Thor's power level

[BigThor]

They have a thread in the Man of Steel threads on Superman's power level, so I thought I make one about Thor's power level in this film francise.

So the question is, how powerful do you want Thor to be in THOR 2 & 3?

[WhiteScorpio]

When battling Ego, he was able to hurt a whole living planet with his strike. So he can strike mighty hard with his mallet. (Not to speak about destroying the Rainbow Bridge with it in the movie). As for personal strength I haven't seen him lifting anything heavier than a side of a building. Have you?

[Gamma Burst]

When battling Ego, he was able to hurt a whole living planet with his strike. So he can strike mighty hard with his mallet. (Not to speak about destroying the Rainbow Bridge with it in the movie). As for personal strength I haven't seen him lifting anything heavier than a side of a building. Have you?

He lifted the Midgard Serpent, big enough to circle the entire world.:word:

[WhiteScorpio]

He lifted the Midgard Serpent, big enough to circle the entire world.:word:

Yeah, somehow I forgot that.

[Gamma Burst]

Yeah, somehow I forgot that.

For more, take a look at this awesome respect thread.

[elgaz]

I didn't really get a strong sense of his power/strength from the first Thor film.

I mean, don't get me wrong - we saw him decimating a load of frost giants, and he took down the Destroyer, not to mention destroying the Rainbow bridge at the end. He's obviously skilled with his weapon, and a good strategist. But in each of these incidents, it appeared to be Mjolnir doing the majority of the work. Thor's only fist fight was when he was depowered, and we never got to see how strong he himself is asides from his nonchalant flipping of a banquet table - which is hardly a great example!

The Avengers will hopefully showcase his raw strength a bit more. Having Thor and Hulk in the same movie gives us a good opportunity to see what kind of power level he has - I'd like to see him grappling with Hulk, or lifting something incredibly heavy, or fighting an army without using Mjolnir.

[OsGom]

He lifted the Midgard Serpent, big enough to circle the entire world.:word:

In the same story he also wrestled Time and drank a good portion of the Ocean.

[Gamma Burst]

In the same story he also wrestled Time and drank a good portion of the Ocean.

True. Utgard-Loki really tricked Thor in this myth.:yay:

[WhiteScorpio]

The Avengers will hopefully showcase his raw strength a bit more.

I think we need Hercules for that. It is one of the worthiest opponents for Thor to have a fist fight with. I wonder, is there any chance of seeing this noble Olympian in, say, Thor 3?

[Gamma Burst]

I think we need Hercules for that. It is one of the worthiest opponents for Thor to have a fist fight with. I wonder, is there any chance of seeing this noble Olympian in, say, Thor 3?

I'd love to see at least a mention of the other pantheons.

[BigThor]

When battling Ego, he was able to hurt a whole living planet with his strike. So he can strike mighty hard with his mallet. (Not to speak about destroying the Rainbow Bridge with it in the movie). As for personal strength I haven't seen him lifting anything heavier than a side of a building. Have you?

He also lifted the Odin-Sword and threw it into a Celestial which weighs millions of tons.


The Avengers will hopefully showcase his raw strength a bit more. Having Thor and Hulk in the same movie gives us a good opportunity to see what kind of power level he has - I'd like to see him grappling with Hulk, or lifting something incredibly heavy, or fighting an army without using Mjolnir.

I agree, The Avengers film serves as a perfect opportunity to showcase Thor's strength without Mjolnir so hopefully Whedon doesn't skimp out on the feats.

I'd love to see at least a mention of the other pantheons.

Which is all I want there to be, I don't really want other pantheons actually showing up.

[cherokeesam]

His power level is over 9000, of course.


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[BigThor]

^^^ Hehehehehehe

[Bruce_Begins]

Now, One thing that I have noticed is that in Marvel movies (except Spidey and X-men movies.) movie heroes do not have the same power level as their comic book counterparts, they are always scaled down versions, maybe to give a more real world feel to them.

[BigThor]

Well to be honest Thor was scaled down in the Avengers comicbooks as well, he was MUCH more powerful and skilled in other books.'

They prett much "toned down the powerful members down so they would need their teammates help, sometimes it just got ridiculous.

[Gamma Burst]

Well to be honest Thor was scaled down in the Avengers comicbooks as well, he was MUCH more powerful and skilled in other books.'

They prett much "toned down the powerful members down so they would need their teammates help, sometimes it just got ridiculous.

True, even though they always stated he was the most powerful member.

[BigThor]

True, even though they always stated he was the most powerful member.

Yeah they did, I hope they acknowledge Thor and Hulk as being the most powerful members of the team in The Avengers film.

[BigThor]

bump

[Neo_3]

He held Asgard with Beta Ray on his back.

[The Morningstar]

I want to see more flying feats, like some actual dog fights. And more energy manipulation. Maybe a God Blast or something.

[BigThor]

I want to see more flying feats, like some actual dog fights. And more energy manipulation. Maybe a God Blast or something.

I agree, I definately want to see Thor flying through the air with as much maneuverability as Iron Man.

I certainly would like to see more energy manipulation as well, which means tons of lighting attacks, energy absortion with Moljnir and maybe a God Blast like you said. If the God Blast doesn't make it into this film Thor should most definately use it during the final battle of THOR II.

[Godzilla2000]

Thor's Power Level is OVER 9,000!!!!

