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Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 03:29 PM
This is the official thread for the next Amazing Spider-Man trailer debuting next month! Aaaand here...we....go.

DirtyHarry
11-15-2011, 03:32 PM
Wait... What? Link please?

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 03:33 PM
Check the news thread. :cool:

Troy_Parker
11-15-2011, 03:39 PM
FUUUUUUUU*K YES.


:D

xD

Troy_Parker
11-15-2011, 03:40 PM
Hey RIM, is the new footage you saw, what's going to be in the new trailer?

DirtyHarry
11-15-2011, 03:43 PM
Ohhh... Just saw it... YES!!! Any idea of what day it will be released or what movie?

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 03:43 PM
I'm thinking Tintin.

RealIrOnMaN
11-15-2011, 03:48 PM
Hey RIM, is the new footage you saw, what's going to be in the new trailer?
I'm not sure about this man, since the VFX reel provided one nice piece of footage when Spidey was doing all kinds of tricks and stuff. But, you never know. Once we will see the trailer, I'll tell you whether it was included or not.

DirtyHarry
11-15-2011, 03:50 PM
Well, I guess I'll be watching Tintin

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 03:52 PM
We don't know that for sure, it's just a guess.

RealIrOnMaN
11-15-2011, 03:55 PM
We don't know that for sure, it's just a guess.
Don't forget about Fincher's Girl With A Dragon Tattoo.

spider-neil
11-15-2011, 03:56 PM
I hope the trailer is with ghost protocol, I get to kill two birds with one stone.

also I'm hoping you get a glimps of the lizard (the eyes, the teeth, the tail) not a full reveal, I want to be surprised during the movie.

DirtyHarry
11-15-2011, 03:56 PM
Yeah well I get in to movies for free at my theatre so I'll watch both

VenomSpawn
11-15-2011, 03:58 PM
Well. I'm glad that we'll finally have some good Spidey related **** for once.

spider-neil
11-15-2011, 04:00 PM
dec trailer and then 6 months to the movie. awesome.

NinjaCarm
11-15-2011, 04:02 PM
Lemme ask hypsters, what do you want to see come through in this trailer the most?

Me ... I just want it to shut up all the haters and "where's Tobey?" whiners.

Can't wait. Please don't disappoint Sony and Webb.

VenomSpawn
11-15-2011, 04:07 PM
Lemme ask hypsters, what do you want to see come through in this trailer the most?

Me ... I just want it to shut up all the haters and "where's Tobey?" whiners.

Can't wait. Please don't disappoint Sony and Webb.

I want to see teh funny and teh Spidey.

....And teh Lizard.

Gwendolyn Stacy
11-15-2011, 04:08 PM
We're getting a new trailer?
http://www.bitstorm.org/happyjoy/ren-n-stimpy.gif

Spider-ManHero12
11-15-2011, 04:26 PM
I had a feeling we'd be getting a new trailer soon!

Juicy J
11-15-2011, 04:29 PM
New trailer...?
NEW....TRAILER....??!?!?
HECK YES
New Avengers posters tomorrow and then this? This officially just became the best day ever. Until tomorrow, that is.

Spideyfan93
11-15-2011, 04:30 PM
YES!


It's FINALLY CUMMING!



oh I MEAN COMING!

VenomSpawn
11-15-2011, 04:33 PM
YES!


It's FINALLY CUMMING!



oh I MEAN COMING!

:hehe:

Spider-ManHero12
11-15-2011, 04:34 PM
YES!


It's FINALLY CUMMING!



oh I MEAN COMING! Lol

Goran
11-15-2011, 04:37 PM
I really can't wait for new footage!! :)
sooo darn happy that a new trailer is coming in a few weeks!! yay!! :)

DirtyHarry
11-15-2011, 04:38 PM
Lemme ask hypsters, what do you want to see come through in this trailer the most?

Me ... I just want it to shut up all the haters and "where's Tobey?" whiners.

Can't wait. Please don't disappoint Sony and Webb.

Same here, also I want to see some action/web-slinging and Spidey cracking jokes

Juicy J
11-15-2011, 04:42 PM
More first person shots, some slick web swinging and acrobatic whatnots, some quick spidey one liners, and a mind-blowingly awesome reveal of the Lizard.
THAT is what I want from this trailer.
The last one was very character/story driven, which was perfect but it didn't sell EVERYone on it.
This one needs to shut the haters up, which I'm more than confident they can do.

vanawesome
11-15-2011, 05:03 PM
RIM, a friend of mine works for Sony Imageworks and says that there isn't any Lizard footage in the upcoming trailer. Is there any truth to that?

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 05:10 PM
RIM, a friend of mine works for Sony Imageworks and says that there isn't any Lizard footage in the upcoming trailer. Is there any truth to that?
Interesting. Are you sure that your friend was talking about the NEW trailer?

spider-neil
11-15-2011, 05:15 PM
RIM, a friend of mine works for Sony Imageworks and says that there isn't any Lizard footage in the upcoming trailer. Is there any truth to that?


imho that's a good thing.

Spider-ManHero12
11-15-2011, 05:16 PM
If I remember correctly, we didn't get our first full footage of Venom until the 3rd S-M3 trailer. Maybe that's what will happen here?

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 05:18 PM
The thing is though, Venom was a secondary villain. Lizard is the only villain.

Juicy J
11-15-2011, 05:23 PM
Yeah something tells me that they're not gonna keep the the main villain shrouded in secrecy for much longer. However I won't be surprised if there isn't any lizard, I can completely see that happening.

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 05:26 PM
To be honest, I can't see it happening. People are still asking who the villain is. I think they'll put in the Lizard.

Spider-ManHero12
11-15-2011, 05:32 PM
The thing is though, Venom was a secondary villain. Lizard is the only villain. True. Earlier in the year, I figured they'd reveal Lizard via a poster at the SDCC just like they did with that badass Doc Ock poster in 2003. I'm just very curious as to when we will see the Lizard.

Troy_Parker
11-15-2011, 05:35 PM
I don't really think they can afford to miss out on revealing the villain this time.

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 05:36 PM
Agreed.

Juicy J
11-15-2011, 05:36 PM
True. Earlier in the year, I figured they'd reveal Lizard via a poster at the SDCC just like they did with that badass Doc Ock poster in 2003. I'm just very curious as to when we will see the Lizard.

Out of curiosity, what was this first poster? This one?
http://www.123posters.com/images/movie/f-spiderman8.jpg
EDIT: I see CBM.com is blocked here haha, didn't know that..

spider-neil
11-15-2011, 05:37 PM
To be honest, I can't see it happening. People are still asking who the villain is. I think they'll put in the Lizard.


MrDsvVKY_d4


bEVY_lonKf4


two trailers, both trailers showing the mearest hint of the creature. I hope sony do this and save the big reveal for the movie. I'm happy enough to just see spidey doing spidey stuff.

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 05:42 PM
Those weren't reboots with mixed public reactions.

spider-neil
11-15-2011, 05:50 PM
Those weren't reboots with mixed public reactions.


true, but the general audience have to be sold on the idea of a new spidey, the villian is almost irrelavent.

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 05:52 PM
It isn't irrelevant. Most people think that this is a remake. They have to be proved wrong.

Godzilla2014
11-15-2011, 05:53 PM
true, but the general audience have to be sold on the idea of a new spidey, the villian is almost irrelavent.

Let's face it, the new villain is the most important thing in this movie that wasn't in Spider-Man that the general audience actually cares about.

spideyguy16
11-15-2011, 06:10 PM
Holy F***. This has to be the second holiest F*** I've ever been through.

New trailer!! :awesome:
(Dances horribly)

PSYLENTGuardian
11-15-2011, 06:12 PM
It isn't irrelevant. Most people think that this is a remake. They have to be proved wrong.

This.

I don't get why people are calling this a remake. There's a difference between a remake and a reboot.

Godzilla2014
11-15-2011, 06:15 PM
This.

I don't get why people are calling this a remake. There's a difference between a remake and a reboot.

Because we've seen Spider-Man's origin before.

UltimateWebhead
11-15-2011, 06:24 PM
dec trailer and then 6 months to the movie. awesome.

It's gonna fly by. I can't wait until we're all in here boasting about having just seen the movie.

UltimateWebhead
11-15-2011, 06:25 PM
So what movie should we be expecting this to be attached to?

Tintin.
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

Although I'd expect to see the trailer attached to a 3D movie.

Gwendolyn Stacy
11-15-2011, 07:45 PM
It's gonna fly by. I can't wait until we're all in here boasting about having just seen the movie.
You mean you haven't seen the first movie yet? :wow: It was awesome! Who would've figured that Gwen would save Spider-Man from the Joker? Or that Mary Jane was really Catwoman? We're all talking about when the trailer for the third movie is coming out.

Spider-ManHero12
11-15-2011, 07:45 PM
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Spider-ManHero12
11-15-2011, 07:46 PM
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wobbly
11-15-2011, 07:54 PM
This.

