Making the perfect Spidey suit

[JESTER FX]

No I never thought about doing Ben Reilly costume but that is good coloring for it I do want to do the alex ross spidergirl based off of the mini bust he did

[JESTER FX]

Oh and Orlando spider I don’t know why you like to stir up **** so much but if you can keep your smart ass comments to your self and say something nice fro once and actually bring something of use the this board just stay the **** off of it or don’t comment. We don’t need people like you starting problems or making other members feel belittled when they have something of importance to say or show we all contribute to this forum its about time you started or got the hell out of town. and just to clarify your post to my muscle suit watch the move it is accurate to what they show and what I could do on the mannequin I had. I just added more abs and yes the back is very cartoon like and bulky but he is a ****ing superhero. So take a look at my work and the real one and just shut up already because like I said you push me and I push back twice as hard and I don’t play nice when I am mad. Everyone else great work keep it us and brad love the new picks you posted wish I had your talent on the computer.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/jokerman1303/cap065.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/jokerman1303/zvwgweg.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/jokerman1303/vzxvzxvzxv.jpg

[Taylor]

Wow Brad, I hadn't noticed the Hexagonal grid pattern you used as a base. That's really nice. It looks as good if not better than the normal brick pattern. Did you redesign the muscle shading too? Or just impose the Hex grid over the original muscle pattern? I'm wondering how you're going to handle the hands with two (or is it three) webbed fingers next to blue ones. It seems like it would be a bit of a pain.
JesterFx, as always, very nice sculpts. I can't wait to see some pulls underneath a suit. Do you think it will hamper flexability at all (for some of our more athletic Spider-Men here on the board)? But then again, I guess it didn't hinder the stuntmen in the movie.

[spidey4fun]

I tried to use as much of my first suit as possible. No point reinventing the wheel. But I still had to remake the muscle shading on a fair part of the suit. The fingers are done..lol..that was one of the easier parts. The hard part is getting the seams, webs and spiders to all line up and flow in the correct direction on the various parts of the suit. I got a friend with a CNC that SHOULD be able to turn the CAD files I wrote for the webbing on this suit into a webbing mold. I MIGHT give this suit the Movie Webbing treatment but of course in Reilly style.

[Spiderman0884]

I made 1 suit with printed spiders. And I may do one with Urethane spiders shortly.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Ultimate%20Spidey/UltimateSpidey4fun.jpg
Really Nice suit Brad ;) The Blue and Red Colors look really nice, rich and detailed.. 2 years to get the correct shades and colors thats a long time but like they say with great power comes great responsiblity.. LOL all you need to do is show a picture of someone who fits in well suit By the way any plans for adding Urethane webbing onto this suit Brad? You Keep up the Great work Brad.

[spidey4fun]

Really Nice suit Brad ;) The Blue and Red Colors look really nice, rich and detailed.. 2 years to get the correct shades and colors thats a long time but like they say with great power comes great responsiblity.. LOL all you need to do is show a picture of someone who fits in well suit By the way any plans for adding Urethane webbing onto this suit Brad? You Keep up the Great work Brad.


Hey.. Im just slow. Or should I say busy...lol...I've been working on my kitchen for way tooooo long now and the wife wants it finished.... And nope... no plans whatsoever...:hehe:

[nameless_hero]

the reilly suit is looking really good Brad, the new honey combed texture looks great. I'll definately be first in line for a suit.

[spiderdan]

I made 1 suit with printed spiders. And I may do one with Urethane spiders shortly.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Ultimate%20Spidey/UltimateSpidey4fun.jpg

looking good brad the colours look sweet.:yay: does anyone on here now anywhere in the uk thats able print the suit paturns, ive got one but im at a loss tryn to find somewhere. :huh:

p.s liking the muscle suit jester fx :yay:

[spideyfan27]

Good luck on reinventing the webbing for that particular suit. You are in for some fun, NICE job.

I tried to use as much of my first suit as possible. No point reinventing the wheel. But I still had to remake the muscle shading on a fair part of the suit. The fingers are done..lol..that was one of the easier parts. The hard part is getting the seams, webs and spiders to all line up and flow in the correct direction on the various parts of the suit. I got a friend with a CNC that SHOULD be able to turn the CAD files I wrote for the webbing on this suit into a webbing mold. I MIGHT give this suit the Movie Webbing treatment but of course in Reilly style.

[SpidermanC]

Hey guy's I ended my auction early.

[Taylor]

Why'd you end it SpidermanC? It looked like it was going well. Last I checked bidding was up to around $1000 wasn't it? Very nice work BTW.

[SpidermanC]

Very nice work BTW.

Thanks.

[Taylor]

Yeah I guess I can understand that. Never having actually done it myself I can't adequately sympathize, but I can certainly imagine how arduous it must be. I'm sorry that you didn't get what you wanted. What sort of range were you hoping for?

[spiderfan970]

Here's the Ben Reilly logo, I took it directly from the inside cover of the first comic that it appeared in....pretty legit.

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1711484_benreillyspider.png

http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1711484_benreillyspider.png.html
(http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1711484_benreillyspider.png.html)

[spideyfan27]

I was going to wait till I had some Frames to put this in but here goes, Anyone have a clue of what this is? (lol).http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8030/movietype3samplebx8.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5475/movietype3fk9.jpg

Thanks Spidey, you are the best. Hope you feel better

[spideyfan27]

Now for the real test with a pair of frames I had for sizing up. at an angle, and straight on. What do you think guys?

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5475/movietype3fk9.jpg


http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7814/movielensangledud3.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9913/movielensstraightml4.jpg



I was going to wait till I had some Frames to put this in but here goes, Anyone have a clue of what this is? (lol).http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8030/movietype3samplebx8.jpg



Thanks Chris, you are the best. Hope you feel betterhttp://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5475/movietype3fk9.jpg

[Taylor]

Looks pretty cool man. Is it some kind of micro mesh?

[spideyfan27]

heres is 1 from the film look.











http://forums.superherohype.com/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5475/movietype3fk9.jpg%5B/IMG%5D


Now for the real test with a pair of frames I had for sizing up. at an angle, and straight on. What do you think guys?




http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7814/movielensangledud3.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9913/movielensstraightml4.jpg



http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5475/movietype3fk9.jpghttp://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1368/setpicsjuly32spidey2gp4.jpg

[spidey4fun]

Doesnt look like a mesh to me. Might even prevent the prevent the lenses from fogging. Hows the vision throught it?

[peter_parker]

Thanks. The bidding that was going on was chump change compared to the time, money, and effort put into the suit.


Wouldn't a Reserve Price auction be more appropriate if you are looking to receive a certain amount for your item? Stopping an auction because you aren't happy with the bidding is a violation of eBay policy.

[SpidermanC]

Wouldn't a Reserve Price auction be more appropriate if you are looking to receive a certain amount for your item? Stopping an auction because you aren't happy with the bidding is a violation of eBay policy.

Well I was not aware of that. I've seen people on here end an auction early?
They give an option of ending because the item is no longer available for sale. As far as I'm concerned, it's not.

[spideyfan27]

Around 97% its a new one on me its very very thin but it looks great as soon as I get these new molds hes sending me I will posts more. Right now all I have is a little of it.



Doesnt look like a mesh to me. Might even prevent the prevent the lenses from fogging. Hows the vision throught it?

[peter_parker]

Well I was not aware of that. I've seen people on here end an auction early?
They give an option of ending because the item is no longer available for sale. As far as I'm concerned, it's not.


Hmmm... I guess you changed your mind since last night (and edited your post) when you said "hey guys, I ended the auction early, but the costume is still for sale".

How close to the end of the auction were you when you ended it? I think eBay's policy is not to end it in the last 12 hours... maybe you can find a loophole. But be honest here... the suit is still for sale! You are asking other members here to be honest.... I'm asking the same of you.

[Taylor]

I think Mr. Parker just might have had a bid in on that auction. ;)

[Taylor]

I think Mr. Parker just might have had a bid in on that auction. ;)

[spidey4fun]

I think Mr. Parker just might have had a bid in on that auction. ;)


Taylor.... dude... you got some spidey sense there...Im thinking.

[peter_parker]

I think Mr. Parker just might have had a bid in on that auction. ;)

No, I did not bid on the costume. It is a very nice suit, however, and I did ask Spiderman C questions through PMs here on the boards. I also contacted him through pm's after he ended the auction, and he asked me how much I'd pay for it. I was honest with him, told him how much I would pay, and also said ... "You might be able to get more from someone else, but you can see how the bidding was going."

I would have liked to have bid on it, but not if it had gone even a little higher than the level the bids were at when he closed the auction.

My point is that he was all over other people here, claiming to be deceptive, etc. Then he himself is changing his story (and posts)... so that's all. Trying to promote honesty in our dealings here.

[Taylor]

Your point is well taken Peter Parker (Did you know I still idolize you? See my earlier post.:cwink:). We should all play nice and be good friends. It's what Spider-Man would have wanted. So in the spirit of honesty and truthfulness I propose that the kindest way to handle these occasional situations is to cut off one hand from anyone who has been caught lying. In the same vein (since I want to keep both my hands. You all see how this works right?) I will admit that I lied about needing XXXL Spidey-Condoms. It's really only like a XXL at most. :oldrazz:

[nameless_hero]

Do they make anything smaller than a small?

[peter_parker]

Your point is well taken Peter Parker (Did you know I still idolize you? See my earlier post.:cwink:). We should all play nice and be good friends. It's what Spider-Man would have wanted. So in the spirit of honesty and truthfulness I propose that the kindest way to handle these occasional situations is to cut off one hand from anyone who has been caught lying. In the same vein (since I want to keep both my hands. You all see how this works right?) I will admit that I lied about needing XXXL Spidey-Condoms. It's really only like a XXL at most. :oldrazz:

Taylor, Taylor... always going on and on about veins and hands....:oldrazz:

I agree with you Taylor... let's all just get along.

And I truly hope that Spiderman C gets what he wants (amount of money) for his costume. He has every right to set a minimum value on it, but if he doesn't want to get in trouble with eBay, he should be careful. Just giving a heads up (as I mentioned the loophole in an earlier post).

Also, I'm just posting multiple times to get a higher rating here.:wow:

[SpidermanC]

It had 1 day 40 min left. I'm pretty sure I didn't violate anything.. They deleted my auction last time and didn't give me any listing fee's or money back.. So now were even :D. But to be honest I'm sure they have bigger problem to worry about, such as all the hackers who STEAL money from people.. Also, I said "I took the auction down early. But the suit is not sold yet." I never said it was still for sale. But everything has a price peter, so that's why I asked. I just edited it to get rid of any confusion. Now that I've explained myself, lets get back to what matters :).

[peter_parker]

As they say "de nial" is more than a river in Egypt! Why tell us on this board that the suit is not sold yet if you're not trying to sell it to us or someone else?

Anyway, let's try to move on as you say. Some positive/hopefully helpful comments: from your feedback rating it appears you're not an experienced eBay seller yet (and your negative comment from one buyer whom you refused to sell an item to because you didn't think the bid was high enough is working against you there). Maybe you will get more bids in the future when your rating climbs up:bh:... that builds trust for your potential bidders.

You have a really great costume (at least one from the sound of your posts). With better lighting in your video it might sell better for you too.

[spidey4fun]

You have a really great costume (at least one from the sound of your posts). With better lighting in your video it might sell better for you too.

Oh yeah.. show it better.. nice back ground... good lighting. Get someone to wear it and get a stack of pics. I'm sure you'll do much better.:woot:

[Bnightwing]

If someone made a scarlet spider suit I would wear it!

[Taylor]

As they say "de nial" is more than a river in Egypt!


I thought they said "When you deny, You make an ass of YOU and ME", -----------------------or something like that.

[spideyfan27]

I Don't Know much, other than 2+2=3 lol but I guarantee Spidey4fun
has a great suit, even if he has it in the Shadows.

Hey guys my spider auction is up on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270231115480&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem



As they say "de nial" is more than a river in Egypt! Why tell us on this board that the suit is not sold yet if you're not trying to sell it to us or someone else?

Anyway, let's try to move on as you say. Some positive/hopefully helpful comments: from your feedback rating it appears you're not an experienced eBay seller yet (and your negative comment from one buyer whom you refused to sell an item to because you didn't think the bid was high enough is working against you there). Maybe you will get more bids in the future when your rating climbs up:bh:... that builds trust for your potential bidders.

You have a really great costume (at least one from the sound of your posts). With better lighting in your video it might sell better for you too.

[Taylor]

Do they make anything smaller than a small?


I believe they have a new, special "Micro-Mesh" design that you might be interested in. They're made by allowing a drop of the specially made latex rubber to drip onto and then run down a tic-tac. They can be a royal pain to roll up for packaging if you have big fingers, but I've heard generally positive things about them from the segment of society that would be interested in using that particular size product. :cwink:

[JESTER FX]

Mike here is some shots my friend took of me in the costume we made for him with the muscle suit and face shell. I think the colors of my costume have really grown on me because I don’t like these ones to much any more cant weight to see the new samples. Oh and the lighting sucked but it still gets the point across of what everything looks like beggars cant be choosers it was all last min.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/jokerman1303/PICT0429.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/jokerman1303/PICT0430.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/jokerman1303/PICT0432.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/jokerman1303/PICT0433.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/jokerman1303/PICT0434.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/jokerman1303/PICT0435.jpg

[Taylor]

Very nice work JesterFX. The face-shell and lens look especially nice. I have to admit however that I am slightly skeptical as to the real motive behind your post. I think that you wanted all of us to believe that you posted those pictures to show us how awesome your new suit looks, when secretly you just wanted all of us to admire your firm, tight, young buttocks!