[demitri_vampiro]

i just hope they are consistent with the power levels. if thor has super speed he should always have it, and not be slow during one action sequence and fast during other. same goes for other members.
i remember in supermen returns that it took supermen a minute or so to catch that plane, eventhough he can fly with the speed of light.
i see this consistency faults in many movies.
hopefully they will do it right in avengers.

[BigThor]

Yeah, because as awesome as Thor's portrayal in A:EMH was there were certain times where is power levels were very inconsistent.

He beat The Wrecking Crew, three huge Frost Giants, Loki, and he slowed down the entire island of Manhattan but in other episodes he couldn't even beat Enchantress. :doh:

[Godzilla2000]

Yeah, because as awesome as Thor's portrayal in A:EMH was there were certain times where is power levels were very inconsistent.

He beat The Wrecking Crew, three huge Frost Giants, Loki, and he slowed down the entire island of Manhattan but in other episodes he couldn't even beat Enchantress. :doh:

Can't you see, it's the power of Enchantress' boobies, that's why Thor had trouble beating her.

[BigThor]

Can't you see, it's the power of Enchantress' boobies, that's why Thor had trouble beating her.

Probably so, either that or her butt in that short skirt she kept wearing.

lol :woot:

[herakles]

I would hope that Thor is portrayed as rival to the Hulk in the strength department. Given that Thor was protrayed to be able to lift the Migard Serpent (no small feat given that it encircled the entire planet!!) in both the comics and myths.

[BigThor]

I would hope that Thor is portrayed as rival to the Hulk in the strength department. Given that Thor was protrayed to be able to lift the Migard Serpent (no small feat given that it encircled the entire planet!!) in both the comics and myths.

Yeah I don't mind Hulk being stronger since strength is his "thing", but I definately would've like for Thor to be shown as rivaling him in strength.

[The Morningstar]

I want to see Thor in space, creating a cosmic storm with Mjolnir and using it to fly ftl through space or as an attack.

[BigThor]

I want to see Thor in space, creating a cosmic storm with Mjolnir and using it to fly ftl through space or as an attack.

F*** yeah dude, I'd love for them to show Thor's ability to create storms in space as well as his ability to survive in space unaided. :highfive:

[jaqua99]

I agree, I definately want to see Thor flying through the air with as much maneuverability as Iron Man.

I certainly would like to see more energy manipulation as well, which means tons of lighting attacks, energy absortion with Moljnir and maybe a God Blast like you said. If the God Blast doesn't make it into this film Thor should most definately use it during the final battle of THOR II.

Yes. Maybe have Surtur kill Odin in a battle with him and Thor. And not like you said in the other thread, actually have just Odin die. Surtur leaves.

So with Odin dead, Thor inherits the Odinforce, takes on Surtur with help from Loki who has a chance at redemption, and Thor takes him out with a godblast.

Then for Thor 3, he masters the power of the runs and basically just goes BAMF on all the 9 realms :P.


seriously though I actually would like seeing Rune King Thor worked into it somehow for the third movie.

[Superhero 101]

I'd like to see more lightning attacks maybe with Mjolnir powered up with some lightning and Thor just swinging away.

[BigThor]

I'd like to see more lightning attacks maybe with Mjolnir powered up with some lightning and Thor just swinging away.

Yeah like in EMH when Thor swing's Mjolnir and lightning archs shoot out at his enemies.

[ken smith]

I have never read a single Thor comic book in my life but when i watched the Thor movie. He looked so impressive and powerful that i now believe that he's the most superhero in all of comics. He's more powerful than Superman, Hulk or even the Silver Surfer to me.

[Blight616]

I have never read a single Thor comic book in my life but when i watched the Thor movie. He looked so impressive and powerful that i now believe that he's the most superhero in all of comics. He's more powerful than Superman, Hulk or even the Silver Surfer to me.

I've felt that way since I first read Thor back in 1976.

[Iron-Fan]

I have never read a single Thor comic book in my life but when i watched the Thor movie. He looked so impressive and powerful that i now believe that he's the most superhero in all of comics. He's more powerful than Superman, Hulk or even the Silver Surfer to me.


You believe wrongly then :cwink:

[BigThor]

I have never read a single Thor comic book in my life but when i watched the Thor movie. He looked so impressive and powerful that i now believe that he's the most superhero in all of comics. He's more powerful than Superman, Hulk or even the Silver Surfer to me.

Really? He's FARRRR more powerful in comics and cartoons than he was in THOR or The Avengers.

[Avenger]

I'm pretty sure Thor isn't more powerful than Superman, but that's because Superman is ridiculously, boringly overpowered.

[The Morningstar]

Superman is just faster than Thor. But if you equalised their speed, Thor would trash him. Or just dump him into another dimension.

The Surfer would beat them both.

[Oberon sexton]

I want Thor to be able to kill Hulk with his bare hands :oldrazz:



But seriously I'd love to see some teleportation :up:

[The Morningstar]

Yea, hopefully Thor learns some new abilities with Mjolnir. Although if he starts manipulating energy, opening portals and all other kinds of weird ****, might make it too much of a plot device.

[BigThor]

I'm pretty sure Thor isn't more powerful than Superman, but that's because Superman is ridiculously, boringly overpowered.

Well, Wizard Magazine did list Thor as #1 on their "Most Powerful Superhero" list with Superman coming in 3rd.

