White House Down

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118052084

In what amounts to the biggest spec deal of the year, Sony Pictures has closed a $3 million deal to acquire "White House Down," an action spec from "Amazing Spider-Man" scribe James Vanderbilt that has had studios buzzing this week.

Heated bidding came down to Sony and Paramount.

"White House Down," which is described as "Die Hard" meets "Air Force One," will mark the second time this month an action spec set at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. has sold for impressive coin, following Millennium Films' acquisition of Creighton Rothenberger and Katrin Benedikt's "Olympus Has Fallen," which quickly attached Gerard Butler to star.

It's no surprise that Sony would outbid the competition for a spec from Vanderbilt, who has become one of the studio's go-to scribes. Not only did he write Sony's "Amazing Spider-Man" and "Total Recall" reboots and work on its "Red Riding" adaptation, but he has already been hired to write a treatment for an "Amazing Spider-Man" sequel.

I like the potential here. :D

[Thundercrack85]

You can sell a script for 3 million dollars?

[Octoberist]

Is it that good, or did you think Hollywood execs (God forbid) are jumping the gun thinking this could be the next big thing?

[kvz5]

I swear I already heard of a movie in development like this before.

[Hunter Rider]

I swear I already heard of a movie in development like this before.

The 28th Amendment? The actual premise I think is going to be closer to the book 'Transfer of Power (http://www.amazon.com/Transfer-Power-Vince-Flynn/dp/0671023209)'.

[tzarinna]

Maybe it will help with the 24 withdrawal I'm still suffering through.

[kvz5]

The 28th Amendment? The actual premise I think is going to be closer to the book 'Transfer of Power (http://www.amazon.com/Transfer-Power-Vince-Flynn/dp/0671023209)'.

Yes, I think that's the one!

[Wolfwood]

Wasn't there a rumored sequel to Air Force One where the White House was taken over?

[Ultimatehero]

The 28th Amendment would have been bad ass! I read the script and it was amazing... for those wondering, don't think that script leaked.

[DoomsdayApex]

The 28th Amendment would have been bad ass! I read the script and it was amazing... for those wondering, don't think that script leaked.

What was it about?

[Ultimatehero]

I read it two years ago lol. But it was mainly about like a secret organization and the president being used as a puppet. I think. All I remember is that it was one of the most interesting scripts that I read. Really conspiracy founded, I remember that for sure.

[DoomsdayApex]

I read it two years ago lol. But it was mainly about like a secret organization and the president being used as a puppet. I think. All I remember is that it was one of the most interesting scripts that I read. Really conspiracy founded, I remember that for sure.

Damn, that sounds incredibly cool. Hopefully it'll see the light day in the near future.

[Ultimatehero]

I'm over at one of the top five film film studios. I'm unsure why they wanted me to do coverage for it. But it's been passed around studios for years now. Chances are if one of these white house films do well, it may be resurrected.

[DoomsdayApex]

I'm over at one of the top five film film studios. I'm unsure why they wanted me to do coverage for it. But it's been passed around studios for years now. Chances are if one of these white house films do well, it may be resurrected.

I hope so! :woot:

What is your current job title over there?

[Ultimatehero]

I used to be an intern. Now I'm a screenwriter with the vice president as my mentor. He wanted to buy one of the sample scripts I wrote a couple years ago on a toy/cartoon property but couldn't due to something similar already being in the works. I didn't expect it to get that far, just a pat on the back really. Now he's interested in three of my scripts. He's always on top of me for updates lol. It's cool, especially since I've only just turned 24 - industry wise I'm still really young. So, I'd say master / apprentice? Lol. It's odd but that's kind of what it is.

[DoomsdayApex]

I used to be an intern. Now I'm a screenwriter with the vice president as my mentor. He wanted to buy one of the sample scripts I wrote a couple years ago on a toy/cartoon property but couldn't due to something similar already being in the works. I didn't expect it to get that far, just a pat on the back really. Now he's interested in three of my scripts. He's always on top of me for updates lol. It's cool, especially since I've only just turned 24 - industry wise I'm still really young. So, I'd say master / apprentice? Lol. It's odd but that's kind of what it is.

That's outstanding man. :up:

I'm 24 and I got nothing going on now after my company and funding for my invention folded. It's always great to hear when people our age find success or a career this early in life.

Keep up the good work.

[DACrowe]

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118052084



I like the potential here. :D

Wasn't "Air Force One" already Die Hard? Just in a plane and starring Jack Ryan....err Jim something (I actually remember people thought it was a sequel to Patriot Games and the other Jack Ryan movies when it came out) as president?

So it's Air Force One in the White House? Meh. It'll probably be cheesy and silly but make a lot of money with a title like that.

[Ultimatehero]

Thanks man, but I think at our age everything is split down the line. I'm a work-a-holic, always have been, and need to work on the personal side of my life since that got sacrificed in the process. A lot of 24 year olds, in that area of life, are further ahead than I am. Basically saying, I think our 20s is the time where everyone plays catch-up. Hope the next invention goes over with smooth sailing.

[Project862006]

well that potential is gone LOL

Roland Emmerich in Talks to Helm $3 Million Sony Spec ‘White House Down’ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/04/roland-emmerich-in-talks-to-helm-3-million-sony-spec-white-house-down/)

EXCLUSIVE: Roland Emmerich is in talks to next direct White House Down, the James Vanderbilt-scripted action drama that Sony Pictures paid $3 million to purchase (http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/sony-spec-deal-for-white-house-down-worth-3-million/) as a spec script last week. The film focuses on a paramilitary takeover of the White House and was compared to Die Hard when it fetched the highest sum for a spec script so far this year for Vanderbilt, who scripted The Amazing Spider-Man for Sony and is working on the sequel to the Marc Webb-scripted 3D film that stars Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. Emmerich and his producing partner Harald Kloser will join Mythology Entertainment partners Bradley Fischer, Vanderbilt, and Laeta Kalogridis to produce the film. It will be his next project as director, and production is slated to begin in the fall. Emmerich will follow White House Down with Singularity, which remains a priority project at Columbia Pictures. Kloser is also a producer of Singularity. Vanderbilt’s script work includes Zodiac, he’s adapting Red Riding for Steve Zaillian’s Film Rites and Ridley Scott, and is doing a production rewrite on Robocop. Emmerich is repped by CAA.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=90216

Channing Tatum is in talks to lead Roland Emmerich's White House Down (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=88691), Deadline reports.

The film, written by James Vanderbilt (The Amazing Spider-Man (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=46192)) is set up at Sony Pictures and is said to feature a para-military takeover of the White House.

Tatum has already had a prolific year, starring in The Vow, 21 Jump Street and Haywire with roles in Magic Mike (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=77002) and G.I. Joe: Retaliation (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=62336) still to come.

Mythology Entertainment partners Bradley Fischer, Vanderbilt and Laeta Kalogridis will produce White House Down (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=88691), planning for a release on November 1, 2013.

