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Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 04:35 AM
The Pez dispenser pics were out since the 16th of November.

http://pastorpez.blogspot.com/2011/11/first-look-spiderman-and-lizard.html

Holy **** guys, we need to work on our spy skills. Wow, LOL!

Oscorp
11-29-2011, 06:04 AM
I love that Lizard looks more like the Ditko version. Can't wait 'til we get some official pics of him.

TheDragonator
11-29-2011, 06:27 AM
Did people forget this already?

http://c181321.r21.cf0.rackcdn.com/PHzoN7IgkhdWCG_1_m.jpg

It's pretty clear it's mid-transformation. F***ing awesome, nonetheless.

Kryptonian Warrior
11-29-2011, 06:44 AM
Did people forget this already?

http://c181321.r21.cf0.rackcdn.com/PHzoN7IgkhdWCG_1_m.jpg

It's pretty clear it's mid-transformation. F***ing awesome, nonetheless.
That was taken so long ago, that I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the final look. Surely the look of The Lizard has/will go through many changes before they decide on the final look.

©KAW
11-29-2011, 06:50 AM
Nah, they're not showing that clip at the Comic-Con to eager geeks if it's not damn close to the final version.

webhead9707
11-29-2011, 07:31 AM
Nah, they're not showing that clip at the Comic-Con to eager geeks if it's not damn close to the final version.

Don't doubt Sony, haha, Venom looked different then he ended up being. but that may have been from the leak, not a release, can't remember..

Kryptonian Warrior
11-29-2011, 08:07 AM
I just find it hard to believe that could have been the final look when the film was still almost a year away at that point. They knew that they were going to have a presentation and they wanted to get something ready, but that doesn't mean that's THE final look of The Lizard. So here we are, several months after that footage was shown, and the look seems to have evolved, and we get an image of The Lizard that's different than what was shown in the footage. Granted, it is a small, plastic PEZ dispenser and not the greatest representation, but I have to believe that it's closer to the final look than what was shown in the footage. However, if what was shown in the footage is the final look, then so be it. It just seems odd that they would decide on the final look that far in advance. All that being said, I would absolutely be thrilled if he does wind up looking like what was shown in the footage, because it's all kinds of badass!

Ultra Nolanite
11-29-2011, 08:11 AM
Lizards don't have pointy snouts, but they're not flatnosed either. Just saying. I actually think he looks cooler in the pic Dragonator posted, Ditko be damned.

craigdbfan
11-29-2011, 08:15 AM
I just find it hard to believe that could have been the final look when the film was still almost a year away at that point. They knew that they were going to have a presentation and they wanted to get something ready, but that doesn't mean that's THE final look of The Lizard. So here we are, several months after that footage was shown, and the look seems to have evolved, and we get an image of The Lizard that's different than what was shown in the footage. Granted, it is a small, plastic PEZ dispenser and not the greatest representation, but I have to believe that it's closer to the final look than what was shown in the footage. However, if what was shown in the footage is the final look, then so be it. It just seems odd that they would decide on the final look that far in advance. All that being said, I would absolutely be thrilled if he does wind up looking like what was shown in the footage, because it's all kinds of badass!

The possibility remains that he goes through several different stages in terms of looks throughout the film.

Thus the various differing looks for the Lizard we've seen so far.

Kryptonian Warrior
11-29-2011, 08:16 AM
Lizards don't have pointy snouts, but they're not flatnosed either. Just saying. I actually think he looks cooler in the pic Dragonator posted, Ditko be damned.
When I first saw that pic, it did look like he had a pointy snout at first, but after looking at it more closely, that's his tongue sticking out at the end and it looks like his snout is more rounded.

Kryptonian Warrior
11-29-2011, 08:18 AM
The possibility remains that he goes through several different stages in terms of looks throughout the film.

Thus the various differing looks for the Lizard we've seen so far.
Good point! I didn't think about that. He could most certainly have several different looks throughout the course of the movie.

craigaat
11-29-2011, 08:35 AM
http://c181321.r21.cf0.rackcdn.com/PHzoN7IgkhdWCG_1_m.jpg

:awesome:

First time I've seen this!

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 08:45 AM
The possibility remains that he goes through several different stages in terms of looks throughout the film.

Thus the various differing looks for the Lizard we've seen so far. Good point.

Ultimatehero
11-29-2011, 10:16 AM
I think the pez is like brundlefly then we'll get full out lizard near the very end.

nightwing06
11-29-2011, 10:46 AM
Looks like a combination of the V alien and the Constrictor

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 11:30 AM
I doubt they'd use the least menacing version of the Lizard for the toy/s.

I don't think we're going to get a lot of versions.

Probably:

Scaly Doc Connors, the Lizard we've seen in the leaked SDCC screens/Hasbro toy/the Pez dispenser... and MAYBE, MAYBE an extremely primal version like in the later comics. That'll be for like, the final battle.

Casius--J
11-29-2011, 12:30 PM
Well that pez image is the best shot of the lizard I've seen so far and you know something? I quite like it! This may or may not be the final version but I like that they didn't go the full lizard dinosaur looking monster that we have seen over the recent years. My favourite version is actually the one they used in the 90's animated series but I will never be against a Ditko design.

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 12:43 PM
I doubt they'd use the least menacing version of the Lizard for the toy/s.

I don't think we're going to get a lot of versions.

Probably:

Scaly Doc Connors, the Lizard we've seen in the leaked SDCC screens/Hasbro toy/the Pez dispenser... and MAYBE, MAYBE an extremely primal version like in the later comics. That'll be for like, the final battle. A part of me thinks he'll evovle further, but tbh, I doubt it it overall. I think how he looks in the Pez toy is basically what he'll look like in the final stages of his transformation.

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 12:55 PM
Agreed.

itsleroy
11-29-2011, 01:09 PM
Well, more sites seem to picking up the Lizard-PEZ news, so its only a matter of time before Sony responds with something.

©KAW
11-29-2011, 02:26 PM
Don't doubt Sony, haha, Venom looked different then he ended up being. but that may have been from the leak, not a release, can't remember..
He looked like a skinny piece of sh-- in both cases. The look of the leaked Lizard photo from the Comic-Con ain't changing, or at least I hope not.

Still can't believe no one had a clear shot of that leaked pic.

Superhero 101
11-29-2011, 02:32 PM
Funniest comment i read about the lizard was how people are calling him the "A Hulked out Voldermort."

©KAW
11-29-2011, 02:34 PM
I hope the makeup is as good as Voldermort's.

Oscorp
11-29-2011, 02:37 PM
I think Lizard looks badass!

Webhead38
11-29-2011, 02:43 PM
I don't know what the source is for that blurred picture circulating here, but the Pez photo is official product. I don't see Pez going through the trouble of making a mid-transformation head like you would for an action figure to assist in play time. So at this stage I have to believe what we see here is the basic design of what the Lizard will look like. And in this age of CGI, if that is the best they can do, their in trouble. That looks like something they would have made back in the 80's. And maybe that could have worked in
the 80's, but not today. It's inspiration carries no merit, if it doesn't wow audiences. Now clearly this is a toy so we can't judge the totality of what we see. But we can judge on the basic premise of what this sculpt is trying to achieve (just as we can with the Spiderman variation). And since the Spiderman version seems pretty close on all points of relevance, then I have to assume the Lizard head is true on that character as well. This film currently has all the makings to be a epic miscalculation if something pretty dramatic doesn't start rolling out. The film is getting little notice and is near the bottom for films most anticipated next Summer. The studio best be getting some damage control on this Lizard leak quickly. Because other sites are having a field day about it. Once you let perception sink in, that movie is toast. Ask the producers of Green Lantern.

theShape
11-29-2011, 02:45 PM
It's a Pez dispenser! Every one is the same size! Everyone shut up!

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 02:50 PM
Did anybody else see this coming? That the first PROPER look at the Lizard would be through a toy or something... if Sony slipped in even a single Lizard picture in the ****load of EW pictures we got a few months back, this wouldn't have happened. At the very least, it wouldn't have caused the stir its caused... lol

Oscorp
11-29-2011, 02:50 PM
Dudes, the majority of fans at SDCC said Lizard looked great! There's no need to worry! Compare the Spidey toy to how Spidey looks in the official pics/trailer. Of course Lizard will have a more detailed and better look in the film. He will be awesome! The only thing I worry about is if he will lack the lab coat.

kickass
11-29-2011, 02:57 PM
The thing is..............how is a lab coat supposed to stay on the Lizard if his body grows to be such a huge size? Obviously his lab coat will rip right off. I doubt it will stretch to his body size.

Unless his coat is just pieces of fabric clinging on here and there, that would be a very cool visual.

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 02:58 PM
I think Lizard looks badass! So do I. Ditko Lizard = greatness.

socool
11-29-2011, 03:13 PM
And in this age of CGI, if that is the best they can do, their in trouble. That looks like something they would have made back in the 80's. And maybe that could have worked in
the 80's, but not today. It's inspiration carries no merit, if it doesn't wow audiences.

Who said they created the Lizard design based on CGI limitations? What if, like most studios, they designed the character to the way they liked? I know, I know, it's crazy.

©KAW
11-29-2011, 03:19 PM
What, lol, Green Lantern was toast when they hired Ryan Reynolds?! :D

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 03:20 PM
Who said they created the Lizard design based on CGI limitations? What if, like most studios, they designed the character to the way they liked? I know, I know, it's crazy. Exactly.

I really don't see how Lizard look doesn't work.

Webhead38
11-29-2011, 03:21 PM
Who said they created the Lizard design based on CGI limitations? What if, like most studios, they designed the character to the way they liked? I know, I know, it's crazy.

What does that statement mean? I never said the Lizard was based on CGI. I said in this era, Hollywood uses CGI. And based on these pics, the design of the lizard looks like something they fashioned from MAKEUP AND APPLIANCES. When kids think of a lizard on a fantastic scale they think of Jurassic Park. So my point is, why are they designing a character that doesn't even compete with that basic foundation? So... back to my point... No one will care what the inspiration is if the final effect is lackluster and the audience can say, "I've seen better." 98% of ticket buyers will not care who Steve Ditko is. They want to be wowed for their money. Not get an illustrated guide on how the first artist designed him. If that was the case anyway, why aren't they giving that treatment to Spiderman first? This new version looks like a refurbished rubber Ultraman suit.

