Alan Taylor: The Director of Thor 2!

[RealIrOnMaN]

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Marvel Studios has found its Thor 2 director. I’m told that Marvel has set Alan Taylor, who was widely rumored to be on the short list to replace Patty Jenkins. Taylor is an accomplished TV director whose recent credits include Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire and Nurse Jackie, and he directed the feature Palookaville. Jenkins got the job but then fell out over differences with Marvel on the sequel.

This will put the film back on track to meet its November 15, 2013 release date.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/12/thor-2-director-will-be-game-of-thrones-helmer-alan-taylor/

[Gamma Burst]

Nice!Glad to see they already found the new director.;)
Thanks for the news, RIM!

[SuperSAINT]

Can't fault his TV credits. He's worked on some fairly wonderful stuff.

Welcome aboard Alan. Please do us proud.

[HighFivingMF]

Never seen anything he's done. So whatever. At least the movie's still happening.

[LuisTX85]

Cool news to me!

[T"Challa]

He's worked on mad men, lost, game of thrones,boardwalk empire and the sopranos..dude has a hell of a tv resume..let's see what he can do on the big screen

[cherokeesam]

Yeah, definitely can't find fault with his TV work. He's directed some great episodes on some absolutely amazing HBO/cable series, and even garnered an Emmy for it. He's had very little real feature work, other than 3 virtually unknown indies, but the work he's done on TV, especially most recently with Game of Thrones, proves that he's certainly capable of delivering a powerful story about warring kings and broken families.

My major concern with going after the Game of Thrones crowd, though, is (as I've posted elsewhere) that I don't want Thor straying too far from the superhero genre into the high fantasy zone. I sincerely hope that Thor 2 stays close to his superhero roots, and keeps the thunder god firmly rooted in Midgard and allows him to maintain friendships and relationships with the mortals there, instead of turning this franchise into another LOTR.

[04nbod]

Pfftt...as if a man could do this kind of movie.

[terry78]

I won't lie, I wanted to see what Jenkins had in store for the character this time around. But Taylor's resume speaks volumes. Game of Thrones I know is the big thing now, but watch this man's Sopranos episodes. Genius.

[Randal Graves]

He directed the best Game of Thrones episode.

[Splat]

Hell yeah! He should do a fantastic job.

[BigThor]

I was always pretty wary of Jenkins directing THOR 2, I'm alot more comfortable with this choice.

So who's episodes of Game of Thrones episodes do you all think were the best, Alan Taylor's or Daniel Minahan's?

[Casius--J]

Well I've seen all the Game of Thrones episodes and Lost but I don't know which he directed but I can't think of any GOT episodes which i didnt like so I'm quite happy with this news.

He actually sounds like a better choice than Patty Jenkins if I'm honest.

[itchyscratch]

Yay! Very happy that a director has been appointed.

[R_Hythlodeus]

interesting choice and a nice christmas gift from MS.

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Yeah, definitely can't find fault with his TV work. He's directed some great episodes on some absolutely amazing HBO/cable series, and even garnered an Emmy for it. He's had very little real feature work, other than 3 virtually unknown indies, but the work he's done on TV, especially most recently with Game of Thrones, proves that he's certainly capable of delivering a powerful story about warring kings and broken families.

My major concern with going after the Game of Thrones crowd, though, is (as I've posted elsewhere) that I don't want Thor straying too far from the superhero genre into the high fantasy zone. I sincerely hope that Thor 2 stays close to his superhero roots, and keeps the thunder god firmly rooted in Midgard and allows him to maintain friendships and relationships with the mortals there, instead of turning this franchise into another LOTR.


I feel the exact opposite. I actually wouldn't mind if this series became more fantasy oriented. Another LOTR sounds great to me. My favorite parts of Thor were the mythological parts. The stuff of kings and all that. I found the fish out of water/human part of Thor to be very dull actually.

I greatly preferred the fantasy, and I hope he does bring his Game of Thrones influence with him on this project. This becoming a high fantasy epic sounds great to me. :up:

[Rac]

I don't expect anything from this film.

[Son of Coul]

^thanks for the info^

[Gamma Burst]

I expect a lot from this movie. ;)

[jonathancrane]

I feel the exact opposite. I actually wouldn't mind if this series became more fantasy oriented. Another LOTR sounds great to me. My favorite parts of Thor were the mythological parts. The stuff of kings and all that. I found the fish out of water/human part of Thor to be very dull actually.

I greatly preferred the fantasy, and I hope he does bring his Game of Thrones influence with him on this project. This becoming a high fantasy epic sounds great to me. :up:

I feel the same way.
While I am disappointed about Jenkins' departure, I feel Taylor will do a fine job. I just hope he is given some breathing room.

