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Lencho01
03-22-2012, 02:02 PM
I'm pretty sure neither were involved with the 1987 cartoon. Laird wasn't involved with NM, since the two creators had a pretty massive falling out before then. Laird was, however, heavily involved in the 2000s era cartoon that was pretty good.

Oh, I see. I didn't know when they went their separate ways. I read they didn't like Bepop and Rocksteady, so that's why they weren't in the second film. I wasn't sure if that was just something they didn't like about the cartoon and thus didn't have it in the film.

I know Laird was involved with the 2k3 toon and it that's why it turned out well. I still feel it and the first film are a good template of what can be done with the new film as far as tone goes. TMNT seemed to try to do that. I stopped watching early on with Fast Foward. Don't know how it ended up. Same with Back to the Sewer.

Mindreaper21
03-22-2012, 02:07 PM
TMNT deserves it's own forum. This is too huge for just a couple of threads.

Carnage27
03-22-2012, 02:11 PM
I know Laird was involved with the 2k3 toon and it that's why it turned out well. I still feel it and the first film are a good template of what can be done with the new film as far as tone goes. TMNT seemed to try to do that. I stopped watching early on with Fast Foward. Don't know how it ended up. Same with Back to the Sewer.

I think TMNT was a GREAT movie. Second best incarnation of the Turtles in film or TV, IMO. Unfortunately it suffered from being made by an unknown animation studio and a new villain no one had ever heard of.

But IMO it does the best job of making the Turtles their own. In the original film, Donnie was a bit too much like Mikey, and Leo was insufferable at times. But TMNT did them all perfectly.

Octoberist
03-22-2012, 02:16 PM
I hated TMNT's animation but that's just me. It was okay though the story could have go down a different direction.

bullets
03-22-2012, 02:19 PM
I think it's should have it's own section :up:


Fans should also be vocal if they have a valid concern. Last time fans were vocal , Michael Bay removed the twins from Transformers 3 , I believe.


I really hope Casey Jones shows up. Him and Ralph were always my favorites.

At some point they definitely need to bring in Casey Jones.


Sign a petition or something or stop watching movies if you hate feeling like a "sucker".

You would have to get a lot of people to do that for it to truly work. I think the script probably revolves so much around their space origin that they would have to scrap everything. What are the chances they would do that?

Project862006
03-22-2012, 02:19 PM
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES Creator Kevin Eastman Praises Michael Bay's Vision


Kevin Eastman - "Hey Guys, Sorry to have been away for so long--completely swamped with work--but it is some pretty exciting stuff. I had been invited to check out the TMNT film development by my friend Scott Mednick over the years, and a while back had a full look behind the curtian at what writers Appelbaum and Nemec, director Liebesman, and producer Bay are doing--and trust me--it IS AWESOME. I'm officially on board, and will share more as I'm allowed... thanks all!"

Carnage27
03-22-2012, 02:19 PM
I hated TMNT's animation but that's just me. It was okay though the story could have go down a different direction.

It didn't have the polish of Pixar, that's for sure. But I'd rank it close to some of Dreamworks' stuff from the time.

Carnage27
03-22-2012, 02:20 PM
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES Creator Kevin Eastman Praises Michael Bay's Vision

I posted that a few hours ago.

Lencho01
03-22-2012, 02:25 PM
I think TMNT was a GREAT movie. Second best incarnation of the Turtles in film or TV, IMO. Unfortunately it suffered from being made by an unknown animation studio and a new villain no one had ever heard of.

But IMO it does the best job of making the Turtles their own. In the original film, Donnie was a bit too much like Mikey, and Leo was insufferable at times. But TMNT did them all perfectly.

I hated TMNT's animation but that's just me. It was okay though the story could have go down a different direction.

I liked it it a lot. I thought it would've been better to have used some other villian or one who truly was one. I liked the animation, but saw it would've been great if they had a bigger budget. I liked the turtle designs and how each one was slightly different like Raph having the biggest muscles or Leo standing a little bit taller than the rest. Same with their faces. The humans were ok. I really loved that they got actual voice actors for the turtles at least. Didn't see much need for "celebs" or whatever as the humans.

Plus, they gave us this...

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Carnage27
03-22-2012, 02:26 PM
Plus, they gave us this...

5wD27S58FHw

In all honesty one of my favorite scenes ever.:woot:

Frodo
03-22-2012, 02:27 PM
And Laird was a bit snarky about it ,so I guess both sides I have something.Lol.

craigdbfan
03-22-2012, 02:27 PM
That comment by Eastman also solidifies that Liebesman did get the job and is already past "final negotiations" as I and others suspected.

Carnage27
03-22-2012, 02:30 PM
And Laird was a bit snarky about it ,so I guess both sides I have something.Lol.

Laird has been snarky ever since Paramount/Nickelodeon acquired the property.

But on the same token, Eastman is actively involved with the property at this point with the comics, so he's not the most unbiased source. Though I do hope he's being sincere.

That comment by Eastman also solidifies that Liebesman did get the job and is already past "final negotiations" as I and others suspected.

Yea. I don't think he's a terrible choice. Far from my number 1 choice. But he's not terrible.

bullets
03-22-2012, 03:04 PM
In all honesty one of my favorite scenes ever.:woot:


I was surprised how well the cgi looked in TMNT (2007). I think it would of been cool to see a sequel to that even though I'm glad they are returning to live action.

Lencho01
03-22-2012, 03:47 PM
In all honesty one of my favorite scenes ever.:woot:

I was surprised how well the cgi looked in TMNT (2007). I think it would of been cool to see a sequel to that even though I'm glad they are returning to live action.

It was such a great scene. The close up on their eyes before the fight is my favorite part.

I too wanted a sequel and the hint of Karai being Shredder was nice. Well, I think that was the hint anyway.

Thundercrack85
03-22-2012, 04:00 PM
The Turtles have evolved a lot since the early comics. Hell, what made them world famous was the eighties cartoon, followed by the nineties movie. So, obviously the creators, created them, but a lot of the franchise's success is the work of other people as well.

Octoberist
03-22-2012, 04:12 PM
Laird has been snarky ever since Paramount/Nickelodeon acquired the property.

But on the same token, Eastman is actively involved with the property at this point with the comics, so he's not the most unbiased source. Though I do hope he's being sincere.



Yea. I don't think he's a terrible choice. Far from my number 1 choice. But he's not terrible.


According to collider.com, a site that I really like, they heard its way better than the first 'Clash'.

spider-neil
03-22-2012, 04:37 PM
love, love, LOVED the TMNT animated movie. absolutely love the set up of the tention between raph and leo and the pay off of the fight. the action is top class and I even liked the chessy plot of finding the 12 beasts. I love this far more than I liked the original live action movie but the turtles move and fight like I imagine them to move and fight



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'THAT' is how I imagine the turtles to move and only the animated movie has given me what I want

craigdbfan
03-22-2012, 04:58 PM
I also really enjoyed TMNT 07. I thought it was a very well done movie and was pleasantly surprised by it.

camp Blood
03-22-2012, 05:02 PM
i wonder if bay had registration to his forum turned off because people were criticizing him

the new tmnt was ok but not as good as the old live action film. i enjoyed the conflict between leo and raph

Blue Sugar
03-22-2012, 06:49 PM
Personally I didn't like TMNT all that much.

And yeah Turtles definitely deserves their own forum here.

Vaibow
03-22-2012, 07:21 PM
What if scientists extract 4 eggs from an Alien planet.. They hatch into 'normal' turtles!! Only to show human qualities as they rapidly excel!!? Something goes wrong at labs, they get set free, an old ninja looks after them and guides them? Splinter is human! but is known as a 'rat' as a bit of a bum living rough! He has a beard, long hair pony tail, kinda whiskers in his beard! He has history with shredder and the foot clan? That I could accept!

DaveMoral
03-22-2012, 07:51 PM
You know what bothers me about a lot of the art posted in the precursor to this thread? Most of it is just convoluted, amped up, 'roid freak versions of TMNT characters because that's what all the Red Bull swilling freaks are into. Same with the attempts at "realistic" portrayals of the Turtles. Why? It takes away from the charm of them IMO.

Thundercrack85
03-22-2012, 08:08 PM
I've seen some "amped up" art that captures them fairly well.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/83789/1774300-nebezial.jpg

Paroxysm
03-22-2012, 08:12 PM
You know what bothers me about a lot of the art posted in the precursor to this thread? Most of it is just convoluted, amped up, 'roid freak versions of TMNT characters because that's what all the Red Bull swilling freaks are into.


Same with the attempts at "realistic" portrayals of the Turtles. Why? It takes away from the charm of them IMO.

http://www.theoriginof.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/tmnt.jpg

They've always been jacked. lol

camp Blood
03-22-2012, 08:52 PM
seriously

MessiahDecoy123
03-22-2012, 09:23 PM
lol, Camp Blood.

That's the best avvy I've seen in some time.

Carnage27
03-22-2012, 09:36 PM
Not necessarily on topic, but Krang was talked about on 30 Rock tonight.

camp Blood
03-22-2012, 09:44 PM
thanks. gearing up for the new season this sunday

louiebling$
03-22-2012, 11:20 PM
Yes we need our own forum

The /
03-22-2012, 11:45 PM
All of this talk of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Krang, Dimension X, etc. lately has me wanting to revisit the '87 cartoon. I haven't watched it since I was a kid. And I actually do have the first three DVD volumes of the show, so I guess it's time to crack them open and have a marathon. I'll be on memory lane for quite awhile, I'm sure.

bullets
03-22-2012, 11:59 PM
I might get some of the early seasons. I had season five on dvd but traded it in. Not bad for a nostalgia trip but doesn't hold up as well , imo.
They actually released the 9th and final season not too long ago.




i wonder if bay had registration to his forum turned off because people were criticizing him

He knew a wave of people would register to complain. It might of been a smart move on his part but the thread I saw seemed full of ass kissers. I couldn't stand it and I like Michael Bay. So I won't waste my time there.

Project862006
03-23-2012, 12:05 AM
ass kissers?

opposed to what

haters?

