Thor 2 news, speculation and pictures possible Spoilers - Part 1

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[Vartha]

Welcome to the First Thor 2 news thread!
Keep in mind, same rules NO leaked pictures or video still apply.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Question, are there vampires in the nine realms?? Just wondering if Kate Beckinsale were to be in any Thor Sequel, what role could she play?

Sorry... I just saw the trailer to Underworld 4 and it looks good.

[TheCorpulent1]

No vampires. The Nine Realms are more Tolkien, less Twilight. ;)

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well I dunno... maybe an evil elf. or Enchantress?

[Gamma Burst]

She could be a Valkyrie. ;)

[DarknessOfDeath]

Whats a Valkyrie?

[Juicy J]

Any word on when this even starts shooting? Is there even a script yet?

[Gamma Burst]

Whats a Valkyrie?

Take a look here, my friend: ;)

http://marvel.wikia.com/Valkyrior

[TheCorpulent1]

They're the choosers of the honored dead. They'd fly down after a battle and pick which dead warriors got to go to Valhalla.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Oh... I don't know about that. Do they kick some butt? lol :p probably not.

[TheCorpulent1]

In the Marvel universe, they most certainly do. Brunnhilde (one of Thor's many exes) is the main Valkyrie in Marvel's comics, and she's pretty much a ridiculous badass. She and War Machine are the Secret Avengers' "big guns" right now. :)

[DarknessOfDeath]

*thinks* Big guns... Kate Beckinsale... Badass... yeah I can see that :)

Oh well. It will never happen anyway, not even for a Thor Sequel.

[TheCorpulent1]

Brunnhilde's blonde, but I suppose they could fudge that or dye Beckinsale's hair. :)

[Gamma Burst]

In the Marvel universe, they most certainly do. Brunnhilde (one of Thor's many exes) is the main Valkyrie in Marvel's comics, and she's pretty much a ridiculous badass. She and War Machine are the Secret Avengers' "big guns" right now. :)

Yeah, and that's my favourite Avengers ongoing by far.
Also, it's great that she's getting the spotlight in Fearless!

[DarknessOfDeath]

I've never read any of the Avengers comics... suppose its worth the read.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, and that's my favourite Avengers ongoing by far.
Also, it's great that she's getting the spotlight in Fearless!
I prefer Avengers Academy, but Rick Remender sounds like he has some cool ideas for his upcoming run on Secret Avengers.

[Gamma Burst]

I've never read any of the Avengers comics... suppose its worth the read.

Yes, there are many good stories about them in their 50 years of existence.
You should read some of their comics and see if you like them.:cool:

[Gamma Burst]

I prefer Avengers Academy, but Rick Remender sounds like he has some cool ideas for his upcoming run on Secret Avengers.

LOL I ''forgot'' about AA. It's awesome, indeed. Gage is one of the best writers in Marvel nowadays.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, he seems to have a knack for writing pretty much anything well.

[mclay18]

Any word on when this even starts shooting? Is there even a script yet?

They'll at least have to start shooting either around or after Iron Man 3 finishes principal photography next year. (Which would be mid- to late 2012, probably in the late summer/early fall.)

And I'm sure Don Payne has a couple of drafts done that Marvel and Patty Jenkins are looking at. If they're smart they'll bring in fresh writers to do rewrites on Payne's drafts, before they begin early pre-production.

[cherokeesam]

Well I dunno... maybe an evil elf. or Enchantress?


There's plenty of other (blonder) choices for Enchantress; but Beckinsale could make a decent Karnilla or even Hela.

[BigThor]

There's plenty of other (blonder) choices for Enchantress;Beckinsale could make a decent Karnilla or even Hela.

True :cool:

Yeah I could definately see Kate Beckinsale as Karnilla, I don't know about Hela though.

In the Marvel universe, they most certainly do. Brunnhilde (one of Thor's many exes) is the main Valkyrie in Marvel's comics, and she's pretty much a ridiculous badass. She and War Machine are the Secret Avengers' "big guns" right now. :)

Man I completely forgot about Brunnhilde being a Secret Avenger, how have they been treating her character so far?

[Shadowlord X]

Brunnhilde is an interesting character that could play a significant role in a future THOR sequel. Her story could be that she and the Valkyrior stayed on Earth and would carry the bodies of great fallen Earth warriors to Asgard to be immortalised. Then when Odin decided to retract all direct Asgardian intervention and interaction here, she resisted because she felt that Earth's primitive cultures benefitted from their influence to rise above base desires / needs. She stayed on Earth in voluntary exile pretending to be a mortal. She could play a significant role in trying to influence THOR to stay on Earth when he is having that personal conflict wrt to choosing between Earth and Asgard.

[Godzilla2000]

No vampires. The Nine Realms are more Tolkien, less Twilight. ;)

That's all we'd need in the Thor Universe...sparkling vampires. >_< Unless Blade becomes part of Marvel's movie properties I don't think we'll be seeing any vampires at all.

That and I was just thinking of this but vampires aren't just fanged creatures that feed off of the blood of others. There can be humanoids that feed off of life energy to give themselves power that could technically be considered vampiric in nature without even having to attack a living thing. So maybe a "vampire" in that sense could exist in the Thor Universe.

[04nbod]

Looking through the nine realms:

Alfheim
Asgard
Hel
Jotunheim
Midgard
Muspelheim
Nidavellir
Svartalfheim
Vanaheim

Crossing out the ones we've seen. Only Hel is in any way interesting unless they are using Surtur in Muspelheim. The rest have Light/Dark Elves, dwarves and a sister race of gods. Keep in mind we are getting The Hobbit in 2012, it might not look very original. They could stretch the idea of 'other worlds' to Nornheim I guess.

[DarknessOfDeath]

True :cool:

Yeah I could definately see Kate Beckinsale as Karnilla, I don't know about Hela though.



Man I completely forgot about Brunnhilde being a Secret Avenger, how have they been treating her character so far?

Karnilla? I also thought about Hela too. :o

[Godzilla2000]

Hel

Oh no, I'm thinking of an old Nightwish song now called Planet Hell.

With Hela they'd have a lot of explaining to do since your average moviegoer is going to be scratching their heads at the fact Loki's daughter seems to be about the same age as he is. That and Hela's conception is never hinted at in Thor. In order to properly set her up in the movie universe some characters will have to be put on the sidelines. I think we can use Spider-man 3 as a precedence for why putting too many characters in a movie is a bad idea because you can't stay focused on one story and give the plot coherence. With a character like Hela you need to spend a lot of time on her back story and make it plausible to people who have never read the comics at all. I'd think with Hela her conception would involve a little Time Traveling on Loki's part? Perhaps this is one of the things he did to keep himself amused during his 3 year self banishment?

[R_Hythlodeus]

Yes, there are many good stories about them in their 50 years of existence.
You should read some of their comics and see if you like them.:cool:
But keep in mind: There are many bad stories about them too. That's the downside of 50 years of existence.

[BigThor]

Looking through the nine realms:

Alfheim
Asgard
Hel
Jotunheim
Midgard
Muspelheim
Nidavellir
Svartalfheim
Vanaheim

Crossing out the ones we've seen. Only Hel is in any way interesting unless they are using Surtur in Muspelheim. The rest have Light/Dark Elves, dwarves and a sister race of gods. Keep in mind we are getting The Hobbit in 2012, it might not look very original. They could stretch the idea of 'other worlds' to Nornheim I guess.

Hel isn't actually a realm, it's a location in the realm of Nifflehiem and I think Muspelhiem, Nidalvellir, Svartalfhiem, and Alfhiem would also make interesting locations.

I would like to see atleast 3 new realms in Thor 2 and I'm also pretty excited about seeing Light/Dark Elves & especially the Dwarves in this franchise at some point.

[herolee10]

Do you guys think that it may be a bit repetitive if we see Thor placed in a situation where he's near death again as a result of having fought a powerful opponent, only in this situation, he'd have been fully powered at the time?

[BigThor]

Do you guys think that it may be a bit repetitive if we see Thor placed in a situation where he's near death again as a result of having fought a powerful opponent, only in this situation, he'd have been fully powered at the time?

Yeah it would be, although it would be less repetitive if they save another "near death" scene for Thor 3.

It seems like until THOR and CA:TFA came out every superhero film had the heroes getting their asses kicked in the final fight, I can understand them wanting to sell the drama but it started to get a bit old.

[Aeltri]

Looking through the nine realms:

Alfheim
Asgard
Hel
Jotunheim
Midgard
Muspelheim
Nidavellir
Svartalfheim
Vanaheim

Crossing out the ones we've seen. Only Hel is in any way interesting unless they are using Surtur in Muspelheim. The rest have Light/Dark Elves, dwarves and a sister race of gods. Keep in mind we are getting The Hobbit in 2012, it might not look very original. They could stretch the idea of 'other worlds' to Nornheim I guess.

Tolkien's elves look like beautiful humans with slightly pointed ears. To set Thor apart I would use CGI to play up the alien nature of the Ljosalfar, Dokkalfar/Svartalfar etc. like so:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/242/b/7/dark_eldar__we_are_pain_by_beckjann-d487x47.jpg

Movieverse Thor is technically sci-fantasy anyway so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch.

[Gamma Burst]

Tolkien's elves look like beautiful humans with slightly pointed ears. To set Thor apart of I would use CGI to play up the alien nature of the Ljosalfar, Dokkalfar/Svartalfar etc. like so:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/242/b/7/dark_eldar__we_are_pain_by_beckjann-d487x47.jpg

Movieverse Thor is technically sci-fantasy anyway so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch.

That could work, Aeltri!:up:

[herolee10]

Just curious, but is Thor known to be capable of wielding other weapons efficiently in the comics whenever he's been separated from his hammer (like, imagine if Thor was the other side of a continent or realm from his hammer)?

[Gamma Burst]

Just curious, but is Thor known to be capable of wielding other weapons efficiently in the comics whenever he's been separated from his hammer (like, imagine if Thor was the other side of a continent or realm from his hammer)?

Yes, he's the best warrior from Asgard, be it with a weapon or not. So, he's very accomplished with swords, axes and ther traditional weapons.

[herolee10]

Yes, he's the best warrior from Asgard, be it with a weapon or not. So, he's very accomplished with swords, axes and ther traditional weapons.

Cool; heck, I wouldn't mind if they gave a little nod to the Ultimate interpretation by showing Thor wield a similar Ax/Hammer like weapon when he doesn't have his regular one around.

Also, what I'm really hoping for is to see Thor DIRECTLY save some innocent bystanders (assuming if he's not shown to in the Avengers) this time around.

I want to see Thor where he's just not presented as being able to kick a lot of strong people's ass on the battlefield, or make last minute saves for his comrades, but see him like block debris from hitting innocent civilians or arriving last minute to eliminate an monster or something from killing someone defenseless in a more dramatic way.

Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing some crowd shots of the reactions that people would have of seeing Thor in action, especially from those who aren't used to seeing him doing those things period.

