View Full Version : The Look of the Turtles
This thread is self-explanatory. What do you want the Ninja Turtles to look like?
Octoberist
03-29-2012, 03:50 PM
No beaks, and don't make them grotesque looking.
Carnage27
03-29-2012, 03:51 PM
More turtle-like than their previous incarnations, personally. No beaks though.
I'm not really sure what to expect out of this. What bothers me is that they'll be CGI.
Carnage27
03-29-2012, 03:56 PM
What bothers me is that they'll be CGI.
Did you see Planet of the Apes?
I can't wait for a performance capture group of Turtles.
Octoberist
03-29-2012, 03:56 PM
If it's WETA or ILM, I'm not worried too much. If it's Sony Imageworks, then we should all get worried.
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 03:58 PM
CGI is definitely the way to go. You can do so much more now.
Blue Sugar
03-29-2012, 03:59 PM
I'm not really sure what to expect out of this. What bothers me is that they'll be CGI.
Have you seen Avatar, Return of the King and Rise of the Planet of the Apes?
:D
Octoberist
03-29-2012, 03:59 PM
I think we've gotten much better but you just need the right people, the right amount of time, and the right director.
The work on Planet of The Apes is amazing. I suppose I prefer the suits and animatronics like the first film, it feels more tangible. If they looked great back in the 80's I'm sure it would look even better now.
Octoberist
03-29-2012, 04:27 PM
I'm for animatronics as well, but let's face it: Only guys now like del Toro are willing to do it for some odd reason.
Imagine a Del Toro TMNT film.... Oh boy.
Octoberist
03-29-2012, 04:33 PM
drool
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 04:36 PM
The work on Planet of The Apes is amazing. I suppose I prefer the suits and animatronics like the first film, it feels more tangible. If they looked great back in the 80's I'm sure it would look even better now.
Could always give them a cameo, with people dressing up as turtles, a la the Dark Knight Batman copies.
Aztec
03-29-2012, 04:58 PM
I'd like to see something akin to this. An eastern/Japanese feel, with each turtle having his own look, and a more turtle like appearance.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sripA1xlgvk/TW576Mp0pqI/AAAAAAAAIYA/5lkJZgWp2z8/s1600/TMNT-redesign-fanart.jpg
Octoberist
03-29-2012, 05:00 PM
I kinda like it because it's not overdone. Who's the artist again?
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 05:02 PM
I'd like to see the turtles in different sizes myself. Anywhere from 5-7 feet.
DoomsdayApex
03-29-2012, 05:02 PM
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/124/c/7/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_by_nebezial.jpg
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs17/f/2007/204/4/8/Ninja_Turtles_by_Lu_Kutha.jpg
Octoberist
03-29-2012, 05:08 PM
I'd like to see the turtles in different sizes myself. Anywhere from 5-7 feet.
7 foot is too much, man. 4 to 5 is fine though.
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 05:11 PM
7 foot is too much, man. 4 to 5 is fine though.
4? That's tiny. Okay maybe 7 is a lot, but if you want a hulking turtle. It's really not that tall, if average height is around six feet.
Most times the turtles are between five and six feet. It gets kind of strange how they are all the exact height in the TV shows. They did that to save money and time though.
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 05:14 PM
I'd like to see something akin to this. An eastern/Japanese feel, with each turtle having his own look, and a more turtle like appearance.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sripA1xlgvk/TW576Mp0pqI/AAAAAAAAIYA/5lkJZgWp2z8/s1600/TMNT-redesign-fanart.jpg
I liked the idea of Leonardo speaking Japanese to Splinter (since they're closest). Or throw in a few Japanese words.
Octoberist
03-29-2012, 05:16 PM
I'm curious too see Leo with an American accent, with a slight Japanese undertone (without making it sound goofy). Kinda like...my friend who is Asian, first generation, but lived in a household where he spoke their tongue all of the time. Because of that, he was raised between both languages, which affect his native 'American' accent.
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 05:19 PM
I'm curious too see Leo with an American accent, with a Japanese undertones. Kinda like...my friend who is Asian, first generation, but lived in a household where he spoke their tongue all of the time. Because of that, he was raised between both languages, which affect his native 'American' accent.
If you really want to have fun, throw in some honorifics. Having Raphael sarcastically call Leonardo "Leo-sama". But only a few people would get the line.
Aztec
03-29-2012, 05:38 PM
I kinda like it because it's not overdone. Who's the artist again?
Manuel Augusto Dischinger Moura
He's Brazillian.
Mindreaper21
03-29-2012, 09:51 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/saul62/100_0092_2.jpg
This would be so bad-ass!
ShredderX
03-29-2012, 10:04 PM
4? That's tiny. Okay maybe 7 is a lot, but if you want a hulking turtle. It's really not that tall, if average height is around six feet.
Most times the turtles are between five and six feet. It gets kind of strange how they are all the exact height in the TV shows. They did that to save money and time though.
6 feet is still too tall. According to the RPG : TMNT and other strangness, the Mirage turtles were from 4'6 to 5ft, and the Archie Sourcebook measured the turtles to be 5'8.
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 10:05 PM
Truth be told, I would do away with the three fingers. In the original concept art, the turtles actually had normal (if clawed) hands.
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 10:08 PM
6 feet is still too tall. According to the RPG : TMNT and other strangness, the Mirage turtles were from 4'6 to 5ft, and the Archie Sourcebook measured the turtles to be 5'8.
Yes, but this is an opinion thread. A bit of height difference helps characterization. There's a lot of fan art out there of a hulking turtle (usually Raphael), and it's a pretty good look.
ShredderX
03-29-2012, 10:17 PM
Yeah, thats true. But I think a medium or smaller size would probably be more acurate. I think being too big and muscular would limit their stealth and skill as a ninja.
ShredderX
03-29-2012, 10:21 PM
I never really paid attention to the height difference. I did kinda notice they each had different skin tones, especially with the 80's action figures. Leo was a dark green, Ralph was light green, Mike was a jade green, and Don was brown.
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 10:32 PM
I assume they did that to appeal to kids. Certainly worked on me. Otherwise, they'd be too similar, and kids might not buy four of them. But you can notice that they are the exact same size. Apparently they did that so the parts could be interchangeable.
I think you could get away with 7 feet though. But not much more. And, then, this is the series that has Leatherhead sneaking around, and he's like ten feet tall (or bigger, depending on the medium).
So, I'd say, Michelangelo below average height, Donatello and Leonardo being average height (or slightly above for the latter) and Raphael being above average height. But that's just me. I have no idea what they will do. Hell, with these people, they might not even be turtles much longer.
ShredderX
03-29-2012, 10:39 PM
And since it's Micheal Bay, I'm assuming this would be Krang and his new body http://fav.me/d4eu22l
SpitCurl
03-29-2012, 11:36 PM
I'd actually rather Raph be the 2nd shortest or so, and Don be the tallest, with Leo next and then Raph and then Mike.
I always picture Raph to be the Wolverine of the group, so small and stocky, and Don to be the lanky brainy one.
Thundercrack85
03-29-2012, 11:38 PM
I'd actually rather Raph be the 2nd shortest or so, and Don be the tallest, with Leo next and then Raph and then Mike.
I always picture Raph to be the Wolverine of the group, so small and stocky, and Don to be the lanky brainy one.
I can kind of see that for Raphael. I wouldn't be opposed to that. Though I do like hulking turtle too.
ShredderX
03-29-2012, 11:52 PM
I'd actually rather Raph be the 2nd shortest or so, and Don be the tallest, with Leo next and then Raph and then Mike.
I always picture Raph to be the Wolverine of the group, so small and stocky, and Don to be the lanky brainy one.
Funny you say that Spitcurl, because in the Mirage Comics Ralph was 4'6, and Don was 5ft. Leo was 4'9, and Mike was 4'8.
Thundercrack85
03-30-2012, 12:00 AM
You sure about those heights? 4'6"? They'd get eaten by gators in the sewers.
