The Official ASM THEATRICAL TRAILER Thread!

[Troy_Parker]

I meant that I thought that the Sandman storyline was done well.

Well...

To each their own.

:)

[lightningblade]

Leaving out skinny venom SM3 was pretty good...


to me.

[Godzilla2014]

Well then you're a lucky man.

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0801/alcohol-demotivational-poster-1200553093.jpg

What? I don't know about any of you guys, but I'll be paying to see the start of a new Spider-Man franchise. I'm not seeing this movie for 2 hours of Spider-Man kicking ass.

If I wanted 2 hours of ass kicking, I'd just watch a mindless action flick. I want to be immersed in a story, and I can't get that without a proper character set up. Leaving the origin out would take me out of the story completely.

Origins aren't the only way to set up a character. It is that type of limited mind set that chokes this genre.

[VenomSpawn]

Origins aren't the only way to set up a character. It is that type of limited mind set that chokes this genre.

Give me an example of a great movie where the character didn't have a background.

[Godzilla2014]

Give me an example of a great movie that didn't give their character a background.

Batman.

[©KAW]

Again, yes they do. You're telling me that "competition is something that has always happened between studios at the box office, it's nothing new"... yet you fail to see how these 3 movies will be competing against each other? :dry:Sony is going to promote the movie how they see fit, they're not moved by people saying "we'v seen Bane and Catwoman, okay Sony now show us The Lizard." As you can see, they still haven't done so, and we've been begging them to for months. Like I said, if they gave a sh-- about Batman/Avengers we would have seen THE LIZARD in a HD pic by now.

It's obvious that all 3 of these movies are going to make a ****LOAD of money. Especially TDKR and TASM. We're talking about which movie will make the most.Why should we care? Sony, Warner Bros. and Disney ain't cutting us a check. Who the hell cares which one makes more money!



Because all 3 of those movies are comic book movies.

._.That doesn't matter, they're all giant properties going head-to-head with each other for box office dollars. MONEY doesn't care what genre you're from.

[VenomSpawn]

Batman.

I haven't seen that movie in a while, so I can't give my thoughts on that.

But for me, the origin is completely necessary. The story won't make sense if they don't tell us why he's doing what he's doing.

[Troy_Parker]

Sony is going to promote the movie how they see fit, they're not moved by people saying "we'v seen Bane and Catwoman, okay Sony now show us The Lizard." As you can see, they still haven't done so, and we've been begging them to for months. Like I said if they gave a sh-- about Batman/Avengers we would have seen THE LIZARD in a HD pic by now.


Regardless of how much it has been anticipated, how much of TASM has been spoiled? We've had a ****load of set pictures of Spidey. A ****load of set videos of Spidey. 3 blurry as **** pictures of the Comic Con footage, of which only 1 featured the Lizard.

The Dark Knight Rises has had the 6 minute prologue leaked, set pictures of all major characters. Joesph Gordon-Levitt character's fate has been spoiled. I'm pretty sure the plot from essentially start to end has been revealed.

Sony's trying to play their cards right. I'd say, they've done a good job. But people will lose interest soon, which is why we're getting a trailer next month.


Why should we care? Sony, Warner Bros. and Disney ain't cutting us a check. Who the hell cares which one makes more money!


:dry:


That doesn't matter, they're all giant properties going head-to-head with each other for box office dollars. MONEY doesn't care what genre you're from.

You missed my original point completely though. We were talking about which movie will make more.

[Troy_Parker]

Batman.

The origin is still in there though. Not to the extent as it is in Batman Begins, but it's in there.

[Godzilla2014]

The origin is still in there though. Not to the extent as it is in Batman Begins, but it's in there.

But it didn't spend an hour on the origin before we saw Batman kicking ass.

[Troy_Parker]

But it didn't spend an hour on the origin before we saw Batman kicking ass.

Yep.

But I'm still not sure what your point is. Is this about a personal preference?

I have no problem with seeing one of my favourite hero's origin again. Although after 2 linear origins, I'm guessing the next reboot will do it through flashbacks or something along those lines.

[©KAW]

Regardless of how much it has been anticipated, how much of TASM has been spoiled? We've had a ****load of set pictures of Spidey. A ****load of set videos of Spidey. 3 blurry as **** pictures of the Comic Con footage, of which only 1 featured the Lizard.

The Dark Knight Rises has had the 6 minute prologue leaked, set pictures of all major characters. Joesph Gordon-Levitt character's fate has been spoiled. I'm pretty sure the plot from essentially start to end has been revealed.

Sony's trying to play their cards right. I'd say, they've done a good job. But people will lose interest soon, which is why we're getting a trailer next month.LMAO, lose interest, that will never happen. And the trailer is on track to be released during the last month of the year, something most studios are doing with their big films. Oh, and believe me when I say, we'll know every single thing about TASM way before its release date, perhaps even the real script leaked online.

You missed my original point completely though. We were talking about which movie will make more.Out of TASM and TDKR, let me end that idiotic discussion for you, TDKR will make more.

[VenomSpawn]

3 blurry as **** pictures of the Comic Con footage, of which only 1 featured the Lizard.

Uh....actually we got 4 pictures out of Comic-Con and they were ALL of the Lizard.

[Troy_Parker]

Uh....actually we got 4 pictures out of Comic-Con and they were ALL of the Lizard.

Right, right. But weren't they all extremely pixelated?

[VenomSpawn]

Right, right. But weren't they all extremely pixelated?

There weren't that bad. You could still make out the important things (his tail, the shape of his head, his colors, his body type).

[Troy_Parker]

LMAO, lose interest, that will never happen. And the trailer is on track to be released during the last month of the year, something most studios are doing with their big films. Oh, and believe me when I say, we'll know every single thing about TASM way before its release date, perhaps even the real script leaked online.


But that's inevitable. Look at how early in the game it is for TDKR. :dry:



Out of TASM and TDKR, let me end that idiotic discussion for you, TDKR will make more.

I'll PM a mod to delete every box office related comment on here, all-knowing KAW! :wow:

[Troy_Parker]

There weren't that bad. You could still make out the important things (his tail, the shape of his head, his colors, his body type).

You're not helping. At all. :hehe:

Still, they're pretty damn terrible. The effects were unfinished and you can only barely make out some details. The full body shot of Lizzie might as well be a silhouette.

[VenomSpawn]

The full body shot of Lizzie might as well be a silhouette.

Like this?

http://www.kittyspryde.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Hasbro-Marvel-Panel-SDCC2011-Presentation007.jpg

[Troy_Parker]

Yep.

Like that.

[©KAW]

But that's inevitable. Look at how early in the game it is for TDKR. :dry:Yep, and it just proves my point that Sony don't give a damn about Bats promotion or leaked material. They've got plenty of time to blow their wad, and they will, and then we'll all be claiming that we've seen too much.

I'll PM a mod to delete every box office related comment on here, all-knowing KAW! :wow:Don't bother, you mention which movie is gonna make more money between TASM/TDKR, and they'll be too busy laughing hysterically to respond.

[spider-neil]

Like this?

http://www.kittyspryde.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Hasbro-Marvel-Panel-SDCC2011-Presentation007.jpg

That picture is making me geek out. Spidey stalking lizard in the sewers. Yes!

[TheWallCrawler]

the lizard didn't look too big in that silhouette, wasn't he supposed to be huge?

[©KAW]

He's HUGE in the leaked pic, no doubt about it.

[First Avenger]

Darn,I had a dream tonight and guess what was it about?ASM trailer lol

[©KAW]

No one dreams about naked women anymore...? :dry:

[AnneFan]

No one dreams about naked women anymore...? :dry:
Don't worry, I've got that covered.

[First Avenger]

^Yeah,It's not like we dream the same things over and over again.

[VenomSpawn]

No one dreams about naked women anymore...? :dry:

Never thought I'd see the day.

[VenomSpawn]

That picture is making me geek out. Spidey stalking lizard in the sewers. Yes!

That quote in your post got really messed up. :funny:

[©KAW]

I think with the next trailer, they're going to have to blow their wad. At one point, I said that they should wait until the third trailer. But now, I think they need to shut faces with one single trailer. What do I mean by this, I mean they need to show the emotional part, the best acting that the film has to offer (including action and drama scenes). And they need to show a good part of (but not necessary all) of The Lizard. Cool web-slinging scenes. Perhaps a scene with one quip (just one). A swift Spidey/Lizard encounter. Two pieces of their best action sequences, to let people know that Marc Webb can handle big action scenes...which we still don't know if he can.

[VenomSpawn]

I actually agree with that. There's too much doubt about this movie from the GA, and Sony needs to show everyone they mean business. Sony needs to shut up all the naysayers and assure us that we're in for one damn great film.

[ironwez20]

No one dreams about naked women anymore...? :dry:

i dream about pie.:awesome:

[Oscorp]

i dream about pie.:awesome:

I know what kind of "pie" you dream about...

cream...

[Spider-ManHero12]

i dream about pie.:awesome: :ninja:

[VenomSpawn]

I know what kind of "pie" you dream about...

cream...

Mmm.....cream pie....

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

The mods need to change this thread to the pie thread. It's incorrectly labeled as The Official ASM THEATRICAL TRAILER THREAD!

[UltimateWebhead]

I think with the next trailer, they're going to have to blow their wad. At one point, I said that they should wait until the third trailer. But now, I think they need to shut faces with one single trailer. What do I mean by this, I mean they need to show the emotional part, the best acting that the film has to offer (including action and drama scenes). And they need to show a good part of (but not necessary all) of The Lizard. Cool web-slinging scenes. Perhaps a scene with one quip (just one). A swift Spidey/Lizard encounter. Two pieces of their best action sequences, to let people know that Marc Webb can handle big action scenes...which we still don't know if he can.

This.

He's a great director but I hope he is more Raimi than Nolan when it comes to action sequences.

[©KAW]

I want some James Cameron style action scenes (namely, Terminator 2 and Aliens). A realistic looking and dramatic approach tailored specifically to each action sequence.

Okay, maybe that's asking for too much.

[PSYLENTGuardian]

^ I believe Marc went to James Cameron for some advice, right?

[Spiderman6592]

Yes he did. Lots of it actually.

[©KAW]

Then I hope the teacher has taught the student well, because James Cameron is a true master at realistic and kinetic looking action sequences.

[UltimateWebhead]

Yes he did. Lots of it actually.

As I remember it was for coaching on how to properly film 3D but hopefully JC imparted some action sequence wisdom as well.

[PSYLENTGuardian]

Then I hope the teacher has taught the student well, because James Cameron is a true master at realistic and kinetic looking action sequences.

Speak the truth (or at least our shared opinion) :up:

[Spiderman6592]

Yes he did which is awesome news.

