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[Nova2113]

I'm getting the feeling that each Avengers has the others back type vibe from those Character Posters... definitely Digging it!!!

[herolee10]

Given that Whedon has described his film to be like a war film, I wonder if that means that we'll also see a lot of civilian casualties take place in this film.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't see as much civilian casualties in the last 3 Marvel Films as opposed to Iron Man 1 and TIH.

We saw people running scared and panicked in IM2 and to a lesser extent, in Thor, but it was mainly soldiers or armed forces that got killed in the last three films.

I kind of want to see in visual context on the Avengers realizing on what's at stake here, that if they don't win, that not only will humanity be enslaved but that a lot of people are going to die as a result, with them already having failed to save some people to emphasize their need.

[xeno000]

I'd definitely like to see on what Whedon has in stored that would make audiences think that both Thor and the Hulk would be endanger of losing their lives in the battle given their levels of strength and power.


In the set photos Thor and Cap look like they got the crap kicked out of them. Hopefully they'll bloody up Hulk, too, none of that absurd "never gets injured" BS from the comics.

[herolee10]

In the set photos Thor and Cap look like they got the crap kicked out of them. Hopefully they'll bloody up Hulk, too, none of that absurd "never gets injured" BS from the comics.


Agreed; for the threat to really be taken serious imho, even the Hulk needs to be shown that he could very well lose this battle instead of presenting him as the plot device that miraculously turns the tide of the war within a instant.

[Nova2113]

Do you guys think Hawkeye will also be proficient in Hand to Hand combat? Cause those arrows can't get him out of everything...

[marvel_freshman]

Found the Cap/Hawkeye poster in UHQ (2150x3000)
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8853/avs120314.jpg

[warhorse78]

Given that Whedon has described his film to be like a war film, I wonder if that means that we'll also see a lot of civilian casualties take place in this film.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't see as much civilian casualties in the last 3 Marvel Films as opposed to Iron Man 1 and TIH.

We saw people running scared and panicked in IM2 and to a lesser extent, in Thor, but it was mainly soldiers or armed forces that got killed in the last three films.

I kind of want to see in visual context on the Avengers realizing on what's at stake here, that if they don't win, that not only will humanity be enslaved but that a lot of people are going to die as a result, with them already having failed to save some people to emphasize their need.

Hard to say. Joss Whedon has no problem with body counts in most of his material, but he might have a slight leash on him because of Disney. But if last years Transformers 3, Harry Potter did it, don't see no reason why this won't.

[xeno000]

Found the Cap/Hawkeye poster in UHQ (2150x3000)
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8853/avs120314.jpg


Thanks! It's beautiful, and different from the Hawkeye/Hulk one. I like seeing Hawkeye get a little love in the posters.


They still need to put out one with Agent Coulson, though. The man's been in four films, he deserves some respect.

[herolee10]

Hard to say. Joss Whedon has no problem with body counts in most of his material, but he might have a slight leash on him because of Disney. But if last years Transformers 3, Harry Potter did it, don't see no reason why this won't.

True, but Disney didn't seem to have that problem with having body counts in their Pirates films, heck we saw a kid ready to be hanged in the opening of "At World's End".lol

I wouldn't mind something like seeing a similar devastation in the way that the Decepticons had brought when invading Chicago in TF3.

Imho, instead of just implying that a lot of innocent people will be killed in the process if the heroes don't win...show it in dramatic fashion to make it more effective imho.

[xeno000]

Given that Whedon has described his film to be like a war film, I wonder if that means that we'll also see a lot of civilian casualties take place in this film.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't see as much civilian casualties in the last 3 Marvel Films as opposed to Iron Man 1 and TIH.

We saw people running scared and panicked in IM2 and to a lesser extent, in Thor, but it was mainly soldiers or armed forces that got killed in the last three films.

I kind of want to see in visual context on the Avengers realizing on what's at stake here, that if they don't win, that not only will humanity be enslaved but that a lot of people are going to die as a result, with them already having failed to save some people to emphasize their need.


The dead thread has pages and pages of back and forth over civilian casualties in Marvel films. Literally reams of stuff. We spent most of the day discussing the pros and cons. It's all over there. >>>>> Promise.

[herolee10]

The dead thread has pages and pages of back and forth over civilian casualties in Marvel films. Literally reams of stuff. We spent most of the day discussing the pros and cons. It's all over there. >>>>> Promise.

Really? Wow, I never knew of that. Interesting to know about indeed.


Oh, and another thing I'd like to add is that I hope Loki's invasion lasts longer than "one day's" worth.lol

[PowerPacked]

Superheroes gone to war. Awesome!

I just can't wait for this film.

[herolee10]

Superheroes gone to war. Awesome!

I just can't wait for this film.

Indeed; I had been hoping to see a film about superheroes going to war in the X-Men films...especially with X3 prior before its release...course I never got that.lol

We've never really had a group of heroes presented, whether it was a singular group like the X-Men or the Fantastic Four, really shown in a serious War Environment till now imho.

[Spider-Vader]

Do you guys think Hawkeye will also be proficient in Hand to Hand combat? Cause those arrows can't get him out of everything...

Definitely. There's no way that one of SHIELD's top agents wouldn't be a beast in hand-to-hand. I wouldn't mind a scene where Cap shows Clint a few fighting moves though, as a reference to how Steve trained Clint in hand-to-hand combat in the comics.

[Quasimod0]

What sucks is that this film has a ton of characters and a ton of story to cover. So we cant see everything we want to see from each character. We can trust though, that every character will have their fair share of moments to shine

[herolee10]

What sucks is that this film has a ton of characters and a ton of story to cover. So we cant see everything we want to see from each character. We can trust though, that every character will have their fair share of moments to shine

I would think that it'd be harder to bring in Thor and Captain America into this film considering that both of their films ended on somewhat of a cliffhanger when compared to IM2 and TIH.

I mean, it can't be easy bringing all of that baggage into this film without running the risk of spending a lot of time dealing with all of that while still making the film not feel as though it were a direct sequel for those characters.

[captainrogers]

Found the Cap/Hawkeye poster in UHQ (2150x3000)
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8853/avs120314.jpg

Freshy, I could kiss you.

[Nova2113]

Definitely. There's no way that one of SHIELD's top agents wouldn't be a beast in hand-to-hand. I wouldn't mind a scene where Cap shows Clint a few fighting moves though, as a reference to how Steve trained Clint in hand-to-hand combat in the comics.

Yea I just hope that doesn't get skipped over. When Widow fights him, he better give her a run for her money... that's all I'm saying. :ninja:

[Quasimod0]

I would think that it'd be harder to bring in Thor and Captain America into this film considering that both of their films ended on somewhat of a cliffhanger when compared to IM2 and TIH.

I mean, it can't be easy bringing all of that baggage into this film without running the risk of spending a lot of time dealing with all of that while still making the film not feel as though it were a direct sequel for those characters.
Thats why I was really excited about cap being the focus of the avengers. Thor and iron man both have their own films next year, cap doesnt.

[jaqua99]

In the set photos Thor and Cap look like they got the crap kicked out of them. Hopefully they'll bloody up Hulk, too, none of that absurd "never gets injured" BS from the comics.

Remember when he fought Zeus? :P

[jaqua99]

Agreed; for the threat to really be taken serious imho, even the Hulk needs to be shown that he could very well lose this battle instead of presenting him as the plot device that miraculously turns the tide of the war within a instant.

Ugh I don't want him to be the game changer, we have seen Thor's level of power as city busting, there is no way in hell Hulk will be able to top that, and I hope Thor's power isn't reduced from that, that would bring inconsistency to the character, and that would be something pointed out for sure.

I really don't wanna see any "game changer". Especially since this is a team, if there is a game changer, lets hope its not one solo character, its an ensemble film, so it would have to be something as a team. But it seems like there won't be a game changing moment, like whedon said, we wont see something along the lines of, the avengers are together, yayy.



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[The Caped Knight]

Found the Cap/Hawkeye poster in UHQ (2150x3000)
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8853/avs120314.jpg

You sir are MR. INCREDIBLE !!!!!!!!! :woot:

[xeno000]

Remember when he fought Zeus? :P


That was good, but it was the exception rather than the rule. Nowadays, very little can touch Hulk, which to me makes him a very uninteresting character. In the Hulk thread I was assured that even when he's in the Banner state Hulk cannot be killed or permanently injured because the second his body senses damage it will automatically repair anything, even damage from bullets fired into his brain.


That is utter insanity. I wouldn't expect the movie-verse to embrace that level of invulnerability because there would be nowhere to go with the character. Hulk has to be vulnerable to injury and defeat like all of the others or there's no point to the exercise.

[terry78]

The way he's written nowadays, the heroes should basically be doing everything in their power to stay on his good side considering barely anything fazes his ass.

