View Full Version : Making the perfect Spidey suit
jawatrader
01-12-2005, 09:37 PM
Hey TBX,
Look...I will be more than happy to let things go and start over. I noticed that you have been acting more civil towards the members of the board and thats great. I only ask that if you make claims about what you have done/created, post some pics so we dont all think you are full of it. If you can back up your claims, you will have my respect.
jawatrader
01-12-2005, 09:41 PM
Jawatrader,
Just got the patterns. Awesome!!! Very fast shipping too! I like the way you did the cd's--very professional. Just curious, what type of printer did you use for the cds? Already worth every penny just from the artwork on the cds. Excellent job on the patterns too. Thanks for working with me.
herbpinpin.home.comcast.net
Tracy Spider
Hi,
Im glad you like them. I tried to go a different route than the other people selling the patterns and make it into a nice package for a good price. I use an Epson R300 to print the discs. Also, in order to get the metalic look I use a very high quality Silver/Silver pro-disc CD-r to print the image on. Costs more than the regular CD-r's , but I just like the look much better and I have yet to have a problem burning to the disc's. Very reliable. Thanks for the kind words. Good luck with your suit.
jawatrader
01-12-2005, 09:43 PM
Hey Spiderman5...great work so far on the patterns. I know its not easy, but you make it look like it is.
jawatrader
01-12-2005, 09:56 PM
oops...just want to clarify my statement to Tracy Spider. I did not mean that the patterns sold by other members of the board arent good or not worth the money. I meant that I tried to make a nice package by including 3 different versions of the suit(original,original color corrected,colors combined) on 3 custom printed cd's with Spidey pics and text. just wanted to clear that up before someone misunderstood and got offended.
hanielroswell
01-12-2005, 11:38 PM
Reveal,
Just my opinion but that suit looks nothing like B&B's suit. I'm willing to bet it is one of purplegoblin182's. From the pics ive seen that is how his neck's look. Frankly I don't even think you can compare the two.
actually, it is an B&B original. i can tell from the pattern and the webbing that it is custom made and not an original dye sub. although i must that the the webbing were poorly assemble.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-12-2005, 11:39 PM
From what I understand they are used for establishing the brick pattern color & size. Usually when you produce a pattern in some kind of an art package you need a swatch to be your default template to create the effect you want.
oic.. thanks for the insight Ben. appreciated.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-12-2005, 11:45 PM
It looks like one of ours. Last year we put out approximately 5 'kits' where they assembled the suit themselves. If this guy did, something definitely went wrong.
clearly you can tell where this guy went wrong when assemble this suit. that the difference between a well assemble suit and a mess up suit. bobby is the best example of how a little patient and perseverance can result into.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-12-2005, 11:50 PM
I remember that this same guy has been trying to sell this costume few times before, using the same pics... i'm not sure if it was b&b's, but if you look at the muscle shading of the costume you see that it is nothing like purps shading...purp had all the bricks the same size.
Does anyone recognize this suit we're talking about?
good eye reveal,
purp suit are no where near the quality of a B&B creation. that is in fact a B&B original. i usually identify it by looking at the frontal design of the suit. it is a unique asspect of Ben design. you can also tell it's a B&B original by the webbing.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-13-2005, 12:00 AM
Thanks a lot haniel. Here is a pic of my new housemate. Think this will work??
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/tsjahh-mannequin.JPG
Is is not made of glass, btw. just plastic or something.
Spiderkes
should do. but it's ideal to use a manni with the same body configuration as yours so the stretch porportion is equal when you wore it. if you have a relatively larger body frame then the manni, then the stretch would not be the same and you would have place some minor stretch resistance to the webbing. the key here is to put less stress on the webbing as possible.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-13-2005, 12:07 AM
That suit is the ugliest I have ever seen. If I had it, I would just rip off the webbing and use it for another.
i have to argue with you on that. i admit, it's not the best work. but comparably, it is still a decent looking suit. i've seen worse then this. ths is after all a B&B original. it can't be all that bad. i can see a lot of potential in that suit and with a little time and correction, could really give that suit run for it's money. if you look at Bobby c suit, it is the same thing. the difference id how it is put together. bobby is a little more commited to perfection thenwhom ever put this suit together. if you place that suit in the hand of some one say me or Tim, or any of the other dedicated fan here, it would be a different. wouldn't you agree.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-13-2005, 12:10 AM
what prick pays 650 for that?? Kept private... Maybe he bid himself?
i dun know about that, i wouldn't mind paying 650 for a costume if he throw in that flashy ferrari modena 360 he sitting on. won't that be a bargin;)
haniel roswell
reveal
01-13-2005, 04:11 AM
It looks like one of ours. Last year we put out approximately 5 'kits' where they assembled the suit themselves. If this guy did, something definitely went wrong. I think he just dressed it on funny...you can see from the pics that the mask is dressed up so that the neck area is twisted to left. thats why it looks bad.
if i remember right, this is the same costume that b&b sold last summer and few of the webs were broke above the back spider...back then it looked just fine.
The guy who has it now is just a little bit too skinny and wears it so that it gets twisted on the head.
And Haniel: I do think that i have sharp eye in these things, just like you :D
Who would like to help me make a spiderman suit pattern? I'm pretty much done, I just have to UP the resolution and make the brick pattern more accurate by using the liquify tool. And despite all the doubt that everyone had, it didn't take that long at all to get where I am.
I would like to scale this properly, someone told me that the biggest part, that includes the front of the mask, the chest, the torso sides and the legs, minus the boots, was 52" high. Well I took the web design and got a CNC to cut a quick outline and it was way too small. So far, I've scaled it to 72". Can someone confirm this to be the real size?
First: Iīm not Ryan!
Second: When you are 6 feet from head to the upper area of the calfs, then your scale is right. And when you take your measurements around 15% smaller so that the spandex has to stretch a bit, your overall height surely has to be 8 feet for this scale. So unless you are the tallest person in the world, stay with the 52" for a 5"8 height (or letīs say 5% more when you are 6 feet) I told you.
Ollie
hanielroswell
01-13-2005, 05:13 AM
there you TBX, straight from the horses mouth. ryan and ollie are two different person. i hope this satisfied you.
haniel roswell
joemillions
01-13-2005, 01:35 PM
Hey was just wondering has been successfull with applying sculpted webs to a Margarate waite costume?
Spiderkes
01-13-2005, 03:25 PM
How much effort is it to attach the eyes to a suit? Same as the webbing, just with superglue? Or are there seperate ways? Also with the eye on comfort.
Tracy Spider
01-13-2005, 03:38 PM
Hey was just wondering has been successfull with applying sculpted webs to a Margarate waite costume?
I don't know about sculpted webs, but I know with tulip paint you can. I have done it with the COSPA costume and it made a big difference. Check it out at herbpinpin.home.comcast.net I have one picture of it. I can send you more close up pics by email if you want. Only the photos section works on the site.
Tracy Spider
Tracy Spider
01-13-2005, 03:44 PM
How much effort is it to attach the eyes to a suit? Same as the webbing, just with superglue? Or are there seperate ways? Also with the eye on comfort.
I'm no expert, but superglue or DEVCON glue has worked for me. I place my eyes on while it on a mannequin head. Don't know about the webbing though, I've only used tulip paint. For comfort, unless you are using polycarbonate lenses that have a natural curve then there's no need, but "foamies" behind the lenses works best for me. No eye discomfort at all.
Tracy Spider
joemillions
01-13-2005, 03:51 PM
I don't know about sculpted webs, but I know with tulip paint you can. I have done it with the COSPA costume and it made a big difference. Check it out at herbpinpin.home.comcast.net (http://herbpinpin.home.comcast.net/) I have one picture of it. I can send you more close up pics by email if you want. Only the photos section works on the site.
Tracy Spider
Great costume. I wished i thought of that!
tbx_moto
01-13-2005, 05:42 PM
Second: When you are 6 feet from head to the upper area of the calfs, then your scale is right. And when you take your measurements around 15% smaller so that the spandex has to stretch a bit, your overall height surely has to be 8 feet for this scale. So unless you are the tallest person in the world, stay with the 52" for a 5"8 height (or letīs say 5% more when you are 6 feet) I told you.
Ollie
Is 52" for a 5'8" person?
If this is true than that means the pattern has to be 76.5% of someones true height. This also means that a 6'0" persons pattern would be 55.08".
Can anyone back this formula up?
Also, for the webs, do I have to scale the webs 1:1? Or is there some crazy way to do it?
patfromuk
01-14-2005, 07:29 AM
Has anyone here ever thought of using the 'blockbuster lifesize figure' costume as a wearable costume ?
The reason I ask is, I have the lifesize figure on ebay at the moment and have had an enquiry as to whether or not this would be possible ( he only wants to buy the costume ) I can see how it was put on the body (zippers down the side of the torso and inside leg ) but I cannot seem to be able to free the zippers !
the costume appears to be in 3 parts- top, bottom and mask , then the rubber webbing was placed on top. I told the guy that I would be willing to try and remove the costume but I really dont want to damage it.
any thoughts or help on this would be really appreciated.
thanks pat.
spidyfan43
01-14-2005, 12:38 PM
Pat, your selling you lifesize already. I talk to a guy about that he tried it and the webs broke. And you have to replace the eyes.
joemillions
01-14-2005, 02:41 PM
Try cutting it then sewing it back up.
webslinger922
01-14-2005, 03:45 PM
LOts of luck, I saw one at blockbuster on display and some of the webbing was coming off and it wasn't on display for very long. I don't know if they let loose on their own, or if somewbody picked at it. It was close enough that you could touch it.
Ericza1980
01-14-2005, 07:19 PM
sup guys...i need som advice...how long should i make the length hilighted on he pic. I've sewn together like two of these, and everytime i try it on i feel the red streches out too long.
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/ericza-ex1.JPG
It is my understanding that the webbing was simply "tack glued" onto the Blockbuster figure.
Nick Fox
SpiderManYetter
01-15-2005, 12:40 AM
sup guys...i need som advice...how long should i make the length hilighted on he pic. I've sewn together like two of these, and everytime i try it on i feel the red streches out too long.
Approximately 5"
joemillions
01-15-2005, 03:21 AM
sup guys...i need som advice...how long should i make the length hilighted on he pic. I've sewn together like two of these, and everytime i try it on i feel the red streches out too long.
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/ericza-ex1.JPG
Thats a beautiful costume.
Germanspider
01-15-2005, 03:57 AM
Thats a beautiful costume.
Thatīs the movie suit... :)
tbx_moto
01-15-2005, 09:44 AM
can someone compare this with their pattern and tell me if these pieces are scaled. Because it's come to my attention while working on webs with spiderman5, that while comparing our two patterns that if you scale one thing on my pattern to another thing on his making one thing the same size, that other things are scaled way differently.
Does anyone kind of get what I'm saying?
Here's mine, compare it to yours and get back to me.
http://24.77.46.187/spiderman/possibly_incorrect_size.jpg
CrossroadSpider
01-15-2005, 10:13 AM
Hey guys,
I've decided to start my costume by sculpting the lens frames because I haven't yet been able to purchase the suit pattern. My problem is, without the web reference lines on the mask to work from, I'm not sure of the dimensions. Does anyone have information on the length and width of the frames they can help me with?
Thanks.
spiderman5
01-15-2005, 11:13 AM
Hey Ben, I got my white film the other day. You were right def. will not work, but it would be beautifull for a statue. Im going to work on a few Ideas I have and ill keep you guys posted to what I can find.
SpiderManYetter
01-15-2005, 11:38 AM
Hey Ben, I got my white film the other day. You were right def. will not work, but it would be beautifull for a statue. Im going to work on a few Ideas I have and ill keep you guys posted to what I can find.
Yeah that's what I figured. Good Luck on the search.
Ericza1980
01-15-2005, 01:06 PM
Approximately 5"
Thanks man.
CrossroadSpider
01-15-2005, 01:09 PM
Nick,
How did those lenses turn out?
