Prometheus - Part 5

[Wesley Dodds]

http://images.wikia.com/blackbooks/images/4/49/Beethoven_Bernard.jpg

[dude love]

Hilarious that Alex Jones knows so much about the script of this film. :)

But it makes sense, and Weyland definitely comes off as an Illuminati. This also feeds into the rumors we've heard about crewmembers literally turning into Space Jockeys....hell, maybe baddies like Weyland and Vickers are trying to achieve godhood, or even use David 9 to attain that goal or something.

On the subject of Alex Jones, has he ever done a show about the Assassins' Creed game series? It's chock full of Illuminati type concepts, with the Abstergo Corporation having a lot of similarities to Weyland-Yutani. Alex would especially likely be interested in the upcoming installment, Assassins' Creed 3, which is set in the American Revolution and features the Founding Fathers.

Assassin's Creed very openly acknowledges the whole New World Order conspiracy.

I very much think David will fly off with the Space Jockey's at the end of the film. Go on to learn the secrets of the universe, etc. Just a theory.

[Franklin Richards]

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/SiskoWhaa.jpg


:ST: :ST: :ST:

[Wesley Dodds]

Some douche posted the end of The Cabin In The Woods here a couple hours ago. It's been deleted since but this was my Bernard Black-ian response to said douchery. :)

[Rowsdower!]

Ugh! I hate when people do that. I still curse the day I got onto the Hype, about a year before Batman Begins came out, and some douche was going into EVERY thread he could spoiling the DuCard/Ra's thing. If I ever find that guy in real life I'm going to crush his nuts into oblivion.

[Wesley Dodds]

It wasn't like I was particularly looking forward to it or anything but yeah, any way you slice it that's a serious dick move.

[dude love]

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll174/dudelove/fifieldlight.jpg

Did anyone else get the Predator theme sting in their head when they saw that, lol?

[Wesley Dodds]

Pretty much convinced the old man from the trailer is Weyland

http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/newprometheus57.jpg

http://www.prometheusforum.net/uploads/FileUpload/8e/6639d9f0b625157f4ff20320dc51dd.png
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[Matt Mortem]

Yeah I'm certain that'd Weyland as well.

[Wesley Dodds]

It's clear that's not ACTUALLY an old man. They're excellent prosthetics but you can still kind of make out Pierce underneath.

[Matt Mortem]

Oh definitely. It's gotta be Weyland.

[dude love]

That's Weyland for sure, but.... he does strongly resemble Patrick Wilson in that second photo....

[The Morningstar]

Nah, I think if you played it at normal speed it'd look even more awkward and shambling.
Plus, when was it ever confirmed Lambert was raped? That's pure speculation.

Na, she was actually raped. In the extended cut that came with the blue ray anthology you can see the tail go up towards her arse. Instead of it cutting away when it just wraps around her leg. Then when Ripley finds them Lambert's trousers/pants are gone and she was blood running down her legs. And the writers and i think even Scott confirmed she got raped. The whole movie is about rape.

[Oberon sexton]

Originally didn't they have the Alien watching Ripley and start touching itself towards the end?

[dude love]

I've never heard about that one.

[Marvolo]

Originally didn't they have the Alien watching Ripley and start touching itself towards the end?

Yeah. Originally that's what went down.

[Rac]

Apparently, some folks online seem to think that Shaw has given birth to this creature

In the leaked trailer with the all the "PROPERTY OF FOX" tags you see Shaw's stomach grow in rapid way

[Vickers]

James Cameron Wants to Direct "Prometheus" Sequel

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=24435&count=0

[nouan]

Originally didn't they have the Alien watching Ripley and start touching itself towards the end?

First time I ever hear of this. So I googled "alien touching itself". Rather dissapointing results. Was it in the script or something?

[The Morningstar]

Yea it was in the script. Don't think it ever got filmed.

I'd recommend people to watch the making of Alien documentary, it's all on youtube. Here's a link to part 1.

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[nouan]

Interesting looking documentary, I'll check it out. Thanks!

[Wesley Dodds]

Na, she was actually raped. In the extended cut that came with the blue ray anthology you can see the tail go up towards her arse. Instead of it cutting away when it just wraps around her leg. Then when Ripley finds them Lambert's trousers/pants are gone and she was blood running down her legs. And the writers and i think even Scott confirmed she got raped. The whole movie is about rape.

No doubt, but to say she was "definitely" raped is a stretch. Lambert's fate is deliberately left nicely ambiguous. Sure, her bare legs are hanging there at the end but the exact nature of the alien is so shrouded in mystery in the original film that practically ANYTHING could have happened to her.

[The Morningstar]

Fair point. I think the theatrical cut left it purposefully more ambiguous. I think the extended cut is a little less so.

[Wesley Dodds]

I should probably watch the extended cut again, it's been too long (the only problem is i think i'm starting to get a little bit Alien-ed out :hehe:)

[Wesley Dodds]

James Cameron Wants to Direct "Prometheus" Sequel

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=24435&count=0

As much as I (mostly) want to believe this, remember what day it is.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^That sounds fake as hell.

[The Morningstar]

haha yea April Fools i guess. That interview was posted on here a while back, he never mentioned talking with Ridley about doing a sequel. He just mentioned he'd be first in line to see Prometheus and all that.

[KRIM]

As much as I (mostly) want to believe this, remember what day it is.
Ridley wants to do a trilogy, so unless he dies, I don't know why anyone would want anybody but him to continue the story.

[Boom]

I'd piss my pants if Ridley Scott made a sci-fi trilogy.

[Wesley Dodds]

Ridley wants to do a trilogy, so unless he dies, I don't know why anyone would want anybody but him to continue the story.

That's why I so strategically used the word "mostly".

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I wish directors wouldn't talk about sequels before the box office numbers come in. It often times leads to embarrassment.

[The Morningstar]

He's never said anything about a trilogy. He said he'd like to do a sequel if this is successful and that the film leaves room for one. Nothing about a trilogy to my knowledge.

[LuvSupes]

yeah it's an april's fool, consider the source prometheus forum :hehe:, but a good april's fool

[Wesley Dodds]

He's never said anything about a trilogy. He said he'd like to do a sequel if this is successful and that the film leaves room for one. Nothing about a trilogy to my knowledge.

News to me as well. Odd thing for a man who, in a 40 year career, has never made a single sequel before...

[chamber-music]

Ridley isn't getting any younger. I wonder if he still wants to make the futuristic Science Fiction movie adaptaions of The Forever War and Brave New World.

I would rather see him adapt those orginal science fiction stories than watch him direct a sequel to Blade Runner or Prometheus to be honest.

[The Morningstar]

Same here. I'd love to see him do The Forever War. That would be ****ing amazing.

His next film is that Cormac McCarthy court room thriller about the Mexican Cartels though isn't it?

[Boom]

I can only wish that I am half as vigorous as Ridley Scott when I am 74 years old.

[BenReilly]

News to me as well. Odd thing for a man who, in a 40 year career, has never made a single sequel before...

He did direct Hannibal, which was technically a sequel to Demme's Silence of the Lambs.

[chamber-music]

Ridley has been making a new movie a year or 18 months for the last decade. His been pretty prolific. Like Clint Eastwood his got a workmen like ethic when making movies.

[The Morningstar]

Talking of Hannibal, am i the only one who thinks it's underrated? I think people look on it in a bad light because of the hype surrounding it and it didn't live up to the first movie.

It's not brilliant, but i don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some make out. The main problem with it for me is the pacing issues in the middle.

[Warhammer]

Talking of Hannibal, am i the only one who thinks it's underrated? I think people look on it in a bad light because of the hype surrounding it and it didn't live up to the first movie.

It's not brilliant, but i don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some make out. The main problem with it for me is the pacing issues in the middle.

I agree 100%. I'd say this movie suffers from the failure to live up to it's predecessor. The Godfather Part III is another example. It wasn't a bad movie. It's just hard to live up to, arguably, one of the best films ever made and the greatest sequel ever made.

[The Morningstar]

Yep, the Godfather 3 itself isn't anywhere near being a bad movie. It's got some bad acting, not naming any names... but i think overall, it was a fitting end to the trilogy. The end on the steps after the opera and when Michael dies alone back in Sicily is powerful stuff.

[DACrowe]

Prometheus will be rated R for "Intense, graphic violence, brief nudity and adult themes" (http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss187/livinlowcarbman/April-Fool-s-Day-26.gif)

[DoomsdayApex]

Whoa!!!! :wow:

:oldrazz:

[dark_b]

i dont want to watch any footage or read about spoilers. i tryed to stay out of this thread. but its impossible. is it possible to delete the Prometheus thread rom SHH until june?

[Happy Jack]

I can only wish that I am half as vigorous as Ridley Scott when I am 74 years old.

Scott is 74? Wow. :wow:

[xmangambit]

****ing hate aprils fools thought i was gonna pull my dick out when i saw it was r rated then they just bust my balls when i click the link ****ing pissed right now

[The Morningstar]

Prometheus will be rated R for "Intense, graphic violence, brief nudity and adult themes" (http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss187/livinlowcarbman/April-Fool-s-Day-26.gif)

You bastardo!!!!!!