ShredderX
03-30-2012, 12:13 AM
Yeah, that's whats on their complete profile in TMNT & Other Strangness RPG Source book. The turtles were really short in their early comic days. But they still could take down an 8ft Triceraton.
It also lists Splinter as being 5ft, April is 5'8, Casey, 6'1, Baxter 5'8, and Shredder 5'10.
Archie has all of the turtles as being 5'8, Shredder as 6ft, and Splinter as 4ft ( not really sure abouit splinter, I have to dig through the bins tobe sure. )
Lencho01
03-30-2012, 12:13 AM
I'd like to see something akin to this. An eastern/Japanese feel, with each turtle having his own look, and a more turtle like appearance.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sripA1xlgvk/TW576Mp0pqI/AAAAAAAAIYA/5lkJZgWp2z8/s1600/TMNT-redesign-fanart.jpg
Interesting designs.
http://cghub.com/images/view/89461/
http://cghub.com/files/Image/089001-090000/89461/313_large.jpg
http://cghub.com/images/view/83577/
http://cghub.com/files/Image/083001-084000/83577/288_large.jpg
http://cghub.com/images/view/83576/
http://cghub.com/files/Image/083001-084000/83576/956_large.jpg
Stringer
03-30-2012, 12:39 AM
I really like those distinct styles for the turtles. Maybe slightly overdone but I like the idea.
Gamma Goliath
03-30-2012, 01:32 AM
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/124/c/7/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_by_nebezial.jpg
this to the hundred thousand trillion, its absolutely perfect. they still look like classic tmnt, without looking goofy or cartoony.
looks like the raph design from 'fight the foot' took inspiration from this too.
obin_gam
03-30-2012, 01:42 AM
Interesting designs.
http://cghub.com/images/view/89461/
http://cghub.com/files/Image/089001-090000/89461/313_large.jpg
http://cghub.com/images/view/83577/
http://cghub.com/files/Image/083001-084000/83577/288_large.jpg
http://cghub.com/images/view/83576/
http://cghub.com/files/Image/083001-084000/83576/956_large.jpg
I love those designs! Really hope they go with something like that. Too bad Donnie isnt present in those pics though :(
jacobed
03-30-2012, 02:22 AM
The Mike one is a bit over done but Raph looks amazing.
Mindreaper21
03-30-2012, 02:23 AM
I'm starting to like designs in the bandanas. What do you think, plain or stylish?
Thundercrack85
03-30-2012, 02:24 AM
this to the hundred thousand trillion, its absolutely perfect. they still look like classic tmnt, without looking goofy or cartoony.
looks like the raph design from 'fight the foot' took inspiration from this too.
It's a nitpick, but I don't like that Leonardo's nostrils are covered.
TheWallCrawler
03-30-2012, 05:13 AM
I'd like to see something akin to this. An eastern/Japanese feel, with each turtle having his own look, and a more turtle like appearance.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sripA1xlgvk/TW576Mp0pqI/AAAAAAAAIYA/5lkJZgWp2z8/s1600/TMNT-redesign-fanart.jpg
I really like those, but Leonardo's necklace would have to go
The /
03-30-2012, 05:18 AM
I wouldn't really mind if there were little tweaks here and there that further differentiated the TMNT, but I don't want these tweaks to go overboard. I still want the characters and how they generally have always looked to still be recognizable. I understand this is a new interpretation and that new things can and should be tried, but I think there's a right way to do it and a totally wrong way to do it.
As a fan of the Turtles films from the '90s, I loved the live-action animatronic costumes, but I really think that CG may be the best way to go for this film. With everything that can be done with CGI these days and how realistic the TMNT can be made to look, I see no reason to go back and use a style that was already used twenty years ago. Would make it a lot easier to have some epic battles, too.
The Morningstar
03-30-2012, 05:28 AM
I really like those, but Leonardo's necklace would have to go
I like the neckless. It reminds me of a Buddhist monk type figure, something which i think suits Leo's personality.
Lencho01
03-30-2012, 10:40 AM
Just reposting this...
http://gloooscap.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2gldqg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/001/d/0/tmnt_by_gloooscap.jpg
After looking at that art by nebezial, I just realized that he had each of their elbow pads match the color of their mask. I think that would be a good idea to make them look a little bit different from what we usually see.
Manuel Augusto Dischinger Moura's designs are nice too. Though, I'd probably wouldn't want to see Mikey look that wild/random and Leo's necklace could be a little smaller so it doesn't cause any problems in battle. Anyway, clothing that reflecting their personalities/tastes would be cool.
Nathan
03-30-2012, 01:53 PM
Hopefully, they won't look too different from this.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9710/00013938.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/00013938.jpg/)
And I like the idea of giving each Turtle something different to wear. Throw in some Ninja gear, instead of just shoulder and knee pads. I like Leo in this artwork, just looks amazing. The rest not so much. I just want more emphasis on the Ninja part.
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/001/d/0/tmnt_by_gloooscap.jpg
And I absolutely love the design of Raphael in this picture.
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/706/tmntfeudalerabyjeftoon0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/tmntfeudalerabyjeftoon0.jpg/)
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8872/341341.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/341341.jpg/)
louiebling$
03-30-2012, 02:04 PM
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/124/c/7/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_by_nebezial.jpg
Still my favorite look :up:
Spider-Who?
03-30-2012, 02:14 PM
While back I sketched out Leo.
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/152/3/a/leonardo_sketch_by_fuzzydrawings-d3hs5rz.jpg
Personally, I think that the turtles in the first movie is the definitive look. I'm not really liking the deviations I'm seeing here. I understand that 20 years later, people want to see something new, but there's a fine line between doing something new for the sake of it, and doing something new to improve (thats not to say I'm trying to tute my own horn or anything. I was literally just mindlessly doodling when I made that image).
DaveMoral
03-31-2012, 09:31 AM
I really think they should stick with the Eastman and Laird original design. In fact, I mean really try to do something more akin to issue #1. Eschew the longer tails on the bandanas in favor of a smaller tie. And instead of the belt being more of a strap, make it tie like a martial arts belt. And instead of having Leo wear his scabbards in an X across his back have them both on the right. I prefer that look.
I don't mind identifiers for the Turtles, or personal flair.... but I'm not keen on some of the over designs I see here. Sure, give Raph a hoodie when he wants to walk the streets... but there's no need for that as his general look. And Leo could have a Buddhist rosary when he's hanging out at home but wearing that in combat would be senseless.
Spider-Aziz
03-31-2012, 11:26 AM
Hopefully, they won't look too different from this.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9710/00013938.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/00013938.jpg/)
Z-KhoSo9Xh0
Something like this would look pretty cool
Thundercrack85
03-31-2012, 02:37 PM
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/001/d/0/tmnt_by_gloooscap.jpg
Have to say that's a pretty good look for Leonardo, if they aged up the character. Look the pre-teen ninja turtles here.
Spider-Who?
03-31-2012, 03:33 PM
Which do you guys prefer: fully CGI, animatronic, or something in between?
I watched the original film this morning (it had been forever) and I was actually surprised at the glaring tells/mistakes in the turtles suits. In fact, the very first time we see them, the suits stop at the knees, even though the legs are clearly in the shot (keep your eye out as they jump into frame right after the title). This is something I would hope the improvent of animatronics would be able to avoid, but certain things I'd want to see would be impossible without CGI (exressive faces, muscle movement, etc). Then again, I wouldn't want to watch the movie knowing that the turtles are 100% digital. It kinda takes away the magic in a live action setting.
Thundercrack85
03-31-2012, 03:35 PM
Considering the budget (13 million) and how old it is (22 years ago), it actually looks pretty good.
After seeing a movie like the Planet of the Apes, I'd be content with CGI. If it's done well.
The combination of the suits and animatronics with CGI to correct any errors or enhance them would be perfect.
Spider-Who?
03-31-2012, 05:37 PM
Considering the budget (13 million) and how old it is (22 years ago), it actually looks pretty good.
After seeing a movie like the Planet of the Apes, I'd be content with CGI. If it's done well.
