Characters you'd like to see in future Avengers movies?

[Hawkingbird]

I know there is allot of discussion about sequels, but I thought a thread purely dedicated to the characters may be in order. I personally would like to see Hank Pym, Wasp, Ms.Marvel and Luke Cage.

[MarvelKnight]

Black Panther, Hank, Janet and Vision.

[Franklin Richards]

We need at least three women to show up. Jan, Carol, and She-Hulk. Jen can replace the Hulk when he inevitably takes off.


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[Hawkingbird]

We need at least three women to show up. Jan, Carol, and She-Hulk. Jen can replace the Hulk when he inevitably takes off.


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NOT She-Hulk. Can't stand her:o Carol for sure! Jan hell yeah! I like Spider-Woman, but I fear she'd be just another Black Widow (who I do think is amazzing)

[MarvelKnight]

No one with 'Spider-Anything' should be in the Avengers, imho. I would like for them to stick to actual Avengers. I don't want them to go the comics route in terms of making every hero they have the rights too and their mother an avenger. It's watered down, diluted and plain idiotic.

Plus, I don't think it would work to have 15 heroes on screen to go with the supporting cast marvel keeps putting in its movies.

Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Bucky Cap if he shows up in present day and get rid of Rogers for a while. I wouldn't mind seeing Cap retire from Avengers in MCU at some point and head up SHIELD if they keep the MCU machine rolling after Avengers 3

If they get past 3 avengers movies sure throw in some other less known avengers(by less known i mean heroes that aren't thought of as only avengers). I don't know, I'm just a bit old school in that way I guess.

[MarvelKnight]

I'd rather see them randomly throw in the unkown 'witch with european accent' then she-hulk

[Hawkingbird]

I'd rather see them randomly throw in the unkown 'witch with european accent' then she-hulk

Fox would get pretty tizzed off by that.

[BigThor]

No one with 'Spider-Anything' should be in the Avengers, imho. I would like for them to stick to actual Avengers. I don't want them to go the comics route in terms of making every hero they have the rights too and their mother an avenger. It's watered down, diluted and plain idiotic.

I'm with you on this one MK, I'm not a big fan of almost every superhero in the MU being Avengers and I definately don't want to see it happen in live action either.

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[MarvelKnight]

Fox would get pretty tizzed off by that.

Money solves everything. Throw them a million bucks and tell them to shut-it. Fox will never use Wanda anyway. imo

[Franklin Richards]

If they ever make the Magneto movie, they'd have to have the rights to her character. But who knows?


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[MarvelKnight]

If they ever make the Magneto movie, they'd have to have the rights to her character. But who knows?


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Yeah, as long as they make X-men movies of any kind all the characters under the x-men deal are off limits. I was just being a bit sarcastic is all.

If they keep BW as an actual Avenger for another movie, introduce Jan, and then introduce another female (mockingbird was my first thought) to fill the role of a SHIELD agent on the team (a la BW in this one) that should suffice.

If they are going super cosmic by A3 that should give them plenty of time to introduce ms. marvel down the road.

[BigThor]

I'd like to see Hank Pym, Black Panther, Ms. Marvel, and Vision show up in future Avengers film.

[metaphysician]

I've actually heard, somewhere, that Marvel made a deal with Fox, and traded around some rights, including Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch. I have no clue if its true, though.

[Hawkingbird]

I would personally love all the universes to come together. Scrap Ghost Rider and Fanstastic Four. And merge Spider Man and X-Men into Avengers. Though the chances of that happening are about 1000000000000000000000000000/1.

[BigThor]

I would personally love all the universes to come together. Scrap Ghost Rider and Fanstastic Four. And merge Spider Man and X-Men into Avengers. Though the chances of that happening are about 1000000000000000000000000000/1.

Scrap the Ghost Rider and Fantastic Four movies, yeah but keep the characters themselves because they're awesome.

[Hawkingbird]

Scrap the Ghost Rider and Fantastic Four movies, yeah but keep the characters themselves because they're awesome.

Oh hell yeah! I just can't describe my hate for Nick Cage:o

[newwaveboy87]

Giant-Man, Wasp, Warbird/Ms. Marvel/Binary/whatever she's calling herself nowadays (:-P), Vision, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, Wonder Man, Justice, Firestar, Black Panther.

...Take a wild guess which Avengers comic run I grew up with...

[drastic_quench]

Blade.

Wait, hear me out. I know it's a left field choice, but Marvel bought back the rights. The first one WAS good. And the dynamic he'd have with the team would be very unique and excellent. Just picture Sam Jackson's Fury recruiting Snipes' Blade.

It would be cool to have both a sword guy and vampire (essentially) on the team. He could be like the team's Wolverine or Ares. Plus, they need non-Caucasian heroes. Black Panther sure, but why stop there.

[BigThor]

^ Personally I think we should get Black Panther first, he actually has an extensive history as an Avenger and brings so much more to the table.

I'd like to see Blade in a future Midnight Sons film with Ghost Rider and Doctor Strange.

[The Morningstar]

Oh hell yeah! I just can't describe my hate for Nick Cage:o

Nic Cage is GOD!

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy128/EmileeDGAF/tumblr_lo9x45ow0d1qj164eo1_r1_500.gif

[BigThor]

^ True story

[Young Superman]

Dr. Henry "Hank" Pym, The Wasp (Janet van Dyne), and Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) are the top three Characters I'd like to see in future Avengers movies.

[Artistsean]

I want to see Hank Pym and Janet, Hank has a break down, and then Hank creates Ultron who becomes a living embodiment of Hank's resentments, hatred, and inadequate feelings towards his fellow Avengers, his wife, and himself. Ultron creates Vision, Vision joins the Avengers and redeems Hank in a way, and also Wonder Man because Wonder Man's brain pattersn are used for Vision's mind.
I'd also love to see She-Hulk, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Hercules, Ms. Marvel, Black Panther, and others I will name later.

[Hawkingbird]

I think Hank, Janet, Vision and Ms.Marvel are a popular choice here :o

[newwaveboy87]

Of course they are. Hank and Janet are founders, Vision is a fan-favorite, and Ms. Marvel is a fan-favorite AND a powerhouse replacement for the Hulk when he inevitably leaves the team.

Scarlet Witch and Black Panther are also pretty high up there.

[MarvelKnight]

I want to see Hank Pym and Janet, Hank has a break down, and then Hank creates Ultron who becomes a living embodiment of Hank's resentments, hatred, and inadequate feelings towards his fellow Avengers, his wife, and himself.

That is a pretty sweet idea as far as utilizing Ultron and Hank. Plus it would definitely fit with Whedon's suggestion of making it more personal.

[newwaveboy87]

God, I would love to see Ultron. :hrt:

[Hawkingbird]

Which would lead to VISION!

[Thebumwhowalks]

I would like to see the Absorbing Man and Titania, and just like in the scenario in Secret Wars, I'd like to see Titania leading the charge against She-Hulk, and putting her into a coma.

[newwaveboy87]

Save She-Hulk for the Hulk solo films :o

[Young Superman]

Save She-Hulk for the Hulk solo films :o

Agreed

[Thebumwhowalks]

Save She-Hulk for the Hulk solo films :o

Nah, I wanna see her getting pummelled by a bunch of super-villans, just like she did in Secret Wars, she can dish it out, so she can take it.

how do you work these amazing smilies that everyone seems to think gives some kind of magical power of validity to their points.... :o there we go, oh hold on, it's nothing more than a wee red face.

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[Duke]

I definitely want to see The Vision, Ant Man, Scarlet Witch, Quick Silver, & Ultron.

[newwaveboy87]

Nah, I wanna see her getting pummelled by a bunch of super-villans, just like she did in Secret Wars, she can dish it out, so she can take it.

how do you work these amazing smilies that everyone seems to think gives some kind of magical power of validity to their points.... :o there we go, oh hold on, it's nothing more than a wee red face.

:oldrazz:
She-Hulk is one of the lesser characters in my opinion. Perhaps I'm just not a big fan, but I think there's more interesting, unique and Avengers-specific characters to include in the film franchise before we get to She-Hulk.

Let her be the comedic relief in a Hulk sequel. Not the Avengers.

[CaptainStacy]

Hank & Jan Pym
Quicksilver
Scarlet Witch
Hercules
Black Panther
Vision
Wonder Man

[MarvelKnight]

Avengers-specific characters to include.

I agree. Characters with strict Avenger-Ties first...I'd rather see War Machine before She-Hulk, and he is extremely low on my list..

I'm hopin to see pym(leading to ultron) & vision first out of anybody else that I'd like in the avengers.

[Artistsean]

I agree. Characters with strict Avenger-Ties first...I'd rather see War Machine before She-Hulk, and he is extremely low on my list..

I'm hopin to see vision first out of anybody else that I'd like in the avengers.
I would love to see the Vision, but before you do you need to have Ant Man become established on the Avengers. Then he creates Ultron, during his breaking point, and the Ultron creates the Vision. Him creating Ultron and Ultron creating the Vision could be done in one movie, but you have to establish Pym in at least 1 movie 1st.

[MarvelKnight]

I would love to see the Vision, but before you do you need to have Ant Man become established on the Avengers. Then he creates Ultron, during his breaking point, and the Ultron creates the Vision. Him creating Ultron and Ultron creating the Vision could be done in one movie, but you have to establish Pym in at least 1 movie 1st.

Yep yep, stupid me, don't know what came over me, I have rectified the situation :word:

[Young Superman]

So I am the only one who wants to see Carol Danvers in The Avengers sequel?

[MarvelKnight]

^ nope I would like her to be involved in the Avengers at some point.

[newwaveboy87]

So I am the only one who wants to see Carol Danvers in The Avengers sequel?

God no. Look throughout this thread, sure Hank and Janet are getting a bulk of the conversation, but a lot of people (including myself) list Carol as one of our top choices for inclusion.

I know that my listing of potential characters for the sequels wasn't ranked. It was just how they sprang to my mind.

[BigThor]

She-Hulk is one of the lesser characters in my opinion. Perhaps I'm just not a big fan, but I think there's more interesting, unique and Avengers-specific characters to include in the film franchise before we get to She-Hulk.

Let her be the comedic relief in a Hulk sequel. Not the Avengers.

I don't want to see She Hulk in an Avengers film, I'm much rather have Ms. Marvel as the female powerhouse of the team.

These are the 7 characters I want to see the most...

