John Carter : A Princess of Mars - Part 1

[Whiskey Tango]

What worked in the book doesn't mean it would work in the movie. I think people would be confused if he ended up on Mars with no explanation, this way makes more sense.

Haven't read far enough into the books to know if an explanation is ever given but I can't imagine a big money pic like this letting a detail like that slide. I don't necessarily like it but I'm positive they'd want a concrete explanation for the GA.

[Motown Marvel]

What worked in the book doesn't mean it would work in the movie. I think people would be confused if he ended up on Mars with no explanation, this way makes more sense.

i understand not everything translates well. but i think this would work fine. it adds to the mystery of mars and plays into the end of the story as well.

[Ratcrawler]

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As I've mentioned, A Princess Of Mars--the book upon which John Carter is based-- was ERB's first novel and he wrote it out of a need to not let his family starve. There are plot holes and themes and double standards that either would not work on screen (the telepathic password to the atmosPhere plant) and a few tired cliches that were ahead of their time a hundred years ago. So I pretty much expect and accept the changes that I've seen in these trailers, the inclusion of characters that show up later in the trilogy to set things up, to flesh out the backstory a bit.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The more I see of this movie the more I don't want to see this movie.Agreed. Uninteresting pictures and a jaw droppingly bad trailer is just killing it for me.

[ThePowerCosmic]

John Carter HQ Pic:

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2065/85205922cmyk.jpg

[CaptainStacy]

Does anyone know if Disney is going to allow the fact that Carter was a Confederate soldier be mentioned, or are they ignoring that all together...?

[DarkKnight88]

Looks like uniforms here so I'd say it'll be at least visually represented.

[tecnowraith]

Does anyone know if Disney is going to allow the fact that Carter was a Confederate soldier be mentioned, or are they ignoring that all together...?

I thought they mentioned that in the first trailer!?

Also saw 2 new TV spots today and they are showing the film be more action adventure type film than drama like from the first trailer. Which is good IMO.

[ripse]

John Carter look mix Tarzan & Starwars....funny..>O<

[Wolf Boy]

It looks like next years PRINCE OF PERSIA.

Old skool adventure images with modern text in the promo campaign.

Also, like Persia, it will no doubt miss the boat judging by the average trailers. Wouldn't be surprised if it bombs tbh.

[Project862006]

meh i liked persia as a fun action film was'nt as bad as people say just average

[Karelia]

Thanks Whiskey Tango for the link. I went ahead and picked up the first book. :woot:

[squeekness]

Hope you like it. :)

[DACrowe]

When I saw this trailer before War Horse, I couldn't help but thinks this thing was going to bomb hard at the box office. It looks like just a lot of bad CGI to be honest.

[Project862006]

dont see how cgi is bad

aliens arent suppose to be realistic looking they are represented quite well in trailers

[Whiskey Tango]

All the cool kids are hatin' cgi these days.

[Project862006]

yes must be all animtronics and location shooting:cmad:

[Kahran Ramsus]

All the cool kids are hatin' cgi these days.

I don't hate CGI at all. Maybe it just isn't finished, but it looked to me like that quality was off too. Like it belonged in 2001 instead of 2011.

As someone who isn't familiar with this story, the trailer turned me off.

[DarkSovereignty]

I think the cg is great...idk what people are expecting...

[Whiskey Tango]

real aliens.

[DarkSovereignty]

maybe they expected Wilhelm Dafoe to get plastic surgery like REAL method actor.

[DarthSkywalker]

I think how "cheap" CGI looks has everything to do with how it is used and the environment it is used it. There is some "bad" CGI in the LOTR films, but it matches the world of the films.

Putting these creations in the SW United States is not helping their look.

[Karelia]

Been researching this quite a bit since I got the first book. It sounds pretty awesome from everything I've read about it. :D I'm excited to read it.

Also Micheal Giacchino is doing the score, that makes me :awesome: I loved what he did with Lost and Star Trek.

I'm also interested in seeing what the director (Andrew Stanton) does live action wise, since all he's done is CGI films, (amazing CGI films, that is.)

I love most of the cast as well. I'm really hoping this movie turns out well.

[Motown Marvel]

dont see how cgi is bad

aliens arent suppose to be realistic looking they are represented quite well in trailers

you mean you want your cgi characters to look fake and not existing on the same plane as the real iife characters they are supposed to be interacting with?

are you saying that if they cgi characters looked as realistic as the real life characters, you'd have a problem with that? a problem with them looking too realistic?

[Kane52630]

This shocked me...

Here's the poll on Comingsoon.net
http://i.imgur.com/u15Gg.png

[zanos]

I think someone hacked their voting machine.

[Project862006]

it is an extremely popular book

that has been around for over 70 years or so

[dark_b]

its a buisness. the studio and site made a deal. no paroblem i get it. i hope comingsoon gets more official pics, behind the scenes,more interviews. and if this means that they make JC first on the poll so be it . everythng is under control.

[craigdbfan]

Just the Disney machine at work folks. Nothing to see here. ;)

[JakeSully]

JOHN CARTER Ranks as 2012’s Most Anticipated Movie in New Survey

http://www.upcoming-movies.com/Articles/john-carter-ranks-as-2012-s-most-anticipated-movie-in-new-survey/

Holiday moviegoers watched new trailers for many of 2012’s top fantasy movies including The Dark Knight Rises, The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, Men In Black 3 and Prometheus in addition to previously released trailers for The Hunger Games, The Avengers and John Carter.
A readers survey at the Hero Complex blog of The L.A. Times ranked JOHN CARTER as the most anticipated movie of 2012 with The Dark Knight Rises and The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey in the second and third slots.

[Whiskey Tango]

This shocked me...

Here's the poll on Comingsoon.net
http://i.imgur.com/u15Gg.png

Hahaha pwnt

its a buisness. the studio and site made a deal. no paroblem i get it. i hope comingsoon gets more official pics, behind the scenes,more interviews. and if this means that they make JC first on the poll so be it . everythng is under control.

Just the Disney machine at work folks. Nothing to see here. ;)

Oh please.

[theShape]

Popular book or not, this movie looks pretty terrible. The trailers pass it off as an "Avatar" rip off (I know the book is not) and I'm shocked that it could be 2012's most anticipated movie. In fact, I straight up don't believe it.

[Sentinel X]

There is NO WAY IN HELL I'm going to believe that John Carter beat out The Dark Knight Rises, The Hobbit, Spider-man, and The Hunger Games for most anticipated 2012. Give me a break :lmao:

[craigdbfan]

Oh please.

You honestly believe that John Carter beats all those other movies by a landslide in anticipation?

Oh please.

[Whiskey Tango]

You honestly believe that John Carter beats all those other movies by a landslide in anticipation?

Oh please.

I've also heard that Disney has Walt's brain alive in a jar, and the company's success is due to his psychic powers subtly manipulating the masses into devouring their media.

That and a mere 9,000 votes isn't an indicator of much of anything, especially when one person can vote multiple times.

[Whiskey Tango]

As you'll notice, in just a few short hours JC's percentage has slipped from 44% to 39%. No doubt once the batfanboys get wind of it they'll lock themselves in mommy's basement, foregoing food, baths and toilet breaks, voting over and over again until they break the poll completely.

[Karelia]

I'm looking forward to John Carter quite a bit (obviously) but that said, I think TDKR is probably the most anticipated movie this year, close by is The Avengers and TASM. But John Carter is probably the first big movie coming out this year, isn't it? I'm sure it's got a little bit of hype for it.

[chaseter]

I think this will be one of the flops of 2012. I know nothing about this movie or the book and I will give the movie a chance if it gets good reviews but I think this will flop at the box office. Also, the marketing has really sucked for a movie coming out in a few months.

[ThePowerCosmic]

I think this will be one of the flops of 2012. I know nothing about this movie or the book and I will give the movie a chance if it gets good reviews but I think this will flop at the box office. Also, the marketing has really sucked for a movie coming out in a few months.

At least wait until 2012 before you complain about the marketing for this movie. None of the March movies have really began their advertising so why would you expect John Carter to? I think this movie is going to be spectacular, just you wait...

[Project862006]

Popular book or not, this movie looks pretty terrible. The trailers pass it off as an "Avatar" rip off (I know the book is not) and I'm shocked that it could be 2012's most anticipated movie. In fact, I straight up don't believe it.
umm avatar stole alot from JCOM and so did star wars

JCOM fails for the fact it came out too late when its material got ripped off for years

[squeekness]

This shocked me...

Here's the poll on Comingsoon.net
http://i.imgur.com/u15Gg.pngWow.... my boy Taylor is starring in both the first and last pics. :p Kinda funny.

[Kane52630]

Also, the marketing has really sucked for a movie coming out in a few months.

You should try and open your tv once in a while. The TV spots are playing during the Giants/Cowboys game. :oldrazz:

[squeekness]

You should try and open your tv once in a while. The TV spots are playing during the Giants/Cowboys game. :oldrazz:They are also getting a lot of play on Syfy. (I've been watching a lot of Ghost Hunters lately). :D

[Karelia]

Comics Continumm Interview Taylor Kitsch about John Carter.

Here's the link:
http://comicscontinuum.com/stories/1201/01/taylorkitsch.htm

Question: Your character John Carter has an amazing back-story. How did that inform you as an actor?