[Gamma_Powered_God]

That is awesome news, Cameron knows how to do action right.

[Shadowlord X]

That is awesome news, Cameron knows how to do action right.

Agreed!!!

I hate the modern zeitgeist that scorns the "action movie". It takes real directing skill to be able to do great action sequences that excite, thrill, and have you on the edge of your seat. I think great action is a lot harder to do than melodrama.

I believe because of this zeitgeist that very few current movie directors can really do great action. James Cameron is one of the few who truly excels at it. For all Avatar's 'been there...done that' plot the action in the movie was excellent.

If Marc Webb can give us some truly spectacular action in combination with top notch I-max 3D, then this movie can be truly mindblowing.

[ITheSymbioteI]

I think great action is a lot harder to do than drama.

Edited and disagree personally.

True drama, drama that is filled with emotion in every shot, is pretty damn hard to pull off. Because for drama to work, you need to build up the characters, care for them, question judgements, etc etc.

Action scenes can still be fun and engaging without story.

[©KAW]

Agreed, and Spider-Man calls for both to be done very well.

[Shadowlord X]

I see a lot more directors doing drama well now than doing action well.

[©KAW]

They're going to need to know how to do both to pull this film off.

[Mace Bloodstone]

Ok, it's December, wants Trailer... http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt335/bjtilt/beggingpleasesmiley-1.gif

[PSYLENTGuardian]

When I saw "12/1/2011" on my clock... man, such a great feeling. I want that trailer.

[VenomSpawn]

*Looks at clock*
Ok....ok it's December 2nd now. We're getting so close!

*nervously looks at clock again*
Hehe...ok....still December 2nd....not much longer to wait...

*sweating, looks at clock furiously*
GOD DAMN HOW MUCH LONGER DO I HAVE TO WAIT! IT'S STILL DECEMBER 2ND! FATHER TIME IS MAKING ME HIS BlTCH!
http://www.puppstheories.com/spriterips/hulk-gah.gif

[TheSlag]

Edited and disagree personally.

True drama, drama that is filled with emotion in every shot, is pretty damn hard to pull off. Because for drama to work, you need to build up the characters, care for them, question judgements, etc etc.

Action scenes can still be fun and engaging without story.

Agreed! :up: with exception that actions scenes ALONE with no vesting or buying into the characters does little for me.. EVEN IF they are done outstanding.

[Shadowlord X]

The point I was trying to make really is that the modern attitude towards 'action movies' has resulted in a situation where very few directors can do action well. As a result we get movies where the dramatic scenes are all fine and then when we get to the action scenes we end up being underwhelmed and disappointed.

[©KAW]

Well, if you're talking about most current comic book films of the last decade, they can't even do the dramatic scenes well. It's funny, we have an Avengers movie coming out based around several movies (and key characters), yet as characters, they all feel as hollow as a log cabin.
Agreed! :up: with exception that actions scenes ALONE with no vesting or buying into the characters does little for me.. EVEN IF they are done outstanding.
Indeed, unfortunately, we live in a Michael Bay World, where if you blow stuff up in unison with hammy ass performances and cheesy dialogue, you'll get geeks to go Oooh and Aaah like they're having sex. :dry:

[ITheSymbioteI]

Agreed! :up: with exception that actions scenes ALONE with no vesting or buying into the characters does little for me.. EVEN IF they are done outstanding.

Well then be glad, friend, that you are not part of the sheep :D

Most people though, sadly enough, will eat up mindless action and call it good cinema. Either way though, point is, action can still be fun regardless of caring for the characters, ya know?

Like when I saw Transformers 3, I just switched my brain off (alcohol will help) and actually had a decent amount of fun. Not that I'd give that movie anything above 2/5 stars though.

[Spiderman6592]

Action scenes mean nothing if you don't care about the characters that partake in them.

[ITheSymbioteI]

Well, if you're talking about most current comic book films of the last decade, they can't even do the dramatic scenes well.

Well honestly, its about the movie understanding and knowing what it is. Like Marvel Studios is constantly shying away from going too much into drama. They seem to be fixated on this thought of "not enough comedy" which is pissing me off.

But I thought Vaughn in X:FC did a great job of knowing what the movie is and I thought the drama in there was pretty well done. Rushed, but well done. The tension between Charles and Erik was great. And Erik killing Shaw in a symbolic manner impressed me too.

But then again, thats the only comic book movie I can think of in terms of your subject. lol

[ITheSymbioteI]

Action scenes mean nothing if you don't care about the characters that partake in them.

They don't have to mean anything to be fun. Go to freddiew on Youtube and watch a few vids. He does short action scenes. No character building or story, but its fun to watch. Hence the millions of views he gets.

[©KAW]

Well honestly, its about the movie understanding and knowing what it is. Like Marvel Studios is constantly shying away from going too much into drama. They seem to be fixated on this thought of "not enough comedy" which is pissing me off.

But I thought Vaughn in X:FC did a great job of knowing what the movie is and I thought the drama in there was pretty well done. Rushed, but well done. The tension between Charles and Erik was great. And Erik killing Shaw in a symbolic manner impressed me too.

But then again, thats the only comic book movie I can think of in terms of your subject. lol
I agree X:FC did do a pretty good job with the main two characters (Charles and Eric) it was on of the better acting/dramatic performances from the crowd of crap.

[©KAW]

They don't have to mean anything to be fun. Go to freddiew on Youtube and watch a few vids. He does short action scenes. No character building or story, but its fun to watch. Hence the millions of views he gets.
With movies, FUN is sometimes a codeword for horrible script, poor performances, bad direction and mindless entertainment.

[Spiderman6592]

Freddie's videos are fun because they are youtube videos...not multi million dollar Hollywood productions...sorry but that was a horrible example.

[ITheSymbioteI]

Very well, if you don't like that example, then here's another: The Incredible Hulk movie.

Now me and you would care about Hulk already before watching the movie, but I'll give you a personal example. First, lets admit there's like barely any drama in that movie. I don't even remember any scenes that I could call drama honestly. And yet, the movie is entertaining

So I have a friend who went to film school. I showed him the movie like a year ago. He didn't know much about the Hulk or anything, yet he was entertained without caring much for the main characters. Why? He said the pacing and the action kept it together enough to keep the movie engaging.

My point in all this is: Action is easier to pull off than drama. Action can still be done without caring for characters. If it wasn't true, Micheal Bay wouldn't be the success story he is.

[Spiderman6592]

I cared about Hulk before watching the movie and came out extremely disappointed. To each his own, but I can't buy into big action scenes without buying into the characters that are in them.


But yes, I agree, action is way easier to pull of than drama. What I'm saying is the action sucked because the drama sucked. It's never the other way around. Ie: Nolan's Batman films, the action is subpar, but the character development and story more than make up for it.

[StarkTheProdigy]

Action is phenomenal when there's heart to it. With that, comes character development and a great story. It can be done, its rare, but it can be done.

[Spiderman6592]

Precisely.

[Shadowlord X]

Well, if you're talking about most current comic book films of the last decade, they can't even do the dramatic scenes well. It's funny, we have an Avengers movie coming out based around several movies (and key characters), yet as characters, they all feel as hollow as a log cabin.

Indeed, unfortunately, we live in a Michael Bay World, where if you blow stuff up in unison with hammy ass performances and cheesy dialogue, you'll get geeks to go Oooh and Aaah like they're having sex. :dry:


I have to disagree with this completely. I feel all THE AVENGERS characters have been excellently portrayed with real depth in their respective movies. In most of those movies my favourite scenes are not the action scenes but character defining and dramatic scenes, e.g., in THOR my fav scene is between THOR and LOKI in the SHIELD camp. The dramatic and character defining scenes in CA:TFA are so well done that I have become a CAPTAIN AMERICA fan now whereas I was not one before and now I eagerly await the sequel to that movie almost as much as THE AVENGERS.

[Spiderman6592]

I think most of The Avengers characters were handled pretty well in their movies, but I think that's going to be compromised in The Avengers.

[Shadowlord X]

Very well, if you don't like that example, then here's another: The Incredible Hulk movie.

Now me and you would care about Hulk already before watching the movie, but I'll give you a personal example. First, lets admit there's like barely any drama in that movie. I don't even remember any scenes that I could call drama honestly. And yet, the movie is entertaining

So I have a friend who went to film school. I showed him the movie like a year ago. He didn't know much about the Hulk or anything, yet he was entertained without caring much for the main characters. Why? He said the pacing and the action kept it together enough to keep the movie engaging.

My point in all this is: Action is easier to pull off than drama. Action can still be done without caring for characters. If it wasn't true, Micheal Bay wouldn't be the success story he is.


I think you are missing the point here. You are making the statement that because the action and pacing helped carry the movie and kept it engaging then action is easier.

This is wrong.

Leterrier did spectacular action in that movie; he is good at it. That's why it carried the movie because it was really well done action that was engrossing and exciting.

That's not easy to do. Leterrier does well in this movie. Most directors nowadays would have not done anywhere near as good action. As a result their movie would fall flat.

[Shadowlord X]

With movies, FUN is sometimes a codeword for horrible script, poor performances, bad direction and mindless entertainment.


Sometimes FUN also simply is FUN.

I recently rewatched the Indiana Jones TRILOGY (there is no 4th film; LOL) and I had so much FUN. Those movies are GREAT and stand the test of time. They are mainly FUN; great action, witty dialogue, great pacing, cool characters, etc. There's minimal real character developement and they are not 'deep' by any means. But they are still classics!

[Oscorp]

A Spider-Man movie should be both fun, serious and deep.

[craigdbfan]

A Spider-Man movie should be both fun, serious and deep.

That sounds like a good girlfriend. :rimshot:

[©KAW]

Haha...plus he said both and then named three things. :)

[ITheSymbioteI]

I think you are missing the point here. You are making the statement that because the action and pacing helped carry the movie and kept it engaging then action is easier.

This is wrong.

Leterrier did spectacular action in that movie; he is good at it. That's why it carried the movie because it was really well done action that was engrossing and exciting.

That's not easy to do. Leterrier does well in this movie. Most directors nowadays would have not done anywhere near as good action. As a result their movie would fall flat.

My point was action can still keep a movie together without character development. Drama obviously can't.

Either way, my honest opinion is Drama is harder.

[spider-neil]

I'm tired of watching action movies and being bored out of my mind because I don't care for the characters because they haven't been developed.

[Juicy J]

I think most of The Avengers characters were handled pretty well in their movies, but I think that's going to be compromised in The Avengers.

Why? Do you not have faith in Whedon?

[Spiderman6592]

I don't have faith in the project. I don't think any director could handle it appropriately, it's not his fault.