I don't get why people are calling this a remake. There's a difference between a remake and a reboot.

Not much though. To be honest I think the most significant difference is that 'reboot' makes the project sound slightly less unoriginal than 'remake' does.

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 08:05 PM
I think there's a huge difference between reboot and remake. Take Batman Begins and compare it to Batman. Or The Incredible Hulk and compare it to Hulk. There's almost nothing in common.

socool
11-15-2011, 08:10 PM
I'm so glad we finally have some sort of date for the trailer. It's been kinda boring here...

spideyguy16
11-15-2011, 08:10 PM
@Pac valid point :up:

wobbly
11-15-2011, 08:17 PM
I think there's a huge difference between reboot and remake. Take Batman Begins and compare it to Batman. Or The Incredible Hulk and compare it to Hulk. There's almost nothing in common.

Not true....
Batman 89: Bruce Wayne, parents murdered, wears armored Batsuit, has a cave under his Manor, drives a pimped out armoured car, butler named Alfred.

Batman Begins: Bruce Wayne, parents murdered, wears armored Batsuit, has a cave under his manor, drives a pimped out armoured car, butler named Alfred.

Hulk: Bruce Banner, girlfriend named Betty, gets zapped by Gamma Rays in lab, becomes big green dude when angry, chased about by General Ross.

The Incredible Hulk: Bruce Banner, girlfriend named Betty, gets zapped by Gamma Rays in lab, becomes big green dude when angry, chased about by General Ross.

The approach, tone, and direction can change significantly, but the bones of the beast remain the same.

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 08:18 PM
I'm so glad we finally have some sort of date for the trailer. It's been very boring here...
Fixed.

spideyguy16
11-15-2011, 08:19 PM
and even then its undermined :dry:

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 08:20 PM
Not true....
Batman 89: Bruce Wayne, parents murdered, wears armored Batsuit, has a cave under his Manor, drives a pimped out armoured car, butler named Alfred.

Batman Begins: Bruce Wayne, parents murdered, wears armored Batsuit, has a cave under his manor, drives a pimped out armoured car, butler named Alfred.

Hulk: Bruce Banner, girlfriend named Betty, gets zapped by Gamma Rays in lab, becomes big green dude when angry, chased about by General Ross.

The Incredible Hulk: Bruce Banner, girlfriend named Betty, gets zapped by Gamma Rays in lab, becomes big green dude when angry, chased about by General Ross.

The approach, tone, and direction can change significantly, but the bones of the beast remain the same.Of course, because those are the things that remain constant when told in almost every incarnation. The films themselves when compared together though, story wise, tone wise, etc. are very different. Remakes follow the guidelines of the films that came before it, while reboots go off and do their own thing.

Godzilla2014
11-15-2011, 08:21 PM
I think there's a huge difference between reboot and remake. Take Batman Begins and compare it to Batman. Or The Incredible Hulk and compare it to Hulk. There's almost nothing in common.

Agreed.

Not true....
Batman 89: Bruce Wayne, parents murdered, wears armored Batsuit, has a cave under his Manor, drives a pimped out armoured car, butler named Alfred.

Batman Begins: Bruce Wayne, parents murdered, wears armored Batsuit, has a cave under his manor, drives a pimped out armoured car, butler named Alfred.

Hulk: Bruce Banner, girlfriend named Betty, gets zapped by Gamma Rays in lab, becomes big green dude when angry, chased about by General Ross.

The Incredible Hulk: Bruce Banner, girlfriend named Betty, gets zapped by Gamma Rays in lab, becomes big green dude when angry, chased about by General Ross.

The approach, tone, and direction can change significantly, but the bones of the beast remain the same.

Those similarities are the result of common source material, not the reboot copying the previous one.

Godzilla2014
11-15-2011, 08:21 PM
Of course, because those are the things that remain constant when told in almost every incarnation. The films themselves when compared together though, story wise, tone wise, etc. are very different. Remakes follow the guidelines of the films that came before it, while reboots go off and do their own thing.

Exactly.

wobbly
11-15-2011, 08:29 PM
Of course, because those are the things that remain constant when told in almost every incarnation. The films themselves when compared together though, story wise, tone wise, etc. are very different. Remakes follow the guidelines of the films that came before it, while reboots go off and do their own thing.

Thing is there's no hard rule to distinguish a remake from a reboot, other than the obvious intention to launch a series of films, rather than doing just the one. ie: John Carpenter's 'The Thing' was a remake, and was very different from the original, whereas Abrams Star Trek is a reboot, but follows the original series guidelines closely.

That's why I don't see a lot of difference in the terms.

wobbly
11-15-2011, 08:33 PM
Those similarities are the result of common source material, not the reboot copying the previous one.

Armored batsuit is not from the source material, nor is Bruce Banner getting zapped by rays in a lab.

SnuffTheRooster
11-15-2011, 08:36 PM
Stop ****ing arguing about what you interpret a reboot to be when there's god damn news finally. Jesus

VenomSpawn
11-15-2011, 08:38 PM
Stop ****ing arguing about what you interpret a reboot to be when there's god damn news finally. Jesus

Agreed. For **** sake people, we're getting a NEW TRAILER. CAN'T YOU BE EXCITED WITHOUT ARGUING!?

spideyguy16
11-15-2011, 08:39 PM
triple agreed ? :oldrazz:

wobbly
11-15-2011, 08:40 PM
Lol :yay:
You call this 'arguing'?

Thought this was a polite discussion while we wait for the trailer to arrive.

Curmudgeon
11-15-2011, 08:42 PM
Thing is there's no hard rule to distinguish a remake from a reboot, other than the obvious intention to launch a series of films, rather than doing just the one. ie: John Carpenter's 'The Thing' was a remake, and was very different from the original, whereas Abrams Star Trek is a reboot, but follows the original series guidelines closely.

That's why I don't see a lot of difference in the terms.

I thought John Carpenter's 'The Thing' was a prequel.

I see the difference between a reboot and a remake like this. A remake tells the same story, but with some updates. A reboot tells a different story and it's only similarities to the original are necessary elements that are canon in every incarnation.

spideyguy16
11-15-2011, 08:43 PM
then "argue" on! :D

Pac-Master
11-15-2011, 08:55 PM
Stop ****ing arguing about what you interpret a reboot to be when there's god damn news finally. Jesus

Agreed. For **** sake people, we're getting a NEW TRAILER. CAN'T YOU BE EXCITED WITHOUT ARGUING!?
What? That was the farthest thing from arguing.
Lol :yay:
You call this 'arguing'?

Thought this was a polite discussion while we wait for the trailer to arrive.Yep.

spideyguy16
11-15-2011, 08:57 PM
:highfive:

wobbly
11-15-2011, 09:00 PM
I thought John Carpenter's 'The Thing' was a prequel.

Nope. There's a new one out that is a prequel to Carpenter's, but his 80's effort was a remake of an old 50's B movie.


I see the difference between a reboot and a remake like this. A remake tells the same story, but with some updates. A reboot tells a different story and it's only similarities to the original are necessary elements that are canon in every incarnation.That's a good enough general way to separate them, but as my examples showed, it's not really a hard rule (a remake can be very different, and a reboot can be very similar).

With Superhero movies the first one in the new series is where the most similarities will inevitably come (if they stick to the comics origin story that is).

Spectacular23
11-15-2011, 09:30 PM
Just Got the news on the new Spider-man trailer. Can't wait :awesome:

Gunga Diner
11-15-2011, 10:00 PM
Not true....
Batman 89: Bruce Wayne, parents murdered, wears armored Batsuit, has a cave under his Manor, drives a pimped out armoured car, butler named Alfred.

Batman Begins: Bruce Wayne, parents murdered, wears armored Batsuit, has a cave under his manor, drives a pimped out armoured car, butler named Alfred.

Hulk: Bruce Banner, girlfriend named Betty, gets zapped by Gamma Rays in lab, becomes big green dude when angry, chased about by General Ross.

The Incredible Hulk: Bruce Banner, girlfriend named Betty, gets zapped by Gamma Rays in lab, becomes big green dude when angry, chased about by General Ross.

The approach, tone, and direction can change significantly, but the bones of the beast remain the same.

Here's the difference. Those movies had completely different stories. Batman 89 was about a mysterious vigilante called Batman who has to battle a sadistic clown called the Joker. Batman Begins is the story of how an emotionally frayed billionaire trained himself to stop crime in the city his parents helped build. From a plot standpoint, they're very different. Same goes for Hulk. In both cases, one of them is an origin story and the other isn't.

The reason a lot of people are calling this a remake is because these are both origin stories. They tell the same general story. Let me ask you this; would you consider the Ultimate Spider-Man comics a remake of the 60's comics? What would the comic book equivalent of a "remake" be?

PSYLENTGuardian
11-15-2011, 10:06 PM
Agreed. For **** sake people, we're getting a NEW TRAILER. CAN'T YOU BE EXCITED WITHOUT ARGUING!?