Kitsch: When I first read the script, I was drawn to the character-driven story and the fact that it will benefit from being a big studio movie. It gave the filmmakers a chance to make the film in an amazing way. You get to know John Carter's background with his family, the Civil War and everything. It's heavy to play but it gives me such a base to draw from through the whole movie. For example, in one scene, you'll see Carter playing with his rings and you'll know what that truly means to him. It's great as an actor because it's something to really dive into. It's great.

Question: What kind of character is John Carter?

Kitsch: Carter is a man who has lost everything he ever cared about. He comes back from the Civil War to find his wife and child dead. He basically goes into this recluse mode of living and is driven to mine for gold. It's like a Band-Aid solution -- he's covering up what he hasn't dealt with, the guilt and the loss of his family, whom he went to war to protect.

He has a fear of taking responsibility again and that's what he's fighting through the whole movie. He lands in the Civil War between Helium and Zodanga. He's on Mars but their conflict is incredibly relatable for him, so he just wants nothing to do with it. You have Dejah, Tars and everyone reminding him or literally telling him that there's a cause here and you have to be part of it whether you like it or not. He's made that choice before and everything was just ripped from him, so obviously there's that fear of actually engaging in that again. So that's what he's always pushing away from.

Question: This movie covers such an incredible epic span from the Civil War era to Western America to Mars. How was the epic adventure sense of it for you as an actor?

Kitsch: The grandeur and what Stanton's done and how it works and how it's all intertwined is quite epic and I felt that as an actor. My character is definitely on an epic adventure. We go from the 1800s on the streets of New York to the Arizona Territory in the West, to the plains of Mars -- all in one movie. As an actor I experienced my character John Carter in many different settings that had specific emotions and needs that I had to evoke.

I can't recall any movie that's done it the way we have. The ending brings the adventure full circle brilliantly, but you'll have to see it to understand what I mean.

Question: What do you think audiences are going to love about this movie?

Kitsch: There's a lot. I keep saying that the great white ape scene is worth the price of admission alone. Visually it's going to be incredible. I think they'll like the characters; they're going to be able to relate. It's not just a special effects movie with things blowing up and basically one guy that you don't care about. You care about John Carter and you care about his journey. You see an incredible arc of who he is, his new beginning and rebirth, and although you have special effects, you've also got the brilliant actors whom I've had the fortune of working opposite as well.

Question: Please talk about your character's relationship with Lynn Collins' character, Dejah Thoris.

Kitsch: In the books it's almost love at first sight and John would do anything for Dejah, but in the film you follow an arc that happens with John and Dejah as their relationship develops. I love the banter back and forth. We rib each other and we challenge each other through different scenes and finally the truth just comes out. It's a love story with everything else going on but it means so much to the film. It's quite the backbone of it.

Our characters' relationship at first is about pushing each other's buttons to see how we'll each react. That changes as we grow and she stops trying to test him and begins to see the real John, the part he can't even see himself.

But through the relationship, Dejah and John have so much going on that those moments become very special and, in a sense, earned. It would be unreal just to play that relationship as it is in the moment. You have to understand that the stakes are always so high, so you have to create these small moments that are earned and not just like, Oh, you're pretty today. You definitely have to work and earn those moments, which make them that much more special in the film.

Question: Did you enjoy working with Lynn Collins?

Kitsch: Working with Lynn is fiery, which I love. Lynn has a great balance of fire and beauty and has done an amazing job with her character Dejah. She's just a ton of fun. In every scene I play with her the stakes are quite high because she's on such a driven path. Just to be in those scenes with her has been great. We work really well with one another. Trust is everything and as an actor and as a good friend I trust her immensely. It's been great to work with her.

Question: How did director Andrew Stanton convey his vision to you?

Kitsch: Andrew Stanton's vision was very infectious. He's just brilliant and you just have to go along with it. You have to believe in it because it's such an incredible vision that if you don't, you're not doing the story and the character justice. Our first meeting was great. I was so excited because I am a huge fan of Wall-E and, come to find out, he's a fan of Friday Night Lights. It's just been a great relationship from the get-go and trust has been there from day one. It was great to be able to have him explain his vision and then to become part of it.

Question: Where did the story of John Carter come from?

Kitsch: It comes from Edgar Rice Burroughs, who created the character of John Carter. 2012 is the 100th anniversary of the creation of the character. Burroughs wrote a whole series of books based on him.

I think Edgar Rice Burroughs was way ahead of his time, especially for his first science- fiction novel. It relates to what we're living and doing right now -- the lack of natural resources, the energy problems, the wars going on from racism to religion. He was hitting it all almost 100 years ago.

And even in the film we address all those things. What Stanton has done is taken the base of John Carter from Burroughs and definitely gone into more depth of who John Carter really is and where he comes from.

Stanton has given me so much more to dive into with the character that wasn't realized in the books. It's been really great, script wise, to draw from that.

Question: How does John Carter wind up on Mars?

Kitsch: It's actually quite brilliant. Edgar Rice Burroughs didn't really address it in the book, in which he just wakes up on Mars. Andrew Stanton's John Carter goes into a cave on Earth where he tries to escape the Apaches. The cave has become a Thern way station where Therns transport back and forth from Mars. Carter gets accidentally transported to Mars when he comes into possession of a medallion.

Question: What makes the character of John Carter so appealing?

Kitsch: What's made him so interesting for me to play, and why I feel grounded in John, is the sense that he's real. And I think that will appeal to audiences, too. Carter's sense of loss, his regaining his humanity and his honor and finding love again are all appealing human themes that play out in this character on the screen.

Question: Does John Carter have powers on Mars?

Kitsch: I don't like to call them powers because then he's going into a superhero realm, which this is not. His enhanced strength and ability to jump are based on the different gravity of Mars. He learns that there's a lack of gravity on Mars and he has to adjust to it. At first he doesn't realize his enhanced strength, but when he does, he starts to figure out how to use that to his benefit.

Question: Despite the serious underlying themes of the movie, it's got a lot of wit and levity to it, too. Correct?

Kitsch: Absolutely. It's something that Stanton's worked on from the beginning, with the script and in the filming. John Carter has a lot of funny things happen to him and engages in some witty conversation with Dejah, Tars and even Woola, his canine-like protector. Even his gestures become moments of levity, such as the shrug of his shoulders in the White Ape scene. It's very situational comedy.

Question: Can you talk about Woola, Carter's dog-like protector?

Kitsch: I'm telling you, Woola will steal this movie. That's how brilliantly he's worked into the story line. Of course, he saves my butt a few times, which is really great.

At the beginning, I hate him for blowing my cover in the Thark camp. And, annoyingly, he finds me wherever I go. He's always able to find me at the right time and sometimes the wrong. He's loud and awkward, like a puppy in a sense. If anyone has an animal or has had an animal growing up, they know that there are so many things that you do with an animal that you don't do in a relationship with another human. Eventually, John lets his guard down quite a bit and I love that because it makes those moments with Woola quite great.

Question: Can you address the lengths to which the production and Andrew Stanton have gone to in order to get the right locations?

Kitsch: We were on location in Utah even though we could have easily done those whole sequences around green screen. Every location, whether it was in Utah or in London, was researched and chosen very carefully. In doing so, Andrew's made an incredible effort to keep it real. It's always been performance before technicality. The focus is on getting the performance and being on location helps with that enormously.

Question: What was it like working with the Thark actors in their motion capture suits?

Kitsch: The actors were dressed in, like, gray pajamas with dots all over them and headgear. It all goes back to making it real, because the actual actors were dressed in the suits instead of stand-ins.

Stanton brought in an incredible group of actors to bring these characters alive. There's a moment in the film where I do really look at Tars closely and there's only one way you can do it. And by Willem Dafoe actually being there on stilts, I can connect with him and his face and with the character. It helped me so much.

I think it's going to be an incredible trip to see the actual Tars Tarkas up there and me acting to these guys. We've done everything possible to make that real. Willem really brought Tars to life. He is incredibly professional and a lot funnier than people give him credit for. It's a lot of fun to watch him. He is so great to work off of…all of them are. Sam Morton, Church, all these guys. It's been great.

Question: How important was it that Andrew Stanton create a somewhat believable world?

Kitsch: It's very important. The film actually takes place in the late 1800s, so it's not set in the future. It's real time on Mars, too. So Andrew Stanton created this real world that people can believe in, not a bunch of people running around in robot suits. I think it's pretty amazing that we've created such a realistic world.

The key to everything is making it so you can relate and you can say, Wow, you know, I bet that world exists. And he's done such a brilliant job with that.

Question: Can you talk about the scope of the film?

Kitsch: The grandeur and what Stanton's done, and how it works and how it's all intertwined, is quite epic. Of course, we've got these wonderful landscapes and all the amazing shots too, which add to the scope.

I don't have a clue as to the actual scale of the film, but it feels like an epic to me. We go from the 1800s on the streets of New York to the Arizona Territory in the West, to the plains of Mars -- all in one movie.

Question: This is Andrew Stanton's first live-action film. What makes him the perfect director for John Carter?

Kitsch: It's quite simple. He's a brilliant writer and he'll tell a story like no other. What we needed first and foremost was an incredible character-driven story, which he delivered. He's going to keep the audience on their toes through the whole movie. There's no way they will figure out the ending.

Andrew Stanton is different from everyone else that I've worked with before. He directs me differently from the way he'll direct William [Dafoe] or Samantha [Morton]. And that's the trick. He knows what is going to work for you and you only. And that's the difference of his direction compared to a lot of other directors I've worked with.

