I really, REALLY hope they keep the same score! [Archive]

AVEITWITHJAMON

10-24-2011, 01:08 PM

One thing I hate about when franchises change directors is when the score from the previous movie is totally discarded. Hell sometimes it happens when the director remains the same like with Hellboy 2 and Iron Man 2.

I loved the score for the first Thor movie, I thought it was pretty much perfect in conveying the likes of the main characters and Asgard itself. SO now Branagh aint directing and Jenkins is I just hope she doesnt change the score because when going to see a sequel there is no better feeling than hearing that familiar music again. I dont want the exact same score, as you need to keep it fresh, but I hope the main theme's are definately kept.

Anyone else think the same or would you prefer a new score?

Aeltri

10-24-2011, 02:26 PM

I think they should keep some of Doyle's stylistic elements but I am also of the opinion that his score was rather lackluster. Thor is no 'Needful Things' that's for sure. I collect and study soundtracks so I guess I am somewhat demanding compared to the more casual listener :cwink:. There is so much material to draw from for inspiration that I think someone like James Hannigan (http://www.postlinear.co.uk/index.html) should be given a chance this time around. Ironically, going with a different composer may be one good thing that comes out of Branagh's opting out of directing Thor 2.

sgaana

10-24-2011, 03:03 PM

I admit it -- I really like Doyle's score. I have "The Sons of Odin" in some of the playlists on my iPod, and I always love it when it comes up.

I do sort of agree with people, though, that it doesn't stand out quite as much as you might like music for the Norse God of Thunder to do. I think it's a lovely heroic piece, but it does lack a certain dimension of extra drama that it might have had.

I actually compare it with the score for "How to Train Your Dragon". To be fair, I'm not suggesting that the main themes for HTTYD could be used for Thor, because the HTTYD music is... well, it's very muscular and heroic and exciting, but it's also a little... cartoony. Which completely makes sense for the movie. The movie's Vikings were OTT, so its score needed to be as well.

Thor's shouldn't be as cartoony. But it could stand to be a bit more swashbuckling.

DarknessOfDeath

10-24-2011, 03:03 PM

I agree they should do a new fresh score but keep using the same pieces through out the score. I love the score to bits.

mclay18

10-24-2011, 03:05 PM

Why should it have the exact same score? If Doyle comes back for Thor 2, he wouldn't deliver the same score he did for the first one. He'll probably reuse his themes, but he'd do what Patty Jenkins wants.

Or if they get a different composer, the studio would be wise to reuse Doyle's theme anyway.

Vartha

10-24-2011, 03:11 PM

Yeah I wouldn't think they would change the Score. I mean each character movie has it's own "feel".
It would make sense if they switched from a different studio TO Marvel Studios, but, that's not the case

Godzilla2000

10-24-2011, 03:40 PM

ddddeeee

10-24-2011, 04:08 PM

I think for Loki they need to give him a darker, more evil sounding theme since it's pretty clear that he's giving in to the darkness, but they should pretty much keep some basic melodies from the original movie's score of course. Maybe add more heavenly choirs and the anguished wails of a soprano singer during sad moments.

I'd say this is very likey. Loki never had a theme to himself. He shared a theme with Thor, who also had his own theme. But their theme, the Son's Of Odin theme, was quite literally destroyed when Loki crossed the bridge. So he'll be needing a new theme. Maybe Silvestri will give us one with TA?

Either way I think Doyle is a must. He added a lot of weight to the drama scenes, imagine the scene when Thor can't pick up Mjolnir without the music. Wouldn't have been nearly as effective.

AVEITWITHJAMON

10-24-2011, 06:53 PM

I'd say this is very likey. Loki never had a theme to himself. He shared a theme with Thor, who also had his own theme. But their theme, the Son's Of Odin theme, was quite literally destroyed when Loki crossed the bridge. So he'll be needing a new theme. Maybe Silvestri will give us one with TA?

Either way I think Doyle is a must. He added a lot of weight to the drama scenes, imagine the scene when Thor can't pick up Mjolnir without the music. Wouldn't have been nearly as effective.

Agreed, I loved the music in that scene, in fact I thought the music elevated many scene's in the movie above what they may have been like if there was no music there.

Plenty of scene's spring to mind, the opening voice-over by Odin, the scene you mentioned, Thor approaching The Destroyer powerless, Thor coming back to life, the final scene between Thor and Odin as well as between Thor and Heimdall.

The score just fit superbly with the scene's it conveyed, and thats why I love it so much, so yes, Doyle is a definite must for me.

