Black Panther Solo Film!

[DrCosmic]

Anyone ready for this? I've been hoping for one for a while! Here's the last news we have, about a writer/director being hired:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/114081-marvel-studios-hires-black-panther-writer

I'm hoping it'll be set in Wakanda, and kinda mirror the original Jungle Action miniseries with Klaw and M'Baka (kinda like the Ultimate Avengers 2, but minus all the other Avengers) maybe work in Everett Ross as a diplomat or something.

What do you guys think/want?

[CurzonDax]

I personally think it would be freakin epic but in order to work we need a great actor and not just any hack. I can't think of anybody that could pull off BP effectively. There are tons of african american actors that are very good in there craft but none I feel could pull off BP.

[DrCosmic]

Have you ever heard of Chiwetel Ejiofor? or Djimon Honsou?
Heck... Will Smith? Denzel Washington?

I don't think there's anything about T'Challa that you can't find on these guys' filmographies.

I don't really think there are any hack black actors. The industry is just too competitive.

[CurzonDax]

Have you ever heard of Chiwetel Ejiofor? or Djimon Honsou?
Heck... Will Smith? Denzel Washington?

I don't think there's anything about T'Challa that you can't find on these guys' filmographies.

I don't really think there are any hack black actors. The industry is just too competitive.

Chiwetel Ejiofor? No never heard of him. ( Or have I and just don't remember?) Djimon Honsou? I thought about him later after I typed that. I don't like Smith or Washington for the roles though as good as they are normally. Will Smith just seem too comedic to me and I just don't see Denzel in it.

[CurzonDax]

I hear Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje is going for the role and as far as Chiwetel Ejiofor, I looked him up and now recognize him. I agree both of them would be able. Not Will Smith

[DacoitONE]

Always fancied Michael Jae White in the role personally. He'd actually love to star and direct as it happens

Scott Tre: If a major studio were to give you two hundred million dollars to make a movie and gave you complete creative control, what kind of movie would you make? What would be the ultimate Michael Jai White star vehicle?

Michael Jai White: If I had two hundred million I’d make like ten movies (http://www.powerlinks.com/api/powerlink-click-custom?id=63&keyword=movies&advertiser_intext_ad_id=6&campaign_id=920) out of that (laughs). I would definitely make the Paul Robeson story. That would be my drama. I’d make Black Panther. I would do something with Black Panther that would make you forget about Batman. I guarantee you, if I got a chance to do Black Panther, everything would change. The genre would change.

[DrCosmic]

That's pretty big words, actually makes me excited. I don't like White's acting per se, but he definitely has presence and all the physicality anyone could ask for. I'd enjoy him as Black Panther too, especially if some stars rallied around him.

What kind of story would you guys want to see. Set in Wakanda or New York? A story like the Black Panther cartoon, or more like the storyline in the latest Avengers cartoon or the Ultimate Avengers 2 cartoon... or something else from the comics? Or does it matter?

[DrCosmic]

For reference:

Chiwetel Ejiofor (Serenity, Red Belt, Talk to Me, American Gangster, 2012, Salt, Rumored for the Part)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/chiwetel-black-panther.jpg

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (LOST, Bourne Identity, GI Joe, The Thing, Rumored for the part)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/adewale-akinnuoye-agbaje-black-panther.jpg

Djimon Hounsou (Amistad, Push, Blood Diamonds, voice Black Panther in cartoon, Gladiator)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/djimon_hounsou_10.jpg

Michael Jai White (Spawn, The Dark Knight, Why Did I Get Married, Black Dynamite)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/michael_jai_white_05.jpg

[chamber-music]

I've always hoped Chiwetel Ejiofor would play Black Panther.

Djimon Hounsou is too old but supporting roles would work fine. I think Hounsou would make a good T'Chaka.

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje would make a good Erik Killmonger or Man-Ape.

Denzel Washington and Will Smith are not right for the role of Black Panther. Denzel is almost 60 years old.

[The_Shadow]

Wesley Snipes

[DrCosmic]

This Wesley Snipes?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/155490951.jpg

I think he might be a mite old.

So I guess I'm the only one who cares/knows about BP storylines around here? Oh well... :(

[tamron]

I feel like Marvel should go a similar route as with casting Thor for Black Panther. Get a lesser known guy and then surround them with a great cast and director.

For me, there's no better pick out there for Black Panther than Tongayi Chirisa (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2475161/).

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4792/258207.jpg

His biggest US role to date was as Friday in NBC's Crusoe. Here is a clip reel from that role:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M69FEC7HCbA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M69FEC7HCbA)

He fits Black Panther in the same way Hemsworth did for Thor. He has the right look, is the right age for a franchise, is African, and most importantly, is a good actor.

[The_Shadow]

This Wesley Snipes?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/155490951.jpg

I think he might be a mite old.

So I guess I'm the only one who cares/knows about BP storylines around here? Oh well... :(

Just old enough that he could play T'Challa's father, then he dies and passes Black Panther on haha. I doubt Marvel would get someone like Snipes for the movie though.

If Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje isn't chosen for T'Challa, I would love for him to play T'Challa's father. I believe he could play that role perfectly, just add some white hair to him.

I like tamron's idea of finding a relatively unknown for T'Challa.

[Nightwing]

I've said it numerous times but eh, why not again. BP could easily be Marvel's next trilogy. His story, villains and connection to the MU would never make the franchise feel old. IMO, his place in the movie world is already on a silver platter with a big "Make me" sign. It's all about pulling the trigger.

Vibranium obviously opens up the door but then there's the legend of the Black Panther and T'challa's place in the Avengers. He's a classic member and I've always said a scene with Cap remembering his father/grandfather in some fashion would make a great sense of continuity.

Then there's Wakanda. The most technological place in the world. Imagine the introduction to the audience of a place where the future ALREADY exists and ways of improving life and science continue to evolve under the watch of it's king as it has for generations. Potential is limitless and I'll cry if we ever get to see it.

It's simple and can be mapped out or even switched around.

BP1: Klaw
BP2: Man-Ape
BP3: Killmonger

And I do agree that if they go the origin route then someone like Chirisa would be a decent pick. Especially when showcasing T'challa's studies around the world and his eventual rise to the throne. Plus his age makes him perfect for when he's grown into the role of king as the movies progress.

I'd also like to point out that BP has a massive popularity with fans that only continues to grow. His latest series was a good hit before it's unfortunate cancellation and his animated series on BET was well received among the masses. You had tons of people up at 2am talking about it on twitter as it trended worldwide. Hopefully someone took note.

Make it happen Marvel.

[DrCosmic]

^Here here, Lone Wolf.

For me I think
BP1: Klaw, Man-Ape, Mercs
BP2: Killmonger, Madame Slay, Mutates
BP3: Moses Magnum, Dr. Doom, Doombots


I feel like Marvel should go a similar route as with casting Thor for Black Panther. Get a lesser known guy and then surround them with a great cast and director.

For me, there's no better pick out there for Black Panther than Tongayi Chirisa (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2475161/).

His biggest US role to date was as Friday in NBC's Crusoe. Here is a clip reel from that role:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M69FEC7HCbA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M69FEC7HCbA)

He fits Black Panther in the same way Hemsworth did for Thor. He has the right look, is the right age for a franchise, is African, and most importantly, is a good actor.

Tongayi Chirisa, I like him. He'd be pretty cool. I'd like to see Aldis Hodge from Leverage take on the role for the same reason. Young, lesser known, so affordable and available, but still very talented. I also like his build and charisma more.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/8x3k2t.gif

[Nightwing]

Edit.

[Nightwing]

That's a nice breakdown Cosmic. A BP/Doom confrontation for the grand finale would be ideal, but not until Fox let's him and the FF go back to Marvel.

And Hodge is a definite choice to consider, good call. Age is on his side if they go the origin route and we're shown how T'Challa grows into the role of king like his father. I think he'd be great and already has a lot of support due to Leverage.

[Guhndoi]

I feel like Marvel should go a similar route as with casting Thor for Black Panther. Get a lesser known guy and then surround them with a great cast and director.

For me, there's no better pick out there for Black Panther than Tongayi Chirisa (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2475161/).

/snip/

His biggest US role to date was as Friday in NBC's Crusoe. Here is a clip reel from that role:

/snip/

He fits Black Panther in the same way Hemsworth did for Thor. He has the right look, is the right age for a franchise, is African, and most importantly, is a good actor.

I agree. It needs to be done like Thor. Someone around 30, giving time to grow in sequels. Chirisa and Hodge are great choices IMO.

[DrCosmic]

So we're pretty much agreed on that front? Good stuff.

Who do you guys think should/should not be in the supporting cast? Obviously they'd have T'Chaka (who would you want for him?)

Everett Ross and Monica Lynne from Priest's run for an American connection?
Shuri, Ramonda, and Hunter for a family angle?
Would you cast as Klaw? What about his mercs? Names or just stuntmen?

Usually when they have a young protagonist like that in a superhero film they surround him with really high quality actors.

Oh, and if they don't have Doom for a threequel, assuming Black Panther's been on the Avengers, you can bring in just about anybody from one of his lesser knowns but very powerful enemies, like Achebe, to an Avengers villain like Graviton, Super Adaptoid or, who knows, the Skrull Invasion, depending on where the Avengers franchise is headed.

[Nightwing]

Edit. -_-

[Nightwing]

For Klaw if we're going for a big name (which I don't think is needed but this is the fun of discussion) then I'd go with Christoph Waltz or Viggo Mortensen.

Keep in mind that even though they're great actors who can play good villains I'm also choosing them because of the years that would pass between T'Challa witnessing his father's death as a child and then encountering Klaw again as a man. And I'm also sure they'd have no problem making either look young for a flashback sequence.

[tamron]

Djimon Hounsou for T'Chaka, Jason Isaacs as Ulysses Klaw, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Erik Killmonger.

I wouldn't have Ross in the first BP movie, I'd save him for a sequel as connective tissue to the rest of the MCU. Alan Tudyk comes to mind for that role, but not married to that idea.

[Godzilla2000]

Man, I love how you out the exclamation point in the title for emphasis.

[DrCosmic]

Dang skippy! Lol...

Djimon Honsou - Yeah, if he's not BP (and he shouldn't be) he basically "has" to be T'Chaka. He brings credibility to the whole production, imho, as an actual experienced Panther (voicework) and a long time fancast to satisfy the fanboys. And people know who he is, so they'll be glad to see him on screen.

Jason Isaacs - Excellent! I was thinking about a bigger name villain character actor, and he's not afraid of comic book movies to boot! I like it! (Side Note: One day, I want to see all these typecast villains team up and be good guys, Hugo Weaving, Mark Strong, all those guys)

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje - Honestly, this guy can do anything. I don't think I'd want to see him as Killmonger, not sure why though. I guess I'll think about this. AAA needs a part in the franchise though.

Alan Tudyk - Oh my, that's pretty perfect. I think Ross works as the connection to the rest of the world, with the typical Nick Fury meeting as the connection to the MCU part of it. I personally thought someone younger for Ross, like a Shia Lebouf (minus the spasticness) or a Zac Efron (but a better actor).

A couple of my thoughts:

T'Chaka - Djimon Honsou
M'Baka - Terry Crews, use his comedic timing to make the villain a bit demented
Romonda (T'Challa's Step mom) - CCH Pounder
Shuri (T'Challa's Sister) - Keke Palmer, young enough to need direction
Nakia (Dora Milaje/Love Interest) - Kerry Washington, voiced Shuri in the cartoon, and has definitely got her African accent down... and she's gorgeous

And... for Klaw's mercs, though story may be too crowded for that, they're basically just stuntmen with acting experience, so tone them all down from comic book costumes and powers to skilled people in Klaw's employ:

Batroc the Leaper -> Georges Batroc (Bodyguard/Assassin): Cyril Raffeili (District 13)
Black Knight -> Father Augustine De Lac (Priest w/Concealed Blade): Ray Park
Rhino -> Aleksi Systevich (RHINO Loader operator): Vladimir Kozlov
Radioactive Man -> Igor Stanchek (Nuclear Physicist): ... drawing a blank. Anybody who can do a Russian accent...

Also, maybe not right for T'Challa, but someone overdue for a breakout role:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/Monet/actor-anthony-mackie.jpg
Anthony Mackie, 33, (Real Steel, Adjustment Bureau, Hurt Locker, Eagle Eye... 8 Mile)

[Nightwing]

Actually, throw my suggestions for Klaw out the window. Isaacs would be great, good choice tamron. And I do agree that Hounsou as T'Chaka would be a nice nod to fans who wanted him as BP for so long...Also on page with AAA.