1. Hank
2. Janet
3. Ultron
4. Black Panther
5. Ms. Marvel
6. Vision
7. Kang

[metaphysician]

I'd much rather see Carol than Hank. . .

[BigThor]

^ Not me, for the simple fact that Hanks bring alot more to the table in "almost" every way imaginable.

[cherokeesam]

In no particular order, the Avengers and Avenger villains I absolutely *must* see by no later than Avengers 3:

Black Panther
Wasp
Giant-Man (I've never been sold on Hank as Ant-Man anyway; it lessens Jan's role when you have two micro-heroes. I'd rather see Wasp as the micro and Hank as the macro)
Ms. --er, Captain Marvel (or whatever Carol goes by these days)
the original Mar-Vell and/or Genis-Vell
She-Hulk
Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
Vision
Ultron
Kang the Conqueror
Thanos
Tigra
Taskmaster
MODOK and AIM
a good incarnation of the MOE (Zemo, Enchantress, Skurge, Klaw, Whirlwind, Goliath, Songbird, Creed & Titania)

[newwaveboy87]

I don't want to see She Hulk in an Avengers film, I'm much rather have Ms. Marvel as the female powerhouse of the team.

These are the 7 characters I want to see the most...

1. Hank
2. Janet
3. Ultron
4. Black Panther
5. Ms. Marvel
6. Vision
7. Kang
Other than Kang we're in perfect agreement about the future Avengers films and what characters to bring in :up:

[BigThor]

Other than Kang we're in perfect agreement about the future Avengers films and what characters to bring in :up:

Yeah I love Kang, he's my 2nd favorite Avengers villain behind Ultron since I don't really consider Thanos as an Avengers villain per say (universal threat).

I know we're not going to see him in this trilogy though, he would be too similar to Loki in terms of the "invasion" angle and we're pretty much guaranteed to have Thanos as a film in A2 orA3.

The idea of seeing Kang being in an Avengers film is still cool nonetheless, why don't you want to see him again?

[newwaveboy87]

He just doesn't "do it" for me. I don't know why, but he's never really been of much interest to me as a villain.

I think it's for the same reason(s) I never want to see Apocalypse in an X-Men movie. I just plain don't like them and think that they're "Eh."

I would rather see Kang over Apocalypse any day though.

[BigThor]

He just doesn't "do it" for me. I don't know why, but he's never really been of much interest to me as a villain.

I think it's for the same reason(s) I never want to see Apocalypse in an X-Men movie. I just plain don't like them and think that they're "Eh."

I would rather see Kang over Apocalypse any day though.

Oh ok just asking, I always liked him as a villain in the comics but his appearance in EMH is what really got me interested in seeing him on film.

[newwaveboy87]

It's cool. Different strokes for different folks. :up:

[BigThor]

It's cool. Different strokes for different folks. :up:

Sure is, I think we can both agree on wanting to see Ultron as the villain in Avengers 2 though. :cool:

[MarvelKnight]

Newwaveboy...What don't you like about Apocalypse if you don't mind me asking..?

For me, personally, I would rather see him in an X-men film before I ever see She-Hulk in ANY kind of MCU film.. But. That is just me.

[BigThor]

Newwaveboy...What don't you like about Apocalypse if you don't mind me asking..?

For me, personally, I would rather see him in an X-men film before I ever see She-Hulk in ANY kind of MCU film.. But. That is just me.

Same here :up:

[Artistsean]

Not me, I like Apocalypse but I would rather see She-Hulk in an Avengers movie. Not sure why it has to be Apocalypse of She-Hulk though, how'd that happen? To me Apocalypse, with his alien robot body, and his unlimited power is a little too much for me. Like I said though, I like him, he just isn't my favorite. Maybe if his robot body looked more like armor, and it was easy to see that he had a flesh and blood body. Maybe its that he just seems to invulnerable or something.I don't want to see She Hulk in an Avengers film, I'm much rather have Ms. Marvel as the female powerhouse of the team.

I don't think it needs to be either or, just which would be shown first. I think Ms. Marvel could be introduced in a sequel and then eventually bring in She-Hulk as well... probably after Hulk leaves. She could join the team even after Ms. Marvel has left, like Carol shows up in Avengers 3, and She-Hulk could show up in Avengers 4 or even Avengers 6.
There are so many great Avengers characters that they could run through a great number of them and still have some left over after Avengers 8.

Like I said before though, the reason I would love to see Hank Pym and Wasp is because he is a odd hero. At first he seems like a generic good guy, but then its shown that he isn't so stable, and then as we get to know him more he is very resentful of his teammates and maybe even has some serious mental illness. Plus he leads the to great Ultron story, scientist creates robot, robot attacks and creates another robot, the new robot turns on his robot creator to join the human scientist.
That movie could focus on Pym, with the Avengers playing important roles... but I think Pym should deliver the final blow that destroys Ultron.

I'd also love to see Wonder Man at some point and could be the team's Hulk like power house, Valkyrie would be great because she is a strong female character with ties to Thor, Vison as I have mentioned before, Hercules at some point would be fun I think (another mythical demi god though...), Luke Cage and Iron Fist would be fun too...

[MarvelKnight]

Same here :up:

X-men have a lot of great villians but to me Apocalypse is the penultimate, almost even moreso than Magneto.

But (though I love the comics) that may be the part of me that loves the 90s cartoon of x-men. I am all for being enlightened :)

[BigThor]

X-men have a lot of great villians but to me Apocalypse is the penultimate, almost even moreso than Magneto.

But (though I love the comics) that may be the part of me that loves the 90s cartoon of x-men. I am all for being enlightened :)

Seeing Apocalypse in an X-Men film will be like seeing Thanos is an Avengers film....MIND BLOWING! :wow:

[newwaveboy87]

Sure is, I think we can both agree on wanting to see Ultron as the villain in Avengers 2 though. :cool:
Or at the very least alluded to.
I could cream myself if Ultron was the baddie for Avengers 2. And if they added in Hank, Janet, and either Scarlet Witch or Ms. Marvel. Preferably Scarlet Witch so we could get her awkward relationship with Vision in there somehow... :up:
Newwaveboy...What don't you like about Apocalypse if you don't mind me asking..?

For me, personally, I would rather see him in an X-men film before I ever see She-Hulk in ANY kind of MCU film.. But. That is just me.
I find him to be both annoying and highly incompetent. And EVERY video game and cartoon uses him constantly.

His grand pronouncements and ineffectual actions make him a laughable blowhard. I find nothing dangerous or interesting about him. Maybe if a movie used him like X-Men Evolution did, which was the only time he was intimidating and interesting to me, would it strike my fancy.

"I am as far beyond mutants as they are beyond you!"
*****, you're how many hundreds, if not thousands, of years old and if you're so powerful you could have taken over the world at any point in time, but you're lazy and fat and constantly beaten by a group you consider vermin and insects.

:yawn:

[newwaveboy87]

Seeing Apocalypse in an X-Men film will be like seeing Thanos is an Avengers film....MIND BLOWING! :wow:

Thanos would be sweet, especially if they brought in Death :up:

[BigThor]

Thanos would be sweet, especially if they brought in Death :up:

Agreed :up:

[newwaveboy87]

I mean, they would totally have to do Death like the Silver Surfer cartoon... But I could live with that.

[Hawkingbird]

Seeing Apocalypse in an X-Men film will be like seeing Thanos is an Avengers film....MIND BLOWING! :wow:

You would HAVE to have the right characters though.

[BigThor]

You would HAVE to have the right characters though.

Right characters?

[thalidomide]

Vision

[BigThor]

^ Yes :up:

[thalidomide]

Since Vision doesn't really have a facial expression maybe Keannu Reeves can portray him :P

[Darth Wheatly]

Defiantly Wasp and Ant/giant man

[newwaveboy87]

Since Vision doesn't really have a facial expression maybe Keannu Reeves can portray him :P

Hilarious :up:

[BigThor]

Defiantly Wasp and Ant/giant man

Yep :up:

Giant Man, Wasp, Black Panther, and Vision are really the heroes I want to see join the team.

[Hawkingbird]

I think Apocalypse is brilliant with the right writer, but with a bad one he's just repetitive and cliche.
I really, really, REALLY do not want to see She Hulk :o Ms. Marvel is much more likeable and powerful.

[BigThor]

I think Apocalypse is brilliant with the right writer, but with a bad one he's just repetitive and cliche.
I really, really, REALLY do not want to see She Hulk :o Ms. Marvel is much more likeable and powerful.

She is alot more likeable and bit more unique, but they're both pretty powerful.

[Hawkingbird]

Fair enough. There's just something about She Hulk that bores me. It might just be that she doesn't have very good writers...

[The Morningstar]

How is Ms Marvel more likable than Shulkie? Ms Marvel is a stiff and borderline Maria Hill esque ***** who only became popular when Bendis started writing her, for some reason. Shulkie is much more charismatic and friendly.

She Hulk had Dan Slott writing her. That series is better than anything Ms Marvel has ever been involved with. It's up there with Joe Kelly's Deadpool as one of the funniest comics Marvel has ever made.

[BigThor]

How is Ms Marvel more likable than Shulkie? Ms Marvel is a stiff and borderline Maria Hill esque ***** who only became popular when Bendis started writing her, for some reason. Shulkie is much more charismatic and friendly.

She Hulk had Dan Slott writing her. That series is better than anything Ms Marvel has ever been involved with. It's up there with Joe Kelly's Deadpool as one of the funniest comics Marvel has ever made.

Well more "likeable" wasn't the best word to use, but honestly I think she would bring more to the team than She Hulk.

[The Morningstar]

Well, i can agree with that.

[BigThor]

Well, i can agree with that.

Yep, just like I can agree that She Hulk does have a more likeable personality. :up:

[CaptainStacy]

So in his latest interview on the front page, Kevin Fiege says Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are a possibility, provided they use them before Fox does for an X-Men movie...

I certainly hope Marvel gets them in the next Avengers film. Although apparently an X-Men: First Class sequel is already underway. If Fox doesnt use Wanda and Pietro, marvel really needs to jump on it and include them in the Next Avengers movie.

I'd love the sequel to introduce them AND the Pyms, out on a mission alongside Cap and Hawkeye, although i'm not sure how all those characters would fit alongside Thor, Iron Man, and Hulk. That's a big line up, and i really don't see Marvel/Disney leaving Downey and Hemsworth out...