Oh, i'm not trying to say the suits look bad. I was just pointing out the limitations and errors that animatronics are heir to. While today's animatronics are vastly superior, they're still not going to be able to do certain things.
ryan dube
04-01-2012, 01:13 PM
http://mvick3d.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/leo_ingame.jpg
SpitCurl
04-01-2012, 02:09 PM
^ It's interesting, but again, maybe a bit too over-designed?
I'm definitely seeing a pattern with a lot of the fan art just being far too busy. If some of these concepts were put into action these would end up being the least effective ninjas ever, and would likely be a pain to animate (CG or otherwise). Great effort, though. Some very talented folks out there.
Nathan
04-01-2012, 07:11 PM
Over-designed and definitely too mean looking.
Mindreaper21
04-01-2012, 07:50 PM
There's too much blue. Like the 80's cartoon trying to be hardcore. The buttons are completely unnecessary as well. Other than that, it's pretty good.
Thundercrack85
04-01-2012, 07:57 PM
I don't dislike it. But the colors are a bit off. I actually like that it's a bit more fierce looking. Long as you don't lose the emotion in the face.
It's a mutated turtle wielding two swords. It should be a little intimidating.
I hope they make regular use of throwing stars in the movie. Those could be quite handy.
I don't see why the turtles can't have more "busy" designs. They're usually quite plain. Give them some individuality.
Nathan
04-01-2012, 08:02 PM
You can give them individuality without having them look "busy".
Octoberist
04-01-2012, 08:02 PM
you dont to make it busy looking for the sake of it.
SPIDER-MAN-ROX
04-01-2012, 08:15 PM
http://mvick3d.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/leo_ingame.jpg
Looks alot like Zombie Jason Voorhees in Friday The 13th part 7.
ShredderX
04-01-2012, 08:22 PM
I like it. It looks exactly like a realistic mutant turtle. Only thing, the tmnt were mutant pond/red ear sliders. This Leo looks like a mutated galapogos tortoise.
warhorse78
04-01-2012, 08:56 PM
I wouldn't mind using the look of the live action movies.
terry78
04-02-2012, 08:40 PM
No need to overcomplicate it. Just go with the most general design from the books, and leave it at that. Doubt they'll deviate too much from how they've looked in the movies, including the CG one. Considering the studios and people behind it, they're not gonna look butt ugly, they will have some semblance of cuteness to them, but still look like they can **** somebody up.
Spider-Who?
04-02-2012, 10:36 PM
http://mvick3d.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/leo_ingame.jpg
I actually really dig this. Get rid of all the unnecessary string, and a few minor details here and there, and I'd be 100% on board.
SpideyFan866
04-03-2012, 12:28 AM
http://watchmojo.com/film/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/tmnt-face.jpg
Thundercrack85
04-03-2012, 12:32 AM
http://watchmojo.com/film/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/tmnt-face.jpg
Respectfully, hell no.
Spider-Aziz
04-03-2012, 01:13 AM
http://watchmojo.com/film/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/tmnt-face.jpg
Looks like an 80s movie dinosaur
Octoberist
04-03-2012, 02:23 AM
I think it looks cool only as an art project, but I don't want to see that for two hours straight in a movie
obin_gam
04-03-2012, 02:55 AM
hahah o dear gods at that project! but I dont really hate it per say, wouldn't mind something similar in design for this film.
Project862006
04-03-2012, 04:51 AM
a mix of both because turtles are not apes lol
they are green flesh so think of the tharks in john carter while they were fine if you mix practical and cgi it will look great
TheWallCrawler
04-03-2012, 04:59 AM
While back I sketched out Leo.
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/152/3/a/leonardo_sketch_by_fuzzydrawings-d3hs5rz.jpg
Personally, I think that the turtles in the first movie is the definitive look. I'm not really liking the deviations I'm seeing here. I understand that 20 years later, people want to see something new, but there's a fine line between doing something new for the sake of it, and doing something new to improve (thats not to say I'm trying to tute my own horn or anything. I was literally just mindlessly doodling when I made that image).
Something close to this would be perfect imo. I have always prefered white eyes instead of the pupil ones, amd I don't want the overall design to be too busy
Bishop/Ch'rell
04-03-2012, 10:42 AM
I would like the turtles to look similar to the live action films, but without pupil.
Steyin
04-03-2012, 01:29 PM
I hope they aren't CGI.
terry78
04-03-2012, 02:18 PM
They will be more than likely. You kind of have to if you want them to perform crazy ninja ****.
Thundercrack85
04-03-2012, 02:29 PM
You can do a lot more with CGI. And I'll give this much to Michael Bay, the CGI is usually pretty good.
spider_rob
04-03-2012, 03:27 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/saul62/100_0092_2.jpg
This would be so bad-ass!
Maybe if they were making Elderly Mutant Ninja Turtles.
spider_rob
04-03-2012, 03:29 PM
Interesting designs.
http://cghub.com/images/view/89461/
http://cghub.com/files/Image/089001-090000/89461/313_large.jpg
http://cghub.com/images/view/83577/
http://cghub.com/files/Image/083001-084000/83577/288_large.jpg
http://cghub.com/images/view/83576/
http://cghub.com/files/Image/083001-084000/83576/956_large.jpg
These are a good starting point, IMO. I like how the artist infused stuff a teenager would wear with the more traditional ninja gear.
batlovescatDC
04-03-2012, 05:23 PM
As far as the design of the characters I think it should definitely be based on the design from the Mirage Comics. I love those looks.
As far as the coloring of the characters, I think they should go with a very dark green, and also dark colors for the headbands. And for the headbands, just to set it apart from previous incarnations and add some originality... I think it would be cool if they had some black just around the eyeholes. That would also make the eyes pop some more, visually.
As far as the CGI, I heard that they will be wearing turtle-body suits and only the faces will be CGI so they can have realistic facial expressions. This I have absolutely no problem with. Just as long as the bodies are made of some type of highend latex that have movement that is just as realistic, then I think it'll flow together very nicely.
terry78
04-03-2012, 06:56 PM
^They said they may be going with the Rise of the Planet of the Apes as a reference, meaning they may be full CG.
Nathan
04-03-2012, 07:27 PM
I think that would be a waste of money. You only need full CG for really crazy stunts. If they are just standing around talking, or even fight, it should be a mix of body suits and CG.
Thundercrack85
04-03-2012, 07:29 PM
I think that would be a waste of money. You only need full CG for really crazy stunts. If they are just standing around talking, or even fight, it should be a mix of body suits and CG.
I'd be okay with that. But I do hope they get a decent redesign either way.
Stringer
04-03-2012, 08:17 PM
I think that would be a waste of money. You only need full CG for really crazy stunts. If they are just standing around talking, or even fight, it should be a mix of body suits and CG.
With the way effects are today, a lot of directors can get a more honest and convincing performance with motion and facial capture than people wearing hot, uncomfortable suits.
Project862006
04-03-2012, 09:04 PM
^i also think those suits held back the fight scenes as well
Alien Anal
04-03-2012, 10:18 PM
I was discussing this with my housemate last night.
Do the ninja turtles mutate into humanoid turtle babies and then are taken under Splinters wing and trained?
Did Splinter mutate a long time before the turtles did and who raised him?
Their personalities and mannerisms must come from somewhere.
Thundercrack85
04-03-2012, 10:21 PM
I actually preferred what the original cartoon did, by merging Splinter and Yoshi into one character. It makes a lot more sense. Even if we accept mutation (suspension of disbelief), it still doesn't explain how Splinter became a martial arts master. Or how he and the turtles learned English, and other human traits.
ShredderX
04-03-2012, 10:50 PM
I actually preferred what the original cartoon did, by merging Splinter and Yoshi into one character. It makes a lot more sense. Even if we accept mutation (suspension of disbelief), it still doesn't explain how Splinter became a martial arts master. Or how he and the turtles learned English, and other human traits.
