shove Ryan down our throats?

Nobody said this in relation to Chris Evans who was in Fantastic Four, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, Scott Pilgrim Vs The World, Losers, Captain America: The First Avenger, so what this hatred to Ryan Reynolds ?

[Ipodman]

Because Chris Evans was good in those movies, even though some of those movies themselves weren't all that great overall. Ryan Reynolds on the other hand, seems to destroy whatever hes in.

[Bruce_Begins]

He was good in Amityville horror and Buried.

[Liam_H]

Ryan Reynolds does not destroy whatever he is in. He was the best part of both Blade 3 and Origins. Those movies would've sucked if he were in it or not especially Origins. He wasn't exactly the right person to play Hal Jordan but the general consensus is that he tried the best with what he was given in this movie.

[The Morningstar]

Yea, the idea that Reynolds destroys whatever he is in is kinda, stupid.

He's a good actor, he's just been in some terrible movies recently. Even whilst Green Lantern got slaughtered pretty much every critic was like "Reynolds did the best he could but was let down by the awful script" etc.

[HighFivingMF]

Why are people trying to shove Ryan down our throats?

Nobody's trying to shove anything down your throat. You can choose to watch his movies or not.

[Mace Dolex]

Not to mention with an over abundance of supehero movies this Summer I think GL would've fared better in the Fall or Winter.

[The Morningstar]

It would have fared better if it was a better film with a solid marketing campaign.

[Shadowlord X]

Shouldn't we be trying to shove ourselves down Blake Lively's throat?

[Chris B]

Its a shame. I thought Reynolds made a good Hal Jordan.

[Ipodman]

He was a horrible Hal Jordan... he was an acceptable Wade Wilson...

[HighFivingMF]

He was a horrible Hal Jordan... he was an acceptable Wade Wilson...

He was a pretty damn good both.

[The Sage]

Its a shame. I thought Reynolds made a good Hal Jordan.

Same.

[Metallo]

I thought he was a much better fit for Wilson than he was for Jordan. he wasn't TERRIBLE as Hal but he wasn't great either.

Deadpool is much more in line with Reynolds strengths.

[arman200]

Same.

Yeah, when I left the theater disappointed, plenty of people told me the same thing :"To be honest, the moment I heard Ryan Reynolds was Hal, I was kinda worried". That confused me, because he was one of the few things I enjoyed about the film.

[GreenKToo]

I always wanted Ryan cast as the Flash..(IMO the Flash would be perfect for Reynolds style of acting and personality..

[Wolverine1988]

Ryan Reynolds does not destroy whatever he is in. He was the best part of both Blade 3 and Origins. Those movies would've sucked if he were in it or not especially Origins. He wasn't exactly the right person to play Hal Jordan but the general consensus is that he tried the best with what he was given in this movie.

He was one of the main reasons Blade 3 sucked so much.

Seriously literally every line he said was some sort of sarcastic comment, joke or what ever. It was annoying and totally killed the feel for the movie, i mean Jessic Biel certaintly helped as well and the movie in general wasn't that good.

Reynolds whole act is annoying, everyone keeps saying he is a good actor, but they base it off a couple of movies that aren't even that good.

He can be the next Brando for all we know, but untill he starts picking better movies, showing more range , he will never get any reconigtion or respect.

You can't be a good actor, if literally almost every move you are in bombs or sucks.

A part of being a good actor, is picking good movies to do.

So no, untill he proves he can do a better job of picking movies and not Romantic comedies or failed comic book movies, i don't know how anyone can consider him a great actor.

[The Sage]

Good actors pick weak scripts sometimes, and not always intentionally.

I barely remember Blade 3, but the key factor to it sucking was the story. The tone of the movie being ruined had nothing to do with him.

In Wolverine, Reynolds was easily part of the best ten or fifteen minutes of the movie. And he was good in Buried.

[spider13]

I agree he was amazing in buried.

[Wolverine1988]

Good actors pick weak scripts sometimes, and not always intentionally.

I barely remember Blade 3, but the key factor to it sucking was the story. The tone of the movie being ruined had nothing to do with him.

In Wolverine, Reynolds was easily part of the best ten or fifteen minutes of the movie. And he was good in Buried.

All his movies are weak scripts though.