[SpeterMan3]

Haha...plus he said both and then named three things. :)
:awesome:

[MessiahDecoy123]

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[MessiahDecoy123]

Sometimes FUN also simply is FUN.

I recently rewatched the Indiana Jones TRILOGY (there is no 4th film; LOL) and I had so much FUN. Those movies are GREAT and stand the test of time. They are mainly FUN; great action, witty dialogue, great pacing, cool characters, etc. There's minimal real character developement and they are not 'deep' by any means. But they are still classics!
I don't think Raiders or Last Crusade are shallow. They do have the theme of evil men trying to pervert Holy relics but are destroyed by righteousness.

Star Wars has a little depth too with the force being a possible spiritual balance between good and evil that requires faith understand and control. LOTR has the power corrupts theme. The Matrix suggest society is a controlling mechanism for energy we must resist. Jurassic Park suggest man's effort to toy with nature will end tragically.

Many great movies have important themes and subtext. It engroses the viewer even more making them invested mentally and emotionally. Then you have the fun and thrilling scenes that makes the overall experience memorable but the underlying message is what you passdown to your children. Dumb movies have little use other than cheap, forgettable thrills.

[Shadowlord X]

Having a prevailing theme and thus a little depth does not equal deep. A movie with real depth spends lots of time exploring many aspects of that theme. This would include movies like American History X, Crash, etc.

Movies like the IJ trilogy, SW, JP, etc., are not like that and they are not deep by any means.

People didn't walk away from JP thinking about the ramifications of meddling with nature; they were in awe of the amazing dinosaur effects and exhilarating action sequences.

[Pac-Master]

Apple Trailers runs INCREDIBLY SMOOTH now on my laptop for some reason. None of the choppiness I had before is present. PERFECT TIMING!!!!! :awesome: :awesome: :awesome:

[Pac-Master]

Edit: Double post

[MessiahDecoy123]

Having a prevailing theme and thus a little depth does not equal deep. A movie with real depth spends lots of time exploring many aspects of that theme. This would include movies like American History X, Crash, etc.

Movies like the IJ trilogy, SW, JP, etc., are not like that and they are not deep by any means.

People didn't walk away from JP thinking about the ramifications of meddling with nature; they were in awe of the amazing dinosaur effects and exhilarating action sequences.


On the surface all everyone cared about were the SFX for Jurassic Park but most people could appreciate that there was a cautionary tale about science.

The better blockbusters offer moral subtext or some basic allegory so the movie resonates beyond a superficial level.

But I'd argue that the endings to Raiders and Last Crusade were just as deep as anything in Crash. The Nazis trying to pervert religious relic only to be destroyed in the process by God's power is more powerful than Crash which isn't really deep but actually sappy melodrama.

The ending to Schindler's List is deep with all the Jews Schindler saved crowds around him as he weeps and says he should've done more. The Jews try to console him. That's extremely powerful. Not as powerful but still deep is Darth Vader redeems himself by stopping the emperor from corrupting his son like Vader was corrupted decades before thereby bringing balance to the galaxy.

Crash doesn't have much weight. It's a soap opera with racist activity.

[UltimateWebhead]

Having a prevailing theme and thus a little depth does not equal deep. A movie with real depth spends lots of time exploring many aspects of that theme. This would include movies like American History X, Crash, etc.

Movies like the IJ trilogy, SW, JP, etc., are not like that and they are not deep by any means.

People didn't walk away from JP thinking about the ramifications of meddling with nature; they were in awe of the amazing dinosaur effects and exhilarating action sequences.

I stopped reading right there.

[ironwez20]

So are we gettin a trailer on Tuesday or sometime this week?

[Pac-Master]

So are we gettin a trailer on Tuesday or sometime this week?Some sort of footage will be shown at a Russian Movie Expo on the 6th, 7th, and 8th. The new trailer will possibly be shown there. We'll be getting it online at an unknown date this month.

[ITheSymbioteI]

Apple Trailers runs INCREDIBLY SMOOTH now on my laptop for some reason. None of the choppiness I had before is present. PERFECT TIMING!!!!! :awesome: :awesome: :awesome:

Apple Trailers run at 30fps right? Curious.

[Pac-Master]

Apple Trailers run at 30fps right? Curious.I'm not sure.

[AnneFan]

I recently bought an iMac 27'' computer, so bring on the Spidey and TDKR trailers.

[Pac-Master]

I'm just so glad that I can watch them in HD with no interruptions now.

[mackblack01]

When does the trailer's supposed to hit the web(no pun intended)?

[Pac-Master]

Sometime this month. I'd say somewhere close to the 21st (two Sony movies released on the same day). But we might be getting a trailer description this week.

[Troy_Parker]

I thought only clips were being released this week at the expo, not a trailer?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Sometime this month. I'd say somewhere close to the 21st (two Sony movies released on the same day). But we'll be getting a trailer description this week. Agreed.

I hope the next trailer does something for me, becuase the first teaser was pretty underwhelming.

[craigdbfan]

I liked the last trailer but in terms of getting me excited for Spider-Man it did very little.

The overt focus on Peter Parker was good as we can somewhat rest easy that they seem to have gotten that part down well but we still have no idea on how Spider-Man has been handled at all.

I'm also really hoping the entire first person point of view was only for the teaser. If we get to many of those shots in the actual film it'll feel like a complete cop out.

Plus the the first person view in TAS didn't look nearly as good as the one from the Raimi series who used an actual camera to film those scenes instead of making it all CGI.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I mean, the teaser didn't give me chills like the 2002 film teaser did. I just hope the next trailer is good.

[Spiderman6592]

I liked the last trailer but in terms of getting me excited for Spider-Man it did very little.

The overt focus on Peter Parker was good as we can somewhat rest easy that they seem to have gotten that part down well but we still have no idea on how Spider-Man has been handled at all.

I'm also really hoping the entire first person point of view was only for the teaser. If we get to many of those shots in the actual film it'll feel like a complete cop out.

Plus the the first person view in TAS didn't look nearly as good as the one from the Raimi series who used an actual camera to film those scenes instead of making it all CGI.

There were no first person sequences is the Raimi films..


And Webb has already stated that it will be used very sparingly for very specific scenes.

[Troy_Parker]

Plus the the first person view in TAS didn't look nearly as good as the one from the Raimi series who used an actual camera to film those scenes instead of making it all CGI.

I disagree completely. The first person view in Raimi's film wasn't used anywhere near as extensively as it was in TASM. It was just a camera moving up and down for a few seconds... with TASM, it shook as he jumped, landed. You could make out glints of his shadow as he ran around and whatnot. I loved all of those little details.

I still think that people are saying "it looks too CGI" because they know that it is actually CGI.

What looks so fake about this?

http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j455/Teaa20-08-11/TASM.png

[craigdbfan]

I disagree completely. The first person view in Raimi's film wasn't used anywhere near as extensively as it was in TASM. It was just a camera moving up and down for a few seconds... with TASM, it shook as he jumped, landed. You could make out glints of his shadow as he ran around and whatnot. I loved all of those little details.

I still think that people are saying "it looks too CGI" because they know that it is actually CGI.

What looks so fake about this?

http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j455/Teaa20-08-11/TASM.png

I wasn't a fan of it and the effects while not terrible weren't great either but I'll give it a pass seeing as there is still a ton of time left to polish the effects.

There were no first person sequences is the Raimi films..


And Webb has already stated that it will be used very sparingly for very specific scenes.

It happened during some of the swing scenes albeit not a lot. The final swing in the last scene isn't quite first person as we still see Spider-Man but its damn close to it when he's going in between the taxi.

[Troy_Parker]

But what exactly didn't look great about it?

It looked pretty damn photorealistic to me. The only thing that looked a little shoddy to me was Spidey's reflection as he's jumping towards the window. That's it.

[Oscorp]

I don't think the objects themselves look CGI in the first person shot in the ASM teaser. However, I do think the whole thing looked a little video gamey the way he moved (like when he slided and landed)

[Troy_Parker]

I don't think the objects themselves look CGI in the first person shot in the ASM teaser. However, I do think the whole thing looked a little video gamey the way he moved (like when he slided and landed)

That bit actually did remind me of Mirror's Edge. lol

[Spiderman6592]

I'm with Troy, everyone just says, "It looked bad.", with nothing to back it up. It looks ****ing fantastic.


And calling that .00005 second sequence during the final swing a POV shot is a little generous.

[Pac-Master]

Agreed.

I hope the next trailer does something for me, becuase the first teaser was pretty underwhelming.I remember you saying that you thought it was fantastic....what happened?

[Spiderman6592]

lol Me too. In fact, everyone on this board was off the walls excited about it when it came out.

[Oscorp]

He realised it wasn't a Raimi film ;)

[craigdbfan]

I'm with Troy, everyone just says, "It looked bad.", with nothing to back it up. It looks ****ing fantastic.


And calling that .00005 second sequence during the final swing a POV shot is a little generous.

For all your righteous defending of KAW on his rights to express his opinions you are sure quick to judge others opinions and immediately dismissing them.

Sounds real hypocritical if you ask me.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I remember you saying that you thought it was fantastic....what happened? Ehh, I rewatched it recently
and found it to be....underwhelming, I guess. I hope the next trailer is great though.

[Spider-ManHero12]

He realised it wasn't a Raimi film ;) ....That's not it.

[Pac-Master]

Ehh, I rewatched it recently
and found it to be....underwhelming, I guess. I hope the next trailer is great though.Well, things start to wear off once you watch it for the 2000th time. :cwink:

[Oscorp]

Ehh, I rewatched it recently
and found it to be....underwhelming, I guess. I hope the next trailer is good though.

But you've complained about people "jumping the bandwagon!" whenever people who, at least according to you, liked Raimi's movies back when they were new and then changed opinion about it. Even though it's been ages which actually let you have plenty of time to change opinion and "grow out" of it and see new flaws.

You don't realise that people may have rewatched Raimi's films as well?

[Spiderman6592]

For all your righteous defending of KAW on his rights to express his opinions you are sure quick to judge others opinions and immediately dismissing them.

Sounds real hypocritical if you ask me.

KAW backs his points up, which is why I'm criticizing you. You didn't. Nice try though.

[Ultra Nolanite]

I still think that people are saying "it looks too CGI" because they know that it is actually CGI.

What looks so fake about this?

http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j455/Teaa20-08-11/TASM.png

The left image actually looks more real IMO.

[Spider-ManHero12]

@Pac-Master


^^ It's not just that though. The tone of the teaser is also a turn off as well, but as I said, if the new trailer is good, then great.

[Spider-ManHero12]

But you've complained about people "jumping the bandwagon!" whenever people who, at least according to you, liked Raimi's movies back when they were new and then changed opinion about it. Even though it's been ages which actually let you have plenty of time to change opinion and "grow out" of it and see new flaws.

