Captain Planet - An exericise in the falicy of Website Rules

[Spider-Who?]

(:doh: can't believe I spelled fallacy - and exercise - wrong...Mods, please see it in your very large and buxom hearts to fix - i blame it o my broken hand...anyway....)

We all know the rules of this site. We may argue over some of them, get threads deleted, receive infractions and even get banned for them. Often times, people get infracted and even banned for letting curse words slip through the cracks by way of pictures or videos. Regardless of the person's intent or awareness of the rules, punishment is given because this is a PG site.

I'm curious then, why there is a video posted on this sites front page with several uses of the f word? If you haven't seen it, its a Funny or Die video about Captain Planet. I'd post a link to the SHH news article, but you know I'd get an infraction. If cursing is such a bannable offense, then how does it get posted by the very people who made up the rules? There is a disclaimer about language, but does that really validate the hypocrisy?

[Darthphere]

Oh dear.

[Spider-Who?]

lol, I'm not trying to start a fight (I'm not one to attack the mods with pitch forks or any thing). I just found this to be an interesting situation, and am curious to see what others feel about it - especially those who've gotten in trouble for this sort of thing.

[twylight]

Traditionally don't these threads go in the Support area? :huh:

[Darthphere]

Standard responses:

Get over it.

If you don't like it leave.

The Hype is not a democracy.


It's almost like a Choose Your Own Adventure book.

[Prison Mike]

Standard responses:

Get over it.

If you don't like it leave.

The Hype is not a democracy.


It's almost like a Choose Your Own Adventure book.

I like that one the best! :up:

[twylight]

Gonna take a stab at this, since, I've got nothing else to do. :meow:

The front page is a news/noteworthy source for all things superhero. The forum is just a place for people to come and discuss what is (or is not) on the front page.

Basically a website = no rules to wrangling news.
Forum = rules because it's people not news that are being wrangled.

I personally, don't see the big deal? Even if someone wanted to make a discussion thread about the Captain Planet video all they have to do is go say "HEY GUIZ! That Cap Planet video on the front page! Thoughts? LOLZ!"
Unless of course, that would mean an infraction for making people go look at the front page... but doesn't SHH want the webtraffic anyway? :huh:


Standard responses:

Get over it.

If you don't like it leave.

The Hype is not a democracy.


It's almost like a Choose Your Own Adventure book.

SHH! Forums: CYOA

To the Fan fiction forum! :awesome:

[Darthphere]

I like that one the best! :up:

You're really living up to your name lately.

[twylight]

.. What. The. Heck.

Where is the :meow: smilie? :csad:


:meow: :meow: :meow:


:waa:


:cmad: WHERE?

[Darthphere]

Some people are overreacting to this (myself, I do it for the lawlz). The logic is, if I post a video with that amount of cursing on here, I would get banned. The truth is, in those type of situations, I've never seen someone get banned for an offense of that nature. I've seen mods warn the poster to take it down or just delete the post but I've never seen mods ban people for it (unless they repeatedly did it).

WHY AM I DEFENDING MODS?!?!?!?!?!

[Spider-Nerd]

Lesson #1 in law school: Freedom of speech only protects you from the government:o.

Lesson #2 in law school: Follow Mirko's rules or else:argh:

[Prison Mike]

Yeah, posting videos with curse words is not a bannable offence. At most, you may get an infraction. I believe that if you get a certain amount of infractions then you are automatically banned.

[Teelie]

Rules are often arbitrary and trying to fight them is even more arbitrary. The front page news is an exception to whatever rules the rest of us peons must follow anyways.

[Prison Mike]

Lesson #1 in law school: Freedom of speech only protects you from the government:o.

Lesson #2 in law school: Follow Mirko's rules or else:argh:

That's what most people don't seem to get. They think it applies everywhere. :o

[Spider-Nerd]

I must admit as well, I haven't checked the front page of SHH since it was spider-man hype. I've just bookmarked the forums and I consider the forums entirely separate from SHH or CS.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

:bdh:

[chaseter]

If I had made this thread, Bamfer would have already been in here peeing on my feet and warning me to stop.

[Teelie]

That's what most people don't seem to get. They think it applies everywhere. :o
I do see that a lot too. The best way to explain it is you are not allowed to wander into someone's house uninvited and scream profanties at them and this is like walking into someone's house and doing just that.

[Spider-Who?]

If I had made this thread, Bamfer would have already been in here peeing on my feet and warning me to stop.
Well, i'm not one that usually rocks the boat (and this thread isn't an attempt to - I'm aware the mods really don't have any say in the matter). I try to stay outta the mods' way. But in this instance, I became very curious as it seemed its a glaring contradiction.

[bullets]

It is a contradiction and also you spelled exercise incorrectly.

[Motown Marvel]

yes. i've been infracted numerous times for language. i've been infracted when i self-censored the curse word instead of letting the auto-censor do it for me. i've been infracted when i let the auto-censor do it but the mod didnt like the context of the curse word. these censor rules are pretty ridiculous to begin with, in my opinion. yet alone to come on the site to see that video on the front page. i have no problem with its content, but its highly hypocritical of the site.

