The Avengers: News and Speculation - Part 27A sub-se - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 50

[Poni_Boy]

http://i.imgur.com/TSCAB.jpg

Anyone notice how Thor seems to have some kind of armoured leggings or boots? Could just be the blur of the photo, but it definitely seems to be reflecting light.

Perhaps Thor sort of summons it with his armour like he does with his arms? Or perhaps not.

Either way, cool photo. Cheers Irish :P

33 alien invaders defeated +2000

7 allies made +3000

Armored Boots unlocked

Proceed to Boss Battle

[Raiden]

just watched the trailers back to back. The american one is better i'd say, much better editing and flows alot smoother, but the Japanese one has better visuals.

Just the fact that the Japanese trailer has the first known footage of Helicarrier and Quinjet wins it for me. :word: I've been waiting to see how amazing they would look and I'm not disappointed, but it will be even better to see them on the big screen.

[Lady Marion]

33 alien invaders defeated +2000

7 allies made +3000

Armored Boots unlocked

Proceed to Boss Battle

Hehehe, funny.


@Wolvieboy: I see what you mean but the pic is so blurred that I can't say what it is. But armoured boots would look much cooler.

[Iceman]

The helicarrier should really be 1st named on the credits & all the posters after this showing. I wouldn't mind "Avengers: Helicarrier & his Amazing Friends".

[steintym]

That shot of the Hellicarrier really made that trailer for me (the shot of Potts was nice, too). I'm a liitle surprised they gave the carrier shot away, though.

[Wolvieboy17]

Yeah, it's a blurry pic but those boots/knee guards still look pretty shiny to me and they seem to match the belt.

[Gamma Burst]

33 alien invaders defeated +2000

7 allies made +3000

Armored Boots unlocked

Proceed to Boss Battle

Good stuff!:D

[Praxis222]

My problem is that it's so overused now, pretty much every single superhero movie has a love interest storyline going on, it'd be nice to divert from the norm and explore the character in other ways besides the love interest.

Not to knock your point, I see what you're saying...but in fairness, MOST movies have a love story angle to them. That's not to say that it has to be "romantic" but to ignore love in a film (especially where love is, from a root level, generally what goes into making a hero a "hero") just to make room for more testosterone can easily remove some of the heart from the story.

And don't mistake my meaning of "love makes a hero". I'm not necessarily talking about romantic love. But for a hero to have compassion and to care they have to have a deep ability to love. Even the darker characters have to have this, otherwise they wouldn't give a damn what happens to the world.

And a lonely hero, even though it's part of the nature of the business, is more likely to feel disconnected from the rest of humanity. The farther removed from the world the less it seems worth saving.

[Scarlettess]

Just the fact that the Japanese trailer has the first known footage of Helicarrier and Quinjet wins it for me. :word: I've been waiting to see how amazing they would look and I'm not disappointed, but it will be even better to see them on the big screen.

Yup Yup that's kind of what I meant with better visuals :oldrazz: Helicarrier especially, it's beautiful!

Also I was thinking, I might try and edit the footage from the trailers, in continuiety of what i think the movie will go like. (purely from what i've seen thus far, as I havn't read any of the spoilers such as that book).

[batman44]

The Avengers logo in Japanese looks kinda cool.

[Kirmit]

Not to knock your point, I see what you're saying...but in fairness, MOST movies have a love story angle to them. That's not to say that it has to be "romantic" but to ignore love in a film (especially where love is, from a root level, generally what goes into making a hero a "hero") just to make room for more testosterone can easily remove some of the heart from the story.

And don't mistake my meaning of "love makes a hero". I'm not necessarily talking about romantic love. But for a hero to have compassion and to care they have to have a deep ability to love. Even the darker characters have to have this, otherwise they wouldn't give a damn what happens to the world.

And a lonely hero, even though it's part of the nature of the business, is more likely to feel disconnected from the rest of humanity. The farther removed from the world the less it seems worth saving.

I agree a hero should show compassion but again it'd be nice to explore other areas of the hero's character without having to resort to a love interest. In a way it's lazy writing that they have to use a love interest to show the hero is caring and has heart, there are other ways to show it, most of the time though, the easy route is taken.

[Khemik@L]

Here's the Japanese trailer, if it hasn't been posted it here yet:

WARNING: Don't watch if you don't want to be spoiled further, or want to keep Helicarrier and Quinjet scenes as a surprise.


BLxmQ__629c

If the score in the movie is anything like the first score in this trailer I would be very Happy :woot:

[FABSN13]

I guess I won´t watch any clips or something else. But it´ll be very difficult :doh:

[Donut]

I am going to be uploading to Youtube a shortish The Avengers Epic Video using footage from all of the trailers & Japanese one

[Praxis222]

I agree a hero should show compassion but again it'd be nice to explore other areas of the hero's character without having to resort to a love interest. In a way it's lazy writing that they have to use a love interest to show the hero is caring and has heart, there are other ways to show it, most of the time though, the easy route is taken.

Absolutely agree with that 100% (I've actually argued the same point to friends of mine lol) but I guess I just still feel that omitting it ENTIRELY just because other movies have done it doesn't work for me either. There's always a happy middle ground (or a way of taking all the grounds) and I don't think it needs to be in every superhero flick, but sometimes it's a good way of balancing out the character. It can always be done in a manner that is't heavy handed.

Having said all that, the Avengers won't really be crossing into that territory. Being that it's a "war" film, essentially, means that like most films of that nature, the love story will be referenced (IF referenced) as an exterior presence rather than something directly tied to the story at hand, which is exactly the way it should be.

[Wolvieboy17]

A love interest isn't to show a character is caring, usually it's to make the stakes higher for them when the proverbial hits the fan. Gives them a personal investment more than just "Oh, I have to save people". It is a perfectly valid way of adding tension to final battles, making the hero more human and less infallible and also showing a potential future for them outside of the way they are currently living.

If anything, not having a love interest is the easy, lazy way out with writing. If a love interest feels tacked on and lazy, it's been written badly. That's all there is to it.

[craigdbfan]

A love interest isn't to show a character is caring, usually it's to make the stakes higher for them when the proverbial hits the fan. Gives them a personal investment more than just "Oh, I have to save people". It is a perfectly valid way of adding tension to final battles, making the hero more human and less infallible and also showing a potential future for them outside of the way they are currently living.

If anything, not having a love interest is the easy, lazy way out with writing. If a love interest feels tacked on and lazy, it's been written badly. That's all there is to it.

Well said. I agree completely. :up:

[Khemik@L]

I am going to be uploading to Youtube a shortish The Avengers Epic Video using footage from all of the trailers & Japanese one

Aight I'll check it out

[Rock Sexton]

Cmon guys ..... you're talking about not one .... not two .... but three or four "love interests"

This is not a rom-com like "Valentine's Day" or some other ensemble. The dynamic with this film is completely different and would borderline corny if you're forcing that many love stories into it. These films already have their own individual tent poles to explore that area.

[Alexei Belyakov]

I'll say it again, having Loki hold Jane prisoner during the invasion woulda made for some great emotional drama. I don't understand why the studio didn't throw her into the mix, specially now that Portman is such a draw to the GA.

[Wolvieboy17]

They don't need to force a love story into this film for everyone, they've already been established. All it needs to be is a shot of the love interest in the final battle, like we see with Pepper pots... Cap looking at a photo of Peggy, Bruce dialing Betty then hanging up, Thor talking to Selvig, Natasha and Clint reminiscing of their past relationship.... This is all easy 'eve of a battle' type stuff to throw in there.

[Kirmit]

A love interest isn't to show a character is caring, usually it's to make the stakes higher for them when the proverbial hits the fan. Gives them a personal investment more than just "Oh, I have to save people". It is a perfectly valid way of adding tension to final battles, making the hero more human and less infallible and also showing a potential future for them outside of the way they are currently living.

If anything, not having a love interest is the easy, lazy way out with writing. If a love interest feels tacked on and lazy, it's been written badly. That's all there is to it.

I agree having them there does create more tension and gives the hero a personal investment but it doesn't have to be a love interest, it could be family or friends, show how important those relationships are instead of 99% of the time taking the expected route of a love interested.

[marvel_freshman]

https://p.twimg.com/AoDPEalCMAAobar.jpg:large

[Rock Sexton]

They don't need to force a love story into this film for everyone, they've already been established. All it needs to be is a shot of the love interest in the final battle, like we see with Pepper pots... Cap looking at a photo of Peggy, Bruce dialing Betty then hanging up, Thor talking to Selvig, Natasha and Clint reminiscing of their past relationship.... This is all easy 'eve of a battle' type stuff to throw in there.

Completely and utterly disagree. That sounds forced as hell.

[Rock Sexton]

Man, too bad Cap doesn't look that good.

https://p.twimg.com/AoDPEalCMAAobar.jpg:large

[eddy]

I'll say it again, having Loki hold Jane prisoner during the invasion woulda made for some great emotional drama. I don't understand why the studio didn't throw her into the mix, specially now that Portman is such a draw to the GA.

Cause she was pregnant and just had her baby when they were filming:whatever:

[terry78]

So what does it look like they're fighting in the most recent trailer? Do those creatures resemble anything from the books other than skrull or kree?

[Rock Sexton]

I'll say it again, having Loki hold Jane prisoner during the invasion woulda made for some great emotional drama. I don't understand why the studio didn't throw her into the mix, specially now that Portman is such a draw to the GA.

Budget?

EDIT: Like the poster said above she was also pregnant dude.

[eddy]

https://p.twimg.com/AoDPEalCMAAobar.jpg:large

GOOD GOD. Thats beautiful. Why couldn't the one-sheet/POSTER be this good?

[eddy]

I think its funny that Black Widow is facing in a different direction from everyone else just so we can get a cheesecake shot of her ass.

[Iceman]

Cmon guys ..... you're talking about not one .... not two .... but three or four "love interests"

This is not a rom-com like "Valentine's Day" or some other ensemble. The dynamic with this film is completely different and would borderline corny if you're forcing that many love stories into it. These films already have their own individual tent poles to explore that area.We don't need 'stories' but references, acknowledgements & cameos leave room for what might be without wasting plot time & also give added validity to the stories within each of those tentpoles. One of the reasons the MU is so strong is because of all the secondary links between characters as long as this is showcased in a non-intrusive way.

[Dr Lee]

Where can i get that canvas????

[Kirmit]

I think its funny that Black Widow is facing in a different direction from everyone else just so we can get a cheesecake shot of her ass.