Aside from Hodge I actually would not mind Mackie for T'Challa. He and Renner are good friends stemming from their Hurt Locker days, so maybe Renner can put in a good word for him if BP were ever to show up. :awesome:

[Boom]

I hope Black Panther looks like this:

http://comicattack.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/bpmwf.jpg

[tamron]

As far as the Black Panther suit, I think it should be adaptive so that they could use all the looks.

What I mean by that is, the base suit would be classic Kirby, jet black, no ornations:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8y59BaB8EE4/Sd8mQ4dFgxI/AAAAAAAAALE/Gc7iLIdd_ew/s320/BlackPantherJA20.gif

Then, he's climbing. Retractable fingertip and/or foot claws:
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/397/blackpanther.gif

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8526/tumblrle3cuxasvz1qbm90j.jpg

Those ornations on his forearms? Kimiyo Cards that can recess after use.

Maybe when he's in a fight, retractable knuckle claws:
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8526/tumblrle3cuxasvz1qbm90j.jpg

You get my drift.

Obviously, a balance would need to be struck because you don't want it to come off as goofy, nor do you want it to come off as the the suit is really the power and not Black Panther himself. But in this manner, we can get all of the looks with one suit and have it make sense, with the added bonus of showing to the audience just how advanced Wakandan tech is simultaneously.

I've never been a fan of the kneeguards like the one in Boom's post. They're so big and obtrusive looking in every image of BP I've seen with them.

Mackie would make a good candidate for Falcon (as would Laz Alonso), but I can't see Mackie for BP.

I'd prefer an African or at least someone with direct African ties to get the lead role as opposed to an African-American. I feel like there's a very important distinction there.

[Silvermoth]

I would love to see a Black Panther movie! I just hope Disney would let Marvel make it and make it well.

[DrCosmic]

As far as the Black Panther suit, I think it should be adaptive so that they could use all the looks.

The idea of the boots and gauntlets having those sort of multi-claw set ups sounds pretty danged awesome. I also think there's a lot of power in keeping the costume sleek and black, though I do like the grooves, and a little ornamentation... but I think too much ruins it. The necklace with the Panther totem is more than enough for his battle uniform. But it also does make sense for him to have a more regal ceremonial uniform with all the bells and whistles and kneepads and whatever.

But there's something really powerful about just the blackness of the black panther. Don't want that spoiled so much.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/bpplayproject2.jpg

I'd prefer an African or at least someone with direct African ties to get the lead role as opposed to an African-American. I feel like there's a very important distinction there.

There's an important distinction, but I don't think it applies to casting films. White Americans can play Europeans, regardless of if they have any actual ties to the country in question. Now there's a lot of questions to be had about African features and accents and such (another reason I like Hodge, because I've heard his African Accent enough to like it), but just on basis of heritage, I can't see that as relevant.

Mackie isn't quite right, I agree though. Too bad though, he's really good. I think he could redefine the character like RDJ did Stark.

[tamron]

I think he could redefine the character like RDJ did Stark.

I don't feel like Downey redefined Stark as much as he played up certain pre-established elements (charismatic playboy) over others. Still, he executed it with ease and aplomb.

I would describe what Snipes did with Blade as more of a redefinition. Blade had not been portrayed quite like that before the movies, and the mark they made on the character is indelible.

Any directors people have in mind for a BP film?

I think Antoine Fuqua (Training Day, Tears of the Sun, Shooter) would be fantastic with the right script behind him.

[DrCosmic]

I like Fuqua a lot. He does need... creative resources, but if he has them, I think he'll do a very nice job. When I look at King Arthur and Brooklyn's Finest, the less received films of his, I see weak scripts that he couldn't save. I also see very strong performances, and a director who consistently pulls those is definitely worth having around. I also want someone who's shot a movie about/set in Africa before, which, I suppose is a tall order.

Another I would consider would be Neil Blokamp (District 9), if he's not busy on his own IPs. Maybe even Edward Zwick (Blood Diamond, Love and Other Drugs). I think there should definitely be an emphasis on character-strong directors, like Favreau and Branagh, and not necessarily, big action guys, or previous superhero movie experience. And some part of me still wants Michael Jai White in on this. Maybe just as a writer, or something.

I see what you're saying, that Downey's change was subtle, and not an overhaul, but I do consider that a redefinition.

Random Question, assuming we have a scene with young T'Challa. Does it work better at the beginning of the film, or a flashback at some crucial character development point?

[Chewy]

Basically I think Denzel is the only guy they'll look at to play T'Chaka

And I hope they cast a very wide net when casting T'Challa, and are as open to casting an unknown actor as they were with Thor

[MarvelKnight]

I would go the route of aless established actor play T'Challa, like they did with Thor.

Djimon Honsou would be perfect for T'Chaka.

And after watching him on Spartacus, I think Peter Mensah would also be a great fit as well for T'Chaka

[Thundercrack85]

An actual African would be preferable. Granted I'm the same guy who would like to see a Dr. Doom and a Magneto with an accent. Isn't Black Panther from East Africa?

[Chewy]

An actual African would be preferable. Granted I'm the same guy who would like to see a Dr. Doom and a Magneto with an accent. Isn't Black Panther from East Africa?
Denzel can do accents. The thing is, they won't go with an unknown lead unless they get a big name supporting cast. Thor had Hopkins and Portman.

[T"Challa]

I can't believe i'm just n ow seeing this thread. I might pass out if a BP movie is actually given the green light. As for casting choices, here are my top 3

1. Chiwetel Ejiofor
http://worldofhurtonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Chiwetel-Ejiofor.jpg
- He's perfect IMO..has an african heritage, has a martial arts background and some serious acting acumen. See 2012 and Redbelt. He's awesome.

2. Aldis Hodge
http://cdn.worldoffemale.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Aldis-Hodge.jpg
- Another young and talented actor who just needs the right role.

3. Michael B. Jordan.
http://edgemagazinesite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/MichaelBJordan6.jpg
He has the look and is pretty talented. Watch him in Chronicle.


Supperting characters:

T"Chaka : Denzel would be a dream but he's too expensive. 2nd choice would be Djimon Hounsou

Ulysses Klaw: Bryan Cranston
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Bryan+Cranston+Premiere+AMC+Walking+Dead+Arrivals+ 8qwYCeXx65Yl.jpg

Director: Neil Blomkamp/Duncan Jones/Steve Mcqueen/ Antoine Fuqua

[tamron]

Maybe even Edward Zwick (Blood Diamond, Love and Other Drugs).

Could definitely work.

And some part of me still wants Michael Jai White in on this. Maybe just as a writer, or something.

Fight coordinator, if nothing else.

Random Question, assuming we have a scene with young T'Challa. Does it work better at the beginning of the film, or a flashback at some crucial character development point?

I think we need a minimum 4 sequences of a pre-Panther T'Challa. Whether chronologically or flashback, I want em.

1. Klaw's murder of T'Chaka ultimately ending with T'Challa blowing Klaw's hand off.

2. A heart-to-heart between a young T'Challa and T'Chaka about the duties of leadership and tradition. T'Chaka has been established as a character rooted in the old ways of Wakandan tradition. T'Challa is more modern.

Thus T'Challa's breaks from some traditions in the effort of modernizing Wakanda should be an apparent source of tension to some in the narrative (M'Baku being one) and a touchstone conversation highlighting T'Chaka's principals in contrast to T'Challa's later actions will make the conflict crystal clear.

In the end, be it the movie or a franchise, if we're so lucky, T'Challa should be progressing towards integrating the past with the future (Shadow Physics, as a symbolic example), and thus becoming the ideal leader of his people.

3.T'Challa's studying abroad. This can be a montage or something, but I want it clearly shown that before anything, T'Challa is a genius, one of the smartest men in the MCU.

4. The rites of Black Panther. I want to see all of it. No offhanded mentions. Show him taking on the 18 champions of the of Wakandan tribes, his walkabout (minus his encounter with Storm, due to obvious rights issues), dueling S'yan, the ingestion of the herb; the whole deal.

I think Peter Mensah would also be a great fit as well for T'Chaka

Mensah for S'yan, perhaps? I think that character could afford to be beefed up a little in a film, serve in a counselor role for T'Challa.

Additionally, in this role, Mensah can give a great fight scene when T'Challa duels him for the throne.

[DrCosmic]

^Wow. Peter Mensah as S'yan? That would be... well... utterly awesome. He really could play T'Chaka, especially if the part is notably brief, and leave S'Yan for the 'big name' type. But yeah, either as T'Chaka or S'Yan, I need Peter Mensah to fight the Black Panther. Dang. That's epic.

Another big name to consider for T'Chaka would be Will Smith. He has an older look now, and would fulfill the desired 'guy who can sell tickets' thing. I wish Morgan Freeman did action for real, that'd be pretty sweet.

1. Chiwetel Ejiofor
2. Aldis Hodge
3. Michael B. Jordan.


Nice picks. Would have never thought of Jordan. I think he skews a bit younger than I'd want. Perhaps he'd be best for a young Ejiofor, I dunno. Honestly, the only reason I wouldn't want Hodge is because I don't want it to mess up Leverage in any way.

Supperting characters:

T"Chaka : Denzel would be a dream but he's too expensive. 2nd choice would be Djimon Hounsou

Ulysses Klaw: Bryan Cranston

Director: Neil Blomkamp/Duncan Jones/Steve Mcqueen/ Antoine FuquaVery nice, Cranston can do anything, imho. Never thought of Duncan Jones. Who's Steve Mcqueen?

Fight coordinator, if nothing else.

Of course! That's it. And maybe cast him as M'Baka since that fight will be his coup de grace anyway.

I think we need a minimum 4 sequences of a pre-Panther T'Challa. Whether chronologically or flashback, I want em.

1. Klaw's murder of T'Chaka ultimately ending with T'Challa blowing Klaw's hand off.

2. A heart-to-heart between a young T'Challa and T'Chaka about the duties of leadership and tradition. T'Chaka has been established as a character rooted in the old ways of Wakandan tradition. T'Challa is more modern.

Thus T'Challa's breaks from some traditions in the effort of modernizing Wakanda should be an apparent source of tension to some in the narrative (M'Baku being one) and a touchstone conversation highlighting T'Chaka's principals in contrast to T'Challa's later actions will make the conflict crystal clear.

In the end, be it the movie or a franchise, if we're so lucky, T'Challa should be progressing towards integrating the past with the future (Shadow Physics, as a symbolic example), and thus becoming the ideal leader of his people.

3.T'Challa's studying abroad. This can be a montage or something, but I want it clearly shown that before anything, T'Challa is a genius, one of the smartest men in the MCU.

4. The rites of Black Panther. I want to see all of it. No offhanded mentions. Show him taking on the 18 champions of the of Wakandan tribes, his walkabout (minus his encounter with Storm, due to obvious rights issues), dueling S'yan, the ingestion of the herb; the whole deal.I do like the tradition vs modernism concept, especially with both the father and villain espousing tradition, and I think that's a theme we haven't seen in superhero films before, so very nice... Shadow Physics seems like quite a bit for a first film, after, we've got to have some clever vibranium usage too, y'know?

I'm not sure everything has to be shown, but there certainly does need to be a process. One concern I have is that there is little tension in the duel with S'Yan. Their closeness and his age don't drive home great challenge. So it has to come early in the story, but at the same time, we have to have some set up to care.

I think starting with the tail end of the walkabout, a young man with a lot of checks in his passport, fluent in several languages, casually hacking/programming things on his tablet, kindhearted to children, perhaps a passing reference to where he's from, coming back home through an airport after a long time. From there, through him, we are introduced to a 'new' Wakanda, things have changed, M'Baka on the throne, his mother, uncle and sister in hiding. We get flashbacks to his father's training and murder early on. He is coached by/defeats S'Yan to claim the Black Panther title to challenge M'Baka. Klaw shows up throws the fight against him. T'Challa has to flee to save his companions. During that second act he battles the Wakandan tribes (perhaps just 3 or 4), builds the Dora Milaje, Ingests the Herb, consults (herb-produced vision?) the Panther God and updates the costume. When he gets back to the capital for the third act, he basically whoops several levels of butt, including brilliantly utilizing his personnel resources.

Y'know, looking at it that way, there's not much need for Everett Ross or Monica Lynne or audience proxy. T'Challa is the newbie to the 'new' Wakanda. Though, some things would still need to be explained, I suspect.

[MarvelKnight]

I think Mads Mikkelsen, from Casino Royale would make a good Klaw

[DrCosmic]

He would... I think the challenge is finding a big enough 'name' to help sell the film. Mikkelsen could certainly do a bangup job, but I don't know if putting his name in the trailer would get anyone to come see the film. Same with Bryan Cranston, I guess.

Hmmm...

[MarvelKnight]

Which 'big name' would you tab for klaw?

[T"Challa]

Michael Clarke Duncan for Man Ape

[DrCosmic]

MCD would own, and I also like the idea of M'Baka being a contemporary of T'Chaka, lending to the traditionalism thing.