Spiderman6592
11-29-2011, 03:22 PM
He looked like a skinny piece of sh-- in both cases. The look of the leaked Lizard photo from the Comic-Con ain't changing, or at least I hope not.

Still can't believe no one had a clear shot of that leaked pic.

No one could could get a clear video or photo because the footage was 3D. The camera would have had to have been able to pick up 3D imaging.


And Webhead38, do you have like unbelievably good vision or what? How can you tell what kind of qualty the lizard is being presented in by looking at one, offscreen, mobile photo of SOMETHING BEING PRESENTED IN 3D? :facepalm:

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 03:23 PM
What does that statement mean? I never said the Lizard was based on CGI. I said in this era, Hollywood uses CGI. And based on these pics, the design of the lizard looks like something they fashioned from MAKEUP AND APPLIANCES. When kids think of a lizard on a fantastic scale they think of Jurassic Park. So my point is, why are they designing a character that doesn't even compete with that basic foundation? So... back to my point... No one will care what the inspiration is if the final effect is lackluster and the audience can say, "I've seen better." 98% of ticket buyers will not care who Steve Ditko is. They want to be wowed for their money. Not get a illustrated guide to what the first artist did with him. A Lizard is not always supposed to look like a dinasour though.

Spider-Who?
11-29-2011, 03:28 PM
I didn't even know they still made PEZ dispensers... it's probably the last place I'd look for anything related to this movie :oldrazz:

There’s a Lord of the Rings pez collection at the walmart near me. I guess pez has a long shelf life…

©KAW
11-29-2011, 03:30 PM
A Lizard is not always supposed to look like a dinasour though. Oh no, don't bring up dinosaurs and lizards. You'll be sorry.

Compi716
11-29-2011, 03:30 PM
What does that statement mean? I never said the Lizard was based on CGI. I said in this era, Hollywood uses CGI. And based on these pics, the design of the lizard looks like something they fashioned from MAKEUP AND APPLIANCES. When kids think of a lizard on a fantastic scale they think of Jurassic Park. So my point is, why are they designing a character that doesn't even compete with that basic foundation? So... back to my point... No one will care what the inspiration is if the final effect is lackluster and the audience can say, "I've seen better." 98% of ticket buyers will not care who Steve Ditko is. They want to be wowed for their money. Not get an illustrated guide on how the first artist designed him. If that was the case anyway, why aren't they giving that treatment to Spiderman first? This new version looks like a refurbished rubber Ultraman suit.
1. Since its a front view, we don't know how long the snout is. Judgements shouldn't be made yet.

2. The most memorable bits from Jurassic Park used animatronic dinosaurs, aka NOT CGI. If something awesome can be achieved practically, that's always the way to go.

Webhead38
11-29-2011, 03:33 PM
A Lizard is not always supposed to look like a dinasour though.

The first King Kong didn't look like an ape , but audiences accepted it because he was more monster than ape. But all subsequent movies had to sell him more as an ape for modern audiences because the technology was there to make him look right. The same will hold true for the Lizard. The public already has a premise of what a big monster lizard looks like based on the rapters from Jurassic Park. Fair or not, that pattern of expectation will weigh on how this villain is judged. So if he looks like he has makeup and appliances on, people will judge his appearance as dated. All I'm saying is you can conceptualize, but you have to build upon what has already come before. They don't appear to be doing that here.

Spiderman6592
11-29-2011, 03:33 PM
All one needs to do is look at the Spidey dispenser to realize how suffering the quality and attention to detail of these dispensers are. Spidey looks terrible in comparison to his on screen counterpart, the same will likely be the case with the Lizard.


Sony, can you please release something now so I don't have to have this argument for the weeks until the trailer comes out? kthx

Spider-Who?
11-29-2011, 03:48 PM
1. Since its a front view, we don't know how long the snout is. Judgements shouldn't be made yet.

Exactly. Plus, its a PEZ dispenser, lol. The only thing we should be taking away from the design is that the lizard has two eyes, a mouth, and some shades of green.

2. The most memorable bits from Jurassic Park used animatronic dinosaurs, aka NOT CGI.

I disagree with this, and I think most other people would too. The first image that comes to mind for me is the shot of the T Rex tearing down the fence and walking between the two jeeps. All CGI, and incredible. Then there's also the first dino anyone sees - the Brachiosaur at the start. Then Grant and the kids being chase by the herd of gallis...

If something awesome can be achieved practically, that's always the way to go.

Fully agree.

socool
11-29-2011, 03:49 PM
What does that statement mean? I never said the Lizard was based on CGI. I said in this era, Hollywood uses CGI. And based on these pics, the design of the lizard looks like something they fashioned from MAKEUP AND APPLIANCES. When kids think of a lizard on a fantastic scale they think of Jurassic Park. So my point is, why are they designing a character that doesn't even compete with that basic foundation? So... back to my point... No one will care what the inspiration is if the final effect is lackluster and the audience can say, "I've seen better." 98% of ticket buyers will not care who Steve Ditko is. They want to be wowed for their money. Not get an illustrated guide on how the first artist designed him. If that was the case anyway, why aren't they giving that treatment to Spiderman first? This new version looks like a refurbished rubber Ultraman suit.


:yay:

:dry:

:csad:

You just based the reaction and look of The Lizard...in the movie...on the Pez Dispenser...Oh boy...

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 04:01 PM
^^ This.

SnuffTheRooster
11-29-2011, 04:33 PM
What kind morons let the big reveal of the movies only villain be a Pez dispenser? Seriously. The marketing department are seriously incompetent, at least they seem to be at this point.

MessiahDecoy123
11-29-2011, 04:36 PM
I'm hoping the Killer Croc version is not the final Lizard.

I prefer a Lizard who has almost completely lost his humanity.

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 04:37 PM
I hope that none of us are forgetting that RIM said that the Pez dispenser head is actually pretty accurate to what he saw in the SDCC footage?.

Of course it'll look better in the footage itself, but it's still a very good and basic idea of what he's going to look like.

Besides, it fits in with the more rounder head he seems to have in the SDCC footage and the Hasbro toy (even though that was a silhouette).

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 04:38 PM
What kind morons let the big reveal of the movies only villain be a Pez dispenser? Seriously. The marketing department are seriously incompetent, at least they seem to be at this point.

Lol. I kinda agree. While I don't think Sony's too phased about this, as they're going to release something within the next 2 weeks anyways... I do think that their plan has backfired. They should know by now that reveals of this kind are always leaked early in some form.

VenomSpawn
11-29-2011, 04:39 PM
I hope this teaches Sony not to try and keep these things a secret for so long.....

TheDragonator
11-29-2011, 04:40 PM
Our. Spy skills. Suck. Asssssssssss.

Spiderman6592
11-29-2011, 04:40 PM
I hope that none of us are forgetting that RIM said that the Pez dispenser head is actually pretty accurate to what he saw in the SDCC footage?.

Of course it'll look better in the footage itself, but it's still a very good and basic idea of what he's going to look like.

Besides, it fits in with the more rounder head he seems to have in the SDCC footage and the Hasbro toy (even though that was a silhouette).

The PrettyMuchIt guy said it was nothing like the PEZ render...


There are conflicting views on how accurate the PEZ dispenser render is, but even it is similar the quality is lacking either way. I mean, sure, the Spider-Man PEZ looks like the TASM Spidey...but it's certainly not high quality...

Godzilla2014
11-29-2011, 04:40 PM
Well that pez image is the best shot of the lizard I've seen so far and you know something? I quite like it! This may or may not be the final version but I like that they didn't go the full lizard dinosaur looking monster that we have seen over the recent years. My favourite version is actually the one they used in the 90's animated series but I will never be against a Ditko design.

Agreed.

What does that statement mean? I never said the Lizard was based on CGI. I said in this era, Hollywood uses CGI. And based on these pics, the design of the lizard looks like something they fashioned from MAKEUP AND APPLIANCES. When kids think of a lizard on a fantastic scale they think of Jurassic Park. So my point is, why are they designing a character that doesn't even compete with that basic foundation? So... back to my point... No one will care what the inspiration is if the final effect is lackluster and the audience can say, "I've seen better." 98% of ticket buyers will not care who Steve Ditko is. They want to be wowed for their money. Not get an illustrated guide on how the first artist designed him. If that was the case anyway, why aren't they giving that treatment to Spiderman first? This new version looks like a refurbished rubber Ultraman suit.

Because they don't want people to think, "So Spider-Man fights a Jurassic Park Velociraptor in this movie?"

A Lizard is not always supposed to look like a dinasour though.

Agreed.

Godzilla2014
11-29-2011, 04:42 PM
What kind morons let the big reveal of the movies only villain be a Pez dispenser? Seriously. The marketing department are seriously incompetent, at least they seem to be at this point.

Agreed.

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 04:46 PM
I hope this teaches Sony not to try and keep these things a secret for so long.....

:up:

The PrettyMuchIt guy said it was nothing like the PEZ render...


There are conflicting views on how accurate the PEZ dispenser render is, but even it is similar the quality is lacking either way. I mean, sure, the Spider-Man PEZ looks like the TASM Spidey...but it's certainly not high quality...

I just checked that video out. Hell, there are conflicting views on the Lizard in the footage itself. The PrettyMuchIt guy says that he has a much longer snout in the footage, others said he had a flatter snout in the footage. He also says he had a labcoat on in the footage, but he looks naked in the leaked stills. And I haven't heard anyone who's seen the footage mention a labcoat either.

Could somebody else who has actually seen the footage tell us how close the Pez head looks to the Lizard in the San Diego Comic Con footage?

Webhead38
11-29-2011, 04:47 PM
^^ This.