Question: When did you know you wanted to be an actor and how did you get into it?

Kitsch: There were things that kind of spoke to me while I was growing up, such as performances that changed my point of view. I love telling a story. I love bringing people into a performance. I love the kind of escapism that it brings.

I enjoy working with brilliant actors. I've had the pleasure to do so and hopefully it will continue. There's no better art form that I've ever come across where you learn more about yourself. I always want to keep growing and becoming a better actor and everything that goes with that as well.

Question: Do you enjoy seeing this type of science-fiction adventure in theaters?

Kitsch: I love going to a good film in theaters just as much as the next guy. It's all about escapism and enjoying the arc and the wild ride and wondering where the next scene is going to lead and what's going to happen. Just being a part of it and creating it makes it that much more special to me. I love movies that take you right into the conflict.

And I think we'll take you right into Mars and hopefully you feel it when I'm in the cave and when Dejah is fighting and when we're surrounded by Tharks. And when we're in the gladiator arena, I hope you're right there with us.

Question: Did you enjoy your stay in London and working for so long abroad?

Kitsch: Unfortunately, I didn't really get to see a lot of London. But what I saw I loved. I worked so much that all I did was sleep and work.

I love being away from home, though. I've worked from South Africa to Australia, to London. Ironically, I've only worked for two weeks in Vancouver, where I'm from. I love being away, as it keeps me a lot more focused than when I'm home where other variables can come into play to detour me from work.

Question: You did your own wirework and even worked with the second unit sometimes doing your own stunt work. How physically demanding was this role?

Kitsch: Honestly, no job will ever be as physical and exhausting, yet rewarding, as this one. I've been tested on every level and then some. The pure physicality of it, to the arc of the character, to the emotional spectrum he has. I've had to keep up my endurance this whole time, but again what you put in is what you hopefully get out. And I think that will be very specific to this role.

Question: Did you have fun doing any of the physical scenes?

Kitsch: I love doing the fight scenes. The Great White Ape scene was probably something I'll never forget. The energy in that arena was really great. I knew early on from the screen test that this scene was going to be epic. The stakes are incredibly high and I love that.

[squeekness]

Great interview. :D

[jonathancrane]

I went to see Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows last night and saw the trailer for John Carter. I was impressed seeing it on high definition on Youtube, but was blown away seeing it on the large screen. I cannot wait until it is released.

[Karelia]

I went to see Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows last night and saw the trailer for John Carter. I was impressed seeing it on high definition on Youtube, but was blown away seeing it on the large screen. I cannot wait until it is released.

That makes two of us. I hope I can see it in IMAX, but it's looking not likely.

I liked the interview a lot. I hope this movie has as much heart as Kitsch is saying it will. :woot: Him talking about Woola made me go awww. :word:

[terry78]

Glad to hear he's excited about the whole experience, which is always a good sign.

[Ratcrawler]

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[Karelia]

Looks cool. :D

I'm about 50 pages into the first novel, he just saw Dejah for the first time. So far, I'm loving the book. I'll probably have finished reading it in the next couple of days.

Are all of the books about John Carter or do some have different main characters?

[Symbiotic]

Frm RopeOfSilicon.com, MPAA rating: PG-13 for intense sequences of violence and action. Once again, Disney not afraid to go PG-13 with a non-Pirates title. I like.:up:

[Motown Marvel]

Looks cool. :D

I'm about 50 pages into the first novel, he just saw Dejah for the first time. So far, I'm loving the book. I'll probably have finished reading it in the next couple of days.

Are all of the books about John Carter or do some have different main characters?

that is the exact point of the book where things start getting really really awesome.

the first three books (princess of mars, gods of mars, warlord of mars) are all about john carter. the fourth book, thuvia maid of mars, is about carthoris and thuvia, and the fifth book is about tara. you'll learn about those characters later. i havent gone further than that in the series yet though. i believe there are 11 books total.

[dark_b]

Glad to hear he's excited about the whole experience, which is always a good sign.was there an example where the actor was not excited when he was promothing a big budget movie?:yay:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

was there an example where the actor was not excited when he was promothing a big budget movie?:yay:True.

[Karelia]

that is the exact point of the book where things start getting really really awesome.

the first three books (princess of mars, gods of mars, warlord of mars) are all about john carter. the fourth book, thuvia maid of mars, is about carthoris and thuvia, and the fifth book is about tara. you'll learn about those characters later. i havent gone further than that in the series yet though. i believe there are 11 books total.

Interesting. Yeah, I read about 20 pages this morning. I'm loving it. :woot:

Do you know if they plan on reprinting the whole series of novels? I know they've released up to Book 3. I'm guessing not since they're probably only doing the ones focusing on John Carter to get more hype for the movie.

[dark_b]

True.:cwink:

in 2012 Rooney Mara has nice things to say about Nightmare on Elm Street. :woot:

[Motown Marvel]

Interesting. Yeah, I read about 20 pages this morning. I'm loving it. :woot:

Do you know if they plan on reprinting the whole series of novels? I know they've released up to Book 3. I'm guessing not since they're probably only doing the ones focusing on John Carter to get more hype for the movie.

i think all the books are pretty accessible. a few years ago i got the original trilogy collected into one book at barnes and noble, and along with it the next two books collected together. they were both some sort of barnes and noble edition. im sure they're all readily available on amazon.

[squeekness]

I got the first three bundled for my Kindle for a whopping $0.99. :p :D

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

was there an example where the actor was not excited when he was promothing a big budget movie?:yay:

Well, you could say James Franco, he released an interview just before Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes came saying he didnt feel the movie was good enough and it wasnt the type of film he wanted to be involved in.

Turned out to be one of the best movies of the year, ha ha, but at the time I appreciated his honesty and I like him as an actor.

[Karelia]

I've been reading people's comments on other sites, it seems many like to complain about the actors not being nude. Do they really expect a big budget film like this to have everyone running around nude through the whole film? :dry:

[Whiskey Tango]

I've been reading people's comments on other sites, it seems many like to complain about the actors not being nude. Do they really expect a big budget film like this to have everyone running around nude through the whole film? :dry:

Despite it being a Disney pic? Probably.

[craigdbfan]

Yeah as much as I like that skimpy clad Princess of Mars art (Frank Frazetta art) it seriously wouldn't of worked with this.

Some people wanted a live action Fire & Ice essentially but what they went with in this movie in terms of clothing is good enough.

[the dmg]

Yeah as much as I like that skimpy clad Princess of Mars art (Frank Frazetta art) it seriously wouldn't of worked with this.

Some people wanted a live action Fire & Ice essentially but what they went with in this movie in terms of clothing is good enough.
Fire & Ice....:awesome:

[DarthSkywalker]

Well, you could say James Franco, he released an interview just before Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes came saying he didnt feel the movie was good enough and it wasnt the type of film he wanted to be involved in.

Turned out to be one of the best movies of the year, ha ha, but at the time I appreciated his honesty and I like him as an actor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH6Acpzurb0

[Whiskey Tango]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH6Acpzurb0

Fail.

[squeekness]

Don't you hate it when that happens? :p

[Whiskey Tango]

The youtube button should really come with a manual.

[dark_b]

why is it so hard to copy/paste the link? is it so hard to have an extra firefox tab?
every day 60% of youtube links dont work. so i need ot quote the post and copy/paste the link.

[Whiskey Tango]

why is it so hard to copy/paste the link? is it so hard to have an extra firefox tab?
every day 60% of youtube links dont work. so i need ot quote the post and copy/paste the link.

It's not that hard, just nobody does it when they can screw up the embedding instead.

[Karelia]

Anyone got some recommendations on books slightly similar to John Carter? :D Mainly just a good action adventure/scifi book with a cool main hero.

I'm almost done with the first John Carter book. I have around 40 pages left. It's been a pretty amazing book.

[Whiskey Tango]

Anyone got some recommendations on books slightly similar to John Carter? :D Mainly just a good action adventure/scifi book with a cool main hero.

I'm almost done with the first John Carter book. I have around 40 pages left. It's been a pretty amazing book.

If you don't mind fantasy check out The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian (http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Conan-Cimmerian-Original-Adventures/dp/0345461517/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326061596&sr=8-1). It's the original Conan stories as Robert Howard wrote them, untouched by lesser writers *cough L. Sprague de Camp cough*

If you like that one there are two more in the set (Bloody Crown of Conan and Conquering Sword of Conan)

They are AWESOME. REH was a very talented writer.

[Karelia]

If you don't mind fantasy check out The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian (http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Conan-Cimmerian-Original-Adventures/dp/0345461517/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326061596&sr=8-1). It's the original Conan stories as Robert Howard wrote them, untouched by lesser writers *cough L. Sprague de Camp cough*

If you like that one there are two more in the set (Bloody Crown of Conan and Conquering Sword of Conan)

They are AWESOME. REH was a very talented writer.

Thanks for the recommendation. :D


Just finished the book... I should have taken someone's advice when they said to go ahead and get the next book with it. Now I gotta wait a couple of days before I continue reading it. Pretty good cliffhanger. :woot:

[squeekness]

Yeah, I was glad that I had bought the first three books bundled. So much easier to just jump right on to the next one. :)

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=85873

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1961/johncarterinternational.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/johncarterinternational.jpg/)

[squeekness]

Shweet! :D

[Karelia]

I love the colors in the poster.