[Oberon sexton]

Which Superman are we even talking about?
Golden age, silver age, Earth-1, Red Son, Superboy Prime, Kal-L, Ultraman, Earth-22,Kingdom Come, All-Star, president Superman,Earth One, Nazi-Earth,Flashpoint or Nu52?

[The Morningstar]

Those Wizards lists make as much sense as the IGN ones. Re: Not much.

[ken smith]

Really? He's FARRRR more powerful in comics and cartoons than he was in THOR or The Avengers.

Thanks for the heads up BigThor, I never knew he was more powerful in the comics. Thor can definitely beat Superman.

[The Morningstar]

Nein. Supes is too fast. Him and Thor are about the same level of strength, and Mjolnir gives Thor all these other powers. But FTL speed kills.

That's the thing with DC, most of their heavy hitters come with FTL or near FTL speed as standard. Marvel doesn't really do that. The only ones with FTL speed are the likes of Silver Surfer, Gladiator and Nova.

[ken smith]

Nein. Supes is too fast. Him and Thor are about the same level of strength, and Mjolnir gives Thor all these other powers. But FTL speed kills.

That's the thing with DC, most of their heavy hitters come with FTL or near FTL speed as standard. Marvel doesn't really do that. The only ones with FTL speed are the likes of Silver Surfer, Gladiator and Nova.

Superman speed might be too much for Thor nevertheless Thor will still put up a good fight. What does FTL stand for?

[The Morningstar]

Faster than light. It means Supes could land a hundred punches on Thor's face before he even realised he was in a fight.

But Superman rarely uses the speed blitz because fights would be over in one panel and that would make for a boring comic.

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In this video from about 2.50 onwards, that is Superman speed blitzing.

[ken smith]

Thanks The MorningStar. I know believe Superman will beat Thor due to FLT.

[The Morningstar]

Yea, but if you equalised their speed, Thor would trash Supes. About the same level of strength, but it's all the wacky powers he gets with Mjolnir that'd give him the advantage.

[BigThor]

Yea, but if you equalised their speed, Thor would trash Supes. About the same level of strength, but it's all the wacky powers he gets with Mjolnir that'd give him the advantage.

Don't forget about Thor having MUCH better fighting skills, besides Supes hardly ever uses his FTL speed in fights.

[BigThor]

BUMP

Since news and interest is really starting to pick up regarding Thor: The Dark World

[jaqua99]

Want more news!

[BigThor]

The power level thread in the Man of Steel section is BOOMING, so why isn't Thor's dammit!

[Bren]

Because Superman is better.










Aaaand here we go :D

[American Maid]

So have there been any stories in the books over the years of Thor battling trolls? And what powers did he use on them? :)

[jaqua99]

thor has battled everything lol

[BigThor]

Because Superman is better.



Aaaand here we go :D

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So have there been any stories in the books over the years of Thor battling trolls? And what powers did he use on them? :)

This thread isn't about his variety of powers, it's about the level at which of Thor's abilities operate.

[jaqua99]

I think she was just asking lol.

I really hope we get more than just lightning, but that may not be the case. If not, atleast give us that battle cry, I want a "have at thee!"

or atleast moderize it, fit it into the mcu

"HAVE AT YOU!!"

[BigThor]

^ Oh I didn't mean to sound like a jerk, I was just letting her know what I meant.

[jaqua99]

oh its all good, lol I think her question was just out of the blue, not related to what anyone said lol, but oh well, it can be dificult to intepret what people say via text without the tone of voice, manerisms etc. But I gotcha

[American Maid]

Because Superman is better.

So have there been any stories in the books over the years of Thor battling trolls? And what powers did he use on them? :)

This thread isn't about his variety of powers, it's about the level at which of Thor's abilities operate.

I think she was just asking lol.

^ Oh I didn't mean to sound like a jerk, I was just letting her know what I meant.

oh its all good, lol I think her question was just out of the blue, not related to what anyone said lol,

lol Well, actually, I was trying to be sly. But I bumbled it, and it didn't convey through the post anyway.

My intent had been to post something ostensibly on-topic but which obliquely gave Bren a little bit of grief for having stirred the pot.

(And btw, Bren, I meant the grief to be the friendliest, most good-natured kind of grief one can dispense. Just sort of a "I saw what you wrote there!" kind of thing. And I took your pot-stirring to be friendly and good-natured too, both from your comment,
Aaaand here we go :D
and by having seen you post in this forum before. So I know you are genuinely interested in the life and times of Thor.)

And BigThor is right; what I said was more along the lines of "catalog of powers" rather than "magnitude thereof". (I was going to try to compose an alternate that would be more on-topic, but it's probably better to quit while I'm behind! lol)

it can be dificult to intepret what people say via text without the tone of voice, manerisms etc. But I gotcha

Yes, indeed, as I'm clearly demonstrating. The post totally didn't work. I meant to be harmless and a little bit funny. Sorry for the interruption!

[jaqua99]

:P



BigThor, I want to see Thor do something like he did in this fight

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The glory fight is one of my favorites of Thor, and it's the last time I recall Thor looking like the Thor of all, for some reason, this fight reminded me of the classic Thor.

I LOVED this fight

[herolee10]

Well like BigThor's current avatar clearly demonstrates, I want to see Thor lift up some villains into the air like he did with Iron Man in their forest Fight.