The Hulk is in the same pose.........incase you wanna check him out :woot:.

[Alexei Belyakov]

They coulda shot Portman's coverage after the birth. All her scenes coulda been condensed to Loki's "Throne Room" plus the abduction site. Marlon Brando & Robert Duvall's characters in Apocalypse Now were basically extended cameos. They were on-set for a tiny period of time & look at what we got. For me, it comes down to the studio not wanting to pay Portman. But her presence in the film in a hostage capacity woulda made it a hell of alot more intense, plus would alleviate the unresolved storyline between Jane & Thor.

[craigdbfan]

That canvas is absolutely beautiful. :up:

[mara]

GOOD GOD. Thats beautiful. Why couldn't the one-sheet/POSTER be this good?

Want!!! :woot:

[marvel_freshman]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)
http://66.imagebam.com/download/39j830qCHAQxvsyO9x83Wg/17996/179956736/AVS-12-03-15-3.jpg

[sabetoonth]

https://p.twimg.com/AoDPEalCMAAobar.jpg:large

Do want

[Rock Sexton]

They coulda shot Portman's coverage after the birth. All her scenes coulda been condensed to Loki's "Throne Room" plus the abduction site. Marlon Brando & Robert Duvall's characters in Apocalypse Now were basically extended cameos. They were on-set for a tiny period of time & look at what we got. For me, it comes down to the studio not wanting to pay Portman. But her presence in the film in a hostage capacity woulda made it a hell of alot more intense, plus would alleviate the unresolved storyline between Jane & Thor.

How do you know you're not getting that situation in Thor 2? Which would then make doing it in Avengers stupid because you'd be recycling.

Again, they have individual tentpoles to explore these areas. It's crazy to think how hung up a lot are getting on it ..... but then again you like to pick at this movie so I'm not surprised you're among them.

[Rock Sexton]

We don't need 'stories' but references, acknowledgements & cameos leave room for what might be without wasting plot time & also give added validity to the stories within each of those tentpoles. One of the reasons the MU is so strong is because of all the secondary links between characters as long as this is showcased in a non-intrusive way.

References are fine ..... I'm not arguing against those.

[Iceman]

https://p.twimg.com/AoDPEalCMAAobar.jpg:largeGreat! I don't know why on a lot of Avengers artwork Cap doesn't look particularly like Evans while Thor, Black Widow & Hawkeye always do.

[Wolvieboy17]

I agree having them there does create more tension and gives the hero a personal investment but it doesn't have to be a love interest, it could be family or friends, show how important those relationships are instead of 99% of the time taking the expected route of a love interested.

That's just not as powerful as a love interest but yes, you're right, it can work... and HAS worked... Bruce Waynes family is killed, Matt Murdochs father is killed, Peter Parker is motivated by his love for his Aunt May and his need to protect her, Tony Stark has Rhodey...

However, friends and Family only covers the sentimental attachment, love interests can very strongly represent a future. A paradise or safe haven for a hero trapped in an endless battle or cycle of destructive behaviour, ala Rachel Dawes, Mary Jane, Pepper Potts.

It can be done badly, like in Green Lantern or something, but as I said, that depends on the writing, not the idea of the love interest as a narrative tool.

For the most part, the Marvel love interest have been done pretty well. Each one feels unique to each character and serves a different narrative purpose. Pepper represents growing up and taking responsibility for Tony, Betty represents Bruce's human side that he fears he has lost with the Hulk, as well as his guilt for hurting him, Jane represents Thor's humble nature, giving him a strong bond to Midgard as well as teaching him to appreciate non-Asgardian life forms and Peggy helps Cap feel like the great leader he becomes as well as adding to the tragedy of him being frozen in ice.

I don't see any problems with those love interests and they don't feel cliched to me at all.

[Dr Lee]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)
http://66.imagebam.com/download/39j830qCHAQxvsyO9x83Wg/17996/179956736/AVS-12-03-15-3.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4458/notworthyv.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/notworthyv.jpg/)

[Silvermoon]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)
http://66.imagebam.com/download/39j830qCHAQxvsyO9x83Wg/17996/179956736/AVS-12-03-15-3.jpg
Woohoo!!! And once again, I change my desktop background! *lol* Actually, I think I'm going to have it cycle through the UHQ textless poster + banner :woot:

Thank you muchly freshman for tracking these down :hrt:

[rashad]

https://p.twimg.com/AoDPEalCMAAobar.jpg:large

Better than the official poster art.

[Wolvieboy17]

Completely and utterly disagree. That sounds forced as hell.

Well yes, if they implemented it in the basic and rudimentary way I just described it, all in one sentence, but it doesn't have to be that way.

The best and easiest way I could see that working is the way they developed Pyro's arc in X-Men 2. It was basically just one shot of him looking at Bobby Drakes family photos and we got SO much character information. Tie that together with his 'attack the cops' scene by using the same musical theme and bang, you've got yourself some easy, non-screen time chewing character development. It didn't take away from the film at all but instead made a basic, supporting character, someone real and interesting.

[Whiskey Tango]

Robert Downey Jr is the most popular star in the movie. Iron Man is the most established and marketable character. RDJ has been a bigger star in Asia than in the US for decades. The marketing team is charge of getting asses in seats, NOT the plot and characterization of the film itself. It's been confirmed ad nauseum that Iron Man is not the central character in the film. Can we let this rest now? It's getting uber repetitive and unnecessary.

Save your breath, it's like talking to a wall. That guy's sole purpose around here is to get a rise out of people.

[mara]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)
http://66.imagebam.com/download/39j830qCHAQxvsyO9x83Wg/17996/179956736/AVS-12-03-15-3.jpg

Niiiice! Thank you much!

[Gamma Goliath]

that poster makes me want the art of Avengers book really badly now.

[Kirmit]

That's just not as powerful as a love interest but yes, you're right, it can work... and HAS worked... Bruce Waynes family is killed, Matt Murdochs father is killed, Peter Parker is motivated by his love for his Aunt May and his need to protect her, Tony Stark has Rhodey...

However, friends and Family only covers the sentimental attachment, love interests can very strongly represent a future. A paradise or safe haven for a hero trapped in an endless battle or cycle of destructive behaviour, ala Rachel Dawes, Mary Jane, Pepper Potts.

It can be done badly, like in Green Lantern or something, but as I said, that depends on the writing, not the idea of the love interest as a narrative tool.

For the most part, the Marvel love interest have been done pretty well. Each one feels unique to each character and serves a different narrative purpose. Pepper represents growing up and taking responsibility for Tony, Betty represents Bruce's human side that he fears he has lost with the Hulk, as well as his guilt for hurting him, Jane represents Thor's humble nature, giving him a strong bond to Midgard as well as teaching him to appreciate non-Asgardian life forms and Peggy helps Cap feel like the great leader he becomes as well as adding to the tragedy of him being frozen in ice.

I don't see any problems with those love interests and they don't feel cliched to me at all.

I agree that Marvel have for the most part done well with the love interests, I'm just hoping they don't turn into the Raimi Spiderman films, all three films MJ is kidnapped and Spidey's focal point for the final battle. Basically I'm just hoping sequels to the Marvel films don't have as much focus on the love interests, they're understandable in the hero's first film but after that different areas of their character should be explored IMO with love interests taking a sideline.

[mara]

that poster makes me want the art of Avengers book really badly now.

Yes indeed! I can't wait for that!

[Donut]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)
http://66.imagebam.com/download/39j830qCHAQxvsyO9x83Wg/17996/179956736/AVS-12-03-15-3.jpg

Amazing thanks

[Iceman]

That's just not as powerful as a love interest but yes, you're right, it can work... and HAS worked... Bruce Waynes family is killed, Matt Murdochs father is killed, Peter Parker is motivated by his love for his Aunt May and his need to protect her, Tony Stark has Rhodey...

However, friends and Family only covers the sentimental attachment, love interests can very strongly represent a future. A paradise or safe haven for a hero trapped in an endless battle or cycle of destructive behaviour, ala Rachel Dawes, Mary Jane, Pepper Potts.

It can be done badly, like in Green Lantern or something, but as I said, that depends on the writing, not the idea of the love interest as a narrative tool.

For the most part, the Marvel love interest have been done pretty well. Each one feels unique to each character and serves a different narrative purpose. Pepper represents growing up and taking responsibility for Tony, Betty represents Bruce's human side that he fears he has lost with the Hulk, as well as his guilt for hurting him, Jane represents Thor's humble nature, giving him a strong bond to Midgard as well as teaching him to appreciate non-Asgardian life forms and Peggy helps Cap feel like the great leader he becomes as well as adding to the tragedy of him being frozen in ice.

I don't see any problems with those love interests and they don't feel cliched to me at all.Jane, Peggy, Betty I think were all handled well. Pepper seems more than a love interest as she's very relevant even without all that. MJ & Rachel Dawes I don't think were done that well. I mean the stakes for Batman with Rachel Dawes were highest and I felt almost nothing (maybe due to different actresses in 2 films). Also re MJ, it's silly when the love interest gets captured by the villain every time!

[mara]

We don't need 'stories' but references, acknowledgements & cameos leave room for what might be without wasting plot time & also give added validity to the stories within each of those tentpoles. One of the reasons the MU is so strong is because of all the secondary links between characters as long as this is showcased in a non-intrusive way.

I agree, this movie is just too big, I really don't think there'll be much room in it to address these issues. Cameos and mentions are prob all we're going to get. And I'm cool with that. :yay:

[Poni_Boy]

They coulda shot Portman's coverage after the birth. All her scenes coulda been condensed to Loki's "Throne Room" plus the abduction site. Marlon Brando & Robert Duvall's characters in Apocalypse Now were basically extended cameos. They were on-set for a tiny period of time & look at what we got. For me, it comes down to the studio not wanting to pay Portman. But her presence in the film in a hostage capacity woulda made it a hell of alot more intense, plus would alleviate the unresolved storyline between Jane & Thor.

Or maybe... just maybe... she didn't have a role in the script for the film. She's contracted to more than one MS movie. If she's not in this (which you can't claim to know until you see the film/footage is released - i.e. Paltrow) it's most likely story related.

[sabetoonth]

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/Levi_Steinbock/avengersbanner.png
My try to make the canvas or whatever that image was made with less perspective to it

If that makes sense

[Poni_Boy]

Save your breath, it's like talking to a wall. That guy's sole purpose around here is to get a rise out of people.