[spidersuitmaker]

Very nice work JesterFX. The face-shell and lens look especially nice. I have to admit however that I am slightly sceptical as to the motives behind your post. I think that you want us all to believe that you posted those pictures to show us how awesome your new suit looks, when secretly you just wanted all of us to admire your firm, tight, young buttocks!
hey taylor are you speaking for yourself (i hope so) but what do you think of my suit? thats the big question

[Taylor]

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[Taylor]

Well, to your first comment, OBVIOUSLY if he's going to just put it out there like that, I can't help but LOOK! (In a very heterosexually confident sort of way). Besides, I think his buttocks are absolutely MAGNIFICENT. (You know, just from an aesthetic point of view).
Your suit looks amazing. It appears to have been woven from the finest silks. Each stitch an experiment in sheer haberdashery style ecstasy. Yeah, it looks really great. (the suit, not the buttocks, --------well------- those too.)

[Taylor]

Alright guys, I am EXHAUSTED! I've pulled a marathon couple of nights in order to finish my costume. I know that there's been a lot of excitement over a "Ben Reilly" style costume, so I decided to mix that look with the traditional comic book look. I used the spider pattern from the Reilly costume and the colors and webbing from the traditional comic look. I know that we have some very talented suit makers on the board, and my intention is certainly not to "Show anyone up". It's a labor of love, and I hope that you wont use the incredible amount of time and effort that went into my costume as a reason to find fault and shortcomings with your own work. You'll be there too someday. You have to crawl before you can run. :oldrazz:
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/exlaian/Spider%20Man%20Boot/NakedSpidey3.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/exlaian/Spider%20Man%20Boot/NakedSpidey2.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/exlaian/Spider%20Man%20Boot/NakedSpidey4.jpg


P.S. Peter Parker, I MAY be putting this one up on eBay if you're interested. I promise to honor the winning bid no matter what the price, so bid without fear, and BID TO WIN!!!!!

[Gundam]

I Don't Know much, other than 2+2=3 lol but I guarantee Spidey4fun
has a great suit, even if he has it in the Shadows.

Hey guys my spider auction is up on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270231115480&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem

Thats the best price i have seen for a back spider:wow:

[peter_parker]

Taylor, you really have too much time on your hands.

If you did put that suit on eBay you'd probably offer to help with the fitting, so I wouldn't be bidding.

Do you think the guy in those pics was a clown that lost a bet, or ????

I guess I should get over my complex about being a grown man wearing spandex in public after viewing those pics. :hehe:

[spidey4fun]

Nice job on the back spider. Again.. if yours is Movie accurate...so must mine be. Almost looks like it came from the same mold as mine.

Here's mine....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Spiders/DSC05183.jpg

And yours....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Spiders/e82f_1.jpg

And both together....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Spiders/BackSpiderAmazing.jpg

That is so amazing!! Two guys at opposite ends of the planet would design a spider so close it even appears to have the same imperfections.

Brad.

[spidey4fun]

If you guys had SOOOO many spiders made... I'd imagine they'd cost..what $1 each from the manufacturer? You've got quantities in the hundreds. Are they made in the USA or China...LOL.? And if they are exactly the same as mine which they appear to be... as I dont particularly like playing in Urethane can you do me a deal on some back spiders? I'll still need to do the chest spider myself to get the metal grey top!!

[spideyfan27]

There is a slight difference Brad, your spider legs are very pointy ours are stubbed a little.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/842/backspiderbradpm6.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8339/ss1redty2.jpg


If you guys had SOOOO many spiders made... I'd imagine they'd cost..what $1 each from the manufacturer? You've got quantities in the hundreds. Are they made in the USA or China...LOL.? And if they are exactly the same as mine which they appear to be... as I dont particularly like playing in Urethane can you do me a deal on some back spiders? I'll still need to do the chest spider myself to get the metal grey top!!

[spidey4fun]

But it's the same size? Before making mine I was using others... but they were too big. Im my opinion anyway.

[nameless_hero]

Looks a little too similar to me, eh Brad?

[Taylor]

Since there is no way to settle this dispute since Spideyfan27 can't prove that he didn't copy Brad's work, and Brad can't prove that he DID copy it, I have used my Solomon like wisdom to come up with a solution. I will cut off one hand from EACH of you. (Actually guys it would really help me out if you could maybe just cut one off yourselves and just mail it to me. You know, what with airfare being what it is and all. I mean hell, Brad, you live in Australia for gods sake. It would cost me thousands, not to mention the time off of work. I would sooooo appreciate it. Maybe I could chip in for shipping or something. Get with me. We'll work it out.)
I HAVE SPOKEN!

[megafrost507]

I don't wish to defend or accuse anyone or anything, but there's something I'd like to mention because it seems nobody has said it at any point.

I witnessed an EXTREMELY similar situation in another costume forum I'm a part of, and there was a lot of accusation going on about recasting because two prop helmets looked practically identical to the point where two propmakers were accused of copying each other.

In the middle of the argument a fellow board member ended up purchasing 1 helmet from each and apon making a live comparison determined that both helmets were pretty much identical, yet made by two different people without copying from each other. Why? Because both propmakers were trying to make the best prop possible to make it identical to the original prop they were trying to recreate.

Now, is it unfair for two propmakers to make the same prop look as close to a movie version as possible? I mean, as people get better and better with their skills they will eventually produce something that's pretty much identical to the movie prop, and if someone else reaches that point they'll have similar products. Doesn't mean anybody copied from anybody else.

Again, I'm not pointing fingers, I'm not defending, I'm not accusing. I'm just laying this idea out there as something to think about. Some of you might not agree with me, but that's just MY idea and MY opinion on the matter.

I do not wish to upset anybody with this.

[peter_parker]

I see your point megafrost. To avoid a possible run-in with Taylor, let me just say it appears we were both working on an all-over-body-paint costume at the same time. I will not accuse him of anything, but both of ours look very similar when applied to badly overweight and balding men. In my defense, I do not apply the paint directly to the overweight gentlemen as Taylor does. There is a big difference.

[batman22]

I don't wish to defend or accuse anyone or anything, but there's something I'd like to mention because it seems nobody has said it at any point.

I witnessed an EXTREMELY similar situation in another costume forum I'm a part of, and there was a lot of accusation going on about recasting because two prop helmets looked practically identical to the point where two propmakers were accused of copying each other.

In the middle of the argument a fellow board member ended up purchasing 1 helmet from each and apon making a live comparison determined that both helmets were pretty much identical, yet made by two different people without copying from each other. Why? Because both propmakers were trying to make the best prop possible to make it identical to the original prop they were trying to recreate.

Now, is it unfair for two propmakers to make the same prop look as close to a movie version as possible? I mean, as people get better and better with their skills they will eventually produce something that's pretty much identical to the movie prop, and if someone else reaches that point they'll have similar products. Doesn't mean anybody copied from anybody else.

Again, I'm not pointing fingers, I'm not defending, I'm not accusing. I'm just laying this idea out there as something to think about. Some of you might not agree with me, but that's just MY idea and MY opinion on the matter.

I do not wish to upset anybody with this.

I totally agree with you. THe level of craftsman ship here in this forum is crazy good. SO while everyone thinks someone is copying the others lets not forget that none of this is original, nor our own idea. We are all copying an item that has already been made.

Sure we add our own touches to it, but all in all everyone here is a craftsman, and a good one at that.


As everyone gets better and evolves the costumes and props will look better and more the same.

[matthooper]

This isn't a dispute. Brad is the most honest seller and one of the most skilled suit makers around.

If he says the spider is his, than IT IS HIS. No dispute.

[Darth Takeo]

Brad is the most honest seller and one of the most skilled suit makers around.
Seconded.

[JESTER FX]

I have to agree we are all here trying to make the perfect movie accurate suit down to the last T so for the both of you to make the same identical looking spider is not uncommon. Brad you work is amazing I have never seen it in person but you def are a master of your craft and I feel you prob as of now have the best suit out there. And giving the fact that I also make the same suit that says something because I will always give credit where credit is due. But as far as the spiders mike is making me and him have done so much research on having things made in china for various costumes and costume pieces we have planed that he does not need to recast your work nor would I let him if he had the idea. Being an artiest I know what its like to have your work recast. It happens there is no way around it just look at some of the film props we all have. All you need is a flat pic of your spiders and a steady hand with a sculpting tool or a good cad guy and you have the same thing.

[Taylor]

I do not wish to upset anybody with this.

Dammit Megafrost! You HAVE upset me with your incredibly sane and rational argument. How DARE you try to make a very valid and sensible point when you KNOW full well that we prefer to rule by emotion and mob mentality. STOP trying to quell things with your ridiculously simple, straight-forward message. (Not to mention the fact that I'm TRYING to work on a freaking hand collection here. I ALMOST had my first two, but now I might not get them thanks to YOU!):cmad:

P.S. Peter Parker, for the LAST TIME, I do NOT apply body paint to overweight, old men. As I explained before, Thats ME in the picture. I had a bunch of overweight old men apply it TO ME!!!!!! (We all belong to a club.)

[peter_parker]

I never mentioned the men being old, Taylor.... I think those paint fumes are getting to you. If not the fumes, the dye is entering your body through your lymphs.

[peter_parker]

All you need is a flat pic of your spiders and a steady hand with a sculpting tool or a good cad guy and you have the same thing.


To back up this statement by Jester FX, I have read about some machines out there where it is easy to do just what Jester is saying.... put in a flat picture or even a 3-d computer file and out pops a nice product. A very easy process (relatively) and with some minor adjustments can produce quality items.

[inkmonkey]

It is infinitely disappointing to see what was once a very cool thread degrade to the point of the discussion looking like it belongs more on a high school boy's myspace page. There USED to be some cool suit makers that hung out here. Sadly Brad is the only one left.

[Taylor]

Oooooooohh, Ooooohh, Inkmonkey, what about me? I'm cool. Didn't you see MY suit? I'm wicked, awesome cool. I'll just assume that your lack of mention was an oversite. Peter Parker is cool too, but cool in an uncool way. You know, like in that alternate universe in Star Trek where everything was backwards. (He keeps telling me that he will help me "manipulate" my lymph nodes. I don't know what that means, but he seems pretty worked up about it.)

[SpidermanC]

It is infinitely disappointing to see what was once a very cool thread degrade to the point of the discussion looking like it belongs more on a high school boy's myspace page. There USED to be some cool suit makers that hung out here. Sadly Brad is the only one left.

I agree with the myspace comment.

I'm working on some new stuff, so maybe that'll bring the forum round.:woot:

[spidey2001]

Aren’t both of these spiders inaccurate anyway?


How about we try figure out those 100 different changes to the first spidey costume made back in 2001 that James Acheson. YES James Acheson, Paul Spadone and many others made in 2004 for the second film.


James Acheson who is currently designing for "the Laundry warrior" 2008, courtesy of goggle,


A few months back I found it incredible that not one person here felt that to be interesting topic and especially in light of the occasional rift that always happens to take the heat off of things.

This thread is called "making the perfect spidey costume" which surfaced around the time the first movie came out so I’m taking a wild guess that Mike, ITS CREATOR- envisioned the movie version to be classed as perfect.


As one of the most famous threads on the internet and with spidey being one of the most famous franchises, lets stop this bull rap cos you all sound like idiots from one view or another.

Maybe even me because I am taking the time to right this Stuff,

[spideyfan27]

I am not going to keep adding fuel to this fire. All I ask is our customers be the Judge.
I could say anything Bad towards anything, I love this hobby and I know you members of the board do to in some way or another. I come in peace lol.
We do not have to like each other, just co-exist with each other. In the meantime how about these? Now where did they come from?

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8228/framesmovie2xs1.jpg


http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6030/framesmovieuq1.jpg



Thank you,

Ernie


But it's the same size? Before making mine I was using others... but they were too big. Im my opinion anyway.

[spidey2001]

"With Great Power there must also come Great Responsibility"

LETS ALL SAY IT AND REJOICE IN UNITY!

[spidey2001]

"With Great Power there must also come Great Responsibility"

[spideyfan27]

I had an actual spider from spidey 1. I have proof of that.

I gave it to Taylor. it was a lot smaller than the other front ones.

Aren’t both of these spiders inaccurate anyway?


How about we try figure out those 100 different changes to the first spidey costume made back in 2001 that James Acheson. YES James Acheson, Paul Spadone and many others made in 2004 for the second film.


James Acheson who is currently designing for "the Laundry warrior" 2008, courtesy of goggle,


A few months back I found it incredible that not one person here felt that to be interesting topic and especially in light of the occasional rift that always happens to take the heat off of things.

This thread is called "making the perfect spidey costume" which surfaced around the time the first movie came out so I’m taking a wild guess that Mike, ITS CREATOR- envisioned the movie version to be classed as perfect.


As one of the most famous threads on the internet and with spidey being one of the most famous franchises, lets stop this bull rap cos you all sound like idiots from one view or another.

Maybe even me because I am taking the time to right this Stuff,

[Taylor]

I posted pics of it. It was really beautiful. Still smells like Toby. It is smaller too. If only I had something else small that I could put next to it in order to give it scale. Hmmmmmmmm, what do I have that's really small? I'll think of something.

[JESTER FX]

I know I am very new to posting on this board but Spidey2001 is correct we all need to back off each other a little bit. This sight was created to show and help spiderman fans make the best possible movie accurate suit that they can have and all ee are doing laity is bickering like little school kids. Everyone on this board has talent in one way or another to offer to the community. And by calling people scammers and recasters and every other name in the book it is bringing down the moral. Spidey2001 is right anyone who makes anything related to a character that they did not create them self really has no right to complain weather you made the piece that is being recast or not because it is not you licensed property. We all need to remember that because unless you are paying soney and marvel lots of money to sell spiderman crap we all are doing things that are illegal if anyone but you has the recast item in question.

[spideyfan27]

Does anyone like these? (lol)

Does anyone have anything against these?http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6030/framesmovieuq1.jpghttp://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8228/framesmovie2xs1.jpg

[Taylor]

Everyone on this board has talent in one way or another to offer to the community. .