This coming from a guy who has been defending the Pez head... Okay debating hypothetical ideology doesn't work in this group. I based my opinions on the BASIC DESIGN and noted we couldn't weigh the totality of the final character until we've seen it. :doh:

RealIrOnMaN
11-29-2011, 04:48 PM
The PrettyMuchIt guy said it was nothing like the PEZ render...
It has the likeness that I saw in SDCC footage + unlike Eric, I don't remember ANY lab coat during the toilet scene (yeah, we've met at Comic-Con). Even Bleeding Cool is saying the same thing I've said yesterday = 'I can verify that the face of this Pez dispenser does indeed match the face of The Lizard as I saw it in early footage from The Amazing Spider-Man.'
(http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/29/spider-mans-movie-lizard-is-a-pez-dispenser-but-is-his-hand-a-gummy/)

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 04:49 PM
It has the likeness that I saw in SDCC footage + unlike Eric, I don't remember ANY lab coat during the toilet scene (yeah, we've met at Comic-Con). Even Bleeding Cool is saying the same thing I've said yesterday = 'I can verify that the face of this Pez dispenser does indeed match the face of The Lizard as I saw it in early footage from The Amazing Spider-Man.'
(http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/29/spider-mans-movie-lizard-is-a-pez-dispenser-but-is-his-hand-a-gummy/)

Well, Spiderman6592, there ya go.

Thanks, RIM! :D

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 04:50 PM
It has the likeness that I saw in SDCC footage + unlike Eric, I don't remember ANY lab coat during the toilet scene (yeah, we've met at Comic-Con). Even Bleeding Cool is saying the same thing I've said yesterday = 'I can verify that the face of this Pez dispenser does indeed match the face of The Lizard as I saw it in early footage from The Amazing Spider-Man.'
(http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/29/spider-mans-movie-lizard-is-a-pez-dispenser-but-is-his-hand-a-gummy/) There you go. :up:

VenomSpawn
11-29-2011, 04:50 PM
....what do we do now? The actual Lizard reveal that Sony has planned is probably going to be very underwhelming now that we've seen this.... :csad:

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 04:51 PM
Well, it'll still be really cool to see him in motion, lol.

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 04:51 PM
....what do we do now? The actual Lizard reveal that Sony has planned is probably going to be very underwhelming now that we've seen this.... :csad:

Nothing can beat the Pez dispenser head reveal!

Nothing! xD

Spiderman6592
11-29-2011, 04:53 PM
I can't believe we think seeing the Lizard living and breathing on a giant screen and in 3D will be underwhelming because of this...


Guys, regardless of whether or not the PEZ has the likeness of the Lizard or not, seeing his entire 9 foot body put an ass whipping on everything in sight will not be underwhelming...

Pac-Master
11-29-2011, 04:53 PM
Nothing can beat the Pez dispenser head reveal!

Nothing! xDI just thought of Alfred Molina in SM2. :hehe:

Webhead38
11-29-2011, 04:54 PM
Jurassic Park[/I] Velociraptor in this movie?"



Noooooo.... I didn't say that. That 'reality' has already been established. I said take the technology and build upon it. I didn't say take a rapter and put a lab coat on him. They've already made the perfect lizard in the wildlife. Now they have to build upon that and conceptualize it into something more.

VenomSpawn
11-29-2011, 04:55 PM
Nothing can beat the Pez dispenser head reveal!

Nothing! xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd9rACzLq-U&t=00m04s

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 04:57 PM
I just thought of Alfred Molina in SM2. :hehe:

:awesome:

I can't believe we think seeing the Lizard living and breathing on a giant screen and in 3D will be underwhelming because of this...


Guys, regardless of whether or not the PEZ has the likeness of the Lizard or not, seeing his entire 9 foot body put an ass whipping on everything in sight will not be underwhelming...

I'm still super excited for the actual reveal. I hope the trailer actually has a scene of him and Spidey going at it, rather than something like him growling and lunging at the screen. :|

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 04:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd9rACzLq-U&t=00m04s

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldp3jukzHo1qb9a2wo1_500.png

Spiderman6592
11-29-2011, 05:02 PM
I want to hear the Lizard's...roar? It better be scary as **** and not some generic yell like the Hulk's. I want it to be a mixture of a shriek and really low growl.


But yes, I want to see him in action as well. Though I wouldn't mind a Venom-eque ending to the trailer. Does everyone remember my trailer description? I hope it ends up like this:

*Fade into a laboratory with Dr. Connors featured. Quick cuts of him experimenting with different serums and tests with overlaying dialogue play*

Dr Connors: I've dedicated my life to this and finally the moment has come.

*Fade into a shot that is seemingly coming from a video camera*

Dr. Connors: Now I must ask myself. Are you ready to play God?

*Abrupt cuts to a transformation sequence without anything truly significant showing*
*Columbia Pictures*
*Fade into a scene featuring Uncle Ben and Peter in a school hallway*

Uncle Ben: Did it make you feel good beating that boy up? Do you feel like he deserved it?

*Quick cuts to Flash beating up Peter but finishing with Peter slamming Flash up against a locker*

Peter: Yes.

Uncle Ben: I've seen you grow up very quickly these past few weeks Peter but no matter how strong or how tough you become, you must always remember that with those things must also come responsibility.

*Quick cuts of Spidey beating up thugs and using his powers for good*
*Transition from the playful scenes of Spidey disposing of petty thugs into Captain Stacy announcing the warrant for Spider-Man's arrest*

Captain Stacy: From this day forward, the vigilante known as Spider-Man should be considered a threat to our community. Anyone with any information on his identity and/or whereabouts should contact the New York Police Department immediately.

*Cut to the Stacy household featuring Gwen and Captain Stacy in an argument*

Gwen: Dad he's doing what's right for this City. He's doing what you can't!
Captain Stacy: I do what I do with the reinforcement of my badge, he's hiding behind a mask. If he thinks what he's doing is right, why does he feel the need to hide?

*Cut to Midtown High featuring Gwen and Peter*

Gwen: I can't believe my dad is trying to arrest someone that's making his life easier.

*Gwen's dialogue fades out as a push pull effect kicks in with the camera focusing on Peter's face. Slow mo kicks in as we realize the Spider sense is going off. Gwen's dialogue fades back in.*

Gwen: Peter, what's going on?
Peter: Run.

*The Lizard busts through the wall behind Peter and we see quick cuts of Peter fighting the Lizard, again with nothing too revealing. Here we see a big montage of swinging, fighting, parkour'ing (?) and just a whole lot of Spidey goodness. During this we'll also see the "From Columbia Pictures" title screens, etc.*
*Suddenly we see Spidey lowering himself into a sewer via webline*

Peter: C'mon doc, where are you?

*We hear the Lizard roar as Spidey drops from his webline and turns around as the Lizard lunges at him*
*The Amazing Spider-Man title screen*

The End.

VenomSpawn
11-29-2011, 05:04 PM
Didn't some users here hear the Lizard's roar during a live stream during Comic-Con?

©KAW
11-29-2011, 05:11 PM
I hope this teaches Sony not to try and keep these things a secret for so long.....
It will not teach them, nor should it. It happens with every big film, something always gets leaked. The first leak of the Comic-Con footage pic was Sony's own fault, they are not phased by this in the least. Nor is there a need for damage control for a bunch of geeks who are going to see this movie regardless.

Spiderman6592
11-29-2011, 05:11 PM
I mean, I've been trying to dig up a recording of that audio for months but to no avail. I can't really remember hearing much of anything the quality was so horrid, but reading the descriptions while listening to the audio would probably help.


Anyone got any ideas where we might be able to find it?

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 05:14 PM
I vaguely remember the audio, lol.

Spiderman6592
11-29-2011, 05:19 PM
I want to listen again so badly.

VenomSpawn
11-29-2011, 05:33 PM
double, doh

VenomSpawn
11-29-2011, 05:34 PM
It's sad to say that this has pretty much been the Spidey boards for the past 6 months.

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I hope this changes soon.

AbsractPo3tic
11-29-2011, 05:45 PM
It will not teach them, nor should it. It happens with every big film, something always gets leaked. The first leak of the Comic-Con footage pic was Sony's own fault, they are not phased by this in the least. Nor is there a need for damage control for a bunch of geeks who are going to see this movie regardless.

Agreed. Especially when it's the same people who cursed the heavens when the red skull costume Halloween costume leaked, saying how awful it looked yet when the actual costume was shown on film, no complaints. If anything it'll make them put the hammer down on their licensing partners

.Rorschach.
11-29-2011, 05:47 PM
I love the look if that is in fact how he looks throughout the film.Reminds me of when the Lizard first came to be way back in the day.When he was more like a human with scales instead of a full blown lizard.

SnuffTheRooster
11-29-2011, 06:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd9rACzLq-U&t=00m04s

It's that damn Lizard! He's so hot right now!

PSYLENTGuardian
11-29-2011, 06:50 PM
I missed out on the audio back during Comic Con :csad:

Angel_Faerie
11-29-2011, 06:54 PM
So did I. Didn't even know there was audio

Troy_Parker
11-29-2011, 06:57 PM
You couldn't really hear **** all. :\

PSYLENTGuardian
11-29-2011, 06:59 PM
Yeah, I was happily travelling to San Diego when I saw all the posts here about the audio. Apparently the Lizard sounded frightening or something. It was nice to hear about it, at least.

VenomSpawn
11-29-2011, 06:59 PM
It's that damn Lizard! He's so hot right now!

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ITheSymbioteI
11-29-2011, 07:12 PM
I want to hear the Lizard's...roar? It better be scary as **** and not some generic yell like the Hulk's. I want it to be a mixture of a shriek and really low growl.


But yes, I want to see him in action as well. Though I wouldn't mind a Venom-eque ending to the trailer. Does everyone remember my trailer description? I hope it ends up like this:

*Fade into a laboratory with Dr. Connors featured. Quick cuts of him experimenting with different serums and tests with overlaying dialogue play*

Dr Connors: I've dedicated my life to this and finally the moment has come.

*Fade into a shot that is seemingly coming from a video camera*

Dr. Connors: Now I must ask myself. Are you ready to play God?