[Spider-Who?]

It is a contradiction and also you spelled exercise incorrectly.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! And I'm usually a good spelker!!!!!!!!!

:woot:

I'd ask the mods to fix it, but they'll probably tell me to bugger off, considering the subject of the thread.

[twylight]

:meow:

:csad:


Anyway, it's not hypocritical. The front page and the forums are two completely different types of webpages. It's like comparing apples and oranges, vanilla and chocolate, Superman and The Sentinel.

If Excel or Mirko had come skipping in and posted it in a thread, then it would be hypocritical.

I would however like to hear Excel/Mirko's explanation though. :atp:

[Motown Marvel]

i dont buy the two seperate entities excuse. its all the same site run. these are the forums for the front page. you'd expect the standards to be the same.

[Darthphere]

I do see that a lot too. The best way to explain it is you are not allowed to wander into someone's house uninvited and scream profanties at them and this is like walking into someone's house and doing just that.

This analogy doesn't work at all because we are invited. The whole point of a website/forum is to get as many people in here clicking ads. In this case they're holding the door open for all of us to register, post, send out links and click on ads on this site. Your analogy is quite terrible to be honest with you.

[Teelie]

We are invited but there are rules that say you can't come in swearing. So if you want to mince details and nitpick to the literal point of inanity: You can't come into someone's home and start swearing when they explicitly tell you not to. They can tell you to stop or leave and it is their right. They might let the entertainment curse up a storm, but you're not the entertainment.

Better or should I needlessly keep adding specific details and constantly refine it to the point of making sure I catch every little nuance of what is or is not permitted? Nitpicking the rules or an analogy is just an excuse anyways.

[Darthphere]

i dont buy the two seperate entities excuse. its all the same site run. these are the forums for the front page. you'd expect the standards to be the same.

Not really. You can control content you already know, it's a lot harder to control content you don't. The front page knows what the video contains and knowing that, provided a disclaimer. There's no way the administration team on this site knows what 25,000+ people registered here are going to post, hence why they need to control/censor things here. Honestly, I've personally gotten over the censoring aspect of this board. It's not that big of a deal that we can't curse and it seems obvious that I can't post naked ladies and the like. Whether you think it's hypocritical or not is up to you but at the end of the day, there is a difference between the front page and the boards.

WHY THE HECKLEBERRY AM I DEFENDING MODS?:csad:

[Teelie]

WHY THE HECKLEBERRY AM I DEFENDING MODS?:csad:
Because you like to argue?

[Darthphere]

We are invited but there are rules that say you can't come in swearing. So if you want to mince details and nitpick to the literal point of inanity: You can't come into someone's home and start swearing when they explicitly tell you not to. They can tell you to stop or leave and it is their right. They might let the entertainment curse up a storm, but you're not the entertainment.

Better or should I needlessly keep adding specific details and constantly refine it to the point of making sure I catch every little nuance of what is or is not permitted? Nitpicking the rules or an analogy is just an excuse anyways.

You should have posted this instead of your extremely terrible analogy. Keep up the good work.:o

[Colossal Spoons]

:bdh:

x infinity

[Darthphere]

Because you like to argue and complain against the moderatorship?

Except I'm not. I see your just an overall terrible poster and not just terrible at analogies.

[Teelie]

I was rushed. And bored. And not particularly caring how specific I made my analogy to this forum countering the typical "It's a First Amendment Right" arguments.

[Teelie]

Except I'm not. I see your just an overall terrible poster and not just terrible at analogies.
And yet you seem to find nothing better to do than complain... I'm a terrible poster based on two posts, one directed at you.

[Darthphere]

I was rushed. And bored. And not particularly caring how specific I made my analogy to this forum countering the typical "It's a First Amendment Right" arguments.

No please, you don't need to provide excuses. It's ok. I'm just a mere poster who has been invited to this site and told not to cuss. I am no one to demand an explanation. Please, don't let me deter you from posting any further.

[Darthphere]

And yet you seem to find nothing better to do than complain... I'm a terrible poster based on two posts, one directed at you.

You only have one chance to make a first impression. I love you.:hrt:

[Spider-Who?]

Except I'm not. I see your just an overall terrible poster and not just terrible at analogies.
Is that really necessary?

[Darthphere]

Is that really necessary?

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[Spider-Who?]

:awesome:

[twylight]

Were we even debating first amendment rights? :huh:

I thought it was "They did, why can't we?"

No one is questioning that it's the big boys playground. What they say goes.
But asking 'why' was allowed last time I looked. Honestly, I'm glad this thread was made, because the same question has been floating around, behind the scenes, since the video was posted. It would be nice to have an answer from the person responsible.

And just to point it out: After that video was posted on SHH, I had no less than 4-5 SHH members I know on facebook repost it on their FB walls. Darn good business if you ask me on SHH's part.