Some sources suggest that Splinter was already a mutant when he was a pet of Hamato Yoshi, because of his high intelligence, which unable him to learn martial arts, and understand human speech. The mutagen/ooze just increased his intelilgence further, as well as gave him a more humanoid form.
spider_rob
04-04-2012, 12:05 AM
Some sources suggest that Splinter was already a mutant when he was a pet of Hamato Yoshi, because of his high intelligence, which unable him to learn martial arts, and understand human speech. The mutagen/ooze just increased his intelilgence further, as well as gave him a more humanoid form.
That's asking me to suspend my disbelief too much.
I agree with the poster who said Yoshi turning into a rat makes more sense. I like how it's a reverse of what the turtles go through as well.
SpitCurl
04-04-2012, 12:06 AM
I like the explanation that the infected take on the properties of the last (multi-celled) organism they came into contact with*, so Yoshi touched a rat and mutated into one, and the turtles were touched by a human and became humanoid.
*I guess the logic here is that if you touch, say, a rat, you might end up with a rat hair or a few sloughed-off skin cells on your fingers, and those would contain the rat's DNA? And a the turtles might have a few sloughed-off skin cells from the human? It'd have to be a multi-cellular organism, I suppose, or else Yoshi and the turtles would just mutate into gut-bacteria...
Thundercrack85
04-04-2012, 12:12 AM
I say all stories can get away with one very strange thing. That would be the ooze. But then some logic needs to follow. Splinter, as a rat, before being exposed to the ooze, would have no idea what his master was doing. Even if he did, watching someone practice martial arts, does not make you a martial arts master. Or how he learned to speak human languages, among other things.
But there's also the more human connection. Yoshi being there would explain why the turtles didn't end up like feral sewer monsters.
hulk24
04-04-2012, 05:13 PM
http://watchmojo.com/film/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/tmnt-face.jpg
a friend of mine made this for a halloween costume it's funny how as soon as he put in on a few fx/prop building websites it went around as concept art for the tmmt movie lol. He made this and a shell and the costume for a halloween costume contest. This pic is the aanimatronic head version.
ShredderX
04-04-2012, 07:13 PM
I have to admit, the 87 toon 's Retromutagen ooze theory does make a lot more sense, but one thing always bugged me. The Ooze mutates the specimen into whatever the last creature it came into contact with. The turtles were last touched by Yoshi, so they took on the human traits, and Yoshi took on the traits of the rats, because thats what he was last in contact with. BUT ! Since Yoshi was cleary shown holding the turtles while he wiped off the mutagen, shouldn't he have mutated into a turtle, since the last creature he came into contact with was them ?
terry78
04-04-2012, 08:00 PM
They kind of say it's the last creature you had MOST contact with.
Oruku Saki
04-04-2012, 11:56 PM
These are a good starting point, IMO. I like how the artist infused stuff a teenager would wear with the more traditional ninja gear.
Best designs I have seen for a redesign. Old look is played out. I mean, you guys that want the original look do realize that they would all be wearing the same color bandana right and all look identical. IMO those redesigns really inject character into each turtle before they even speak onscreen. I just think there needs to be more than 4 naked turtles with a diff color bandana.
terry78
04-04-2012, 11:59 PM
What would Donnie be, a hipster?
Mindreaper21
04-05-2012, 12:01 AM
I have to admit, the 87 toon 's Retromutagen ooze theory does make a lot more sense, but one thing always bugged me. The Ooze mutates the specimen into whatever the last creature it came into contact with. The turtles were last touched by Yoshi, so they took on the human traits, and Yoshi took on the traits of the rats, because thats what he was last in contact with. BUT ! Since Yoshi was cleary shown holding the turtles while he wiped off the mutagen, shouldn't he have mutated into a turtle, since the last creature he came into contact with was them ?
No, the Turtles were last touched by the boy that bought them from the pet shop. Splinter found them crawling in the mutagen, so the Turtles had already started the mutation process. Splinter must have touched the mutagen before he touched the Turtles and began mutating.
Gamma Goliath
04-05-2012, 12:41 AM
I like the new origin the IDW comics gave them, I just finished vol. 1 half an hour ago. lol
the turtles definitely need scales this time around, it makes them look more durable as opposed to rubbery smooth skin. imo
Spider-Who?
04-05-2012, 01:35 PM
What would Donnie be, a hipster?
http://www.memeface.com/gtfo.png
Octoberist
04-05-2012, 03:31 PM
That's asking me to suspend my disbelief too much.
I agree with the poster who said Yoshi turning into a rat makes more sense. I like how it's a reverse of what the turtles go through as well.
Also it'll be a lot more personal for Yoshi's arc.
Project862006
04-05-2012, 05:13 PM
yeah a rat mastering his master's Martial arts was a bit ridiculous in original movie lol
spider_rob
04-05-2012, 05:35 PM
No, the Turtles were last touched by the boy that bought them from the pet shop. Splinter found them crawling in the mutagen, so the Turtles had already started the mutation process. Splinter must have touched the mutagen before he touched the Turtles and began mutating.
Was it last contacted with or had the most contact with? I thought he turned into a rat because he had been in contact with rats a long time before the turtles came.
spider_rob
04-05-2012, 05:36 PM
What would Donnie be, a hipster?
In the first movie he seemed more like the laid back stoner type than techno whiz.
Thundercrack85
04-05-2012, 05:37 PM
Yeah he did. I'd prefer him being something of a geek, myself. I say something, because the turtles shouldn't be stereotypes.
ShredderX
04-05-2012, 06:18 PM
No, the Turtles were last touched by the boy that bought them from the pet shop. Splinter found them crawling in the mutagen, so the Turtles had already started the mutation process. Splinter must have touched the mutagen before he touched the Turtles and began mutating.
Okay, I guess I can go with that logic, although the Fred Wolf toon had so many plot holes in their mutation theory, like how did LeatherHead mutate into a humanoid form when he swam through the orange mutagen in the original toon, although he never touched a human ( maybe different color mutagen have different effects like different color kryptonite ? ), and why Slash didn't mutate into half turtle/ half wart hog, since Bebop was the only one who touched him and had the most contact.
Octoberist
04-05-2012, 06:25 PM
In the first movie he seemed more like the laid back stoner type than techno whiz.
Donnie's characterization was very vague in the first film. I've said it before but there were hints of his intelligence or sensitivity here and there but it wasn't enough to really define his role in the film.
terry78
04-05-2012, 06:27 PM
He always had kind of an undercurrent of wit to him, basically he could stealth insult you without you even knowing it.
Octoberist
04-05-2012, 06:40 PM
He always had kind of an undercurrent of wit to him, basically he could stealth insult you without you even knowing it.
Yeah Donnie is almost an combination of the 80's cartoon Raph and Ferris Bueller.
Mikey would be Jeff Spicoli. Leo would be Emilio Estavez from The Breakfast Club, while Movie Raph would be Judge Nelson.
ShredderX
04-05-2012, 06:57 PM
Yeah Donnie is almost an combination of the 80's cartoon Raph and Ferris Bueller.
Mikey would be Jeff Spicoli. Leo would be Emilio Estavez from The Breakfast Club, while Movie Raph would be Judge Nelson.
LOL, you're absolutely right !!
Mindreaper21
04-06-2012, 05:36 AM
Was it last contacted with or had the most contact with? I thought he turned into a rat because he had been in contact with rats a long time before the turtles came.
Last contact. Splinter had been roaming through the sewer and came across sewer rats before he found the Turtles.
Mindreaper21
04-06-2012, 05:51 AM
Okay, I guess I can go with that logic, although the Fred Wolf toon had so many plot holes in their mutation theory, like how did LeatherHead mutate into a humanoid form when he swam through the orange mutagen in the original toon, although he never touched a human ( maybe different color mutagen have different effects like different color kryptonite ? ), and why Slash didn't mutate into half turtle/ half wart hog, since Bebop was the only one who touched him and had the most contact.