Avenger

10-24-2011, 08:31 PM

Gamma Burst

10-25-2011, 12:33 PM

I loved the score, specially 'Prologue'!

AVEITWITHJAMON

10-26-2011, 09:36 AM

As long as they bring Doyle back (and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't), then we'll definitely hear the same themes he created for the first movie, but of course expanded upon and added to in order to fit with the new movie. I really hope we don't get another IM1/IM2 situation where they replace the original composer and we get a more generic, less memorable score for the second movie.

This is what i'm worried about, IM1's score wasnt that good, but it was better than the one we got for IM2 thats for sure, and the score in Thor was pretty damn good in my eyes, so I just hope they keep the main theme's at least.

chiefchirpa

10-27-2011, 12:10 AM

This is what i'm worried about, IM1's score wasnt that good, but it was better than the one we got for IM2 thats for sure, and the score in Thor was pretty damn good in my eyes, so I just hope they keep the main theme's at least.

The heck, "Driving with the Top Down" wasn't that good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9PhfUsFvj0

Avenger

10-27-2011, 01:41 AM

I love that song. I thought it was very catchy and memorable. Whereas Iron Man's new theme in the second movie was basically generic fanfare.

Guhndoi

10-27-2011, 02:44 AM

Vartha

10-27-2011, 09:38 AM

.....maybe Aveit has a nice visual going on his computer while it plays lol

AVEITWITHJAMON

10-27-2011, 10:05 AM

The heck, "Driving with the Top Down" wasn't that good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9PhfUsFvj0

It was okay, I still wouldnt compare it to the best score's in this genre, but its much better than anything in IM2.

Don't you mean ears?

.....maybe Aveit has a nice visual going on his computer while it plays lol

Hardy-hardy ha ha :yay:.

DarknessOfDeath

10-27-2011, 10:11 AM

I liked Iron Man's score but I prefer Thor's score and TIH isn't that bad either. My favourite is Can you see Sif er I mean Jane? Urgent Matter, sons of Odin and definately the Prologue.

chiefchirpa

10-27-2011, 10:22 AM

It was okay, I still wouldnt compare it to the best score's in this genre, but its much better than anything in IM2.

Of course, but "Driving with Top Down" doesn't sound that "superhero" and more like natural metal & electronica tune coming out of an action movie. Like in the youtube comments, someone would turn it on his car radio as his morning drive jam. Put in Thor's tune or Superman's people notice it's coming out of a superhero movie.

And yeah Debney's IM2 is just not memorable at all.

Vartha

10-27-2011, 10:49 AM

It was okay, I still wouldnt compare it to the best score's in this genre, but its much better than anything in IM2.

Hardy-hardy ha ha :yay:.
:D WHAT? I was sticking up for ya! :D

Imagine THIS on your media player :D
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Lady Marion

10-27-2011, 02:35 PM

Imagine THIS on your media player :D
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5024/psychedelic.png

What is that? :wow::wow::wow: Did I smoke something bad?

I like the soundtrack and they should keep some memorable themes, Thor's theme or 'Prologue' for instance. And it would be cool if Loki gets an own theme particulary when he's still the villain. Something dark that you know by the sound when he's coming.

Originally Posted by ddddeeee http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=21725601#post21725601)

Either way I think Doyle is a must. He added a lot of weight to the drama scenes, imagine the scene when Thor can't pick up Mjolnir without the music. Wouldn't have been nearly as effective.
Exactly

Gamma Burst

10-27-2011, 08:25 PM

Yes, I too hope Doyle stays for the sequel.

AVEITWITHJAMON

10-31-2011, 07:10 AM

Of course, but "Driving with Top Down" doesn't sound that "superhero" and more like natural metal & electronica tune coming out of an action movie. Like in the youtube comments, someone would turn it on his car radio as his morning drive jam. Put in Thor's tune or Superman's people notice it's coming out of a superhero movie.

And yeah Debney's IM2 is just not memorable at all.

I personally didnt think Thor's was a typical superhero movie score and thats what I liked about it, it was different and mainly, epic.

Iron Man's was also different but not in that good of a way, it was a bit low-key (or should that be Loki :cwink:). But, it was better than anything in IM2.

:D WHAT? I was sticking up for ya! :D

I know I know :yay:.

Godzilla2000

10-31-2011, 09:32 AM

I'd say this is very likey. Loki never had a theme to himself. He shared a theme with Thor, who also had his own theme. But their theme, the Son's Of Odin theme, was quite literally destroyed when Loki crossed the bridge. So he'll be needing a new theme. Maybe Silvestri will give us one with TA?