I think what I have decided to do for my suit lenses is to use the white luminosity tint I gave the link for a few posts back, with a silver reflective tint underneath... that way from the front it will be silver, but will shift to white as you go around the costume. I thought it was a cool idea at least.
Nick Fox
Nick,
How did those lenses turn out?
I have not yet had a chance to start any lense work, seeing as though I am still fine tuning the patterns (color correction and brick pattern filling (I hope)). But When I get that far I will keep everyone informed.
Nick Fox
can someone compare this with their pattern and tell me if these pieces are scaled. Because it's come to my attention while working on webs with spiderman5, that while comparing our two patterns that if you scale one thing on my pattern to another thing on his making one thing the same size, that other things are scaled way differently.
Does anyone kind of get what I'm saying?
Here's mine, compare it to yours and get back to me.
http://24.77.46.187/spiderman/possibly_incorrect_size.jpg
It seems that you have two too many of the pieces that go on the side of the head. It looks to be scaled correctly...but I don't know for sure.
Nick Fox
zns72
01-15-2005, 05:36 PM
I am new to this board but have been following the posts closely for a while on this thread. Some of the work I have seen here is excellent. I just recently won an auction on ebay for a Spiderman 2 pattern and am in the process of coloring the images in Photoshop CS. While some of the patterns are obvious on where they go, I am unsure as to where all off them belong on the costume. Has anyone just listed the different pattern parts over the top of the above image in the previous post.
spiderman5
01-15-2005, 05:45 PM
Hey I think this was a pic posted by one of the members here, Xeno. I hope it helps.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Xeno1.jpg
jawatrader
01-15-2005, 06:42 PM
Hey Spiderman5, hows the brick work going? I can imagine that it must be one big pain in the a__.
jawatrader
01-15-2005, 07:10 PM
Anyone out there know what software was used to design the original Spiderman 2 patterns? They make reference to it in the books, etc, but never tell you what they used. I know they used Alias Maya for the actual animation, but cant find out what they used for the costume design. Please help.
zns72
01-15-2005, 08:24 PM
Thanks, Spiderman5. That helps me greatly.
I just did a rough test (after abandoning all of the previous work I have done) of my color correction on the scans in the last 10 minutes. I took low quality copies of the scans and color corrected those. Tell me what you think of this section (note the alignment is off a bit).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/FoxyMcFox/testcolorstogether.jpg
I still think I can do a little better on both of the colors, but I want feedback so I know how they should be changed.
Nick Fox
Edit: For some reason the blue looks a lot brighter than I made it...it is not THAT blue.
spiderman5
01-15-2005, 09:51 PM
Hey Eric, its coming along great. Its really tedious. I finished a few peices, have a few more.
spiderman5
01-15-2005, 10:08 PM
Hey Nfox looking good. Work on the blue alittle, and youll be set.
tbx_moto
01-16-2005, 02:23 AM
hey, i was wondering if anyone could compare their pattern to mine and tell me if they think the red, ON THE CHEST, seems a little off. Here's my pattern.
http://24.77.46.187/spiderman/mypattern/redchestproblem.jpg
hanielroswell
01-16-2005, 05:46 AM
trust me, it's off. my reference tell me that you need to work more on the red and slightly more on the blue. it look too comical. excuse my repeat use of the word "comical" no other word that i an think of to desribe it.
haniel roswell
joemillions
01-16-2005, 08:47 AM
trust me, it's off. my reference tell me that you need to work more on the red and slightly more on the blue. it look too comical. excuse my repeat use of the word "comical" no other word that i an think of to desribe it.
haniel roswell
What's your refrence Han?
joemillions
01-16-2005, 08:50 AM
oh are you going by the mask you bought?
jawatrader
01-16-2005, 08:56 AM
oh are you going by the mask you bought?
He never got the mask. They were trying to pull a scam on him or something.
joemillions
01-16-2005, 09:16 AM
Are you sure. i remember seeing they had a feedback of over 1000.
spiderman5
01-16-2005, 09:28 AM
hey tbx, isnt that my example pattern?
jawatrader
01-16-2005, 09:41 AM
Hey TBX,
Those sure look alot like Spiderman5's patterns you first posted and my patterns with the alignment marks on your second posting. As a matter of fact, your pic is exactly the same size as the jpeg I put on Ebay selling my patterns. Kind of odd dont you think?
tbx_moto
01-16-2005, 10:46 AM
if you look at the edges, you can see the canvas border from photoshop because I did a printcreen and i was zoomed out to 12.5% i doubt you have the canvas border on the edge of your pics jawatrader, and no spiderman5, they're not yours, I took reference pics all the way from page one and averaged the colors out and it just seems that way. And jawatrader, tell me the exact dimensions of your pic, because you're wrong.
Anyways, brighter, darker, more contrast, less, what about gamma or color saturation? Someone please tell me, or better yet, give me a low res scaled, printscreen of your patterns so i can get the color right.
spidyfan43
01-16-2005, 01:16 PM
Every one is changing the color of the pattern but isn't that the original colors on the pattern I sent to spiderman5. The guy that sold it to me says it is the exact color of the movie costume.
tbx_moto
01-16-2005, 02:10 PM
Is it not possible that I just happen to know something about photoshop and made them that color, purposely?
spiderman5
01-16-2005, 04:43 PM
spidyfan43, the colors of the tk comics scans are WAY off.
joemillions
01-16-2005, 06:18 PM
OVDH can you please answer my messages.
tbx_moto
01-16-2005, 06:50 PM
Same here, OVDH
jawatrader
01-16-2005, 07:14 PM
Are you sure. i remember seeing they had a feedback of over 1000.
Check back a few pages and you will see that someone else already brought this up. If I remember right, the seller had already left feedback for the original winner. Why would he do that if the original winner had backed out and the seller agreed to sell them to hanielroswell? Something was a little fishy.
hanielroswell
01-17-2005, 01:05 AM
What's your refrence Han?
trust me i have my reference. and it is by far the most accurate reference to date. and that the only reason why i am able to comment on it. and no it is not base on the mask which by the way is another story in it's self.
the reference are base on a very reliable source. comparably with some of the effort that i've seen thus far, it's not even close. i am not de bunking every one else here for their to match the color to the movie suit. i think people like spiderman 5 and jawatrader etc did an execellent job. how i wish i have their skill.
as many of you know that Xeno were probably the first one ever to start the original spiderman 2 costume pattern rave on the hype. and having spoken with him early on, we agree that the colour would be the main issue which we need to dealt with. this led me to gather all type of souce and reference pic etc... i talk to geniusus in the feild of computer artistry both local and international. i even go as far as contacting SONY with the hope that they might be able to sell me a copy of the original format use to create the suit. you could image my dissappointment.
i even talk to rayn about it. but he told me that SONY own all copy right and the original art work use for the movie. like i didn't know that already.
the point i'm trying to make is, when it come to colour issue, noboby did more research then me. nobody mde more call. nobody made more effort to try to get the colour to match the movie version.
there is ol saying, no hard work ever goes unrewarded. so it was a blessing when i finally able to track down the one person who is the answer to my prayer. and i'm so grateful that he bring me into his project and allow me to have a piece of the pie sort of speak.
i wish i could shed more light on this, but i am obligated to keep this a hush hush project. as many of you might know that marvel is keeping a good eye on this thread and i might be sue if SONY or MARVEL ever get a chance to have a glimps of this.
keep up the good work people.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-17-2005, 01:17 AM
He never got the mask. They were trying to pull a scam on him or something.
sad but true.
apparently i've try to contact the seller regarding an interesting fact that webswinger brought up regarding the seller leaving positive feed back to the winner of the mask.
i've email the seller a few weeks ago and thus far he have not reply back to me. another thing which is ironic is that he wanted me to send my payment to a UK address. i thought the seller were from the states?
i ask him where he obtain these so call original item from. and his response were that he bought from a very wealthy man who goes by the name of Anthony. no last name. just anthony.
i can't really determine just yet the authenticy of the seller. like joe said, he got over a 1000 posistive feed back and is after all a power seller. but then that is just a name. can't really prove anything.
i will keep every one posted
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-17-2005, 01:23 AM
Check back a few pages and you will see that someone else already brought this up. If I remember right, the seller had already left feedback for the original winner. Why would he do that if the original winner had backed out and the seller agreed to sell them to hanielroswell? Something was a little fishy.
that is what i am intend to find out for my self. don't mind telling you all how much he is willing to sell the mask for me. his final offer price were 6 k. and that was from an intial 9 k investment. that was one of the thing which arouse my suspicion. that he is so willingly to offer it at below the avergare price. so that kinda got me thinking. if he is able to offer it to be for 6 k. what the change that he wouldn't do the same for other bidder.
haniel roswell
spidyfan43
01-17-2005, 02:34 AM
Hi,
I first received the black/white printouts from TKcomics, but as I was unsatisfied with them he sent me color scans. So I have the same files as many of you.
This is my pattern. The colors are set to be accurate when printed on the fabric, so they might not come out correct when seen on the computer screen.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/OVDH/Pattern.jpg
OllieOVDH, how much would you charge for one of your pattern like this. e-mail me at spidyfan43@aol.com
spidyfan43
01-17-2005, 02:39 AM
trust me i have my reference. and it is by far the most accurate reference to date. and that the only reason why i am able to comment on it. and no it is not base on the mask which by the way is another story in it's self.
the reference are base on a very reliable source. comparably with some of the effort that i've seen thus far, it's not even close. i am not de bunking every one else here for their to match the color to the movie suit. i think people like spiderman 5 and jawatrader etc did an execellent job. how i wish i have their skill.
as many of you know that Xeno were probably the first one ever to start the original spiderman 2 costume pattern rave on the hype. and having spoken with him early on, we agree that the colour would be the main issue which we need to dealt with. this led me to gather all type of souce and reference pic etc... i talk to geniusus in the feild of computer artistry both local and international. i even go as far as contacting SONY with the hope that they might be able to sell me a copy of the original format use to create the suit. you could image my dissappointment.
i even talk to rayn about it. but he told me that SONY own all copy right and the original art work use for the movie. like i didn't know that already.
the point i'm trying to make is, when it come to colour issue, noboby did more research then me. nobody mde more call. nobody made more effort to try to get the colour to match the movie version.
there is ol saying, no hard work ever goes unrewarded. so it was a blessing when i finally able to track down the one person who is the answer to my prayer. and i'm so grateful that he bring me into his project and allow me to have a piece of the pie sort of speak.
i wish i could shed more light on this, but i am obligated to keep this a hush hush project. as many of you might know that marvel is keeping a good eye on this thread and i might be sue if SONY or MARVEL ever get a chance to have a glimps of this.
keep up the good work people.
haniel roswell What is the original colors like.
joemillions
01-17-2005, 03:29 AM
trust me i have my reference. and it is by far the most accurate reference to date. and that the only reason why i am able to comment on it. and no it is not base on the mask which by the way is another story in it's self.
the reference are base on a very reliable source. comparably with some of the effort that i've seen thus far, it's not even close. i am not de bunking every one else here for their to match the color to the movie suit. i think people like spiderman 5 and jawatrader etc did an execellent job. how i wish i have their skill.
as many of you know that Xeno were probably the first one ever to start the original spiderman 2 costume pattern rave on the hype. and having spoken with him early on, we agree that the colour would be the main issue which we need to dealt with. this led me to gather all type of souce and reference pic etc... i talk to geniusus in the feild of computer artistry both local and international. i even go as far as contacting SONY with the hope that they might be able to sell me a copy of the original format use to create the suit. you could image my dissappointment.
i even talk to rayn about it. but he told me that SONY own all copy right and the original art work use for the movie. like i didn't know that already.
the point i'm trying to make is, when it come to colour issue, noboby did more research then me. nobody mde more call. nobody made more effort to try to get the colour to match the movie version.
there is ol saying, no hard work ever goes unrewarded. so it was a blessing when i finally able to track down the one person who is the answer to my prayer. and i'm so grateful that he bring me into his project and allow me to have a piece of the pie sort of speak.
i wish i could shed more light on this, but i am obligated to keep this a hush hush project. as many of you might know that marvel is keeping a good eye on this thread and i might be sue if SONY or MARVEL ever get a chance to have a glimps of this.
keep up the good work people.
haniel roswell
So what is your reference then?
zns72
01-17-2005, 07:29 AM
Like many of you, I am working on this pattern to hopefully make a costume in the future, but I am not 5'9" for which the pattern was intentionally made. I know TBX is trying to scale the pattern to fit him as many of you are also doing. I don't think the lycra will stretch far enough. Actually I know it won't. So I have a couple of questions. Is there a particular type of lycra to use for the costume? In the movie, it looks as if there is a sheen to the costume as if a shiny lycra was used. (Could be just the highlights used in the dye submlimation process.) Will each component of the pattern need to be scaled to fit my body? I am assuming so but didn't know what anyone has found out throught trial and error.
leematthews
01-17-2005, 12:27 PM
Hi zns72,
There seem to be two ways of going about it - get hold of one of the pattern just about everyone has now & pay someone to print it onto white lycra then apply webbing/stitch it together......or....... buy red & blue lycra and stitch it all together - requires slightly more complex sewing and won't have brick / muscle pattern of movie costume.