*Abrupt cuts to a transformation sequence without anything truly significant showing*
*Columbia Pictures*
*Fade into a scene featuring Uncle Ben and Peter in a school hallway*

Uncle Ben: Did it make you feel good beating that boy up? Do you feel like he deserved it?

*Quick cuts to Flash beating up Peter but finishing with Peter slamming Flash up against a locker*

Peter: Yes.

Uncle Ben: I've seen you grow up very quickly these past few weeks Peter but no matter how strong or how tough you become, you must always remember that with those things must also come responsibility.

*Quick cuts of Spidey beating up thugs and using his powers for good*
*Transition from the playful scenes of Spidey disposing of petty thugs into Captain Stacy announcing the warrant for Spider-Man's arrest*

Captain Stacy: From this day forward, the vigilante known as Spider-Man should be considered a threat to our community. Anyone with any information on his identity and/or whereabouts should contact the New York Police Department immediately.

*Cut to the Stacy household featuring Gwen and Captain Stacy in an argument*

Gwen: Dad he's doing what's right for this City. He's doing what you can't!
Captain Stacy: I do what I do with the reinforcement of my badge, he's hiding behind a mask. If he thinks what he's doing is right, why does he feel the need to hide?

*Cut to Midtown High featuring Gwen and Peter*

Gwen: I can't believe my dad is trying to arrest someone that's making his life easier.

*Gwen's dialogue fades out as a push pull effect kicks in with the camera focusing on Peter's face. Slow mo kicks in as we realize the Spider sense is going off. Gwen's dialogue fades back in.*

Gwen: Peter, what's going on?
Peter: Run.

*The Lizard busts through the wall behind Peter and we see quick cuts of Peter fighting the Lizard, again with nothing too revealing. Here we see a big montage of swinging, fighting, parkour'ing (?) and just a whole lot of Spidey goodness. During this we'll also see the "From Columbia Pictures" title screens, etc.*
*Suddenly we see Spidey lowering himself into a sewer via webline*

Peter: C'mon doc, where are you?

*We hear the Lizard roar as Spidey drops from his webline and turns around as the Lizard lunges at him*
*The Amazing Spider-Man title screen*

The End.

Honestly, to me, sometimes I feel like the lesser the amount of dialogue, the better. But other times, I want a decent amount of dialogue.

The reason I'm liking the former is because of the teaser. I was just watching it again and I couldn't help replaying it 3-4 times. Not because the teaser was awesome or anything (which imo it was), but more just because of a strange pull I felt to Garfield's acting. Maybe this is just me, but he only had like 5 words (other than the file line) in the trailer, but his expressions, and the lost look he had just made me wanna hit the replay.

Maybe it's just me being weird, but does anyone else feel that way watching the trailer?

Spider-ManHero12
11-29-2011, 07:22 PM
You couldn't really hear **** all. :\ Yeah, it sounded...crackily.

spideyguy16
11-29-2011, 07:30 PM
Only thing I remember was the begining where Dr. Curt Conners was introducing himself.
He had an accent which is an excellent touch if you ask me :D

Spider-Vader
11-29-2011, 08:08 PM
The thing is..............how is a lab coat supposed to stay on the Lizard if his body grows to be such a huge size? Obviously his lab coat will rip right off. I doubt it will stretch to his body size.

Unless his coat is just pieces of fabric clinging on here and there, that would be a very cool visual.

How do Hulk's pants stay on?

It's sad to say that this has pretty much been the Spidey boards for the past 6 months.

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I hope this changes soon.

That's every forum ever. Not going to change. On July 4, we'll all be begging for news on the sequel! :awesome:

Curmudgeon
11-29-2011, 08:12 PM
Honestly, to me, sometimes I feel like the lesser the amount of dialogue, the better. But other times, I want a decent amount of dialogue.

The reason I'm liking the former is because of the teaser. I was just watching it again and I couldn't help replaying it 3-4 times. Not because the teaser was awesome or anything (which imo it was), but more just because of a strange pull I felt to Garfield's acting. Maybe this is just me, but he only had like 5 words (other than the file line) in the trailer, but his expressions, and the lost look he had just made me wanna hit the replay.

Maybe it's just me being weird, but does anyone else feel that way watching the trailer?

I do. Not just with Garfield though. There were a lot of subtle, captivating things being done by all the actors. I can't wait to see the performances in this movie.

webhead9707
11-29-2011, 09:01 PM
How do Hulk's pants stay on?



That's every forum ever. Not going to change. On July 4, we'll all be begging for news on the sequel! :awesome:

Large women's elastic pants. found that out in The Incredible Hulk Novelization.xD

Nightwatcher11
11-29-2011, 09:18 PM
I feel like this film is going to be the Batman Begins of Spiderman films, what I mean is one that makes us so emotionally attached that it hits home. The last films I feel tried to prove something and succeeded: Spiderman is a fantastic character that deserves to be seen and heard. The teaser hit me emotionally like the TDKR teaser did. I'm so eager to see what's in store for us. :)

WarriorDreamer
11-29-2011, 10:46 PM
http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/image/Lizard_4.jpg

The Lizard might look like this mid transformation. At least I hope he does. I wasn't aware of mid transformation Lizard before the concepts for the film but I do like the idea of it.

GoldGoblin
11-30-2011, 01:14 AM
When is the trailer coming out?

Goran
11-30-2011, 02:13 AM
When is the trailer coming out?

Never!














;)

AnneFan
11-30-2011, 03:40 AM
Never!
You could've written 'soon' and the meaning would've been the same. :woot:

Sharkboy
11-30-2011, 05:32 AM
You could've written 'soon' and the meaning would've been the same. :woot:

"soon"...:csad:

Mako
11-30-2011, 06:13 AM
Don't know if it's been posted but pparently this is concept art for the Lizard :wow:
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2246/lizard3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/lizard3.jpg/)

White_Knight191
11-30-2011, 06:14 AM
First concept art from The Lizard!

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/2246/lizard3.jpg

Edit, nvmd. :oldrazz:

Mako
11-30-2011, 06:15 AM
I posted it a page back but still :wow:

White_Knight191
11-30-2011, 06:19 AM
I posted it a page back but still :wow:

Yeah, I know. :P You were first... :hehe:

Now the concept art, I like it, but I wanna see a shot from the side so we can see the profile of his face. Because I hope he still has the snout later on...

Oscorp
11-30-2011, 06:19 AM
Looks creepy and...weird :S

Mako
11-30-2011, 06:22 AM
Yeah, I know. :P You were first... :hehe:

Now the concept art, I like it, but I wanna see a shot from the side so we can see the profile of his face. Because I hope he still has the snout later on...

Yea def. I don't mind this look to much (reminds me of Ditko's Lizard) but I'm hoping this is just a mid transformation, the leaked screenshot from SDCC looked like a had a snout which is what I'm hoping for :)

Oscorp
11-30-2011, 06:26 AM
Yeah he looks almost TOO human in that concept art if you ask me

White_Knight191
11-30-2011, 06:26 AM
The body is perfect imo, and I love the fact that he has a long tail. And like Mako said, I like the head but I'm hoping this is in mid transformation.

NickerNacker
11-30-2011, 06:27 AM
All I'm wondering is...where is the lab coat?

White_Knight191
11-30-2011, 06:32 AM
All I'm wondering is...where is the lab coat?

Probably ripped off during his transformation.
Tbh, I don't really care if he has one or not. But remember guys, this is CONCEPT art, it's not 100% sure if this is the final look.

AnneFan
11-30-2011, 06:33 AM
Interesting. The skin pattern looks good. I wouldn't want to be scratched by those claws, that's for sure.

Oscorp
11-30-2011, 06:33 AM
I hope it's not. While I love the design on the PEZ, on this picture his face looks way too human if you ask me. His teeth ain't even sharp and he should have a wider, more grinning mouth with just a little longer snout.

EDIT: And I don't want him to be fully naked

Spider-Fan83
11-30-2011, 06:37 AM
looks good...
a little disappointed that he's naked, tho

but, it is just concept art

craigdbfan
11-30-2011, 06:50 AM
Don't know if it's been posted but pparently this is concept art for the Lizard :wow:
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2246/lizard3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/lizard3.jpg/)Great find Mako.

I actually find it quite eerie and unsettling something the Lizard should evoke from the audience I would think.

Just hope he turns a bit more monstrous throughout the film and his eyes become less and less human.

Krumm
11-30-2011, 07:14 AM
I saw that pic and immediately thought of this

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/msbillen/BadGoomba1.jpg

Webhead38
11-30-2011, 07:33 AM
Looks like Pez was right. :doh: God that sucks... Sony is there ANYTHING left to destroy from this franchise? You have taken the most successful hero franchise and reduced it down to an unrecognizable piece of generic fluff. Unbelievable...

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 07:43 AM
It's concept art. Dude, Webhead38, you might be worse than KAW in being an irrational and judgmental **** ever.


That being said, I love it. However, I think he'll be more bulked up and more...real, for lack of a better word. I mean, you can tell that's drawn, I have a feeling he'll be bigger and we'll be able to see more realistic qualities in him when he's moving and in action. Count me as very satisfied with this.

Webhead38
11-30-2011, 07:49 AM
It's concept art. Dude, Webhead38, you might be worse than KAW in being an irrational and judgmental **** ever.

I'm irrational? Their already manufacturing toys that match this artwork and you think it's still in the conceptual department? :wow: Good God son. Open your eyes and understand this is finished product. If there is anyone living in denial it is YOU. And by the way, whether you like it or not, it's a judgement. So don't forget to place that judgement label on your t-shirt as well. :whatever:

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 07:52 AM
What dya know? He looks a lot like the Pez head. And no labcoat. :P

I like it, looks good.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 07:53 AM
There are all kinds of ideas and descriptions floating around about this. Some say it's a certain stage, some are saying it doesn't look like him at all (in terms of the PEZ) and some are saying he's way bigger. Open your eyes and look at the leaked pictures. His mouth is way bigger and his physique is larger as well.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp6d3xpysJ1qzo25f.png

His shoulders and arms are massive. In the concept art he looks relatively lean. Who knows what the story is, but I'm not convinced that's the final product, or at least, not the only version of the Lizard in the film.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 07:55 AM
Looks like Pez was right. :doh: God that sucks... Sony is there ANYTHING left to destroy from this franchise? You have taken the most successful hero franchise and reduced it down to an unrecognizable piece of generic fluff. Unbelievable...