[sabetoonth]

That was good, but it was the exception rather than the rule. Nowadays, very little can touch Hulk, which to me makes him a very uninteresting character. In the Hulk thread I was assured that even when he's in the Banner state Hulk cannot be killed or permanently injured because the second his body senses damage it will automatically repair anything, even damage from bullets fired into his brain.


That is utter insanity. I wouldn't expect the movie-verse to embrace that level of invulnerability because there would be nowhere to go with the character. Hulk has to be vulnerable to injury and defeat like all of the others or there's no point to the exercise.

the deleted opening has Banner shoot himself in the head but he hulks out and smashes a glaicer as soon as he pulls the trigger

[WildcatNC]

That was good, but it was the exception rather than the rule. Nowadays, very little can touch Hulk, which to me makes him a very uninteresting character. In the Hulk thread I was assured that even when he's in the Banner state Hulk cannot be killed or permanently injured because the second his body senses damage it will automatically repair anything, even damage from bullets fired into his brain.


That is utter insanity. I wouldn't expect the movie-verse to embrace that level of invulnerability because there would be nowhere to go with the character. Hulk has to be vulnerable to injury and defeat like all of the others or there's no point to the exercise.

I agree. They need to draw a line.

[xeno000]

The way he's written nowadays, the heroes should basically be doing everything in their power to stay on his good side considering barely anything fazes his ass.


Actually, the heroes in the Marvel Comics Universe should be actively seeking ways to either kill Hulk or get him permanently off the planet. The Illuminati were absolutely correct in shooting him off into space, though they ought to have aimed the ship at the heart of the Sun. (Assuming they didn't.) He's too dangerous to live, what with his "continent-shattering stomp" and other assorted nonsensical powers.

[Gamma Goliath]

that's pretty inhumane.

[Oberon sexton]

Actually, the heroes in the Marvel Comics Universe should be actively seeking ways to either kill Hulk or get him permanently off the planet. The Illuminati were absolutely correct in shooting him off into space, though they ought to have aimed the ship at the heart of the Sun. (Assuming they didn't.) He's too dangerous to live, what with his "continent-shattering stomp" and other assorted nonsensical powers.
Thor can supposedly destroy a galaxy when in possession of the odinforce....how is that any different?

[xeno000]

the deleted opening has Banner shoot himself in the head but he hulks out and smashes a glaicer as soon as he pulls the trigger


But that was Banner trying to kill himself. Presumably he got agitated and his adrenaline spiked, causing the transformation. Had a sniper shot Banner from a quarter-mile away he would have had no warning that would trigger the physiological change into the Hulk. Someone on the Hulk thread did assure me that even a sniper's bullet couldn't kill Banner, though, with some cartoon science explanation that in the split second it takes for a bullet to enter his brain his transformation would be triggered. Or some such. It makes no sense unless you buy into it.

[xeno000]

that's pretty inhumane.

No, just coldly realistic. Hulk rampaging and destroying entire cities definitely is inhumane, however. Did "World War Hulk" leave a lot of innocents dead?


Thor can supposedly destroy a galaxy when in possession of the odinforce....how is that any different?

If Thor kills billions with that power, then it isn't different at all.

[sabetoonth]

Actually, the heroes in the Marvel Comics Universe should be actively seeking ways to either kill Hulk or get him permanently off the planet. The Illuminati were absolutely correct in shooting him off into space, though they ought to have aimed the ship at the heart of the Sun. (Assuming they didn't.) He's too dangerous to live, what with his "continent-shattering stomp" and other assorted nonsensical powers.

They aimed him to a planet devoid of sentient life like there is on Earth were he would indeed be left alone, thats why they aimed him there.

[Oberon sexton]

Well that's the thing...anyone with that kind of power has that potential to cause an uncountable amount of destruction, yet they also have the potential to do great thing as well. For every civilian crushed by a falling piece of rubble there's millions more that have been saved by the Hulks actions, more often than not he's mainly reactionary. It isn't a black and white issue.

[WildcatNC]

No, just coldly realistic. Hulk rampaging and destroying entire cities definitely is inhumane, however. Did "World War Hulk" leave a lot of innocents dead?




If Thor kills billions with that power, then it isn't different at all.


The difference I see is that Hulk is a terrestrial creature. He is of Earth and primarily puts the earth in danger.

If Thor were to try to destroy earth then it would be the same. Otherwise we really have no say or investment.

The fact is they have just WAY overpowered Hulk. It leads to all kinds of these logical fallacies and ethical conundrums.



Thats just how it works with popular characters though. Wolverine, Batman, Hulk, etc. All get more powerful because of popularity.

[Gamma Goliath]

No, just coldly realistic. Hulk rampaging and destroying entire cities definitely is inhumane, however. Did "World War Hulk" leave a lot of innocents dead?




If Thor kills billions with that power, then it isn't different at all.

but hulk hasnt killed billions....

[xeno000]

but hulk hasnt killed billions....


No, but he tore the **** out of New York, drove off its population and did whatever the hell else he pleased, all for a misguided vendetta.

[Cth]

No, but he tore the **** out of New York, drove off its population and did whatever the hell else he pleased, all for a misguided vendetta.

Heh, biased much?

WWH gave 24 hour notice and told people to evacuate which is more than what all the heroes did in Civil War or any other number of clashes.

And keep in mind, the "misguided vendetta" was the result of superheroes playing god behind the scenes keeping secrets from everyone. They came close to destroying the universe many times.. they're the biggest danger, not the Hulk. Even Xavier acknowledged that.

[Smashlilman]

In the set photos Thor and Cap look like they got the crap kicked out of them. Hopefully they'll bloody up Hulk, too, none of that absurd "never gets injured" BS from the comics.

Getting beat up is ok. Getting permanently injured no. I'd rather have the Hulk looking winded but still looking hyped and primed for more fighting.


The Hulk form the Comics takes damage in the comics but keeps on trucking though it.

[xeno000]

The difference I see is that Hulk is a terrestrial creature. He is of Earth and primarily puts the earth in danger.

If Thor were to try to destroy earth then it would be the same. Otherwise we really have no say or investment.

The fact is they have just WAY overpowered Hulk. It leads to all kinds of these logical fallacies and ethical conundrums.



Thats just how it works with popular characters though. Wolverine, Batman, Hulk, etc. All get more powerful because of popularity.


I totally agree.


Having characters as powerful as Hulk (and Thor, Superman, the ludicrous Sentry, etc.) is extremely problematic. When villains are that powerful, they serve as a challenge and a contrast to the heroes. When the heroes themselves have that much power, it's almost impossible for them to be challenged. That was such a problem for Superman that DC tried several times to de-power him so that it was easier to write compelling stories for him. But they always backslid and returned him to previous levels. It's odd that Marvel has fallen into the same habit, and with more characters.


Wolverine started out as an interesting little psycho who would never admit defeat. He has evolved into a less-interesting little psycho who seemingly cannot be killed. Same as for Hulk, Superman and a few others. There is something about those characters that I find very unsettling and unrelatable. Perhaps if I identified with fantasy omnipotence I would enjoy them more.

[Oberon sexton]

I totally agree.


Having characters as powerful as Hulk (and Thor, Superman, the ludicrous Sentry, etc.) is extremely problematic. When villains are that powerful, they serve as a challenge and a contrast to the heroes. When the heroes themselves have that much power, it's almost impossible for them to be challenged. That was such a problem for Superman that DC tried several times to de-power him so that it was easier to write compelling stories for him. But they always backslid and returned him to previous levels. It's odd that Marvel has fallen into the same habit, and with more characters.


Wolverine started out as an interesting little psycho who would never admit defeat. He has evolved into a less-interesting little psycho who seemingly cannot be killed. Same as for Hulk, Superman and a few others. There is something about those characters that I find very unsettling and unrelatable. Perhaps if I identified with fantasy omnipotence I would enjoy them more.

I know this is a Marvel board but seriously do yourself a favor and pick up All-star Superman.

[xeno000]

Getting beat up is ok. Getting permanently injured no. I'd rather have the Hulk looking winded but still looking hyped and primed for more fighting.


The Hulk form the Comics takes damage in the comics but keeps on trucking though it.


The battle should wear on Hulk the same way his fight with Blonsky did in TIH. Both of them were able to injure each other and both were pushed to the brink. With their superior technology, the aliens and Loki should be able to inflict some damage on Hulk, too. Of course they won't be able to ultimately defeat him, but he should never have it easy. As Whedon said, the outcome has to be in doubt and death a possibility in order for the stakes to be high enough to justify the film.

[irapogi]

Speaking of hulks invulnerability

I like the comic the end where hulk was the last being on earth. It was long with a lot of back and forth between banner and hulk. Banner was thousands of years old and the hulk woudnt let him die

I like the end. Spoiler bittersweet when hulk was cold and lonely end spoiler

[sabetoonth]

you forgot the coding I think

[Praxis222]

Y'know what I was just thinking would be kinda badass?