[the great thor]

In the avengers movie i think they didnt show thors physical strenght enough, it was downplayed to hype up the hulk, but everyone know thor has strenght on par with hulk.

[BigThor]

BigThor, I want to see Thor do something like he did in this fight

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The glory fight is one of my favorites of Thor, and it's the last time I recall Thor looking like the Thor of all, for some reason, this fight reminded me of the classic Thor.

I LOVED this fight

Yeah that fight was awesome, I love the fact that it was in space and forced Thor to pull out hug moves. I also think the overall size and scope of the fight added on to it's epicness.

Well like BigThor's current avatar clearly demonstrates, I want to see Thor lift up some villains into the air like he did with Iron Man in their forest Fight.

Same here :up:

I want Thor to continue using grappling moves except this time I want his slams to make craters.

In the avengers movie i think they didnt show thors physical strenght enough, it was downplayed to hype up the hulk, but everyone know thor has strenght on par with hulk.

Thor's strength had to be downplayed in favor of Hulk's, strength is all the Hulk has while Thor has many more.

[American Maid]

I want Thor to continue using grappling moves except this time I want his slams to make craters.

Yeah, I'd like to see that!

[BigThor]

Yeah, I'd like to see that!

Yep like the craters that were made when Hulk slammed Loki or this....

Blade vs Dracula (2:34 secs)
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[American Maid]

Yep like the craters that were made when Hulk slammed Loki or this....

Blade vs Dracula (2:34 secs)
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Well, when you wrote about craters, the ones Loki made were not what I imagined. Nah, those are puny craters for a puny god :yay:

Now the Dracula crater, that would be acceptable.

[jaqua99]

Thor vs Kurse

Its gunna be huge

[herolee10]

So with Kurse being physically stronger than Thor being a canon thing from the comics, no one here has a problem with Thor getting his ass kicked the first time (ala Bane vs Batman from TDKR/First Fight) when they encounter each other in the film?

[BigThor]

So with Kurse being physically stronger than Thor being a canon thing from the comics, no one here has a problem with Thor getting his ass kicked the first time (ala Bane vs Batman from TDKR/First Fight) when they encounter each other in the film?

Actually the first time they fought Algrim wasn't Kurse yet and Thor is stronger than Algrim. So that's probably what's gonna happen, Thor kicks his ass only for him to come back as Kurse and Thor will beat him again after a hard battle.

Kurse is physically stronger than Thor but Thor has so many powers that he should never just flat out get his ass kicked.

Well, when you wrote about craters, the ones Loki made were not what I imagined. Nah, those are puny craters for a puny god :yay:

Now the Dracula crater, that would be acceptable.

Well I wasn't talking about the size, just the fact that they were craters created from body slams. I'd prefer craters like the Dracula slam, but even if we get the ones like Loki's it's still better than not having any like Thor's slams in TA.

[herolee10]

Actually the first time they fought Algrim wasn't Kurse yet and Thor is stronger than Algrim. So that's probably what's gonna happen, Thor kicks his ass only for him to come back as Kurse and Thor will beat him again after a hard battle.

Kurse is physically stronger than Thor but Thor has so many powers that he should never just flat out get his ass kicked.




Thanks for the information.

I wonder on how people would feel though if during their fight, we actually see something that's been kind of common to show within animated fights featuring heroes with capes and that is seeing someone grab Thor by his Cape and swing him around endlessly before throwing him at a far distance.

[American Maid]

Well, when you wrote about craters, the ones Loki made were not what I imagined. Nah, those are puny craters for a puny god :yay:

Now the Dracula crater, that would be acceptable.

Well I wasn't talking about the size, just the fact that they were craters created from body slams. I'd prefer craters like the Dracula slam, but even if we get the ones like Loki's it's still better than not having any like Thor's slams in TA.

Yeah, definitely.

[American Maid]

I wonder on how people would feel though if during their fight, we actually see something that's been kind of common to show within animated fights featuring heroes with capes and that is seeing someone grab Thor by his Cape and swing him around endlessly before throwing him at a far distance.

I like the idea so long as they can show it without it looking fakey.

A part of me, of course, wonders if the cape would not just tear off. I was thinking along the same lines when I was thinking about Thor slamming Kurse to the turf--would one of the horns break off Kurse's helmet?

Do costumes ever get damaged in these match-ups?

[American Maid]

BTW, can Kurse fly, or does he have super-leap? As far as I know, he doesn't. But it would be fun if there were some harness work in this film.

[elizah72]

Well, when you wrote about craters, the ones Loki made were not what I imagined. Nah, those are puny craters for a puny god :yay:

GASP!!! American Maid! I think that comment officially disqualifies you from joining "Loki's Army" :oldrazz: LOL

Speaking of Thor, power, and Loki, I really enjoyed the Loki-Thor fights but really, shouldn't Thor have been SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than Loki and beat him down much more easily than he did? It seems like Loki held his own pretty well in all their fights so far, and that's not really that in sync with their supposed physical power levels. Although perhaps a reason could be Thor is holding back because he doesn't really want to kill his little bro. Come to think of it, Loki should have made more of a crater/line in the ground when Thor threw him into the mountain and he slid a ways. Unless, again, he was actually going a little easier on him than first thought. :huh:

[American Maid]

GASP!!! American Maid! I think that comment officially disqualifies you from joining "Loki's Army" :oldrazz: LOL

Sorry!! I couldn't resist the rhetorical flourish :csad: (I also don't think of any of the Asgardians as gods, in the deity sense, yet couldn't resist the reference) At least Loki didn't seem to be that much worse for the wear. Back on his feet after a day and a half. And one would think Hulk could do a better job of slamming someone. Here I heard he was supposed to be strong, enough to be competitive with Thor. . .