You people keep saying how good he is, yet he doesn't have one single bonafide hit to his name.

Blade 3 sucked because of the story, but Ryan Reynolds was like Ryan Reynolds like he always is, but on steroids, seriously he wouldn't shut up . I know thats the character , but he wasn't funny and it came across annoying.


He was good in Buried,i haven't seen it but i guess thats his one movie to his name he can fall back on....Not saying much but better than nothing i guess.

IDK how anyone can be considered a great actor if all he does is movies that flop and aren't good.

Again maybe he can act , but he has yet to prove he can be in a good movie, untill than he will just be another run of the mill Hollywood actor, who fizzles in no time.

[The Morningstar]

How is "cock juggling thunder****" not awesome? Reynolds and Posey were the only good things about Blade Trinity.

[The Sage]

All his movies are weak scripts though.

You people keep saying how good he is, yet he doesn't have one single bonafide hit to his name.

Blade 3 sucked because of the story, but Ryan Reynolds was like Ryan Reynolds like he always is, but on steroids, seriously he wouldn't shut up . I know thats the character , but he wasn't funny and it came across annoying.


He was good in Buried,i haven't seen it but i guess thats his one movie to his name he can fall back on....Not saying much but better than nothing i guess.

IDK how anyone can be considered a great actor if all he does is movies that flop and aren't good.

Again maybe he can act , but he has yet to prove he can be in a good movie, untill than he will just be another run of the mill Hollywood actor, who fizzles in no time.

The same way that Sam Worthington and Keanu Reeves are considered whack actors but have been in some good and entertaining movies, Avatar and The Matrix respectively.

Reynolds is good but needs to pick better scripts.

And you really should see Buried.

[chamber-music]

I really don't understand why some modern Hollywood execs think story, character ect and action special effects movies don't mix.

Hollywood Execs thing the whole dark and gritty is what worked with Nolans Batman and should be used with other superheroes when what they should of taken from Nolans Batman is plot and characters is what matters.

You get the plot, characters and the big special effects you will win people over sure enough.

[*Whiplash*]

I like Reynolds.

Thought he was great in The Amityville Horror and Waiting seemed to be written for him as he was the best part of that movie.

Hopefully R.I.P.D. does better with the likes of Bridges and Bacon on board.

[Wolverine1988]

How is "cock juggling thunder****" not awesome? Reynolds and Posey were the only good things about Blade Trinity.


Maybe if you are in the 5th grade, might you find them actually funny or good.

Besides it was a Blade film, not a Judd Apatow film there shouldn't have been two characters who were pretty much there for comic relief.

[Wolverine1988]

The same way that Sam Worthington and Keanu Reeves are considered whack actors but have been in some good and entertaining movies, Avatar and The Matrix respectively.

Reynolds is good but needs to pick better scripts.

And you really should see Buried.

Avatar is tremdously overated, and ill say this much about Keannu Reeves, id much rather watch a film with him in it than Ryan Reynolds.

Say what you wan't about Reeves, but he has been in some good movies in his career, so he has obviously doing something right as Reynolds is hyped up to be so talented yet he hasn't made one good movie.

Again, it doesn't matter how much skill he has or will have if he does bad movies.

[The Sage]

Avatar is tremdously overated, and ill say this much about Keannu Reeves, id much rather watch a film with him in it than Ryan Reynolds.

Say what you wan't about Reeves, but he has been in some good movies in his career, so he has obviously doing something right as Reynolds is hyped up to be so talented yet he hasn't made one good movie.

Again, it doesn't matter how much skill he has or will have if he does bad movies.

So really the problem isn't how talented he is, but his selection of movie scripts. Which I would agree with. Reeves is considered a mediocre to bad actor but knows how to pick scripts. Them being a success doesn't necessarily mean he's a good actor.

[HighFivingMF]

Maybe if you are in the 5th grade, might you find them actually funny or good.


Awww man. The gwown-up is here. :csad:

[T-CLIPSE]

Hey Reynolds, you how to stop Twitter and Facebook bad word of mouth?...tell studios to stop making bad movies to bad mouth, simple.