[Sawyer]

There goes the likelihood of this being enjoyable. :o

[Hunter Rider]

There goes the likelihood of this being enjoyable. :o

That went with Emmerich.

[Project862006]

would of thought the director was the likelihood of this being enjoyable lol

[dude love]

Here's hoping Gerard Butler and Antoine Fuqua get off their asses and make their White House film happen first.

[Sawyer]

Oh, Emmerich is behind this? Had no idea.... I blacked out after reading the words Channing and Tatum. That's like a double-whammy of misery surrounding this film.

[Pink Ranger]

I read it two years ago lol. But it was mainly about like a secret organization and the president being used as a puppet. I think. All I remember is that it was one of the most interesting scripts that I read. Really conspiracy founded, I remember that for sure.

Sounds like a documentary about Goldman Sachs.

[Hunter Rider]

Jamie Foxx Elected to White House Down (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=91089)

[THANOSRULES]

Ugh..not a fan

[DACrowe]

This title sounds like a season of 24 from a few years ago.

[protocida]

Maggie Gyllenhall is in negotiations for the lead female role.

[Nightmare]

Roland Emmerich? Ugh..

[Hunter Rider]

Sony Moves Up Emmerich's White House Down to Summer 2013 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=93328)

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=95181

Rachelle Lefevre Joins White House Down and Homefront

Source: Heat Vision (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/twilight-rachel-lefevre-white-house-down-homefront-373640)
September 25, 2012


http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/rachellewhitehousedown.jpgHeat Vision is reporting that Twilight star Rachelle Lefevre has joined both Roland Emmerich's White House Down (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=88691) and Gary Fleder's Homefront (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=93164) in supporting roles.

In White House Down (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=88691), Lefevre will play the ex-wife of Channing Tatum, a Secret Service agent forced to save the White House. The film is shooting in Montreal and also stars Jamie Foxx, Maggie Gyllenhaal, James Woods, Richard Jenkins and Joey King. It is scheduled to hit theaters on June 28, 2013.

[Ultimatehero]

Jamiee Foxx is an amazing choice for this. Great actor too. I had pictured Denzel actually from the script. But, Jamiee is awesome too. Really happy to see this getting off the ground and Emerich seems like the right director for it too.

[Project862006]

First Look From EW

http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img5/whitehousedown-firstlook1-full.jpg
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http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img5/whitehousedown-firstlook5-full.jpg
http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img5/whitehousedown-firstlook7-full.jpg

[Figs]

I don't like the cast but for some reason I'm still interested in this.

[TheVileOne]

Channing Tatum in this type of role is not going to work. He's not a good action hero lead. Keep him in his dancing flicks and romantic comedies.

[-JKR-]

Do you live in 2002 TheVileOne? You have quite a bit of catching up to do on Channing Tatum.

[Hunter Rider]

The concept of Die Hard in the White House is allowing me to attempt to overlook the director and hope Tatum is less wooden than he was in G.I. Joe, his supporting cast is certainly good.

[Destructus86]

Harrison Ford for president!

"Get off my lawn!!" *BAM!!*

[TheVileOne]

Do you live in 2002 TheVileOne? You have quite a bit of catching up to do on Channing Tatum.

No I don't. I know he's had several hits but that doesn't make him a believable action star. They tried that with GI JOE and it failed. They basically wrote him out of the sequel until his recent string of hits. The director and producer talked about how at first they were going in a completely new direction with GI JOE 2, Rock is the star now, blah blah blah.

What has Channing Tatum magically becomes this hardcore gritty actor and awesome action hero? No he hasn't. He was a terrible Duke.

And the director is Roland Emmerich . . . Godzilla 1998.

[culver3vlr22]

No I don't. I know he's had several hits but that doesn't make him a believable action star. They tried that with GI JOE and it failed. They basically wrote him out of the sequel until his recent string of hits. The director and producer talked about how at first they were going in a completely new direction with GI JOE 2, Rock is the star now, blah blah blah.

What has Channing Tatum magically becomes this hardcore gritty actor and awesome action hero? No he hasn't. He was a terrible Duke.

And the director is Roland Emmerich . . . Godzilla 1998.

But Channing tatum is so funny in 21 Jump Street. So who knows I always felt just like you did until I seen 21 Jump Street. So ill give him a 2nd chance as an action star. The man as some talent...

[TheVileOne]

In your opinion. I didn't think he was that funny. I could hardly understand what he was saying most of the movie since he was so low key and mumbling most of his lines.

The movie doesn't make me believe he can channel Bruce Willis.

Studios tried to make Taylor Lautner the teenage Jason Bourne with Abduction. He was a huge hit with the Twilight crowd. Didn't work there either.

[TheVileOne]

edit.

[The Guard]

Action heroing isn't Tatum's weak point. Drama is. This doesn't exactly look like a drama.

[TheVileOne]

I think both are his weak points. The Eagle. GI JOE. Fighting.

[steintym]

I don't like the cast but for some reason I'm still interested in this.

I completely agree. The stars of this do nothing for me, but I'm still interested in the concept. Seems like a movie I'd definitely catch.

[TheVileOne]

I'm more interested in Olympus Has Fallen. Much better cast and director.

[Figs]

I completely agree. The stars of this do nothing for me, but I'm still interested in the concept. Seems like a movie I'd definitely catch.

I think it's (as I believe it was HR who said it) the Die Hard aspect that's keeping me interested.

[-JKR-]

No I don't. I know he's had several hits but that doesn't make him a believable action star. They tried that with GI JOE and it failed. They basically wrote him out of the sequel until his recent string of hits. The director and producer talked about how at first they were going in a completely new direction with GI JOE 2, Rock is the star now, blah blah blah.

What has Channing Tatum magically becomes this hardcore gritty actor and awesome action hero? No he hasn't. He was a terrible Duke.

And the director is Roland Emmerich . . . Godzilla 1998.

Why did I imagine you'd bring up G.I. Joe? :whatever:

[TheVileOne]

Because it happened?

[-JKR-]

Because once someone is involved with a 'geek movie' (read: a movie based on material which has a fanbase) and it doesn't turn out to be good, said someone becomes a hack (is it a coincidence that of all of Emmerich's movies you mentioned - once again - a 'geek movie'?). Is Channing Tatum one of the best actors around? Of course not, but with 21 Jump Street he showed there's talent and charisma to him.

[TheVileOne]

I disagree, and I saw 21 Jump Street.

[-JKR-]

I agree that we disagree.

[Project862006]

yeah gonna disagree with TVO here tatum was awesome in 21 jump street

[culver3vlr22]

He's was the 2nd funniest part of 21JS. You can't deny that he showed the talent he has now if he goes back to was he was before 21JS than yea ill say he's a hack but after that movie I have to give him a chance. Trust me I don't I wanna hate tatum, but he made me laugh(ALOT) and still makes me laugh from 21. But that's just me that's why movies aren't sports.

[bapi]

re: Tatum - I really changed my opinion this year. He was very likeable in The Vow, very "down-to-earth" in Magic Mike and 21 Jump Street is the best movie of this year for me! Plus Emmerich, supporting actors, funny scvript with this 90s-like premise... Yeah, just can't wait!