But anyway; wouldnt it be a good kick in the nuts to DC if Marvel gets THEIR speedster up on the big screen before DC gets The Flash out there? :oldrazz: :woot:


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa248/GarryMcK/Avengers/AV28Front.jpg

[BigThor]

^ Honestly, Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch aren't really that high my list I'd rather see the Pyms, Black Panther, Vision, and Ms. Marvel before them.

Although they are alot higher than most of the other Avengers that are absent in The Avenges movie.

[cherokeesam]

So in his latest interview on the front page, Kevin Fiege says Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are a possibility, provided they use them before Fox does for an X-Men movie...

I certainly hope Marvel gets them in the next Avengers film. Although apparently an X-Men: First Class sequel is already underway. If Fox doesnt use Wanda and Pietro, marvel really needs to jump on it and include them in the Next Avengers movie.



Feige never said anything about it being an either-or, first-come first-served basis for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. He simply said that both Marvel and Fox can use the characters. It's theoretically possible to see two sets of Wanda/Pietro in XMFC and Avengers, played by different actors, having no crossover continuity into either franchise.

[CaptainStacy]

Feige never said anything about it being an either-or, first-come first-served basis for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. He simply said that both Marvel and Fox can use the characters. It's theoretically possible to see two sets of Wanda/Pietro in XMFC and Avengers, played by different actors, having no crossover continuity into either franchise.

Yes, listening more closer, it appears you're correct.

Cool. Hopefully we'll see them in Avengers first.

[Hawkingbird]

Surely they'd have to explain the whole mutant situation?

[Thebumwhowalks]

But anyway; wouldnt it be a good kick in the nuts to DC if Marvel gets THEIR speedster up on the big screen before DC gets The Flash out there? :oldrazz: :woot:



I seriously doubt that the SW and QS will be in the next Avengers film, or even the third one, he is just talking theoretically.
It will be difficult to explain where they got their powers from without refering to mutants, which they will not be allowed to do I assume. Esp considering the big coincidence that both brother and sister have gained superpowers.

[cherokeesam]

Surely they'd have to explain the whole mutant situation?

I seriously doubt that the SW and QS will be in the next Avengers film, or even the third one, he is just talking theoretically.
It will be difficult to explain where they got their powers from without refering to mutants, which they will not be allowed to do I assume. Esp considering the big coincidence that both brother and sister have gained superpowers.

I seriously doubt there's any plans for SW & QS in Avengers 2, also, but #3 might be a possibility. Neither Marvel nor Fox have shown any inclination to fast-track those characters for either Avengers or X-Men, but a coupla three years from now, who knows?

As for the whole mutant thing, there's nothing to say that Marvel Studios (or Sony, for that matter) isn't allowed to have mutation as a source of superpowers. Technically, Hulk and Spider-Man are mutants; and Typhoid Mary, who appeared in Elektra, is actually *classified* as an X-gene mutant in the comics. There's probably a lot of leeway there; but even if there isn't, it would be easy enough for Wanda and Pietro's powers to derive from a different source in Avengers. Genetic manipulation, alien breeding, true magic and witchcraft, nuclear accidents, any of the usual suspects.

[ripse]

I want to see, in next sequel is black panther, ms marvel, spider-woman, & iron fist...

[Chewy]

Black Panther or Ms Marvel

Other than that I want this same cast coming back for the sequel

[CaptainStacy]

I seriously doubt there's any plans for SW & QS in Avengers 2, also, but #3 might be a possibility. Neither Marvel nor Fox have shown any inclination to fast-track those characters for either Avengers or X-Men, but a coupla three years from now, who knows?

As for the whole mutant thing, there's nothing to say that Marvel Studios (or Sony, for that matter) isn't allowed to have mutation as a source of superpowers. Technically, Hulk and Spider-Man are mutants; and Typhoid Mary, who appeared in Elektra, is actually *classified* as an X-gene mutant in the comics. There's probably a lot of leeway there; but even if there isn't, it would be easy enough for Wanda and Pietro's powers to derive from a different source in Avengers. Genetic manipulation, alien breeding, true magic and witchcraft, nuclear accidents, any of the usual suspects.

Yeah, and they could even have something with The High Evolutionary for Pietro and Wanda's origins...there was a great big crossover years ago with him in the comics.

[BigThor]

Black Panther or Ms Marvel

Other than that I want this same cast coming back for the sequel

Yes to both of them, ESPECIALLY Black Panther I've always been a fan but recently I've become alot more interested in him.

[psylockolussus]

For Avengers 2
Doctor Strange
Ms. Marvel

For Avengers 3
Antman
Black Panther

[BigThor]

For Avengers 2
Doctor Strange
Ms. Marvel

For Avengers 3
Antman
Black Panther

I think Doctor Strange would work best as a solo hero, however I do agree with Black Panther, Antman, and Ms. Marvel.

[Thebumwhowalks]

As for the whole mutant thing, there's nothing to say that Marvel Studios (or Sony, for that matter) isn't allowed to have mutation as a source of superpowers. Technically, Hulk and Spider-Man are mutants; and Typhoid Mary, who appeared in Elektra, is actually *classified* as an X-gene mutant in the comics. There's probably a lot of leeway there; but even if there isn't, it would be easy enough for Wanda and Pietro's powers to derive from a different source in Avengers. Genetic manipulation, alien breeding, true magic and witchcraft, nuclear accidents, any of the usual suspects.

How Hulk and Spider-man got their powers are explained.
witchcraft? works for Wanda, not for Pietro...
alien breeding? no, I don't even know where they would begin with such a convoluted origin.
nuclear accidents? too random, esp for a bro and sis who have such different powers.

Genetic manipulation is the only one I could fathom working. Which takes us to Captain Stacey's point...

btw, I'm pretty sure that only Fox is allowed to use the term 'mutant' in regards to it's Marvel characters.

Yeah, and they could even have something with The High Evolutionary for Pietro and Wanda's origins...there was a great big crossover years ago with him in the comics.

I think they would have to simplify that origin, unless they were gonna do a film revolving around the High Evolutionary as the bad guy or whatever.
In the books, the High Evolutionary was originally a scientist who worked alongside Spider-Woman's father, so they could even go with an origin along the same lines as the Ang Lee Hulk.
edit: They could make him their father, and just give them that kind of origin, I doubt Marvel will get to do Spider-Woman anyway, due to the similarity to Spider-man. I'm not sure how that would work out legally, i can't imagine sony being very happy if Marvel brought out a Spider-Woman solo film.

[CaptainStacy]

I think they would have to simplify that origin, unless they were gonna do a film revolving around the High Evolutionary as the bad guy or whatever.


Well certainly. Pietro and Wanda do, in fact, have ties to him due to Wundagore Mountain... In the comics, he has early ties to Thor and The Hulk. What's cool about him is he has his "purifier troops", as well as "Gatherers" and "Eliminators" which are basically soldiers that would make great cannon fodder for the Avengers...his "genetic bomb" which he planned to alter ALL life on earth with would make a great plot device for the team to thwart..the genetically altered Man-Beast, who was powerful enough to engage Thor in one on one battle, and of course he himself wears a suit of armor which is arguably more powerful than Tony Stark's...

We already kind of know the villain in the NEXT Avengers movie, and personally i'd like to see Ultron in the following movie, , but somewhere down the line The High Evolutionary would make a GREAT villain for the team, and an EXCELLENT explanation to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's powers.

[Artistsean]

Here are the 3 superheroes Stan Lee wants on the big screen next

http://blastr.com/2012/04/here-are-the-3-superheroe.php
Speaking to I Am Rogue (http://blastr.com/2012/04/%3Ca%20href=), the godfather of comics shared his thoughts on which of his many characters he'd love to see added to the Earth's Mightiest Heroes' team in the inevitable sequel:
"Oh I'd be happy if they add the Black Panther (http://blastr.com/2011/01/9-men-who-could-be-the-bl.php) and maybe Dr. Strange (http://blastr.com/2012/01/1963-stan-lee-letter-to-f.php). Sooner or later they will do movies of both of them."
So which character does Lee think should get his own movie next?
"Those two and probably Ant-Man (http://blastr.com/2011/01/is-marvels-ant-man-movie.php), which I think they are working on. Maybe I'll play a little role in that."

[Nathan]

I definitely want to see Black Panther added to the roster. And I'd also like to see Ms. Marvel and/or Scarlett Witch. The team needs more females.

[MarvelKnight]

I find him to be both annoying and highly incompetent. And EVERY video game and cartoon uses him constantly.

I agree he has been used a lot, but as far as being incompetent we can agree to disagree :). I, too, think Apocalypse is the Thanos of the X-men as BT said. Done the right way, it would truly be spectacular.. Here's hopin'.

Next to Apocalypse, Sinister as well as the Savage Land and all those characters I would love to see on screen.

[newwaveboy87]

Sinister - yes. I think he would have been a perfect choice for First Class, more so than the "Hellfire Club" INO group that they gave us. Here's hoping for a sequel.

I think things like the High Evolutionary and the Savage Land are too "comic-booky" too ever properly translate to the screen and keep a straight face.

[Mjölnir]

While I like several other members I think they should be very careful with adding new members. The Avengers worked very well to flesh out everyone but there was still differences in how much they were shown. Adding more members, without removing others, will probably make it too crowded for a film. I'd rather leave out one of the heroes I like instead of having a hero I like be included but not shine enough.

[BigThor]

Sinister - yes. I think he would have been a perfect choice for First Class, more so than the "Hellfire Club" INO group that they gave us. Here's hoping for a sequel.

I think things like the High Evolutionary and the Savage Land are too "comic-booky" too ever properly translate to the screen and keep a straight face.

Hell yes, Sinister >>> the "Hellfire" club and he's also immortal which means he can return in more films if he needs to (without aging).

[DrCosmic]

Black Panther. Really. It's just that simple.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af192/acepanther/Black20Panther20352.jpg

[Incredible Hans]

Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Hercules, Ant-Man, Wasp.

[ЯɘvlveR]

NOVA. even though he might look like an iron man knock off on screen.

[TotalN00b]

A lot of talk about Carol Danvers on here but how about introducing her through an Iron Man movie instead? I mean they have a deep history with each other...
As for calls for She-Hulk I'm not really sure how that'd fit, because they have said there are no immediate plans for a Hulk sequel and wouldn't that be the natural route for her?