Yeah, I figured as much. It's just fun letting contrarians know their lack of common sense is noticed :yay:

[bonzob2000]

Ugh, Alexei's latest suggestion is that Loki should kidnap Portman? Even if she was available, how about we don't go to the oldest cliche in the book?

Seriously, you are advocating for the hero's girl to be kidnapped? That was getting old by Die Hard. Hell, it was getting old when the bad guys in silent movies tied the girl to the train tracks. For someone who's seemingly cine-literate, you sure do have some awful taste sometimes.

Thankfully Whedon is far too smart (not to mention too much of a feminist) to give us yet another BS damsel in distress scenario.

[Lady Marion]

Finally found what many have been asking for! The Banner in UHQ and textless (6800x3000)
http://66.imagebam.com/download/39j830qCHAQxvsyO9x83Wg/17996/179956736/AVS-12-03-15-3.jpg

marvel freshman, you're the best!

[Scarlettess]

I agree Jane being kidnapped would be a terrible idea, BUT if Loki used her as a tool to intergrate his plan and get back at Thor (especially after the battle scene with them, where Loki DID threaten that he would go see her) somehow then that I could buy. Anywho its unlikely that would happen, but a mention of her would be a nice touch.

[Wolvieboy17]

Also, the problem in the Raimi Spider-Man movies wasn't the fact that it HAD a love interest, it was the fact they they never developed it. It seemed like Peter Parker was basically in a struggle to prove his love to MJ for every single film. By the 3rd one, they should have been in a happy and stable relationship... The film had two villains and Parker battling himself, it didn't NEED a trouble relationship to add conflict.

[mara]

I agree Jane being kidnapped would be a terrible idea, BUT if Loki used her as a tool to intergrate his plan and get back at Thor (especially after the battle scene with them, where Loki DID threaten that he would go see her) somehow then that I could buy. Anywho its unlikely that would happen, but a mention of her would be a nice touch.

Agreed. You may have just described Thor 2 though. :woot:

[Scarlettess]

Haha! Actually come to think about it, if Loki gets punished or whatever in Thor 2 and is unable to conduct anything himself, then using someone like Jane would be perfect in terms of conflict, but that's for the Thor thread/boards.

[Praxis222]

You know, I think what makes a "love interest" compelling is when the character isn't JUST a love interest. That angle should be a bonus of sorts, important in some cases sure. The character has to be more than just love food to service the main character. They need to feel like they're starring in their own movie concurrently to the primary focus. Give them an interesting arc of their own (which Joss excels at) and the audience will be just as invested in this person as the hero is.

Edit: In All honesty, a main character should NEVER be there just to service another character, the writer should care enough to make them interesting too. (although, Alfred and Fox in The Nolan films seem to be that way and they still come off well lol)

[Donut]

This is my The Avengers Epic Video. It also includes footage from the Japanese trailer. FYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcvVvy3iCdk

[jaqua99]

The helicarrier should really be 1st named on the credits & all the posters after this showing. I wouldn't mind "Avengers: Helicarrier & his Amazing Friends".

Literally made me LOL

[HUMANIMAL]

What did you see ? Was it spoilerish ? :huh:
well the helicarrier and the scene with the quinjet...but overall not so much...besides that i couldnt resist watching it... it made me addicted...i can't stop watching it over and over again:-) may is my year of birth and this movie is a hell of a gift :word:

[mara]

This is my The Avengers Epic Video. It also includes footage from the Japanese trailer. FYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcvVvy3iCdk

Good job! thanks!

[bunk]

This is my The Avengers Epic Video. It also includes footage from the Japanese trailer. FYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcvVvy3iCdk

This is awesome.

[jaqua99]

https://p.twimg.com/AoDPEalCMAAobar.jpg:large

To me, this looks fantastic

[BobbyCorwin88]

I don't think Loki taking Jane hostage is too cliche, if nothing else because he said he'd go after her in his fight with Thor. We all know he's thinking about it. When it comes to Portman's involvement in this film I really just think it came down to scheduling and probably her wanting to be a mom for a little bit. Not a huge loss really, but like I said, she'll get a mention. And that whole arc will probably be used in Thor 2.

And not to burst any bubbles, but why is the hellicarrier working everyone up so much? It's not exactly the thing that floors me. I feel like I've seen tons of flying battleships throughout cinematic history. Nothing new. The Quinjet is probably cooler honestly.

[jaqua99]

Also, the problem in the Raimi Spider-Man movies wasn't the fact that it HAD a love interest, it was the fact they they never developed it. It seemed like Peter Parker was basically in a struggle to prove his love to MJ for every single film. By the 3rd one, they should have been in a happy and stable relationship... The film had two villains and Parker battling himself, it didn't NEED a trouble relationship to add conflict.

My problem with those movies is that the love story was way to big of a player in the films. I felt like it was 50/50 spiderman/spiderman - mary jane

id rather see it like 70-30, it was way too much. Thats why I think that the reboot will be good. Oh yeah, they got it right about him being with Gwen Stacy first -_-

[mara]

I don't think Loki taking Jane hostage is too cliche, if nothing else because he said he'd go after her in his fight with Thor. We all know he's thinking about it. When it comes to Portman's involvement in this film I really just think it came down to scheduling and probably her wanting to be a mom for a little bit. Not a huge loss really, but like I said, she'll get a mention. And that whole arc will probably be used in Thor 2.

And not to burst any bubbles, but why is the hellicarrier working everyone up so much? It's not exactly the thing that floors me. I feel like I've seen tons of flying battleships throughout cinematic history. Nothing new. The Quinjet is probably cooler honestly.

Maybe he snatches her right at the beginning of avengers, and when Thor leaves earth at the end with Loki, its off to search for Jane. Which really would lead to Thor 2. :woot:

And it doesn't even have to happen onscreen, could be a "Where's Jane?"......."She missing..." kinda thing.

[Lady Marion]

This is my The Avengers Epic Video. It also includes footage from the Japanese trailer. FYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcvVvy3iCdk

Great job! I like the music.

[Donut]

Thanks for the comments everybody

[The Caped Knight]

https://p.twimg.com/AoDPEalCMAAobar.jpg:large

Oh yeah :woot:

[Endeavor]

This is my The Avengers Epic Video. It also includes footage from the Japanese trailer. FYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcvVvy3iCdk

Excellent!
What's the music piece called?

[Donut]

Excellent!
What's the music piece called?

Fate Of The World - Immediate Music (the ending one)

[Raiden]

I don't think Loki taking Jane hostage is too cliche, if nothing else because he said he'd go after her in his fight with Thor. We all know he's thinking about it. When it comes to Portman's involvement in this film I really just think it came down to scheduling and probably her wanting to be a mom for a little bit. Not a huge loss really, but like I said, she'll get a mention. And that whole arc will probably be used in Thor 2.

I don't like the damsel-in-distress idea, because I feel that we have seen it happened way too often in the Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy. MJ always get kidnapped by GG/Ork/Venom or whatever, and Parker had to save her. I also don't think they can fit a subplot of Loki kidnapping Jane to get back at Thor, and on top of that Natalie Portman was recovering from her pregnancy so I doubt she would've been available. I'm glad Whedon didn't go this route.

And not to burst any bubbles, but why is the hellicarrier working everyone up so much? It's not exactly the thing that floors me. I feel like I've seen tons of flying battleships throughout cinematic history. Nothing new. The Quinjet is probably cooler honestly.

Helicarrier is amazing because for The Avengers, we are treated to a world not unlike our own, despite having all those superheroes all over the place. So the wonder that we experience seeing Iron Man, Thor, and Capt. America do their thing is the same watching a huge super carrier literally propell itself out of the water; it's awesome.

[samsnee]

And I thought people on here were nitpickers.

http://io9.com/5893693/is-hawkeye-from-the-avengers-the-worlds-worst-archer

[Lady Marion]

I don't like the damsel-in-distress idea, because I feel that we have seen it happened way too often in the Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy. MJ always get kidnapped by GG/Ork/Venom or whatever, and Parker had to save her. I also don't think they can fit a subplot of Loki kidnapping Jane to get back at Thor, and on top of that Natalie Portman was recovering from her pregnancy so I doubt she would've been available. I'm glad Whedon didn't go this route.



Exactly. Jane seems never to be a damsel in distress to me and I don't need this in the Avengers movie. Thor will have enough drama with his brother.

[GoldGoblin]

Is War Machine gonna be the cameo Marvel character?

[Raiden]

Exactly. Jane seems never to be a damsel in distress to me and I don't need this in the Avengers movie. Thor will have enough drama with his brother.

For peopel who can't wait to see Jane Foster, Thor 2 is scheduled to be released in 2013 so they'll get their fix real soon. It is a better arrangement as well because they'll be able to truly develop the relationship between Thor and Jane in the sequel, instead of using Jane as a plot device in TA just so Loki can peeve off his older brother some more, as if Thor doesn't have enough reason to go after Loki and his plan to destroy the citizens of Earth already.

[protocida]

About the final battles, I'd guess that, besides Thor VS. Loki, we'll also see.

Captain America fighting the General.

Either Iron Man or Hulk (maybe both?) taking down the second Leviathan.

Black Widow and Hawkeye fighting mooks.

[Poni_Boy]

And I thought people on here were nitpickers.

http://io9.com/5893693/is-hawkeye-from-the-avengers-the-worlds-worst-archer

That is absolutely the most retarded bit of non-news I've seen about The Avengers yet. I'd gladly read a completely made up scoop about Galatcus and Thanos teaming up to tag team Widow as the after credits scene before I read another thing like that. Jesus.

I wonder if Mr. Archery Guru over yonder has ever gotten off the lanes and practiced tactical bow firing with the military. Form is the first thing we learn and the last thing we apply on live fire ranges (can't speak for combat since I never carried a bow downtown).

[Iceman]

This is my The Avengers Epic Video. It also includes footage from the Japanese trailer. FYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcvVvy3iCdkExcellent work! Really strong right out of the gate.

[itchyscratch]

https://p.twimg.com/AoDPEalCMAAobar.jpg:large

Wow, that might just be my favourite image so far. Thanks MS!

[Splat]

Just watched the 2 trailers, the SB spot, and the Japanease trailer on my PS3. I highly recommend it.

[mara]

Ok i'm sorry if it's already been mentioned, but when I made my own screen caps I caught a good one of pepper and I swear that looks like Liv Tyler behind her and also that dude, Betty's boyfriend from the movie. Can't remember his name....

