The Ongoing Serie A, La Liga, All English Football, Champions League Thread - Part 10

[RKO]

Real Madrid are La Liga champions.


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[Iceman]

Congrats to Real!! Mourinho proving himself in yet another country. I love Ronaldo's eye flick in that gif haha.

[The Englishman]

Leeds United have no players....

[Iceman]

Leeds United have no players....That's been the case for a while right? :woot:

[Darthphere]

So happy for Real Madrid.

[The Englishman]

That's been the case for a while right? :woot:

It might as well have been...:oldrazz:

[Darthphere]

But....Robbie Rogers....

[Iceman]

It might as well have been...:oldrazz:I haven't really been following Leeds a whole lot recently. What are their prospects?

Btw Darth has a great joke about a sewer if you're interested?

[Darthphere]

Damn you Iceman!

[The Englishman]

But....Robbie Rogers....
It's Roy Rogers isn't it?? :huh:
I haven't really been following Leeds a whole lot recently. What are their prospects?

Btw Darth has a great joke about a sewer if you're interested?

I dont get it??....:oldrazz:

Leeds prospects for next season is I really don't know to be honest. Today they Released 5 players from their contracts and put another 6 players on the transfer list so Warnock is going to have to get quite a lot of players in over the summer.

[Darthphere]

It's Roy Rogers isn't it?? :huh:

I don't think so.:word:

[The Englishman]

I don't think so.:word:

But I was hoping his horse would sign up for us, would be a lot better then the donkeys we have had on the pitch this season....

[Iceman]

I dont get it??....:oldrazz:
Damn you Iceman!I think he wants to expl/



Leeds prospects for next season is I really don't know to be honest. Today they Released 5 players from their contracts and put another 6 players on the transfer list so Warnock is going to have to get quite a lot of players in over the summer.11 players out! Mini-revolution! Do you have faith in Warnock? If you have, maybe it's what you need. If not, then ****!

[Van Petrol]

Cisse's second goal was Insane! The first wasn't too shabby either.

[Hunter Rider]

One point between Newcastle, Arsenal and Spurs! It's going to go to the wire for the title, top 4 spots and relegation.

Cisse's second goal was Insane! The first wasn't too shabby either.

Indeed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRqF3Tuq3ZY&feature=g-logo

[Hunter Rider]

Fiorentina Manager Delio Rossi Attacks Adem Ljajic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuenaf3fxwE&feature=g-logo)

Talk about losing your cool....

[Van Petrol]

Fiorentina Manager Delio Rossi Attacks Adem Ljajic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuenaf3fxwE&feature=g-logo)

Talk about losing your cool....
Couldn't believe that when I saw it...

Fiorentina have since sacked him.

[Iceman]

Cisse's second goal was Insane! The first wasn't too shabby either.It was amazing. His goal record is crazy since he joined. We just need to keep all our players over the summer.

To be prudent, I'm considering Newcastle's season as over at this point though. How do we pull a 4-0 defeat out of thin air in the middle of such a strong run which is just enough to take it out of our hands? Also I don't want to be rooting for Chelsea to lose in the CL. I'd rather Spurs finish 4th and then Chelsea win the the CL & they miss out so I can have a laugh about that :woot:

[Poeman]

Cisse's second goal was Insane! The first wasn't too shabby either.

He quickly is becoming a legend there...Wow, Newcastle baby!

[Poeman]

btw, heard Jozy Altidore got knocked out badly at a Dutch game

[kit1982]

But....Robbie Rogers....


Don't worry Darth calm down, Robbie's staying for another year Neil's a big fan.

Cisse's goal was just ridiculous, at first it looked a slice! How typically Newcastle would it be that the result that keeps them from 4th is Wigan?

Surely our United fans have a glimmer of hope?


Edit: Just seen that the Minnesota twins have stolen Marching On Together!

[The Englishman]

Don't worry Darth calm down, Robbie's staying for another year Neil's a big fan.

Cisse's goal was just ridiculous, at first it looked a slice! How typically Newcastle would it be that the result that keeps them from 4th is Wigan?

Surely our United fans have a glimmer of hope?


Edit: Just seen that the Minnesota twins have stolen Marching On Together!

Yeah who do the Minnesota Twins think they are?.....:word:

[B]

Real Madrid are La Liga champions.


http://oi49.tinypic.com/5wjatj.jpg

:funny:

Someone should stick that as there avatar. :up:

It's a coin flip who gets World Player of the Year between him & Messi. Both have had unbelievable scoring records this season.. the sort of goalscoring records you only see in Football Manager.

For me Ronaldo has just edged it, Messi has scored 10 goals more but has played 4 or 5 more games.. & with the way both players have been this season had Ronaldo played as many games he could have 10+ goals with the amount of hat-tricks they both fire out.

[B]

One point between Newcastle, Arsenal and Spurs! It's going to go to the wire for the title, top 4 spots and relegation.

That result at Chelsea could have a massive impact on the Newcastle/City game & the mindset Newcastle will go into that match with. Had they lost to Chelsea, they might have just folded or given up.. now though after that win they are in serious contention to actually finish 3rd nevermind finishing barely in Champions League spots.