For the comic adaptation of the movie (which is surely coming), if they did something a little different than the norm. What if they brought in someone like Darwyn Cooke to do the art to give it that Jack Kirby feel. And what if he didn't try to recreate the movie costumes but actually used the designs of their 60's counterparts.

Basically make a comic book adaptation that feels more like it's a lost comic FROM the 60's by Lee and Kirby that no one knew about.

Am I alone in thinking that could be kinda sweet? (And a little bit more unique than your standard issue movie adaptation)

Just thoughts passing through my head.

[Alexei Belyakov]

I'm really excited to see Cap's reaction to Banner's curse. Stark will just have an orgasm & Thor will start playing with his cellphone. But Cap? The guy's reaction will be epic: "What the hell is that thing??? And how do we stop it?".

[BigThor]

Thor can supposedly destroy a galaxy when in possession of the odinforce....how is that any different?

Correction can destroy galaxies with the possession of the Odin Force and that's not even the most powerful version of Thor either.

I'm really excited to see Cap's reaction to Banner's curse. Stark will just have an orgasm & Thor will start playing with his cellphone. But Cap? The guy's reaction will be epic: "What the hell is that thing??? And how do we stop it?".

Thor playing with his cell phone, what?

[SpideyFan866]

i'm really excited to see cap's reaction to banner's curse. thor will just have an orgasm & stark will start playing with his cellphone. But cap? The guy's reaction will be epic: "what the hell is that thing??? And how do we stop it?".

fixed.

[SpideyFan866]

Correction can destroy galaxies with the possession of the Odin Force and that's not even the most powerful version of Thor either.



Thor playing with his cell phone, what?

See my last comment.

[BigThor]

See my last comment.

I don't think he would be all that fazed by Banner's transformation though, he's seen creatures far larger and more monstrous than Hulk before.

[Son of Coul]

Y'know what I was just thinking would be kinda badass?

For the comic adaptation of the movie (which is surely coming), if they did something a little different than the norm. What if they brought in someone like Darwyn Cooke to do the art to give it that Jack Kirby feel. And what if he didn't try to recreate the movie costumes but actually used the designs of their 60's counterparts.

Basically make a comic book adaptation that feels more like it's a lost comic FROM the 60's by Lee and Kirby that no one knew about.

Am I alone in thinking that could be kinda sweet? (And a little bit more unique than your standard issue movie adaptation)

Just thoughts passing through my head.

I think this would be awesome. :up:

[cherokeesam]

I totally agree.


Having characters as powerful as Hulk (and Thor, Superman, the ludicrous Sentry, etc.) is extremely problematic. When villains are that powerful, they serve as a challenge and a contrast to the heroes. When the heroes themselves have that much power, it's almost impossible for them to be challenged. That was such a problem for Superman that DC tried several times to de-power him so that it was easier to write compelling stories for him. But they always backslid and returned him to previous levels. It's odd that Marvel has fallen into the same habit, and with more characters.


Wolverine started out as an interesting little psycho who would never admit defeat. He has evolved into a less-interesting little psycho who seemingly cannot be killed. Same as for Hulk, Superman and a few others. There is something about those characters that I find very unsettling and unrelatable. Perhaps if I identified with fantasy omnipotence I would enjoy them more.

Their omnipotence comes from popularity. They don't die (much) because they're a franchise. In that sense, they're no more "omnipotent" than Sherlock Holmes or James Bond.

And Hulk would only be a danger if he got to the point that he couldn't tell good from evil, or couldn't give a crap about the difference. It's a mistake to think of Hulk as an uncontrollable, raging monster --- no matter what level his rage, he only attacks the people who are attacking him, or who are attacking innocents.

Hulk's a good guy, not a monster.

[xeno000]

From yesterday's Asahi Shimbun, pieced together by Tumblr-er eatingcroutons:

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0vbxiwdgF1r2j1bko1_500.jpg


We need to see this ad in USA Today, preferably in higher quality. :word:

[Chewy]

Chris Evans - Scarlett Johansson - Chris Hemsworth - Robert Downey Jr - Jeremy Renner - Mark Ruffalo - Samuel L Jackson

Is the cast order on that poster. Seems odd

[xeno000]

Chris Evans - Scarlett Johansson - Chris Hemsworth - Robert Downey Jr - Jeremy Renner - Mark Ruffalo - Samuel L Jackson

Is the cast order on that poster. Seems odd


Could be worse. Could be "Robert Downey Jr. The Avengers," right? :cwink:

[Chewy]

Could be worse. Could be "Robert Downey Jr. The Avengers," right? :cwink:
I'd punch a baby :jedi

[Crimson King]

Looks like they got rid of the Ash Wednesday smudge on RDJ's head.

[Dr Lee]

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1361/an8yk4tcqaabvee.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/an8yk4tcqaabvee.jpg/)

[afan]

I'm really excited to see Cap's reaction to Banner's curse. Thor will just have an orgasm & Stark will start playing with his cellphone. But Cap? The guy's reaction will be epic: "What the hell is that thing??? And how do we stop it?".


I suspect a running "gag" in the film is Stark's interest in the Hulk transformation and his somewhat juvenile attempts to trigger it. Perhaps he succeeds and the Stark stimulated appearance of the Hulk is the reason for the rumored Hulk/Avengers confrontation. That confrontation might instill in Stark, and all the team, a respect for The Hulk's power, and a realization it's never to be taken lightly which would explain his come back at Loki's, "army" threat.

[BigThor]

Now that pic in the magazine scan DOES look like Tony Stark & Friends rather than The Avengers, Robert Downey Jr's face is MUCH larger than everyone else's.

[xeno000]

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1361/an8yk4tcqaabvee.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/an8yk4tcqaabvee.jpg/)


All the pinheads gave the Black Widow **** about only having two little guns, but I haven't seen any comments slamming Fury and whatserface for the same. (Nobody will ever malign the Son of Coul because we all know he could kill a whole horde of aliens with a toothpick.)

[Crimson King]

All the pinheads gave the Black Widow **** about only having two little guns, but I haven't seen any comments slamming Fury and whatserface for the same. (Nobody will ever malign the Son of Coul because we all know he could kill a whole horde of aliens with a toothpick.)

I think that's because we don't think of Fury and Hill as being the ones out there fighting the alien threat. Widow will be.

It doesn't bother me at all that she's using guns, but I think that's why you don't see complaints about those two.

[xeno000]

Now that pic in the magazine scan DOES look like Tony Stark & Friends rather than The Avengers, Robert Downey Jr's face is MUCH larger than everyone else's.


RDJ just naturally has a larger than average head. He was born that way. Don't be hatin'. :woot:

[marcvader]

Why is Steve Rogers buried in the back?

[xeno000]

Why is Steve Rogers buried in the back?


That's to compensate for the fact that Chris Evans' name is listed first (a la Robert Downey Jr.).

[BigThor]

RDJ just naturally has a larger than average head. He was born that way. Don't be hatin'. :woot:

F*** that, I'm HATIN' full time!!! :cmad:

[MrGreen]

Why is Ruffalo making a duck face?

[Iceman]

Cobie looks great in that poster.

[xeno000]

F*** that, I'm HATIN' full time!!! :cmad:


Sadly, Bighead Downey Jr. has that effect on people. :o

[xeno000]

Why is Ruffalo making a duck face?


When is Ruffalo not making a duck face? It's his default pose.

[The Caped Knight]

Why is Steve Rogers buried in the back?

That's what I'd like to know, I get that RDJ is going to be the center of attention since it's because of him, and the film success of the first Iron Man film that we even got this far. But I think both Cap and Thor should be up in front since both of their films were successful.

[Smashlilman]

When is Ruffalo not making a duck face? It's his default pose.

lol needs to be less Derek Zoolander and more Mr. Furious. :funny:
http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/z/zoolander-10614.jpghttp://www.internationalhero.co.uk/f/furious2.jpg

[Quasimod0]

Heck I'd even settle for Larry Daley :p
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsS/16562-27893.jpg

[MrGreen]

lol needs to be less Derek Zoolander and more Mr. Furious. :funny:
http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/z/zoolander-10614.jpghttp://www.internationalhero.co.uk/f/furious2.jpg

Indeed... I have nothing againts Ruffalo but I'm still not sure if he's gonna make a good Banner.

[The Caped Knight]

From yesterday's Asahi Shimbun, pieced together by Tumblr-er eatingcroutons:

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0vbxiwdgF1r2j1bko1_500.jpg


We need to see this ad in USA Today, preferably in higher quality. :word:

Well here is an HQ of the image
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4937/tumblrm0vbxiwdgf1r2j1bk.jpg

[The_Lost]

Cobie looks great in that poster.
I've been looking at that and she does look good but can the human head really
swivel at that angle? Last time I saw that look was on a terminator. If her head
melts off in the movie to reveal a terminator head I'm going to be p***ed!!:yay::yay:

[Quasimod0]

I'm watching EMH right now. And cap is training tony how to fight. lol. And he absolutely sucks. I'm glad he's a better hand to hand fighter in the MCU

[Iceman]

I've been looking at that and she does look good but can the human head really
swivel at that angle? Last time I saw that look was on a terminator. If her head
melts off in the movie to reveal a terminator head I'm going to be p***ed!!:yay::yay:She must be a Skrull! :wow:

[MrGreen]

She must be a Skrull! :wow:
There's no Skrulls in this... she must be a Redacted!