I agree with the need for Hank and Janet, and yeah Ultron would be awesome!!!!! They need to sort out a movie for them asap in that case then because I'd actually be kinda pissed if they just threw them into an Avengers sequel like they're just fringe characters. If they could sort them out, add in Pietro, Wanda and Vision and I'd be going crrrrrrrazzzzzy :woot:

Hawkeye always had a thing for Wanda and that'd naturally be easy to give him more screen time too as he was underused in the first Avengers. Then Wanda for Vision... I'd have no beef with given Black Widow a background role either tbh... Thor could be off racing Thanos through the other realms (in his movies) making the challenge of Ultron even harder

Even if they went toe to toe with Ultron and then discovered the Vision at the end (or after the credits xD) that'd be great

[BigThor]

Black Panther. Really. It's just that simple.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af192/acepanther/Black20Panther20352.jpg

I give this suggestion two thumbs wayyyyy up!!! :up: :up:

[DOOZlovesBOOZ]

Hank, Janet, BP are a necessity. Would love to see Vision and Ms. Marvel also.

[Hawkingbird]

The only problem with Hank is that although he is an amazing comic character, he may not work as a film character. I expect Black Panther will turn up in future Avengers films. Maybe Ms Marvel given the villen set to appear in A2?

[BigThor]

Hank, Janet, BP are a necessity. Would love to see Vision and Ms. Marvel also.

Agreed on all counts :woot:

[DOOZlovesBOOZ]

The only problem with Hank is that although he is an amazing comic character, he may not work as a film character. I expect Black Panther will turn up in future Avengers films. Maybe Ms Marvel given the villen set to appear in A2?

Yeah i understand the concerns, but im sure Marvel Studios can find a way to make him not look and act cheesy. He is a necessity in that he offers janet, allows for a very emotional story, and gives a route to one of the greatest Avenger villains ever, Ultron! If they do include hank, imo he needs to be giant-man with at most one shot of ant-man, so wasp's shrinkage isn't pointless.

Agreed on all counts :woot:

Great minds think alike.

[BigThor]

Great minds think alike.

Yep :up:

I agree with including Ms. Marvel and Vision too I just highlighted the bit about the Pyms and BP because imo they're "must haves".

[Silvermoth]

Black Panther and Wanda (possibly also Pietro) would be awesome. It would be great to expand the roster outside of America a little bit more.

[DOOZlovesBOOZ]

Black Panther and Wanda (possibly also Pietro) would be awesome. It would be great to expand the roster outside of America a little bit more.

I like them too, i just don't see it happening soon because they never get mentioned when feige answers questions about phase 2 movies that include new characters. maybe phase 3 tho?

[Hawkingbird]

Well no Pym no Ultron. No Ultron no Vision.

[Silvermoth]

I like them too, i just don't see it happening soon because they never get mentioned when feige answers questions about phase 2 movies that include new characters. maybe phase 3 tho?

He mentioned them the other day. They probably have the same potential as any character I reckon

Well no Pym no Ultron. No Ultron no Vision.

Not neccessarily. In the movieverse, maybe it was Tony who created Ultron who eventually led to the Vision. If they wanted to make it work, they could.

[FVD]

Hank and Jan along with T'Challa are a MUST!!! I think Antman/Giantman and Wasp should be introduced in their movie next and hopefully Black Panther will get a movie of their own as well before the next Avengers film.

As far as Villains go, while it's steering towards Thanos for the sequel, Hank's creation of Ultron setting up a 3rd film oughta be the way to go with the eventual creation of Vision by Ultron. If Hank doesn't appear in Film 2 then I suppose they'll go with Kang for Film 3. I'm sure Whedon wouldn't dare go ahead with Ultron without Pym's involvement.

As for Pietro and Wanda, I'd love to see them too but I can't see them appearing I'm afraid. Wouldn't mind Ms Marvel though.

[henzINNIT]

Hank Pym played by Nathan Fillion. The internet has spoken.

[DOOZlovesBOOZ]

He mentioned them the other day. They probably have the same potential as any character I reckon

Sry i didn't make myself clear, but yes he did mention them. However i was talking about movies that he said might be coming in phase 2 like Dr. strange, antman, gotg etc. and in that since those two characters are not as far along, and a bit of a long shot.

[DarthBatman]

I would really love to see what they can do with Vision, I think if he was done right he could really be a front runner with Iron Man and Captain America.

[Beikoku Taichou]

Remember that not every new character needs their own movie to be in an Avengers movie.

That said, I want Black Panther, Luke Cage and/or She Hulk.

[DOOZlovesBOOZ]

Remember that not every new character needs their own movie to be in an Avengers movie.

That said, I want Black Panther, Luke Cage and/or She Hulk.

Agreed.

[Hawkingbird]

I would really love to see what they can do with Vision, I think if he was done right he could really be a front runner with Iron Man and Captain America.

I'd love to see him, but to do that there would be demand for Scarlett Witch, Wonder Man, Hank Pym, Ultron, Wasp ect.

[DigificWriter]

Here is my 'ideal' team for The Avengers 2 based on what happens in the film and based on Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor having their own solo movies and therefore having no real 'storyline obligations' for inclusion in the franchise going forward:
Bruce Banner/The Hulk
Natasha Romanov/Black Widow
Clint Barton/Hawkeye
Vision *
Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier (replacing Steve Rogers/Captain America)
James Rhodes/War Machine (replacing Tony Star/Iron Man)
Gamora **
Ms. Marvel

* With a personality based on Agent Phil Coulson's consciousness
** Brought in because of her connections to Thanos, and to replace Thor on the team

[DrCosmic]

Remember that not every new character needs their own movie to be in an Avengers movie.

That said, I want Black Panther, Luke Cage and/or She Hulk.

Not necessarily. Black Widow and Hawkeye didn't have this. I agree that anyone with superpowers needs their own movie to explain (and get people to dig) their powers and stuff.


Vision *
* With a personality based on Agent Phil Coulson's consciousness

That's a great cast for an Avengers 4 when people actually need to be replaced, but we still have Cap/IM/Thor through Avengers 3. I did want to commend you on your idea for Vision. Absolute genius.

[DigificWriter]

After I posted my thoughts, I realized that Thanos is just as likely to be used in Thor 2 given the way that The Avengers ends as he is in Avengers 2, and if he were involved in Thor 2, it would lead organically into Thor returning for Avengers 2.

I don't necessarily think they should write the 'Big Three' out of Avengers 2, but thought I'd operate off of the potential for them to be absent that was written into the end of The Avengers and try to think about characters who could organically come in to fill their respective roles if Marvel did decide to not bring them back.

Even with an Avengers 2 cast lineup that includes IM, Cap, and Thor, though, my suggestion for Vision still stands, because it's an organic and suitable follow-up to what happens in The Avengers.

[ericadawn16]

I know Jessica Chastain is just rumored for Iron man 3 but she would be awesome for either Carol or Wanda

Coulson?

I could accept flashback or footage like they do with Howard Stark but the Vision thing would be awesome

[MaryJaneWatson]

Agent. Phil. Coulson.

[Hawkingbird]

Agent. Phil. Coulson.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3ezeobwcp1qze3co.gif

[MessiahDecoy123]

Ms Marvel

It would be cool to see a woman throw some cars for a change.

Plus Black Panther, Quicksilver and Ant Man.

[vindrow]

Ms. Marvel, Wasp, and Vision.

[Hawkingbird]

You can't have Wasp without Pym and you can't have Pym without Wasp.

[def28]

Black Panther and Ms Marvel.

Since there is a chance of introducing cosmic characters in the future, Id really like to see Nova at some point.

[daderade]

I think for Avengers 2 they may use some of the characters from AKA Jessica Jones, as it is cannon. Luke Cage, JJ, and Iron Fist...i see Black Panther in there as well. Ms Marvel would be awesome(fav female character) but i dont know how they would explain her origin without getting into a huge Kree story.

[Boom]

Black Panther
Ant-Man
The Wasp
Vision

[Hawkingbird]

I have a feeling Black Panther may turn up in IM3.

[cherokeesam]

I have a feeling Black Panther may turn up in IM3.


It'd be cool, but not likely. The action in IM3 seems to be centered on (so far) China, Central Asia and California (with North Carolina being the location shoot for all three :yay:)

[MrSpoiler15]

Like many have said,
Hank, Janet, Ms. Marvel, Black Panther, and Vision. For the movie, it's too much though but one can dream.

[The Question]

Batman.

[Hawkingbird]

Batman.

Get out....:dry:

[psylockolussus]

Batman.

Is that a joke? or is it because WB can't make a live-action Justice League movie.

[dbxkilla]

doctor strange, giant man, wasp, and coulson as vision would be pretty cool as new members for the sequel

[Hawkingbird]

Let's not start a DK v Avengers argument or we may have a not so friendly visit from the mods....
And I think Coulson as Vision would be slightly annoying to us Vision fans. We want Vision. And Doc Strange is more a Defender really...

[dbxkilla]

well the concept of the movie and the comics are different the movie avengers is more like a last resort round up of heroes to deal with an enemy to powerful for one hero to deal with and doctor strange could be a hero they round up and also coulson can me the personality and mind that they base the vision instead of wonder man on he doesn't have to be the actual vision

[smashmode]

QuickSilver and Scarlett Witch and Vision

[dbxkilla]

the only problem with scarlett witch and quicksilver is that they would have to be re fit so that they have no ties to the xmen which is almost Impossible because their dad is the leader of the brotherhood of mutants

[Hawkingbird]

I don't think they'd ever do it to be honest. It would be too much effort when you could put in an equally popular character.

[MessiahDecoy123]

I can't decide whose powers are worse, The Wasp or Scarlett Witch.

If Ant Man didn't create Ultron I wouldn't even consider him.

[MessiahDecoy123]

and Coulson as Vision is a horrible, horrible idea.

I'd throw my gummi bears at the screen.

[Silvermoth]

I can't decide whose powers are worse, The Wasp or Scarlett Witch.

If Ant Man didn't create Ultron I wouldn't even consider him.

The Scarlet Witch has awesome powers! She's a reality warper plus she knows a couple of good spells like combustion. Plus she has tons of story potential.

She's at least as cool as Hermione Granger or cooler.

[cherokeesam]

and Coulson as Vision is a horrible, horrible idea.

I'd throw my gummi bears at the screen.

