The Official Raphael Thread

[louiebling$]

This Thread is Dedicated to our Angsty Lone Wolf Badass with the Red Bandana!

[DoomsdayApex]

Ralph is #1 in my heart.

I personally want too see some awkward moments between him and Leo regarding following orders and his aggression.

[Octoberist]

I would like to see the bond between Mikey and Raph too.

[Carnage27]

As I said in the last thread, please don't have another "Raph gets mad and runs away" storyline in here. It's been done to death.

[DoomsdayApex]

I would like to see the bond between Mikey and Raph too.

As I said in the last thread, please don't have another "Raph gets mad and runs away" storyline in here. It's been done to death.

This and This.

[Octoberist]

Not to bring up the wonderful IDW comics again, there's a cute moment when Mikey takes Raph to the pizza parlor. Just read it, it's enduring.

[Carnage27]

Not to bring up the wonderful IDW comics again, there's a cute moment when Mikey takes Raph to the pizza parlor. Just read it, it's enduring.

Ugh. That's one of the few moments in the IDW run I had to struggle to get through.

Mikey was SO annoying there.

[Octoberist]

I loved it. Why was it annoying? It's a great character moment between the turtles.

[DoomsdayApex]

Not to bring up the wonderful IDW comics again, there's a cute moment when Mikey takes Raph to the pizza parlor. Just read it, it's enduring.

I'll have to now. That's sounds adorable. :up:

On the topic of his fighting style, what arts (apart from Ninpo aka Ninjutsu) should Ralph employ?

I've always envisioned Ralph utilizing Muay Thai, Kyokushin Karate and Greco-Roman Wrestling. They're aggressive and powerful arts in nature that match Ralph's personality.

[Carnage27]

I loved it. Why was it annoying? It's a great character moment between the turtles.

The dialogue was obnoxious with him slobbering about the pizza guy. The moment was nice, but Mikey's dialogue was not endearing at all.

[Octoberist]

It's comic book pulp. that's all. I think there are exceptions to the rule when it comes to 'cheese'. I personally didn't think it's bad writing.

[louiebling$]

I'll have to now. That's sounds adorable. :up:

On the topic of his fighting style, what arts (apart from Ninpo aka Ninjutsu) should Ralph employ?

I've always envisioned Ralph utilizing Muay Thai, Kyokushin Karate and Greco-Roman Wrestling. They're aggressive and powerful arts in nature that match Ralph's personality.
I envision Raph Being the MMA Guy...I can see him integrating Boxing,Kickboxing,and Wrestling into his style

[louiebling$]

I would like to see the bond between Mikey and Raph too.
Yea that's one thing that hasn't been touched on in the movies or Cartoon ...in the original comics Raph and Mikey are really close but the cartoon and movies changed it to Donnie and Mikey

[Octoberist]

and Donnie is suppose to be the guy in whom all of the Turtles like so he tends to be caught in-between everything.

[DoomsdayApex]

I envision Raph Being the MMA Guy...I can see him integrating Boxing,Kickboxing,and Wrestling into his style

The problem is MMA isn't a style. It's a system like Systema.

[The Morningstar]

I think Raph's fighting style should be almost, brutish. He's an aggressive, easily annoyed grump (i say that in the nicest possible way!). That should be reflected in how he fights.

Mikey should have a lot of "flair" to his style.

Donnie should be kinda, nonchalant and composed.

Leo should be precise, like a surgeon.

[DoomsdayApex]

With Mikey, I expect TKD, Capoeira and Drunken Fist.

Donnie should incorporate Judo, Pekiti-Tirsia Kali and Shotokan Karate.

Leo is easily a Jujutsu, Kenjutsu and ****o-Ryu Karate guy.

[louiebling$]

The problem is MMA isn't a style. It's a system like Systema.
Well I never said it was a style :p

I just said I can see raph being the mma guy and I could easily see him implementing those various forms of martial arts like Kickboxing,Boxing and Wrestling into his style of fighting

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Cricket?

[ShredderX]

I love Raphael " the wolverine " of the Tmnt. My favorite version would have to be Josh Pais from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990). When I was a kid, I was kinda suprised to find out that Josh was a white dude, because his Raph always reminded me of Ice Cube for some reason.

Rob Paulsen Ralph from the Fred Wolf toon was my second favorite because he was such a wise ass. The 4Kids Ralph is my third favorite.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Speaking of O'Shea Jackson, check out the YouTube video "Raphael is a Gangsta". It's not Hype friendly but also really funny.

[ShredderX]

Speaking of O'Shea Jackson, check out the YouTube video "Raphael is a Gangsta". It's not Hype friendly but also really funny.

Will Do !