[BobbyCorwin88]

I'm pretty happy that in both the Japanese banner and the new full character banner, that Cap looks pretty good. I haven't been impressed by any of his recent posters or screen shots, but those two really do make him look good for once. Granted they have the luxury of some added photoshop, but still. I guess you take whatever you can get.

[MrGreen]

Cap look fine in most of the pics. The thing is that the CA:TFA costume is hard to top

[BigThor]

I'm watching EMH right now. And cap is training tony how to fight. lol. And he absolutely sucks. I'm glad he's a better hand to hand fighter in the MCU

Yeah he is a much better fighter in the MCU, but that is a bit unfair since Cap is a super soldier and all.

[Nathan]

I'm watching EMH right now. And cap is training tony how to fight. lol. And he absolutely sucks. I'm glad he's a better hand to hand fighter in the MCU

Cap would still beat his ass silly though.

[Raiden]

Well here is an HQ of the image
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4937/tumblrm0vbxiwdgf1r2j1bk.jpg

It looks like the actors posed for this poster, which may not be the case but their postures seemed natural. I wish the Hulk isn't shrouded in shadow and the same size as Thor, though.

[BigThor]

That's what I'd like to know, I get that RDJ is going to be the center of attention since it's because of him, and the film success of the first Iron Man film that we even got this far. But I think both Cap and Thor should be up in front since both of their films were successful.

Yeah I was like "wtf two of the big three are buried in the background", it's not a big deal though it's just weird.

[metaphysician]

Re: Hulk and banishment, I think you all have missed the point. The problem with the Hulk in comics isn't that he's powerful. There's a bunch of people on the planet that can kick his ass, when the writer isn't jobbing him out.

The problem is that the Hulk is *insane*. Banner suffers from really, really bad MPD, with basically every personality having pathological impulse control issues. Many of the personalities have limited intelligence, whether childlike or animalistic. Some of the personalities have limited or no empathy. Some are compulsively destructive. Some are just plain outright irrational, with actions not correlating to causes in any discernable way.

Worst of all, the Hulk's dominant personality *changes*, in unpredictable ways. One day the Hulk is a simple minded outcast that just wants to be left alone. . . and then, suddenly, he decides to wage war on humanity. One day he's a stable, intelligent, nice guy. . . and then suddenly he decides to just smash everything up and kill everyone. One day, he's selfish but intelligent and rational. . . and then suddenly you have a mindless force of devastation wandering about.

I'm all for the movie version being more heroic, and more stable, than the comic often manages. If the movie version has Banner as more or less in control, with the Hulk being angry and violent, but not malicious, then that's great, and it means there's no need to do ruthless anti-Hulk measures. But the comic version? Banishing him to another planet to live his life away from people is a merciful act, because killing him outright would be totally justified.

[Smashlilman]

Re: Hulk and banishment, I think you all have missed the point. The problem with the Hulk in comics isn't that he's powerful. There's a bunch of people on the planet that can kick his ass, when the writer isn't jobbing him out.

The problem is that the Hulk is *insane*. Banner suffers from really, really bad MPD, with basically every personality having pathological impulse control issues. Many of the personalities have limited intelligence, whether childlike or animalistic. Some of the personalities have limited or no empathy. Some are compulsively destructive. Some are just plain outright irrational, with actions not correlating to causes in any discernable way.

Worst of all, the Hulk's dominant personality *changes*, in unpredictable ways. One day the Hulk is a simple minded outcast that just wants to be left alone. . . and then, suddenly, he decides to wage war on humanity. One day he's a stable, intelligent, nice guy. . . and then suddenly he decides to just smash everything up and kill everyone. One day, he's selfish but intelligent and rational. . . and then suddenly you have a mindless force of devastation wandering about.

I'm all for the movie version being more heroic, and more stable, than the comic often manages. If the movie version has Banner as more or less in control, with the Hulk being angry and violent, but not malicious, then that's great, and it means there's no need to do ruthless anti-Hulk measures. But the comic version? Banishing him to another planet to live his life away from people is a merciful act, because killing him outright would be totally justified.

He made the decition to wage war on earth when he was making that war bounded pack in Planet Hulk. That was where they were all telling there backstories to each other.

They forshadowed World War Hulk at the begining of Planet Hulk. That alien said human were strong because of there Machines and Heroes. Then Hulk said not even there Heroes will save them. Then the Alien asked him what did he mean by that and Hulk didn't respond.

[Donut]

Bringing this post to light so that marvel_freshman can remember to share the other pictures in this quality with no text. Or that banner with no text & this quality would be nice

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=22694457&postcount=989

[Poni_Boy]

All the pinheads gave the Black Widow **** about only having two little guns, but I haven't seen any comments slamming Fury and whatserface for the same. (Nobody will ever malign the Son of Coul because we all know he could kill a whole horde of aliens with a toothpick.)

Agreed. And don't forget Widow has her 'Widow's Bite' wristlets. We still don't know what they're capable of, but we do know she'll use em this time around

http://lockerz.com/s/189615322

[mc7791]

Agreed. And don't forget Widow has her 'Widow's Bite' wristlets. We still don't know what they're capable of, but we do know she'll use em this time around

http://lockerz.com/s/189615322

I hope she does and maybe with some other surprises as well

[marvel_freshman]

Just uncovered the Black Widow/Cap poster textless in UHQ (2150x3000)
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3606/avs1203142.jpg

[Poni_Boy]

I hope she does and maybe with some other surprises as well

I think it's pretty obvious she's going to use them and they're quite powerful

[jaqua99]

Cap would still beat his ass silly though.

As man to man.

Re: Hulk and banishment, I think you all have missed the point. The problem with the Hulk in comics isn't that he's powerful. There's a bunch of people on the planet that can kick his ass, when the writer isn't jobbing him out.

The problem is that the Hulk is *insane*. Banner suffers from really, really bad MPD, with basically every personality having pathological impulse control issues. Many of the personalities have limited intelligence, whether childlike or animalistic. Some of the personalities have limited or no empathy. Some are compulsively destructive. Some are just plain outright irrational, with actions not correlating to causes in any discernable way.

Worst of all, the Hulk's dominant personality *changes*, in unpredictable ways. One day the Hulk is a simple minded outcast that just wants to be left alone. . . and then, suddenly, he decides to wage war on humanity. One day he's a stable, intelligent, nice guy. . . and then suddenly he decides to just smash everything up and kill everyone. One day, he's selfish but intelligent and rational. . . and then suddenly you have a mindless force of devastation wandering about.

I'm all for the movie version being more heroic, and more stable, than the comic often manages. If the movie version has Banner as more or less in control, with the Hulk being angry and violent, but not malicious, then that's great, and it means there's no need to do ruthless anti-Hulk measures. But the comic version? Banishing him to another planet to live his life away from people is a merciful act, because killing him outright would be totally justified.

Exactly haha. Its not that he is this all powerful character, cause there indeed are many characters much more powerful than him that could kick his ass, if written correctly of course. As mentioned, Thor and Sentry shouldn't be stalemating with Hulk, well Sentry is Mr. Inconsistency, but Thor shouldn't be stalemating/losing, but thats how they write it, and thats what makes it an interesting story/what makes hulk such an, well interesting character. I mean, realistically, any version of Hulk can be stopped or be defeated...but its what they do to his character. I for one, yeah, am a bit annoyed by how Hulk is written, but it still makes him such an interestingly great character...even without the PIS, he still is a great character and definitely on the most curious in Marvel.

I think it's pretty she's going to use them and they're quite powerful

Agreeeed

[marvel_freshman]

http://emileeid.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/behind-the-scenes-new-avengers.jpg?w=2000&h=427

[Silvermoon]

http://emileeid.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/behind-the-scenes-new-avengers.jpg?w=640&h=427
Awesome! thanks for finding/posting that :D

[antsman41]

These posters are all missing the true hero of the team, Agent Coulson...

[Poni_Boy]

These posters are all missing the true hero of the team, Agent Coulson...

The Son of Coul does not have time to waste posing for promo pictures. He's too busy holding the fate of the universe in his hands.

[Vartha]

droooool
Just uncovered the Black Widow/Cap poster textless in UHQ (2150x3000)
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3606/avs1203142.jpg

[steintym]

That is a sweet shot of the Black Widow.