I agree with you for the most part JesterFX, however I'm afraid that I'm going to have to beg to differ with you on this point. I'm relatively sure that as far as I can tell, I have no discernable talent or anything to offer the board aside from my incredibly snappy banter, and witty reparte'. I guess I yell at Orlando Spider sometimes, (although I'm not sure that technically that would qualify as a "talent"). I DO take the time to respond to Peter Parkers relatively long and flowery love letters he often P.M.s me, but I really do that more out of pity (I think he's a shut-in. His letters always smell like pizza grease, even the e-mails! How weird is that?). But that's not really a talent either, as much as it is charity and giving back to the general community, not this one specifically. Nope, no talent here.

[JESTER FX]

nice farmes ernie they look a lot like the ones i make i hope you didnt recast them lol :hehe:

[spideyfan27]

I would never do anything like that all tho yours does look nice (lol) I will send you the movie molds in a few days.


nice farmes ernie they look a lot like the ones i make i hope you didnt recast them lol :hehe:

[JESTER FX]

thanks man cant waight to get the mold and start casting them up for you

[JESTER FX]

I’m selling spider’s webbings and frames dirt cheap on ebay listing started at .99 !!!!!

since mike ordered way to many spiders and I have a lot more time on my hands and just moved into a bigger studio we decided that we would do a major blow out of out inventory. So we are pretty much just giving them away so check out my listing and bid with confidance. Also remember we have more than one set if you have any questions feel free to pm me

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190217225563&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=009

[spideyfan27]

I wish I could afford to do that!!!

I’m selling spider’s webbings and frames dirt cheap on ebay listing started at .99 !!!!!

since mike ordered way to many spiders and I have a lot more time on my hands and just moved into a bigger studio we decided that we would do a major blow out of out inventory. So we are pretty much just giving them away so check out my listing and bid with confidance. Also remember we have more than one set if you have any questions feel free to pm me

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190217225563&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=009

[matthooper]

I posted pics of it. It was really beautiful. Still smells like Toby. It is smaller too. If only I had something else small that I could put next to it in order to give it scale. Hmmmmmmmm, what do I have that's really small? I'll think of something.

The only screen used pieces ever sold to the public were sold by Sony/Hollywood Vault on ebay. The only spiders were from those auctions. One center chest piece from Spider-Man 1 that sold for $18,000, one center chest piece from Spider-Man 2 which sold for $8,000, and the recent Spider-Man 3 pieces including the chest pieces from both red and black suits. No screen used pieces were ever sold or given to the public. Also, the same goes for the back spiders, 1 sold from part 1, 1 sold from part 2, and a couple from part 3.

If anyone claims to have a screen used piece not originally sold by Sony/Hollywood vault, they are lying, it's fake, or it's stolen.

My firm handled some stuff for an accouting firm that dealt with the auctions. Absolutley no screen used pieces other than the Hollywoodvault Sony pieces exist.

[SpidermanC]

The only screen used pieces ever sold to the public were sold by Sony/Hollywood Vault on ebay. The only spiders were from those auctions. One center chest piece from Spider-Man 1 that sold for $18,000, one center chest piece from Spider-Man 2 which sold for $8,000, and the recent Spider-Man 3 pieces including the chest pieces from both red and black suits. No screen used pieces were ever sold or given to the public. Also, the same goes for the back spiders, 1 sold from part 1, 1 sold from part 2, and a couple from part 3.

If anyone claims to have a screen used piece not originally sold by Sony/Hollywood vault, they are lying, it's fake, or it's stolen.

My firm handled some stuff for an accouting firm that dealt with the auctions. Absolutley no screen used pieces other than the Hollywoodvault Sony pieces exist.

Always been curious..Is the stuff actually "screen used" or just had the possibility of being used in the movie..Seems like you might know? :oldrazz:

[spideyfan27]

Good one man So you are saying Sony is the only one on the planet or around the galaxy who has this stuff
They had to get it somewhere dufas. Or I got it IT COULD HAVE BEEN EXTRA TERRESTRIAL. LOL HOW ABOUT THIS THERE MATT IS THIS SCREEN ACCURATE YOU SEEM TO BE A GENIUS.
LOOKS THE SAME TO ME.



The only screen used pieces ever sold to the public were sold by Sony/Hollywood Vault on ebay. The only spiders were from those auctions. One center chest piece from Spider-Man 1 that sold for $18,000, one center chest piece from Spider-Man 2 which sold for $8,000, and the recent Spider-Man 3 pieces including the chest pieces from both red and black suits. No screen used pieces were ever sold or given to the public. Also, the same goes for the back spiders, 1 sold from part 1, 1 sold from part 2, and a couple from part 3.

If anyone claims to have a screen used piece not originally sold by Sony/Hollywood vault, they are lying, it's fake, or it's stolen.

My firm handled some stuff for an accouting firm that dealt with the auctions. Absolutley no screen used pieces other than the Hollywoodvault Sony pieces exist.http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5475/movietype3fk9.jpghttp://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1368/setpicsjuly32spidey2gp4.jpg

[Taylor]

NO ONE said ANYTHING about either "screen used" or "sold". The only thing said was that it was "from the first movie". If you MUST know, it was a replacement piece (one of MANY) that were kept on hand in case something was damaged during filming. It was obtained by someone working on set and given as a gift. In future please try to actually READ and UNDERSTAND the claims being made before you begin your kneejerk refutations. That is all.

[spideyfan27]

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1724/comiclookframeszx3.jpg


Heres some comic cartoon frame look.
with the movie style frames with the accurate movie lens material.

interested in getting a set pm me (and remember its not Entertainment unless its Total Knockout Entertainment).

Thank you,
Ernie

[Taylor]

Beauty!! Two snaps for you.

[spideyfan27]

Hey Brad have you ever re casted anyones stuff and used it for yours? Hey matt how did you get the cool looking bold letters and underlining
letters, lol oh I see now never mind. Is this real Matt? I need to know since your firm represented another firm who represented another firm who represented another firm who finally ended up representing Moses. lol Man you need to check your connections. You can go ahead and say it here I'll help you (Its not Entertainment unless its Total Knockout Entertainment) Thank you. SINCE YOU ARE A LAWYER I think you know (CASE CLOSED).



http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8030/movietype3samplebx8.jpg



This isn't a dispute. Brad is the most honest seller and one of the most skilled suit makers around.

If he says the spider is his, than IT IS HIS. No dispute.

[spideyfan27]

Here at Total Knockout Entertainment we treasure each and every person and to show that we are going to offer a special deal Ladies and Gentleman for a limited time we are going to please everyone who is out of shape lol not me of course but everyone else. Interested in our very cheap special deal pm me. GUARANTEED!!! (And remember its not Entertainment unless its Total Knockout Entertainment). (I should have been a car salesman). lol lmao.

Thank you.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/636/musclesidesuithx3.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7645/musclefrontsuitlu9.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/436/musclebacksuityh4.jpg

[spidey4fun]

Hey Brad have you ever re casted anyones stuff and used it for yours?

Now that is an excellent question!!. I made my spiders...obviously. .. In a CAD program using lot's n lots of drawings to get the shape. I scaled it to fit my suit... not a Movie scale suit. Im 6 foot tall... so little spiders wouldnt look right. And they have a few little imperfections.. which make them uniquely mine in design. My webbing, again made in CAD and cut on a milling machine. I watched every piece getting cut over 3 days and spent some pretty big $$ getting it done. The aluminum alone was $600. Labor costs for most machinists is around $100 per hour. My very first pattern was from Ebay..originally from TK-Comics, then I made my own as TK was missing way too many bricks.. But more recently a guy in Japan by the name of Shintaro sent my a copy of a pattern with a more accurate blue brickwork and muscle def. and he give me his permission to use it. Where he obtained it...dont know. Maybe Spiderwear. He (Spiderwear) was on the boards way back before anyone else had the pattern...apart from Nayef and Ollie. Nice guy....he's PM me a few times.

But I wasnt happy the quality of the red in large parts of Spiderwears pattern so I re-made a fair portion of it. The bricks on the head for example had almost faded out completly so I corrected that and a few other little problems with the blue. I'd say 40% was re-made at a guess.

Shintaro is quite the spidey fan. Here's a picture of him in one the first Ollie suits. He's actually got quite the collection of Original Spider Movie stuff. He's emailed me some very LARGE files in the past... not so good for the download limit but excellent reference material.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/ollie.jpg

For my frames I was originally getting my supplies from Kris at Hells Kitchen who obtained his frames off Xeno... that is till Fett and I sort of became mates. I did some stuff for him and he did some stuff for me. One of the things he did for me was to make me a frames mold and send over the original resin frames he cast me with the mold. So all my original frames came from Fetts mold. When my frames mold died I made another mold using the resin frames he provided. Fett even provided detailed instructions on how to make a new mold. I did however make some changes to Fetts resin frames. I added about 2mm of resin to the back of the frames, filled in all the holes, then sanded it back nice and flat. Glues to the suit better that way.

So...back to the question. Have you ever re casted anyones stuff and used it for yours? Yes... Fetts frames but with his permission....and instructions. Where did Fett get his frames....you'll need to ask him. Hell.. he's got SOOO much talent he probably made them himself. But on everything else I make... No. I've created it all myself and where I have used others material I've always asked permission.


Update on Fett... for those interested. He's been making some kickass stuff recently. Here's his Ironman mask.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Ironman/Ironman.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Ironman/Ironman2.jpg

I was chatting to him last night. I asked him if was making these helmets for others and he gave a resounding "NO"...but added... apart from a few trusted friends. Me being one :woot: And he explained to me that after having his work re-casted (His Spidey Shell was re-casted) he's decided not to make the really cool stuff for the regular everyday costumers anymore. Doesnt want to risk it.. Like myself, he's of the opinion the re-casters are actually ruining this fun hobby as the truely creative guys with talent... like his.. are not making these cool items available anymore. These are his words "some people are just out to make money, and they dont care if they have to rip off someones work to do it."

Ollie had his webbing re-casted and as a result started only making full suits available. So the only webbing you could get for a while was a 2nd quality re-cast. Which I personally wouldnt use on principle.

Sure originals from the maker maybe a little more.. but on a good prop / costume you can spend weeks and weeks and weeks to get it right. And its a real slap in the face for the struggling sculptor who's trying to get into the business to have his stuff ripped off. I like to ask the question... who sculpted that..or did you create that? That way if I like it, I know who from and where to get it. I go out of my way to get it from the creator and void re-casters where possible.

Imagine if all the talented guys stop creating for the everyday costumer, who's going to create all the really cool stuff. The re-casters??? I doubt it... And Im sure you'd all agree with me.

Oh..Ernie... Nice looking lenses. I just ran out of my old mesh so I thought I get a few finer mesh samples. I like your source!! :)


Brad.

[Gundam]

To bad Ollie went rouge..... he was the best IMO I guess i will never see the suit he promised me:csad:, And fett's frames came from a stunt casting. I recall reading a thread on the RPF over a year ago between him and another member who i believe sent him the first mold for his lenses. That guy shared more INFO on the spidey movie suit in open fourm then i have seen on anywhere else.

Any shot of you sharing that spidey info with me brad? Doubtful i am sure:csad:

And spideyfan27 where did you pickup that mesh?

[spideyfan27]

Interesting question Gundam, To be honest I really don't know if its a mesh or not. Apparently My friend Knows Paul Spadone, it was kind of sent to me in the mail with instructions. (At first I was like Noway, Then I got a phone call). (lol) after that YES WAY!!!! I was so excited
It was like Christmas for me. And I have someone who can verify that Fetts Frames is Genuine.



To bad Ollie went rouge..... he was the best IMO I guess i will never see the suit he promised me:csad:, And fett's frames came from a stunt casting. I recall reading a thread on the RPF over a year ago between him and another member who i believe sent him the first mold for his lenses. That guy shared more INFO on the spidey movie suit in open fourm then i have seen on anywhere else.

Any shot of you sharing that spidey info with me brad? Doubtful i am sure:csad:

And spideyfan27 where did you pickup that mesh?

[spidey4fun]

Yep... Ollie's printing process has been the best to date that I've personally seen. And the material his suit were printed on was SO stretchy...it was great... he sent me a sample :) Before his troubles started.

Which info are you referring to? The pics Shintaro sent me?

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/finger.jpg

Fingers. They show the correct way the hands should be sewn. And what the strip of material was used for on the original pattern. I made 1 suit with hands like this. Took AGES..

The hand below was a 5 MB file when I got it.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/hand2.jpg

I think they might be pieces he owns.... but not 100% sure.


Brad.

[spideyfan27]

Hey Brad I'm going to put a few samples later up of my spiders they tend to be wider than yours. Everyone knows recasting its impossible to be bigger but some how a miracle happened and mine is wider. I will definitely know today what this material is.


[quote=spideyfan27;14631696]Hey Brad have you ever re casted anyones stuff and used it for yours?

Now that is an excellent question!!. I made my spiders...obviously. .. In a CAD program using lot's n lots of drawings to get the shape. I scaled it to fit my suit... not a Movie scale suit. Im 6 foot tall... so little spiders wouldnt look right. And they have a few little imperfections.. which make them uniquely mine in design. My webbing, again made in CAD and cut on a milling machine. I watched every piece getting cut over 3 days and spent some pretty big $$ getting it done. The aluminum alone was $600. Labor costs for most machinists is around $100 per hour. My very first pattern was from Ebay..originally from TK-Comics, then I made my own as TK was missing way too many bricks.. But more recently a guy in Japan by the name of Shintaro sent my a copy of a pattern with a more accurate blue brickwork and muscle def. and he give me his permission to use it. Where he obtained it...dont know. Maybe Spiderwear. He (Spiderwear) was on the boards way back before anyone else had the pattern...apart from Nayef and Ollie. Nice guy....he's PM me a few times.

But I wasnt happy the quality of the red in large parts of Spiderwears pattern so I re-made a fair portion of it. The bricks on the head for example had almost faded out completly so I corrected that and a few other little problems with the blue. I'd say 40% was re-made at a guess.