And as for you Mr. "sexiest man alive" I guess it clearly demonstrates that regardless of how much fanboy love and praise you receive on comicbook message boards and regardless of how many women want to have your baby it doesn't mean squat because those very same fanboys who seem to want you to play every superhero in existence and for every woman who wants to get in your bed they will still throw your butt under the bus and to the wolves the first chance they get, and those green C.G.I tights can't overcome that and your latest romantic comedy bomb also proves that.

Pick some better scripts dude and stop blaming it on movie studios, Twitter and Facebook.

[Ipodman]

He's not outright blaming... more like making logical deductions :dry:

[HighFivingMF]

Hey Reynolds, you how to stop Twitter and Facebook bad word of mouth?...tell studios to stop making bad movies to bad mouth, simple.

And as for you Mr. "sexiest man alive" I guess it clearly demonstrates that regardless of how much fanboy love and praise you receive on comicbook message boards and regardless of how many women want to have your baby it doesn't mean squat because those very same fanboys who seem to want you to play every superhero in existence and for every woman who wants to get in your bed they will still throw your butt under the bus and to the wolves the first chance they get, and those green C.G.I tights can't overcome that and your latest romantic comedy bomb also proves that.

Pick some better scripts dude and stop blaming it on movie studios, Twitter and Facebook.
His last romantic comedy bomb? Wasn't his last romantic comedy The Proposal that grossed a ****ton?

[Evil Twin]

Keanu Reeves isn't the greatest technical actor, but he brings more to the table than just a good taste in scripts. He's naturally funny. He projects easy likableness. And he knows how to share a scene with co-stars. He's a genuine assett in the Bill and Ted movies, Parenthood, Speed, Point Break, The Matrix, and much of his independent work.

[T-CLIPSE]

He's not outright blaming... more like making logical deductions :dry:

Yeah well I was making a logical deduction too, and if you ask me Reynolds needs to do exactly like his latest movie title says and 'change up' his movie selection habits.

[HighFivingMF]

Yeah well I was making a logical deduction too, and if you ask me Reynolds needs to do exactly like his latest movie title says and 'change up' his movie selection habits.

If he enjoys making the kinds of movies he's making, why should he choose different ones? He gets payed regardless.

[T-CLIPSE]

If he enjoys making the kinds of movies he's making, why should he choose different ones? He gets payed regardless.
Hey I didn't say he should make different movies, just his habits of selecting bad ones. If he wants to do romantic comedies fine just make sure you pick a good one, if he wants to do superheroes then do that, just pick a good one.

And if you want my opinion....Deadpool ain't it, so he needs to stop reading all the fanboy hype about wanting him to do it and make a decision based on quality of script and not based upon his own self proclaimed love of that character and fanboy pleading.

[The Morningstar]

You need to read the Deadpool script then. It's genius. One of the smartest comic book movie scripts i've ever read.

[T-CLIPSE]

You need to read the Deadpool script then. It's genius. One of the smartest comic book movie scripts i've ever read.
Well if it's a good script then I say go for it, but I'll also say this, they better put the word X-Men in front of the characters name to give it some visibility and they better make sure the release date is somewhere in February or the holiday season and not sandwiched in between Transformers 4 and Iron Man 3 smack dab in the middle of summer or Ryan Reynolds 'Deadpool' and the "smartest comicbook movie scripts I've ever read" won't mean diddly.

Deadpool as far as I'm concerned (great script or not) is similar to Green Lantern, the comicbook geeks might be foaming at the mouth for it but the general audience couldn't care less about it.

[dnno1]

From the DC Boards





His comment also gives light to the explanation of the embargo on movie reviews placed by Warner Bros on Green Lantern a week before it's release.

Also apparently, his new movie "The Change-Up" is currently getting hammered with negative reviews at 27% right now almost similar to GL.

The first weekend when I was tracking Twitter, I didn't see that many people saying the movie sucked. I think it was the reviews and lack of interest that resulted in the current box office numbers.

[theMan-Bat]

I don't believe Ryan Reynolds was indirectly saying Green Lantern is a bad movie and sucks. I believe that he was talking about bad movies in general and not referring to Green Lantern as one, and some people are misinterpreting that quote as a reference to Green Lantern.

No chance for a sequel eh? How can you have a sequel when the lead star is not enthusiastic anymore...