I hope they keep a lot of the scenes with Woola in the movie. He always made me smile when he would pop up in the book. :D

[TheVileOne]

Just FYI guys, the woman who decided to remove MARS from the franchise, MT Carney, was ousted from Disney. She didn't really have an entertainment marketing background when Disney brought her in and didn't seem to be very well liked. Judging from the article about the story on Deadline, people have been very critical over the way she has handled the John Carter campaign.

Bruckheimer for example had so little faith in her, he refused to let her head up the campaign for Pirates 4 and instead shopped it out to another company.

[Rowsdower!]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=85873

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1961/johncarterinternational.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/johncarterinternational.jpg/)

Very cool. I like this one a lot better than that weird orange U.S. poster.

[protocida]

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/843/11864210.png (http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/843/11864210.png)

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7173/70894143.png (http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7173/70894143.png)

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/4206/65497256.png

[terry78]

I like the look of Tars Tarkas and the Tharks still. They have that slight Pixar-ish thing about them, yet they still look pretty seamless in live action shots.

[Project862006]

Great New TV Spot
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[Karelia]

I love it. Best TV spot so far. :D

[Octoberist]

Just FYI guys, the woman who decided to remove MARS from the franchise, MT Carney, was ousted from Disney. She didn't really have an entertainment marketing background when Disney brought her in and didn't seem to be very well liked. Judging from the article about the story on Deadline, people have been very critical over the way she has handled the John Carter campaign.

Bruckheimer for example had so little faith in her, he refused to let her head up the campaign for Pirates 4 and instead shopped it out to another company.

I just read it. http://m.deadline.com/2012/01/m-t-carney-out-as-president-of-worldwide-marketing-at-walt-disney-studios/

So it was her idea to drop 'Of Mars'. Even though I can tolerate the current title, it was a questionable move that kinda alienated both geeks and causal film goers. What sucks now it's that they should have sacked her earlier and change the title back to 'John Carter of Mars'.

[Marvolo]

Damnit why'd they have to wait for her to butcher the title of this film before sacking her.

[craigdbfan]

Carney is getting to much of a bad wrap. She did some good things.

POTC4 (despite TheVileOne saying otherwise she was actually involved in the marketing for this), The Muppets, Tangled, War Horse, The Help, and The Avengers have/were handled well in the marketing sense.

Sure she blew it in a couple of them but it's hardly such a big deal as some are making. Plus I heard she willingly stepped down and wasn't "sacked" or "kicked" from Disney.

She resigned on her own accord. She had more hits under her belt than fails when it comes to marketing.

[Project862006]

JC is a fine title i think we know he is from mars lol

no need to redundant like captain america the first avenger lol

[Marvolo]

JC is a fine title i think we know he is from mars lol

no need to redundant like captain america the first avenger lol

I have yet to see one trailer for this in theaters. None of my friends have any idea who john Carter is, and his mention gets 'huh'? At least leaving mars in the title gives some sense of genre. The posters don't even give a clear idea what it is. Almost all of the posters have used that same bland block lettering used for Prince of Persia. And this is just personal taste but only this most recent TV spot has made me want to check it out. The last full trailer turned me off entirely.

I like the book, but this movies marketing has not sold this movie to me in the slightest. Its all very bland and doesn't seem to grasp the story or know how to promote it. If I didn't visit forums I wouldn't even know this film existed.

[The Morningstar]

I think the title is stupid. John Carter: A Princess of Mars? So, John Carter is a princess? lol

[Marvolo]

I think the title is stupid. John Carter: A Princess of Mars? So, John Carter is a princess? lol

It was just John Carter of Mars. If I remember correctly John Carter: A Princess of Mars was never the title for the movie.

Even if it was though, the colon signifies a seperation of a subtitle from its main title meaning John Carter is a character in a story about a princess of mars not that he is a princess like would be implied by a comma . You see when this story was written people still had a good understanding of the English language and its written form unlike today. The title is not stupid the people who do not understand punctuation are. No offense.

[terry78]

You is crazy. I be speakin da king's english good and can read an rite it as well.

[DarthSkywalker]

Carney is getting to much of a bad wrap. She did some good things.

POTC4 (despite TheVileOne saying otherwise she was actually involved in the marketing for this), The Muppets, Tangled, War Horse, The Help, and The Avengers have/were handled well in the marketing sense.

Sure she blew it in a couple of them but it's hardly such a big deal as some are making. Plus I heard she willingly stepped down and wasn't "sacked" or "kicked" from Disney.

She resigned on her own accord. She had more hits under her belt than fails when it comes to marketing.

How many of those actually made good money, especially here the states? The Help and... I am not seeing it actually.

I think the title is stupid. John Carter: A Princess of Mars? So, John Carter is a princess? lol

They should of just Harry Pottered it. John Carter and the Princess of Mars.

[craigdbfan]

POTC4: WW $1,043,871,802
Tangled: WW $590,721,936
The Help: WW $204,168,206

Domestic or International hardly matters as she was the director of "WORLDWIDE" marketing. So she did her job with those three.

So I don't see how the domestic gross makes a bit of a difference. POTC4, Tangled and The Help regardless whether you watch or not made a ton of money. So my point still stands in that this entire thing is being overblown.

The Avengers hasn't been released yet and War Horse hasn't been out for that long and just released in the UK and most of Europe so that's yet to be determined.

[DarthSkywalker]

And The Muppets? And are you really giving her credit for a Depp in a Pirates film?

[spider_rob]

I think the title is stupid. John Carter: A Princess of Mars? So, John Carter is a princess? lol

You ain't very smart, are ya?

[craigdbfan]

@DS That's irrelevant. All I'm trying to get across is she doesn't deserve the amount of lambasting she's received.

I'm also trying to correct this notion she was ousted from Disney when that's not the case.

[DarthSkywalker]

Rarely does anyone step down on their own accord. There is usually a bit of a push at the very least.

[dark_b]

i think its funny that they make a fantasy movie where the main character is on mars but they are scared to have the word mars in the title.

joke: if i would get one question to ask god i would ask him how stupid was disney in 2011-2012.

[craigdbfan]

What a waste of a question.

[Project862006]

I have yet to see one trailer for this in theaters. None of my friends have any idea who john Carter is, and his mention gets 'huh'? At least leaving mars in the title gives some sense of genre. The posters don't even give a clear idea what it is. Almost all of the posters have used that same bland block lettering used for Prince of Persia. And this is just personal taste but only this most recent TV spot has made me want to check it out. The last full trailer turned me off entirely.

I like the book, but this movies marketing has not sold this movie to me in the slightest. Its all very bland and doesn't seem to grasp the story or know how to promote it. If I didn't visit forums I wouldn't even know this film existed.

well i think anyone with a brain can tell you this movie does'nt take place on our planet lol

with the way everyone is dressed with the alien life forms and the big gigantic monsters JC is fighting

not to mention it showed JC jumping as high in the air as superman:o

[Marvolo]

well i think anyone with a brain can tell you this movie does'nt take place on our planet lol

with the way everyone is dressed with the alien life forms and the big gigantic monsters JC is fighting

not to mention it showed JC jumping as high in the air as superman:o

It shows it takes place on an alien world doesn't say which one and shows a guy who can jump really high. Thats all fairly generic, and doesn't tell me this takes place on mars or anything about the story. Most 2nd or 3rd trailers lay out the story.

All the trailers have shown is some prince of Persia knock off is on some alien world helping 6 limbed creatures and ends up in an arena strangely familiar to the one in Attack of the Clones. All I'm saying is the marketing is weak to me and I know the story its non existent and vague to my friends who hadn't even heard of the story. Its like they are not even try to sell this movie or make it seem epic. This movie could end up making bank but if it fails due to this campaign I wouldn't be surprised.

Just to be clear I'm not saying the movie is bad or will be bad. Just that the marketing is pretty crappy imo.

[DarthSkywalker]

It shows it takes place on an alien world doesn't say which one and shows a guy who can jump really high. Thats all fairly generic, and doesn't tell me this takes place on mars or anything about the story. Most 2nd or 3rd trailers lay out the story.

All the trailers have shown is some prince of Persia knock off is on some alien world helping 6 limbed creatures and ends up in an arena strangely familiar to the one in Attack of the Clones. All I'm saying is the marketing is weak to me and I know the story its non existent and vague to my friends who hadn't even heard of the story. Its like they are not even try to sell this movie or make it seem epic. This movie could end up making bank but if it fails due to this campaign I wouldn't be surprised.

Just to be clear I'm not saying the movie is bad or will be bad. Just that the marketing is pretty crappy imo.

I completely agree. It is easy to say "well obviously it takes place on Mars" when you know the material, but the vast majority have no idea what this is or that it is set on Mars.

[moviedoors]

I showed the first trailer to my wife and she didn't have a clue it was supposed to be Mars.

[protocida]

More information on the movie:

John Carter begins with a Voice-Over introducing planet Barsoom and the war between Helium and Zodanga. The Therns, a race of shapeshifting parasitic beings led by Matai Shang (Mark Strong), who travel from planet to planet, managing each planet's destruction in order to advance their goals, arrive and give Sab Than (Dominic West), the ruler of Zodanga, control of an energy source that makes Zodanga superior to Helium in the war. Helium's Princess Dejah Thoris (Lynn Collins), a student of the Science Academy, who is dedicated to control the power in order to save her kingdom from destruction.