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=96809

http://s11.postimage.org/noolc3mj7/hr_White_House_Down_2.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s14.postimage.org/nyoprkzmp/hr_White_House_Down_5.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[terry78]

Yeah, they're giving Jamie an Obama vibe.

[bapi]

Vanderbilt's script is really entertaining. Will be a great movie.

[terry78]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/whd-small.jpg

Now that is how you do a teaser for something like this. You know they just took a camera shot on the Mall and decided to use it, which is very clever as opposed to Photoshop.

[DarkKnight88]

Emmerich movies always have great teaser posters.

[dark_b]

i guess they didnt realese a trailer because they waited until the first movei was realesed so that they didnt confuse people.

on the other side this is an Emerich movie and its going to be big. maybe they didnt have enough effects for the trailer.

[Lencho01]

Now that is how you do a teaser for something like this. You know they just took a camera shot on the Mall and decided to use it, which is very clever as opposed to Photoshop.

I think there was still some since that lady in white in the lower right has her shadow going in a different direction.

[jacobed]

Good luck on this being better than Olympus Has Fallen. That was fantastic

[mongoose-mania]

I think there was still some since that lady in white in the lower right has her shadow going in a different direction.

Or the tiny layer of extra legs they forgot to cut out at the top of the steps.

[Ultimatehero]

Good luck on this being better than Olympus Has Fallen. That was fantastic

I've got the script and will be giving a full or brief run-down on Wednesday, after I read it, on how they compare.

[Lencho01]

Or the tiny layer of extra legs they forgot to cut out at the top of the steps.

I wasn't sure if those were supposed to be bags or something.

[Sawyer]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/whd-small.jpg

Now that is how you do a teaser for something like this. You know they just took a camera shot on the Mall and decided to use it, which is very clever as opposed to Photoshop.

It's not that great. :o

[Mace Dolex]

So now we're getting the trend of White House movies it seems.

[Project862006]

http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img7/whitehousedown-teaserposter2-full.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

Interesting approach to the teaser poster campaign.

[terry78]

It's not that great. :o

You're not that great. :cmad:

[Sawyer]

You're not that great. :cmad:

I KNOW!!!! :waa:

[DarkKnight88]

So now we're getting the trend of White House movies it seems.

Usually the second, bigger film of the same theme wins out at the box office in the end but every once in a while the first does better. So who will win in the Olympus Has Fallen/White House Down box office throwdown?

Tombstone/Wyatt Earp, Dante's Peak/Volcano, Deep Impact/Armageddon, Antz/A Bug's Life, Mirror Mirror/Snow White and the Huntsman

[Ultimatehero]

The thing is Deep Impact was kinda boring, Antz wasn't made by Pixar coming off of Toy Story, and Mirror Mirror never looked that good and got bad reviews.

Here, I'll find out after I read the script, it seems like it will go to Olympus Down which is already doing well. I think audiences might take the trailer for this the wrong way. Olympus Down got an "a" cinescore, so it will probably build good word of mouth and continue to run strong. And those who have seen it, might take this one as trying to cash in on it. Unsure.

[mclay18]

I think the Tatum and Emmerich factor might bring in some people who weren't interested in OHF. But who knows.

[Sawyer]

The thing is Deep Impact was kinda boring, Antz wasn't made by Pixar coming off of Toy Story, and Mirror Mirror never looked that good and got bad reviews.

Here, I'll find out after I read the script, it seems like it will go to Olympus Down which is already doing well. I think audiences might take the trailer for this the wrong way. Olympus Down got an "a" cinescore, so it will probably build good word of mouth and continue to run strong. And those who have seen it, might take this one as trying to cash in on it. Unsure.

Deep Impact was awesome. :o

[Ultimatehero]

Don't get me wrong, it's entertaining albeit slowly paced. But, to me it just doesn't stand up against Armageddon.

[Sawyer]

Couldn't disagree more. Waaaaaay better than Armageddon. :o

[Project862006]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8dbgdcoBR1r0eggqo1_500.gif

[jacobed]

Well there very different movies. Deep Impact is a drama and Armageddon is an action movie

[dark_b]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6OSlgBoXc8&feature=player_embedded

http://i.imgur.com/80Q8jeu.jpg

[Sawyer]

Yes, I understand most days DO start with Channing Tatum strutting around in a wifebeater.

[Ultimatehero]

My day also starts with walking away from fire and smoke behind me. Nothing like waking up in the middle of an explosion then walking out of it.

[Hunter Rider]

Looking at the sneak peek it looks like Emmerich has a real chopper at least.

[TheVileOne]

Those clips on the surface look virtually identical to Olympus Has Fallen.

[Project862006]

yeah i know right that white house,explosions,and shooting guns

who would of thunk....

[Liam_H]

A difference so far is that the President is going to be tagging along instead of being a hostage. At least that's what is shown.

[dark_b]

there is going to be a mistery and a twist. they are doing experiments on aliens under the white house. :)

[Visceral]

channing tatum is dumb

[Ultimatehero]

they are doing experiments on aliens under the white house. :)

Wait, how'd you know? I didn't tell you guys what I thought of the script's ending yet! That already leaked?!

[DarkSovereignty]

channing tatum is dumb

The pointedness of your wit is staggering.

[terry78]

Dumb he may be, none of his movies have technically failed sans G.I. Joe., which was more of an ensemble.

[TheVileOne]

The Eagle bombed and so did Stop-Loss.

[Mace Dolex]

Usually the second, bigger film of the same theme wins out at the box office in the end but every once in a while the first does better. So who will win in the Olympus Has Fallen/White House Down box office throwdown?

Tombstone/Wyatt Earp, Dante's Peak/Volcano, Deep Impact/Armageddon, Antz/A Bug's Life, Mirror Mirror/Snow White and the Huntsman
Transfomers/Transmorphers :woot:

[Pink Ranger]

Transfomers/Transmorphers :woot:

Carnosaur/Jurassic Park :woot:

[Ultimatehero]

I hate that company!!!!!

Yet again, I oddly can't wait to see what they do with my material as well lol.

[Visceral]

The pointedness of your wit is staggering.

I try.

[TheIrishAvenger]

TRAILER #1

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[hitmanyr2k]

Couldn't disagree more. Waaaaaay better than Armageddon. :o

Agreed. I somehow managed to fall asleep in theaters on summer's two loudest movies that year...that being Armageddon and Godzilla. Armageddon was just plain corny. It was Con Air in space...annoying characters, godawful sappy music and all. And then they skimp out on the carnage in the end with that tearjerker crap. I'm not gonna cry for Bruce Willis in this movie :funny: It was actually a mercy killing that his character didn't have to live the world's most annoying couple in Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler. At least Deep Impact's comet buried the eastern seaboard with a huge tidal wave :up:

[Ultimatehero]

Tidal wave. What about NYC?! When I see meteors - I want to see explosions, not people talking about the explosions.