Agreed.
I *hate* the popular notion that's sprung up among posters here about Coulson becoming Vision.

The Scarlet Witch has awesome powers! She's a reality warper plus she knows a couple of good spells like combustion. Plus she has tons of story potential.

She's at least as cool as Hermione Granger or cooler.

Yup. Several writers have figured out that Wanda's powers, when done right, are downright godlike. See "Avengers Disassembled" and "House of M" to see just how jaw-droppingly powerful Scarlet Witch actually is.

[smashmode]

the only problem with scarlett witch and quicksilver is that they would have to be re fit so that they have no ties to the xmen which is almost Impossible because their dad is the leader of the brotherhood of mutants

Wasn't there a interview with Kevin Feige, that basically stated that they could be used just without mention of magneto? or BoM? Not sure how much you would have to do a retcon

[DrCosmic]

^Or mutants in any way. You'd have to do a significant retcon, making them almost unrecognizeable. I'd still do it, have them steal their powers from the inhumans, basically, but it would need its own movie. You can't just bring them whole cloth into an Avengers team up.

Agreed.
I *hate* the popular notion that's sprung up among posters here about Coulson becoming Vision.

Really? Why? Are you waiting for Simon Williams to show up?

Yup. Several writers have figured out that Wanda's powers, when done right, are downright godlike. See "Avengers Disassembled" and "House of M" to see just how jaw-droppingly powerful Scarlet Witch actually is.

I don't think that's story potential for her, though. When SW is used like that, she becomes a plot device, good for little more than having mental break downs and needing other characters to act on her to 'fix' her (because "oops, I lost control of my godly powers, but it's okay, I'm cool now" isn't a good story framework). I think if we want to use her as a character with development that doesn't relate directly to the end of life as we know it, that her uberpowers be sort of backgrounded, hinted at and foreshadowed, and she does get treated like a Hermoine Granger rather than The Phoenix Force.

[cherokeesam]

Really? Why? Are you waiting for Simon Williams to show up?

Not necessarily.

I think the likelihood of Wonder Man making it onto the team is still *at least* a decade away, if at all, and just going by fan-love, Marvel is more likely to push to bring Vision in even before Simon, which pretty much writes off his 616 backstory altogether.

But I think if Vision is to show up in the MCU, it makes more sense for his advanced AI to be something that already exists and can be (relatively) easily inserted into an android body. That's why the suggestions I hear about JARVIS becoming Vision's AI make more sense than any "brainwave scan" to use on Simon Williams *or* Phil Coulson.



I don't think that's story potential for her, though. When SW is used like that, she becomes a plot device, good for little more than having mental break downs and needing other characters to act on her to 'fix' her (because "oops, I lost control of my godly powers, but it's okay, I'm cool now" isn't a good story framework). I think if we want to use her as a character with development that doesn't relate directly to the end of life as we know it, that her uberpowers be sort of backgrounded, hinted at and foreshadowed, and she does get treated like a Hermoine Granger rather than The Phoenix Force.

Yeah, I *sure* as hell ain't in any hurry to see Wanda go all "Disassembled" on the team when they're just now in their infancy. If/when she joins, I'd like to see the *potential* there, but not to the point of breaking up the team and threatening the very existence of reality.

[MessiahDecoy123]

How are the movies going to explain Scarlet Witches powers?

[Hawkingbird]

It would be too complicated for non-Marvel readers.

[DrCosmic]

Really?

Quantum Physics-level control of reality manifesting as 'luck control.' Sounds pretty straightforward. The level of effect she has is scary, and perhaps could play a very well towards a threat that also has some sort of Quantum-level power. Like Thanos. or Kang.

Not necessarily.

I think the likelihood of Wonder Man making it onto the team is still *at least* a decade away, if at all, and just going by fan-love, Marvel is more likely to push to bring Vision in even before Simon, which pretty much writes off his 616 backstory altogether.

But I think if Vision is to show up in the MCU, it makes more sense for his advanced AI to be something that already exists and can be (relatively) easily inserted into an android body. That's why the suggestions I hear about JARVIS becoming Vision's AI make more sense than any "brainwave scan" to use on Simon Williams *or* Phil Coulson.

Yeah, I *sure* as hell ain't in any hurry to see Wanda go all "Disassembled" on the team when they're just now in their infancy. If/when she joins, I'd like to see the *potential* there, but not to the point of breaking up the team and threatening the very existence of reality.

Yeah, JARVIS would be the easiest. Tony could make Vision right now, and basically explain him with a single line of dialogue and a single establishing shot. It'd be hard to explain why we wouldn't call it JARVIS, though.

While not everyone's favorite idea, things like not showing what they did with Coulson's body (to the point that some ppl think he's still alive), and Fury's remark "I lost my good eye" set up for Coulson becoming "Vision." While certainly there's no such thing as brainwave scans, the idea of downloading someone's memory into a computer doesn't really seem too far out there. Of course, they haven't set anything like that up, so there's still a piece missing before that could happen. Still, I can see why the idea 'sticks' and it's growing on me quickly.

[cherokeesam]

Yeah, JARVIS would be the easiest. Tony could make Vision right now, and basically explain him with a single line of dialogue and a single establishing shot. It'd be hard to explain why we wouldn't call it JARVIS, though.



I could see Tony making a big deal out of creating an android and using JARVIS' AI to make it sentient, and then naming the prototype something grandiose, like "Vision."

[TacomaTruck90]

I'm with you on this one MK, I'm not a big fan of almost every superhero in the MU being Avengers and I definately don't want to see it happen in live action either.

:cool: :up:

I agree with both of you...I hope they just dont blow it out of proportion like some of the comics...however i would like to see Red Skull, and Loki again...idk its very early I would love to look back on this thread like mid 2014 after most of the movies from Phase II are out

[Hawkingbird]

I'd want Vision to be Vision. Ultron's creation.

[TacomaTruck90]

I would honestly just add Ant man and Wasp

[DrCosmic]

I could see Tony making a big deal out of creating an android and using JARVIS' AI to make it sentient, and then naming the prototype something grandiose, like "Vision."

That's interesting. I've never seen this Tony name anything grandiosely. Nor is JARVIS sentient, afaik. But he'd certainly make a big deal out of it, that's for sure.

[Artistsean]

It would bug me, personally, if Stark was the one to create the Vision. Taking that away from Pym and side stepping Ultron.
I would do this, Pym joins the team in one movie, the next film he creates Ultron and Ultron creates Vision. Vision and Pym stop Ultron.
Maybe Ultron also creates the Super Adaoptoids too (as his army).

I think that whoever they add to the team they do need more female members. So far its Black Widow and then 5 guys. Maybe they should add Ms. Marvel and Wasp (along with Pym).
I'd like to see Black Panther added as well, and eventually the Vision.

I would also love Rick Jones to be added as a kid who hangs around their mansion or something, don't know how he would be introduced. Maybe as a SHIELD agent. But I would LOVE a scene where Rick is in the Stark kitchen mooching, eating some of Stark's food, and the AI butler Jarvis is complaining. He and Jarvis could be a fun comedic team.

[DrCosmic]

If Pym's not available, or if Ultron/Vision were based on his work and Tony just restarted it, that wouldn't bother me so much. It'd be the best possible outcome.

Speaking of alternate origins and Ms. Marvel, I thought what if her origin was different, could she fit in someone else's movie? What if instead of an explosion involving Captain Marvel she got her powers from an explosion involving the Cosmic Cube? Or some of the cube energy source things from Phase II? In fact, that would actually tie into Cap's movie, if he's investigating New Hydra, working with SHIELD, he has Carol Danvers as a handler, she might get trapped with the stuff, Cap can't save her, boom! That way, you can introduce a new character in the sequel, like you did with Black Widow in the also SHIELD-heavy Iron Man 2. Could be fun.

[BigThor]

Black Panther
Ant-Man
The Wasp
Vision

Those are my top 4 as well, they could introduce Ant-Man and Wasp in A2 then bring in Black Panther and Vision for A3.

[Incredible Hans]

It would be too complicated for non-Marvel readers.

- "What is her power, Fury?"
- "She can manipulate probabilities. Make things happen that seem unlikely to happen. Of course, her power is not without limits. But for most people, it will look like magic. That's why we call her a witch."

Doesn't look too complicated for me and would take 10-15 seconds.

[dbxkilla]

I'm changing my characters to ant man, wasp, and vision. Doctor strange recently became an avenger in the comics and probably won't be till the third movie. BUt i would love to be proven wrong

[DrCosmic]

- "What is her power, Fury?"
- "She can manipulate probabilities. Make things happen that seem unlikely to happen. Of course, her power is not without limits. But for most people, it will look like magic. That's why we call her a witch."

Doesn't look too complicated for me and would take 10-15 seconds.

It's a little hard to establish and communicate limits for her powers though, that's the tricky part. It can be done, but it's certainly not easily done with a line of dialogue. With all the other characters, they really showed off their abilities and gave us benchmarks. Loki can take automatic gunfire without blinking, but can be buried if a building falls on him. His blast can take out a truck. Captain America's strong enough to one arm a gym bag, but not so strong to break it one punch. Hulk... well... Hulk just breaks everything he hits, but he has to hit it, and he also might hit everyone else. With SW, you can't really 'show' her powers being strained, and it's not easy to say 'she can't do this' in a way that's obvious and intuitive.

[BobJM]

If Pym's not available, or if Ultron/Vision were based on his work and Tony just restarted it, that wouldn't bother me so much. It'd be the best possible outcome.

Speaking of alternate origins and Ms. Marvel, I thought what if her origin was different, could she fit in someone else's movie? What if instead of an explosion involving Captain Marvel she got her powers from an explosion involving the Cosmic Cube? Or some of the cube energy source things from Phase II? In fact, that would actually tie into Cap's movie, if he's investigating New Hydra, working with SHIELD, he has Carol Danvers as a handler, she might get trapped with the stuff, Cap can't save her, boom! That way, you can introduce a new character in the sequel, like you did with Black Widow in the also SHIELD-heavy Iron Man 2. Could be fun.

I like that idea... easy way of setting up Carol for a TA2 that still could make sense in the MCU Phase II.

[MarvelKnight]

If Pym's not available, or if Ultron/Vision were based on his work and Tony just restarted it, that wouldn't bother me so much. It'd be the best possible outcome.