[ShredderX]

Just checked out " Raphael is gangsta ' on Youtube. LMFAO !!!! Whats so weird , like I posted earlier, I thought Josh Pais Ralph sounded and acted like Ice Cube. Now someone synced Ralph's scenes with soundbytes from Ice Cube movies, and THEY FIT !! LOL. SO WEIRD, BUT FUNNY AS HELL !! Thnaks Blitz !

[Gamma Goliath]

I wouldn't mind if Raph was voiced by a black guy in the new movie.

[The Morningstar]

I really liked his thick Brooklyn type of speech in the original movie.

[louiebling$]

I really liked his thick Brooklyn type of speech in the original movie.

So did I....as a kid that version was the definition of Raph to me..

Even watching the cartoon that raph didn't compare to movie raph...it made a lasting impression on me

[Octoberist]

Raph has had the Brooklyn accent since the first film, from the sequels to the 2003 cartoon to TMNT.

[Mindreaper21]

Classic.

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[The Morningstar]

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[louiebling$]

Raph has had the Brooklyn accent since the first film, from the sequels to the 2003 cartoon to TMNT.
I didn't really watch the 2003 cartoon all that much so I can't remember =/

[Octoberist]

Yeah, Raph's had the new york accent since the first live action Ninja Turtles film. Kinda like..how Leo's voice from the 80's cartoon influenced the casting of the preceding Leo voices in the movies and later TV shows/cartoons. All of the Leo voice has the same tone as the original Leo.

[Project862006]

in honor of the thread title!!!:awesome:
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[The Morningstar]

:funny: I love that scene.

"Looked sorta like a big turtle, in a trench coat"

[The /]

:funny: I love that scene.

"Looked sorta like a big turtle, in a trench coat"

I love that the actor who did the voice of Raphael in the first film, Josh Pais, is the guy in the back of the cab. All these years later, I still get a chuckle out of that because you can definitely hear Raph in his voice when he says "What the heck was that?!" For me, it's always fun to watch Scream 3, because Josh Pais plays a detective in that movie and every line he utters, I feel like I'm listening to Raph.

[Octoberist]

Am I the only one who freaked out that Raph in the live action movies were voiced by different actors? I thought Josh Pais did all three movies!

[BruceWanner]

Does anyone else think Josh Pais sounded like he was kind of doing a John Travolta/Tony Manero impression at some points when voicing Raphael?

[ShredderX]

Does anyone else think Josh Pais sounded like he was kind of doing a John Travolta/Tony Manero impression at some points when voicing Raphael?

As a kid, I thought he was doing Ice Cube. Especially with the walk, and mannerisms.

[Project862006]

Ralph Reacts to Michael Bay Doing TMNT:oldrazz:
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[Mindreaper21]

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What would you like to see Raph do in this film?

[warhorse78]

As I said in the last thread, please don't have another "Raph gets mad and runs away" storyline in here. It's been done to death.

But, it's part of his character. It's what he does. He get's ticked off about something, goes away to cool his head, and tends to come back just in the nick of time.

[warhorse78]

I love that the actor who did the voice of Raphael in the first film, Josh Pais, is the guy in the back of the cab. All these years later, I still get a chuckle out of that because you can definitely hear Raph in his voice when he says "What the heck was that?!" For me, it's always fun to watch Scream 3, because Josh Pais plays a detective in that movie and every line he utters, I feel like I'm listening to Raph.

1990 Raph was unique, because he was the only one voiced and did the stunt work by the same man. The other Turtles were voiced and acted by different individuals. Also, all of the stunt actors had brief cameos in the movie as well.

[Octoberist]

But, it's part of his character. It's what he does. He get's ticked off about something, goes away to cool his head, and tends to come back just in the nick of time.

But you can't use that as a crutch for every movie and say that's 'his character arc'; it becomes less effective and compelling that way.

[ShredderX]

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What would you like to see Raph do in this film?

Finally go beserk, and off somebody like Wolverine did to Stryker's soldiers in X2.

[The Morningstar]

Yea i think that could be interesting. Instead of the cliche "Raph gets mad and runs away". They could maybe show Raph go a little too far, and deal with the ramifications of that.

Maybe not actually kill someone, but you know, go completely ape **** and brutalise them, make his brothers shocked, maybe even a little frightened.

[louiebling$]

Yea i think that could be interesting. Instead of the cliche "Raph gets mad and runs away". They could maybe show Raph go a little too far, and deal with the ramifications of that.

Maybe not actually kill someone, but you know, go completely ape **** and brutalise them, make his brothers shocked, maybe even a little frightened.