Earth. In New York City, John Carter (Taylor Kitsch) is sneaking around his house, and sends an urgent telegraph to his nephew Ned (Daryl Sabara), however, when Ned arrives to his uncle's state, he learns that Carter has died and left everything to him. Investigating Carter's mansion, Ned finds a secret chamber filled with treasures and maps, including a diary, through which the story unfolds.

13 years earlier, during the American Civil War, Carter, a Captain of the Army of Virginia, goes AWOL after his wife and daughter are brutally killed and becomes a drifter. He arrives at a bar and tries to buy a beer, but the bartender refuses to serve him because his tab is too high and he hasn't paid it. Carter becomes involved in a bar fight before revealing that he discovered gold in a nearby cave. As proof, he presents a small ingot with the engraved figure of a spider. Suddenly, Confederate soldiers led by Captain Powell (Bryan Cranston) appear and arrest Carter.

Powell tries to force Carter to rejoin the Army, but Carter refuses and escapes. Powell chases after him when they're ambushed by Apache indians who mortally wound Powell. Carter saves him and hides at the cave of gold, where he finds a spider symbol engraved on the walls. The cave is actually a Thern outpost, and Carter is attacked by one, but manages to overpower ans shoot him. The wounded Thern tries to whisper "Barsoom" while holding his medallion, but dies before suceeding. Carter takes the medallion from in and accidentally says "Barsoom". The medallion is actually a transportation device, and teleports Carter to Mars, where the adventure begins.

[Kurosawa]

You ain't very smart, are ya?

They could have always went with "John Carter and the Princess of Mars"-woulda been similar to a Harry Potter book title.

[Whiskey Tango]

More information on the movie:

John Carter begins with a Voice-Over introducing planet Barsoom and the war between Helium and Zodanga. The Therns, a race of shapeshifting parasitic beings led by Matai Shang (Mark Strong), who travel from planet to planet, managing each planet's destruction in order to advance their goals, arrive and give Sab Than (Dominic West), the ruler of Zodanga, control of an energy source that makes Zodanga superior to Helium in the war. Helium's Princess Dejah Thoris (Lynn Collins), a student of the Science Academy, who is dedicated to control the power in order to save her kingdom from destruction.

Earth. In New York City, John Carter (Taylor Kitsch) is sneaking around his house, and sends an urgent telegraph to his nephew Ned (Daryl Sabara), however, when Ned arrives to his uncle's state, he learns that Carter has died and left everything to him. Investigating Carter's mansion, Ned finds a secret chamber filled with treasures and maps, including a diary, through which the story unfolds.

13 years earlier, during the American Civil War, Carter, a Captain of the Army of Virginia, goes AWOL after his wife and daughter are brutally killed and becomes a drifter. He arrives at a bar and tries to buy a beer, but the bartender refuses to serve him because his tab is too high and he hasn't paid it. Carter becomes involved in a bar fight before revealing that he discovered gold in a nearby cave. As proof, he presents a small ingot with the engraved figure of a spider. Suddenly, Confederate soldiers led by Captain Powell (Bryan Cranston) appear and arrest Carter.

Powell tries to force Carter to rejoin the Army, but Carter refuses and escapes. Powell chases after him when they're ambushed by Apache indians who mortally wound Powell. Carter saves him and hides at the cave of gold, where he finds a spider symbol engraved on the walls. The cave is actually a Thern outpost, and Carter is attacked by one, but manages to overpower ans shoot him. The wounded Thern tries to whisper "Barsoom" while holding his medallion, but dies before suceeding. Carter takes the medallion from in and accidentally says "Barsoom". The medallion is actually a transportation device, and teleports Carter to Mars, where the adventure begins.

I was all prepared to start *****ing about needlessly changing the nephew but then I looked it up and learned that Ned is short for Edgar. Something new every day.

[protocida]

Superbowl TV Spot confirmed.

[Motown Marvel]

More information on the movie:

John Carter begins with a Voice-Over introducing planet Barsoom and the war between Helium and Zodanga. The Therns, a race of shapeshifting parasitic beings led by Matai Shang (Mark Strong), who travel from planet to planet, managing each planet's destruction in order to advance their goals, arrive and give Sab Than (Dominic West), the ruler of Zodanga, control of an energy source that makes Zodanga superior to Helium in the war. Helium's Princess Dejah Thoris (Lynn Collins), a student of the Science Academy, who is dedicated to control the power in order to save her kingdom from destruction.

Earth. In New York City, John Carter (Taylor Kitsch) is sneaking around his house, and sends an urgent telegraph to his nephew Ned (Daryl Sabara), however, when Ned arrives to his uncle's state, he learns that Carter has died and left everything to him. Investigating Carter's mansion, Ned finds a secret chamber filled with treasures and maps, including a diary, through which the story unfolds.

13 years earlier, during the American Civil War, Carter, a Captain of the Army of Virginia, goes AWOL after his wife and daughter are brutally killed and becomes a drifter. He arrives at a bar and tries to buy a beer, but the bartender refuses to serve him because his tab is too high and he hasn't paid it. Carter becomes involved in a bar fight before revealing that he discovered gold in a nearby cave. As proof, he presents a small ingot with the engraved figure of a spider. Suddenly, Confederate soldiers led by Captain Powell (Bryan Cranston) appear and arrest Carter.

Powell tries to force Carter to rejoin the Army, but Carter refuses and escapes. Powell chases after him when they're ambushed by Apache indians who mortally wound Powell. Carter saves him and hides at the cave of gold, where he finds a spider symbol engraved on the walls. The cave is actually a Thern outpost, and Carter is attacked by one, but manages to overpower ans shoot him. The wounded Thern tries to whisper "Barsoom" while holding his medallion, but dies before suceeding. Carter takes the medallion from in and accidentally says "Barsoom". The medallion is actually a transportation device, and teleports Carter to Mars, where the adventure begins.
sounds like a lot of unnecessary changes.

i dont mind changes from source material....but it should make sense and be justified. a lot of this just sounds unnecessary.

[spider_rob]

I was all prepared to start *****ing about needlessly changing the nephew but then I looked it up and learned that Ned is short for Edgar. Something new every day.

Same reason Ned is a nickname for Eddard in Game of Thrones?

I think it was because they used to say, "Mine Edgar", which sounds like "Mine Nedgar", which was eventually shortened to "Ned".

[Rowsdower!]

Nicknames always leave me scratching my head. Ned makes more sense though than getting "Dick" out of Richard and "Peggy" out of Margaret.

I'm sure I could look it up on wikipedia and find out how those nicknames came about but, naaah.

[Project862006]

International Poster
http://johncarterfiles.michaeldsellers.com/files/2012/01/Screen-shot-2012-01-19-at-11.36.57-AM.png

awesome positive tweet From Variety apparently they had test screenings
https://twitter.com/#!/Variety_JLD/status/160056204213760001 (https://twitter.com/#%21/Variety_JLD/status/160056204213760001)

[Project862006]

confirmed 2 hrs. 3 min run time by Stanton

and positive reviews from preview clips shown

http://www.screengeek.co.uk/features/article/report-john-carter-preview-event?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

http://7films.me.uk/news/7-john-carter-moments-qa-star-taylor-kitsch/

[Spideyfan93]

Still feeling good vibes for this movie.

The potential is ridiculous.

[spider_rob]

The potential is ridiculous.

it's called avatar

[Whiskey Tango]

yea total ripoff :dry:

[protocida]

it's called avatar http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/attachments/general-ffxi-discussion/24220d1326773760-whats-your-pet-peeve-ffxi-implied_facepalm.jpg

[dark_b]

confirmed 2 hrs. 3 min run time by Stanton

and positive reviews from preview clips shown

http://www.screengeek.co.uk/features/article/report-john-carter-preview-event?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

http://7films.me.uk/news/7-john-carter-moments-qa-star-taylor-kitsch/i like 2 hours.

[Rowsdower!]

http://johncarterfiles.michaeldsellers.com/files/2012/01/Screen-shot-2012-01-19-at-11.36.57-AM.png

Coming Soon: Seth Grahame-Smith's Jefferson in Paris with Aliens

[TheGambler]

Two new promo images featuring Mark Strong as Matai Shang and Dominic West as Sab Than:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/5197/jcgallerymataishang940x.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6231/jcgallerysabthan940x529.jpg

[chaseter]

I get the feeling this will under perform. Might be a good movie, idk, but there is no hype for this movie at all.

[craigdbfan]

Mark Strong outfit in this reminds me of what Zordon was wearing in the PR: Movie.

http://i.imgur.com/L0VAv.jpg

[ThePowerCosmic]

I get the feeling this will under perform. Might be a good movie, idk, but there is no hype for this movie at all.

Give it a chance to start heavily marketing before it builds hype...

[chaseter]

It comes out in 5 weeks...

I will guess $35-40 million opening weekend. I have no idea what the budget is but I would guess close to $200 million.

[TheGambler]

It comes out in 5 weeks...

I will guess $35-40 million opening weekend. I have no idea what the budget is but I would guess close to $200 million.

While I'm a big fan of the novels, I have to say that I am a little bit dissapointed with marketing. They really should start promote it as a film based on the 100 year old novel or something. They should at least mention Burroughs. I hope the hype will pick up soon, because it seems that the test screenings went well and audience really loved it. I'm hoping for $60-70M opening weekend with good word-of-mouth. February is the month where they really need to step it up.

[spider_rob]

Is Dominic West playing the same character he did in 300?

[protocida]

He's more Xerxes than Theron in John Carter.