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Anyway, trailer looks different enough and is drawing the audience in through something that's not the white house being under attack -- VERY smart marketing move there.

[Schlosser85]

Honestly, a corny generic action flick like Armageddon is more boring to me than Deep Impact.

[747]

Got zero excited or interested by that trailer.

[dark_b]

he has the John Mcclane shirt on :)

[TheIrishAvenger]

This is now the 3rd summer blockbuster to feature a plane attack (others are IM3 and WWZ) and 2nd to feature an Air Force One attack (IM3)

[culver3vlr22]

Anyone know what they plan on rating this.

Did the film an R and cut it or did they just make a PG-13 movie from the start.

[Ultimatehero]

It's Emerich, I doubt it was ever R.

[Sawyer]

channing tatum is dumb

Yeah, but he's pretty. In Hollywood, that is what's important. :o

[hitmanyr2k]

Tidal wave. What about NYC?! When I see meteors - I want to see explosions, not people talking about the explosions.

R9iSAwJalYI



That was about as weak as I remember it being. The first minute you have annoying characters for the sake of having annoying characters. Then it's a bunch of claustrophobic close-ups of 'splosions and cars flipping ad nauseum. That scene could have been epic if you had a director who knew something about framing and editing a scene like that.

Contrast with this....

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The fear on everyone's face knowing they're about to die, wide angles, long shots. I can appreciate what's going on when the director isn't gutting the scene with half-second edits and pointing the camera every which way. It sh**s all over Armageddon's sci-fi channel worthy scene.

[Liam_H]

So this movie is gonna be more than just the White House is under attack.

[jacobed]

Trailer wasn't bad but Emmerich always has awesome trailers and crap movies so no thank you

[culver3vlr22]

It's Emerich, I doubt it was ever R.

True :(

[terry78]

It's a summer blockbuster, they're looking to bring in families.

[Lencho01]

TRAILER #1

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Does Tatum sound dubbed over to anyone else?

[Ultimatehero]

Hey, you're free to like Deep Impact. I just didn't care for it because when I see a movie about meteors -- I want to see the flipping meteors, not a bunch of people talking about the meteors. It's like an alien movie that hardly shows any aliens to me.

So this movie is gonna be more than just the White House is under attack.

Looks like it, I can give a lowdown tomorrow. I usually go to the gym and multi-task getting my reading done and using the stepper for two hours. So, I'll have info then. But, looks like it.

I read a previous white house script passing around Hollywood that was about the president discovering the illuminati was behind everything. Denzel was attached to it at some point. Foxx maybe too. For some reason the trailer brought that to mind. Like it was a combination of that and a siege movie.

It also didn't look like terrorists inside the white house as much as it did millions of squatters.

[Spideyfan93]

I liked this trailer, and this has potential to be a sleeper hit.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Who knows maybe its time old Roland redeems himself and actually makes a good film again.

[Thundercrack85]

Who knows maybe its time old Roland redeems himself and actually makes a good film again.

Again?

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I happen to like ID4 and don't absolutely hate his Godzilla.

[Thundercrack85]

It's so bad it's kind of entertaining.

Though I will give Emmerich this, his movies are always visually impressive.

[Ultimatehero]

I actually like all his films except for the BC one. All of them manage to be entertaining. Independence Day and Day After Tomorrow being my favorites.

[Hunter Rider]

I loved the trailer, you can see the higher budget at play and it looks to have an element of intrigue.

I read a previous white house script passing around Hollywood that was about the president discovering the illuminati was behind everything. Denzel was attached to it at some point. Foxx maybe too. For some reason the trailer brought that to mind. Like it was a combination of that and a siege movie.

That was 28th Amendment, Tom Cruise and Denzel Washington were set to star in it put it got stuck in development.

[Ultimatehero]

THAT is it! That script was GREAT!

[Visceral]

Yeah, but he's pretty. In Hollywood, that is what's important. :o

Gerard Butler finds work.

and the trailer...cant find the words...to say something positive about it. I like foxx tho.

[danoyse]

That was about as weak as I remember it being. The first minute you have annoying characters for the sake of having annoying characters. Then it's a bunch of claustrophobic close-ups of 'splosions and cars flipping ad nauseum. That scene could have been epic if you had a director who knew something about framing and editing a scene like that.

Not to mention that those street scenes were so obviously not New York. It was downtown LA, with inserts of the NY skyline.

Contrast with this....

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The fear on everyone's face knowing they're about to die, wide angles, long shots. I can appreciate what's going on when the director isn't gutting the scene with half-second edits and pointing the camera every which way. It sh**s all over Armageddon's sci-fi channel worthy scene.

The only time I ever saw Deep Impact was on a plane, flying to New York from London. It's fun watching a meteor hit the Atlantic Ocean while flying over it. :wow:

I'm not a huge fan of either movie, but Deep Impact is the better destruction scene, hands down.

[Visceral]

I happen to like ID4 and don't absolutely hate his Godzilla.

Godzilla did what it set out to do, and people crucified it. I've seen other Godzilla movies and I'm sorry they aren't exactly Russian Literature comparatively.

[Ultimatehero]

The only time I ever saw Deep Impact was on a plane, flying to New York from London. It's fun watching a meteor hit the Atlantic Ocean while flying over it. :wow:

Things like that are always trippy. Seven years ago I wrote a teleplay, about someone having to stop a Gremlin from crashing a plane, while ON a long plane ride - I haven't been able to ride a plane without being afraid since.

Also the beginning to 'Final Destination' plays awesomely as well lol.

[mclay18]

The trailer looks terrible. It actually looks like a ripoff of OHF, even though both films were in production at the same time.

And Tatum... my God, Gerald Butler wipes the floor with him. (Looks like he came straight out of the first G.I. Joe film and into this film.) And Jamie Foxx looks funny with those glasses.

[Doctor Jones]

Now see, I liked this trailer more than the Olympus Has Fallen one. Seems there will be more than just what the title suggests. And from what I see, I'm actually liking Tatum in this trailer. He's pretty convincing. The situation itself looks very interesting and not only that, this trailer as a whole was very well done and cut together. Really added a level of intrigue to it.

[Ultimatehero]

Half-of the script:

The movie takes about thirty to forty minutes to get into the White House being attacked.

Our protagonist is Cale, he served in the marines then when he left became the protector for the Secretary of State. An elderly man who doesn't want to be the president. Here it reminded me of the relationship Jeff Goldblum had with his dad in 'Independence Day.' He is an absentee father of a daughter who although she doesn't want to show how much she looks up to, it's clear that she sees him as a hero and is a walking encyclopedia about the white house.

Cale's daughter is with a witty tour guide, think Jon Cryer and you've got his personality down, when this whole thing is taking place.

The president is, well - he's the president, but he has a certain Jamie Foxx vibe about him if that makes sense? He has a sarcastic wit.

That's the thing that immediately sets this apart from Olympus Has Fallen - this movie has a lot more light hearted humor in it somehow.