The first method is more expensive but has the potential to give a costume just like the film, but the 2nd method is much more achievable without anyones help & on a lower budget. (You need a sewing machine capable of doing a stretch stich)
Most lycra is 4-way stretch these days, but varies significantly in its thickness. This also has implications to the amount of stretch.
I'm certainly not an expert but through my costume making it took several attempts before I got the pattern right for my size. I've not gone beyond the computer with the new plan, but it represents a pretty exciting opportunity to make a very high quality costume. You can scale it how you like but with seams and things you can never be sure with any plan until its first fitting and with this sort of costume you want to be very sure of this before you part with significant amount of money to pay for dye sublimation.
This information probably isn't much help, but you never know.
Ps. I think my cat has been kidnapped by Dr. Octopus (he dissappeared over a week ago) - My spidersense must be a bit rusty these days.
Spiderkes
01-17-2005, 01:40 PM
help! where do I keep my money when I'm wearing my suit?? Hidden pocket??
Mexican Spider
01-17-2005, 06:30 PM
congratulations mike perfect costume im liked fantastic costume happy new year men and boys
Spiderkes, I guess you COULD call it a "hidden pocket!" But really I have no clue.
Nick Fox
tbx_moto
01-17-2005, 08:46 PM
Who has a color corrected pattern? Someone give us an example.
hanielroswell
01-18-2005, 05:09 AM
What is the original colors like.
the original colour has a kinda deep pastel look. very rich yet very photonic. it doesn't have the kinda of comical look where the colour tend to be too flat and 2 demention. it's the difference between painting a picture of your pet dog and actually taking a photo of it. although it's the same dog with the same colour and texture, but you can always tell which one is a painting and which one is a photo.
a pixel versus paint brush kinda theory. my reference are base on pixel where it capture every intricate detail of a suit yet maintain a degree of photogenic quality.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-18-2005, 05:33 AM
So what is your reference then?
i wish i could share it with you. but there is just some thing that i have to keep it private and confidntial. no offenense. but i've made an obligation to my source not to reveal these pattern top any one. and of course as i mention the thing with Sony and Marvel watching over the hype. wouldn't want to get into any kinda of legal trouble.
all i can say is that the reference is base on a complete pattern suit. similar to what many of the hype member now own with a slight twist. this reference in my opinion are the most accurate and detail pattern available. period.
haniel roswell
Spiderkes
01-18-2005, 11:06 AM
How is this lycra printing done? Is it printed on white lycra? Or just on the red and blue? If so, is only black printing needed??
Spiderkes
leematthews
01-18-2005, 11:28 AM
Some people have printed a brick pattern onto red/blue lycra, others have used white and printed brick pattern/muscle and blue/ red.
Its all down to personal choice. Using the white lycra takes away the need to sew several complicated seams and makes it easier to put the webbing on (don't have to worry about the seam underneath).
Its all down to personal choice. People have got really good results using both of these methods.
webslinger922
01-18-2005, 11:55 AM
that is what i am intend to find out for my self. don't mind telling you all how much he is willing to sell the mask for me. his final offer price were 6 k. and that was from an intial 9 k investment. that was one of the thing which arouse my suspicion. that he is so willingly to offer it at below the avergare price. so that kinda got me thinking. if he is able to offer it to be for 6 k. what the change that he wouldn't do the same for other bidder.
haniel roswell
Hey Haniel, if the seller offered you a " second chance auction " thru ebay there is an ebay item number that is specific for that offer. If anyone does a search on the description of the item ,or the exact listing of the item, it will not show up. It will only show up with a search for that exact item number. Who knows how many of these second chance offers this guy is putting out? Can you let the board know what the item number is on the second chance offer?
The movie suit was printed on two seperate colors of miliskin. The red was printed on a peachy color and the blue on payne's grey. None of us have yet to do this...the white is just easier.
Nick Fox
Spiderkes
01-18-2005, 03:54 PM
And the consequence of this is that no-one has reached the perfect suit color. Even the best suits we have here are different from the movie. If it isn't the color, it's the way it shines or the contrast or whatever.
tbx_moto
01-18-2005, 08:11 PM
Are mousepad pictures also printed on using dye sublimation? If it's a yes then that answers a couple of my pricing questions.
tbx_moto
01-18-2005, 08:43 PM
I now sell patterns for fitty in US currency.
Mousepads are in fact commonly made through Dye sub.
Nick Fox
spidey4fun
01-18-2005, 11:26 PM
Does anyone have a link to a supplier of Miliskiln. I'd like to contact them to find out the differrence between Matt Polyester LYRCA Sublimation Print Bases which I have and Miliskin.
hanielroswell
01-19-2005, 12:27 AM
Hey Haniel, if the seller offered you a " second chance auction " thru ebay there is an ebay item number that is specific for that offer. If anyone does a search on the description of the item ,or the exact listing of the item, it will not show up. It will only show up with a search for that exact item number. Who knows how many of these second chance offers this guy is putting out? Can you let the board know what the item number is on the second chance offer?
#3859159052, here you go.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-19-2005, 01:04 AM
How is this lycra printing done? Is it printed on white lycra? Or just on the red and blue? If so, is only black printing needed??
Spiderkes
the original movie suit were printed on a colour fabric. peach for red and payne grey for blue. then the whole thing is sewn together. the first movie incooperate white miliskin which are quite thin compare to other lycra type fabric. but it is essential as the suit were to be worn over thich muscle suit. miliskin act like a second skin.
th new dye sublimation call for the pattern to be completely printed on a white lyrca and the pattern has to saturate the lycra, thus showing on both side of the fabric. so that when the fabric is stretch, the pattern would not leak.
haniel roswell
spidyfan43
01-19-2005, 02:51 AM
Haniel, what is the correct pixel size of the pattern when using photoshop.
reveal
01-19-2005, 09:08 AM
tbx...let us see some details of your pattern. I mean some good quality close ups.
tbx_moto
01-19-2005, 04:40 PM
Haniel, what is the correct pixel size of the pattern when using photoshop.
It all depends on the resolution of the document. I have mine at 72 pixels/inch and the document is 64.889" x 70" and the pixel dimensions are 4672 x 5040.
tbx_moto
01-19-2005, 04:41 PM
tbx...let us see some details of your pattern. I mean some good quality close ups.
No, I invented that trick.
reveal
01-19-2005, 04:50 PM
No, I invented that trick.
what?!
Do you really think i want to steal "your pattern"?!?!
Is that what you mean by "that trick"?
reveal
01-19-2005, 04:57 PM
TBX...I just wanted to see that did you really get the pattern scaled up nicely, 'cos you posted that you were selling it for 50$, and i was curious about it...
reveal
01-19-2005, 05:02 PM
It all depends on the resolution of the document. I have mine at 72 pixels/inch and the document is 64.889" x 70" and the pixel dimensions are 4672 x 5040.
you should make it at least 150 pixels/inch...then your pixel dimension grows to 9733 x 10529.
if you print it out on your settings, it doesn't come out fine, you will see the pixels clearly.
I would recommend 300 pixels/inch for a good quality.
Glsmatt-Spider
01-19-2005, 05:25 PM
Hey Spidyfan43 (jamie), I sent you $270, when do you think ill receive my stuff by? Please email me or send me a pm, thanks.
spiderman5
01-19-2005, 05:52 PM
Hey guys. I did a "test" print on my patterns today. It turns out that it is alittle to big for me. Im selling it, to who evers interested. There is nothing wrong with it at all, just alittle big for me. The colors turned out amazing, they will never wash out. The colors are sealed into the fabric so when it stretches it keeps its color. Its a HUGE roll of 4-way stretch lycra, with the pattern printed on it. It would fit some of you taller or bigger guys. Probably someone who is about 5' 11" to maybe about 6' 3", and someone who has a bigger waist. All you have to do is cut it out and sew it up. Im selling it for about $400, and that is no profit at all. It costs $300 to print, and $100 for the roll of lycra. So all im trying to do is re emberse my self for my costs. If you are interested pm me. Here are some pics, if some of them look to bright or dark thats just my picture taking.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture7.jpg
spiderman5
01-19-2005, 05:54 PM
Here are more pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/superman5/Picture12.jpg
webslinger922
01-19-2005, 06:15 PM
Wow, looks really good!!!
tbx_moto
01-19-2005, 06:55 PM
hey spidyfan43 did you add me on msn the other day?
tbx_moto
01-19-2005, 06:58 PM
oh yeah, good pics.
What does the fabric look like on the other side when you flip it over? Can you send a pic?
spiderman5
01-19-2005, 07:54 PM
its white
jawatrader
01-19-2005, 08:21 PM
Hey TBX...I know that you already implied that one of the members here wanted to see a close-up of your patterns in order to use your trick, but I already have several sets of patterns and have no reason to see your patterns except to verify your claims. You are offering to sell your patterns for $50.00. Great. Now lets see if they are worth it. Every other person on this board that has offered patterns for sale has no problem showing actual pics. Why cant you? Here is a little test. Its of no use to anyone except to see the quality of your patterns. Zoom in to 100% on the "back of the head section" just to show the clarity. If you got the real patterns and just color corrected them, it should be fairly clear. If you tried to use low res jpegs that have been posted here and on ebay, it will be obvious. This is your chance to prove your talents. Lets see how you do.
SpidEMC
01-19-2005, 08:35 PM
Very Nice Spidey5 I cant wait to see it all sewn up
Knight Seeker
jawatrader
01-19-2005, 08:37 PM
Nice work Spiderman5. A real nice clean transfer. I hope mine looks as good when I get it printed out.