[Teelie]

Is that really necessary?

Yes it is. First impressions are important. If someone sees you a certain way, you are irrevocably like that forever in their minds. Unless you get one of those mind wipers from the Men In Black and make them forget.

[Erzengel]

Some people are overreacting to this (myself, I do it for the lawlz). The logic is, if I post a video with that amount of cursing on here, I would get banned. The truth is, in those type of situations, I've never seen someone get banned for an offense of that nature. I've seen mods warn the poster to take it down or just delete the post but I've never seen mods ban people for it (unless they repeatedly did it).

WHY AM I DEFENDING MODS?!?!?!?!?!
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[Prison Mike]

One of the admins should just give an explanation and end the debate.

[Teelie]

Were we even debating first amendment rights? :huh:

I thought it was "They did, why can't we?"

No one is questioning that it's the big boys playground. What they say goes.
But asking 'why' was allowed last time I looked. Honestly, I'm glad this thread was made, because the same question has been floating around, behind the scenes, since the video was posted. It would be nice to have an answer from the person responsible.

And just to point it out: After that video was posted on SHH, I had no less than 4-5 SHH members I know on facebook repost it on their FB walls. Darn good business if you ask me on SHH's part.
Any time any one questions something the site does that members are not allowed to do it inevitably becomes a debate on First Amendment rights. This is a basic tenet of internet society. Just go with it. :D

[Darthphere]

Yes it is. First impressions are important. If someone sees you a certain way, you are irrevocably like that forever in their minds. Unless you get one of those mind wipers from the Men In Black and make them forget.

You probably don't care but....I like you. I'm gonna keep my eye on you.:word:

One of the admins should just give an explanation and end the debate.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one bro.

[Spider-Who?]

I also don't buy the "separate entity" aspect. The forums are part of SuperHeroHype, a website that is constantly referred to as a family-friendly site (in justification of the rules in place). The idea being that kids come to the site. Do the powers that be think that kids don't go to the front page?

Another thing is, what was the point in even posting that video? It is not news worthy in the slightest. It had nothing to do with comic book superheros, nothing to do with any news about upcoming comic book movies. Its not only a contradiction, but its completely irrelevant to the intent of this site.

[twylight]

Any time any one questions something the site does that members are not allowed to do it inevitably becomes a debate on First Amendment rights. This is a basic tenet of internet society. Just go with it. :D

Yeah...




No.


:dry:

[Erzengel]

One of the admins should just give an explanation and end the debate.
I don't think they should bother with all the bots that plague the messageboard.

[Darthphere]

I also don't buy the "separate entity" aspect. The forums are part of SuperHeroHype, a website that is constantly referred to as a family-friendly site (in justification of the rules in place). The idea being that kids come to the site. Do the powers that be think that kids don't go to the front page?

Another thing is, what was the point in even posting that video? It is not news worthy in the slightest. It had nothing to do with comic book superheros, nothing to do with any news about upcoming comic book movies. Its not only a contradiction, but its completely irrelevant to the intent of this site.

I actually think this is a more important question than the first one.

[chaseter]

We get Transformers and Bond news...do you think they care about a Funny or Die video not being relevant to anything on here?

[Teelie]

You probably don't care but....I like you. I'm gonna keep my eye on you.:word:
I do care. Everyone must like me for my self worth to mean anything. If even one person dislikes me, I'm a failure.

That or sometimes I just don't think, or over react or don't see the sarcasm or am too sarcastic myself and it goes over someone's head. Like way over. It's happened before and it will again unless I can get the cannon aim adjusted just right. Last time it hit someone square in the face. Not pretty.

I also don't buy the "separate entity" aspect. The forums are part of SuperHeroHype, a website that is constantly referred to as a family-friendly site (in justification of the rules in place). The idea being that kids come to the site. Do the powers that be think that kids don't go to the front page?

This is a forum which also currently hosts threads on everything from shaving the pubic area, the shutting down of pornographic films from an HIV infection and discussion on violent, graphic movies depicting all sorts of nastiness. Sometimes it's just not possible to completely be one aspect or another.

They have to draw the line somewhere and in this case it's on profanity and actual nudity.

[TheDragonator]

Another thing is, what was the point in even posting that video? It is not news worthy in the slightest. It had nothing to do with comic book superheros, nothing to do with any news about upcoming comic book movies. Its not only a contradiction, but its completely irrelevant to the intent of this site.

*cracks knuckles* I got this one.

-Don Cheadle was in Iron Man 2.

-A Live-Action Direct-To-TV Captain Planet movie is being made for Cartoon Network

-Captain Planet is a superhero. Not a traditional superhero, but a superhero nonetheless.

[twylight]

I actually think this is a more important question than the first one.

Reeeaallllyyy?


Really?

See the post below because I had the same points, and this dude's okay in my book (so far) :cwink:

Lastly, can't the big guys have a -little- fun? Seriously, this is the first hint of 'I am having fun!' from the main page that I've seen in a long time.