The lead bad guy is the head of the secret service department -- the first half it's revealed that this entire thing might be a military operation. They don't care about the president as much as they care about getting their hands on certain classified files within the White House technological vault.

The explosion seen in the trailer is about a man who gets in and blows himself up as a diversion. This scene read really bad in the script at first. But made sense later on. However, I'm still iffy about it despite it being possible. Because its done in such a way that makes you ask how he got past the entire security team (some of which aren't in on it).

There is not as much action as in 'Olympus Has Fallen' which so far is clearly the most spectacle of the two since so far Cale and the president have just been running around avoiding the bad guys rather than fighting. This is more character-driven, but also causes one to question how there can be these moments due to what is going on.

It is the vice president aboard air force one.

The president has been trying to work in a peace treaty which the more conservative seem against - the conservative party thinks peace is a joke and that the president is naive to think his treaty can work. If it is the military - this could be why.

I'm about half-way in so far, I'll probably be reading the rest tomorrow. So far I'd give it a 7-8, but depending on where it goes it might become an 8-8.5.

[terry78]

Yeah, that plot point at the end there will pretty much make this a 180 from the "jingoism" of Olympus.

[Rowsdower!]

Not sure what to make out of that trailer. They did a pretty good job of building the intensity at the beginning, and the effects look better than what I saw in the Olympus Has Fallen trailer. But other things were just unintentionally funny. I love how they remind you that Emmerich directed 2012 and The Day After Tomorrow, as if those are movies to be proud of. And it looks like they tried REALLY hard to make Tatum look like John McClane.

Also, I can't wait for the Asylum Version: White House Has Fallen: Olympus Down.

[DarkSovereignty]

I don't know, I think he looks pretty cool. I like how the film builds up like this huge event. whereas Olympus has fallen just came off like an action film, this one has more of a thriller vibe to it, Roland emmerich, while not anywhere near my favorite film maker, does know how to establish a massive scope with his movies. I just hope he doesn't have his trademark bloated, 2 dimensional ensemble cast.

[Ultimatehero]

2012 earned 769 million worldwide (higher overseas gross) while Day After Tomorrow earned 544 million (higher domestic gross). The films are only a disappointment critically, while they continually prove to have an audience. If it's one thing Emerich is known for it's drawing crowds in. To me, that is something to be proud of. They're pure escapism. And personally, like Emerich more than Bay (although they're arguably similar) because he knows how to pace his films.

[Bowie]

Looks awful.

Will not watch.

[Rowsdower!]

2012 earned 769 million worldwide (higher overseas gross) while Day After Tomorrow earned 544 million (higher domestic gross). The films are only a disappointment critically, while they continually prove to have an audience. If it's one thing Emerich is known for it's drawing crowds in. To me, that is something to be proud of. They're pure escapism. And personally, like Emerich more than Bay (although they're arguably similar) because he knows how to pace his films.

Well, that's true. I guess when it comes to those movies, in addition to the bad reviews, I've yet to meet anyone who likes them. I mean hell, I'm a huge lefty and even I thought The Day After Tomorrow was f***ing awful. But yeah, when movies make that much money, it does mean that someone out there liked them.

As for Emmerich vs. Bay... that's an interesting debate. Both have made films that I loved (Independence Day, Stargate, the Rock, the first Transformers), though neither has done anything good recently. But maybe this film and Pain & Gain will be returns to form for both of them.

[protocida]

James Woods is the bad guy. He wants the codes for data farming, and employs Jason Clarke and his team to break in. Maggie Gyllenhall is a Secret Service agent who protects the President, but gets locked out of the White House and helps Channing Tatum behind James Woods' back.

[terry78]

James Woods? I'm already in.

[Ultimatehero]

Knowing that casting, already raising my score for this. Also awesome to be able to read the rest knowing the cast (forgot to look before reading, place had no internet connection). But that cast can really bring this to life.

[dark_b]

Woods? yeah baby

[rayc1971]

after seeing the trailer for this I don't want to see it.when both these films were being made this is the one I wanted to see because of the cast.olympus has fallen had a better trailer to me this reminds me of deep impact vs amageddon and snow white and the huntsman vs mirror mirror why couldn't they stretch them out further.one could have came out in spring and the other in winter

[bapi]

James Woods is the bad guy. He wants the codes for data farming, and employs Jason Clarke and his team to break in. Maggie Gyllenhall is a Secret Service agent who protects the President, but gets locked out of the White House and helps Channing Tatum behind James Woods' back.

But Jenkins is the main bad guy.

[terry78]

Somebody is a liar.

[protocida]

^ He's probably right, I often confuse the two. It doesn't help that the characters' names were changed.

[Ultimatehero]

MAJOR SPOILER:

Both are bad guys. Jenkins being the villain is the twist at the very end. Data mining is just a cover. His real plan was to assasinate the president so he could rise to power and instill a nuclear war with Iran due to now being granted the power to do so.

[protocida]

What a twist!

[Doctor Jones]

2012 earned 769 million worldwide (higher overseas gross) while Day After Tomorrow earned 544 million (higher domestic gross). The films are only a disappointment critically, while they continually prove to have an audience. If it's one thing Emerich is known for it's drawing crowds in. To me, that is something to be proud of. They're pure escapism. And personally, like Emerich more than Bay (although they're arguably similar) because he knows how to pace his films.

Both know how to make an action film and execute it in a way to be immensely successful. If you can do that and keep getting these gigs, internet be damned, you're obviously doing something right as a director. So good for Emmerich and Bay I say. They're doing what they love and making boat loads of money off of it.

Emmerich's quality of direction depends on the script. James Vanderbilt wrote the screenplay, so that's one of the reasons why I have an interest in this. Zodiac is one of my favorite movies so with him attached we got the chance of a good movie here.

[Anita18]

TRAILER #1

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Call me Captain Obvious, but there are a lot of other buildings down in this movie than just the White House. :funny:

[terry78]

That's the only building that matters. Everyone else is just **** out of luck.

[theShape]

Judging by how terrible Olympus Has Fallen was, this film will definitely take the prize of being the better White House attack movie this year. I mean, it'd basically have to be 2 hrs of jiberrish to be worse than OHF.

OHF was so over-the-top, cheesy, and fantastical. Hopefully, this one will turn out to be a legitimate thriller with true intensity.

[jacobed]

This will be the exact same but it won't have any bad ass Gerard and great brutal action to make it good. So it'll terrible.

[Ultimatehero]

Shape, that's your opinion of it. Those leaving the theaters gave it a cine score of A-, this film is going to have a hard time topping that audience rating. And quality wise, from the script, OHF is the better of the two. It's also the smarter and more realistic of the two.

ADDING: While the script is all right, it was definitely a let down in that a white house siege just doesn't seem real unless it's rated R. It's almost like PG-13 superhero level action, which is fun and entertaining, but it just doesn't seem to settle quite right with the subject matter all the time. It's fun and popcorn, while the story is hard and traumatic. Personally, that's what I liked about White House Down - people died, there was a sense of urgency, and it was a substantially darker and more serious film.