Orlando Spider
01-19-2005, 10:10 PM
Where can you order Miliskin of that size? quality?
spidyfan43
01-19-2005, 10:56 PM
hey spidyfan43 did you add me on msn the other day?Tbx, no i don't have msn.
hanielroswell
01-20-2005, 01:02 AM
its white
nice job on the print 5, it look's great. but there is still some thing about the colour which doesn't seem right to me. i've notice that this print is an original version of the pattern and not the corrected version. i can't help noticing the brightness of the pattern especially on the chest area. but a good attempt regardless. may eb on your second trial, you could may be darken the pattern on the red and blue so that it wouldn't look so bright wen it come out
honestly speaking, you don't have to sell it. you could very well adjust the entire pattern to fit you. you print the entire pattern as a whole frontal piece. so that mean in order to wear it, you must have the same body configuration and size as the pattern it's self. what i would suggest is seperate the red and blue and then have a tailor measure your body config then sew it slightly smaller. it can be done.
it's like adjusting the size of a suit. a tailor would measure your body confi and then remove some extra piece from the suit to fit you.
that is one reason why i think the movie suit are printed seperately, so there could tailor match the suit to each of th stuntman body config
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-20-2005, 01:31 AM
Hey TBX...I know that you already implied that one of the members here wanted to see a close-up of your patterns in order to use your trick, but I already have several sets of patterns and have no reason to see your patterns except to verify your claims. You are offering to sell your patterns for $50.00. Great. Now lets see if they are worth it. Every other person on this board that has offered patterns for sale has no problem showing actual pics. Why cant you? Here is a little test. Its of no use to anyone except to see the quality of your patterns. Zoom in to 100% on the "back of the head section" just to show the clarity. If you got the real patterns and just color corrected them, it should be fairly clear. If you tried to use low res jpegs that have been posted here and on ebay, it will be obvious. This is your chance to prove your talents. Lets see how you do.
speaking of pattern, if you notice on ebay there is a surge of people selling spiderman costume pattern. there are more people selling pattern then costume. and i must say that it is getting a bit lame. no offense to any one here. cause i kno that some of the auction belong to hype member here.
but i think we should really ease down a little. i mean it's great that we are all given a chance to own an actual costume pattern, but still it would seem like the more we people who own these pattern, the tendency of people selling these pattern over ebay increase, thus reduce the value of the pattern it's self.
over the couse of the month, i've seen auction for the pattern went from more then a 150 down to as low as 35. what does that tell ya? meaning out of 10 people, at least 5 have the pattern.
just thought that i bright it up
peace ya all
haniel roswell
reveal
01-20-2005, 03:38 AM
Hey TBX...I know that you already implied that one of the members here wanted to see a close-up of your patterns in order to use your trick, but I already have several sets of patterns and have no reason to see your patterns except to verify your claims. You are offering to sell your patterns for $50.00. Great. Now lets see if they are worth it. Every other person on this board that has offered patterns for sale has no problem showing actual pics. Why cant you? Here is a little test. Its of no use to anyone except to see the quality of your patterns. Zoom in to 100% on the "back of the head section" just to show the clarity. If you got the real patterns and just color corrected them, it should be fairly clear. If you tried to use low res jpegs that have been posted here and on ebay, it will be obvious. This is your chance to prove your talents. Lets see how you do.
that's what i ment to ask from TBX...i think i asked too nicely.
but when i say i wanna see a good quality closeup, i don't want to see the full pattern.
And thanks for PM jawa :D
spidey4fun
01-20-2005, 03:55 AM
Hey Han, I love your comments, and I appreciate the fact that that you have a SECRET source, but hows about posting a picture. This wont give your SECRET source away and may give us a little better indication of the colors your talking about.
spidey4fun
01-20-2005, 03:59 AM
nice job on the print 5, it look's great. but there is still some thing about the colour which doesn't seem right to me. i've notice that this print is an original version of the pattern and not the corrected version. i can't help noticing the brightness of the pattern especially on the chest area. but a good attempt regardless. may eb on your second trial, you could may be darken the pattern on the red and blue so that it wouldn't look so bright wen it come out
honestly speaking, you don't have to sell it. you could very well adjust the entire pattern to fit you. you print the entire pattern as a whole frontal piece. so that mean in order to wear it, you must have the same body configuration and size as the pattern it's self. what i would suggest is seperate the red and blue and then have a tailor measure your body config then sew it slightly smaller. it can be done.
it's like adjusting the size of a suit. a tailor would measure your body confi and then remove some extra piece from the suit to fit you.
that is one reason why i think the movie suit are printed seperately, so there could tailor match the suit to each of th stuntman body config
haniel roswell
I dont think that will work. If you try take the suit in the pre-printed webbings lines will be in the wrong place and the entire patterning on the suit will seem a little out of place.
spidey4fun
01-20-2005, 04:01 AM
oh yeah, 5, that dye-sub looks absolutely BRILLIANT. It's a shame it is too big for you.
spidey4fun
01-20-2005, 04:04 AM
Where can you order Miliskin of that size? quality?
Yeah, anyone know a good supplier?????
hanielroswell
01-20-2005, 05:22 AM
Hey Han, I love your comments, and I appreciate the fact that that you have a SECRET source, but hows about posting a picture. This wont give your SECRET source away and may give us a little better indication of the colors your talking about.
hey spidey,
thanks for your compliment. regarding my so call secret source, i wish i could share with all of hype member here what i have. but again i am bound by obligation not to post these picture any where. surely you would understand the importance of trust. some day when you entrust some thing of value to someone whom you trust, you would understand and appreciate what i'm doing.
i do not wish to breach my trust with my source as i have a lot of respect for him and i am grateful that he allow me to be part of it.
however, i can asist any one with their own colour correction project by providing advice by any mean nessasary. it's the least i could do and it does not complicate the obligation i had with my source.
understand that i am not selffish. just very commited to my word. when i made a promise, i keep it. bar none.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-20-2005, 05:29 AM
I dont think that will work. If you try take the suit in the pre-printed webbings lines will be in the wrong place and the entire patterning on the suit will seem a little out of place.
true, but not nessasary. it is still possible to adjust the entire suit with out effecting the webbing line. the webbing line are only shown on the red area. just make adjustment on the blue area. such as the oblique and the boot. if you shorter, just seperate the boot from the leg and then re attached it to match your height.
if you worry about web line, you could remove it from the actual pattern as what Bobby&Ben did with their suit. but since B&B suit is a personal creation, the webbing line could be easily remove.
of course, this is base on opinion only. i wouldn't want you to screw everything up by cutting it here and there. but i'm sure if you take the pattern to you local tailor, there might just be able to provide you some advice and see if it really can't be adjust.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-20-2005, 05:45 AM
Yeah, anyone know a good supplier?????
try spandexhouse.com, i'm not sure but i remember some one saying that sony obtain their fabric from there. i've made enquiry a few month back. i wanted to order 8 ft of white moleskin lycra but the only problem is that there dun accept cash and require credit card. there pretty good to deal with and there do give some size discount.
check them out
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-20-2005, 06:06 AM
btw, i would try using a more thicker lycra. miliskin might be a little too thin. try moleskin lycra instead. the pattern printed on it would look nicer and last longer with every wash
haniel roswell
spiderman5
01-20-2005, 07:41 AM
Hey guys, thanks for the kind words. Spidy4fun is right haniel it couldnt work becuase of the webs. This pattern I printed isnt my updated one, its my older one.
Spiderkes
01-20-2005, 11:43 AM
question, why isn't the back spider included in the patterns? Wouldn't this make this peace a lot easier? How is the back spider done in the movie suit? On my poster ye can't see that it's sewn together. Spiderman5 how do you do your back spider??
Spiderkes
bugeyed
01-20-2005, 12:13 PM
Spiderkes,
The back spider is latex on the new suits. In the first movie it was screened on but changed for the new one, i can't remember the reason.
Spiderman5,
The pattern looks great. Mind sharing the name of the co. that printed it and their location?
bugeyed
01-20-2005, 12:16 PM
I will say one thing about printing in sections or one big peice. It may not improve anything by doing it in sections, and may even complicate it for some, but it sure seems that a lot of fabric goes to waste when it's printed in one peice.
reveal
01-20-2005, 03:13 PM
Look what i found
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-07/25/content_1644253.htm
costume looks cool, i wonder what kind of lenses does he got...I mean if he swims, won't they get fogged?
joemillions
01-20-2005, 04:24 PM
OVDH can you check your messages and please get back to me.
Thanks
Hey Joe,
PM sent.
I will have pics of my new webbing this weekend.
Ollie
Mexican Spider
01-20-2005, 05:18 PM
in fantastic men rally fantastic one dream!!!!!
Mexican Spider
01-20-2005, 05:21 PM
fantastic men proces sublimate ? in silk white? very good fantastic to mouch money$$$
Mexican Spider
01-20-2005, 05:45 PM
this is my costume the movie and my girlfrend is spidergirl
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UwAAAK8WsZDC6YZ2r2KSgS6s!qYzP*yVJOfH0JWgGxZ!lwn2C 1GecnqBWWqrtu5jiui7saLjjpwKBzWnxNflD47MMajDcWPfdEJ Vl6*sHoJ9rKk0CXm7ZM*EmWrQPC0Z/DSCN3658.JPG
http://www.expo-tnt.com/foro/forophp/viewtopic.php?t=1580&start=210
blaze269
01-20-2005, 05:50 PM
Hey mex...try again or send me the pic to Blaze269@msn.com and I will host it for you.
Mexican Spider
01-20-2005, 06:09 PM
this is event in mexico t.n.t 8 convencion anime and manga in mexico
http://groups.msn.com/QUEONGOQUIERESCONOSERME/yenlaultimatnt.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1431
http://groups.msn.com/QUEONGOQUIERESCONOSERME/yenlaultimatnt.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1433
http://groups.msn.com/QUEONGOQUIERESCONOSERME/yenlaultimatnt.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1430
http://groups.msn.com/QUEONGOQUIERESCONOSERME/yenlaultimatnt.msnw
this is my suit of the ultraman :up:
spidey4fun
01-20-2005, 06:49 PM
cool suit Mex
jawatrader
01-20-2005, 08:16 PM
Hey TBX...I need to clarify one thing. Please make sure the close-up includes both the red and blue section. Since you havent posted the pic yet, I guess you are in the process of getting it ready for its unveiling. Cant wait to see it. To be honest, I hope its good. If it shows that you are truly talented with photoshop, maybe we can work on fixing the brick section together. The fading out into almost black has always bothered me. Well,show us what you got....
SpidEMC
01-20-2005, 09:11 PM
yeah Mex Spider great costume and one cute honey standing at your side
hanielroswell
01-21-2005, 12:15 AM
this is my costume the movie and my girlfrend is spidergirl
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UwAAAK8WsZDC6YZ2r2KSgS6s!qYzP*yVJOfH0JWgGxZ!lwn2C 1GecnqBWWqrtu5jiui7saLjjpwKBzWnxNflD47MMajDcWPfdEJ Vl6*sHoJ9rKk0CXm7ZM*EmWrQPC0Z/DSCN3658.JPG
http://www.expo-tnt.com/foro/forophp/viewtopic.php?t=1580&start=210
nice looking costume mexicanspider. and your senorita look hot in that costume as well
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-21-2005, 12:21 AM
Hey guys, thanks for the kind words. Spidy4fun is right haniel it couldnt work becuase of the webs. This pattern I printed isnt my updated one, its my older one.
well i only assume that it might work. but as you stated that this is an original version of the pattern which the webbing line is pinted on it. i bet you could easily rework the pattern to your body config if you would have remove the webbing line. well good luck any way selling the pattern. i think it look terrific. you should have no problem selling it.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-21-2005, 12:47 AM
I will say one thing about printing in sections or one big peice. It may not improve anything by doing it in sections, and may even complicate it for some, but it sure seems that a lot of fabric goes to waste when it's printed in one peice.
glad you brought it up,
the original movie suit were printed seperately, red on peach and blue on payne grey. reason being because of the stretch fabric that it was printed on. when the fabric is stretch, the pattern expand and cause the color to leak through. i recieve 2 fabric stripe from my source, one were obttain directly from the movie set. and one were sample of pattern printed on a white stretch fabric.
the sample fabric from the movie have pattern printed on a peach colour fabric so when you stretch it the colour doesn't leak through, thus maintaining the bold and deep colour.
the other sample however, does leak through when the fabric is stretch.
now from what i've heard from spiderman 5, he told us that the pattern were only printed on one side of the fabric. i just wondering if he had come accross this complication with his pattern since he printed the entire pattern on white fabric as a whole piece.
haniel roswell
spidey4fun
01-21-2005, 08:28 AM
Hey Guys, I get lots of enquires from people looking to obtain a completed spidey suit. If you'd like me to direct their enquires your way please send me an email.
www.spidey4fun.000k2.com
spiderman5
01-21-2005, 10:16 AM
hey haniel, no there was no problem with it at all. I printed on one side, and it didnt seep through and when it stretches it doesnt show white or bleed through. It is amazing.
leematthews
01-21-2005, 11:52 AM
Hey spiderman5, that looks fantastic! Shame its the wrong size. If you've got the time and the know how you'll have a far more marketable product if you stitch it all together to create the finished suit - and get a chance to see just how much smaller yours needs to be.