[Poni_Boy]

Ok i'm sorry if it's already been mentioned, but when I made my own screen caps I caught a good one of pepper and I swear that looks like Liv Tyler behind her and also that dude, Betty's boyfriend from the movie. Can't remember his name....

No, that's just some young dude. Ty Burrell was Dr. Sampson in TIH. And the screencap you took didn't show the woman who was standing's face so I don't know why anyone would think that's Liv Tyler

[Kirmit]

Ok i'm sorry if it's already been mentioned, but when I made my own screen caps I caught a good one of pepper and I swear that looks like Liv Tyler behind her and also that dude, Betty's boyfriend from the movie. Can't remember his name....

Just had a look, nah it's just some randoms. Also the guy was Doc Samson :).

[protocida]

^ Leonard Samson, played by Ty Burrell.

I don't think it's them.

[mara]

No, that's just some young dude. Ty Burrell was Dr. Sampson in TIH

Ah ok, I can dig that, but i still swear thats Betty! lol Its a good screencap. :woot:

[SuperSAINT]

That image above is fantastic.

[Poni_Boy]

Ah ok, I can dig that, but i still swear thats Betty! lol Its a good screencap. :woot:

The image that doesn't show the girl's head. Right. Of course that's Betty.

[mara]

No, that's just some young dude. Ty Burrell was Dr. Sampson in TIH. And the screencap you took didn't show the woman who was standing's face so I don't know why anyone would think that's Liv Tyler

But I did catch her face. It's not totally clear, but it's a pretty good catch. Only part of her it didn't catch was her forehead. :woot:

[Poni_Boy]

But I did catch her face. It's not totally clear, but it's a pretty good catch. Only part of her it didn't catch was her forehead. :woot:


Only screencap I see in this thread is this:

http://i.imgur.com/MqTvY.jpg

[mara]

Only screencap I see in this thread is this:

http://i.imgur.com/MqTvY.jpg

If I could post it I totally would. I caught her face from the eyebrows down, lol.

[Scarlettess]

^ I don't think that's mara's screencap but IrishAvenger's. Anyway. Moving On. :P

tomorow it'll be exactly 30 DAYS till the movie comes out over here. Funny thing is though, Odeon and Vue still don't have their advance tickets up.

[mara]

^ I don't think that's mara's screencap but IrishAvenger's. Anyway. Moving On. :P

tomorow it'll be exactly 30 DAYS till the movie comes out over here. Funny thing is though, Odeon and Vue still don't have their advance tickets up.

No, that's not mine. If anyone could advise me as to how I can get this screencap up...Those Tyler lips are unmistakable. lol

[protocida]

It's not Betty. They're pretty much avoiding direct references to The Incredible Hulk. It'd make no sense for her to be there.

[sabetoonth]

put the image URL in between [img*] [/img*] but without the *

[Scarlettess]

No, that's not mine. If anyone could advise me as to how I can get this screencap up...Those Tyler lips are unmistakable. lol

You need to use an image hosting website such as imgur or photobucket.com. upload the image to the site, then copy and paste the [URL] tag code.

edit: thats if its from your computer, if its from a website just do what sabetoonth said.

[itchyscratch]

tomorow it'll be exactly 30 DAYS till the movie comes out over here. Funny thing is though, Odeon and Vue still don't have their advance tickets up.

Wow, you get the movie mid April? Which country are you in?

[Scarlettess]

in the UK, it's not out until the 26th April over here, but there having an early bird pre screening at my local Odeon Imax on the 16th, or so it says on their website anyway which I verty much hope to go to :woot:

[Thortress]

Been far away from here....and I am back, I have no strength and you know why? Just to say that on the new HQ poster if you look close there is like a blood stain on Thor's right hand.... :doh: My mind told me that was important somehow.

[Poni_Boy]

in the UK, it's not out until the 26th April over here, but there having an early bird pre screening at my local Odeon Imax on the 16th, or so it says on their website anyway which I verty much hope to go to :woot:

Disney's planning A LOT of advance screenings in the US so plenty of fans will get the chance to see it a week or more early. Just gotta pay attention to local listings for those "wait in line" thingies

[mara]

You need to use an image hosting website such as imgur or photobucket.com. upload the image to the site, then copy and paste the [URL] tag code.

edit: thats if its from your computer, if its from a website just do what sabetoonth said.


Ok thanks. I'm clearly new to all this. :yay:

[marvel_freshman]

A couple small things stumbed upon recently
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6503/aociafxcmaaqkz5.jpghttp://img571.imageshack.us/img571/3892/aoch6tciaa1wyg.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4817/an8zlgtceaegslr.jpghttp://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9399/anyoj5cciaer3ab.jpghttp://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2884/anp6kgmcmaaifnx.jpg


http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8338/kinopoiskrutheavengers1.jpg

[Raiden]

Those soda cans look great. Too bad I don't drink Dr. Pepper.

[HUMANIMAL]

great after all my work erasing the text out of the japanese poster you found it in a higher resolution.....thanks:-) guess i have some more work to do.....

[craigdbfan]

Zero love for Hulk in Japan. :(

He's completely silhouetted out of the poster and is literally only in one shot in their trailer. :waa:

[sabetoonth]

you can make out some details if you look close

[Poni_Boy]

Zero love for Hulk in Japan. :(

He's completely silhouetted out of the poster and is literally only in one shot in their trailer. :waa:

He was in at least four distinct shots in the trailer. Probably the only ones that were properly rendered. Hulk is the only 100% CG character in the film. I doubt they want to release crappy footage of the one character everyone is going to scrutinize.

[bonzob2000]

How does that make sense when there are several shots of hulk that we know are fully rendered from the US trailer that was released before this one? The Japanese trailer cut the Iron Man catch, they cut him swatting ships out of the sky, they cut him out of the spinny hero shot at the end. I think they cut the shot of him chasing Black Widow as well? Those are all fantastic money shots. It does seem intentional to me. Did the hulk movies bomb super hard in Japan or something?

[craigdbfan]

He was in at least four distinct shots in the trailer.You're right I overlooked the middle shots of him.

Again it's no big deal but he definitely isn't as big of a selling point in this trailer as he has been in the American ones but that's to be expected. Different countries mean different selling points.

[Poni_Boy]

You're right I overlooked the middle shots of him.

Again it's no big deal but he definitely isn't as big of a selling point in this trailer as he has been in the American ones but that's to be expected. Different countries mean different selling points.

I believe there were international marketing issues during the promotion of both Hulk movies. Specifically in Asia. Looks like they aren't partial to flicks where the monster is supposed to me a good guy. Neither made much money in that region.

[BigThor]

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/Levi_Steinbock/avengersbanner.png
My try to make the canvas or whatever that image was made with less perspective to it

If that makes sense

Yep and it worked, this poster looks incredible and I would LOVE to get a live action shot of the heroes posing just like this.

It's in my top 5 favorite group shots for this film so far, I just wish we had a live action poster that was this epic. :woot:

[mara]

Ok sorry for the delay. Here it is, hope this works

http://s1073.photobucket.com/albums/w398/maralotusflower/?action=view&current=32.jpg

Like I said it's not perfectly clear since the camera is focused on pepper buuuut that's my story and I'm sticking to it! LOL! :cwink:

[jonnywhc]

in the UK, it's not out until the 26th April over here, but there having an early bird pre screening at my local Odeon Imax on the 16th, or so it says on their website anyway which I verty much hope to go to :woot:

Hi! Was wondering if you could tell me how you found out about this? Iv been checking Odeons page everyday for months lol. Would love it if they play early showings on the 16th for Manchester IMAX. Are these sorts of tickets normally got through Odeon themselves or somewer else? Thanks!

[protocida]

Yeah... It's not Betty.

[Poni_Boy]

Yeah... It's not Betty.

Seconded

[Iceman]

I hope this does well in Asia even if they're not too keen on Hulk.

[mara]

Seconded

Yeah... It's not Betty.

:csad: lol. ok. ah well speculation is half the fun! hehe

[Asgard]

I want that Hulk can.
Ok sorry for the delay. Here it is, hope this works

http://s1073.photobucket.com/albums/w398/maralotusflower/?action=view&current=32.jpg

Like I said it's not perfectly clear since the camera is focused on pepper buuuut that's my story and I'm sticking to it! LOL! :cwink:
Instead of using photobucket you could just use something like tinypic.com (http://tinypic.com) to host your pics. Much less hassle.

[mara]

I want that Hulk can.

Instead of using photobucket you could just use something like tinypic.com (http://tinypic.com) to host your pics. Much less hassle.

ah, ok thanks!

[Raiden]

I believe there were international marketing issues during the promotion of both Hulk movies. Specifically in Asia. Looks like they aren't partial to flicks where the monster is supposed to me a good guy. Neither made much money in that region.

Yeah, it's probably for cultural & marketing reasons for Hulk's lack of spotlights in the Japanese trailer. I also noticed that Cap did not get alot of scenes in the same trailer as well. On the other hand, I think Thor got quite a bit, same with Iron Man.

[marvel_freshman]

The official Japanese Avengers site has been updated with the trailer. Slightly better quality, and easier to scroll.
http://www.marvel-japan.com/movies/avengers/index.html

[Alexei Belyakov]

Ugh, Alexei's latest suggestion is that Loki should kidnap Portman? Even if she was available, how about we don't go to the oldest cliche in the book?

Seriously, you are advocating for the hero's girl to be kidnapped? That was getting old by Die Hard. Hell, it was getting old when the bad guys in silent movies tied the girl to the train tracks. For someone who's seemingly cine-literate, you sure do have some awful taste sometimes.

Thankfully Whedon is far too smart (not to mention too much of a feminist) to give us yet another BS damsel in distress scenario.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Joss Whedon is "too intelligent" for Jane Foster to get kidnapped? Oh brother.

Some of these defenses are just absolute bollocks.

What else is too cliche? The hero killing the villain? The hero sacrificing himself to save others?

In this genre EVERYTHING is an archetype.

Its ALL been done before.

The idea is to do it again but differently and effectively.

Jane Foster kidnapped by Loki as a further torment for Thor is a great way to go. They didn't do it most probably out of budgetary concerns and not this Whedon is "too much of a genius feminist" garbage.