[Godzilla2000]

Also, what I'm really hoping for is to see Thor DIRECTLY save some innocent bystanders (assuming if he's not shown to in the Avengers) this time around.

I want to see Thor where he's just not presented as being able to kick a lot of strong people's ass on the battlefield, or make last minute saves for his comrades, but see him like block debris from hitting innocent civilians or arriving last minute to eliminate an monster or something from killing someone defenseless in a more dramatic way.

Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing some crowd shots of the reactions that people would have of seeing Thor in action, especially from those who aren't used to seeing him doing those things period.

Do you mean similar to the way all the people of Metropolis were put in harm's way by the three Kryptonians in Superman II? You got a real sense of the danger a huge battle like that would be to the bystanders in a populated area like a big city.

[Shadowlord X]

One story and character I would like to see them tackle a bit further down the line would be the Crusader. It's a tricky topic though.

[Vartha]

hehe check it out, we have a second thread finally! lol

[04nbod]

Hel isn't actually a realm, it's a location in the realm of Nifflehiem and I think Muspelhiem, Nidalvellir, Svartalfhiem, and Alfhiem would also make interesting locations.

I would like to see atleast 3 new realms in Thor 2 and I'm also pretty excited about seeing Light/Dark Elves & especially the Dwarves in this franchise at some point.

Isn't Niffleheim a part of Hel where the dishonourable souls go?

[herolee10]

Do you mean similar to the way all the people of Metropolis were put in harm's way by the three Kryptonians in Superman II? You got a real sense of the danger a huge battle like that would be to the bystanders in a populated area like a big city.

lol; I'm not sure if that sense I supposedly have is a curse or a gift.haha

But yeah; the point in me wanting to see Thor do all of those things is to just show that Thor isn't there just to battle it out with whatever foe comes against his way; that he's just not a warrior, but a hero who can save civilians when they're in trouble.

I'm not asking Thor to patrol the streets and lock it down with common thugs; just saying that it wouldn't hurt to see Thor be put in a position where he actively goes out to save civilians of any realms during a huge scale battle when lots of casualties and collateral damage are in the mix.

[BigThor]

Isn't Niffleheim a part of Hel where the dishonourable souls go?

I think Nifflehiem is the actual realm and Hel is a location in Nifflehiem.

But yeah; the point in me wanting to see Thor do all of those things is to just show that Thor isn't there just to battle it out with whatever foe comes against his way; that he's just not a warrior, but a hero who can save civilians when they're in trouble.

I'm not asking Thor to patrol the streets and lock it down with common thugs; just saying that it wouldn't hurt to see Thor be put in a position where he actively goes out to save civilians of any realms during a huge scale battle when lots of casualties and collateral damage are in the mix.

This could be a perfect chance to get a huge feat of strength, Thor could catch falling building or stop a large vehicle like a diesel or a bus from crashing.

[Godzilla2000]

I think this conversation might be in the other thread but DOD and I had a brief chat about the fanfictions we were both working on based on the Thor Movie Universe. I just wanted to at least update him on a development of mine recently. I'm sad to say that I just cannot write this Thor fanfiction anymore. It's just too painful an experience for me and I just can't continue with it anymore. I'm just not feeling the story I have for it anymore because it's just all in vain and has no more meaning to me. I am however going to start working on a Monster Hunter story though since that's a much less turmoil inducing project and will be something I can enjoy without my emotions getting in the way.

[Terror Inc.]

Hel is a place in Niflheim, just to clear that up.

[04nbod]

Hel is a place in Niflheim, just to clear that up.

Thank You. :woot:

[Godzilla2000]

Hel is a place in Niflheim, just to clear that up.

And here I was thinking Hel was my workplace on a weekend during the afternoon shift I have to work. :o

[Vartha]

I think Nifflehiem is the actual realm and Hel is a location in Nifflehiem.



This could be a perfect chance to get a huge feat of strength, Thor could catch falling building or stop a large vehicle like a diesel or a bus from crashing.
they're seperate realms tho. I'll bring Marvel's Yggdrasil tomorrow

[Vartha]

And here I was thinking Hel was my workplace on a weekend during the afternoon shift I have to work. :o
heh there ARE different levels to hel.....:woot:

[Godzilla2000]

heh there ARE different levels to hel.....:woot:

I swear at one place I was working years ago my boss was Hela. Thanks for clarifying the level of Hel I've been working in for so many years. :cwink:

[Vartha]

:D you're very Welcome :D

[Godzilla2000]

:D you're very Welcome :D

So how much farther up do I have to go to get Loki as my boss?

[DarknessOfDeath]

What have I missed so far?

[BigThor]

Thank You. :woot:

I said the same thing btw

[Vartha]

Yeah BT I commented about what you'd said and bod responded. Tho Nifflheim is for the unhonored dead, Hel is the plain land of the dead.

Here's Marvel's Yggdrasil
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7691/9worldsinfosheeta.png

Here's the norse version

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4981/ygg20.jpg

[Vartha]

What have I missed so far?
Not too much lol

[Gamma Burst]

The interesting thing I've learned lately is that there is another 'heaven', linked to the Vanir gods:Fólkvangr , ruled by Freyja. Half of the dead to Fólkvangr and the other half to Valhalla.:cool:

[Godzilla2000]

I've definitely been to the Well of Wyrd a few times. :p

[BigThor]

Yeah BT I commented about what you'd said and bod responded. Tho Nifflheim is for the unhonored dead, Hel is the plain land of the dead.

Here's Marvel's Yggdrasil
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7691/9worldsinfosheeta.png

So Hel is the actual realm and Niffleheim is one of the levels of Hel?

[Vartha]

The interesting thing I've learned lately is that there is another 'heaven', linked to the Vanir gods:Fólkvangr , ruled by Freyja. Half of the dead to Fólkvangr and the other half to Valhalla.:cool:
Yeah where do you think the Farmers, fishermen and so on went? Valhalla's a warriors heaven. :D

[Vartha]

So Hel is the actual realm and Niffleheim is one of the levels of Hel?
well they're all realms of the dead just seperate from one another. Even Sutur's world is seperate. It's levels of how bad you are that puts you in each realm. (IMO Hilter would be with Surtur lol)

[Vartha]

I've definitely been to the Well of Wyrd a few times. :p
lol Well who hasn't? :D

[BigThor]

well they're all realms of the dead just seperate from one another. Even Sutur's world is seperate. It's levels of how bad you are that puts you in each realm. (IMO Hilter would be with Surtur lol)

So if Hel falls under the "8th" realm and Surtur's realm falls under the "9th", where does that place Niffleheim?

[Gamma Burst]

Yeah where do you think the Farmers, fishermen and so on went? Valhalla's a warriors heaven. :D

And what if you're a warrior and a fisherman?:D

[cherokeesam]

And what if you're a warrior and a fisherman?:D


Then they sign you up for the Perpetual Pro Bass Fishing Tournament in Svartalfheim. :awesome:

I'd like to see a representation of the MCU's version of Yggdrasil and the Nine Realms, as described by Thor. If I understood him right in the movie, the Nine "Realms" are basically planets, and "Yggdrasil" is a constellation whose form is visible from Midgard (Earth).

[WildcatNC]

And what if you're a warrior and a fisherman?:D

Ah man its late. I was snickering to myself thinking of your avatar with a fishing pole instead of Mjolnir. That one of the wide throw would be a hell of a fly cast. :woot:

[Godzilla2000]

lol Well who hasn't? :D

True true. In fact I went to the Well of Wyrd last night at work. You can read it on my Twitter page. :o

[Gamma Burst]

Ah man its late. I was snickering to myself thinking of your avatar with a fishing pole instead of Mjolnir. That one of the wide throw would be a hell of a fly cast. :woot:

A Prince of Asgard doesn't fish.:o

[Godzilla2000]

A Prince of Asgard doesn't fish.:o

Not even if it's some big mouthed, flash spamming fish creature like this?
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f42/Quitto/Gobul.jpg
He is easier to hunt on land as opposed to water too so it's best to fish him out.

[Gamma Burst]

LOL. What the hell is that?

[Lady Marion]

LOL. Looks like a beast he could just hit with mjölnir.


A Prince of Asgard doesn't fish.:o

Now I can't get this picture out of my head Thor's sitting at a lake fishing. :funny:

[Godzilla2000]

LOL. What the hell is that?

That my friend is called the Gobul. He is a monster that most people who play Monster Hunter Tri absolutely hate, especially underwater where he can create whirlpools that drag you into his jaws. Like I said he is much easier to fight if you fish him out of the water with a frog as your bait, but do not go into the water in area 4 of the Flooded Forest or you'll flush him out and lose the chance to fish him out. And that little lantern on his head, when he flashes you you're dazed for a bit leaving you open to attack. You either get a safe distance away or do a timed panic dive to avert getting stunned.

LOL. Looks like a beast he could just hit with mjölnir.

Now that you've got me thinking about it I've never hammered Gobul before. I might just try that since I have a very powerful End Game hammer. Thing is hammering underwater during underwater combat is quite awkward.

P.S. The Thor movies have such nice looking costumes and armors it would be cool to see them as special Download Quest Armor sets and Weapons. I mean how cool would it be to hunt a monster in Monster Hunter as Thor or Loki? In the Japanese only game MH Portable 3rd they have Solid Snake and Big Boss armors. Marvel must partner up with Capcom and Monster Hunter!

[Vartha]

And what if you're a warrior and a fisherman?:D
The warrior sends you to Valhalla lol

[Vartha]

LOL. Looks like a beast he could just hit with mjölnir.




Now I can't get this picture out of my head Thor's sitting at a lake fishing. :funny:
....hey peeps don't forget Thor is ALSO a god of fertility....he can fish with a different pole and not at a lake...by the way Sif's a Fertility GODDESS

Basically Thor is a god of farmming. God of Thunder hence rain=good crops for farmers

[Vartha]

So if Hel falls under the "8th" realm and Surtur's realm falls under the "9th", where does that place Niffleheim?
even tho it's seperate it's still hel. The nine worlds are messed up IMO in the first place lol. The first four worlds are on Asgard the continent. lol :doh:

I'm sure trying to discribe them realms in the norse time was a real pain lol

[BigThor]

even tho it's seperate it's still hel. The nine worlds are messed up IMO in the first place lol. The first four worlds are on Asgard the continent. lol :doh:

I'm sure trying to discribe them realms in the norse time was a real pain lol

Ok cool, thanks Vartha

[TheCorpulent1]

even tho it's seperate it's still hel. The nine worlds are messed up IMO in the first place lol. The first four worlds are on Asgard the continent. lol :doh:

I'm sure trying to discribe them realms in the norse time was a real pain lol
I tend to ignore that old map of the continent of Asgard and think of each of the Nine Realms as its own world. The cosmic tree from the movie is actually a pretty cool way of looking at it.

[BigThor]

I tend to ignore that old map of the continent of Asgard and think of each of the Nine Realms as its own world. The cosmic tree from the movie is actually a pretty cool way of looking at it.