The only explanation I can think of for Leatherhead is that he had come into contact with a human a some point before the mutation. Or, like you suggested, the orange mutagen had a different effect. Slash's case is a weird one. I'm not sure that the mutagen can cross-breed animals (or at least I have never seen it happen), so Slash must have only taken the human form. Maybe the fact that Bebop is really human has something to do with it, but i'm not sure.
<(o_o)>
04-06-2012, 11:58 AM
Should the turtles have big pearly white teeth or should their teeth be covered in plaque, cavities & some tooth decay from having poor eating habits & poor dental hygiene over the years?
spider_rob
04-06-2012, 01:17 PM
Should the turtles have big pearly white teeth or should their teeth be covered in plaque, cavities & some tooth decay from having poor eating habits & poor dental hygiene over the years?
There's no reason Splinter didn't teach them good dental hygiene.
If they can afford/find TVs, weapons, and furniture, they can do the same for tooth brushes.
Blue Sugar
04-06-2012, 01:19 PM
Yeah I don't want the Turtles to be overly gross.
http://mvick3d.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/leo_ingame.jpg
I'd be on board with something like this. Just simplify the costume and change the shade of green.
Blue Sugar
04-06-2012, 02:44 PM
Keep it simple is my biggest suggestion to the look of the Turtles.
terry78
04-06-2012, 02:44 PM
That Mark Vick design is probably the best I've seen that would translate to live action so far.
PROLIFIK1
04-07-2012, 03:29 AM
Whoa! That Mark Vick designs just craps on all the hideous junk people have posted the past few months. I'm all for that design too! Still identifiable with the turtles most of us grew up and are familiar with. I love that raw look to it.
Oruku Saki
04-07-2012, 08:35 PM
I don't care what they look like as long as they bow to ME!
Spider-Aziz
04-08-2012, 12:43 AM
I don't care what they look likeSo you can accept Man-Thing lites?
as long as they bow to ME!:lightningeyes: I don't think so
spider_rob
04-08-2012, 05:56 PM
Here's a design I'm working on. Still early WIP. I incorporated all the things I liked from the other designs I've seen, and included a ideas of my own.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6070/leo001copy.jpg
Gamma Goliath
04-08-2012, 07:16 PM
really cool design.
Nathan
04-08-2012, 07:48 PM
Not a fan of the face and tail, otherwise badass. Love the armguard. And it's a great example of keeping it simple.
Gamma Goliath
04-08-2012, 10:27 PM
yeah the face is a little too human looking
Spider-Aziz
04-09-2012, 12:21 AM
Here's a design I'm working on. Still early WIP. I incorporated all the things I liked from the other designs I've seen, and included a ideas of my own.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6070/leo001copy.jpg
It's a nitpick, but:
ANTZ
Webfoot Hero
04-09-2012, 03:47 PM
It's a nitpick, but:
ANTZ
Same thing I was thinking after looking at the face for the first time. Body is fine, maybe make the tail a little less pronounced, but the face is what ruins it for me.
Pac-Master
04-09-2012, 04:56 PM
Hurm..... http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/04/09/is-this-what-the-ninja-turtles-look-like-now-and-is-kid-cudi-going-to-play-one-of-them/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool +Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29
Webfoot Hero
04-09-2012, 07:02 PM
Hurm..... http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/04/09/is-this-what-the-ninja-turtles-look-like-now-and-is-kid-cudi-going-to-play-one-of-them/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool +Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29
Kind of odd that he'd even be in contact with people associated with the movie. As for the drawing, I'm not sure it's even a serious contender for the look; more of a tongue-in-cheek version to kind of hit at the criticisms of Bay's alien statement.
Octoberist
04-09-2012, 07:25 PM
I think Cudi is probably up for the score then anything else. Let's say he's up for a role, I just can't see him being one of the turtles because it's too random.
Octoberist
04-10-2012, 12:46 AM
It's a nitpick, but:
ANTZ
Yeah, the combination of the nose and the lips aren't my cup of tea. Though the concept of the art piece is good.
Thundercrack85
04-10-2012, 01:08 AM
The turtles having prominent tails is an interesting way to go (here, they're still small).
In the original concept art, they had tails the length of their legs. Could use them in combat.
Gamma Goliath
04-10-2012, 09:27 AM
I don't want them to have long tails that will aid them in combat, but I'm cool with short tails.
Blue Sugar
04-10-2012, 11:11 AM
Here's a design I'm working on. Still early WIP. I incorporated all the things I liked from the other designs I've seen, and included a ideas of my own.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6070/leo001copy.jpg
Great art – but I'm personally not a fan of the look.
spider_rob
04-10-2012, 11:47 AM
I'm not happy with the face, either. Not what I originally envisioned in my head.
They did have tails in the original comic.
Pen Griffey Jr.
04-15-2012, 12:23 PM
I love these designs. digging the different styles and attention to detail. im gonna post a quick piece i was working on with the same approach i guess...
GreatPower95
04-15-2012, 03:24 PM
http://cdn.walyou.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/11/TMNT.jpg
I think this looks pretty cool but my favorite is this one
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ok-4qHZ7Ym4/TzwCxPc3VKI/AAAAAAAACT0/oqa7zndc13I/s1600/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_by_nebezial.jpg
Pen Griffey Jr.
04-15-2012, 07:32 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2jqh8UFfK1rrr49wo1_1280.jpg
Gamma Goliath
04-15-2012, 09:56 PM
not really a fan of this for the turtles. if they weren't turtles then it'd be cool.
Nathan
04-15-2012, 10:00 PM
I like the art. The outfits, not so much.
http://cdn.walyou.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/11/TMNT.jpg
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/mother-of-god-gif.gif
They need to have pupils, though. Not only do white eyes lack character, but they also give off an antagonistic vibe by default. Otherwise, I love the hell out of those designs.
Thundercrack85
04-16-2012, 02:18 AM
I still think some physical distinction would be a good idea. Size, coloring, etc. Just look at the new cartoon, without the headband, you can't tell them apart.
Pen Griffey Jr.
04-16-2012, 10:50 AM
more of a classic approach
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2kx8xAR2x1rrr49wo1_1280.jpg
Nathan
04-16-2012, 10:53 AM
Whoa, wait. Are you actually drawing these? If you, awesome art. Just a little too mean looking. Would be perfect for Slash though.
Pen Griffey Jr.
04-16-2012, 11:00 AM
another...
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2kxqyIQHh1rrr49wo1_500.jpg
Oruku Saki
04-17-2012, 01:14 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n5pAlR93JFc/T3_Mx-0-4oI/AAAAAAAAAK4/NjMZPK6oYiA/s912/TMNT.jpg
I'm still diggin this look...just wish they would get a Donatello so it would be complete. I like this cause it's more of like after they have all been training and doing their thing for a while versus just a reboot back to the beginning. I mean they are their own individuals right, so why would they all wear the exact same thing; that's just ridiculous. Only people that wear the same thing are people in organizations and if they are ninjas then why not full on ninja gear instead of naked with a bandana? IMHO it just works better to give them each a personality and a persona. Dammit where's that Donatello?!
BTW I sized these to where I think they would look good together; i like the idea that they aren't all the same size and of the 4 Raph fits the bigger size better to me. Donatello (if there ever is one) will prob be tall as Leo but skinnier.
GREEN =w= DAY
04-17-2012, 02:08 PM
http://cdn.walyou.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/11/TMNT.jpg
I think this looks pretty cool but my favorite is this one
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ok-4qHZ7Ym4/TzwCxPc3VKI/AAAAAAAACT0/oqa7zndc13I/s1600/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_by_nebezial.jpg
any of these 2 would be ideal
Blue Sugar
04-17-2012, 03:49 PM
They need to have pupils, though. Not only do white eyes lack character, but they also give off an antagonistic vibe by default.
But that's not comic-book accurate!! :cmad: :oldrazz:
Oruku Saki
04-18-2012, 12:03 AM
http://cdn.walyou.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/11/TMNT.jpg
What's weird about that pic is the scariest people on the poster are Splinter and Casey..."I" don't look that menacing in that pic cause I had my "smaller blades" helmet on and Bebop just looks like a deusche.