It wouldn't surpise me in the slightest if Newcastle drew with City, United beat Swansea & then on the final day of the season City beat QPR & United draw with Sunderland.

League isn't over just yet me thinks..

[the_ultimate_evil]

so am i the only one who believe rangers fc should say sod it and drop to the english 3rd division.

its looking like a much better decision in the long run for the club and with such a die hard fan base i dont see them losing much support. plus in my opinion the SFA need rangers far more than rangers need them

without both rangers and celtic in the league they lose loads of sponsorship deals including tv time with sky

[chamber-music]

Rangers can't even play in Europe right now and they owe so much money. Would be owners are dropping their intrest fast as well.

I'm not sure right now how they are going to get out of that situation.

Rangers dropping into the lower Scottish leagues is like a premier league team going to play in the conference.

[Iceman]

Rangers can't even play in Europe right now and they owe so much money. Would be owners are dropping their intrest fast as well.

I'm not sure right now how they are going to get out of that situation.

Rangers dropping into the lower Scottish leagues is like a premier league team going to play in the conference.Rangers playing in the Scottish Premier League is like a premier league team going to play in the conference!

Sorry, couldn't help it :csad: :yay:

[ttotheusher]

He has his moments lol.

Well, I thought he played well. :funny:

Real Madrid are La Liga champions.



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When he flicks his eyes across, he looks like the ORLY owl!

Whose everyones money on tonight then for the Championship Play-Off? West Ham, or Cardiff?

[Iceman]

:funny:

Someone should stick that as there avatar. :up:

It's a coin flip who gets World Player of the Year between him & Messi. Both have had unbelievable scoring records this season.. the sort of goalscoring records you only see in Football Manager.

For me Ronaldo has just edged it, Messi has scored 10 goals more but has played 4 or 5 more games.. & with the way both players have been this season had Ronaldo played as many games he could have 10+ goals with the amount of hat-tricks they both fire out.Yeah it's great :woot:

Roanldo finishing the season better, Real winning the league and him performing in some important games may tip sympathy back in his direction. It was looking like 10 years of consecutive Messi otherwise. Winning the CL or getting to the final would have secured it for him I think as he's done well there. I guess we still have the international stuff that may play a part. I would also give it to Ronaldo by a sliver and I think others will want to take the chance to vote for him even if they are seen as equal just so it's not the same person every year.

Yeah, their goal records are straight out of Football Manager, when you have cheats enabled. That result at Chelsea could have a massive impact on the Newcastle/City game & the mindset Newcastle will go into that match with. Had they lost to Chelsea, they might have just folded or given up.. now though after that win they are in serious contention to actually finish 3rd nevermind finishing barely in Champions League spots.

It wouldn't surpise me in the slightest if Newcastle drew with City, United beat Swansea & then on the final day of the season City beat QPR & United draw with Sunderland.

League isn't over just yet me thinks..I said exactly this chain of results to my mate who supports City! Agreed, anything is possible.
so am i the only one who believe rangers fc should say sod it and drop to the english 3rd division.

its looking like a much better decision in the long run for the club and with such a die hard fan base i dont see them losing much support. plus in my opinion the SFA need rangers far more than rangers need them

without both rangers and celtic in the league they lose loads of sponsorship deals including tv time with skyWait, is that an option? Not sure if I missed something. I wouldn't mind personally.

[the_ultimate_evil]

Wait, is that an option? Not sure if I missed something. I wouldn't mind personally.

there are rumours of it floating around. nothing has ever been fully confirmed or denied

[chamber-music]

If Swansea and Cardiff can play in the English Leagues then Rangers can I suppose.

I've heard alot of fans of other clubs bang on about how Rangers has Shamed Scottish football and must be punished and hwo they don't need them.

Sounds like some Scottish football fans would rather see Rangers leave the SPL altogether.

Whose everyones money on tonight then for the Championship Play-Off? West Ham, or Cardiff?
I'm going West Ham to take a 2-1 lead against Cardiff

[Darthphere]

tgGMBTgoA2E

[kit1982]

tgGMBTgoA2E

Keeper should've saved it.....:oldrazz:

[Darthphere]

I think so too lol.

[Iceman]

West Ham 2-0 up against Cardiff in the playoff 1st leg.

[kit1982]

Eh if ever there was a game I wish both sides could lose it'd be West Ham vs Cardiff.

[Hunter Rider]

Couldn't believe that when I saw it...

Fiorentina have since sacked him.

As he should be IMO, I mean players disrespecting the manager need disciplining for sure but not assaulting, the guy is a loon.

Surely our United fans have a glimmer of hope?


That result at Chelsea could have a massive impact on the Newcastle/City game & the mindset Newcastle will go into that match with. Had they lost to Chelsea, they might have just folded or given up.. now though after that win they are in serious contention to actually finish 3rd nevermind finishing barely in Champions League spots.

It wouldn't surpise me in the slightest if Newcastle drew with City, United beat Swansea & then on the final day of the season City beat QPR & United draw with Sunderland.