You don't realise that people may have rewatched Raimi's films as well? I'm sure some people's opininos have changed, but nto everybody's. My main problem with certain people is nto the fact that some disliek the films, but the fact that they claim Raimi was so unfaithufl to the comics which is absoloute complete bulls***.

[Oscorp]

^^ It's not just that though. The tone of the teaser is also a turn off as well, but as I said, if the new trailer is good, then great.

My point still stands. You liked it back then, you don't now. That's OK to you (and to me as well). But others who liked Raimi's films back then but don't now, are called "jumping the bandwagon" by you. Where's the difference?

[Spider-ManHero12]

My point still stands. You liked it back then, you don't now. That's OK to you (and to me as well). But others who liked Raimi's films back then but don't now, are called "jumping the bandwagon" by you. Where's the difference? I didn't mean everybody has jumped the bandwagon when I said that, but there are obivously a few who have.

Why are you provoking me?

[craigdbfan]

KAW backs his points up, which is why I'm criticizing you. You didn't. Nice try though.

I've backed up my points repeatedly. I don't have to reiterate myself just to keep you up to date on my opinions.

[Oscorp]

I didn't mean everybody has jumped the bandwagon when I said that, but there are obivously a few who have.

Why are you provoking me?

Because I think you're being a hypocrite.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Because I think you're being a hypocrite. and if I am, then I'm sorry. But, there are far too many people who have changed their opinions on the X-Men franchise as wlel and not just because of "time going by." I mena ,be hoenst, do youactually think everybody dislikes bryan Singer now because of his X-Men films? No. There are obviously bandwagon fans out there.

You've been purposely trying to provoke me for quite a few days now.

[Oscorp]

I'm critizising you for your hypocrisy, that's not provoking.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm critizising you for your hypocrisy, that's not provoking. Then I have the right to do the same to you or KAW. If you haven't noticed, I haven't started any arguements in a LONG time, but you've been sneakily trying to get me to argue with you for quite a few days now. Please don't be stubborn about it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Like I said, if I'm being a hypocrite, then I'm sorry. However, I find it EXTREMELY disrespecful that somebody, such as yourself, would deliberately try to startr an arguement with me and dereail a thread.

[White_Knight191]

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Come on guys, let's stop arguing...



Now, is the footage that is going to be screened at the movie expo next week the new trailer or just some clips/the same clip from SDCC?

[Spider-ManHero12]

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Come on guys, let's stop arguing...



Now, is the footage that is going to be screened at the movie expo next week the new trailer or just some clips/the same clip from SDCC? ehhh, you know, we've been through this time and time again. I'd love ot move on from the arguements, which I had for a while, but we have people who like to spend days actually trying to get someone pissed off on here. That's just....not right. Even though maybe I was being hypocritical, it shouldn't be brought up randomly in a topic.

[Oscorp]

Then I have the right to do the same to you or KAW. If you haven't noticed, I haven't started any arguements in a LONG time, but you've been sneakily trying to get me to argue with you for quite a few days now. Please don't be stubborn about it.

Yes you have the right to critizise us as well. However, I'm not sneakily trying to provoke you. What would I gain? I'm not a troll and you know that. Hell, I even like the first Spider-Man by Raimi so I'm not a hater of his films. But I really find this kind of hypocrisy really annoying. It's OK for you to change your mind about things but not for others apparently. I know you seem sure that some people "in reality haven't changed their mind" but I just find that weird. There's no point to heavily critizise films you really like just to be like "everyone else". Especially not on the Internet.

And I should point out that it's not only you. I find it extremely annoying how people here call others "jumping the bandwagon" or "troll" as soon as there's something they don't agree about. It's from the both sides.

[White_Knight191]

We are here to talk about Spidey, the character that unites us all.
Not about who we are and what we do... I say, we just stop it and continue to talk about why we are here in the first place.

Now, once again, is the footage that is going to be screened at the movie expo next week the new trailer or just some clips/the same clip from SDCC?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yes you have the right to critizise us as well. However, I'm not sneakily trying to provoke you. What would I gain? I'm not a troll and you know that. Hell, I even like the first Spider-Man by Raimi so I'm not a hater of his films. But I really find this kind of hypocrisy really annoying. It's OK for you to change your mind about things but not for others apparently. I know you seem sure that some people "in reality haven't changed their mind" but I just find that weird. There's no point to heavily critizise films you really like just to be like "everyone else". Especially not on the Internet.

And I should point out that it's not only you. I find it extremely annoying how people here call others "jumping the bandwagon" or "troll" as soon as there's something they don't agree about. It's from the both sides. But that's just the thing, it IS the internet. The internet is full of people who are, plain and simple....odd. Kind of like the people who say Tim Burton's Batman was very unfaithful to the character, which is not true.

[Spider-ManHero12]

We are here to talk about Spidey, the character that unites us all.
Not about who we are and what we do... I say, we just stop it and continue to talk about why we are here in the first place.

Yeah, but this place has been sprawling with negativity lately....

[Oscorp]

But that's just the thing, it IS the internet. The internet is full of people who are, plain and simple....odd. Kind of like the people who say Tim Burton's Batman was very unfaithful to the character, which is not true.

That's true. But I think, saying that people jump the bandwagon whenever people change their mind about things is very uncalled for. Because many people actually do change their mind and because of that, they get treated by others like they don't have a free will and mind of their own.

I'm leaving it at that. I don't want to argue, as you think I do.

[Troy_Parker]

I just hope people who loved Raimi's films will like this movie.

I got into the Ultimate comics first, so I'm loving everything about this reboot... but I hope it's not too edgy for some. :|

[AbsractPo3tic]

But that's just the thing, it IS the internet. The internet is full of people who are, plain and simple....odd. Kind of like the people who say Tim Burton's Batman was very unfaithful to the character, which is not true.

You definitely have a point there because as soon as the franchise was rebooted, a lot of fans I noticed, and even some publication websites, started dumping on Tim Burton's films, fairly and unfairly and the same will happen with Nolan's films more than likely. The truth of it is, time isn't always kind to movies because not only does technology change and evolve, but our tastes do as well. I was 3 when Batman came out so obviously the movie will hold a special place in my heart but when I look at it now, or even Batman Returns, I can see some of the flaws that people older and wiser than me point out or have pointed out. Same with the first spider-man trilogy. For me, the first two movies haven't aged as well as I thought they would even though I still love the 2nd one and like parts of the 1st, but that has to do with my taste changing as I get older and that may have as much to do with people's changing opinions as opposed to just "jumping the bandwagon." Seeing something at 16 is completely different than seeing it at 25

[Spider-ManHero12]

I've got to be honest, I feel like we're going in circles (and I mean everybody) with the bashing on eachother. Some of oyu may be nanoyed with the fact that I say "The good 'ol days" when I talk about 2006, but it's true. I feel like there's always a pack of wolves when I come in here. It makes me want to not be here anymore, tbh.

[Pac-Master]

We are here to talk about Spidey, the character that unites us all.
Not about who we are and what we do... I say, we just stop it and continue to talk about why we are here in the first place.

Now, once again, is the footage that is going to be screened at the movie expo next week the new trailer or just some clips/the same clip from SDCC?
We don't know yet.

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Spider-Man: Quit arguing, people. You all have one thing in common and that's loving me. Now can't you all just get along? For me?

[Spider-ManHero12]

You definitely have a point there because as soon as the franchise was rebooted, a lot of fans I noticed, and even some publication websites, started dumping on Tim Burton's films, fairly and unfairly and the same will happen with Nolan's films more than likely. The truth of it is, time isn't always kind to movies because not only does technology change and evolve, but our tastes do as well. I was 3 when Batman came out so obviously the movie will hold a special place in my heart but when I look at it now, or even Batman Returns, I can see some of the flaws that people older and wiser than me point out or have pointed out. Same with the first spider-man trilogy. For me, the first two movies haven't aged as well as I thought they would even though I still love the 2nd one and like parts of the 1st, but that has to do with my taste changing as I get older and that may have as much to do with people's changing opinions as opposed to just "jumping the bandwagon." Seeing something at 16 is completely different than seeing it at 25 I understand what you're trying to say, but not every comic book fan on the face of this earth changes their opinion like some of you may think. There ARE bandwagon fans out there.

I've got to be honest, I haven't enjoyed much time in hree in 2011, and the only place that really feel "Secure", IMO, is the comics section. People can be annoyed with me saying the "good' ol days" all they want, but the fact is I've had a very negative time on this forum this past year. I feel like it's only a shadow of what it once was and I'm not the only one.

[White_Knight191]

Spider-Man: Quit arguing, people. You all have one thing in common and that's loving me. Now can't you all just get along? For me?
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[Gwendolyn Stacy]

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Spider-Man: Not sure if you're agreeing with me or not.

[Troy_Parker]

I understand what you're trying to say, but not every comic book fan on the face of this earth changes their opinion like some of you may think. There ARE bandwagon fans out there.

I've got to be honest, I haven't enjoyed much time in hree in 2011, and the only place that really feel "Secure", IMO, is the comics section. People can be annoyed with me saying the "good' ol days" all they want, but the fact is I've had a very negative time on this forum this past year. I feel like it's only a shadow of what it once was and I'm not the only one.

I can see what you mean and it's unfortunate that you feel like that... but think about it from the other side, people are talking about how great this reboot will be and whatnot... then almost everytime somebody comes in to say "Ahhh, but it'll never be like the good ol' days back in 06!"

Although it's bound to happen, it is quite annoying. I'd say it's just as annoying as the constant bashing of Raimi's trilogy.

[craigdbfan]

I understand what you're tryign to say, but not every comic book fan on the face of this earth changes their opinion like some of you may think. There ARE bandwagon fans out there.

I've got to be honest, I haven't enjoyed much time in hree in 2011, and the only place that really feel "Secure", IMO, is the comics section. People can be annoyed with me saying the "good'ol days" all they want, but the fact is I've had a very negative time on this forum this past year. I feel like it's only a shadow of what it once was.

I'm completely with you.

The Spidey forum is a rotten shell of what it used to be. It isn't surprising that some of the really good members that used to frequent this place don't even bother posting. Big reason why I hardly ever post in the Spider-Man section.

[Oscorp]

I can see what you mean and it's unfortunate that you feel like that... but think about it from the other side, people are talking about how great this reboot will be and whatnot... then almost everytime somebody comes in to say "Ahhh, but it'll never be like the good ol' days back in 06!"

Although it's bound to happen, it is quite annoying. I'd say it's just as annoying as the constant bashing of Raimi's trilogy.

Exactly! Thank you! :up:

[Spider-ManHero12]

I can see what you mean and it's unfortunate that you feel like that... but think about it from the other side, people are talking about how great this reboot will be and whatnot... then almost everytime somebody comes in to say "Ahhh, but it'll never be like the good ol' days back in 06!"