I honestly don't have a really good suggestion for Klaw. Jason Isaacs was the best I could come up with, but I liked the suggestions of people like Viggo Mortensen and Liam Nesson, though it's unlikely that those guys would go for villains, which I guess kinda raises the problem with the idea of big name villains. So... maybe it's not possible, but it's something on my mind, I guess.

[cherokeesam]

Which 'big name' would you tab for klaw?


How about Sharlto Copley, the South African who was so awesome in District 9 and played Murdock in the A-Team movie?

http://s3.media.squarespace.com/production/465215/5307116/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/SharltoCopleyA-Team.jpg

[DrCosmic]

How about Sharlto Copley, the South African who was so awesome in District 9 and played Murdock in the A-Team movie?

http://s3.media.squarespace.com/production/465215/5307116/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/SharltoCopleyA-Team.jpg

He certainly has the chops for Klaw. It'd be interesting to see what he would do with the character. Seems a bit young though, not sure how they'd make him look youn-er to kill T'Chaka.

Still not exactly a big name. He still better known as "that guy from...". For some reason the only 'big name' villains in superhero movies I can think of are Liam Nesson in Batman Begins, Kevin Spacey in Superman Returns and John Travolta in one of the Punisher movies. Clearly a 'big name' villain is a bit of a hit or miss thing, and perhaps not really necessary.

[Dark Raven]

One good thing about having Copely as Klaw is that, provided people don't mind a slight alteration to the character's background, he could actually get to use his South African accent. It would add to the African feel of the film. As for whether he'd be old enough to match wits with T'Chaka, well wouldn't most of T'Chaka's scenes be when he's still relatively young and T'Challa is still a boy? I prefer that T'Challa doesn't become Black Panther straight away but waits a few years to grow up before taking on the mantle and going after Klaw.

Hodge might not be bad as T'Challa. He certainly would pull off the intelligent side of T'Challa, and can do the accent. It's important that whoever plays T'Challa doesn't look overly young that it's more like Panther Boy. Hodge is in his 20s, but it's difficult to tell his age exactly.

For Man Ape, the person who comes to mind is Michael Clark Duncan. He would have the size to pull off that role.

As for Panther's costume, I'm hoping that it has a slight bluish tint to it - enough that in some light it can look like blackish-blue, and in other light just pure black. That would give him that classic look to his costume from the 70s where they would colour it blue because of printing difficulties.

[tamron]

He certainly has the chops for Klaw. It'd be interesting to see what he would do with the character. Seems a bit young though, not sure how they'd make him look youn-er to kill T'Chaka.

Still not exactly a big name. He still better known as "that guy from...". .

Yea, Copley is definitely in character actor territory to general audiences.

As far as age, once Klaw's made of pure sound, would he really age? Maybe we just go from his fight with T'Chaka and amputation, to him returning years later, looking the same, but with powers unbeknownst to T'Challa and the audience until the reveal, thus making "aging" him a non-issue.

[Guerrilla]

T'chaka : adelwale akinnuoye agbaje. T'chala: michael jai white

[Silvermoth]

I would say Jean Dujardin (The Artist) is pretty much guaranteed the role of Batroc if he wants it.

[MarvelKnight]

N'Gassi - Joe Morton or Morgan Freeman

[DrCosmic]

Yea, Copley is definitely in character actor territory to general audiences.

As far as age, once Klaw's made of pure sound, would he really age? Maybe we just go from his fight with T'Chaka and amputation, to him returning years later, looking the same, but with powers unbeknownst to T'Challa and the audience until the reveal, thus making "aging" him a non-issue.

I don't know that I would make him made of sound. Perhaps he would be turned into pure sound as the climactic ending to set up for his return, but for tellability's sake, he'd be a flesh and blood amputee for the story.

[T"Challa]

MCD would own, and I also like the idea of M'Baka being a contemporary of T'Chaka, lending to the traditionalism thing.

I honestly don't have a really good suggestion for Klaw. Jason Isaacs was the best I could come up with, but I liked the suggestions of people like Viggo Mortensen and Liam Nesson, though it's unlikely that those guys would go for villains, which I guess kinda raises the problem with the idea of big name villains. So... maybe it's not possible, but it's something on my mind, I guess.

I doubt they'd be against it if the script was good enough. Neeson has already played a villain in a CBM before its not like its new ground. Viggo strikes me as the kind of actor who would love to challenge himself with different roles. If they could write Klaw as a really sinister villain and imbibe him with depth, i could see it happening with Viggo.

[DrCosmic]

That's true. They got Jeff Bridges for Iron Man, I suppose they could do something very similar with Black Panther. Viggo would be really good, and it's true, he does have a lot of diverse roles.

Klaw does need an upgrade, motivation-wise, or pathos-wise or something. Maybe a really sharp and cold businessman, frustrated by T'challa and T'Chaka's refusal to 'get with the times' and 'play ball.' He thinks he can manipulate T'Challa at first, and finds that he really can't.

[Captain Marvel]

Ugh, no more businessmen, please, it's tired. Bad enough that Doom got turned into a corporate mogul. Do we really need to see the same from Klaw of all people?

[DrCosmic]

I mean, that's the best I could come up with. Whaddya got? What's a better villain angle for Klaw? Running on just 'revenge cuz you took my hand as I killed your father' is a bit... trite. Captain Hook-ish even.

[Chewy]

T'Challa: Aldis Hodge
http://i.imgur.com/PQkom.jpg

T'Chaka: Denzel Washington
http://i.imgur.com/zruc8.jpg

Klaw: Sean Bean
http://i.imgur.com/wbeFD.jpg

M'Baku: Michael Clarke Duncan
http://i.imgur.com/5M1oE.jpg

N'Gassi: Joe Morton
http://i.imgur.com/kNBDy.jpg

Shuri: Jessica Lucas
http://i.imgur.com/CIPEo.jpg

[DrCosmic]

That's pretty danged spot on Chewy! KUDOS!


It's hard not to want to add everyone in there. Peter Menah as S'yan, Kerry Washington as Nakia, Alan Tudyk as Everett Ross... man. Someone make this movie.

[ЯɘvlveR]

djimon hounsou was born to be Black Panther.

[Nightwing]

T'Challa: Aldis Hodge
http://i.imgur.com/PQkom.jpg

T'Chaka: Denzel Washington
http://i.imgur.com/zruc8.jpg

Klaw: Sean Bean
http://i.imgur.com/wbeFD.jpg

M'Baku: Michael Clarke Duncan
http://i.imgur.com/5M1oE.jpg

N'Gassi: Joe Morton
http://i.imgur.com/kNBDy.jpg

Shuri: Jessica Lucas
http://i.imgur.com/CIPEo.jpg
You officially win this thread. :up:

Seriously, Bean is a great choice for Klaw and his age would go well with the film's timeline. Plus his popularity has risen due to Game of Thrones.
That's pretty danged spot on Chewy! KUDOS!


It's hard not to want to add everyone in there. Peter Menah as S'yan, Kerry Washington as Nakia, Alan Tudyk as Everett Ross... man. Someone make this movie.
THIS x 100.

Make it happen Marvel.

[DrCosmic]

Indeed, I think they're trying to, they've certainly hired writers to do so. I think the challenge is finding the right story. And honestly, if you have a great story then a lot of people will be interested in making it, otherwise, you may not be able to get anyone.

Any thoughts on story? Origin (Spider-Man, Batman Begins)? Already established (Blade, Batman 89)? Love Interest? Something more Hudlin's run? Priest's? Stan Lee's? More along the lines of EMH or Ultimate Avengers 2?

I'd like to hear what you guys' thoughts were on that.

[tamron]

Priest's run, without a doubt.

Cherry pick the best of everything, where you can, but if I can choose only one, no doubt that's it.

[DrCosmic]

A bit off topic, where can I find Priest's run? I keep hearing good stuff, but haven't seen much of it myself. Is there a TPB or anything?

[MessiahDecoy123]

I was looking at the biggest blockbuster with a black actor as the main star and only Will Smith can bring in the big numbers worldwide.

A Black Panther movie with a 150 m budget would need at least 400 m worldwide to break even. Only Will Smith can achieve this.

and as much as I'd love to cast a younger, more regal actor, the studio is not going to greenlight a Black Panther movie unless they are certain they have a good chance at getting their money's worth.

and after thinking about it, if Will Smith keeps his mask on, he has the right physique and I wouldn't mind seeing him next to Robert Downey Jr in Avengers 2.

[Chewy]

Is it that only Will Smith can be successful, or that only Will Smith has been given a chance to be successful?

You looked at a list of the biggest blockbusters starring black actors. Ok. And how many big budget movies have even been made that starred black actors? Can you even name one that didn't star Smith?

[Dark Raven]

Is it that only Will Smith can be successful, or that only Will Smith has been given a chance to be successful?

You looked at a list of the biggest blockbusters starring black actors. Ok. And how many big budget movies have even been made that starred black actors? Can you even name one that didn't star Smith?

I would think it is that. If Will Smith has to play every black role, that's extremely limiting for any other black actor, especially younger ones who want to break out.

Actually, the Beverly Hills Cop movies were fairly successful at their time. That starred Will Smith didn't it? :oldrazz:

[DrCosmic]

Lol, Decoy makes a good point, though. For that reason, I think a film budget somewhere in the $80-100M range would be more appropriate. Similar to what the Blade series got. So when it pulls down 2-300M, it's considered a success. If it does pull in $400M+, it can shatter the Will Smith myth. If not, it'll still be successful.

Alternately, you can cast Denzel Washington as T'Chaka and Morgan Freeman as S'Yan, and include Nicky Fury in the storyline IM2 style. Having those three together would pretty much pwn the world, black or white or otherwise. Take the young lead surrounded by star power motif and apply it to black actors, basically. And as much as some people wouldn't mind Smith, he's not going to sign a six picture deal. I don't think he's ever even signed a 2 picture deal. So he's not an option, thus the only real choice becomes bringing the budget down and using it a lot smarter.

To me, that's pretty straightforward. All the SFX BP needs is a few establishing shots of Wakanda, and a couple vibranium vibration absorption effects, and sound blasts from Klaw. Beyond that, everything is practical. Go to actual Africa, fly in a small cast and a few dozen talented stuntmen, including fight choreographers like Michael Jai White (Spawn, Black Dynamite) and free runners like Sébastien Foucan (Casino Royale), use local labor for construction of the palace, Wakandan facilities and for extras. Practical sets for the second act (get great cinematogrpaher to capture Africa's natural beauty), soundstage (either there or here) for the palace and for the vibranium mound. Do some humanitarian event for free publicity and good will marketing. In the previews, put the big names up, show a fight scene and preview its connectedness to the rest of the MCU, show the white sidekick (Ev Ross) to prove it's not just for black people. Sold. It's a relatively cheap movie to make, if you're working backwards from $150M.

Keep in mind, this is the type of film that will do a lot better overseas than in the states, like Thor, as opposed to Captain America or Iron Man. So even if it doesn't make 100M over here (and it would, just on the marvel banner), it's going to bust 200M in all the other markets.

[Chewy]

http://latino-review.com/2012/06/05/exclusive-standalone-marvel-movie-cap-takes-place-wakanda/

Oh god yes

[jaqua99]

http://latino-review.com/2012/06/05/exclusive-standalone-marvel-movie-cap-takes-place-wakanda/

Oh god yes

Ugh no no :( So this will be one of the movies for 2014?? Damnit guys. I was hoping for antman and GotG. C looks like antman probably won't happen that year then....damnit haha this is the worst marvel news I've read in a long time. Don't want a black panther movie at all. Couldnt give 2 ****s about the character.....damnit this blows!

[Chewy]

Ugh no no :( So this will be one of the movies for 2014?? Damnit guys. I was hoping for antman and GotG. C looks like antman probably won't happen that year then....damnit haha this is the worst marvel news I've read in a long time. Don't want a black panther movie at all. Couldnt give 2 ****s about the character.....damnit this blows!
http://i.imgur.com/q8SMK.gif

Black Panther and Capt/Ms Marvel are really the only Avengers that can support a movie series outside the big three and Hulk. Ant-Man is a bomb waiting to happen, not a studio tentpole

[RealIrOnMaN]

Give the Panther his rightful Earth's Mightiest Heroes animated treatment and we've got a winner) I hope that the scriptwriters took some cues from Priest's awesome and incredible run (which influenced Yost and Fine during the creation of EMH btw).