Chill.

After seeing Spidey's suit, were you expecting a 100% faithful representation of the Lizard? At least with this version of the Lizard you can actually TELL that it's part human.

Chris Nolan almost always changes origins and visuals of villains before using them in his movies... and look at how successful they've been.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 07:57 AM
^This.


However, we now have to cue the, "YEAH SO IT'S JUST A RIP OFF OF CHRIS NOLAN SO IT SUCKS!", lines. Some people will never be satisfied. It's pathetic to the point where Webhead38 will probably automatically hate this movie, no matter how good it really is, because Sony has reduced it to "an unrecognizable piece of generic fluff."

:facepalm:

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 07:58 AM
There are all kinds of ideas and descriptions floating around about this. Some say it's a certain stage, some are saying it doesn't look like him at all (in terms of the PEZ) and some are saying he's way bigger. Open your eyes and look at the leaked pictures. His mouth is way bigger and his physique is larger as well.

His shoulders and arms are massive. In the concept art he looks relatively lean. Who knows what the story is, but I'm not convinced that's the final product, or at least, not the only version of the Lizard in the film.

In the blurry as **** screenshot where he might as well be a green blob, his arms and shoulders look massive, you say? :oldrazz:

I'm willing to bet that this is the final version. I haven't seen any others where he looks drastically different. I'd love to see a more primal version taking over during the final battle, but I doubt it.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 08:00 AM
You honestly can't make out the silhouette of his physique? You need glasses, boy.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 08:01 AM
^This.


However, we now have to cue the, "YEAH SO IT'S JUST A RIP OFF OF CHRIS NOLAN SO IT SUCKS!"

:facepalm:

We'll always get those people. :csad:

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 08:02 AM
You honestly can't make out the silhouette of his physique? You need glasses, boy.

I used to wear them, but then I got bit by a spider.

Seriously though, he does look a little bigger in that screenshot. But still, it's concept art. He may look exactly the same in the movie, just bulkier.

Do you think we'll be seeing the labcoat?

Webhead38
11-30-2011, 08:03 AM
There are all kinds of ideas and descriptions floating around about this. Some say it's a certain stage, some are saying it doesn't look like him at all (in terms of the PEZ) and some are saying he's way bigger. Open your eyes and look at the leaked pictures. His mouth is way bigger and his physique is larger as well.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp6d3xpysJ1qzo25f.png

His shoulders and arms are massive. In the concept art he looks relatively lean. Who knows what the story is, but I'm not convinced that's the final product, or at least, not the only version of the Lizard in the film.

There is no discernible difference between that artwork and this shadowy shot. Your interpreting shadow as bulk and creating an image in your mind that isn't there. The only difference I see is he's making an expression in the movie shot and is more stoic in the artwork. That's about it. And ask yourself this question - Why would Sony fan the flames of discontent over this version if it's only a mid-transformation shot or conceptual? They wouldn't. They would show finished product. And that's what they did. This website is infamous for diluting or over-hyping stories with misleading headlines to get the fan boards squawking. Don;t let them fool you. That's finished artwork which will likely be on posters and toy packaging.

ITheSymbioteI
11-30-2011, 08:05 AM
My theory:

Connors becomes more of a monster with every transformation.

First time he takes the serum, his hand grows, but the serum wears off of something.

Second time, he gets scales on his arm, up his neck etc

Third time, he becomes a humanoid Lizard, and well...you get the point.

I think this is the Lizard we'll see for most of the movie until the end, where he has taken the serum too many times, and transforms into the big snout Lizard. Just a theory though, I may be wrong.

Peter_Parker123
11-30-2011, 08:09 AM
I hope there's a scene like this:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6644/amazingspiderman006.jpg

Webhead38
11-30-2011, 08:12 AM
My theory:

Connors becomes more of a monster with every transformation.

First time he takes the serum, his hand grows, but the serum wears off of something.

Second time, he gets scales on his arm, up his neck etc

Third time, he becomes a humanoid Lizard, and well...you get the point.

I think this is the Lizard we'll see for most of the movie until the end, where he has taken the serum too many times, and transforms into the big snout Lizard. Just a theory though, I may be wrong.

I think they could be following the same story idea as the FLY. So by the time he becomes a full lizard, his mind and reasoning is gone and that's where Spiderman kills him. Which means you don't really ever get the Lizard as we know him. Just a momentary hybrid to say they did and then he's finished off. That would also fit the story pattern of Two-Face in Dark Knight. That sounds like Sony following formula so I would have to believe you are right.

ITheSymbioteI
11-30-2011, 08:15 AM
Looks like Pez was right. :doh: God that sucks... Sony is there ANYTHING left to destroy from this franchise? You have taken the most successful hero franchise and reduced it down to an unrecognizable piece of generic fluff. Unbelievable...

LOL. Calm the ***** down. You dont like the way Lizard looks? Fine.

But first, have you seen it in motion yet? Heck, have you seen the movie yet? Don't overreact just 'cause you do not like something.

It's funny how people like you just assume that just because things don't like how you wanted, the movie will suck. Wait to watch the goddamn movie or at least the trailer.

If you don't like something, great. Voice ur opinion. But don't start overreacting like an immature kid.


PS: THAT Lizard looks more like the original thought of what the Lizard was supposed to be: HALF MAN - HALF LIZARD. The later versions, big snout and all, look like just a monster, no man.

itsleroy
11-30-2011, 08:20 AM
I hope this leaked concept art is just a stage of the Lizard's transformation. Not liking his face one bit, looks really off.

Peter_Parker123
11-30-2011, 08:21 AM
LOL. Calm the ***** down. You dont like the way Lizard looks? Fine.

But first, have you seen it in motion yet? Heck, have you seen the movie yet? Don't overreact just 'cause you do not like something.

It's funny how people like you just assume that just because things don't like how you wanted, the movie will suck. Wait to watch the goddamn movie or at least the trailer.

If you don't like something, great. Voice ur opinion. But don't start overreacting like an immature kid.


PS: THAT Lizard looks more like the original thought of what the Lizard was supposed to be: HALF MAN - HALF LIZARD. The later versions, bit snout and all, look like just a monster, no man.


This.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 08:26 AM
Don't know if it's been posted but pparently this is concept art for the Lizard :wow:
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2246/lizard3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/lizard3.jpg/) He looks really cool!

Webhead38
11-30-2011, 08:26 AM
LOL. Calm the ***** down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp8Afm2XolE&feature=related

:oldrazz:

Doctor Jones
11-30-2011, 08:26 AM
Well it's a good thing that it's early concept art. Because that it underwhelming.

That person
11-30-2011, 08:27 AM
Only thing I remember was the begining where Dr. Curt Conners was introducing himself.
He had an accent which is an excellent touch if you ask me :D

What kind of accent?

I really dig the Lizard concept btw. I'd be totally cool if the finished product looks like that.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 08:27 AM
I hope there's a scene like this:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6644/amazingspiderman006.jpg Same here, man. I hope there are many nods to certain stories.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 08:30 AM
I just hope he does wear a lab caot as some point. I don't want him to be fully naked.

itsleroy
11-30-2011, 08:34 AM
Where's the Lizard's penis?

This concept art not be getting stuff right :nono:.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 08:35 AM
Do we know for sure that this is an early conceptual design?

webhead921
11-30-2011, 08:40 AM
I'm liking that they went with the ditko-esque look. I still hope he wears some tattered clothes though.

Mako
11-30-2011, 08:43 AM
Do we know for sure that this is an early conceptual design?

Hasn't been confirmed if it is or not.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 08:46 AM
I see.

VenomSpawn
11-30-2011, 08:59 AM
I really love that concept art. And what I love even more is that we're actually getting Lizard related stuff now.

Gamma Goliath
11-30-2011, 09:03 AM
give that concept a tattered lab coat and a set of shredded clothes and were good.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 09:04 AM
To be honest, I'm questioning the legitimacy of this. Methinks that someone got creative in photoshop or something and created their own version of the Lizard. I mean, the face on the concept art and the Pez are identical. I mean, sure, the PEZ is based on the Lizard, but literally every feature is identical, even though in the SDCC footage the facial features are clearly quite different as is the coloring. The Lizard was stated as having a long, and grisly smile that is noticeably lacking as well as yellow-ish skin on his chin that is also lacking in the concept art. I dunno, I'm not fully buying it yet.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:05 AM
He looks really cool, I guess.

What's wrong? He looks like the leaked screens and the Pez head anyways. :oldrazz:

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 09:06 AM
What's wrong? He looks like the leaked screens and the Pez head anyways. :oldrazz: Well, I don't wwant him to be naked thorughotu the whoel film, lol. I hope he has some sort of clothes even if it's just for part of the time.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:09 AM
Well, I don't wwant him to be naked thorughotu the whoel film, lol. I hope he has some sort of clothes even if it's just for part of the time.

I think he'll have them on in maybe his first transformation into the Lizard. Tatters of his labcoat and whatnot that he shrugs off or something. It'd be a cool little wink to his look in the comics.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 09:10 AM
I think he'll have them on in maybe his first transformation into the Lizard. Tatters of his labcoat and whatnot that he shrugs off or something. It'd be a cool little wink to his look in the comics. That would be cool.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:11 AM
Well it's a good thing that it's early concept art. Because that it underwhelming.

We have absolutely nothing that says this is early concept art. If anything, it proves that this is the final look.

It's consistent with the Lizard's descriptions from the SDCC footage, the Lizard screenshots from the SDCC footage, the Pez head and the Hasbro toy silhouette.

©KAW
11-30-2011, 09:13 AM
Not consistent with that huge ass Lizard in front of those two girls in the leaked pic, that thing didn't look human at all to me.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:16 AM
And it's consistent with the front shot.

He looked like he had a snout in the side view, but people said that was because he had his neck stuck out.

