Glee Episode V: The Sylvester Strikes Back - Part 7

[Schlosser85]

Well Colfer said this season was going to be more fun for Kurt, and so far it's been pretty damn angsty. He lost Tony, lost Class President, and is losing hope of getting into NYADA. Pretty much Kurt's only constant positive thing right now is Blaine, and Sebastian wants to steal that too.

[Hunter Rider]

This weeks was a season one quality ep IMO, it probably contained Finn's best solo and fantastic acting from Naya Rivera, plus I really liked coach Beiste singing Jolene.

The show has pretty much ruined Quinn as a character but damn did she look beautiful in the scene where Puck tried to get through to her.

[flash13]

Well he did say first half of the season would be no stunt casting so you know he is going to stunt cast the hell out of the 2nd half. Atleast he hasnt lied thus far this season...that much.

As long as we get Holly back for an episode I'm fine with it.

[Prison Mike]

Who was Tony? :huh:

[Schlosser85]

The lead role in West Side Story.

[Prison Mike]

Oh that. Yeah, Blaine was the better guy for the role anyway. And realistically, Kurt wouldn't have won the election anyway because at that age kids don't care about substance. Who knows, maybe he will get into NYADA afterall and get Rachel's spot. I doubt she's going since she got suspended.

[Schlosser85]

Yea, realistically, Blaine was far better-suited for Tony, and Kurt wouldn't magically go from being an outcast to Senior Class President.

I'm wondering where they're going with the whole NYADA plotline.

Realistically, even if he did get into NYADA, Kurt wouldn't be a big Broadway star. He'd be hindered by his effeminacy the same as he was during the WSS auditions.

[Mogwai]

I'm wondering where they're going with the whole NYADA plotline.
me too

[DACrowe]

I loathe glee's firework... and I love teenage dream, but it's waned a bit for me as of late... it's def more fun to watch for me now, then listen.

Last Friday Night and Kissed a Girl are pretty equal to me though.

I don't like Katy Perry's music, so I'm a bit biased. But I thought they vastly improved Teenage Dream and I Kissed a Girl (at least when Santana was leading the latter). The others are as average and interchangeable as the Perry originals. ;) :oldrazz:

My opinion, of course.

[Dwarf lord]

This weeks was a season one quality ep IMO, it probably contained Finn's best solo and fantastic acting from Naya Rivera, plus I really liked coach Beiste singing Jolene.

The show has pretty much ruined Quinn as a character but damn did she look beautiful in the scene where Puck tried to get through to her.

I endorse pretty much every part of this post, although I really think Quinn can and will be redeemed by the end of the season.

And I don't think Dianna Agron is physically able to be anything but beautiful.

[Sawyer]

I'm waiting for Beiste to kick Sue's ass. Zizes style. :o

[Sawyer]

EW: Chord talks about Sam's return (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/01/glee-chord-overstreet-sam-return/)

What possible reason could Santana have to tear into Sam?!

Oh, right.... this is Glee. :o

[Primal Slayer]

I wonder if something happened between the two during summer...prob not but would be ncie.

And just watched TTs sectional performance...and alls I gots to say is that ND better be GREATNESS because TT KILLED it.

Oh and looks like Santanas rant on Sam is just Santana being Santana which ends up being a very sweet moment between the two.

[Schlosser85]

I still don't see how Blaine and Sam are going to get in a fight. They're like, the two most laidback inoffensive "nice guys" on the show.

[Prison Mike]

Maybe Sam picks up a bit of an attitude while on the stripper circuit? Probably not...

[Schlosser85]

The Troubletones' "I Will Survive/Survivor":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRjDd1yD6L8

My favorite part is the Brittana dancing. Also clearly Finn and Blaine have patched things up if their fist bump is any indication.

Sam's "Red Solo Cup":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17JgBehQLjY

[Prison Mike]

I enjoyed Sam's Red Solo Cup. Everyone was having fun with the song and Kurt's expressions were hilarious. Especially his mouthing "what's wrong with you" to Blaine. LOL Glad Sam took Santana's insults in a fun light way. I guess that's just her being her.

[Mogwai]

yes! trouty mouth insults!!

[Speedball]

The Troubletones' "I Will Survive/Survivor":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRjDd1yD6L8


Song was great, but all the dancers were out of sync with one another, and that's why they'll lose. And now I'm seeing why they say Mercedes is lazy, she had her own lazy dance moves and made her stand out too much, and not in a good way.

And I was waiting for Brittany to walk in during "Red Solo Cup" and scream "I wrote this song six months ago! You were all there when I wrote it!" And that song is why I don't consider Toby Keith to be a "musician". He's just... terrible...

[flash13]

The Troubletones' "I Will Survive/Survivor":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRjDd1yD6L8

My favorite part is the Brittana dancing. Also clearly Finn and Blaine have patched things up if their fist bump is any indication.

Sam's "Red Solo Cup":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17JgBehQLjY

I love the Red Solo Cup performance! Glad to see a Sam and Finn friendship as well, I like it better than the rivalry.

[Prison Mike]

I love the Red Solo Cup performance! Glad to see a Sam and Finn friendship as well, I like it better than the rivalry.

With Quinn out of the picture for both of them, I guess they're friends now. Still, I would like to see Quinn and Sam back together again. Quinn was at her sanest when she was with Sam. They may have been a "boring" couple but I enjoyed them together. I'm tired of the drama that they stir up with these couples. I'm loving Finn and Rachel together now.

[flash13]

I wouldn't mind Sam and Quinn getting back together either but I think their going with Samcedes instead, which is also fine. Anything to be rid of Mercedes' gigantic boyfriend.

[Primal Slayer]

I still don't see how Blaine and Sam are going to get in a fight. They're like, the two most laidback inoffensive "nice guys" on the show.

Apparently Blaine says something about Sams stripping.

[RockSP]

I wouldn't mind Sam and Quinn getting back together either but I think their going with Samcedes instead, which is also fine. Anything to be rid of Mercedes' gigantic boyfriend.

Heh. This beef some of you seem to have with Mercedes' boyfriend is strange. I mean so what he's fat? So are the wrestler chick, Coach Bieste, and Mercedes herself...http://emoticons4u.com/sad/533.gif

[Prison Mike]

I'm pretty apathetic toward Mercedes' boyfriend. We haven't seen enough of him for me to make any sort of judgement yet.

[Primal Slayer]

Ya which is why I want her to get back with Sam since all we know about Mercedes tater tot is that he is supportive and nice. Which is good but I know Sam better.

[Schlosser85]

Exclusive scene of Kurt v. Sebastian:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/02/glee-kurt-sebastian-fight-exclusive-video/

[Sawyer]

"You smell like Craigslist."

Way to come out swinging, Kurt.

[Schlosser85]

My favorite was "I don't like your smirky little meerkat face".

So far they're really not making Blaine out to be remotely seriously interested, or Sebastian out to be anything more than an annoying nuisance.

But we know now he'll be their competition at Regionals, so we can bet there'll be more drama then.

[Mogwai]

ah, i loved that!

[Primal Slayer]

My favorite was "I don't like your smirky little meerkat face".

So far they're really not making Blaine out to be remotely seriously interested, or Sebastian out to be anything more than an annoying nuisance.

But we know now he'll be their competition at Regionals, so we can bet there'll be more drama then.

Must we remember how Blaine/Kurt started out? Blaine wasnt even remotely interested. All Seb has to do is sing a touching song and it will brainwash Blaine into loving him and probably improve his wardrobe.

[Mogwai]

Glee is so predictable. Who thinks Sebastian will transfer to McKinley next season?

[Schlosser85]

I don't. I think he's a Jesse St. James wannabe who'll be around for "drama" for a bit.

[JustABill]

Next season? Grant's already pretty much made it apparent he's transferring THIS season.

[Mogwai]

Next season? Grant's already pretty much made it apparent he's transferring THIS season.
Doesn't surprise me. lol

[Primal Slayer]

I hope he does. He would fill the void santana/kurt will be leaving next season. But I want him to get kicked out of dalton so it forces him to transfer.

Where has grant made it apparent? He keeps saying he doesn't know how long he will be around.

[JustABill]

On his twitter he and one of the McKinley band dudes were saying stuff like ''See you around school dude." ''Hope to see you in the hallways."

[Primal Slayer]

Looks like Damien/Rory is getting his episode arc extended indefinatly.

[flash13]

All the songs from this weeks episode
http://www.gleethemusic.com/us/episode/hold-sixteen

I'm loving Buenos Aires, We Are Young and Man in the Mirror the most.

[JustABill]

LOL. In the real world there's no way Buenos Aires or Survivor/I Will Survive would not win the competition.

[SuperT]

Yea, seriously. I was in show choir for four years and if a group came out and did that Survivor/I Will Survive number, I'd be crapping myself because that would seriously mop the floor with everyone. Buenos Aires is amazing too! Is that the girl that was on the Glee project singing lead?

There's no way New Directions performances are that good just simply listening to the recordings.

[Prison Mike]

Looks like Damien/Rory is getting his episode arc extended indefinatly.

Glad to hear it! I like his character.

[Speedball]

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/121/1214024/gleeewookie_1323125803.jpg
Who is the blond girl next to Chewie?!
Chewbacca Appearing on Glee (http://tv.ign.com/articles/121/1214024p1.html)

[Sawyer]

Darren looks like he just **** his pants with joy. :funny:

[Speedball]

Darren looks like he just **** his pants with joy. :funny:

I know I would! :awesome:

[Schlosser85]

That's kind of how Darren usually looks.

[Mogwai]

That's kind of how Darren usually looks.
love that kid!