[Vartha]

Still want a hi res of the banner

[Poni_Boy]

Still want a hi res of the banner

Ask, and...

http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2012/03/14/the-avengers-assemble-in-new-promotional-banner

[Donut]

Ask, and...

http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2012/03/14/the-avengers-assemble-in-new-promotional-banner

I want a Hi Res Textless Banner

[Vartha]

Ask, and...

http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2012/03/14/the-avengers-assemble-in-new-promotional-bannerI mean HUGE. Ultra hires sort of like what Freshman posted in the image threads

[Endeavor]

Hey folks. I had some spare time today and decided to come up with a timeline graph.
The smaller sections are the after credit scenes (except The Consultant, obviously).
What do you think? I know it's not exact, but am I close?
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8349/mcutimeline.jpg

[Kirmit]

Re: Hulk and banishment, I think you all have missed the point. The problem with the Hulk in comics isn't that he's powerful. There's a bunch of people on the planet that can kick his ass, when the writer isn't jobbing him out.

The problem is that the Hulk is *insane*. Banner suffers from really, really bad MPD, with basically every personality having pathological impulse control issues. Many of the personalities have limited intelligence, whether childlike or animalistic. Some of the personalities have limited or no empathy. Some are compulsively destructive. Some are just plain outright irrational, with actions not correlating to causes in any discernable way.

Worst of all, the Hulk's dominant personality *changes*, in unpredictable ways. One day the Hulk is a simple minded outcast that just wants to be left alone. . . and then, suddenly, he decides to wage war on humanity. One day he's a stable, intelligent, nice guy. . . and then suddenly he decides to just smash everything up and kill everyone. One day, he's selfish but intelligent and rational. . . and then suddenly you have a mindless force of devastation wandering about.

The multiple Hulk personalities haven't been around for a number of years now, there's only really been one Hulk personality who has had time to grow as a charcter and in ways mature greatly, this Hulk is far from insane. All of his changes in mood were justified by someone else screwing around in his life, he didn't suddenly decide to wage war, his *friends* blasted him off into space against his will and then he was under the impression caused a massive explosion, wiping out a million of his people, we know now that was Miek but he didn't at the time. Before Planet Hulk he was perfectly happy and peaceful living out in the middle of no where, alone but then the Illuminati messed with that, he isn't some wild creature randomly deciding to smash stuff, 99 times out of 100 it's someone else interfering and provoking him.

[Vartha]

I was under the assumption TIH was before IM2 since IM2 leads to Thor

[Endeavor]

I was under the assumption TIH was before IM2 since IM2 leads to Thor

I know why you're thinking that, because of Selvig's conversation about Banner, right?
But remember TIH starts with Banner already on the run (meaning Selvig's knowledge of him disapearing still applies because it happened prior to the events of TIH) and in IM2 Fury tells Tony he's got "other things to deal with", which I always thought meant Hulk (since the other thing happening was Thor and Son of Coul was dealing with that, not Fury).
Plus, wasn't there something on TIH that shows what's happening in Monte Carlo? Meaning that those stories overlap.

[sabetoonth]

There was the news footage in IM2's last scene in the SHIELD safe house or whatever from TIH playing on one of the screens

[steintym]

At the end of IM2, when Fury is meeting with Stark, the are shots of the campus fight on the monitors, so at least a portion of TIH takes place prior to IM2 (or they run on a close timeline).

[Praxis222]

I think this would be awesome. :up:

Sweet. I'm not alone! :)

[BigThor]

I know why you're thinking that, because of Selvig's conversation about Banner, right?
But remember TIH starts with Banner already on the run (meaning Selvig's knowledge of him disapearing still applies because it happened prior to the events of TIH) and in IM2 Fury tells Tony he's got "other things to deal with", which I always thought meant Hulk (since the other thing happening was Thor and Son of Coul was dealing with that, not Fury).
Plus, wasn't there something on TIH that shows what's happening in Monte Carlo? Meaning that those stories overlap.

Well he said "I've got bigger problems than you in the Southwest region to deal with" and Thor's story is the only big event that took place in the Southwest region.

[spideyboy_1111]

Hey folks. I had some spare time today and decided to come up with a timeline graph.
The smaller sections are the after credit scenes (except The Consultant, obviously).
What do you think? I know it's not exact, but am I close?
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8349/mcutimeline.jpg

i forget the site, but there's one thats really detailed.... you'd probably like

[Poni_Boy]

I mean HUGE. Ultra hires sort of like what Freshman posted in the image threads

Hasn't been released yet. The textless posters can be found on Disney's press site. This one is there too but as a banner image for the site itself and not a downloadable image.

[Endeavor]

Right, so I got it backwards but the point is it's got to be around the same time...
Thing is, TIH can't be too much time before Thor because to Foster, Selvig and Darcy the thought of a man being a god was ludicrous. In a world after the events of TIH, with everything that happened in NY, you'd think they would have been more open to what Thor was telling them.
That's why I put those movies so close to each other, because it would make sense that the human characters in Thor wouldn't be aware that their World is not what they thought...

[Endeavor]

i forget the site, but there's one thats really detailed.... you'd probably like

PM me if you find it please.

[Poni_Boy]

I know why you're thinking that, because of Selvig's conversation about Banner, right?
But remember TIH starts with Banner already on the run (meaning Selvig's knowledge of him disapearing still applies because it happened prior to the events of TIH) and in IM2 Fury tells Tony he's got "other things to deal with", which I always thought meant Hulk (since the other thing happening was Thor and Son of Coul was dealing with that, not Fury).
Plus, wasn't there something on TIH that shows what's happening in Monte Carlo? Meaning that those stories overlap.

Didn't Kevin Feige say that comment was in reference to Hank Pym but they removed it to avoid confusion? I don't remember Selvig naming Banner, will have to go back and rewatch.

[Endeavor]

Well he said "I've got bigger problems than you in the Southwest region to deal with" and Thor's story is the only big event that took place in the Southwest region.

You're right he did say that...

[Endeavor]

Didn't Kevin Feige say that comment was in reference to Hank Pym but they removed it to avoid confusion? I don't remember Selvig naming Banner, will have to go back and rewatch.
Nope.
In that conversation Selvig originally mentioned both Banner and Pym.
Banner remained because Selvig mentions he was an expert in Gamma radiation.
What was dropped was Pym's actual name, because that's what Feige said would be too much to include in that scene. He's still mentioned, when Selvig said he'd email his friend and Darcy tells him they also took his laptop, he just doesn't say "Hank Pym".

[Endeavor]

Tweaked it a bit... Is this better?
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8458/mcutimeline2.jpg

[spideyboy_1111]

PM me if you find it please.

found it. You might as well give up haha. there's is pretty awesome
http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/5395/A-Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Timeline/

[Endeavor]

Thank you!

[SpideyFan866]

found it. You might as well give up haha. there's is pretty awesome
http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/5395/A-Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Timeline/

Thank you!


Don't get too excited. There's an inaccuracy. That timeline says Hulk was created in 2006. He was created in 2003, 5 years prior to TIH (which takes place in 2008, not 2 years prior.

[darkslayer101]

i forget the site, but there's one thats really detailed.... you'd probably like

is it this one
http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/5395/A-Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Timeline/

[darkslayer101]

nevermind...saw spideyboy's post

[marvel_freshman]

Found the Iron Man/Hulk character poster in UHQ (2150x3000)
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3884/avs1203143.jpg

[Gamma Goliath]

very nice

[The Caped Knight]

Seriously Stark should be wearing the helmet . He looks very incomplete with out it as Iron Man.

[MrGreen]

Tweaked it a bit... Is this better?
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8458/mcutimeline2.jpg
Indeed the last one seems to be Thor (just because the after credtis scene) but the opening credits of TIH are before Iron Man.

Sorry about my english

[flickchick85]

I haven't gotten the impression that Cap was the last one recruited, so I would have thought the last bit from his movie would be earlier.

[DyeLorean]

That armor is seriously damaged! (Is that blue/purple alien blood like the one Thor has in the trailer?)

[Endeavor]

Don't get too excited. There's an inaccuracy. That timeline says Hulk was created in 2006. He was created in 2003, 5 years prior to TIH (which takes place in 2008, not 2 years prior.
Yup
There are more inaccuracies, especially towards the end, with the TIH after-credit scene and others. But overall they did an excellent job researching all the details.

[Endeavor]

Indeed the last one seems to be Thor (just because the after credtis scene) but the opening credits of TIH are before Iron Man.

Sorry about my english
Don't apologize I understood what you meant.
Problem with TIH is that it takes up such a big chunk of time from the scenes we see in the opening and the climax and ending scenes.
That's why it gets confusing, but overall I think I have a good general idea of how things developed.

[Endeavor]

I haven't gotten the impression that Cap was the last one recruited, so I would have thought the last bit from his movie would be earlier.

At what point in time do you think that scene took place?