Although it's bound to happen, it is quite annoying. I'd say it's just as annoying as the constant bashing of Raimi's trilogy. I rarely see people say that though. I have on occasion, but only because I felt it's okay to say. The fact is, this place is nothing like those days anymore and it saddens me because I was so happy in those days.

And even when I apologize for going off topic, it's okay for others to do it. If I say "stop bashing Riami", I'll get snarky remark.

[Spiderman6592]

To extend on Troy's point, it wouldn't have ben so tough if you didn't refer to the SM3 days as the "good ol' days". It's annoying dude. If you didn't always say **** like that, no one would be up in your grille. We want to talk about and look forward to the new movie, but it gets hard to do when you're always basking the glory of the Raimi tirlogy's heyday.

[AbsractPo3tic]

I understand what you're trying to say, but not every comic book fan on the face of this earth changes their opinion like some of you may think. There ARE bandwagon fans out there.

I've got to be honest, I haven't enjoyed much time in hree in 2011, and the only place that really feel "Secure", IMO, is the comics section. People can be annoyed with me saying the "good' ol days" all they want, but the fact is I've had a very negative time on this forum this past year. I feel like it's only a shadow of what it once was and I'm not the only one.

You're probably right about that lol I generally like to think people are more positive or progressive but clearly that's not the case. I think I'm just going off of what I know of people outside of the Internet and how I'm used to interacting with people and I can always get a real reasoning behind any change in belief or opinion. I will pose this to you though just as a thought: Could the influx of difference of opinions now be from members who just didn't want to speak up on their opinions between 02-07? I wasn't here but from what you say, it was pretty much all praise all the time, but what if there were people who were afraid to speak on their differences of opinions and now that there is a reboot and that era of Spider-man films are over and done, they can now come out and speak their minds..just a theory.

[Spider-ManHero12]

To extend on Troy's point, it wouldn't have ben so tough if you didn't refer to the SM3 days as the "good ol' days". It's annoying dude. If you didn't always say **** like that, no one would be up in your grille. We want to talk about and look forward to the new movie, but it gets hard to do when you're always basking the glory of the Raimi tirlogy's heyday. But it gets annoying when some people are always pointing out the things you hated in Raimi's trilogy. I will not sit on the side and not mention Raimi's films if people keep bringing them up. I have every right to if you do. You people can talk about them negatively without a problem in here, I will talk about them positively in here.

[Spider-ManHero12]

You're probably right about that lol I generally like to think people are more positive or progressive but clearly that's not the case. I think I'm just going off of what I know of people outside of the Internet and how I'm used to interacting with people and I can always get a real reasoning behind any change in belief or opinion. I will pose this to you though just as a thought: Could the influx of difference of opinions now be from members who just didn't want to speak up on their opinions between 02-07? I wasn't here but from what you say, it was pretty much all praise all the time, but what if there were people who were afraid to speak on their differences of opinions and now that there is a reboot and that era of Spider-man films are over and done, they can now come out and speak their minds..just a theory. I highly doubt it, and here's why. There will LAWAYS be a small minority that hates something. There are certain fans that hate nolans Bat films, but the majority loves them. The majority of people (including myself) loved Raimi's films, but there's a small minority that doesn't. There will always be bashers out there no matter what anybody does.

And half the people I knew when S-M3 was going around have long since left this place. Unfortunately.

[Ajendo]

So, let me get this straight, spideyhero12 now believes TASM is going to be good even though before he adamantly believed this reboot didn't have what it takes to be any good let alone be better than Raimi's movies??? And to top it off, he's now chastising people for doing exactly what he's doing and is crying about it???? Lol no surprise there.

[Spider-ManHero12]

And here we go.......

[Troy_Parker]

In Spider-ManHero12's defence, I haven't really seen him mention the previous trilogy that often now, unless it actually gets brought up by somebody else first. And he does seem to be quite optimistic (yet skeptical =P) of the reboot.

Now... there's people that genuinely seem to hate the reboot that don't show their face here, thankfully.

[Spider-ManHero12]

You know, Ajendo, I'm not surprised that you'll go weeks without saying something unless it involves me.

[Eggyman]

You definitely have a point there because as soon as the franchise was rebooted, a lot of fans I noticed, and even some publication websites, started dumping on Tim Burton's films, fairly and unfairly and the same will happen with Nolan's films more than likely. The truth of it is, time isn't always kind to movies because not only does technology change and evolve, but our tastes do as well. I was 3 when Batman came out so obviously the movie will hold a special place in my heart but when I look at it now, or even Batman Returns, I can see some of the flaws that people older and wiser than me point out or have pointed out. Same with the first spider-man trilogy. For me, the first two movies haven't aged as well as I thought they would even though I still love the 2nd one and like parts of the 1st, but that has to do with my taste changing as I get older and that may have as much to do with people's changing opinions as opposed to just "jumping the bandwagon." Seeing something at 16 is completely different than seeing it at 25

I do see what you are saying. It's all very true. Other than people's tastes changing, you have the fact that some people like something in general terms but do have smaller problems with a film or franchise. Sometimes these people might not even realise the problems they have with whatever's in question until they have something to compare it with. Like me, overall I like the Nolan Batfilms, but I've never been completely taken by Bale as Wayne. Does that mean when the next lot of films begin and I find the actor playing Bruce to be a better fit that I'll be a 'bandwagoner'? Even though I've always been quite positive when posting about Nolan's? I guess I could be. But I'll wait till I am and put whatever poster says so back in their box.

With Spidey, same thing. I enjoyed the Raimi films. My favourite hero had his time on the Big Screen. Excellent. But I had my problems with them. Do I hope the new film corrects these problems? Yes, of course I do. On the other hand I know the new film will have its own problems. The Nolan films are seen by most as high quality. They are. But they have their problems, too. Nothing is perfect.

I never expect perfection. Just entertainment. What people are entertained by is completely subjective. Now we have internet, messageboards, and the chance to share our opinions on what we like and what we don't.

Let the threads keep growing.

[AbsractPo3tic]

I highly doubt it, and here's why. There will LAWAYS be a small minority that hates something. There are certain fans that hate nolans Bat films, but the majority loves them. The majority of people (including myself) loved Raimi's films, but there's a small minority that doesn't. There will always be bashers out there no matter what anybody does.

And half the people I knew when S-M3 was going around have long since left this place. Unfortunately.

Good point, but how do you determine a majority? Based on the money a flick makes or based on the opinions of people on the boards? Because I could say based on cash flow alone, the majority of people loved the original batman movies but if you come on boards, it's a different tune altogether. I've never been a fan of saying that how much money something makes equates to customer satisfaction with film, because a lot of those numbers are front loaded, unless its something like dark knight which sustained its numbers for most of that summer. The only way to really determine what the majority felt or feels now, would be go question most of the people who paid to see the flicks and that's impossible to do. I would't even say the majority of people like Nolan's films cause although the money could point to that being highly true, it's a loaded statement that logistically, I can't back up. The transformers trilogy has made an incredible amount of cash but if we look on the internet, that trilogy may as well have made a couple thousand bucks at the box office

[UltimateWebhead]

There were no first person sequences is the Raimi films..


And Webb has already stated that it will be used very sparingly for very specific scenes.

Oh yes there was....

In Spider-man 1, just after he "becomes Spider-man" there is a POV shot of him swinging from high to a low street level. It's only a few seconds long, but it's there. I tried finding a pic or a clip on youtube...no luck.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Good point, but how do you determine a majority? Based on the money a flick makes or based on the opinions of people on the boards? Because I could say based on cash flow alone, the majority of people loved the original batman movies but if you come on boards, it's a different tune altogether. I've never been a fan of saying that how much money something makes equates to customer satisfaction with film, because a lot of those numbers are front loaded, unless its something like dark knight which sustained its numbers for most of that summer. The only way to really determine what the majority felt or feels now, would be go question most of the people who paid to see the flicks and that's impossible to do. I would't even say the majority of people like Nolan's films cause although the money could point to that being highly true, it's a loaded statement that logistically, I can't back up. The transformers trilogy has made an incredible amount of cash but if we look on the internet, that trilogy may as well have made a couple thousand bucks at the box office Well, if you look at the track record for the first 2 films, they recieved critical acclaim. Well, that and the fact that you heard about them literally every where.

[AbsractPo3tic]

I do see what you are saying. It's all very true. Other than people's tastes changing, you have the fact that some people like something in general terms but do have smaller problems with a film or franchise. Sometimes these people might not even realise the problems they have with whatever's in question until they have something to compare it with. Like me, overall I like the Nolan Batfilms, but I've never been completely taken by Bale as Wayne. Does that mean when the next lot of films begin and I find the actor playing Bruce to be a better fit that I'll be a 'bandwagoner'? Even though I've always been quite positive when posting about Nolan's? I guess I could be. But I'll wait till I am and put whatever poster says so back in their box.

With Spidey, same thing. I enjoyed the Raimi films. My favourite hero had his time on the Big Screen. Excellent. But I had my problems with them. Do I hope the new film corrects these problems? Yes, of course I do. On the other hand I know the new film will have its own problems. The Nolan films are seen by most as high quality. They are. But they have their problems, too. Nothing is perfect.

I never expect perfection. Just entertainment. What people are entertained by is completely subjective. Now we have internet, messageboards, and the chance to share our opinions on what we like and what we don't.

Let the threads keep growing.

Agreed 100%..I'm not the biggest fan of Bale as Batman or even the way Batman's character is written in all facets but I still love the films regardless and when the next era comes along, hopefully it does what I want in terms of his character and I felt the same with Spidey. Nolan's films are seen as perfect because they fit the times we live in and appeal to people on that broader base. It's like Bond..if we are going off of money, people LOVED Die Another Day but clearly, the producers didn't, the critics didn't and I would be a part of the fan base that didn't and they changed directions and tones to fit the time we're in now and what fans wanted and asked for after seeing CGI Bond parasailing. The results? Casino Royale

[Oscorp]

I do see what you are saying. It's all very true. Other than people's tastes changing, you have the fact that some people like something in general terms but do have smaller problems with a film or franchise. Sometimes these people might not even realise the problems they have with whatever's in question until they have something to compare it with. Like me, overall I like the Nolan Batfilms, but I've never been completely taken by Bale as Wayne. Does that mean when the next lot of films begin and I find the actor playing Bruce to be a better fit that I'll be a 'bandwagoner'? Even though I've always been quite positive when posting about Nolan's? I guess I could be. But I'll wait till I am and put whatever poster says so back in their box.