[Primal Slayer]

I wonder where Lea and Naya are.....oh and Amber.

[Hunter Rider]

Chewbacca on Glee!?!!? :D

[flash13]

That's pretty awesome!

[Prison Mike]

I'm really excited for tonight's episode since Sam is back! Haven't been looking forward to a Glee episode this much in a long time.

[Primal Slayer]

Hey New Directions, you know what you should do if u really want 2 beat us at Sectionals? Give Finn a dance solo. Do it!

Thats from Brittanys FB lol. Thats such a very Santana thing to say.

And Glee will be doing Grease, looks like Summer Lovin.

[JustABill]

It's probably Samcedes if it's Summer Lovin.

[Primal Slayer]

It is. There are already pics with Sam in the leather jacket and the guys in their usual letterman jackets.
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvsr3aTIFK1qbd895o2_500.jpg

[Sawyer]

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Kecks-Exclusives-Glee-Michael-Jackson-1040527.aspx
Keck's Exclusives: Glee to Celebrate Songs of Michael Jackson in Tribute Episode

Michael Jackson's legions of fans have major cause to celebrate today.

Similar to Season 1's Madonna tribute, the January 24 episode of Fox's Glee will feature 10-12 songs from Jackson's library. The episode is being fast-tracked in the writers' room now and is expected to begin shooting this Friday. Half of the episode will shoot before the cast breaks for the holidays, with the remaining numbers to be completed in January.

While creator Ryan Murphy has been teasing since the summer that a special spring tribute episode was in the offing, it took some convincing to assure the Jackson family that their late son/brother/father would be honored appropriately. Now, they have given their enthusiastic support.

You can get a taste of what's to come in tonight's "Sectionals" episode, which features several classic Jackson family numbers. Finn, Puck, Blaine and Mike sing "Man in the Mirror;" Tina, Kurt and Mike take the lead on The Jackson 5's "ABC;" and Artie, Blaine and Sam do their rendition of Janet Jackson's "Control." According to Ryan, the "kids" had such a fun time performing these MJ numbers, as well as "Thriller" in last year's Super Bowl episode, that he made an extra effort to seal the Jackson tribute deal before the end of 2011. Now he says the cast is flooding him with requests to sing their fave Jackson numbers.

Glee has purposely avoided such splashy episodes this season as part of a renewed commitment to focus on story over spectacle. But if there was ever a reason to break that moratorium, the songbook of Michael Jackson is probably the greatest.

Knew it was only a matter of time.

[JustABill]

All I ask for is ''The Way You Make Me Feel" by Artie.

[Primal Slayer]

I am...not surprised. Though I dont know why this is the tribute he's been wanting to do for a while but just now got permission when they have been covering MJ for awhile now.

[flash13]

I hope they do Bad.

[Prison Mike]

They'll do 10-12 songs in one episode? That seems a bit much.

[Sawyer]

Well, I think Ryan Murphy intends for this to be a two hour episode.

[flash13]

They actually did 10 in the Original Song episode in season 2.

[Dwarf lord]

Well, Quinn has definitely hit rock bottom. When Rachel is providing the voice of reason, you can't get lower.

[Pink Ranger]

Typical mainstream ignorance. Doesn't anybody know that Type A Overachieving Asians always arrive at concerts/parties at least 30 minutes early? :oldrazz:

[Dwarf lord]

And that scene with Finn and Blaine was perfect. That's all I've been looking for since he joined the New Directions. For the season up to this point, he's kind of been wallpaper. He has a nice scene with Kurt, sings a solo, and then goes back to being windowdressing. Now I finally feel like he's part of the group.

Hopefully they can keep that up.

[Speedball]

It's clear why the Unitards are gonna lose. It's a group competition, not American Idol with back-up dancers. It may have been an amazing performance, but the rest of the glee "club" contributed nothing.

[Specter313]

It's clear why the Unitards are gonna lose. It's a group competition, not American Idol with back-up dancers. It may have been an amazing performance, but the rest of the glee "club" contributed nothing.

Yet Vocal Adrenaline won regionals when it was nothing but "All Jesse, All the time."

[Speedball]

Yet Vocal Adrenaline won regionals when it was nothing but "All Jesse, All the time."

But you still heard the rest of the group. I heard nothing but whatever her name is in that song.

[Speedball]

And here we have Quinn's nice personality. B**** is so bipolar.

[Specter313]

One thing I am getting quite tired of is the forced drama they're trying to shove into some of the scenes. I especially found it weird and stupid that the New Directions got all uppity when the Troubletones offered the chance for any of them to come over to their group should ND lose and TT win. I mean, as if those jerks weren't planning to do the same thing to them already. And even Santana was polite during that. I especially didn't like it how Schuster of all of them got pissy.

We'll see how long this sane version of Quinn lasts.

And speaking of forced drama, the confrontation between Sam and Blaine was out of nowhere. I would have maybe understood it if Finn was trying to undermine Blaine while supporting Sam, but it was forced. And yet again, White Knight Finn rides in with no consequences to his jerk-ass actions and attitude some more.

Thank god they finally gave Tina something to do at least.

[Dwarf lord]

I like Sam. He's a relatively in offensive character and Chord Overstreet is pretty charming and on top of that he's a consumate performer. But I will say, he did not need to come back. I fail to comprehend how he saved them at Sectionals. Frankly the best number was done by Tina and Mike Chang and even in his number, he wasn't the main focus (it was Blaine and Artie). I am glad to have him back, but their reasoning was kind of flawed.

[Schlosser85]

Thought it was a pretty good episode, though the Sam-Blaine spat and the New Directions v. Troubletones drama felt forced for the sake of "drama" and like all Glee conflicts, those and Mike's father were resolved too neatly and easily.

And just like with Karofsky, they made Quinn too big of a psycho for it not to feel too quick when she suddenly acted sympathetic.

I actually liked Sam coming back, although "Red Solo Cup", like most things associated with Toby Keith, is moronic.

Sebastian is an ass, and I fail to see why some like him so much. Sure, he creates drama for Klaine, but as an individual character he's one-note and comes across like a pale imitation of Jesse St. James. I really think those expecting him to transfer and join ND are wrong. The band guys tweeting about seeing him in the hallway could have been nothing more than a reference to tonight's episode where he came to McKinley to watch Sectionals. Them and Darren had the same kinds of tweets back and forth last season and people freaked out assuming it meant Blaine was transferring in Season 2, and it turned out it was just because they got in on his performance of "Somewhere Only We Know" in the McKinley courtyard.

These competition episodes have had no real suspense since Season 1. New Directions winning is a foregone conclusion. Personally I didn't think ND was bad, but I thought both The Troubletones and Harmony were better. Smelled Blaine's hair gel on ND's performances, especially their costumes and choreography. It all felt a little Warbler.

I thought Santana's little notebook of insults she'd been saving just in case she ever saw Sam again was hilarious.

Liked the Finn-Blaine bonding scene. Felt like Blaine was finally a full-fledged member of New Directions. And not gonna lie, Blaine all pissed off and sweaty going to town on a punching bag was kinda hot.

Ending was cute, and obviously a throwback to the ending of last year's Sectionals. The backdrop and the way it was filmed was very similar. We see what you did there, writers.

[Schlosser85]

I like Sam. He's a relatively in offensive character and Chord Overstreet is pretty charming and on top of that he's a consumate performer. But I will say, he did not need to come back. I fail to comprehend how he saved them at Sectionals. Frankly the best number was done by Tina and Mike Chang and even in his number, he wasn't the main focus (it was Blaine and Artie). I am glad to have him back, but their reasoning was kind of flawed.

Yea, that felt like a bit of a flimsy excuse to bring Sam back. As a performer, Blaine IMO is far more charismatic than Sam, and he wasn't a prominent part of any of the numbers unless you count his "sexy" move that apparently even got Santana hot and bothered.

I am curious to see where they go with he and Mercedes.

[JustABill]

The only thing that slightly bugged me about this episode was the flop again of putting different choirs in different areas than they originated. Last year New Directions was in the same competition as The Warblers. This year The Warblers apparently have lifted Dalton Academy up from the ground and moved it to a different location as they've already won their own Sectionals.

[Speedball]

The only thing that slightly bugged me about this episode was the flop again of putting different choirs in different areas than they originated. Last year New Directions was in the same competition as The Warblers. This year The Warblers apparently have lifted Dalton Academy up from the ground and moved it to a different location as they've already won their own Sectionals.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/12/6/3ee93f0d-e3eb-4d05-a51e-8f3a86ced214.jpg

[Schlosser85]

Yea, lol, it's ridiculous how every year everyone completely switches what Sectionals and Regionals they're in.

Season 1 New Directions and Vocal Adrenaline were at the same Regionals, then Season 2 they weren't, and now it's the same thing with the Warblers.

I'm gonna assume the writers wanted to hold off the big face-off with Sebastian until later in the season.

[Sawyer]

So now we know what turns Blaine and Sam against eachother.... that wooden **** Finn. :cmad:

[Dwarf lord]

I was on a Club in high school that did competitions very similar to the Glee Clubs on Glee and we were very regularly moved around. Competitions are so infrequent that the fairest way to do it is in tournament bracket and there's little rhyme or reason to how its broken up, but Glee is fairly believable in that respect. Not so much Regionals, but definitely sectionals.

But the "fight" between Blaine and Finn showed that Darren is a great actor. I've known he was a great actor from the Harry Potter Musicals, but Glee has yet to really show case him. That was great. Hopefully we can see more Blaine moments as an actual member of the group in future.