MessiahDecoy123
03-23-2012, 12:46 AM
Usually the word "hater" burns a little. Just a smudge.

But compared to "brown noser" it's a flat out compliment.

bullets
03-23-2012, 12:49 AM
ass kissers?

opposed to what

haters?


You'd have to read through it. It's like the man can do no wrong over there and anything he says or does is pure gold. If you disagree with anything you'll be considered a hater. There needs to be some type of middle ground.

obin_gam
03-23-2012, 03:16 AM
Doug Walker (That guy with the glasses) gives his view (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/34667-why-ninja-turtles-should-be-aliens) and I gotta say, he makes some damn good points :D

spider-neil
03-23-2012, 04:28 AM
The original series is before my time so my turtles are the '03 version. I saw the original turtles in 'turtles forever' they come across a just plain silly. Also the original live action is rooted in the '80s and I think fans are looking at it through Rose tinted glasses. The tmnt characterisation and movement is far greater but admittedly the plot (for tmnt '07) is a little cheesy

Marvin
03-23-2012, 08:30 AM
This property has it's high points and it's low points, as usual bay(even as producer) will make the property viable and popular again for a new generation only to have a lot of people claim it's the lowest point the property has ever seen.

go ninja go ninja go.

Nathan
03-23-2012, 08:36 AM
This property has it's high points and it's low points, as usual bay(even as producer) will make the property viable and popular again for a new generation only to have a lot of people claim it's the lowest point the property has ever seen.

go ninja go ninja go.

As seen in Transformers, all it takes to make it "popular" again, is to throw in tons of hot women, racial stereotypes, bat***** insane people and of course explosions.

MessiahDecoy123
03-23-2012, 08:54 AM
This property has it's high points and it's low points, as usual bay(even as producer) will make the property viable and popular again for a new generation only to have a lot of people claim it's the lowest point the property has ever seen.

go ninja go ninja go.

Popularity isn't everything.

I'd take a one, classic Transformers movie that I'm proud to show my kids, awakens my inner child, and extends my love for Transformers than have 5 loud, redundant and completely disposable movies that most people use as an example of Hollywood's greed and laziness.

Marvin
03-23-2012, 09:39 AM
As seen in Transformers, all it takes to make it "popular" again, is to throw in tons of hot women, racial stereotypes, bat***** insane people and of course explosions.

If you think it's simply about hot chicks and explosions than that peaks my curiosity as to why every film with said aspect doesn't achieve the success it does. Moreover if you think it's the only film that has said aspects again wrong. I've brought up the Marvel films before as well as the James bond series and the list goes on and on. It's always amazing to see the blinder effect when it comes to this series.

Popularity isn't everything.

I'd take a one, classic Transformers movie that I'm proud to show my kids, awakens my inner child, and extends my love for Transformers than have 5 loud, redundant and completely disposable movies that most people use as an example of Hollywood's greed and laziness.

Everyone has there opinion, if the "majority" actually thought that, then the films wouldn't do as well as they do and will continue to do. Sure, sometimes films no one likes pass the 3 quarter bill mark but, with the exception of a mega padded franchise of star wars ilk, that usually doesn't happen. From fast five to inception to gi joe, I refuse to accept that returns are misleading.

As for all that talk of inner children. It's a great point to bring up that this series was always made by the youngsters and I'm sure if they all had the means to express how they feel about what's they think about the series it would be slightly different than they're cynical adult counterparts. Take this kid for example.

R70VULksEDM

I'm sure if you ask him why the film is "popular" he will give just as cynical an answer and then compare it to the untouchable classics and see absolutely no value or substance in them.

If "most" people think that every aspect of the transformers productions are lazy, I'd hate to see what they think of the likes of 21 jump street(last I checked it had pot jokes and insane people and hot chicks. A concise and smart story is not all it takes to make a film not lazy.

Frodo
03-23-2012, 09:41 AM
The original series is before my time so my turtles are the '03 version. I saw the original turtles in 'turtles forever' they come across a just plain silly. Also the original live action is rooted in the '80s and I think fans are looking at it through Rose tinted glasses. The tmnt characterisation and movement is far greater but admittedly the plot (for tmnt '07) is a little cheesy

Well, to be fair, you see everything through rose colored glasses when you're a child . Truth be told however, I really didn't find the' 03 turtles so drastically different from the original 1990 film or even the cartoon. I mean, its not like comparing Batman Robin to The Dark Knight.

Die hard TMNT fans may disagree ,but as someone without deep loyality to either version , I gotta say , there really isn't that great a difference beyond the loook and the times they were made in.

The guys have pretty much been the same since they appeared on TV in the 80's and i've yet to see any TV or movie version which has really done a 180 on the characters or tone. And to be fair to Bay, his description, aside from the alien idea, sounds pretty close to what the characters are so I doubt he's gonna do anything radical in terms of that aspect.

Casius--J
03-23-2012, 09:47 AM
Doug Walker (That guy with the glasses) gives his view (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/34667-why-ninja-turtles-should-be-aliens) and I gotta say, he makes some damn good points :D

Oh man that video was so funny, and you're right he made some good points which I didn't see before.

When I first heard the news about them being aliens I was like :doh: Not interested and I'm out!

Now that I've had time to calm down a little I feel a lot more open to giving it a chance. I want to see how everything comes along first before I make final judgements because basically I just love the Turtles, always have and always will so I want the best for them. However if I get the Transformers vibe I'll probably won't bother watching it until its on dvd or something.

I guess its just see how it goes, it could turn out good but right now I highly doubt it.

Lencho01
03-23-2012, 10:18 AM
love, love, LOVED the TMNT animated movie. absolutely love the set up of the tention between raph and leo and the pay off of the fight. the action is top class and I even liked the chessy plot of finding the 12 beasts. I love this far more than I liked the original live action movie but the turtles move and fight like I imagine them to move and fight



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'THAT' is how I imagine the turtles to move and only the animated movie has given me what I want

I really liked that trailer. I thought this fan one was good...

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spider-neil
03-23-2012, 10:42 AM
Well, to be fair, you see everything through rose colored glasses when you're a child . Truth be told however, I really didn't find the' 03 turtles so drastically different from the original 1990 film or even the cartoon. I mean, its not like comparing Batman Robin to The Dark Knight.

Die hard TMNT fans may disagree ,but as someone without deep loyality to either version , I gotta say , there really isn't that great a difference beyond the loook and the times they were made in.

The guys have pretty much been the same since they appeared on TV in the 80's and i've yet to see any TV or movie version which has really done a 180 on the characters or tone. And to be fair to Bay, his description, aside from the alien idea, sounds pretty close to what the characters are so I doubt he's gonna do anything radical in terms of that aspect.

I do give credit to the original cartoon for the coloured masks, that is a good addition which the '03 version kept but thankfully they lost the lettered belt buckles.

Blue Sugar
03-23-2012, 10:48 AM
Turtles Forever ftw. Though they made the 80s Turtles a bit too silly at times. They weren't like that all the time in the series. And I love the 1990 film, I even think it's underrated, doesn't have that genre-classic status it deserves.

Here is how I would rank the feature films of Turtles

1. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (4/5)
2. Turtles Forever (4/5)
3. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Secret of the Ooze (3/5)
4. TMNT (2/5)
5. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 (1/5)

jaymes_e06
03-23-2012, 10:59 AM
Thinking of TMNT I was randomly talking to my friends about them and thought about the series in the 90s when there was a girl turtle from japan named Venus. Anyone else remember that show? Because my friends didn't believe me.

Thebumwhowalks
03-23-2012, 11:01 AM
So, what he is doing is giving them Howard the Duck's origin?
It could be good, I dunno, it does open the scope for the stories.
I'm not any kind of TMNT fan though, I liked the cartoon show back in the day, and I even bought a bootleg copy of the 1st live action movie as soon as i could, liked it a lot, but it wasn't a franchise that I hooked onto in a way that was long term, so I guess I can't really judge how this change must feel to a true fan of the series, so I can sympathise with fans who are outraged.
But, I must admit to having some amusement at this turn of events, why? Because it is Micheal Bay, the guy who has the most hate posted about him on message boards like this. Of all the people to have talked about changing a world famous brand and invoking the ire of fans, it had to be him.

Lencho01
03-23-2012, 11:30 AM
http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-interview/154499/


Director Jonathan Liebesman Talks TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES Reboot; Addresses “Alien Race” Comments and Hints at Motion-Capture for Turtles

by Steve 'Frosty' Weintraub (http://collider.com/author/steve-weintraub/) Posted:March 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 am

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Jonathan-Liebesman-TMNT-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-interview-slice2.jpg
Michael Bay caused quite the hubbub the other day with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (http://collider.com/tag/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles) fans. He’s producing a new iteration of the lovable characters in the form of a live-action reboot directed by Jonathan Liebesman (Wrath of the Titans). Said hubbub was caused when Bay commented that the turtles (http://collider.com/michael-bay-responds-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/153490/) in the reboot would be “from an alien race.” Fans were perplexed given that the word “mutant” is right in the title of the series, and “alien race” would imply that these new martial arts-inclined turtles weren’t mutated, but are actually extra terrestrial beings.

Steve got the chance to speak with Liebesman at the press junket for Wrath of the Titans (http://collider.com/tag/wrath-of-the-titans) earlier today and the director took the time to clear the air about his version of TMNT. He addressed the “alien race” comments, talked about his approach to the characters, revealed whether they’re thinking CGI or practical effects to bring the turtles to life, and said when he thinks they’ll start filming and where. Hit the jump to see what he had to say.