:oldrazz:

[ThePowerCosmic]

I saw Alien and Aliens for the first time today... all I can say is wow. Now I really can't wait for Prometheus. So many things in the trailers make sense now.

[ThePowerCosmic]

How Aliens Should Have Ended

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[Marvolo]

Prometheus will be rated R for "Intense, graphic violence, brief nudity and adult themes" (http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss187/livinlowcarbman/April-Fool-s-Day-26.gif)

April fools is the most obnoxious day of the year to be on the internet.:cmad:

[Vickers]

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[Destructus86]

I saw Alien and Aliens for the first time today... all I can say is wow. Now I really can't wait for Prometheus. So many things in the trailers make sense now.


I'm so glad you finally got out from under that rock! =D

[ThePowerCosmic]

I'm so glad you finally got out from under that rock! =D

:funny: So am I! I feel pretty ashamed of myself for not watching it earlier.

[Raiden]

Yep, the Godfather 3 itself isn't anywhere near being a bad movie. It's got some bad acting, not naming any names... but i think overall, it was a fitting end to the trilogy. The end on the steps after the opera and when Michael dies alone back in Sicily is powerful stuff.

Nothing against Sophia Coppola, but I think if Winona Ryder had played Al Pacino's daughter the movie would've been better. It's one of those "What ifs?" in the Hollywood.

[Wesley Dodds]

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[Boom]

(Im)patiently waiting for FOX to announce the rating :o.

[ThePowerCosmic]

That tumbleweed gif is just too funny.

[Punisher Rising]

If this movie really is set in the same canon and universe as Alien, I hope it'll be rated R. The series doesn't need another PG-13 disaster after AVP.

[Mace Bloodstone]

This pg-13 push is getting out of hand.

[chamber-music]

The worst was Fox ill fated idea to do a Aliens Saturday morning cartoon series called Operation Aliens back in the early 90s.

http://s16.postimage.org/uu7zebxdh/OP_ALIENS.jpg

The show never made it to air although they did do a pilot epsiode and a bunch of merchandise including the popular 90s Alien action figures.

[Matt Mortem]

An Aliens saturday morning cartoon is without a doubt one of the worst ideas I've ever heard.

[nightwing06]

Thanks Chamber never knew they attempted to make an animated show.I had a few figures from the toy line though.

[regwec]

An Aliens saturday morning cartoon is without a doubt one of the worst ideas I've ever heard.
That Last House on the Left themed episode of the Muppets didn't really work, either.

[Wesley Dodds]

The worst was Fox ill fated idea to do a Aliens Saturday morning cartoon series called Operation Aliens back in the early 90s.

http://s16.postimage.org/uu7zebxdh/OP_ALIENS.jpg

The show never made it to air although they did do a pilot epsiode and a bunch of merchandise including the popular 90s Alien action figures.

Oh, God! I never heard of that before! What a terrible, TERRIBLE idea!

...

Is it wrong that I sorta want to see that pilot, though? :o

[Vickers]

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/7049/prometheusnoomierapace6.jpg
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4458/prometheuscharlizethero.jpg

More images
http://www.flicksandbits.com/2012/04/03/17-new-images-from-ridley-scotts-prometheus/23641/

[Matt Mortem]

Nice find Vickers

[craigdbfan]

They both look great in those shots.

[Kane52630]

Never get tried of looking at Charlize Theron.

[Rowsdower!]

Is it just me, or does Noomi look 10 years older in that photo?

[DACrowe]

She does look quite a bit older than she did in the Dragon Tattoo trilogy which were only shot 3-4 years ago (I think the first was filmed in 2008). Still, she looks good and I hope this is her moment to breakout in Hollywood as a well-known, great actress like the foreign markets already know.

[Raiden]

Never get tried of looking at Charlize Theron.

Me neither. I think Charlize is a classic Hollywood beauty that aged well with the time. She reminds me quite a bit of the legendary Grace Kelly, actually.

[Viscal]

New Ridley Scott Q&A – ‘Don’t f**k around with gods’
http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/dont-f-k-around-with-gods/

[Matt Mortem]

New Ridley Scott Q&A – ‘Don’t f**k around with gods’
http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/dont-f-k-around-with-gods/

That was a good read. I really like Ridley Scott and where he's coming from with this movie.

[Sawyer]

Never get tried of looking at Charlize Theron.

Even if she's playing Aileen Wuornos? :awesome:

[Kane52630]

Even if she's playing Aileen Wuornos? :awesome:

Especially when she's playing Aileen Wuornos! :o

[DBryan]

World's first anthropomimetic robot

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17547694

[Matt Mortem]

World's first anthropomimetic robot

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17547694

My God......it's started

[cherokeesam]

My God......it's started


Beware the Robopocalypse :wow::wow::wow:

[Kane52630]

My God......it's started

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[Matt Mortem]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/PROMNEW010.jpg

I love the spacesuit design in this film. It's different and exciting.

[The Morningstar]

Cool interview with Scott from the last page.

[PROLIFIK1]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/PROMNEW010.jpg

I love the spacesuit design in this film. It's different and exciting.

Agreed! Seeing Charlize in that suit reminds me that a Metroid/Samus can look nice if done right. Their suit kinda reminds me of Samus' blue under-body suit.

[Oberon sexton]

Very much getting a mass effect vibe :up:

[CapedCrusader14]

Very much getting a mass effect vibe :up:

As am I.

[TruerToTheCore]

Those comparisons to video games get pretty lame. Usually it's video games that steal, not the other way round.

[CapedCrusader14]

Well considering that these games have came out many years earlier before this film, it's not hard to make the comparison.

Of course with other films such as Avatar (comparisons to Halo, to which Halo was inspired heavily by Aliens), it's a different story.

[redhawk23]

Those comparisons to video games get pretty lame. Usually it's video games that steal, not the other way round.

Increased influence and role of videogames in our culture?

Videogames with original designs?


Is it really that lame?

[Great Mind(s)]

Okay I'm coming here to talk about Prometheus because everyone on IMDb is insane!

[redhawk23]

http://blog.ted.com/2012/02/28/writing-a-tedtalk-from-the-future-q-a-with-damon-lindelof/

How the TED talk came together. Pretty sweet.

[chamber-music]

There are two people who look like Tom Hardy because it turns out Logan Marshall Green has a twin brother.

[The Morningstar]

Hmmm I've always though that Marshall Green looks a bit more ethnic than Hardy. Like he is his long lost Greek or Italian brother.

[Blue Sugar]

Okay I'm coming here to talk about Prometheus because everyone on IMDb is insane!

Every board on IMDb is just different temperatures of hell.

[Matt Mortem]

There are two people who look like Tom Hardy because it turns out Logan Marshall Green has a twin brother.

Whew, glad I'm not the only one that thought that guy looked like Hardy.

[Rowsdower!]

Don't forget about Corey Stoll too. He looks like a slimmer version of the Bane/Bronson Tom Hardy.

[chamber-music]

Whew, glad I'm not the only one that thought that guy looked like Hardy.
I know people who have seen the trailer and actually thought Tom Hardy was in the movie.

[Great Mind(s)]

Does anyone think Vickers could also be an android? Maybe a "sister" model to David? Possibly a sleeper who thinks she's human?

[Rowsdower!]

Possibly. It looks like something bizarre happens to her.

[Viscal]

If anyone's interested, the same set of EMPIRE pics but 50% greater resolution and without the watermarks.
http://www.PrometheusNews.net/movie/newly-released-stills (http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/newly-released-stills/)

[xmangambit]

I think people are getting carried away with the Robot thing.

[Kane52630]

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[Raiden]

http://i.imgur.com/dPgST.jpg

So Theron is really playing an android in this movie, right?


http://i.imgur.com/JGccj.jpg



I love behind-the-scene photos like this. :woot: Rapace looks like she's having alot of fun here.

[Boom]

They need to hurry up and announce the rating. The suspense is killing me.

[Hunter Rider]

That's Iceland where Noomi is in that pic, right?

[L0ngsh0t]

They need to hurry up and announce the rating. The suspense is killing me.

I've never understood why this is a big deal to people? What if it's rated G? Would that make you not want to see it?

swearing, gore and nudity don't have to be in an intense movie to make it good

[Boom]

I've never understood why this is a big deal to people? What if it's rated G? Would that make you not want to see it?

swearing, gore and nudity don't have to be in an intense movie to make it good
Scott has pretty much said he wants it to be Rated R. Therefore, I'd like to see the film the director wants.

[Raiden]

I've never understood why this is a big deal to people? What if it's rated G? Would that make you not want to see it?

swearing, gore and nudity don't have to be in an intense movie to make it good

I think the trailer pretty much already confirmed that it'd be somewhere between PG-13 and R. Since the original Alien was rated R, I hope Scott will get to keep this rating for Prometheus. Besides, the two AvP movies were rated PG-13 and let's just say it is one of their many problems.

[XEdge]

can't wait for this film!!