The one downside to a new trailer... is that it might give more things for people to argue over.

There's always going to be that one persistent person. But hopefully the new trailer will shut a lot of people up, too.

spideyguy16
11-15-2011, 10:21 PM
Aw man, forgot about the whole "new things to b*tch about" rule everytime there's a new trailer.

VenomSpawn
11-15-2011, 10:24 PM
I'll probably have nothing to ***** about with the new trailer.

Unless they don't show the Lizard. Then I'll be one pissed off son-of-a-*****.

spideyguy16
11-15-2011, 10:28 PM
Ill love it no matter what.
My eyes will be glued to the screen with my jaw dropped. Just because of the fact that its footage I've never seen:)

Spiderman6592
11-15-2011, 10:50 PM
I'll be very surprised if the Lizard isn't in this trailer, but I probably won't be disappointed. Only way I'll be disappointed is if we don't see some real Spidey action. I mean, I think it's way overlooked here that we have never even really seen Spidey fight or swing...just let that sink in for a second.

Mary Jane Watson
11-15-2011, 10:51 PM
Trailer?!?!? omgomgomg

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff411/lemonlyellow/startrek_nerdgasms.gif

PSYLENTGuardian
11-15-2011, 10:57 PM
I'll be very surprised if the Lizard isn't in this trailer, but I probably won't be disappointed. Only way I'll be disappointed is if we don't see some real Spidey action. I mean, I think it's way overlooked here that we have never even really seen Spidey fight or swing...just let that sink in for a second.

Or quip.

Anyone want to try their hand at scripting out a trailer? :awesome:

spideyguy16
11-15-2011, 10:58 PM
Too lazy, but I would if it want a school night. .-.
I'd love to hear feedback

Spiderman6592
11-15-2011, 10:59 PM
I'll do it. Be back in 10-15.

VenomSpawn
11-15-2011, 10:59 PM
I'll be really disappointed if we don't see the Lizard in the trailer. We haven't even seen a glimpse of him yet other than blurry digital camera photos and the movie comes out in 7 months. :argh:

Juicy J
11-15-2011, 11:03 PM
Ill love it no matter what.
My eyes will be glued to the screen with my jaw dropped. Just because of the fact that its footage I've never seen:)

Well said, well said. Regardless of what's in it I think its safe to say most of us are gonna love it haha.

Mary Jane Watson
11-15-2011, 11:15 PM
I'll be really disappointed if we don't see the Lizard in the trailer. We haven't even seen a glimpse of him yet other than blurry digital camera photos and the movie comes out in 7 months. :argh:

7 months? Whoa time flies so fast.

Ya, I mean...come on, bat-fans already saw their villains and the footage is coming. Super-fans already saw their villains ( I think so lol, don't really follow their news anyway). We, spidey-fan, got....what?? the costume picture, lame-tease poster( even I like it but nothing that revealing anything) , and tease trailer ( no lizard, spidey action, quips, confusing, etc).

Too many GA and haters are hating this movie, thinking this movie is remake, and " Where is Tobey and He is Spidey/ Andrew isnt" crap, so on. This is has to be stop...like asap.

I am soo happy that the trailer is coming pretty damn soon!! just had a nerdgasm a while ago. :D

Spiderman6592
11-15-2011, 11:21 PM
*Fade into a laboratory with Dr. Connors featured. Quick cuts of him experimenting with different serums and tests with overlaying dialogue play*

Dr Connors: I've dedicated my life to this and finally the moment has come.

*Fade into a shot that is seemingly coming from a video camera*

Dr. Connors: Now I must ask myself. Are you ready to play God?

*Abrupt cuts to a transformation sequence without anything truly significant showing*
*Columbia Pictures*
*Fade into a scene featuring Uncle Ben and Peter in a school hallway*

Uncle Ben: Did it make you feel good beating that boy up? Do you feel like he deserved it?

*Quick cuts to Flash beating up Peter but finishing with Peter slamming Flash up against a locker*

Peter: Yes.

Uncle Ben: I've seen you grow up very quickly these past few weeks Peter but no matter how strong or how tough you become, you must always remember that with those things must also come responsibility.

*Quick cuts of Spidey beating up thugs and using his powers for good*
*Transition from the playful scenes of Spidey disposing of petty thugs into Captain Stacy announcing the warrant for Spider-Man's arrest*

Captain Stacy: From this day forward, the vigilante known as Spider-Man should be considered a threat to our community. Anyone with any information on his identity and/or whereabouts should contact the New York Police Department immediately.

*Cut to the Stacy household featuring Gwen and Captain Stacy in an argument*

Gwen: Dad he's doing what's right for this City. He's doing what you can't!
Captain Stacy: I do what I do with the reinforcement of my badge, he's hiding behind a mask. If he thinks what he's doing is right, why does he feel the need to hide?

*Cut to Midtown High featuring Gwen and Peter*

Gwen: I can't believe my dad is trying to arrest someone that's making his life easier.

*Gwen's dialogue fades out as a push pull effect kicks in with the camera focusing on Peter's face. Slow mo kicks in as we realize the Spider sense is going off. Gwen's dialogue fades back in.*

Gwen: Peter, what's going on?
Peter: Run.

*The Lizard busts through the wall behind Peter and we see quick cuts of Peter fighting the Lizard, again with nothing too revealing. Here we see a big montage of swinging, fighting, parkour'ing (?) and just a whole lot of Spidey goodness. During this we'll also see the "From Columbia Pictures" title screens, etc.*
*Suddenly we see Spidey lowering himself into a sewer via webline*

Peter: C'mon doc, where are you?

*We hear the Lizard roar as Spidey drops from his webline and turns around as the Lizard lunges at him*
*The Amazing Spider-Man title screen*

The End.

Juicy J
11-15-2011, 11:24 PM
7 months? Whoa time flies so fast.

Ya, I mean...come on, bat-fans already saw their villains and the footage is coming. Super-fans already saw their villains ( I think so lol, don't really follow their news anyway). We, spidey-fan, got....what?? the costume picture, lame-tease poster( even I like it but nothing that revealing anything) , and tease trailer ( no lizard, spidey action, quips, confusing, etc).

Too many GA and haters are hating this movie, thinking this movie is remake, and " Where is Tobey and He is Spidey/ Andrew isnt" crap, so on. This is has to be stop...like asap.

I am soo happy that the trailer is coming pretty damn soon!! just had a nerdgasm a while ago. :D

Superman fans have yet to see Zod in all his glory, I'm pretty sure ;)
Yeah, I want this next trailer to convince my stupid friends that this movie isn't gonna suck. Literally every time upcoming movies are mentioned they make a point to say that this movie looks like garbage and that they won't see it. I've also heard that from random people that have asked me about it, because I've fully come out of the closet with my geekdom so every now and then I'll get into a conversation with someone about comic book movies.
EDIT: And well done Spider-fan6592, that would be one heck of a trailer! Ending it with the lizard reveal is prime, I say.

Mary Jane Watson
11-15-2011, 11:26 PM
Amazing.

But I have one small problem,f rom what I have read: Dr.Connor seems like just a bad guy. It needs to show that he is a good guy who tries to do something good things. U kno?

Spiderman6592
11-15-2011, 11:29 PM
I think this trailer needs to present him as a villain, the third trailer can present more of that dynamic with him being shown as a teacher and mentor. People are asking who the bad guy is, it's time to show them.

Mary Jane Watson
11-15-2011, 11:38 PM
Superman fans have yet to see Zod in all his glory, I'm pretty sure ;)
Yeah, I want this next trailer to convince my stupid friends that this movie isn't gonna suck. Literally every time upcoming movies are mentioned they make a point to say that this movie looks like garbage and that they won't see it. I've also heard that from random people that have asked me about it, because I've fully come out of the closet with my geekdom so every now and then I'll get into a conversation with someone about comic book movies.

Ya, same here AND those retarded youtube commenters, argh.

All I want to say after this trailer released : I told you so. :woot:

http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=966804&t=o (http://gifsoup.com/view/966804/told-you-so.html) GIFSoup (http://gifsoup.com/)

EDIT: And well done Spider-fan6592, that would be one heck of a trailer! Ending it with the lizard reveal is prime, I say.

If this will happen,well, I guess that I need to bring my extra pant with me. :funny:

Spiderman6592
11-15-2011, 11:40 PM
Thanks ya'll! I'm glad you enjoy it.


Disclaimer: I say ya'll as a joke.

Mary Jane Watson
11-15-2011, 11:42 PM
I think this trailer needs to present him as a villain, the third trailer can present more of that dynamic with him being shown as a teacher and mentor. People are asking who the bad guy is, it's time to show them.

Mhm, good point but......how about both? good and bad?

Spiderman6592
11-15-2011, 11:46 PM
That could work. But I think the part at the beginning of my fan trailer script thing could shed him in a good light. Maybe emphasize that he's trying to rid himself and the world of physical deformation.

VenomSpawn
11-15-2011, 11:48 PM
Dammit.