Regarding the “alien race” comments, Liebesman said the “alien” aspect actually comes straight from the series:
“Look, it’s so funny—if everyone was such a die-hard fan, they would know that the TCRI canisters where the ooze comes from. That is alien ooze. Now I’m not saying what Michael said is exactly what the movie is, because we’ (http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-interview/154499/#)re sitting in a room now figuring everything out. So we don’t know, but we are like Michael said: we’re expanding it, and the expansion will be true to the mythology. I promise you: fans will love it.”
While it still sounds early in the development process, it appears the whole “alien” aspect may simply be referring to the ooze that mutates the turtles. As Liebesman said, they’re still working out the concept so things could definitely change. He stressed that TMNT comics co-creator Kevin Eastman is working alongside him, so they’re not exactly throwing the series mythology out the window:
“Whatever mythology we’re building on or expanding is coming from that guy, Kevin Eastman’s head, who created the Turtles in the first place. And so everything will tie in with the mythology; fans will be extremely excited with what we’re coming up with. A lot of it is stuff he’s wanted to do for a long time, but just hasn’t had the opportunity because now we have the budget and things on this film to expand it in the right way. And so, I’m happy that everyone is extremely passionate, and they will not be disappointed. It’s all coming from the best possible place for this franchise (http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-interview/154499/#).”
When asked if the turtles would be practical or CGI, Liebesman hinted that they may be done similar to another recent visual effects-laden project:
“All I’ll say is that I love how they did [The Rise of the Planet of the Apes]. That was exceptional.”
I think this is a great way to go, and if Liebesman can bring Weta Digital (http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-interview/154499/#) in to create photorealistic turtles then I think we’ll be in for a visually stunning TMNT. The director also stressed that the film won’t be entirely about action:
“We’re definitely into the action, but for me what’s more important than that is that it’s a story about brotherhood and friendship and responsibility. Right now, I’m with the characters because those are what attracted me to the movie (http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-interview/154499/#). They’re the best characters I’ll have had a chance to deal with.”
Liebesman also revealed that they’ll probably be shooting later this year (“September, or something”) and they’re thinking about shooting in Canada. I’m not necessarily a die-hard TMNT fan, but I think I can live with the fact that the ooze in the reboot comes from an “alien race.” Having the turtles themselves be aliens would be pushing it, but if Liebesman’s comments are to be taken to heart then I think fans will be alright in the end.

Here’s the portion of Steve’s interview on TMNT. Look for the full interview next week and make sure to leave your thoughts in the comments below.

terry78
03-23-2012, 11:35 AM
OK, Liebsman is making me feel better. And WETA for full on mo-cap turtles? I will support that fully.

Whiskey Tango
03-23-2012, 11:44 AM
“Look, it’s so funny—if everyone was such a die-hard fan, they would know that the TCRI canisters where the ooze comes from. That is alien ooze."

While it still sounds early in the development process, it appears the whole “alien” aspect may simply be referring to the ooze that mutates the turtles.

If that's the angle they're going for then it's acceptable. And I would love to get Weta in on this, imagine a fight scene on a NY rooftop or subway with the turtles and hundreds of ninjas! And if the turtles look as good as Gollum or Caesar? Hell yes.

Paroxysm
03-23-2012, 11:45 AM
http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-interview/154499/

:up:

sweetre15
03-23-2012, 11:48 AM
:up:

I'm not letting my guard down a bit but maybe I can ease up just a tad after reading that....

Eddie Dean
03-23-2012, 12:00 PM
Has this been posted?

http://teamcoco.com/video/michael-bey-tmnt

Mindreaper21
03-23-2012, 12:01 PM
Finally, someone is making sense. Bay just opened his stupid mouth too early, as usual. If this turns out to be anywhere near as good as Rise of the Planet of the Apes, then I am down. I wonder what species of turtle they will be based on if we get some photorealistic Turtles.

sweetre15
03-23-2012, 12:04 PM
http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-interview/154499/

If there's anything that he said that I liked, it's this:

We’re definitely into the action, but for me what’s more important than that is that it’s a story about brotherhood and friendship and responsibility. Right now, I’m with the characters because those are what attracted me to the movie. They’re the best characters I’ll have had a chance to deal with.”

If they incorporate the "outcast" aspect of their characters then it can really good

Marvin
03-23-2012, 12:10 PM
Omg a word from the actual director of the film? Expanding on a factual to production and canon single line statement from the producer....it's going to be a long year, of that much I'm sure.

Funny how the one co creator that is being consulted sings praise and possibilities whilst the other co creator that has been left out makes sarcastic back handed comments.

Wait and see, otherwise end up speaking too early and looking stupid...ie the Mikey voice actor.

When it's perceived as a bad change it's coming out of bays head, when it's a positive decision such as weta moCap or pretty much every JL said in that interview it's not Bay.

Stringer
03-23-2012, 12:27 PM
Maybe those comments will calm people down some, but I doubt it.

Mr. Wooden Alligator
03-23-2012, 12:31 PM
I'm tired of Leo and Ralph always butting heads. Give Mikey and Donnie something to do to develop their characters.

Whiskey Tango
03-23-2012, 12:33 PM
When it's perceived as a bad change it's coming out of bays head, when it's a positive decision such as weta moCap or pretty much every JL said in that interview it's not Bay.

When Bay's running his mouth saying stupid **** like 'they're from alien race lol' you bet your ass it's perceived as bad.

louiebling$
03-23-2012, 12:37 PM
Yes...looks like the are going with the REAL origins of the turtles!

And man....Bay worked us.....he knew exactly what he was doing saying Alien Race and throwing us for a loop.......bastard

roach
03-23-2012, 12:37 PM
Omg a word from the actual director of the film? Expanding on a factual to production and canon single line statement from the producer....it's going to be a long year, of that much I'm sure.

Funny how the one co creator that is being consulted sings praise and possibilities whilst the other co creator that has been left out makes sarcastic back handed comments.

Wait and see, otherwise end up speaking too early and looking stupid...ie the Mikey voice actor.

When it's perceived as a bad change it's coming out of bays head, when it's a positive decision such as weta moCap or pretty much every JL said in that interview it's not Bay.

i tried to tell people to relax and see how its handled

jaymes_e06
03-23-2012, 12:41 PM
When Bay's running his mouth saying stupid **** like 'they're from alien race lol' you bet your ass it's perceived as bad.

Exactly! He needs a muzzle.

Marvin
03-23-2012, 12:42 PM
Haven't seen people care about the turtles this much since the late 80's.

Fanboys are a tricky lot and it seems Bay is a man that understands them most. He's somewhere making a troll face this very moment.

Marvin
03-23-2012, 12:45 PM
When Bay's running his mouth saying stupid **** like 'they're from alien race lol' you bet your ass it's perceived as bad.

The only running of the mouth has been by fanboys bashing hollywood for thinking filmmakers don't get their saturday morning toy commercials. I wouldn't call what bay presented a running of the mouth.

Moreover, my point wasn't about the reaction to what he said it was about the assigning of blame and credit. Like I said before this will be even more evident with Snyder and Nolan on Superman. Just as it was with Bay and Spielberg.

Paroxysm
03-23-2012, 12:46 PM
Yay!!! No more pissing and moaning!!!

roach
03-23-2012, 12:46 PM
Bay is a smart man...he made comment and made the Turtles trending in the Twittersphere...free publicity...I am sure I called the back pedal when this first came out

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 12:47 PM
Bay is a smart man...he made comment and made the Turtles trending in the Twittersphere...free publicity...I am sure I called the back pedal when this first came out

He's both a smart man and a douche

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 12:48 PM
I'm tired of Leo and Ralph always butting heads. Give Mikey and Donnie something to do to develop their characters.

I definitely agree with that. We don't need another Raphael-Leo conflict.

In the IDW run (I know I keep referring back to that) Leo and Donnie have been butting heads. I think it would be an interesting dynamic to bring to the screen.

And it's good to hear from Liebesman. I always assumed they would go the "Rise of the Planet..." with the Turtles in this one. Any other choice would be foolish. And any other choice other than WETA for the effects would be foolish.

And I hope it is the TCRI origin, but I'll believe it when I see it. But honestly, hearing from the director is always a good thing.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 12:57 PM
I definitely agree with that. We don't need another Raphael-Leo conflict.

In the IDW run (I know I keep referring back to that) Leo and Donnie have been butting heads. I think it would be an interesting dynamic to bring to the screen.

And it's good to hear from Liebesman. I always assumed they would go the "Rise of the Planet..." with the Turtles in this one. Any other choice would be foolish. And any other choice other than WETA for the effects would be foolish.

And I hope it is the TCRI origin, but I'll believe it when I see it. But honestly, hearing from the director is always a good thing.

I think that each member of the TMNT are still finding their place both as a team and as brothers.

I think Donnie is butting heads because is that he thinks everyone is quick to fight while Mikey is frustrated because no one ever takes him seriously because he's the youngest. And a little dumb.

Also I think they need to expand in the concept of being 'alone' with potentially Donnie and Mike fighting for Apri's love!

Marvin
03-23-2012, 12:58 PM
Turtles are trending on twitter lol.

Whiskey Tango
03-23-2012, 12:58 PM
Yay!!! No more pissing and moaning!!!

yeah right.

jaymes_e06
03-23-2012, 12:59 PM
Bay is a smart man...he made comment and made the Turtles trending in the Twittersphere...free publicity...I am sure I called the back pedal when this first came out
.....or he just really has no ****ing idea what's going on.

Paroxysm
03-23-2012, 01:00 PM
Turtles are trending on twitter lol.

haha awesome.

Whiskey Tango
03-23-2012, 01:00 PM
He's both a smart man and a douche

But mostly douche.

it's cute how some of yall are portraying him as some genius mastermind though. Dr. Doom he ain't.

roach
03-23-2012, 01:02 PM
.....or he just really has no ****ing idea what's going on.

no he's smart...and a douche...in one day he did one thing Disney couldn't do with John Carter....made people care...

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 01:02 PM
I think that each member of the TMNT are still finding their place both as a team and as brothers.

I think Donnie is butting heads because is that he thinks everyone is quick to fight while Mikey is frustrated because no one ever takes him seriously because he's the youngest. And a little dumb.

Also I think they need to expand in the concept of being 'alone' with potentially Donnie and Mike fighting for Apri's love!

I like everything...except for that last part. For the love of all that is holy no Turtles trying to actively pursue April! If they're doing it in a jokey sarcastic sense, sure. But please not serious. She's the big sister of the group, not a love interest.

Turtles are trending on twitter lol.