[Nave 'Torment']

I think that they chose Taylor as an easy decision after Jenkins. He's "qualified" because he was involved in a similar genre on TV, and he's "accustomed to making films in a short time" (paraphrasing SHH here).

Those aren't what I'd call Asgardian levels of worthiness :p The House of Ideas seems to be clinched to their version of the story. After Branagh, Taylor seems like a step down to me, unfortunately :| Hopefully he'll bring some sense of familial dysfunction that he did in Palooka , but I highly doubt that's why the studio hired him. HIGHLY.

My reaction is a lot like when Nicolas Winding Refn was voicing how he's the most capable director for Wonder Woman (http://www.**************.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=46694), and simultaneously saying that the character has no rogues gallery, that her villains need to be created anew, and that the central theme would be relevant today since it's women being more powerful than men. ... ... ... a Picardian face-palm isn't even enough to express the amount of fail in it.

Maybe I'm reacting too much, but Taylor... just seems to be the guy you'd go to since others are booked. Brian Kirk was shortlisted too, don't see him anymore. Am I the only one who's reminded of how similarly Brett Ratner was handed the job back in 2005?

[Nave 'Torment']

Yeah, definitely can't find fault with his TV work. He's directed some great episodes on some absolutely amazing HBO/cable series, and even garnered an Emmy for it. He's had very little real feature work, other than 3 virtually unknown indies, but the work he's done on TV, especially most recently with Game of Thrones, proves that he's certainly capable of delivering a powerful story about warring kings and broken families.

My major concern with going after the Game of Thrones crowd, though, is (as I've posted elsewhere) that I don't want Thor straying too far from the superhero genre into the high fantasy zone. I sincerely hope that Thor 2 stays close to his superhero roots, and keeps the thunder god firmly rooted in Midgard and allows him to maintain friendships and relationships with the mortals there, instead of turning this franchise into another LOTR.

I actually agree with this. And this is coming from a big LOTR / fantasy fan. Thor isn't simply a story about high-fantasy and the last film struggled to balance that. If you don't have the amount of Kirby-esque science fiction involved it just wouldn't be a Thor movie. It's less to do with the superhero genre than it has to do with mixing science and fantasy. While a more fantasy-laden take on the characters is always welcome, it shouldn't do away with the strong science fictional beats that it carries with it.

Branagh was a brilliant director who understood that mix. He saw it in the close focus on characters. I was certain that someone who is concerned with the human drama of things, such as Jenkins, understood that. The choice of Taylor, as brilliant as he has been in GoT, just sounds like a solution to a problem rather than a director with a vision.

I expect MORE from this.

[BigThor]

^^^ This post has no relation to the post above me, I'm just speaking in general.

Jenkins may have won an Oscar for "Monster" but that doesn't necessarily mean she was qualified for a film like THOR 2.

An "out of the box" choice isn't always the best choice, I'm already getting sick of people putting down Alan Taylor because Jenkins was a "radical" choice.

[Godzilla2000]

Well, I'm just going to be patient before passing judgement on the new directorial choice. There's no sense getting all in a foam over something as trivial as a new director anyway.

[Nave 'Torment']

Sure, especially since it seems that the director has become the most trivial part of the movie :(

I'm not saying that Taylor isn't capable or anything like that, I haven't seen him do his thing yet so I don't know. What upsets me is how Marvel Studios made the decision to choose Taylor. The how of it says a lot about what the studio has in mind: complaisance.

[Godzilla2000]

Sure, especially since it seems that the director has become the most trivial part of the movie :(

I'm not saying that Taylor isn't capable or anything like that, I haven't seen him do his thing yet so I don't know. What upsets me is how Marvel Studios made the decision to choose Taylor. The how of it says a lot about what the studio has in mind: complaisance.

Listen, what I'm saying is that it's just a movie. Why are we getting all worked up about this? It's not life threatening so I'm not going to worry about it. i'll just wait and see how everything turns out before I speak my opinions on the sequel's merit.

[Still A ThorFan]

I hope they stay away from Midgard. And now to do something about that Don Payne fella....

[Mysteryman]

Congaratulations to Mr. Taylor.
I hope we continue to get a balanced mix of Asgard and Midgard as we did with Branagh.

[Son of Coul]

I hope they stay away from Midgard. And now to do something about that Don Payne fella....

Last I heard they were hiring someone to do a rewrite actually

[BigThor]

Listen, what I'm saying is that it's just a movie. Why are we getting all worked up about this? It's not life threatening so I'm not going to worry about it. i'll just wait and see how everything turns out before I speak my opinions on the sequel's merit.