[Poni_Boy]

Yeah, it's probably for cultural & marketing reasons for Hulk's lack of spotlights in the Japanese trailer. I also noticed that Cap did not get alot of scenes in the same trailer as well. On the other hand, I think Thor got quite a bit, same with Iron Man.

Well, aside from the previous films Robert Downey Jr is really popular in Asia (particularly during his singing + Ally McBeal days) and Thor is a well known mythological character. Neither of which play patriotic characters who fought against Japan during WWII :oldrazz:

[Poni_Boy]

Jane Foster kidnapped by Loki as a further torment for Thor is a great way to go. They didn't do it most probably out of budgetary concerns and not this Whedon is "too much of a genius feminist" garbage.

They probably didn't do it because it sounds like a dumb cliche and they have a much better reason for Thor to get involved aside from saving the quintessential girl.

[Raiden]

Jane Foster kidnapped by Loki as a further torment for Thor is a great way to go. They didn't do it most probably out of budgetary concerns and not this Whedon is "too much of a genius feminist" garbage.

I don't see why they have to make this even more personal than it already did for Thor, because seeing his younger brother destroying a world like Earth is more than enough for him to stomach. Kidnapping Jane really does nothing other than putting extra spotlight on Thor in this ensemble movie, as if having the main villain straight from Thor's movie isn't enough. They can keep the plot about kidnapping Jane in Thor 2, but not for The Avengers.

[bonzob2000]

Archetype and cliche are not the same thing.

Hero's girlfriend being kidnapped is a massive cliche, no matter how it's executed. And yes, I do think it's a remnant of a less progressive era when women in film were only defined through their men, only there to be objectified and then rescued. Not that I'd expect any understanding of that from the man who loves to post Kristen Bell butt shots.

It's an incredibly stupid idea for about a billion reasons and your BS assertion of budgetary concerns is asinine, like much of what you say.

And I'm done engaging the troll for the day.

[Alexei Belyakov]

They probably didn't do it because it sounds like a dumb cliche and they have a much better reason for Thor to get involved aside from saving the quintessential girl.

You're starting an argument you will never be able to fully support.

In the cinematic medium, everything has already been done. In fact, it was done before films even came to be (through literature).

To call the rescue of a hero's love a "cliche" in an action/adventure picture is like saying heroes shouldn't be heroic :cwink:

Its an ancient archetype that will NEVER get old, hence the reason why movies like Refn's DRIVE - despite a story that we've heard a billion times before, are still able to be labeled the very best of modern cinema.

I just finished watching Agniezska Holland's IN DARKNESS. The whole movie takes place during Nazi-occupied Poland & is basically an art-house answer to Schindler's List.

Do I think its cliche for another film to be made about a man who saves Jews and endangers his life in the process? Absolutely not. In Darkness is a brilliant film and while the story is just another hero's journey deep down, its the presentation, style and heart of the piece that make it so much more than just "Another Schindler's List".

So yeah, be careful what you label "cliche" because THAT might be a cliche.

Jane being held captive during a global invasion would ADD to the drama of this film, not subtract.

[bonzob2000]

Now you don't understand the difference between a film's subject and a cliche plot device? My God.

[Alexei Belyakov]

Archetype and cliche are not the same thing.

Hero's girlfriend being kidnapped is a massive cliche, no matter how it's executed. And yes, I do think it's a remnant of a less progressive era when women in film were only defined through their men, only there to be objectified and then rescued. Not that I'd expect any understanding of that from the man who loves to post Kristen Bell butt shots.

This is absolutely idiotic considering Bell is perfectly okay walking around in her underwear while on camera.

It's an incredibly stupid idea for about a billion reasons and your BS assertion of budgetary concerns is asinine, like much of what you say.

And I'm done engaging the troll for the day.

"Troll Troll Troll" = Blah, Blah, Blah.

[Poni_Boy]

You're starting an argument you will never be able to fully support.

In the cinematic medium, everything has already been done. In fact, it was done before films even came to be (through literature).

To call the rescue of a hero's love a "cliche" in an action/adventure picture is like saying heroes shouldn't be heroic :cwink:

Its an ancient archetype that will NEVER get old, hence the reason why movies like Refn's DRIVE - despite a story that we've heard a billion times before, are still able to be labeled the very best of modern cinema.

I just finished watching Agniezska Holland's IN DARKNESS. The whole movie takes place during Nazi-occupied Poland & is basically an art-house answer to Schindler's List.

Do I think its cliche for another film to be made about a man who saves Jews and endangers his life in the process? Absolutely not. In Darkness is a brilliant film and while the story is just another hero's journey deep down, its the presentation, style and heart of the piece that make it so much more than just "Another Schindler's List".

So yeah, be careful what you label "cliche" because THAT might be a cliche.

Jane being held captive during a global invasion would ADD to the drama of this film, not subtract.

http://www.nenah.org/Gifs/Feelings/oh-my-god.gif


You love to hear yourself talk, huh?

[Poni_Boy]

Archetype and cliche are not the same thing.

Circle gets the square

[Alexei Belyakov]

http://www.nenah.org/Gifs/Feelings/oh-my-god.gif


You love to hear yourself talk, huh?

And now I know you're too young and immature to have a real debate. I apologize for attempting a rational discussion with you :yay:

[bonzob2000]

Oh man. Alexei calling other people immature... I just... can't. Irony just folded in on itself.

[Poni_Boy]

And now I know you're too young and immature to have a real debate. I apologize for attempting a rational discussion with you :yay:

You can't debate someone who refuses to see any side of a discussion except their own. You'll argue this point regardless of anyone's valid opposition because it's your point and by god you have to be right.

So, no, do not engage me in any of your arguments. They are not debates.

[Suzanne78]

I have to say I'm very glad that Whedon and Marvel are avoiding the damsel-in-distress trope with Jane and Thor. Not saying it doesn't make sense, but there is far too much going on in the movie already.

This week has been a great week to be an Avengers fan!

[sabetoonth]

Oh man. Alexei calling other people immature... I just... can't. Irony just folded in on itself.

You can't debate someone who refuses to see any side of a discussion except their own. You'll argue this point regardless of anyone's valid opposition because it's your point and by god you have to be right.

So, no, do not engage me in any of your arguments. They are not debates.
Gentlemen...
Archetype and cliche are not the same thing.

Hero's girlfriend being kidnapped is a massive cliche, no matter how it's executed. And yes, I do think it's a remnant of a less progressive era when women in film were only defined through their men, only there to be objectified and then rescued. Not that I'd expect any understanding of that from the man who loves to post Kristen Bell butt shots.

It's an incredibly stupid idea for about a billion reasons and your BS assertion of budgetary concerns is asinine, like much of what you say.

And I'm done engaging the troll for the day.

One of you already had the right idea

[Alexei Belyakov]

You can't debate someone who refuses to see any side of a discussion except their own. You'll argue this point regardless of anyone's valid opposition because it's your point and by god you have to be right.

So, no, do not engage me in any of your arguments. They are not debates.

Translation = "I can't further support my argument so I turn to stupid gifs. and hide behind this [tremendous] cop-out:

You can't debate someone who refuses to see any side of a discussion except their own. You'll argue this point regardless of anyone's valid opposition because it's your point and by god you have to be right.

Pat yourself on the back, kid.

[BobbyCorwin88]

I think Jane being there would add to the tension, if done well, but I'm guessing the stakes will already be high enough that it just wouldn't be necessary. Although, I can see it working a lot better if the whole team had Loki beaten and at the last second he reveals he's been holding Jane captive. Something to that effect would be pretty nice. Like Loki had a contingency plan all along.

Me, I'm perfectly fine with the love interests getting honorable mentions. I'm not entirely concerned with them at the moment.

[Alexei Belyakov]

I think Jane being there would add to the tension, if done well

Thank you.

Me, I'm perfectly fine with the love interests getting honorable mentions. I'm not entirely concerned with them at the moment.

Ditto, as long as I hear the name "Jane Foster" during the film, I'll be satisfied.

[Dr Lee]

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/SDLRob/GIFs/80078377-Im-ou.gif

[BobbyCorwin88]

Ditto, as long as I hear the name "Jane Foster" during the film, I'll be satisfied.
I honestly think my main problem with her being in this film is simply because I had no emotional investment in her and Thor's relationship in the Thor movie. It never made sense to me then and it certainly doesn't now. I hope that can all be fixed in the Thor sequels but I don't think Avengers is the venue to repair what went wrong in Thor, you know?

[Alexei Belyakov]

I honestly think my main problem with her being in this film is simply because I had no emotional investment in her and Thor's relationship in the Thor movie. It never made sense to me then and it certainly doesn't now. I hope that can all be fixed in the Thor sequels but I don't think Avengers is the venue to repair what went wrong in Thor, you know?

I agree, though I was modestly happy with the route their love affair took.

"Starcrossed lovers" :woot:

Simple and effective.

Plus, if they had gone with the Loki kidnapping her route in this one, it would have cemented their relationship with his rescue. Oh well, let's see what we get in THOR 2 if not this exactly.

[mara]

"where's Jane?"......"She's missing." That would add tension, and Portman wouldn't even have to appear. Honorable mention and leads into the next film. *shrug* There has to be a mention of some kind....Doesn't there?

[HUMANIMAL]

too much spare time infront of the computer is what really went wrong lol

[BobbyCorwin88]

"where's Jane?"......"She's missing." That would add tension, and Portman wouldn't even have to appear. Honorable mention and leads into the next film. *shrug* There has to be a mention of some kind....Doesn't there?
Honestly? That might not be a terrible way to set up Thor 2.

We know from set photos that Loki and Thor go back to Asgard together. Maybe when they get back and Loki is about to suffer punishment he reveals his contingency plan of abducting Jane and withholding her location from Thor. I wouldn't hate that at all.

[Alexei Belyakov]

"where's Jane?"......"She's missing." That would add tension, and Portman wouldn't even have to appear. Honorable mention and leads into the next film. *shrug* There has to be a mention of some kind....Doesn't there?

There must be.

[Alexei Belyakov]

Honestly? That might not be a terrible way to set up Thor 2.

We know from set photos that Loki and Thor go back to Asgard together. Maybe when they get back and Loki is about to suffer punishment he reveals his contingency plan of abducting Jane and withholding her location from Thor. I wouldn't hate that at all.

Me neither.

[BobbyCorwin88]

Edit

[Poni_Boy]

"where's Jane?"......"She's missing." That would add tension, and Portman wouldn't even have to appear. Honorable mention and leads into the next film. *shrug* There has to be a mention of some kind....Doesn't there?