*cracks knuckles* I got this one.

-Don Cheadle was in Iron Man 2.

-A Live-Action Direct-To-TV Captain Planet movie is being made for Cartoon Network

-Captain Planet is a superhero. Not a traditional superhero, but a superhero nonetheless.

:up:

[SuperFerret]

Lesson #1 in law school: Freedom of speech only protects you from the government:o.

Who else would you need to be protected from when you're saying what you want? :huh:

[Darthphere]

Reeeaallllyyy?


Really?

See the post below because I had the same points, and this dude's okay in my book (so far) :cwink:

Lastly, can't the big guys have a -little- fun? Seriously, this is the first hint of 'I am having fun!' from the main page that I've seen in a long time.




:up:

Not really because there are literally hundreds of superhero parodies that are posted each day. With and without celebrities who have one point been in a comic book related movie. This pretty much screams of advertising spot.

[Spider-Who?]

*cracks knuckles* I got this one.

-Don Cheadle was in Iron Man 2.

-A Live-Action Direct-To-TV Captain Planet movie is being made for Cartoon Network

-Captain Planet is a superhero. Not a traditional superhero, but a superhero nonetheless.

lol, good point. But still, is it really NEWS worthy? This video isn't about Cheadle's acting in Iron Man, nor is it about the Capt' Planet movie. IMO, there are countless other, more suitable items that don't get put on the front page.

Reeeaallllyyy?

Lastly, can't the big guys have a -little- fun? Seriously, this is the first hint of 'I am having fun!' from the main page that I've seen in a long time.



I agree with this. Personally, I'd like to see more "I'm having fun! stuff", but my question still stands. What makes it ok for the FRONT PAGE, but not in the forums? I think its safe to say that more people of a wider demographic (ie: more kids) visit the front page than dedicated posters use the forums here.

I'm not complaining, nor am I upset at the inclusion of the video, and I certainly don't mean (or even remotely expect) there to be any kind of change, I just don't get the reasons.

[twylight]

This pretty much screams of advertising spot.

It really does, because it's so.. random.

But at least it was funny. :woot: Report it! ....Unless it's funny. :cwink:

[Gotham Knight]

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[Teelie]

I raise you the Joker. http://memedepot.com/uploads/2000/2049_th_Joker_popcorn.gif

[Hobgoblin]

What the video is doing there and how it got there is just as much a WTF to the moderator staff as it is to everyone else. We do see the irony of it being there when we dont allow that kind of language at the Hype. And yes, it is a funny video. Yes, we are working on it being deleted.

[Gotham Knight]

I raise you the Joker http://memedepot.com/uploads/2000/2049_th_Joker_popcorn.gifI'll see your Joker. And raise you Scarlett: http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/scarjo_popcorn.gif

[bullets]

the video isn't all that funny to begin with, it actually makes a live action Captain Planet seem like a bad idea.

[Darthphere]

the video isn't all that funny to begin with, it actually makes a live action Captain Planet seem like a bad idea.

You needed this video to tell you that?:huh:

[bullets]

You needed this video to tell you that?:huh:


I had my doubts but that video emphasized the point ,lol.

[twylight]

I raise you the Joker. http://memedepot.com/uploads/2000/2049_th_Joker_popcorn.gif

"If you don't like that, I've got slides!"

[Aesop Rocks]

Captain Planet! He's our hero! Gonna take pollution down to zero!

[LOBO3315a]

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[SsM]

Is this the new gif thread? :D

[C. Lee]

my question still stands. What makes it ok for the FRONT PAGE, but not in the forums? I think its safe to say that more people of a wider demographic (ie: more kids) visit the front page than dedicated posters use the forums here.

I'm not complaining, nor am I upset at the inclusion of the video, and I certainly don't mean (or even remotely expect) there to be any kind of change, I just don't get the reasons.

I don't get the reasons either.

When I found out about this yesterday, I contacted Mirko about it and started a thread in the wash for us to discuss it with the intent to get it removed. I feel it sets a bad precedent and image for the site and the forums.

[Colossal Spoons]

Who else would you need to be protected from when you're saying what you want? :huh:

An angry church, a big unruly mob, toughguys at the bar, etc.

[Spider-Nerd]

I need to see this captain planet video to actually see what all this nonsense is all about.

[Spider-Nerd]

Ahahaha the video was actually somewhat enjoyable but I'd say it certainly wasn't even that bad until the final 2 obscenities were uttered. The Kwame and Linka was pretty good :up:

[Darthphere]

I'm more offended by the fact most people think it's funny.

[Spider-Nerd]

I'm more offended by the fact most people think it's funny.

Honestly, you have every right to be.

[Darthphere]

I'm offended that the mods agree with us. What the hell is this?

[SuperFerret]

An angry church, a big unruly mob, toughguys at the bar, etc.

Those don't count because they have no power.

[Darthphere]

Those don't count because they have no power.