[theShape]

Shape, that's your opinion of it. Those leaving the theaters gave it a cine score of A-, this film is going to have a hard time topping that audience rating. And quality wise, from the script, OHF is the better of the two. It's also the smarter and more realistic of the two.

ADDING: While the script is all right, it was definitely a let down in that a white house siege just doesn't seem real unless it's rated R. It's almost like PG-13 superhero level action, which is fun and entertaining, but it just doesn't seem to settle quite right with the subject matter all the time. It's fun and popcorn, while the story is hard and traumatic. Personally, that's what I liked about White House Down - people died, there was a sense of urgency, and it was a substantially darker and more serious film.

Of course that's my opinion of it, but as a student of film, I can recognize a poorly made film when I see one. Olympus Has Fallen was designed to be a crowd pleaser and it's not hard to see why: Americans kicking ass. Flags being raised from the ashes. C'mon now.

But as a film, it's wholeheartedly predictable. There's not one moment that we don't see coming. There is not one instance where we as audience members fear for Gerard Butler's life. The special effects are beyond shoddy. The direction and cinematography are bland. I saw OHF with a semi-packed crowd and half of the audience was belly laughing at all the parts that were not meant to be humorous at all, and I was laughing along with them. I get that it's mindless, Americanized, popcorn action. It's meant to be light and fun, we're meant to enjoy watching countless people gunned down and stabbed violently, but I don't see how anyone in their right mind could take the film seriously. I would have given it an A-Cinemascore purely based on how hilarious it was! Seriously, it was really funny.

Insert Bruce Willis and rename the main character 'John McClane" and we would have had a nice R-rated Die Hard sequel. There are so many blatant similarities in OHF to the original Die Hard (right down to the villains) that it wouldn't be a reach to say that it's almost a quasi-remake of Die Hard.

I'm just hoping that White House Down has something different to bring to the table. Some actual intensity and visceral filmmaking would be nice. A few twists and turns to keep us on our toes would be great, and hopefully they can actually convey a level of sadness when bad things happen to good people. But if you're saying that OHF is actually the more realistic of the two films, then I have no hope for White House Down and probably won't be seeing it. OHF was completely absurd and over-the-top (Hydra weapons, Cerberus, massive planes appearing over Washington DC out of nowhere, a 7-year-old kid outliving dozens of highly trained Secret Service agents, a hilarious situation room filled with idiots) so I was hoping WHD would be more of a true nail-biting thriller.

[Ultimatehero]

Of course that's my opinion of it, but as a student of film, I can recognize a poorly made film when I see one.

I'm a student of film, with connections to one of the top film companies out there as my main mentor. And because of them I'll have sold my first screenplay to a major studio by latest when I am 26 years old. So with all of this "I'm a film student, I know better than everyone" crap that film students prep themselves up on -- leave that all behind. I don't know if you are that way, but many film students do leave that way.

Here's a word from the master Joss Whedon himself:

It’s very important to know when to stick to your guns, but it’s also very important to listen to absolutely everybody. The stupidest person in the room might have the best idea.

Just saying because the 'student of film' seriously rubs me the wrong way. In order actually be someone, you have to know enough to know that even the counter clerk might know something that you don't. And anyone working in Hollywood can tell you the same thing. Being a film student just means you've watched many films. But, nothing prepares you for what's truly out there other than being able to listen to even the stupidest person in the room -- because they might know something your film degree didn't teach you. So if you truly want to make it? Drop the whole elitist 'I'm a student of film' thing that some film students have after graduation. It's just going to make you overlook the most important people in the room -- everyone else around you who doesn't have a film degree. Okay, enough of that rant.

It was a film that knew what it was. Hell, more than half of the time it was tongue and cheek. Why? The setting itself and what was happening was so dark that if you approached it seriously or not tongue in cheek you'll probably eliminate the enjoyment factor in it. There are many "Die Hard" ins and people walking in knew that's what it was -- thing is, that film did it a lot better than this one.

White House Down only offers extremely over the top action, obvious PG-13 violence, and a lot more humor. There is no actual intensity because it seems PG-13, the saving grace of this film -- like in 'Independence Day' and 'Day After Tomorrow' are the quieter character moments (which do feel out of place due to being within a siege on the white house -- the characters wouldn't have time to joke around). There is no level of sadness once so ever, it's all happy and jokey.

You have three versions. The realistic, nail-biting, overly depressing yet realistic take on it -- which studios would stay away from because it might be too bleak for some audience members. The tongue-and-cheek yet still dark at portions view on things. And then the classic Hollywood staple everything is happy blockbuster (as said, the script is entertaining but it just feels odd given the circumstances surrounding them).

[jacobed]

So because you're a student that makes the movie obviously poor? A lot of you film students are all the same, think you're better than everyone. This movie knew exactly what it is and it had fun with it. Was he script great? No but it made up for it in other aspects such as the actors and action.

[Ultimatehero]

So because you're a student that makes the movie obviously poor? A lot of you film students are all the same, think you're better than everyone.

Exactly. And the thing is -- to get ahead, one needs to drop that and start learning that they know just as much as everyone else around them. The elitist take on things never gets one far. Those are the people who go to Hollywood thinking "they're all that" and will start "acting Hollywood" then drop out once they see the truth of the matters. I was taken under their wing because I was a naive, humbled, fish out of the water that respected everyone around me and genuinely wanted to do the work. If I was the egotistical, "I'm all Hollywood LA dude," that never would have happened. And if someone in the industry does seem elitist - chances are they only wound up that way later in life after tons of blockbusters behind them, they didn't start out that way. You want to be the kid they take under their wing due to wide-eyed energy that I don't see the elitist kind of film student having - those are the kids I saw disappearing.

[theShape]

So because you're a student that makes the movie obviously poor? A lot of you film students are all the same, think you're better than everyone. This movie knew exactly what it is and it had fun with it. Was he script great? No but it made up for it in other aspects such as the actors and action.

All I said was that I'm a student of film and I can recognize when a film sucks...and I said that right after stating this was purely my opinion. Not trying to indicate that I'm better than anyone else, just that I thought OHF sucked.

In fact, the overall hokeyness and absurd nature of the film is exactly why it succeeded. I recognize that. I even said that I had a great time watching it because the film was so ridiculous. Just because many people enjoy watching a film doesn't qualify it as "great filmmaking". I had hoped White House Down would be the opposite side of this coin, a more serious take on the idea that'd be even more visually striking, but apparently people in this thread have already seen it and are telling me otherwise? So whatever.

Not even gonna respond to the other dude who got all up in arms because i said I was a film student. There's no argument here, it's all opinion. I could whine and say "Oh, well because it has an A-Cinemascore, that makes it a great film?" Absolutely not. And "as a film student", I'll be the first to tell you that I love films that know "exactly what they are". I'm probably as big of an action movie buff as anyone here. I just happened to think Olympus Has Fallen was pretty lousy, like TV-movie bad at some parts. Sorry to rain on everyone's parade and (apparently) insult people in the process, somehow.