Speaking of Thor, power, and Loki, I really enjoyed the Loki-Thor fights but really, shouldn't Thor have been SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than Loki and beat him down much more easily than he did? It seems like Loki held his own pretty well in all their fights so far, and that's not really that in sync with their supposed physical power levels. Although perhaps a reason could be Thor is holding back because he doesn't really want to kill his little bro. Come to think of it, Loki should have made more of a crater/line in the ground when Thor threw him into the mountain and he slid a ways. Unless, again, he was actually going a little easier on him than first thought. :huh:

Well, the Marvel site says Thor is 7/7 on strength, and Loki is 5/7. So yeah, it should have been considerably more lopsided (for reference, Iron Man is 6/7 and Hulk is 7/7).

But to everyone's lament, Thor is not shown at his actual power level. Likely he is going easy on everyone, lol!

But yeah, a crater and/or trench would have been good to see. Maybe they really were hitting budget constraints.

[elizah72]

Sorry!! I couldn't resist the rhetorical flourish :csad: (I also don't think of any of the Asgardians as gods, in the deity sense, yet couldn't resist the reference) At least Loki didn't seem to be that much worse for the wear. Back on his feet after a day and a half. And one would think Hulk could do a better job of slamming someone. Here I heard he was supposed to be strong, enough to be competitive with Thor. . .

You'd have thought he'd have gone through the floor! I mean, Tony's got some strong flooring there! 8/10 at least! LOL

[BigThor]

Thanks for the information.

I wonder on how people would feel though if during their fight, we actually see something that's been kind of common to show within animated fights featuring heroes with capes and that is seeing someone grab Thor by his Cape and swing him around endlessly before throwing him at a far distance.

I'd perfer Kurse grabbing Thor by his body or one of his limbs whenever he throws him, the cape throw thing is a little too cartooney.

An opponent using Thor's cape against him should logically to stop wearing capes and no one wants that to happen. Otherwise it would just make him look stupid, "hey people use this against me while I'm fighting but I'm just gonna keep wearing it".

[jaqua99]

So with Kurse being physically stronger than Thor being a canon thing from the comics, no one here has a problem with Thor getting his ass kicked the first time (ala Bane vs Batman from TDKR/First Fight) when they encounter each other in the film?

Ya generally what BT said, assuming they fight twice. But as I see it, lightning shouldn't be TOO effective. And if Thor chooses to Brawl with him and grapple, like he did vs Hulk in the avengers, then in that case he should* get his ass kicked. Cause against Kurse he is completely physically outclassed

They'll probably do it something like that

[metaphysician]

I can't really imagine it mattering. If an opponent grabbed Thor's cape, it'd just rip the cape. Its not indestructible.

[BigThor]

I can't really imagine it mattering. If an opponent grabbed Thor's cape, it'd just rip the cape. Its not indestructible.

Yep, but it's made out of Asgardian material so it's probably alot more durable than it looks.

I agree with you though, someone strong enough to fight Thor should be able to rip the cape no problem.

[jaqua99]

Ya, lol I am not even thinking about the cape.

I just personally think that if Thor tries to brawl with Kurse like he did with Hulk, he should get the smack down layed on him

[BigThor]

Ya, lol I am not even thinking about the cape.

I just personally think that if Thor tries to brawl with Kurse like he did with Hulk, he should get the smack down layed on him

Well Thor's still faster and more skilled than Kurse, just like he's faster and more skilled than Hulk.

If he uses his fighting skills he can still put up a fight, being stronger than someone isn't everything.

[jaqua99]

Well Thor's still faster and more skilled than Kurse, just like he's faster and more skilled than Hulk.

If he uses his fighting skills he can still put up a fight, being stronger than someone isn't everything.

It certainly isn't. But the thing is, with Kurse being as strong as he is, that is how I would expect it to go in the movie. Wouldn't you agree? Yes, in a battle forum, he can use his skills and put up a fight. I totally agree.

But given the course of the movie, and how strong we are expecting Kurse to be, I think it would be safe to say that IF they decide to have Thor take on Kurse physically first, then Kurse will most likely have a decisive advantage of Thor. Probably beating him down Causing him to then resort to using his other powers. My appologies for not making my point clear. While like in the hulk fight, thor has his advantages over Kurse, if Kurse is as strong as he is suppose to be, it seems more likely that they will have Kurse beat thor down in a brawl, causing thor to use more of his powers.

On a side note BT, where ya been? Been a few days since you've been around here lol

[BigThor]

^ Yeah I know, but I hope they have Thor dodging and blocking Kurse's attacks before he's overwhelmed.

Oh and I've been kind of busy this week, I haven't had as much time to get on here lately.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Sorry for bringing up MoS guys, but this crater talk reminded me of a set pic I saw.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BNRkwR1btT4/Tl5OJnGAGAI/AAAAAAAAB98/7KEdUb_bHnc/s1600/618w_movies_man_of_steel_set.jpg

Not sure about the cause of it, hopefully a brawl. I really need TDW to have heavy-hitting and crater causing blows in it.