An angry church has the power of GOD!!!

[LOBO3315a]

Toughguys have the power of a baseball bat. That's a pretty good power. And we all know what an unruly mob can do, right England?

[SuperFerret]

Eh, I'm only really bound by the fact that there's jail to respect the power of a government. I can run/talk/fight my way out of those issues if need be.

[TheDragonator]

I don't get the reasons either.

When I found out about this yesterday, I contacted Mirko about it and started a thread in the wash for us to discuss it with the intent to get it removed. I feel it sets a bad precedent and image for the site and the forums.

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[POWdER-man]

The Washroom in the mod forum.

[C. Lee]

http://i.imgur.com/3ukEy.gif

The "washroom" is where the moderators talk about things concerning the forums and posters.

[Kane52630]

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[LOBO3315a]

There's a whole different level, we mere posters are unaware of.

[Prison Mike]

There's a whole different level, we mere posters are unaware of.

It's their Asgard to our Midgard

[Darthphere]

The "washroom" is where the moderators talk about things concerning the forums and posters.

Translation: It's where all "those" gifs go.

It's their Asgard to our Midgard

There you go talking up mods as Gods again.

[Prison Mike]

Translation: It's where all "those" gifs go.



There you go talking up mods as Gods again.

It was a joke :oldrazz:

[Erzengel]

Translation: It's where all "those" gifs go.



There you go talking up mods as Gods again.
And talk about posters, in a way that it was done on the regular forums it'd be infraction/ban worthy. But, it's okay because they need to blow off steam.

[Colossal Spoons]

There you go talking up mods as Gods again.

Broxton Oklahoma really isn't putting them on a pedestal :o

[Aesop Rocks]

So guys, I found a dead horse on the side of the road up by my uncles farm.

Anyone wanna go get some sticks and beat it?

I mean, since we're all so well at beating a dead horse and all.

[Teelie]

I'll go get my horse-beating stick!

[Pink Ranger]

There you go talking up mods as Gods again.

Hey, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!!!!

[Motown Marvel]

What the video is doing there and how it got there is just as much a WTF to the moderator staff as it is to everyone else. We do see the irony of it being there when we dont allow that kind of language at the Hype. And yes, it is a funny video. Yes, we are working on it being deleted.

how about we let the video stay and instead take it easy on the over the top censorship.

:woot:

[SuperSoldier985]

Yeah, it's classic SHH hypocrisy and arbitrary regulations reigning free.

[Aesop Rocks]

You joined in April of 2011, what do you know about SHH hypocrisy?

[Shemtov]

Yeah, posting videos with curse words is not a bannable offence. At most, you may get an infraction. I believe that if you get a certain amount of infractions then you are automatically banned.
Yup....I once posted a vid with curse words and I got off with a light chiding......of course there were mitigating factors, but.....

[Darthphere]

You joined in April of 2011, what do you know about SHH hypocrisy?

EVERYTHING!

:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

[Hobgoblin]

how about we let the video stay and instead take it easy on the over the top censorship.

:woot:

Ok, no prob.....wait a minute!....

[twylight]

So close! :argh:

[JJJ's Ulcer]

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The Power is YOUR'S!!!

[Motown Marvel]

Ok, no prob.....wait a minute!....

son of a *****!!!

[Lunar_Wolf]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on a second! The hype has a home page?

[Hobgoblin]

son of a *****!!!


Waah waah waah waaaaaaaahhh....

[Superhero Hype!]

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Before I reply, I have to repost this as it just made me laugh really hard while reading this thread.

[Superhero Hype!]

You can control content you already know, it's a lot harder to control content you don't. The front page knows what the video contains and knowing that, provided a disclaimer. There's no way the administration team on this site knows what 25,000+ people registered here are going to post, hence why they need to control/censor things here...Whether you think it's hypocritical or not is up to you but at the end of the day, there is a difference between the front page and the boards.

Darthphere said it best in my opinion. This is the same issue we have with comments on the main page. We just have no control over what goes up initially on the forums and in the comments. Sure, a moderator can jump in a few minutes later or maybe doesn't notice for 30 minutes... what if it was longer? We have complete control over what content is posted in news items but not over what is posted by thousands and thousands of people when they first do so. That's why we have to have rules in place. I'm sorry if you don't agree with that or think we're trying to take away your free speech, but just imagine if this board had no rules.

[JJJ's Ulcer]

just imagine if this board had no rules.

I'm trying to imagine, but the sheer awesomeness is making my head explode. :awesome:

[Motown Marvel]

well you controlled the content of the video by putting up a warning saying there may be offensive language. you can put the same warning on the front page of the forums. and im not suggesting we go censor free. but some things have gotten out of hand. hell, one time i was infracted for making a joke that used the word "condom".

[Ponyboy]

hell, one time i was infracted for making a joke that used the word "condom".

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[Paroxysm]

What?!?! Does the Catholic church run this place?