It blows my mind. I never would have expected all this attention.

Lencho01
03-23-2012, 01:03 PM
Has this been posted?

http://teamcoco.com/video/michael-bey-tmnt

:hehe:

I'm tired of Leo and Ralph always butting heads. Give Mikey and Donnie something to do to develop their characters.

Agreed.

I definitely agree with that. We don't need another Raphael-Leo conflict.

In the IDW run (I know I keep referring back to that) Leo and Donnie have been butting heads. I think it would be an interesting dynamic to bring to the screen.

And it's good to hear from Liebesman. I always assumed they would go the "Rise of the Planet..." with the Turtles in this one. Any other choice would be foolish. And any other choice other than WETA for the effects would be foolish.

And I hope it is the TCRI origin, but I'll believe it when I see it. But honestly, hearing from the director is always a good thing.

Interesting. What's the deal with Leo and Donny?

I really did like the idea of Where the Wild Things Are route.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 01:04 PM
.....or he just really has no ****ing idea what's going on.

No, Bay is smart. He makes crappy films, but he's a smart guy. He knew what he was doing.

Iron_Stark
03-23-2012, 01:04 PM
Well that interview made me feel better, alien ooze like the comics is great, alien turtles, go F- yourself Mr. Bay.

roach
03-23-2012, 01:04 PM
But mostly douche.

it's cute how some of yall are portraying him as some genius mastermind though. Dr. Doom he ain't.

not claiming he's a genius mastermind...but this isn't the first time he did this.
Go back to my first post in this thread...I called this

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 01:07 PM
Interesting. What's the deal with Leo and Donny?

IDW continuity spoilers ahead:

In the new comics, there's a reincarnation thread running through the Turtles/Splinter's origin, saying that the Turtles are the sons of Hamato Yoshi and Splinter is Hamato Yoshi reincarnated after they were murdered by the Shredder in Feudal Japan.

Splinter tells the boys this and Donnie thinks it's not logicval, while Leo obviously believes Splinter.

Also, Donnie is a bit of a jerk because he's the smartest.

Whiskey Tango
03-23-2012, 01:08 PM
...I called this

So did a lot of us. Big deal.

roach
03-23-2012, 01:09 PM
then why act as if they kicked your dog if you knew they were doing this for publicity?

dark_b
03-23-2012, 01:09 PM
Liebesman is the definition of hollywood heck. i bow down to him.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88333

i gave him a chance to make a low budget personal movie or a smart scifi/fantasy movie.but he decided that he wants to make stupid expensive movies. ok . fine.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 01:15 PM
Liebesman is the definition of hollywood heck. i bow down to him.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88333

i gave him a chance to make a low budget personal movie or a smart scifi/fantasy movie.but he decided that he wants to make stupid expensive movies. ok . fine.

I'm confused...do you not like him or do you like him?

From what he's been saying, I feel comfortable with him directing the film.

jaymes_e06
03-23-2012, 01:18 PM
no he's smart...and a douche...in one day he did one thing Disney couldn't do with John Carter....made people care...
True. So true...

Paroxysm
03-23-2012, 01:19 PM
But mostly douche.

it's cute how some of yall are portraying him as some genius mastermind though. Dr. Doom he ain't.

No one is, you're the one with the hang ups about Bay, maybe now that you've read the news you'll chill out and sleep better at night?

So did a lot of us. Big deal.

Us? you were not one of them. lol

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 01:23 PM
No one is, you're the one with the hang ups about Bay, maybe now that you've read the news you'll chill out and sleep better at night?



Us? you were not one of them. lol

No there was some

Lencho01
03-23-2012, 01:24 PM
IDW continuity spoilers ahead:

In the new comics, there's a reincarnation thread running through the Turtles/Splinter's origin, saying that the Turtles are the sons of Hamato Yoshi and Splinter is Hamato Yoshi reincarnated after they were murdered by the Shredder in Feudal Japan.

Splinter tells the boys this and Donnie thinks it's not logicval, while Leo obviously believes Splinter.

Also, Donnie is a bit of a jerk because he's the smartest.

That sounds kinda cool. So, is Shredder a legacy title then?

Donny as a jerk because he's smart seems kinda amusing.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 01:24 PM
Liebesman is the definition of hollywood heck. i bow down to him.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88333

i gave him a chance to make a low budget personal movie or a smart scifi/fantasy movie.but he decided that he wants to make stupid expensive movies. ok . fine.

I'm confused too

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 01:29 PM
That sounds kinda cool. So, is Shredder a legacy title then?

Unknown. He hasn't been seen yet. I'd imagine he'd be a reincarnated Oroku Saki or somehow immortal though. So far the main bad guy is Krang, with Baxter Stockman and Old Hob, who is a mutated alley cat with a grudge against Splinter.

terry78
03-23-2012, 01:30 PM
I think it's cool they're turning Don into kind of an insufferable genius. The geek and nerds of today honestly are just as huge of a-holes as some of the people that bully them. That whole "you're just not smart enough to get it" thing.

Marvin
03-23-2012, 01:32 PM
Well that interview made me feel better, alien ooze like the comics is great, alien turtles, go F- yourself Mr. Bay.

So a week ago this film sucking was bay's fault, and a week later when it has some promise it's not bays fault. Either it's his film or it isn't. Decide.

A producer that probably doesn't have any part of the creative meetings at this point misspeaking on a film early in development and technically still being right is something very common. Looking back on the recent history of this thread I'd say not many people called it no.

Bays name got people talking, as funny as that may be marketing is big business in hollywood. Everyone that tries to make fun of it just ends up part of the machine. NOTE the crowed reaction Conan got when he presented his joke. The same reaction critics have when the numbers come in.

roach
03-23-2012, 01:36 PM
So a week ago this film sucking was bay's fault, and a week later when it has some promise it's not bays fault. Either it's his film or it isn't. Decide.

A producer that probably doesn't have any part of the creative meetings at this point misspeaking on a film early in development and technically still being right is something very common. Looking back on the recent history of this thread I'd say not many people called it no.

Bays name got people talking, as funny as that may be marketing is big business in hollywood. Everyone that tries to make fun of it just ends up part of the machine. NOTE the crowed reaction Conan got when he presented his joke. The same reaction critics have when the numbers come in.

exactly

Whiskey Tango
03-23-2012, 01:51 PM
No one is, you're the one with the hang ups about Bay, maybe now that you've read the news you'll chill out and sleep better at night?

1) Why are you so worried about what I think about Bay if you're not an apologist like you claim? Grow up and stop letting what others think ruin your day 2) I'm always chill & I sleep just fine champ.

Us? you were not one of them. lol

Plenty of people took a wait and see attitude. It's guys like you and roach who were ranting about the fanboys lamenting their raped childhoods when barely anyone on this board said anything of the sort.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=22745109&postcount=687

I myself will need more info and possibly a trailer before I decide either way.

That was three days ago.

My main argument was and still is against the rather stupid idea that fans shouldn't voice their concerns over badly stated ideas by a filmmaker.

Marvin
03-23-2012, 01:58 PM
As for bays words on their origin, I think he probably hit the nail on the head. And here's my soon to be confirmed prediction. The director is from South Africa, District 9 is huge there and within that story we are presented with a similar and 100% believable premise of mutation. A terrestrial creature is exposed to an unstable extra terrestrial substance and over the course of a short time his genetic and perhaps atomic make up is shifted over to an entirely new form. This form can be considered a mutation however because he was not born this way ala xmen but rather exposed ala spiderman(not a mutant) so that may not be the correct definition. What is apparent is that by the end of the transformation he has the genetic make up of an "ALIEN(race)." If someone gave me a shot of Kryptonian blood and a week later I was pretty much superman, I wouldn't call myself a mutant. Not a full Kryptonian either, but if my genetic make up was 100% alien at that point.... If this isn't close to what they are considering I'll eat my shorts.

Bay has always been a stickler for grounding technical aspects of his films in reality so that the more fantastical stuff has room to fester. The TF designs and lighting, Military operations. Obviously as in bad boys they blend in with crazy crap too but they have a somewhat technical base. This separates them from the GI Joe films for example. This is also what worked for Fast 5.

I think that when Bay spoke about kids believing what they are seeing is real he means in the vain of District 9 and no so much in the utter bs of a rat learning kung fu from watching it's owner and all the fun crap we seem to hold so high in our memories. So yea, Bay was probably given the pitch 2 weeks prior and paraphrased. What's interesting as always is the FanBoy element. It's almost fun to them. This videos, analogies to rapping little kids and requests for petitions whist there are real problems in the world worth petitions.

good on you.

Wolfwood
03-23-2012, 02:00 PM
I like the idea that perhaps the ooze itself is of alien origin. That I could live with.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 02:01 PM
As for bays words on their origin, I think he probably hit the nail on the head. And here's my soon to be confirmed prediction. The director is from South Africa, District 9 is huge there and within that story we are presented with a similar and 100% believable premise of mutation. A terrestrial creature is exposed to an unstable extra terrestrial substance and over the course of a short time his genetic and perhaps atomic make up is shifted over to an entirely new form. This form can be considered a mutation however because he was not born this way ala xmen but rather exposed ala spiderman(not a mutant) so that may not be the correct definition. What is apparent is that by the end of the transformation he has the genetic make up of an "ALIEN(race)." If someone gave me a shot of Kryptonian blood and a week later I was pretty much superman, I wouldn't call myself a mutant. Not a full Kryptonian either, but if my genetic make up was 100% alien at that point.... If this isn't close to what they are considering I'll eat my shorts.

That's just the normal origin then. Haha

Whiskey Tango
03-23-2012, 02:02 PM
What's interesting as always is the FanBoy element. It's almost fun to them. This videos, analogies to rapping little kids and requests for petitions whist there are real problems in the world worth petitions.

good on you.

What's even better is people who sit around on comic book message boards and complain about fanboys.

Y'know, while there are real problems in the world worth complaining about. :o

roach
03-23-2012, 02:04 PM
1)


Plenty of people took a wait and see attitude. It's guys like you and roach who were ranting about the fanboys lamenting their raped childhoods when barely anyone on this board said anything of the sort.