Yeah that's the easiest way to look at it.

[misjuevos]

maybe the old maps are just the ancient mortals way of understanding all these worlds. they just thought of the realms in a simpler way, i really like the planet idea. very cosmic.

[Juicy J]

Did anyone else see the newest south park? It brilliantly spoofed Thor while making fun of the history channel. It even snuck in a quick jab at the green lantern, which was hysterical

[BigThor]

maybe the old maps are just the ancient mortals way of understanding all these worlds. they just thought of the realms in a simpler way, i really like the planet idea. very cosmic.

Same here, the planetary idea is very cosmic and I've always looked as Thor as being a fairly cosmic superhero.

[kedrell]

Did anyone else see the newest south park? It brilliantly spoofed Thor while making fun of the history channel. It even snuck in a quick jab at the green lantern, which was hysterical

Yeah, it was a good episode.

[Lady Marion]

Did anyone else see the newest south park? It brilliantly spoofed Thor while making fun of the history channel. It even snuck in a quick jab at the green lantern, which was hysterical

Saw it right now, I'm still laughing. Thanks for the hint. Normally I'm not a fan of south park, but that episode was cool.

[Gamma Burst]

Did anyone else see the newest south park? It brilliantly spoofed Thor while making fun of the history channel. It even snuck in a quick jab at the green lantern, which was hysterical

What's the name of this episode?:)

[Juicy J]

Glad I could point it out to some of you!
Odinson, it's called History Channel Thanksgiving I'm pretty sure. You'll probably be able to find it online somewhere

[Gamma Burst]

Glad I could point it out to some of you!
Odinson, it's called History Channel Thanksgiving I'm pretty sure. You'll probably be able to find it online somewhere

Thanks! ''...and this planet over here no one really cares about''. :D

[Juicy J]

Thanks! ''...and this planet over here no one really cares about''. :D

That line had me in stitches hahaha

[misjuevos]

im gonna check it out

just saw it
that was awesome, even had a dune reference.

[Godzilla2000]

Is it a safe bet to say that we won't be getting too much info on this movie, like script details, new cast members, expanded villain roster, etc. etc. until after the Avengers movie?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I'd say so, they will be concentrating all of their efforts on getting The Avengers as perfect as possible, while Black and Jenkins just work out the finer details in the background, maybe a few weeks or months before Avengers we may get some small snippets though.

[BigThor]

Yeah, hopefully around the time the Avengers is released we'll be getting new info on the villain roster and other details for Iron Man 3 and THOR 2.

[Vartha]

I tend to ignore that old map of the continent of Asgard and think of each of the Nine Realms as its own world. The cosmic tree from the movie is actually a pretty cool way of looking at it.
Well even some of the old Yggdrasil drawings have the worlds the same way.
I just think of them as different levels over worlds really lol :doh:



ooooooommmmm ooooooommmmmm ooooooommmmylordIpulledsomething.



:D

[04nbod]

I said the same thing btw

Thank You too? :woot:

Yeah where do you think the Farmers, fishermen and so on went? Valhalla's a warriors heaven. :D

In the myths Thor took the hard working non-warriors into his hall which if I recall was a part of Valhalla (Odin's hall)

[Gamma Burst]

I don't if it's been already mentioned here, but I'd love to see the golden apples in Thor 2.

[Avenger]

Am I the only one who hopes they end up calling this something other than Thor 2? I had the same problem with Iron Man 2. Just tacking a number on at the end is so...bland.

[Gamma Burst]

Yeah, I'd like to see something more creative too.

The Mighty Thor for example.

[kedrell]

Given the odds of who the villain(s) will end up being in the sequel, how about Thor 2: Fatal Attraction

[BigThor]

I would like for it to be Thor 2 with a subtitle after it, I think the "2" would let people know that it's a direct sequel to the first and a subtitle after it would keep it from being bland.

[Avenger]

Yeah, I'd like to see something more creative too.

The Mighty Thor for example.Yeah, I like that. That's what I'd go with.

[Juicy J]

Am I the only one who hopes they end up calling this something other than Thor 2? I had the same problem with Iron Man 2. Just tacking a number on at the end is so...bland.

I agree with that, calling anything ______ 2 is just so...overplayed. I dunno. They probably will go with just Thor 2, as they've already set that precedent with IM2. It won't change my overall enjoyment of the final movie in the slightest though.

[R_Hythlodeus]

I would like for it to be Thor 2 with a subtitle after it, I think the "2" would let people know that it's a direct sequel to the first and a subtitle after it would keep it from being bland.
I agree. This is the way to go

[BigThor]

I agree. This is the way to go

Yeah, I know alot of people that didn't know The Dark Knight was a sequel to Batman Begins because of the different names.

I might sound crazy, but it's true

[Shadowlord X]

I agree that THOR 2 alone is too bland. Given that it going to spend most of it's time on Asgard and the other nine realms, I'd go with THOR: PRINCE OF ASGARD.

[cherokeesam]

Thor 2: God of Thunder
Thor 2: Hammer of the Gods
Thor 2: Goldilocks

[Godzilla2000]

I don't if it's been already mentioned here, but I'd love to see the golden apples in Thor 2.

With these products, edible Golden Apples are a possibility! :D
http://www.the-deli-garage.com/shopware.php

[BigThor]

Thor 2: God of Thunder

This :up:

I agree that THOR 2 alone is too bland. Given that it going to spend most of it's time on Asgard and the other nine realms, I'd go with THOR: PRINCE OF ASGARD.

Or it could be THOR 2: PRINCE OF ASGARD

[Gamma Burst]

With these products, edible Golden Apples are a possibility! :D
http://www.the-deli-garage.com/shopware.php

LOL. Seriously, it would be cool to see more about them and the Asgardian's immortality.

[Mysteryman]

I agree that a combination of subtitles and numbers are important .
For Example ,
Iron Man 3: this time we have a different writer than 2, WE SWEAR !!:woot:

[one4smoke]

I agree that THOR 2 alone is too bland. Given that it going to spend most of it's time on Asgard and the other nine realms, I'd go with THOR: PRINCE OF ASGARD.

Good one!

How about: Thor and the Nine Worlds.

[TheCorpulent1]

If he's exploring the Nine Realms, I think the subtitle should be obvious: Thor 2: Journey into Mystery. :thor:

[BigThor]

If he's exploring the Nine Realms, I think the subtitle should be obvious: Thor 2: Journey into Mystery. :thor:

This is the best title of the film so far, with God of Thunder and Prince of Asgard.

[Gamma Burst]

If he's exploring the Nine Realms, I think the subtitle should be obvious: Thor 2: Journey into Mystery. :thor:

We have a winner here.:cool:

[Shadowlord X]

We have a winner here.:cool:

Could be.

Here's another scenario:

THOR 2: Prince of Asgard
THOR 3: God of Thunder
THOR 4: Journey into Mystery

[Godzilla2000]

I think they should go the classy root, like the 70's/80's Chris Reeve Superman movies and use Roman numerals to delineate it as a sequel, like Thor II. Of course another idea would be to use a Norwegian numeral that morphs into the number 2 in a title sequence. But yes, the Roman Numeral might make it pretty unique.

[cherokeesam]

If he's exploring the Nine Realms, I think the subtitle should be obvious: Thor 2: Journey into Mystery. :thor:


Well-played, sir

[BigThor]

I think they should go the classy root, like the 70's/80's Chris Reeve Superman movies and use Roman numerals to delineate it as a sequel, like Thor II. Of course another idea would be to use a Norwegian numeral that morphs into the number 2 in a title sequence. But yes, the Roman Numeral might make it pretty unique

Yeah, I've always thought the Roman Numerals "II/III" looked alot better behind a sequel's title than a regular 2 & 3.

I;d be happy with either one of these as the title for Thor 2

Thor II: Journey Into Mystery

Thor II: God of Thunder

Thor II: Son of Asgard (

^ I like "Son" better than "Prince" for some reason

[Gamma Burst]

Kenneth Branagh: 'Thor' Director 'Very Excited' About Patty Jenkins Taking Over for 'Thor 2'

When Marvel confirmed that 'Thor' director Kenneth Branagh would not be back for 'Thor 2,' fans were a bit puzzled. After all, although Branagh -- best known for his work directing and acting in Shakespeare adaptations -- was initially considered a surprise pick to helm the superhero movie, he ended up turning 'Thor' into a box-office smash worldwide. Over the weekend, Moviefone spoke with Branagh about why he wasn't doing 'Thor 2' and whether it was, as Deadline reported, an amicable decision between both parties.

"[It was] simply timing," Branagh said. "I loved doing the movie, I'd love to do another movie for Marvel, and it was just timing. The requirement for me was just to get back in the saddle so swiftly that it wasn't really feasible, but it was a decision [Marvel] understood."

Not only are there no hard feelings about the decision, but Branagh is even supportive of 'Thor 2' director Patty Jenkins.

"I, along with a lot of other people, are very excited about the appointment of Patty Jenkins," he said. "I think that's a great choice to direct the movie. I know that Kevin Feige and all the people I worked very closely with, who were absolutely parts of the creation of that movie, are keen to produce a great second picture. So it was the right decision for me and for them and I am really looking forward to see how the second one develops."

Jenkins is perhaps even more of a surprise pick than Branagh was. She is best known for directing the 2003 drama 'Monster,' starring Charlize Theron as the serial killer Aileen Wuornos (a role that won Theron her Oscar), a film that doesn't exactly translate over to the superhero genre. Whether Jenkins can meet Branagh's expectations won't be known to moviegoers until the summer of 2013, when 'Thor 2' is scheduled to hit theaters.

Make sure to check back with Moviefone later this week for the full interview with Branagh, where he discusses 'Harry Potter' (he played Gilderoy Lockhart in 'Chamber of Secrets') and gives his thoughts on portraying acting legend Sir Laurence Olivier in the upcoming 'My Week With Marilyn.'
http://blog.moviefone.com/2011/11/14/kenneth-branagh-thor-director-patty-jenkins/?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000011

Well, I'm sure there'll still be conspiracy theories about marvel being ''cheap'' and that it's their fault Branagh is not coming back. :D

[kedrell]

Maybe once he rests up he could be back to direct Thor 3?

[Gamma Burst]

Maybe once he rests up he could be back to direct Thor 3?

That would be very welcome.

[BigThor]

That would be very welcome.

Why yes it would, I'm all for Branagh finishing out the Thor trilogy.

[Mysteryman]

If Patty Jenkins does a great job as I expect her to,
I have no problem with her coming back for 3.

[Superhero 101]

I really wished Branagh would come back

[Mysteryman]

Maybe once he rests up he could be back to direct Thor 3?
I dont think Branagh was saying that he was too tired.
Marvel wanted to get started right away.
Branagh , for whatever reason, didnt or couldnt.

[BigThor]

I really wished Branagh would come back

Same here, but I'm sure Marvel knows what they're doing by choosing Patty Jenkins to take his place.