League isn't over just yet me thinks..

Yes Kit and glimmer lol, I was thinking what B was thinking as I kept flicking to sky sports news during the Spurs/Bolton match. :D

[kit1982]

United will beat Sunderland, they aren't the side they were a few games a go. I'll go for

Newcastle 1 -1 City
United 5-0 Swansea

Sir Alex will come out and have a go at Ashley Williams and Mark Hughes accusing QPR of laying down for City. This will lead Mancini into a rant
" When you do that with footballers like he said about QPR and when you do things like he said about players like Ashley Williams, I've kept really quiet but I'll tell you something, he went down in my estimation when he did that. We haven't resorted to that, but I'll tell you, you can tell him now he'll be watching it, we're still fighting for this title and he's got to go to Sunderland and get something, and I'll tell you something I would love it if we beat them Love it!

Roll on the final day

City 1 QPR 1

Sunderland 0-3 United with Giggs nabbing the final goal.............

or not.

[chamber-music]

Eh if ever there was a game I wish both sides could lose it'd be West Ham vs Cardiff.
Suprised their isn't a punch up with the rep those two teams fans have.

[B]

United will beat Sunderland, they aren't the side they were a few games a go. I'll go for

Newcastle 1 -1 City
United 5-0 Swansea

Sir Alex will come out and have a go at Ashley Williams and Mark Hughes accusing QPR of laying down for City. This will lead Mancini into a rant
" When you do that with footballers like he said about QPR and when you do things like he said about players like Ashley Williams, I've kept really quiet but I'll tell you something, he went down in my estimation when he did that. We haven't resorted to that, but I'll tell you, you can tell him now he'll be watching it, we're still fighting for this title and he's got to go to Sunderland and get something, and I'll tell you something I would love it if we beat them Love it!

Roll on the final day

City 1 QPR 1

Sunderland 0-3 United with Giggs nabbing the final goal.............

or not.

I could live with this..

[ttotheusher]

I know a few pages back somebody posted the acting genius of the Neil 'Slim Shady' Warnock, but has anyone ever seen the rapping skills of Messrs Gamst Pederson and Riise?

dl0aIVc27iA

[chamber-music]

Wow that was terrible

On another note the Roy Hodson looks like a Owl meme is hilarious

[Iceman]

On another note the Roy Hodson looks like a Owl meme is hilarious:woot: Link?

[chamber-music]

:woot: Link?
http://s7.postimage.org/p5m2d2gaz/Ar0_QSb_ICQAEY7n_M.jpg

[Iceman]

Haha poor guy. Actually this should be taken as a compliment.

[Darthphere]

For the love of God, I don't want West Ham back in the EPL.

[Iceman]

For the love of God, I don't want West Ham back in the EPL.
The question is..do you want Cardiff in there?

[Van Petrol]

Sound like United are on the brink of signing Kagawa from Dortmund for £7-8m. Would be an excellent signing for them, and a steal at that price.

[Darthphere]

The question is..do you want Cardiff in there?

I want Blackpool. Give me Blackpool!

[B]

Sound like United are on the brink of signing Kagawa from Dortmund for £7-8m. Would be an excellent signing for them, and a steal at that price.

Personally I've not seen much of him myself however I have heard & read good things about him over the past season with supposedly several big clubs chasing him including Arsenal & Liverpool from the Premiership. You don't get that sort of attention if you aren't half decent.

The only problem I can think of is he is supposedly an attacking midfielder (also capable of playing on the wings if need be however ignoring this) & in my opinion United don't really play a formation/system that allows attacking central midfielders to flourish. For example I could give you the name of a player that was signed after he recieved rave reviews as an attacking midfielder however since signing hes maybe played an attacking midfield role about 5 or 6 times. Anderson.

Granted, I think Anderson is capable of becoming a good central midfielder as he has shown good tackling ability & for the most part is fairly composed on the ball, however at the moment hes starting to turn abit Louis Saha like being repeatedly injured & it is starting to have an effect on his progress.

If Kagawa were to join, would he be able to play in our system & not be considered a player that could compromise our formation particularly if Ferguson persists in playing 4-4-2?... Which looks likely considering the effectiveness of Rooney with either Welbeck or Hernandez looks doubly effective.

At £7m-£8m, I think we should still sign him given that he does look like the sort of central player we need ie someone capable of scoring, however I have my doubts as to whether he'd work in our standard 4-4-2 formation. Perhaps if we went back to 4-3-3 he would work as being the furthest forward of the 3 in midfield with 2 players like Scholes/Carrick/Fletcher in behind him feeding him possession & ball winning.. however I'd imagine Ferguson would have to be very impressed with his ability in the role to consider changing formations for 1 player..

[Van Petrol]

Not too sure how he'd fit into your set-up. I reckon you'll get him though. Apparently he's a United fan too.

[Hunter Rider]

Kagawa is ok but it's another Young instead of Sanchez second tier buy.

[Darthphere]

Call me naive but after this season, I think SAF has to realize that the 4-4-2 isn't going to get them anything, especially in Europe.