Shintaro is quite the spidey fan. Here's a picture of him in one the first Ollie suits. He's actually got quite the collection of Original Spider Movie stuff. He's emailed me some very LARGE files in the past... not so good for the download limit but excellent reference material.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/ollie.jpg

For my frames I was originally getting my supplies from Kris at Hells Kitchen who obtained his frames off Xeno... that is till Fett and I sort of became mates. I did some stuff for him and he did some stuff for me. One of the things he did for me was to make me a frames mold and send over the original resin frames he cast me with the mold. So all my original frames came from Fetts mold. When my frames mold died I made another mold using the resin frames he provided. Fett even provided detailed instructions on how to make a new mold. I did however make some changes to Fetts resin frames. I added about 2mm of resin to the back of the frames, filled in all the holes, then sanded it back nice and flat. Glues to the suit better that way.

So...back to the question. Have you ever re casted anyones stuff and used it for yours? Yes... Fetts frames but with his permission....and instructions. Where did Fett get his frames....you'll need to ask him. Hell.. he's got SOOO much talent he probably made them himself. But on everything else I make... No. I've created it all myself and where I have used others material I've always asked permission.


Update on Fett... for those interested. He's been making some kickass stuff recently. Here's his Ironman mask.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Ironman/Ironman.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Ironman/Ironman2.jpg

I was chatting to him last night. I asked him if was making these helmets for others and he gave a resounding "NO"...but added... apart from a few trusted friends. Me being one :woot: And he explained to me that after having his work re-casted (His Spidey Shell was re-casted) he's decided not to make the really cool stuff for the regular everyday costumers anymore. Doesnt want to risk it.. Like myself, he's of the opinion the re-casters are actually ruining this fun hobby as the truely creative guys with talent... like his.. are not making these cool items available anymore. These are his words "some people are just out to make money, and they dont care if they have to rip off someones work to do it."

Ollie had his webbing re-casted and as a result started only making full suits available. So the only webbing you could get for a while was a 2nd quality re-cast. Which I personally wouldnt use on principle.

Sure originals from the maker maybe a little more.. but on a good prop / costume you can spend weeks and weeks and weeks to get it right. And its a real slap in the face for the struggling sculptor who's trying to get into the business to have his stuff ripped off. I like to ask the question... who sculpted that..or did you create that? That way if I like it, I know who from and where to get it. I go out of my way to get it from the creator and void re-casters where possible.

Imagine if all the talented guys stop creating for the everyday costumer, who's going to create all the really cool stuff. The re-casters??? I doubt it... And Im sure you'd all agree with me.

Oh..Ernie... Nice looking lenses. I just ran out of my old mesh so I thought I get a few finer mesh samples. I like your source!! :)


Brad.

[spideyfan27]

Hey Brad is that glove suppose to be movie accurate?

Yep... Ollie's printing process has been the best to date that I've personally seen. And the material his suit were printed on was SO stretchy...it was great... he sent me a sample :) Before his troubles started.

Which info are you referring to? The pics Shintaro sent me?

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/finger.jpg

Fingers. They show the correct way the hands should be sewn. And what the strip of material was used for on the original pattern. I made 1 suit with hands like this. Took AGES..

The hand below was a 5 MB file when I got it.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/hand2.jpg

I think they might be pieces he owns.... but not 100% sure.


Brad.

[spidey4fun]

Hey Brad I'm going to put a few samples later up of my spiders they tend to be wider than yours. Everyone knows recasting its impossible to be bigger but some how a miracle happened and mine is wider. I will definitely know today what this material is.


No need...you said you didnt...so you didnt. But you did ask about re-casting. So I gave my opinion.

Is the glove movie accurate?? Who knows.. Shintaro sent me the picture and it seemed to explain the strip of material that was on the TK-Comics pattern.

Brad.

[spidey4fun]

Hmm... i wonder why my Quote is doing that?.. ahh..that fixed it.

[spidey4fun]

..:)

[spideyfan27]

Reason is I have a shot from the making showing the actual glove. That glove is no where near accurate.

Hey Brad is that glove suppose to be movie accurate?

[spidey4fun]

Reason is I have a shot from the making showing the actual glove. That glove is no where near accurate.

From which movie? Im fairly sure they have made subtle changes to the way they made the suits over the 3 movies. The webbing on that suit does to my eyes look like foam latex which is what they made the webbing from. I've not seen anyone in the costuming game do that yet.

Brad.

[spideyfan27]

Hey Peter Parker your stuff has been shipped. Thanks Pal

[spideyfan27]

The shot is from spidey 2 same as 3 The webbing on the fingers is different I'll post some pics.

From which movie? Im fairly sure they have made subtle changes to the way they made the suits over the 3 movies. The webbing on that suit does to my eyes look like foam latex which is what they made the webbing from. I've not seen anyone in the costuming game do that yet.

Brad.

[spidey4fun]

The shot is from spidey 2 same as 3 The webbing on the fingers is different I'll post some pics.

Cool. The date in the properties of the hand photo says August 05. Maybe that's from Spidey 1... hell im not sure even Ollie had webbing back then.

[spideyfan27]

Here is the movie glove compare.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/516/moviegloveopenzt0.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6439/movieglovebackei8.jpg






[quote=spidey4fun;14633308]Cool. The date in the properties of the hand photo says August 05. Maybe that's from Spidey 1... hell im not sure even Ollie had webbing back then.

[spidey4fun]

It's too hard to look back a page...

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/hand2.jpg

Makes it a little easier. :)

[spidey4fun]

Looks pretty close to me. The stitching in the fingers seems to be the same. Remember.. one is stretched the other not. It might be the real thing. I remember these peices were sold on Ebay a few years back.

[spideyfan27]

look at the pinky finger. theres an extra ring check that out

Looks pretty close to me. The stitching in the fingers seems to be the same. Remember.. one is stretched the other not. It might be the real thing. I remember these peices were sold on Ebay a few years back.

[spidey4fun]

I count 5 on both... What do you see?

[spideyfan27]

I see a cow with a cigar, too much coffee. lol

I count 5 on both... What do you see?

[Gundam]

From which movie? Im fairly sure they have made subtle changes to the way they made the suits over the 3 movies. The webbing on that suit does to my eyes look like foam latex which is what they made the webbing from. I've not seen anyone in the costuming game do that yet.

Brad.

Brad is right the muscle suits also changed threw each film.

[Gundam]

Yep... Ollie's printing process has been the best to date that I've personally seen. And the material his suit were printed on was SO stretchy...it was great... he sent me a sample :) Before his troubles started.

Which info are you referring to? The pics Shintaro sent me?

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/finger.jpg

Fingers. They show the correct way the hands should be sewn. And what the strip of material was used for on the original pattern. I made 1 suit with hands like this. Took AGES..

The hand below was a 5 MB file when I got it.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/hand2.jpg

I think they might be pieces he owns.... but not 100% sure.


Brad.

Btw i think i have seen these pictures before.

[spideyfan27]

Hello Board me and Spidey4fun are calling A truths no more war. Right Brad?

[spidey4fun]

Was there a war? I thought it was very interesting reading..lol.

[spideyfan27]

we could have sold tickets. saying let my spiders go. lol


Was there a war? I thought it was very interesting reading..lol.

[spidey4fun]

A few pages back someone posted the comment.... this board is dead. I think not!!

[Orlando Spider]

From which movie? Im fairly sure they have made subtle changes to the way they made the suits over the 3 movies. The webbing on that suit does to my eyes look like foam latex which is what they made the webbing from. I've not seen anyone in the costuming game do that yet.

Brad.
When the bob's made their suit didn't they make theirs out of foam latex?

They're one of the only prop/costume makers I know that have an oven to actually bake the stuff....

[spidey4fun]

When the bob's made their suit didn't they make theirs out of foam latex?

They're one of the only prop/costume makers I know that have an oven to actually bake the stuff....


Yeah they do.. his batman stuff is amazing so they might have. But I think I recall Bob D saying Bob C cut all the molds by hand. So if Bob C's hand was steady enough to make molds to product that webbing.....just whow... The curves look a little too perfect... but still not impossible.

[Taylor]

T'was I who posted that comment in an effort to galvanize you all back into action. I DEMAND full credit. :)

[Gundam]

Yeah they do.. his batman stuff is amazing so they might have. But I think I recall Bob D saying Bob C cut all the molds by hand. So if Bob C's hand was steady enough to make molds to product that webbing.....just whow... The curves look a little too perfect... but still not impossible.

When did they do spidey webbing!!

[spidey4fun]

T'was I who posted that comment in an effort to galvanize you all back into action. I DEMAND full credit. :)


Taylor... your words.. "This board is dead" were truely inspirational ;)

Here's a pic of Dullam-Causey's Spidey..

[spidey4fun]

opps .. forgot the picture..

http://www.dullam-causey.com/gallery/streamimage.php?path=L1NwaWRlcm1hbi9zcGlkZXJtYW4ua nBn

I did have a better picture somewhere... but cant find it.

[Gundam]

opps .. forgot the picture..

http://www.dullam-causey.com/gallery/streamimage.php?path=L1NwaWRlcm1hbi9zcGlkZXJtYW4ua nBn

I did have a better picture somewhere... but cant find it.

How the hell did i miss this!:wow: eyes a lil far apart but still impressive

[fettster]

Now that is an excellent question!!. I made my spiders...obviously. .. In a CAD program using lot's n lots of drawings to get the shape. I scaled it to fit my suit... not a Movie scale suit. Im 6 foot tall... so little spiders wouldnt look right. And they have a few little imperfections.. which make them uniquely mine in design. My webbing, again made in CAD and cut on a milling machine. I watched every piece getting cut over 3 days and spent some pretty big $$ getting it done. The aluminum alone was $600. Labor costs for most machinists is around $100 per hour. My very first pattern was from Ebay..originally from TK-Comics, then I made my own as TK was missing way too many bricks.. But more recently a guy in Japan by the name of Shintaro sent my a copy of a pattern with a more accurate blue brickwork and muscle def. and he give me his permission to use it. Where he obtained it...dont know. Maybe Spiderwear. He (Spiderwear) was on the boards way back before anyone else had the pattern...apart from Nayef and Ollie. Nice guy....he's PM me a few times.

But I wasnt happy the quality of the red in large parts of Spiderwears pattern so I re-made a fair portion of it. The bricks on the head for example had almost faded out completly so I corrected that and a few other little problems with the blue. I'd say 40% was re-made at a guess.

Shintaro is quite the spidey fan. Here's a picture of him in one the first Ollie suits. He's actually got quite the collection of Original Spider Movie stuff. He's emailed me some very LARGE files in the past... not so good for the download limit but excellent reference material.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/ollie.jpg

For my frames I was originally getting my supplies from Kris at Hells Kitchen who obtained his frames off Xeno... that is till Fett and I sort of became mates. I did some stuff for him and he did some stuff for me. One of the things he did for me was to make me a frames mold and send over the original resin frames he cast me with the mold. So all my original frames came from Fetts mold. When my frames mold died I made another mold using the resin frames he provided. Fett even provided detailed instructions on how to make a new mold. I did however make some changes to Fetts resin frames. I added about 2mm of resin to the back of the frames, filled in all the holes, then sanded it back nice and flat. Glues to the suit better that way.

So...back to the question. Have you ever re casted anyones stuff and used it for yours? Yes... Fetts frames but with his permission....and instructions. Where did Fett get his frames....you'll need to ask him. Hell.. he's got SOOO much talent he probably made them himself. But on everything else I make... No. I've created it all myself and where I have used others material I've always asked permission.


Update on Fett... for those interested. He's been making some kickass stuff recently. Here's his Ironman mask.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Ironman/Ironman.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Ironman/Ironman2.jpg

I was chatting to him last night. I asked him if was making these helmets for others and he gave a resounding "NO"...but added... apart from a few trusted friends. Me being one :woot: And he explained to me that after having his work re-casted (His Spidey Shell was re-casted) he's decided not to make the really cool stuff for the regular everyday costumers anymore. Doesnt want to risk it.. Like myself, he's of the opinion the re-casters are actually ruining this fun hobby as the truely creative guys with talent... like his.. are not making these cool items available anymore. These are his words "some people are just out to make money, and they dont care if they have to rip off someones work to do it."

Ollie had his webbing re-casted and as a result started only making full suits available. So the only webbing you could get for a while was a 2nd quality re-cast. Which I personally wouldnt use on principle.

Sure originals from the maker maybe a little more.. but on a good prop / costume you can spend weeks and weeks and weeks to get it right. And its a real slap in the face for the struggling sculptor who's trying to get into the business to have his stuff ripped off. I like to ask the question... who sculpted that..or did you create that? That way if I like it, I know who from and where to get it. I go out of my way to get it from the creator and void re-casters where possible.

Imagine if all the talented guys stop creating for the everyday costumer, who's going to create all the really cool stuff. The re-casters??? I doubt it... And Im sure you'd all agree with me.

Oh..Ernie... Nice looking lenses. I just ran out of my old mesh so I thought I get a few finer mesh samples. I like your source!! :)


Brad.

Hi all.

long time away!

I see a fair few new users here who wont know me so i dont know how much "weight" i still carry around here.

I just wanted to give my opinion about the whole re-casting issue as Brad and I have been talking and its something we both feel passionate about.

In a nutshell, recasting another artists work is wrong, plain and simple.
Obviously no one hear has any legal right to produce any of this stuff but you would do well to remember that you would all be running round in crappy lycra suits designed for kids if a few talented artists didnt get off their ass and invest their time,skill and resources into producing something better.

by those artists doing that, they have every right to call the work their own, true they dont own the image rights but its their creation and should be respected as such.

anyone who takes that artists work and pours rubber over it to make a quick buck is im my opinion, Scum pure and simple.

and just to cover the other side of the fence, heres the hipocritical part.......... recasting has its uses and can benefit this old hobby of ours and heres how.