[Schlosser85]

I wouldn't go so far as to say Darren is a great actor, or one of the best on Glee, but in The First Time and his confrontation with Finn in this episode I thought he hit the nail on the head. He definitely seems to have gotten more polished in his acting, and his dance choreography.

[Dwarf lord]

I wouldn't go so far as to say Darren is a great actor, or one of the best on Glee, but in The First Time and his confrontation with Finn in this episode I thought he hit the nail on the head. He definitely seems to have gotten more polished in his acting, and his dance choreography.


I'm definitely going to maintain that he's great, but even still I wouldn't call him one of the best on Glee. Don't think he'd make the top five in that regards (Writing is where Glee fails, the actors are actually quite good). Dianna Agron is probably the best of the younger group. Lea Michele is also great and of course Naya Rivera is fantastic, but she also is lucky enough to have some of the best writing. And Chris Colfer, of course. But I would say Darren is great.

His biggest issue has been that he has had trouble with "getting" TV acting, which is much different than theater acting, which is what he went to school for. I think he's finally starting to get it. Perhaps not Emmy material yet, but he's still young.

[Sawyer]

I actually wasn't all that impressed by the Troubletones number (would've been better without any Destiny's Child), so New Directions beating them didn't bother me much. The other group coming in third seemed like a bit of a stretch, though. :o

[Schlosser85]

I would say the top rung of actors on Glee are Chris Colfer, Matthew Morrison and Jane Lynch (not that their material gives them a chance to show it much), Jayma Mays and Dot Jones (again, when they're given something meaty, which isn't that often), Mike O'Malley, Naya Rivera, Lea Michele, Cory Monteith, and Dianna Agron.

Darren's had a little trouble "trying too hard" and being a little over-the-top, but in his biggest "acting scenes", like the "I don't know what I'm doing" speech in Silly Love Songs, his confession of his feelings for Kurt in Original Song, the fight outside the gay bar and his apology later in The First Time, and his scene with Finn tonight, I think he's stepped up to the plate and done a pretty good job. So much so that I'd like to see him get meaty scenes like that more often instead of the usual routine of trotting him out for one gratuitous musical number an episode while the rest of the time he sits in the choir room making lovey dovey eyes at Kurt.


I actually wasn't all that impressed by the Troubletones number (would've been better without any Destiny's Child), so New Directions beating them didn't bother me much. The other group coming in third seemed like a bit of a stretch, though


Rumour Has It/Someone Like You was far superior to I Will Survive/Survivor. Both of Lindsay's numbers this season were fantastic though.

[Sawyer]

Agreed. If the Adele mashup had been their sectionals number, I'd be much more upset with their inevitable loss.

[SuperT]

I still call shenanigans on the outcome, I didn't think New Directions numbers were all that great to be honest.

"Buenoes Aires" and that mash-up were dope.

[Sawyer]

So, Sugar Motta.... I'm thinking possible pairing for Artie. Thoughts?

[Havok83]

Sam is back! Its about time. I wondered what happened to him

Santana continues to be an unnecesary biyatch. I thought she had learned a lesson after her last episode. Quinn is almost as bad and maybe worst bc she doesnt have the charm Santana has

[Sawyer]

Santana's just a high school *****. Quinn skipped ***** and went straight to manipulative psychopath.

[JustABill]

So, Sugar Motta.... I'm thinking possible pairing for Artie. Thoughts?
**** that. I'm Sugar and the Leprechaun all the way.

[Primal Slayer]

I think this has to be my least favorite episode of the season. While the I liked all the songs, it was just way to one sided than usual for me along with the horrible way they brought back Sam.

I am tired of Finn and SaintBerry being the saving graces of ND. Finn saves ND while Rachel saves Quinns sanity. Them needing star power to win and he thinks of Sam? I like Sam but he doesnt give star quality and to travel 4 hrs and just be able to bring him back with them that easy was just a bit to much for me. Why couldnt they just go a simple route of having his family move back? Plus he readjusts to all the changes like he has never left. I was wanting to see his reaction the splitting of the groups, Mercedes having moved on, and Santanas lebenesiam.

And why didnt Shuester/Finn turn to Mike for some guidance in the dance department? You use the guy to teach everyone how to dance but when it comes to something important you turn to the stripper and the goody2shoes who is used to being the dominate male in a performance.

Of course I was totally prepaired for ND to win but come on it was way to much seeing them perform 3 sectional numbers while we only got to see the other 2 groups do 1. I can see why they would let the group that noone really knows do 1 number but when 2 of your groups feature your main characters and has been a pretty big part of the season, you dont undermine one group just to show how great the other group is. This shouldve been a full on competition between the two that shouldve been brutal in Glee terms. Giving TT one more number so they each wouldve performed 2 is how it shouldve gone. Not to mention that you already knew that they had to win so Mikes dad could accept his dancing.

But atleast Tina and Quinn finally got to do something. Though I wish rachel didnt have to implant getting the TT back into ND into Quinns mind. And no goodbye Shelby scene? I imagine she grew somewhat close to TT and Rachel and wouldve had a nice goodbye with them.

[Schlosser85]

I agreed seeing ND do 3 numbers was way overkill when TT only did 1.

Also "we need star power, we need Sam Evans!" was a really flimsy excuse, especially since they didn't even feature him heavily. Sam doesn't have star power or charisma (IMO).

[Prison Mike]

I thought it was really out of the blue for Finn to suggest Sam to come back because they need "star power". It would have made more sense if Finn and Rachel randomly bumped into Sam and then recruited him back. Still, I loved seeing Sam back. His interactions with Quinn, Santana, and Mercedes were great. He talked a little bit to Quinn about her "rich white girl problems" though it was Rachel who knocked some sense into her. Loved seeing Santana insult Sam about his trouty lips. Thought that was hilarious. I'm actually intrigued about Sam/Mercedes. I was hoping for him to get back with Quinn but I'd like to see where they take his and Mercedes relationship for the rest of the season. I think Quinn will probably end up with Puck. Oh and I have to say that the rumors of a Sam and Blaine fight were greatly exaggerated. That must have been the nicest fight I've ever seen. And it was only like 5 seconds! Finn apologizing to Blaine and admitting he was acting like a jackass was a good scene. Finn can be just as much bipolar as Quinn in some episodes. In one episode he's an ass and in the next he's making up for it. Then he's an ass all over again in the episode after that. The Mike Chang storyline was resolved nicely and we got to hear him and Tina sing! Double win! Personally, I liked the New Directions performance more than the Troubletones. Though I don't know why ND got to perform 3 songs and everyone else only 1 songs. Seemed like it was unfair to me.

[Pink Ranger]

Ironically, in the real world Mike would probably do better than Tina when they become adults. He's a pure dancer, and dance is probably the most colourblind of all the arts and entertainment sectors. And he's a male dancer, so his skills are in greater demand, if you can ignore the show's conceit that Mike got so good just by dancing in his bedroom without lessons or formal training.

[flash13]

The best thing for me was that Finn finally apologized to someone for being a douche.

[Primal Slayer]

This is just to funny to me
http://i43.tinypic.com/2r2u8u1.gif
"That’s not rude, following you around with a tuba and playing a note every time you take a step is"

[Schlosser85]

I thought it was really out of the blue for Finn to suggest Sam to come back because they need "star power". It would have made more sense if Finn and Rachel randomly bumped into Sam and then recruited him back.

Yea, I thought that was a flimsy pretext on the writers' part too. Sam is likable as a person, but as a performer he doesn't scream "star power" to me at all.

Loved seeing Santana insult Sam about his trouty lips. Thought that was hilarious.

Same, thought that and Sue's booty call list were the two funniest things Glee's done recently.

I'm actually intrigued about Sam/Mercedes. I was hoping for him to get back with Quinn but I'd like to see where they take his and Mercedes relationship for the rest of the season.

I didn't really care much one way or another about Sam for most of Season 2, but the surprise twist of Samcedes in the finale intrigued me, and I wanted to see where it went in Season 3. Plus I dislike Shane, so bring on the Samcedes. Also, Samcedes is less cliched than two pretty blonds or two heavyset African-Americans dating.

Finn apologizing to Blaine and admitting he was acting like a jackass was a good scene.

Really liked that scene. Liked Finn apologizing and admitting to being an ass for once, and I like that we've had more recently of Blaine interacting with other characters besides Kurt. It makes him feel more like a full-fledged character instead of just "Blaine, boyfriend of Kurt". Darren acted really well in that scene too.

Finn can be just as much bipolar as Quinn in some episodes. In one episode he's an ass and in the next he's making up for it. Then he's an ass all over again in the episode after that.

Eh I wouldn't say Finn is anywhere near as bipolar as Quinn. Finn is a big insecure baby at times, but Quinn was acting downright crazy with the Shelby/Beth situation. But the writers definitely do have a problem with characters being asses, then redeeming themselves, then forgetting how they "saw the light" and being back to their dickish ways one episode later, especially Quinn and Sue.

The Mike Chang storyline was resolved nicely and we got to hear him and Tina sing! Double win!

I really liked Mike and Tina singing. Tina has a nice voice but she literally got to sing like twice a season in Seasons 1 and 2, and Mike has turned into a decent singer. I like how it seems that lately they've been varying up who gets the songs a little more instead of having Finchel dominate everything.

Personally, I liked the New Directions performance more than the Troubletones.

Rumour Has It/Someone Like You was far superior to I Will Survive/Survivor. I thought both groups were good but I didn't think either was exceptional. I thought Lindsay Pearce/Harmony's number was terrific though, as was her first one in episode 3.01.


Though I don't know why ND got to perform 3 songs and everyone else only 1 songs. Seemed like it was unfair to me.