"Hey Bebop, you've failed me yet again you insolent fool!"
Cassandra Cain
04-27-2012, 03:19 PM
http://cdn.walyou.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/11/TMNT.jpg
I LOVE the look of April here. Perfect if that translated onto film. However, the look of everyone else looks really, well...creepy. Although the turtles are different and (to an extent) warlike beings they don't have to look as so. They look so scary! It's a great concept but I'm still a huge fan of their look in the original live action. And oh my God, is that Beebop? *shivers* :doh:
terry78
04-27-2012, 03:50 PM
While that art is well done, it's a little too uncanny valley. I doubt a kid, let alone an adult could have that on their bedroom wall at night and not get freaked out.
ShredderX
04-27-2012, 11:12 PM
I wonder why Rocksteady wasn't on the poster. He was the first TMNT Character I seen Raporza do, and he looked more realistic than Bebop, but he also looked like he had down-syndrome for some reason. His version of Wingnut & Screwloose and Baxter Stockman looked extra creepy.
You should also check out his " Masters of the Universe" portraits also. Great stuff.
The Guard
04-28-2012, 02:29 PM
Not a fan of the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Thuggles" look. Don't think the turtles need to be wearing a ton of clothing, it kind of detracts from the overall visual.
I think all of these designs are a bit off for one reason. I expect the turtles will probably be a bit skinnier, slimmer than past designs in NINJA TURTLES.
Pen Griffey Jr.
04-29-2012, 07:05 PM
Not a fan of naked turtles either. I've always found that to be crazy, especially now its just gonna look stupid. im a naked ninja, yeah right. clothing makes sense
Thundercrack85
04-29-2012, 07:09 PM
They're not naked, they're wearing shells.
That person
05-03-2012, 12:27 AM
Dammit where's that Donatello?!
He stayed behind to fix the TurtleVan.
TheWallCrawler
05-03-2012, 04:22 AM
One thing that I hope is that their eyes will NOT have pupils. It just screams original comics ninja turtles, and I really prefered the way they looked in the 2003 show, so yeah
Cassandra Cain
05-06-2012, 11:51 PM
One thing that I hope is that their eyes will NOT have pupils. It just screams original comics ninja turtles, and I really prefered the way they looked in the 2003 show, so yeah
I guess that would fit the whole alien aspect (*shivers*). But wouldn't it make them look kinda creepy? I can see how it works in a cartoon and in the comics (and makes them more threatening for their villains), but it doesn't seem to translate well on screen. For example:
http://acestream.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/AnimatedSeries1.jpg VS. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/jontvrdik/Picture1-5.jpg
Meh.
cryptic name
06-06-2012, 05:22 AM
Not a fan of naked turtles either. I've always found that to be crazy, especially now its just gonna look stupid. im a naked ninja, yeah right. clothing makes sense
This is that kind of "Batman shouldn't have a cape" type of logic. It may make sense in a strictly logical way but...just no. The turtles should not wear clothes.
Octoberist
06-07-2012, 03:23 PM
I think people are over thinking TMNT if they want clothes on them.
Lencho01
06-08-2012, 12:51 AM
I guess that would fit the whole alien aspect (*shivers*). But wouldn't it make them look kinda creepy? I can see how it works in a cartoon and in the comics (and makes them more threatening for their villains), but it doesn't seem to translate well on screen. For example:
http://acestream.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/AnimatedSeries1.jpg VS. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/jontvrdik/Picture1-5.jpg
Meh.
I'd be fine with it. They could do something like TMNT (or like TDK in the pic you posted) and reference it.
GreatPower95
06-09-2012, 10:47 AM
I guess that would fit the whole alien aspect (*shivers*). But wouldn't it make them look kinda creepy? I can see how it works in a cartoon and in the comics (and makes them more threatening for their villains), but it doesn't seem to translate well on screen. For example:
http://acestream.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/AnimatedSeries1.jpg VS. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/jontvrdik/Picture1-5.jpg
Meh.
I was going to reference to Batman's white eyes. I think they should make them like actual turtle's eyes to compromise. I personally wouldn't want their eyes to look too cartoony like in the old movies (even though i liked the puppet suits.) I just think it'd be cool if they went a bit darker in this film. I mean the fanbase is older and so is technology. They're MUTANT NINJAS i think that'd be cool dark. However, no clothes (or at least not too much) and still have teenage voices and some good comedy.
project13
06-16-2012, 11:29 AM
How about they all wear red bandanas (ala Mirage), only the turles be a different species so people can tell them apart:
Ralph- a snapper
Leo- a slider
Mike-a box tortoise
Don- a green sea turtle
That way, you don't have to had multi-colored bands to tell them apart.
awesome232
06-18-2012, 09:24 PM
But the different colors is one of the most iconic part of the turtles.
awesome232
06-18-2012, 09:31 PM
Okay so if they are from a planet of alien turtles, they should look sleek and humanoid.
Specifics:
Black eyes
Skinny, but still muscular
No scales
Swamp green or seaweed green
Frodo
07-17-2012, 02:36 PM
[QUOTE=GreatPower95;22957659]http://cdn.walyou.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/11/TMNT.jpg
I actually like all the looks here. The characters all have a bit of an edge to them which is a bit more like their early comics. I also like the fact that the turtles look intimadating and more warrior like than loveable looking. Shredder, Casey , and Be Bop also look alot scarier which is actually pretty cool imo. April looks pretty cute too. Overall , I'd be totally down with these designs for a rebooted Chris Nolan/ Marc Webb esqe type of take on the Ninja Turtles...minus the alien origin junk.
LuisTX85
07-17-2012, 09:18 PM
Awesome design indeed!
I don't like Rapozas turtle art- they look chubby and kind of cartoony.
I really love what this guy is doing. Very real and natural and maintains a teen vibe to the slender look of the body. Not cartoony, and looks like a turtle.
Add some weapons maybe some street clothes, and young Brooklyn voices, would be cool.
I know lots of people are to lazy to click on the link- but I couln't get the IMG link to work..
http://cghub.com/images/view/230944/
Gamma Goliath
07-28-2012, 03:34 AM
my goodness that's horrid. No thanks Ew.
Thundercrack85
07-28-2012, 04:15 AM
Well, I kind of like the shell having... colors, but that's about it.
ShredderX
07-28-2012, 05:41 PM
I don't like Rapozas turtle art- they look chubby and kind of cartoony.
I really love what this guy is doing. Very real and natural and maintains a teen vibe to the slender look of the body. Not cartoony, and looks like a turtle.
Add some weapons maybe some street clothes, and young Brooklyn voices, would be cool.
I know lots of people are to lazy to click on the link- but I couln't get the IMG link to work..
http://cghub.com/images/view/230944/
Hmmm, yeahhhhhh, I'm gonna have to say no.
Alpha Born
08-03-2012, 06:40 PM
I kinda like this concept. Except for the beaks. But if this design was done in a movie & the beaks were flexible & moved like lips then I wouldn't mind them.
http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1004/tmnt-epic-ninja-turtle-art-tmnt-demotivational-poster-1271220074.png
The Infernal
08-05-2012, 10:02 AM
I kinda like this concept. Except for the beaks. But if this design was done in a movie & the beaks were flexible & moved like lips then I wouldn't mind them.
http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1004/tmnt-epic-ninja-turtle-art-tmnt-demotivational-poster-1271220074.png
That is pretty cool. I wouldn't say no to something similar for a movie. Plus even though they're different colours of turtles, they still look like they could be the same species of turtle (which suits me because I would like to keep them as actual brothers).
B.A. Baracus
08-06-2012, 10:02 AM
Thats just horrible, The turtles need to be green and look like turtles, i dont see why we have to stray so far from the source material.
Alpha Born
08-09-2012, 01:36 PM
I like this design but he needs to be more muscular. He sould wear more items too.
http://www.everyeye.it/public/immagini/11122009/c_1260460453143.jpg
Alpha Born
08-09-2012, 04:15 PM
Thats just horrible, The turtles need to be green and look like turtles, i dont see why we have to stray so far from the source material.