I didn't label the group of people who hated the idea as lamenting their raped childhoods...I called out people who made the claim and equally dumb statements...like comparing Bay to Hitler

Marvin
03-23-2012, 02:09 PM
That's just the normal origin then. Haha

Ergo why the outrage is = :whatever:
as usual.

What's even better is people who sit around on comic book message boards and complain about fanboys.

Y'know, while there are real problems in the world worth complaining about. :o

yea, but there is no such thing as rage about nerd rage lol.
It really is the rage bit that off putting. Moreover, complaining about such things is one thing but petitions is where I start to wonder.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 02:13 PM
Ergo why the outrage is = :whatever:
as usual.

As someone who was a bit disappointed (I wouldn't say I was outraged) at the initial Bay quote, I wouldn't say the fan anger and apprehension was unwarranted, considering Bay's track record as quality is concerned. Obviously some went overboard, but they aren't people worth speaking about.

On the same token, Bay brought this on himself with his trolling remarks. And I'm sure he wanted it to turn out this way.

bigmac2011
03-23-2012, 02:31 PM
Bay destroying yet another hunk of my childhood????? http://theworldofrossology.tk/oh-****-this-cant-be-good/ ...... I wonder what it would be like to have had another director at the helm of this or even his Transformers movies...... http://theworldofrossology.tk/call-it-curiousity/

Project862006
03-23-2012, 02:37 PM
bay is'nt directing it lol

take your rage down a notch lol

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 02:42 PM
As someone who was a bit disappointed (I wouldn't say I was outraged) at the initial Bay quote, I wouldn't say the fan anger and apprehension was unwarranted, considering Bay's track record as quality is concerned. Obviously some went overboard, but they aren't people worth speaking about.

On the same token, Bay brought this on himself with his trolling remarks. And I'm sure he wanted it to turn out this way.

No offense to Marvin but...

I think that's the problem with the Internet in general: Topics become the usual 'Us vs. Them' after it goes viral and unfortunately, overboard. Usually there are great constructive arguments initially (and from both sides) that always grows out of control.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 02:51 PM
That being said, I hope Liesbman and Eastman (man, man) somewhat follow the new IDW series that Kevin penned.

I don't mind if the Foot takes a back seat for the time being because frankly I don't mind seeing Krang, his rock soldiers, and perhaps...alluding to Bebop and Rocksteady!

sweetre15
03-23-2012, 02:52 PM
If Liebesman's insinuation of Bay's statement's being wrong proves correct then from now on, I'm at the very least in favor of Bay keeping his mouth shut LOL.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 02:57 PM
Bay seems like a guy who is out of his element when it comes to geek things. Like his interns have to hand him notes or something. Do you really think Bay grew up with Transformers or TMNT? No way.

Otherwise, he comes off as a text book 'old guy' who would sprout out 'You kids plain' them computer games?' :p

Project862006
03-23-2012, 03:01 PM
bay reminds me of a 90's dated frat boy

louiebling$
03-23-2012, 03:01 PM
I like the idea that perhaps the ooze itself is of alien origin. That I could live with.

Lol that is the turtles original origin

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 03:03 PM
bay reminds me of a 90's dated frat boy

Kinda.

Or like how 21 Jump St pointed out that nerds are the cool kids now (and the new modern bullies). Not in Bay's world!

Marvin
03-23-2012, 03:13 PM
No offense taken.
I'm just glad the actual director is finally being mentioned here and there. But like I said now that positive news is about people need to find someone to attribute it too.

Bay like every filmmaker out has an element they feel comfortable with. I don't see Nolan making a believable urban dance film any time soon. Bruckheimer would be another such character. Which is why I would have much preferred Del Torro or even a Justin Lin on this.

Atleast with TF bay was knee deep in production/devopment meetings where here he's just the producer. Which in in Todays world means very little involvement other than to bring a name.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 03:15 PM
Yeah, I'm glad that Jonathan is stepping up. That and forgot that he has press to do since 'Wrath of the Titans' is coming up. Perfect timing on Bay's part!

I saw of the clips from 'Wrath' and I take back what I said about the shaky camera. It's very present and very tight, and I hope Jonathan grows out of it. Design-wise, I liked the creature design from 'Wrath'. As long as the Turtles don't have beaks, I'm cool with him.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 03:46 PM
That being said, I hope Liesbman and Eastman (man, man) somewhat follow the new IDW series that Kevin penned.

It could go either way. Both the IDW run and the original comics have the ooze as an extraterrestrial origin. The newer one has Krang directly involved, while the original has the Utroms which are obviously the inspiration for Krang.

Considering the new comics are fresher in his head, I'd imagine we'll get something closer to it, but with a touch of the original.

I don't mind if the Foot takes a back seat for the time being because frankly I don't mind seeing Krang, his rock soldiers, and perhaps...alluding to Bebop and Rocksteady!

Bebop/Rocksteady aren't really main villain material, though. They're super human lackeys, not the leaders. I wouldn't be adverse to seeing them, but not as a main villain.

My hope?

Movie 1: Krang/Rock Soldiers with Baxter Stockman as a supporting villain

Movie 2: The Foot make their presence felt, Shredder defeats the turtles in combat, almost killing Leo and forcing the Turtles/Splinter/April/Casey to retreat to the farm

Movie 3: The Turtles train and refind themselves on the farm, and return to New York, wiping out The Foot and killing Shredder.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 03:48 PM
What I meant by alluding to the mutant Rocksteady and Bebop is: Them as hired thugs.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 03:52 PM
What I meant by alluding to the mutant Rocksteady and Bebop is: Them as hired thugs.

Oh yea. Very much like IDW then.

I just hope they don't try to stuff too much in here. If they're going to do Krang, don't try to stuff Shredder into the movie as well.

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 03:52 PM
Has it been mentioned if we are still getting actual rubber suits and a CGI head? or if the turtles will be wholly CGI.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 03:55 PM
Liesbman hasn't confirmed anything but with the interview he did with Collider, he didn't spell it out but said that he admired the work done in 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes'. Kinda like a 'wink wink' hinting.

If they are able to get WETA or ILM, then awesome. If not, don't bother.

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 03:56 PM
Liebesman hinted that they'll be using full on mo cap in the vein of the new Planet of the Apes film.

Lets just hope they can also get WETA on board as well. ;)

Liesbman hasn't confirmed anything but with the interview he did with Collider, he didn't spell it out but said that he admired the work done in 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes'. Kinda like a 'wink wink' hinting.

If they are able to get WETA or ILM, then awesome. If not, don't bother.This. :up:

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 03:56 PM
If they are able to get WETA or ILM, then awesome. If not, don't bother.

He also said he's amazed at the resources Paramount is throwing at this, and they aren't pulling any punches. I think we'll see one of them doing the job. I really hope it's WETA, though.

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 03:59 PM
He also said he's amazed at the resources Paramount is throwing at this, and they aren't pulling any punches. I think we'll see one of them doing the job. I really hope it's WETA, though.Well seeing as Bay has an amazing relationship with ILM I wouldn't be all that surprised if they go with them also. Then again I have a feeling they'll get a lot of big VFX houses on this project. Digital Domain seems like another given also based on their history with Bay.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 04:01 PM
Well seeing as Bay has an amazing relationship with ILM I wouldn't be all that surprised if they go with them also. Then again I have a feeling they'll get a lot of big VFX houses on this project.

I love ILM, but no one does performance capture like WETA. Really hoping they do this.

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 04:03 PM
Thanks, Is Liesbman confirmed then as director? I was kinda hoping for people in suits with CGI heads.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 04:04 PM
Yeah, Liesbman has openly talking about it in press releases, including on Superhero Hype and Collider.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 04:06 PM
So...is it too early to talk about casting ideas?

If it is...deal with it!

If Krang is in the movie, I want Frank Welker doing his Megatron voice.

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 04:09 PM
I love ILM, but no one does performance capture like WETA. Really hoping they do this.Davy Jones and Hulk send their regards. ;) :p

To be honest I'll be happy with either of them. They've both done some amazing work.

http://i.imgur.com/PGIdv.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/yDp6G.jpg

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 04:09 PM
So...is it too early to talk about casting ideas?

If it is...deal with it!

If Krang is in the movie, I want Frank Welker doing his Megatron voice.

Thanks Octoberist.

I know it'll never happen but i'd love the voice of Krang from the 80's cartoon, it fitted so well.

I say that knowing it probably wont fit in this version, but its such a iconic voice for me, up there with Skeletor.

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 04:12 PM
I think Josh Hutcherson would be an awesome Leonardo personally.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 04:13 PM
I just hope they don't update the Turtles too much, especially Mikey's 'surfer' persona. KEEP IT! It's very 80's and dammit, that makes his character awesome.

I'd argue that this persona have been persistent since the original cartoon; from the live action movies to even the 2003 cartoon. What was variable was his intelligence and his role as a team member.

But if they made him into a Justin Bieber 'hip hop' kid, I will be somewhat upset. Nothing against hip hop, but 'white kids trying to be black' type. But after Transformers 2, I'd it will happen.

Marvin
03-23-2012, 04:18 PM
Davy jones was the best work I've seen done of this sort to date. Avatar and Apes are close second.

However make no mistake that Johnathan will use the same effects house he's been using on his past two features. Battle LA wasn't bad but the aliens lacked.

District 9 pulled of realistic renders mostly due to the lighting of the film(all films should be lit that way imo). But also because the creatures were so far removed from anything the audience could clearly point flaws in.

If JL cited apes, he may make a serious effort to get weta on board. Though it would help if they were shooting in overseas.

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 04:21 PM
Yeah, i dont want mikey to be made to be much younger than the other 3, that he's maybe still learning and saves the day at the end, that he's our guide through the story.

They also have to still live in the sewers, eat pizza & say 'cowabunga'.

I wonder if they are making them aliens how much else are they changing?

The Guard
03-23-2012, 04:21 PM
I don't see Michaelangelo's "surfer dude" getting much of an update. Surfer Dude is like Valley Girl. It's not tied to the 80's.