[kedrell]

If Patty Jenkins does a great job as I expect her to,
I have no problem with her coming back for 3.

In such a case, neither would I.

[Mysteryman]

Same here, but I'm sure Marvel knows what they're doing by choosing Patty Jenkins to take his place.
Agreed.

[misjuevos]

If he's exploring the Nine Realms, I think the subtitle should be obvious: Thor 2: Journey into Mystery. :thor:
i like it http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[S.A.A.D.]

I really hope that Patty doesn't doesn't drop the ball big time. She better be selfless enough.

[Vartha]

Thank You too? :woot:



In the myths Thor took the hard working non-warriors into his hall which if I recall was a part of Valhalla (Odin's hall)
I remember that too. I'm trying to recall where I read that tho.

[BigThor]

I really hope that Patty doesn't doesn't drop the ball big time. She better be selfless enough.

Yeah, the only thing I'm worried about is the action scenes not improving from the first film but I'm fairly confident in her abilities in just about every other area.

[Gamma Burst]

She'll do just fine, as did Branagh.

[BigThor]

Yeah, I just hope that we get a couple Thor vs Executioner fights of the same caliber as Spidey and Doc Ock's in Spider-Man 2.

I know it's a bit of a stretch, but it's possible especially since with THOR 2's increased budget. :woot:

:thor::thor::thor:

[Godzilla2000]

Well, whatever they have in store for Thor 2 I certainly hope they progressively raise the bar of escalation with it culminating in the looming threat of Ragnarok. Maybe Odin trying to put off his Odinsleep for so long in Thor was because he knew that Raganrok would be coming soon. That's just my speculation.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah i'm the same, I still wish Branagh was returning as I feel he would improve on the action scene's in the first movie as well as everything else.

With Jenkins it feels like a fresh start and there is an uncertainty that comes with that, like with what I felt with Branagh on the first movie. Branagh blew my socks off in all honesty, I didnt think he could do so well with a Thor movie, so hopefully Jenkins can go beyond that, by developing the characters further and giving us action scene's that top the ones from the first movie in every way.

[Gamma Burst]

That's exactly how I feel about it.:cool:

Btw, Jinouga, I like your idea about linking the Odinsleep to an upcoming Ragnarok.

[Godzilla2000]

That's exactly how I feel about it.:cool:

Btw, Jinouga, I like your idea about linking the Odinsleep to an upcoming Ragnarok.

Why thanks! Now Marvel can hire me to collaborate on the script for the sequel. :p

I believe it was Frigga that said something about this Odinsleep coming at such an unusual time. I have a feeling that the things Loki has been doing while in his self imposed exile and in the Avengers is like that one domino that starts the chain of events that puts the universal order out of whack.

[Gamma Burst]

I really can see that being explored in the sequel.

[Godzilla2000]

In my humble little opinion considering everything that has occurred in the Marvel movie universe and what will occur I think in terms of the progression of events in the Thor movies Ragnarok will be the eventual outcome. It would be nice for Loki to have an evil little moment where in a pique of madness he tells Odin that they all deserve this.

[Vartha]

I can see ragnarok in the 3rd film and at the end you see agard being reborn

[BigThor]

Yeah i'm the same, I still wish Branagh was returning as I feel he would improve on the action scene's in the first movie as well as everything else.

With Jenkins it feels like a fresh start and there is an uncertainty that comes with that, like with what I felt with Branagh on the first movie. Branagh blew my socks off in all honesty, I didnt think he could do so well with a Thor movie, so hopefully Jenkins can go beyond that, by developing the characters further and giving us action scene's that top the ones from the first movie in every way.

Yeah, I think he was going to be more adept with action scenes in THOR 2 since he already crossed the hurdles of THOR being his first big blockbuster.

That doesn't mean Jenkins still can't top the action scenes in the first in every way, there would just be a higher level of certainty if Branagh returned.

[Vartha]

Yeah, I just hope that we get a couple Thor vs Executioner fights of the same caliber as Spidey and Doc Ock's in Spider-Man 2.

I know it's a bit of a stretch, but it's possible especially since with THOR 2's increased budget. :woot:

:thor::thor::thor:
more worlds ya know? :woot:

[Godzilla2000]

I can see ragnarok in the 3rd film and at the end you see agard being reborn

Yes! This is what I've been thinking too! The second movie would be more a calm before the storm with it briefly looking like Loki will do what's right only for that to be a temporary hope with the third movie having everything all hit the fan.

Yeah, I think he was going to be more adept with action scenes in THOR 2 since he already crossed the hurdles of THOR being his first big blockbuster.

That doesn't mean Jenkins still can't top the action scenes in the first in every way, there would just be a higher level of certainty if Branagh returned.

Isn't Branaugh in an Executive Producer position on the sequel? It's not quite in the director's chair but it does entail more hands on control of the creative decisions.

[BigThor]

more worlds ya know? :woot:

What do you mean by that Vartha?

Isn't Branaugh in an Executive Producer position on the sequel? It's not quite in the director's chair but it does entail more hands on control of the creative decisions.

Not all producers are as hands on as they should be, but let's just hope that Branagh's love for Thor allows him to aid Jenkins however he can.

[Gamma Burst]

What do you mean by that Vartha?



Not all producers are as hands on as they should be, but let's just hope that Branagh's love for Thor allows him to aid Jenkins however he can.

I guess Vartha wanted to imply the bigger budget will be used to create the other worlds.:cool:

[cherokeesam]

I can see ragnarok in the 3rd film and at the end you see agard being reborn

Or...maybe just the opposite. Kinda sorta.

I like the idea of Thor becoming a sort of Star Wars trilogy, with Ragnarok as the overarching theme (seeds planted in 1, take root in 2, and sprout in 3)....but I'd kinda like to see Thor 3 end with Thor on Midgard, and he somehow gets permanently cut off from Asgard. (Hell, maybe even seeing that happen by the end of 2.)

That would make Thor more of an Earthly superhero instead of an Asgardian one; and I think that was Lee and Kirby's intent from the very start. Asgard is cool and all, but do general audiences care about a superhero defending a distant dimension/planet of immortals all the time, or would they rather see him putting humanity first and being a champion of Midgard?

Besides, if you stay in Asgard all the time, you weaken his ties with the Avengers for future films; and you're unlikely to see Thor's famous earthly foes, like Absorbing Man and the Wrecking Crew.

[cherokeesam]

I can see ragnarok in the 3rd film and at the end you see agard being reborn

Or...maybe just the opposite. Kinda sorta.

I like the idea of Thor becoming a sort of Star Wars trilogy, with Ragnarok as the overarching theme (seeds planted in 1, take root in 2, and sprout in 3)....but I'd kinda like to see Thor 3 end with Thor on Midgard, and he somehow gets permanently cut off from Asgard. (Hell, maybe even seeing that happen by the end of 2.)

That would make Thor more of an Earthly superhero instead of an Asgardian one; and I think that was Lee and Kirby's intent from the very start. Asgard is cool and all, but do general audiences care about a superhero defending a distant dimension/planet of immortals all the time, or would they rather see him putting humanity first and being a champion of Midgard?

Besides, if you stay in Asgard all the time, you weaken his ties with the Avengers for future films; and you're unlikely to see Thor's famous earthly foes, like Absorbing Man and the Wrecking Crew.

[BigThor]

I guess Vartha wanted to imply the bigger budget will be used to create the other worlds.:cool:

Oh ok, and hopefully it can be used to create action scenes on a larger scale.

[Godzilla2000]

Besides, if you stay in Asgard all the time, you weaken his ties with the Avengers for future films; and you're unlikely to see Thor's famous earthly foes, like Absorbing Man and the Wrecking Crew.

I thought Absorbing Man was more connected with the Hulk. I mean they did kind of use his powers for Absorbing Dad in Ang Lee's Hulk movie.

[cherokeesam]

I thought Absorbing Man was more connected with the Hulk. I mean they did kind of use his powers for Absorbing Dad in Ang Lee's Hulk movie.


No, no. Creed got his powers from Loki, and he started out as a perennial baddie for Thor. Later on, he became the go-to guy for unstoppable brick villains, so Hulk was a natural; and he's pretty much battled everyone in the Marvel Universe. But he was a Thor villain from the very start.

[Vartha]

What do you mean by that Vartha?



Not all producers are as hands on as they should be, but let's just hope that Branagh's love for Thor allows him to aid Jenkins however he can.
well they've said they're going to be exploring other worlds....you know the ticket prices on air travel these days? lol

[Vartha]

Oh ok, and hopefully it can be used to create action scenes on a larger scale.
yes, since the other worlds will be in Thor 2, the CGI budget will need to be amped up a bit.

[Vartha]

Or...maybe just the opposite. Kinda sorta.

I like the idea of Thor becoming a sort of Star Wars trilogy, with Ragnarok as the overarching theme (seeds planted in 1, take root in 2, and sprout in 3)....but I'd kinda like to see Thor 3 end with Thor on Midgard, and he somehow gets permanently cut off from Asgard. (Hell, maybe even seeing that happen by the end of 2.)

That would make Thor more of an Earthly superhero instead of an Asgardian one; and I think that was Lee and Kirby's intent from the very start. Asgard is cool and all, but do general audiences care about a superhero defending a distant dimension/planet of immortals all the time, or would they rather see him putting humanity first and being a champion of Midgard?

Besides, if you stay in Asgard all the time, you weaken his ties with the Avengers for future films; and you're unlikely to see Thor's famous earthly foes, like Absorbing Man and the Wrecking Crew.
Well the whole idea of a Ragnarok is to show just how old the Asgardians truely are. The cycle is a rebirth for thier race, and even one of the relics in the vault elude to another set of Aliens/Gods that feed on the energies of Ragnarok call "Those who sit above in shadow" so somewhere down the line we will more than likely HEAR about Ragnarok.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah, I think he was going to be more adept with action scenes in THOR 2 since he already crossed the hurdles of THOR being his first big blockbuster.

That doesn't mean Jenkins still can't top the action scenes in the first in every way, there would just be a higher level of certainty if Branagh returned.

True, theres nothing to say Jenkins action scene's will be worse, but there is also nothing to say they will be better either, so its going to be a worry until we see the film, which is natural.

As long as its a good film and the characters are done correctly though, thats the main thing the I dont think we have to worry about that aspect.

[04nbod]

Well the whole idea of a Ragnarok is to show just how old the Asgardians truely are. The cycle is a rebirth for thier race, and even one of the relics in the vault elude to another set of Aliens/Gods that feed on the energies of Ragnarok call "Those who sit above in shadow" so somewhere down the line we will more than likely HEAR about Ragnarok.

If they did a Ragnorak story I'd prefer if they did go with the whole Jurgens idea and have it be the final Ragnorak where destiny is destroyed.

I agree with CherokeeSam that the story should end on Earth with Thor having taken a decision decisively that he's choosing who he wants to be rather than being what anyone else thinks he should be. Those are some of the best moments in the comics, but for some reason they never stick.