Exactly :up:

[Gamma Burst]

Listen, what I'm saying is that it's just a movie. Why are we getting all worked up about this? It's not life threatening so I'm not going to worry about it. i'll just wait and see how everything turns out before I speak my opinions on the sequel's merit.

Nice post.:up:

[kedrell]

I see nothing about this decision that would make me worry(and I was fully on board Jenkins's out-of-the-box choice as well). Now if they can just get Roger Avary to do the re-write then I'll be all smiles.

[R_Hythlodeus]

So, with a new director finally attached, how long until we get casting news? 4 months? 6 months? what do you think?

[HighFivingMF]

So, with a new director finally attached, how long until we get casting news? 4 months? 6 months? what do you think?

I'm gonna guess 5, with Iron Man 3 news in about 3. Just a guess though.

[Gamma Burst]

5 months sound about right.

[Suzanne78]

I see Taylor directed the GoT finale, which was so much win I could hardly stand it. While I should be worried about his lack of a feature film resume, I basically watch every show he's been involved with, so I'm definitely gonna give him a chance.

Wasn't David Yates primarily a British television director before landing the Harry Potter franchise as well?

[Dr.]

Jenkins may have won an Oscar for "Monster"...

She didn't.

[Shadowlord X]

I think Theron won an Oscar for her portrayal in Monster. Did PJ even get nominated?

[T"Challa]

I think Theron won an Oscar for her portrayal in Monster. Did PJ even get nominated?

Theron won best actress and deservedly so. She was brilliant in that movie. Monster was a very good flick but it wasn't some amazing piece of cinema. It wasn't nominated for anything other than Best actress

[T"Challa]

Speaking of Theron, am i the only one who thinks she would make a great Enchantress?..just throwing it out there

[Gamma Burst]

Speaking of Theron, am i the only one who thinks she would make a great Enchantress?..just throwing it out there

No, you're not alone on this.:)

[Shadowlord X]

Speaking of Theron, am i the only one who thinks she would make a great Enchantress?..just throwing it out there


It's not a bad idea....although Theron on Hemsworth sounds a bit cougarish.

[Gamma Burst]

It's not a bad idea....although Theron on Hemsworth sounds a bit cougarish.

I like cougarish.:D

[R_Hythlodeus]

she's not that old and looks younger anyway..

[Son of Coul]

I don't care if it turns out she's 100 years old, no one (especially me) can resist Charlize Theron.

[Shadowlord X]

I don't care if it turns out she's 100 years old, no one (especially me) can resist Charlize Theron.

Then if she gets the role shall we call you 'The Executioner'?:yay:

[HighFivingMF]

I have a request. I've only read some of the early Lee/Kirby Thor stories and JMS's run. So could someone give me a quick schooling on what Enchantress and The Executioner are all about please?

[Son of Coul]

lthen if she gets the role shall we call you 'the executioner'?:yay:

YES

[kedrell]

I have a request. I've only read some of the early Lee/Kirby Thor stories and JMS's run. So could someone give me a quick schooling on what Enchantress and The Executioner are all about please?


As I understand it, Enchantress has a real 'fatal attraction' vibe for Thor.

[Superhero 101]

I am so happy that they got Taylor to direct

[BigThor]

She didn't.

True, but she played a part in bringing an excellent performance out of Theron just as Branagh helped bring out the best in Hemsworth & Hiddleston.

So while she didn't necessarily win the Oscar, she still played a vital part in Theron winning hers.

[Vartha]

oooo Nice choice!

[Sgt.Pepper]

I'm just glad they've finally settled on a director. I've seen most of his work and he has a lot of experience (compare to Daniel Minahan), so I guess he's up to the task to direct this movie.

[BigThor]

You say he's more experienced than Daniel Minahan? That's good to hear, I'm glad they went with the most experienced choice.

[Sgt.Pepper]

Well to me, his resume seems more impressive than Minahan. Speaking of which, I hope Marvel appoints the new writer soon.

[cherokeesam]

It's not a bad idea....although Theron on Hemsworth sounds a bit cougarish.


"Cougarish" works just fine for Enchantress. :)

[BigThor]

Well to me, his resume seems more impressive than Minahan. Speaking of which, I hope Marvel appoints the new writer soon.

Now that's what I'm waitin for :woot:

[04nbod]

I have a request. I've only read some of the early Lee/Kirby Thor stories and JMS's run. So could someone give me a quick schooling on what Enchantress and The Executioner are all about please?


Enchantress can have any man she wants but Thor isn't interested and it drives her mad. She is desperate to get him and uses Executioner's love for her to get him to do her dirty work.