Reading your trailer outline makes me disappointed that the actual trailer probably won't be as good as that. :csad:

Spiderman6592
11-15-2011, 11:53 PM
hahaha Thanks I think!

Curmudgeon
11-16-2011, 01:12 AM
Nope. There's a new one out that is a prequel to Carpenter's, but his 80's effort was a remake of an old 50's B movie.

That's a good enough general way to separate them, but as my examples showed, it's not really a hard rule (a remake can be very different, and a reboot can be very similar).

With Superhero movies the first one in the new series is where the most similarities will inevitably come (if they stick to the comics origin story that is).

I looked into it and John Carpenter's film is based on the same short story as the 50's movie, but apparently more accurate than the old film. So it's kind of like every time a Shakespearian play is made into a movie. Every movie is based on the play and not another movie. So I wouldn't call it a remake.

Anyway, you're right that there isn't one definition that fits every case. my view on it is really more a rule of thumb.

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 03:31 AM
Trailer?!?!? omgomgomg

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff411/lemonlyellow/startrek_nerdgasms.gif

I don't even want to know what the guy in red other hand is doing...

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 03:41 AM
Personally speaking I'd like go see Spidey taking a beating but only hints of what's doing it. Lizard more than any other Spidey villian needs a slow reveal. You'd hate the trailer makers but would almost certainly enjoy the movie more because you get your surprises from the movie.

An example; I skipped all of x:FC trailers so had no idea the bad guy was a mutant and in the contexts of the movie the reveal definately increased my enjoyment of the movie.
So by all means show the lizard but only hints, show Spidey taking a beating but only hint at what's doing the damage.

wobbly
11-16-2011, 06:03 AM
The reason a lot of people are calling this a remake is because these are both origin stories. They tell the same general story. Let me ask you this; would you consider the Ultimate Spider-Man comics a remake of the 60's comics? What would the comic book equivalent of a "remake" be?

If the 616 universe had been stopped for the Ultimate one to take over, I would have definitely called all things Ultimate a 'remake'. But as 616 has (thankfully) remained throughout, the Ultimate world has always been an alternate universe. So it's neither a remake or a reboot.

The DC 'reboots' are a lot closer to fitting the description but they are still not entirely apt as they have tried to be selective in what's been re-done and what has stayed the same (least that was the case after the first crisis, not too sure with the latest one as I haven't read any of it)

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 06:34 AM
the general audience will definately see this movie as a remake.

* it's spidey
* they are telling his origin again (seen in the trailer)

basically sony has to convince joe bloggs on the street to part with $12 despite having seen the 'concept' of spidey's origin a mere 10 years ago.

we're all spidey fans here so we are too close to spidey to judge objectively, let me put it this way if warner brothers decided to redo the matrix (matrix 1 was 10 years ago) and showed you a trailer that had similar plot beats;

*guy in dead end job
* told his world is a lie
*shown the matrix to be a computer simulation

would you be excited for movie? be honest with yourself.
there are things to take into concideration;

* spidey is a worldwide icon and thus many people will watch spidey regardless
* SM1 is ten years old so there is a whole generation of kids that haven't seen spidey on the big screen because they were too young to catch the first trilogy on the big screen.

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 07:47 AM
lol Dude you can't compare the Matrix to Spider-Man. The Matrix was an original story, it was a one shot deal. Spider-Man alone has 5 or 6 interpretations of his origin alone. Comparing him to the Matrix is ridiculous.

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 08:21 AM
lol Dude you can't compare the Matrix to Spider-Man. The Matrix was an original story, it was a one shot deal. Spider-Man alone has 5 or 6 interpretations of his origin alone. Comparing him to the Matrix is ridiculous.

I'm trying to think of a franchise that is 10 years old i.e. came out in 2000 and was rebooted, would you be excited for the project. it's easy to say 'it's spidey' but superman is argubly a bigger icon and only made 400m worldwide. why is this, were people bored by the a concept they essentially saw in donner's superman (which was TWENTY years prior never mind 10) or did the movie relatively bomb because it was just a really really boring movie?

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 08:57 AM
I don't think Superman is a bigger icon at all. The only reason Superman was made into a film before Spider-Man was is because flying is a much easier effect to believably fabricate than climbing walls and swinging from webs. Spider-Man is way more popular than Superman.

You don't need to look any further than Batman. Batman Begins was made 8 years after Batman and Robin and 16 years after the original Batman and it is way more popular then it was then and Spider-Man is way more popular than Batman is as a character. I'm not saying TASM will break any BO records next summer but if it's good, then it definitely will in 2014.

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 09:31 AM
I don't think Superman is a bigger icon at all. The only reason Superman was made into a film before Spider-Man was is because flying is a much easier effect to believably fabricate than climbing walls and swinging from webs. Spider-Man is way more popular than Superman.

You don't need to look any further than Batman. Batman Begins was made 8 years after Batman and Robin and 16 years after the original Batman and it is way more popular then it was then and Spider-Man is way more popular than Batman is as a character. I'm not saying TASM will break any BO records next summer but if it's good, then it definitely will in 2014.

if you were to walk down the street, any street I bet you come pass more people wearing superman t-shirts than spider-man shirts.

again, batman begins
batman rebooted maybe 15 years after the burton batman and the movie made 400m world wide. admitedly a BIG part of that was the utter stink left by batman and robin but I in general I think the GA (not fans, the general audience) are less excited by a movies that are essentially retelling of something they have already seen.

personally I think spidey will do good numbers and if the movie is great THEN the sequel will make a bucketload

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 09:48 AM
Superman shirts are more than Superman shirts. A lot of douchebags buy Superman shirts because "lol I'm invincible". The S is more of a status symbol than it is a display of fanaticism.

If you were to ask people who they liked more between Spider-Man and Superman, I'd guarantee you'd get more votes for Spider-Man

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 09:50 AM
Dp.

Ultra Nolanite
11-16-2011, 09:54 AM
That would make a cool trailer Spiderman6592

But I think we need to get a hint that Uncle Ben is gonna die. Not spoil it like have him on the ground in a pool of blood. But Just peter running through an alleyway shouting: Uncle Ben !!!

Preferably this would probably play while we hear Uncle Ben talk.

My two cents.

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 10:01 AM
Possibly, but again, we need to be wary about people crying "Copycat!". Not everyone knows that Uncle Ben dying is basically what makes Peter becomes Spidey.

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 10:06 AM
Superman shirts are more than Superman shirts. A lot of douchebags buy Superman shirts because "lol I'm invincible". The S is more of a status symbol than it is a display of fanaticism.

If you were to ask people who they liked more between Spider-Man and Superman, I'd guarantee you'd get more votes for Spider-Man


we're splitting hairs now, the long and the short of it is superman, batman and spidey are argubly (definately) the biggest superheroes on the planet but superman returns flopped (relatively) and batman begins made a modest return, there are unique reasons why the movies weren't bigger but the bottom line is the name batman and superman didn't guarantee success and neither will spider-man. the amazing spider-man needs to be a good movie if it wants to tear up **** at the box office and that's the way it should be as it forces everyone involved to bring their 'A' game rather than phoning it in or coasting.

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 10:14 AM
Spider-Man is bigger than Batman and Superman. Spider-Man is still basically on par with the new outlook on Batman. Superman fell by the wayside a long, long time ago. We're not splitting hairs. Spider-Man and Batman are the most popular heroes out there. Just because everyone knows who Superman is doesn't make him popular. I know who Superman is and I ****ing hate the concept.

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 10:17 AM
Spider-Man is bigger than Batman and Superman. Spider-Man is still basically on par with the new outlook on Batman. Superman fell by the wayside a long, long time ago. We're not splitting hairs. Spider-Man and Batman are the most popular heroes out there. Just because everyone knows who Superman is doesn't make him popular. I know who Superman is and I ****ing hate the concept.

so man of steel will flop? I doubt it.

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 10:18 AM
When did I say that again?

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 10:32 AM
When did I say that again?

it's true you didn't :yay:

I think what I'm saying is spider-man's name will ensure the movie will make money but only the quality of the movie will make the movie a massive hit especially when they are telling the origin again.

Ultra Nolanite
11-16-2011, 10:33 AM
so man of steel will flop? I doubt it.

No way it will ever flop. It's gonna be huge.

But I kinda see Spiderman####'s point. A lot of people KNOW Superman but A lot of people don't really like him, at least not more than Spiderman/Batman I believe.

Out of the big three he is my least favorite, but I'll be damn sure to check out the Zac Snyder version in 2013.

UltimateWebhead
11-16-2011, 10:37 AM
Dear baby Jesus,

Please send us the next trailer soon so my Spidey-bros will stop arguing over pointless issues, like 'who is the best superhero.'

So they can find peace in their hearts and high-five each other over how awesome the new trailer looks. And then do chest-bumps and give bro' slappin' hugs.

Thank you baby Jesus.