[BigThor]

Speaking of Thor, power, and Loki, I really enjoyed the Loki-Thor fights but really, shouldn't Thor have been SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than Loki and beat him down much more easily than he did? It seems like Loki held his own pretty well in all their fights so far, and that's not really that in sync with their supposed physical power levels. Although perhaps a reason could be Thor is holding back because he doesn't really want to kill his little bro. Come to think of it, Loki should have made more of a crater/line in the ground when Thor threw him into the mountain and he slid a ways. Unless, again, he was actually going a little easier on him than first thought. :huh:

Thor and Loki didn't really fight hand to hand, they were using weapons and they were just parrying each other's blows. There was hardly any punches or grappling in their fights which would've showcased their strength difference much more

Whenever melee and grappling took place Thor was the clear superior as evidenced by tossing/slamming Loki in both fights.

[Bruce_Begins]

In 2013 we have three Superhero movies that have heroes who have ability to Fly (Iron Man, Superman, Thor).

It would be interesting to see which movie has the best flying shots.

[xeno000]

In 2013 we have three Superhero movies that have heroes who have ability to Fly (Iron Man, Superman, Thor).

It would be interesting to see which movie has the best flying shots.


Iron Man will be the one to beat, if his past appearances are anything to go by. With the addition of jet packs on his back, he was able to pull some stunts that made all previous flying scenes look lame in comparison. Hovering, flying on his back while shooting targets behind him, pulling up and banking, Iron Man just kicked ass in The Avengers. ILM was at the peak of its powers and now Disney owns them, which means it should only get better.


Disney's acquisition of ILM should also help Thor's FX immensely, or at least I hope that it will. Now they won't have to let the work out to inferior graphics houses. Hopefully we can see some extended flying sequences, coupled with more use of lightning.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Iron Man will be the one to beat, if his past appearances are anything to go by. With the addition of jet packs on his back, he was able to pull some stunts that made all previous flying scenes look lame in comparison. Hovering, flying on his back while shooting targets behind him, pulling up and banking, Iron Man just kicked ass in The Avengers. ILM was at the peak of its powers and now Disney owns them, which means it should only get better.


Disney's acquisition of ILM should also help Thor's FX immensely, or at least I hope that it will. Now they won't have to let the work out to inferior graphics houses. Hopefully we can see some extended flying sequences, coupled with more use of lightning.

I wonder if ILM's doing the FX for TDW, since TDW was already filiming before Disney bought Lucasfilm.

[xeno000]

I wonder if ILM's doing the FX for TDW, since TDW was already filiming before Disney bought Lucasfilm.


I definitely hope so. Whichever houses did the CGI for Thor turned in some rather shoddy work in the scenes where it really mattered. While TDW won't have an Avengers-level budget, it should be allotted significantly more than Thor was simply due to box office receipts. That should have let them go a bit higher on the FX this time out.


Now that Disney has ILM in-house, Marvel should slap a saddle on them suckers and ride 'em til they drop. They're in the position to get some top-notch work at cost. Feige will undoubtedly take advantage of that resource.

[ThePowerCosmic]

I definitely hope so. Whichever houses did the CGI for Thor turned in some rather shoddy work in the scenes where it really mattered. While TDW won't have an Avengers-level budget, it should be allotted significantly more than Thor was simply due to box office receipts. That should have let them go a bit higher on the FX this time out.


Now that Disney has ILM in-house, Marvel should slap a saddle on them suckers and ride 'em til they drop. They're in the position to get some top-notch work at cost. Feige will undoubtedly take advantage of that resource.

I definitely agree! I especially like the sentence in bold. :woot:

[ericadawn16]

I don't mind some of the stuff shipped out to other places though, like WETA doing the damaged Helicarrier shots or another company coloring the actors' eyes blue in The Avengers. The main Marvel movies that need ILM are Spider-Man and Sony probably won't have that.

[xeno000]

I don't mind some of the stuff shipped out to other places though, like WETA doing the damaged Helicarrier shots or another company coloring the actors' eyes blue in The Avengers. The main Marvel movies that need ILM are Spider-Man and Sony probably won't have that.


Marvel will undoubtedly use multiple effects houses because the projects are too large and complex for one vendor to handle. Some shops specialize in certain areas, too. But ILM is the industry's premier VFX house and it would be criminal for Disney/Marvel not to make as much use as possible of their talents.


Sony has its own VFX shop that they will continue to use for Spider-Man. With its financial woes, Sony is probably trying to cut spending in every area of its movie budgets, including effects. They likely can't afford to pay for the best in the industry.

[BigThor]

Disney's acquisition of ILM should also help Thor's FX immensely, or at least I hope that it will. Now they won't have to let the work out to inferior graphics houses. Hopefully we can see some extended flying sequences, coupled with more use of lightning.

Agreed on all counts :up:

I sure hope this happens, because Thor's flying scenes so far makes me a little angry with Marvel.

[Vartha]

Man I just can't WAIT to see effects more often in the Marvel films. I just hope they don't get TOO carried away. (you can never get carried away with Thor effects :D)

[herolee10]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but I'd like to see Thor first throw his hammer at a barrage of enemies and then be shown fighting them with his hands as he's waiting for his hammer to come back. We never got a chance to really see that in the previous film. During that part, we just saw him throwing the hammer at his foes and the camera would focus on that instead of going back to Thor who was unarmed at that give moment.