Speaking of alternate origins and Ms. Marvel, I thought what if her origin was different, could she fit in someone else's movie? What if instead of an explosion involving Captain Marvel she got her powers from an explosion involving the Cosmic Cube? Or some of the cube energy source things from Phase II? In fact, that would actually tie into Cap's movie, if he's investigating New Hydra, working with SHIELD, he has Carol Danvers as a handler, she might get trapped with the stuff, Cap can't save her, boom! That way, you can introduce a new character in the sequel, like you did with Black Widow in the also SHIELD-heavy Iron Man 2. Could be fun.

I, for one, would be cool with that alternate origin for Ms. Marvel. Do you think they'd stick with her Ms. Marvel name? Or would they change it for the MCU? If they did, hopefully they'd at least stick with a known comic alias and not make one up out of thin air.. I would go with Warbird if they don't use Ms. marvel.

[DrCosmic]

I have no idea. In a movie context, I always see Warbird as her kind of Air Force handle, what is on her pilot helmet/aircraft. I can't figure out a way to 'earn' the name Ms. Marvel. I think the "Ms." can be sarcastic at first, either from Tony or Fury, but why "Marvel?" Especially without Mahr Vehl in the mix, it's hard to say why anyone would refer to her as that. Hulk is a hulk, and it stuck. Iron man is a newspaper name thing, and he just owned it. Thor is his birth name. Captain America is a propaganda title that he took ownership of. Black Widow is a spy name, Hawkeye... well, that didn't even get mentioned, I don't think. Dr. Strange is his actual name. Black Panther is an office title. Ant-Man and Wasp are just plain old superhero descriptive goodness.

Ms. Marvel? I dunno. She might be braggadocios at one point and refer to herself as a modern marvel, and later Tony might address her as she comes in the room "Oh, well, if it isn't Ms. Marvel. Any [insert wisecrack]?" Of course, she could still be using her Warbird handle too, and that could just be an easter egg. I dunno.

[cherokeesam]

I like that idea... easy way of setting up Carol for a TA2 that still could make sense in the MCU Phase II.

That idea makes sense to me, too....as long as the MCU doesn't introduce Kree anytime soon.

It's a great alternate backstory for Carol, and works fine....what's important about Ms. Marvel is her powers, not so much her background. But if/when the Kree ever show up with Mar-Vell, the fanboy brigades are gonna start whining about comic book continuity. If that ever happens, maybe they can still make Carol intimately tied to the fate of the Kree through just a simple romance with Mar-Vell.

[Incredible Hans]

It's a little hard to establish and communicate limits for her powers though, that's the tricky part.

The same is true for any movie character who can do magic. So according to you, it should have been a problem for Harry Potter and it would be a problem for Doc Strange if he gets his own movie.

I, however, don't see that problem.

[DrCosmic]

That idea makes sense to me, too....as long as the MCU doesn't introduce Kree anytime soon.

It's a great alternate backstory for Carol, and works fine....what's important about Ms. Marvel is her powers, not so much her background. But if/when the Kree ever show up with Mar-Vell, the fanboy brigades are gonna start whining about comic book continuity. If that ever happens, maybe they can still make Carol intimately tied to the fate of the Kree through just a simple romance with Mar-Vell.

I agree 100%. Which is refreshing, because I really do appreciate your point of view, so it's nice to be on the same page for once.

The same is true for any movie character who can do magic. So according to you, it should have been a problem for Harry Potter and it would be a problem for Doc Strange if he gets his own movie.

I, however, don't see that problem.

No, it's not true for any character that does magic. In HP, for instance, they establish a very limited number of effects that Harry can do, starting with 0. They add to these effects over time. Same with Loki. Doc Strange may do something similar.

No movie character has just had the ability to affect everything from the get go. There is always a limit and a visual demonstration of them hitting that limit so you can put something bigger than that in front of them and keep the story tension. For Neo it was belief. For Inception people it was detection/resistance. Always a limit. What would be SW's? How easy would it be to visualize to the audience? Limit could be anything, but in every case, not easy to visualize. Possible, it'll just require some extra creative finesse.

If it's the same as HPs, it'll be very easy, she can only deflect projectiles, or shapepshift, or make bright lights of goodness.

[Silvermoth]

I have no idea. In a movie context, I always see Warbird as her kind of Air Force handle, what is on her pilot helmet/aircraft. I can't figure out a way to 'earn' the name Ms. Marvel. I think the "Ms." can be sarcastic at first, either from Tony or Fury, but why "Marvel?" Especially without Mahr Vehl in the mix, it's hard to say why anyone would refer to her as that. Hulk is a hulk, and it stuck. Iron man is a newspaper name thing, and he just owned it. Thor is his birth name. Captain America is a propaganda title that he took ownership of. Black Widow is a spy name, Hawkeye... well, that didn't even get mentioned, I don't think. Dr. Strange is his actual name. Black Panther is an office title. Ant-Man and Wasp are just plain old superhero descriptive goodness.

Ms. Marvel? I dunno. She might be braggadocios at one point and refer to herself as a modern marvel, and later Tony might address her as she comes in the room "Oh, well, if it isn't Ms. Marvel. Any [insert wisecrack]?" Of course, she could still be using her Warbird handle too, and that could just be an easter egg. I dunno.

Easy. She's a Marvel and likes the honorific. She knows everyone else has a codename so she gives herself one. Done!

- "What is her power, Fury?"
- "She can manipulate probabilities. Make things happen that seem unlikely to happen. Of course, her power is not without limits. But for most people, it will look like magic. That's why we call her a witch."

Doesn't look too complicated for me and would take 10-15 seconds.

How are the movies going to explain Scarlet Witches powers?

Easy enough, they've already talked about magic. If magic can exist as well as gods, then so can witches. Wanda is a witch. It would be handy to have a witch on a team of superheroes.

[DrCosmic]

Easy. She's a Marvel and likes the honorific. She knows everyone else has a codename so she gives herself one. Done!

Sometimes you'll hear writers or directors talking about 'earning' something in a story, or doing responsible storytelling. When something is contrived or forced, it comes out, and is off putting. An airforce intelligence agent randomly picking the word marvel out of thin air and the adding the very non superheroic 'Ms.' to it in order to fit in with a bunch of superheroes (why would she want to, again?). That's not honest storytelling. That's ignoring the story to get what you want, and it makes for a bad movie.

Easy enough, they've already talked about magic. If magic can exist as well as gods, then so can witches. Wanda is a witch. It would be handy to have a witch on a team of superheroes.

You mean Science!Magic? And Alien!Gods? Cuz that's what they've done. What would be the Sci-Fi explanation for 'witch?'

[Closerframe]

Avengers I'd like to see

-Ant-Man
-Black Panther
-Dr. Strange
-She Hulk
-The Wasp
-War Machine
-Vision

Villains I'd like to see

-Kang
-Korvac
-Ultron
-Skrull
-Red Skull

[Stark Bauer]

Though unlikely, I think including Spidey in The Avengers somewhere down the road would guarantee an even larger BO draw then TA.

Realistically, I would like to see
War Machine and
Nathan Fillion as Henry Pym in TA2.


Villain should be a team of villains - one from each franchise.
Ultron,
Red Skull,
Mandarin,
The Leader or Absorbing Man,
while Thanos is pulling the strings.

Maybe Loki can help TA fight.

[Hawkingbird]

Spidey and Wolvie will NEVER be in the lineup. The best chance we have of that is in the cartoon....which won't be EMH D:

[cherokeesam]

Spidey and Wolvie will NEVER be in the lineup. The best chance we have of that is in the cartoon....which won't be EMH D:

Not in the foreseeable future, of course, since Wolverine is Fox's cash cow and Spidey is the only thing Sony has left.

But people who keep up with these things (including me) know full well that Sony's studios are on their last legs right now. The studio has been bleeding like a sieve and losing billions of dollars....it's only a matter of time before it folds, or at least has to resort to desperate measures to stay afloat.

That's why a lot of Spidey fans are smelling blood in the water and drooling over the very real possibility that Marvel Studios might have Webhead back in the next couple of years or so.

[Stark Bauer]

Sony's studios are on their last legs right now. The studio has been bleeding like a sieve and losing billions of dollars....it's only a matter of time before it folds, or at least has to resort to desperate measures to stay afloat.

That's why a lot of Spidey fans are smelling blood in the water and drooling over the very real possibility that Marvel Studios might have Webhead back in the next couple of years or so.

HYPE-RESTORED!
http://www.blogography.com/photos57/AvengersAssembled.jpg

[Batfan2289]

She-Hulk

[marcvader]

So far I see alot of typical FOX style of retrofitting and shoehorning from you guys. No thanks. Marvel has stayed for the most part true to their characters without wholesale changes for the sake of it.

[Denny67]

http://comicattack.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Ms_Marvel_39.jpg or http://www.deviantart.com/download/63487436/She_Hulk_23_by_Summerset.jpg

&

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51363/1251738-what_if___05___01___the_avengers___disassembled___ 04_super.jpg

[Dark Raven]

Mockingbird should be an easy shoe-in for an Avengers movie, even in a cameo role. She could've even been in the first movie just as Agent Morse. I wish more SHIELD agents actually featured like Clay Quartermain. A few throwaway names could easily have been made.

[Silvermoth]

She-Hulk

You never know, Angie's wish to play that role could be the thing which grants your wish :woot:

[DrCosmic]

^If it's the angie I'm thinking of, she'd need to gain a LOT of weight.

Mockingbird would be easy to put in, but in a movie this packed, throwaway characters can easily end up on the cutting room floor. I think the best place to introduce new SHIELD characters might be a Cap movie.

[Silvermoth]

I would be kind of concerned about adding Mockingbird into an Avengers sequel because the complaint I heard most about the Widow is that everyone has cool superpowers except her. She just has a gun.

The Widow was awesome in Avengers 2 but I would love to see a super powered heroine in the sequel.

I like your idea of adding her to Shield in a Cap movie though or better yet, a Shield movie.

[DrCosmic]

Yeah, a SHIELD movie would pretty much butter all my biscuits. Too bad it's like a distant, distant priority.

[Jake Cassidy]

Cosmic Avengers

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38888/2221135-899598_844833_ms_marvel_steps_12___13_by_davidyard in_super_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/2355/1124277-quasar_super.jpg

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/thumb/b/b3/Nova442.jpg/406px-Nova442.jpg

[Doomed_hero]

vision and ms marvel. Vision is simple with a ultron type film and ms. marvel could be nicely put in with the inculsion of thanos and I agree its time me saw a super powerded female go ape ****.