If someone didnt recast an original stormtrooper helmet, then none of the collectors out there would have one, like wise with all screen used original movie stuff but there in it self is the distinction.

So, in summary original movie props made by the studions for the film they appeared in have to be recast in order for anyone to collect them however thats it. keep your grubby little recasting hands of the fan produced stuff (you know who you are).

I have been stung by recasters in the past, as Brad mentioned, i had my face shell recast and i know who did it too. I have had loads of other stuff ripped off too so now i just wont sell to anyone who i dont know or trust.

The more the fan made stuff gets recast, the less likely we are to sell it to the masses and therefore the less new stuff will be released.

Unfortunatly i have seen recasters on here and i know there are recasters on here now, its one of the reasons im not on here much anymore

sorry for the rant, back to the spidy suits

[Spider-Who?]

hey guys!

A couple weeks ago, i started asking around about a costume. Many of you were kind enough to reply - to that, i thank you!

Sadly, since then, things have gone terribly wrong. (A best friend was in a horrible car accident - actually flatlined on the helicopter, and two family members were diagnosed with cancer). Needless to say, things are messed up around here, so i havent been able to inquire further about a costume. That, and my pocket change dwindled drastically (you wouldnt believe how much gas it takes to go to 3 different hospitals 6 days a week, that and 2 of those hospitals make you PAY to PARK! What the hell?!?!)

But i digress. Any way, all things considered, my ability to get a costume is limited, and so i'm looking into simply getting a mask. I would like the mask to be as good as possible (print, webbing, lenses, etc). Who should I talk to about a good SM2 mask?

Thanks!

[nameless_hero]

Fett good to see you. Iron helmet looks amazing, like everything else you work on!

[matthooper]

Fett, your words do carry weight to the people who matter here. Those of us who know you and have delt with you, and know what's right and wrong.

Good to see you again.

[spideyfan27]

I wasn't going to come on here and do this but, I have to many pm messages calling me a fake or fraud, Even tho Brad agreed My spiders wasn't recasts. So heres the proof everyones been waiting for. We had to cut up a perfect spider to prove this point. Its a fact we have Peter Parkers suit which has Brads spiders on it. SO HERE IT IS

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6499/proof5pe6.jpghttp://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4360/proof4ol1.jpghttp://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7595/proof3cc6.jpghttp://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1269/proof2xi9.jpghttp://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8062/proof1lm5.jpg

I'm sorry but its the only way to clear our name.

our spiders are wider and beveled than brads, Everyone knows if you re cast it would be smaller. thank you. now lets get back to being friends.



Fett, your words do carry weight to the people who matter here. Those of us who know you and have delt with you, and know what's right and wrong.

Good to see you again.

[spidey4fun]

How the hell did i miss this!:wow: eyes a lil far apart but still impressive

Here's a bigger picture I was just sent..

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/Spiderman201.jpg


I thought I'd dig up a picture of Fetts frames. These where some of the first pair he made.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/Spidey4fun/Samples/FettsFrames.jpg

Brad.

[spidey4fun]

Nice comparison Ernie. The thing that blows me away is we both have the same lump in the right shoulder on the frist leg. See it?

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7595/proof3cc6.jpg

It's not EXACTLY the same but the similarities in curves, alterations in thickness on the legs, and basic size and structure, even minor flaws are so close it's uncanny!! But your comparison does show it not to be a re-cast. Not that I ever said it was. I was mearly pointing out how amazing close to spiders look in appearance.. both front and back. So if yours are Movie accurate...so are mine... LOL. Megafrost did point out two guys working toward perfect costume could indeed end up with the same final product.

So Ernie... you wanted a competition in making a spidey suit. How'd our spiders go in a 1 to 1 battle?? LOL. Dude... we're cool.

[spideyfan27]

I see that, but its not on the other leg of ours, I'm just trying to clear my name I'm getting blasted in my pms.

Thanks.

Nice comparison Ernie. The thing that blows me away is we both have the same lump in the right shoulder on the frist leg. See it?

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7595/proof3cc6.jpg

How's that for uncanny!!

[spideyfan27]

LOL Spidey4fun I would say it was dead even if you know what I mean lol. Besides we've always been cool


Nice comparison Ernie. The thing that blows me away is we both have the same lump in the right shoulder on the frist leg. See it?

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7595/proof3cc6.jpg

It's not EXACTLY the same but the similarities in curves, alterations in thickness on the legs, and basic size and structure, even minor flaws are so close it's uncanny!! But your comparison does show it not to be a re-cast. Not that I ever said it was. I was mearly pointing out how amazing close to spiders look in appearance.. both front and back. So if yours are Movie accurate...so are mine... LOL. Megafrost did point out two guys working toward perfect costume could indeed end up with the same final product.

So Ernie... you wanted a competition in making a spidey suit. How'd our spiders go in a 1 to 1 battle?? LOL. Dude... we're cool.

[spidey4fun]

Boys... dont PM him. We're cool.

[spideyfan27]

Thanks bro Brad you are still the man for now lol jk.

Boys... dont PM him. We're cool.

[spidey4fun]

I see that, but its not on the other leg of ours,

Thanks.

So you're saying your spiders are not symmetrical? LOL... dude... my spiders are better yours!!! :grin:...hehehehehehehehehehehehe...:woot:

[Crimson Spider]

hey gang. been awhile since i posted, but here's a question on webs. once you've glued them to your suit how do you make them appear seamless. i dont ever see spots on costumes where one section of webs ends and the next begins,

[spidey4fun]

hey gang. been awhile since i posted, but here's a question on webs. once you've glued them to your suit how do you make them appear seamless. i dont ever see spots on costumes where one section of webs ends and the next begins,


It's a real art. Very sharp scissors, ensure the cut on both ends of the webbing is identical and glue them together. Nothing special. Just very tedious.

[spideyfan27]

and may I add very time consuming. Ok Brad You win!!! I can't even spell symmetrical. lol

It's a real art. Very sharp scissors, ensure the cut on both ends of the webbing is identical and glue them together. Nothing special. Just very tedious.

[spidey4fun]

and may I add very time consuming. Ok Brad You win!!! I can't even spell symmetrical. lol

LOL.... Yay!!!

[spideyfan27]

I have bigger arms than you do lol we keep this up we will be on page 800 real fast!!!

LOL.... Yay!!!

[SpidermanC]

It's a real art. Very sharp scissors, ensure the cut on both ends of the webbing is identical and glue them together. Nothing special. Just very tedious.

I found it works the best if you cut them both to length, glue one end down, then put glue on the tip of it, put glue underneath the other side, and match the tips up first, then press down on the second side. If that makes sense?? Oh! and if you rotate your cut pattern ( first match do the right side shorter and left side longer, second one the left side is shorter than the right, then they are both equal length, then back to right side shorter etc..) so if you mess up a few it wont make a "obvious" or straight line down the webs LOL.

[SpidermanC]

I have bigger arms than you do lol we keep this up we will be on page 800 real fast!!!

You keep that up and well be on post 20,000 of a locked thread, and then all this information will disappear soon after. Go for it..?

[Taylor]

Fett, your words do carry weight to the people who matter here. Those of us who know you and have delt with you, and know what's right and wrong.

Good to see you again.

Uggghhh, Get a hold of yourself Matthooper. I think that you don't even realize how goofy you sound. You are like sooooo ready to move into Fettster or Brad's basement and wash their socks for them. You're a grown man for god sakes. It's too late to hope the football players will let you hang out with them if you bring them enough Gatorade and do their homework for them. You're getting to be almost as bad as Inkmonkey for crise-sake. (Almost!)

[spidey4fun]

Uggghhh, Get a hold of yourself Matthooper. I think that you don't even realize how goofy you sound. You are like sooooo ready to move into Fettster or Brad's basement and wash their socks for them. You're a grown man for god sakes. It's too late to hope the football players will let you hang out with them if you bring them enough Gatorade and do their homework for them. You're getting to be almost as bad as Inkmonkey for crise-sake. (Almost!)


Sorry... dont own a basement. :woot: And the little women is just fine at doing the washing......when I forget.:grin:

[spideyfan27]

I figured I would try something.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6229/blkeyesbx8.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1657/spiderman3setshotdanielzz2.jpg

[Taylor]

Well, Matthooper will be heart broken. Good for you though. Basements are a pain in the ass anyway. You're always having to go down there in the dark, and then some guy tells you that he'll give you candy if you just go into the "secret" room. "Just for a minute" he'll say, next thing you know you're shackled to a wall and your "new" name is Jasmine! You spend all day hand sewing little tiny Mexican "Pachinco" dolls for the tourists, and your only friend is a sullen cockroach that you've come to an uneasy truce with about sharing living space together (even though secretly you really don't like each other) ---------- Yeah, basements pretty much suck.

[spideyfan27]

and I thought I was pushy. Taylor remind me never to piss you off. lol


Well, Matthooper will be heart broken. Good for you though. Basements are a pain in the ass anyway. You're always having to up down there in the dark, and then some guy tells you that he'll give you candy if you just go into the "secret" room. "Just for a minute" he'll say, next thing you know you're shackled to a wall and your "new" name is Jasmine! You spend all day hand sewing little tiny Mexican "Pachinco" dolls for the tourists, and your only friend is a sullen cockroach that you've come to an uneasy truce with about sharing living space together (even though secretly you really don't like each other) ---------- Yeah, basements pretty much suck.

[Taylor]

You could never piss me off Ernie. (Unless you tell people that story about the webbing and the goat that I told you IN CONFIDENCE!) But other than that, Ill be your Huckleberry.

[SpidermanC]

Oh btw...The suit is still for sale, so shoot me a PM if your interested. :woot:

[spidey4fun]

You could never piss me off Ernie. (Unless you tell people that story about the webbing and the goat that I told you IN CONFIDENCE!) But other than that, Ill be your Huckleberry.

Perhaps you guys should get a room!!

[fettster]

Fett, your words do carry weight to the people who matter here. Those of us who know you and have delt with you, and know what's right and wrong.

Good to see you again.

thanks pal.

im gonna stick around awhile but just so everybody knows, im not making any spidy stuff so please dont ask.

[Taylor]

Perhaps you guys should get a room!!

We already have a room. A room deep inside my heart. There's room for you in there too Brad. You can even bring Mathooper if you want!!! Just make him wear some clean clothes. There's going to be Chicks there.

[Nfox]

thanks pal.

im gonna stick around awhile but just so everybody knows, im not making any spidy stuff so please dont ask.

I'm going to crawl out of the hole I've been lurking in, make this post, then probably crawl right back into my hole...

It's a shame that you're not making Spidey stuff anymore, but if that means we'll see fewer rip-offs of your stuff, I'm all for it. Your work was and is amazing. I can still remember how jazzed I felt when you first posted pics of your hand, errr, photoshop made patterns, then again when you posted pics of your lenses. I've made a few patterns of my own (The first batch lost to a computer virus, the second set to a hard drive failure...that'll teach me to backup), so I know how much work it takes to make one, but can only imagine how much work to took to create patterns and lenses as perfect as yours.

Due to all of the hard work involved in restarting patterns from scratch for a third time (Stupid computers), I've since put Spidey patterns on the back burner and have begun working towards making a Daft Punk helmet...In that process I have clicked through RPF and have simply been astonished by your work on your Iron Man costume. So, I'm glad to see that you still lurk around here a bit to add your positive/creative vibes.

If you didn't carry any weight around here, all we'd have to do is post a few pictures of your work, and BOOM you're right back to carrying weight.

I can't wait to see what you do next.

-Nick

[Brogz007]

In the not too distant future i'm going to get this black spidey mask sample screen printed. As far as i know it'll be the first proper fan-made black spidey costume (rubbery ink screen printed onto black lycra).
The actual tiff file, just for the mask is 300+mb!! cos i totally overdid the resolution on the single brick, so i don't like to think about the final suit file size, lol
Anyway, some eye candy...

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4495/blackmaskwebgn2.jpg

Every brick in there lines up perfectly with the red/blue suit btw

To set the screen print plates up costs a fortune but once done, printing many is quite cheap. I would love to print off 10 and know i could sell them to good homes, so any one who'd like to be notified about prices for masks/full suits (when i find out ofcourse) just PM me :yay:

[spidey4fun]

Very cool. How's the rest of the suit looking with muscle def?

[spideyfan27]

Hey Brogz Very nice!!! I Have these test samples now.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/379/testwebbingbeltjf2.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/358/testwebmaskut8.jpg


http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4484/tkoframesrj1.jpg


In the meantime how about these?

[spidey4fun]

Nice Ernie.. They look pretty good.... I think...but not sure. Can you get some clear pictures? Are they flat? Beveled? Do they vary in thickness? I know your aware of how they should look...but did they turn out right?

[spideyfan27]

So far the tests are very nice. I will post more as this project turns into a nice piece. Thanks Brad.

Nice Ernie.. They look pretty good.... I think...but not sure. Can you get some clear pictures? Are they flat? Beveled? Do they vary in thickness? I know your aware of how they should look...but did they turn out right?

[fettster]

they look pretty sharp brogz007.

pm me as i have a few ideas and leads for you!

Nfox, your suit pattern were awesome, i remember them well. its a shame you lost them

[Mati]

In the not too distant future i'm going to get this black spidey mask sample screen printed. As far as i know it'll be the first proper fan-made black spidey costume (rubbery ink screen printed onto black lycra).
The actual tiff file, just for the mask is 300+mb!! cos i totally overdid the resolution on the single brick, so i don't like to think about the final suit file size, lol
Anyway, some eye candy...