With Spidey, same thing. I enjoyed the Raimi films. My favourite hero had his time on the Big Screen. Excellent. But I had my problems with them. Do I hope the new film corrects these problems? Yes, of course I do. On the other hand I know the new film will have its own problems. The Nolan films are seen by most as high quality. They are. But they have their problems, too. Nothing is perfect.

I never expect perfection. Just entertainment. What people are entertained by is completely subjective. Now we have internet, messageboards, and the chance to share our opinions on what we like and what we don't.

Let the threads keep growing.

Good post :up:

[Spiderman6592]

Oh yes there was....

In Spider-man 1, just after he "becomes Spider-man" there is a POV shot of him swinging from high to a low street level. It's only a few seconds long, but it's there. I tried finding a pic or a clip on youtube...no luck.

:facepalm:


I've been over this. That is not a first person shot. You can't see any of the subject's body, nor does the camera move like a person. I've seen countless people try and argue this, but it's a complete farce. I love Raimi's final swings, but let's stop crediting for something he never did.

[AbsractPo3tic]

Well, if you look at the track record for the first 2 films, they recieved critical acclaim. Well, that and the fact that you heard about them literally every where.

Fair enough, but like I mentioned with transformers, the critical acclaim wasn't there, but the money was and the exposure so again, what determines a majority? It seems most people on the net hate transformers with a passion and critics are ambivalent, but the numbers say otherwise. I completely understand where you're coming from and agree with you to a point, but I just don't think the majority or minority thing works in terms of music, movies or anything that is driven on the bottom line. Vanilla Ice and Mc Hammer sold a lot of records back in the day but if you talked to fans in the know, they were garbage acts who couldn't hold a microphone next to guys who weren't selling as much and look what happened to those two.

[Ajendo]

You're probably right about that lol I generally like to think people are more positive or progressive but clearly that's not the case. I think I'm just going off of what I know of people outside of the Internet and how I'm used to interacting with people and I can always get a real reasoning behind any change in belief or opinion. I will pose this to you though just as a thought: Could the influx of difference of opinions now be from members who just didn't want to speak up on their opinions between 02-07? I wasn't here but from what you say, it was pretty much all praise all the time, but what if there were people who were afraid to speak on their differences of opinions and now that there is a reboot and that era of Spider-man films are over and done, they can now come out and speak their minds..just a theory.

A theory very close to the truth, regardless of what spideyhero12 aka Mr recognition may think.

I was chastised and even banned on occasion simply because my opinion went against the grain of those that adored and loved Raimi's movies. Every argument and criticism that is now being made against Raimi is nonsense to me because it's old stuff that I was saying years ago on these very boards, the only difference was I was vocal about it to the point that it attracted attention, people felt offended that their beloved Raimi couldn't please everyone and surprise surprise, flame wars occurred.

Many of the reasons why this reboot is even happening is because of things that I predicted way back in 2003/2004 with the way these movies were heading and the joke in all this is, trying to reason with rabid fanboys when there's no benchmark to compare other spidey movies to is often a waste of time because it's like their brains shut down and go into zombie mode, marching to the mantra of Raimi is a god, everything else is stupid.

Now, in the advent of films in this genre being handled better and with quality productions out there and with a new spidey movie on the horizon, some people are believe it or not are slowly having the scales removed from their eyes and can see the limitations of the spidey movies and now have higher expectations for a movie based on the characters.

For starters, I remember vividly, spideyhero12 would often cite that nobody else could come close to portraying Parker better than Maguire and I'm pretty sure he still believes that JK Simmons can't be topped. The fact is, up until recently, there were too many people here with closed minds and I always swore that I'll be here to broadcast the words, "I told you so" when we get a new spidey film that illuminates the mediocrity of Raimi's movies.

Good movies are good movies regardless of when they're made. Die Hard is still one of the best action movies of all time, From Russia With Love is still one of the best Bond and spy movies of all time. Raimi's spidey movies had a some great scenes but the movies as whole pieces of work just didn't cut the mustard for me and now, many people are only starting to realize this.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ And it's posts liks these that will make it so that nobody will ever get along. When you try to claim something, such as that as fact.

[Ajendo]

What am I claiming as fact, everything I said happened and is happening. Deal with it or take your ball and go home.

[Spiderman6592]

I only started to realize how mediocre I found the Raimi films as I got older. I still love SM1 and 2 to death, but they really aren't anything spectacular. As a 8-12 year old boy who loved Spider-Man, sure, they were the ****ing balls. But now, as a 20 year old, avid filmgoer, I can't appreciate them the way that I used to. Maguire fell flat as Pete, Kirsten Dunst was a terrible Mary Jane besides for the first half of the first film, Doc Ock was way too sympathetic of a character, SM3 sucked as a whole, etc.

I can't predict the future, TASM might fall flat on its face, but I think I'm allowed to say that I like what I've seen and heard about this film already a lot more than I currently enjoy the Raimi films.

[Spider-ManHero12]

What am I claiming as fact, everything I said happened and is happening. Deal with it or take your ball and go home. No, what's happening is that group of people who did not like Raimi's films (and the ones who's opinions have changed" are just being more vocal now because they know the tides have turned. They feel "okay" to jump down the throats of people who liked Riami's films, just like the Nolan fans did to the Burton fans.

[AbsractPo3tic]

Good movies are good movies regardless of when they're made. Die Hard is still one of the best action movies of all time, From Russia With Love is still one of the best Bond and spy movies of all time. Raimi's spidey movies had a some great scenes but the movies as whole pieces of work just didn't cut the mustard for me and now, many people are only starting to realize this.

I can't speak on everything you said cause I wasn't here but I do agree with the bolded, bro. A good movie is a good movie and although From Russia With Love was made in the 60s, I can still watch it today and know I'm watching a very good flick. I sat down with my girl and watched Die Hard and she got so into it she wanted to see the other two and they still stand up to this day.

[Oscorp]

I only started to realize how mediocre I found the Raimi films as I got older. I still love SM1 and 2 to death, but they really aren't anything spectacular. As a 8-12 year old boy who loved Spider-Man, sure, they were the ****ing balls. But now, as a 20 year old, avid filmgoer, I can't appreciate them the way that I used to. Maguire fell flat as Pete, Kirsten Dunst was a terrible Mary Jane besides for the first half of the first film, Doc Ock was way too sympathetic of a character, SM3 sucked as a whole, etc.

I can't predict the future, TASM might fall flat on its face, but I think I'm allowed to say that I like what I've seen and heard about this film already a lot more than I currently enjoy the Raimi films.

I agree with all you said there!

[Spider-ManHero12]

I find it quite sad that all because I said the trailer seemed underwhelming a little, everybody jumps down my throat. Oh well.

[Spiderman6592]

We jump down your throat because you were in full approval but now, just 3 months later, it was underwhelming. The very thing you jump all over people for in regards to Raimi's films. It's hypocritical dude. Stop trying to play victim when you do stuff like this allllllll the time.

[Spider-ManHero12]

We jump down your throat because you were in full approval but now, just 3 months later, it was underwhelming. The very thing you jump all over people for in regards to Raimi's films. It's hypocritical dude. Stop trying to play victim when you do stuff like this allllllll the time. And your not hypocriticla? LMFAO, you of all people? You're probably the most stubborn person I've talked to in the 55 years I've been here. I don't have to abide by YOUR rules just to make you happy, and I won't.

[UltimateWebhead]

:facepalm:


I've been over this. That is not a first person shot. You can't see any of the subject's body, nor does the camera move like a person. I've seen countless people try and argue this, but it's a complete farce. I love Raimi's final swings, but let's stop crediting for something he never did.

Wrong. If it's not a first person shot, then what is it? It's meant to be a swinging shot as if you are Spider-man and this is what you see. Sounds first person to me. It doesn't matter that you can't see Spider-mans hands or something...it is meant to be a first person view. The camera moves as close as they could get it to move 'like a person' but it's not perfect...they just used the camera rigging system they had at the time. You can't blame them for the gear they were using. It was the best for that time.

Sorry but this shot was MEANT to be a first person POV. Show it to someone and they will say "it's what Spidey would see when he's swinging." That's the definition of POV.

[Ajendo]

I only started to realize how mediocre I found the Raimi films as I got older. I still love SM1 and 2 to death, but they really aren't anything spectacular. As a 8-12 year old boy who loved Spider-Man, sure, they were the ****ing balls. But now, as a 20 year old, avid filmgoer, I can't appreciate them the way that I used to. Maguire fell flat as Pete, Kirsten Dunst was a terrible Mary Jane besides for the first half of the first film, Doc Ock was way too sympathetic of a character, SM3 sucked as a whole, etc.

I can't predict the future, TASM might fall flat on its face, but I think I'm allowed to say that I like what I've seen and heard about this film already a lot more than I currently enjoy the Raimi films.

I appreciate this.

See, as an 8-12 year old, you're just a dumb kid happy to see someone zip around in a costume and see some explosions. Great! But as a mature human being with a firmer grip on taste and understanding what you're watching, you become more aware and critical of what you're watching. However, as I mentioned in my other post, a good movie is a good movie regardless of when it was made and at the time the spidey movies were released, particularly the first one, it already felt prematurely dated and to me, was a mediocre adaptation of the source material. Like yourself, there are many people in the same boat who can see what's wrong with these movies through they eyes of a more mature mind who has a better understanding of what their supposed to be watching.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Alright, I'm done. I'll come back a little later today when things cool down.

[Spiderman6592]

How do you know that's what it's supposed to be? Did you do the cinematography for that 1.5 second shot?


And funny, that's never what I thought. It was a 1.5 second shot. The only reason people try to point it out as a POV shot is because TASM is utilizing POV and it's the only thing people have to cling onto and say, "HEY LOOK RAIMI DID IT TOO!"

No. He didn't.

[Troy_Parker]

I was like 13 when S-M 3 came out... I loved it.

Then I joined the Hype and my eyes were opened. :P

:funny:

[AbsractPo3tic]

We jump down your throat because you were in full approval but now, just 3 months later, it was underwhelming. The very thing you jump all over people for in regards to Raimi's films. It's hypocritical dude. Stop trying to play victim when you do stuff like this allllllll the time.

In defense of him, because he seems like a good dude and knows a lot about Spidey, and I'm definitely not trying to start anything cause internet beef seems ridiculous to me, but he's definitely entitled to his opinion, one way or another. He maned up, apologized for what people called him on and as men, I think we all know how hard that is to do lol, especially to other guys.

[Spiderman6592]

He is entitled to his opinion, but he should be expected to be bashed when he does the same thing from the other side. I like SMH12, he is a good dude, and loves the character, but that doesn't make this any less hypocritical.

[craigdbfan]

And your not hypocritical? LMFAO, you of all people? You're probably the most stubborn person I've talked to in the 5 years I've been here. I don't have to abide by YOUR rules just to make you happy, and I won't.