No, there doesn't have to. Not unless it benefits the story in some way. Just a throwaway line that doesn't fit the context of the film so a handful of fans can go "thank you!" sounds completely counterproductive to an already swamped film. If it fits well I'm sure the filmmakers will include a nod to Jane; if it doesn't I can only hope they don't force the issue as it's unnecessary. Jane is the least necessary love interest of all the Marvel solo films.

[ThePowerCosmic]

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g84/maizepaw/GIF%20Spam/11073285.gif

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/SDLRob/GIFs/80078377-Im-ou.gif

[mara]

Honestly? That might not be a terrible way to set up Thor 2.

We know from set photos that Loki and Thor go back to Asgard together. Maybe when they get back and Loki is about to suffer punishment he reveals his contingency plan of abducting Jane and withholding her location from Thor. I wouldn't hate that at all.

My thoughts exactly.

[BobbyCorwin88]

No, there doesn't have to. Not unless it benefits the story in some way. Just a throwaway line that doesn't fit the context of the film so a handful of fans can go "thank you!" sounds completely counterproductive to an already swamped film. If it fits well I'm sure the filmmakers will include a nod to Jane; if it doesn't I can only hope they don't force the issue as it's unnecessary. Jane is the least necessary love interest of all the Marvel solo films.
I mean, I couldn't agree more, but to make her relevant again I think setting up an abduction near the end of the film would be kind of nice. It might give us an opportunity to hear form Thor WHY exactly he cares for her so much. But yeah, it wouldn't be appropriate during the course of the film. It would have to be near the end or after the credits.

[mara]

No, there doesn't have to. Not unless it benefits the story in some way. Just a throwaway line that doesn't fit the context of the film so a handful of fans can go "thank you!" sounds completely counterproductive to an already swamped film. If it fits well I'm sure the filmmakers will include a nod to Jane; if it doesn't I can only hope they don't force the issue as it's unnecessary. Jane is the least necessary love interest of all the Marvel solo films.

A nod is fine with me too.

[PowerPacked]

Alexei, have you considered that maybe, just maybe, Natalie might be busy with something else?

Like, oh, I don't know, raising her newborn child? You know, that thing that parents do?

And that maybe that she doesn't necessarily need to be in this story because, god forbid, it might NOT have something to do with her?

[PowerPacked]

And don't start with that 'Marvel pissed off Natalie Portman' or 'They can't afford her.' One, they have a budget of 220+ million. They could afford it, and those rumors were never confirmed by any source at all.

[Poni_Boy]

I mean, I couldn't agree more, but to make her relevant again I think setting up an abduction near the end of the film would be kind of nice. It might give us an opportunity to hear form Thor WHY exactly he cares for her so much. But yeah, it wouldn't be appropriate during the course of the film. It would have to be near the end or after the credits.

Like I've said before, hoping for a random abduction to lead into another movie when we don't even know A) how Tho/Loki's relationship will be at the end of this film and B) if Portman even plans to return, makes no sense. There isn't enough information to even begin to guess what would benefit Thor 2's plot, much less how Jane Foster would fit into it. Not only is Jane the weakest link of the bunch when it comes to Marvel's significant others, but she's also the only one with a pinch hitter

http://www.liveforfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JaimieAlexander3-232x300.jpg

[AndrewGilkison]

You're starting an argument you will never be able to fully support.

In the cinematic medium, everything has already been done. In fact, it was done before films even came to be (through literature).

To call the rescue of a hero's love a "cliche" in an action/adventure picture is like saying heroes shouldn't be heroic :cwink:

Its an ancient archetype that will NEVER get old, hence the reason why movies like Refn's DRIVE - despite a story that we've heard a billion times before, are still able to be labeled the very best of modern cinema.

I just finished watching Agniezska Holland's IN DARKNESS. The whole movie takes place during Nazi-occupied Poland & is basically an art-house answer to Schindler's List.

Do I think its cliche for another film to be made about a man who saves Jews and endangers his life in the process? Absolutely not. In Darkness is a brilliant film and while the story is just another hero's journey deep down, its the presentation, style and heart of the piece that make it so much more than just "Another Schindler's List".

So yeah, be careful what you label "cliche" because THAT might be a cliche.

Jane being held captive during a global invasion would ADD to the drama of this film, not subtract.

Dude, honestly... if getting kidnapped by Loki is the best idea you can come up with for a Jane Foster role in the Avengers, then maybe she doesn't really belong in the movie in the first place, ya know?

Maybe she isn't NEEDED! Did that ever cross your mind? I mean, why is it absolutely vital that she be in it? Why is she absolutely necessary?

I mean, I love Natalie Portman, but whatever she could possibly do in The Avengers, she could do just as good or better in Thor 2 because she will likely have more screen time there than she would in an Avengers movie, because we won't have other superheroes sharing screen time with Thor and her.

I mean, I wouldn’t mind if she was in The Avengers, but not having her there isn’t Marvel Studios’ and Kevin Feige’s latest crime against humanity that you want to get on your soap box and rant about, like every other decision they make that you don’t agree with and act melodramatic about.

So please stop being so melodramatic about a MOVIE because at the end of the day, that is all it is. A movie based on a comic book. It’s not a heinous act of cruelty because the top star in the movie gets top billing on the poster (which is standard practice in Hollywood) or because Jane Foster is not in The Avengers just so she can get kidnapped by the villain, because that is one plot development we don’t really need in The Avengers movie because I am sure there will be a ton of them in there already.

[mara]

I mean, I couldn't agree more, but to make her relevant again I think setting up an abduction near the end of the film would be kind of nice. It might give us an opportunity to hear form Thor WHY exactly he cares for her so much. But yeah, it wouldn't be appropriate during the course of the film. It would have to be near the end or after the credits.


It just feels like there has to be something, be it setting up the next film with an "honorable mention" or just a simple "nod".....something.....

[BigThor]

No, there doesn't have to. Not unless it benefits the story in some way. Just a throwaway line that doesn't fit the context of the film so a handful of fans can go "thank you!" sounds completely counterproductive to an already swamped film. If it fits well I'm sure the filmmakers will include a nod to Jane; if it doesn't I can only hope they don't force the issue as it's unnecessary. Jane is the least necessary love interest of all the Marvel solo films.

I agree, but alot of people seem to be obsessed with her for some reason.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Jane needs to find a nice human guy... She's hogging Sif's man.

[BigThor]

Jane needs to find a nice human guy... She's hogging Sif's man.

Like I've said before, hoping for a random abduction to lead into another movie when we don't even know A) how Tho/Loki's relationship will be at the end of this film and B) if Portman even plans to return, makes no sense. There isn't enough information to even begin to guess what would benefit Thor 2's plot, much less how Jane Foster would fit into it. Not only is Jane the weakest link of the bunch when it comes to Marvel's significant others, but she's also the only one with a pinch hitter
http://www.liveforfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JaimieAlexander3-232x300.jpg

Agreed, but hopefully this doesn't turn into another "Jane vs Sif" debate because those can get quite annoying.

[wobbly]

Assuming Thor meets with Selvig it should be taken for granted they will talk about Jane.

[mara]

I agree, but alot of people seem to be obsessed with her for some reason.

To me it just feels unfinished? Not sure how to explain....... Honestly it's really not that important, I was just throwing my 2 cents in. To me this movie is a dream come true, my fav hero's on the big screen! Lots of action and a good plot! That's really all I want!

[mara]

With lot's of Thor of course, being he's my absolute favorite! hehe

[protocida]

Loki views humans as insects, and believes in his advantage due to the Tesseract and his army. He wouldn't miss time capturing Jane in order to taunt his brother when invading Earth and threatning innocents lives already gets the necessary rise out of Thor.

Basically, she's insignificant to Loki.

At best, I expect a ''Where's Jane?'' from Thor, and a ''she's safe'' from Fury.

At best.

[BobbyCorwin88]

Like I've said before, hoping for a random abduction to lead into another movie when we don't even know A) how Tho/Loki's relationship will be at the end of this film and B) if Portman even plans to return, makes no sense. There isn't enough information to even begin to guess what would benefit Thor 2's plot, much less how Jane Foster would fit into it. Not only is Jane the weakest link of the bunch when it comes to Marvel's significant others, but she's also the only one with a pinch hitter

http://www.liveforfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JaimieAlexander3-232x300.jpg
Well we do have some information. Portman is contractually obligated to continue with the franchise and we know that Hiddleston is too. So if Loki is in another Thor film (which they really should be giving him a break) then I can only assume he's there to be menacing.

I'm going off the fact that during their fight in the Thor movie, Loki threatens to go after Jane right in Thor's face. Who's to say he won't make good on that threat? He certainly seems scorned. I personally think Portman's talent was completely wasted in Thor and her character was dumbed down to nothing. I get the whole "star-crossed lovers" thing, but boy was it pulled off bad. If she's still on for this franchise, then she definitely needs to be reinvigorated. Her being under threat from Loki (not necessarily kidnapped) would be a good way for me to want to care about her and also care about Thor saving her. I can already see a scenario where Loki could make Thor choose between Sif and Jane through some big scheme he hatches. That would actually be pretty cool.
It just feels like there has to be something, be it setting up the next film with an "honorable mention" or just a simple "nod".....something.....
That's why I'm happy I'm not a writer!

[BigThor]

To me it just feels unfinished? Not sure how to explain....... Honestly it's really not that important, I was just throwing my 2 cents in. To me this movie is a dream come true, my fav hero's on the big screen! Lots of action and a good plot! That's really all I want!

With lot's of Thor of course, being he's my absolute favorite! hehe

I felt it succeeded at what it was mean to be, but it could definately be expanded upon in THOR II if Marvel really wants to go that route.

Yeah it's no secret that Thor's my favorite either and I can't wait to see each hero get a chance to show what makes them awesome in this film.

[mara]

I felt it succeeded at what it was mean to be, but it could definately be expanded upon in THOR II if Marvel really wants to that route.

Yeah it's no secret that Thor's my favorite either and I can't wait to see each one of the heroes get a chance to show what makes them awesome.

Right on! :word:

[protocida]

Loki threatned Jane because he wanted to angry Thor into fighting him. As long as his brother is angry, Loki is satisfied. And nearly enslaving the entire human race is enough to get Thor royaly pissed off.

[BigThor]

Loki views humans as insects, and believes in his advantage due to the Tesseract and his army. He wouldn't miss time capturing Jane in order to taunt his brother when invading Earth and threatning innocents lives already gets the necessary rise out of Thor.