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4495/blackmaskwebgn2.jpg

Every brick in there lines up perfectly with the red/blue suit btw

To set the screen print plates up costs a fortune but once done, printing many is quite cheap. I would love to print off 10 and know i could sell them to good homes, so any one who'd like to be notified about prices for masks/full suits (when i find out ofcourse) just PM me :yay:



I'm in! It would be nice to get nice lenses and webbing too!:whatever:

[spideyfan27]

nice

[spideyfan27]

Here is another picture of the webbing sent from the shop.http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4681/webbingko1xl3.jpg

[SpiderManYetter]

How the hell did i miss this!:wow: eyes a lil far apart but still impressive


I remember that suit. I sewn it for Bobby!

[Alterego2]

Thought eveyone on this board would appreciate this.

Not mine.

The link is to a LOH thread

The Perfect Spidey "SUIT" !

Enjoy :woot:

http://theleagueofheroes.yuku.com/topic/3347/t/Hero-tatts.html

[spidey4fun]

I found this on Youtube.... you'll love it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvAcjd-fF18&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRhze-CEdcU&feature=related


Brad.

[Lunar_Wolf]

I found this on Youtube.... you'll love it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvAcjd-fF18&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRhze-CEdcU&feature=related


Brad.
lol good times

[Jack Ups]

Hey ive been lurking threw this thread for months now lol
I just have a pretty simple question,i have the delux spiderman comic costume that marvel releases,(no where near as gd as the ones on here, but i love the comic look so it does my needs lol)

And ive had it for awhile, i would just like idea's on how to make the eye's better, so that my eye's cant be seen a much, do you think adding another thin mesh underneath would help, or a complete sculpting eyes to go over them and then use metal mesh , or lenses , it it was the lenses i would try and go for the alex ross look, but again the eyes on the mask are pretty darn big, so white material mesh might be the way

just open to suggestions and idea's, and all are welcome

cheers guys

[spideyfan27]

Its all up to you on how you want it to look you can go the easy way, which they make this white fabric used in kitchens it has about 71% visibility, or you can go with a thin mesh. It just depends on how big of project you want.

Thank you,

Ernie

Hey ive been lurking threw this thread for months now lol
I just have a pretty simple question,i have the delux spiderman comic costume that marvel releases,(no where near as gd as the ones on here, but i love the comic look so it does my needs lol)

And ive had it for awhile, i would just like idea's on how to make the eye's better, so that my eye's cant be seen a much, do you think adding another thin mesh underneath would help, or a complete sculpting eyes to go over them and then use metal mesh , or lenses , it it was the lenses i would try and go for the alex ross look, but again the eyes on the mask are pretty darn big, so white material mesh might be the way

just open to suggestions and idea's, and all are welcome

cheers guys

[Jack Ups]

ugh well the easier the better lol the eyes on the suit that i would have to cover are pretty big.

plus its hard to see in its just in certain light( unlike your guys pics) i have some movie spidey eyes but due to them not fitting on the mask i want to just apply a second layer to the eyes to help stop the visibilty form the outside but still keep it ok to look out of . lol its will be daylight so ..
any products or things i can use would be pretty handy lol

[fettster]

wow, this board has really slowed down since i last used it.

surely you dont all already have the perfect spidy suit?

[spidey4fun]

SSSSHHHHHH........ we're sleeping.

[SpidermanC]

wow, this board has really slowed down since i last used it.

surely you dont all already have the perfect spidy suit?

I'm working on something nice..:woot:

[Taylor]

Yeah, This place was ROLLING, full speed ahead! I haven't seen so many posts in such a short period of time in YEARS. Maybe we should all start fighting about something again. :cwink:

[spideyfan27]

well once again this place is dead again here is a picture of a spidey suit to wake the sleeping.http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9364/melindaspidermankn7.jpg


Yeah, This place was ROLLING, full speed ahead! I haven't seen so many posts in such a short period of time in YEARS. Maybe we should all start fighting about something again. :cwink:

[StanLee Wannabe]

Hmm...decisions, decisions. The girl or the costume, the girl or the costume..

hours later

the girl or the costume, the girl or the costume

[Spiderman0884]

well once again this place is dead again here is a picture of a spidey suit to wake the sleeping.http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9364/melindaspidermankn7.jpg
Your Suit looks nice Ernie... looks like a Spidey4Fun Suit Your chick looks hot too. ;) Boy did that wake me up alright. LOL ;)

[Taylor]

YOWZA!!! Arooooooooooo!!!!!! Owwww- Owwww-Owwwww!!!!!! Very Nice!!! (Not the suit, although it looks very nice too!:cwink:) You're a lucky man Spideyfan72! Is that suit for your "role-playing"?

[spideyfan27]

actually I caught her cheating on me with Brads suit.

YOWZA!!! Arooooooooooo!!!!!! Owwww- Owwww-Owwwww!!!!!! Very Nice!!! (Not the suit, although it looks very nice too!:cwink:) You're a lucky man Spideyfan72! Is that suit for your "role-playing"?

[Taylor]

Wow, That's rough! I don't know how you get over a thing like that, but she seems worth the effort. I think you should charge an extra fee for every suit that you make to have her wear it around for like half an hour. :woot:

[spideyfan27]

GOOD IDEA!!!! She wanted to model it in her thongs. lol


Wow, That's rough! I don't know how you get over a thing like that, but she seems worth the effort. I think you should charge an extra fee for every suit that you make to have her wear it around for like half an hour. :woot:

[spideyfan27]

I have a few extra sets of frames if anyones interested?

meanwhile spidersuitmaker and I are working on thishttp://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1008/blacksuitfw3.jpghttp://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9052/spideyredql1.jpg

[SpidermanC]

Suits still for sale... I've got one offer waiting to come through, if it doesn't I might put it back on ebay.

[Taylor]

Suits still for sale... I've got one offer waiting to come through, if it doesn't I might put it back on ebay.

Be Careful! Parker will have a massive aneurysm! Where is he anyway? I was enjoying his snappy rejoinders and our witty repartee.:csad:

[StanLee Wannabe]

Will the suit fit someone 6'1" and 190 lbs? Is it a full urethane webbing suit? PM me with the price if you don't mind.

Thanks.

[peter_parker]

Be Careful! Parker will have a massive aneurysm! Where is he anyway? I was enjoying his snappy rejoinders and our witty repartee.:csad:

Arrrrrgggghhhh.... my head.......

Here I am... it warms my heart to hear that you enjoyed my paltry contributions to this message board.

I have offered an olive branch to Spiderman C... maybe I should have offered him cash towards his suit instead of a branch???

I think Spiderman C and I are good now, but I haven't heard back from my peace offering PM.

On a side note, I tried to place a bid on JesterFX's webs, lenses, and spiders auction and got some kind of error (I use a snipe website to place bids at times... the error kept my bid from being placed). I tried to bid an amount higher than the eventual winner. Strange.... any ideas on how this happened Jester? Care to sell that same kind of set of items at a higher price than you got in the auction?

[spiderbait]

Well I read back over lots of information and I can say you guys who do original work are amazing.

I found this on Ebay recently.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Spiderman-movie-costume-Spider-Man-prop-Spideyplanet_W0QQitemZ370046768053QQihZ024QQcatego ryZ60361QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

But what I found most interesting was the webbing pictures.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/godaiking/P1011173.jpg

Looks like he's got Yuri's webbing mixed up with Spiderfan27's.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/thespiderbait/webbingko1xl3.jpg

They look very similar to me. Group discussion!!!

[nameless_hero]

yes, similarity is common when trying to establish movie accuracy. Prints are looking very nice Spideyfan27, can't wait for clearer pics.

[spiderbait]

Yes the webbing is similar but also the bits at the side that join to the other parts of the webbing are similar. The side bits or extensions if you will. This part of the webbing would not follow a movie pattern and the length of them would have been determined by the person who drew it. Just an observation!!.

[spideyfan27]

The length of this webbing is 28" very tight fitting. Yuri is also a good friend of mine. He helps me out.
Quit trying to start trouble dummy.

Yes the webbing is similar but also the bits at the side that join to the other parts of the webbing are similar. The side bits or extensions if you will. This part of the webbing would not follow a movie pattern and the length of them would have been determined by the person who drew it. Just an observation!!.

[spideyfan27]

Thanks Nameless hero, We will have some pictures of movie quality masks in a bit.


yes, similarity is common when trying to establish movie accuracy. Prints are looking very nice Spideyfan27, can't wait for clearer pics.

[Schuurkes]

Well I read back over lots of information and I can say you guys who do original work are amazing.

I found this on Ebay recently.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Spiderman-movie-costume-Spider-Man-prop-Spideyplanet_W0QQitemZ370046768053QQihZ024QQcatego ryZ60361QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

But what I found most interesting was the webbing pictures.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/godaiking/P1011173.jpg

Looks like he's got Yuri's webbing mixed up with Spiderfan27's.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/thespiderbait/webbingko1xl3.jpg

They look very similar to me. Group discussion!!!

They are my webs. I sold ernie a set for cheap of which the nose section broke and I glued it back together.

[spideyfan27]

Thanks Yuri, I am going to use this set for a display.

I will post more pics of progress later.


They are my webs. I sold ernie a set for cheap of which the nose section broke and I glued it back together.

[SpidermanC]

The length of this webbing is 28" very tight fitting. Yuri is also a good friend of mine. He helps me out.
Quit trying to start trouble dummy.

People aren't trying to start trouble, they are just tired of your lies. You buy a set of webs from Yuri, and then say @#$% like this..

I Have these test samples now.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/379/testwebbingbeltjf2.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/358/testwebmaskut8.jpg


So far the tests are very nice. I will post more as this project turns into a nice piece.

Here is another picture of the webbing sent from the shop.http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4681/webbingko1xl3.jpg

Those are not your samples, and unless Yuri is your personal shop, they weren't sent from any shop. I'm getting tired of seeing you recast other people's work and selling them for cheap prices because you don't have to pay any of the normal fee's to get molds made.

[spideyfan27]

once again spiderman C, I have a auto cad file made with them, I have to have something to go by I even told Yuri in my email I didn't want to recast his webs even tho he told me to I still refused to, ask him. (normal fees for molds) good one lol


also having Yuri, as a personal shop, sounds cool How bout it Yuri, lol jk WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME WORK FOR A MILLIONAIRE? lol

LET THE WAR BEGIN AGAIN!! Guaranteed to wake this sleepy board up
Thank you,
Ernie


People aren't trying to start trouble, they are just tired of your lies. You buy a set of webs from Yuri, and then say @#$% like this..







Those are not your samples, and unless Yuri is your personal shop, they weren't sent from any shop. I'm getting tired of seeing you recast other people's work and selling them for cheap prices because you don't have to pay any of the normal fee's to get molds made.

[spideyfan27]

Lets see who's on my s**t list

(1) Spiderman C
(2) Spiderbait
(3) Matt Hooper (Brad's servant)
(4) Orlando Spider

I was bored I figured what the he11 For the people who still think I'm a scammer my phone number is (276) 494 9520. I look forward to hearing from you. I need some excitement lol. HEY TAYLOR YOU WANTED ACTION HERE IT IS LOL

[SpidermanC]

once again spiderman C, I have a auto cad file made with them, I have to have something to go by

LET THE WAR BEGIN AGAIN!! Guaranteed to wake this sleepy board up
Thank you,
Ernie

I do not want a war, I just think if you can replicate Yuri's webs that good in auto cad only by looking at them, I'd like to see the molds you can make with some 'on set' pictures!!

Lets see who's on my s**t list

(1) Spiderman C
(2) Spiderbait
(3) Matt Hooper (Brad's servant)
(4) Orlando Spider

And I'm honored to be so high on your S*** list!! But you spelled my name wrong, there's no spaces.:huh:

[Camias]

Lets see who's on my s**t list

(1) Spiderman C
(2) Spiderbait
(3) Matt Hooper (Brad's servant)
(4) Orlando Spider

I was bored I figured what the he11


Not an excellent way, as a vendor/merchant/seller, to garner people's trust and support. If you're good as you say, then don't fight back. Doesn't look good.

[iceman911]

I have been looking at this board for around three years and have never seen a grudge match like the one that is going on and it seems to have started with some of spideyfan27's post, now in his defense I believe that he has made quality parts to the costume but is just using other photos, with permission. I have a hard time thinking people on this boards would go as low as to recast so I dont want to accuse anyone but by bucking up like you do spideyfan27 it looks suspicious. I am looking forward to seeing your photos and your name being cleared. If spidey4fun trusts you and I believe what he says and does then I trust you.

Best Wishes

Iceman911

[spideyfan27]

I shouldnt have snapped like that its my Older self where I use to be a fighter coming into play.
SORRY BOARD.

Not an excellent way, as a vendor/merchant/seller, to garner people's trust and support. If you're good as you say, then don't fight back. Doesn't look good.

[spideyfan27]

Thanks man, I just have alot going on right now, my Fiancee is in Spartanburg having surgery and I hope she feels better, and does ok. I will have some photos of movie frames by next week and yes they actually came off the set.


I have been looking at this board for around three years and have never seen a grudge match like the one that is going on and it seems to have started with some of spideyfan27's post, now in his defense I believe that he has made quality parts to the costume but is just using other photos, with permission. I have a hard time thinking people on this boards would go as low as to recast so I dont want to accuse anyone but by bucking up like you do spideyfan27 it looks suspicious. I am looking forward to seeing your photos and your name being cleared. If spidey4fun trusts you and I believe what he says and does then I trust you.

Best Wishes

Iceman911

[spideyfan27]

once again SORRY SPIDERMANC or is it Tim who knows.

I do not want a war, I just think if you can replicate Yuri's webs that good in auto cad only by looking at them, I'd like to see the molds you can make with some 'on set' pictures!!



And I'm honored to be so high on your S*** list!! But you spelled my name wrong, there's no spaces.:huh:

[The Real Spider]

I really did not want to get into this, I am the only one in here who has actually wore the spider suit. I will say this Spidersuitmaker who is a member of Total Knockout Entertainment is the only one, besides Ollie who has actual movie colors that I have seen so far I Know this because I had a hand in it . I have known Shell for 10 years now, and have seen his work, I know that I can vouch for him any day, he has helped with my Martial Arts and he is a great Human Being. (Shell, tell Melinda I wish her the best and hope she fully recovers).

regards,
Chris




I shouldnt have snapped like that its my Older self where I use to be a fighter coming into play.
SORRY BOARD.