[jaqua99]

http://i.imgur.com/q8SMK.gif

Black Panther and Capt/Ms Marvel are really the only Avengers that can support a movie series outside the big three and Hulk. Ant-Man is a bomb waiting to happen, not a studio tentpoleIt seems GotG is bound to happen. Agreed about antman...but if it happens... To me... That's an easy way to introduce ultron. That's the only reason I want antman. I hope that this isnt true

[Blackman]

http://latino-review.com/2012/06/05/exclusive-standalone-marvel-movie-cap-takes-place-wakanda/

Oh god yes

Black. F***ing. Panther.
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy104/gurrilla55/Gifs/2vj8pld.gif
Hell yes

[Chewy]

Black Panther is an incredibly cool character. Read the Priest run. I don't see how anyone can really dislike the character. Yeah he can be a Mary Sue on the Avengers cartoon but that's not who the character really is

Can't wait

[RealIrOnMaN]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4pvt0h2wa1r23q2bo1_500.jpg

[Dark Raven]

I hope BP has his full head mask and not some modified version of it (eg when he had a half cowl in the comics) or completely lacking a mask. People like Panther because of his mystique, not because they like seeing his real face.

[Blackman]

Seeing Marvel's track record I wouldnt be surprised in the mask gets ripped off in battle

[Dark Raven]

Seeing Marvel's track record I wouldnt be surprised in the mask gets ripped off in battle

Well it probably would, but I don't think that's to do with Marvel's track record. If you do look at their track record, it's only in Iron Man and the Avengers that anyone's mask gets ripped off (Cap's at the end). In Captain America:TFA, he keeps his mask on during the final fight and throughout the film, and in IM2 and the Avengers, Stark keeps his helmet on. It only gets ripped off at the very end by Thor, but the battle is already over.

However, if you look at Sony's track record with Spider-Man...

[RealIrOnMaN]

I hope they use Klaw as the main villain for the 1st movie. He has so much potential in him, almost like the Living Laser (pure VFX wonder, if you know what I mean). However, with M'Baku you can get a full-on war film between different tribes with a comic-book feeling, which would still be considered as something new, bold and fantastic.

[Dark Raven]

I hope they use Klaw as the main villain for the 1st movie. He has so much potential in him, almost like the Living Laser (pure VFX wonder, if you know what I mean). However, with M'Baku you can get a full-on war film between different tribes with a comic-book feeling, which would still be considered as something new, bold and fantastic.

Why not use both Klaw and M'Baku? They are different threats with different motivations. They don't even need to join forces like most villains do in comic book movies. Villains don't always do that in other types of films, so why is it a necessity in these? I'd like to see villains actually opposing each other. Perhaps Klaw is a common enemy to both T'Challa and M'Baku.

[Chewy]

I have to think the plot would revolve around Klaw and the vibranium

[RealIrOnMaN]

I have to think the plot would revolve around Klaw and the vibraniumI'm all for it, man!

[Blackman]

I think Klaw and M'Baku would make good first villains

[RealIrOnMaN]

I think Klaw and M'Baku would make good first villainsIf used wisely, then yes. Just give them enough screen time, development and make their motivations (negative usage of vibranium, tribe conquest and etc) as something worthy to battle.

[Dark Raven]

I hope Klaw and M'Baku fight each other too. We haven't really seen many villains fight each other in comic book movies.

[cherokeesam]

http://i.imgur.com/q8SMK.gif

Black Panther and Capt/Ms Marvel are really the only Avengers that can support a movie series outside the big three and Hulk. Ant-Man is a bomb waiting to happen, not a studio tentpole

lolopinions

But Black Panther is a great add, and it's a great time to get him in. I'm sure Ant-Man *will* be the *third* 2014 movie, and Avengers 2 will potentially add Black Panther, Wasp, Ant-Man and/or Giant-Man to the lineup. In addition to the existing 6 members, who DON'T need to be rotated out. Then squeeze in Carol Danvers and the Maximoffs by Avengers 3, and you'll have the Perfect Goddamn Avenger Roster:

Cap
Thor
Iron Man
Hulk
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Black Panther
Giant-Man
Wasp
Ms. Marvel
Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
*edit: forgot about potentially Vision, too. By Avengers 3.

[Chewy]

Black Panther is trending on twitter :awesome:

That is all

[Boom]

Anyone got the scoop on the supposed screenwriter (Mark Bailey)?

[Chewy]

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/marvels-next-standalone-film-will-reportedly-be-a-black-panther-movie-20120605

Of course, none of this is official and could be wrong, but many of the pieces fit into place. We had heard separately recently that Black Panther was going to be set up/cameo in the sequel to "Captain America: The First Avenger" and with this bit of news, that seems to make a lot of sense.

[warcam]

Anyone got the scoop on the supposed screenwriter (Mark Bailey)?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1766774/

[Blackman]

Black Panther is trending on twitter :awesome:

That is all

we should try and get Aldis Hodge for Black Panther trending

[Boom]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1766774/
Haven't seen any of those shows. Is he good?

[warcam]

Haven't seen any of those shows. Is he good?

No idea. I'd never heard of him before, either, until about an hour ago...lol. At this point, I totally trust Marvel's judgment.

[Chewy]

Haven't seen any of those shows. Is he good?
No idea but I remember back when he was hired one of the selling points for Marvel was that he apparently spent a couple years in Africa doing research for one of his documentaries

[Quasimod0]

This is great news. I love BP. And the design of wakanda and the jungles and stuff will be totally different from the other mcu films. Should be gorgeous. And yeah, he needs a full mask

[ThatDamnNinja]

This is awesome news. Given Marvel's approach to picking directors for the other movies, I feel like they will definitely want a black director, and given that he was approached to do a Black Panther movie back in 2007, John Singleton is still incredibly likely, I think. And Singleton's choice is Chiwetel Ejiofor, who's only 34, making him exactly the right age for the role (contrast with Djimon Honsou, who is pushing 50, even if he don't look it). Plus, Ejiofor was in Serenity, and Joss Whedon will likely have a hand in producing all the Marvel movies from here on out, so I think Ejiofor should be considered the heavy favorite.

[Joeyjojo72]

I still think BP is gonna make a cameo in Cap2. Something involving the vibranium. Im basing this on absolutely nothing, but it sounds good so im going with it.

[warcam]

I like Chiwetel Ejiofor, too. The consensus seems to be that Denzel Washington is the fan favorite to play T'Chaka. While I would love to see him cast, as I think he would be to BP's world what Anthony Hopkins is to Thor's world, he brings with him a $20 million price tag. If DW, for whatever reason, isn't cast as T'Chaka, who does everyone think would be a worthy substitute? Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Dennis Haysbert cast. Sure, he doesn't have the star power of Denzel, but he certainly has the screen presence. Who else? Michael Dorn? Delroy Lindo? Andre Braugher?

[ThatDamnNinja]

I like Chiwetel Ejiofor, too. The consensus seems to be that Denzel Washington is the fan favorite to play T'Chaka. While I would love to see him cast, as I think he would be to BP's world what Anthony Hopkins is to Thor's world, he brings with him a $20 million price tag. If DW, for whatever reason, isn't cast as T'Chaka, who does everyone think would be a worthy substitute? Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Dennis Haysbert cast. Sure, he doesn't have the star power of Denzel, but he certainly has the screen presence. Who else? Michael Dorn? Delroy Lindo? Andre Braugher?

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, and I think they try to swing for the big name actor on Ulysses Klaw.

[CB Fan]

I like Chiwetel Ejiofor this could be that breakout role for him.

I also like Laz Alonso
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz216/videkc/laz-alonso.jpg

Played Tsu'tey in Avatar

[dark_knight08]

T'Challa: Aldis Hodge
http://i.imgur.com/PQkom.jpg

T'Chaka: Denzel Washington
http://i.imgur.com/zruc8.jpg

Klaw: Sean Bean
http://i.imgur.com/wbeFD.jpg

M'Baku: Michael Clarke Duncan
http://i.imgur.com/5M1oE.jpg

N'Gassi: Joe Morton
http://i.imgur.com/kNBDy.jpg

Shuri: Jessica Lucas
http://i.imgur.com/CIPEo.jpg

I agree this should be the cast of the Black Panther movie.

[T"Challa]

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, and I think they try to swing for the big name actor on Ulysses Klaw.

Viggo mortensen for klaw

[warcam]

I only saw Avatar once, so I can't say I remember Alonso's performance. If he's good, I'd have no problem with it. Maybe if not BP, then Falcon in CA2.

[T"Challa]

I only saw Avatar once, so I can't say I remember Alonso's performance. If he's good, I'd have no problem with it. Maybe if not BP, then Falcon in CA2.

He's stars in the tv show breakout kings..he's a solid actor and he definitely has the look. However his acting skills are just solid. Ejiofor is the man for this

[cherokeesam]

Viggo mortensen for klaw

Sharlto Copley from District 9 for Klaw.

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii593/cherokeesam777/copley.jpg

[Dark Raven]

^ Pic isn't showing up, but I could get behind that idea for Copley as Klaw.

I think M'Baku should be the intial "super" threat with Ulysses Klaw for the first part of the movie as a normal human being. Then later on Klaw gains his sonic powers and turns into a much bigger threat and becomes the main villain.

[ThatDamnNinja]

I think M'Baku should be the intial "super" threat with Ulysses Klaw for the first part of the movie as a normal human being. Then later on Klaw gains his sonic powers and turns into a much bigger threat and becomes the main villain.

Absolutely. This.

I think Klaw is a potentially great role a number of actors could sink their teeth into. Viggo Mortensen would be great. Sharlto Copley would be great. I've seen Vincent Cassel's name thrown around quite a bit, and he'd be great. Some other good suggestions I've seen are Bryan Cranston, Ed Harris, and William Fitchner. Waltz could do it, but it would probably feel like retreading old territory for him.

It should be someone, I think, who can convey sort of an old school colonial imperialist vibe. I'd be interested in seeing what Colin Firth could do, playing against type.

[cherokeesam]

Absolutely. This.

I think Klaw is a potentially great role a number of actors could sink their teeth into. Viggo Mortensen would be great. Sharlto Copley would be great. I've seen Vincent Cassel's name thrown around quite a bit, and he'd be great. Some other good suggestions I've seen are Bryan Cranston, Ed Harris, and William Fitchner. Waltz could do it, but it would probably feel like retreading old territory for him.

It should be someone, I think, who can convey sort of an old school colonial imperialist vibe. I'd be interested in seeing what Colin Firth could do, playing against type.

Vincent Cassel and Sharlto Copley are the only ones in that list under 50. They're all great actors who'd make great villains, but I don't think Ulysses Klaw needs to be a member of AARP....I'd shoot for a late 30s-early 40s vibe. (Pun. Heh.)

[ThatDamnNinja]

Vincent Cassel and Sharlto Copley are the only ones in that list under 50. They're all great actors who'd make great villains, but I don't think Ulysses Klaw needs to be a member of AARP....I'd shoot for a late 30s-early 40s vibe. (Pun. Heh.)

Given that he killed T'Chaka when T'Challa was just a kid, I think it makes sense for the Klaw actor to be a good 20ish years older than whoever plays BP.

[Silver Surfer]

Will Smith for Black Panther, yeah I said it.

[T"Challa]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ktpxbQsto34/TT3WHi98cNI/AAAAAAAABr4/Fgv889oUyj8/s640/Chiwetel-Ejiofor.jpg

Chiwetel Ejiofor as T'Challa

http://www.thecinemasource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/denzel_washington-safe_house-1.jpg

Denzel Washington as T'Chaka

http://www.thesavvyfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Viggo_Savvy-e1330618055861.jpg

Viggo mortensen as Klaw

http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/michael-clarke-duncan-592x410.jpg

Michael Clarke Duncan as Mbaku

http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/B/Angela-Bassett-9542651-1-402.jpg

Angela Bassett as Ramonda

http://img.poptower.com/pic-41561/yaya-dacosta.jpg?d=600

Yaya dacosta as Shuri

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjQ2NTM4MzI4M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTkxMjcxNA@@._ V1._SY314_CR9,0,214,314_.jpg

Djimon Hounsou as s'Yan

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BOTUwMTkzNDQxMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzU0MDYxMw@@._ V1._SY314_CR11,0,214,314_.jpg

Beyonce as monica lynne (she'll basically be playing herself)

[cherokeesam]

Hate to rain on the parade this early, but SHH, anyway, have updated the front page:


UPDATE: According to sources at the studio Latino Review's report is not true.

[Chewy]

lol, SHH's sources

I'll take elmayimbe's word over their's 10 times out of 10

But we'll see

[ken smith]

This news made my day. I can't wait to see Black Panther on the big screen.

[jaqua99]

I friggin hope ssh sorce is true. The hell with black panther lol I don't want this movie. I still hope it GotG and antman.

[BigThor]

WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :highfive:

When I first read the news about Black Panther being the 2014 film I screamed "YESSSSSSS" to the top of my lungs!