Eh I just go with it because ND is the central focus of the show and the writers don't want to waste time spending 10 minutes on multiple numbers from groups nobody really has an investment in. That's how it was in Seasons 1 and 2 too. In Season 1 Regionals Vocal Adrenaline only did Bohemian Rhapsody, while ND did three Journey songs. At Season 2 Sectionals the Warblers did "Hey Soul Sister" while ND did "Time of my Life" and "Valerie". The only time it was equal was at Season 2 Regionals where the Warblers did "Candles" and "Raise Your Glass" and ND did "Get It Right" and "Loser Like Me", and the only reason they got equal showtimes then was because the powers-that-be like to show off Darren Criss as much as possible, and Kurt was at Dalton, making the Warblers more part of the narrative.

[Primal Slayer]

Thats why TT shouldve got 2 numbers and ND get 2 numbers since it was ultimatly between those two groups who both have main characters in them.

[Pink Ranger]

This is just to funny to me
http://i43.tinypic.com/2r2u8u1.gif
"That’s not rude, following you around with a tuba and playing a note every time you take a step is"

She stole that joke from Stewie Griffin, but it was still good.

[Prison Mike]

I agree that Trouble Tones should have performed Rumour Has It/Someone Like You at Sectionals. I think had they performed that number over the one they did, they would have had the win in the bag. Of course that can't happen in this show since it's about New Directions.

[Pink Ranger]

It would have maybe made a better story if the Troubletones won, but Shelby gets suspended/arrested over her intimacy with Puck (which gets surprisingly little condemnation from the show's internal morality, I'm just saying). The TTs go to the next round, but suddenly has to deal with having their head and heart ripped out with Shelby gone. So they turn to the only person who can coach them: Will, who has to blend together the NDs and TTs to form a winnable squad.

[Schlosser85]

So is Shelby still on the show?

[Primal Slayer]

No I believe this was her last episode. Nice goodbye wasnt it?

[Schlosser85]

But Quinn didn't report her.

[Primal Slayer]

She probably still turned in her walking papers. She was just a sub afterall wasnt she? Plus I dont think we have heard anything about her for upcoming episodes.

[Sawyer]

This is just to funny to me
http://i43.tinypic.com/2r2u8u1.gif
"That’s not rude, following you around with a tuba and playing a note every time you take a step is"

Glee took a joke from Family Guy?


:dry:




**** this show. :o

[JustABill]

Idina signed up for 10-12 episodes of season 3. She showed up first in episode 2. That means she has anywhere from 3 to 5 episodes left.

[Sawyer]

**** that. I'm Sugar and the Leprechaun all the way.

I had just assumed that he would remain in the role of "funny foreigner who never gets any".

Like Glee's version of Fez. :o

[Specter313]

Rumour Has It/Someone Like You was far superior to I Will Survive/Survivor. Both of Lindsay's numbers this season were fantastic though.

And she's only a sophomore. So hopefully she'll return to annoy the New Directions some more.

[flash13]

Or even better, become a part of New Directions.

[Primal Slayer]

Thats to many transfers. Though she would be the new Rachel.

[Speedball]

I agree that Trouble Tones should have performed Rumour Has It/Someone Like You at Sectionals. I think had they performed that number over the one they did, they would have had the win in the bag. Of course that can't happen in this show since it's about New Directions.

It's funny how they rehearse these numbers for sectionals, regionals, etc, say they're "perfect" for them, but never do them. The only song that's been repeated is Don't Stop Believin'.

[Sawyer]

I have to ask...... is Will even important to this show anymore?

He used to have an actual role in the series. Now he just seems like their Mr. Belding.

[Pink Ranger]

He used to have an actual role in the series. Now he just seems like their Mr. Belding.

You say that like it's a bad thing. :(

[Sawyer]

For a character that I used to consider the focal point of the series, it kind of is. :csad:

[Speedball]

I agree, he's kind of faded into the background. Sometimes I wonder why some of the characters are considered regulars, like poor Jenna Ushkowitz, but at least she FINALLY got to do something this episode.

[Specter313]

I have to ask...... is Will even important to this show anymore?

He used to have an actual role in the series. Now he just seems like their Mr. Belding.

I made this same point last night to Bill. When he walked in at the end of their final number, I was like, "So is he just gonna pop up now and then to laugh and look fondly at the kids from now on?" He was a complete non-entity last night.

[RockSP]

Eh, every episode isn't going to revolve around him...and shouldn't. Sue wasn't in it at all, I don't think.

[Schlosser85]

With the exception of Funeral, the best episodes in recent memory have been those where Sue is either absent altogether or has a small role. Her shtick is older than dirt.

[Speedball]

With the exception of Funeral, the best episodes in recent memory have been those where Sue is either absent altogether or has a small role. Her shtick is older than dirt.

I'd be fine if she's written off the show. It'd take a lot of stress out of the show actually.

[Sawyer]

I'm torn on Sue. On one hand, I love Jane Lynch as the character. On the other, the writing sucks and she's just making the most out of it. If she were free of the show, though, she would be able to move on to, most likely, better things. So I guess I'd be okay with it.

[Schlosser85]

The thought has crossed my mind. She's annoying anymore.

Jane Lynch does the best she can with it, but she's so squandered.

[Sawyer]

The only thing I have a problem with is her character arc and that it generally consists of her running in circles. But in terms of dialogue and general presence, I still love the character.

[iamlegend]

The only thing I have a problem with is her character arc and that it generally consists of her running in circles. But in terms of dialogue and general presence, I still love the character.

So... she suffers from the same affliction that every single character on this show deals with. :woot:

Her biggest problem, though, is that the character's story (and thus approach to the Glee club) ultimately climaxed already. She's been effectively de-clawed since the first season.

[Primal Slayer]

Thats why we need a Cheerios storyline! So Sue can have something to do that is a big part of her life.

And maybe Shuesters role will increaes again for season4 sisnce he will most likely be married to Emma (who couldve had so much screentime and storytime if they were smart. Santana/Quinn/Shelby all couldve used her help) by then, maybe a baby...

[Schlosser85]

I was expecting the Congressional race to last longer than this. At least it gave her some purpose. What's she going to do now? Get in cahoots with Jesse and Sebastian and leak them ND's Regionals set list? Been there, done that. Turn the glee kids against each other? Been there, done that. Get their funding cut? Been there, done that. Try to screw up Will's relationship with Emma? Been there, done that.

There's basically nothing Sue can do that won't feel rehashed. She's gone from being an imposing nemesis to an annoying and ineffectual nuisance. I guess now she's got the love triangle fighting Beiste for Cooter....yay. Thrilling.

And obviously they scrapped the plotline about Will and Burt exposing her past as a failed glee club singer, which actually had the potential to flesh out her motives a little more, albeit by recycling Bryan Ryan's backstory.

The only halfway interesting/original plotline I can come up with off the top of my head is if, since Blaine helped guide ND to their Sectionals win, she cooks up some divide and conquer scheme with Sebastian targeting Klaine and/or trying to get Blaine back into the Warblers, but she seems to have a soft spot for Sweet Porcelain, so I don't know if she'd be that cruel to him. Then again, she did run ads basically making fun of his dad's heart attack.

The idea of Sue, Sebastian, and Jesse forming The League of Doom 2.0 has a certain appeal though, provided it did more than the last one. Jesse and Sebastian in one room might make the universe implode that from much concentrated smug ******-baggery though.

[Primal Slayer]

They cut the flashback Sue scene but will probably be on dvd they said.

And they couldve used Sue to form the TroubleTones but didnt. But if they actually focus on her work with the cheerios then they could give her, her own enemy to take down and also have it crossover into ND with it affecting Santana and Brittany.

[Prison Mike]

I made this same point last night to Bill. When he walked in at the end of their final number, I was like, "So is he just gonna pop up now and then to laugh and look fondly at the kids from now on?" He was a complete non-entity last night.

I thought the same thing. I got a kick out of him popping out nowhere and hugging and laughing though. For some reason, I thought it was really funny (and I wasn't laughing with Will either)

[Mogwai]

Sue's #1 priority starting in January: Destroy the Glee Club!

[Primal Slayer]

Sue's #1 priority starting in January: Destroy the Glee Club!

Becky: "Coach, what are we going to do today?"
Sue: "Same thing we do everyday Becky, destroy the Glee Club!"

They're becky, becky and the sue sue sue sue sue!

[Mogwai]

^love it.

[Sawyer]

I love that Becky's parents have little to no problem with the fact that their daughter looks up to and interacts daily with a complete sociopath. And it's not like she keeps a lid on it either. Have these people never watched Sue's Corner?

[Primal Slayer]

Lol they are probably glad at the person she has become since meeting Sue.

Becky to her parents on halloween "give me all your chocolate or I will cut you"

[Schlosser85]

Like all Glee parents, the Jacksons probably only exist when they're required to by the plot.

Just like no one's parents came to the benefit concert and Mike's mom wasn't at Sectionals but dad was because he was fulfilling the plotline of the week.

[Prison Mike]

I'm still surprised we haven't met Rachel's 2 dads yet. I hope we see them soon.

[Prison Mike]

I was just on youtube going through all the past tv shows that the glee actors were on prior to Glee. Cory was in the Wendigo episode on Supernatural, Dianna was on Heroes, Naya was in Even Stevens with Shia Labeouf and Family Matters. LOL

[Primal Slayer]

Well looks like we will be getting plenty of family members. Not onl are we meeting Santanas mother, now we will also be meeting her big brother (who as of right now, they want to be played by pitbull....) and its also strongly rumored that they are finally getting around to cast Rachels 2 dads. So we will get a little family musical with the Lopez fam.