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 10:38 AM
Exactly. I'll probably end up seeing just out of intrigue to see where Snyder goes with it but Superman is easily my least favorite superhero out there. Man of Steel will be a hit, but I don't think it will make more than any of the recent Spider-Man and Batman movies.


I mean, I agree that I don't think TASM will be a huge hit at the BO next summer unless Sony's marketing produces a HUGE swing in the overall attitude shown towards this movie, but I don't think that matters. I think the movie will be ****ing awesome, whoever chooses not to see it is simply missing out.

SnuffTheRooster
11-16-2011, 10:44 AM
Holy ****, we get good news and everyones still arguing? Call it what you want but it doesn't seem like just friendly conversation to me.

Now, here's something we should be discussing, WHEN in December do you think it will come out? What movie will it be released with? Let's take some guesses

UltimateWebhead
11-16-2011, 10:46 AM
Holy ****, we get good news and everyones still arguing? Call it what you want but it doesn't seem like just friendly conversation to me.

Now, here's something we should be discussing, WHEN in December do you think it will come out? What movie will it be released with? Let's take some guesses

I know right. Did you see my prayer above...I guess baby Jesus hasn't gotten it yet. :csad:

I am betting on either Tintin or the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I'm not sure if either will be in 3D but I'd be willing to bet Sony will want the trailer to be in 3D as well.

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 10:51 AM
Tintin is in 3D. That's our best bet. Only a month and 5 days away.

UltimateWebhead
11-16-2011, 10:54 AM
Tintin is in 3D. That's our best bet. Only a month and 5 days away.

Thank you. I knew one of them was for sure in 3D but couldn't remember which.

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 10:56 AM
Exactly. I'll probably end up seeing just out of intrigue to see where Snyder goes with it but Superman is easily my least favorite superhero out there. Man of Steel will be a hit, but I don't think it will make more than any of the recent Spider-Man and Batman movies.


I mean, I agree that I don't think TASM will be a huge hit at the BO next summer unless Sony's marketing produces a HUGE swing in the overall attitude shown towards this movie, but I don't think that matters. I think the movie will be ****ing awesome, whoever chooses not to see it is simply missing out.


I never said ASM wont be a big hit, I'm saying to be a big hit the movie will more than likely have to have good word of mouth whereas I can see avengers and TDKR being big hits even if the respective movies are rubbish.

Oscorp
11-16-2011, 11:30 AM
I hate Superman. Ah well, hate is a strong word, but I find him incredibly lame (in his Superman form, that is). And everyone I know thinks the same.

Anyway, let's skip the Superman talk for now. I'm incredibly excited about the theatrical trailer coming up!

Troy_Parker
11-16-2011, 11:55 AM
A lot of the general audience is uninformed, and are looking at this as a retelling of the first movie.

Which is why I hope the next trailer clears up a lot of misconceptions.

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 11:59 AM
A lot of the general audience is uninformed, and are looking at this as a retelling of the first movie.

Which is why I hope the next trailer clears up a lot of misconceptions.


parker is in high school
parker will gain his powers
(unknown whether ben will die)

so the movie is retelling at least the first act of spider-man 1

Troy_Parker
11-16-2011, 12:00 PM
It's not a retelling of the first movie.

It's a retelling of the origin.

And yes, Ben will die.

Godzilla2014
11-16-2011, 12:02 PM
It's not a retelling of the first movie.

It's a retelling of the origin.

And yes, Ben will die.

Of course Uncle Ben is going to die. That's a given with Spider-Man's origin. I'd say it's even more important than the spider bite.

Troy_Parker
11-16-2011, 12:09 PM
Well...

I'd say that's equally important.

No spider bite, no Spider-Man.

Without it he'd just be...Man.

Do you want to see Man the movie? :P

spideyguy16
11-16-2011, 12:10 PM
Agreed.

Spider-ManHero12
11-16-2011, 12:11 PM
Of course Uncle Ben is going to die. That's a given with Spider-Man's origin. I'd say it's even more important than the spider bite. Agreed.

Godzilla2014
11-16-2011, 12:18 PM
Well...

I'd say that's equally important.

No spider bite, no Spider-Man.

Without it he'd just be...Man.

Do you want to see Man the movie? :P

I'm talking about as far as what is most important to show in a telling of the origin. I'm more interested in the why than the how. Uncle Ben's death is Spider-Man's raison d'ętre. Without Uncle Ben's death, Spider-Man wouldn't be a crimefighter.

spideyguy16
11-16-2011, 12:18 PM
Parle francais?

Troy_Parker
11-16-2011, 12:22 PM
I'm talking about as far as what is most important to show in a telling of the origin. I'm more interested in the why than the how. Uncle Ben's death is Spider-Man's raison d'ętre. Without Uncle Ben's death, Spider-Man wouldn't be a crimefighter.

Meh.

They're still equally important.

One is the reason why he does what he does, another is the explanation of how he has the ability to do what he does.

Godzilla2014
11-16-2011, 12:22 PM
Parle francais?

Quid?

VenomSpawn
11-16-2011, 12:23 PM
Parle francais?

Non. Non.

Spider-ManHero12
11-16-2011, 12:24 PM
I'm talking about as far as what is most important to show in a telling of the origin. I'm more interested in the why than the how. Uncle Ben's death is Spider-Man's raison d'ętre. Without Uncle Ben's death, Spider-Man wouldn't be a crimefighter. Very true. It's what made Spider-Man who he was. If it wasn't for that, he'd just have the powers, and that's it.

spideyguy16
11-16-2011, 12:26 PM
Quid?

*nods head and smiles like an idiot because I don't know what that means*

Godzilla2014
11-16-2011, 12:30 PM
Very true. It's what made Spider-Man who he was. If it wasn't for that, he'd just have the powers, and that's it.

Agreed. I'm more interested in seeing why Peter Parker fights crime. How he got his powers is much less important. The former deals with Peter Parker as a character, the latter doesn't really add anything to the character in and of himself.

*nods head and smiles like an idiot because I don't know what that means*

"What?"

Spider-ManHero12
11-16-2011, 12:30 PM
Agreed. I'm more interested in seeing why Peter Parker fights crime. How he got his powers is much less important. The former deals with Peter Parker as a character, the latter doesn't really add anything to the character in and of himself.



Good point.

Spiderman6592
11-16-2011, 12:40 PM
If you're going to show Uncle Ben's death, you might as well show the bite. They happen within days/weeks of each other.

Godzilla2014
11-16-2011, 12:45 PM
If I had to skip one, I'd skip the bite and see Uncle Ben's death. The truth is that there's no significance to the spider other than a source of power. It's a plot device that isn't part of a deeper allegory, nor does it touch upon themes other than possibly the randomness of fate and the unpredictability of life.
Uncle Ben's death is what leads him to being the person Peter is. I'll take character development over a plot device anyday.

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 01:26 PM
It's not a retelling of the first movie.

It's a retelling of the origin.



Can the general audience make that distinction? The general audience was calling avatar 'dancers with smurfs' purely because the main protagonist went native. They will see the basic concept of Spidey gaining his powers. Again.
Sure, Spidey's origin has been told a dozen times in the comics and fans are used to the concept but were not talking about the comics were talking about the movies and were not talking about fans were taking about Joe bloggs down the street.

If it were me making the movie I wouldn't touch the origin with a barge pole. Get on with it and anything the audience needs explained tell it in flashbacks. Essentially spider-man 4 with different actors, costume and tone.

Oscorp
11-16-2011, 01:30 PM
Urgh, this remake/reboot talk makes me sick

White_Knight191
11-16-2011, 01:31 PM
"What?"
I think you meant "Quoi?" :oldrazz:
French is my second language. :awesome:

Godzilla2014
11-16-2011, 01:34 PM
I think you meant "Quoi?" :oldrazz:
French is my second language. :awesome:

Nope.

elsewhere
11-16-2011, 01:37 PM
Great news!

So next month we'll have trailers for:

The Dark Knight Rises
The Amazing Spider-Man
The Hobbit

Can't wait!

Troy_Parker
11-16-2011, 01:37 PM
Can the general audience make that distinction? The general audience was calling avatar 'dancers with smurfs' purely because the main protagonist went native. They will see the basic concept of Spidey gaining his powers. Again.
Sure, Spidey's origin has been told a dozen times in the comics and fans are used to the concept but were not talking about the comics were talking about the movies and were not talking about fans were taking about Joe bloggs down the street.

If it were me making the movie I wouldn't touch the origin with a barge pole. Get on with it and anything the audience needs explained tell it in flashbacks. Essentially spider-man 4 with different actors, costume and tone.

That's going the be one aim when Sony starts marketing this, to make that distinction FOR the audience. While myself and others really enjoyed the first trailer, it didn't really do much for the general audience, unfortunately.

Hoping this next trailer turns things around.

Godzilla2014
11-16-2011, 01:40 PM
I think the general audience just isn't excited to see Spider-Man's origin again after only 10 years, and I can't blame them, so trying to use that as the selling point like the "teaser" trailer did was a huge mistake, in my opinion.