[Chewy]

I friggin hope ssh sorce is true. The hell with black panther lol I don't want this movie. I still hope it GotG and antman.
SHH's sources deny things and then a month later they're officially announced. It's a cycle :oldrazz:

[jaqua99]

WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

When I first read the news about Black Panther being the 2014 film I screamed "YESSSSSSS" to the top of my lungs!

Why? That. Means we won't get ultron for avengers 2 :( and there are 3 2014 movies... The other will probably be GotG...which I love... But I was hoping for antman to introduce ultron...but with this stupid black panther thing... It probably won't happen... I had the opposite reaction... I read that post... And said "****" and threw my ipod

[T"Challa]

I friggin hope ssh sorce is true. The hell with black panther lol I don't want this movie. I still hope it GotG and antman.

Panther craps on antman. He's got the badass factor pym could only dream of :woot:

[Chewy]

You're probably not going to get Ultron for Avengers 2. That seemed sort of obvious after they teased Thanos. Don't really see the big deal, anyway. Panther >>>>>> Ultron.

[jaqua99]

Panther craps on antman. He's got the badass factor pym could only dream of :woot:

I prefer neither. Antman will suck.... I only want antman for the sole purpose of leading ultron into avengers two. Thats it. I want ultron

[jaqua99]

You're probably not going to get Ultron for Avengers 2. That seemed sort of obvious after they teased Thanos. Don't really see the big deal, anyway. Panther >>>>>> Ultron.
Thanos appearance means nothing... Other than the fact that he is in the mcu. And for panther>>>>ultron....thats one acenger added to the team vs the character the sequelczould center around. panther is one of the like...two or three heroes I just don't care about... And to me... Ultron is the coolest avengers villian.. I love what he is a about. So.. Ultron>>>>>Black Panther.

[T"Challa]

I prefer neither. Antman will suck.... I only want antman for the sole purpose of leading ultron into avengers two. Thats it. I want ultron

Well..i doubt marvel has that train of thought..ultron is cool and all but it's not like the avengers lack cool villains. Kang is always lying around and there's still thanos to deal with. Panther brings a new angle in terms of royalty, wakanda and goddamit he's African. Do we need a 3rd genius white scientist?..lol

[jaqua99]

Well..i doubt marvel has that train of thought..ultron is cool and all but it's not like the avengers lack cool villains. Kangaroo is always lying around and there's still thanos to deal with. Panther brings a new angle in terms of royalty, wakanda and goddamit he's African. Donwe need a 3rd genius white It's scientist?..lolIt's just that like.... When I think of avengers... Ultron is the villian that comes to mind every time. He's great. I know im not the only person who feels this way. I sort of expected it to happen at some point. When the avengers was first announced...I've always said...ultron will appear in a movie. It just seems so natural for the avengers. So yes..I am... And stink have been expecting ultron at some point

[cherokeesam]

SHH's sources deny things and then a month later they're officially announced. It's a cycle :oldrazz:

Yeah. Sorry, SHH, but that is *really* a half-assed denial on the SHH and CS Main Page. "Sources at the studio say Latino Review's report is untrue." Could you go into *at least* a little more detail....? :doh:

[ThatDamnNinja]

Regardless of how anyone feels about Ant-Man as a character, Ant-Man as a movie, as directed by Edgar Wright, will be killer. So lets hope it happens.

Black Panther needs to happen, too. Black Panther is a great character, with a great setting, completely different from anything we've seen in MCU so far. Plus, the current Avengers lineup is just filled to the brim with white dudes. So let's mix it up.

On that same note, I really hope we get a Ms. Marvel (or Captain Marvel, as she's called now) movie. The lineup really needs some more women in it, I think, and ScarJo's Black Widow as the Token Girl really doesn't do it for me.

If any rumored project needs to be dropped, it's Guardians of the Galaxy, which I think will end up being a colossal bomb for Marvel.

[Chewy]

I think I will love Ant-Man if it happens. I think it's going to bomb no matter what, though. Wright's quirky style is practically the opposite of mainstream

[BigThor]

You're probably not going to get Ultron for Avengers 2. That seemed sort of obvious after they teased Thanos. Don't really see the big deal, anyway. Panther >>>>>> Ultron.

Idk about all that, Black Panther is my second favorite Avenger but Ultron is arguably the best Avengers villain.

On that same note, I really hope we get a Ms. Marvel (or Captain Marvel, as she's called now) movie.

I refuse to refer to Ms. Marvel as "Captain Marvel", it just lame and doesn't have the uniqueness of Ms. Marvel.

[jaqua99]

Idk about all that, Black Panther is my second favorite Avenger but Ultron is arguably the best Avengers villain.

Yup

[Chewy]

Idk about all that, Black Panther is my second favorite Avenger but Ultron is arguably the best Avengers villain.
I like Ultron, I don't want to give off the impression I don't. But at the end of the day he's a robot who tries to take over the world's missile systems. Not exactly unique in the realm of film.

It's the same problem the Punisher has. He's cool and unique in the comics. On film his character's a dime a dozen.

[T"Challa]

No villain is worth being the primary reason for the production ofna movie. If an antman movie is made, itnshould be done with pym being the focus not because they want an excuse to get ultron on screen. Thats a recipe for failure

[cherokeesam]

I like Ultron, I don't want to give off the impression I don't. But at the end of the day he's a robot who tries to take over the world's missile systems. Not exactly unique in the realm of film.

It's the same problem the Punisher has. He's cool and unique in the comics. On film his character's a dime a dozen.

I agree about the Punisher, but not Ultron.
See, to me, what makes Ultron unique in the realm of killer robots is his backstory. It's a twisted Oedipus complex, with him wanting to kill his "daddy" Hank and quite literally screw his "mommy" Janet. That's why I'm always dumbfounded when people describe ways they want to get Ultron into the MCU that don't involve the Pyms.

That's why I keep saying: without the Pyms, there *is* no Ultron. That ****ed-up twisted love triangle IS the story of Ultron.

[BigThor]

I agree about the Punisher, but not Ultron.
See, to me, what makes Ultron unique in the realm of killer robots is his backstory. It's a twisted Oedipus complex, with him wanting to kill his "daddy" Hank and quite literally screw his "mommy" Janet. That's why I'm always dumbfounded when people describe ways they want to get Ultron into the MCU that don't involve the Pyms.

That's why I keep saying: without the Pyms, there *is* no Ultron. That ****ed-up twisted love triangle IS the story of Ultron.

Bingo :word:

Chewy did bring up some valid points, but ultimately there's enough meat there to make Ultron stand out.

No villain is worth being the primary reason for the production ofna movie. If an antman movie is made, itnshould be done with pym being the focus not because they want an excuse to get ultron on screen. Thats a recipe for failure

Very true :up:

[flickchick85]

Regardless of how anyone feels about Ant-Man as a character, Ant-Man as a movie, as directed by Edgar Wright, will be killer. So lets hope it happens.

Black Panther needs to happen, too. Black Panther is a great character, with a great setting, completely different from anything we've seen in MCU so far. Plus, the current Avengers lineup is just filled to the brim with white dudes. So let's mix it up.

On that same note, I really hope we get a Ms. Marvel (or Captain Marvel, as she's called now) movie. The lineup really needs some more women in it, I think, and ScarJo's Black Widow as the Token Girl really doesn't do it for me.

If any rumored project needs to be dropped, it's Guardians of the Galaxy, which I think will end up being a colossal bomb for Marvel.
Are you me? Because those are pretty much my exact feelings on all of those movies, lol.

One sticking point, though - while I agree Ant-Man will be great with Wright making it, I also agree with Chewy that it will surely bomb. That's the only reason I'm not completely supportive of it getting made - I'd hate to see its failure getting hung around Edgar Wright's neck. The character's a ridiculously tough sell even before you add Wright's off-beat humor to the mix.

[M-2]

This is a little off point, but anyways.... So we getting Black Panther, probably Ant-Man and Wasp as well.... We all pretty much hoping for Ms Marvel, and im sure Marvel is interested in getting her film made, as they really look to push her to be one of the iconic Avengers.

But Who will be left out in Avengers 2 then? because we talking about potentially adding 4 Avengers and getting 6 Avengers enough screen time was already a tough job in itself, I doubt they will have 10... Maybe 7 will still be fine, but having big character additions like Ant-man, Wasp, Ms Marvel and Black Panther... Which characters don't return for Avengers 2?

Or does Avengers 2 just cut out SHIELD, since the Avengers now established there team on there own separate from SHIELD.

[M-2]

Djimon Hounsou for T'Chaka, Jason Isaacs as Ulysses Klaw, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Erik Killmonger.

I wouldn't have Ross in the first BP movie, I'd save him for a sequel as connective tissue to the rest of the MCU. Alan Tudyk comes to mind for that role, but not married to that idea.

Good casting!! I reall want Djimon for the role, he might be older than Marvel might be looking for... But he was made for this role, just like Downey Jr. Was made for Tony, and Christopher Reeves was made for Superman...

You don't cast someone else just because they younger... Pick the right person for the role... Djimon is perfect, he will really be awesome in the role and it will be cool to see him and Downeys Banter

[TacomaTruck90]

great news...is this confirmed threw marvel or just on this website though..i havent seen anything on IGN or anything ? hope its true

[BigThor]

This is a little off point, but anyways.... So we getting Black Panther, probably Ant-Man and Wasp as well.... We all pretty much hoping for Ms Marvel, and im sure Marvel is interested in getting her film made, as they really look to push her to be one of the iconic Avengers.

But Who will be left out in Avengers 2 then? because we talking about potentially adding 4 Avengers and getting 6 Avengers enough screen time was already a tough job in itself, I doubt they will have 10... Maybe 7 will still be fine, but having big character additions like Ant-man, Wasp, Ms Marvel and Black Panther... Which characters don't return for Avengers 2?

Or does Avengers 2 just cut out SHIELD, since the Avengers now established there team on there own separate from SHIELD.

Judging from the way things are going, Ms. Marvel is probably not going to be in Avengers 2.

Giant Man and Wasp might not be in it either for that matter.

[Silvermoth]

I would definetly watch a Black Panther movie. I think it would be stunning.

[cherokeesam]

This is a little off point, but anyways.... So we getting Black Panther, probably Ant-Man and Wasp as well.... We all pretty much hoping for Ms Marvel, and im sure Marvel is interested in getting her film made, as they really look to push her to be one of the iconic Avengers.

But Who will be left out in Avengers 2 then? because we talking about potentially adding 4 Avengers and getting 6 Avengers enough screen time was already a tough job in itself, I doubt they will have 10... Maybe 7 will still be fine, but having big character additions like Ant-man, Wasp, Ms Marvel and Black Panther... Which characters don't return for Avengers 2?

Or does Avengers 2 just cut out SHIELD, since the Avengers now established there team on there own separate from SHIELD.

Ms. Marvel is just fanboy wishlist speculation at this point. There's nothing concrete from any sources on her getting a film. Maybe someday.

But if the BP rumor turns out, and if Wright gets Ant-Man in under the wire, yeah, there's potentially T'Challa, Hank and Janet (and maybe Scott Lang) turning in their resumes to Avengers 2. I think people are needlessly hand-wringing over this, though --- I can name plenty of action movies that successfully created teams far larger than just 9 or 10 heroes. And you've got to figure that Marvel have absolutely no reason to go back and rehash the backstories on the 6 current Avengers. "This is who Iron Man is; this is how Hulk got his powers; etc." That's already been done in 2012; no need to go back through it in 2015. The only backstories that would need development for Avengers 2 would be the new recruits, not the veterans.

[tamron]

Good casting!! I reall want Djimon for the role, he might be older than Marvel might be looking for... But he was made for this role, just like Downey Jr. Was made for Tony, and Christopher Reeves was made for Superman...

You don't cast someone else just because they younger... Pick the right person for the role... Djimon is perfect, he will really be awesome in the role and it will be cool to see him and Downeys Banter

I'd have no problem with Djimon as T'Challa if Marvel goes older. Like NONE. Because I've thought he'd be perfect for BP since Gladiator.

But I'm saying Djimon as T'Chaka, Black Panther's dad. I figure that way we can get an awesome fight scene with him versus Klaw before the inevitable.

[Dark Raven]

I'd have no problem with Djimon as T'Challa if Marvel goes older. Like NONE. Because I've thought he'd be perfect for BP since Gladiator.

But I'm saying Djimon as T'Chaka, Black Panther's dad. I figure that way we can get an awesome fight scene with him versus Klaw before the inevitable.

Wouldn't it be better to be T'Chaka vs M'Baku? If it's against Klaw, that would almost mean that Klaw has already gained his superpowers already. He should only gain it at the end of a battle between T'Chaka and Klaw (with M'Baku being the main fighter).