That was the premise but as with most of Thor's original premise it went down the toilet when they actually hooked up in the 90's and it read like the writer's fantasy unrestrained. :doh:

[Godzilla2000]

"Cougarish" works just fine for Enchantress. :)

Did I read someone typing "Cougarish"? :awesome:

[OsGom]

My major concern with going after the Game of Thrones crowd, though, is (as I've posted elsewhere) that I don't want Thor straying too far from the superhero genre into the high fantasy zone. I sincerely hope that Thor 2 stays close to his superhero roots, and keeps the thunder god firmly rooted in Midgard and allows him to maintain friendships and relationships with the mortals there, instead of turning this franchise into another LOTR.

I am disappointed that Jenkins passed as I thought her style might add some depth the relationships and dynamics in the film. However, I don't really have a problem with Taylor. As long as he sticks fairly close to the source material and can adequetely adapt a few kick ass action sequences.

Actually I prefer Thor to get a little more "fantastical" than the previous installment. Marvel already indicated that he would spend time exploring the other realms and I think the story and director are safe embracing more of the fantasy elements of Thor's story.

I kind of envision a fantasy/romance style story as Thor tries to find Jane who has become lost amongst the realms. I feel like Branagh kind of set the table for such a tale and we just need a capable director to bring it home.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Never seen anything the guy has directed so couldnt honestly judge, seems a bit of an underwhelming choice but we'll see.

[BigThor]

I still think Alan Taylor directing credits make him a more logical choice for THOR 2 than Jenkins, although logical choices aren't always the best ones.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Yeah, again we'll see, its a shame they couldnt get the guy who directed Solomon Kane, Michael J.Bassett that was a great fantasy movie that was pretty similar to Thor in a lot of ways, so I think he could have done a great job and he has directed a few features.

Think he is doing the Silent Hill sequel though so not sure he would have had the time.

[Shadowlord X]

Solomon Kane was ok IMO; its narrative meandered too much derailing the pacing.

[Silvermoth]

"Cougarish" works just fine for Enchantress. :)

Well, Taylor also worked on "Sex and the City" made we can get "Amourous in Asgard" featuring Enchantress, Sif, Valkyrie and Frigga!

[Nave 'Torment']

Listen, what I'm saying is that it's just a movie. Why are we getting all worked up about this? It's not life threatening so I'm not going to worry about it. i'll just wait and see how everything turns out before I speak my opinions on the sequel's merit.

Ah, okay. Apologies then, but to be fair I wasn't GETTING all that riled up for it. At least not as much as you're thinking. Honest. :)

Do I care about who's directing the film though? Absolutely. That isn't coming from fanboy extremism, at least not from my part.

I just don't see Thor as a film that's purely justified if it's a categorised in the fantasy genre. It has too many sci-fi backdrops in its core idea.

[Nave 'Torment']

Admittedly, more emotions are boiling in that other thread with Jenkins and Portman.

[Aeltri]

Enchantress can have any man she wants but Thor isn't interested and it drives her mad. She is desperate to get him and uses Executioner's love for her to get him to do her dirty work.

Amora can't seem to keep any man she wants, just like her sister couldn't. Loki dated Lorelei but quickly threw her to the curb, it seemed like he took Sygin a lot more seriously. Amora's whole thing with Heimdall didn't pan out either and Skurge prefered to die a warrior's death instead of letting her string him along. Thor loved Jane, a mortal who was considerably less attractive than Amora. The Enchantress is living proof that looks can't make up for serious personality flaws.

[Nave 'Torment']

i think marvel is confused about what to do with their properties. it's almost as if they're confused about their genres...

thor isn't simply a fantasy fable ala CONAN. yes, granted it has more of those elements than his other avenger buddies, and it does make him understandably more unique, like the world of tech is to ironman, but THOR as a tale is much more than that. Alan Taylor should undersand that when he's directing the piece

[The Morningstar]

If anything, I think Taylor will bring a much harder, more violent edge to Thor. Which it desperately needs. I do like the first film, but it was too kid friend and fluffy, no real sense of danger.

Thor, whilst a superhero yea, is a Norse warrior who smashes people around with a ridiculously sized hammer. There needs to be an edge of grittiness and violence to his stories, along with the fantastical.

[cherokeesam]

i think marvel is confused about what to do with their properties. it's almost as if they're confused about their genres...

thor isn't simply a fantasy fable ala CONAN. yes, granted it has more of those elements than his other avenger buddies, and it does make him understandably more unique, like the world of tech is to ironman, but THOR as a tale is much more than that. Alan Taylor should undersand that when he's directing the piece


I'm sure Taylor does. When he directs Game of Thrones, he clearly isn't focused on the Tolkien side of it --- he could care less about the swords & sorcery stuff. He's more interested in the drama and the character interactions. And I'm sure that's what we'll see from him in Thor 2. Too.