Regardless of who creates Loki his own theme, I think to reflect his growing megalomania and madness it should be a dark and discordant theme, perhaps accentuated with some demonic male chanting and pipe organs in the background.

Either way I think Doyle is a must. He added a lot of weight to the drama scenes, imagine the scene when Thor can't pick up Mjolnir without the music. Wouldn't have been nearly as effective.

Yes, I agree that the music Doyle came up with for that scene pretty much enhanced that scene. It was just a heartbreaking thing to watch with that strain of music playing along with it because it was quite a beautiful movement.

Ultra Lantern

11-23-2011, 12:11 AM

I'd like the same score.

AVEITWITHJAMON

11-23-2011, 05:51 AM

Regardless of who creates Loki his own theme, I think to reflect his growing megalomania and madness it should be a dark and discordant theme, perhaps accentuated with some demonic male chanting and pipe organs in the background.

I wouldnt even mind something like the Magneto theme in FC, it was perfectly done because you could just tell it was for a character who had evil in them.

Yes, I agree that the music Doyle came up with for that scene pretty much enhanced that scene. It was just a heartbreaking thing to watch with that strain of music playing along with it because it was quite a beautiful movement.

It was perfect for the scene, as Thor is smiling as he's circling Mjolnir and the truimphant music is playing only to turn to dour music once Thor realises he cant lift it, it really was perfect.

Gamma Burst

11-23-2011, 07:42 AM

Yes, it was great moment.

Aeltri

11-23-2011, 03:24 PM

Regardless of who creates Loki his own theme, I think to reflect his growing megalomania and madness it should be a dark and discordant theme, perhaps accentuated with some demonic male chanting and pipe organs in the background.

Something like this you mean:

http://www.*******.com/files/2009/12/21/2697239//LAUFEYSON.mp3

That would certainly fit Loki IMO.

ladyloki

11-30-2011, 08:21 PM

I want the same composer ... but a mix of old and new scores.

AVEITWITHJAMON

12-09-2011, 06:49 AM

^Same here, I hope, whoever the new director is I really hope he keeps the same theme's from the first movie and doesnt decide to go with a completely new score as the one from the first movie was perfect.

ddddeeee

12-30-2011, 08:28 AM

AVEITWITHJAMON

01-04-2012, 03:39 AM

^I hope thats not the case, I liked his score for Apes, but his Thor score was much more memorable for me and fit the character perfectly. If we got another score in Apes 2 it wouldnt bother me any were near as much as it would with Thor 2.

mclay18

02-04-2012, 10:45 PM

Just noticed that Thor 2's start date is only a month before ROTPOTA2's. Doyle had five months to score the first Apes so there's probably going to be a big overlap here. Since Wyatt is returning and Branagh isn't, I'm sure Doyle would choose Apes if he can only fit one into his schedule.

I haven't heard ANYTHING about "Rise of the Apes 2" going into production this summer or this fall... yet. Fox locked down the returning director, writers, and Andy Serkis -- that's it for now. But nothing yet on whether Fox is happy with a script (which I'm sure Silver and Jaffa are doing right now) to fast-track production like they did with the first. I wouldn't fret until Fox sets a release date and announces filming.

Even if "Apes 2" lands summer 2013, Doyle will have time to do both movies if he wants to, since "Thor 2" is coming out in the fall. Marvel Studios and Disney sees an opportunity to capitalize on the pre-Thanksgiving spots vacated by HP and Twilight.

If Doyle comes back, I want him to arrange his main theme similarly like he did with Man to Man's gorgeous end credits cue. See here:

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BigThor

02-05-2012, 12:37 AM

I sure hope THOR II's release date gets pushed up to an earlier release date, because as it stands we want see the film until just a little under 2 years from now. :dry:

mclay18

02-05-2012, 10:45 AM

I sure hope THOR II's release date gets pushed up to an earlier release date, because as it stands we want see the film until just a little under 2 years from now. :dry:

Let them take their time. I don't want Marvel to rush Thor 2 like they did with Iron Man 2.

AVEITWITHJAMON

02-14-2012, 07:54 AM

I haven't heard ANYTHING about "Rise of the Apes 2" going into production this summer or this fall... yet. Fox locked down the returning director, writers, and Andy Serkis -- that's it for now. But nothing yet on whether Fox is happy with a script (which I'm sure Silver and Jaffa are doing right now) to fast-track production like they did with the first. I wouldn't fret until Fox sets a release date and announces filming.