White_Knight191
11-16-2011, 02:04 PM
Nope.

Oh wow, you even thaught me a new word! :awesome: :up:

spideyguy16
11-16-2011, 02:20 PM
I have never in my life seen the word quid lol but okay:D

Godzilla2014
11-16-2011, 02:21 PM
I have never in my life seen the word quid lol but okay:D

It's Latin.

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 02:49 PM
I think the general audience just isn't excited to see Spider-Man's origin again after only 10 years, and I can't blame them, so trying to use that as the selling point like the "teaser" trailer did was a huge mistake, in my opinion.

I agree, I have a friend who isn't into comics but I respect his movie opinion and his opinion of the trailer was 'haven't we already seen the origin'.
if sony has any sense whatsoever in the new trailer they wont use a single frame which calls back to the original spider-man movie.

AbsractPo3tic
11-16-2011, 03:32 PM
What up guys? Haven't been on in so so long..lots of stuff going on..anyway, really glad to hear a new trailer will be out in December but my question for everyone here is, how do we determine what a general audience thinks and doesn't think or wants and doesn't want? We can't base it off of YouTube or how many people comment on stories or videos because the number of people who don't comment on videos or articles outweighs the number of people who do comment. And as far as our friends go, won't they all have different opinions? All of my friends are thrilled that they're rebooting Spidey and can't wait to see it but in no way would I say that their opinion represents a whole or doesn't represent a whole. So with that said, is there any way for us to truly gauge how the audience will react to the film or feels about it 8 months away from its release?

spider-neil
11-16-2011, 03:45 PM
What up guys? Haven't been on in so so long..lots of stuff going on..anyway, really glad to hear a new trailer will be out in December but my question for everyone here is, how do we determine what a general audience thinks and doesn't think or wants and doesn't want? We can't base it off of YouTube or how many people comment on stories or videos because the number of people who don't comment on videos or articles outweighs the number of people who do comment. And as far as our friends go, won't they all have different opinions? All of my friends are thrilled that they're rebooting Spidey and can't wait to see it but in no way would I say that their opinion represents a whole or doesn't represent a whole. So with that said, is there any way for us to truly gauge how the audience will react to the film or feels about it 8 months away from its release?

I think this trailer is a dark horse and can go either way. it's unprecedented that a billion dollar franchise has been rebooted at the height of it's popularity.

AbsractPo3tic
11-16-2011, 04:02 PM
well height of its popularity commercially but not critically and that's the thing. It's one thing for a studio, or anyone for that matter, to sit back and count money but its another to not let that money get in the way of making a good product and the general consensus on Spidey 3 is that it was a misstep. Creatively, when you have a misstep, you gotta do something. It's definitely a gamble but not an impossible task to pull off, especially with 8 months of marketing left. X-men First Class, while not a HUGE movie, was rebooted after x-men 3 made the most money of any film in the franchise and there's no question in my mind which is the better flick and it was successful, despite everything it had working against it. Now of course, I want this film to be bigger than x-men first class was but I really just want a great flick and I don't think there should be much worry about the film's success because at the end of the day, kids love spider-man and kids will go see it or drag their parents to see it..I know I would lol

©KAW
11-16-2011, 05:56 PM
I think this trailer is a dark horse and can go either way. it's unprecedented that a billion dollar franchise has been rebooted at the height of it's popularity.
Popularity is sometimes encased in mediocrity. They did the right thing.

Troy_Parker
11-16-2011, 08:24 PM
Has a trailer for a PG-13 movie like this ever been with a PG movie?

I know that they can cut/edit trailer footage to make the trailer suitable for a younger audience, and I know that happens often...but if the Lizard's in the next trailer, I'm guessing (hoping) it's going to be a little more...hmm, rough?

UltimateWebhead
11-16-2011, 08:41 PM
Has a trailer for a PG-13 movie like this ever been with a PG movie?

I know that they can cut/edit trailer footage to make the trailer suitable for a younger audience, and I know that happens often...but if the Lizard's in the next trailer, I'm guessing (hoping) it's going to be a little more...hmm, rough?

The movie will probably be Rated PG-13 for sure but mostly for action, violence, scary images and maybe a bad word or two. It'd be pretty easy to make a Spidey trailer that would be Rated for Everyone. If they do show the Lizard at this point I'd expect very little.

spider-neil
11-17-2011, 03:21 AM
Spidey doesn't need to be the biggest hit on the block it just has to make enough for a sequel (and it already has a date penciled in) so the most important thing is that its a good movie.

TheWallCrawler
11-17-2011, 03:54 AM
To be honest, I think it's going to be a very big hit by surprising everybody, and it will be on Nolan Batman's level. Yeah, you heard me!

If the movie really will be awesome which it probably will, there's gonna be a very small amounts of haters after. GA just doesn't realize what movie we're dealing with here, can't blame them really... we haven't seen almost anything from it (other than stills and the origin centered trailer which don't tell much about the actual movie)

Spiderman6592
11-17-2011, 06:55 AM
There is literally nothing that I'm worried about hindering this movie. I don't think I've ever been so confident about a movie before.

I mean, TDKR I'm still a little bit skeptical of how Catwoman will be presented and The Avengers, I'm still a little skeptical of the entire project though it will be entertaining either way. With this, I've just been floored with everything I've seen or heard about.

Oscorp
11-17-2011, 06:59 AM
The only thing I'm worried about in ASM is how Lizard will look.

Troy_Parker
11-17-2011, 07:00 AM
He looked big and scary in those blurry ass pictures we've seen. And that was unfinished CGI.

I'm not worried. :D

Oscorp
11-17-2011, 07:01 AM
Yeah but will he be completely naked? I really hope not!

Spiderman6592
11-17-2011, 07:15 AM
That doesn't have anything to do with the story though. I meant elements that actually really matter. As long as the Lizard is somewhat believable, I'll be fine with it as long as the story is excellent. Similar to how I overlooked Goblin's look in SM1.

spider-neil
11-17-2011, 08:37 AM
please please please sony imageworks, make lizard look real. please don't take me out the movie everytime the lizard is on screen.

Oscorp
11-17-2011, 08:39 AM
Hopefully, we'll find out in December what he looks like ;)

Spiderman6592
11-17-2011, 08:42 AM
Well I mean, RIM said the unfinished VFX reel looked amazing so if the Spidey VFX are a telling tale, then we should be getting a great Lizard.


Besides, Sony Imageworks can provide spectacular VFX, you can see it in the first three films. Just sometimes they get lazy. However, the Lizard is the main protagonist, so they won't really have a choice but to make him look pristine.

Spidey220987
11-17-2011, 09:04 AM
I have never in my life seen the word quid lol but okay:D
Quid has many meanings, but the most common one I know is that it is British for Pound (our currency in the UK) :yay:

spider-neil
11-17-2011, 09:07 AM
sony imageworks is so hit and miss and sometimes in the SAME MOVIE.
SM1
running across the roof tops when he is chasing uncle ben's killer - a disgrace!
the final swing at the end of the movie - majestic!

when SIW brings it's 'A' game they are really good but they can be equally as rubbish.

Spidey220987
11-17-2011, 09:16 AM
Meanwhile, back on topic, I (as well as everyone else) can't wait for the theatrical trailer.
Hopefully a full Lizard reveal, if not a glimpse.
If there's a glimpse in the "upcoming" trailer, then "Theatrical Trailer 2" (if you include the teaser, then Trailer 3) should have a full reveal.

I hope they manage to do enough without promoting loads of the good stuff in the trailers.
I especially hate it when the good lines in trailers are edited in the actual film, e.g. different words, different delivery. Really looking forward to seeing the more practical effects in action!

Troy_Parker
11-17-2011, 10:07 AM
Even though it looks a little shoddy now, Sony Imageworks's work during the Uncle Ben killer chase scene was actually very good for its time. They managed to fool the studio by saying they actually got a stuntman in a suit to do that stuff on a greenscreen.

They told them the truth after though. Lol

spider-neil
11-17-2011, 10:09 AM
Even though it looks a little shoddy now, Sony Imageworks's work during the Uncle Ben killer chase scene was actually very good for its time. They managed to fool the studio by saying they actually got a stuntman in a suit to do that stuff on a greenscreen.

They told them the truth after though. Lol

the swinging after the car holds up but the running across rooftops looked rubbish AT THE TIME and has only gotten worse with age.

Troy_Parker
11-17-2011, 10:09 AM
I think we'll definitely be getting a glimpse of the Lizard in this new trailer.

They got away with not showing him in the teaser, but there's no excuse now.

This movie only has one main villain, they can't afford to hold out on the Lizard reveal like they did with Venom.

Spider-ManHero12
11-17-2011, 10:10 AM
I still think thhe VFX were fantastic in all 3 film. S-M2 won the oscor for best VFX.

Troy_Parker
11-17-2011, 10:10 AM
the swinging after the car holds up but the running across rooftops looked rubbish AT THE TIME and has only gotten worse with age.