Blue Sugar
03-23-2012, 04:24 PM
I'd love mo-cap CGI for the Turtles.

If it is up to these standards that will say:

http://livingwithanerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/avatar-screencap-screenshot-still-james-cameron-cgi-navi-realistic-roar.jpg

http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/assets_c/2012/02/risepa6-thumb-510x309-45034.jpg

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 04:30 PM
I don't see Michaelangelo's "surfer dude" getting much of an update. Surfer Dude is like Valley Girl. It's not tied to the 80's.

Yeah it has transcended past their origins.

I live in Orange County where I'm sure many of the young girls with the Valley Girl accent don't know where it come from in pop culture.

The one thing that I get a kick out of in the 80's was the overuse of the 'Long Island/New York' accent in eveything thanks to Cindy Loper.

Whiskey Tango
03-23-2012, 04:31 PM
bay reminds me of a 90's dated frat boy

Dude. Can we bring the brewskis?

http://i44.tinypic.com/1y8s3t.jpg


I don't see Michaelangelo's "surfer dude" getting much of an update. Surfer Dude is like Valley Girl. It's not tied to the 80's.

Maybe Keannu Reeves will be available.

the_ultimate_evil
03-23-2012, 04:45 PM
i just finished the first idw tpb, seriously just adapt this book. done and dusted

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 04:49 PM
Davy Jones and Hulk send their regards. ;) :p

DJ is great. Forgot about him. Probably because I hated those two movies haha.

And Hulk...eh. He's not bad, but he's not that great, IMO.

I know it'll never happen but i'd love the voice of Krang from the 80's cartoon, it fitted so well.

I say that knowing it probably wont fit in this version, but its such a iconic voice for me, up there with Skeletor.

Yea, Krang's voice was great for the tone of the 80s cartoon, but I think we'll need something more menacing this time.

I think Josh Hutcherson would be an awesome Leonardo personally.

Sam Witwer is my choice for Leo. And I'd love for them to get Nolan North back for Raph. He did a great job in TMNT.

I just hope they don't update the Turtles too much, especially Mikey's 'surfer' persona. KEEP IT! It's very 80's and dammit, that makes his character awesome.

I'd argue that this persona have been persistent since the original cartoon; from the live action movies to even the 2003 cartoon. What was variable was his intelligence and his role as a team member.

But if they made him into a Justin Bieber 'hip hop' kid, I will be somewhat upset. Nothing against hip hop, but 'white kids trying to be black' type. But after Transformers 2, I'd it will happen.

I doubt they'll change that. It's become iconic.

And the twins got so much flack in TF2, I doubt they'll test those waters again.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 04:52 PM
I think they need to get young actors who are in their 20s or even early 30's (knowing they won't hit puberty thus changing their voice too much).

Height shouldn't matter in this case if they go with mo-cap. Initally, it would have been interesting to see if they could make the Turtles like 5 feet tall like in the books but it's not worth it. Nor does it matter.

Height only matters among the actors I suppose.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 04:54 PM
DJ is great. Forgot about him. Probably because I hated those two movies haha.

And Hulk...eh. He's not bad, but he's not that great, IMO.



Yea, Krang's voice was great for the tone of the 80s cartoon, but I think we'll need something more menacing this time.



Sam Witwer is my choice for Leo. And I'd love for them to get Nolan North back for Raph. He did a great job in TMNT.



I doubt they'll change that. It's become iconic.

And the twins got so much flack in TF2, I doubt they'll test those waters again.

Hulk looks ten times better now than he did in 'Hulk' and 'Incredible Hulk'.

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 04:56 PM
I think they need to get young actors who are in their 20s or even early 30's (knowing they won't hit puberty thus changing their voice too much).

Height shouldn't matter in this case if they go with mo-cap. Initally, it would have been interesting to see if they could make the Turtles like 5 feet tall like in the books but it's not worth it. Nor does it matter.

Height only matters among the actors I suppose.Yeah I think they definitely need to go that route.

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 05:03 PM
Green is really tricky to do in CGI i read, as iuts so far removed from a natural skin color, no matter how much time is put into it, it still looks fake. Least thats what Denis Muren said when making Hulk.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 05:04 PM
But you know, that was in 2003. Like what I said before, Hulk looks pretty damn good in 'The Avengers' more so than in the 'Hulk'.

I think if it's a pure green, sure, but if you play around the tones and texture (spots, lines, etc),you should be fine.

Project862006
03-23-2012, 05:05 PM
I think Josh Hutcherson would be an awesome Leonardo personally.
:oldrazz:too short to play a turtle

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 05:05 PM
ILM at least has gotten a hold of how to do it right. They just don't go with that bright of a green (a more flesh toned green would work fine for the turtles as well just with the texture of that of Davy Jones).

http://i.imgur.com/VW1AX.jpg

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 05:08 PM
But you know, that was in 2003. Like what I said before, Hulk looks pretty damn good in 'The Avengers' more so than in the 'Hulk'.

I think if it's a pure green, sure, but if you play around the tones and texture (spots, lines, etc),you should be fine.

Yeah i do think theres more you can do with a (alien) turtle than a human, human skin is much smoother, the turtle skin with have a wider palette of colour, and the more reptile texture. I suppose we should look to lizard from Amazing spider-man for how realistic it looks.

But then again it all depends on who gets to animate them, Davy Jones though is still pretty darn impressive looking as realistic as a squid man can.

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 05:09 PM
:oldrazz:too short to play a turtleThe turtles in most incarnations aren't that tall, so he's perfect. ;)

Honestly though I wouldn't care if all of them are of different heights. Gives them more of distinct physical traits that way.

the_ultimate_evil
03-23-2012, 05:10 PM
ok the subject of colours should they do need the different masks, as much as i love the uniform red it doesn't work well on screen

also the turtles need to be different shades of green

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 05:12 PM
ILM at least has gotten a hold of how to do it right. They just don't go with that bright of a green (a more flesh toned green would work fine for the turtles as well just with the texture of that of Davy Jones).

http://i.imgur.com/VW1AX.jpg

Even though Hulk wasn't featured too much in the trailers, from what I've seen, they got the little details of Ruffalo's face in there, including the subtle movement of the jaws and face. That's what CGI's new standard: showing the little muscles in the body and face/eyes. Once we perfect that, CG will improve even more so.

Stringer
03-23-2012, 05:12 PM
I haven't read the new IDW comics but I kinda hope they go with the more sarcastic Mike of the old comics and first movie than the aloof, clumsy Mike from the old cartoon and cartoon movie.

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 05:14 PM
ok the subject of colours should they do need the different masks, as much as i love the uniform red it doesn't work well on screen

also the turtles need to be different shades of green

Yeah i was just about to mention that.

I think they really need to different bandana's, and think they'll stick with it, most of the general public are not even aware they were never originally like that.

Plus when this film is aimed at children too, it'd be too confusing for 4 guys who look pretty similar to wear red. It just makes it so much easier to seperate them, plus either Eastman or Laird has said thats a addition the cartoon gave them he liked.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 05:14 PM
ok the subject of colours should they do need the different masks, as much as i love the uniform red it doesn't work well on screen

also the turtles need to be different shades of green

The different colored masks (I would assume) would be a mandate by Nickelodeon. Also, many casual fans and the general public know them too well by their different colored masks. Even in the IDW comics, they eventually change into different masks.

I wouldn't mind, in the course of the film, if they initially went all red, but decided to change because April doesn't know who is who.

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 05:14 PM
Even though Hulk wasn't featured too much in the trailers, from what I've seen, they got the little details of Ruffalo's face in there, including the subtle movement of the jaws and face. That's what CGI's new standard: showing the little muscles in the body and face/eyes. Once we perfect that, CG will improve even more so.Those nuances really do make all the difference.

Lencho01
03-23-2012, 05:15 PM
Unknown. He hasn't been seen yet. I'd imagine he'd be a reincarnated Oroku Saki or somehow immortal though. So far the main bad guy is Krang, with Baxter Stockman and Old Hob, who is a mutated alley cat with a grudge against Splinter.

Sounds pretty cool. I'll have to check it out someday.

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 05:16 PM
The different colored mask (I would assume) would be a mandate by Nickelodeon. Also, many casual fans know them too well by their different colored masks. Even in the IDW comics, they eventually change into different masks.

I wouldn't mind, in the course of the film, if they initially went all red, but decided to change because April doesn't know who is who.

Nice idea, In the comics whats the reason they changed masks? and is it to the colors we all know?

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 05:16 PM
Those nuances really do make all the difference.

That's why in Green Lantern, the aliens looked cartoony because they were not mo-capped. They looked like (literally) cartoon characters, not real beings.

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 05:19 PM
I wonder if Andy Serkis gets a role as a turtle or if he's limited to apes. He's kinda the mo cap go to guy, I can imagine them using the guy who played Abe sapien in hell boy too (his name escapes me).

This being a bay production though i can imagine him getting Statham & Diesel doing mo cap.

Then having different people do the voices. I'm just thinking aloud.

Marvin
03-23-2012, 05:19 PM
Transformers supposedly uses zero mo cap and it looks fine. Though they are robots.

The minute Sony Imageworks lands this gig, it's over.

Lencho01
03-23-2012, 05:21 PM
I think I read somewhere that April originally was going to be Black. Do any of you think they'd try to do that or just keep her the same as past versions?

In regards to the actors, I feel they should stick with professional voice actors. I feel it helps to see the characters as who they are rather than some famous person doing the voice.

B.A. Baracus
03-23-2012, 05:22 PM
There work on MIB and spiderman 2 and 3 was good, no davy jones but still good.

Webhead2006
03-23-2012, 05:26 PM
Its great to hear the director has cleared some things up. Its also good he has pointed out bay is incorrect on certain thing. So that makes me happy there. I too will be happy if ilm/weta do effects and they do full on mo cap/cgi route like avatar/apes.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 05:31 PM
I think I read somewhere that April originally was going to be Black. Do any of you think they'd try to do that or just keep her the same as past versions?

In regards to the actors, I feel they should stick with professional voice actors. I feel it helps to see the characters as who they are rather than some famous person doing the voice.