This. Glad you said it.

Did the same thing with me when I just said that I didn't find the CGI to be all that great in the last part of the teaser. I even mentioned how much I really liked the Parker scenes in the trailer. One little comment and he jumped at our necks.

Trey_Parker disagreed with me but responded civilly while this guy just resorts to personal attacks.

I like how he tries implying you're creating rules when you've done no such thing and a page earlier says how "no one should mention the Raimi series at all" to which I responded that it's only natural that the past franchise on the character to be brought up. He then goes on to call me a brute. :funny:

[Spider-ManHero12]

In defense of him, because he seems like a good dude and knows a lot about Spidey, and I'm definitely not trying to start anything cause internet beef seems ridiculous to me, but he's definitely entitled to his opinion, one way or another. He maned up, apologized for what people called him on and as men, I think we all know how hard that is to do lol, especially to other guys. I've apologized way too many times overall. Tbh, it goes through one ear and out the other.

[Spider-ManHero12]

And not to mention it happens more often when I apologize. It's unfortunate.

[UltimateWebhead]

How do you know that's what it's supposed to be? Did you do the cinematography for that 1.5 second shot?


And funny, that's never what I thought. It was a 1.5 second shot. The only reason people try to point it out as a POV shot is because TASM is utilizing POV and it's the only thing people have to cling onto and say, "HEY LOOK RAIMI DID IT TOO!"

No. He didn't.

It's a first person shot dude. No matter how YOU want to disguise it as not being one...sorry, but it's POV. I don't have to film something to be able to use reasoning and undertanding to know what it is.

It honestly doesn't matter if the shot was 1.5 secs, 0.2 secs, or two minutes long; a POV shot is a POV shot. Sorry but this is a silly argument.

I am not 'clinging' on to anything. I could care less about whether or not Raimi used POV before Webb or vice versa. It sounds like you are the one clinging to an argument for no reason and I don't understand why.

Again, I raise the question, if it wasn't a POV shot, what was it?

[Ajendo]

I can't speak on everything you said cause I wasn't here but I do agree with the bolded, bro. A good movie is a good movie and although From Russia With Love was made in the 60s, I can still watch it today and know I'm watching a very good flick. I sat down with my girl and watched Die Hard and she got so into it she wanted to see the other two and they still stand up to this day.

Precisely! A good movie is indeed a good movie. Both aforementioned films are more than 20 years old, hell FRWL is almost 50 years old but both are amazing cinematic products irrespective of the year they came out because the collaborative effort that went into making these films into something special, enjoyable and something that can be revisited at any time is something that not all movie makers have the ability to do and in this case and I'll speak for myself here, as whole movies, Raimi's spider-man movies are unwatchable.

[Spider-ManHero12]

This. Glad you said it.

Did the same thing with me when I just said that I didn't find the CGI to be all that great in the last part of the teaser. I even mentioned how much I really liked the Parker scenes in the trailer. One little comment and he jumped at our necks.

Trey_Parker disagreed with me but responded civilly while this guy just resorts to personal attacks.

I like how he tries implying you're creating rules when you've done no such thing and a page earlier says how "no one should mention the Raimi series at all" to which I responded that it's only natural that the past franchise on the character to be brought up. He then goes on to call me a brute. :funny: Agreed. People have to start loooking at themselves for once.

[Troy_Parker]

And your not hypocriticla? LMFAO, you of all people? You're probably the most stubborn person I've talked to in the 55 years I've been here. I don't have to abide by YOUR rules just to make you happy, and I won't.

And your not hypocriticla? LMFAO, you of all people? You're probably the most stubborn person I've talked to in the 55 years I've been here. I don't have to abide by YOUR rules just to make you happy, and I won't.

And your not hypocriticla? LMFAO, you of all people? You're probably the most stubborn person I've talked to in the 55 years I've been here. I don't have to abide by YOUR rules just to make you happy, and I won't.

And your not hypocriticla? LMFAO, you of all people? You're probably the most stubborn person I've talked to in the 55 years I've been here. I don't have to abide by YOUR rules just to make you happy, and I won't.

And your not hypocriticla? LMFAO, you of all people? You're probably the most stubborn person I've talked to in the 55 years I've been here. I don't have to abide by YOUR rules just to make you happy, and I won't.

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[Oscorp]

LMAO!!! Troy_Parker I must say that I love your posts sometimes xD

[UltimateWebhead]

:hehe:

Epic.

[Eggyman]

:lmao:

/meltdown

[ITheSymbioteI]

:facepalm:


I've been over this. That is not a first person shot. You can't see any of the subject's body, nor does the camera move like a person. I've seen countless people try and argue this, but it's a complete farce. I love Raimi's final swings, but let's stop crediting for something he never did.

Sorry, but you don't know much about shots if you think that is a case.

Trust me on this one: That IS a POV shot. Is it as experiential as ASMs POV? No.

But it is named a POV shot when you are filming/editing. Again, it was only for like a second, and is nothing like the POV shot for ASM. Honestly, comparing the two is just ****ing stupid. In SM1, it is just a quick cut to keep with the speed of swinging, and keep the shots refreshing. In ASM, the point is entirely different. First its not just a quick cut, and second its meant to make you feel like Spidey. Some people might think the SM1 shot makes you feel like Spidey too, but again, thats just a very short cut. No one really compares a medium shot to an entire scene that is shot at medium distance.

That said, once again, that shot IS POV.

Many times, we see a person looking at something and the cut to show what it is suggests that it is POV. I will repeat myself, the body is almost never shown in the shots. But it is still POV.

One is more detailed than the other, that is the difference. Like I said, comparing the two is just dumb imo. One is just a shot, the other is a feature. The essence of your argument is right, but you are arguing about the wrong thing.

[UltimateWebhead]

Sorry, but you don't know much about shots if you think that is a case.

Trust me on this one: That IS a POV shot. Is it as experiential as ASMs POV? No.

But it is named a POV shot when you are filming/editing. Again, it was only for like a second, and is nothing like the POV shot for ASM. Honestly, comparing the two is just ****ing stupid. In SM1, that shot is just to show the swooping speed, not to really make you feel like Spidey in ASM.

That said, once again, that shot IS POV.

Many times, we see a person looking at something and the cut to show what it is suggests that it is POV. I will repeat myself, the body is almost never shown in the shots. But it is still POV.

One is more detailed than the other, that is the difference. Like I said, comparing the two is just dumb imo. One is just a shot, the other is a feature. The essence of your argument is right, but you are arguing about the wrong thing.

:up:

[Spider-ManHero12]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/210/403/OhCrap.png?1322723607 Why did you edit my post, LOL?

[Oscorp]

He didn't edit anything other than expanding the 55 :confused:

[Spider-ManHero12]

I didn't say 55 though, lol. Well, I don't think I did. I said 5.

[Troy_Parker]

:hehe:

Epic.

LMAO!!! Troy_Parker I must say that I love your posts sometimes xD

:lmao:

/meltdown

:awesome:

Why did you edit my post, LOL?

I just made the "55" bigger... you actually said 55 years. lol

[Spider-ManHero12]

Oh. I meant 5 years.

[Troy_Parker]

I knew that. Just thought I'd lighten the mood. :P

Anyways, when do you guys think we'll be seeing those banners that RIM mentioned...?

[Eggyman]

I knew that. Just thought I'd lighten the mood. :P

Anyways, when do you guys think we'll be seeing those banners that RIM mentioned...?

Maybe midweek. Maybe later. Possibly.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Everybody is so quiet, lol.

[PSYLENTGuardian]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/210/403/OhCrap.png?1322723607

This has got to be the funniest post in all Superhero Hype history. :applaud

[Spider-ManHero12]

I knew that. Just thought I'd lighten the mood. :P

Anyways, when do you guys think we'll be seeing those banners that RIM mentioned...? I'd say by the middle of the month.

[PSYLENTGuardian]

The expo is in two days, right? We should hear some reports from Tuesday to Thursday and maybe we'll finally get what we want after that.

RIM will be there, right?

[Spiderman6592]

This. Glad you said it.

Did the same thing with me when I just said that I didn't find the CGI to be all that great in the last part of the teaser. I even mentioned how much I really liked the Parker scenes in the trailer. One little comment and he jumped at our necks.

Trey_Parker disagreed with me but responded civilly while this guy just resorts to personal attacks.

I like how he tries implying you're creating rules when you've done no such thing and a page earlier says how "no one should mention the Raimi series at all" to which I responded that it's only natural that the past franchise on the character to be brought up. He then goes on to call me a brute. :funny:


Just so you geniuses know, hypocritical=/=stubborn.

I already told you why I criticized your opinion on the CGI. You provided nothing to back it up. I never resorted to personal attacks once actually. I called you a brute because you try to sarcastically belittle me while failing the process. And I called you a brute for saying that the dropping of Raimi discussion would only solve the problem of KAW when in reality, it'd make this board a much better place. Talking about Raimi's films only ever causes arguments. This goes for both sides of the coin, those who negatively attack it and those who positively talk about it. However, it is hypocritical when people can go on and on about how the Raimi era was the "good old days" but as soon as someone disagrees its, "OMG YOU ARE SUCH A STUBBORN HYPOCRITE!" It is also hypocritical when SMH12 criticizes people for changing their opinion on the Raimi films when he goes around and does the same exact thing in regards to the TASM trailer. However, when we call him out on it its, "not the same".

There's a huge double ****ing standard going on that serves a huge disservice to anyone that has anything bad to say about the Raimi films, but for whatever reason when you criticize TASM, you're expected to get a free pass. For example, you mentioned how "even though" you noted how good the Parker scenes were, I jumped at you because you criticized the CGI. Isn't this similar to when people mention some good things about the Raimi trilogy while simultaneously mentioning some bad things such as hammy or bad acting, you guys jump all over us? Rhetorical question; it is.

I am not saying anyone should get a free pass, if you criticize something, you should expect to have someone disagree with you. The problem with you, craigbfan and you, SMH12, is that you expect you can openly criticize TASM with no consequence, but we are not allowed to openly criticize the Raimi films. That is hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is not calling you out for criticizing something with no foundation.

I don't make my own rules and expect to abide them, but oddly enough, it is people like you guys who do the very thing you're making fun of me for. Ridiculous. Speaking of taking a look at yourself....

[Spider-ManHero12]

I thought this was over. :doh:

[Spiderman6592]

Nope. I'm not going to take blind and ignorant shots lying down. Sorry.

[Spider-ManHero12]

And neither am I. But I don't want to argue anymore, so I'm done. Let's just get back on topic.

[Spider-ManHero12]

....So, what are people hoping to see in the new trailer?