[the_ultimate_evil]

heading to the swansea game, this is either gonna be a great weekend or one i'd rather forget lol

[Van Petrol]

Oh well, no CL football for us next season. We've blown it...

[kit1982]

Noooooooo Spurs can't finish 3rd! Chin up and cross your fingers Van, City could well win tomorrow and Munich have a great chance and home advantage in the CL final.

[Van Petrol]

Tbf, the way we've been playing lately, we don't deserve to finish in the CL spots. It's a shame given how we came back from our near implosion during the summer and beginning of the season, to throw it away right at the end like we usually do.

[Darthphere]

Not to make it about my team but this Arsenal draw is exactly what I fear with our game versus Swansea.

[Scrandy Randy]

"May 12 will be my last game for Dortmund and then I will start a new chapter in Manchester United," Kagawa told TV Osaka.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/149430.html

Good move if true.

[Iceman]

Tbf, the way we've been playing lately, we don't deserve to finish in the CL spots. It's a shame given how we came back from our near implosion during the summer and beginning of the season, to throw it away right at the end like we usually do.Spurs don't deserve it either!

[kit1982]

Kagawa eh? That's an interesting move, quality player but is he what United need?

Liverpool in slow start cup final shock.....

[Scrandy Randy]

Kagawa is ok but it's another Young instead of Sanchez second tier buy.
I have two problems with this.

Young was in no way a second tier buy and you imply Sanchez was a first tier buy but when you look at the stats in comparison with their respective fees it really doesn't line up that way.

Sanchez - 12G, 5A, £21M going up to £29M based on incentives.

Young - 5G, 7A, £15M going up to £20M based on incentives.

This also not factoring in Barcelona score more goals in general(better talent and a more offensive team) and Young spent more time on the shelf this season then Sanchez did.

You then also say Kagawa is a second tier buy when he was a huge part of Dortmund's success this season. 13G 11A? Those are great numbers for an attacking midfielder he's producing on both fronts. Putting that with the fact he probably won't cost anything more then £10M and it's definitely a great first tier purchase.

[kit1982]

Great goal by Carroll out of nowhere, you can just see them coming back...

[kit1982]

What a save!!! Jesus, not sure if the whole ball went in but wow! But if he hadn't of been celebrating he could've just tapped it in, play to the whistle son!

Why didn't Liverpool show this desire 65 minutes earlier? They've been awesome since the goal but were pathetic before it.

[Two-Face]

Oh well, no CL football for us next season. We've blown it...

Man that sucks, :csad: I was sure Arsenal would finish least 3rd to get CL spot beaceuse they been playiing great football in couple of months.

[RKO]

http://i.imgur.com/TB0T7.gif

[Hunter Rider]

Congrats to Wobbly. :up: I only saw the 1st half and the last 15 minutes of the second, Carroll made a huge difference to Liverpool, they finally had a box threat and Carroll's goal was class, but fairt play to Chelsea, over the 90 minutes they deserved their win.

I have two problems with this.

Young was in no way a second tier buy and you imply Sanchez was a first tier buy but when you look at the stats in comparison with their respective fees it really doesn't line up that way.

Sanchez - 12G, 5A, £21M going up to £29M based on incentives.

Young - 5G, 7A, £15M going up to £20M based on incentives.

This also not factoring in Barcelona score more goals in general(better talent and a more offensive team) and Young spent more time on the shelf this season then Sanchez did.

You then also say Kagawa is a second tier buy when he was a huge part of Dortmund's success this season. 13G 11A? Those are great numbers for an attacking midfielder he's producing on both fronts. Putting that with the fact he probably won't cost anything more then £10M and it's definitely a great first tier purchase.

I actually know all those stats but Young is still a second tier player as far as class goes, stats for starters do not tell the whole story, Sanchez play has been integral this season to Messi's game, his movement and pace up top creates the holes for Messi to play in.

As for Kagawa, I checked his stats the other night as well, he's simply not as good as Eden Hazard if you have watched either play, so he will be a second tier pick up again this season as we get outbid for the premium talent.

http://i.imgur.com/TB0T7.gif

He's the boss as far as the new Wembley and the FA Cup goes.

[Harry_Lime02]

Damn, I thought this was gonna be our year. We did well when Carroll came on, but it wasn't enough. Now I just wish we'd drawn Chelsea back when they were off-form.

[Van Petrol]

Congrats to Chelsea and wobbly! :up:


Can't believe Sagna's broken his leg again in about the space of a year. :csad:

[kit1982]

Right I know they aren't going to win anything but is anyone watching Barca? I think thats about the 4th unjust penalty I've seen them win the past couple of weeks, I mean I know Real got a few pens but Messi seems to get 2 or 3 every week!

[Iceman]

Great goal by Carroll. Congrats to Chelsea ahead of their CL final.

[RKO]

Real Madrid also just got a penalty, in the middle of a corner. Lol

[Van Petrol]

Man that sucks, :csad: I was sure Arsenal would finish least 3rd to get CL spot beaceuse they been playiing great football in couple of months.

You reap what you sow, my friend. And the truth is, we still just aren't good enough.