[Godzilla2000]

You know...I was thinking of this concerning Loki's progression, but the way his character development sounds like to me in the Avengers is that he's become like a drug addict, except his addiction is power, not a chemical substance. I can see this having ripples of damaging psychological effect for Thor 2 because for anyone that has been close to Loki, especially Thor, Odin and Frigga it will be hell for them like it is for loved ones trying to deal with an addict deep within his addictive phase where he's in denial.

[BigThor]

True, theres nothing to say Jenkins action scene's will be worse, but there is also nothing to say they will be better either, so its going to be a worry until we see the film, which is natural.

As long as its a good film and the characters are done correctly though, thats the main thing the I dont think we have to worry about that aspect.

Yeah, that's why the only things I'm worried about is the action scenes because I think we're pretty much in the clear regarding character development and the actors giving great perfromances.

yes, since the other worlds will be in Thor 2, the CGI budget will need to be amped up a bit.

Yeah, I know the first film didn't reach 200 million domestically but I would be very excited to see what they could do with a 200 million dollar budget (atleast I hope it's budget is 180-185 million).

No, no. Creed got his powers from Loki, and he started out as a perennial baddie for Thor. Later on, he became the go-to guy for unstoppable brick villains, so Hulk was a natural; and he's pretty much battled everyone in the Marvel Universe. But he was a Thor villain from the very start.

Exactly :up:

[BigThor]

Double post

[Gamma Burst]

Btw, it was a nice touch to see Thor - God of Thunder at Thor's bio in the Avenger's official page. :)

[BigThor]

Btw, it was a nice touch to see Thor - God of Thunder at Thor's bio in the Avenger's official page. :)

Yeah I noticed that as well, for other character's it simply had their government names and in Loki's case it had nothing.

[Godzilla2000]

Yeah I noticed that as well, for other character's it simply had their government names and in Loki's case it had nothing.

Aw! Poor Loki! He just gets no respect from anyone. :(

[BigThor]

That's why he's gonna "take" his respect in The Avengers.

[Godzilla2000]

That's why he's gonna "take" his respect in The Avengers.

What should his title on his profile be then?

[herolee10]

What should his title on his profile be then?

God of Mischief

[Godzilla2000]

God of Mischief

Someone on Twitter would disagree with you and say he should be called God of Badassery. :cwink:

[Vartha]

You know...I was thinking of this concerning Loki's progression, but the way his character development sounds like to me in the Avengers is that he's become like a drug addict, except his addiction is power, not a chemical substance. I can see this having ripples of damaging psychological effect for Thor 2 because for anyone that has been close to Loki, especially Thor, Odin and Frigga it will be hell for them like it is for loved ones trying to deal with an addict deep within his addictive phase where he's in denial.
yeah but it's more or less been induced by not getting what Thor has.
It was more an addiction to things he can't get. It's changed a bit over the years tho. First it was wanting Mjolnir, then later to become ruler of Asgard.

[Godzilla2000]

yeah but it's more or less been induced by not getting what Thor has.
It was more an addiction to things he can't get. It's changed a bit over the years tho. First it was wanting Mjolnir, then later to become ruler of Asgard.

Well, I'm just saying that in terms of inspiration. I've actually lived with loved ones that had chemical abuse issues and the personality changes were quite drastic. I was thinking that from Joss Whedon and Tom Hiddleston's words the Loki in The Avengers will be vastly different than the one in Thor, perhaps in terms of the character's experiences it's because his years in exile have changed him into a more ruthless individual who will take what he wants or die trying because he's sick and tired of living up to Odin's preordained aspirations. Also he lived a pretty sheltered life in Asgard where he was not exposed to the cruelties and the beauty of the universe. But in terms of how Odin or Thor might see Loki, it would be like seeing that change in a loved one who's been taken over by addiction. Remember the Loki they knew before his fall wasn't quite as dangerous or malevolent, just a trouble maker. That's what I'm trying to say here.

[kedrell]

Someone on Twitter would disagree with you and say he should be called God of Badassery. :cwink:


Personally I always thought God of Evil was his best title.

[Godzilla2000]

Personally I always thought God of Evil was his best title.

Considering the path Loki seems to be taking in the movie continuity that would be a very apt title for him. As I've stated previously without Ghost Rider and the character of Mephisto being available to the Marvel movie universe someone has to take his place as ruler of all things evil, why not Loki?

[04nbod]

Personally I always thought God of Evil was his best title.

That doesn't work for me. Mischeif is supposed to be neutral. Loki should be more of an anarchist

[Gamma Burst]

That doesn't work for me. Mischeif is supposed to be neutral. Loki should be more of an anarchist

I couldn't agree more.:up:

[WildcatNC]

That doesn't work for me. Mischeif is supposed to be neutral. Loki should be more of an anarchist

I agree. He's NOT evil, he's chaos and entropy, mischief and mayhem.

He's the guy the Joker prays to :o

[Vartha]

Well, I'm just saying that in terms of inspiration. I've actually lived with loved ones that had chemical abuse issues and the personality changes were quite drastic. I was thinking that from Joss Whedon and Tom Hiddleston's words the Loki in The Avengers will be vastly different than the one in Thor, perhaps in terms of the character's experiences it's because his years in exile have changed him into a more ruthless individual who will take what he wants or die trying because he's sick and tired of living up to Odin's preordained aspirations. Also he lived a pretty sheltered life in Asgard where he was not exposed to the cruelties and the beauty of the universe. But in terms of how Odin or Thor might see Loki, it would be like seeing that change in a loved one who's been taken over by addiction. Remember the Loki they knew before his fall wasn't quite as dangerous or malevolent, just a trouble maker. That's what I'm trying to say here.
Well gambling is an addiction too. lol It's just some thing to make Loki feel as worthy to Odin as Thor. He says it himself.
Tho now it's probably more a revenge thing than being power hungry.

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree. He's NOT evil, he's chaos and entropy, mischief and mayhem.

He's the guy the Joker prays to :o
But he's also petty and small and a child lashing out at an uncaring father for attention and approval. So many wonderful contradictions in Loki. That's what makes him such a compelling villain. :up:

[Godzilla2000]

Well gambling is an addiction too. lol It's just some thing to make Loki feel as worthy to Odin as Thor. He says it himself.
Tho now it's probably more a revenge thing than being power hungry.

Well, in terms of physical and mental health substance addictions are pretty damaging. Like I said I lived with substance abusers and I'm still paying for the damaging emotional toll of it's taken on me.

[Vartha]

Well, in terms of physical and mental health substance addictions are pretty damaging. Like I said I lived with substance abusers and I'm still paying for the damaging emotional toll of it's taken on me.
Yeah I know the types, I drink but don't abuse it, and managed an Amoco foodshop selling lottery believe me I know the types. Even some yuppies I know were like Loki. It's sad to see people on the wrong end of theose abuses even when they are physically abused.

[Godzilla2000]

Yeah I know the types, I drink but don't abuse it, and managed an Amoco foodshop selling lottery believe me I know the types. Even some yuppies I know were like Loki. It's sad to see people on the wrong end of theose abuses even when they are physically abused.

Yeah, I guess the point I'm making is that to make everything identifiable, even on Asgard, like Kenneth Branaugh intended with the Thor movie drawing from real life can inspire the actors in the future despite who is helming the project. Plus a script with meaty dialogue can help too.

[Vartha]

Heh anything from Thor and Loki better be just a bit more meatier than the rest of the Avengers. :D

[Godzilla2000]

Heh anything from Thor and Loki better be just a bit more meatier than the rest of the Avengers. :D

Oh yes I have to agree! All the other Avengers don't have familial ties to Loki like Thor does. Because Thor is the more responsible, older brother I'm sure he'll not want to harm his brother at all. I know personally despite what my siblings have done in the past I'd never want to see any harm come to them from their own follies. I'm sure that Thor would feel the same way, nor would he want to see him get harmed. I think that's why at the end of Thor he refused to fight Loki, because he loved him too much to see him suffer. I'm sure in Thor 2 Thor will do all he can to stop Loki from angering Odin enough that Odin will punish him physically, but I'd have a feeling he'd just delay the inevitable as Loki's temperament at the moment is quite volatile. I can see Loki just snapping at the smallest of infractions and lashing out. I fear Loki in his solo travels might have seen too much and it has affected his rationality and sanity, or exacerbated a persistent madness that had been crawling underneath his skin for millenia. Like I said, as a prince of Asgard Loki's lived a pretty sheltered life and if things became violent he always had Thor to bail him out. Not so much on his own in the wide spanning Universe. Just the process of survival for a man not as physically gifted with the ability to fight must have hardened Loki, hence his drastic change by the time the Avengers takes place. I think Loki's taken quite a few beatings from other races out there and each humiliation made him angrier and stronger.

[Gamma Burst]

Awesome avatar, Jinouga.:up:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I am interested to see whether or not Odin/Frigga will tell Thor that Loki isnt his real brother. Loki says this to Thor in their final battle in the first movie but it doesnt seem to register with Thor as he shows no reaction to it. He says "Loki this is madness!" but I felt he was saying that because of what Loki had done, not when he told him he wasnt his real brother.

I would really like to see Thors reaction to being told they arent actually related and whether this would change his protective nature towards him. I cant see them addressing it in Avengers so I would like to see it in Thor 2.

[Gamma Burst]

Yeah, I agree that should be explored in the upcoming movies.

[Godzilla2000]

I am interested to see whether or not Odin/Frigga will tell Thor that Loki isnt his real brother. Loki says this to Thor in their final battle in the first movie but it doesnt seem to register with Thor as he shows no reaction to it.

We're talking here about the guy in the comics who didn't know that Loki's soul hijacked Sif's body. :p

[Gamma Burst]

Kenneth Branagh Shares More Of His Thoughts On Patty Jenkins Directing Thor 2

Kenneth Branagh sat down with Vulture to talk about his upcoming film My Week With Marilyn. In the interview Branagh was once again asked about Patty Jenkins taking his place as director for the upcoming sequel to his smash Summer hit, Thor, saying that he hasn't spoken to her but they have exchanged letter on good sentiments. He also, unlike Mickey Rourke, talked about what a joyful collaboration it was to work with the people at Marvel.

Said Branagh:

"We haven't spoken, we've exchanged letters, really just saying "well done" and "how thrilling." I think it’s a great choice and I'm really excited about that, and I think Marvel have always been so imaginative about the way they match these projects with directors who may have very particular things to bring to them but may not be superficially a natural kind of fit. But my gut tells me this is a tremendous choice, so I'm very excited. I'm also thrilled that the second movie is being made, and I just think her in combination with those actors is such a terrific thing. And I think she'll get on in the way that I did with the Marvel guys, which was a very happy, creative collaboration."

[TheCorpulent1]

Did Mickey Rourke not get along with people on the set of Iron Man 2 or something? :huh:

[RagingOvaries]

Did Mickey Rourke not get along with people on the set of Iron Man 2 or something? :huh:

He sure made it sound that way in a couple of interviews.