And im guessing no one has really seen the battle between one of the glee writers and Brittana fans over them yet to have an on air kiss with the writer trying to say they have kissed and now they are trying to say that their mention of scissoring is the ultimate kiss. Lol gotta love Glee.

[Sawyer]

Pitbull as Santana's brother? :dry:...... this will either be alright or one of the flat out most idiotic casting moves the show has ever made.

And it's about time they brought in Rachel's dads. I'd really like to know what took them this long.

[Primal Slayer]

They shouldve made Ricky Martin Santanas brother and get some other hot guy to play a teacher.

[DACrowe]

In my belated response....I really liked this week's episode. It was the first really good one this season. I was even okay that the song selection was weak. Seeing Sam come back in such a humorous way was nice and I'm always surprised at how quickly Ryan Murphy can make Quinn's character turn on a dime. She must have multiple personalities or something.

With that said, Santana and co.'s one song was way better than all three performed by New Directions. If ND has to win to serve the plot, at least make them better in the episode.

[Sawyer]

UC6u0Tct-Fo
If only any of the guys on this show had the voice to do this justice. :csad:

It would be a great duet with Santana. But knowing this show, it would go straight to Finchel.

[Pink Ranger]

UC6u0Tct-Fo
If only any of the guys on this show had the voice to do this justice. :csad:

It would be a great duet with Santana. But knowing this show, it would go straight to Finchel.

Mark Salling and some moderate autotune would probably work.

[Prison Mike]

KXuY9GjOSO4

[Schlosser85]

Gloria Estefan is Santana's mother in Episode 12, the same episode as Ricky Martin.

Episode 11 is a Michael Jackson tribute episode with ND competing with the Warblers (this isn't Regionals, it's a separate event). Grant Gustin (Sebastian) just recorded a song.

[Pink Ranger]

KXuY9GjOSO4

Looking back, it's interesting that the original song had no solos for female performers. But still, I find the Glee equivalents oddly fitting:

Paul Young/Finn: incredibly mediocre singer who is usually overshadowed by the superior talents that are his "backups"

Boy George/Mercedes: annoying diva who wears to much makeup and dates gay guys

George Michael/Rachel: annoying diva who has done some weird stuff in public restrooms

Simon LeBon/Klaine: enough hair gel to power a battleship

Sting/Artie: a singer with legendary sexual powers

Bono/Mercedes: talented but so self-important that you want to hit them

[Schlosser85]

Scene from Christmas episode with Artie, Kurt, and Blaine in Sue's office.

http://star55.tumblr.com/post/13984974478/waltzy-new-video-kurt-blaine-and-artie-in

"Wheels, Porcelain, Other Gay..."

Every time I think Sue might as well just be written off the show because her shtick is so old and repetitive, she says something that makes me LOL hard.

Not gonna lie, I also LOLed at how pleased Blaine looks with his Sue nickname.

[Sawyer]

KXuY9GjOSO4

Sue looks genuinely touched. Which can only mean one thing: She takes a ten minute break from her usual shenanigans, before reverting back to her normal self by shoving one of the group into an active volcano. ****, probably one of the orphans too, for that matter. :o

[Hunter Rider]

I thought this weeks episode was excellent, following on the season one standard set by last weeks ep.

[Schlosser85]

The First Time and Hold on to Sixteen are my favorites from this season so far, with Pot O'Gold as the weakest.

Though Asian F was pretty good.

[JustABill]

I thought I Kissed a Girl, The First Time, and I Am Unicorn were either completely meh, overhyped, or offensive (I Kissed a Girl and I Am Unicorn).

Asian F, Mash Off, Hold on to Sixteen were amazing.

Purple Piano Project and Pot O Gold are just sorta there for me.

[Sawyer]

Asian F was the first episode to really treat Mike Chang as a character. Therefore, I'll rank that above just about every other episode this season.

[Schlosser85]

Why were I Kissed a Girl and I Am Unicorn offensive?

[Schlosser85]

The Purple Piano Project:

Good start to the season, did a pretty good job setting up the initial plotlines (Rachel and Kurt's NYADA fixation, Kurt running for Senior Class President, Sue's anti-arts Congressional platform, Quinn's instability, Blaine joining and Finn feeling threatened by this). Still wish they'd actually shown Will and Emma get together after practically two entire seasons of their little "close but no cigar" dance around each other instead of just doing the whole "oh look what happened over the summer". Sugar is amusing. Don't like Shane. Disappointed they just voided the bonding between Sue and Will/ND during Jean's funeral and reset her to "MUST DESTROY GLEE CLUB" mode. Liked Blaine's transfer (though did anyone not know that was inevitable sooner or later?). We Got the Beat, It's Not Unusual, and You Can't Stop the Beat were fun numbers. Ding Dong the Witch is Dead was....ok. Really enjoyed Lindsay Pearce's character and number.

I Am Unicorn:

Thought the whole plotline of Kurt learning how his femininity typecasts him was interesting and fairly true-to-life. Didn't like Emma, Beiste, and Artie laughing at him though, it was irresponsible especially on Emma and Beiste's parts, since they are faculty and authority figures. Liked Will giving Quinn the deserved verbal smackdown. The scenes with Puck bonding with Beth were nice and gave Puck more substantial material than usual. "I'm the Greatest Star" was technically well-sung but an ill-considered audition choice for Tony in West Side Story. Lea Michele and Idina Menzel of course duet great together. Thought Blaine's audition was really good.

Asian F

Liked the character development for Mike. Got a little misty in the scene with his mother. Was pleasantly surprised at Kurt sucking it up and being an adult and being supportive and congratulatory to Blaine instead of throwing a *****-fest. Mercedes was a big entitled baby (although she did have a valid point about Will's favortism to Rachel), but I find "Spotlight" really catchy. They rehashed the "Mercedes throwing a diva tantrum and competing with Rachel" plotline from Comeback and A Night of Neglect, but it was better-written this time around (no demanding puppies to dry her hands on). Also enjoyed "Run the World". The scene with Will and Emma at the end and "Fix You" was nicely emotional. Probably the third favorite of the season so far.

Pot O'Gold

To me, the most "meh" episode of the season so far. Too focused around Rory and Brittany thinking he's a leprechaun which, like her still believing in Santa, not being able to recognize Sue in green facepaint or Beiste in a Santa costume, or thinking she's pregnant because a stork built a nest on her roof, takes her stupidity to levels where it's tough to buy her functioning in a relationship with a person of average intelligence. Did like Burt facing off with Sue though. Burt is always welcome on my screen and it gave Sue something to do and someone she can't intimidate to butt heads with. Rory's two songs were "meh", as is Rory in general, but I really enjoyed "Candyman" and "Last Friday Night". The Puck-Shelby situation was a little messed up, but an interesting plotline and really not especially implausible considering how lonely Shelby is and the way they have Beth to bond over.

The First Time

My favorite episode of the season so far. Liked Beiste getting a love interest. Enjoyed Santana's rendition of "America". Thought the relationship scenes between Finchel and Klaine were handled well and it actually treated their decisions to be intimate in a tasteful and non-sensational manner that was about the emotions instead of "OMG THEY'RE DOING IT!". Sebastian was entertaining in a *****ey Jesse 2.0 kind of way. Really liked the scene with Kurt and Karofsky.

Mash-Off

Not as good as The First Time but a really fun episode, to me. Sue's "baboon heart" ad against Burt made me LOL hard and was one of the funniest things she's done in a long time. Also thought the dodgeball game set to "Hit Me With Your Best Shot/One Way or Another" was nice song choices and really fun. The guys in their '80s Hall & Oates 'staches was really fun too. The Senior Class President speeches were enjoyably cracky. Nice scene between Rachel and Shelby. Emotional ending and Rumour Has It/Someone Like You is my favorite Glee mash-up since Singing in the Rain/Umbrella.

I Kissed a Girl

Again, a little bit on crack but a fun episode. Really enjoyed "I Kissed a Girl" and the ending "Constant Craving" montage. Liked Puck's "I'm the Only One". Even liked Beiste's "Jolene", though the love triangle between her, Sue, and Cooter is a little silly (although Sue's "booty call" list was hysterical). Tough scene with Santana's grandma, but also good for the sake of realism to show a family member of an LGBT character who's not as ideal as Burt Hummel.

Hold On to Sixteen

Probably my second favorite episode of the season so far. Can take or leave Sam but at least like that he seems poised to wrestle Mercedes away from Shane. "Red Solo Cup" is a dumb song but a fun scene. Loved Kurt trading insults with Sebastian. Liked how it brought a bunch of conflicts to a head and resolved them (Finn and Blaine, ND and Troubletones, Quinn and Shelby, Mike and his dad). Liked that they're having Blaine interact with other characters besides Kurt and be involved in plotlines that don't revolve around Klaine. He felt like a full-fledged member of the group this episode instead of just "Kurt's boyfriend". Thought Lindsay's number was terrific (again). As cliched as it sounds, the ending made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

[JustABill]

Why were I Kissed a Girl and I Am Unicorn offensive?
Santana's forced out of the closet, and White Knight Finn swoops in to make things better without an apology.

And then the Quinn stuff started in I Am Unicorn and was offensive to adoption.

[Schlosser85]

How was it offensive to adoption? The show didn't make Quinn out to be justified.

[JustABill]

Going there when one of their main characters is adopted? Seriously. It's pretty offensive.

[Schlosser85]

....huh?

I don't get how it was offensive to adoption. They didn't make Shelby out to be a bad mother, or like being adopted somehow damaged Beth. Quinn was the one being irrational.

[Sawyer]

I don't think it's all that offensive, considering that Quinn was pretty clearly made out to be the villain in that situation.