[Jake Cassidy]

http://highbridnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/blackpanther.jpg

[Jake Cassidy]

http://comicattack.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/457860-falcon550.jpg

[Jake Cassidy]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/83789/1893829-valkyrie05.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/999395-avengers_initiative_tigra_super.jpg

[Oberon sexton]

Personally I think She-Hulk takes away from the Hulk. :o

[jaqua99]

This is who I want. Ms Marvel, Mar-Vell, Nova, Vision, and Ant - Man, Nova is iffy. I dont want anyone else. Thats right, no black panther for this guy.

[DrCosmic]

There's no Rogue in the MCU.

I love how not wanting Black Panther is a shocking dissent.

And I agree, She-Hulk kills the 'this is an uncontrollable force' with the character who's like "oh, yeah, I'm still normal, what's the big deal?"

[BigThor]

Personally I think She-Hulk takes away from the Hulk. :o

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so, I'm pretty sure one Hulk is enough. :word:

[flickchick85]

I agree on She-Hulk. I mean, I've been vocal about wanting to see a female powerhouse on the team, but I just don't think She-Hulk is the one for the job.

[BigThor]

I agree on She-Hulk. I mean, I've been vocal about wanting to see a female powerhouse on the team, but I just don't think She-Hulk is the one for the job.

I don't think she is either, I'd say Ms. Marvel is the one for the job since she's not just a female version of a current team member.

[flickchick85]

I don't think she is either, I'd say Ms. Marvel is the one for the job since she's not just a female version of a current team member.
Agreed, Ms. Marvel is my #1 wish. :up:

Sadly, I'm afraid Feige & Co. don't feel the same way, since we haven't even heard the slightest mention of her in any of his plans. But maybe that's just because she's not a potential solo project in Phase II. I'm still holding out hope that Danvers may show up in one of the other solo projects of the next 2 years so that A2 can set up her origin.

[mr. peasant]

I agree on She-Hulk. I mean, I've been vocal about wanting to see a female powerhouse on the team, but I just don't think She-Hulk is the one for the job.

Two words: Squirrel Girl :oldrazz:

[Lady Marion]

It's simple. Want to see

Black Panther
Ms. Marvel
Wasp
Antman

As villains besides Thanos:
Kang the Conqueror
Ultron

[BigThor]

It's simple. Want to see

Black Panther
Ms. Marvel
Wasp
Antman

As villains besides Thanos:
Kang the Conqueror
Ultron

Same here :up:

[Boom]

... Spider-Man.


:csad:

[psylockolussus]

Updated list:
Ant-Man
Black Panther
Dr. Strange
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Ms. Marvel
She-Hulk
Spider-Woman
Wasp

[cherokeesam]

I don't think she is either, I'd say Ms. Marvel is the one for the job since she's not just a female version of a current team member.

Neither is Wasp. Or Scarlet Witch.

But I think some of you are totally misreading who She-Hulk is. She-Hulk is NOT "a female version of the Hulk." Hulk is "RRARRRGHHH HULK SMASH," while Shulkie is sexy, sassy, spunky, and smart. Shulkie's character has always been more about brains than brawn. Yeah, she's super strong, we get that, but not to Hulk levels; but she has the intelligence to control and direct her strength in ways that Hulk is just simply too stupid to understand.

[Silvermoth]

Agreed. Plus there's no reason why she couldn't pop up in an Incredible Hulk movie and then move to the Avengers when everyone loves her as much as the fans do. :woot:

People seem to think she will take away from the Hulk but I think she adds an interesting dynamic. What makes the Hulk so angry? Gamma Radiation? No.

It's the abuse he suffered from his dad when he was a kid. It would be interesting if the next Hulk film dealt with that, Peter David style

[Oberon sexton]

How exactly do you see them utilising Shulkie then? How would she work with the Hulk around? What would their interaction be?

[marcvader]

Henry Pym, Janet Van Dyne, and Vis. Nuff said.

[cherokeesam]

How exactly do you see them utilising Shulkie then? How would she work with the Hulk around? What would their interaction be?

Very little interaction, actually. There were/are surprisingly few team-ups/clashes with Shulkie and Hulk; instead, She-Hulk did her own thing in her own comic for awhile, then hung out with the Fantastic Four for awhile, then hooked up with the Avengers. She had a whole lot more interaction with the FF and Avengers than she did with Hulk.

Shulkie serves more in an almost comedic role. Style-wise, Shulkie in the comics is a lot like Deadpool, with a lot of inside jokes for the fans and crossing the fourth wall and all that. She'd make an outstanding TV series --- hell, David E. Kelley should've tried to do a TV show about *her* instead of Wonder Woman, because Jenn is almost literally Ally McBeal with green skin.

[Ash Talon]

Apparently, Joe Quesada mentioned recently that there is a Ms. Marvel feature script finished and they're looking to cast her. If true, it's really been kept secret. I would suppose her film could be one of the films for 2014. Introduce her just in time to join the team in Avengers 2. This could be quite the ground-breaking superhero film. When's the last time we got a good (hoping) female superhero movie? Never.

[Ash Talon]

While I've really grown to like She-Hulk as a character, I just don't think she'd work in films. One, you either have to paint a really tall/bulky actress. Having her CGI, might be too cost-prohibitive. Unless she changes into She-Hulk like the Hulk. My other concern is that to general audiences, she'll probably just seem like a silly twist on Hulk. And she'll ultimately just water down the Hulk. Maybe if they have Hulk quit the Avengers and move on to his solo movies (which don't seem to work) or tv adventures, She-Hulk could replace him on the Avengers. However, audiences are really responding to the Hulk in Avengers because of his attitude. She-Hulk isn't the same.

I think they should just leave the Hulk on Avengers for now. Maybe have him quit by end of Avengers 2 to make room for other teammates. I think Hulk works in Avengers, because he's barely in it. He's not carrying the entire film. And it's his interplay (even if it's just hitting or yelling at them) with his teammates that makes him interesting. Remove that interaction, and Hulk might just become uninteresting.

[marcvader]

Apparently, Joe Quesada mentioned recently that there is a Ms. Marvel feature script finished and they're looking to cast her. If true, it's really been kept secret. I would suppose her film could be one of the films for 2014. Introduce her just in time to join the team in Avengers 2. This could be quite the ground-breaking superhero film. When's the last time we got a good (hoping) female superhero movie? Never.

I think this has been debunked on another website by people who were at Kapow which is where it originated from.

[Chewy]

I think this has been debunked on another website by people who were at Kapow which is where it originated from.
It hasn't.

[marcvader]

So he did say it?

[Chewy]

No idea, but the reporter was saying he told her it during a one-on-one convo after the panel.

So all of the CBM writers going on with "I was at the panel he didn't say that!!!!!" are barking up the wrong tree

[cherokeesam]

No idea, but the reporter was saying he told her it during a one-on-one convo after the panel.

So all of the CBM writers going on with "I was at the panel he didn't say that!!!!!" are barking up the wrong tree


But the fact that the source is a single fanblog and has yet to be corroborated by anyone else means that you should take the Ms. Marvel rumor with an exceptionally large grain of salt.

[DrCosmic]

Hmmm... it depends on the blog. If they don't do bogus stories, and they have a story which sounds believable (as this one does) and inherently can't be corroborated, then what reason would we have to not believe it?

We already know a Ms. Marvel film is not being made, now, we simply know why.

[STR1]

I know Warmachine is not part of the original Avengers but he is already part of the Marvel movieverse. I would like to see War Machine in Avengers 2 atleast on a minor roll.

[cherokeesam]

I know Warmachine is not part of the original Avengers but he is already part of the Marvel movieverse. I would like to see War Machine in Avengers 2 atleast on a minor roll.

I fully support this post; and screw the War Machine haters. :oldrazz:

[Incredible Hans]

Since Garfield said he wishes to be in Avengers 2 as Spider-Man... do you think it will happen?

[The Morningstar]

Short answer? No.

[Incredible Hans]

Short answer? No.

Good.

[The Ironstar]

If they introduce the Wasp. I like this woman to play her.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1659547/

[Angamb]

Ant-man

Ant-man

Ant-man

and Wasp.

Did I say Antman? :woot:

[cherokeesam]

If they introduce the Wasp. I like this woman to play her.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1659547/


I wouldn't mind her one bit.
And if they do cast her, I hope they make her British. Or at least European (Dutch).

I'm on a mission to Briticize the Ant-Man film, since that's the setting Wright is best at. Plus, it would give the MCU some more worldly appeal instead of trying to center the entire superhero universe on New York City, like Marvel has overwhelmingly done over the decades.

[Jake Cassidy]

^ That's why I'd love to see Black Panther, Namor and Ka-Zar.

[Silvermoth]

I'm on a mission to Briticize the Ant-Man film, since that's the setting Wright is best at.

No.

Briticize the whole Avengers :woot:

^ That's why I'd love to see Black Panther, Namor and Ka-Zar.

Ka-Zar? That's random.

Seriously though, that's part of why I wanted Wanda and Pietro. To me, they're not only European but quintessionally so. It would definetly make the Avengers feel more global if they were in it.

[Hawkingbird]

Henry Pym, Janet Van Dyne, and Vis. Nuff said.

They're at my top with Ms.Marvel.

[The Infernal]

I'd like to see Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel (I don't think it would be good just to skip the Captain just to get the Ms). I also wouldn't mind Vision or She-Hulk (though maybe her at a later date or Hulk sequel).

I fully support this post; and screw the War Machine haters. :oldrazz:

I'm not a hater and I love that he's in the Iron Man movies, but I've not great need to see him in the Avengers. I think his presence would be more of a nuisance than anything and they have to establish some of the more well known Avengers before they start with the sidekicks.

If he appeared in a small role it would be too much of a headache trying to justify why he isn't helping out with the main team since he's just as capable as any other Iron Man or any other Avenger.

Since Garfield said he wishes to be in Avengers 2 as Spider-Man... do you think it will happen?

lol, no. I wouldn't mind seeing him in an eventual sequel (or a MCU event storyline film seperate to Avengers), but 2 and maybe not 3 either. But right now it seems pretty unlikely (not impossible though) and even if they could they should feel obligate to do the core Avengers and some of the more iconic Avengers before they do the New Avengers including Spider-man and Wolverine.