Maybe at the time Klaw is just a normal human being who is exploiting Wakanda, and has allied himself with M'Baku, but isn't a really serious threat then. Only later on does he become a threat when he gains his powers, and perhaps turns against M'Baku as well (especially if M'Baku abandoned Klaw to his fate).

[tamron]

Wouldn't it be better to be T'Chaka vs M'Baku? If it's against Klaw, that would almost mean that Klaw has already gained his superpowers already. He should only gain it at the end of a battle between T'Chaka and Klaw (with M'Baku being the main fighter).

Maybe at the time Klaw is just a normal human being who is exploiting Wakanda, and has allied himself with M'Baku, but isn't a really serious threat then. Only later on does he become a threat when he gains his powers, and perhaps turns against M'Baku as well (especially if M'Baku abandoned Klaw to his fate).

I was just going with the comic history in saying Klaw is his killer. Klaw was a human with a "sound blaster" weaponry trying to get vibranium out of Wakanda. Gunned down T'Chaka. T'Challa eventually gets his hands on a sound blaster, blew off Klaw's hand. Fantastic Four #53.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2390/2023088698_016f48e639_o.jpg

I'm open to a tweak or change there.

[Dark Raven]

^ Yep, I know. But you said you wanted an awesome fight scene between T'Chaka and Klaw, and there wouldn't be much of one if it's just T'Chaka vs a human Klaw. There wouldn't be much of a contest, and Klaw just gunning T'Chaka down is more of an assassination. Hence, why I suggested a fight between T'Chaka and M'Baku, with Klaw somehow involved but not in a physical way.

[tamron]

^True.

Maybe awesome in that we get an extended sequence of Hounsou's T'Chaka beating up lackies or something before Klaw uses the sound blaster to get the upper hand.

An M'Baku/Klaw alliance is convenient in a way, but in a perfect world, I'd rather see M'Baku developed as a legit threat rather than cheap muscle. The hierarchy of the sacred totems in Wakandan society (Black Panther/Bast, White Gorilla) would be a cool thing to touch on, imho.

[Dark Raven]

I wasn't really thinking of M'Baku as cheap muscle. M'Baku would be the leader of his own tribe and would "tolerate" Klaw, but would turn on him in a second. Klaw also would just use M'Baku to his own advantage, but has his own agenda. I would say M'Baku has the upper hand to begin with, being the stronger of the two. Later, when Klaw gains super powers, it changes the balance of power. However, M'Baku still wishes to get rid of Klaw and simply allows T'Challa to do the work for him, hoping that once T'Challa's resources are exhausted, M'Baku will move in for the kill.

[MarvelKnight]

Idk about all that, Black Panther is my second favorite Avenger but Ultron is arguably the best Avengers villain.



I refuse to refer to Ms. Marvel as "Captain Marvel", it just lame and doesn't have the uniqueness of Ms. Marvel.

I wholeheartedly concur, lol

[MarvelKnight]

If we are taking this as completely set in stone, then, now, I just hope they get the right director.

[jaqua99]

I agree about the Punisher, but not Ultron.
See, to me, what makes Ultron unique in the realm of killer robots is his backstory. It's a twisted Oedipus complex, with him wanting to kill his "daddy" Hank and quite literally screw his "mommy" Janet. That's why I'm always dumbfounded when people describe ways they want to get Ultron into the MCU that don't involve the Pyms.

That's why I keep saying: without the Pyms, there *is* no Ultron. That ****ed-up twisted love triangle IS the story of Ultron.

Exactly, and the fact of the irony of him starting to evolve as a human mind, as I see it, with emotions and such, since he hates humanity, Ultron is MUCH more than a robot trying to take over the world via computers, aka IROBOT

[Rock Sexton]

Good casting!! I reall want Djimon for the role, he might be older than Marvel might be looking for... But he was made for this role, just like Downey Jr. Was made for Tony, and Christopher Reeves was made for Superman...

You don't cast someone else just because they younger... Pick the right person for the role... Djimon is perfect, he will really be awesome in the role and it will be cool to see him and Downeys Banter

I feel the same way about Djimon ..... he's a very engaging actor. If not him then Eamonn Walker.

[jaqua99]

No. Apparently its been debunked, insiders at marvel have said this black panther rumor isn't true. thank god

[Rock Sexton]

Ms. Marvel is just fanboy wishlist speculation at this point. There's nothing concrete from any sources on her getting a film. Maybe someday.

But if the BP rumor turns out, and if Wright gets Ant-Man in under the wire, yeah, there's potentially T'Challa, Hank and Janet (and maybe Scott Lang) turning in their resumes to Avengers 2. I think people are needlessly hand-wringing over this, though --- I can name plenty of action movies that successfully created teams far larger than just 9 or 10 heroes. And you've got to figure that Marvel have absolutely no reason to go back and rehash the backstories on the 6 current Avengers. "This is who Iron Man is; this is how Hulk got his powers; etc." That's already been done in 2012; no need to go back through it in 2015. The only backstories that would need development for Avengers 2 would be the new recruits, not the veterans.

9-10 heroes is overkill unless Avengers 2 & 3 are properly sprawled out like Star Wars. I can only imagine the b*tching from writhing fan boys after the addition of new heroes costs their favorites more screen time. It will be endless.

[cherokeesam]

9-10 heroes is overkill unless Avengers 2 & 3 are properly sprawled out like Star Wars. I can only imagine the b*tching from writhing fan boys after the addition of new heroes costs their favorites more screen time. It will be endless.

Why would it cost their favorites more screen time?
Look, new recruits have to be mentored. By whom? The veterans. So Cap, Thor, and IM get their face time in, and a lot of it involves showing the new guys the ropes.

[BigThor]

Veterans?

They've only been a team for about half of one movie.

[Quasimod0]

Adding more heroes WOULD mean that the original avengers wouldnt get as much screen time as the last movie. Which isnt a problem for me

[cherokeesam]

Veterans?

They've only been a team for about half of one movie.

...the hell does that matter....? :huh:

By the time Avengers 2 drops presumably in 2015 (the guesstimate I'm going with):

*Captain America will have been a superhero for 3-4 years in the biggest war of all time, and will have been a SHIELD agent and Avenger in the modern era for 3 or so years.

*Iron Man will have been a superhero (and Avenger) for 7 years.

*Hulk will have been a big green rage monster for 12 years.

*Black Widow and Hawkeye will have been master assassins for SHIELD for an untold number of years.

*Thor will have been a god for thousands of years.



....Yeah, sorry: they're veterans.

[BigThor]

...the hell does that matter....? :huh:

By the time Avengers 2 drops presumably in 2015 (the guesstimate I'm going with):

*Captain America will have been a superhero for 3-4 years in the biggest war of all time, and will have been a SHIELD agent and Avenger in the modern era for 3 or so years.

*Iron Man will have been a superhero (and Avenger) for 7 years.

*Hulk will have been a big green rage monster for 12 years.

*Black Widow and Hawkeye will have been master assassins for SHIELD for an untold number of years.

*Thor will have been a god for thousands of years.



....Yeah, sorry: they're veterans.

They're not veteran Avengers, they're veteran "superheroes" I thought we were looking at this from an Avengers stand point.

Adding more heroes WOULD mean that the original avengers wouldnt get as much screen time as the last movie. Which isnt a problem for me

It's a big problem for me, Thor and Hawkeye haven't even bonded with the team yet.

[tamron]

I wasn't really thinking of M'Baku as cheap muscle. M'Baku would be the leader of his own tribe and would "tolerate" Klaw, but would turn on him in a second. Klaw also would just use M'Baku to his own advantage, but has his own agenda. I would say M'Baku has the upper hand to begin with, being the stronger of the two. Later, when Klaw gains super powers, it changes the balance of power. However, M'Baku still wishes to get rid of Klaw and simply allows T'Challa to do the work for him, hoping that once T'Challa's resources are exhausted, M'Baku will move in for the kill.

I didn't mean to imply you weren't giving Man-Ape his due, I just see a Klaw/M'Baku pairing too easily devolving into that comfortable trope. Hopefully Marvel would be smarter than that if it actually happened.

What I'd love to see if we get a trilogy is Klaw as the first villain, M'Baku in a sequel and Killmonger in the third.

I feel like all three villains have enough meat on their bones to support full movies and evolve T'Challa as a character.

The first addressing his origin, setting up his world. I'd want to establish T'Challa as a generational shift in Wakandan history. He left the village, saw the outside world, is foreign educated and returns. In addition to battling Klaw, he has to battle the culture in a way. He inevitably makes changes and not everyone in insular Wakanda is behind that. In his own mind, he has to battle T'Chaka's legacy, who was a revered king and more in tune with ritual and tradition than T'Challa is. Battling Klaw dovetails with that arc. It closes the door on his past; battling his father's killer, coming fully into his own.

The second, M'Baku represents the hardliners of the old way. Unsealing the power of the banned White Gorilla, he rivals T'Challa for leadership. The upshot is T'Challa comes to better understand and respect the power that can be harnessed in ritual magic, in the old ways of the elders.

The third, Killmonger represents his greatest rival. Physically stronger, nearly as intelligent. T'Challa must blend the past with the present and develops the nascent "shadow physics" to eventually triumph against him.

[Radioactive1980]

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje and Michael Jai White are both 44, too old imo.
We need a guy no older than 35.

[jaqua99]

Or we need no one. Gah come on marvel, I was excited, the one character, the one avenger I have zero interest in whatsoever, I STILL don't understand the excitement -_-.

[Chewy]

Or we need no one. Gah come on marvel, I was excited, the one character, the one avenger I have zero interest in whatsoever, I STILL don't understand the excitement -_-.
Read Priest's run. If you're still not excited I'll give you a cookie

[cherokeesam]

Read Priest's run. If you're still not excited I'll give you a cookie

Amen.
Hell, Priest's Black Panther should be the script for the BP movie, word-for-word and frame-for-frame.

[Radioactive1980]

I'd prefer Dr Strange, but I guess Marvel/Disney want to appeal to as wide an audience as possible by making a black guy the star of a film, and in turn, an Avenger.

[CB Fan]

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje and Michael Jai White are both 44, too old imo.
We need a guy no older than 35.

Eh, not that im a fan of either for the role but in Hollywood especially with men its not about how old you are its about how old you look, Look at RDJ.

[MessiahDecoy123]

You guys seen this? And some people wonder why Idris gets suggested for every black superhero role.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x77/monkeypaw666/pacific-rim-idris-elba.jpg

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's a promo shot for the movie Pacific Rim (2013).

[BigThor]

I'd prefer Dr Strange, but I guess Marvel/Disney want to appeal to as wide an audience as possible by making a black guy the star of a film, and in turn, an Avenger.

Black Panther is also a long time Avenger in the comics, it's not something Marvel is doing just because he's a "black character".

Doctor Strange really isn't an Avenger, he's more of a "do my own thing" type of guy.

[Hawkingbird]

For reference:


Michael Jai White (Spawn, The Dark Knight, Why Did I Get Married, Black Dynamite)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/michael_jai_white_05.jpg

Well he's certainly the nicest to look at :o
Oh gosh, so excited for this!

*coughs* Storm reference pleas ie X Men reboot *coughs*

[Radioactive1980]

Eh, not that im a fan of either for the role but in Hollywood especially with men its not about how old you are its about how old you look, Look at RDJ.

I knew someone would mention RDJ, but his character is the Iron Man armour, it don't matter if he is a bit older.

[DrCosmic]

I knew someone would mention RDJ, but his character is the Iron Man armour, it don't matter if he is a bit older.

Black Panther is in the Black Panther costume... both still are outside their costumes for most of the movie and have to look young, and the camera doesn't pick up numbers, it only picks up wrinkles.

[Golgo-13]

You guys seen this? And some people wonder why Idris gets suggested for every black superhero role.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x77/monkeypaw666/pacific-rim-idris-elba.jpg

Idris's already in the MCU. I don't want Marvel double dipping.

[chamber-music]

Black Panther is a more physical role than Iron man plus I'm sure Marvel will want to build a franchise out of Black Panther if its successful which means the actor may play the role for up to a decade in atleast a trilogy and avengers appearance.

Christian Bale has said he was starting to feel strained and worn out playing Batman when making the TDK rise because his getting older and his only 38 right now.

[TacomaTruck90]

Has Marvel confirmed the film yet and a release date for it ? Black Panther , I liked BP in EMA and the Ultimates film I'd rather see him as an avenger then someone like idk Falcon

[xeno000]

Idris's already in the MCU. I don't want Marvel double dipping.


They already have (sort of) with Chris Evans playing both the Human Torch and Captain America. The universe didn't end when that happened. Heimdall kept his helmet on most of the time, which could be advantageous; also, the accent for Black Panther/T'challa will be totally different. I'm not saying that I want to see this happen or that Marvel would consider it, just that it could work.