[Primal Slayer]

Exactly and not as if it hasnt happened in real life. They would have offended majority of the cast by now if they took things to heart like wow one of them is adopted so we cant do a crazy adoption story where we make the one going after adoption is obviously wrong.

But I am starting s2 again on dvd and I just noticed that on the main screen they made Quinn brunette instead of blonde...

And I hope that MJs tribute isnt suggested by Finn or Rachel or I will be highly upset. Santa baby better not revolve around them either.

[Prison Mike]

I don't think Blaine ever apologized to Sam regarding his snide remark about selling his body. I think he seriously needs to do that.

[Schlosser85]

How often does anyone on Glee apologize for anything?

Finn never apologized to Sam for stealing his girlfriend.

Blaine and Sam were clearly "cool" later, so I seriously doubt it'll ever be addressed again.

Glee loves to resolve arguments offscreen, like Kurt and Blaine having their spat about bisexuality and majorly pissing each other off, then being inseparable BFFs again next time we see them.

[Hunter Rider]

I don't think Fin rode in to the rescue in the Santanta situation, he simply tried to fix a situation that he was partly responsible for, isn't that what we are supposed to do?

[J'adore]

Finn redeemed himself, in my opinion.

Last episode was really good (amazing songs), but it was of course a "Let's forget all plots so far and do some sectional goodness!" with a side of "Idina's contract is over".

:)

[Prison Mike]

I don't think Fin rode in to the rescue in the Santanta situation, he simply tried to fix a situation that he was partly responsible for, isn't that what we are supposed to do?

I thought the same. He tried to make up for his part in inadvertently outing Santana. But I don't he think he tried to force her to come out as some have suggested. He just tried to get her to accept herself. She was going to be outed either way due to that political commercial.

[spideyboy_1111]

people need to get over themselves if they think Finn forced Santana out of the closet... The only closet she was in was the one she set up herself, and it was a glass closet bound to be shattered. Everyone at the school already knew. She just didn't talk about it. She was also miserable, and making everyone elses life a living hell, and he called her out on the reason behind it. Was it right to do? no, I never agree with an "eye for an eye" mentality... but at the same time she needed put in her place, and i didn't feel sorry for her with what Finn did. I felt sorry for her that the conversation was disgustingly mentally recorded and used in a political ploy that outed her to her family. But that is not Finn's fault at all, the politician's daughter could have caught anyone of Santanna's convos.. or taken pictures of her holding hands with brittany.....................

[Prison Mike]

Yup, I agree with everything spideyboy just said

[John Locke]

Whether or not her forced her out of the glass closet he still did something wrong and he never apologized for it. Even when he helped her he never said "I'm sorry." That's my problem with the situation.

[Schlosser85]

Blaine may be the first person Finn has ever apologized to.

It bugs me that he never apologized to Sam for stealing Quinn.

[Sawyer]

Blaine may be the first person Finn has ever apologized to.

It bugs me that he never apologized to Sam for stealing Quinn.

It's hard to apologize when one has had their head firmly planted up their own ass since spring of 2010.

I'm actually a bit more disappointed that Sam doesn't seem to have much of a problem with Finn. I mean, I know you're supposed to be like the nicest guy in the world, Sam, but for God sake.... hold a ****ing grudge. Finn deserves it. :o

[RockSP]

Eh, it's high school. Breaking up then getting back together or someone stealing someone else's boyfriend/girlfriend happens all the time. Sam was with Santana and then Mercedes after Quinn. Now he's trying to steal Mercedes from Shane. Not to mention Mike never apologized to Artie about taking Tina.

[Primal Slayer]

Well I dont think Mike really has to apologize for anything since Tina broke up with Artie to be with Mike.

[Schlosser85]

Right, Tina dumped Artie and glommed onto Mike, Mike didn't really set out to steal her.

[Pink Ranger]

Right, Tina dumped Artie and glommed onto Mike, Mike didn't really set out to steal her.

I think his abs did. They're autonomous from the rest of his body.

[spideyboy_1111]

Whether or not her forced her out of the glass closet he still did something wrong and he never apologized for it. Even when he helped her he never said "I'm sorry." That's my problem with the situation.

as i've stated before... him an santanna's relationship isnt one where they need a verbal apology (not every person does) he more than made up for it in the following episode.. and it was quite obvious they were both apologizing in there own way, and were both completely ok with it.

[RockSP]

I think his abs did. They're autonomous from the rest of his body.

Mike's abs should apologize to Artie about as much as Finn should apologize for what a politician did.

[J'adore]

TBH this is Glee. They're not going to dwell on canon now when they never have done in the past.

[Schlosser85]

Mike has nothing to apologize to Artie for. Tina made her own decision.

Finn annoys me plenty of times, but he did not singlehandedly, directly, or intentionally out Santana, and IMO he made up for it with his actions toward her afterwards. She clearly accepted it, so that's what matters.

Glee loves to resolve arguments offscreen. Blaine should have apologized to Sam for his "I'm not for sale!" jab, and he and Kurt should have apologized to each other after their spat about bisexuality in Blame It On The Alcohol (Blaine for comparing Kurt to Karofsky, Kurt for his whole "bisexual is just a term gay guys use to hold hands with a girl" spiel), but next time we see them they're all BFF, so we're to assume any lingering tension has been swept under the rug and everyone has moved on from it.

[RockSP]

Mike has nothing to apologize to Artie for. Tina made her own decision.

That goes for all the "stolen" girls too.

[Schlosser85]

EH, IMO it's still jerkish to pursue someone else's boyfriend/girlfriend. Mike didn't really set out to steal Tina the way Finn made it his mission to pry Quinn away from Sam, or what Sebastian is trying to do with Blaine>

Yes, Quinn made her own decision, but it didn't excuse Finn either, and it doesn't stop Sebastian from being an *******.

[Schlosser85]

I'll admit...the more I think about it, I actually like Sam being back. I also actually think he and Mercedes would make an interestingly non-stereotypical couple as opposed to the two pretty blonds or two heavyset African-Americans, so I hope they continue their storyline.

[Sawyer]

Glee loves to resolve arguments offscreen. Blaine should have apologized to Sam for his "I'm not for sale!" jab, and he and Kurt should have apologized to each other after their spat about bisexuality in Blame It On The Alcohol (Blaine for comparing Kurt to Karofsky, Kurt for his whole "bisexual is just a term gay guys use to hold hands with a girl" spiel), but next time we see them they're all BFF, so we're to assume any lingering tension has been swept under the rug and everyone has moved on from it.

Quinn should apologize for her personality. :o

[Sawyer]

Vocal Adrenaline, I've got the perfect song for you to make your return...
-Hpq6P3ySW8
:cool:

[J'adore]

I can't wait for VA's return with Jesse St. Badass as their director. http://forums.superherohype.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[Sawyer]

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Glee-Michael-Jackson-Tribute-1040792.aspxKeck's Exclusives: More Details on Glee's Salute to Michael Jackson
by William Keck

TV Guide Magazine broke the news that Fox's Glee will end its season-long moratorium on tribute episodes for one very special homage to Michael Jackson. Now here are the first details of what to expect.

The January 24 episode will find Mr. Schuester (Matthew Morrison) declaring it "Michael Week" at McKinley High after some of the former Troubletones express regret over missing out on New Directions' MJ medley at sectionals. Twelve classic songs, spanning the late artist's entire career all the way back to his Jackson 5 days, will be performed.

Even the Warblers and scheming Sebastian will get in on the Jacko lovefest. Blaine (Darren Criss) will take on "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'," while Finn (Cory Monteith) and Rachel (Lea Michele) fans can look forward to a romantic duet of "I Just Can't Stop Loving You." Sounds like a Thriller!

[J'adore]

That's the plan for Regionals.

I just hope my boo Sugar Motta is now like a proper member of ND.

[Primal Slayer]

Well we already know that Blaine (no surprise) will be getting an MJ song. But hopefully they smart and since it is the TT members who bring this about, they should get a song. And of course Artie already should be a shoe in for the leader of MJ songs but I dont see that happening.

[Speedball]

That's the plan for Regionals.

I just hope my boo Sugar Motta is now like a proper member of ND.

I hope so too. I like that actress. I hope her time in the TT's improved her voice, I'd like to see her get a song.

[Specter313]

This ep is only halfway through, but it's already one of the more bland, annoying episodes ever. :dry:

[John Locke]

Yeah this is strange. I don't understand are they trying to parody Christmas specials. It's just making the whole thing bad. They need to leave the parodies to Community. Also why wasn't Quinn credited in the special? Is she not in it? Sure they made it seem like she'd rather help Sue but they should have said something if that was the case.

[Specter313]

I'd like to also add sloppy to my description.

[John Locke]

Now that I think about it Sam and the Irish kid weren't credited either, strange.

[John Locke]

Maybe the Irish guy was cause he's in it now.

[Speedball]

Well... I was liking it till "Do they know it's Christmas?". I hate that song with a passion. There won't be snow in Africa, because 3/4 of it is in Summer, and not EVERYONE in the world is Christian. And it was very inappropriately placed. Talk about rubbing it in.

[Specter313]

The episode was just so "Eh..."

And it was written by Noxon, so I'm not completely surprised.

[Speedball]

I like the budding bromance between Sam and Rory, but that damned song REALLY killed the episode. Like shot it in the head with a shotgun.

[John Locke]

Why did they have to devote half the episode to the special and doesn't that disqualify them or were they not paid.

[Speedball]

Why did they have to devote half the episode to the special and doesn't that disqualify them or were they not paid.

I think they had a budget, but I don't think they were paid, unless the turkey counts as being paid.