When Kara Warner asked him in August where he would like a Green Lantern sequel to go, he said, "It's infinite. There's 70 years of history there, so you could go anywhere. So we'll see."
It sounds like he's actually still enthusiastic for a Green Lantern sequel but just uncertain if there will be one at this time.
"I have no idea, that's not up to me. I don't write those checks. And if I did I certainly wouldn't be standing on a red carpet, I would be sunning myself somewhere."
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/08/03/ryan-reynolds-deadpool-green-lantern/

Reboot.Going forward with a Green Lantern sequel is what is being considered by Warner Brothers Film Group President Jeff Robinov, not reintroducing Green Lantern all over again from scratch.
"I don't believe there is superhero fatigue. Every year there are half a dozen or more horror films and comedies. Superheroes have become a genre of their own and if you deliver, there's an audience. We had a decent opening so we learned there is an audience. To go forward we need to make it a little edgier and darker with more emphasis on action. And we have to find a way to balance the time the movie spends in space versus on Earth."
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2011/08/comic-book-bites-captain-ameri.html

Let Reynolds do Deadpool.Ryan Reynolds said Deadpool is in development still. He wants to play both characters.
"There’s no rule that says you can’t play two different characters in two different comic book universes."
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/07/21/ryan-reynolds-says-theres-no-rule-against-playing-deadpool-and-green-lantern/

[T-CLIPSE]

Ryan Reynolds said Deadpool is in development still. He wants to play both characters.
"There’s no rule that says you can’t play two different characters in two different comic book universes."
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/07/21/ryan-reynolds-says-theres-no-rule-against-playing-deadpool-and-green-lantern/
That guy can't even count, he's played THREE different characters in two different comic book universes.

[chiefchirpa]

I don't believe Ryan Reynolds was indirectly saying Green Lantern is a bad movie and sucks. I believe that he was talking about bad movies in general and not referring to Green Lantern as one, and some people are misinterpreting that quote as a reference to Green Lantern.



When Kara Warner asked him in August where he would like a Green Lantern sequel to go, he said, "It's infinite. There's 70 years of history there, so you could go anywhere. So we'll see."
It sounds like he's actually still enthusiastic for a Green Lantern sequel but just uncertain if there will be one at this time.
"I have no idea, that's not up to me. I don't write those checks. And if I did I certainly wouldn't be standing on a red carpet, I would be sunning myself somewhere."
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/08/03/ryan-reynolds-deadpool-green-lantern/

Going forward with a Green Lantern sequel is what is being considered by Warner Brothers Film Group President Jeff Robinov, not reintroducing Green Lantern all over again from scratch.
"I don't believe there is superhero fatigue. Every year there are half a dozen or more horror films and comedies. Superheroes have become a genre of their own and if you deliver, there's an audience. We had a decent opening so we learned there is an audience. To go forward we need to make it a little edgier and darker with more emphasis on action. And we have to find a way to balance the time the movie spends in space versus on Earth."
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2011/08/comic-book-bites-captain-ameri.html

Ryan Reynolds said Deadpool is in development still. He wants to play both characters.
"There’s no rule that says you can’t play two different characters in two different comic book universes."
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/07/21/ryan-reynolds-says-theres-no-rule-against-playing-deadpool-and-green-lantern/

If Reynolds was still enthusiastic with the franchise he would directly say "yes" and went to the movie's Australia premiere as if it's a priority. But he didn't.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/ryan-reynolds-a-no-show-for-green-lantern-premiere-in-sydney/story-e6frewz0-1226111922674

[HighFivingMF]

If Reynolds was still enthusiastic with the franchise he would directly say "yes" and went to the movie's Australia premiere as if it's a priority. But he didn't.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/ryan-reynolds-a-no-show-for-green-lantern-premiere-in-sydney/story-e6frewz0-1226111922674

It's great that you've figured out the mechanics of Ryan Reynolds' mind and speech patterns.

[The Morningstar]

Well if it's a good script then I say go for it, but I'll also say this, they better put the word X-Men in front of the characters name to give it some visibility and they better make sure the release date is somewhere in February or the holiday season and not sandwiched in between Transformers 4 and Iron Man 3 smack dab in the middle of summer or Ryan Reynolds 'Deadpool' and the "smartest comicbook movie scripts I've ever read" won't mean diddly.