[Vickers]

New Revealing Quotes by Prometheus Cast & Crew (http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/new-revealing-quotes/)

What if you could meet God but God turned out to be the Devil?”
Michael Ellenberg, Prometheus executive producer
“Ridley was inspired by everything from the Nazca Lines in Peru, which are these vast Earth sculptures can only be seen from the air, to cave paintings in France, to ancient Egypt and ancient Mayan civilisations. We’re pushing beyond what’s been found thus far and speculating about what maybe found in the future.”
Michael Ellenberg, Prometheus executive producer
“Very loosely, these creatures are some kind of genetic Engineers on an interplanetary level… They go around creating life. In certain ways, they’re kind of God-like.”
Arthur Max, production designer
“a movie based on a philosophy and not an alien. The movie’s intelligence holds you through most its runtime before you get in to all the action. You’re turning the page not just because of what happens but what is said.“
Logan Marshall-Green
“Certainly, it makes an argument that will move away Darwinism, let’s just say!”
Logan Marshall-Green
“It’s about the beginning of life and the eternal ‘what if’… Has this ball we’ve been sitting on right now been around for three billion years or one billion? And if we haven’t been pre-visited (by alien civilisations), then what was this planet doing for all that time before life came along? It’s only our arrogance that says, ‘No, it’s impossible, we’re the first ones.’ Are we the first hominids? I really, really, really doubt it. In recent memory or legend we keep talking about wonderful, weird things such as Atlantis – what is that? Where does that come from? Is that real, was it real, is it a memory, did it exist? And if that did exist, did it exist three quarters of a billion years ago? There’d be nothing left now. How was that created and who was it?”
Ridley Scott
“Ridley first called me in mid-July of (2010),… I’d never met him before, but obviously I was a massive fan of his work. I was driving in my car when the phone rang and a voice on the other end said, ‘Ridley Scott is going to call you in five minutes, are you available?’ After crashing my car and dealing with the immediate aftermath of that, I started talking to Ridley Scott. I was sort of trembling when he called me on the phone and he said he was going to send me a script.”
Damon Lindelof
“He was also driven by these bigger thematic ideas about what this movie could be about… We started having conversations, and as a result of those conversations we worked very closely together for a couple of months, rewriting the script until he was satisfied that it felt like it was its own movie.”
Damon Lindelof
“I think that one of the really interesting ideas that the movie is dealing with… s this sense that space exploration, particularly in the future, is going to start to be not just about going out there and finding planets, so that we can build colonies, or anything else, but also this inherent idea that, the further we go out, perhaps the more we learn about ourselves. And, I think the characters in this movie – some of them at least – are very preoccupied with the idea of, ‘Where did we come from? What are our origins? What is our place in the universe? Are we the only sentient beings, or are there others?’”
Damon Lindelof
“It’s basically about trying to find out if there was intervention in the birth of civilisation on planet Earth by other beings, which we come to know as Engineers, and whether they had a master plan in mind for us.”
Michael Fassbender
“There’s always politics within, and that’s why, I think, this cast got together. The tempo, the pace, the intelligence of the script; each person has got their own agenda on that ship and it’s each a very individual agenda. Some people are there for the pay. Other people are there to get answers. Other people are there to hopefully attain some sort of secret. Others are there in somewhat of a spite journey. You’ve got all these collective relationships, individuals and motivations and that’s what makes quite intriguing even before the **** hits the fan.”
Michael Fassbender
“I thought there was tremendous potential to explore themes that the script was already exploring, through the eyes of a character that was so different from everybody else who’s on this mission… You have these scientists going out there – one is a believer, one really isn’t – and you play on all these themes, but to really experience all of that stuff from the point of view of somebody who comes from a much more cold, economic, business suit sense of it was interesting.”
Charlize Theron

[XEdge]

New Revealing Quotes by Prometheus Cast & Crew (http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/new-revealing-quotes/)

sounds fantastic!!! :wow:

[Boom]

There's something about the Space Jockeys that has always intrigued me.

In Alien, the Jockey's nose seems to be attached to the lower abdomen, which means it's highly unlikely that it was used for breathing. So what, then, is its purpose - assuming its not just a bizarre design choice?

[dark_b]

They need to hurry up and announce the rating. The suspense is killing me.do you know about the TED movie? its Mark Whalberg comedy about a teddy bear who talks. its a R rated movie. last week they realesed a R rated trailer and this week a green band trailer. this is how you know what a rating a movie will have. no r rated traielrs have been realesed for prometheus. if it was r rated they would show a r rated trailer.

its over. its pg13.

[dark_b]

I've never understood why this is a big deal to people? What if it's rated G? Would that make you not want to see it?

swearing, gore and nudity don't have to be in an intense movie to make it goodyou wrotte a good post. but based on your post you have no idea what rating means and how it works in hollywood. first of if it was G rated then noone would watch the movie. because cartoons (not pixar cartoons) are g rated. second swearing,gore and nudity is not the only reason why you would get a r rating.

[redhawk23]

I've never understood why this is a big deal to people? What if it's rated G? Would that make you not want to see it?

swearing, gore and nudity don't have to be in an intense movie to make it good

or we want intensity on the level on an r rated film, and forgive me if I think its silly when a film has people being violently killed and theres not a speck of blood (war horse was bizarre in that respect.

[redhawk23]

do you know about the TED movie? its Mark Whalberg comedy about a teddy bear who talks. its a R rated movie. last week they realesed a R rated trailer and this week a green band trailer. this is how you know what a rating a movie will have. no r rated traielrs have been realesed for prometheus. if it was r rated they would show a r rated trailer.

its over. its pg13.

Not all r rated movies get red band tailers.

In fact more or less the only red band trailers that come out are for foul mouthed comedies like TED.

plus now TED is rolling out general audience trailers as well.

[The Morningstar]

I've never understood why this is a big deal to people? What if it's rated G? Would that make you not want to see it?

swearing, gore and nudity don't have to be in an intense movie to make it good

Why do people assume people want swearing, gore and nudity just because they want it rated r? And yea if it was G i wouldn't see it.

[CapedCrusader14]

I wouldn't see it if it was G either.

[redhawk23]

Hey man don't knock the G rating.

At differing times of history the G rating could get you Charleston Heston's bare ass, forced lobotomies, and mutants peeling their faces off.

Goddamn I love the Planet of the Apes.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

or we want intensity on the level on an r rated film, and forgive me if I think its silly when a film has people being violently killed and theres not a speck of blood (war horse was bizarre in that respect.

Have to agree with this, while I loved the movie it was strange seeing war scene's and mass killing with not one spec of blood, took me out of the movie sometimes.

[Vickers]

New 'Discovering Prometheus' app launched on Facebook. Exclusive content will be released each week.
https://www.facebook.com/PrometheusMovieUK/app_425614620787718?ref=ts

https://apps.facebook.com/starmap_uk/

[Viscal]

http://i.imgur.com/ZY6eF.jpg
http://goo.gl/Vr2Gw

[Thebumwhowalks]

http://i.imgur.com/ZY6eF.jpg
http://goo.gl/Vr2Gw

Holy crap, haha, I don't know what the indicia is saying, but I imagine it is saying "Nioomi Rapace stars in...JAW 3D!!!"
surely they could have picked a more flattering photo.

[cherokeesam]

New Revealing Quotes by Prometheus Cast & Crew (http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/new-revealing-quotes/)


I'm glad Ridley has finally tackled what, to me, is the toughest issue humanity will face on the whole first contact issue....namely, the impact the existence of aliens will have on organized religion. The only other movie I can recall that kinda sorta flirted with the concept was Contact, the film based on Michael Crichton's novel; but it wasn't a major part of the movie. In Prometheus, it's the central issue.

The mere existence of aliens would create profound questions for long-established dogma of religions like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism. Where do aliens fit in the Bible, or the Koran? Do they believe in God/Allah/Brahma? Do they have a religion of their own?

[marvelman2006]

I like that statment of what if you could meet god and he was the devil. Its been far too long since weve have a deep scifi movie and I hope this washes away those AVP movies that turned the xenomorphs into a mindless beast who lined up to get shot by the predators.

[L0ngsh0t]

I think the trailer pretty much already confirmed that it'd be somewhere between PG-13 and R. Since the original Alien was rated R, I hope Scott will get to keep this rating for Prometheus. Besides, the two AvP movies were rated PG-13 and let's just say it is one of their many problems.

The problem with AVP is it just isn't a good movie, the raiting has nothing to do with it.

[L0ngsh0t]

Why do people assume people want swearing, gore and nudity just because they want it rated r? And yea if it was G i wouldn't see it.

Why else would it be rated R?

They aren't going to rate a movie R just because it is a serious movie....the R raiting is because there are elements in a movie that kids under 17 shouldn't see without parental supervision etc....you could make a perfectly intense, adult movie without using any elements that are required of an R raiting

[The Morningstar]

Why else would it be rated R?

They aren't going to rate a movie R just because it is a serious movie....the R raiting is because there are elements in a movie that kids under 17 shouldn't see without parental supervision etc....you could make a perfectly intense, adult movie without using any elements that are required of an R raiting

It's about the tone, the atmosphere, what the characters are going through.

The first Alien, even if you took out every drop of blood, would still be rated R. The same could be said of Aliens.