Basically, she's insignificant to Loki.

At best, I expect a ''Where's Jane?'' from Thor, and a ''she's safe'' from Fury.

At best.

Yep and that would be enough for me. :cool:

[Rock Sexton]

I agree, but alot of people seem to be obsessed with her for some reason.

The obsession over this issue is freakin' unhealthy. My God. We're about to witness one of those most kick-ass, if not THE most kickass CBM in history and guys like AB are whining about this Jane issue.

Some seriously need a time-out until the premiere. Back away, get some fresh air ..... stop worrying about every frickin' little detail of this film.

[Matt Mortem]

Assuming Thor meets with Selvig it should be taken for granted they will talk about Jane.

This. With Selvig and Thor in the movie there will be some reference to Jane. I'm almost certain of it.

[Poni_Boy]

Well we do have some information. Portman is contractually obligated to continue with the franchise and we know that Hiddleston is too. So if Loki is in another Thor film (which they really should be giving him a break) then I can only assume he's there to be menacing.

I'm going off the fact that during their fight in the Thor movie, Loki threatens to go after Jane right in Thor's face. Who's to say he won't make good on that threat? He certainly seems scorned. I personally think Portman's talent was completely wasted in Thor and her character was dumbed down to nothing. I get the whole "star-crossed lovers" thing, but boy was it pulled off bad. If she's still on for this franchise, then she definitely needs to be reinvigorated. Her being under threat from Loki (not necessarily kidnapped) would be a good way for me to want to care about her and also care about Thor saving her. I can already see a scenario where Loki could make Thor choose between Sif and Jane through some big scheme he hatches. That would actually be pretty cool.

Yep, be we all know how Marvel is with their contractual obligations. If keeping Portman doesn't fit into their needs/wants then they won't. I highly doubt she cares about continuing her role of Jane unless the studio really wants her.

And, yes, he did threaten Thor with that line but now we have a whole new (and intricate) story in The Avengers. There's no telling if Loki's was an empty threat to piss Thor off, something he plans to make due on at a later time or if now his grudge has extended to all of humanity and Jane is insignificant. Hell, we don't even know who's side Loki's is on at the end of Avengers. Till we know all that we don't know if Jane is even a piece of the future puzzle that is Thor 2.

I felt it succeeded at what it was mean to be, but it could definately be expanded upon in THOR II if Marvel really wants to that route.

Yep. Exactly. They were smitten with each other. Nothing more than that was presented in Thor. IF Marvel chooses to expand on their story they can. If they choose not to for whatever reason, they can as well and it won't take away from what was originally presented. It was Thor's first crush, not ultimate and undying love. At this point it can go either way.

[Rock Sexton]

Yep. Exactly. They were smitten with each other. Nothing more than that was presented in Thor. IF Marvel chooses to expand on their story they can. If they choose not to for whatever reason, they can as well and it won't take away from what was originally presented. It was Thor's first crush, not ultimate and undying love. At this point it can go either way.

Just wait .... you're about to get lectured on the unspoken ways of "love" ... LOL .... trust me, it's coming.

[Rock Sexton]

This. With Selvig and Thor in the movie there will be some reference to Jane. I'm almost certain of it.

Would make the most sense.

[mara]

Yep and that would be enough for me. :cool:

That little nod would be enough for me as well.....

[Splat]

I wonder if we'll get any kind of backstory on the origin of the cube. Like if the Asgardians made it or if they got it from some other race like they did with the Casket from the frost giants.

[mara]

I wonder if we'll get any kind of backstory on the origin of the cube. Like if the Asgardians made it or if they got it from some other race like they did with the Casket from the frost giants.

Odin stole it! lol jk

I've wondered the same, be it in CA all we got was a "Jewel of Odins vault" and an "unlimited power" in the after credit scene.

[BigThor]

The obsession over this issue is freakin' unhealthy. My God. We're about to witness one of those most kick-ass, if not THE most kickass CBM in history and guys like AB are whining about this Jane issue.

Some seriously need a time-out until the premiere. Back away, get some fresh air ..... stop worrying about every frickin' little detail of this film.

Yep, whenever Jane gets brought up my eyes go "O_O" and it's not because she wasn't important in THOR it's just that she's not important to THIS film.

This is "The Avengers not THOR 2", so Loki being the villain in this film is enough to cement Thor's importance to the plot.

[Mysteryman]

Like I've said before, hoping for a random abduction to lead into another movie when we don't even know A) how Tho/Loki's relationship will be at the end of this film and B) if Portman even plans to return, makes no sense. There isn't enough information to even begin to guess what would benefit Thor 2's plot, much less how Jane Foster would fit into it. Not only is Jane the weakest link of the bunch when it comes to Marvel's significant others, but she's also the only one with a pinch hitter

http://www.liveforfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/JaimieAlexander3-232x300.jpg
Well the only Pinch hitter we have seen on screen anyway .
Given Tony's Prolific Romantic History ,
There are quite a few possibilties to replace Pepper .
And for Cap, there is always Sharon Carter, waiting in the wings .

[steintym]

The obsession over this issue is freakin' unhealthy. My God. We're about to witness one of those most kick-ass, if not THE most kickass CBM in history and guys like AB are whining about this Jane issue.

Some seriously need a time-out until the premiere. Back away, get some fresh air ..... stop worrying about every frickin' little detail of this film.

I couldn't agree more. There's going to be so much going on in this epic flick, I couldn't care less if Jane is in this. Would it be cool? Sure. Would a mention be nice? Sure. Are there other ways to build tension and get Thor's full attention? Hell yeah (like his brother trying to capture/kill millions of innocents).

[T"Challa]

Have these been posted yet? Marvel Latino made some mini character trailers..nothing new though

tQsISq-QhrE
f10dWX62R38
0vxiqQsTuY8

[SpideyFan866]

I think the oerfect way to include all of the heroes's significant others is that after the battle/war is over, have Coulson walk up to the team and have him tell them they have their (Thor, Hulk, Tony, and maybe Cap) girlfirends on the phone for them.

They can then have their girls yell at them for the dangerous things they did in the midst of battle and complaining about how worried they were.

[protocida]

The Tesseract is ''the fire of the Gods''.

[mara]

Yep, whenever Jane gets brought up my eyes go "O_O" and it's not because she wasn't important in THOR it's just that she's not important to THIS film.

This is "The Avengers not THOR 2", so Loki being the villain in this film is enough to cement Thor's importance to the plot.

And yet preserving continuity between the movies is important, part of their success. I'm grateful for it. :woot: So who knows what direction we will go, I'm looking forward to it all. More Thor please! lol

[protocida]

Yeah, they air those ''mini-trailers'' all the time on DisneyXD Brazil. Especially when the cartoon is on.

[terry78]

Does Jane even know he's back on Earth in this flick yet? It would be nice if we get like one cameo or whatever at the end of her finding out or something.

[Still A ThorFan]

I'm glad this is coming out next month over seas first. By May 5th there will be a good copy online I can watch, thus avoiding watching the movie with annoying people and over paying for a movie ticket.

[Whiskey Tango]

It's weird how every time Alexei can't find anyone to agree with him Bobby shows up and does just that. Convenient is the word that comes to mind.

[Rock Sexton]

And yet preserving continuity between the movies is important, part of their success. I'm grateful for it. :woot: So who knows what direction we will go, I'm looking forward to it all. More Thor please! lol

They're going to preserve continuity. It's not even a question (minus TIH which we know Feige hates). They're saving the heavier interpersonal relationships for the individual sequels ...... as they should .... why would they want to rob themselves of material? The Avengers is like some world threatening, motley crue summer camp for these guys .... odd comparison, but that's what it is.

[Rock Sexton]

Does Jane even know he's back on Earth in this flick yet? It would be nice if we get like one cameo or whatever at the end of her finding out or something.

http://www.un-scripted.com/blogs/alan/uploaded_images/PleaseMakeItStop-749714.jpg

[jonathancrane]

I'd rather they keep the role of the love interests minimum.

[steintym]

It's weird how every time Alexei can't find anyone to agree with him Bobby shows up and does just that. Convenient is the word that comes to mind.

Hmmmm .....

[Silvermoon]

http://www.un-scripted.com/blogs/alan/uploaded_images/PleaseMakeItStop-749714.jpg
I think this emoticon is quite fitting for this subject:

:bdh:

:dry::dry:

[mara]

They're going to preserve continuity. It's not even a question (minus TIH which we know Feige hates). They're saving the heavier interpersonal relationships for the individual sequels ...... as they should .... why would they want to rob themselves of material? The Avengers is like some world threatening, motley crue summer camp for these guys .... odd comparison, but that's what it is.

Oh I totally don't want to be robbed of anything, not as bad as I want this movie! lol

I'd rather they keep the role of the love interests minimum.

Yes please, the bare minimum.

I am NOT one for romance, give me action! lol

[Poni_Boy]

Well the only Pinch hitter we have seen on screen anyway .
Given Tony's Prolific Romantic History ,
There are quite a few possibilties to replace Pepper .
And for Cap, there is always Sharon Carter, waiting in the wings .

To me, at least, on screen is all that matters for reference. Sif is the only love interest "alternate" we've been introduced to so far.

I think the oerfect way to include all of the heroes's significant others is that after the battle/war is over, have Coulson walk up to the team and have him tell them they have their (Thor, Hulk, Tony, and maybe Cap) girlfirends on the phone for them.

They can then have their girls yell at them for the dangerous things they did in the midst of battle and complaining about how worried they were.

....not sure if serious

[Poni_Boy]

It's weird how every time Alexei can't find anyone to agree with him Bobby shows up and does just that. Convenient is the word that comes to mind.

You spelled schizophrenia wrong

[Nova2113]

It's weird how every time Alexei can't find anyone to agree with him Bobby shows up and does just that. Convenient is the word that comes to mind.

OOOHHHHH SSSNNNAAAPPPPP!!!!:wow:

[HUMANIMAL]

It's weird how every time Alexei can't find anyone to agree with him Bobby shows up and does just that. Convenient is the word that comes to mind.
soliloquy?

[HUMANIMAL]

schizophrenia?

[Nova2113]

we got a kick ass team fighting an invasion, while trying to get along with each other and we over here *****ing about some love...... SOME LOVE..... all I wanna see is the love of some ass kicking all over the big screen.