[Spiderman6592]

Lizard, 3rd person Spidey action, Van Adder and what his deal is, Peter showing off his smarts. Those would all make me a happy boy.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I defenitely hope to see some Lizard stuff. Even if it's just a few quick shots.

[Spiderman6592]

I think we will. I really want to see some of the fight choreography from the school fight. I think that fight is going to be the train fight scene of TASM. We probably won't get that stuff until trailer 3 though.

[Nevincer]

I only started to realize how mediocre I found the Raimi films as I got older. I still love SM1 and 2 to death, but they really aren't anything spectacular. As a 8-12 year old boy who loved Spider-Man, sure, they were the ****ing balls. But now, as a 20 year old, avid filmgoer, I can't appreciate them the way that I used to. Maguire fell flat as Pete, Kirsten Dunst was a terrible Mary Jane besides for the first half of the first film, Doc Ock was way too sympathetic of a character, SM3 sucked as a whole, etc.

I can't predict the future, TASM might fall flat on its face, but I think I'm allowed to say that I like what I've seen and heard about this film already a lot more than I currently enjoy the Raimi films.
My experience was similar to yours, Spidey. I used to love the Raimi films, but when SM3 came out it was honestly an eye-opener for me. When everyone was ripping that film a new one, I recognized the big flaws and why I myself didn't enjoy it in the theater, but then I re-visited SM1 and 2 and realized that the main gripes I had about the third were present in those films as well to a lesser extent. The Raimi shtick that's riddled not only throughout the third film but over the other two brings the films down in my eyes; there are emotionally engaging moments and some intelligence to the scripts but for the most part I only see mediocrity in those films. I totally dig ASM and Webb's new approach over this. All I ask is for a Spider-Man film where I don't have to roll my eyes.

[craigdbfan]

....So, what are people hoping to see in the new trailer?

Spider-Man web slinging & Lizard vs Spidey.

[Spiderman6592]

I definitely want to see some of the practical web slinging on film. Really curious to see how that comes out.

[TheWiseGuy487]

RIM keeps on mentioning how awesomely acrobatic Spider-Man was in the footage that he saw. I really want to see some of that in the new trailer! :wow:

Also:

-Peter showing his smarts.

-A shot or two with him talking to Gwen Stacy.

-Some stuff with Uncle Ben and Aunt May. Maybe have that one part of that footage with Ben telling Gwen that she's on Peter's computer. :woot:

-A part with Dr. Curt Connors and/or his Lizard transformation.

[spideyguy16]

@spiderman6592
I DONT WANT TO START ANYTHING.
But...I recently watched Spider-Man and found a handful of POV sequences. And Yes, they were pretty short. :P

[PSYLENTGuardian]

As I've said before, I definitely want to see the lighter side of Spidey in this trailer.

[itsleroy]

RIM keeps on mentioning how awesomely acrobatic Spider-Man was in the footage that he saw. I really want to see some of that in the new trailer! :wow:

Also:

-Peter showing his smarts.

-A shot or two with him talking to Gwen Stacy.

-Some stuff with Uncle Ben and Aunt May. Maybe have that one part of that footage with Ben telling Gwen that she's on Peter's computer. :woot:

-A part with Dr. Curt Connors and/or his Lizard transformation.

Where? Can't find it on his twitter.

[Spiderman6592]

They aren't POV shots. The end. I'm dropping it here.


@leroy, it was a while ago, but he said that Spidey does things we have never seen before. He said it's similar to what we see in the video game trailer but to a more extreme extent.

[spideyguy16]

@PSY now after watching X-Men:First Class, I get your custom user title!
i know.. im a little late. lol

[VenomSpawn]

Why does every thread here suck today? None of us can agree on ****.

[Juicy J]

Haha most of the activity on these boards lately has been fighting fighting fighting....I've said this before and I'll say it again, I find it funny that internet message boards are a hub of conflict, when in fact if we met in real life I'd bet most of us would hit it off instantly because of our common interests.

[spideyguy16]

its Sunday.

[spideyguy16]

Haha most of the activity on these boards lately has been fighting fighting fighting....I find it funny that internet message boards are a hub of conflict, when in fact if we met in real life I'd bet most of us would hit it off instantly because of our common interests.
:funny: :up:
it actually is incredibly hard to find somebody who likes Spider-Man like I do.
if i talk to another geeky person, i always end up dominating the convo..

[VenomSpawn]

Haha most of the activity on these boards lately has been fighting fighting fighting....I've said this before and I'll say it again, I find it funny that internet message boards are a hub of conflict, when in fact if we met in real life I'd bet most of us would hit it off instantly because of our common interests.

No, I'm pretty sure we'd all kill each other because someone would say something stupid and it would start a huge bloody fight.

[Spiderman6592]

Haha most of the activity on these boards lately has been fighting fighting fighting....I've said this before and I'll say it again, I find it funny that internet message boards are a hub of conflict, when in fact if we met in real life I'd bet most of us would hit it off instantly because of our common interests.

At least we all care about the character and care about he is presented. It's just some of us disagree on how he should be presented at times. But yes, I agree, a lot of us would probably get along very well IRL.

[spideyguy16]

very well at first. then someone will say something we disagree with then it s gonna be all....

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luv5m60gHU1qkh06u.gif

[Pac-Master]

.......Creepy.....

[spideyguy16]

i typed in angry gifs on google images. :P

[itsleroy]

Guys, I just want to say that for the record, I have absolutely no friends who like Spider-Man the way I (and we) do.

And that really sucks. It does. That means I have to post on here in order to get my obsession out and talk with like-minded people.

So let's not fight. Because I really like everybody on this board, and I just want us all to get along.

So, thanks.

:awesome:

[Juicy J]

No, I'm pretty sure we'd all kill each other because someone would say something stupid and it would start a huge bloody fight.

"Hey man I'm Cody, nice to meet you"
"Yeah good meeting you to. Wait is that a spider-man shirt?"
"Yeah man, I love Spider-man"
"Me to!"
"Ah dude no way!"
"Yeah I've loved it since the first movie came out -"
"THE RAIMI FILMS SUCK WHAT ARE U STUPID LOL"
"**** YOU I HOPE U DIE"
Something along those lines probably....:woot:
:funny: :up:
it actually is incredibly hard to find somebody who likes Spider-Man like I do.
if i talk to another geeky person, i always end up dominating the convo..
Hahaha same here! I get so excited when that happens all my pent up nerdiness rushes out at once...say something to me along the lines of "I like marvel" and that's what we're going to be talking about for the next 10 minutes, guaranteed.

Guys, I just want to say that for the record, I have absolutely no friends who like Spider-Man the way I (and we) do.

And that really sucks. It does. That means I have to post on here in order to get my obsession out and talk with like-minded people.

So let's not fight. Because I really like everybody on this board, and I just want us all to get along.

So, thanks.

:awesome:
:up: This

[VenomSpawn]

"Hey man I'm Cody, nice to meet you"
"Yeah good meeting you to. Wait is that a spider-man shirt?"
"Yeah man, I love Spider-man"
"Me to!"
"Ah dude no way!"
"Yeah I've loved it since the first movie came out -"
"THE RAIMI FILMS SUCK WHAT ARE U STUPID LOL"
"**** YOU I HOPE U DIE"
Something along those lines probably....:woot:

And then we step out of frame, step back in, and everyone is now wearing samurai armor and have swords and start slashing at each other.

[spideyguy16]

@juicy J,itsleroy
:up: too true..

[itsleroy]

"Hey man I'm Cody, nice to meet you"
"Yeah good meeting you to. Wait is that a spider-man shirt?"
"Yeah man, I love Spider-man"
"Me to!"
"Ah dude no way!"
"Yeah I've loved it since the first movie came out -"
"THE RAIMI FILMS SUCK WHAT ARE U STUPID LOL"
"**** YOU I HOPE U DIE"
Something along those lines probably....:woot:


Hahaha.



Hahaha same here! I get so excited when that happens all my pent up nerdiness rushes out at once...say something to me along the lines of "I like marvel" and that's what we're going to be talking about for the next 10 minutes, guaranteed.


This happens to me as well. The nerdy word-vomit that is.

[spideyguy16]

im glad i eventually decided to join SHH because i would never have been able to vent out this nerdiness, lol

[Spider-Fan]

Alright, I just come in from a busy day of work, and I see several pages back another day of arguing/whining from you guys.

THIS HAS TO STOP!!!!

Seriously, all of you are like children lately. Stop getting down each others throats. It's a friggin movie people! If you can't handle a debate, THEN DON'T POST!!! I'm sick of reading page after page of both sides of this board doing nothing but insulting each other.

Therefore, expect me to be around. A LOT more. And I WON'T be gentle.

[White_Knight191]

im glad i eventually decided to join SHH because i would never have been able to vent out this nerdiness, lol
Me to man, there's only one real friend of mine who is interested in Marvel and comic book movies. But when we start a conversation I always get the upper hand, lol. :D

I'm glad I came here, finally I can talk to people who know as much as me about it and more.

[Spiderman6592]

Spider-Fan we did solve the problem a tiny bit. But we'll keep ourselves in check. Thanks.

[Spider-Fan]

Spider-Fan we did solve the problem a tiny bit. But we'll keep ourselves in check. Thanks.

You guys solved it, for now. But, this is a constant problem in this forum, and has been for over a year. Hence why I am paying more attention to it.

[Spiderman6592]

Fair enough. Thanks.

[spideyguy16]

Me to man, there's only one real friend of mine who is interested in Marvel and comic book movies. But when we start a conversation I always get the upper hand, lol. :D

I'm glad I came here, finally I can talk to people who know as much as me about it and more.
I only have one friend into comics as well but I never get a chance to talk to him

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

I have a friend who hasn't read the comics, but we watched the movies and TSSM together, and she enjoyed them.

[VenomSpawn]

I guess I'm pretty lucky then, all of my friends are huge superhero geeks.

[Pac-Master]

I had two main friends who were both looking forward to the superhero movies next year...but now they're both out of the school, and I'm the only one who has genuine excitement for anything next year. It really sucks.

[SnuffTheRooster]

Arggggh spider man. Srs business

[CashforStash]

Lol, it's pretty bad that most of us mid teens-adults, and we have a mod telling us we are bad.

Pretty pathetic on our part. It's just a movie, no need for arguments or harassment.

[spida-man]

no offense but about damn time things started settiling down here...waaaaaaay to many ppl going at each other's throats

[Mace Bloodstone]

This is how I picture everyone here if we were all in the same room together
after watching the new trailer...


http://i43.tinypic.com/hty35y.gif

[Juicy J]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
TRUTH :woot:

[Spiderman6592]

I'm so ****ing stoked for the new trailer. I literally cannot wait.

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