[kedrell]

Yeah, a year and a half after it came out. It the run up to release he was nothing but positive.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hmm, didn't know about that. Ah well, it's not like he'll ever need to come back. :awesome:

[herolee10]

I wonder if the events in Thor 2 will provide a major catalyst the leads up to creating the events of Avengers 2 like how the events of "Thor" did for "The Avengers".

[Gamma Burst]

It could be. I think Thor 2 might tie into the mystic corner of the MCU, connecting to dr. Strange, for example.

[BigThor]

It could be. I think Thor 2 might tie into the mystic corner of the MCU, connecting to dr. Strange, for example.

Thor's franchise is also paving the way for the cosmic side of the MCU, so Thor's success really opened the doors for two important sides of the MCU (magical & cosmic).

I am interested to see whether or not Odin/Frigga will tell Thor that Loki isnt his real brother. I would really like to see Thors reaction to being told they arent actually related and whether this would change his protective nature towards him. I cant see them addressing it in Avengers so I would like to see it in Thor 2.

Yeah this really should be explored in Thor 2, although I don't think it will change the way he views Loki because after growing up with someone blood can't make you any closer.

[Gamma Burst]

Thor's franchise is also paving the way for the cosmic side of the MCU, so Thor's success really opened the doors for two important sides of the MCU (magical & cosmic).



Exactly. And that's the magic about this character: He blends both sides so well.

[BigThor]

Exactly. And that's the magic about this character: He blends both sides so well.

Yeah I hope there's a scene in The Avengers where Thor flies up in space and in Thor 2 or 3 as well.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

We're talking here about the guy in the comics who didn't know that Loki's soul hijacked Sif's body. :p

Ha ha, well I did mention someone would have to TELL him the facts :woot:.

Thor's franchise is also paving the way for the cosmic side of the MCU, so Thor's success really opened the doors for two important sides of the MCU (magical & cosmic).



Yeah this really should be explored in Thor 2, although I don't think it will change the way he views Loki because after growing up with someone blood can't make you any closer.

No, I think he will still view Loki as his brother, but I would like to see Thors initial reaction to it definately and what his reaction to Odin would be also.

Yeah I hope there's a scene in The Avengers where Thor flies up in space and in Thor 2 or 3 as well.

Didnt know Thor could survive in space, could make for some very interesing elements in Thor 2.

[Gamma Burst]

Ha ha, well I did mention someone would have to TELL him the facts :woot:.



No, I think he will still view Loki as his brother, but I would like to see Thors initial reaction to it definately and what his reaction to Odin would be also.



Didnt know Thor could survive in space, could make for some very interesing elements in Thor 2.

Yeah., Asgardian gods can survive (and even talk) in space with no problem at all. One of the advantages of being a mystical being.:)

[Godzilla2000]

Ha ha, well I did mention someone would have to TELL him the facts :woot:.

I do have to say though movie Thor is a tad bit more intuitive than his comic counterpart.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah., Asgardian gods can survive (and even talk) in space with no problem at all. One of the advantages of being a mystical being.:)

Did not know that, hopefully we get some awesome scene's in space for the next movie, I think visually it will be stunning.

I do have to say though movie Thor is a tad bit more intuitive than his comic counterpart.

Well he couldnt be less intuituive by the sounds of it!

[Godzilla2000]

Well he couldnt be less intuituive by the sounds of it!

I think I'm going to go with the tried and true "selective" hearing thing that you guys seem to utilize very well. So Loki's statement that he was not Thor's brother just went in one ear and out the other. No wonder Loki is always hostile towards Thor. It's that whole selective hearing thing. Sterling example of this was when Loki was trying to get Thor not to go to Jotunheim. We all see how well that went.

[Gamma Burst]

I think I'm going to go with the tried and true "selective" hearing thing that you guys seem to utilize very well. So Loki's statement that he was not Thor's brother just went in one ear and out the other. No wonder Loki is always hostile towards Thor. It's that whole selective hearing thing. Sterling example of this was when Loki was trying to get Thor not to go to Jotunheim. We all see how well that went.

Well, I don't know if this second example works, since Loki actually influenced him to go to Jotunheim.

[Godzilla2000]

Well, I don't know if this second example works, since Loki actually influenced him to go to Jotunheim.

As I seem to recall, Loki only let the Frost giants into Asgard to ruin Thor's coronation ceremony. I don't think it was his intention for Thor to march right into Jotunheim and rile them up. Why else would Loki have alerted the guard to what Thor was planning on doing and hope they would not have made it into Jotunheim in the first place?

[Gamma Burst]

As I seem to recall, Loki only let the Frost giants into Asgard to ruin Thor's coronation ceremony. I don't think it was his intention for Thor to march right into Jotunheim and rile them up. Why else would Loki have alerted the guard to what Thor was planning on doing and hope they would not have made it into Jotunheim in the first place?

He alerted the guard so that Odin would be told about Thor's actions, which were against his orders.
Also, Thor's reckless actions and attitude were not what one should expect from a the future King of Asgard (according to Loki's own words), and the battle against the Jotuns, almost leading to a war, was more than enough to 'prove' Loki's point. That's why, imo, He influenced Thor.

[BigThor]

Didnt know Thor could survive in space, could make for some very interesing elements in Thor 2.

Wow, you really didn't know that?

Thor flew into outer space in one episode of A:EMH and he has a entire comic book run where he basically flies through space visiting other galaxies the whole time.

Yeah, he's pretty much a cosmic character in addition to being an earth superhero.

[Godzilla2000]

Yeah, he's pretty much a cosmic character in addition to being an earth superhero.

I guess considering the nature of Asgard and how it's presented in Thor that sounds about right.

[Vartha]

Hmm, didn't know about that. Ah well, it's not like he'll ever need to come back. :awesome:
Well Mikey's not all there in the first place Corpy. I saw an interview with him on one of the talk shows on Immortals, and he just sounds like his past has taken a HUGE toll on him. I'm sure it's more like he's hard to fully converse with.

[Vartha]

colored a copy of a get well Card I drew on thanksgiving day and night at work.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5706/hugethorscanclrmarkernc.jpg

[Godzilla2000]

That's pretty awesome! Good job you did there! :D

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Wow, you really didn't know that?

Thor flew into outer space in one episode of A:EMH and he has a entire comic book run where he basically flies through space visiting other galaxies the whole time.

Yeah, he's pretty much a cosmic character in addition to being an earth superhero.

Other than the movie I havent had much exposure to him, I have read Secret Wars with him in and I remember him being briefly in the first TPB of Rulk, but other than that it was the movie that made me appreciate the character. I have read up a bit on him since but still didnt know this.

Quick question though, I saw a scan from a recent comic were Thor and Silver Surfer fight in Asgard, I would be interested in reading this what TPB is it in?

[Gamma Burst]

Other than the movie I havent had much exposure to him, I have read Secret Wars with him in and I remember him being briefly in the first TPB of Rulk, but other than that it was the movie that made me appreciate the character. I have read up a bit on him since but still didnt know this.

Quick question though, I saw a scan from a recent comic were Thor and Silver Surfer fight in Asgard, I would be interested in reading this what TPB is it in?

It's Mighty Thor by Matt Fraction (collecting Mighty Thor #1 to #6).

:cool:

Glad to have a new Thor fan, btw. Thanks to the movie.

[BigThor]

It's Mighty Thor by Matt Fraction (collecting Mighty Thor #1 to #6).

:cool:

Glad to have a new Thor fan, btw. Thanks to the movie.

Yeah, they're aren't enough of us imo.

[Gamma Burst]

Yeah, they're aren't enough of us imo.

It's never enough. But it's getting better.:)

[BigThor]

It's never enough. But it's getting better.:)

Yeah it is, hopefully this means better treatment of Thor in future Marvel animated shows and films.

[ladyloki]

Oh yes I have to agree! All the other Avengers don't have familial ties to Loki like Thor does. Because Thor is the more responsible, older brother I'm sure he'll not want to harm his brother at all. I know personally despite what my siblings have done in the past I'd never want to see any harm come to them from their own follies. I'm sure that Thor would feel the same way, nor would he want to see him get harmed. I think that's why at the end of Thor he refused to fight Loki, because he loved him too much to see him suffer. I'm sure in Thor 2 Thor will do all he can to stop Loki from angering Odin enough that Odin will punish him physically, but I'd have a feeling he'd just delay the inevitable as Loki's temperament at the moment is quite volatile. I can see Loki just snapping at the smallest of infractions and lashing out. I fear Loki in his solo travels might have seen too much and it has affected his rationality and sanity, or exacerbated a persistent madness that had been crawling underneath his skin for millenia. Like I said, as a prince of Asgard Loki's lived a pretty sheltered life and if things became violent he always had Thor to bail him out. Not so much on his own in the wide spanning Universe. Just the process of survival for a man not as physically gifted with the ability to fight must have hardened Loki, hence his drastic change by the time the Avengers takes place. I think Loki's taken quite a few beatings from other races out there and each humiliation made him angrier and stronger.

What an awesome post .... Too add to it , Tom hiddlestion even said that Loki has been training himself during his time away from asgard, therefore he is going to be far more powerful and dangrous than Thor realizes, and like Jinouga said the more he is beaten the angerier he gets, not a good combination.


I also agree with who eversaid that Loki true hertiage needs to be explored more, maybe touched on in avengers but have it really come out in Thor 2. Do you all think it should be kept among the family and prehaps sif and the warriors three or have it somehow become known to everyone .. therefore starting the use of Loki's true name laufeyson .. what do you think. I think it should somehow come out.. be private at first but then the **** hits the fan when asgard finds out that he is a frost giant. I think that will help fuel loki's hatered of asgard, when he hears and see their reaction.

Oh and what are your thoughts on the role sif and the warriors three should play... in paticular would you want her to be understanding towards the situtation with Thor and the love for his brother, jane. midgard, and especially loki or see more of the dislike she had towards Loki when he was on the throne. especially if she finds out lokis true past.... I am not a huge fan of sif, based on the couple comics I did read Thor and Loki blood brothers in paticular... but it will be intersting to see how jamie alaxender will get to continue to protray her...

The warriors three will be just as interesting...at least I hope so bring out more of their personality as things happen in the movie , their thoughts and views on what ever is happening.

I think Jane should go to asgard.. that would be a hell of a conclusion if they are planing on ending her and thors relationship.. true to the comics.

[TheCorpulent1]

Sif is a fantastic character. Blood Brothers casts her in something of a bad light because it's primarily from Loki's perspective, and Loki sees Sif as the popular, hot girl who would forever be unattainable to him--the cheerleader to Thor's quarterback, while Loki was the geek fantasizing about her in the corner and hating himself for it.