The rot and decline is a slow and arduous one, but it's happening.

[RKO]

Wow what an ending to that game. Granada with an own goal let's Real Madrid win.

A Granada player throwing a bottle to the ref's face it's embarrassing.

[kit1982]

Ahhh man everytime I see anything to do with Bobby Robson I well up! Great man, even though Newcastle used to beat us all the time I never resented them when he was in charge.


Woahhh I think I heard Hunter's remote slam on the ground from here when Niall Quinn was announced as the co-comentator! :woot:

[Iceman]

Massive game today! 0-0 after 30 mins.

[Iceman]

Ahhh man everytime I see anything to do with Bobby Robson I well up! Great man, even though Newcastle used to beat us all the time I never resented them when he was in charge.


Woahhh I think I heard Hunter's remote slam on the ground from here when Niall Quinn was announced as the co-comentator! :woot:Best man in football.

Haha, I heard it too.

[ttotheusher]

Dream result today: Newcastle win, United win, Tottenham draw. Won't happen though.

[Iceman]

Spurs losing to Villa!

[Iceman]

Damn, good goal by Toure.

Could be a title winning goal.

[Dr Lee]

Curses and Naughty words

[Iceman]

Haha, how did they miss that?!

[RKO]

Lol that Yaya.

[Iceman]

Game set match.

[Dr Lee]

..... guess it's just not our season this time round.....

[Iceman]

Congrats to City.

Need Spurs to lose now.

[Van Petrol]

If anybody deserves a CL spot this season, it's Newcastle, IMO.

[Hunter Rider]

Never in my 25 years has losing a league hurt more, a bunch of merc whores have achieved a title win while clubs rich in history like Arsenal and Liverpool sit in the wake due to financial power.

To the credit of the mercs they beat us in the crunch game and then got the job done away from home today, where as we folded like a tent against Everton, so we deserve nothing.

Woahhh I think I heard Hunter's remote slam on the ground from here when Niall Quinn was announced as the co-comentator! :woot:

Heh! :D I only got up in time to see the last 25 minutes, to have that wanker's voice be the first thing I heard was like the anti-waking up next to Scarlett Johansson effect. :csad:

[Darthphere]

Never in my 25 years has losing a league hurt more, a bunch of merc whores have achieved a title win while clubs rich in history like Arsenal and Liverpool sit in the wake due to financial power.

To the credit of the mercs they beat us in the crunch game and then got the job done away from home today, where as we folded like a tent against Everton, so we deserve nothing.

The only consolation I take from this season is, if United win these last two games and City goes on to beat QPR to win the title is that they only won on goal difference. Such a huge payroll and money being thrown around and they could only win the league on a tie breaker. City fans won't care but deep down they'll know.:word:

[Darthphere]

2-0 United. Only 8 more goals to go....

[Dr Lee]

Vorm is better than that scummy move he pulled on Hernandez there.....

[Hunter Rider]

The only consolation I take from this season is, if United win these last two games and City goes on to beat QPR to win the title is that they only won on goal difference. Such a huge payroll and money being thrown around and they could only win the league on a tie breaker. City fans won't care but deep down they'll know.:word:

That's what I said to my Dad, lets make sure we win the last two games at least so they can only say they won on goal difference. :woot:

[Darthphere]

And however unlikely it maybe, QPR will be fighting for survival so that game is not a given.

[Iceman]

If anybody deserves a CL spot this season, it's Newcastle, IMO.Agreed :woot:

Looks like you are in the clear now for 3rd. Who is your last game against?

[Darthphere]

Phil Jones needs to stop attempting crosses.

[bapi]

Well, United spent 35 mil. to sign a centre-back so these money s***s are not funny. Plus Ferguson said many times that he can use those Ronaldo money - 80 mil. and when I see our signings: Kompany - 6M, Silva - 24M, Yaya - 24M, Barry - 12M, Zabaleta - 8M = 74M. Please, go and buy these players. ;-)

[kit1982]

Fair play to you Bapi, you've taken stick all season (some very unfair, some not), winning 6-1 at Old Trafford then beating them at home to snatch the title is stuff the dreams are made of. United deserve credit aswell this season for their spirit and quality, but in the end they just couldn't paper over the cracks enough.

Hopefully both sides come back even stronger next year and make it as interesting again.

[Van Petrol]

Agreed :woot:

Looks like you are in the clear now for 3rd. Who is your last game against?
West Brom. And we always struggle against them.

[Darthphere]

Never thought I'd be rooting for Mark Hughes to get a draw....

[Darthphere]

Well, United spent 35 mil. to sign a centre-back so these money s***s are not funny. Plus Ferguson said many times that he can use those Ronaldo money - 80 mil. and when I see our signings: Kompany - 6M, Silva - 24M, Yaya - 24M, Barry - 12M, Zabaleta - 8M = 74M. Please, go and buy these players. ;-)

Yeah but what are the wages they're paying those players? :o

[bapi]

Yeah but what are the wages they're paying those players? :o

Lower than Barca and Real.

[Darthphere]

Lower than Barca and Real.