[theShape]

Exactly. And the thing is -- to get ahead, one needs to drop that and start learning that they know just as much as everyone else around them. The elitist take on things never gets one far. Those are the people who go to Hollywood thinking "they're all that" and will start "acting Hollywood" then drop out once they see the truth of the matters. I was taken under their wing because I was a naive, humbled, fish out of the water that respected everyone around me and genuinely wanted to do the work. If I was the egotistical, "I'm all Hollywood LA dude," that never would have happened. And if someone in the industry does seem elitist - chances are they only wound up that way later in life after tons of blockbusters behind them, they didn't start out that way. You want to be the kid they take under their wing due to wide-eyed energy that I don't see the elitist kind of film student having - those are the kids I saw disappearing.

There is nothing elitist about me saying Olympus Has Fallen is a sucky movie. Nothing at all. So relax.

It's a movie that knows exactly what it is. Popcorn, violent action. Why am I not allowed to say that the movie itself is just bad? How does that make me elitist? Your Hollywood experiences have nothing to do with me saying "I'm a student of film". Even if I had never mentioned that, it doesn't change the fact that I think Olympus Has Fallen is a lame movie...

[Ultimatehero]

It was more the way you phrased it which did make you appear pompous. That's also why I said I was unsure if you are that kind of person or not. It's also notable that I wasn't the only one who saw it come off as such. But, if you even are slightly - that's something you need to drop. Because everyone knows those all so serious students in film school with an elitist attitude, from my experience - those guys never go far. I was one of the humble guys at the school and now I'm about to launch my dream career for real. So, as said, whether if you are or aren't - it did sound that way (and not only to me) - and if that is there, that is something to let go of. And as said, mentioned "don't know if you are or aren't." Most who've made it wouldn't even think to add "as a student of film" because that implies you knowing better than the "non students of film." So it had nothing to do with your take on the film, rather the seeming put down to the non-students of film which someone else did read it that way.

[theShape]

It was more the way you phrased it which did make you appear pompous. That's also why I said I was unsure if you are that kind of person. But, if you even are slightly - that's something you need to drop. Because everyone knows those all so serious students in film school with an elitist attitude, from my experience - those guys never go far. I was one of the humble guys at the school and now I'm about to launch my dream career for real. So, as said, whether if you are or aren't - it did sound that way - and if that is there, that is something to let go of.

Dude, again, your words are wasted on me. Not interested in any of that and it's completely unrelated to the point I was trying to get across.

If you were a student of film, then you will have viewed, studied, and analyzed all kinds of films. I've studied every genre and sub-genre, from Hong Kong cinema and disaster films to the works of Francis Ford Coppola and Stanley Kubrick. My point was something you should know better than anyone...when a large amount of people in America enjoy a film and that film makes money, it does not by any means prove that it is a great film. I knew what to expect going into Olympus Has Fallen and I paid money to see the film purely because my friends and I wanted to watch Gerard Butler kick ass for 2 hours. I did not anticipate that it would be filled with so many eye-rolling moments, however. It was pretty hilarious, but I was still disappointed. That is all.

[Ultimatehero]

Hey, be my guest on whether to take that advice from someone who has made it or not. Up to you. It wasn't your point, but it did come off that way to more than just me.

So because you're a student that makes the movie obviously poor? A lot of you film students are all the same, think you're better than everyone. This movie knew exactly what it is and it had fun with it. Was he script great? No but it made up for it in other aspects such as the actors and action.

And my point was - you won't make it if you think that highly of "being a student of film." And that's simply because it just makes one look bad.

My point had nothing to do with the quality which is pretty much all subjective. I'm as easy to please as Robert Downey Jr. -- offer me some form of entertainment in any way possible and I'm all yours. The thing also is that there is no determination of what makes or breaks a film. There are some things. But most things are subjective. If you say critics - critics still get it wrong as well, they said Wizard of Oz was abysmal and that the Les Miserables broadway production was beyond terrible. Critics are like everyone else. So that is subjective down to the person and that's not what I had a problem with.

It was just the elitist type of attitude you seemed to take on when stating "student of film," which didn't really bother me - I was just making a point - that if you want to make it, you have to stop seeing yourself as "a student of film" and just as "one of the masses." That's the secret to getting ahead. It did bother someone else though and I'm sure others upon reading that line as well. Basically all I'm doing is offering hard advice with a little harshness to get the point across in case that is there (why else would one mention it unless to try to brag?)

[Hunter Rider]

:dry:

[theShape]

Hey, be my guest on whether to take that advice from someone who has made it or not. Up to you. It wasn't your point, but it did come off that way to more than just me.



And my point was - you won't make it if you think that highly of "being a student of film." And that's simply because it just makes one look bad.

My point had nothing to do with the quality which is pretty much all subjective. I'm as easy to please as Robert Downey Jr. -- offer me some form of entertainment in any way possible and I'm all yours. The thing also is that there is no determination of what makes or breaks a film. There are some things. But most things are subjective. If you say critics - critics still get it wrong as well, they said Wizard of Oz was abysmal and that the Les Miserables broadway production was beyond terrible. Critics are like everyone else. So that is subjective down to the person and that's not what I had a problem with.

It was just the elitist type of attitude you seemed to take on when stating "student of film," which didn't really bother me - I was just making a point - that if you want to make it, you have to stop seeing yourself as "a student of film" and just as "one of the masses." That's the secret to getting ahead. It did bother someone else though and I'm sure others upon reading that line as well.


I'm confused. You're still going on about "making it" in the film business or not. I'm just saying that Olympus Has Fallen sucked. Are you trying to suggest that if I conform to the masses and praise bad films, I can make it in Hollywood?! Yay!!!

I am both a student of film AND one of the masses. There are plenty of films I love that are bashed by pretentious critics whom you might consider to have an elitist attitude. Once again, I'll re-iterate: I mentioned that "as a student of film, I can recognize a poorly made film when I see one." By that, I meant that THE FILMMAKING BEHIND OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN WAS NOT GOOD OR ANYTHING SPECIAL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. I don't know why you keep trying to bring film politics into this discussion. Your attitude towards me seems way more 'elitist' than me saying "Hey, I study films and this one sucked." Whether you realize it or not, you've been trying to represent me as some kind of misguided film snob while praising yourself as someone who "made it", and you wanna call me elitist? Jeez.

[Ultimatehero]

Your line obviously tells me that you are missing the point. Your original sentence was obviously meant for bragging rights. "I am a student of film therefore I know more than the masses." You didn't nail me because I am someone who's made it in with one of the top five film studios in existence. But, you did offend somebody else and I'm betting others who have read that line as well. And that does matter to me. No one is saying like what you don't like. Everything is subjective. All that's being said is -- don't look down on the masses which you clearly were because why else would one say that if not to try to brag?

And indeed answer that - why did you even mention "as a student of film" without just putting your opinion out there. What was the need to put that? And I bet you won't tell me an answer to that or will try to navigate around an answer to that.