[JustABill]

Worst episode of Glee ever. Seriously nothing is as bad as this episode. It was basically an hour of messy nothingness.

[Speedball]

So this episode of Glee was directed by Matthew Morrison. Explains why the "Do they know it's Christmas?" scene was inappropriate and awkward to watch. And "My Favorite Things" is NOT and NEVER will be a Christmas song. It mention snow and presents, big whoop. Could be anytime of year in Austria.
I enjoyed it when I watched it, but looking back on it, the only good thing about the episode was the bromance and the 1.5 seconds of Chewbacca.

I think there needs to be a petition for Glee to not do another Christmas "special". Two years in a row is one too many.

[spideyboy_1111]

This ep is only halfway through, but it's already one of the more bland, annoying episodes ever. :dry:

Yeah this is strange. I don't understand are they trying to parody Christmas specials. It's just making the whole thing bad. They need to leave the parodies to Community. Also why wasn't Quinn credited in the special? Is she not in it? Sure they made it seem like she'd rather help Sue but they should have said something if that was the case.

Well... I was liking it till "Do they know it's Christmas?". I hate that song with a passion. There won't be snow in Africa, because 3/4 of it is in Summer, and not EVERYONE in the world is Christian. And it was very inappropriately placed. Talk about rubbing it in.

I'll agree that it was pretty "meh" I didn't expect it to really be anything substantial to the story arc's this season or anything close, but I do really wish the episode was more about everyone coming up with there own "christmas special" ideas/fantasy's rather than just have the majority of it be a really long (and mostly lame) take on Judy Garland's with a TEENIE (and completely irrelevant) addition of star wars. Yeah... it'd sort of be like the Brittney/Brittany episode... but it would have been a vast improvement.

that being said the songs I thought were all done pretty well (though most seemed like very odd choices)


and as for you Speedball... I don't know about everyone else... but I'm not a Christian, and very far from it... but I still celebrate Christmas, i just don't really think of the word "Christ" being attached to it. The holiday season (at least for me) has always been about conforming beliefs, and evolving and uniting everyone together. It's even been that way since the Christian's adapted Pegan traditions (and the Xmas date). Everything from an Xmas tree, Wreath's, caroling, gift giving, stockings, santa clause, snow men, Christmas lights, holly, fruit cake, mistletoe, etc.. come from so many different religions and cultures that Christmas would look alot different without that. So i really don't get offended when people use the term, and actually tend to find it more offensive when people complain about "Christmas being a christian holiday" when... these days, it's really not that isolated.

[spideyboy_1111]

So this episode of Glee was directed by Matthew Morrison. Explains why the "Do they know it's Christmas?" scene was inappropriate and awkward to watch. And "My Favorite Things" is NOT and NEVER will be a Christmas song. It mention snow and presents, big whoop. Could be anytime of year in Austria.
I enjoyed it when I watched it, but looking back on it, the only good thing about the episode was the bromance and the 1.5 seconds of Chewbacca.

I think there needs to be a petition for Glee to not do another Christmas "special". Two years in a row is one too many.

im as lost as you are on that... but it's been on Christmas CD's since practically it's conception. so like it or not, it is.

and... Im fine with Glee doing one yearly.. I actually really liked last years, this years just needed a major tweak.

[Speedball]

and as for you Speedball... I don't know about everyone else... but I'm not a Christian, and very far from it... but I still celebrate Christmas, i just don't really think of the word "Christ" being attached to it. The holiday season (at least for me) has always been about conforming beliefs, and evolving and uniting everyone together. It's even been that way since the Christian's adapted Pegan traditions (and the Xmas date). Everything from an Xmas tree, Wreath's, caroling, gift giving, stockings, santa clause, snow men, Christmas lights, holly, fruit cake, mistletoe, etc.. come from so many different religions and cultures that Christmas would look alot different without that. So i really don't get offended when people use the term, and actually tend to find it more offensive when people complain about "Christmas being a christian holiday" when... these days, it's really not that isolated.

While there are Christians in Africa, not all of the people the song is aiming to help celebrate or even know about Christmas. They have more important things to worry about. It's just a terrible song anyway. They could have easily just sang Jingle Bells and made everyone happy.

[Speedball]

im as lost as you are on that... but it's been on Christmas CD's since practically it's conception. so like it or not, it is.

and... Im fine with Glee doing one yearly.. I actually really liked last years, this years just needed a major tweak.

There hasn't been a halloween episode yet. They should have done that this year.

I think my main problem is that I've been hearing this music everyday for the majority of my day for the past few weeks and It's driving me crazy.

At least they didn't do the Sinatra version of the song. It's just horrible.

[spideyboy_1111]

While there are Christians in Africa, not all of the people the song is aiming to help celebrate or even know about Christmas. They have more important things to worry about. It's just a terrible song anyway. They could have easily just sang Jingle Bells and made everyone happy.

I think you SEVERELY underestimate the amount of Christianity in Africa... It's a Continent that yes, has many severe problems... but It along with South America are pretty much known as "the land of missionaries" Christian's have always been flocking to those continents to "teach" the people... It's also no wonder why Africa has also been having a growing homophobia problem...

and besides all that... the route of the song is about feeding the people that can't feed themselves... ? i really don't see what's wrong with that message.... ?

[SuperT]

This had to be quite possibly one of the worst episodes of a television program I have seen in quite some time now and I sat through every season of Heroes.

[spideyboy_1111]

There hasn't been a halloween episode yet. They should have done that this year.

I think my main problem is that I've been hearing this music everyday for the majority of my day for the past few weeks and It's driving me crazy.

At least they didn't do the Sinatra version of the song. It's just horrible.

... ill disagree... Sinatra can do no wrong!

[Sawyer]

Is it just me........ or does Finn's kissing face tend to look vaguely like the face of a baby that just took a dump in its diaper? :o

[Speedball]

I think you SEVERELY underestimate the amount of Christianity in Africa... It's a Continent that yes, has many severe problems... but It along with South America are pretty much known as "the land of missionaries" Christian's have always been flocking to those continents to "teach" the people... It's also no wonder why Africa has also been having a growing homophobia problem...

and besides all that... the route of the song is about feeding the people that can't feed themselves... ? i really don't see what's wrong with that message.... ?

There's nothing wrong with the message, the song itself needs to be written better. There's not going to be snow there, because it's the Summer.

And I'm tired and not thinking that great. Yeah, Africa was basically bombarded by missionaries when Europe decided it needed to be colonized. But their mission wasn't to spread the word of the magical day when you get presents from a fat man who stalks you at all times of the day, it was to spread the word of God.

They (Bono and whoever else was wrote that PoS) should have written song that could have been used all year round, not for one month out of the year.

[Speedball]

... ill disagree... Sinatra can do no wrong!

It sounds like he's bored as hell, sitting on a stool, smoking a cigar, and just phoning it in. I want to hear Julie Andrews barge into whatever studio or lounge he's singing in a punch him for half-assing her song.

[Speedball]

Is it just me........ or does Finn's kissing face tend to look vaguely like the face of a baby that just took a dump in its diaper? :o
:hehe:
Yeah, that face he made after he kissed her was weird.

[Sawyer]

Artie's special just started........ what in the blue **** is this? :dry:

Sorry, scratch that. What in the black and white **** is this?! :dry::dry::dry:

[spideyboy_1111]

There's nothing wrong with the message, the song itself needs to be written better. There's not going to be snow there, because it's the Summer.
This ---->And I'm tired and not thinking that great. would explain this --->Yeah, Africa was basically bombarded by missionaries when Europe decided it needed to be colonized. But their mission wasn't to spread the word of the magical day when you get presents from a fat man who stalks you at all times of the day, it was to spread the word of God.


lol, the same could be said about many holiday songs.... and ehrm... i wasn't just talking about the colonization of africa... I was talking about modern day mostly. But... even still... the song isnt FOR africa... it's propaganda FOR the US and UK and other "1st world" countries to give to the "3rd world" ones... you wouldn't sing that song to a bunch of starving/war torn african's

[Speedball]

Artie's special just started........ what in the blue **** is this? :dry:

Sorry, scratch that. What in the black and white **** is this?! :dry::dry::dry:

There was some blue! on the oddly bent lightsaber that Finn had.

[Speedball]

lol, the same could be said about many holiday songs.... and ehrm... i wasn't just talking about the colonization of africa... I was talking about modern day mostly. But... even still... the song isnt FOR africa... it's propaganda FOR the US and UK and other "1st world" countries to give to the "3rd world" ones... you wouldn't sing that song to a bunch of starving/war torn african's

The same way it shouldn't have been sung for a whole bunch of homeless mothers and children.
And I REALLY just effing hate that song. It's like the Bird is the Word, except this song actually makes my nose bleed.
I was waiting for Sue to yell at them and ask what the heck they thought they were doing.

[Schlosser85]

Why do their Christmas episodes have to be so ridiculous? The one last year was totally over-the-top and made Brittany and Sue complete cartoon characters, and this one spent way too much time on the Christmas special when it could have been used more productively on showing how Wemma, Finchel, Klaine, etc. spent Christmas together, or on Sam/Rory's budding bromance, or on the homeless kids.

The idea of Kurt and Blaine's immaculate Swiss chalet where they host Christmas parties is amusing in a future fanfic kind of way, and it's mildly amusing the way they parody the '50s with Kurt introducing Blaine as his "best friend and holiday roommate", but they just go on with it too long and the mild humor is worn out fast.