[04nbod]

i think marvel is confused about what to do with their properties. it's almost as if they're confused about their genres...

thor isn't simply a fantasy fable ala CONAN. yes, granted it has more of those elements than his other avenger buddies, and it does make him understandably more unique, like the world of tech is to ironman, but THOR as a tale is much more than that. Alan Taylor should undersand that when he's directing the piece

Thor especially sees writers bring what they think the property should be rather than what it is. So you get writers who completely leap on the idea of the fact its a myth, or that its like The Lord of the Rings, very few these days especially seem to grasp the Sci Fi aspect of it or the superhero aspect. Lots of Thor's earliest earthly villains were given away to other chracters.

They want to write mythic Thor rather than Marvel's Thor in short and that just isn't the point. Thor's character goes down the toilet when he's make a hotheaded, promiscuous brute like his namesake.

[Gamma Burst]

If anything, I think Taylor will bring a much harder, more violent edge to Thor. Which it desperately needs. I do like the first film, but it was too kid friend and fluffy, no real sense of danger.

Thor, whilst a superhero yea, is a Norse warrior who smashes people around with a ridiculously sized hammer. There needs to be an edge of grittiness and violence to his stories, along with the fantastical.

That's exactly what I want to see, mate!:up:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I have recently started watching GOT but havent gotten to an episode Alan has directed yet. I look forward to doing so though just to see if he has a certain style in which he directs.

Basically I just wanna see what he has in his locker but GOT as a whole seems a good basis for a Thor movie, though obviously more sci-fi elements would need adding.

[BigThor]

That's exactly what I want to see, mate!:up:

Same here :up:

[Saitou Hajime]

I don't know why GoT (and by extension, a GoT director's Thor) is thought of as Tolkien or high fantasy. The most overtly fantastical element in the series are the dragons, and they don't show up until later and are only a part of the overall tapestry. Its always been about the drama and character interactions.

[Gamma Burst]

I don't know why GoT (and by extension, a GoT director's Thor) is thought of as Tolkien or high fantasy. The most overtly fantastical element in the series are the dragons, and they don't show up until later and are only a part of the overall tapestry. Its always been about the drama and character interactions.

Yeah, I never got why people made that comparison. Personally, I can't stand LoTR or anything related to it. On the other hand, I'm a big GoT fan!

[BigThor]

I don't know why GoT (and by extension, a GoT director's Thor) is thought of as Tolkien or high fantasy. The most overtly fantastical element in the series are the dragons, and they don't show up until later and are only a part of the overall tapestry. Its always been about the drama and character interactions.

For some reason people seem to associate anything fantasy with Lord of The Rings

[Shadowlord X]

It's the most well known fantasy and one of the few that's achieved great BO success.

[Vartha]

Yeah, I never got why people made that comparison. Personally, I can't stand LoTR or anything related to it. On the other hand, I'm a big GoT fan!
Really, why don't you like LotR?
It's one of my fave films. Not that I'm judging you or trying to sway you. lol

[Gamma Burst]

Really, why don't you like LotR?
It's one of my fave films. Not that I'm judging you or trying to sway you. lol

LOL. No problem at all. I can't explain it, but I never found the story and/or the characters compelling. I admit the movies were very well done, though.

[Vartha]

For some reason people seem to associate anything fantasy with Lord of The Rings
Well yeah for the most part alot of the classic Fantasy books came from the same era. Tho many people say things like Dugeons and Dragons are based on LotR/Tolkein books.


heh some people get downright ticked when you bring up the fact that Tolkein was a history nut too so Norse myth, the Beowulf saga and so on are some of the oldest fantasy stories, that were told around campfires

[Nave 'Torment']

yeah i dont get that either - LoTR seems to be the staple for fantasy, and as a diehard fan im not complaining but.... LotR is among the more mature or serious fantasies out there. Tolkien was more than conscious about mythopoesy (myth-making), heck i think he popularised it for modern audiences. such an intimate understanding of fantasy isnt there when it comes to the vast majority of people making / writing stories in the genre.

Thor, at least Marvel's Thor, has only ever been that deep under the hands of certain creators, but even then it approaches myth-making from an entirely different approach than Tolkien. The most immediate one being Thor's definition of the Nordic Gods as space-beings, and LoTR's characters more or less echoing the myths to form their own mythology. The two are more different than alike, and I'm a big fan to both.