[Kahoot]

Yup....I once posted a vid with curse words and I got off with a light chiding......of course there were mitigating factors, but.....I once helped out someone who didn't know how the [yt] tags worked but becuase their video was full was curse words I got an infraction. Of course it was my fault, I shouldn't be a good samaritan but that is just the way I was raised.

Darthphere said it best in my opinion. This is the same issue we have with comments on the main page. We just have no control over what goes up initially on the forums and in the comments. Sure, a moderator can jump in a few minutes later or maybe doesn't notice for 30 minutes... what if it was longer? We have complete control over what content is posted in news items but not over what is posted by thousands and thousands of people when they first do so. That's why we have to have rules in place. I'm sorry if you don't agree with that or think we're trying to take away your free speech, but just imagine if this board had no rules.
But even if we put up a disclaimer we still get in trouble. :huh:

[Metamorpho1977]

I've seen some abuse of power on the boards with other hypesters in the past. But I'm surprised this thread is still going on over such a minor occurrence.

[Darthphere]

well you controlled the content of the video by putting up a warning saying there may be offensive language. you can put the same warning on the front page of the forums. and im not suggesting we go censor free. but some things have gotten out of hand. hell, one time i was infracted for making a joke that used the word "condom".

Honestly, get over it. You can't use dem cuss words, big deal. There are bigger problems on this site IMHO other than "I feel censored because I can't say ****."

Everyone has an example of mod abuse that is usually exaggerated. I'm not saying mod abuse doesn't happen but most of the time it's a case of the poster catching feelings because they got in trouble.

[Darthphere]

I once helped out someone who didn't know how the [yt] tags worked but becuase their video was full was curse words I got an infraction. Of course it was my fault, I shouldn't be a good samaritan but that is just the way I was raised.


But even if we put up a disclaimer we still get in trouble. :huh:

Because you're nobody. You're poster #98765342 Kahoot. You have no power. If you put a disclaimer before posting a naughty video, you're still posting a naughty video that is against the rules. Even worse, you know it's against the rules because you posted a disclaimer.

Crap like this is why no real progress will ever be made to better the Hype because people are stuck on their feelings and the inability to say curse words.

[Kahoot]

Because you're nobody. You're poster #98765342 Kahoot. You have no power. If you put a disclaimer before posting a naughty video, you're still posting a naughty video that is against the rules. Even worse, you know it's against the rules because you posted a disclaimer.

Crap like this is why no real progress will ever be made to better the Hype because people are stuck on their feelings and the inability to say curse words.
I was pointing out that it was hypocritical. Iit doesn't matter if we think it is or not, it's a fact that they are being hypocritical.

[Darthphere]

I was pointing out that it was hypocritical. Iit doesn't matter if we think it is or not, it's a fact that they are being hypocritical.

They're really not. It's a control issue. How many threads, posts and forums are on this message board? You think they're following every single one of YOUR posts to make sure you're posting abides by the rules? It's different, you guys know it's different but you guys wants to keep going on with this attitude that the mods are out to get you. Been there, done that. Grow up and get over it.

[C. Lee]

Most posters don't understand that sometimes there are thousands of posts made per day...and they range from :woot: to 25 paragraphs of their college term paper on how the overthrow of the Romanov's led to grunge rock. Not everything can be read by the mods in a timely manner, and sometimes they are just missed.

Kahoot is mad because he got an infraction for just helping another poster. Well, he just helped another poster post a video with uncensored cursing in it (and quoted it as well). Thus breaking the rules.

We the mods were as surprised by the Captain Planet video on the front page as you guys were. We the mods have no control whatsoever over what is on the front page. So when everyone says that THE MODS are being hypocritcal or unfair...we can only face palm ourselves and say will these people ever understand the world we live in? We moderate the FORUMS here...not the front page and not other sites around the net.

[Aesop Rocks]

Darthphere, Darthphere, Darthphere, Darthphere rockin' everywhere.

[Darthphere]

Most posters don't understand that sometimes there are thousands of posts made per day...and they range from :woot: to 25 paragraphs of their college term paper on how the overthrow of the Romanov's led to grunge rock. Not everything can be read by the mods in a timely manner, and sometimes they are just missed.

Kahoot is mad because he got an infraction for just helping another poster. Well, he just helped another poster post a video with uncensored cursing in it (and quoted it as well). Thus breaking the rules.

We the mods were as surprised by the Captain Planet video on the front page as you guys were. We the mods have no control whatsoever over what is on the front page. So when everyone says that THE MODS are being hypocritcal or unfair...we can only face palm ourselves and say will these people ever understand the world we live in? We moderate the FORUMS here...not the front page and not other sites around the net.

LINK. ME. NOW.

Darthphere, Darthphere, Darthphere, Darthphere rockin' everywhere.

It's what I do broseph.

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Everyone has an example of mod abuse that is usually exaggerated. I'm not saying mod abuse doesn't happen but most of the time it's a case of the poster catching feelings because they got in trouble.