[The Question]

I think She-Hulk is the most logical addition to the team, as Joss has said he wanted to add another female member and her origin is directly tied to The Hulk so fitting her in without too much explanation would be easy.

[The Infernal]

I think She-Hulk is the most logical addition to the team, as Joss has said he wanted to add another female member and her origin is directly tied to The Hulk so fitting her in without too much explanation would be easy.

Can't say I agree. It might be more simple to have a character with an origin tied to a hero who's already established and she might have a completely different personality, but I think we should shy away from adding people with power sets that are too samey to what we've already got.

Also, Black Panther is another one that would be a possibly cool addition.

[The Question]

Can't say I agree. It might be more simple to have a character with an origin tied to a hero who's already established and she might have a completely different personality, but I think we should shy away from adding people with power sets that are too samey to what we've already got.

Why?

[Radioactive1980]

Jessica Drew/Spider-Woman.

[The Infernal]

Why?

Because it would be kinda redundant and there are more unique heroes who are both completely different characters to those already established and have entirely different power sets.

Jessica Drew/Spider-Woman.

Damn, I keep forgetting about her. I'd really love to see the (non-Ultimate :oldrazz:) Jessica Drew version of Spider-woman on the big screen. I'd love to see how they would translate her suit. Someone should really ask Feige the next time they're interviewing him on the possibilities of seeing her or what he thinks of her.

[jaqua99]

I'd like to see Hank Pym, Black Panther, Ms. Marvel, and Vision show up in future Avengers film.

this. minus black panther.

[Hawkingbird]

I think She-Hulk is the most logical addition to the team, as Joss has said he wanted to add another female member and her origin is directly tied to The Hulk so fitting her in without too much explanation would be easy.

....NO...not...She-Hulk....

[M-2]

No one with 'Spider-Anything' should be in the Avengers, imho. I would like for them to stick to actual Avengers. I don't want them to go the comics route in terms of making every hero they have the rights too and their mother an avenger. It's watered down, diluted and plain idiotic.

Plus, I don't think it would work to have 15 heroes on screen to go with the supporting cast marvel keeps putting in its movies.

Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Bucky Cap if he shows up in present day and get rid of Rogers for a while. I wouldn't mind seeing Cap retire from Avengers in MCU at some point and head up SHIELD if they keep the MCU machine rolling after Avengers 3

If they get past 3 avengers movies sure throw in some other less known avengers(by less known i mean heroes that aren't thought of as only avengers). I don't know, I'm just a bit old school in that way I guess.

Not everybody has to be an Avenger.... They could bring Spider-Woman, simply as Jessica Drew a defected Hydra agent, they could just tease her powers, and because of her connection to Hydra she could be better utilized in a Cap movie.

Ms Marvel is another character that should be introduced as just an Air Force officer, In a later film you have her become Ms Marvel.

She-Hulk has such an easy origin story they could do it in a Hulk or Avengers film, once she transforms she is Taken in by SHEILD and starts to work with them.

Luke Cage and Iron Fist can start Heroes for Hire after witnessing what happened in New York, and not necessarily become Avengers in the Marvel Cinematic Universe...

I think Marvel should just focus on expanding the characters in the Universe without necessarily having everyone become Avengers.

They could even start teasing a Secret Avengers initiative in Caps films, with him setting up a team to infiltrate world governments and organizations like A.I.M. Or Hydra, these characters that team up with Cap don't have to join him in Avengers,

The Avengers should kinda be like the team full of the best people for the right situation.

[M-2]

I wouldn't mind her one bit.
And if they do cast her, I hope they make her British. Or at least European (Dutch).

I'm on a mission to Briticize the Ant-Man film, since that's the setting Wright is best at. Plus, it would give the MCU some more worldly appeal instead of trying to center the entire superhero universe on New York City, like Marvel has overwhelmingly done over the decades.

Lol My thoughts exactly!!! Im Hoping that Berenice Bejo, The chick from the artist gets the role!! A think a French Wasp will be awesome!!! She does have a thing for Fashion and Fine living after all!

[cherokeesam]

Lol My thoughts exactly!!! Im Hoping that Berenice Bejo, The chick from the artist gets the role!! A think a French Wasp will be awesome!!! She does have a thing for Fashion and Fine living after all!

Works for me.

Some people might complain that at 35, she's already getting too old for the part, though.

[Radioactive1980]

Damn, I keep forgetting about her. I'd really love to see the (non-Ultimate :oldrazz:) Jessica Drew version of Spider-woman on the big screen. I'd love to see how they would translate her suit. Someone should really ask Feige the next time they're interviewing him on the possibilities of seeing her or what he thinks of her.

The best thing to do there would be to KEEP IT EXACTLY THE FREAKING SAME.

I hate the Garfield Spider-costume, they totally ballsed it up.

[M-2]

Works for me.

Some people might complain that at 35, she's already getting too old for the part, though.

Lol She's not too old!! Lol Clark Gregg, Agent Coulson, is 50!!! Lol Marvel just cast people that fit the role perfectly. Age shouldn't come into play...

[Brian Braddock]

Pym,
The Vision,
Mar-vell,
Wonder-Man,
Black Panther,

[Chewy]

Pym,
The Vision,
Mar-vell,
Wonder-Man,
Black Panther,
I don't see Ms Marvel on your list

So unfortunately I have to give you a D+ for now :jedi

[cherokeesam]

Lol She's not too old!! Lol Clark Gregg, Agent Coulson, is 50!!! Lol Marvel just cast people that fit the role perfectly. Age shouldn't come into play...

I agree, but you can't very well compare a middle-aged Fed in a suit with a hot young superheroine. Marvel, fans and general audiences alike are going to expect and want a hottie for roles like Wasp, Black Widow (done), Scarlet Witch, Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk. They probably won't be too keen on casting milfs and cougars for those parts.

[The Question]

Because it would be kinda redundant and there are more unique heroes who are both completely different characters to those already established and have entirely different power sets.

I think She-Hulk, as a character, would be a good addition to the team. Is power diversity that big a deal?

[Zarex]

I think the "couples" approach worked extremely well in both the on screen action and the pre movie interview sessions, so I can see either Whedon or his replacement adding another pairing to join Banner/Stark, Barton/Romanoff and Odinson/Rogers.

The obvious choice would be to add a Van Dyne/Pym team to the sequel and call it a day. But while that would add another female to the team, I don't think adding a romantic couple with a similar power set is a good idea and it doesn't address the team's lack of diversity.

My guess is that the Falcon will join the team for the sequel. He should be introduced when Captain America: Agent of SHIELD is released in 2014, addresses the diversity issue and his flying harness should look terrific on screen. And since we are going with the Ultimate version of the Falcon, I would pair Sam with the Ultimate female version of the Vision. This character could be introduced as a creation of Ultron, an MCU version of Jacosta who rebels against her creator. Given the mechanical nature of the character, the Vision should work equally well either in male or female form.

[The Question]

Thing is, you need to create Ultrom before you create The Vision. And you kind of need Hank Pym for that.

[Rock Sexton]

I think She-Hulk, as a character, would be a good addition to the team. Is power diversity that big a deal?

Please no cheap knockoffs.

[The Question]

Please no cheap knockoffs.

She-Hulk's not a cheap knock off, she's a great character. I've usually preferred her solo series over The Hulk's over the past ten years.

[Zarex]

Thing is, you need to create Ultrom before you create The Vision. And you kind of need Hank Pym for that.

The plan assumes an Ant Man movie takes place before Avengers 2 and that Ultron is introduced as a Pym creation that rebels against its "father".

[Rock Sexton]

She-Hulk's not a cheap knock off, she's a great character. I've usually preferred her solo series over The Hulk's over the past ten years.

Nope, she's most definitely a cheap knockoff. The kind of thing comic writers are forced into after writing for decades and running out of material. The movie universe has larger time/momentum constraints so they have plenty of ORIGINAL characters to unspool before ever having to rely on showcasing somebody like She-Hulk who's just a female version of a character we already have. It cheapens Hulk's uniqueness. I suppose you liked BatGirl from the Batman and Robin stinkfest too.

[The Question]

Nope, she's most definitely a cheap knockoff. The kind of thing comic writers are forced into after writing for decades and running out of material. The movie universe has larger time/momentum constraints so they have plenty of ORIGINAL characters to unspool before ever having to rely on showcasing somebody like She-Hulk who's just a female version of a character we already have. It cheapens Hulk's uniqueness. I suppose you liked BatGirl from the Batman and Robin stinkfest too.

Have you ever even read a She-Hulk story? The only thing she and The Hulk have in common is that they're both green, strong, and have "hulk" in their name. She-Hulk is a wise cracking big city criminal defense lawyer/superhero who suffers no personality change when she transforms, is in complete control of her powers, and is a beloved super hero who's identity is known to the public. In pretty much every way that counts she isn't anything like The Hulk.

Besides, including She-Hulk makes sense because her origin is tied directly into The Hulk: She gets injured and gets a blood transfusion from him and gains his powers. Makes it easier to fit her into a movie. And, she's established in the comics as having a very long tenure as a member of The Avengers. Longer than The Hulk's by a long way, actually.

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Nope, she's most definitely a cheap knockoff. The kind of thing comic writers are forced into after writing for decades and running out of material. The movie universe has larger time/momentum constraints so they have plenty of ORIGINAL characters to unspool before ever having to rely on showcasing somebody like She-Hulk who's just a female version of a character we already have. It cheapens Hulk's uniqueness. I suppose you liked BatGirl from the Batman and Robin stinkfest too.

Please explain how She-Hulk is just a "female version" and "knockoff" of Hulk.

Shulkie is intelligent, controls her rage, doesn't get nearly as big and strong as Hulk, maintains the same identity and intellectual levels as her "normal" self....in fact, Hulk-form IS her normal self.

Her personality and power set don't even faintly resemble Hulk's.

[The Question]

Please explain how She-Hulk is just a "female version" and "knockoff" of Hulk.

Shulkie is intelligent, controls her rage, doesn't get nearly as big and strong as Hulk, maintains the same identity and intellectual levels as her "normal" self....in fact, Hulk-form IS her normal self.

Her personality and power set don't even faintly resemble Hulk's.

Her power set is the same, if slightly muted. Although I think it's established that, while not as strong, she's faster and more agile than The Hulk and she can use that to her advantage and hold her own in a fight with him.