I didn't realize they played in the Premier League.:huh:

[Hunter Rider]

Well, United spent 35 mil. to sign a centre-back so these money s***s are not funny. Plus Ferguson said many times that he can use those Ronaldo money - 80 mil. and when I see our signings: Kompany - 6M, Silva - 24M, Yaya - 24M, Barry - 12M, Zabaleta - 8M = 74M. Please, go and buy these players. ;-)

£40M for Tevez, £27M for Dzeko, £22M for Balotelli, £25M for Adebayor that you just discarded because you can waste money like that, £25M for Nasri, and they are all on massive wages including Toure who is on a ludicrous 220k a week, we didn't spend £35M on a center back, we paid £30M in total with add ons for Rio, City have spent over £250M in 3 seasons in fees alone before your insane wages are factored in.

[Scrandy Randy]

Well, United spent 35 mil. to sign a centre-back so these money s***s are not funny. Plus Ferguson said many times that he can use those Ronaldo money - 80 mil. and when I see our signings: Kompany - 6M, Silva - 24M, Yaya - 24M, Barry - 12M, Zabaleta - 8M = 74M. Please, go and buy these players. ;-)

The money argument rings truer then it ever has even with Chelsea. This is about as black & white as "buying a championship" will ever get. Not only that but it's setting up a transfer atmosphere where only Chelsea, City, Barcelona, and Madrid can compete to sign the world's top talent while teams that barely have a budget or have to spend responsibly(Liverpool, United, Arsenal) can't even get a sniff.

On a soccer forum I frequent someone made an analogy that I couldn't agree more with- "It's like saying you can't buy a house without money, of course you can't, but that doesn't mean you need to win the lottery and go out and buy a £2 million mansion with five cars parked in the driveway just to put a roof over your head, or live in relative comfort."

City 100% deserve the title this season if they go on to win it, but I'll never hold that title in the same esteem that I hold United's, Arsenal's, Liverpool's, and even Chelsea's(although that's a stretch).

[The Englishman]

Never in my 25 years has losing a league hurt more, a bunch of merc whores have achieved a title win while clubs rich in history like Arsenal and Liverpool sit in the wake due to financial power.

To the credit of the mercs they beat us in the crunch game and then got the job done away from home today, where as we folded like a tent against Everton, so we deserve . :csad:

I don't buy **** like not giving teams any credit because they have a load of money, saying rubbish like they bought the title and stuff. Manchester united have been one of the richest clubs in the world for a while now and dominated English football for a while too. Teams were not able to compete with Man U's financial clout so if certain teams need a massive cash injection by being bought by Billionaires then so be it. If Man City win the league then well done to them...

[ttotheusher]

Dream result today: Newcastle win, United win, Tottenham draw. Won't happen though.

Well, I got two out of three I guess.

Never in my 25 years has losing a league hurt more, a bunch of merc whores have achieved a title win while clubs rich in history like Arsenal and Liverpool sit in the wake due to financial power.

To the credit of the mercs they beat us in the crunch game and then got the job done away from home today, where as we folded like a tent against Everton, so we deserve nothing.

Been a dissapointing season overall, and I'm not even talking about the league. In Europe we've been awful, and our cup competition's have been uninspiring also. I was hoping that winning the league might ease my pain, but it looks like we've thrown that as well. :csad:

Well, United spent 35 mil. to sign a centre-back so these money s***s are not funny. Plus Ferguson said many times that he can use those Ronaldo money - 80 mil. and when I see our signings: Kompany - 6M, Silva - 24M, Yaya - 24M, Barry - 12M, Zabaleta - 8M = 74M. Please, go and buy these players. ;-)

I'm confused by your point, are you trying to say that United should of bought those players? The only one I'm envious of in that list is Yaya Toure, which is the engine room player we need. Barry? Seriously? One of the crappiest players not only in your squad, but the league itself?

Fair point that we signed Rio for 35 mil, but he's been at the club nearly 10 years now, and has proven one of our better buys; loyal, dedicated to the cause, and will probably stay with United after his playing career. I wonder how long it will take before Aquero moves to Madrid eh?

[Hunter Rider]

I don't buy **** like not giving teams any credit because they have a load of money, saying rubbish like they bought he title and stuff. Manchester united have been one of he richest clubs in the world for a while now and dominated English football for a while too. Teams were not able to compete with Man U's financial clout so if certain teams need a massive cash injection by being bought by Billionaires then so be it. If Man City win the league then well done to them...

I gave the credit for the last few performances did I not, but £250M in 3 seasons is utter insanity and way beyond anything we have ever done, we have always bought within a structure, we didn't buy half a squad and then farm them out when new shinier options came along, even Roman was not so ridiculous when he came into the league.

[Dr Lee]

£40M for Tevez, £27M for Dzeko, £22M for Balotelli, £25M for Adebayor that you just discarded because you can waste money like that, £25M for Nasri, and they are all on massive wages including Toure who is on a ludicrous 220k a week, we didn't spend £35M on a center back, we paid £30M in total with add ons for Rio, City have spent over £250M in 3 seasons in fees alone before your insane wages are factored in.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/SDLRob/GIFs/applause.gif

[Hunter Rider]

Been a dissapointing season overall, and I'm not even talking about the league. In Europe we've been awful, and our cup competition's have been uninspiring also. I was hoping that winning the league might ease my pain, but it looks like we've thrown that as well. :csad:


We were really exposed in Europe with our midfield issues and the fact we looked prehistoric with our tactics and set up.