Right. Which is something you never complain about. Oh wait, you spent about 8 pages in the Hurricane Irene thread complaining about mod abuse. Your whining was so epic it even got the thread locked. Hypocrite. :whatever:

[twylight]

Honestly, get over it. You can't use dem cuss words, big deal. There are bigger problems on this site IMHO other than "I feel censored because I can't say ****."

Everyone has an example of mod abuse that is usually exaggerated. I'm not saying mod abuse doesn't happen but most of the time it's a case of the poster catching feelings because they got in trouble.

Because you're nobody. You're poster #98765342 Kahoot. You have no power. If you put a disclaimer before posting a naughty video, you're still posting a naughty video that is against the rules. Even worse, you know it's against the rules because you posted a disclaimer.

Crap like this is why no real progress will ever be made to better the Hype because people are stuck on their feelings and the inability to say curse words.

:wow:

:up:

Most posters don't understand that sometimes there are thousands of posts made per day...and they range from :woot: to 25 paragraphs of their college term paper on how the overthrow of the Romanov's led to grunge rock. Not everything can be read by the mods in a timely manner, and sometimes they are just missed.

Kahoot is mad because he got an infraction for just helping another poster. Well, he just helped another poster post a video with uncensored cursing in it (and quoted it as well). Thus breaking the rules.

We the mods were as surprised by the Captain Planet video on the front page as you guys were. We the mods have no control whatsoever over what is on the front page. So when everyone says that THE MODS are being hypocritcal or unfair...we can only face palm ourselves and say will these people ever understand the world we live in? We moderate the FORUMS here...not the front page and not other sites around the net.

:up: I don't know why people assumed you guys had any say about the front page. Sounded a bit like a witch hunt to me.

Er, and the Romanov's overthrow totally did! :cmad:

Right. Which is something you never complain about. Oh wait, you spent about 8 pages in the Hurricane Irene thread complaining about mod abuse. Your whining was so epic it even got the thread locked. Hypocrite. :whatever:

I think he means on a 'I got banned/infracted/warned/smacked on the knuckles for this' level. The Hurricane thread is its own beast.

[Darthphere]

Right. Which is something you never complain about. Oh wait, you spent about 8 pages in the Hurricane Irene thread complaining about mod abuse. Your whining was so epic it even got the thread locked. Hypocrite. :whatever:

OOOOOOOH BURN!


The Hurricane Irene thread was ridiculous though and that was a different case altogether. Though I wasn't the reason that thread got locked so nice try there. I even said it in that post you quoted, mod abuse happens (like IMO the Hurricane Irene thread and the Jersey shore pic fiasco that caused it) but MOST of the time, it's exaggerated (like in the Hurricane Irene thread).

:huh:

[Darthphere]

In closing, people are people.

[PWN3R]

I love how Darth never posts, but as soon as a heated argument anywhere on the Hype surfaces, he's on that thread, fast.

Light the Darth signal!

[Lunar_Wolf]

I love that curse words are censored. I like to play a little game of ''What does this censored word mean'', also, censored words are more badass.

[Teelie]

Just invent your own curse words. Something completely nonsensical and yet seemingly offensive.

[Darthphere]

I love how Darth never posts, but as soon as a heated argument anywhere on the Hype surfaces, he's on that thread, fast.

Light the Darth signal!

:up:

"What's that? Users are fighting mods? To the Darthmobile!"

PWN3R, want to be my Robin?:hrt:

[SWAT]

I love that curse words are censored. I like to play a little game of ''What does this censored word mean'', also, censored words are more badass.

I just put in the N word... Makes it sound like a rap song.

[Aesop Rocks]

Darthphere, Darthphere, Darthphere, Darthphere rockin' everywhere.

repostin' so Darth can experience the greatness.

[Darthphere]

Here's the thing before someone else calls me a hypocrite.

Do I exaggerate mod abuse? Guilty. It happens, I've done it. I am human too. I get caught up in the drama and sometimes I go too far.

Do I complain? Yup, sure do. There are things I want to see get better on the Hype but I feel we (I said we) tend to get caught up on trivial things like not being able to use curse words or not being able to post girls in thongs or whatnot.

At the end of the day, if I see something I feel is wrong then I'm going to say so. Now, if you feel that makes me a hypocrite or a whiner, that's your right. I just feel we need to move on from things that are not going to change and stop courting controversy when there is none.

[Aesop Rocks]

Be quiet, my sweets. Embrace my creativity.

[Kahoot]

They're really not. It's a control issue. How many threads, posts and forums are on this message board? You think they're following every single one of YOUR posts to make sure you're posting abides by the rules? It's different, you guys know it's different but you guys wants to keep going on with this attitude that the mods are out to get you. Been there, done that. Grow up and get over it.
Okay you are putting words in my mouth and I don't like it. I simply said we can't post rude videos with a disclaimer or not and that is quite hypocritical. If they can say "We posted this on our front page because we put a disclaimer" then why can't we post videos similar with a disclaimer?Kahoot is mad because he got an infraction for just helping another poster. Well, he just helped another poster post a video with uncensored cursing in it (and quoted it as well). Thus breaking the rules.
Also I'm not really going on about that, I was simply saying/showing how the rules are so randomly upheld. He got a warning for posting a video I got an infraction for helping someone out when they openly admited they were at fault.