You are clearly ignoring that you did offend someone already. Someone other than me who picked up on what it still seems you were implying. That being a film student gives one better knowledge when it doesn't in no way, shape, or form. It's just one opinion lost in a sea of opinions.

I'll liken it to you're Ben Stiller telling the crew that they can not eat because you want to keep on filming without caring who you offend. While I'm more like Robert Downey Jr telling you to shut the hell up, that these other people matter, and to try to stop looking so big - because the big guys don't need to belittle others just because of some 'title' they may have. (And that's a true story). The difference between you and me? You offended somebody by sounding egotistical even if you didn't intend to. I'm only offending you here because I'm standing up for the crowd, one of which in it was offended.

Also as anyone can see light as day - I've always said you are open to having your opinion because everything is subjective. That's not calling you a snob. That's just saying it's one opinion amidst many other opinions that matter just as much - degree or not.

[theShape]

Your line obviously tells me that you are missing the point. Your original sentence was obviously meant for bragging rights. "I am a student of film therefore I know more than the masses." You didn't nail me because I am someone who's made it in with one of the top five film studios in existence. But, you did offend somebody else and I'm betting others who have read that line as well. And that does matter to me. No one is saying like what you don't like. Everything is subjective. All that's being said is -- don't look down on the masses which you clearly were because why else would one say that if not to try to brag?

And indeed answer that - why did you even mention "as a student of film" without just putting your opinion out there. What was the need to put that? And I bet you won't tell me an answer to that or will try to navigate around an answer to that.

You are clearly ignoring that you did offend someone already. Someone other than me who picked up on what it still seems you were implying. That being a film student gives one better knowledge when it doesn't in no way, shape, or form. It's just one opinion lost in a sea of opinions.

I'll liken it to you're Ben Stiller telling the crew that they can not eat because you want to keep on filming without caring who you offend. While I'm more like Robert Downey Jr telling you to shut the hell up, that these other people matter, and to try to stop looking so big - because the big guys don't need to belittle others just because of some 'title' they may have. (And that's a true story). The difference between you and me? You offended somebody by sounding egotistical even if you didn't intend to. I'm only offending you here because I'm standing up for the crowd, one of which in it was offended.

Also as anyone can see light as day - I've always said you are open to having your opinion because everything is subjective. That's not calling you a snob. That's just saying it's one opinion amidst many other opinions that matter just as much - degree or not.


You just said all the same things you said before... Once again, you "made it in one of the top 5 studios in existence". I'm the one bragging and you're not. Yup. Sure thing, pal. Also, today is opposite day.

I'm sorry that I mentioned I was a film student and that I tried "to look so big". It was TOTALLY my intention to offend everyone in America. Maybe I did offend someone with my offhand remark, but if anyone is coming off as egotistical here, it's you, and it's becoming borderline offensive. Welcome to the offensive club!

[Ultimatehero]

I never said I wasn't bragging. Only here your intention was to put down 85% of the members here. My only intention was to put down you just liked RDJ to Stiller. And it seems to have worked. And thank you for avoiding to answer the question that would have meant you didn't originally state it to try to brag about it. I think we're about done here. Everyone is equal regardless of schooling. The end.

[Hunter Rider]

From the Set: Roland Emmerich's White House Down (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=101897)

[Hunter Rider]

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[Gianakin_]

Lol@ Tatum trying to channel his inner McLaine.

[Liam_H]

Might be just me(probably is) but seeing the attire Tatum will be wearing in this movie. I keep expecting him to start dancing at any moment.

[dark_b]

edward dougles on moviemoan said that there will be some comedy between Tatum and Foxx.
http://www.thinkmcflythink.com/movie-moan-podcast/

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=103207

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[Liam_H]

The second poster makes it seem like Tatum is walking away nonchalantly after destroying The White House.

[samsnee]

Cool guys don't look at explosions.

[TheIrishAvenger]

New Trailer!

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[Liam_H]

They dynamic between Foxx and Tatum looks like it could be fun.

[*Whiplash*]

Not to mention the bad guy is Jason Clarke!

Looks like fun.

[terry78]

Haha, we do love our blow **** up-edness during summer. I actually want to see this one.

[samsnee]

I think the trailer wants us to know that his name is John Cale.

[dark_b]

he will get the job at the end of the movie hahahah :)

i bet the villain will get the daughter and the we get a final fight on the roof of the white house.

[Liam_H]

Nah, he gets another interview for the job where he can put 'saved President from terrorists' on there.

[Ajendo]

So this is Olympus has fallen 1.2?

[*Whiplash*]

So this is Olympus has fallen 1.2?

But without Gerard Butler. Which means it will be better.

[hammerhedd11]

Wow, I didn't exactly expect the film to be as dark as the first trailer made it out to be, but this newest trailer had probably the biggest out and out tonal change I've seen.

[Hunter Rider]

As mentioned above the real tone of the film was made clearer in this trailer, but I'm fine with the fact it's going to have a more humorous element, Foxx and Tatum look like they play off each other well and add that buddy cop type element. The action looks really good, you can see this is the bigger budget "Die Hard in the White House" film.

[henry_9305]

As mentioned above the real tone of the film was made clearer in this trailer, but I'm fine with the fact it's going to have a more humorous element, Foxx and Tatum look like they play off each other well and add that buddy cop type element. The action looks really good, you can see this is the bigger budget "Die Hard in the White House" film.
It seems more like "Lethal Weapon in the White House" to me lol

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I loved the new trailer. I can't see myself not seeing the film.

[SWAT]

Liked one of the top comments: "Oh darn, Olympus has fallen again."

[Eddie Dean]

All right, this looks like a lot of ****ing fun.

[terry78]

Stuff like this is where Tatum shines, more comedic roles. It's an action hero but it's got kind of an....I want to say Indiana Jones feel where the he's this strapping action hero, but bad luck just constantly befalls him.

[Ultimatehero]

But without Gerard Butler. Which means it will be better.

Unless the film is leagues better than the script, doubt it. And this is coming from an Emerich fan.

Lethal Weapon in the White House is the best way to sum up the tone. Not quality, but definitely the tone in that it is over the top and almost winking to the audience.

This might be a fun ride, just off of Emrich but don't look for much out of the script. It just came off as ridiculously too light at parts considering what the premise is.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=103749

http://s22.postimg.org/dgq2gnle9/hr_White_House_Down_23.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[Hunter Rider]

It seems more like "Lethal Weapon in the White House" to me lol

Heh! The "What if Riggs and Murtaugh were at Nakatomi Plaza?" question no one ever asked, finally answered! :D

[jacobed]

Ok this trailer sold me on the movie. Looks like a hell of a lot of fun. Last year changed my mind completely on Channing Tatum and this movie looks like his streak of awesomeness continues.

[Hunter Rider]

Go Behind the Scenes of White House Down (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=104759)

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[Blackman]

This does look fun, I def. want to see it. But Im gonna wait for what I hear people say about it before decideding whether to wait for DVD or not

Tatum is funny. Him and Mark Wahlberg, 2 guys who seem to have found their niche in comedy, should do more comedic roles