[chiefchirpa]

They already have (sort of) with Chris Evans playing both the Human Torch and Captain America. The universe didn't end when that happened. Heimdall kept his helmet on most of the time, which could be advantageous; also, the accent for Black Panther/T'challa will be totally different. I'm not saying that I want to see this happen or that Marvel would consider it, just that it could work.

Human Torch is in Fox Marvel universe.

If they want to double dip Elba, it's better to make him as Luke Cage.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Elba doesn't remind me of Luke Cage.

Not even a little bit.

[Silvermoon]

Figured I'd post this here (don't think it's been posted yet - at least not in this thread), seems like Aldis Hodge wouldn't mind wanting a crack at the BP role:

http://aldis-hodge.com/2012/06/aldis-hodge-wants-to-lead-marvels-black-panther/

The actual interview is from: http://www.examiner.com/article/interview-with-leverage-s-aldis-hodge-part-one and http://www.examiner.com/article/interview-with-leverage-s-aldis-hodge-part-two

"There's recently been a little buzz online about Marvel pushing for Black Panther, and I've been in love with the idea for years. I want the fans to know that the one role I really want to play is Black Panther. I grew up loving the Marvel world, and grew up on martial arts. I still train. When Black Panther came around, he was almost like an African American Batman."

[jaqua99]

:) !

[Dark Raven]

He'd be great for the role. Hopefully Marvel would see this and give him a chance, and wouldn't go for someone more well known. At the moment I don't think there is a really well-known black actor who is the right age and could headline a film anyway, other than Will Smith, so they might as well go for Hodge.

[tamron]

I get that Hodge is an actor, maybe he has the range for T'Challa and just hasn't had the proper role to show it. But nothing I've seen from him thus far would give me confidence were he to be cast.

That's not to say I dislike him as actor. Everything I seen him in he's been a gregarious, nice guy. And that's cool, I liked him in those roles. I just haven't seen the serious steely resolve that makes me think 'That's Black Panther'.

Is there a particular performance he had that clinched it for some people that I should see? I just don't get his appeal as T'Challa.

[DrCosmic]

Well, he kinda played a *lot* of roles on leverage, I've seen Alec Hardison go 'cold' and 'hardcore' enough times to believe Hodge as a badarse, when that's what's required. I can't pick out episodes off the top of my head, but I think the African prince Hardison played was pretty dark. I'll have to go find it.

[jaqua99]

I didn't mean to bump this, sorry. My ":) !" was actually just posted because I am happy that they are doing GotG, and that it looks like BP may not happen that year.

:P

[BigThor]

Which one would you guys rather, Anthony Mackie or Aldis Hodge?

[Chronoless]

I think Marvel might save black panther for Capitan America 2.

[Silvermoon]

Which one would you guys rather, Anthony Mackie or Aldis Hodge?
I'd say Aldis but I really REALLY like him... so maybe I'm a bit bias in that regard :oldrazz: The one thing that would make me a *tad* nervous if he were to get BP (and I fully acknowledge that this is purely and completely a selfish reason) is that I don't want his getting involved in the MCU to affect Leverage :dry: I mean, yeah, if the schedules were to conflict, maybe they could write him out of some episodes for a while like they did with Gina when she got pregnant, but...but it's just not the team without Hardison :(


Like I said... purely a selfish reason *lol*

[Dark Raven]

I'd say Aldis but I really REALLY like him... so maybe I'm a bit bias in that regard :oldrazz: The one thing that would make me a *tad* nervous if he were to get BP (and I fully acknowledge that this is purely and completely a selfish reason) is that I don't want his getting involved in the MCU to affect Leverage :dry: I mean, yeah, if the schedules were to conflict, maybe they could write him out of some episodes for a while like they did with Gina when she got pregnant, but...but it's just not the team without Hardison :(


Like I said... purely a selfish reason *lol*

Well that all depends on when Black Panther films. Who knows how long Leverage will keep going. If BP only films next year, then Leverage could easily be over by then. Some of last year's cons were slightly lacking and they tried to have other types of stories. They need to get back to the types of cons of the first few seasons which were more solid.

[Silvermoon]

Well that all depends on when Black Panther films. Who knows how long Leverage will keep going. If BP only films next year, then Leverage could easily be over by then. Some of last year's cons were slightly lacking and they tried to have other types of stories. They need to get back to the types of cons of the first few seasons which were more solid.
You mean tv shows don't go on forever and ever and ever :wow: :oldrazz: j/k...yeah, I know that Leverage might not be around by then... though I hope it still is :)

[TheCantave]

Ant Man is 2015 Hoping Panther will join him then. Marvel needs two movies for 2015

[Dark Raven]

Well Anthony Mackie is in talks for Falcon now, so hopefully Aldis Hodge will be considered for Panther.

[BigThor]

A Black Panther movie and an Ant-Man movie in the same year = niceeeeee. :woot:

[jaqua99]

Ant Man is 2015 Hoping Panther will join him then. Marvel needs two movies for 2015

A Black Panther movie and an Ant-Man movie in the same year = niceeeeee. :woot:

Nah, Antman has been teased for 2014, and for before Avengers 2. Marvel has said there may be an opportunity to do a 3rd movie in 2014 if Wright finishes his other work.

Here's hoping it gets done before Avengers 2.

And heres hoping for Avengers 2 we get
http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/d/d9/Ultron_2.jpg (http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/d/d9/Ultron_2.jpg)

[I'm Venom]

I think Marvel might save black panther for Capitan America 2.

I’m calling the post-credits scene for Captain America 2 right now. It will be the first meeting between Black Panther and Captain America. I’d be up for Michael Jai White for the role.

[M-2]

I’m calling the post-credits scene for Captain America 2 right now. It will be the first meeting between Black Panther and Captain America. I’d be up for Michael Jai White for the role.

I would rather want Michael Jai White as Luke Cage!!!

Dynaaamite!!

[I'm Venom]

I would rather want Michael Jai White as Luke Cage!!!

Dynaaamite!!

I'd rather see Henry Simmons as Luke Cage.

[Blackman]

I posted this in the other BP thread. Here are some ideas I have for BP


For director I don't know who I'd chose. The top 2 choices going through my head are Daniel Espinosa (he directed Safe House). He really can make some nice gritty action, although I doubt Marvel will really go for that. My other choice is Antoine Fuqua (he directed Training Day) he's hit or miss but I like some of his work

Aldis Hodge= T'Challa/Black Panter
http://i49.tinypic.com/2mrfvgm.jpg

Denzel Washington=T'Chaka 1) I dont think that, currently, Marvel could get Denzel 2) But if they do I probably wouldnt kill him off in the first act. Probably not until the end of the 2nd. Maybe have him kidnapped by Klaw
http://i47.tinypic.com/30m2w60.jpg

Vincent Cassel= Klaw. He'll need a huge costume redesign. Maybe have him working for AIM (that'd actually be really cool since Iron Man 3 has AIM) or Hydra
http://i48.tinypic.com/ot1dvc.jpg

Jessica Lucas=Monica Lynne. As I said earlier, I'd reimagine her as something other than just a singer. Probably some kind of government agent, like CIA or something (not SHIELD though)
http://i48.tinypic.com/2i0ucg7.jpg

John Gallanger Jr=Everett K Ross. I'd liken him to Ryan Reynolds' character is Safe House...but not as trained in fighting
http://i50.tinypic.com/10q9t9k.jpg

Danny Glover= N'Gassi
http://i47.tinypic.com/2808d4i.jpg

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje= Zuri
http://i47.tinypic.com/hwbxfm.jpg

Some different story ideas:
-Make it like a Bond, Mission Impossible spy movie. Different locations around the world, cool gadgets, tuxedos, all that good stuff
-Cameo from Captain America
-I'd have Monica and Everett going to Wakanda for another attempt from the US of diplomacy with Wakanda. They end up being in the wrong place at the wrong time and they end up getting swept up in the plot to stop Klaw
-I'd say have Klaw (arms dealer, terrorist) building some sort of device that needs different things from around the world, including vibranium (why he returns to Wakanda). He gets the vibranium after attacking Wakanda in the first act, which leads to T'Challa following him around the world
-T'Challa shouldnt have a lot of "fish out of water" stuff like in Thor.
-There has to be a free running chase. There has to be.
-For a team I'd say have: T'Challa, Zuri, Everett, and Monica chasing Klaw
-For locations, I think: Wakanda, Milan (Italy), Barcelona (Spain), NYC (I was debating between NYC or DC but I settled on DC because of the UN building)
-If by some miracle, BP ends up being a phase II film I would end it by setting up that T'challa will periodically spending time from Wakanda. Which sets him up for The Avengers 2

[BigThor]

Nah, Antman has been teased for 2014, and for before Avengers 2. Marvel has said there may be an opportunity to do a 3rd movie in 2014 if Wright finishes his other work.

Here's hoping it gets done before Avengers 2.

Oh okay, that's even better then. :up:

And heres hoping for Avengers 2 we get
http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/d/d9/Ultron_2.jpg (http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/d/d9/Ultron_2.jpg)

Yessirrrrrrrrr :woot:

[ken smith]

I’m calling the post-credits scene for Captain America 2 right now. It will be the first meeting between Black Panther and Captain America. I’d be up for Michael Jai White for the role.

I totally agree with this. But I don't think Michael Jai White would be the actor to play Black Panther

[DrCosmic]

I had an itch for BP, so I revived this thread. Hopefully he'll be in Avengers 3 :(


I posted this in the other BP thread. Here are some ideas I have for BP
Some different story ideas:
-Make it like a Bond, Mission Impossible spy movie. Different locations around the world, cool gadgets, tuxedos, all that good stuff
-Cameo from Captain America
-I'd have Monica and Everett going to Wakanda for another attempt from the US of diplomacy with Wakanda. They end up being in the wrong place at the wrong time and they end up getting swept up in the plot to stop Klaw
-I'd say have Klaw (arms dealer, terrorist) building some sort of device that needs different things from around the world, including vibranium (why he returns to Wakanda). He gets the vibranium after attacking Wakanda in the first act, which leads to T'Challa following him around the world
-T'Challa shouldnt have a lot of "fish out of water" stuff like in Thor.
-There has to be a free running chase. There has to be.
-For a team I'd say have: T'Challa, Zuri, Everett, and Monica chasing Klaw
-For locations, I think: Wakanda, Milan (Italy), Barcelona (Spain), NYC (I was debating between NYC or DC but I settled on DC because of the UN building)
-If by some miracle, BP ends up being a phase II film I would end it by setting up that T'challa will periodically spending time from Wakanda. Which sets him up for The Avengers 2

I probably said this before, but the world tour aspect is growing on me. Klaw gets the power supply from Wakanda, has the device manufactured in Italy, has it surgically attached to his severed limb in India and then heads to DC to actually use it. I would probably have someone die at some point, probably Zuri, maybe put S'Yan on the team instead of Zuri and let it be him.

[Joeyjojo72]

Marvel will have to change the costume pretty significantly if they go forward with this. The outfit from the comics is far too similar to both Batman and Catwoman. A redesign will happen.

This BP, with or without the cape, is a non-starter:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/121168/2504799-marvelavengersallianceblackpanther_1.jpg

[Dark Raven]

But if they change it significantly then it won't look like Black Panther anymore. Sure, you can argue his personality will be the same, but the look is just as much a part of him as his personality.

Since he won't be in armour or wearing rubber, that already will distinguish him from Batman. Also, he'll have a full head mask. I don't want to see a cowl of any sort.

I'd like to see a classic 70s Black Panther without all the bling or the cape, with a bluish tinge to him.

[marcvader]

But if they change it significantly then it won't look like Black Panther anymore. Sure, you can argue his personality will be the same, but the look is just as much a part of him as his personality.

Since he won't be in armour or wearing rubber, that already will distinguish him from Batman. Also, he'll have a full head mask. I don't want to see a cowl of any sort.

I'd like to see a classic 70s Black Panther without all the bling or the cape, with a bluish tinge to him.

Me too.

[terry78]

I also want him to show some hints of superhuman ability due to the herbs, but have it be kind of ambiguous, like people wondering is he just that good, are the herbs supernatural in nature, etc.

[DrCosmic]

That does sound fly. I think he should be super-soldier-ish, but do some really incredible things with his agility and acrobatics that just push the envelope and make you wonder, but not enough for it to seem cartoonish either.

I think the easiest way to set Black Panther apart from Batman *instantly* for even the daftest of viewers is the necklace on top of the capeless Kirby costume. It's skin tight, not armor, it's full masked, no cape, he's got a necklace, he's not Batman. I think too much gold trim is gaudy though, and contrary to, y'know, stealth.

What would make it even cooler is if the film accentuated the things that BP and Batman have in common that movie Batman doesn't have: World Class Deductive Skills (Holmes/Lightman level), Incredible Acrobatic combat skills (Kung Fu Movie level), and an abundance of post-modern gadgets (Brosnan Bond, Keaton Bat-franchise level).