[Nave 'Torment']

I'm sure Taylor does. When he directs Game of Thrones, he clearly isn't focused on the Tolkien side of it --- he could care less about the swords & sorcery stuff. He's more interested in the drama and the character interactions. And I'm sure that's what we'll see from him in Thor 2. Too.

but how much of it is Taylor's own emphasis, and how much is it derived from the source material?

Thor especially sees writers bring what they think the property should be rather than what it is. So you get writers who completely leap on the idea of the fact its a myth, or that its like The Lord of the Rings, very few these days especially seem to grasp the Sci Fi aspect of it or the superhero aspect. Lots of Thor's earliest earthly villains were given away to other chracters.

They want to write mythic Thor rather than Marvel's Thor in short and that just isn't the point. Thor's character goes down the toilet when he's make a hotheaded, promiscuous brute like his namesake.

I think that Branagh understood that bridge very well in the first film. You have this delicate balance between the two and it's there and it's immediately respectful of both mythologies (Nordic and Comic). And that's really a very difficult thing to accomplish within the course of 2 and some hours! That Sci Fi aspect is really as important to Marvel-Thor as the mythical stuff. At least that's the way anything Kirby works.

[Gamma Burst]

but how much of it is Taylor's own emphasis, and how much is it derived from the source material?



I think that Branagh understood that bridge very well in the first film. You have this delicate balance between the two and it's there and it's immediately respectful of both mythologies (Nordic and Comic). And that's really a very difficult thing to accomplish within the course of 2 and some hours! That Sci Fi aspect is really as important to Marvel-Thor as the mythical stuff. At least that's the way anything Kirby works.

Very true.

[Still A ThorFan]

I got my wish. Robert Rodat is writing. I hope he throws Don Payne's script in the garbage. Not even worth looking at I bet.

[BigThor]

That's not gonna happen, he's doing a rewrite which means he's just making changes to Don's script.

[cherokeesam]

That's not gonna happen, he's doing a rewrite which means he's just making changes to Don's script.


Yeah, but *all* Don Payne's scripts need rewrites. MAJOR rewrites. How he keeps getting work in feature films is beyond me.

[Silvermoth]

Yeah, but *all* Don Payne's scripts need rewrites. MAJOR rewrites. How he keeps getting work in feature films is beyond me.

He must have a nice smile. Oh well, hopefully Alan and Rodat know what they're doing.

[BigThor]

Oh well, hopefully Alan and Rodat know what they're doing.

Yeah let's all hope they're able to make this even better than the first while still maintaining foundation that was laid.

[04nbod]

People are too hard on Don Payne. He will have sat in a room with the marvel creative committee hammering out the plot scene by scene before he even wrote the dialogue.

[gkokujin]

LOL. No problem at all. I can't explain it, but I never found the story and/or the characters compelling. I admit the movies were very well done, though.

very understandable. I never grew up with the series, saw the animated hobbit movie ONCE as a child in the 80s, and now i have no loyalty to the movies.

i don't hate them, its just another epic that i know nothing about...like Harry Potter.

[Gamma Burst]

very understandable. I never grew up with the series, saw the animated hobbit movie ONCE as a child in the 80s, and now i have no loyalty to the movies.

i don't hate them, its just another epic that i know nothing about...like Harry Potter.

Another franchise I couldn't care less about. Never could get into it either... :/

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah let's all hope they're able to make this even better than the first while still maintaining foundation that was laid.

Thats what i'm hoping, I dont want another Iron Man 2 situation were the sequel is a significant step down from the first movie.

Another franchise I couldn't care less about. Never could get into it either... :/

Same here, just could not get into Harry Potter at all.

[Vartha]

It's like Conan to ME. Both the 80's version and the new one are about Conan but almost look entirely different from one another.

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Yeah, but *all* Don Payne's scripts need rewrites. MAJOR rewrites. How he keeps getting work in feature films is beyond me.

And how Disney allows some little dictator to run around Marvel Studios and seemingly alienate much of the talent he comes into contact with is head scratching to say the least. I'm expecting news in the next month that they are again searching for another director. A Shame. After the great momentum that the first film created, they are doing their best to shoot themselves in the foot.

[Son of Coul]

:dry:

[Nave 'Torment']

I wonder how the Saving Private Ryan-writer will change things? Are we to immediately assume that this will be a war-centric blockbuster?

[Silvermoth]

I don't think so. Not with Alan Taylor in charge. War will probably be an element of it but I don't think it will be a war centric movie.

[kedrell]

Yeah, but *all* Don Payne's scripts need rewrites. MAJOR rewrites. How he keeps getting work in feature films is beyond me.