[protocida]

^ I believe The Avengers begins with an extended version of Captain America: The First Avenger's ending. It'll be days that separate Captain America's awakening from Loki's return and the Tesseract's theft.

[DyeLorean]

Iron Man's pose reminds me of this one, which is one of my favorites

http://www.klownsasesinos.com/images/peliculas/i/ironman/ironmancov3.jpg

[Endeavor]

^ I believe The Avengers begins with an extended version of Captain America: The First Avenger's ending. It'll be days that separate Captain America's awakening from Loki's return and the Tesseract's theft.
If so then the CA: TFA after-credit scene takes place more or less where I put it... right?
Or maybe a bit further to the right.

[Scarlettess]

Yup
There are more inaccuracies, especially towards the end, with the TIH after-credit scene and others. But overall they did an excellent job researching all the details.

tend to expand on that? I might try to edit the movies together so I want everything to be right :yay:

[MrGreen]

tend to expand on that? I might try to edit the movies together so I want everything to be right :yay:

Are you gonna try to edit them TOGETHER or in order? I mean, are you gonna try to edit scene by scene or movie by movie? cause its gonna be a mess when you reach IM2/TIH/Thor :dry:

[protocida]

^ There's a guy on 4chan, Snake Charmer, who is making a 9h long supercut edit scene-by-scene.

[Scarlettess]

Are you gonna try to edit them TOGETHER or in order? I mean, are you gonna try to edit scene by scene or movie by movie? cause its gonna be a mess when you reach IM2/TIH/Thor :dry:

scene by scene. and yeah that kind of why im asking for help, I figured some of it myself, but clarification from others is always better, especially in my case lol

It'll be awesome in the end though! (hopefully)

[Scarlettess]

^ There's a guy on 4chan, Snake Charmer, who is making a 9h long supercut edit scene-by-scene.

It was my idea first! :argh:

[MrGreen]

scene by scene. and yeah that kind of why im asking for help, I figured some of it myself, but clarification from others is always better, especially in my case lol

It'll be awesome in the end though! (hopefully)

Where do you think the scenes of kid Thor and Loki fit in? before or after C:TFA?

[lixdexia]

i'm going to try to cut down cap, thor, and ironman1&2 into 3 1 hr prologues if i have enough time in the next couple of weekends

[kaijunexus]

Where do you think the scenes of kid Thor and Loki fit in? before or after C:TFA?

Definitely before! That had to take place hundreds of years ago.

[sabetoonth]

scene by scene. and yeah that kind of why im asking for help, I figured some of it myself, but clarification from others is always better, especially in my case lol

It'll be awesome in the end though! (hopefully)

Quite the undertaking man, I wanna see that when you're done. I'd say a big help would be that above linked timeline

[MrGreen]

i'm going to try to cut down cap, thor, and ironman1&2 into 3 1 hr prologues if i have enough time in the next couple of weekends

Where did you left TIH? no love for Hulk? :csad:

[Scarlettess]

Where do you think the scenes of kid Thor and Loki fit in? before or after C:TFA?

well given as they're suppose to be 1000 years old I'd say before. Also I just thought of something....

if Thor coming to earth was in 2010, and we say he was exactly 1000 years when he came to earth, that means he was born in 1010, but Odin defeated the frostgiants on earth in 0965, where he stole Loki.
but Thor is suppose to be older than Loki....


so Thor must be more than 1000 years old.:oldrazz:

[Polux]

Since you mention it; how old is norse mythology supposed to be? I just thought it was really, really old, like greek and roman myths, but Selvig grabs a book that describes Odin, Thor, Loki, the Bifrost, etc; that meaning that all the norse myths are part of mankind's ancient culture, but if Thor and Loki where only kinds 1000 years ago, how would that fit??

I'm sorry if that didn't make sense...it doesn't in my head either... :huh:


Polux

[metaphysician]

Its a bit of a plot hole, yes. One theory is that Thor and Loki were both named for older gods of the same surname that thought in the war with the Jotuns.

[wobbly]

Since you mention it; how old is norse mythology supposed to be? I just thought it was really, really old, like greek and roman myths, but Selvig grabs a book that describes Odin, Thor, Loki, the Bifrost, etc; that meaning that all the norse myths are part of mankind's ancient culture, but if Thor and Loki where only kinds 1000 years ago, how would that fit??

I'm sorry if that didn't make sense...it doesn't in my head either... :huh:


Polux

Norse mythology dates back to around the time stated at the beginning of Thor. In fact it was not really recorded until around the 11th century (in the Eddas I think), but it's safe to assume it began before that (the basic ideas of Asgard, Odin etc, were likely around in some form and passed on orally before the mythology was recorded).

In the books they have Asgard being a lot older of course, with the current crop of Gods (they get reborn after each Ragnarok) dating back to the birth of Christ (the Star of Bethlehem was in fact the old Asgard burning).

Anyways, for the comics Thor is pushing 2000 years old, and for the movies he is about 1000 years old.

As far as real world history is concerned the latter fits with what is known.

[wobbly]

well given as they're suppose to be 1000 years old I'd say before. Also I just thought of something....

if Thor coming to earth was in 2010, and we say he was exactly 1000 years when he came to earth, that means he was born in 1010, but Odin defeated the frostgiants on earth in 0965, where he stole Loki.
but Thor is suppose to be older than Loki....


so Thor must be more than 1000 years old.:oldrazz:

Thor is older than Loki. In the movie continuity we can assume Thor was a little child when Odin came to Earth for that battle, so he is about 1050 years old give a take or year or 2.

[Polux]

Norse mythology dates back to around the time stated at the beginning of Thor. In fact it was not really recorded until around the 11th century (in the Eddas I think), but it's safe to assume it began before that (the basic ideas of Asgard, Odin etc, were likely around in some form and passed on orally before the mythology was recorded).

In the books they have Asgard being a lot older of course, with the current crop of Gods (they get reborn after each Ragnarok) dating back to the birth of Christ (the Star of Bethlehem was in fact the old Asgard burning).

Anyways, for the comics Thor is pushing 2000 years old, and for the movies he is about 1000 years old.

As far as real world history is concerned the latter fits with what is known.

Thanx for the clarification, I think it sounds about right; I assume that Thor and Loki reached "grown up" age fast enough for them to visit earth before 1100 A.D. ("This isn't like a visit to Earth, where you summon some lightning and they worship you as a god..."), so people could actually tell stories about'em.


Polux

[jacobed]

The book only described the bifrost and mjolnir, nothing about Thor or Loki

[Scarlettess]

Thor is older than Loki. In the movie continuity we can assume Thor was a little child when Odin came to Earth for that battle, so he is about 1050 years old give a take or year or 2.

Ah that's what I figured.

Well if Loki and Thor age slowly, and 1000 years old, (but look human age no more than 30) then that would mean they turn 1 year older(in human terms) every 30 or so years. However if they e the same speed as a human, and then just stop aging, or slowing down aging to a great extent, then they would be have reached 'grown up' by 1040. In which Polux theory would be correct.

[Scarlettess]

The book only described the bifrost and mjolnir, nothing about Thor or Loki

Actually it did have Thor in it, though I don't think it had Loki, (the Thor Thursday thing)

[Polux]

Also, I'm not sure if the book Selvig checks describes Thor and Loki, but I'm pretty sure it at least feattures pictures of both of'em in grown up form; also, the page describin the Bifrost includes drawings of both Odin and Thor walking on it, I'm pretty sure about that.


Polux

[Smashlilman]

wobbly[/SIZE]
;22701291]Norse mythology dates back to around the time stated at the beginning of Thor. In fact it was not really recorded until around the 11th century (in the Eddas I think), but it's safe to assume it began before that (the basic ideas of Asgard, Odin etc, were likely around in some form and passed on orally before the mythology was recorded).

In the books they have Asgard being a lot older of course, with the current crop of Gods (they get reborn after each Ragnarok) dating back to the birth of Christ (the Star of Bethlehem was in fact the old Asgard burning).

Anyways, for the comics Thor is pushing 2000 years old, and for the movies he is about 1000 years old.

As far as real world history is concerned the latter fits with what is known.


Asgard and Odin were around longer than that. They had to be around way before human started recording there history. Humans have been on earth for several million years. I remember the old Thor cartoon it said that Thor was born in a cave a Millennium ago. Asgard has to be Millions of years old or maybe even billions since if they want to make the Nordic Mythology origin coincide with the real world age of the world. (3 billion)

[herolee10]

Asgard and Odin were around longer than that. They had to be around way before human started recording there history. Humans have been on earth for several million years. I remember the old Thor cartoon it said that Thor was born in a cave a Millennium ago. Asgard has to be Millions of years old or maybe even billions since if they want to make the Nordic Mythology origin coincide with the real world age of the world. (3 billion)

If that's the case, how old is Odin since he mentioned of having a father as well in "Thor" and unless his father died prematurely, I assume that he lived for a long period as well.