[SpidermanC]

Here's a piece I've been working on.. Just waiting for the right frames..If anyone has a nice pair of hard curved ones, PM me.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff247/idkimboredlol/208179520261.jpg

[The Real Spider]

Thats not bad C, can we see the back of it? What is the webbing made of? How many actual colors of red are in it?

regards,
Chris

Here's a piece I've been working on.. Just waiting for the right frames..If anyone has a nice pair of hard curved ones, PM me.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff247/idkimboredlol/208179520261.jpg

[spideyfan27]

Thanks Chris.

[SpidermanC]

Thats not bad C, can we see the back of it? What is the webbing made of? How many actual colors of red are in it?

regards,
Chris

I don't know, it's Brad's webbing and print, ask him:oldrazz:. And sure, I'll get a picture of it in a bit.

[Taylor]

Damn! A fight and I got here too late. "You suck!", "Get bent", "I'M the best!".


Wheeeew! At least I got in on the tail end. There's got to be some way to pin this all on my Arch Nemesis, Peter Parker.
Parker, you Klingon Bastard, you killed my son! :cmad:

[peter_parker]

Wheeeew! At least I got in on the tail end. There's got to be some way to pin this all on my Arch Nemesis, Peter Parker.
Parker, you Klingon Bastard, you killed my son! :cmad:


Taylor, Priceline just called... seems you still owe them one more commercial in your current contract. And I want airline tickets for $75.00... get your negotiating stance on already!

I am an innocent bystander in the current fight... in fact, I've been a loyal customer of spideyfan27, spidersuitmaker, and spidey4fun (indirectly through spidersuitmaker). I was a potential customer of SpidermanC's too (maybe I still am but haven't heard back from him since my peace offering).

I hope to remain on everyone's "good guy" list in my quest for the perfect Spidey suit.

[peter_parker]

Spiderman27... got the lens and will try it out soon.

Spidersuitmaker... thanks for the work... arrived in the mail today!

[Nfox]

Is anyone else (Among those of us that have been here for a number of years) slightly reminded of the PurpleGoblin (Don't hurt me if it wasn't Purp, but I thought it was) debates of yesteryear? Everyone accused Purp of stealing other people's hard work when he asked for free copies of the TK Comics pattern, then low and behold, he comes out with an amazing custom made pattern, based on low res images.

Look, I say we put our differences aside, and let time be the judge of this little debate. The only way to see how good spideyfan27's work really is, is simply to wait until more people order his stuff. It's as simple as that. If the people get his stuff and are impressed, trust me, they'll post here. If there's one thing I've learned in my time here, it's that people just don't shut up about the quality of the spidey stuff they buy.

So, let's just calm down, wait, and reserve judgement...at least for now.

And now to go back to lurking...

-Nick

[StanLee Wannabe]

Spiderman27 (Ernie) is a great guy who doens't deserve all the flack he's gotten. I think some people get angry whenever competition arises - but we should all be happy that the quality goes up, the value goes up, and the prices go down!

Can't go wrong with someone in Mixed Martial Arts ;)

[SpidermanC]

Spiderman27 (Ernie) is a great guy who doens't deserve all the flack he's gotten. I think some people get angry whenever competition arises - but we should all be happy that the quality goes up, the value goes up, and the prices go down!

Can't go wrong with someone in Mixed Martial Arts ;)

Not when competition arises in the form of recasting. If he's making his own molds, from his own pictures, and files, then sure. But if he's just taking everyone's work, recasting it for next to nothing, and selling it for cheap.. Then all your going to see happen is everyone leave. After that, you'll be getting what ever he sells you for whatever price he wants to sell. There will be no competition, and quality will drop like a rock. It's basic communism/socialism.

[StanLee Wannabe]

I'm a former financial analyst (turned lawyer) so I'm familiar with the concepts. First of all, if there was no contract saying they couldnt be re-cast then it's fair game. You can say it's a matter of professional ethics and you might (or might not) be right.

Even so, if he's the only one left and charges exorbitant prices then someone new will spring up to undercut him just as he did originally.

Of course all this is moot because ernie didn't steal anything. He's got all the references to back up his claims. I think when the stunt double for Spiderman vouches for him, that's a good indicator.

We've actually talked several times over the phone and he's a really good guy.

[spideyfan27]

Great Peter Parker, I Can't wait to see them. I now know the lens secret if you need more let me know.

Thanks Pal.

Spiderman27... got the lens and will try it out soon.

Spidersuitmaker... thanks for the work... arrived in the mail today!

[spideyfan27]

Thanks Nfox thats all I ask.

Is anyone else (Among those of us that have been here for a number of years) slightly reminded of the PurpleGoblin (Don't hurt me if it wasn't Purp, but I thought it was) debates of yesteryear? Everyone accused Purp of stealing other people's hard work when he asked for free copies of the TK Comics pattern, then low and behold, he comes out with an amazing custom made pattern, based on low res images.

Look, I say we put our differences aside, and let time be the judge of this little debate. The only way to see how good spideyfan27's work really is, is simply to wait until more people order his stuff. It's as simple as that. If the people get his stuff and are impressed, trust me, they'll post here. If there's one thing I've learned in my time here, it's that people just don't shut up about the quality of the spidey stuff they buy.

So, let's just calm down, wait, and reserve judgement...at least for now.

And now to go back to lurking...

-Nick

[SpidermanC]

First of all, if there was no contract saying they couldnt be re-cast then it's fair game. You can say it's a matter of professional ethics and you might (or might not) be right.

We've actually talked several times over the phone and he's a really good guy.

Well, I'd say it comes down to this. If your looking at a piece of artwork, that somebody has done; say they hand drew the Mona Lisa.. you wouldn't think any less of the artwork, if you found out he traced it from a picture somebody else took?

Also, I find it funny how whenever something spideyfan related is talked about, all these new guys come around and post on here saying "we've talked on the phone numerous times.. I know him very well, he's such a good guy".. Tell me this, your all so new around here, right? why do you all know him but nobody else, and have his number to randomly call?? Hm....

I'd just find it weird, that if your a new guy, and have read the boards, and are interested in more info, why you would all only go to the one new guy who has controversy's popping up every page.

[spideyfan27]

I'm going to take a swing into this it could be because I actually gave my number out. Don't feel left out You can call me to.

Well, I'd say it comes down to this. If your looking at a piece of artwork, that somebody has done; say they hand drew the Mona Lisa.. you wouldn't think any less of the artwork, if you found out he traced it from a picture somebody else took?

Also, I find it funny how whenever something spideyfan related is talked about, all these new guys come around and post on here saying "we've talked on the phone numerous times.. I know him very well, he's such a good guy".. Tell me this, your all so new around here, right? why do you all know him but nobody else, and have his number to randomly call?? Hm....

I'd just find it weird, that if your a new guy, and have read the boards, and are interested in more info, why you would all only go to the one new guy who has controversy's popping up every page.

[spideyfan27]

SEE my number SpidermanC ITS AT THE BOTTOM IF YOU NEED DIRECTIONS. besides I Even have connections with Marvel, Sony and a few other little nice organizations if you Don't believe me try me. So far 3 people has called me, anyway needless to say I now have their attention Thanks guys.by the way nice mask Spidermanc.


Lets see who's on my s**t list

(1) Spiderman C
(2) Spiderbait
(3) Matt Hooper (Brad's servant)
(4) Orlando Spider

I was bored I figured what the he11 For the people who still think I'm a scammer my phone number is (276) 494 9520. I look forward to hearing from you. I need some excitement lol. HEY TAYLOR YOU WANTED ACTION HERE IT IS LOL

[Crimson Spider]

man, that's an easy question....

start to make out w/ the girl, sirens go off, she says "go get 'em, tiger" , and you suit up and save the day.

[spideyfan27]

lol crimson spider

man, that's an easy question....

start to make out w/ the girl, sirens go off, she says "go get 'em, tiger" , and you suit up and save the day.

[Taylor]

Now, to be fair SpidermanC (If that IS your real name). Spideyfan72 did make the extremely ballsy move of posting his number right here on the board. I think you should call him. Talk to him personally. Ask him your questions. He's invited you to discuss things with him, you should take the opportunity before you label him a scammer. Also, as far as newbies crawling out of the woodwork, I've been here for about 7 years now. I talk on the phone to Spideyfan27, Spidersuitmaker, JesterFX, and a few other randoms, so it's not ALL newbies. In terms of the unscrupulousness of re-casting others work, I agree that it's not cool. But IF he is re-casting (which I don't believe he is) he is being very open about pics of his work, personal info (Phone#, address, Hot Girl-friend in flimsy panties:cwink:). I suppose it's a tricky spot. No one should neccesarily profit off of the hard work of someone who spent a lot of time creating something, but where is that line? Is it strictly in re-casting? What about copying a design free hand? Or using someones pattern as a reference? Or part of a pattern? What if the person tells you they don't mind, Then is it alright? For instance, you have sold (or are selling) at least one or two suits either here or on eBay that you didn't create. I believe that you used Shurrkes, or Spidey4fun or who ever to get the materials and then put it together. You put effort into it, but you basically took someone elses hard work, and put the pieces together and now you want to sell your suit for thousands of dollars (In fact you cancelled the eBay auction because the bidding was only up to around $1000). Is that wrong? Should you be profiting off of that work that was done by someone else? I'm not saying that it is wrong for you to sell your suits, and in fact I wish I could buy them, They're beautiful, but where exactly is the line? I think the best thing you can do is CALL HIM. See if he seems shady to you in person. You can't really get a feel for someone on a board. If you're still not convinced, then at least you gave him a fair shot.

P.S. Parker told me that he'll pay you extra for your suit if you wear it around for a couple of days and then send it to him without washing it first. Something about "aromatics", Whatever that means:huh:.

[peter_parker]

I agree with what Taylor typed. Except for all the facts he got wrong or when he libeled me.

SpidermanC's suit bids were only up to about $800. Not that I was watching it or anything.

And "aromatics" are not human scents... they are healing, beautiful things (like myself). Google it.

Oh yes, I did go there and use the "G" word. Another board no-no.

p.s. - I want in on the future conference calls. I'm calling everyone this weekend to get into the loop.

For instance, you have sold (or are selling) at least one or two suits either here or on eBay that you didn't create. I believe that you used Shurrkes, or Spidey4fun or who ever to get the materials and then put it together. You put effort into it, but you basically took someone elses hard work, and put the pieces together and now you want to sell your suit for thousands of dollars (In fact you cancelled the eBay auction because the bidding was only up to around $1000).

P.S. Parker told me that he'll pay you extra for your suit if you wear it around for a couple of days and then send it to him without washing it first. Something about "aromatics", Whatever that means:huh:.

[batman22]

blah blah cry cry, blah, cry, sniffle, cry, blah blah, suits are suits, this has become recockulous, and rather lame, I think this recasting crap needs to go bye bye, or should I send all you winers some milk and tuck you in.
Brad makes a nice suit, Earnie makes some nice stuff, Mike makes a nice suit, Stan Lee created it all, so everyone breath, and say well crap, I am not totally original, I am recreating an outfit that someone else made.
IF they say they did not recast they did not. Let this crazy bull sh-t go. You are all artists and make a product. everyone outside looking in cut it out and get back to what makes this forum awesome, the sharing of ideas parts and creating a spidey suit.

Or I will send the milk and tuck you in give you a kiss on your forehead, then smother you with a nearby pillow.

[fettster]

I think someone may need to start policing this thread before the whole thing becomes even more petty that it is.

i dont know spideyfan27 and i think i have spoken with spidermanc in the past but im not passing judgement on either but here is a suggestion that can stop this re-casting debate in one motion.

all you have to do it post a sample pic of your cad file or mould. if you have a cad file and a mould made out of something other than plaster or rubber then that to me is pretty definitive proof that your webbing is not a re-cast of someone elses work.

if you would rather not post that proof then that is totally ok as its up to you but you will have to accept that some people will accuse you of re-casting.

i always take plenty of pics as im working through a project so that if anyone tried to accuse me, i can show them the pics to show the developement of the sculpt. soon shuts them up!

[Taylor]

blah blah cry cry, blah, cry, sniffle, cry, blah blah, suits are suits, this has become recockulous, and rather lame, I think this recasting crap needs to go bye bye, or should I send all you winers some milk and tuck you in.
Brad makes a nice suit, Earnie makes some nice stuff, Mike makes a nice suit, Stan Lee created it all, so everyone breath, and say well crap, I am not totally original, I am recreating an outfit that someone else made.
IF they say they did not recast they did not. Let this crazy bull sh-t go. You are all artists and make a product. everyone outside looking in cut it out and get back to what makes this forum awesome, the sharing of ideas parts and creating a spidey suit.

Or I will send the milk and tuck you in give you a kiss on your forehead, then smother you with a nearby pillow.


I think that the only fair way to settle this once and for all is to have each of the suit makers Express Mail me ONE fully completed suit. I want one from Brad, Spidersuitmaker, Shurkkes, Ollie, Ernie, SpideyTim, and who ever else is making them. Once I receive them I will put each suit through a grueling and exhaustive test of putting them on and prancing around and looking at myself in the mirror a lot, as well as jumping up on things I wouldn't normally stand on (table, counter, refrigerator, car roof, etc.) and crouching down in an amazingly uncomfortable but ridiculously cool looking pose. Once I have performed all of these tests I will pronounce who is best, who has recast, who has nice stitching, who was apparently eating chocolate while sewing the suit up, etc. Please P.M. me post haste for the shipping address. I will expect all suits by the end of the month.