100% Agreed....that is the exact appraoch they need to take...it would be the perfect way to bring a new take on Raph without changing his character :up:

[GuestStar2004]

when bay was talking about them being from another planet or whatever he did say that KIDS will believe they actally exist

which makes me think they wont make raph a dark character who nearly goes out and kills someone because this is for kids aswell as fans, so id gather it will be just raph having a quick temper and enjoying kicking butt

[warhorse78]

Yea i think that could be interesting. Instead of the cliche "Raph gets mad and runs away". They could maybe show Raph go a little too far, and deal with the ramifications of that.

Maybe not actually kill someone, but you know, go completely ape **** and brutalise them, make his brothers shocked, maybe even a little frightened.

They actually touched on his rage in the 2k3 toon. And it was ripped right out of the actual comics. There is a scene where he's sparring with Michelangelo, and he get's so ticked off, he goes into a rage and almost beats Mikey with a pipe. After Leo and Donny stop him, he realized what he was about to do, and go topside for a while to cool down. Of course, this is where he meets Casey Jones.

[Spider-Aziz]

Nothing adapted Raph considering Mikey his best friend
I want to see that at least in the upcoming film

[ShredderX]

Nothing adapted Raph considering Mikey his best friend
I want to see that at least in the upcoming film

Yeah in the original Mirage Comic, that was the case, and was stated in the RPG the only thing keeping Ralph from killing himself or the other turtles was his close friendship with Michealangelo, And also had a close bond with Casey Jones. This seemed to be switched in the 1990 movie, which portrays Don being close to both Mike and Casey , and Rapheal being a loner.

[Raphael]

1990 Raph was unique, because he was the only one voiced and did the stunt work by the same man. The other Turtles were voiced and acted by different individuals. Also, all of the stunt actors had brief cameos in the movie as well.

Am I the only one who freaked out that Raph in the live action movies were voiced by different actors? I thought Josh Pais did all three movies!


Josh only voiced and played Raph in TMNT 1. He did not do stunts, that was a martial arts guy. I don't know why Josh didn't return to the other movies it could be any reason, I can speculate that it was way too hard for him. The weight of the outfits would cause them to sweat gallons....

I love that the actor who did the voice of Raphael in the first film, Josh Pais, is the guy in the back of the cab. All these years later, I still get a chuckle out of that because you can definitely hear Raph in his voice when he says "What the heck was that?!" For me, it's always fun to watch Scream 3, because Josh Pais plays a detective in that movie and every line he utters, I feel like I'm listening to Raph.

Well, yeah...that is his voice. All the time. 24/7.....

For the record today Josh runs his own acting class and does small parts in movies.

[Paper Plate]

http://www.deadline.com/2013/03/hunger-games-2s-alan-ritchson-to-play-raphael-in-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/

[DarkSovereignty]

Eh, I liked him well enough as aquaman on smallville, not exactly who comes to mind for the role but its all about the voice in this case, so if he can get that down then it should be fine.

[TheAQU4M4N]

if you guys have seen BMS, he would actually be a perfect Mikey. I am actually pretty stoked for this.

[SpideyFan866]

if you guys have seen BMS, he would actually be a perfect Mikey. I am actually pretty stoked for this.

This.

Either way, I think this is a great choice. This is the first thing from this movie to make me excited.

[TheAQU4M4N]

watch we get Kyle Gallner as Mikey haha

[SpideyFan866]

watch we get Kyle Gallner as Mikey haha

and Tom Welling as Leo.

[ironman29758]

and Tom Welling as Leo.

Then who's Donatello? Justin Hartley?


Smallville Ninja Turtles. Quick someone make a manip/fan art!

[747]

Eh, I liked him well enough as aquaman on smallville, not exactly who comes to mind for the role but its all about the voice in this case, so if he can get that down then it should be fine.

It's mo-cap, so it's not 100% all about the voice.

[SpideyFan866]

It's mo-cap, so it's not 100% all about the voice.

Yeah. It's possible he might just be doing the mo cap, but he's likely doing both.

and if so, they are probably looking for actors who can do both parts.

[TheAQU4M4N]

Yeah. It's possible he might just be doing the mo cap, but he's likely doing both.

and if so, they are probably looking for actors who can do both parts.
well dude has the physique to pull off a ripped Turtle.

also since were talking smallville, why not Shawn Ashmore for Donatello.

and Phil Morris as Splinter lol

[terry78]

They ain't getting voice actors for these roles, they're getting actors who can do the action via mocap as well. Ritchson is a crazy dude, so I can see him working out. Honestly, Jason Biggs does good work as Leo, so I figure the rest of the cast will be just as unexpected.

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Thad Hamilton!!!

this guy is awesome in Blue Mountain State. i can definitely see him pulling off Raphael. he's got the right attitude for the part.

this casting choice actually pleases me. still not enough to get over Megan Fox as April though.