"Let It Snow" was cute, I liked "All I Want for Christmas Is You", I even thought Blaine and Rachel's duet was cute, more for the way Twitter BFFs Darren and Lea play with each other than the cheesy song they came up with, but that's about all that was of value in the episode. Oh, Darren did have a random background LOL moment with how pleased with himself he looked when Sue called him "Young Burt Reynolds".

And "Do They Know It's Christmas" is a patronizing song by self-absorbed celebrities like Bono patting themselves on the back about what great magnanimous people they are. I applaud celebrities using their fame, money, and influence to support worthy causes, but not when it's done with Bono and co.'s blatantly self-promoting "LOOK! I'M BEING CHARITABLE! TAKE A PICTURE OF ME TOUCHING THIS STARVING AFRICAN CHILD!"

[Sawyer]

There was some blue! on the oddly bent lightsaber that Finn had.

It was bent, wasn't it? A bent lightsaber.... pfft. That man is no Jedi. :o

[Speedball]

And "Do They Know It's Christmas" is a patronizing song by self-absorbed celebrities like Bono patting themselves on the back about what great magnanimous people they are. I applaud celebrities using their fame, money, and influence to support worthy causes, but not when it's done with Bono and co.'s blatantly self-promoting "LOOK! I'M BEING CHARITABLE! TAKE A PICTURE OF ME TOUCHING THIS STARVING AFRICAN CHILD!"

THANK YOU!!!

Here's an idea. Film the Christmas special at McKinley, invite the homeless to the show, and have a nice dinner for them in the cafeteria afterward? Was that really so hard to plan?
My school used to shelter the homeless in the gym on cold nights. Maybe have Sam connect with a kid and talk about when his family was homeless.

Instead of Artie being a total ass to Sue, maybe they should have just done something to include both the holiday special and the homeless.:doh:

[spideyboy_1111]

THANK YOU!!!

Here's an idea. Film the Christmas special at McKinley, invite the homeless to the show, and have a nice dinner for them in the cafeteria afterward? Was that really so hard to plan?
My school used to shelter the homeless in the gym on cold nights. Maybe have Sam connect with a kid and talk about when his family was homeless.

Instead of Artie being a total ass to Sue, maybe they should have just done something to include both the holiday special and the homeless.:doh:

yeah, i honestly thought they were going to have the homeless come to the taping and be included in it...

still wish they would have parodied MULTIPLE christmas specials... but they took a really lame way of doing it.

[Sawyer]

Will is proposing to Emma? :dry:

For. ****. SAKE! Is he trying to make her develop a fetish for this sort of thing? Two years ago, she was engaged to Ken. A year ago, she was married to John Stamos. Now this? Good God.... I hope he's ready for the very real possibility that this union will go to **** by this time next year, when and where she will end up engaged to a very legal former student, Noah Puckerman. :o

Better prepare yourself, William.

[Sawyer]

BTW, what a waste of an hour.

Thanks, Glee. Merry ****ing Christmas to you as well. :o

[Schlosser85]

The Christmas special could have been cute if it'd only been a few minutes long. But 2/3 of the freaking episode, and I was ready to poke my eye out.

[spideyboy_1111]

The Christmas special could have been cute if it'd only been a few minutes long. But 2/3 of the freaking episode, and I was ready to poke my eye out.

it needed a big shake up... and I kept waiting for Chewy to come back :( and he never came :(:(:(

[Sawyer]

Yeah, for them frothing at the mouth about bringing him on the show, that was a ****ing joke. A three second cameo?! Come on! :cmad:

[spideyboy_1111]

ironically.... my friends on the west coast (who have been EXTREME skeptics of the show) loved this episode.... *i am so confused*

[ravn0s]

can't decide which ep was worse, this one or a night of neglect from season 2

[Mogwai]

don't you think they were going for bad?? they just wanted to be campy and focus on the songs.

[Primal Slayer]

It was an ok episode but what is up with them cutting so many scenes lately? They cut Santanas solo (which they show in the promo...) and her whole storyline with Finn this episode and Sues flashback scene 2 episodes ago. The christmas special shouldve been cut down and been able to view to the whole thing on the website or on dvd. It was to boring to have to sit through all that time with Kurt and Blaine.

And I am so beyond tired of the writers forgetting that there are more couples to Glee besides Finchel and Klaine. Mike Chang wasnt even in Arties xmas special but was credited and would it have hurt them to give some of Finchels sccenes to Tina/Mike?

Also when can Quinn rejoin the Cheerios? The girl is only sane when she has Sue breathing down her neck.

[Schlosser85]

It was an ok episode but what is up with them cutting so many scenes lately? They cut Santanas solo (which they show in the promo...) and her whole storyline with Finn this episode and Sues flashback scene 2 episodes ago. .

There was also a deleted scene this episode of Blaine giving Kurt a present, they even released a promo pic of it beforehand.

[J'adore]

It was an ok episode but what is up with them cutting so many scenes lately? They cut Santanas solo (which they show in the promo...) and her whole storyline with Finn this episode and Sues flashback scene 2 episodes ago. The christmas special shouldve been cut down and been able to view to the whole thing on the website or on dvd. It was to boring to have to sit through all that time with Kurt and Blaine.

And I am so beyond tired of the writers forgetting that there are more couples to Glee besides Finchel and Klaine. Mike Chang wasnt even in Arties xmas special but was credited and would it have hurt them to give some of Finchels sccenes to Tina/Mike?

Also when can Quinn rejoin the Cheerios? The girl is only sane when she has Sue breathing down her neck.

:hrt::hrt::hrt:

EDIT: Mike was in the xmas special! Right before the Cheerios came on.

[Schlosser85]

The Christmas special could have been cute and mildly amusing if it'd only been a few minutes long. But when 2/3 of the episode is literally nothing but Klaine/Rachel/Mercedes/etc. trading cornball 1950s banter and bursting into cheesy Christmas songs, it brings the entire episode to a full stop.

[marvelman2006]

It was ok, some of the christmas songs were good but maybe its me but sometimes this show really goes the kid mentality route where there say stuff in a baby boober way or act like a baby. Like how they talk about santa, it's like hearing 11 year olds talk. I also didnt like rachael demanding gifts from fin who correct me if Im wrong but is in high school and has no job, where did he get money? she as well had money for an ipod? Also is it me or did they give away plot details for almost the rest of the season?

The irish kid needs to go too, his accent is too strong and sometimes I cant even hear what hes saying. Plus he sings nothing but boring songs. I think a bad first 5-6 episodes and two week breaks hurt this season and I would be shocked if it comes back for season 4.

[J'adore]

At the end of the day, it was a Christmas special. Although I didn't like the plot-lack and the klainchel show, I had to push it aside in the spirit of Christmas! So bring on Yes/No in 2012!

[DACrowe]

I actually really enjoyed this episode. It was sappy and silly, but very entertaining. It was also much better than last year's Christmas special with Sue dressing up like the Grinch--most of all it had better music (though Finn and Puck trying to cover for Bruce was a bit painful).

My only real critique is they are now 2-for-2 in Christmas episodes that failed to let Lea Michele sing "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" and they even mentioned Judy Garland this episode! Talk about missing the perfect song for the voice twice! Oh well.

[Hunter Rider]

I felt a bit gloomy when I sat down to watch the Christmas ep and felt picked up afterwards, it was corny but in the best possible way. :yay:

[Primal Slayer]

This blog is always on point (imo) with their episode reviews. They also do great character evaluations.
http://www.drshebloggo.com/
Especially when it comes to how gener roles are always treated in this show
http://www.drshebloggo.com/2011/09/gender-and-glee-kickoff.html

[Havok83]

I saw the episode this morning and thought it was awful. It didnt even feel like an episode. Felt like filler with no plot and straight up singing

[J'adore]

Well...It was a Christmas special.

[Sawyer]

Doesn't mean it had to be awful. :o

Also, a Golden Globe nomination for best comedy? Over Community? You ****ing kidding me?

[Donut]

Its the season for Sawyer to be pissed la la la la la la la la la

[Sawyer]

I've actually quite liked this season for the most part. This episode was just a solid gold turd. :o

[Donut]

But a lot of your posts lately in the TV Section are not happy ones

[Sawyer]

It's happy rage. Duh. :whatever:

[JustABill]

The only nomination this show should've got was Naya Rivera for Best Everything. :up:

[Sawyer]

If there was a Best Ability to turn ****ty writing into relatively good acting award, I'd say give it to Jane. But otherwise... :csad:

[Schlosser85]

Amen. Jane is truly heroic with what she manages with some of the utter **** she is forced to do on this show.

[JustABill]

Eh. Jane was special in season 1 and deserved her win there, but in season 2 and 3 I've just felt like ''Eh. Take her or leave her."

Naya rose out of the background and made a *****y cheerleader one of the show's most endearing characters. That takes some serious talent. :up:

[JustABill]

Damn double posts.

[Hush]

One of the best episodes of the season in my opinion.

[Mogwai]

If any of you are familiar with The Real Housewives of Atlanta and/or Celebrity Apprentice, NeNe Leakes has been cast as the swim team coach, Roz Washington.

[JustABill]

Oh dear ****ing lord. No. I could take the Estefan. She's a damn legend. But seriously Pitbull, Ricky Martin and reality stars? REALLY?

[J'adore]

Well what do you expect? Glee's got bad viewing figures lately (thanks to the train-wreck that was s2) and they are desperate.

[Hunter Rider]

Has anyone got the play list for the Christmas ep?

[Mogwai]

Well what do you expect? Glee's got bad viewing figures lately (thanks to the train-wreck that was s2) and they are desperate.
yeah, they're up to something. after RM made pretty it clear that there was not going to be any stunt casting/guest stars, tributes.. ratings dictate everything, i guess.