[Karelia]

I'm still waiting on Book Two and Three to come in the mail. :(

I agree, there's a lack of hype for John Carter. I have talked to a couple of people about it, most don't even know it's based on a book. I was the same a few months back until I researched it.

I hope this turns out well though. Loved the first novel.

[Project862006]

well it does a have a superbowl spot so that will help

[matrix_ghost]

I just feel that with the release datr coming closer and the movie now being finished , Disney should just ramp up the marketing for this movie.

[TheGambler]

The official site has been updated with some really great music, scored by Michael Giacchino:

JOHN CARTER WEBSITE (http://disney.go.com/johncarter/#/splash-page)

[Karelia]

The music is amazing... Micheal Giacchino is a great composer. Love a lot of his scores.

[terry78]

I feel that if they kept the "Of Mars" on there people would be more apt to know what's up. Because many of us have had to read it in school, and people with literature knowledge would know right off the bat.

[DyeLorean]

We all know that if Mars Needs Moms wasn't a big FAIL, the movie would've been titled John Carter of Mars. It's a much powerful title.

[Project862006]

anyone hear this epic track from John Carter OST by Michael Giacchino

Pursuit Of Dejah
dgOZYv8kmSs

[Project862006]

NEW TV SPOT!!!
gPOcRyeEJAE

[TheGambler]

Wow! Love it! Looks really good.

[Project862006]

http://www.stitchkingdom.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/john_carter_stills/wa_109_0590_v4133_grd21-0025.jpg

[Marvolo]

http://www.stitchkingdom.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/john_carter_stills/wa_109_0590_v4133_grd21-0025.jpg

I want one of those as a pet.:woot:

[terry78]

That thing is ugly cute.

[Marvolo]

Yeah, it is lol.

[Hunter Rider]

That new TV spot showed some cool new battle sequences. :up:

[Karelia]

Woola is ugly cute... Just as I imagined him in the books! That's so cool. I love that picture.

[Motown Marvel]

that was a cool TV spot. glad to see dejah thoris getting in on the action. i hope they show the women of mars just as much a capable warrior as the men, as depicted in the novel.

[Ratcrawler]

You know, in a weird way, I think "John Carter Of Earth" would have been a more apt title. First of all, he IS from Earth and you hear Dejah call him that. Second, it kind of fills you with a sense of pride when you see this dude jump into a ravenous horde of monsters or swing a boulder on a chain into the face of Martian King Kong and you think "Yeah, this guy? He's from Earth. We can all pretty much do that on another planet's gravity..."

Anyhoo, here's some tweets from a viewing of the finished product at Pixar...

Ayelet Waldman #johncarter was a goddamn masterpiece.

lynncollins7 lynn collins
#johncarter blew me away. @andrewstanton has done again! U guys are going to flip out! #bringontheawesome

ayeletw Ayelet Waldman
Just saw John Carter. It was AWESOME. Seriously. Best action movie I’ve seen … maybe ever? Lush and gorgeous. Great love story. FAB!!!!

joannam Joanna Mathews
Got to screen #JohnCarter yesterday and lemme just say…wow! pleasantly surprised! it’s really good! pumped and ready for it to come out!

ayeletw Ayelet Waldman
The thing about #johncarter is that the female lead is smart, & kicks ASS. It’s so female friendly! @LanceArthur

[Ratcrawler]

Interview with Kitch...

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid871166280001?bckey=AQ%7E%7E%2CAAAAACkAQxo%7E% 2CJbFjHxgqCuak3gK2T7u3p0eDyamGmIu2&bctid=1410710205001

[Motown Marvel]

You know, in a weird way, I think "John Carter Of Earth" would have been a more apt title. First of all, he IS from Earth and you hear Dejah call him that. Second, it kind of fills you with a sense of pride when you see this dude jump into a ravenous horde of monsters or swing a boulder on a chain into the face of Martian King Kong and you think "Yeah, this guy? He's from Earth. We can all pretty much do that on another planet's gravity..."

Anyhoo, here's some tweets from a viewing of the finished product at Pixar...

Ayelet Waldman #johncarter was a goddamn masterpiece.

lynncollins7 lynn collins
#johncarter blew me away. @andrewstanton has done again! U guys are going to flip out! #bringontheawesome

ayeletw Ayelet Waldman
Just saw John Carter. It was AWESOME. Seriously. Best action movie I’ve seen … maybe ever? Lush and gorgeous. Great love story. FAB!!!!

joannam Joanna Mathews
Got to screen #JohnCarter yesterday and lemme just say…wow! pleasantly surprised! it’s really good! pumped and ready for it to come out!

ayeletw Ayelet Waldman
The thing about #johncarter is that the female lead is smart, & kicks ASS. It’s so female friendly! @LanceArthur

i hope these are all true. but green lantern had the same tweets, so im keeping cautious.

[The Guard]

I would imagine if there's a sequel it will be called JOHN CARTER OF MARS.

[squeekness]

Interview with Kitch...

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid871166280001?bckey=AQ%7E%7E%2CAAAAACkAQxo%7E% 2CJbFjHxgqCuak3gK2T7u3p0eDyamGmIu2&bctid=1410710205001That was great. :D

[TheGambler]

John Carter is the official movie sponsor of Super Bowl XLVI. Hopefully it will get a lot more attention with that:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9284/x2a948327.jpg

Plus, Disney just released this teaser with some cool new footage:

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[Project862006]

this film should do good at BO then sponsorship of the SB and also a tv spot

not to mention it really has no competition

[terry78]

March 9 is pretty open?

[matrix_ghost]

For 2 weeks it doesn't have any competition. If it's good and also has good WOM , those 2 weeks can work wonders.

[Project862006]

March 9 is pretty open?
3 movies have moved way from JC

The Raven
Mirror mirror
Think Like A Man

have all changed their release date

[terry78]

The only one that would really pose a threat is probably Think Like a Man since the book actually was a best seller.

[TheGambler]

Yeah, Think Like A Man and The Raven both moved away from March 9th release date. Mirror Mirror was supposed to come out a week later (March 16th) but now it will go against Wrath of the Titans. Basically everyone is moving away from JC, which I think is good. Could be that other studios know it will be really good so they are changing the dates for their films.

[ThePowerCosmic]

It's a big budget Disney movie. Of course those movies knew they wouldn't stand a chance.

[Rowsdower!]

You know, in a weird way, I think "John Carter Of Earth" would have been a more apt title. First of all, he IS from Earth and you hear Dejah call him that. Second, it kind of fills you with a sense of pride when you see this dude jump into a ravenous horde of monsters or swing a boulder on a chain into the face of Martian King Kong and you think "Yeah, this guy? He's from Earth. We can all pretty much do that on another planet's gravity..."



Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It actually has a nice ring to it because it establishes (to people unfamiliar with the books) that the main character is an earthling on another planet. You can probably grasp that just from calling it John Carter if you stop and think about it, but the initial reaction is more like, "Huh? How could his name be John Carter?" (This was the actual reaction from a friend of mine when she saw the trailer).

[TheGambler]

I actually really like the title as just "John Carter" for the first film. The thing is, fans will know what the film is about and who is this character, and as for those who are not familiar with the story, they will know everything when they watch the film. Stanton himself said that there is a very good reason why "Of Mars" was removed from the title (something happens, etc). He said that by the end of the film, the audience will understand the whole thing. He also mentioned that with a possible sequel, Mars will definitely be included.

From a marketing point of view, I would say that they made a rather great decision. I talked to couple of friends and told them everything about it, and while they are definitely interested, when I mentioned that it is based on the novel called A Princess of MARS, their reaction was rather comical, in a way. I don't know, I mean for a first film, I think it was a safe and good decision.

[Ratcrawler]

Yeah, I always thought "A Princess Of Mars" was a pretty lame title, right off the "A". Not "THE Princess of Mars"? Just some random "A" princess? How many Princesses are there on Mars anyway? (A ton, if you've read the series) "Under The Moons Of Mars" was a little better, IMO, if a little vague & awkward.

[TheGambler]

If they make a sequel, I would say John Carter And The Gods Of Mars, or John Carter: The Gods Of Mars would be a perfect title.

[mclay18]

Carney is getting to much of a bad wrap. She did some good things.

POTC4 (despite TheVileOne saying otherwise she was actually involved in the marketing for this), The Muppets, Tangled, War Horse, The Help, and The Avengers have/were handled well in the marketing sense.

Uh... the Dreamworks-produced movies (War Horse, The Help, et al) were marketed by a team hand-selected by Spielberg and Stacey Snider (not by Carney). Paramount marketed and distributed Thor and CA: First Avenger, the latter which had the first Avengers teaser.

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah, I always thought "A Princess Of Mars" was a pretty lame title, right off the "A". Not "THE Princess of Mars"? Just some random "A" princess? How many Princesses are there on Mars anyway? (A ton, if you've read the series) "Under The Moons Of Mars" was a little better, IMO, if a little vague & awkward.

LOL, Under the Moons of Mars sounds a little like a sappy Diane Lane chick flick where a middle-aged woman who is depressed about her love life goes about finding herself in a villa on another planet. :woot:

[Hunter Rider]

If she reads the Hype that script will be getting commissioned as I type. :D

[craigdbfan]

Uh... the Dreamworks-produced movies (War Horse, The Help, et al) were marketed by a team hand-selected by Spielberg and Stacey Snider (not by Carney). Paramount marketed and distributed Thor and CA: First Avenger, the latter which had the first Avengers teaser.