John Carpenter's Halloween. Barely any blood at all. Still R.

This film is about humans first contact with aliens, and the psychological effects that brings. Also looking at the trailer there is a real sense of horror in the second half of it. With Noomi Rapace convulsing on a medical table apparently "giving birth" to some creature, a guy with his eye balls leaking fluid, people on the radio screaming "cut it off! cut it off!" All that sounds like an R rated movie to me.

[dark_b]

Why else would it be rated R?

i bet you are one of those people who doesnt have a problem with movie ratings. but when you watch a bad action and fight scenes in the summer you complain that the director doesnt know how to shoot action . newsflash. its because of the rating.

and then i have to read for 10 years ''doooh how come the matrix movies were r rated. they didnt show a lot blood and nudity.'' hmmmm maybe because they showed almost all full contact fight scenes with no shaky cam? maybe because they showed people dying on screen in a close up?

[The Morningstar]

So stunt guys who fall over before being hit do that because of the rating? lol come off it.

If this movie pushes the very limit of pg-13 and i still get the scary, thought provoking sci fi film i want? I'll be happy.

I'm just saying a movie isn't necessarily r rated just because of blood and swearing. I mean, the whole idea of being impregnated by an alien and giving birth to a creature? That doesn't sound like PG-13 material to me. Whether it's explicitly shown or not, that whole idea, that concept, is... horrific.

[dark_b]

So stunt guys who fall over before being hit do that because of the rating? lol come off it.
.i am a huge action and fighting fan. i know what is allowed in pg13action and fighting scenes and what not.

[The Morningstar]

Yea and so am i. Bad choreography and stunt work is bad choreography and stunt work. Bourne Ultimatum is PG-13 is it not? Full contact fight scenes. Some of which were pretty damn brutal.

[Marvolo]

Are people really this clueless about the rating system?

Watch This Film is Not Yet Rated if anyone wants to know the hypocritical mess that is the US rating system.

The ratings board does not accept precedent meaning what flies in one film may not in the next. In the appeals process the defendant or the director is not allowed to argue his case by citing what another film got by with. What does this mean? It means there is absolutely no point for people here to argue why this film or any film should be one rating based on what another film did. The ratings board does not work that way or think that way. This film will get whatever rating they slap it with and like most films in America its rating will have very little logical rhyme or reason.

I strongly suggest This Film is Not Yet Rated.

[Kane52630]

dark_b this should be your new avvy:

http://i.imgur.com/T0h2k.png

[dark_b]

dark_b this should be your new avvy:

funny. but i am serious. and this is no time for joking. we have a big problem with ratings in hollywood.

for example look at this. 90% of people think that this is a bad directed and choreographed fighting shot. its a fact that it looks like this because of the pg13 rating. they can NOT show scarlett's touching his head.

http://i.imgur.com/L3vxF.gif (http://imgur.com/L3vxF)
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=22862023&postcount=238

[The Morningstar]

Yea they can, and the did. Her opening attack is to kick the guy straight in the balls. That hair whip thing is a bit too silly for my taste, but that is what was intended, it's not an attempt at a head butt.

Bourne Ultimatum, although it has shakey cam, clearly shows the blows landing. Including one moment when a guy gets smashed in the throat with a hardback book.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm fine with this movie being PG:13 as long as it's a good, intelligent sci fi film.

[Kane52630]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88929

https://apps.facebook.com/starmap_uk/

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http://i.imgur.com/YBUXH.jpg

[Infinity9999x]

It's about the tone, the atmosphere, what the characters are going through.

The first Alien, even if you took out every drop of blood, would still be rated R. The same could be said of Aliens.

John Carpenter's Halloween. Barely any blood at all. Still R.

This film is about humans first contact with aliens, and the psychological effects that brings. Also looking at the trailer there is a real sense of horror in the second half of it. With Noomi Rapace convulsing on a medical table apparently "giving birth" to some creature, a guy with his eye balls leaking fluid, people on the radio screaming "cut it off! cut it off!" All that sounds like an R rated movie to me.

I would argue that were Alien made today and you took out the blood, it would most definitely be Pg-13. The ratings have let a lot more slide with Pg-13 lately. LOTR and TDK for example. And then other horror movies. Take The Grudge. It has a very adult tone, and some very disturbing visuals. No blood though, so still Pg-13.

I would be highly surprised if a bloodless Alien ended up being R in todays rating. Same with Aliens. In fact, even more so fo Aliens. That movie was much more an action scifi, and had less of the foreboding tone.

[chamber-music]

Bet that hologram stuff will look cool in 3D even though I'm not a huge 3D fan

[marvelman2006]

That 3rd shot intrigues me greatly.

[Monsieur Xavier]

^^
Space Jokey ship's cargo hold with the "eggs" I say.

[antsman41]

That 3rd shot intrigues me greatly.

Looks like David(?) is holding a egg like case with an alien in it...

[Monsieur Xavier]

funny. but i am serious. and this is no time for joking. we have a big problem with ratings in hollywood.

for example look at this. 90% of people think that this is a bad directed and choreographed fighting shot. its a fact that it looks like this because of the pg13 rating. they can NOT show scarlett's touching his head.

http://i.imgur.com/L3vxF.gif (http://imgur.com/L3vxF)
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=22862023&postcount=238

She uses her hair to hurt the guy eyes, that is why.

[ThePowerCosmic]

It's about the tone, the atmosphere, what the characters are going through.

The first Alien, even if you took out every drop of blood, would still be rated R. The same could be said of Aliens.

John Carpenter's Halloween. Barely any blood at all. Still R.

This film is about humans first contact with aliens, and the psychological effects that brings. Also looking at the trailer there is a real sense of horror in the second half of it. With Noomi Rapace convulsing on a medical table apparently "giving birth" to some creature, a guy with his eye balls leaking fluid, people on the radio screaming "cut it off! cut it off!" All that sounds like an R rated movie to me.

I thought they were screaming "Get it off! Get it off!!"

Yea they can, and the did. Her opening attack is to kick the guy straight in the balls. That hair whip thing is a bit too silly for my taste, but that is what was intended, it's not an attempt at a head butt.


I think that was supposed to be a head butt, but it didn't land like it should have. Seems like a hiccup to me.

[chamber-music]

She uses her hair to hurt the guy eyes, that is why.
I think its supposed to be a backwards headbutt :funny:

[Figs]

She uses her hair to hurt the guy eyes, that is why.

Even if that's the case, it looks fairly godawful. Who in the hell is going to feel pain from someone's hair briefly smacking them in the face. :doh:

[Monsieur Xavier]

Even if that's the case, it looks fairly godawful. Who in the hell is going to feel pain from someone's hair briefly smacking them in the face. :doh:

The eyes, not the face :doh:

[Figs]

The eyes, not the face :doh:

Still, the way he falls back in pain is ridiculous and overdone. I guess part of my complaining is the fact that I can't take Scarjo seriously as a tough girl.

[Monsieur Xavier]

^^
I was just describing what I saw in that gif....maybe I am wrong and it is a bad backward headbonk, I don't know but it is of no importance IMO and will be invisible in the movie ( I think ).

[Mace Bloodstone]

Why limit it with a pg-13 rating (can't show this, can't show that, can't say that) to hell with that... This isn't a campy kiddy movie.

[Boom]

Why else would it be rated R?

They aren't going to rate a movie R just because it is a serious movie....the R raiting is because there are elements in a movie that kids under 17 shouldn't see without parental supervision etc....you could make a perfectly intense, adult movie without using any elements that are required of an R raiting
Don't Be Afraid of the Dark had little-to-no gore, cursing, and nudity, and was still given an R rating because it was deemed "too intense."

[Snikt]

I would be highly surprised if a bloodless Alien ended up being R in todays rating. Same with Aliens. In fact, even more so fo Aliens. That movie was much more an action scifi, and had less of the foreboding tone.

ALIENS would most definitely be R-Rated by today's standards. There's a total of 25 F-bombs...18 of them spoken by Hudson :D

[marvelman2006]

^^
Space Jokey ship's cargo hold with the "eggs" I say.


I can see that unless it ends up being a room that is just trippie. I really hope they give the actors time to really explore the ship and not just do a quick once over like in the original where they didnt spend alot of time there. I cant help but keep thinking that if its aliens eggs that it wont be facehuggers but rather the early stages of mankind or something mindblowing like that.

I keep thinking:


They somehow travel back into time by accident while in space and they find the engineers as there setting up mankinds early beginnings. Hence davids line in the trailers.

[The Morningstar]

I think the first Alien certainly would still be R. Just from the atmosphere and tone, plus it has an alien that "face rapes" people, impregnating them, then the little bugger eats its way out of the victims chest. Even if none of that was shown, just the concept of that is strictly adult material.

[superkong 500]

I think the first Alien certainly would still be R. Just from the atmosphere and tone, plus it has an alien that "face rapes" people, impregnating them, then the little bugger eats its way out of the victims chest. Even if none of that was shown, just the concept of that is strictly adult material.

not necessarily because of that, avp 1 had facehugger scenes and a foreboding atmosphere and it was still pg-13. The very graphic chest burster scene along with the quick shots of the aliens second set of jaws breaking through skulls is what gave alien its R rating and would still today.