Well some writers are better at certain things than they are at others. Some are good at getting the entire big picture ideas out there but rather suck at the small things like dialogue. And some are the converse. Sometimes you basically have to piece the whole thing together so hopefully you keep the great big idea stuff while making it all very natural via the clever and inventive dialogue, etc.

This is often why many writers work in pairs. Each having their own unique strengths they bring to the script.

[cherokeesam]

Well some writers are better at certain things than they are at others. Some are good at getting the entire big picture ideas out there but rather suck at the small things like dialogue. And some are the converse. Sometimes you basically have to piece the whole thing together so hopefully you keep the great big idea stuff while making it all very natural via the clever and inventive dialogue, etc.

This is often why many writers work in pairs. Each having their own unique strengths they bring to the script.


....And then some writers are hired exclusively to write pop-culturally relevant throwaway sitcom dialogue. :cwink:

[04nbod]

I wonder how the Saving Private Ryan-writer will change things? Are we to immediately assume that this will be a war-centric blockbuster?

He also wrote Fly Away Home. :woot:

[kedrell]

....And then some writers are hired exclusively to write pop-culturally relevant throwaway sitcom dialog. :cwink:

Yep, that happens too. I'm a would-be writer and I already know that my particular strengths do not lie in dialog. I'm better at the over-all story/big picture stuff. I can tell bad dialog/delivery when I hear/see it but I can't create it to save my life.

I'm just saying that maybe Don Payne has/had something worthwhile to contribute that they may be further building upon.

IMO a terrible writer is one who doesn't know his/her own limitations. Goyer is another guy for example who's good at over-all ideas for a story but can't do much with the nitty-gritty. That's where Jonathan Nolan(and Chris) fill in the gaps.

[Gamma Burst]

:dry:

Alexei in disguise?:D

[Vartha]

heh technically the first movie had I think over 10 writers on it.

[Still A ThorFan]

I just saw some clips from Snowwhite and the Huntsman. That movie looks more bad ass than Thor did, that pisses me off. Hell, even Hemsworth looked cooler in that movie than he did in Thor.

I hope Marvel gets their stuff together and stop with this kiddie b.s and make something epic. I know they know that's what we want.

[Son of Coul]

The contrast of this:
I hope Marvel gets their stuff together and stop with this kiddie b.s and make something epic. I know they know that's what we want.

followed immediately by this:
Thor says to Hulk during battle

Thor: As strong as thee monster? NAY! I BE STRONGER!
made me :funny:

[Gamma Burst]

The contrast of this:


followed immediately by this:

made me :funny:

Classic line from Defenders #10 ,mate!:awesome:

[BigThor]

I just saw some clips from Snowwhite and the Huntsman. That movie looks more bad ass than Thor did, that pisses me off. Hell, even Hemsworth looked cooler in that movie than he did in Thor.

Yeah it's too bad no one in Snowhite and the Huntsman can call down lightning, tornadoes, and send 10 ft monsters flying hundreds of feet.

The contrast of this:

followed immediately by this:

made me :funny:

What's so funny about that?

[EML420]

Whats the general thought about Taylor being the director around here?

I admit I am a little sad that Branagh cant direct again is there any truth to that he left because of how fast he would have to work on it?

(side note im still suprised at how good Thor turned out espically with a director who hadnt done any thing like it so I have faith in Taylor to do good.)

[Avenger]

The only work of his that I've seen is his episodes on Game of Thrones, which he's done a solid job on. He seems to have pretty good instincts and a good eye, and he seems to get pretty good performances out of his actors. I think he'll do fine.

[BigThor]

Whats the general thought about Taylor being the director around here?

I admit I am a little sad that Branagh cant direct again is there any truth to that he left because of how fast he would have to work on it?

(side note im still suprised at how good Thor turned out espically with a director who hadnt done any thing like it so I have faith in Taylor to do good.)

At first it was "OMG Marvel is going the cheap route again", but now most posters are excited about what he brings to the table.

[EML420]

Just because the guy comes from a big tv back round doesnt mean any thing bad every director has got to get there start some where.

Buts its good to know hes done stuff kinda like this Game Of Thrones.

[BigThor]

Just because the guy comes from a big tv back round doesnt mean any thing bad every director has got to get there start some where.

Buts its good to know hes done stuff kinda like this Game Of Thrones.

Yeah I agree, I've been feeling the exact same way from the get go.

[Silvermoth]

I'm fasinated by the idea of Marvel seeking television creative staff now more than cinematic talent. I wonder if that's a logical part of working in a shared universe.

Television staff are more likely to work as a team whereas a movie director kind of has a 'THIS IS MY VISION!!!!' approach maybe?

I'm looking forward to what results could come about from this.