Uh...she was in charge of the worldwide marketing of all the movies I mentioned. You threw in Thor and CA:FA I haven't even mentioned those.

"Ms. Carney is not a household name, but she holds what is perhaps Hollywood’s most influential marketing position because it includes selling films worldwide from, in addition to Disney, Pixar, Marvel and Mr. Spielberg’s DreamWorks Studios."

NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/business/media/the-downfall-of-m-t-carney-disneys-marketing-manager.html?pagewanted=all)

Her team is handling efficient Oscar campaigns for “War Horse” and “The Help,” and a new trailer for “The Avengers” had more than 10 million iTunes downloads in its first 24 hours, a record at the time.

[TheGambler]

[/URL] (http://www.fandango.com/GlobalSearch.aspx?tab=Articles+Movies+People+Video&q=john+carter&repos=Movies)[URL="http://www.fandango.com/GlobalSearch.aspx?tab=Articles+Movies+People+Video&q=john+carter&repos=Movies"]Tickets are now available on Fandango (http://www.fandango.com/GlobalSearch.aspx?tab=Articles+Movies+People+Video&q=john+carter&repos=Movies).

[TheGambler]

Great news: According to Stanton, there will be another new trailer for JC before the release. So I guess we can expect a new trailer AND a Super Bowl spot.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Source?

[TheGambler]

Source?

Stanton's Twitter account (it's verified). Click HERE (https://twitter.com/#%21/andrewstanton/statuses/163002102250094592).

[ThePowerCosmic]

That's terrific news, thanks.

[dark_b]

i hate teasers for trailesr. or teasers for superbowl spots.

[TheGambler]

i hate teasers for trailesr. or teasers for superbowl spots.

We all hate that. Not sure why are studios doing that.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.itsartmag.com/features/johncarter-conceptart/

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3708/23178691.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/23178691.jpg/)

[TheGambler]

IMAX 3D poster featuring Sarkoja (http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/exclusive-john-carter-imax-3d-poster-premiere-690176.html):

http://images.fandango.com/images/fandangoblog/JCarterIMAX754.jpg

[terry78]

Somebody who has no knowledge of the book or seen any other media are gonna assume Tarkas is John Carter, watch.

[TheGambler]

Some awesome new footage in this featurette/trailer (video starts playing automatically):

http://disney.go.com/movies/index

It's a kids trailer, so that's why it has that voiceover, etc. But footage looks amazing, especially the jumping scenes.

[ThePowerCosmic]

"Did I not tell you that he could jump?!"

[TheWiseGuy487]

Some awesome new footage in this featurette/trailer (video starts playing automatically):

http://disney.go.com/movies/index

It's a kids trailer, so that's why it has that voiceover, etc. But footage looks amazing, especially the jumping scenes.

Okay, I was a little on the fence before, but I think that this trailer might have just convinced me to go see this.

[TheGambler]

Okay, I was a little on the fence before, but I think that this trailer might have just convinced me to go see this.

Great! There will be another new trailer soon, so I hope it will be amazing, and change people's mind about the film (for those who have doubts).

[squeekness]

That trailer was the best one so far for me! :) Can't wait!

[Blackman]

HAs there been any word for test screenings or anything like that

[CGHulk]

All I see when watching these trailers/clips is a guy in the desert with green lizard people and a dog that looks like a rock. Oh and funny looking flying machines and a girl wearing to much clothes!

[protocida]

^ There's been some test screenings, and they were apparently positive. The only criticism I've hear is that the prologue on Earth, before Carter ends up on Barsoom, goes on for too long.

[TheGambler]

So glad that Disney released this. Finally a mention of the novel. Some cool new footage in there too:

PROMO SPOT (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1101169010001?bckey=AQ%7E%7E,AAAA5-Ie6VE%7E,bGigDRe0kR3y-8HEEHayLub6_C_Fxvj7&bctid=1402497741001)

[Marvolo]

Why the hell is Disney so afraid to say that John Carter is on mars? In the superbowl spot he asks where he is and its followed with a question of whether he is from earth. Its been like that in almost every tv spot. Good god just tell everyone where he is!

[TheWiseGuy487]

Now THIS is how you do a Super Bowl movie promo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHwFzWDZb14
aHwFzWDZb14

I mean, if people weren't convinced before, they probably are now.

As for me, I'm seeing this on opening day.

[TheGambler]

WOW! Love that spot!

[Hunter Rider]

I'm ready for this movie!

[ThePowerCosmic]

Amazing... Welp, it's a wrap folks.

[terry78]

I'll probably check it out come next month. If only to see how accurate Stanton is to scenes from the book.

[Liam_H]

Taylor Kitsch at times sounds like James Franco to me.

[EML420]

Why the hell is Disney so afraid to say that John Carter is on mars? In the superbowl spot he asks where he is and its followed with a question of whether he is from earth. Its been like that in almost every tv spot. Good god just tell everyone where he is!
all I can think is that there last massive failure Mars needs Moms might have left a bad taste. But other than that I really dont know.

[Liam_H]

Could be that they don't want audiences thinking its a silly movie with aliens. They hit gold when they got people to go for pirate adventures. Now they're trying to do it with space adventures.

[Marvolo]

Could be that they don't want audiences thinking its a silly movie with aliens. They hit gold when they got people to go for pirate adventures. Now they're trying to do it with space adventures.

A person would have to be blind to know this doesn't have aliens and is on another world. That much is obvious. I'm just tired of them acting like they are ashamed of the fact it's on Mars.

[kickass]

That Superbowl spot was the best trailer so far. Might have to check this out afterall.

[Liam_H]

A person would have to be blind to know this doesn't have aliens and is on another world. That much is obvious. I'm just tired of them acting like they are ashamed of the fact it's on Mars.

Well they can't hide that its a movie in space with aliens. But they're trying to play up the angle that its an action/adventure movie with a male protagonist that just happens to include aliens.

With the POTC movies if all they advertised was Jack Sparrow bumbling around people might have been turned off. Ironically its the best part of those movies.

[samsnee]

I thought the spot was ok. It didn't really show anything that wasn't already in earlier trailers, or if it did, it didn't seem that memorable. I did like how it pulled back the images to reveal the title. I like Taylor Kitsch, but I think if a bigger name was in the lead, more people would be interested.

[Donut]

I was telling people as the spot aired last night that the movie takes place on Mars & they were like wtf Mars ? Great job there Disney

[matrix_ghost]

I wonder what everyone's reaction will be when this movie becomes a monster hit :oldrazz:

[Sebastos]

I can officially say I'm hyped for this movie, can't wait.

[Doctor Jones]

God, I want to get excited, but I'm still not. It's got great things going for it, but I can't get hyped.

[dark_b]

I wonder what everyone's reaction will be when this movie becomes a monster hit :oldrazz:it would mean more similar movies in the desert. bring it on :yay:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Loved the new spot, hope its as good as it looks.

[craigdbfan]

God, I want to get excited, but I'm still not. It's got great things going for it, but I can't get hyped.

That's how I feel.

With Wall-E it was the same. None of the advertising/marketing did anything for me but once I saw the actual movie I fell in love.

I'm hoping dearly that it's the same case with this movie where the promos do nothing for me but the actual movie blows my socks off.

[Project862006]

early test screening have been glowing tho

here is one review
http://thejohncarterfiles.com/blog/2012/01/09/test-screening-reviewer-posts-i-saw-john-carter-at-a-neilsen-screening-and-i-loved-it/

[Liam_H]

Its a fan site so I think I'll wait to hear more from other people.

[Project862006]

ok sure lol

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I like the look of this, doesnt look amazing or anything but looks good, and Lynn Collins looks amazingly hot in it also.

[dark_b]

she is so hot that the metal is melting.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Yep, didnt think she looked that nice in Wolverine but she looks amazing here.

[humbdrumb]

I get the fact that this is a hard film to market after Avatar and all, but the trailers and posters for this have been absolutely horrid. It's like Disney wants this movie to fail. I think Stanton will deliver a good film, but I'm not STOKED to go see it opening weekend, and I doubt the general public is either. The foreign market will probably make it profitable, but I'm not expecting anything over $400m.

[dark_b]

they dont want the movie to fail. they want to make money. the problem Disney has is that they dont like the idea behind this movie but they think it will make money.

i think its no problem that studios think about money. its a business. but studios should make movies that they belive in. that way tehy can make the best movie possible and promote it in the best way. this is not John Carter.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^It does seem that a lack of effort has been made in promoting it though, I am a huge film fan, especially sci-fi, and i'm not stoked for this at all, I am looking forward to it, but not desperate to see it like some other movies this year.

[TheGambler]

New international poster. I like it.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4412/3434y.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

^^^ I think that's the best poster so far for commercial purposes.

Exclusive New One-Minute TV Spot for John Carter! (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=86776)

[flickchick85]

Best spot yet. :up:

[TheGambler]

Whoa, that spot was amazing. Some VERY interesting stuff plot-wise. Can't wait.

[Motown Marvel]

Wow, yeah, that was by far the best spot.

[Kurosawa]

Excellent spot. If this movie is as good as it looks, word-of-mouth will be it's best friend...and word spreads fast nowadays. It may be a case of quality outdoing hype.

I hope so because I very much want it to succeed.