[The Morningstar]

Fair point. I also think the scene with Ash "malfunctioning" was pretty shocking. Spewing up all that white liquid, then getting decapitated but still fighting back.

[superkong 500]

I wonder how the space jockey will attack his victims seeing as it looks like doesn't have any hand weapons or spiky appendages . Is he going to just grab them and choke them? maybe he does have some hidden appendage that makes him look more "alien".

[chamber-music]

Guy Pearce Is on the BBC's The One Show Today he briefly talked about Prometheus saying it works as a standalone movie

[xmangambit]

Looks like David(?) is holding a egg like case with an alien in it...

lol thats his helmet dude, look carefully its not on his head anymore

[superkong 500]

edit

[Viscal]

Harry Gregson-William Supplements Prometheus Score
Prolific English composer Harry Gregson-William divulged on his Facebook page that he has worked on supplementing the Prometheus score of lead composer Marc Streitenfeld.
http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/harry-gregson-william

[Bruce Banner]

I'm glad Ridley has finally tackled what, to me, is the toughest issue humanity will face on the whole first contact issue....namely, the impact the existence of aliens will have on organized religion. The only other movie I can recall that kinda sorta flirted with the concept was Contact, the film based on Michael Crichton's novel; but it wasn't a major part of the movie. In Prometheus, it's the central issue.

The mere existence of aliens would create profound questions for long-established dogma of religions like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism. Where do aliens fit in the Bible, or the Koran? Do they believe in God/Allah/Brahma? Do they have a religion of their own?

My main reason for getting hyped for this. I'm sure that it's something that I would have to watch without my heavily religious family(I'm not). But, I don't care, it's an interesting idea and I'm glad Ridley is tackling the subject.

[Matt Mortem]

My main reason for getting hyped for this. I'm sure that it's something that I would have to watch without my heavily religious family(I'm not). But, I don't care, it's an interesting idea and I'm glad Ridley is tackling the subject.

That's what's drawing me to the film as well. I love it when Sci-Fi tackles questions and ideas that could be taboo or really force you to examine and think.

[Bruce Banner]

That's what's drawing me to the film as well. I love it when Sci-Fi tackles questions and ideas that could be taboo or really force you to examine and think.

Definitely, I found the taboo subject matters to be the ones that I'm drawn to the most. I'm all for tackling the unknown and the mystery with questions.

[Matt Mortem]

Definitely, I found the taboo subject matters to be the ones that I'm drawn to the most. I'm all for tackling the unknown and the mystery with questions.

Oh me too. I was always of the mind that it was our (humanities) purpose to ask questions and dig deeper. Why else would be possess the ability to reason at such a high level compared to every other species on the earth? I do like that Prometheus (both the movie and the mythological tale) caution us in our search for knowledge. It's an interesting dichotomy.

[Infinity9999x]

ALIENS would most definitely be R-Rated by today's standards. There's a total of 25 F-bombs...18 of them spoken by Hudson :D

Okay, yeah I forgot about that haha. You'd have to take out the F-bombs obviously.

[Schlosser85]

I find Ancient Aliens interesting when it speculates about aliens helping ancient civilizations, so it's part of the interest to me that Prometheus is working off this premise.

That, and I love Alien and Aliens, and I like Ridley Scott, Charlize Theron, and Michael Fassbender.

[DoomsdayApex]

I like the show, but sometimes the contributors go alittle over-the-top. The best parts of the show definitely revolve around the ancient astronauts lending a helping hand to the early civilizations.

Feats that scream out 'extraterrestrial' would undoubtedly have to be brain surgery and cities constructed of massive stones.

[KRIM]

That show is such a guilty pleasure of mine. The skeptic and logical part of me is embarrassed at the amount of speculative insight some of those supposed experts give. Conversely, the sci-fi nerd and fantasy seeking kid part of me is in awe of the possibilities these theories give. If only for their creative prospects which hopefully will come to pass in full glory with Prometheus.

[Slushy]

Too bad the trailer spoiled the movie for me. I was wanting to find out that its infact the Alien prequel when I actually watched it. Ugh!

[redhawk23]

http://i.imgur.com/7ZfIS.jpg

someone should animate some layers of fog and turn this into a cinemagraph.

[Sentinel X]

She uses her hair to hurt the guy eyes, that is why. :funny: ...if thats true then I love how he grabs his nose right after.

[Monsieur Xavier]

:funny: ...if thats true then I love how he grabs his nose right after.

Then look better :funny:

[dude love]

Still, the way he falls back in pain is ridiculous and overdone. I guess part of my complaining is the fact that I can't take Scarjo seriously as a tough girl.

Even funnier, is that scene was written and directed by one of the people responsible for decline of the Alien series. What gets me the most is that of all the films to rip off, surely Whedon could find one less recent than Killer Elite.

[The Morningstar]

The Avengers script was written and production started long before Killer Elite came out.

And the best part of Resurrection was Michael Wincott's (coolest voice ever btw) team. The characters were cool, the plot? Not so much.

[Wesley Dodds]

What's interesting about Resurrection's crew is that they were all knda rough around the edges prototypes for what the Serenity crew would turn out to be.
Think about it.

[The Morningstar]

Yea pretty much. Pearlman's character for example is clearly similar to Baldwin's character.

[Wesley Dodds]

They're basically the parallel universe, R-Rated Serenity crew. LOL.

[Wesley Dodds]

Eeeuuuch, I just LOL'd. I NEVER LOL... weird.

[The Morningstar]

"If we wanna make a decent time i say we ditch the cripple. No offense man"

"None taken!"

haha i love that scene.

[dude love]

The Avengers script was written and production started long before Killer Elite came out.


Killer Elite was in the can by 2010, Avengers filmed during 2011. The KE trailer debuted in June of 2011, while Avengers was still in principal photography for another two months.

But you know.... Prometheus... It's gonna be awesome.

[The Morningstar]

Killer Elite wasn't released until last September though was it? So unless Whedon saw it in 2010 i don't see how he ripped anything off.

[TheWiseGuy487]

You know, I'm excited for Prometheus, but I'm really getting tired of people bashing other movies in order to make a movie like this one look good.

Hell, I've read that people who have been to screenings of The Avengers say that it's a great, entertaining film with lots of action and great chemistry and interaction between all of the characters.

[cherokeesam]

I like the show, but sometimes the contributors go alittle over-the-top. The best parts of the show definitely revolve around the ancient astronauts lending a helping hand to the early civilizations.

Feats that scream out 'extraterrestrial' would undoubtedly have to be brain surgery and cities constructed of massive stones.


"I don't know; therefore, aliens" :oldrazz:


"Sometimes" it goes over the top...?? I think it *always* goes over the top. The speculation is always fun, but these guys seem totally incapable of using words like "maybe," "could be," and "possibly"....instead, they deal in absolutes. Like it's common knowledge that the aliens were here and did this and did that.

There's plenty of mysteries in the ancient world, but quite a bit of this is just simply modern man completely underestimating ancient man. For instance, whenever someone discovers that an ancient site has very definite astronomical and calendrical qualities to it (Stonehenge, Copan and the like), they automatically jump to the conclusion that the only reason humans could have or want advanced astronomical knowledge is to "communicate with the Star People." Here's a simpler explanation: it was the dawn of agriculture. Farmers need to know when to plant and when to harvest, so they need a calendar, and they need to know when to expect solstices and equinoxes and plan their crops accordingly. Ever look at a Farmer's Almanac....? Not exactly hi-tech stuff, but it's filled with astronomical info that's important to the planting and harvesting season.

[Blue Sugar]

You know, I'm excited for Prometheus, but I'm really getting tired of people bashing other movies in order to make a movie like this one look good.

Hell, I've read that people who have been to screenings of The Avengers say that it's a great, entertaining film with lots of action and great chemistry and interaction between all of the characters.

Oh I so agree. I hate that to some it seems impossible that several of these big films can be loved and/or liked by one person.

It might turn out that I really like and/or love all of these big nerdy genrefilms coming out. The Avengers, Prometheus, The Amazing Spider-Man and The Dark Knight Rises . I mean at this point with all the trailers out it seems more likely than not.

And I will hate all the comparisons, taking sides and team this, team that.

[DoomsdayApex]

"I don't know; therefore, aliens" :oldrazz:


"Sometimes" it goes over the top...?? I think it *always* goes over the top. The speculation is always fun, but these guys seem totally incapable of using words like "maybe," "could be," and "possibly"....instead, they deal in absolutes. Like it's common knowledge that the aliens were here and did this and did that.

There's plenty of mysteries in the ancient world, but quite a bit of this is just simply modern man completely underestimating ancient man. For instance, whenever someone discovers that an ancient site has very definite astronomical and calendrical qualities to it (Stonehenge, Copan and the like), they automatically jump to the conclusion that the only reason humans could have or want advanced astronomical knowledge is to "communicate with the Star People." Here's a simpler explanation: it was the dawn of agriculture. Farmers need to know when to plant and when to harvest, so they need a calendar, and they need to know when to expect solstices and equinoxes and plan their crops accordingly. Ever look at a Farmer's Almanac....? Not exactly hi-tech stuff, but it's filled with astronomical info that's important to the planting and harvesting season.