Its nice to see someone actually going ahead and getting it printed. As it stands its probably the most expensive table-cloth I've ever seen ;-)
Good luck with the costume making
spiderman5
01-21-2005, 12:18 PM
Thanks man. Yeah I working on resizing it. I hope to have a better print out in a week or 2.
Ericza1980
01-21-2005, 10:53 PM
Hey guys, on my first suit im doing the blue and red lycra and sewing em together...for that pants how should i sew the crotch area to where if i jump and stretch my lgs out far enough the seam won't break?
Thanks,
Eric
hanielroswell
01-22-2005, 12:43 AM
hey haniel, no there was no problem with it at all. I printed on one side, and it didnt seep through and when it stretches it doesnt show white or bleed through. It is amazing.
well that is a surprise that you came accross this problem. think you could post some picture of it when the fabric is stretch. i would like to see the effect for my self. not that i dun trust you. just that i am intrique by it. i've done several test and 90% of it seep through the fabric. does your pattern use heat to transfer the pattern onto the fabric?
haniel roswell
spiderman5
01-22-2005, 10:16 AM
sure, the next one I print ill take pics of it in its stretched state.
leematthews
01-22-2005, 10:22 AM
Ericza1980... It depends on the type of pattern you've used/created. I had the same problem with my first spidey suit. If you're appearing at childrens parties you certainly need to be confident your crotch isn't going to split open when you do a high kick.
One way of tackling the problem is to stitch a 'diamond' shape of lycra into the crotch area (where the front panel meets the rear panel). For my pattern its about 2" between two of the points (which insert into stitched costume pointing from front to back). The other two point (which descend down each leg on the inside of the thigh) are about 6" apart. These measurement obviously depend on the pattern you're using, but can get over the problem you've mentioned. Hope this isn't too confusing.
leematthews
01-22-2005, 10:35 AM
http://groups.msn.com/LeeMatthewssTentaclesofTerrorSite/spidermanmovieversioncostume.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=155
Here's a picture of the last spidey outfit I made (february last year) - I know there's much better costumes out there, but in the photo you can see what I was talking about.
Spiderkes
01-22-2005, 10:37 AM
Since I am in the printing business, I sent a email to every cloth printing company in the Netherlands. With a picture of spiderman5 I explain what I want to have done. Now it's just waiting for answers and comparing the prices. The problem is that I think the US will always be cheaper, cuz of the cheap dollar now.
spiderkes
Ericza1980
01-22-2005, 10:47 AM
http://groups.msn.com/LeeMatthewssTentaclesofTerrorSite/spidermanmovieversioncostume.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=155
Here's a picture of the last spidey outfit I made (february last year) - I know there's much better costumes out there, but in the photo you can see what I was talking about.
Yea man this should help greatly...thanks!
Eric
spiderman5
01-22-2005, 11:14 AM
Hey guys, a few people have asked me wheather or not I would sell or trade the pattern ive been correcting. Ive decided not to. It took so much hard work to get it where its at, and because of that I want it to be unique. I might offer it screened on fabric, but im not sure about that yet. Ill keep you guys posted on any updates to the suit. I really appreciate your interest, and sorry if its an inconvenience to any of you.
tbx_moto
01-22-2005, 01:25 PM
Hey TBX...I need to clarify one thing. Please make sure the close-up includes both the red and blue section. Since you havent posted the pic yet, I guess you are in the process of getting it ready for its unveiling. Cant wait to see it. To be honest, I hope its good. If it shows that you are truly talented with photoshop, maybe we can work on fixing the brick section together. The fading out into almost black has always bothered me. Well,show us what you got....
Since you doubt me and keep taking subtle shots at me i'll only give you 12.5 percent and the color is a little off because im having very small scaled sections done for color correction test purposes that are only 5 x 5 cm each
http://24.77.46.187/spiderman/mypattern/12.5percentpants.jpg
Orlando Spider
01-22-2005, 02:59 PM
O.o
Holy Cow!!!
tbx_moto
01-22-2005, 03:58 PM
I have 4 different degrees of defined brick patterns, tell me what looks best. Ignore color, definition is what I'm after.
http://24.77.46.187/spiderman/mypattern/brickbluetest001.jpg
http://24.77.46.187/spiderman/mypattern/brickbluetest002.jpg
http://24.77.46.187/spiderman/mypattern/brickbluetest003.jpg
http://24.77.46.187/spiderman/mypattern/brickbluetest004.jpg
I personally like the crispness of 4...looks good to me, very nice work.
Nick Fox
reveal
01-22-2005, 08:53 PM
TBX, can you post a pic of your pattern, that closer view "the bricks" of the blue section.
I'd like to see a good close up, if possible.
SpidEMC
01-22-2005, 10:04 PM
NICE Going TBX
spidyfan43
01-22-2005, 10:58 PM
tbx, looks good. hey I'll send you a copy of the tkcomics pattern and some eye frames.. if you would send me back a copy of your edited version.If you want to e-mail me spidyfan43@aol.com
tbx_moto
01-22-2005, 11:20 PM
tbx, looks good. hey I'll send you a copy of the tkcomics pattern and some eye frames.. if you would send me back a copy of your edited version.If you want to e-mail me spidyfan43@aol.com
deal. i don't have aim and i can't email it to you but if you temporarily get msn, then we can talk. ok?
Orlando Spider
01-23-2005, 12:08 AM
I like No. 1 ;)
spidyfan43
01-23-2005, 02:29 AM
[QUOTE=tbx_moto]deal. i don't have aim and i can't email it to you but if you temporarily get msn, then we can talk. ok?[/QUOTE
OK. I'll get msn whats your msn name?
jawatrader
01-23-2005, 08:46 AM
Hey TBX, nice effort on your part, but the pattern is way off. Your brick pattern(kinda) is the same throughout the image. Its supposed to change size and angle depending on the muslce shading in the area. It looks like all you did was take a simple brick type pattern and overlayed it onto the original image after some simple changes. Now I know why you dont want to zoom in on it. Im sorry, but your pattern is farther away from the original than tkcomics and not even close to Spiderman5's brickwork. It is a nice job, but just doesnt fix any of the problems of the original, only creates more.
tbx_moto
01-23-2005, 12:13 PM
Hey TBX, nice effort on your part, but the pattern is way off. Your brick pattern(kinda) is the same throughout the image. Its supposed to change size and angle depending on the muslce shading in the area. It looks like all you did was take a simple brick type pattern and overlayed it onto the original image after some simple changes. Now I know why you dont want to zoom in on it. Im sorry, but your pattern is farther away from the original than tkcomics and not even close to Spiderman5's brickwork. It is a nice job, but just doesnt fix any of the problems of the original, only creates more.
Hey genius, those are 4 different layers and I needed to know what people preferred so I could later use the liquify tool to make the muscles look a little better. And anyone wants to see a really good close up will have to wait because I'll send a close up when I'm done using the liquify tool, and spidyfan43, I'll send you the exact pattern of those pictures if you trade me the tkcomics pattern and those lens frames. I'll also keep sending you updated patterns because I'm such a nice guy.
jawatrader
01-23-2005, 01:19 PM
Hey genius, those are 4 different layers and I needed to know what people preferred so I could later use the liquify tool to make the muscles look a little better. And anyone wants to see a really good close up will have to wait because I'll send a close up when I'm done using the liquify tool, and spidyfan43, I'll send you the exact pattern of those pictures if you trade me the tkcomics pattern and those lens frames. I'll also keep sending you updated patterns because I'm such a nice guy.
No need to insult me. I was polite and just tried to provide you with some input so that you may further improve your patterns. After reading your post I must say that you are the genius if you think that you can use the liquify tool to correct your (almost) brick patterns to look like they should. I wish you luck on your patterns and also wish luck to anyone that tries to use these to print out a costume. No doubt TBX will soon post another mentaly stimulating reply to my post. I cant wait to see what you have planned next.
Orlando Spider
01-23-2005, 03:43 PM
I was polite and just tried to provide you with some input so that you may further improve your patterns
Not too sure about that...
It looks like all you did was take a simple brick type pattern and overlayed it onto the original image after some simple changes. Now I know why you dont want to zoom in on it. Im sorry, but your pattern is farther away from the original than tkcomics and not even close to Spiderman5's brickwork. It is a nice job, but just doesnt fix any of the problems of the original, only creates more.
I don't see any constructive criticism at all... and you certainly weren't 100% polite.
Hey genius, those are 4 different layers and ...
Keep in mind... before we jump on each other, that one *impolite* quote is usually almost always caused by another...
Now I know why you dont want to zoom in on it
Remember kids, just like in art class... with every criticism, provide two more CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms. Play nice please
jawatrader
01-23-2005, 04:54 PM
Sorry, I must apologize for my previous post. After reading it, I can see how you could have taken it in a negative light. Your patterns are very impresive considering that you made the blue sections using the low res pics posted before and on ebay. If the TKcomics patterns werent available for reference, yours would be one of the better ones out there. I just wanted to point out that the brick pattern, although completely visible, is wrong. You can get some correction with the liquify tool, but it does not offer the flexability needed to change the direction of the brick pattern while at the same time squeezing it together. Also, as I am sure you have found, it tends to distort the outer edges of the area you are working on. From the way I see it, its almost like you are trying to re-invent the wheel. You might be better off going the same route as Spiderman5 and just replace the missing sections on the TKcomics patterns. Whatever you decide to do, you have earned my respect by posting the pics of the patterns you have worked on. Nice work.
webslinger922
01-23-2005, 07:25 PM
heres another costume for sale on ebay, all you have to do is put it together http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60345&item=3869245479&rd=1
tbx_moto
01-23-2005, 07:37 PM
That's spiderman5's. It's nice, eh?
tbx_moto
01-23-2005, 07:39 PM
deal. i don't have aim and i can't email it to you but if you temporarily get msn, then we can talk. ok?
OK. I'll get msn whats your msn name?
I sent you a PM of my address.
webslinger922
01-23-2005, 07:44 PM
I think your correct about it being Spiderman5's . I thought it looked familiar. And yes it does look nice. Just cut it out, sew it together, put the webbing on ,SWEET!!
Orlando Spider
01-23-2005, 10:50 PM
Hey, has anybody worked on getting movie accurate boots? I read in the "behind the mask" book that they used acrobatic boots.
Has anybody tried this yet? Who has the best boots so far? ;)
Just Curious
tbx_moto
01-23-2005, 11:29 PM
Go buy some karate shoes or water shoes. They work best
Kuriatey08
01-24-2005, 12:51 AM
Hey,
I'm just tryimg to make a spider-man suit, and there's a few things that I'm just trying to figure out. One thing, I've noticed on ebay that there is someone selling allready made webbing for a costume. I guess that this is made out of some kind of rubber or something like that. I've allready made 1 costume using the tulip paint, but I'm just trying to figure out a way that may look better. Also I'm wondering where I would be able to buy good fabric to make the costume, and like what type of things the eyes were made of.
If anyone knows answers to some of these questions, that would just be a lot of help toward me.
thanks,
blaze269
01-24-2005, 01:19 AM
Hey Mex...........I love that Ultraman suit. I have been searching forever to find where to get one made. PM me with any info that may help if you would.
Tracy Spider
01-24-2005, 03:02 AM
Just letting everyone know I finally have a little bit of a "decent" website. Check it out. herbpinpin.home.comcast.net TBX, great job on the pattern-wish I could use photoshop like that.