[Project862006]

YT Link to New TV Spot
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why did'nt they have this spot for the super bowl it kills the super bowl spot

this spot has him saying he is on Mars
Says he is from Earth
saying their world is dying and earth may be next
says he is their only hope

the 30 sec version for the SB Spot went by so fast and is hard to process everything

[rashad]

^Yep, didnt think she looked that nice in Wolverine but she looks amazing here.

I loved her since True Blood Season 1. Anyway the new spot was amazing.

[humbdrumb]

Well ****, that new spot just convinced me that this will be good. Getting more excited.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I loved her since True Blood Season 1. Anyway the new spot was amazing.

Never watched True Blood myself, first time I saw her was in Wolverine, but in JC she looks fantastic, amazing body.

[Motown Marvel]

i'm most curious if the movie is gonna have the balls to end with the same cliffhanger as the book.

[craigdbfan]

^^^ I think that's the best poster so far for commercial purposes.

Exclusive New One-Minute TV Spot for John Carter! (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=86776)

By far the best representation of the movie. Now I'm starting to see Stanton in this.

That shot of Earth and the moon was eerily beautiful.

[moviedoors]

By far the best representation of the movie. Now I'm starting to see Stanton in this.

That shot of Earth and the moon was eerily beautiful.

I pretty sure that's Phobos and Deimos.

[craigdbfan]

You're right. Astronomy fail on my part. :funny:

[TheGambler]

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/2594/41936710151239451250013.jpg

[TheGambler]

New "Battle" TV Spot:

NPrwGIIzCnY

Another great spot. ONE MONTH LEFT!

[TheVileOne]

I still think John Carter is a stupid title :) .

Peter Jackson and New Line didn't release Rings or The Lord. Or The King.

[TheGambler]

I still think John Carter is a stupid title :) .

Peter Jackson and New Line didn't release Rings or The Lord. Or The King.

It's not stupid at all. From a marketing and story point of view, it's perfect. And what's with the comparison to LOTR? Two very different stories and characters.

[squeekness]

New "Battle" TV Spot:

NPrwGIIzCnY

Another great spot. ONE MONTH LEFT!"If you can't stop them... your world could be next." Hmm... don't recall that from the books....

[ThePowerCosmic]

"If you can't stop them... your world could be next." Hmm... don't recall that from the books....

Yeah, I never read the books but when I heard that line I had a feeling they added it in. Maybe it gives John something important to fight for.

[Octoberist]

It's not stupid at all. From a marketing and story point of view, it's perfect. And what's with the comparison to LOTR? Two very different stories and characters.

John Carter of Mars would have been better but whatever.

With just John Carter it doesn't hide the fact it's a sci-fi epic. Disney only changed the title to a stupid exec who was recently fired.

[Motown Marvel]

"If you can't stop them... your world could be next." Hmm... don't recall that from the books....

its not in the book. in the movie, they're making the therns traveling from planet to planet conquering worlds. they're on mars in the movie with plans to conquer earth next.

[squeekness]

I have never minded changes in things, most often they are for the better. I was so pleased when they removed the giant squid thing from Watchmen, I mean, because... please. I don't mind if they change this up a bit. :)

[dark_b]

tv spot and superbowl music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F95ycryjD_M&list=UURrvfvcYkDQG8B-2c8YB0Sw&index=5&feature=plcp

[Ratcrawler]

There was a decent sPot on with Clone Wars last night too.

[TheGambler]

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9021/72489992.png

And this is on display at Barnes & Noble. Pretty cool:

https://p.twimg.com/AlZSSa7CAAEVTHk.jpg:large

[dark_b]

hahah how funny. only the movie book is without mars in the title.

[Karelia]

How come when I go into BAM I can't find any JC books? :( I wish I had a Barnes and Noble...

[Motown Marvel]

How come when I go into BAM I can't find any JC books? :( I wish I had a Barnes and Noble...

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/

[Rowsdower!]

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9021/72489992.png

Dominic West looks cool here and all, but he had better not bust out that stupid accent he had in Punisher: War Zone. :hehe:

[matrix_ghost]

If by some some miraculous reason John Carter actually makes anough money to warrant a sequel , i wonder if DIsney ( and Stanto) will take a different in order to keep the budget down.
It's no secret that the budget has increased far more. HOpefully if a sequel is made , Disney and Stanton might learn from their mistakes .

[dark_b]

i think it will depend what will be in the sequel. right now the 3D software doesnt change in 3 years so much so that you would need to update your 3D model. for example between LOTR 2 and 3 software changed in some way. so they needed to update gollum.they modeled from the beginning. they used a new technique. it was for the better. today i think almost everything is standard. 3d models are modeled with catmull subduvusion in mind. those models can be used in every 3D software that exists. textures are also standard. can be used in every 3d packcage. so even if they would change their 3D software every model could be used again. plus we can not forget that studios a lot of times raise the price. like with bread,cars,mobile phones,tv's,......

those are of course only effects. a lot of money is spent on the crew ,actors,directors. no actor or director will sign on a sequel if he doesnt get a bigger paycheck.and its the same with producers. this is not only about art. they try to get as much money as possible. after all its still work.

from a producers stand point the best way to lower the budget down is to replace the director,crew and all all actors around the main character. new actors,new director means lower paycheck. second step would be film as much as possible inside with greenscreen . on location we get more realistic enviorments.its hard to film actors inside for a desert. but inside with greenscreen its cheaper.

-replace actors,director,crew from first movie
-film inside as much as possible
-make the moive smaller in scope but manipulate the public in thinking its bigger
-less detailed and less realistic effects

the studio didnt make enough money with the first movie. so they try again with a smaller budget and make a sequel. but since the studio wants to make as much money as possible they still need to compromise teh story and make the movie simple for the general public. so we have a less- realistic- cheaper looking movie with a simple story( it had to be changed from the book since its a summer blockbuster movie) for the geenral public ( who didnt go crazy over the first movie). my question is .......why even bother? hehehe

:woot::up:

[Guhndoi]

For some reason I get the feeling it won't perform that great in the US. Elsewhere may be better. But we'll have to see. I read that people were worried about reshoots that Stanton did. But his reasoning behind it was the fact that at Pixar, they construct and deconstruct their movies three or four times before it's released, so they release the best possible movie. So that's what he did with John Carter. He wanted it to be the best possible movie, so he took what he learned from Pixar and did it here.

Ive never read the books, but I think this has potential. Finding Nemo and Wall-E are both very good animated movies and I like it when those who worked on animation get to do live action.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Mostly every movie has reshoots though. It's nothing to worry about.

[matrix_ghost]

i think it will depend what will be in the sequel. right now the 3D software doesnt change in 3 years so much so that you would need to update your 3D model. for example between LOTR 2 and 3 software changed in some way. so they needed to update gollum.they modeled from the beginning. they used a new technique. it was for the better. today i think almost everything is standard. 3d models are modeled with catmull subduvusion in mind. those models can be used in every 3D software that exists. textures are also standard. can be used in every 3d packcage. so even if they would change their 3D software every model could be used again. plus we can not forget that studios a lot of times raise the price. like with bread,cars,mobile phones,tv's,......

those are of course only effects. a lot of money is spent on the crew ,actors,directors. no actor or director will sign on a sequel if he doesnt get a bigger paycheck.and its the same with producers. this is not only about art. they try to get as much money as possible. after all its still work.

from a producers stand point the best way to lower the budget down is to replace the director,crew and all all actors around the main character. new actors,new director means lower paycheck. second step would be film as much as possible inside with greenscreen . on location we get more realistic enviorments.its hard to film actors inside for a desert. but inside with greenscreen its cheaper.

-replace actors,director,crew from first movie
-film inside as much as possible
-make the moive smaller in scope but manipulate the public in thinking its bigger
-less detailed and less realistic effects

the studio didnt make enough money with the first movie. so they try again with a smaller budget and make a sequel. but since the studio wants to make as much money as possible they still need to compromise teh story and make the movie simple for the general public. so we have a less- realistic- cheaper looking movie with a simple story( it had to be changed from the book since its a summer blockbuster movie) for the geenral public ( who didnt go crazy over the first movie). my question is .......why even bother? hehehe

:woot::up:


Word on the street is that Stanton's background was a cause for the budget increasing.
Planning can make a big difference when trying to manage the budget.

[dark_b]

interesting. so they didnt plan enough?

[TheGambler]

Actually, I would say they planned too much, if that makes sense. Stanton is a very clever guy, and in number of interviews (especially the one with Empire Magazine) he said that from the start he told Disney that he will do reshoots after the principal photography is finished. He wanted to shoot the movie on real location as much as possible, so they wouldn't have to make background all CG. Which is a good idea, because THEN it would cost a lot more than what they spent on the film now. Budget started with $200M, and after reshoots (which studio knew it will happen, of course) final budget ended up between $220M AND $250M, I think. All I know is that Stanton worked on this thing for over 5 years now, and if anything, I'm sure it will be a really good film.

Saying that, here is a new review from a person who saw the film at the distributor screening (it's on a JC of Mars forum, but The JC Files put it together) and once again it's a positive one. Gave it 4/5.

http://thejohncarterfiles.com/blog/2012/02/12/advance-screening-review-john-carter-historical-emotional-45-stars/

Disney already had a couple of test screenings, and from what I've heard everyone enjoyed it. If word-of-mouth is good before the release, I can see good opening weekend.

[Asgard]

Ok, so I saw the spot, and they have this John Carter guy doing some superhuman leaping. Is it because the gravity on Mars is lower than Earth's?

[Project862006]

^yes