No, I completely understand, albeit I am a 'believer' in the ancient astronaut theory. The panel of experts featured on the show can be a little out there, but when I do watch the show I tend to formulate my own theories, and objectively view their theories. I do miss the critic section of the show though.

It's difficult NOT to underestimate man, especially in ancient times. Now, I'm not saying everything that is a mystery is because of 'aliens' but, for instance, removing brain tumors successfully with stone tools and without the aid of X-Rays is a bit too 'impressive' for a farming society in the Pre-Colombian Era.

I'd like to think that our ancestors were this naturally gifted in the science and medical field, but there's a few things out there that make stand up from your seat and question whether or not man was capable of such things without the aid of technology and modern knowledge.

[The Morningstar]

I believe in the theory of evolution. I also believe that we must have had a "helping hand" along the way.

And like Scott says, the idea that we, mankind, are the only intelligent lifeform in he universe is incredibly arrogant and small minded. I think there is more chance of there being another civilisation somewhere out there than not.

[regwec]

It might be small minded to suppose that there are no other intelligent lifeforms, but is fantasy to imagine that human civilization is the work of alien beings. The statistical likelihood of Earth ever being visited by beings from another planet is so remote that it makes you begin to laugh out loud when you consider it- and then remember that there is absolutely no physical evidence to support the hypothesis.

The fact is that human technology and learning has reached peaks and troughs roughly conforming to the economic and social security of sedentary populations. You need human and material resources, as well as time and intellectual freedom in order to advance science and experimentation. Populations that exist on the verge cannot spare these resources from the daily toil for survival. Socially settled, surplus producing civilizations like Old Kingdom Egypt, Imperial Rome or ancient China were able to foster an elite with time and money on their hands which could be spent in intellectual pursuits or in constructing megalithic architecture. But civilization is fragile: famine, plague, genocide and social strife can erupt at any time, and wash away all the progress- Western Europe became a materially and intellectually poorer place after the fall of Rome. Medieval Christianity held medical science back for centuries by forbidding dissection. This is why ancient peoples can appear to be more advanced than they 'should' have been during their time, and more advanced than their later successors: the conditions were right.

There's plenty of mysteries in the ancient world, but quite a bit of this is just simply modern man completely underestimating ancient man. For instance, whenever someone discovers that an ancient site has very definite astronomical and calendrical qualities to it (Stonehenge, Copan and the like), they automatically jump to the conclusion that the only reason humans could have or want advanced astronomical knowledge is to "communicate with the Star People." Here's a simpler explanation: it was the dawn of agriculture. Farmers need to know when to plant and when to harvest, so they need a calendar, and they need to know when to expect solstices and equinoxes and plan their crops accordingly. Ever look at a Farmer's Almanac....? Not exactly hi-tech stuff, but it's filled with astronomical info that's important to the planting and harvesting season.

An excellent post: it is heartening to see reason in use here.

[The Morningstar]

Well yes of course the whole "visitation" thing is only a theory. How long has Earth been around though? Billions of years? If there was a civilisation a billion years ago there probably wouldn't be evidence of it now.

But let's just say Earth is a single grain of sand in the Sahara Desert. I think it's stupid to say that our little grain of sand is the only one in the whole desert that has life or some kind of civilisation. It's actually absurd if you think about it.

[regwec]

I certainly wouldn't suggest that is. The truth is that we have very little understanding of how adaptable 'life' might be. There might even be microbes beneath the sands of Mars, and who knows how far you need to go to find something that walks and talks?

But while the size and scale of the universe makes the existence of life extremely likely, it also makes the probability of it having visited us extraordinarily unlikely, because the distances involved are mind boggling and our solar system has total anonymity amongst all the billions of others.

[The Morningstar]

Indeed. It is interesting to think about. That's why i'm so interested in this film.

[DoomsdayApex]

It might be small minded to suppose that there are no other intelligent lifeforms, but is fantasy to imagine that human civilization is the work of alien beings. The statistical likelihood of Earth ever being visited by beings from another planet is so remote that it makes you begin to laugh out loud when you consider it- and then remember that there is absolutely no physical evidence to support the hypothesis.

Damn, then I'd like to see the statistics for a giant bearded man in the sky declaring 'let there be light' or 'life, finds a way'. :o

You can disagree with theories revolving around ancient astronauts lending a helping hand in evolution and/or ancient societies, but that's just your critical observation/opinion.

Scientists still aren't certain on how micro-organisms just happened to come into existence on Earth. A popular theory, nowadays, is asteroids or meteorites containing these organisms/bacteria were onboard when they smacked into our planet. Hell, the field's best theory as to how the universe began (The Big Bang) is now starting to have skeptics.

I mean, even Einstein's statistics indicating that nothing in the universe could move faster than the speed of light were debunked with the discovery of Tachyonic-Neutrinos.

[The Morningstar]

The moral of the story is... us humans are insignificant and our knowledge of how the universe works is extremely limited.

[DoomsdayApex]

The moral of the story is... us humans are insignificant and our knowledge of how the universe works is extremely limited.

Exactly. I've longed accepted that us humans may never know the secrets of the universe. And even if we do, we may never grasp the answers. Perhaps the answers are just beyond our understanding.

[The Morningstar]

Yup, it's the whole Lovecraftian angle. Some things are just beyond human comprehension.

I find it funny when people are like "Oh there can't be any other life out there, because we know that bla bla bla is needed for life to evolve".

Yea, how do we know that? These "rules" of evolution and how life starts and how the universe works are just man made rules. Theories created by man.

[Kane52630]

http://arco2002.deviantart.com/art/Big-Things-294312440

http://i.imgur.com/5ZByu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/D6kzz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5bbuo.jpg

[The Morningstar]

Very cool. Is it the same guy who does all those retro style posters Kane?

[Kane52630]

Very cool. Is it the same guy who does all those retro style posters Kane?

The art deco Batman posters? nah that's from rodolforever.

[DoomsdayApex]

Yup, it's the whole Lovecraftian angle. Some things are just beyond human comprehension.

I find it funny when people are like "Oh there can't be any other life out there, because we know that bla bla bla is needed for life to evolve".

Yea, how do we know that? These "rules" of evolution and how life starts and how the universe works are just man made rules. Theories created by man.

That's my sentiment.

I consider myself an open-minded individual, so other theories don't bother me. What bothers me is the dismissal of intelligent life outside or within our own galaxy. We're human, our theories are not absolute.

[Matt Mortem]

Finally saw the trailer on the big screen. It looked even more phenomenal. This movie is gonna blow peoples minds.

[regwec]

Damn, then I'd like to see the statistics for a giant bearded man in the sky declaring 'let there be light' or 'life, finds a way'. :o
No real probability. To give them credit, even people who do believe in a supreme being tend not to think of it as a 'giant bearded man' nowadays.

You can disagree with theories revolving around ancient astronauts lending a helping hand in evolution and/or ancient societies, but that's just your critical observation/opinion.
I'm not 'disagreeing' with anything as such, I am just saying that it is so unlikely that it barely merits consideration. Obviously, I am expressing my own view.

Scientists still aren't certain on how micro-organisms just happened to come into existence on Earth. A popular theory, nowadays, is asteroids or meteorites containing these organisms/bacteria were onboard when they smacked into our planet. Hell, the field's best theory as to how the universe began (The Big Bang) is now starting to have skeptics.

I mean, even Einstein's statistics indicating that nothing in the universe could move faster than the speed of light were debunked with the discovery of Tachyonic-Neutrinos.

You're right to say that scientists don't know everything. Scientists themselves are the first to point this out, and it is the starting point of all empirical research. What you shouldn't think is that science can't explain everything. It can, because 'science' is really just a description of explaining the physical through evidence and experimentation.

Allied to that point is that the role of the scientist is to challenge all 'accepted' knowledge. This is why scientists publish their methods and data in tedious detail- so that other scientists can review it and challenge it. Theories are improved and strengthened by this process. For instance, Isaac Newton's theory of gravity is much more complete today.

The point I would seek to make is that you shouldn't take the inevitable fact that scientists don't know everything to be a supporting argument for something that is overwhelmingly unlikely- like human progress being the work of alien visitors. There is nothing wrong with science fiction, but you should apply the same scepticism to it as you would any other fiction.

Yup, it's the whole Lovecraftian angle. Some things are just beyond human comprehension.

I find it funny when people are like "Oh there can't be any other life out there, because we know that bla bla bla is needed for life to evolve".

Yea, how do we know that? These "rules" of evolution and how life starts and how the universe works are just man made rules. Theories created by man.

You're right to say that the cognitive ability of a human being is limited. I am currently reading a very dense book on the Reformation, and I am lucky if I can recall half of the names and dates from one chapter as I move to the next.