[Paroxysm]

lol, at the brown nosing going on in this thread.

[Aesop Rocks]

lol @ Paroxysm lol'ing

[Paroxysm]

Zuck You!

[Aesop Rocks]

True Life: I'm a Hype Mod.

[Darthphere]

lol, at the brown nosing going on in this thread.

I KNOW RIGHT!

:awesome:

[Darthphere]

True Life: I'm a Hype Mod.

I'm actually Morg.

[Aesop Rocks]

I'm a wizard, Harry!

[Paroxysm]

I KNOW RIGHT!

:awesome:


:awesome:....wipe your nose.

[twylight]

I'm actually Morg.

... but... I wanted your babies.

[Darthphere]

:awesome:....wipe your nose.

Shut your mouth, your breath stinks.

[Hobgoblin]

... but... I wanted your babies.

You can have mine! :awesome:

[Darthphere]

... but... I wanted your babies.

Shhhhh! You know the truth and look at your belly. You're welcome.

[twylight]

You can have mine! :awesome:

I think we've all read Sins Past enough to know what Goblin children end up like. :csad:

Shhhhh! You know the truth and look at your belly. You're welcome.

:atp:

They're more imaginary than Wanda's. :awesome:

[Hobgoblin]

I think we've all read Sins Past enough to know what Goblin children end up like. :csad:



:atp:

They're more imaginary than Wanda's. :awesome:

Ah ha! But having two parents exposed to Goblin formula negates the aging effects!

So....how do you feel about a night of exposure to a dangerous chemical bath, giving you super strength, intelligence, durability and insanity followed by some red hot Goblin love?
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq188/mrdamntn/Funny/Craigroseinteeth1.jpg

[SWAT]

This thread took a wierd turn... Somewhere.

[twylight]

Ah ha! But having two parents exposed to Goblin formula negates the aging effects!

So....how do you feel about a night of exposure to a dangerous chemical bath, giving you super strength, intelligence, durability and insanity followed by some red hot Goblin love?
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq188/mrdamntn/Funny/Craigroseinteeth1.jpg

Sounds like a real, romantic evening http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/twylight/stuff/DD-Flirty.gif

[Aesop Rocks]

Wait, Hobgoblin, is that you?

Please, stop seducing me!

[Hobgoblin]

Wait, Hobgoblin, is that you?

Please, stop seducing me!

Well, since Twilight isnt going for it...how you doin....?
http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq188/mrdamntn/Funny/Craigroseinteeth1.jpg

[twylight]

I gave you the http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/twylight/stuff/DD-Flirty.gif smile!


:csad: Oh wells.

[SuperFerret]

He's biting the fastidious outta that flower, and that smile says that he truly believes that his stromboli don't stink.

Making up curses is fun!

[Superman 1265]

*Enters thread, reads comments and runs out*

[Hobgoblin]

I gave you the http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/twylight/stuff/DD-Flirty.gif smile!


:csad: Oh wells.

I thought that was a skeptical, arms folded smiley.

Aw, even my fake romances dont last past the first date. :csad:

[Shemtov]

I love that curse words are censored. I like to play a little game of ''What does this censored word mean'', also, censored words are more badass.
That reminds me of a thread which was "why can't we say ******". Now, of course no other poster except the OP knew what the word was. So somebody asked him for a rhyme, and the first letter. He said the only word it rhymed with was a curse word itself. So I said Which curse word? just say the F word, C bomb, N word etc., and the first letter. He refused even to even do that, but we managed to get him to admit the first letter was 'w'. By process of elimination, we discovered the rhyme was the N word.

Edit: here's the thread:http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=315577
Also, the word "Shi-ite" is censored if you spell it with a ' where my
'-' is. :dry:

[Lunar_Wolf]

That reminds me of a thread which was "why can't we say ******". Now, of course no other poster except the OP knew what the word was. So somebody asked him for a rhyme, and the first letter. He said the only word it rhymed with was a curse word itself. So I said Which curse word? just say the F word, C bomb, N word etc., and the first letter. He refused even to even do that, but we managed to get him to admit the first letter was 'w'. By process of elimination, we discovered the rhyme was the N word.

Edit: here's the thread:http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=315577
Also, the word "Shi-ite" is censored if you spell it with a ' where my
'-' is. :dry:

what the heck is a dew flap?

This post made me laugh:awesome:

[twylight]

The funniest is when they censored LSP and that was around the time when Transformers was out and no one could say the allspark. LOL

:up: Good times.

[TheDreamMaster]

:up: Good times.
If it is not too bad, can someone tell me why LSP was censored?

[SuperFerret]

Petty bovine excrement.