Cast Loki's peculiar lenses aside, however, and Sif is a woman who's succeeded in the highly patriarchal roles of a highly patriarchal society to attain a position of influence and respect on her own merits, not just as a woman to be honored and protected because she can pop out kids and comfort men. She's an incredibly strong woman who becomes even stronger when you recall that she's basically been that way since the '60s, when future strong superheroines like the Wasp and the Invisible Woman were still shallow, dainty foils for their respective men. She loves Thor but is not beholden to him, i.e. she doesn't compromise who she is to suit him. There's a great graphic novel called Thor: I, Whom the Gods Would Destroy that puts Thor/Blake and Sif's relationship in perspective nicely. Son of Asgard is a good look at the kind of fiery, independent young woman she started out as in her youth alongside Thor and Balder, too.

[herolee10]

Given its release date, when would it be logical for filming to commence for Thor 2?

[Aeltri]

Sif is a fantastic character. Blood Brothers casts her in something of a bad light because it's primarily from Loki's perspective, and Loki sees Sif as the popular, hot girl who would forever be unattainable to him--the cheerleader to Thor's quarterback, while Loki was the geek fantasizing about her in the corner and hating himself for it.

I don't think Blood Brothers cast her in a bad light as much as it drives home the fact that she too is flawed. The irony being that not everything Loki said was a lie! If Sif has one major fault it is her overweening arrogance coupled with a frankness that can border on cruelty. That she is a formidable fighter who is 'soft at nothing' is not to be denied but she tends to forget that there are others greater than her, Brunhilde for example. Brunhilde is one of the only Asgardians capable of besting Sif in hand-to-hand combat but she is considerably more modest about her martial prowess. Sif also seems to regard the whole of Midgard as distasteful and comes across as haughty at best, narrow-minded at worst. She is more of a hot-headed warrior-princess type, complex tactics are not exactly her forte.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It's Mighty Thor by Matt Fraction (collecting Mighty Thor #1 to #6).

:cool:

Glad to have a new Thor fan, btw. Thanks to the movie.

Thanks, I take it is available in TPB form?

And yeah, the movie definately made me a fan, I thought it was great, the only movie I have enjoyed more this year so far has been First Class. But then I have been an X-Men fan for a long time.

[ladyloki]

I guess it all depends on what story you read regarding sif and how the writers protray her... I did like her in Thor, so I would like to read more about her, and would enjoy reading the comic in general. There was a message board that had scans of comics with her in them if I find it again I wil post the link and the comments she was making mirror what aeltri was saying I guess thats where I got that impression from. I guess being the only female warrior among men you would develop some arrogence , however she is a good female character not going to take that away from her and like all of us I guess we do have flaws she may not be my number one thor character but she is a good character none the less..

so I do look forward to seeing her in thor 2 and the direction they take her. Brunhilde would be cool in thor 2 as well

[Vartha]

It's never enough. But it's getting better.:)
there's a ton more merchandise than there was about 4 years ago too. :woot:

[Gamma Burst]

there's a ton more merchandise than there was about 4 years ago too. :woot:

Yeah! I don't even like to think how much I've spent on Thor stuff lately.:D

[Gamma Burst]

Thanks, I take it is available in TPB form?

And yeah, the movie definately made me a fan, I thought it was great, the only movie I have enjoyed more this year so far has been First Class. But then I have been an X-Men fan for a long time.

Cool!
Btw, you can find it here:

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=22504501

[Shadowlord X]

Wow, I have to say that I was aware of how deep and complex Sif has been shown to be in the comics. It would be great if the movie franchise were to explore her character like that, and that Jamie Alexander has the acting chops to pull it off.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think Blood Brothers cast her in a bad light as much as it drives home the fact that she too is flawed. The irony being that not everything Loki said was a lie! If Sif has one major fault it is her overweening arrogance coupled with a frankness that can border on cruelty. That she is a formidable fighter who is 'soft at nothing' is not to be denied but she tends to forget that there are others greater than her, Brunhilde for example. Brunhilde is one of the only Asgardians capable of besting Sif in hand-to-hand combat but she is considerably more modest about her martial prowess. Sif also seems to regard the whole of Midgard as distasteful and comes across as haughty at best, narrow-minded at worst. She is more of a hot-headed warrior-princess type, complex tactics are not exactly her forte.
That's fair. But at the same time, she is capable of shedding that arrogance and brusqueness. She did so when she sacrificed herself to save Jane Foster early in Thor's comics. She also came to respect various mortals a great deal, like Eric Masterson. She's basically just a very hard, guarded person whose respect must be earned. Her standards are just way higher than most mortals would ever expect or could hope to meet.

[kedrell]

Given its release date, when would it be logical for filming to commence for Thor 2?

Probably sometime early this upcoming fall. Finishing principle photography by around December-February and then post-production until release(9-10 months or so).

[R_Hythlodeus]

Given its release date, when would it be logical for filming to commence for Thor 2?
Around June, I guess. Casting will probably start not later than March.

[Rock Sexton]

So they're shooting at Shepperton Studios in England eh ..... Interesting ....

[Gamma Burst]

Kenneth Branagh's interview from Comingsoon.net

I'll post the relevant bits:

CS: It seems like it would be easier to get financing and distribution this time around now with the success of "Thor," which should help.
Branagh: Yeah, I would've thought so. I mean, I never assume anything about these things, but I would say, listen, you just noticed it in terms of a lot of people are sending things, and that's great. I'm very, very pleased about that and I want to make sure that I have as good a time as I had on "Thor." I'm weighing things up carefully, but in the meantime, I'm having a great time learning all over again about screen acting and enjoying it hugely.

CS: You decided not to direct the "Thor" sequel. Are you still going to be involved as producer since you helped created this world?
Branagh: I think that really it's over to the guys with that. Timing-wise, it just wasn't going to work for me, and that's absolutely been born out by the kind of year I've had which has been very busy, but I'm very interested. They've made a great choice in Patty Jenkins. I'm very excited about that choice. I'll be speaking to the guys when I get back. They're shooting in Shepperton near me, so no doubt, we'll be hooking up and I'll be as little or as much of it as they'd like.

CS: Since you're not directing the movie, maybe you could have an acting role in it.
Branagh: Why don't you suggest it to them? (Laughs)

CS: Maybe you can play one of the Gods this time. I think getting Patty to direct the movie is the only more unconventional choice they could have gone with than having you direct the first movie.
Branagh: But I'm excited by it. It's a great choice.

[Godzilla2000]

That's fair. But at the same time, she is capable of shedding that arrogance and brusqueness. She did so when she sacrificed herself to save Jane Foster early in Thor's comics. She also came to respect various mortals a great deal, like Eric Masterson. She's basically just a very hard, guarded person whose respect must be earned. Her standards are just way higher than most mortals would ever expect or could hope to meet.

Do you at all think that Sif's behavioral tendencies stem from her constantly having to prove herself a worthy warrior equal to the males of Asgard? In the movies she seems to have garnered quite a bit of respect from everyone, but as you are saying about her comic counterpart it seems like she has to constantly earn respect and that would make her quite aggressive in that she takes for granted that others will always be challenging her worth in a male dominated society.

You know, I was thinking about this, because this is what i tend to do to amuse myself, but I was contemplating what sort of a woman Loki would be unimaginably attracted to. Based upon some of the things I'd researched into the character, while married to Sigyn it looked like he only displayed cursory concern for her, even when she'd defend him. So it got the wheels in my head turning thinking what sort of woman would totally make Loki fall for her and I looked into the Greek Myths for my theories, specifically Hades and his obsession with Persephone. What struck me is that with certain myths from various cultures the personifications of darkness and death seem to always have a predilection towards the innocent, unspoiled type women and it got my mind thinking why this is so. Getting back to the myth of Hades and Persephone he didn't corrupt her and turn her into a creature of darkness. What I'd theorized is that he wanted her to stay relatively untouched by darkness because he wanted someone he could love that could give him a respite from his duties as Lord of the Underworld. Persephone in the myths resides on an island oasis of peace and serenity I believe. Getting back to Loki, I could see him actually falling for a woman of Persephone's type of qualities because in spite of all his evil, he would want the woman he loved to be a woman of grace, insight and wisdom, just like his adoptive mother Frigga, to be his temporary sanctuary away from his dark thoughts or to help him make sense of them in a non-judgmental way. That and maybe he'd just want a woman who he felt comfortable being vulnerable around that would hold him and comfort him.

[Vartha]

My Asgard model update. I keep forgetting to mention that THIS version is from a concept in the Art of Thor. The ground layout is a city map from the book too
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2923/asgardmovie06.jpg

[ladyloki]

Do you at all think that Sif's behavioral tendencies stem from her constantly having to prove herself a worthy warrior equal to the males of Asgard? In the movies she seems to have garnered quite a bit of respect from everyone, but as you are saying about her comic counterpart it seems like she has to constantly earn respect and that would make her quite aggressive in that she takes for granted that others will always be challenging her worth in a male dominated society.

You know, I was thinking about this, because this is what i tend to do to amuse myself, but I was contemplating what sort of a woman Loki would be unimaginably attracted to. Based upon some of the things I'd researched into the character, while married to Sigyn it looked like he only displayed cursory concern for her, even when she'd defend him. So it got the wheels in my head turning thinking what sort of woman would totally make Loki fall for her and I looked into the Greek Myths for my theories, specifically Hades and his obsession with Persephone. What struck me is that with certain myths from various cultures the personifications of darkness and death seem to always have a predilection towards the innocent, unspoiled type women and it got my mind thinking why this is so. Getting back to the myth of Hades and Persephone he didn't corrupt her and turn her into a creature of darkness. What I'd theorized is that he wanted her to stay relatively untouched by darkness because he wanted someone he could love that could give him a respite from his duties as Lord of the Underworld. Persephone in the myths resides on an island oasis of peace and serenity I believe. Getting back to Loki, I could see him actually falling for a woman of Persephone's type of qualities because in spite of all his evil, he would want the woman he loved to be a woman of grace, insight and wisdom, just like his adoptive mother Frigga, to be his temporary sanctuary away from his dark thoughts or to help him make sense of them in a non-judgmental way. That and maybe he'd just want a woman who he felt comfortable being vulnerable around that would hold him and comfort him.


Sigyn is the innocent, caring type in the comics. Loki does beg thor to save her life so I think he does love her deep down but he is so comsumed with his lust for power and self hatred that he cannot express it in the " normal loving way" he proberly sees this loving affection as weakeness however he does keep her around but I think she does fill that escape away from his dark thoughts like you said. I wish she was in the comics more I think she is a character with alot of potential but they focus too much on Sif or the enchantress they are the dominent female characters I think but she could be one awesome character who could give sif a run for her money not in terms of fighting but character.

too bad she could not be in the movies.... I think she would make a fine addition to the Thor cast. She could be someone who does not like what Loki does but is not afraid to stand up for him.