[Superhero 101]

I am confident that Taylor will make a really good director for a Thor film especially with all the Asgardian stuff I mean the episodes from GOT that i like are all directed by him

[Sgt.Pepper]

Not to mention his top notch episodes for The Sopranos, Mad Men & Boardwalk Empire. I hope he can bring the perfect balance of fantasy and realism found in Game of Thrones to Thor 2.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think on GOT he handles the fantasy elements and actors really well, but sometimes his story-telling is a bit long winded and he throws unnecessary parts in.

BUT, thats probably more of a fault with the book moreso than the director, so hopefully with a coherent script we get a great movie.

[Tony Stark]

I think on GOT he handles the fantasy elements and actors really well, but sometimes his story-telling is a bit long winded and he throws unnecessary parts in.

BUT, thats probably more of a fault with the book moreso than the director, so hopefully with a coherent script we get a great movie.

Yeah I was going to say, because the TV show is pretty much direct from the book. I'm not sure what you're referring to as "unnecessary parts". George R.R. Martin is executive producer and wrote the screenplay himself. The book elaborates on stuff a bit more, but it's pretty much straight out of the book.

[Raiden]

I'm a huge fan of GOT so I'm glad Taylor got the gig. I read that Hemsworth became a GOT fan as well, so I'm sure he's excited to have Taylor onboard to direct the sequel. Hopefully Portman will simmer down and realize that Marvel made the right decision for the director, instead of going for the one she recommended.

[Vartha]

Well I HOPE they all calm down. WE did with the loss of Kenneth :D

[spideymouse]

Just because the guy comes from a big tv back round doesnt mean any thing bad every director has got to get there start some where.

Buts its good to know hes done stuff kinda like this Game Of Thrones.

Yeah, and the TV shows he has directed have been critically acclaimed dramas. It's not like he's a director of some quirky sitcom or anything... oh wait (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/captain-america-sequel-anthony-joe-russo-334218). =P

I'm fasinated by the idea of Marvel seeking television creative staff now more than cinematic talent. I wonder if that's a logical part of working in a shared universe.

Television staff are more likely to work as a team whereas a movie director kind of has a 'THIS IS MY VISION!!!!' approach maybe?

I'm looking forward to what results could come about from this.

This is a really, really interesting thought. And besides collaboration, TV staff also inherently think episodically, telling intriguing self-contained stories within a larger, overarching narrative. That lends itself quite well to, say, ongoing movie franchises, wouldn't you agree? Continuity! Boom.

That's probably why some comic book writers translate their talents to TV writing quite well.

[cherokeesam]

Yeah, and the TV shows he has directed have been critically acclaimed dramas. It's not like he's a director of some quirky sitcom or anything... oh wait (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/captain-america-sequel-anthony-joe-russo-334218). =P



This is a really, really interesting thought. And besides collaboration, TV staff also inherently think episodically, telling intriguing self-contained stories within a larger, overarching narrative. That lends itself quite well to, say, ongoing movie franchises, wouldn't you agree? Continuity! Boom.

That's probably why some comic book writers translate their talents to TV writing quite well.

Good points, of course. Which begs the question:

WHY THE HELL DON'T YOU START MOVING PROPERTIES TO TV INSTEAD OF FEATURES, MARVEL?!?!?!111!!?? :cmad::yay:

[spideymouse]

Good points, of course. Which begs the question:

WHY THE HELL DON'T YOU START MOVING PROPERTIES TO TV INSTEAD OF FEATURES, MARVEL?!?!?!111!!?? :cmad::yay:

I'll respond to this with the same response that I gave you in another thread (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=23500679#post23500679):
Because their Head of Television is a total f**king idiot. :doh:

In fact, it's the one reason I don't want Marvel to bring their properties to television at the moment--to keep Jeph Loeb's grubby hands off of them!

[JustSomeGuy]

Has anyone been able to find any interview with Alan Taylor regarding Thor 2? I can't find anything at all, and am just interested in hearing what he has to say? To be honest it doesn't even need to be about the next Thor movie, just in general, I would like to hear him speak.

[herolee10]

I wonder how the Saving Private Ryan-writer will change things? Are we to immediately assume that this will be a war-centric blockbuster?

Given on how we've heard comments like how the Bi-Frost being destroyed has resulted in things going bad for the rest of the nine realms due to Asgard no longer having a means to travel between realms and keep a order on things, along with how there have been scene/set descriptions of Thor arriving to save a village from destruction, I'm assuming that there might be some civil war going on between the realms caused by the Dark Elwes due to Odin and Thor not having been able to do anything from Asgard for the 2 years that the bridge was gone.