Was she actually black in the original comics? Or was ethnically ambiguous (She looked either Persian or Greek to me).

I think they're keep her as a red head white girl. Though Baxter Stockman, even in the new cartoon and IDW comics, he's black, which is great I think. I've always thought in the 80's cartoon, it seems like they were afraid to have black characters hence the Jerry Lewis Baxter Stockman.

Mr.?
03-23-2012, 05:33 PM
The different colored masks (I would assume) would be a mandate by Nickelodeon. Also, many casual fans and the general public know them too well by their different colored masks. Even in the IDW comics, they eventually change into different masks.

I wouldn't mind, in the course of the film, if they initially went all red, but decided to change because April doesn't know who is who.
I thought of an idea a while back to have all the turtles wear red masks as trainees and then splinter giving them the different colored masks when they "graduate".

Tanin
03-23-2012, 05:36 PM
I'm more curious as to the reporter or scientist route with April rather then her possible ethnicity. I love both versions of April so I myself am torn as to which I want to see in the film.

spider-neil
03-23-2012, 05:44 PM
http://collider.com/jonathan-liebesman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-interview/154499/


phew!! :yay:

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 05:50 PM
Was she actually black in the original comics? Or was ethnically ambiguous (She looked either Persian or Greek to me).

I think they're keep her as a red head white girl. Though Baxter Stockman, even in the new cartoon and IDW comics, he's black, which is great I think. I've always thought in the 80's cartoon, it seems like they were afraid to have black characters hence the Jerry Lewis Baxter Stockman.

Baxter was black in the original comics as well.

As for April, it was never really clear what her ethnicity was. When they went back and colored the old comics sometimes she was black, sometimes she was white. Although I believe it was said that the times she was depicted as an African American it was a mistake by the colorist. Can't guarantee that info is right though.

It's not really a big deal what ethnicity she is, IMO. But if they do go the redhead route, I'd personally like to see Deborah Ann Wall get the part.

I'm more curious as to the reporter or scientist route with April rather then her possible ethnicity. I love both versions of April so I myself am torn as to which I want to see in the film.

I like her role in IDW. She's an intern in Baxter Stockman's lab where the turtles and Splinter are before transforming.

That way she's still young, but can still fill the big sister role.

Eddie Dean
03-23-2012, 05:50 PM
Michael Bay present Teenage Alien Ninja Turles

Shia LeBeouf - Leonardo
Robert Pattinson - Donatello
Alex Pettyfer - Raphael
Anthony Anderson - Michaelangelo
Ken Jeong - Splinter
Kate Upton - April O'Niell
Josh Duhamel - Casey Jones
John Turturro - Baxter Stockman

Marvin
03-23-2012, 05:50 PM
I'd love to see an Asian April.

They can never do this with big characters such as Lois Lane or MJ but with the likes of april it would be a missed opportunity not to.

Project862006
03-23-2012, 05:53 PM
:oyou want a scientist april who is asian and hangs around a bunch of ninjas

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 05:54 PM
I'd love to see an Asian April.

They can never do this with big characters such as Lois Lane or MJ but with the likes of april it would be a missed opportunity not to.

Asian would be cool. But I'd be nervous they'd go, "She's Asian! Obviously she can do martial arts and fight with the Turtles!"

That was one of the big things I never liked about TMNT. They made April a ninja.

spider-neil
03-23-2012, 05:56 PM
Transformers supposedly uses zero mo cap and it looks fine. Though they are robots.

The minute Sony Imageworks lands this gig, it's over.

they're useless. it's a crying shame spider-man will forever be done by those hacks.

Matt Mortem
03-23-2012, 05:57 PM
The directors comments helped to ease my mind a bit, but I'm still a little cautious.

spider-neil
03-23-2012, 05:58 PM
the turtle should be full CG and voiced by the actors from TMNT 07. I thought all of them were excellent. obviously splinter will need a new voice actor

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 06:01 PM
they're useless. it's a crying shame spider-man will forever be done by those hacks.

Yeah, despite their wealth of resources (SONY), they do suck.

Marvin
03-23-2012, 06:04 PM
Yea if she's asian and does anything remotely stereotypical by societies definition even if that be hanging around ninja whilst eating sushi, in a film with Bay's name on it the critics will cry bloody murder.
She better not wear glasses.

Project862006
03-23-2012, 06:19 PM
she will be a scientist and wear glasses and be called "April Chang" and of course have a karate background

Mr.?
03-23-2012, 06:40 PM
she will be a scientist and wear glasses and be called "April Chang" and of course have a karate background
I thought her name was April O'Near.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 06:46 PM
this is who i want to be april her name is Bryce Dallas Howard
http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/People/B/Bryce_Dallas_Howard/Bryce%20Dallas%20Howard%20image%20%282%29.jpg

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 06:48 PM
I love her.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 06:49 PM
fits the bill right i hear shes in the twilight movies but i dont care

Project862006
03-23-2012, 06:57 PM
i thought she was amazing in the help

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 06:57 PM
Love her, but she's too old, IMO

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:00 PM
for april oneil?

the_ultimate_evil
03-23-2012, 07:03 PM
Love her, but she's too old, IMO

she's what 29/30, never hear of the wb casting effect.

if april is early to mid 20's in the story then she would be fine.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:04 PM
Love her, but she's too old, IMO

It depends on the role though. Dallas looks young; IMO she looks like she's around her late 20's, so that shouldn't be in issue. But if she's an intern for a lab or a TV station straight from college, yeah, maybe it won't fit her. If she's a scientist or a reporter it's fine.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:06 PM
I mean for me. She's in her 30s. I personally would prefer the role to be a woman in her early to mid 20s.

If they were going for an older April, BDH would be a great choice though.

Eddie Dean
03-23-2012, 07:06 PM
Michael Bay present Teenage Alien Ninja Turles

Shia LeBeouf - Leonardo
Robert Pattinson - Donatello
Alex Pettyfer - Raphael
Anthony Anderson - Michaelangelo
Ken Jeong - Splinter
Kate Upton - April O'Niell
Josh Duhamel - Casey Jones
John Turturro - Baxter Stockman
Guys, this cast is amazing. Seriously. I'm not joking.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:06 PM
whats this scientist BS anyway

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:07 PM
she's what 29/30, never hear of the wb casting effect.

if april is early to mid 20's in the story then she would be fine.

Sometimes, people now these days focus too much on an actor's real age. Depp, who is 48, tends to play characters who are 10-15 years younger due to his boyish looks.

Robert Downey Jr's Sherlock is like 36 according to Sherlock 2. Zooey Deschannel is 31-32, and in The New Girl she's playing a 20 something because she looks it. So it doesn't matter.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:07 PM
It depends on the role though. Dallas looks young; IMO she looks like she's around her late 20's, so that shouldn't be in issue. But if she's an intern for a lab or a TV station straight from college, yeah, maybe it won't fit her. If she's a scientist or a reporter it's fine.

Yea. She's not old looking, but I don't think she can pull off a college intern.

Of course it all depends on the direction they take.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:08 PM
I mean for me. She's in her 30s. I personally would prefer the role to be a woman in her early to mid 20s.

If they were going for an older April, BDH would be a great choice though.

But she looks like she's 27. But it all depends on how they want to play her up. If they wanted a younger April in her early 20's, which plays a role in the film, then sure, Dallas probably couldn't do it.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:09 PM
whats this scientist BS anyway

This scientist "BS" is how she's portrayed in all the comics and the 2003 cartoon series.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:10 PM
But she looks like she's 27. But it all depends on how they want to play her up. If they wanted a younger April in her early 20's, which plays a role in the film, then sure, Dallas probably couldn't do it.

I think it's a bit of a stretch for her to be cast as an early 20s, but that's me.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:11 PM
The April in the first film was like in her mid 20's but looks like 35. Although the actress who replaced her fit the role better (more spunky, a little more attractive), the first April was pretty in his own way. I noticed it more recently when I saw the first film again; I think it was her 80's hair that got in the way, but her face was cute.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:12 PM
BDH looks like shes 21-22 imo

but i would want april to be a young up and coming investigative reporter with a fiery streak as bright as her hair

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:14 PM
HOTNESS, by David Rapoza

http://i.imgur.com/Arqj9.jpg

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 07:15 PM
^^That's some awesome fan art. :hrt:

-------

Bryce does look really young and I think she's incredibly pretty. I'd love for her to play April.

jaymes_e06
03-23-2012, 07:16 PM
Fire crotches everywhere will be rallying for this role. Lindsay Lohan need not apply. :o

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:18 PM
I was never a fan of the reporter angle when compared to the scientist role, personally.

Plus, having her working in the lab can open up the ability for her to be connected to the turtles before mutation.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:18 PM
seriously lindsay keep away please

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:18 PM
Linsay is not only bloated looking now due her constant botex, but she's damn ashamed of being a ginger. Same thing with the chick from That 70's Show.

I love red heads.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:20 PM
same here

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:20 PM
I often wondered, even as a kid, why did April wear that yellow jumpsuit if she's a reporter.

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 07:21 PM
Whoever they pick as April she has to be sincere in her approach when interacting with the Turtles. If there isn't a genuine sense of sympathy, care and friendship between her and the guys it all sort of falls apart no matter how young/old/pretty the actress may be.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:21 PM
I love red heads.

They're the best.

I often wondered, even as a kid, why did April wear that yellow jumpsuit if she's a reporter.

It was the 80s man.

jaymes_e06
03-23-2012, 07:23 PM
Linsay is not only bloated looking now due her constant botex, but she's damn ashamed of being a ginger. Same thing with the chick from That 70's Show.