[Scrandy Randy]

I don't buy **** like not giving teams any credit because they have a load of money, saying rubbish like they bought the title and stuff. Manchester united have been one of the richest clubs in the world for a while now and dominated English football for a while too. Teams were not able to compete with Man U's financial clout so if certain teams need a massive cash injection by being bought by Billionaires then so be it. If Man City win the league then well done to them...
Please look at United's transfer history and tell me how teams couldn't compete with our financial clout. We have been more then reasonable with the majority of our transfer fees occasionally breaking the bank(Berbatov, Ferdinand, Rooney, etc but recognized world class talent will always come at a steep fee) but we've also like I said balanced that out with plenty of reasonable transfers as well as selling off players.

[Hunter Rider]

Oh and I missed out Aguero, he was £38M and on 200k a week+.

[Iceman]

All clubs 'buy' the championship just to far different extents. Football has never been a level playing field where a talented enough manager can take a *normal level* club up the divisions and win the Premier League title. As soon as you do well, even before the era of foreign billionaires, you would lose all your best players the next summer. City are just shining the spotlight on this nature of the football game in everyone's face as they are the very worst example. But noone's clean here.

If this was a different club it would be City fans doing the complaining and most other clubs would invite these kind of owners to take them over so until those things change all these complaints hold little validity to me.

[Darthphere]

Oh and I missed out Aguero, he was £35M and on 200k a week+.

Hey, but they saved money all those months they didn't pay Tevez.:o

[ttotheusher]

We were really exposed in Europe with our midfield issues and the fact we looked prehistoric with our tactics and set up.

Yea I agree, the game has moved on from wing play and a 4-4-2 formation. I still wish we'd pay more attention to youth, we have a potential partnership in Cleverely/Pogba, when Cleverely came on today he was a bright spark in the centre of the park.

[Darthphere]

So doing my math, a draw for QPR keeps them up right? Followed by a United win, they lift the trophy. Is that how this is going down?

Nevermind, I forgot about the Wigan/Blackburn game tomorrow.

[The Englishman]

I gave the credit for the last few performances did I not, but £250M in 3 seasons is utter insanity and way beyond anything we have ever done, we have always bought within a structure, we didn't buy half a squad and then farm them out when new shinier options came along, even Roman was not so ridiculous when he came into the league.

You gave them credit for the last few performances while still moaning at the fact that they have "bought the title". I agree that I don't like how much they spend on wages and how they have wasted huge money on bad signings but sometimes some Man UTD fans make it sound like no one should have success but them. Let's put it this way if a multi billionaire decided to buy Leeds tomorrow I would be doing naked cartwheels down the street.

[Scrandy Randy]

All clubs 'buy' the championship just to far different extents. Football has never been a level playing field where a talented enough manager can take a *normal level* club up the divisions and win the Premier League title. As soon as you do well, even before the era of foreign billionaires, you would lose all your best players the next summer. City are just shining the spotlight on this nature of the football game in everyone's face as they are the very worst example. But noone's clean here.

If this was a different club it would be City fans doing the complaining and most other clubs would invite these kind of owners to take them over so until those things change all these complaints hold little validity to me.
That bit about the teams losing their players once they do well isn't really top teams fault though. It's down to the players themselves and the club they play for. Players have far to much power transfer wise in European soccer also most smaller clubs have one way or another found themselves in a bad financial situation so they're more or less forced to sell off talent once they emerge.

Newcastle for example have emerged this season as a vastly improved team challenging for a CL spot who are in a good financial spot so I doubt we'll see a lot of their good players leave after this season unless they force their way out.

[Darthphere]

Yea I agree, the game has moved on from wing play and a 4-4-2 formation. I still wish we'd pay more attention to youth, we have a potential partnership in Cleverely/Pogba, when Cleverely came on today he was a bright spark in the centre of the park.

I really wish we'd go to a 3 man midfield. A 4-1-2-1-2 or a 4-1-3-2/4-3-1-2.

Of course, this would require a CAM.

[The Englishman]

Please look at United's transfer history and tell me how teams couldn't compete with our financial clout. We have been more then reasonable with the majority of our transfer fees occasionally breaking the bank(Berbatov, Ferdinand, Rooney, etc but recognized world class talent will always come at a steep fee) but we've also like I said balanced that out with plenty of reasonable transfers as well as selling off players.

Leeds tried to compete with Man U's financial clout and it nearly destroyed the club....

[bapi]

Man. UTD fans are funny.

[Hunter Rider]

Yea I agree, the game has moved on from wing play and a 4-4-2 formation. I still wish we'd pay more attention to youth, we have a potential partnership in Cleverely/Pogba, when Cleverely came on today he was a bright spark in the centre of the park.