True. It looks like a cutscene from a game. Lol

Troy_Parker
11-17-2011, 10:12 AM
I still think thhe VFX were fantastic in all 3 film. S-M2 won the oscor for best VFX.

Nobody's arguing otherwise, we're just saying (some) parts of the VFX sequences don't hold up too well.

Juicy J
11-17-2011, 10:44 AM
Nobody's arguing otherwise, we're just saying (some) parts of the VFX sequences don't hold up too well.

Yeah there are bits and pieces in the first and second film (and even brief tiny bits of the third) that just didn't work but the overall product was amazing so there's very little complaining about it haha.
Heck, that end swing sequence from Spider-man 1 is still today one of my favorite scenes in any movie. Gives me chills every time.

spider-neil
11-17-2011, 10:45 AM
True. It looks like a cutscene from a game. Lol

I was taken out of the movie for that whole sequence and only got back into the movie when he swings for the first time. the scene of him running and jumping is SHOCKINGLY bad.

spider-neil
11-17-2011, 10:48 AM
True story. This and TDKR


it does fill you with a bit more confidence that sony hired a character director rather than a action director, this all but guarantee that no matter how 'out there' the themes at least the characterizations will be spot on.

I saw 500 days and even the the dance scene was a 'wtf' moment the most of the movie had heart felt performances.

Spiderman6592
11-17-2011, 10:56 AM
I loved the dance scene. It was a great departure from the gravity of the emotional aspects of the film. Not to say I'd want anything like it in a Spider-Man film, but I thought it fit perfectly.


Also, my faith in this reboot was restored as soon as Andrew was cast. I'm still so stoked to see his take on Peter. He's going to ****ing rock it.

Troy_Parker
11-17-2011, 11:08 AM
The dance moment made sense, to me.

It was a visual representation of how Tom was feeling after being with Summer. :P

Spiderman6592
11-17-2011, 11:08 AM
Precisely.

Oscorp
11-17-2011, 11:12 AM
The dance moment made sense, to me.

It was a visual representation of how Tom was feeling after being with Summer. :P

Exactly! And you really feel with him there! It's like looking in a mirror!

UltimateWebhead
11-17-2011, 01:15 PM
I still think thhe VFX were fantastic in all 3 film. S-M2 won the oscor for best VFX.

This is true. The effects were very good for the time but if you look, there really wasn't much competition for the VFX award that year. Watching the movie today, there are quite a few shots that look cheesy.

Pac-Master
11-17-2011, 02:59 PM
The dance moment made sense, to me.

It was a visual representation of how Tom was feeling after being with Summer. :P

Precisely.
It's one of my favorite scenes in the movie.

PSYLENTGuardian
11-17-2011, 06:15 PM
Exactly! And you really feel with him there! It's like looking in a mirror!

Speaking of mirrors, the Harrison Ford "cameo" was hilarious. Even the clothes were spot-on :awesome:

UltimateWebhead
11-17-2011, 07:21 PM
Dancing is all well and good but I swear to the heavens above that if I see my beloved Spidey dancing down the street again, the next days newspaper headline will read as such:

"Crazed man beheads several hundred at Spider-man premiere"

Scarlettess
11-18-2011, 06:52 AM
So I just heard we're getting a trailer in December, is this correct and offically confirmed?

If not, then not long too go now!

Troy_Parker
11-18-2011, 08:12 AM
Confirmed.

Spider-ManHero12
11-18-2011, 08:14 AM
I just realized how clsoe we are to December.

Troy_Parker
11-18-2011, 08:18 AM
Cannot wait!

spider-neil
11-18-2011, 08:36 AM
Cannot wait!


I can, I'm nervous about the quality.

Spiderman6592
11-18-2011, 08:44 AM
...why?

webhead9707
11-18-2011, 08:57 AM
I think the worst CGI in the movies were in SM3 when Spidey was pulling the symbiote off while falling in the final fight with venom. His face looked like a mentally handicapped person.

spider-neil
11-18-2011, 08:59 AM
...why?


I'm nervous about the look of lizard. I'm not saying I think it will be bad I'm saying I'm nervous.

Troy_Parker
11-18-2011, 09:00 AM
I can, I'm nervous about the quality.

Cool.

I'm not worried AT ALL. Everything I've seen and heard about this has done nothing but reinforce my hopes.

Troy_Parker
11-18-2011, 09:01 AM
I'm nervous about the look of lizard. I'm not saying I think it will be bad I'm saying I'm nervous.

He's big and scary. What're you worried about? The effects?

Spiderman6592
11-18-2011, 09:04 AM
The Lizard will look great if the effects RIM saw were any indication. I'm not even slightly worried. Just stoked out of my ****ing mind.

Spider-ManHero12
11-18-2011, 09:07 AM
I can, I'm nervous about the quality. Agreed. I'm very hopeful, but skeptical.

Troy_Parker
11-18-2011, 09:08 AM
@Spiderman6592: Agreed. I can't wait to see Spidey in action.

Troy_Parker
11-18-2011, 09:10 AM
Agreed. I'm very hopeful, but skeptical.

What are you nervous about? You've had enough to form a general opinion for this, as I'm guessing you have for The Avengers. :P

Spider-ManHero12
11-18-2011, 09:11 AM
Stuff involving the parent angle, and other things. Is it bad to be skeptical.

Spiderman6592
11-18-2011, 09:14 AM
lol "other things"


And the parent angle isn't really going to serve as anything but a plot device to get Peter into Oscorp and possibly develop his webshooters. You couldn't figure that out?

Spider-ManHero12
11-18-2011, 09:16 AM
lol "other things"


And the parent angle isn't really going to serve as anything but a plot device to get Peter into Oscorp and possibly develop his webshooters. You couldn't figure that out? If that's the case, then I don't min it. I figured that would be the case, but you just never know. It's jsut that, as Stan Lee, Peter's parents shouldn't be used often because they aren't the ones who truly were the parental figures for Peter (which is why Stan only used them once in the comics). However, if it's done well, I'll be really happy.

I'm still very excited.

Troy_Parker
11-18-2011, 09:20 AM
Well, doesn't change the fact that they should have a prescence in Peter's life...

Besides, they're just minor plot devices, so don't worry. :D

spider-neil
11-18-2011, 09:21 AM
The Lizard will look great if the effects RIM saw were any indication. I'm not even slightly worried. Just stoked out of my ****ing mind.

didn't RIM just say the 'sequence' was good rather than the effects IN the sequence?

Spiderman6592
11-18-2011, 09:22 AM
The only reason they're in the film is because they didn't want to send Peter on another class field trip to avoid the film being called a copycat even more than it is. Peter recalls that day with his parents, digs up his dad's stuff, finds the Oscorp badge, and presumably the adhesive formula. Goes to Oscorp, gets bit, gets his powers, develops the webshooters then Uncle Ben dies and he realizes through his grief and mourning that Uncle Ben was the person that mattered to him most. Voila.


And no, he said the effects themselves were amazing. Something along the lines of, "The effects look awesome even though they're not completely finished."

spider-neil
11-18-2011, 09:25 AM
personally speaking I thought the drama and exposition of the first trailer was excellent but the bit at the end (running over roof tops) took me out of the trailer.
that is my honest opinion, so I am not nervous that the drama and depth will hit their marks I'm nervous the effects will scream CGI and whilst a 6 foot tall lizards is obviously CG it can (if done properly) look 'real'. the na'vi were 10 foot tall blue people but looked completely tactile and real.

Spiderman6592
11-18-2011, 09:27 AM
9 foot*



And this is what RIM had to say about the VFX

"If I was so impressed by some pieces of VFX footage, imagine what will happen when I'll see the REAL (finished) DEAL. God..."

Implying that the VFX already look amazing and they still have months to fine tune it.

Troy_Parker
11-18-2011, 09:28 AM
Relax, Neil. I'm pretty sure people praised the CG for Lizzy in the SDCC footage...and that wasn't even complete.

I'm positive that Marc wouldn't have used the Lizard if he felt as though he wouldn't be able to do justice to him.

Scarlettess
11-18-2011, 09:38 AM
9 foot*



And this is what RIM had to say about the VFX

"If I was so impressed by some pieces of VFX footage, imagine what will happen when I'll see the REAL (finished) DEAL. God..."

Implying that the VFX already look amazing and they still have months to fine tune it.

This makes me giddy! :woot: December is less than 2 weeks away!