I love red heads.
Here here!:raph::don::leo::mikey:

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:24 PM
i am a big true blood fan ( lots of naked hot chicks and gore ) the girl the plays jessica is deborah ann woll born in 1985 so shes 27 and fits the age plus shes a super hot red head

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_F9Uh7Io1t_0/TGMRlhecZlI/AAAAAAAAAD8/wet6TpKDVKw/s320/i6hvso.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_F9Uh7Io1t_0/TGMR9MApDsI/AAAAAAAAAEE/1Gw0Vb7qw-g/s1600/n653z7.jpg

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:26 PM
i am a big true blood fan ( lots of naked hot chicks and gore ) the girl the plays jessica is deborah ann woll born in 1985 so shes 27 and fits the age plus shes a super hot red head

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_F9Uh7Io1t_0/TGMRlhecZlI/AAAAAAAAAD8/wet6TpKDVKw/s320/i6hvso.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_F9Uh7Io1t_0/TGMR9MApDsI/AAAAAAAAAEE/1Gw0Vb7qw-g/s1600/n653z7.jpg


That's been my choice since day 1. Love her. So much.

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 07:26 PM
i am a big true blood fan ( lots of naked hot chicks and gore ) the girl the plays jessica is deborah ann woll born in 1985 so shes 27 and fits the age plus shes a super hot red head

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_F9Uh7Io1t_0/TGMRlhecZlI/AAAAAAAAAD8/wet6TpKDVKw/s320/i6hvso.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_F9Uh7Io1t_0/TGMR9MApDsI/AAAAAAAAAEE/1Gw0Vb7qw-g/s1600/n653z7.jpgShe's incredibly good looking. :wow: :hrt:

If she can act then I say she definitely should be a candidate. :up:

jaymes_e06
03-23-2012, 07:26 PM
^I can actually see Bay hiring her too. Good suggestion.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:27 PM
She's awesome.

And for God's sakes, I hope they don't hire a blond so they dye her hair red. You can always tell if it's just a dye job for the role. Only a few actresses can pull a 'red dye' job and make it look natural. That being Emma Stone, who shocked me when I found out she's actually a blond!

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:29 PM
She's awesome.

And for God's sakes, I hope they don't hire a blond so they dye her hair red. You can always tell if it's just a dye job for the role. Only a few actresses can pull a 'red dye' job and make it look natural. That being Emma Stone, who shocked me when I found out she's actually a blond!

Yes. This. We don't need another Kiersten Dunst MJ situation.

As for Casey Jones (if he's in this one) I dunno if he can do an American accent, but I'd love to see Kit Harrington (Jon Snow on Game of Thrones) get the role.

Project862006
03-23-2012, 07:31 PM
lets get emma stone then lol

craigdbfan
03-23-2012, 07:32 PM
That's a solid suggestion Carnage. :up:

http://i.imgur.com/evYXg.jpg

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:33 PM
Yes. This. We don't need another Kiersten Dunst MJ situation.

As for Casey Jones (if he's in this one) I dunno if he can do an American accent, but I'd love to see Kit Harrington (Jon Snow on Game of Thrones) get the role.

Kristen isn't ugly to me, and has a certain beauty about her, but she looked unappealing as a red head. She didn't look believable.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:33 PM
i would need to see him in costume before i make a choice but the hair is a good fit

http://www.geek-art.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Dave-Rapoza-Casey-Jones.jpg

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:35 PM
Kristen isn't ugly to me, and has a certain beauty about her, but she looked unappealing as a red head. She didn't look believable.

I don't think she's ugly...but she could not pull of MJ at all.

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:36 PM
She wasn't right for the role

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:36 PM
KD is ok but i would need a bew beers before i would bang her

Project862006
03-23-2012, 07:38 PM
lol yeah sure stud

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:38 PM
dead serious

Octoberist
03-23-2012, 07:39 PM
i would need to see him in costume before i make a choice but the hair is a good fit

http://i.imgur.com/Arqj9.jpg

http://www.geek-art.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Dave-Rapoza-Casey-Jones.jpg

This artist is amazing, and if he's isn't getting paid for his art, there is no justice!

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:41 PM
http://www.therobotspajamas.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/shredder_dave_rapoza_tmnt_2.jpg

i already posted the turtles earlier do i will just keep it to the other characters

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/MrDelicious/Rocksteady_Dave_Rapoza_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/MrDelicious/Bebop_Dave_Rapoza_3.jpg

Wolfwood
03-23-2012, 07:47 PM
Lol that is the turtles original origin

Is it? I'm only familiar with the TV show/movie where the Ooze was man made.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 07:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/MrDelicious/Rocksteady_Dave_Rapoza_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/MrDelicious/Bebop_Dave_Rapoza_3.jpg

That Bebop is awesome.

Not a huge fan of the Rocksteady though.

Lencho01
03-23-2012, 07:51 PM
Anyone know of Elena Satine? I've only seen her on Smallville, but her role wasn't really great.

DaveMoral
03-23-2012, 07:53 PM
whats this scientist BS anyway

Originally(read in Mirage Studio's Eastman and Laird's TMNT) April was a scientist working for Baxter Stockman and was rescued by the Turtles when Stockman unleashed the mousers.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 07:54 PM
http://daverapoza.cghub.com/files/Image/134001-135000/134021/981_stream.jpghttp://daverapoza.cghub.com/files/Image/128001-129000/128584/371_stream.jpg
http://daverapoza.cghub.com/files/Image/126001-127000/126377/241_stream.jpghttp://daverapoza.cghub.com/files/Image/124001-125000/124763/732_stream.jpg
http://daverapoza.cghub.com/files/Image/121001-122000/121236/943_stream.jpg

roach
03-23-2012, 07:55 PM
Yeah, i dont want mikey to be made to be much younger than the other 3, that he's maybe still learning and saves the day at the end, that he's our guide through the story.

They also have to still live in the sewers, eat pizza & say 'cowabunga'.

I wonder if they are making them aliens how much else are they changing?

i was hoping they'd get away from this

jaymes_e06
03-23-2012, 07:55 PM
camp blood gotta say that looks awesome!

DaveMoral
03-23-2012, 08:00 PM
Is it? I'm only familiar with the TV show/movie where the Ooze was man made.

Funny thing about TMNTII: The Secret of the Ooze... there was pretty much NO secret. "Oh, so it was by this company but ultimately what we know about the ooze now is what we knew about the ooze in the last movie." The original plan for that movie was to reveal the secret of the ooze... that being, TCRI was a front company for the Utroms and the ooze was a product of what they were doing. Just like the original comics, and in the '03 series.

But even in the '87 series the mutagen was not man-made, it was something Krang made.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 08:00 PM
i was hoping they'd get away from this

I'd be okay if they use it sparingly. Like in TMNT Mikey was the only one with the surfer lingo and they only ate pizza for breakfast once, and never really talked about it.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 08:01 PM
camp blood gotta say that looks awesome!

thats all of them not including the turtles but i posted those a day or two ago

Wolfwood
03-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Funny thing about TMNTII: The Secret of the Ooze... there was pretty much NO secret. "Oh, so it was by this company but ultimately what we know about the ooze now is what we knew about the ooze in the last movie." The original plan for that movie was to reveal the secret of the ooze... that being, TCRI was a front company for the Utroms and the ooze was a product of what they were doing. Just like the original comics, and in the '03 series.

But even in the '87 series the mutagen was not man-made, it was something Krang made.

Wow, never knew any of that. I gotta catch up on the '03 series, I only saw a bit of it.

DaveMoral
03-23-2012, 08:04 PM
thats all of them not including the turtles but i posted those a day or two ago

I'm not a fan of his renditions of the TMNT. The others a decent, but his TMNT look like roid ragers and almost haggard.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 08:06 PM
i like that, they look battle hardened

louiebling$
03-23-2012, 08:08 PM
Is it? I'm only familiar with the TV show/movie where the Ooze was man made.

Yea in the original comics the ultroms(Krangs Race) Created the ooze

DaveMoral
03-23-2012, 08:11 PM
i like that, they look battle hardened

That'd be decent for many many years into their future. Not when they are teenagers first emerging from the sewers to fight the Foot.

roach
03-23-2012, 08:30 PM
I'd be okay if they use it sparingly. Like in TMNT Mikey was the only one with the surfer lingo and they only ate pizza for breakfast once, and never really talked about it.

i get that everyone knows them as the pizza suffer guys but to me its like if all people knew of Batman was the 60's show and required every movie to have Robin saying 'Holy ______, Batman"

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 08:32 PM
i get that everyone knows them as the pizza suffer guys but to me its like if all people knew of Batman was the 60's show and required every movie to have Robin saying 'Holy ______, Batman"

It still should be used, especially for Mikey. That was folded into his comics character as the comics continued.

Plus, they used it in the original film and it worked terrifically.

Project862006
03-23-2012, 08:41 PM
thats like taking the quips away from spiderman

it is what make them so fun

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 08:49 PM
i think mikey and donnie should be the lighter more comedic ones

Figs
03-23-2012, 08:57 PM
Whoever they pick as April she has to be sincere in her approach when interacting with the Turtles. If there isn't a genuine sense of sympathy, care and friendship between her and the guys it all sort of falls apart no matter how young/old/pretty the actress may be.

I think Bryce Dallas Howard would be a good choice for the role. I could totally see her as April.

Project862006
03-23-2012, 08:59 PM
get emma stone then she is young and is red a head and popular actress atm and she always brings that sincere and nice quality especially in the help

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 09:00 PM
I think Bryce Dallas Howard would be a good choice for the role. I could totally see her as April.

look at the pic i posted of her on page 8,looks perfect she even has april o'neil hair

and project i kind of want emma stone to stay away from this IMHO she doesnt have the look to play april i think bryce howard or deb ann woll are the best choices

Figs
03-23-2012, 09:01 PM
this is who i want to be april her name is Bryce Dallas Howard
http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/People/B/Bryce_Dallas_Howard/Bryce%20Dallas%20Howard%20image%20%282%29.jpg

Quoting it just because that's a good comparison pic...plus I have a thing for redheads and would go to town on that.

Carnage27
03-23-2012, 09:02 PM
get emma stone then she is young and is red a head and popular actress atm and she always brings that sincere and nice quality especially in the help

Eh. I like Stone, but I don't see her in the role.

camp Blood
03-23-2012, 09:04 PM
Quoting it just because that's a good comparison pic...plus I have a thing for redheads and would go to town on that.

i would go downtown on that ;)