Tracy Spider
spidey4fun
01-24-2005, 03:22 AM
Aqua shoes work well for footwear.
http://www.spidey.000k2.com/images/DSC00440.JPG
hanielroswell
01-24-2005, 05:21 AM
Hey guys, a few people have asked me wheather or not I would sell or trade the pattern ive been correcting. Ive decided not to. It took so much hard work to get it where its at, and because of that I want it to be unique. I might offer it screened on fabric, but im not sure about that yet. Ill keep you guys posted on any updates to the suit. I really appreciate your interest, and sorry if its an inconvenience to any of you.
great move 5,
although a lot of people might be a little bit dissapointed by your decision, but i'm sure you made the right move and as a loyal respect you decision. i understand why you would prefer to offer it screen on fabric instead.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-24-2005, 05:44 AM
Hey TBX, nice effort on your part, but the pattern is way off. Your brick pattern(kinda) is the same throughout the image. Its supposed to change size and angle depending on the muslce shading in the area. It looks like all you did was take a simple brick type pattern and overlayed it onto the original image after some simple changes. Now I know why you dont want to zoom in on it. Im sorry, but your pattern is farther away from the original than tkcomics and not even close to Spiderman5's brickwork. It is a nice job, but just doesnt fix any of the problems of the original, only creates more.
i have agree with jawa on this one. i can hardly see any difference between the four pattern. and jawa is right, the colour is a bit way off. comparably with spiderman 5, but you shouldn't take that as an insult noruld you dish any of them out. i dun think jawa insult you in any way with his comment. it is very direct and straight forward and nothing about his comment is insulting in my opinion.
i think you just can't handle the truth tbx. every now and then, it nice to have a second opinion. it keep us humble and grounded.
haniel roswell
bugeyed
01-24-2005, 09:35 AM
IM sorry Haniel but i must get this off my chest.
First off you are about as humble as Paris Hilton. Damn near 50%, if not more, of the posts i read from you are cocky critisizims. Your color is off my source says so. Your brick pattern is off my source says so. Whatever man.
As for Jawatrader's comment. Well if you dont find that to be insulting then you have a warpped sence of insults. Fine TBX has made bad comments but that dosent mean you have to rip him every chance you get. Hell even Jawa appologized after he read it.
You guys are all hear to make this "Perfect Spidey Suit" which in and of itself is an oxy-moron. Everyone has different tastes so only one person can really say they have the perfect suit, the person who owns it.
The title of this thread needs to be "Making the perfect Spider-man movie costume REPLICA".
Damn, i remember a time when this board used to be about the perfect spidey suit. Each persons perfect suit. Now you guys all just sit around and B%^CH about stuff and at each other.
blaze269
01-24-2005, 10:11 AM
Hey bugeyed...................This is about making the perfect spidey suit. So for now it has focussed on the perfect movie suit. What's wrong with that? Replicating the movie suit doesn't necessarily have different views as to whether it is perfect or not. There is after all only one movie that is being referred to at this point. And that suit, is what everyone wants to copy. I wish I wasn't trying to do so many other things right now or I might be trying to get another suit as well. I still think these guys have come a long way with their efforts. I enjoy coming here to see what the latest developments are.
tbx_moto
01-24-2005, 10:48 AM
I have size 14 feet, how would I stretch the boot in photoshop to fit my foot? It can't just be a standard stretch because then it would effect the shin and distort the shin area.
Anyone have any ideas?
Oh haniel;, just cause you're ugly and going under some surgery doesn't mean you can just come here and take it out on everyone, jawa... what the hell crawled up your as$? your dad? There, I said it, and you deserved a little bit of humiliation since you've done nothing but criticize and run people out of business.
Both of you need to pay close attention to posts, like what I said about the color. And quit posting your crappy 2 cents. I agree with with bug eyed and blazed, summed up, this is what they said:
SHUT! UP!
anyways, I have size 14 feet, how would I stretch the boot in photoshop to fit my foot? It can't just be a standard stretch because then it would effect the shin and distort the shin area.
Anyone have any ideas?
SpidEMC
01-24-2005, 11:10 AM
Can't we all just get along?
Anyhow everyone's tastes are different and I say take what you like and use it. I hope to God when Knight Seeker hits that people will not be so Nit-Picky about the suit, thank God it is a bio plasma armour suit so it can always change a little, never has to be the same exact look twice.
Knight Seeker'
PS Tracy SPider-- Nice site http://herbpinpin.home.comcast.net/new_page_2.htm
joemillions
01-24-2005, 12:23 PM
i have agree with jawa on this one. i can hardly see any difference between the four pattern. and jawa is right, the colour is a bit way off. comparably with spiderman 5, but you shouldn't take that as an insult noruld you dish any of them out. i dun think jawa insult you in any way with his comment. it is very direct and straight forward and nothing about his comment is insulting in my opinion.
i think you just can't handle the truth tbx. every now and then, it nice to have a second opinion. it keep us humble and grounded.
haniel roswell
Yea you are a bit of an ass-whole Han- You see your self as like the all mighty daddy of the forum- which i think most of the stuff you say is way off! like in our're chat today you said that OVDH's colour is way off and yours( from your secret source) is spot on- Well how did you figure that out since Ollie matched his from the a piece form the original. And your not atcually that nice of a person also! you've been in this forum for some time now and i have seen alot problems started by you.
I've seen you say this to some people here maybe someone should say it to you...Maybe you should leave the forum.
joemillions
01-24-2005, 12:52 PM
Oh yea OVDH. I just sent you a PM.
joemillions
01-24-2005, 12:56 PM
Also nice site Tracy Spider!
bugeyed
01-24-2005, 01:27 PM
I just want to say that i had no intention of my post starting yet another flame war.
I just feel it's way past time for some people around here to lighten up and give credit where credit is due without all of this bashing.
Blaze, I see your point and right you are. But even the actuall suit used in the movie could be improved on. And yes you can still say "hey this is perfect enough for me". Hot-damn, lets all take the sticks out of our a$$'s. No one is perfect even the suits in the movie can be improved upon, anything can. Especially when you are the artist creating it. I am never happy when i make a suit but there is a point that you just need to let it go. And to be a jerk with petty comments is just stupid and improves, acheives nothing.
And TBX what the hell kind of comment is that. That was the MOST rude thing I have ever read on here.
tbx_moto
01-24-2005, 01:44 PM
And TBX what the hell kind of comment is that. That was the MOST rude thing I have ever read on here.
I think I'm entitled to defend myself after jawas and uglys, i mean haniels comment there.
Also, spidy4fun when can I expect you to add me on msn?
Spiderkes
01-24-2005, 01:48 PM
Back to creating the suits ppl:
I found a company that dye subs the lycra for 45 euro square meter. This isn't expensive right? How many square meters is the whole pattern?
What is the best solution for the back spider? Should I let a piece dyed red and cut out the spider?
Please any comment is helpful. tnx
SpiderJack
01-24-2005, 02:49 PM
You know what folks? The fun has run out. I've got better things to do than read this bickering BS on this board. Goodbye.
reveal
01-24-2005, 03:10 PM
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif:(:(:( this can't be good...
purplegoblin182
01-24-2005, 03:12 PM
You know Han. I'm glad people are starting to see you for what you are!
In regards to TBX - try taking the image into Illustrator and enlarging that way. it's much easier. Trial and error is the only thing i can suggest.
For the back spider i have always thought the fabric way was the hardest. Try getting some foamies material and cut it out.
jawatrader
01-24-2005, 03:21 PM
I have size 14 feet, how would I stretch the boot in photoshop to fit my foot? It can't just be a standard stretch because then it would effect the shin and distort the shin area.
Anyone have any ideas?
Oh haniel;, just cause you're ugly and going under some surgery doesn't mean you can just come here and take it out on everyone, jawa... what the hell crawled up your as$? your dad? There, I said it, and you deserved a little bit of humiliation since you've done nothing but criticize and run people out of business.
Both of you need to pay close attention to posts, like what I said about the color. And quit posting your crappy 2 cents. I agree with with bug eyed and blazed, summed up, this is what they said:
SHUT! UP!
anyways, I have size 14 feet, how would I stretch the boot in photoshop to fit my foot? It can't just be a standard stretch because then it would effect the shin and distort the shin area.
Anyone have any ideas?
TBX...you need to grow up. Im done with you. I tried to apologize and make things right and you respond by insulting me further and talking crap about my dad? And as for running people out of business...thats bull. TKcomics was selling his patterns under false pretenses and for a very steap price. He lied to his customers and claimed they were color when in fact they are black and white except for the bleached out red. I offer a much better product for a much better price as many of the members here can attest to. Thats called being fair and honest. Thats something I wish I could say about you. You scam people out of their red patterns and steal others work. I know for a fact that you used my blue sections for your pattern. And yes I have proof as some members already know. If anyone on this board wants to deal with this jerk feel free...just remember that some of us tried to warn you. As for me...Im done. I will not post about or in reply to this wind bag. I also take back my apology to you. You went too far with your crap. To the rest of you...I wish you the best and have the highest respect for your work. I hope this post doesnt start any other flame wars. That is not my intention.
jawatrader
01-24-2005, 03:48 PM
I just want to say that i had no intention of my post starting yet another flame war.
I just feel it's way past time for some people around here to lighten up and give credit where credit is due without all of this bashing.
Blaze, I see your point and right you are. But even the actuall suit used in the movie could be improved on. And yes you can still say "hey this is perfect enough for me". Hot-damn, lets all take the sticks out of our a$$'s. No one is perfect even the suits in the movie can be improved upon, anything can. Especially when you are the artist creating it. I am never happy when i make a suit but there is a point that you just need to let it go. And to be a jerk with petty comments is just stupid and improves, acheives nothing.
And TBX what the hell kind of comment is that. That was the MOST rude thing I have ever read on here.
Hey Bugeyed...I tend to agree with you. There will never be a perfect Spidey suit. We all try our best to get it as close to the original movie version as we can, but unless someone gets a copy of the finished ready to print patterns...that will never happen. All we have to work with are the TKcomics low quality copies. Each of us has our own idea as how to improve/fix it. Some of us corrected the colors as best we could and found that to be good enough and yet others have tried to fix the brick pattern to make it better. Either way...its still not exactly the same and most likely never will be. Lets all just try to remember why we are doing this...to have fun. We all love spiderman and thats why we joined this forum. My new attitude is to just let it go and enjoy sharing the company and feedback of other Spiderman( and Knight Seeker) fans.
bugeyed
01-24-2005, 04:23 PM
Can i get an Amen!!
Now then.
Anyone have any new pic's?
SpiderManYetter
01-24-2005, 04:28 PM
(sigh.......)
bugeyed
01-24-2005, 04:32 PM
Lol
Tracy Spider
01-24-2005, 04:49 PM
I hope all this bickering is over soon and this place returns to helping each other out and accepting everyones criticism. I believe everyone just has their own ideas on what the "perfect" suit should look like. I think we just lost spiderjack who has helped me out a lot with my suit from his tutorial-don't want to lose any more talent that's out there wether good or bad.
Anyways...I'm looking to change my lenses to hard frames such as resin or some type of mold. The problem is I have absolutely no experience. Just like when I made my own suit...no experience in sewing but managed to learn how on my own. Any one have any ideas that maybe of help---maybe a "how to" and pictures of the actual product/material (brand) so when I go to the store I know exactly what to look for.
Thanks ahead of time if anybody can help me out.
Also thanks to joemillions and spidEMC for your comment on my site.
Peace,
Tracy Spider herbpinpin.home.comcast.net
Spiderkes
01-24-2005, 04:58 PM
Tracy, contact Spidyfan43, spidyfan43@aol.com for the eyeframes. He has perfect movie shaped ones.
Anyone else has a good idea about the back spider? If I do it foamies it would raise too much, purp. Sewn on it is more movie accurate I guess. Making it of latex will be lot of work.
Spiderkes
bugeyed
01-24-2005, 05:32 PM
spiderkes.
PM me i have a mold to make a latex back spider. you can see my pics on.....damn let me go see what page real quick. Wow its wayyyyy back on 330 about the middle of the page imurne posted them for me.
Don't worry I'm not looking for money just trying to help out. If you like it let me know and I can send you one.
amazingheroes
01-24-2005, 06:15 PM
yeah Spidyfan43 has great movie type lens. I just bought a brick pattern suit from him and it looks so good! =o) That guy has skills!