Deadpool as far as I'm concerned (great script or not) is similar to Green Lantern, the comicbook geeks might be foaming at the mouth for it but the general audience couldn't care less about it.

Fair points. But I think with Deadpool they aiming it as a hard R action movie with a smaller budget. Not a 100 million dollar summer superhero blockbuster. Which is what the character needs if he isn't to be watered down.

I think Reynolds' exact words were "cheap and nasty".

[chiefchirpa]

It's great that you've figured out the mechanics of Ryan Reynolds' mind and speech patterns.

Yeah, it's great. Without a fanboy mental block, you could do it yourself too.

[HighFivingMF]

Yeah, it's great. Without a fanboy mental block, you could do it yourself too.

No, I think I just don't make assumptions based on the way somebody words their sentences.

[The Sage]

That guy can't even count, he's played THREE different characters in two different comic book universes.

He was talking about playing characters in two different universes at the same time.

[theMan-Bat]

If Reynolds was still enthusiastic with the franchise he would directly say "yes" and went to the movie's Australia premiere as if it's a priority. But he didn't.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/ryan-reynolds-a-no-show-for-green-lantern-premiere-in-sydney/story-e6frewz0-1226111922674

Ryan Reynolds pulled out of attending due to scheduling conflicts. He's preparing for a movie that is to begin filming in Boston by the end of the month called R.I.P.D. with Jeff Bridges, based on the Rest In Peace Department comic book series published by Dark Horse Comics. Green Lantern should have premiered in Australia back in June. I'm sure it's not easy to work around the erratic late release schedules of Green Lantern around the world. Having run into scheduling conflicts doesn't mean that he doesn't care and doesn't want Green Lantern to do well around the world.

[©KAW]

It would have fared better if it was a better film with a solid marketing campaign.
...And didn't star Ryan Reynolds.

[The Morningstar]

No... the movie could have starred Steve McQueen as Hal and it'd still have been a steaming pile.

[Austin372]

I would not consider the movie a total flop. Recently, it made a total worldwide gross of 206 million. It had a projected budget of 200 million. So what if it didn't make a big profit yet - it made back its money. Now WB will have to see what sales will be made when the DVD is released in October.

[KingMadness]

Lets hope Ryan Reynolds goes back to ruining Marvel characters, and stays there.

[HighFivingMF]

Lets hope Ryan Reynolds goes back to ruining Marvel characters, and stays there.

Goes back to ruining Marvel characters? He's yet to ruin a character anywhere.

[EliteF50]

I don't understand the hate for Ryan... he was a fantastic Hal Jordan. It's not his fault the script wasn't great.

[RoughNTumble]

Ryan tried very hard to get into the character of jal jordan, and it's apparent in his performance.

He wasn't bad, but he wasn't exceptional either. He just wasn't a very good natural fit for the role, and they definitely could have done better.

However, the main reason the movie was bad was the terrible script and a director that didn't understand the character or his mythos. Reynolds wasn't responsible for making or breaking the movie.

[dnno1]

The choice of villains in this film wasn't exceptional. That was part of the problem.

[Panthro]

The choice of villains in this film wasn't exceptional. That was part of the problem.

A weak villain in Hector Hammond certainly didn't help.

[ThanosOfTitans]

I've never been a big Ryan Reynolds fan...it does seem as if Hollywood is forcing him down our throats (i probably have a biased opinion).

Most of his roles he appears to play the same type of character. Rarely is there any diversity in his performance.

I wanted Green Lantern to be a good movie, but I had a pretty good idea it would be subpar once he was cast. Cute face, nice body, mediocre actor.

Hollywood seems insistent on trying to make him the next Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Arnold schwarzenegger or Harrison Ford...it's just not going to happen.

[The Sage]

Thought he did a good job as Hal and I liked him in Buried. Looking forward to him working with Denzel in Safe House.

[HighFivingMF]

I don't understand how you can have something shoved down your throat when it's your choice whether or not you see the movies. Saying he doesn't have any range is a flat-out lie. Yes, a lot of his characters smile and joke, but that's about the extent of it.

[ThanosOfTitans]

I don't think I ever explicitly stated he doesn't have any range...that's debatable. He just seems to play the same character in most of his roles. I admit, I have a biased opinion...