They're green and they do look like turtles. You must've not seen many turtles.
B.A. Baracus
08-09-2012, 05:50 PM
Mikey and leo in that pic are far from green?
Alpha Born
08-11-2012, 09:30 AM
Mikey and leo in that pic are far from green?
They're all different shades of green. :whatever:
Pac-Master
08-11-2012, 12:01 PM
I don't like Rapozas turtle art- they look chubby and kind of cartoony.
I really love what this guy is doing. Very real and natural and maintains a teen vibe to the slender look of the body. Not cartoony, and looks like a turtle.
Add some weapons maybe some street clothes, and young Brooklyn voices, would be cool.
I know lots of people are to lazy to click on the link- but I couln't get the IMG link to work..
http://cghub.com/images/view/230944/:barf:
Chrisbarnes182
08-13-2012, 05:25 PM
I think ive found the new look for the turtles lol
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/12/tmntlive1.jpg
spidermanJLA!~
08-13-2012, 07:59 PM
This is the image that is said to be concept art for the new movie. Goodness, I hope not. Just did some digging. EDIT: Sorry, I just found out it is just some sculpture. It is still weird though.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JGgzOkYhIb0/S_Vav6L25_I/AAAAAAAAE9U/JjUn7oxzv60/s1600/more-tmnt-2011-prototypes.jpg
spidermanJLA!~
08-13-2012, 08:08 PM
Just make them have a more textured greenish look, add masks, and a little more variety and this would be awesome.
http://www.zoom-comics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Real-TMNT.jpg
Gamma Goliath
08-13-2012, 09:25 PM
This is the image that is said to be concept art for the new movie. Goodness, I hope not. Just did some digging. EDIT: Sorry, I just found out it is just some sculpture. It is still weird though.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JGgzOkYhIb0/S_Vav6L25_I/AAAAAAAAE9U/JjUn7oxzv60/s1600/more-tmnt-2011-prototypes.jpg
I don't believe its concept art, its been around for a while now.
spidermanJLA!~
08-13-2012, 09:38 PM
I hate the vulture look to it.
pr0xyt0xin
08-14-2012, 12:55 AM
I like this design but he needs to be more muscular. He sould wear more items too.
http://www.everyeye.it/public/immagini/11122009/c_1260460453143.jpg
100% agree.
The Infernal
08-15-2012, 01:57 PM
:barf:
I agree. Too ugly. Same with the more 'realistic' pics on the previous page. Those are at least good pieces of art, but the turtles look too monstrous.
spidermanJLA!~
08-15-2012, 02:07 PM
I don't like Rapozas turtle art- they look chubby and kind of cartoony.
I really love what this guy is doing. Very real and natural and maintains a teen vibe to the slender look of the body. Not cartoony, and looks like a turtle.
Add some weapons maybe some street clothes, and young Brooklyn voices, would be cool.
I know lots of people are to lazy to click on the link- but I couln't get the IMG link to work..
http://cghub.com/images/view/230944/
The picture that comes up is hideous and is absolutely NOT green. This just proves that super ultra realistic does not equal awesome. Now the Mirage picture next to it is cool, however.
spidermanJLA!~
08-15-2012, 02:15 PM
http://www.dawnoftheninja.com/Fan/view/40/Fernando%20Lucas%20Leonardo%20Stylistic.jpg VERY different, but somehow, oddly cool.
Alpha Born
08-17-2012, 12:40 AM
Just make them have a more textured greenish look, add masks, and a little more variety and this would be awesome.
http://www.zoom-comics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Real-TMNT.jpg
Where did you get this picture?
I like the look but I'm not really diggin the faces. And their complexions should be darker.
spidermanJLA!~
08-17-2012, 09:40 AM
I was just searching around Google for pictures.
Ash J. Williams
08-21-2012, 12:15 AM
Well, I guess Michael Zulli's look is out of the question since his Turtles had beaks, which I didn't mind. On the other hand, I do like the clean style of Jim Lawson's '90s Turtles as well as Rick Veitch's gritty style, so maybe something between the two would work.
Thundercrack85
08-21-2012, 12:36 AM
I have to say, this overall design still seems the best to me.
http://geekmodeonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/TMNT_serious.jpg
Note the faces. They can clearly express emotion.
I'm not saying exactly like that, but somewhere in that area.
warhorse78
08-25-2012, 02:16 PM
Eh, I'm not digging any of these designs you people keep throwing around. Why not just stick with the traditional look that has worked for the past nearly 30 years? I say, use the 1990 suits, and just expand on them in CGI format. Making them ugly and monstrous is not the way to go, great way to destroy any box office this could make.
terry78
08-25-2012, 02:33 PM
Yeah, they are trying to sell toys here, ironic that may be. The new Nickelodeon cartoon almost makes them too cute, but I get why.
Alpha Born
08-25-2012, 09:35 PM
Eh, I'm not digging any of these designs you people keep throwing around. Why not just stick with the traditional look that has worked for the past nearly 30 years? I say, use the 1990 suits, and just expand on them in CGI format. Making them ugly and monstrous is not the way to go, great way to destroy any box office this could make.
Those old designs wouldn't work anymore. They look too goofy now.
Lencho01
08-26-2012, 01:50 PM
http://arte-animada.deviantart.com/gallery/
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/089/6/9/ninja_master_by_arte_animada-d4uh7hp.jpg
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/171/b/f/don_by_arte_animada-d5425u6.jpg
terry78
08-26-2012, 02:02 PM
^That's probably the happiest medium I've seen. They look hardcore, but not so creepy that kids would be put off.
Chrisbarnes182
08-26-2012, 04:39 PM
http://arte-animada.deviantart.com/gallery/
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/089/6/9/ninja_master_by_arte_animada-d4uh7hp.jpg
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/171/b/f/don_by_arte_animada-d5425u6.jpg
I like this the best
Cassandra Cain
08-26-2012, 04:53 PM
I'm sorry, I still think most of these concepts are making the turtles look way too creepy. I agree: stick to the source!
http://dyn3.media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/diamond/STK403/STK403865.jpg.size-300_square-true.jpg
Lencho01
08-26-2012, 07:15 PM
Just to clarify, the Leonardo art was based on this...
http://davidrapozaart.deviantart.com/gallery/
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/153/e/6/leonardo_by_davidrapozaart-d3hw549.jpg
spidermanJLA!~
08-27-2012, 09:06 PM
It's cool, but it's a little thick. I think the Turtles should be a little thinner this time around.
spidergeek232
08-28-2012, 12:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UChPnGelm8&feature=related
pretty cool design. Would use for the film.
Gamma Goliath
08-28-2012, 01:06 PM
Something along those lines wouldn't be bad. I'd change the skin green, and possibly alter the face just a tad. And fix the hands other than that its pretty good. Better than some of the other redesigns floating around.
spidergeek232
08-28-2012, 03:03 PM
Something along those lines wouldn't be bad. I'd change the skin green, and possibly alter the face just a tad. And fix the hands other than that its pretty good. Better than some of the other redesigns floating around.
Yeah I think the green on their looks a little too brown and the hands are kinda big lol. And the face kind of looks like a skull, but I guess he's trying to make Raph look like a real turtle. I would prefer the sleek, yet muscular look over anything.
terry78
08-28-2012, 03:09 PM
They look a little too thin for my taste. They don't have to be bulky, but the size Donatello is in that above image works.
terry78
08-29-2012, 11:25 AM
We don't need beaks and all that. They're humanoid turtles, they take on human characteristics, hence the full mouth of teeth and the more human like eyes, etc.
spidermanJLA!~
08-29-2012, 11:31 AM
I don't like beaks because it makes them look too vulture-like.
spidergeek232
08-29-2012, 06:53 PM
Here's another design that I think fits the physic of each turtle. P.S. I would make Donatello a bit bigger than what he is and keep him tall. And of course make them look more bad ass, not this childish.