[louiebling$]

I'm actually ok with this..... I hope he brings a Rugged New York Accent though

[Lencho01]

I don't really see it. I guess it depends on how Raph will be in this.

[Sawyer]

Far better casting choice than Fox. :up:

[spidergeek232]

This a better step in the right direction. Deadline said its like Avatar's motion capture. When hear Alan's voice, I think of Leo, but I guess him as Raph is alright.

[AntMan]

This guy is hilarious in Blue Mountain State. I wonder if Raph will be less of a grumpy badass and more like the 80's cartoon version in this?

[louiebling$]

Well Raph is pretty funny in the new series and still retains his badasd/tough attitude

[Donut]

From Aquaman to Ninja Turtle

[AntMan]

Well Raph is pretty funny in the new series and still retains his badasd/tough attitude

True, perhaps it will be similar to that. I like Raph to be less lighthearted than the other turtles.

[the_ultimate_evil]

meh i dont know. with the whole motion capture thing i was hoping for actual stuntmen for the on set acting and pro voice actors

i honestly havent seen enough of this guys work to say other wise

[craigdbfan]

He's not a bad actor. In fact he's pretty solid and his voice is perfect for Ralph.

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[TheAQU4M4N]

there is definitely a glimmer of hope for this film with this casting choice.

[Cassandra Cain]

Listening to his voice, I think I can hear a good Raph in the works. I'm sure he can pull off a tough Brooklyn accent (if they're goin in that direction). Hell, if you hear Josh Pais without his voice manipulation, you would never think Raphael, but low and behold he did it perfectly (as both the voice AND the body in the suit). Still, I can't get over the fact of where they're taking this movie, and that Megan is April. :dry:

[spider-neil]

If it's just voices they are after they should have gone with the animated movie cast.

[terry78]

^They shouldn't sound like cartoon characters And they're doing the mocap action as well so not just vocals.

[ShredderX]

Listening to his voice, I think I can hear a good Raph in the works. I'm sure he can pull off a tough Brooklyn accent (if they're goin in that direction). Hell, if you hear Josh Pais without his voice manipulation, you would never think Raphael, but low and behold he did it perfectly (as both the voice AND the body in the suit). Still, I can't get over the fact of where they're taking this movie, and that Megan is April. :dry:

Josh was the perfect Ralph

[jacobed]

Josh only voiced and played Raph in TMNT 1. He did not do stunts, that was a martial arts guy. I don't know why Josh didn't return to the other movies it could be any reason, I can speculate that it was way too hard for him. The weight of the outfits would cause them to sweat gallons....



Well, yeah...that is his voice. All the time. 24/7.....

For the record today Josh runs his own acting class and does small parts in movies.

Listening to his voice, I think I can hear a good Raph in the works. I'm sure he can pull off a tough Brooklyn accent (if they're goin in that direction). Hell, if you hear Josh Pais without his voice manipulation, you would never think Raphael, but low and behold he did it perfectly (as both the voice AND the body in the suit). Still, I can't get over the fact of where they're taking this movie, and that Megan is April. :dry:

Besides a few rumors that every fan is taking for truth because they hate Michael bay even though he had nothing to do with this movie, the only thing known about this movie is that the turtles are full cg, Megan Fox is April and this dude is Raph

[SpideyFan866]

Listening to his voice, I think I can hear a good Raph in the works. I'm sure he can pull off a tough Brooklyn accent (if they're goin in that direction). Hell, if you hear Josh Pais without his voice manipulation, you would never think Raphael, but low and behold he did it perfectly (as both the voice AND the body in the suit). Still, I can't get over the fact of where they're taking this movie, and that Megan is April. :dry:

They never confirmed her for April nor said she was even the lead. Bay just said she was on board.

[Gamma Goliath]

Spidey fan is right, we still don't know who Megan is in this. Which means we could still get a good April.

[terry78]

Bay could very well be ****ing with us, which he is wont to do.

[TheAQU4M4N]

Spidey fan is right, we still don't know who Megan is in this. Which means we could still get a good April.
A female Shredder? lol I guess its confirmed since we just got the rest of the turtles casting.

[Lencho01]

Nah, she's playing Venus de Milo.

[spidergeek232]

Yeah it's possible she could be playing Shredder's daughter.

[Gamma Goliath]

The only thing I'm having a hard time understanding is, if she's April why wouldn't they just say so. Instead they just say she's on board...

[Lencho01]

Maybe they didn't feel it was really needed to say since the turtles usually only associate with one female character. Unlike the turtles themselves, where you'd really need to specify who was playing who.

[Cassandra Cain]

Nah, she's playing Venus de Milo.

:pal: True, the resemblance is uncanny.