[Gamma Burst]

we got a kick ass team fighting an invasion, while trying to get along with each other and we over here *****ing about some love...... SOME LOVE..... all I wanna see is the love of some ass kicking all over the big screen.

That's all the love I need.

[craigdbfan]

I think the oerfect way to include all of the heroes's significant others is that after the battle/war is over, have Coulson walk up to the team and have him tell them they have their (Thor, Hulk, Tony, and maybe Cap) girlfirends on the phone for them.

They can then have their girls yell at them for the dangerous things they did in the midst of battle and complaining about how worried they were.That sounds horrifically cheesy and not in a good way.

[Mysteryman]

They're going to preserve continuity. It's not even a question (minus TIH which we know Feige hates). They're saving the heavier interpersonal relationships for the individual sequels ...... as they should .... why would they want to rob themselves of material? The Avengers is like some world threatening, motley crue summer camp for these guys .... odd comparison, but that's what it is.
What is Feige 's problem with TIH?

[protocida]

i don't mind romance. There's a little bit of it in the movie, from what I've heard, with the Black Widow/Hawkeye/Banner thing. That's fine, and not too overblown. But everyone having girlfriends? That's too much. Right now, we need http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/images/smilies/Awesome.gif EXPLOSIONS. http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/images/smilies/Awesome.gif

[Rock Sexton]

That sounds horrifically cheesy and not in a good way.

I'm glad somebody else thought that.

[Poni_Boy]

That sounds horrifically cheesy and not in a good way.

Yeah, that's why I was asking (hoping?) he was joking. That's almost as bad as the guy calling Hakweye "the worst archer in the world" because he doesn't hold his bow correctly.

[Rock Sexton]

Yeah, that's why I was asking (hoping?) he was joking. That's almost as bad as the guy calling Hakweye "the worst archer in the world" because he doesn't hold his bow correctly.

Would a celebratory dinner at the end of the movie with all their girls sitting next to them be better? You know like that forced bullcrap at the end of Ocean's 12. LOL

[Splat]

Odin stole it! lol jk

I've wondered the same, be it in CA all we got was a "Jewel of Odins vault" and an "unlimited power" in the after credit scene.

In the comics its been made by the Skrulls, AIM I think and maybe someone else. Basically if you've got the tech and the know how you can make one. I doubt the MCU will go that route though.

[Mysteryman]

From the looks of the Japanese trailer ,
Hawkeye knows EXACTLY what to do with his bow when it counts .

[Poni_Boy]

Would a celebratory dinner at the end of the movie with all their girls sitting next to them be better? LOL

Only if it's at Dennys and Thor finally gets another damn cup of coffee

[protocida]

Would a celebratory dinner at the end of the movie with all their girls sitting next to them be better? LOL
It should have the classic dance-off ending. Everybody dancing. Iron Man dancing with Pepper at Stark Tower. The Hulk dancing with Banner. Black Widow dancing with Hawkeye at the Helicarrier. Coulson and Maria Hill dancing. Loki dancing with an alien. Cap dancing with Fury (and sucking at it). All to the sound of "Everybody Dance Now".

[mara]

Would a celebratory dinner at the end of the movie with all their girls sitting next to them be better? LOL

LMAO!!! :funny:

[Rock Sexton]

It should have the classic dance-off ending. Everybody dancing. Iron Man dancing with Pepper at Stark Tower. The Hulk dancing with Banner. Black Widow dancing with Hawkeye at the Helicarrier. Coulson and Maria Hill dancing. Loki dancing with an alien. Cap dancing with Fury (and sucking at it). All to the sound of "Everybody Dance Now".

I would promptly chuck my soda at the screen if I ever saw any cheesy crap remotely close to that ....... then promptly get tackled by security. :woot:

That's like taking a dump on top of the world's finest steak that was just grilled to perfection for you.

[Nova2113]

That's all the love I need.

well you are a gentleman and a scholar my friend

[Nova2113]

It should have the classic dance-off ending. Everybody dancing. Iron Man dancing with Pepper at Stark Tower. The Hulk dancing with Banner. Black Widow dancing with Hawkeye at the Helicarrier. Coulson and Maria Hill dancing. Loki dancing with an alien. Cap dancing with Fury (and sucking at it). All to the sound of "Everybody Dance Now".

The I would AVENGE my eyes by ripping them out of my head and tossing them at the load kids in the front row

[WildcatNC]

I say they all invite the girls to dinner. Tony doesn't show so they go to get him and he's in this massive orgy with all the teams girls. Hell, even Peggies old arse is in there.

They all yell, "Tony"!! Stark shrugs his shoulders and looks at the camera, Thor throws Mjolnir at camera. Goes to black.

We need some conflict for the sequel. A classic Quagmire. :o

[Raiden]

i don't mind romance. There's a little bit of it in the movie, from what I've heard, with the Black Widow/Hawkeye/Banner thing. That's fine, and not too overblown. But everyone having girlfriends? That's too much. Right now, we need http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/images/smilies/Awesome.gif EXPLOSIONS. http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/images/smilies/Awesome.gif

Girlfriends should be left in their own respective movies as much as possible, although hints of romance is fine (such as BW with Hawkeye and/or Banner). This movie has more than enough things on its plate from assembling the Avengers together to saving the world and defeating Loki.

[Quasimod0]

Man I can't believe no one has mentioned Jane Foster lately. She BETTER at least be mentioned. I kid. :oldrazz:

[BigThor]

thought that was Cap?

Nope, Hawkeye and Black Widow were the pilots and Cap & Iron Man were in the back of the jet.

It should have the classic dance-off ending. Everybody dancing. Iron Man dancing with Pepper at Stark Tower. The Hulk dancing with Banner. Black Widow dancing with Hawkeye at the Helicarrier. Coulson and Maria Hill dancing. Loki dancing with an alien. Cap dancing with Fury (and sucking at it). All to the sound of "Everybody Dance Now".

Man I seriously LOL'ed when I read "Loki dancing with an Alien".

[BigThor]

Double post

[Quasimod0]

Crappy Quality. Still Amazing

http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/701443/heli.gif

[protocida]

How long 'til it crashes?

[BigThor]

How long 'til it crashes?

Lol that's what I wanna see, man f*** Shield! :argh:

[Mysteryman]

Why Didnt Feige like TIH?

[Scarecrow_King]

Lol that's what I wanna see, man f*** Shield! :argh:

for reals.

[Poni_Boy]

Why Didnt Feige like TIH?

He didn't dislike the movie. He and Norton had creative differences.

[HighFivingMF]

Why Didnt Feige like TIH?

Because he's a poopooface.

[Deejo]

I want this is high res dammit! Found on latino-review. Apologies if its been posted.
http://latino-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/conceptart-avengers.jpg
And I want it huge, framed on my wall. DAT ASS.

[Mysteryman]

Is that from The Art of The Avengers ?

[Smashlilman]

It should have the classic dance-off ending. Everybody dancing. Iron Man dancing with Pepper at Stark Tower. The Hulk dancing with Banner. Black Widow dancing with Hawkeye at the Helicarrier. Coulson and Maria Hill dancing. Loki dancing with an alien. Cap dancing with Fury (and sucking at it). All to the sound of "Everybody Dance Now".
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn6/mzchiefphotos/mzchief/ct_genie-poster.jpg

Alakazam
433hnynHTsA
Qei2GK23ZBU
7fUrFEWSdgk
fiaXHI4xpB8

[JB-the-Hunter]

Everybody who once complained about the cinematography better shut their pie holes now. Seamus McGarvey is an oscar winner and this cinematography is the best yet in a Marvel movie IMO.

[BobbyCorwin88]

It's weird how every time Alexei can't find anyone to agree with him Bobby shows up and does just that. Convenient is the word that comes to mind.
What, you think we're the same person or something? Because that would truly be sad. Is it really that hard to believe that two people out of this whole board might slightly agree on things sometimes?

I've agreed with you before. Is that convenient too? Lot's of other posters here agree with each other. Are they all the same? Are they all coordinating their posts with one another to make sure everyone is in perfect agreement?

If you've got something to say then just say it man. I'm sorry my agreeing with someone bothers you. And just for your information I don't completely agree with him on this particular issue, I just happen to see where he's coming from. I don't care if Jane Foster is in this movie, and I'd pretty much prefer her not to be, but I do kind of like the idea of her being hinted at as in peril for a Thor sequel. That's all. I'll carry on a conversation with whoever the heck I please, thank you very much.

And just for the record, pretty much everything either of us has posted on this particular issue lately has been pretty darn civil. So I have no clue why you or anyone else has a problem with it.

[Quasimod0]

Its perfectly fine to want jane foster to be mentioned. Its the going on and on about it and being insufferable that makes people upset. Theres a huge difference between wanting to see something, and complaining.

[Chewy]

I go away for awhile and look at the mess you guys made. I'm rolling up my newspaper

Although I think the movie ending at Denny's is a great idea. Not with the girlfriends, mind you. Just the Avengers yukking it up over some pancakes

[Quasimod0]

I'd love to see what alternate endings they shot but didnt use for the film

[BigThor]

I go away for awhile and look at the mess you guys made. I'm rolling up my newspaper

Although I think the movie ending at Denny's is a great idea. Not with the girlfriends, mind you. Just the Avengers yukking it up over some pancakes

Agreed :woot:

Lol

[herolee10]

I'd love to see what alternate endings they shot but didnt use for the film

Did they really film alternate endings? I can't imagine them doing a X-3 thing where they filmed several endings for the film.

[BobbyCorwin88]

Its perfectly fine to want jane foster to be mentioned. Its the going on and on about it and being insufferable that makes people upset. Theres a huge difference between wanting to see something, and complaining.
I guess what you saw as complaining I saw as defending a position and restating the facts of an argument. It was just a talking point. I kinda like those sometimes. But I guess I better stop right there because then I'll be defending AB again and as we learned last time that's just unacceptable.

[Mysteryman]

X-3 had three endings?

[Quasimod0]

I thought i heard someone say that they did.

[BigThor]

How do you properly embed a video on here without the screen just being blank when you click on it?

[Quasimod0]

I guess what you saw as complaining I saw as defending a position and restating the facts of an argument. It was just a talking point. I kinda like those sometimes. But I guess I better stop right there because then I'll be defending AB again and as we learned last time that's just unacceptable.
Yeah, I see. Often, talking points go on for way too long. People keep arguing on both sides and nothng ever gets done and its really just a waste of time.