P.S. Batman22, Parker asked me to ask YOU (He's shy sometimes) if the pillow smothering is necessary? or if he can just get the milk and forehead kiss and tuck in by themselves. He said he understands if it is a package deal, but he's had bad experiences with "erotic-asphyxia", what ever the heck that is. Parker has a very wide range of interests and hobbies, so sometimes I find it best not to ask. :csad:

[batman22]

I think that the only fair way to settle this once and for all is to have each of the suit makers Express Mail me ONE fully completed suit. I want one from Brad, Spidersuitmaker, Shurkkes, Ollie, Ernie, SpideyTim, and who ever else is making them. Once I receive them I will put each suit through a grueling and exhaustive test of putting them on and prancing around and looking at myself in the mirror a lot, as well as jumping up on things I wouldn't normally stand on (table, counter, refrigerator, car roof, etc.) and crouching down in an amazingly uncomfortable but ridiculously cool looking pose. Once I have performed all of these tests I will pronounce who is best, who has recast, who has nice stitching, who was apparently eating chocolate while sewing the suit up, etc. Please P.M. me post haste for the shipping address. I will expect all suits by the end of the month.

P.S. Batman22, Parker asked me to ask YOU (He's shy sometimes) if the pillow smothering is necessary? or if he can just get the milk and forehead kiss and tuck in by themselves. He said he understands if it is a package deal, but he's had bad experiences with "erotic-asphyxia", what ever the heck that is. Parker has a very wide range of interests and hobbies, so sometimes I find it best not to ask. :csad:

taylor, that is a very fair way to deal with this situation. I think they should all agree and send you a suit. It does sound fair, while they are at it they can send me one with cash and and I will say whose is best as well, I mean why not. I will back you up or who ever gives me the most cash.

as it goes for Parker, it is a package deal. The pillow kill is a must, otherwise they learn nothing.
Plus the pillow will also help that I do not bruise/cut my knuckles whilst hitting the pillow on their face.
:brucebat:

[SpidermanC]

but where is that line? Is it strictly in re-casting? What about copying a design free hand? Or using someones pattern as a reference? Or part of a pattern? What if the person tells you they don't mind, Then is it alright? For instance, you have sold (or are selling) at least one or two suits either here or on eBay that you didn't create. I believe that you used Shurrkes, or Spidey4fun or who ever to get the materials and then put it together. You put effort into it, but you basically took someone elses hard work, and put the pieces together and now you want to sell your suit for thousands of dollars (In fact you cancelled the eBay auction because the bidding was only up to around $1000). Is that wrong? Should you be profiting off of that work that was done by someone else?

Let me point out a few things Taylor..First of all, I only started that because Schuurkes offered a full suit set; seeing as I've always wanted a spiderman suit I thought it was a good buy. To my extent of knowledge, he never said people can't sell his suits once completed. It seemed like a good opportunity. Also, when I bought Brad's pieces, he asked me before hand if I'd be selling it when done, and he still sold them to me. I doubt that would be the case had I said "no, I'll be recasting them."

The difference or "line" that I see, is the fact that everytime I make\sell a suit, I've always:
1. Bought the pieces for full price, never recasted them for a cheap build.
2. Give credit for the pieces, hence why you knew I put together a Schuurkes, and a Spidey4Fun suit, right off the top of your head. I've never bought their pieces and said "here's a sample from the shop"..

Also, I'm not making money in the area of their pieces, I make money from the labor to put the suit together. They aren't selling me a full suit, I'm not just making money for good marketing or something like that. Most suits with urethane webs are $2500+. The pieces won't add up to more than $1000. So that other $1500 your paying is labor. That's the only money I get from the suits, I still pay the $1000 for the peices. Now if your recasting and sell the pieces\suits at a unfair, low price..your getting the money from not having to pay much for the pieces.

[Schuurkes]

Just to make clear: I have no problem with anyone copying my work, selling my work or using my work for their own profit. I have always told my customers this. However I don't approve people claiming something is their work when it's not. Copy OK, but don't take the credits ;-)

[Taylor]

SpidermanC, I fully understand your point and I even agree with you. It seems as if you think that I was accusing you of malfeasence in the area of Spidey paraphanalia possesion, (that would be such a cool law!). I was really just pointing out the fact that it's not always a black and white issue. In fact, sell all the suits you want. I think it's great. I will however be expecting my test copy by the end of the month for inspection.

P.S. Yes Batman22, that makes perfect sense. Especially the part about hurting your knuckles. You don't need that kind of trouble. Parker will be upset (he gets all petulant and runs around in the yard in his flip-flop sandals till he's all tuckered out and then he hides under the front porch till his mom gets him out by poking him with a broomstick-handle.) But I suppose he'll quickly be onto something else. Thanks for trying though.

[spidey4fun]

I think someone may need to start policing this thread before the whole thing becomes even more petty that it is.

i dont know spideyfan27 and i think i have spoken with spidermanc in the past but im not passing judgement on either but here is a suggestion that can stop this re-casting debate in one motion.

all you have to do it post a sample pic of your cad file or mould. if you have a cad file and a mould made out of something other than plaster or rubber then that to me is pretty definitive proof that your webbing is not a re-cast of someone elses work.

if you would rather not post that proof then that is totally ok as its up to you but you will have to accept that some people will accuse you of re-casting.

i always take plenty of pics as im working through a project so that if anyone tried to accuse me, i can show them the pics to show the developement of the sculpt. soon shuts them up!

Yep.. Good call Rich. Showing molds made of plastic or steel is the way to shut down this entire conversation. You wouldnt re-cast the stuff we're making in plastic or steel molds. Possesion molds of this type is absolute proof you've had it made from a ditigal file... or bought the molds.. and not just poured rubber over someone elses work.

[spidey2001]

HMMM.

CAN ANYONE IMAGINE GIRLS FROM THE PLAYBOY MANSION WATCHING THE WAY THIS THREAD IS AT THE MOMENT...NOT A GOOD LOOK boys....


-I'M WITH STAN LEE-

"WITH GREAT POWERS MUST COME GREAT RESPONCIBILITY"

[spidey2001]

"with Great Powers Must Come Great Responcibility"

[peter_parker]

"with Great Powers Must Come Great Responcibility"

... or responsibility even....

[peter_parker]

Stan Lee created it all, so everyone breath, and say well crap, I am not totally original, I am recreating an outfit that someone else made.
Or I will send the milk and tuck you in give you a kiss on your forehead, then smother you with a nearby pillow.

Actuallllllly..... Stan Lee came up with an intellectual concept, not the design of the costume. Credit for the costume design is a point of contention ... was it Jack Kirby (who actually worked on the first cover before being replaced by....) or Steve Ditko?

Another thing.... the "original" comic version costume was not red and blue. It was red and black. The blues that showed up in the comic were supposed to be the highlighting, or muscle outlines, etc. Over time, the artists started coloring it blue with black highlighting.

It's probably a crime to state that you will kill people with a pillow... I'd hate to see anyone thrown in jail for careless words. Except for Taylor who is already a pen-pal with several prisoners.

One more question... are batman22 and spiderman27 somehow related to each other? Similar last names.

[SpidermanC]

I'll just keep my assumptions..:whatever:

[Taylor]

Parker, I EXPLAINED to you that that was a school project. I never intended for those to turn into ongoing dialogues. However, when the head of the "Mongrel Death Disciples" tells you that you will continue to write him, then YOU WILL continue to write him. Besides, it's not that bad. He actually has a delightfully droll sense of humor, (that 3 page monologue about "shiving" that Triad member in the exercise yard was pure camp!). I told him the story about having to come over to help you get your big-toe out of the bathtub faucet again (how you manage to keep doing that, I'll never understand. I mean, once is enough, but FIVE times?). He laughed till the tears rolled down his cheeks (it was visiting day).


BTW, your friend Chauncey called me the other day. He wants me to intercede on his behalf. Apparently you refuse to give him his parcheesi set back. Stop being such a baby. It's not HIS fault you got all scared when that ladybug landed on your arm and started crying. Although I will admit that he didn't have to laugh QUITE so hard. Some Spider-man you'd make!

[spideyfan27]

Hey Taylor here is a picture of your mask. Brought to you by TKO

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8141/taylorsmask3fd5.jpg

[eledoremassis02]

Just baught a make your own kit!! Now instead of reading I'll post updates!!

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4071/yayagk1.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7919/yayaj3.jpg

[Taylor]

Very nice Eledore. It's amazing how screen accurate the mask is. And look. The mask has given you terrifying powers! Very cool.

[SpidermanC]

Very nice Eledore. It's amazing how screen accurate the mask is. And look. The mask has given you terrifying powers! Very cool.

LOL are you serious? That's photoshopped; his hair is even sticking out of the sides...

[spidey4fun]

Just baught a make your own kit!! Now instead of reading I'll post updates!!

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4071/yayagk1.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7919/yayaj3.jpg


LOL... now lets see you making contact with just one wall ...hehehehe

[fettster]

LOL... now lets see you making contact with just one wall ...hehehehe

if i were you, id start running.

I can see doc oc coming at you from the reflection in your lenses. Did you get your lenses from me? they look like me.lol

[Taylor]

LOL are you serious? That's photoshopped; his hair is even sticking out of the sides...


No, of course I'm not serious.

[eledoremassis02]

lol...

Oh, I am thinking of buying a face shell...now I am getting Spideyplanet eyes..will they fit in a "generic" face shell??

[StanLee Wannabe]

I cant believe the face shells cost so much. $100 dollars for ones with eyes and some even dont have the eyes cut out. That's a lot.

[Gundam]

Can anyone help me out with Gunmetal Grey paint for webbing?

[Gundam]

bloody hell double post

[SpidermanC]

Hey guys look at this SM3 prop I found. Look at the inside of the boot;it's red. Wouldn't that mean that the pattern was in fact printed onto red\blue fabric, not just white?

http://www.screenused.com/images/spiderman3/red_boots_4.jpg

Also, I know that in all the auctions it said that the ends of the fabric were sewn around in order to keep it from fraying, but if you look at this picture, you can see some blue is still above the boot's webs.. that wouldn't be there if they serged the edge. Which leads me to think they didn't sew this one and just left where it was serged to connect the blue and red pieces?

http://www.screenused.com/images/spiderman3/red_boots_8.jpg

[Orlando Spider]

Wow... man.
I was LITERALLY just about to post this

I agree. I think it's definitive evidence that they printed the reds and blues onto red, and blue fabric...respectively.

Anyone with an ollie or schuurkes suit>> Can you speak up on these? Is that how these two are achieving their color richness?
I know that Brad uses white... his prints are just awesome like that tho :D

[Brogz007]

Check out the inside of the left boot at the top; why would they screen print the web guides inside? it's just the ink running through the white fabric.

[SpidermanC]

Wow... man.
I was LITERALLY just about to post this

I agree. I think it's definitive evidence that they printed the reds and blues onto red, and blue fabric...respectively.

Anyone with an ollie or schuurkes suit>> Can you speak up on these? Is that how these two are achieving their color richness?
I know that Brad uses white... his prints are just awesome like that tho :D

Small world eh? :whatever:
As an owner of both a Schuurkes and Spidey4fun suit.. I'd have to say the only difference is during photography, and when it's stretched.

[SpidermanC]

Check out the inside of the left boot at the top; why would they screen print the web guides inside? it's just the ink running through the white fabric.

Actually, when you glue the webs on, the glue soaks into the fabric and makes it dry a translucent white. So you can see the back of the webs through the suit. At least that's what I've observed when I've made suits, but might not be the case with movie suits. Also it might just be that the black ink was dark so it soaked through, otherwise wouldn't you see variations in the red, with the muscle shading and such?

[spidey4fun]

That foam latex webbbing didnt hold out for very long. Whow... got a spare $8000... expensive boots!!

[peter_parker]

Check out the inside of the left boot at the top; why would they screen print the web guides inside? it's just the ink running through the white fabric.

For red ink to run through white fabric, you'd have to have a LOT of red ink, totally saturating the material ... soak it in a bucket for a few days??

In a normal printing or silk screen process the colors will not run through the material.

[batman22]

Actuallllllly..... Stan Lee came up with an intellectual concept, not the design of the costume. Credit for the costume design is a point of contention ... was it Jack Kirby (who actually worked on the first cover before being replaced by....) or Steve Ditko?

Another thing.... the "original" comic version costume was not red and blue. It was red and black. The blues that showed up in the comic were supposed to be the highlighting, or muscle outlines, etc. Over time, the artists started coloring it blue with black highlighting.

It's probably a crime to state that you will kill people with a pillow... I'd hate to see anyone thrown in jail for careless words. Except for Taylor who is already a pen-pal with several prisoners.

One more question... are batman22 and spiderman27 somehow related to each other? Similar last names.

To state killing with a pillow is not a crime. For 3 reasons, 1, not a serious threat nor should anyone have taken it that way, the rediculus manner it was stated pushes the point 2. Not really aimed at any one person. IT is rather like saying I could strangle that person, etc. Also you really can not arrest if there is no crime. 3. your a nube.

PP they take slander more serious than written than careless words?? To accuse someone of cheating or casting which can be seen as a personal attack on a person and it is not true are actual grounds for a lawsuit. It sounds to me Peter Parker, you need to look at what you write. Grow up a bit, realize that regardless of what you think Spiderman is an Intellectual property of Stan Lee and Marvel, Whom ever drew him first, which I have the original comic, it does not matter. Intellectual property law is one of the fastest growing concerns today in the US.

Maybe you should look into that. Also all our original supers costumes have changed over the years. the s on superman, the color and cowl on batman, but all still IP of the original creator and comic distributor. Although I am glad you can read and know your spiderman history your useless blabber is in itself an argument that we are all copying someones work that is not ours.

I agree with if you are recasting to give proper credit, but all these ***** fit posts are lame and really call to the critics of comic book readers as lame and need a life..

and for the record I am not related to anybody on this site nor do I know anybody on the site really well.

Now I will give you your ball back so play well with others.