Tracy Spider
01-24-2005, 06:51 PM
spiderkes.
PM me i have a mold to make a latex back spider. you can see my pics on.....damn let me go see what page real quick. Wow its wayyyyy back on 330 about the middle of the page imurne posted them for me.
Don't worry I'm not looking for money just trying to help out. If you like it let me know and I can send you one.
Bugeyed,
Is there any way you can give me info on that too? That looks excellent! I want to learn how to do that with latex.
Thanks
Tracy Spider
tbx_moto
01-24-2005, 08:29 PM
does anybody remember spiderham?
http://home.fuse.net/spiderhamhype/1208.jpg
Is he even subscribed to this forum?
bugeyed
01-24-2005, 09:10 PM
Tracy,
Yeah shoot me a PM with your address. It'll take me a couple of weeks though, I dont have any cast out right now.
Orlando Spider
01-24-2005, 09:28 PM
Yep, i used aquashoes for my spidey suit.
How have you guys resolved the problem of actually slipping the boot on? I don't have zippers to aid in slipping in, and i'm constantly afraid of tearing the fabric out of the boot. Did you guys use superglue to ensure the attachment of the boot to the fabric? (along with stitching around the base).
I was just curious if anyone had found the actual kind of boot. It looks much nicer asthetically.
http://www.spider-costumes.de/db_movie063.jpg
X-Cloned
01-25-2005, 04:39 AM
TBX, great go on the pattern. PM me your MSN addy. I'll add you. Guys, I am sick of all this bickering already. The aim of this thread started by Mick was to make the perfect suit, or should I say closest to the movie. If this goes on I'll leave this forum soon enough.
hanielroswell
01-25-2005, 05:10 AM
IM sorry Haniel but i must get this off my chest.
First off you are about as humble as Paris Hilton. Damn near 50%, if not more, of the posts i read from you are cocky critisizims. Your color is off my source says so. Your brick pattern is off my source says so. Whatever man.
As for Jawatrader's comment. Well if you dont find that to be insulting then you have a warpped sence of insults. Fine TBX has made bad comments but that dosent mean you have to rip him every chance you get. Hell even Jawa appologized after he read it.
You guys are all hear to make this "Perfect Spidey Suit" which in and of itself is an oxy-moron. Everyone has different tastes so only one person can really say they have the perfect suit, the person who owns it.
The title of this thread needs to be "Making the perfect Spider-man movie costume REPLICA".
Damn, i remember a time when this board used to be about the perfect spidey suit. Each persons perfect suit. Now you guys all just sit around and B%^CH about stuff and at each other.
whoa there cowboy,
what eating you my bug eye friend. may be you need to reflect on your own comment. i never brag on the board about having the perfect pattern nor did i critize any one elses. as for the paris hilton comment, i take that as a compliment thank you very much.
i never once brag nor i intend to brag about the fact that i have this wonderful source. true, i do have in my opinion the correct colour source for the pattern. so what. doesn't make me a show off does it. when people like spiderman 5 post picture of their pattern and ask for comment, of course i am gracious enough to give it. and by doing so i have to refer to my quote " reference" now you tell me. where is the ego in that? i simply offering my constructive comment. something which i think you could use right about now.
if tbx can't accept the truth then that's his problem. you right about one thing, maybe the source of my comment are direct toward the comment he made before toward some member of the board, but ain't this time. may be you should change you nick name to the "blinded bugeyed" if you can't see the similarity in those 4 pic posted by tbx. tell me if you so keen the difference within those 4 pic and may be i might apologize.
i ain't even going to waste my breathe on your last comment cause it is just plain childish.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-25-2005, 05:17 AM
I have size 14 feet, how would I stretch the boot in photoshop to fit my foot? It can't just be a standard stretch because then it would effect the shin and distort the shin area.
Anyone have any ideas?
Oh haniel;, just cause you're ugly and going under some surgery doesn't mean you can just come here and take it out on everyone, jawa... what the hell crawled up your as$? your dad? There, I said it, and you deserved a little bit of humiliation since you've done nothing but criticize and run people out of business.
Both of you need to pay close attention to posts, like what I said about the color. And quit posting your crappy 2 cents. I agree with with bug eyed and blazed, summed up, this is what they said:
SHUT! UP!
anyways, I have size 14 feet, how would I stretch the boot in photoshop to fit my foot? It can't just be a standard stretch because then it would effect the shin and distort the shin area.
Anyone have any ideas?
well well well, what do we have here, the dick finally grew some ball to back talk people huh? what's the matter, can't take the heat? can't handle the truth? you know what, i made peace with my self a long time ago. and i certainly not going to spoil my aura with punk like you. i have my own reputation and i know that it is just one person opinion. hell, if i really want to screw you up, i would've call your mama and have her serve my man hood while you take a front row sit.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-25-2005, 05:27 AM
You know Han. I'm glad people are starting to see you for what you are!
In regards to TBX - try taking the image into Illustrator and enlarging that way. it's much easier. Trial and error is the only thing i can suggest.
For the back spider i have always thought the fabric way was the hardest. Try getting some foamies material and cut it out.
who talking to you theif. shall i remind you who's the crook on this hype. pipe down and suck on a lemon purp. you belong in the same kennel with the rest of the dog.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-25-2005, 05:44 AM
Yea you are a bit of an ass-whole Han- You see your self as like the all mighty daddy of the forum- which i think most of the stuff you say is way off! like in our're chat today you said that OVDH's colour is way off and yours( from your secret source) is spot on- Well how did you figure that out since Ollie matched his from the a piece form the original. And your not atcually that nice of a person also! you've been in this forum for some time now and i have seen alot problems started by you.
I've seen you say this to some people here maybe someone should say it to you...Maybe you should leave the forum.
kiss my rear end joe. you pathetic you know that. i admit, i do think that OVDH colour is slightly a bit off. but i never once said that it was not good. i have a lot of respect for ollie and his work and he should know that.
what the hell, are you and tbx came from the same A hole as tbx? both of you can't handle the truth. joe here is sore with my cause i won't share my so call perfect colour pattern with him. well that's cause i knew you bad news. some people here would agree with me. i won't mention name cause i have more dignity then you. i knew you were a rat that why i never share it with you. but for does i did show the picture to, know that i am the real deal and that i'm not just bragging about it.
i should leave the forum huh? who die and made you the moderator. this is a public forum. i can come and go as i please. you on the hand, should really consider packing up and hit the road jack. you must be drunk if you think that i cause more problem here then purp. go back a couple of hundred page and breif through each and every one of the post.
the hype has been my second home. and i have always defend it from coaky individual and ignorant low life such as your self. even if it mean being trash talk or being temperary ban, hey, it was worth it.
what have you done lately to contribute to the hype joe?
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-25-2005, 05:52 AM
ok i dont know who the **** these newbies are but i'm getting sick of all these sad little monthly flame wars,so one of you hush up,or **** off!!!seriously how many times do we have to go through this,it is really getting stupid.
i agree,
i really have no intention here to trash talk any one here. but i just can't stand when people start blowing me off. we all civilize people people here. certainly we could continue with out raging a war here. if i want war, i sign up for the army and join the iraqi war. but i can see that our bickering has really annoy a lot of the enior here. so i be big about it. i apologize to every one here. tbx, bugeyed, joe, sorry man. ignore my last few post. by gone be by gone
haniel roswell
joemillions
01-25-2005, 06:18 AM
See Han, you got problems and issues. Maybe four againt's one doesn't tell you anything.
Why don't read all you posts again in slow motion.
Anyone can just tell- If you didn't wanna start fighting you simply wouldn't of replied.
If you kept you mouth full of trash shut half the time all these problems wouldn't have started.
You are as much in the blame for certin members leaving and wanting to leave here and thats a fact open to anyone with a pair of eyes.
spiderfan09
01-25-2005, 06:20 AM
does anybody remember spiderham?
http://home.fuse.net/spiderhamhype/1208.jpg
Is he even subscribed to this forum?
yeah, he still pops in once and a while, not very often though.
X-Cloned
01-25-2005, 08:11 AM
SpiderHam is awesome ! Admitedly not the best work ever, BUT HIS SUITS ARE HELL OF A GREAT DEAL ! I think his suits are one of the MORE ACCURATE ones in the system.
bugeyed
01-25-2005, 09:44 AM
Unfortunatly you lack the insight to even see the point in my post Haniel. Thats too bad.
bugeyed
01-25-2005, 09:55 AM
I just replied to my PM's.
Aron O sorry i didnt see your PM did you receive the eyes and spider? Your last message said you hadn't got them yet.
bugeyed
Spiderkes
01-25-2005, 10:28 AM
I have also a request for the front spider. I am looking for very movie accurate one, like B&B's but bobby told me he didn't sell it separate. Anyone thinks he has the perfect one or knows how to make one?
thanx
Spiderkes
bugeyed
01-25-2005, 12:09 PM
Spiderkes,
I can send you one of mine along with the back spider.
leematthews
01-25-2005, 12:19 PM
SpiderHams a legend- I've got a pretty good idea about costume making but that guy puts me to shame. He's been making movie quality suits to a professional level long before the CD pattern became available. His Battle of the planets costume is perfect.
He even appears on the special features of the UK Spiderman 2 DVD (at the premiere) - there's not many members on this forum that can say that.
A few of the older members have grown quiet - GermanSpidey, TimLane, Wams, Imurme, PeterParker007, Even SpideyEMC (not like you Eric ;-) ) I miss the old stories (like the time german spidey used his mrs's pants for the white gauze for the lenses).
I just think the forum has moved away from the old messages of congratulations & people mailing lots of silly pictures - to being really critical and *****y. I won't get involved in any arguments, but I think making a spidey costume is a very difficult thing anyway & if people don't get any encouragement or positive/constructive feedback it doesn't help anyone (& not a very spidey attitude either).
I think I'll climb off my soapbox now.
Spiderkes
01-25-2005, 12:29 PM
What is it made of bugeyed? Your front spider isn't as movie accurate as your back one. The costume I am planning to make is as good as it can be. thanks anyway.
Spiderman5?? Where, at what kind of shop, did you purchase the lycra scroll? I have been looking, but can't find a thing..
Spiderkes
Hi,
this is my Front Spider. Itīs not casted from the original, but I think itīs quite good.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/OVDH/FrontSpider.jpg
Ollie
reveal
01-25-2005, 02:23 PM
Ollie, will you post pics of your new webs soon?
can't wait to see them :D
I would also like people to get back to the original subject...if it's not too hard to do.
Thanks
Orlando Spider
01-25-2005, 02:34 PM
Looks GREAT Ollie.
I can't wait to see some pictures of the final products you're working on right now.
As far as all the arguements on the board... NOTHING will ever get accomplished by argueing.
What people need to learn here is that if someone does insult you, wether it be unintended or directly, YOU DONT HAVE TO RESPOND IN THE SAME MANNER. My gosh, the only people I know that get so worked up about something and respond like this is children.
"I'm going to get you back!" "Well, if you do then i'm going to get you back!!!"
IT IS POINTLESS.
I've always seen retaliation on this level (the internet) pointless, and what is this over? A Spiderman suit.
Where does this stand in the scheme of our entire lives? Is it worth it to argue? NO.
This forum was based upon the moral and good-heartedness of the character we all love. Spiderman. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE SUIT. It is about an IDEAL.
I ask myself, ANYONE who argues on here, are they even worthy to dawn the mask? To portray the goodness of spiderman, the one wearing the suit must have the character to resemble him, not only the likeness.
This is a thread to build each other up, not to tear each other down. This is a thread to add to peoples lives, and their overall enjoyement of life... not to cause stress, resentment, anger, retaliation, what have you.
Keep in mind, the actions of one can affect a hundred. I HAVE SEEN petty squabbling like this bring forums to their KNEES. It effects the innocent.
this is so dissapointing. Either don't start anything, or be a MAN and walk away. You don't have to respond to someone who aggrivates you, it only fueles the fire. As we've seen
SO JUST STOP!!!