I think it'd be badass if we could see Thor throw his hammer and be shown fending off several enemies with his hands before naturally getting back his hammer at precision timing and landing a blow at another opponent effortlessly.

[BigThor]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but I'd like to see Thor first throw his hammer at a barrage of enemies and then be shown fighting them with his hands as he's waiting for his hammer to come back. We never got a chance to really see that in the previous film. During that part, we just saw him throwing the hammer at his foes and the camera would focus on that instead of going back to Thor who was unarmed at that give moment.

I think it'd be badass if we could see Thor throw his hammer and be shown fending off several enemies with his hands before naturally getting back his hammer at precision timing and landing a blow at another opponent effortlessly.

Yeah and this is so much of a plain "common sense" idea that I'm suprised that we haven't seen it yet.

[violetspike123]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but I'd like to see Thor first throw his hammer at a barrage of enemies and then be shown fighting them with his hands as he's waiting for his hammer to come back. We never got a chance to really see that in the previous film. During that part, we just saw him throwing the hammer at his foes and the camera would focus on that instead of going back to Thor who was unarmed at that give moment.

I think it'd be badass if we could see Thor throw his hammer and be shown fending off several enemies with his hands before naturally getting back his hammer at precision timing and landing a blow at another opponent effortlessly.

That would be so :awesome:

[jaqua99]

agreed

I still want a battle cry.

Still do

[BigThor]

^ I could care less about stuff that trivial, unless you're talking about a "For Asgard"!

[jaqua99]

^ I could care less about stuff that trivial, unless you're talking about a "For Asgard"!




"for asgard!"

and some MCU form of

"have at thee!"

I would love that, Kurse makes a threat, and thor response with something like, "so be it, have at you monster!"

[BigThor]

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So how did you guys like Thor being able to teleport in the trailer?

[mkilban2]

If he is in fact teleporting, it's freaking AWESOME! but we still don't know exactly what's going on there, if he's just arriving or teleporting across the field of battle or what.. I'm hoping for teleporting.

Maybe somehow going from a battle on earth to a battle in asgard or another realm at the same times.

[Donar]

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So how did you guys like Thor being able to teleport in the trailer?

If he's indeed teleporting, with the use of Mjolnir, I find it awesome!

[itchyscratch]

Count me in. And if teleporting to different fights in different places doesn't allow Thor to actually win any of those battles then it will still come down to him having to choose which place, planet or person he wants to save most. Teleporting + Ongoing Angsty Dilemmas = Win!

[ciscostudent561]

if anything thor has a level of invulnerability not matched by anyone in any comic book movie.

[ctsketch]

I had a dream that we do see Ultron in an Avengers movie and Thor did is "I would have words with thee" line....

[BigThor]

If he is in fact teleporting, it's freaking AWESOME! but we still don't know exactly what's going on there, if he's just arriving or teleporting across the field of battle or what.. I'm hoping for teleporting.

Maybe somehow going from a battle on earth to a battle in asgard or another realm at the same times.

He teleported directly in front of Mjolnir's path, I don't see how it could be anything BUT teleporting across the battle field.

If he's indeed teleporting, with the use of Mjolnir, I find it awesome!

I'm not gonna lie, it looks like he's teleporting under his own power without Mjolnir in the trailer.

[Mjölnir]

He teleported directly in front of Mjolnir's path, I don't see how it could be anything BUT teleporting across the battle field.



I'm not gonna lie, it looks like he's teleporting under his own power without Mjolnir in the trailer.
I don't really dare hope that he's teleporting on his own yet since the visual effect looks very much like the Bifrost. It of course doesn't seem like a normal arrival on the Rainbow Bridge either, seeing how Mjolnir is already there.

[BigThor]

I don't really dare hope that he's teleporting on his own yet since the visual effect looks very much like the Bifrost. It of course doesn't seem like a normal arrival on the Rainbow Bridge either, seeing how Mjolnir is already there.

Imo the effects don't really look like the bifrost's effects, the lights are white instead orange. Also Mjolnir is already there as you've pointed out, I don't know why Mjolnir would be in a different dimension than Thor.

Not saying it's impossible, I just don't really see how that makes sense.

if anything thor has a level of invulnerability not matched by anyone in any comic book movie.

It was matched by Hulk's in The Avengers and surpassed by Superman's in pretty much any Superman film.

[ctsketch]

I don't really dare hope that he's teleporting on his own yet since the visual effect looks very much like the Bifrost. It of course doesn't seem like a normal arrival on the Rainbow Bridge either, seeing how Mjolnir is already there.

he could have left mjonir on the battlefield there?

[ctsketch]

Imo the effects don't really look like the bifrost's effects, the lights are white instead orange. Also Mjolnir is already there as you've pointed out, I don't know why Mjolnir would be in a different dimension than Thor.

Not saying it's impossible, I just don't really see how that makes sense.



It was matched by Hulk's in The Avengers and surpassed by Superman's in pretty much any Superman film.

the most durable item is either Loki or Hulk's pants

[BigThor]

the most durable item is either Loki or Hulk's pants

I'd say Thor was abit more durable than Loki, not by much but he was tougher in my opinion.

Now Hulk's pants on the other hand, that's an entirely different story. :woot:

[Mjölnir]

Imo the effects don't really look like the bifrost's effects, the lights are white instead orange. Also Mjolnir is already there as you've pointed out, I don't know why Mjolnir would be in a different dimension than Thor.