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/193/a/8/TMNT_Sketch_by_LuigiL.jpg
I'd like the turtles to be 4.5-5 feet tall.
spidermanJLA!~
08-30-2012, 06:31 PM
I see what you mean, and the whole snapper-turtle thing is different, I guess.
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/jabaya/tmnt-soulswinter.jpg
spidergeek232
08-30-2012, 06:59 PM
I see what you mean, and the whole snapper-turtle thing is different, I guess.
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/jabaya/tmnt-soulswinter.jpg
I saw another TMNT comic cover by the same artist. LOL they kinda look like vulture's from the front.
I'm not sure about having a beak. I know it's more realistic, but it might look a little weird.
spidergeek232
08-30-2012, 07:14 PM
Holy crap!!!! Just found these designs for Shredder and Kraang and they are fantastic!!!!
http://bytesizegeek.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/shredder_krang_by_nebezial.jpg
spidergeek232
08-30-2012, 07:17 PM
Or this Shredder design, if you wanna go the way of the Mirage comics and have him more like an assassin.
http://dawnoftheninjaturtles.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/theshredder.jpg
spidermanJLA!~
08-30-2012, 08:09 PM
Now that's not bad.
spidergeek232
08-30-2012, 08:50 PM
Now that's not bad.
Which design do you like the best?
spidermanJLA!~
08-30-2012, 09:19 PM
I like the bottom one for sure. Shredder has always been portrayed as "the guy in the shadows" and the "big man", a more assassin look better fits him. Or maybe he should be the big boss, but the Foot do his bidding, while he does his own work.(fighting the turtles and Splinter) Plus the first one looks too Magneto-ish.
spidermanJLA!~
08-31-2012, 11:02 PM
http://www.xtremedesignfx.com/newwebsiteimages/turtle.jpg
sithgoblin
09-01-2012, 07:45 AM
I always liked these designs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/sithgoblin/leo4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/sithgoblin/doncoat.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/sithgoblin/w3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/sithgoblin/w7.jpg
terry78
09-01-2012, 09:24 AM
That's pretty good concept art to go by.
SpiderBat
09-02-2012, 01:23 PM
I'd take a good look at an actual turtle and work from there. Base them on the classic cartoon though.
spidergeek232
09-02-2012, 06:29 PM
If they do use beaks like an actual turtle, dont make it like a birds. It make them look like a turtle and a bird had kids lol.
But yeah, like how they made the Lizard, have them have turtle skin, not just green and smooth.
BATS N' HORNETS
09-09-2012, 01:07 PM
most of these are okay, but the closer the look to the source material the better.
MrGreen
09-12-2012, 04:20 PM
Just use the cartoon designs with some reptile skin
BATS N' HORNETS
09-12-2012, 06:49 PM
Just use the cartoon designs with some reptile skin
they have to be careful so the turtles don't look too scaley
Lencho01
09-13-2012, 07:48 PM
http://msekowski.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/ninja-turtles.html
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Leonardo1.jpg
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Raphael1.jpg
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Donatello1.jpg
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Michelangelo.jpg
Gamma Goliath
09-13-2012, 08:03 PM
While those are cool and Well designed, It's not quite the direction the movie should go IMO.
terry78
09-13-2012, 08:42 PM
That would basically be saying "here, just fire all of us at Platinum Dunes now."
BATS N' HORNETS
09-14-2012, 08:26 AM
http://msekowski.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/ninja-turtles.html
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Leonardo1.jpg
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Raphael1.jpg
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Donatello1.jpg
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Michelangelo.jpg
i like the designs a lot actually but the turtle heads need to be less turtle-ish, if that makes since. The heads should be closer to the 2003 Turtles cartoon IMO.
spidermanJLA!~
09-14-2012, 02:43 PM
Yeah the last thing we need is realistic talking giant turtles walking on screen.
BATS N' HORNETS
09-14-2012, 03:18 PM
Yeah the last thing we need is realistic talking giant turtles walking on screen.
they need to resemble what they have resembled for nearly 30 years. They don't need to have beaks
spidermanJLA!~
09-14-2012, 03:54 PM
they need to resemble what they have resembled for nearly 30 years. They don't need to have beaks
Yeah, they shouldn't take "Turtle" or "Mutant" too literally.
SpideyFan866
09-15-2012, 05:27 AM
With the exception of the front/chest portion of the shell, I LOOOOOVE this design.
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I hope we get something similar to this. I really think practical suits, with some CGI enhancement, could work better than full on CGI.
SpideyFan866
09-15-2012, 05:28 AM
BTW it'sa sad though that a short like that could be better than anything in the entire Ninja Turtles script.
spidermanJLA!~
09-15-2012, 09:02 AM
It's not bad, but have seen this? I've posted it back in the Spidey thread. The reason I post it is because I think they could do cgi enhanced animatronics while still looking cool. That video is cool, but like you said, the shell is wrong. It should be a shell, not a vest. I hate it when artists design the shell like a vest.
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ShredderX
09-15-2012, 12:51 PM
BTW it'sa sad though that a short like that could be better than anything in the entire Ninja Turtles script.
LOL, I agree. The Fan-made Casey Jones movie was also better than the Ninja Turtles Script.
BATS N' HORNETS
09-15-2012, 03:32 PM
have any of you read the Turtles script to judge how bad it was. If so, where can I find it?
SpideyFan866
09-16-2012, 06:08 AM
have any of you read the Turtles script to judge how bad it was. If so, where can I find it?
Yes. Most of us have. I'm not sure where to find it though. Paramount took down all the links I had.
But just so you know, it was bad. I mean about as bad as, if not worse, than Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.
I think they should try making them all have the red bandanna much like the comic books, just to spice things up a little bit and not look like the last films.
On the subject of the script. I have a feeling it's terrible. They always seem to half ass or rather half shell these kind of movie franchises.
Blackman
09-16-2012, 07:16 AM
I think them all having all red masks for part of the film would be nice/a cool nod to the original stuff
BATS N' HORNETS
09-16-2012, 10:39 AM
Yes. Most of us have. I'm not sure where to find it though. Paramount took down all the links I had.
But just so you know, it was bad. I mean about as bad as, if not worse, than Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.
I'll take your word for it, but I never have ever paid attention to Transformers in any incarnation and don't know anything about those movies so I can't compare the two. Thankfully, they seem to be redoing or revamping the script!
spidermanJLA!~
09-16-2012, 10:46 AM
http://www.crydev.net/uploads/mediapool/1114Tmnt/tmnt3.jpg
BATS N' HORNETS
09-16-2012, 11:21 AM
That's interesting
Gamma Goliath
09-16-2012, 02:13 PM
http://trampt.com/images/products/000/011/155/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles-Rhys_Cooper-Screenprint-trampt-11155o.jpg?1311625966
GREEN =w= DAY
09-17-2012, 03:55 AM
not really feeling any of those new designs/concepts
i'd rather just have them look like they did in the original TMNT movie, just give them an update look
AcidMage
09-23-2012, 04:45 AM
not really feeling any of those new designs/concepts
i'd rather just have them look like they did in the original TMNT movie, just give them an update look
Agreed. A lot of these redesigns take themselves too seriously. Honestly, it is TMNT. It is supposed to be fun and silly and zany, it doesn't need a "gritty reboot", that's missing the point of both the cartoons/live action movies and the original comics.
ShredderX
09-23-2012, 02:27 PM
Agreed. A lot of these redesigns take themselves too seriously. Honestly, it is TMNT. It is supposed to be fun and silly and zany, it doesn't need a "gritty reboot", that's missing the point of both the cartoons/live action movies and the original comics.
I take it , you haven't read the original comic books ? Four mutated turtles being raised by a mutant rat to avenge the death of his master against a Clan of evil ninjas led by a psycho in a bladed suit sounds pretty gritty to me.
BATS N' HORNETS
09-23-2012, 03:04 PM
i take it , you haven't read the original comic books ? Four mutated turtles being raised by a mutant rat to avenge the death of his master against a clan of evil ninjas led by a psycho in a bladed suit sounds pretty gritty to me.
amen!
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