Sharkboy
11-30-2011, 09:17 AM
Has anyone posted this yet? Because I really hope I'm late to the joke and im not the only one who thought of this.

http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/6/6f/Goombamovie.jpg

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 09:18 AM
^^ It's been posted, lol

Sharkboy
11-30-2011, 09:18 AM
I saw that pic and immediately thought of this

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/msbillen/BadGoomba1.jpg

You absolute legend, I love you!

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 09:20 AM
I mean, we seem to forget the initial reports. Here are a few quotes:

The character was reported to have a massive, muscled body, with a flat face and a long tongue

The character goes back to the original Ditko look, though the character’s body is much more muscular

MASSIVE CGI creature WHOA! At least twice the size of a human, giant, very scaly and green.

He's massive, but a bit more human-looking than the regular comic-book design. He actually looks a lot like killer croc, with a vaguely human face.

The concept art doesn't match the overwhelmingly unanimous notion that he is massive and muscular. The concept art also features a very human face, as opposed to the vaguely human face that viewers saw.

I dunno, I'm not convinced we're looking at the final product.

craigaat
11-30-2011, 09:22 AM
I don't see what the problem is with that concept art. He looks like lizard and Rhys Ifans is a great actor. Personally I'd like the lizard to show emotion when he's transformed, if he has a humanoid face then he'll be able to convey more emotions than if he just had a lizard's head.

I swear people just moan for the sake of it.

Sharkboy
11-30-2011, 09:23 AM
Joking aside, i really like it. It's old school, I cringed when i heard that lizard was going to the villain because I thought he'd have a big snout type face which would pretty much make him a velociraptor with a white coat. It's good this way, he looks menacing, but with a hint of empathetic humanity still left in him. Good work lads.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:23 AM
I mean, we seem to forget the initial reports. Here are a few quotes:

The concept art doesn't match the overwhelmingly unanimous notion that he is massive and muscular. The concept art also features a very human face, as opposed to the vaguely human face that viewers saw.

I dunno, I'm not convinced we're looking at the final product.

That's the thing. It's extremely subjective. Now, yesterday, you said that someone said that the Pez head looks nothing like the Lizard in the footage. RIM said it does and he posted a link to BleedingCool, who also confirmed that it does.

Now, this concept art looks pretty damn alike to the Pez head...

So, who to believe?

©KAW
11-30-2011, 09:25 AM
And it's consistent with the front shot.

He looked like he had a snout in the side view, but people said that was because he had his neck stuck out.
My point was he was freakin' huge and didn't look human.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:26 AM
Yep.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 09:26 AM
I don't know, but people that were at SDCC disagreed with RIM and BleedingCool as well. It's unfortunate that SDCC was almost 6 months ago because people are probably mixing up what they saw. I'm not saying anyone is wrong, but it's hard to tell what's accurate or not anymore. All I know is that the concept art doesn't look all that massive. The face might be accurate, but I'm expecting the physique to be a lot bigger. The other thing putting me off from buying it is that the mouth is not grisly. It looks like a normal human mouth and it doesn't seem like a long tongue could fit in there. I still like the look a lot, but I'm not sure I'm convinced of its legitimacy.


http://c181321.r21.cf0.rackcdn.com/PHvaSSHDXhNCzD_1_m.jpg

http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/11/spider-man-lizard-concept-art.jpg

Like look there. His mouth extends back behind his eyes. The concept art is not consistent with it at all. So they either changed the look since SDCC, or the concept art fan art is based off the PEZ dispenser which is what I'm beginning to believe.

Actually, now that I look at them side by side, there's literally no similarities between the two. I mean, the SDCC pic is blurry as ****, but just the configuration of the facial features hold no similarities.

Sharkboy
11-30-2011, 09:28 AM
I mean, we seem to forget the initial reports. Here are a few quotes:









The concept art doesn't match the overwhelmingly unanimous notion that he is massive and muscular. The concept art also features a very human face, as opposed to the vaguely human face that viewers saw.

I dunno, I'm not convinced we're looking at the final product.

You aren't convinced mainly because of his size, but we have no point of reference in the concept art to determine how big he actually is, besides you are arguing about semantics, "vaguely" human, that face could be described as vaguely human by pretty much anyone. Again im not fully convinced it's the final look either, but im not seeing any concrete evidence that it's not pretty damn close. I doubt any change from here on out would be all that noticeable.

Mrpaul
11-30-2011, 09:28 AM
looks like early stage transformation

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:29 AM
I don't know, but people that were at SDCC disagreed with RIM and BleedingCool as well. It's unfortunate that SDCC was almost 6 months ago because people are probably mixing up what they saw. I'm not saying anyone is wrong, but it's hard to tell what's accurate or not anymore. All I know is that the concept art doesn't look all that massive. The face might be accurate, but I'm expecting the physique to be a lot bigger. The other thing putting me off from buying it is that the mouth is not grisly. It looks like a normal human mouth and it doesn't seem like a long tongue could fit in there. I still like the look a lot, but I'm not sure I'm convinced of its legitimacy.

Closed mouth. His mouth will open wider, look at the splits on the sides of his face.

It's real, but I do agree that he'll look more bigger in the movie, essentially... it's what we're going to be seeing. You can count on that.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:31 AM
Like look there. His mouth extends back behind his eyes. The concept art is not consistent with it at all. So they either changed the look since SDCC, or the concept art fan art is based off the PEZ dispenser which is what I'm beginning to believe.

People said that it looks like his face/head is longer in that picture because he had his neck stuck out.

You can just barely make out any details in that picture as it is. lol

Eggyman
11-30-2011, 09:31 AM
I like the concept stuff. Tail, check. Green, check. Claws that can rip you a new one, check. It's on the last page so I'm gonna go back and look again. BRB.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 09:32 AM
That's the thing. It's extremely subjective. Now, yesterday, you said that someone said that the Pez head looks nothing like the Lizard in the footage. RIM said it does and he posted a link to BleedingCool, who also confirmed that it does.

Now, this concept art looks pretty damn alike to the Pez head...

So, who to believe? This is all so confusing, lol. I do think this is the final product though.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 09:32 AM
I'm not saying his snout is longer. I'm saying the mouth is way bigger in the leaked picture. I mean, it's not even close.

Eggyman
11-30-2011, 09:36 AM
He's hiding his genitals. Scaled for her pleasure.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 09:39 AM
he's hiding his genitals. Scaled for her pleasure. lol!

©KAW
11-30-2011, 09:42 AM
I dunno, I'm not convinced we're looking at the final product.
In a way you are, my guess is there's three stages. We've already seen one in the leaked photo, with Connor looking mostly human with a slight scaly face.
http://c181321.r21.cf0.rackcdn.com/PHkGsM5ukArnnr_1_m.jpg

Then there's the Pez design/Concept Art which is Connor further along in his transformation than the one above.

Then, there's this, I don't care what anyone says, this thing does not look human at all. Which is probably the final stage. My guess is, that The Lizard will be mostly be seen in his second stage allowing the actor, to be both Connors and The Lizard...but during his final stage he'll look like this (translation, used for the big action scenes):
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp6d3qAnrK1qzo25f.jpg

RealIrOnMaN
11-30-2011, 09:43 AM
That Lizard pic is just a promotional art for the movie, that got leaked by someone, I would rather not mention. The actual, live action, Lizard looks way better, bigger and scarier, than the one on the promo art.

Sad to see things getting leaked. Methinks Sony should just get over with it and release the goddamn trailer (+ same goes for Beenox).

Eggyman
11-30-2011, 09:44 AM
Let the world know that I agree with Kaw!

We have photographic evidence and I dare you to ignore it!

Too much sugar today :)

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 09:45 AM
See! I ****ing called that! Thanks RIM for proving me right!

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 09:46 AM
That Lizard pic is just a promotional art for the movie, that got leaked by someone, I would rather not mention. The actual, live action, Lizard looks way better, bigger and scarier, than the one on the promo art.

Sad to see things getting leaked. Methinks Sony should just get over with it and release the goddamn trailer (+ same goes for Beenox). Ahhh, I see.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:46 AM
That Lizard pic is just a promotional art for the movie, that got leaked by someone, I would rather not mention. The actual, live action, Lizard looks way better, bigger and scarier, than the one on the promo art.

Sad to see things getting leaked. Methinks Sony should just get over with it and release the goddamn trailer (+ same goes for Beenox).

As far as it goes as being a representation of what his face looks like, how close would you say it is to what he looks like in the movie?

Considering it's promo art for the movie, I'm guessing it's not that far off. lol

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 09:47 AM
He said he looks better, bigger, and scarier. I'm going to go ahead and say it's a very low quality representation of what he actually looks like. Similar to the PEZ dispenser.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 09:47 AM
Considering it's promo art for the movie, I'm guessing it's not that far off. lol Remember the concept art of Venom that leaked back in 2006? It was slightly different than the film version. I think that's probably the case here.

©KAW
11-30-2011, 09:48 AM
Sad to see things getting leaked. Methinks Sony should just get over with it and release the goddamn trailer (+ same goes for Beenox).I agree.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:49 AM
See! I ****ing called that! Thanks RIM for proving me right!

I didn't see him saying that his mouth would be bigger. Or that the picture was "concept fan art".

He only confirmed what we were all thinking, he'll look better in the actual movie. lol

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 09:50 AM
I'm not that surrpised that all this stuff is leaking out, lol. Sony has a history with things like that happening.

RealIrOnMaN
11-30-2011, 09:50 AM
Considering it's promo art for the movie, I'm guessing it's not that far off. lol
Dude, it's not even close to what was shown in that SDCC footage. That thing (yes, it's damn scary) was huge, deadly and sinister.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 09:51 AM
Did I not say that he looked bigger and different from the looks of the leaked photos? No one agreed with me. In fact, you were the one that responded that what I was pointing out as bulky and huge shoulders was in fact a "blurry blob".


Thank you again RIM. It might not be fan art, but it still isn't an accurate representation of what he really looks like which is what my point was...

webhead9707
11-30-2011, 09:52 AM
Dude, it's not even close to what was shown in that SDCC footage. That thing (yes, it's damn scary) was huge, deadly and sinister.