Nevertheless, we're really just talking about probabilities here. I agree with everyone else here that there is almost certainly alien life, and most probably intelligent alien life, elsewhere in the universe. The sheer size that physicists think the universe is makes it seem inevitable. All the same, the distances involved also render the possibility of an alien visit very remote. It is more likely now that we are sending radio waves out into space all the time, but before the last few hundred years we would have been an entirely silent an anonymous planet. You must also consider that there is no evidence for any alien visitors. What are the chances that they visited us, made a significant impact on our development, but left no evidence at all? Nothing is impossible, but I'm not sure that it is much more likely than any of the creation myths of the world's religions.

Your last point is a good one- what are the 'rules' for life? You can find a broad mix of views on this subject. It seems that there must be some 'rules', otherwise every planet, moon and asteroid would support life. An atmosphere seems like a certainty, but what constitutes a breathable one? The planet must surely have a temperature low enough for elements not to vaporize, but high enough for chemical reactions to take place. But what is the 'sweet spot'? We know what our ideal conditions are, but we have never found alien life, and we don't know how different it might be to the animals and plants on Earth, so how can we say how universal our concept of ideal conditions is?

That's my sentiment.

I consider myself an open-minded individual, so other theories don't bother me. What bothers me is the dismissal of intelligent life outside or within our own galaxy. We're human, our theories are not absolute.
Of course no theory is 'absolute', otherwise we wouldn't describe it as a theory. We are just considering probabilities by extrapolating on data that we do have. So I would say that 'intelligent life outside our galaxy' = overwhelmingly likely, and 'intelligent life inside our galaxy = much less likely but certainly not impossible'.

[Viscal]

Our Prometheus 20-min new footage summary is not made yet, but UPDATES of said new footage is coming in fast and furious
http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/525

[chamber-music]

WTF The giant head statue moves :wow::woot:

[Kane52630]

^yeah that's gonna be freaky.


also

When quizzed about whether or not there will be a "chestburster" scene, Ridley Scott mentions there is a scene with similar shock value that was filmed with only Noomi Rapace on a closed set.
:wow::wow:

[Blue Sugar]

I don't believe ancient aliens created life on earth, but I also don't believe there are killer aliens in space with acid for blood.

[antsman41]

I've always felt the "gods" that have helped the Egyptians, the Mayans, etc along the way were just aliens...

I'm happy, this feels like the main idea behind Prometheus.

[chamber-music]

Stargate movie/tv series spin off had Alien gods too.

[jonathancrane]

I don't believe ancient aliens created life on earth, but I also don't believe there are killer aliens in space with acid for blood.

You do know the film is fantasy marketed in the science fiction genre, right? It's akin to watching Captain America, and stating, "We didn't win the war because of Captain America...cause he's not real." The film is not trying to replace science or mythology; it is an exercise in fantasy on a subject that surfaces in all of our lives, at some point.

[nocomics]

No real probability. To give them credit, even people who do believe in a supreme being tend not to think of it as a 'giant bearded man' nowadays.


I'm not 'disagreeing' with anything as such, I am just saying that it is so unlikely that it barely merits consideration. Obviously, I am expressing my own view.



You're right to say that scientists don't know everything. Scientists themselves are the first to point this out, and it is the starting point of all empirical research. What you shouldn't think is that science can't explain everything. It can, because 'science' is really just a description of explaining the physical through evidence and experimentation.

Allied to that point is that the role of the scientist is to challenge all 'accepted' knowledge. This is why scientists publish their methods and data in tedious detail- so that other scientists can review it and challenge it. Theories are improved and strengthened by this process. For instance, Isaac Newton's theory of gravity is much more complete today.

The point I would seek to make is that you shouldn't take the inevitable fact that scientists don't know everything to be a supporting argument for something that is overwhelmingly unlikely- like human progress being the work of alien visitors. There is nothing wrong with science fiction, but you should apply the same scepticism to it as you would any other fiction.



You're right to say that the cognitive ability of a human being is limited. I am currently reading a very dense book on the Reformation, and I am lucky if I can recall half of the names and dates from one chapter as I move to the next.

Nevertheless, we're really just talking about probabilities here. I agree with everyone else here that there is almost certainly alien life, and most probably intelligent alien life, elsewhere in the universe. The sheer size that physicists think the universe is makes it seem inevitable. All the same, the distances involved also render the possibility of an alien visit very remote. It is more likely now that we are sending radio waves out into space all the time, but before the last few hundred years we would have been an entirely silent an anonymous planet. You must also consider that there is no evidence for any alien visitors. What are the chances that they visited us, made a significant impact on our development, but left no evidence at all? Nothing is impossible, but I'm not sure that it is much more likely than any of the creation myths of the world's religions.

Your last point is a good one- what are the 'rules' for life? You can find a broad mix of views on this subject. It seems that there must be some 'rules', otherwise every planet, moon and asteroid would support life. An atmosphere seems like a certainty, but what constitutes a breathable one? The planet must surely have a temperature low enough for elements not to vaporize, but high enough for chemical reactions to take place. But what is the 'sweet spot'? We know what our ideal conditions are, but we have never found alien life, and we don't know how different it might be to the animals and plants on Earth, so how can we say how universal our concept of ideal conditions is?


Of course no theory is 'absolute', otherwise we wouldn't describe it as a theory. We are just considering probabilities by extrapolating on data that we do have. So I would say that 'intelligent life outside our galaxy' = overwhelmingly likely, and 'intelligent life inside our galaxy = much less likely but certainly not impossible'.

Very well spoken sir!
To comment on the bolded part I'm taking a line from the movie Contact. "If we are the only ones in the universe, it be an awfully waste of space." or something to that regards.

Now about the movie, i've only glimpsed some of the trailers and is the Space Jockey kindof the bad guy in this? Is he trying to transport the aliens to earth or something?

[Viscal]

A whole bunch of NEW IMAGES
http://i.imgur.com/lKtfN.jpg
More at http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/533

[Oberon sexton]

The top picture, Space Jockey and it's faithful pet the proto-Xenomorph?

[Blue Sugar]

You do know the film is fantasy marketed in the science fiction genre, right? It's akin to watching Captain America, and stating, "We didn't win the war because of Captain America...cause he's not real." The film is not trying to replace science or mythology; it is an exercise in fantasy on a subject that surfaces in all of our lives, at some point.

Wait, what? That was my whole point with the post, I think you misunderstood it. :)

[CrypticOne]

A whole bunch of NEW IMAGES
http://i.imgur.com/lKtfN.jpg
More at http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/533

Thanks!

Man, this movie is a complete mystery! It needs to hurry up and come out.

[Bim]

Aagh! that eye thingy in the link Viscal posted is really freaky! :shock. Kinda gross, really lol.

I cant wait to see this movie :woot:

[Matt Mortem]

That eyeball gif is freaking me the **** out. Blegh

[Viscal]

High-res image diagram of the Prometheus ship
http://i.imgur.com/t4M75.jpg
http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/536

[TheWiseGuy487]

High-res image diagram of the Prometheus ship
http://i.imgur.com/t4M75.jpg
http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/536

That ship looks like the Serenity from Firefly and the Normandy from Mass Effect had a very beautiful love child and this was the result.

[redhawk23]

Why would it need an intergalactic communications system?

[Moridin]

Great design. Though I read "Medical Bay" as "Michael Bay", did a double take. "here is where we keep Michael Bay":funny:. I can just imagine their secondary mission was to kidnap Bay, stick him in a pod and eject him off into space when they were far enough away from earth.

[Marvolo]

Ridley Scott is blasting the MPAA.


I'm guessing they are trying to ram their aurthority down his throat. More than likely they are giving it a NC-17 or R and the studio and possibly Ridley wants a PG-13 or at the very least don't think it deserves an R.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/04/10/prometheus-rating-ridley-scott_n_1415933.html

[cherokeesam]

Why would it need an intergalactic communications system?


Prometheus isn't necessarily still in our galaxy. The viral stuff mentions Weyland-Yutani inventing FTL drives in the not-too-distant future (think it was the 2030s), so Prometheus is presumably capable of traveling great, great distances.

Also, just asking those who might be better versed in the lore: was it ever established where LV-426 is located? Our galaxy, or somewhere else?

Ridley Scott is blasting the MPAA.


I'm guessing they are trying to ram their aurthority down his throat. More than likely they are giving it a NC-17 or R and the studio and possibly Ridley wants a PG-13 or at the very least don't think it deserves an R.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/04/10/prometheus-rating-ridley-scott_n_1415933.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/04/10/prometheus-rating-ridley-scott_n_1415933.html)

I'd say he's pushing for PG-13. He's already said he's filmed "R" and "PG-13" versions, by his own admission, but it sounds like the MPAA isn't willing to call any of his "tamed down" cuts still worthy of PG-13.

I know Ridley and the studio want PG-13 for bigger audiences, but Ridley himself says it's R-rated material. I wish he'd just accept the R rating and make this the grown-up movie *for* grown-ups, which we all know it is.

[Anita18]

"I don't know; therefore, aliens" :oldrazz:


"Sometimes" it goes over the top...?? I think it *always* goes over the top. The speculation is always fun, but these guys seem totally incapable of using words like "maybe," "could be," and "possibly"....instead, they deal in absolutes. Like it's common knowledge that the aliens were here and did this and did that.