[Godzilla2000]

Sigyn is the innocent, caring type in the comics. Loki does beg thor to save her life so I think he does love her deep down but he is so comsumed with his lust for power and self hatred that he cannot express it in the " normal loving way" he proberly sees this loving affection as weakeness however he does keep her around but I think she does fill that escape away from his dark thoughts like you said. I wish she was in the comics more I think she is a character with alot of potential but they focus too much on Sif or the enchantress they are the dominent female characters I think but she could be one awesome character who could give sif a run for her money not in terms of fighting but character.

too bad she could not be in the movies.... I think she would make a fine addition to the Thor cast. She could be someone who does not like what Loki does but is not afraid to stand up for him.

Hmmm...from what I'd read he tricked her into marrying him. Maybe I'm getting the Norse myth mixed up with the comic's version of it? But you know, the fanfiction writer in me thinks because Sigyn is Asgardian Loki might have married her not out of love but to make himself look better in Odin's eyes. Logically what better way to say "I am adopting the Asgardian ways!" than by marrying one of them?

That and Sigyn is not that innocent as she was directly responsible for Donald Blake's demise. And then created a clone of him to fool everyone into thinking he was still alive to cover her own butt. Deception, even if with good intentions in mind, does not equal innocence I'd say.

Here's the direct source page from Marvel's website for the character:
http://marvel.com/universe/Sigyn

[ladyloki]

Hmmm...from what I'd read he tricked her into marrying him. Maybe I'm getting the Norse myth mixed up with the comic's version of it? But you know, the fanfiction writer in me thinks because Sigyn is Asgardian Loki might have married her not out of love but to make himself look better in Odin's eyes. Logically what better way to say "I am adopting the Asgardian ways!" than by marrying one of them?

That and Sigyn is not that innocent as she was directly responsible for Donald Blake's demise and then creating a clone of him to fool everyone into thinking he was still alive to cover her own butt. Deception, even if with good intentions in mind, does not equal innocence I'd say.

Here's the direct source page from Marvel's website for the character:
http://marvel.com/universe/Sigyn


yes she is tricked into marriage but she stays with him out of loyalty and duty at first but later grows to care for him .. she tends to him as the duitful, loyal wife maybe not so innocent but naive she does things not realizing that is all part of her husbands scemes.. She does more good things than bad , she killed donald blake not intentionaly and while she did try to cover it up she does own up to it, she does alot more good than bad dispite being married to loki which is intersting http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/sigynthor.htm another bio


so what does everyone think the story line will be for the sequel ? getting back on topic lol

[Godzilla2000]

What I'd ultimately like to see is that Thanos is revealed at the end of Avengers just to set him up as the big bad for Thor 2. But the first order of business of course will be Odin's cleansing of Loki, and by cleansing I mean Odin laying the smackdown on him and humbling him.

[ladyloki]

sigyn character dicussion has been move to its own thread in thor world for those that are interested...

Loki will get the smack down ... and I hope earth is not involved but the other realms, maybe the dark elves or some other threat . bigger battles maybe with the asgardian army as well as thor and the others... a good solid story with continuing character devlopment .

[Vartha]

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8646/asgardmovie07.jpg

[Carlo Comicus]

Kylie Furneaux, stunt woman in Thor and in The Avengers; talks briefly about Thor 2:

http://www.comicus.it/blog/movie-comics/item/50900-the-avengers-intervista-a-kylie-furneaux

Jaimie and I have talked about Thor 2. We are in Albuquerque, New Mexico filming an action film together right now. She is the lead female in Arnold Schwarznegger's Last Stand. We are both very excited to re-visit the whole world of Thor. There is a lot of training to be done between now and then...I haven't really kept up with the news about who the director is. I did hear that it was a female? We talked about how interesting that will be for the character of Sif.

[Godzilla2000]

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8646/asgardmovie07.jpg

Looking good! Keep up the good work! Now are you just doing Odin's palace or are you going to render all of Asgard?

[DarknessOfDeath]

Kylie Furneaux, stunt woman in Thor and in The Avengers; talks briefly about Thor 2:

http://www.comicus.it/blog/movie-comics/item/50900-the-avengers-intervista-a-kylie-furneaux

Jaimie and I have talked about Thor 2. We are in Albuquerque, New Mexico filming an action film together right now. She is the lead female in Arnold Schwarznegger's Last Stand. We are both very excited to re-visit the whole world of Thor. There is a lot of training to be done between now and then...I haven't really kept up with the news about who the director is. I did hear that it was a female? We talked about how interesting that will be for the character of Sif.




*drools* jaimie:hrt:

[Vartha]

Looking good! Keep up the good work! Now are you just doing Odin's palace or are you going to render all of Asgard?
Going to try to do all of Asgard on that map. It just won't be very detailed like the film lol

[Gamma Burst]

OM HIDDLESTON ON RETURNING AS LOKI
by Edward Douglas
December 05, 2011

One of the big breakouts this year, at least when it comes to superhero movies, is Tom Hiddleston’s portrayal of Loki in Marvel Studios' Thor and he'll be returning next summer as the villain of Joss Whedon’s The Avengers.

At the press junket for Steven Spielberg’s War Horse, SuperHeroHype got to talk to Hiddleston about the role that kicked off an amazing year and has made him somewhat of a household name especially among the ladies, who clearly love their bad boys.

"The whole Loki thing is just so exciting," he told us. "It is quite surreal, because I never expected it to be so fervent, for the passion to be so intense and one always hopes one's work is going to be appreciated, but my God it's a compliment that people have responded to what I did and everybody who’s written letters say such lovely things like 'I really understood what Loki was going through and I understood his emotional predicament' so it’s pretty great."

"It's nice to come back, like an old friend," he said about his return for The Avengers. "When I came back to do 'Avengers,' I'd gone off and done F. Scott Fitzgerald and Captain Nicholls and Freddie Page in the 'Deep Blue Sea' and when I came back to Loki I was like, 'Hey, man, how’s it going?'"

The question on most minds is whether we’ll see Loki in Thor 2 - as if you could keep him away. It certainly sounds like Loki won’t be dying in The Avengers, so Hiddleston will have a chance to work with new director Patty Jenkins and he shared his thoughts on what he feels she’ll bring to the table:

"I had dinner with some of the executives at Marvel and Chris Hemsworth and Patty in London and she's amazing, really. She's the most incredibly fearless director and has a really inate understanding of the muscularity of a character like Thor. I'm not just saying he's jacked-up. I mean, the character itself has an enormously muscular, visceral, emotional complexity and Patty understands it, and she understands it in her bones."

When we spoke with Thor director Kenneth Branagh a few weeks back, we suggested that maybe he could have an acting role in the sequel since he wasn't directing, and Hiddleston agreed with us that it was a good idea without necessarily confirming that he would put in a good word.

"Let's hope Patti thinks he's worth it 'cause I think he is," he said with his usual charm.

Look for our full video interview with Hiddleston over on ComingSoon.net sometime before War Horse is released on December 25.

[BigThor]

I just hope she treats like the pordominantly "masculine" character that he is and doesn't hit us over that head with feminine themes.

[Gamma Burst]

From what Tom said, it seems she gest that.

[04nbod]

I don't think Blood Brothers cast her in a bad light as much as it drives home the fact that she too is flawed. The irony being that not everything Loki said was a lie! If Sif has one major fault it is her overweening arrogance coupled with a frankness that can border on cruelty. That she is a formidable fighter who is 'soft at nothing' is not to be denied but she tends to forget that there are others greater than her, Brunhilde for example. Brunhilde is one of the only Asgardians capable of besting Sif in hand-to-hand combat but she is considerably more modest about her martial prowess. Sif also seems to regard the whole of Midgard as distasteful and comes across as haughty at best, narrow-minded at worst. She is more of a hot-headed warrior-princess type, complex tactics are not exactly her forte.

That is exactly as I see her. Its not necessarily bad but writers ignore her flaws which is what makes her unlikable to me. She does awful things sometimes, she's cold, she's impersonal, she's arrogant, she's whiny, she's entitled but other characters never see that. Its never brought up. She's like Thor had he not been kicked out to learn humility. Brunnhilde is so much better as a character.


That's fair. But at the same time, she is capable of shedding that arrogance and brusqueness. She did so when she sacrificed herself to save Jane Foster early in Thor's comics. She also came to respect various mortals a great deal, like Eric Masterson. She's basically just a very hard, guarded person whose respect must be earned. Her standards are just way higher than most mortals would ever expect or could hope to meet.

She saved Jane because she knew her death would break Thor, not because she gave a damn about Jane.

When Jane was stuck in the Runestaff dimension we are told Sif could have switched places with her before using the runestaff but didn't, (which was a retcon and made her look awful) throughout the journey to find Jane she was thinking 'I hope Thor doesn't love her' over and over again, she watched as Jane married Keith Kincaid knowing Jane had no memory that she loved Thor, and then after all the whining left Thor straight after to go back to Asgard. Jane was no longer a threat so she didn't have to tolerate Midgard anymore. Jane got her memories back and nothing was said to either Sif or Thor about any of this. Its just ignored because it made both of them look selfish and inconsiderate.

[BigThor]

From what Tom said, it seems she gest that.

What he meant by "muscularity" was the complexity of his character not masculinity, I'm just saying that I hope she doesn't make Thor 2 more focused on things like romance and love than it should be.

I'm not trying to sound sexist it's just that "females" naturally gravitate towards relationships and love, while "males" gravitate towards action and adventure.

[Pac-Master]

Patty Jenkins= out due to creative differences.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/12/director-patty-jenkins-exiting-thor-2-sequel/

EXCLUSIVE: Director Patty Jenkins is leaving Thor 2. Best known for directing Charlize Theron to an Oscar in Monster and the pilot of AMC’s The Killing, Jenkins had been set to helm the film in late September. I’m told that Marvel Studios is already talking to agencies as it canvasses for a new director, something that is expected to happen quickly. Her exit had to do with creative differences, but the feeling is that she’ll probably end up working on one of these superhero films, but perhaps not on a sequel. Marvel will have to move fast because it has to meet a July 26, 2013 release date for the sequel, which brings back Chris Hemsworth as the hammer-wielding superhero, and Thor co-writer Don Payne is writing the script. The Kenneth Branagh-directed original grossed $448 million worldwide and launched the star of Hemsworth, who reprised Thor in The Avengers and then played the latter title role opposite Kristen Stewart and Charlize Theron in Snow White and the Huntsman for Universal.

[RealIrOnMaN]

http://www.deadline.com/2011/12/director-patty-jenkins-exiting-thor-2-sequel/ - Thor 2 lost its director, Patty Jenkins *sigh*

[RealIrOnMaN]

Nice job, kid)

[Pac-Master]

Nice job, kid)
Haha, thanks.

[R_Hythlodeus]

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

[RealIrOnMaN]

This is really sad. I mean, they've already done a lot of storyboards, concept art and promotional art for the movie. The only things that are in need of tinkering with - is the script and, from now on, the new director.

I would love to see Branagh back. I'm dead serious.

[Gamma Burst]

Any i deas on the next choice?!

[R_Hythlodeus]

Still hoping for Duncan Jones, but that is a wet dream