Not saying it's impossible, I just don't really see how that makes sense.
It's true that the Bifrost is pretty orange when Thor travels it with Jane in the trailer. It was whiter in the first Thor movie though so that's why I reasoned like I did, but the relevant comparison should of course be the one made within the same movie so there's good chance that Thor does something else (which I would approve of).

It was matched by Hulk's in The Avengers and surpassed by Superman's in pretty much any Superman film.
Well, technically (regardless of intent by the filmmakers) both Thor and Hulk fall from the same height and crash into the ground at the same speed, leaving Thor a bit dirty and Hulk knocked out. ;)

[BigThor]

It's true that the Bifrost is pretty orange when Thor travels it with Jane in the trailer. It was whiter in the first Thor movie though so that's why I reasoned like I did, but the relevant comparison should of course be the one made within the same movie so there's good chance that Thor does something else (which I would approve of).

You had a good point my man, I'm just trying to remain hopeful for new powers.

*crosses fingers*


Well, technically (regardless of intent by the filmmakers) both Thor and Hulk fall from the same height and crash into the ground at the same speed, leaving Thor a bit dirty and Hulk knocked out. ;)

Very true, so I might just have to go ahead and give goldilocks the slight edge,

[Mjölnir]

You had a good point my man, I'm just trying to remain hopeful for new powers.

*crosses fingers*
But at the same time you're right that it does look distinctly different so there's certainly good reason for us to remain hopeful. After all, they are trying to make him fight more godly and that would certainly be something that really transcends "hammer-throwing viking".

[BigThor]

But at the same time you're right that it does look distinctly different so there's certainly good reason for us to remain hopeful. After all, they are trying to make him fight more godly and that would certainly be something that really transcends "hammer-throwing viking".

True, so I'm gonna hope for the best which is the teleporting being part of his new power displays.

You're right it does fit with what they said about Thor fighting more godly, I just want him to do it atleast three times throughout the film. I say that because I know it's not gonna be something he can do all the time without strainl.

[Mjölnir]

True, so I'm gonna hope for the best which is the teleporting being part of his new power displays.

You're right it does fit with what they said about Thor fighting more godly, I just want him to do it atleast three times throughout the film. I say that because I know it's not gonna be something he can do all the time without strainl.
Yes, it would be a bit silly if they made him into Thorcrawler but as a means to move around a battlefield is cool.

[jaqua99]

Imo the effects don't really look like the bifrost's effects, the lights are white instead orange. Also Mjolnir is already there as you've pointed out, I don't know why Mjolnir would be in a different dimension than Thor.

Not saying it's impossible, I just don't really see how that makes sense.



It was matched by Hulk's in The Avengers and surpassed by Superman's in pretty much any Superman film.

idk, I think Thor was more durable than Hulk. He tanked a 17,000 foot fall. while a 30,000 foot fall KO'd Hulk. Yes. It KO'd him. idc that he was "awake when he fell" that doesn't mean the impact didn't KO him. banner wokeup right where hulk landed, you can see the impact crater..

also, the fact that in that final battle, they showed each avenger getting hurt at one point, then they showed thor, who wasn't only NOT hurt, but he kept fighting....I agree with whoever said it originally. In terms of durability...thor in the MCU so far is the standard to judge all others.

[BigThor]

Yes, it would be a bit silly if they made him into Thorcrawler but as a means to move around a battlefield is cool.

Yes it would be, but Thor was able to teleport via lightning in that Ultime Avengers cartoon so it's not like it's never happened. So Thor teleporting about 3 times throughout the movie would be okay to me, which would make it something he does in times of need.

idk, I think Thor was more durable than Hulk. He tanked a 17,000 foot fall. while a 30,000 foot fall KO'd Hulk. Yes. It KO'd him. idc that he was "awake when he fell" that doesn't mean the impact didn't KO him. banner wokeup right where hulk landed, you can see the impact crater..

also, the fact that in that final battle, they showed each avenger getting hurt at one point, then they showed thor, who wasn't only NOT hurt, but he kept fighting....I agree with whoever said it originally. In terms of durability...thor in the MCU so far is the standard to judge all others.

Thor and Hulk fell from about the same height, that jet didn't carry Hulk that far into the air before explode. I'd say both of them fell from around 30,000 feet or so.

[Bren]

Wouldn't matter at that height, no? Surely they'd have reached their terminal velocity by then anyway. The question is, which (Hulk or the glass cage) was more aerodynamic and therefore had the higher terminal velocity.

Ah. Close to Full Geek I went.

[Flemm]

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So how did you guys like Thor being able to teleport in the trailer?

Yeah... not really sure what to make of that shot in the trailer.

It looks like Bifrost, but the hammer seems to already be there. I dunno. Very intriguing.

[Bren]

Maybe he has learnt he can teleport into the path of the hammer. Like choosing to go to IT, instead of having it return to him. I dunno...

[Flemm]

Maybe he has learnt he can teleport into the path of the hammer. I dunno...

Something funky is definitely happening there. Sif seems surprised.

I wonder if he throws the hammer, leaves, then returns later and catches the hammer.

LoL.

Could be pretty awesome :woot:

[BigThor]

Maybe he has learnt he can teleport into the path of the hammer. Like choosing to go to IT, instead of having it return to him. I dunno...

This is a very good theory and I would actually be cool if that was the case.