Are you allowed to confirm/deny that he will have different stages, getting more reptilian as the movie goes along? I don't know if you would even know that but I thought I might as well ask.:yay:

craigaat
11-30-2011, 09:53 AM
My guess:

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/9186/lizzyk.png

Light Blue = Regular 'human' mouth opening
Darker Blue = Big lizard style mouth

Compare it with the original image, I think that's what it looks like.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:54 AM
Dude, it's not even close to what was shown in that SDCC footage. That thing (yes, it's damn scary) was huge, deadly and sinister.

How about the face itself? What's stumping me is that you said that the Pez head looked pretty much exactly like the Lizard in the SDCC footage, but now you're saying that this promo art, where his face looks pretty much EXACTLY like the Pez head, he doesn't even look close to the SDCC footage. :|

Again, thanks for everything. :woot:

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 09:54 AM
Most people made it sound that way. The lizard serum has been described as an addictive substance that Connors gets hooked on.


And Troy, the PEZ dispenser looks accurate, for a PEZ dispenser. All you need to look at is the leaked photos to understand that there is a pretty adequate amount of attention to detail missing.

RealIrOnMaN
11-30-2011, 09:56 AM
different stages, getting more reptilian as the movie goes along
Is it like some kind of fan theory or something, because, to be honest, it's the first time I hear about some kind of evolution of the Lizard or some stages of transformation. I mean, I thought, seeing SDCC footage, that there's no need for the Lizard to be transformed.

It's not like we're dealing with the Ultimate version of the Green Goblin (when he goes through 3 stages of transformation).

Eggyman
11-30-2011, 09:57 AM
RIM.

Are you aware of SONY having any nerves or confidence issues with the product? I only ask this because of reactions to the leak and such. If it's all on schedule and everyone is happy, I'll be quiet. With the leak, and the lack of news... you know what I'm saying. I'm not one of those fans that cannot wait. I'm in no rush. The film is out when it's out. I'd just like to double check with you that the lack of news is as planned and not because of internal worries about the product.

Thanks.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 09:58 AM
Dude, it's not even close to what was shown in that SDCC footage. That thing (yes, it's damn scary) was huge, deadly and sinister. Oh.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 09:58 AM
I think many people are going by the somewhat confusing footage descriptions that described the transformation as gradual. Some people are taking a gradual transformation to mean that he transforms into a more intense beast every time he transforms, but I think gradual means that he gets his arm back, develops scales, loses his arm again and then goes full lizard, all in one transformation.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 09:59 AM
And Troy, the PEZ dispenser looks accurate, for a PEZ dispenser. All you need to look at is the leaked photos to understand that there is a pretty adequate amount of attention to detail missing.

You mean the cheap little toy isn't exactly how he'll look in the movie? :oldrazz:

I get that, I'd just like some perspective from someone who's seen the footage.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 10:00 AM
I think many people are going by the somewhat confusing footage descriptions that described the transformation as gradual. Some people are taking a gradual transformation to mean that he transforms into a more intense beast every time he transforms, but I think gradual means that he gets his arm back, develops scales, loses his arm again and then goes full lizard, all in one transformation. Yeah, good point. Tbh, this "Lizard transformation" theory has been going on since 2007.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 10:01 AM
And I'm trying to tell you that it's likely pretty different. Just look at the leaked pictures man. The geometric properties of the respective faces are very different.

RealIrOnMaN
11-30-2011, 10:03 AM
How about the face itself? What's stumping me is that you said that the Pez head looked pretty much exactly like the Lizard in the SDCC footage, but now you're saying that this promo art, where his face looks pretty much EXACTLY like the Pez head, he doesn't even look close to the SDCC footage. :|

Again, thanks for everything. :woot:
I don't know man, but it's definitely not the same. That's the thing about promo art in general: it could be similar to the final product or bear some resemblance to it, but in the end - it's just not going to be the same. For example, let's take Iron Man 2 (Mark VI armor):

* Promo art (http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3765/20111130160138.png)
* Final (movie) version (http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/233/53317135.jpg)

webhead9707
11-30-2011, 10:04 AM
Is it like some kind of fan theory or something, because, to be honest, it's the first time I hear about some kind of evolution of the Lizard or some stages of transformation. I mean, I thought, seeing SDCC footage, that there's no need for the Lizard to be transformed.

It's not like we're dealing with the Ultimate version of the Green Goblin (when he goes through 3 stages of transformation).

It's based on the evolution of the design from the leaked pictures we've seen. in one, Connors looks mostly human but green and scaly, but he still is clearly rhys ifans, then we have the concept art, pez and the VERY shady photo, which has him looking like a monster, but still clearly humanish, and then we have the leaked pictures of him in the bathroom with the girls, where he has a slight snout and is FAR from human.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 10:05 AM
And I'm trying to tell you that it's likely pretty different. Just look at the leaked pictures man. The geometric properties of the respective faces are very different.

Could you stop telling me the same thing over and over again? I've looked at them. :dry:

I can see the differences. It's the conflicting views that's confusing me.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 10:07 AM
I don't know man, but it's definitely not the same. That's the thing about promo art in general: it could be similar to the final product or bear some resemblance to it, but in the end - it's just not going to be the same. For example, let's take Iron Man 2 (Mark VI armor):

* Promo art (http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3765/20111130160138.png)
* Final (movie) version (http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/233/53317135.jpg)

Those two actually do look pretty darn similar to one another though. :funny: Apart from some minor details and colour differences... :|

Have you seen the final product?

It's cool if you're not allowed to say or something. xD

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 10:07 AM
I don't see what's conflicting about it. One is from the movie. Literally footage from the movie. The other is art. Isn't it pretty conclusive which is accurate and which is less so? I'm missing the disconnect.

RealIrOnMaN
11-30-2011, 10:08 AM
RIM.

Are you aware of SONY having any nerves or confidence issues with the product? I only ask this because of reactions to the leak and such. If it's all on schedule and everyone is happy, I'll be quiet. With the leak, and the lack of news... you know what I'm saying. I'm not one of those fans that cannot wait. I'm in no rush. The film is out when it's out. I'd just like to double check with you that the lack of news is as planned and not because of internal worries about the product.

Thanks.
Sure, man. I've contacted them on the whole Pez buzz thingy 2 days ago (had no idea that someone would have a nerve to leak some promo art), but I still didn't get any reply. Would love to tell you more on that, but right now - I know as much as you do (in terms of whether the leaks are affecting anything or not).

And I'll try to find out more about the trailer's release on 6-7th of December, when they're going to premiere some new neat stuff on Movie Expo.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 10:09 AM
edit

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 10:10 AM
RIM, you're the ****ing balls man.

Eggyman
11-30-2011, 10:11 AM
Sure, man. I've contacted them on the whole Pez buzz thingy 2 days ago (had no idea that someone would have a nerve to leak some promo art), but I still didn't get any reply. Would love to tell you more on that, but right now - I know as much as you do (in terms of whether the leaks are affecting anything or not).

And I'll try to find out more about the trailer's release on 6-7th of December, when they're going to premiere some new neat stuff on Movie Expo.

Thanks, mate. I love what I've seen so far, but I understand that nerves could come into play when rebooting such a popular franchise. I was just curious. Thanks for all of you effort in here.

spida-man
11-30-2011, 10:12 AM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/373891_10150494873934804_364544669803_10713130_106 544097_n.jpg
niceeee

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 10:15 AM
I don't see what's conflicting about it. One is from the movie. Literally footage from the movie. The other is art. Isn't it pretty conclusive which is accurate and which is less so? I'm missing the disconnect.

...The conflicting views on how accurate it looks to the movie version. Yesterday, RIM said that the Pez head looks pretty damn accurate to the SDCC footage. Today, he says that the promo art, where the Lizard looks pretty much bang on how he did in the Pez head, looks nothing like the SDCC footage.

You keep mentioning the leaked screens. There's like 2 extremely shadowed and just in general, bad shots, that are side views, where it LOOKS like he has a larger mouth than he does in the new pictures.

In the front view, which is also shadowed, apart from looking much more larger, his face is rounder and consistent with the general look of him in the new pictures. Unless the SDCC footage was from 2 different scenes completely, I'm going to go ahead and make a crazy assumption that his head/mouth looks bigger because he's sticking his neck out in the side shots.

We already know his mouth's going to be bigger. Just look at the craigaat's picture.

BobbyCorwin88
11-30-2011, 10:20 AM
I hate being late to the party.

Sad face...

craigaat
11-30-2011, 10:27 AM
Check my last post, I'm totally right.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 10:28 AM
Troy, him sticking his head out has nothing to do with the shape of his head or face.

I did you the favor of cropping everything out besides his head, including his neck and body. It's simply as head. The shape and details are completely different. Sure there are similarities, but you can't ignore the differences.

http://i.imgur.com/IuOjq.png

spida-man
11-30-2011, 10:29 AM
Yeah he looks almost TOO human in that concept art if you ask me

well they did say one of his stages of transformation was more like Steve Ditko's work:

http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/scans/ASM6_Lizard.JPG

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 10:33 AM
Troy, him sticking his head out has nothing to do with the shape of his head or face.

I did you the favor of cropping everything out besides his head, including his neck and body. It's simply as head. The shape and details are completely different. Sure there are similarities, but you can't ignore the differences.

http://i.imgur.com/IuOjq.png

You're stuck to that picture, man.

:|

What do you have to say about the FRONT view of him? The shape of his head looks completely different to the picture you posted. Why's that, then?

And by the way, the mouth is nowhere near as big as you think it is.

http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j455/Teaa20-08-11/LizardMouth.jpg

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 10:35 AM
well they did say one of his stages of transformation was more like Steve Ditko's work:

http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/scans/ASM6_Lizard.JPG Well, his final design does. I think RIM confirmed that it's his final design overall, but it will look a little different on film.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 10:42 AM
Troy are you blind? No offense, but you clearly can't see the mouth very well on the side picture:

http://i.imgur.com/ZdIE7.png

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 10:46 AM
Troy are you blind? No offense, but you clearly can't see the mouth very well on the side picture:

http://i.imgur.com/ZdIE7.png

I drew the line below the mouth on that picture, as it's already a blurry piece of ****. My point still stands though. :dry:

You didn't even answer my question as you seem to have an unusual obsession with this particular picture.