Germanspider
01-25-2005, 02:36 PM
SpiderHams a legend- I've got a pretty good idea about costume making but that guy puts me to shame. He's been making movie quality suits to a professional level long before the CD pattern became available. His Battle of the planets costume is perfect.
He even appears on the special features of the UK Spiderman 2 DVD (at the premiere) - there's not many members on this forum that can say that.
A few of the older members have grown quiet - GermanSpidey, TimLane, Wams, Imurme, PeterParker007, Even SpideyEMC (not like you Eric ;-) ) I miss the old stories (like the time german spidey used his mrs's pants for the white gauze for the lenses).
I just think the forum has moved away from the old messages of congratulations & people mailing lots of silly pictures - to being really critical and *****y. I won't get involved in any arguments, but I think making a spidey costume is a very difficult thing anyway & if people don't get any encouragement or positive/constructive feedback it doesn't help anyone (& not a very spidey attitude either).
I think I'll climb off my soapbox now.
Amen Bro... thatīs right.
A few pages ago i said the same... iīm missing the real spirit of this thread.
Having fun... helping each other...
Would be nice to have the old days back.
(like the time german spidey used his mrs's pants for the white gauze for the lenses).
OMG... iīve always hoped that nobody would remember :)
Martin
Spiderkes
01-25-2005, 05:42 PM
Ollie, what is it made of?
tbx_moto
01-25-2005, 05:58 PM
Ollie, what is it made of?
I could ask YOU the same question.
So uhh... what are... uh... you made of?
Hellboy is a homo :hellboy:
tbx_moto
01-25-2005, 07:09 PM
Who here is the one with the dye sublimation printer?
I found a place that charges:
21.4 cents / 1 inch (Canadian)
17.3 cents / 1 inch (American)
The only thing is that they print each section off in 8.5" x 11" sections. So they'd be aligning all the pieces. Now this guy referred me to a place in the US that prints big things up to 6 feet wide max, but that's besides the point. What I want is some tips on dye sublimation printing and aligning by anyone who knows and has experience about dye sublimation printers.
Tracy Spider
01-25-2005, 09:22 PM
Hi,
this is my Front Spider. Itīs not casted from the original, but I think itīs quite good.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/OVDH/FrontSpider.jpg
Ollie
OVDH,
Can I use this photo somehow and put it on my site? What is it made of?
Thanks
Tracy Spider herbpinpin.home.comcast.net
TBX, I would recommend that you take his advice, and go with the larger printer. That alignment would not be fun. You may also want to look into people who print displays and table covers for conventions and such...often times they have the necessary equipment to do what we need. Tbx, hows the pattern coming? I tried a rough pattern with the liquify tool to pretty good results. Do you think you could PM me with details on the large-size dye-sub place you are being told about, and telling us about...I have been trying to find a good deal before I print anything.
Nick Fox
Germanspider
01-26-2005, 12:56 AM
This is the spider, that iīve used for my front:
http://www.spider-costumes.de/testpics/spiderfront.gif
blaze269
01-26-2005, 12:56 AM
Good to see ya back there German!
blaze269
01-26-2005, 01:03 AM
Oh and speaking of spiderham....................
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Blaze269/TheatrePics010.jpg
X-Cloned
01-26-2005, 02:51 AM
LOL, Blaze, those kids behind would probably be saying this " Dude, Spidey's here man !!! "
Ollie - Awesome chest spider man. Not exactly right though. I hope you don't mind me critisising, the but should be bent like what GermanSpider posted.
German, GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK !
Amen to the more mature people. I still believe this thread is important in making the perfect Spidey suit. PEOPLE !!! Get yourself together. This thread is for the PERFECT SPIDEY SUIT, not the PERFECT ARGUEING SESSION. There's definitely no point at trying to get back at someone else. Being one of the younger ones here myself, I have an advice for you guys, get a life and ignore the silly comments people make. Hope I have been clear about that.
My 2 cents have been said.
X-Cloned
01-26-2005, 02:53 AM
Honestly speaking, I would like to hear some great comments and polite critiques, not rude ones. That's what making the spidey suit is all about, I hope we can get back to how we were 100+ pages back.
Blaze, once again, amazing suit, the photography skills make it damn sweet looking.
blaze269
01-26-2005, 03:51 AM
Believe it or not, that was taken by my 10 yr old daughter. She stayed at the theatre for about 4 hours or so that day with me. Thanks for the compliment.
X-Cloned
01-26-2005, 04:46 AM
Wow, 4 hours. She must really like Spidey and her Dad. Great work again.
hanielroswell
01-26-2005, 05:19 AM
See Han, you got problems and issues. Maybe four againt's one doesn't tell you anything.
Why don't read all you posts again in slow motion.
Anyone can just tell- If you didn't wanna start fighting you simply wouldn't of replied.
If you kept you mouth full of trash shut half the time all these problems wouldn't have started.
You are as much in the blame for certin members leaving and wanting to leave here and thats a fact open to anyone with a pair of eyes.
now normally i would back lash that comment with a bunch of trash talk but why stup to your level. it obviously you haven't hit puberty and got a lot of growing up to do. now you see what you made me do?
if i were any way intimidated by this gang up, god know i would have left this forum a long time ago. you right, i have issue, i have issue againest imatual brat like you. who isn't. and you were mentioning about my mouth full of trash talk. well may be if people like you wouldn't come on board the hype and run their mouth like they own the place, i would've certainly save my breathe doing so. get it through your thick skull joe, you just the small minority who get caught up in the moment and having good to say.
i've been posting in this forum way longer then you had, so dun tell me that i had been the reason why member leave this forum. may be if you were paying attention to the hype and may be go back acouple of hundred page you might want to eat your word.
this hype have little tolerance for ignorance member with cruel comment toward the hype and it's member. if i were so bad as you claim that i am responsible for a lot of the member here leaving and going else where, then why am i still here? i've posted over 400 meesage since i've join. apart from the occasional arguement, i've done nothing but contribute my time and knowledge any way i can toward the hype.
you looking at at only one side of the picture when you should be viewing it from both side. it is your personal grudge againest me other wise you would not simply just look at all my bad post. i did more contribution then i did more trash talk.
we are entitle to our own opinion and i know you can't please every one. so i'm just going to let this slide. i have too much respect for the hype to continue this mascare, even though i would love to continue to take you up on your trash talk challenge.
i know that the constant bickering here really upset some member of the hype. and for that i apologize. i hope spiderjack would consider coming back on the hype and continue to contribute his vast knowledge as he have done in the past.
if you still want rumble, hey let's not do it here. you more then welcome to PM me. and i would be more then delighted to put you at your place.
peace out
haniel roswell
joemillions
01-26-2005, 05:23 AM
o-k lol.
You just don't get it.
hanielroswell
01-26-2005, 05:29 AM
Unfortunatly you lack the insight to even see the point in my post Haniel. Thats too bad.
my lack of insight? you lack vocabulary man. may be that why i can't understand your post.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-26-2005, 05:33 AM
Hi,
this is my Front Spider. Itīs not casted from the original, but I think itīs quite good.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/OVDH/FrontSpider.jpg
Ollie
that looks good ollie. as good as the original. i have one from bobby c and from what bobby told me that it was cast from the original mold. but there is a lot of trimming needed. your looks great.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-26-2005, 05:34 AM
o-k lol.
You just don't get it.
i guess WE"LL never will.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-26-2005, 05:36 AM
Oh and speaking of spiderham....................
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Blaze269/TheatrePics010.jpg
i dun know why, but i never get tired looking at a ham original. great pose blaze.
haniel roswell
hanielroswell
01-26-2005, 05:39 AM
hey 5,
saw your auction at ebay. congrate man. current bid is at your break even price. i have feeling come end of auction, you should fetch a lot more then it's worth.
peace
haniel roswell
joemillions
01-26-2005, 06:25 AM
just PM'ed ya OVDH
bugeyed
01-26-2005, 07:47 AM
my lack of insight? you lack vocabulary man. may be that why i can't understand your post.
haniel roswell
Just keep on proving my point partner.
spiderman5
01-26-2005, 09:05 AM
hey 5,
saw your auction at ebay. congrate man. current bid is at your break even price. i have feeling come end of auction, you should fetch a lot more then it's worth.
peace
haniel roswell
Thanks, If it goes higher cool. All I needed was 400 so I could do another test.
blaze269
01-26-2005, 11:57 AM
I wish you friggin people would just knock off this damn bickering. Joe, bugeyed, sheesh chill out!!! This is just rediculous. If you have something positive toward the real nature of this board, then say it. If not don't waste your time, much less ours.
AAAAnyway...........Yeah my lil girl loves her dad........And spiderman. She used to be afraid of me in my classic suit so I sold it. She loves this one though. She's my little helper when it comes to zipping up, or unzipping along the back.
Orlando Spider
01-26-2005, 11:59 AM
spiderman5
The only thing that concerns me about your pattern so far is that it almost looks like the contrast between the lights and darks *in the red* is too great. Perhaps it's just the way the pictures were taken.... i think a lighter contrast might look more realistic.
I do however ABSOLUTELY LOVE the way they blues are looking right now.
I dunno, it's preference, you might like the contrast ;) In which case, congrats good job.
Orlando Spider
01-26-2005, 12:00 PM
BLAZE, your suit looks great.
Speaking of which, i haven't been able to contact larry for quite some time...
Do you know if he's still around?
He hasn't replied to my emails
joemillions
01-26-2005, 12:28 PM
What forum?
Spiderkes
01-26-2005, 01:00 PM
Can't we better stick to one forum only? It makes it easier to overview the subject.
spiderman5
01-26-2005, 01:22 PM
Hey, the contrast on that pattern was alittle to much but alot of it had to do with the picture I took. Ive edited it since. Thanks
spiderman5
The only thing that concerns me about your pattern so far is that it almost looks like the contrast between the lights and darks *in the red* is too great. Perhaps it's just the way the pictures were taken.... i think a lighter contrast might look more realistic.
I do however ABSOLUTELY LOVE the way they blues are looking right now.
I dunno, it's preference, you might like the contrast ;) In which case, congrats good job.
tbx_moto
01-26-2005, 04:32 PM
Hey Ollie, or any one that's molded webs before, how much liquid latex did you use, and did you use HOT liquid latex or COLD liquid latex?
HOT LIQUID LATEX is the stuff you have to put in an oven to dry
COLD liquid latex is the stuff where you let it dry on its own.
Also, would a 16 oz bottle finish the job for a whole suit?
Orlando Spider
01-26-2005, 04:41 PM
Spiderman5 you have a pm
bugeyed
01-26-2005, 04:57 PM
blaze269 I wish you friggin people would just knock off this damn bickering. Joe, bugeyed, sheesh chill out!!! This is just rediculous. If you have something positive toward the real nature of this board, then say it. If not don't waste your time, much less ours.
Blaze dont even jump Joe and I. It's your buddy Haniel that keeps making comments. My whole point was to stop this crap.
Now on to more stimulating subject matter.
bugeyed
01-26-2005, 05:03 PM
tbx_moto Hey Ollie, or any one that's molded webs before, how much liquid latex did you use, and did you use HOT liquid latex or COLD liquid latex?
HOT LIQUID LATEX is the stuff you have to put in an oven to dry
COLD liquid latex is the stuff where you let it dry on its own.
Also, would a 16 oz bottle finish the job for a whole suit?
Depends Tbx,
Regular liquid latex also called slip casting latex works great and I have never had a line break. As for Cold and Hot latex, both are foam latex and the hot really has minimal advantage over the cold other than it's cheaper. The colds advantage is you dont have to find an oven big enough to cook it (depending on the size of your molds). With The size of the webbing mold your looking at unless you cut up the chest and head youll need what a three foot oven. If the oven isnt an issue deffinetly go hot foam.
Orlando Spider
01-26-2005, 05:19 PM
Bugeyed i'd like to see those pics.
Anybody know how bobby/ ben do their boots?
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