There's plenty of mysteries in the ancient world, but quite a bit of this is just simply modern man completely underestimating ancient man. For instance, whenever someone discovers that an ancient site has very definite astronomical and calendrical qualities to it (Stonehenge, Copan and the like), they automatically jump to the conclusion that the only reason humans could have or want advanced astronomical knowledge is to "communicate with the Star People." Here's a simpler explanation: it was the dawn of agriculture. Farmers need to know when to plant and when to harvest, so they need a calendar, and they need to know when to expect solstices and equinoxes and plan their crops accordingly. Ever look at a Farmer's Almanac....? Not exactly hi-tech stuff, but it's filled with astronomical info that's important to the planting and harvesting season.
Over the weekend, my coworker discovered "Ancient Aliens," and was so excited about it (he laughed so hard he forgot about his chronic debilitating pain), that he literally ran in after I arrived at work to describe how it was....and it was exactly as you've described it here. :hehe:

So I fired up Netflix and checked out the first episode myself and had some good laughs. To be fair, I didn't think they REALLY jumped the shark until the last example, involving the pyramids being hydrogen reactor beaming energies up to the aliens' mother ship hovering above earth. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

We totally underestimate the ability of ancient peoples. Hint: back then, when night fell, the only thing you COULD look at were the stars. :oldrazz: Never underestimate the power of boredom and lots of time! And in the ages of the pyramids, lots of slaves/workers. :oldrazz:

But the show will never fail to be entertaining. "We don't know what this came from! Scientists think it's this...but WHAT IF....IT WAS ALIENS???" :lmao:

Great design. Though I read "Medical Bay" as "Michael Bay", did a double take. "here is where we keep Michael Bay":funny:. I can just imagine their secondary mission was to kidnap Bay, stick him in a pod and eject him off into space when they were far enough away from earth.
:funny: I approve!

[ThePowerCosmic]

I'm thinking that gif is from the scene where Holloway lets some of the water from the chamber ceiling drip down on his face after discovering he can breathe the air and taking off his helmet. Some sort of parasitic bacteria might have been in the liquid that landed in his eye.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2103/prometheuscinemagraph3.gif

[redhawk23]

Prometheus isn't necessarily still in our galaxy. The viral stuff mentions Weyland-Yutani inventing FTL drives in the not-too-distant future (think it was the 2030s), so Prometheus is presumably capable of traveling great, great distances.

Also, just asking those who might be better versed in the lore: was it ever established where LV-426 is located? Our galaxy, or somewhere else?



I'd say he's pushing for PG-13. He's already said he's filmed "R" and "PG-13" versions, by his own admission, but it sounds like the MPAA isn't willing to call any of his "tamed down" cuts still worthy of PG-13.

I know Ridley and the studio want PG-13 for bigger audiences, but Ridley himself says it's R-rated material. I wish he'd just accept the R rating and make this the grown-up movie *for* grown-ups, which we all know it is.

Zeta Reticuli, 39 light years from earth.

I've never seen any indication of Intergalactic travel in these films, that's why I asked. FTL or not, galaxies are crazy far away.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Zeta Reticuli, 39 light years from earth.

I've never seen any indication of Intergalactic travel in these films, that's why I asked. FTL or not, galaxies are crazy far away.

Apparently they were in Hyper-Sleep for 2 years before reaching their destination.

[redhawk23]

I know you've got to do what you've got to do, but Ripley leaving behind a daughter and being a space trucker is kind of nuts.

[Marvolo]

I know you've got to do what you've got to do, but Ripley leaving behind a daughter and being a space trucker is kind of nuts.

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Nothing nuts about that.

[The Morningstar]

Well it's work. Sometimes people have to work away for a period of time, in a different country, different galaxy... :D

[Anita18]

Aagh! that eye thingy in the link Viscal posted is really freaky! :shock. Kinda gross, really lol.

I cant wait to see this movie :woot:
Hate to break it to ya...but such things exist in real life. :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loa_loa_filariasis (with photo!)

Supposedly they aren't painful, but they can be felt when they decide to take a trip across your eyeball or under the bridge of your nose. They get in via insect bite, at any rate, so it isn't like the worm is biting your eyeballs to get in.

I'm thinking that gif is from the scene where Holloway lets some of the water from the chamber ceiling drip down on his face after discovering he can breathe the air and taking off his helmet. Some sort of parasitic bacteria might have been in the liquid that landed in his eye.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2103/prometheuscinemagraph3.gif
Now see, I hate it when movies do that.

Any scientist/explorer worth his/her salt would know that you DO NOT SMELL whatever it is you're testing! :doh:

[Hunter Rider]

http://s11.postimage.org/g45yr9xcz/hr_Prometheus_13.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[Viscal]

Prometheus has a run-time of 119 minutes.
http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/540

Also new image of Vickers
http://i.imgur.com/s9MdN.jpg
Bigger version here http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/541

[TheWiseGuy487]

Prometheus has a run-time of 119 minutes.
http://www.PrometheusForum.net/discussion/540



Well, the original Alien is 117 minutes, and Ridley said that the pace of this film is pretty much how he wanted it to be, so I'm not really worried.

[Kane52630]

2 hours sounds good to me. :up:

[The Morningstar]

Yep.

[Matt Mortem]

http://s11.postimage.org/g45yr9xcz/hr_Prometheus_13.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Goddamn I love the design of that ship. This movie is sprinting to the top of my most anticipated list for this summer.

[Bim]

Hate to break it to ya...but such things exist in real life. :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loa_loa_filariasis (with photo!)

Supposedly they aren't painful, but they can be felt when they decide to take a trip across your eyeball or under the bridge of your nose. They get in via insect bite, at any rate, so it isn't like the worm is biting your eyeballs to get in.
Why would u do that to me? :csad: now i'll be thinking of this all day long!! lol. Thank goodness i'm not a hypochondriac or i'd be paranoid that i have one inside my eye :hehe:

[Anita18]

Why would u do that to me? :csad: now i'll be thinking of this all day long!! lol. Thank goodness i'm not a hypochondriac or i'd be paranoid that i have one inside my eye :hehe:
:hehe:

The cases are mostly in Africa, because of the insects that harbor the parasite. Kind of like a more skeevy version of malaria, or...any number of diseases spread via insect bite, really...

Mother Nature is full of really weird/disturbing things already! :woot:

[chamber-music]

2 hours is good for me. I want some bang for my summer blockbuster buck.

[rashad]

That's a solid theatrical running time.

[Marvolo]

UH OH!!!

ScriptFlags is reporting that European markets will get the R rated version of the movie and the US will get the PG-13 rated version of the movie. They also report the difference in run-time (17 minutes) is related to the rating, meaning American audiences will NOT get the full intense experience as intended.

http://www.scriptflags.com/2012/04/prometheus-multiple-running-times.html?m=1

[Matt Mortem]

UH OH!!!

ScriptFlags is reporting that European markets will get the R rated version of the movie and the US will get the PG-13 rated version of the movie. They also report the difference in run-time (17 minutes) is related to the rating, meaning American audiences will NOT get the full intense experience as intended.

http://www.scriptflags.com/2012/04/prometheus-multiple-running-times.html?m=1

That's.......annoying. How reliable is ScriptFlags?

[Marvolo]

I never used them as a source. In the meantime this something we need to follow. The fanbase most standup and declare the will not pay for an incomplete film which is what this US cut will be.

[Kane52630]

UH OH!!!

ScriptFlags is reporting that European markets will get the R rated version of the movie and the US will get the PG-13 rated version of the movie. They also report the difference in run-time (17 minutes) is related to the rating, meaning American audiences will NOT get the full intense experience as intended.

http://www.scriptflags.com/2012/04/prometheus-multiple-running-times.html?m=1

http://i42.tinypic.com/24ngrix.jpg

[The Morningstar]

Isn't that similar to what Fox did with Taken?

[Marvolo]

Yes, but that only ammounted to a few shotsbeing altered. This is 17 minutes difference. Whatever profit they make with the PG-13 rating will be lost by fans boycotting this BS.

[Matt Mortem]

Yes, but that only ammounted to a few shotsbeing altered. This is 17 minutes difference. Whatever profit they make with the PG-13 rating will be lost by fans boycotting this BS.

I won't boycott it based on the rating or 17 minutes being cut, but it is damned annoying if true.

[Anita18]

Isn't that similar to what Fox did with Taken?
Friggin Fox. :cmad:

[Marvolo]

I won't boycott it based on the rating or 17 minutes being cut, but it is damned annoying if true.

Seriously your going to pay to see a film that has been hacked to aquire a rating when the rest of the market gets the full film? Why not just wait for the uncut bluray in the Fall rather than tell Fox and the MPAA this nonsense is OK.

[Thebumwhowalks]

Don't worry, if us Euros see the full complete actual movie Ridley wanted to make, then we will only discuss the 17 minutes in spoiler boxes. :grin:

[Marvolo]

I expect the European cut will be heavily bootleged now. Scott said the film would get the rating iit needed. A decision to release two cuts with two different rating flies in the face of that statement.