Why does his head look completely different in the front screenshot? I'm genuinely intrigued as to why his head would change shape mid-scene.

Eggyman
11-30-2011, 10:48 AM
I see a schooner.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 10:48 AM
Something must be wrong with Troy if he can't see that there's a snout.

Something must be wrong with your eyes if you can't see that I never denied that his mouth looks different in that picture.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 10:48 AM
**** if I know man, I didn't design him. All I know is that we have three leaked things. A PEZ dispenser render, a piece of promo art, and a leaked screencap of the ****ing movie. I, for one, know which one I'm going to rely on in terms of accuracy...

Eggyman
11-30-2011, 10:51 AM
He'll be green and Spidey will fight him. Give over.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 10:51 AM
**** if I know man, I didn't design him..

l0l.

__

I'll just wait for the trailer and/or (hopefully) a character still or poster or some sort before the trailer's released. Hope Sony just bites the bullet and releases SOMETHING officially of the Lizard soon.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 10:52 AM
He'll be green and Spidey will fight him. Give over.

Lies. :cmad:

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 10:52 AM
Same here, I hate fighting with people. I'd rather be proven wrong than have to fight for pages on end over this ****.


Get your **** together Sony.

SnuffTheRooster
11-30-2011, 10:53 AM
Keep in mind that you're looking at two different 2 dimensional images of the Lizard from the front, and another from the side.

I don't doubt one bit that the 2 images we have is the final look of the Lizard. You dont know how many times when it comes to superhero movies I've heard "oh it's not the final look" and when you see the movie, yes it's the final look.

I honestly don't mind the concept art OR the Pez dispenser design, I know it will look cool onscreen. However I am disappointed that this is how we got to see it. A freaking Pez dispenser.

Obviously the concept art is damage control leaked by the company itself. What it's just a coincidence that this picture comes out aday after the disappointing Lizard reveal?

I bet you some one at PEZ got in big **** for this.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 10:55 AM
I'm kind of glad that this whole reveal thing blew up in Sony's face. They should have known not to stretch it out THIS long.

Now, rather than an exciting reveal...

We saw the villain revealed first in the form of a cheap little toy that carries candy. w00t.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 10:55 AM
He'll be green and Spidey will fight him. Give over. This, lol.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 10:57 AM
Keep in mind that you're looking at two different 2 dimensional images of the Lizard from the front, and another from the side.

I don't doubt one bit that the 2 images we have is the final look of the Lizard. You dont know how many times when it comes to superhero movies I've heard "oh it's not the final look" and when you see the movie, yes it's the final look.

I honestly don't mind the concept art OR the Pez dispenser design, I know it will look cool onscreen. However I am disappointed that this is how we got to see it. A freaking Pez dispenser.

Obviously the concept art is damage control leaked by the company itself. What it's just a coincidence that this picture comes out aday after the disappointing Lizard reveal?

I bet you some one at PEZ got in big **** for this.


The concept art wasn't damage control leaked by the company. RIM already confirmed that this was an accidental leak and that he knows who it was.

Eggyman
11-30-2011, 11:03 AM
The reveal of Lizard has me so pumped. I can imagine before Spidey follows him into the sewer, he'll be swinging through the city, following a trail of destruction and pink and yellow lizard poop that looks like bricks.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 11:06 AM
I was getting really excited reading along with your post then got to the end of it and promptly made this face:

http://myfacewhen.com/images/354.jpg



and then I lol'd.

Spider-Who?
11-30-2011, 11:07 AM
It's all about the angle, I think.

Look at the blurry image. The bottom of his jaw is angled towards the camera, which hides the top of his head and snout, making it appear (slightly) longer and flatter than it is. As an example, look at the first 2 seconds of this video:

Jdx_zQLtme4

I think the angle explains why there are differing opinions as to the shape of the lizards head within the same scene.

Another thing I've wondered is if they designed the lizards head to look different depending on the angle. How do you give a monster humanity? Perhaps the designed it so that from the side, he's most definitly a lizard, but if you change the angle to looking at him from the front, it appears as if he has a more human face.

Of course, the easiest explanation would be that there ARE stages of transformation, and they're wanting to hold off on showing us the more primal version.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 11:10 AM
Another thing I've wondered is if they designed the lizards head to look different depending on the angle. How do you give a monster humanity? Perhaps the designed it so that from the side, he's most definitly a lizard, but if you change the angle to looking at him from the front, it appears as if he has a more human face.


I was thinking this too, and I like this idea a lot. Best of both worlds. :up:

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 11:10 AM
Who knows. This whole situation has turned into such a mind**** to the point where I'm reserving any and all opinions for the trailer.

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 11:13 AM
Another thing I've wondered is if they designed the lizards head to look different depending on the angle. How do you give a monster humanity? Perhaps the designed it so that from the side, he's most definitly a lizard, but if you change the angle to looking at him from the front, it appears as if he has a more human face.

I like that idea.

Spider-Who?
11-30-2011, 11:13 AM
Does anyone REALLY think we'll get a good shot of the lizard yet, though? We've still got quite a while before the movie comes out. Doesn't make sense to pop that balloon so soon.

Troy_Parker
11-30-2011, 11:15 AM
Does anyone REALLY think we'll get a good shot of the lizard yet, though? We've still got quite a while before the movie comes out. Doesn't make sense to pop that balloon so soon.

I think Sony's going to end up giving in a little earlier than planned and give us a proper look at the Lizard. After that, I'm expecting a drought.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 11:16 AM
We'll get a look at the Lizard and a new trailer this month. Another trailer/tv spot for the Super Bowl in February and maybe one more trailer in May-ish.

Oscorp
11-30-2011, 11:17 AM
What would be funny is if, when they finally reveal an official pic of the Lizard, they only show his claws, or the picture is at his back, not showing his face :P

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 11:20 AM
They would never ****ing dare. If they give us an official shot prior to the trailer, I can guarantee it will be shadowy, showing maybe half of his face in full light in a sewer type place.

Webhead38
11-30-2011, 11:21 AM
The concept art wasn't damage control leaked by the company. RIM already confirmed that this was an accidental leak and that he knows who it was.

This is getting more interesting by the moment. So this image we got today was not authorized by Sony to be released. But, based on this source, we can take it as an official image of the Lizard? Is that the current scenario at play?

Spider-ManHero12
11-30-2011, 11:22 AM
What would be funny is if, when they finally reveal an official pic of the Lizard, they only show his claws, or the picture is at his back, not showing his face :P That would get under so many people's skins, lol.

Eggyman
11-30-2011, 11:25 AM
This is getting more interesting by the moment. So this image we got today was not authorized by Sony to be released. But, based on this source, we can take it as an official image of the Lizard? Is that the current scenario at play?

Looks that way. But it doesn't mean end product. Could be one of a hundred different pictures. Maybe it'sclose.

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An abstract idea; a general notion.
A plan or intention; a conception.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 11:26 AM
This is getting more interesting by the moment. So this image we got today was not authorized by Sony to be released. But, based on this source, we can take it as an official image of the Lizard? Is that the current scenario at play?

It is an "official image" of sorts as it is promo art, but according to RIM it's a very poor representation of the Lizard that's actually in the film.

VenomSpawn
11-30-2011, 11:28 AM
In response to the Lizard's concept art, this fan was not impressed:

the ****! THE ****! WHAT THE **** IS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! IN NO ****ING WAY DOES THIS LOOK ANY DARK I SAID IT THEY ARE STEALING THE ATMOSPHERE FROM THE BATMAN FILMS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT I MEAN WHAT THE **** IS THIS??????????? WHEN GAYFIELD AND STONE ****ED IT UP, I HAD A 1% HOPE IF RHYS CAN DO ANY BETTER BUT NO THE LIZARD LOOKS ATROCIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE DR.CONNORS AS THE LIZARD. IT LOOKS LIKE FRANKENSTEIN AS THE LIZARD INSTEAD!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER I AM GOING TO LOOK AT THAT EVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! THIS WHOLE THING IS HURTING ME AND MAKING ME WEEP........**** YOU GAYFIELD,STONE,WEBB,VANDERBILT AND IFANS **** YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Methinks this rustled his jimmies.

©KAW
11-30-2011, 11:32 AM
I think Sony's going to end up giving in a little earlier than planned and give us a proper look at the Lizard. After that, I'm expecting a drought.Sony's not f---ing budging until that trailer is released. I see absolutely no reason why they should if a new trailer is on its way.

Spiderman6592
11-30-2011, 11:33 AM
KAW, I think what we can bet on is the trailer being released online after the Film Expo next week. I think middle of next week is when we'll be getting the trailer, as opposed to the 21st.

©KAW
11-30-2011, 11:43 AM
Where are you pulling these dates from? I think we all knew it was going to be released (last month before the new year) sometime in December, like any studio would with their big film.

Hotwire
11-30-2011, 11:44 AM
In response to the Lizard's concept art, this fan was not impressed:



Methinks this rustled his jimmies.

Yup, serious case of sand in his vag***!

VenomSpawn
11-30-2011, 11:47 AM
Yup, serious case of sand in his vag***!

Definitely. Although it's almost not as bad as people comparing him to a Goomba or Baby Godzilla like I'm seeing on a certain website. *coughCBMcough*

Oscorp
11-30-2011, 11:49 AM
Where are you pulling these dates from? I think we all knew it was going to be released (last month before the new year) sometime in December, like any studio would with their big film.

Next week is in December ;)

Quasimod0
11-30-2011, 11:52 AM
I see the resemblance though. :p

VenomSpawn
11-30-2011, 11:53 AM
Next week is in December ;)

Next week? TOMORROW is in December.

©KAW
11-30-2011, 11:57 AM
Next week is in December ;)
Yeah, but there's still no official date on when we'll see the trailer. Unless you know something I don't.

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