Mostly I want him to set himself apart from other Avengers, and indeed, other cinematic superheroes with his incredible brain power, not just for science, but for everything.

[KangConquers]

That does sound fly. I think he should be super-soldier-ish, but do some really incredible things with his agility and acrobatics that just push the envelope and make you wonder, but not enough for it to seem cartoonish either.

I think the easiest way to set Black Panther apart from Batman *instantly* for even the daftest of viewers is the necklace on top of the capeless Kirby costume. It's skin tight, not armor, it's full masked, no cape, he's got a necklace, he's not Batman. I think too much gold trim is gaudy though, and contrary to, y'know, stealth.

What would make it even cooler is if the film accentuated the things that BP and Batman have in common that movie Batman doesn't have: World Class Deductive Skills (Holmes/Lightman level), Incredible Acrobatic combat skills (Kung Fu Movie level), and an abundance of post-modern gadgets (Brosnan Bond, Keaton Bat-franchise level).

Mostly I want him to set himself apart from other Avengers, and indeed, other cinematic superheroes with his incredible brain power, not just for science, but for everything.


I'd have some sort of ceremonial outfit with tons of bling and the cape just so we get to see both designs on the big screen (the same way Cap managed to squeeze 3 looks into one film.)

[Spider-Vader]

The plain suit is my favorite, so I'd have it be done like this:

Use this for fight scenes:

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/Deadpool77/12887storystory_full-6867656_.jpg

Use this for when T'Challa is doing royal activities:

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/Deadpool77/Blackpanther1.jpg

[MessiahDecoy123]

As happy I am that Ant Man was announced I'd being doing somersaults in the streets if they announced Black Panther.

[terry78]

I like Ant Man, but I do have to raise an eyebrow at him getting greenlit before BP. Especially with their current standings in comics.

[MessiahDecoy123]

They need a scene in the Black Panther movie where he takes on each of the big three toe-to-toe besting each of them tactically. At that point they all look at each other and say they rather have this guy on their side.

[MessiahDecoy123]

I like Ant Man, but I do have to raise an eyebrow at him getting greenlit before BP. Especially with their current standings in comics.

I think they're laying the groundwork for Ultron but if Black Panther doesn't get a phase 3 solo movie alot of fans are going to seriously question the reasoning.

[KangConquers]

I sometimes wonder if Marvel is just concerned that making a film that glorifies a dark skinned man who worships a pagan god and refuses to share his natural resources with America will scare away the Romney sect. That sounds like something that would have Neo-cons carrying torches through the woods to Marvel Studios HQ.

I know this is a company that has managed to make an a-political movie about a guy who wears an American flag, but I feel like Marvel is trying to make BP less... divisive in his characterization.

[Spider-Vader]

They need a scene in the Black Panther movie where he takes on each of the big three toe-to-toe besting each of them tactically. At that point they all look at each other and say they rather have this guy on their side.
That scene would make me geekgasm so hard, though I expect we'd see that in an Avengers film rather than a Black Panther movie.

I think they're laying the groundwork for Ultron but if Black Panther doesn't get a phase 3 solo movie alot of fans are going to seriously question the reasoning.

I will seriously be p***ed off if we don't see Panther in Phase 3, I think it is sort of lame that the only new franchise we're getting in Phase II is Guardians. Not because of Guardians itself; but because of the lack of variety.

[KangConquers]

That scene would make me geekgasm so hard, though I expect we'd see that in an Avengers film rather than a Black Panther movie.



I will seriously be p***ed off if we don't see Panther in Phase 3, I think it is sort of lame that the only new franchise we're getting in Phase II is Guardians. Not because of Guardians itself; but because of the lack of variety.

I'm hoping we get two new franchises in Phase 3 (well, 3 if you count Ant-Man. Still haven't decided if 6 months after A2 is phase 2 or Phase 3.)

[Spider-Vader]

I'm thinking Dr. Strange, Black Panther & maybe even Daredevil could all pop-up in Phase III.

[JB-the-Hunter]

I still believe a Black Panther solo movie could come in Phase 2 for two reasons. Before GOTG was announced, Latino Review said that BP would be the second Phase 2 movie to come out in 2014, and if that was true and Marvel just ended up changing to GOTG later on in the process, then that means Marvel had Black Panther ready to be greenlit. Plus there's plenty of time and room left for a 2014 release. The other reason is that Joe Quesada recently said "There is a project I am very much involved in, and I'll give you this hint. I have to go to the West Coast to work on it. There have been rumors about it little things have leaked here and there, but there has been no official announcement." Out of all the potential unannounced movies (BP, Ms. Marvel, Dr. Strange) Black Panther is the only one that's had more than it's share of rumors and leaks and such and it's the one the public is asking for the most. He could be talking about something totally different, but it's what I'm hoping for.

[Blackman]

yeah it's still possible. Im hoping for it, but i think if we dont hear anything by the end of the year then it's out of Phase 2 for sure

[JB-the-Hunter]

Yeah he said they can talk about it in the next couple months so we'll know what it is soon enough.

[MessiahDecoy123]

I think Disney is sticking to only 2 marvel studio films per year.

I'm hoping for Captain America 3 and the first Black Panther movie in 2017 before Avengers 3 in 2018.

[Chewy]

Quesada never said it was a movie. I assumed he was talking about something else.

And anyway Feige was fairly firm that they're sticking to two movies a year for now.

[MessiahDecoy123]

I sometimes wonder if Marvel is just concerned that making a film that glorifies a dark skinned man who worships a pagan god and refuses to share his natural resources with America will scare away the Romney sect. That sounds like something that would have Neo-cons carrying torches through the woods to Marvel Studios HQ.

I know this is a company that has managed to make an a-political movie about a guy who wears an American flag, but I feel like Marvel is trying to make BP less... divisive in his characterization.

I think Black Panther is too politically charged for Disney's squeeky clean image.

I hope I'm wrong though. The Avengers franchise is incomplete without Black Panther in the mix.

[Hypestyle]

panther deserves his own film without a doubt. I just want Reggie Hudlin & Spike Lee involved..

[MessiahDecoy123]

panther deserves his own film without a doubt. I just want Reggie Hudlin & Spike Lee involved..

Getting those two is the perfect way to polarize Avenger fans and movie goers regarding Black Panther's sensitive political topics.

They would lay down the political and racial ideas way too thick. The backlash would be formidable and relentless. Get a true storyteller who understands the universal appeal of BP's noble nature and motives as well as why he's a smooth, super-intelligent bad ass.

[chamber-music]

I like Ant Man, but I do have to raise an eyebrow at him getting greenlit before BP. Especially with their current standings in comics.

Ant-Man has a script and director ready to go which is why it was greenlighted before Black Panther.

I think KangConquers has a point with the idea Marvel might feel a bit more sensitive with Black Panther than they might with other characters.

Marvel probably feel that they really need to get the depiction of the character and his world right so that it doesn't get turned into some P.C media feeding frenzy which it possibly might anyway regardless of how the film turns out.

[Spider-Vader]

panther deserves his own film without a doubt. I just want Reggie Hudlin & Spike Lee involved..

Spike Lee's Black Panther:

T'Challa: The Avengers? F*** all y'all honkeys, c'mon Falcon let's get out of here!

Falcon:......... Yeah no

:oldrazz:

I think Marvel could easily avoid any controversial things about Black Panther. Just avoid any religious & political topics; the movie shouldn't be bogged down by that stuff anyway, it should be an origin story for T'Challa.

The only controversy I can see popping up is the character's name. People would probably claim Marvel got it from that group of racist idiots, despite T'Challa coming first.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Spike Lee's Black Panther:

T'Challa: The Avengers? F*** all y'all honkeys, c'mon Falcon let's get out of here!

Falcon:......... Yeah no

:oldrazz:

I think Marvel could easily avoid any controversial things about Black Panther. Just avoid any religious & political topics; the movie shouldn't be bogged down by that stuff anyway, it should be an origin story for T'Challa.

The only controversy I can see popping up is the character's name. People would probably claim Marvel got it from that group of racist idiots, despite T'Challa coming first.

1) No, they shouldn't remove all political content from a Black Panther solo film. The very concept of Wakanda challenges the idea of imperialism.

2) You're terribly uneducated about the Black Panther Party from the 60's and 70's. They weren't doing anything idiotic other than trying to defend their communities from institutional and organized racism in an assertive manner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

[Donald Thomas]

Aloha,
I think they should come out with an animated DVD that really takes the time to explain the Mythos of The Black Panther.Marvel's first animated Panther series was Fair at best.
For those BP fans, I invite you over to my web site. I own the complete Black Panther comic collection.
Spidey rules except in Wakanda

[terry78]

They already tried to do the animated route, and nobody even batted an eye at that ****.

[TheAQU4M4N]

If Mr. Ecko wasn't apart of the Thor 2 cast, I would love him to be Black Panther.

[chamber-music]

I remember that old Avengers storyline in which Falcon was recruited by Henry Gyrich so that the avengers would be more racially diverse. Falcon didn't appreciate being the token minority and quit.

[insta01]

This is very curious, They have a really a good choice.

[DrCosmic]

They need a scene in the Black Panther movie where he takes on each of the big three toe-to-toe besting each of them tactically. At that point they all look at each other and say they rather have this guy on their side.

Dude... that scene is so in my head...

Keep Cap off balance, put a hacking/shutdown device on Iron Man's chest, redirect Thor's lightning back at him, appeal to Banner to stop Hulk... kinda like he handled the whole group in EMH.

On Politics/Religion:

Obviously a bit has to be in there, since it's about a country and he gets his powers from a religious ceremony, but it could be handled in a way that's not preachy, but that builds into why his character is unique, and why his personal perspective is different than others. If we explore the politics and religion with him, then it's just character development, if he comes pre-packaged with this completely new set of politics and religion that he feels is superior and the audience is unfamiliar with/doesn't, then that creates alienation with the character.

[JB-the-Hunter]

Quesada never said it was a movie. I assumed he was talking about something else.

And anyway Feige was fairly firm that they're sticking to two movies a year for now.

He said it's on the West Coast and that Disney would be upset if he revealed it. I don't see how that's not a movie. In fact if you watch the interview, it's pretty clear he's talking about a movie.

[jaqua99]

Dude... that scene is so in my head...

Keep Cap off balance, put a hacking/shutdown device on Iron Man's chest, redirect Thor's lightning back at him, appeal to Banner to stop Hulk... kinda like he handled the whole group in EMH.

On Politics/Religion:

Obviously a bit has to be in there, since it's about a country and he gets his powers from a religious ceremony, but it could be handled in a way that's not preachy, but that builds into why his character is unique, and why his personal perspective is different than others. If we explore the politics and religion with him, then it's just character development, if he comes pre-packaged with this completely new set of politics and religion that he feels is superior and the audience is unfamiliar with/doesn't, then that creates alienation with the character.


lol which is why i don't like the character

[TheCantave]

One of Tony Starks suits in IM3 is rumored to be made from Vibranium. I wont say wont say which suit for spoiler purposes. As you may recall in Captain America, Steve asks Howard why his shield is not standard issue. Howard explains Vibraniums propertie, how rare it is and that his shield is all the have. My question is where does Tony get enough Vibranium for a full suit? Will this finally introduce Wakanda or the BP to the Marvel universe?

[Spider-Vader]

I think Wakanda will be introduced, but I doubt we'll see BP until Phase III. :(

[DrCosmic]

I'd be a little miffed if Tony had a Vibranium suit... that kinda trumps Black Panther AND Captain America. Boo to that!

[InternetPeople]

What if Stark received the vibranium as a gift from Wakanda introducing the Black Panther into the MCU?

[blalex620]

I wrote this in another thread but this is a little plot of what I thought for a Black Panther film

Black Panther - Set in a mix of Wakanda and New York. Origins of Black Panther are explored in depth. Explains Wakanda and it's lore. BP faces Ape-Man. In the mix BP goes to New York and breaks into Tony Stark's lab and plants a virus in his system. He then makes himself known so Iron Man can come after him in Wakanda. There they fight and BP activates the virus rendering Tony's suit useless. Having defeated Iron Man he offers BP a shot on the team after realizing BP is not a villain. Leads in to Avengers 3.

What do you guys think?

[J'adore]

Black Panther NEEDS his own solo movie. His origin and just general awesomeness is perfect for the big screen. My go to casting choice is Chiwetel Ejiofor

[Spider-Vader]

I don't think any other characters should have a large presence in a BP movie, it'd take way from T'Challa

[DrCosmic]

Agreed... everything about the film should be funneled into making T'Challa the most awesome and loveable guy on the planet. Everything else, including massive Tony Stark cameos, must go!