Also, I would think that Thor would have been very young if Odin came to Earth for the first time when Thor was already born because Frigga isn't Loki's mother thus, if he were old enough, he would have remembered that he never saw Frigga pregnant.

[wobbly]

Asgard and Odin were around longer than that. They had to be around way before human started recording there history. Humans have been on earth for several million years. I remember the old Thor cartoon it said that Thor was born in a cave a Millennium ago. Asgard has to be Millions of years old or maybe even billions since if they want to make the Nordic Mythology origin coincide with the real world age of the world. (3 billion)

I didn't say when Asgard and Odin began, I said when the current crop of Gods began, which as far as the comics are concerned (unless its been ret-conned) was 2012 years ago.

Basically, the cycle of death and rebirth through Ragnarok had been going on for untold ages (there could have been countless cycles before the current run). With each Ragnarok the Gods all died, then were reborn into a 'new' Asgard. Afaik Thor finally ended the perpetual cycle a few years back (before he came back with the new costume).

[Endeavor]

If that's the case, how old is Odin since he mentioned of having a father as well in "Thor" and unless his father died prematurely, I assume that he lived for a long period as well.


Also, I would think that Thor would have been very young if Odin came to Earth for the first time when Thor was already born because Frigga isn't Loki's mother thus, if he were old enough, he would have remembered that he never saw Frigga pregnant.

Frigga isn't Thor's biological mother.
Gaia is

[herolee10]

Frigga isn't Thor's biological mother.
Gaia is

Well yeah, that I knew. I was just referring to how Thor believes that Frigga is his real mother.

And until the MCU says otherwise, she is his biological mother...though I'm hoping that they introduce Gala since his half elder god heritage intrigues me.lol

[wobbly]

Actually it did have Thor in it, though I don't think it had Loki, (the Thor Thursday thing)

It had a picture of Loki (horned helmet and all).

[Scarlettess]

Frigga isn't Thor's biological mother.
Gaia is

In the comics yes but in the movie universe as far as the GA know, Frigga is his biological mother. Unless they say this or bring this up in future Thor movies, but as of now we can assume Frigga is.

edit: herolee beat me to it

[herolee10]

What's interesting to note is that even though Whedon said that the Avengers would have to go through hell before achieving victory, if we're to assume that the scene that was shot of the group in Central Park takes place AFTER the NYC Battle, then it doesn't look like that the Avengers only suffered minor to no injuries from their battles because I don't recall seeing any of them having any visible battle scar wounds for that scene.

[Spider-Vader]

Thor can supposedly destroy a galaxy when in possession of the odinforce....how is that any different?

Thor doesn't go on rage filled "smashing sessions" usually.

[Endeavor]

ell yeah, that I knew. I was just referring to how Thor believes that Frigga is his real [.
And until the MCU says otherwise, she is his biological mother...though I'm hoping that they introduce Gala since his half elder god heritage intrigues me.lol

Actually it works both ways:
True we don't know if they'll make her his biological mother in the MCU
But we also don't know if Thor and Loki believe her to be their biological mother either, the subject is not brought up. Loki continues to call her mother even after he knew the truth, who's to say Thor wouldn't?

[warcam]

What's interesting to note is that even though Whedon said that the Avengers would have to go through hell before achieving victory, if we're to assume that the scene that was shot of the group in Central Park takes place AFTER the NYC Battle, then it doesn't look like that the Avengers only suffered minor to no injuries from their battles because I don't recall seeing any of them having any visible battle scar wounds for that scene.


Assuming, of course, that it's the "real" ending, and not merely an alternate ending to throw everyone off. I know it may seem like a lot to go through, but given how so many other details have been tightly guarded, I find it hard to believe that they would essentially reveal the ending right there in broad daylight for the whole world to see. I could be wrong. :whatever:

[Poni_Boy]

Assuming, of course, that it's the "real" ending, and not merely an alternate ending to throw everyone off. I know it may seem like a lot to go through, but given how so many other details have been tightly guarded, I find it hard to believe that they would essentially reveal the ending right there in broad daylight for the whole world to see. I could be wrong. :whatever:

The filmed three very different endings

[warcam]

The filmed three very different endings


A-HA. I knew it. :woot:

That whole scene in Central Park just seemed too "easy".
Poni-Boy: Were they all filmed last year around the same time? Or was one of the endings filmed a few weeks ago during the "re-shoots"?

[BigThor]

What's interesting to note is that even though Whedon said that the Avengers would have to go through hell before achieving victory, if we're to assume that the scene that was shot of the group in Central Park takes place AFTER the NYC Battle, then it doesn't look like that the Avengers only suffered minor to no injuries from their battles because I don't recall seeing any of them having any visible battle scar wounds for that scene.

Yeah that should be a given though, when do superheroes ever receive long lasting injuries or scars during the final battle?

[itchyscratch]

Assuming, of course, that it's the "real" ending, and not merely an alternate ending to throw everyone off. I know it may seem like a lot to go through, but given how so many other details have been tightly guarded, I find it hard to believe that they would essentially reveal the ending right there in broad daylight for the whole world to see. I could be wrong. :whatever:

I agree. It wouldn't surprise me if that was a fake ending to throw all the fans off track.

[BigThor]

^ I believe The Avengers begins with an extended version of Captain America: The First Avenger's ending. It'll be days that separate Captain America's awakening from Loki's return and the Tesseract's theft.

Speaking of which I'd like to see Loki shrugging off bullets or dodging them via teleportation whever Fury & Co. are shooting at him.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Japanese Trailer (http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/)

[marvel_freshman]

Edit

[Oberon sexton]

Thor doesn't go on rage filled "smashing sessions" usually.

Warriors madness . that's a Thor no one wants to **** with!

[marvel_freshman]

Holy ****! http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/

[warcam]

Japanese Trailer (http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/)

:wow: Ho-ly s**t

[ThePowerCosmic]

:wow: Ho-ly s**t

Aliens.
Helicarrier rising out of the water.
PEPPER.

They still managed to have the Aliens while making them hard to identify... Bastards. :cmad:

[Hoblin]

Japanese Trailer (http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/)

Pepper!

[BigThor]

Woah ****, did you all see those aliens coming out of that portal in the beginning?

Oh and f*** Pepper Pots, no one cares about her. :word:

[ThePowerCosmic]

http://i.imgur.com/VbQeD.png

So... beautiful.

[Deejo]

Holy crap. Ok, I have officially seen too much!

[xeno000]

Holy ****! http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/


Awesome! The Helicarrier shot was amazing. And Hawkeye finally spoke!


Can somebody please get this on YouTube? The Yahoo site is a little glitchy for me.

[BigThor]

There was quite alot of Thor action in that trailer, gotdammit why couldn't the US trailer have those scenes. :argh:

He was fighting Loki on top of that building, he hit that car with Mjolnir, and he summoned a lightning bolt near the beginning of the trailer.

:thor::thor::thor:

[eddy]

http://i.imgur.com/VbQeD.png

So... beautiful.

I forgot. Who was it that posted this spoiler back in January? Cause they just got proved right.

[Gamma Burst]

Holy ****! http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/

Amazing stuff!!

[MedinasWorks]

Holy Trailer!!!!! Thor was such a badass!!!! And finally we get a line from Hawkeye!
:thor: :thor:

[rashad]

The Japanese Trailer is just as good if not better than the US one. It features much more spoilers though.

[Hoblin]

Loki STILL throws Stark out of the window so hard that he turns into Cap.

[Guerrilla]

WOAH! that was unexpected. Thor looks so badass!! Helicarrier! Almost too much going on in that. I...woah.

[kvz5]

Holy ****! http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/

LOVE it. :hrt:

[Stringer]

Still hate the rock music used at the end.

[Gamma Burst]

Holy Trailer!!!!! Thor was such a badass!!!! And finally we get a line from Hawkeye!
:thor: :thor:

He was, indeed!:up:

[BigThor]

This trailer >>>> the US trailer

Did you guys see that shot of Black Widow and Hawkeye flying the Quinjet?

[The Caped Knight]

Japanese Trailer (http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/)

OMG that was Outrageous :wow: This trailer made me even more excited now to see the film .

[sabetoonth]

This trailer >>>> the US trailer

Did you guys see that shot of Black Widow and Hawkeye flying the Quinjet?

thought that was Cap?

[PowerPacked]

The Land of the Rising Hellicarrier. :awesome:

[SpideyFan866]

Pepper Potts made me genuinely feel good for the first time today.... and the Helicarrier just gives me my jollies.

[kvz5]

Still hate the rock music used at the end.

Yeah that was the only thing I didn't like about it. The rest was perfection for me.

[Whiskey Tango]

Pepper! Hawkeye speaks! Cobie! Flying helicarrier!

Holy **** that was awesome! What a pleasant surprise.