Oh and I still hold my bet that the trailer will be released with 200 days to go until the movie. (which in the countdown the 200th issue is the conclusion to the death of Uncle Ben...wouldn't just be coincidence?) and that is exactly a month from now. :woot:

spider-neil
11-18-2011, 10:59 AM
na'vi - 10/10
golum - 9/10
kong - 9/10

I am hoping the lizard is at least 8/10

spideyguy16
11-18-2011, 11:54 AM
Good rankings. If anything the lizard has a possibility of 9, I think. 10 would make me sooooo happy :D

spider-neil
11-18-2011, 12:01 PM
Good rankings. If anything the lizard has a possibility of 9, I think. 10 would make me sooooo happy :D

as a comparison I would put the birth of sandman (imho the best effect of the entire spider-man franchise) as an 8/10 effect compared to na'vi/gollum

TheWiseGuy487
11-18-2011, 12:54 PM
9 foot*



And this is what RIM had to say about the VFX

"If I was so impressed by some pieces of VFX footage, imagine what will happen when I'll see the REAL (finished) DEAL. God..."

Implying that the VFX already look amazing and they still have months to fine tune it.

I'm getting excited just thinking about this! :wow:

Can't wait for the trailer to come out next month!

Ajendo
11-18-2011, 04:46 PM
New trailer in December eh? Is there an actual date to look forward to or has it just been left at, trailer in December?

I've been away from these boards for a while mainly because there was jack crap to talk about regarding this movie but with this year coming to an end and the new year approaching, I'll be making the usual rounds, much to the dismay of a select few...

Gwendolyn Stacy
11-18-2011, 05:00 PM
New trailer in December eh? Is there an actual date to look forward to or has it just been left at, trailer in December?

I've been away from these boards for a while mainly because there was jack crap to talk about regarding this movie but with this year coming to an end and the new year approaching, I'll be making the usual rounds, much to the dismay of a select few...
RealIronMan didn't give us a date, but more than likely, the trailer will be with The Adventures of Tintin.

DACrowe
11-18-2011, 11:53 PM
I just want to see Lizard (with a labcoat :o ) in action and Spidey's supposed new personae with quips et al. These are things that will be different and will sell the movie to an audience of skeptics (including myself). Focusing on the origin, Gwen Stacy, parents and a Nolan-ized tone or not, is not going to sell this movie.

Naite22
11-19-2011, 12:45 AM
I've both seen people on youtube talking about the effects of the Lizard (which they saw at the Con) was "pretty bad", because of course UNfinished CG... and I've heard others saying that Lizard looked great!?... which is it?

Naite22
11-19-2011, 12:47 AM
This makes me giddy! :woot: December is less than 2 weeks away!

Oh and I still hold my bet that the trailer will be released with 200 days to go until the movie. (which in the countdown the 200th issue is the conclusion to the death of Uncle Ben...wouldn't just be coincidence?) and that is exactly a month from now. :woot:
Nice thinking there, Sherlock :cwink: I highly doubt that will actually happen though.

spida-man
11-19-2011, 12:47 AM
na'vi - 10/10
golum - 9/10
kong - 9/10

I am hoping the lizard is at least 8/10

The Grid - 100/10

VenomSpawn
11-19-2011, 01:06 AM
RealIronMan didn't give us a date, but more than likely, the trailer will be with The Adventures of Tintin.

RIM just posted on Twitter today that "December 6-7 are going to be so damn good" with the #ASM hashtag after it. So, I'll be willing to bet that's when we'll get our trailer.

Ajendo
11-19-2011, 02:51 AM
Thanks Gwendolyn and Venom. So we may be looking at an early December release, hmm not long to go now. I really hope we get something special because this film on paper looks like it should be good but I've suspended my hype for this film for some time now and I really hope to see something that can blow my mind.

RealIrOnMaN
11-19-2011, 05:03 AM
RIM just posted on Twitter today that "December 6-7 are going to be so damn good" with the #ASM hashtag after it. So, I'll be willing to bet that's when we'll get our trailer.
It is also connected with TDKR and The Avengers, so it's more than just some trailer release) I'll let you know, when I'll have more details)

Spider-ManHero12
11-19-2011, 06:07 AM
It is also connected with TDKR and The Avengers, so it's more than just some trailer release) I'll let you know, when I'll have more details) Nice. :up:

awesome232
11-19-2011, 07:05 AM
RIM just posted on Twitter today that "December 6-7 are going to be so damn good" with the #ASM hashtag after it. So, I'll be willing to bet that's when we'll get our trailer.

Excellent.....Muhahahahaha!

Oscorp
11-19-2011, 07:15 AM
The only reason they're in the film is because they didn't want to send Peter on another class field trip to avoid the film being called a copycat even more than it is. Peter recalls that day with his parents, digs up his dad's stuff, finds the Oscorp badge, and presumably the adhesive formula. Goes to Oscorp, gets bit, gets his powers, develops the webshooters then Uncle Ben dies and he realizes through his grief and mourning that Uncle Ben was the person that mattered to him most. Voila.


And no, he said the effects themselves were amazing. Something along the lines of, "The effects look awesome even though they're not completely finished."

I love the sound of all of this! :up:

Pac-Master
11-19-2011, 07:49 AM
It is also connected with TDKR and The Avengers, so it's more than just some trailer release) I'll let you know, when I'll have more details)
Nice.

VenomSpawn
11-19-2011, 08:00 AM
It is also connected with TDKR and The Avengers, so it's more than just some trailer release) I'll let you know, when I'll have more details)

Hmmm.... interesting.

VenomSpawn
11-19-2011, 08:14 AM
What's his twitter? I wanna follow him.

https://twitter.com/#!/RIMBreaks

awesome232
11-19-2011, 08:42 AM
Hey, RIM, every time I try to follow you on Twitter it says im not following you. My twitter is epicfail232.

Spiderman6592
11-19-2011, 09:00 AM
C'mon RIM don't be so cryptic! Tell us what you know!

























































































Please?

Spider-ManHero12
11-19-2011, 10:37 AM
Patience, guys, lol.

UltimateWebhead
11-19-2011, 11:14 AM
Patience, guys, lol.

Nnnnnoooooo!!! NOW!!! :cmad:

Spiderman6592
11-19-2011, 11:15 AM
There's no such thing as patience when it's been nearly half a year since our last true piece of info.

Spider-ManHero12
11-19-2011, 11:19 AM
Nnnnnoooooo!!! NOW!!! :cmad: Patience!!! :cmad:

VenomSpawn
11-19-2011, 11:22 AM
There's no such thing as patience when it's been nearly half a year since our last true piece of info.

I agree with this.

Oscorp
11-19-2011, 11:24 AM
Why should we be patient? :P This is the hype ;)

itsleroy
11-19-2011, 11:34 AM
We should be thankful that we even have RIM to keep our spirits up.

Thanks dude.

But 'more' than a trailer?


... 2 trailers?

Pac-Master
11-19-2011, 11:42 AM
Poster, maybe.

Godzilla2014
11-19-2011, 11:43 AM
Has a trailer for a PG-13 movie like this ever been with a PG movie?

I know that they can cut/edit trailer footage to make the trailer suitable for a younger audience, and I know that happens often...but if the Lizard's in the next trailer, I'm guessing (hoping) it's going to be a little more...hmm, rough?

Why are the Spider-Man films rated PG-13 anyway? I don't think any of the Spidey films yet have had much that the majority of parents objected to their kids watching?

VenomSpawn
11-19-2011, 11:47 AM
Why are the Spider-Man films rated PG-13 anyway? I don't think any of the Spidey films yet have had much that the majority of parents objected to their kids watching?

It's not a matter of whether parents object. Spider-Man films have violence and blood and (very mild) language and all of that stuff, it's just standard rating procedure.

Godzilla2014
11-19-2011, 11:50 AM
It's not a matter of whether parents object. Spider-Man films have violence and blood and (very mild) language and all of that stuff, it's just standard rating procedure.

I think the "PG-13" net is cast far too wide for its own good.

VenomSpawn
11-19-2011, 11:55 AM
I think the "PG-13" net is cast far too wide for its own good.

Perhaps. But I don't really think the rating matters. Kids will still go to see this movie and drag there parents along with them, so it's not really going to affect anything unless they made it rated R, which they would never do with a Spider-Man film.

Spider-ManHero12
11-19-2011, 11:56 AM
Eh, I disagree. I think PG-13 fits it well. Though, I'm surprised the "F" word gets a pass through PG-13.

Godzilla2014
11-19-2011, 12:00 PM
Perhaps. But I don't really think the rating matters. Kids will still go to see this movie and drag there parents along with them, so it's not really going to affect anything unless they made it rated R, which they would never do with a Spider-Man film.

My problem is when a movie like The Dark Knight comes out and people cry "it's not for the little ones, it should be rated R!".

VenomSpawn
11-19-2011, 12:07 PM
My problem is when a movie like The Dark Knight comes out and people cry "it's not for the little ones, it should be rated R!".

You still need parental supervision to view a PG-13 movie if you aren't 13 (I think), so if the parents don't want them to see it, they just don't have to take them to see it.

Spider-ManHero12
11-19-2011, 12:25 PM
Indeed.

Mary Jane Watson
11-19-2011, 12:40 PM
Also don't forget that Spidey is VERYY popluar with children too ( even wayy more than Batman).

socool
11-19-2011, 12:44 PM
No news? K, I can dig it.

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