Even if "Apes 2" lands summer 2013, Doyle will have time to do both movies if he wants to, since "Thor 2" is coming out in the fall. Marvel Studios and Disney sees an opportunity to capitalize on the pre-Thanksgiving spots vacated by HP and Twilight.

If Doyle comes back, I want him to arrange his main theme similarly like he did with Man to Man's gorgeous end credits cue. See here:

f8k-j0azYH4

I think 2014 will be when the Rise sequel hits, same with First Class 2, so Doyle should hopefully be able to come back and improve on his excellent score for the first movie.

Let them take their time. I don't want Marvel to rush Thor 2 like they did with Iron Man 2.

Definately, IM2 was so dissapointing, I hope Thor improves on the first movie unlike IM2 did.

arnold friend

05-24-2012, 11:42 AM

has there been any confirmation or news of Doyle returning yet? I LOVE the score in Thor and I have to admit my very high hopes for the sequel will fall some if Doyle is replaced.

During Odin's voiceover, "...return to the realm eternal, Asgard." when the camera comes up through the water and we see Asgard for the first time, the music is perfect. So majestic.

The main theme is just so great because it works in triumphant scenes (like Thor coming back to life) and tragic scenes (like when he can't lift the hammer).

ddddeeee

05-24-2012, 02:57 PM

So far they're not reusing any of the crew from the first movie.

PokeJ

05-24-2012, 05:57 PM

I loved the Thor score. My favorites from the Soundtrack were Odin Confesses and Thor Kills the Destroyer. Great music.

mclay18

05-24-2012, 07:01 PM

So far they're not reusing any of the crew from the first movie.

Well, when you have a completely new director on board, plus re-locating filming to the UK... it's expected. It is nice seeing some of the Game of Thrones personnel on board.

But that doesn't mean Doyle won't return, as it's too early to say (I expect the composer to be announced early next year). Marvel may want Doyle back, or Alan Taylor might.

Silvermoth

05-25-2012, 06:23 AM

Having the old composer would be a nice way to keep continuity. As a previous poster mentioned, with a new director and possibly crew, it's a nice way to bring it all together.

AVEITWITHJAMON

05-28-2012, 06:34 AM

Well I just hope both for continuity and because I and a lot of others seemed to love the score that Taylor brings Doyle back. I hate it when a sequel changes the music from the first movie.

Its so much better when you settle down to watch a sequel and that familiar theme comes on at the start to get you all excited. Hate it when they rob us of that.

The Morningstar

05-28-2012, 06:36 AM

Even if they change the score, they keep that reoccurring motif from Doyle's.

AVEITWITHJAMON

05-28-2012, 06:38 AM

^Well yeah, as long as that main theme is there it should be fine, but I hope they keep most of the score from the first movie personally.

mclay18

05-28-2012, 10:31 PM

Having the old composer would be a nice way to keep continuity. As a previous poster mentioned, with a new director and possibly crew, it's a nice way to bring it all together.

I didn't expect Alan Silvestri to come on for The Avengers, after doing Captain America. But I guess Marvel actually wanted some thematic or tonal continuity, so they got him back.

Hopefully the same will play out for Thor 2.

ddddeeee

06-12-2012, 02:59 PM

Are you signed for the sequels to “Thor” and “Rise of the Planet of the Apes?”
Ken isn’t doing “Thor,” so I’m not sure if I’ll be asked. But I am having a meeting quite soon about “Dawn of the Apes” film.

http://www.filmmusicmag.com/?p=9644

ddddeeee

08-30-2012, 09:14 AM

YES!

SK: You have had a really incredible couple years, scoring PLANET OF THE APES (2011), THOR (2011) and then now BRAVE. Is there any talk yet about you being on board for the next PLANET OF THE APES or even the next THOR movie?

PD: Well it’s being discussed at the moment. (Laughs) That’s all I can say. I’m having meetings with the directors, so that’s the hope.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58017?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

AVEITWITHJAMON

08-30-2012, 12:59 PM

^Excellent news, hopefully the talks go well and we can get Doyle back to score this, LOVED his score for the first movie it was perfect, so many good moments in the movie were even better because of the score.

Oberon sexton

09-01-2012, 02:35 AM

Thank the Gods! Doyle was the best of the Marvel composers so its great that he could be returning!!! :awesome:

Lady Marion

09-01-2012, 06:01 AM

Yeah, that would be awesome. I like the Thor score most of all MCU scores, too. While listening I can imagine what's going on in the movie. That's what doesn't work for me with the TA score, for instance. So I keep my fingers crossed for Doyles' return.