It's just difficult for me to digest him as a serious actor. Let's be honest for 5.342423 seconds...with the exception of Buried, in most of his movies he is just the wise cracking eye candy. Watch the Change Up...you'll notice that even after he "switches bodies" and is supposed to be playing a totally different person...it still seems like Ryan Reynolds playing himself. That movie is actually a pretty pleasantly surprising movie, but when Ryan Reynolds is on camera...it seems he really isn't being anyone else other than himself which is not really acting (i.e. Blade III, The Proposal, The Change Up, Wolverine Origins, Green Lantern, The Losers, Van Wilder, Just Friends and I'm sure there are many others).

Maybe he does have something I just don't see, but he isn't giving himself much opportunity to showcase his talent (though I suppose The Amityville Horror was a different role for him which he did pretty good in).

[The Sage]

Reynolds wasn't in The Losers...

I haven't seen all of his movies. Blade III was long ago and I barely remember that movie for good reason. In Wolverine Origins, he was part of the best piece of the movie IMO. The Proposal was okay, nothing special.

Part of the reason it's hard to take him as a serious actor is because he doesn't do that many serious roles. That's why I liked him in Buried and looking forward to Safe House. It's something new.

[The Morningstar]

The Nines and Chaos Theory are his best performances. The Nines in particular.

[HighFivingMF]

The Nines alone he played several characters completely unique when compared to each other.

[ThanosOfTitans]

I've actually heard good things about Chaos Theory but haven't gotten around to checking it out.

And yes, The Losers he was not in. My bad. < = )

[redfirebird2008]

I would not consider the movie a total flop. Recently, it made a total worldwide gross of 206 million. It had a projected budget of 200 million. So what if it didn't make a big profit yet - it made back its money. Now WB will have to see what sales will be made when the DVD is released in October.


It's a flop. $200m is just the production budget. That doesn't include the insanely desperate marketing campaign they launched for it, which likely cost around $100m. That blitz of TV ads couldn't have been cheap. To make matters worse, the studio doesn't get anywhere near the total revenue from the movie. The theaters receive a pretty big chunk of it, especially overseas. The studio likely received around 70% of the revenue, which would be roughly $155m.

$300m in costs vs. $155m in revenue. Ouch.

[Kahran Ramsus]

It's a flop. $200m is just the production budget. That doesn't include the insanely desperate marketing campaign they launched for it, which likely cost around $100m. That blitz of TV ads couldn't have been cheap. To make matters worse, the studio doesn't get anywhere near the total revenue from the movie. The theaters receive a pretty big chunk of it, especially overseas. The studio likely received around 70% of the revenue, which would be roughly $155m.

$300m in costs vs. $155m in revenue. Ouch.

70% is way too high. Studios keep more like 50-55% of the revenue.

[Darkb0rn]

I like Ryan Reynolds and like the movies he does, but he just wasn't right for the role. Really the only characters that seemed right were the ones who were CGI.

[Karelia]

I don't think it was really his fault. He's shown he can be great at serious roles. And I think RR made Hal a little less boring than he can be in the comics. I love the GL mythology around Hal, but Hal himself can be a little boring sometimes. Not as much these days though. :D and Mark Strong as Sinestro is the perfect movie version. I don't see how anyone can really top it. (He needed more screen time!)

That said, I still don't understand all the hate it gets (I mean comparing it to Batman & Robin type hate.) It was decent film. Just not epic like it should have been.

[Panthro]

I don't think it was really his fault. He's shown he can be great at serious roles. And I think RR made Hal a little less boring than he can be in the comics. I love the GL mythology around Hal, but Hal himself can be a little boring sometimes. Not as much these days though. :D and Mark Strong as Sinestro is the perfect movie version. I don't see how anyone can really top it. (He needed more screen time!)

That said, I still don't understand all the hate it gets (I mean comparing it to Batman & Robin type hate.) It was decent film. Just not epic like it should have been.
I wonder sometimes if the movie was under too much pressure due to it being the first DC comics film to truly be about a DC character who is not Batman or Superman (Watchmen & Constatine don't count). Also, it may have done better if released around say... Thanksgiving or Christmas rather than a summer that was already loaded with 3 other superhero films among other event films.