[Quasimod0]

Wow! I know! So awesome!! I loved it. I was so happy. And really surprised

[steintym]

http://i.imgur.com/VbQeD.png

So... beautiful.

That is simply awesome looking.

[Spideyfan93]

Yay Pepper Potts!

[Quasimod0]

Cap and iron man are in the back of the quinjet!! Thats awesome! Its the frickin avengers baby!

[marvel_freshman]

Thanks to Guhndoi, Hulk/Hawkeye poster in UHQ and Nick Fury/Maria Hill
http://38.imagebam.com/download/x2d21NoQWh0A8pm1A_Fl1w/17985/179846931/The_Avengers_Hulk_original.jpg.jpg
http://58.imagebam.com/download/sVIYiijOCvcP3N26jg-u0g/17985/179846947/The_Avengers_Nick_original.jpg.jpg

[TheVileOne]

Wow that was like a money shot trailer :D

It really is true. Japan does get the best stuff :D .

[Gamma Burst]

Pepper! Hawkeye speaks! Cobie! Flying helicarrier!

Holy **** that was awesome! What a pleasant surprise.

Yeah! Only something like this could cheer me up on a bad day.

[Quasimod0]

Hulk is hairy! I like!

[Nova2113]

hold up... did you guys see those big ass croanies that Hawkeye baseball slides under after he says his one line???

[TheVileOne]

Hawkeye is sliding on the ground between two of the aliens. So that's as good of a close-up shot of them as we will get at this point.

They look to have blue/grey skin with armor and helmets.

[Chewy]

Holy ****! http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-luW7Gd6mnW8/T0dryalmENI/AAAAAAAAAzQ/HcmM7JGWuR0/s1600/shut-up-and-take-my-money-gif.gif

[liveman789]

Looks like Thor will be going one on one with Loki on top of Stark Tower during the final battle.

[BigThor]

Now THAT is how you make an Avengers trailer where ever characters gets a chance to shine, I knew it wasn't that hard to do.

[flickchick85]

Japanese Trailer (http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/)
YEEEESSS! Helicarrier!!!!! The one thing I've been waiting for!

Does anyone have a direct download link for this? I NEED so much of this footage for my next combo trailers.

[Quasimod0]

one of the aliens in falling down with an arrow in his chest. Oh yeah

[Superhero 101]

was that a shot of loki vs thor on a rooftop building?

[mara]

hi! first post! i've been trying to ask someone about the alberta film ratings web site, or rather trailer ratings, "avengers trailer #2" was classified on 2/28 and then we got a trailer #2 soon after. my question is anyone know anything about "trailer #3" that was classified on 3/5? cause we have yet to see official trailer #3 and yet its been classified, sooooo....help? btw, i think i died a moment ago watching japans trailer! sweet! thanks!

[xeno000]

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav1.jpg

[StarkTheProdigy]

Pepper!!!!

[Chewy]

was that a shot of loki vs thor on a rooftop building?
Yes sir

[Whiskey Tango]

one of the aliens in falling down with an arrow in his chest. Oh yeah

"Look Zzrnx! This one is armed with nothing but a primitive stringed projectile! Oh these silly Terrans! Aha ha ha - URK!"

[Rock Sexton]

Damnit I can't jack the video with my download helper ...... I want to be able to see a non-streaming clearer version. :cmad:

[mara]

my screencap says yes

[xeno000]

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav2.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav3.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav16.jpg

[Quasimod0]

"Look Zzrnx! This one is armed with nothing but a primitive stringed projectile! Oh these silly Terrans! Aha ha ha - URK!"
lol, man, thats just crazy. I dont know why I'm so excited to see hawkeye shoot aliens with arrows. Thats just so beast to me

[xeno000]

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav5.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav4.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/avcap.jpg

[Quasimod0]

They sort of resemble frost giants in some shots. In others, they do not.

[xeno000]

hi! first post! i've been trying to ask someone about the alberta film ratings web site, or rather trailer ratings, "avengers trailer #2" was classified on 2/28 and then we got a trailer #2 soon after. my question is anyone know anything about "trailer #3" that was classified on 3/5? cause we have yet to see official trailer #3 and yet its been classified, sooooo....help? btw, i think i died a moment ago watching japans trailer! sweet! thanks!


Welcome to the Hype, mara!


I haven't heard anything about trailer #3 at all. That's interesting. Maybe some news will come out from Marvel's Facebook page or Twitter feeds soon.

[Chewy]

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav5.jpg
When I first watched it I thought that was Sebastian Stan, did a double take

[mara]

Welcome to the Hype, mara!


I haven't heard anything about trailer #3 at all. That's interesting. Maybe some news will come out from Marvel's Facebook page or Twitter feeds soon.

i hope so! i noticed it a few days ago, and cant figure it out.

[xeno000]

"Look Zzrnx! This one is armed with nothing but a primitive stringed projectile! Oh these silly Terrans! Aha ha ha - URK!"


That answers all those people wondering what Hawkeye could do with "just a bow and arrows." What's the use of armor if it leaves most of the body uncovered? Stupid aliens. :o

[flickchick85]

i hope so! i noticed it a few days ago, and cant figure it out.
The runtime of "Trailer #3" matches that of our most recent domestic trailer. "Trailer #2" has a shorter runtime that I believe matches the international trailer (the one with Stark teasing Cap about his costume). It could be that Canadian cinemas got both trailers.

Oh, and welcome to the Hype!

[Suzanne78]

GAH!! I want to make sweet nerd love to those helicarrier shots!

Also, Hawkeye finally gets a line! Loved seeing Pepper again too.

This trailer made me do the ugly cry that it's not May yet.

[xeno000]

It looks like Loki and Thor were fighting atop Stark tower. Perhaps Thor is the one who catches Tony after Loki defenestrates the billionaire. I hope Loki flies unassisted. That would be totally badass.


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav16.jpg

[eddy]

Thanks to Guhndoi, Hulk/Hawkeye poster in UHQ and Nick Fury/Maria Hill
http://38.imagebam.com/download/x2d21NoQWh0A8pm1A_Fl1w/17985/179846931/The_Avengers_Hulk_original.jpg.jpg]

The Hulk looks amazing there!

[herolee10]

Is it weird that I wish even more now after having seen confirmation that Pepper is in this film that we would have gotten Natalie as Jane to cameo in as well?:csad:

[mara]

The runtime of "Trailer #3" matches that of our most recent domestic trailer. "Trailer #2" has a shorter runtime that I believe matches the international trailer (the one with Stark teasing Cap about his costume). It could be that Canadian cinemas got both trailers.

Oh, and welcome to the Hype!

Ah. That's possible.
Thanks. :yay:

[ImWithTeamConan]

Anyone able to put this on YouTube? I'm stuck on my iPhone till tomorrow

[TheVileOne]

Who was expecting this on a Wednesday of all things?

[The Caped Knight]

I wonder with the appearance of Pepper , if we will see Jane Foster as well in a scene with Thor .

[Optimus27932]

Anybody knows if or when this Jap Avengers trailer will be on youtube?

[Crimson King]

It looks like Loki and Thor were fighting atop Stark tower. Perhaps Thor is the one who catches Tony after Loki defenestrates the billionaire. I hope Loki flies unassisted. That would be totally badass.


I hope not. That would make twice in the same movie that IM had to get caught in mid-air. I'm pulling for Tony to call up a suit to save him.

[quara33]

It looks like Loki and Thor were fighting atop Stark tower. Perhaps Thor is the one who catches Tony after Loki defenestrates the billionaire.


Man, defenestrates is such an awesome word. :woot:

[herolee10]

I wonder with the appearance of Pepper , if we will see Jane Foster as well in a scene with Thor .

I would be pleasantly surprised to see that since it'd save me the trouble of having to wait an extra year to see those two reunited on screen, and it would solve a potential plot hole in not having him see her right away when he gets the chance considering that his solo film ended with that note.

[TheVileOne]

Can someone just please post a Daniel Bryan YES! pic already to show what I am feeling right now?

[darkslayer101]

Who was expecting this on a Wednesday of all things?

no one in the universe was expecting this lol...

[BobbyCorwin88]

I wonder if Hawkeye ever puts on the shades? It looks pretty good in the stills!

I wasn't really overwhelmed by trailer 3. It was cool to see new footage, but trailer 2 flows a lot better. And yes I'm critiquing trailers now. It has come to this.

[darkslayer101]

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav5.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/japav4.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/GIFs/avcap.jpg

awesome cameo...
cant w8 who else is gonna cameo in this movie

[Rock Sexton]

I would be pleasantly surprised to see that since it'd save me the trouble of having to wait an extra year to see those two reunited on screen, and it would solve a potential plot hole in not having him see her right away when he gets the chance considering that his solo film ended with that note.

God you guys are so obsessed with that. LOL.

When the fate of an entire planet is on the line and you're trying to capture your long lost brother, the girl whom you knew all of 2 days can wait.