4-3-3 is something we really need to work towards, with greater movement and interchangeable forward play.

[Darthphere]

Man. UTD fans are funny.

Nice. Ignore all the facts that gone thrown your way and instead just come out with a "smart" remark. This is why you get ****, not because you're a City fan.

[ttotheusher]

Man. UTD fans are funny.

In all fairness Bapi, you've been a pantomime villain in this thread, but it has been good banter at the same time. :funny:

I really wish we'd go to a 3 man midfield. A 4-1-2-1-2 or a 4-1-3-2/4-3-1-2.

Of course, this would require a CAM.

Is Kagawa the man? I've been a Modric fan for some time now, but I can't see Spurs selling.

4-3-3 is something we really need to work towards, with greater movement and interchangeable forward play.

We do need a complete overhaul in terms of Europe, but the problem I see a lot of the time is that moving Rooney around never suits him; and let's be honest, he is our best player. Do we want to sacfrice his form for the sake of a better overall team performance?

[Scrandy Randy]

Leeds tried to compete with Man U's financial clout and it nearly destroyed the club....
Yes it was United's fault and had nothing to do with the completely irresponsible way they went about "competing". Taking out huge loans being unsure if you'll be able to repay them(essentially gambling with the clubs future) will cripple a club, has nothing to do with United.

[Hunter Rider]

You gave them credit for the last few performances while still moaning at the fact that they have "bought the title". I agree that I don't like how much they spend on wages and how they have wasted huge money on bad signings but sometimes some Man UTD fans make it sound like no one should have success but them. Let's put it this way if a multi billionaire decided to buy Leeds tomorrow I would be doing naked cartwheels down the street.

Some? every club has some of those fans, I'm not sure how often you read this thread but I have been critical of our own performances for some time, I gave nothing but credit to Barca when they mopped the floor with us and congratulated Chelsea when they won 2 seasons ago, I don't have a "we deserve" complex, I said we threw it away with an inforgiveable collapse agaisnt Everton, but City's insanity that has lopsided the game beyond belief is still the fact. I'm sure you would do cartwheels but wouldn't it be better to get a real owner in like the new people at Liverpool, who wont **** the game into the floor?

Man. UTD fans are funny.

Facts are funny eh?

[The Englishman]

Man. UTD fans are funny.

Yes they are, Darthphere's got a good joke about a sewer he might tell you...:cwink:

[Darthphere]

Is Kagawa the man? I've been a Modric fan for some time now, but I can't see Spurs selling.

I would love to get Modric but even if Spurs were selling, United would have to pay over the moon for him I feel.

[Hunter Rider]

Is Kagawa the man? I've been a Modric fan for some time now, but I can't see Spurs selling.

Well he's a lot mor of an AM than Modric is, they are very different players.

We do need a complete overhaul in terms of Europe, but the problem I see a lot of the time is that moving Rooney around never suits him; and let's be honest, he is our best player. Do we want to sacfrice his form for the sake of a better overall team performance?

If we don't move him though we'll be doomed to repeat the mistakes of this season, Rooney should be able to fit into 4-3-3, he'll just have to play further forward, and given he's not ultra quick that might work for us.

[Darthphere]

Yes they are, Darthphere's got a good joke about a sewer he might tell you...:cwink:

:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

:csad::csad:

[Scrandy Randy]

It's also some what amusing to note that United were without their best defender and midfielder for the majority of the season, we're bringing a bunch of new players into the fold(Welbeck, Cleverley, Jones, De Gea), and we'll still probably only lose the title on goal differential.

This off season im personally hoping we spend our whole transfer kitty on central midfielders. I don't have a problem really with anyone else except maybe the full back positions. Looking at names like Javi Martinez, Ever Banega, Esteban Granero, Luka Modric, Nuri Sahin, etc. It's a little unsettling to see us being linked with wingers and attacking mids so far. Hazard, Kagawa, and Gaitan are all good but players we really need? Not really.

Hoping we start out with something like this next season

-----------Welbeck---------------
Young------Rooney--------Valencia
------Carrick-------?????----------
Evra-----Vidic---Ferdinand---Rafael
------------De Gea----------------

[Darthphere]

Well he's a lot mor of an AM than Modric is, they are very different players.



If we don't move him though we'll be doomed to repeat the mistakes of this season, Rooney should be able to fit into 4-3-3, he'll just have to play further forward, and given he's not ultra quick that might work for us.

He would have to work at it because as I've said, Rooney as a lone striker hardly ever works. But with a quality attacking midfielder giving him some service, I can see him flourishing there.

[ttotheusher]

I would love to get Modric but even if Spurs were selling, United would have to pay over the moon for him I feel.

Well he's a lot mor of an AM than Modric is, they are very different players.

Modric can play anywhere and still have an impact on the game, which is why I like him. I've been silently rooting against Spurs in the PL for them to not get CL, in the hope that Modric might want to leave. Even then, City will probably just buy him.

If we don't move him though we'll be doomed to repeat the mistakes of this season, Rooney should be able to fit into 4-3-3, he'll just have to play further forward, and given he's not ultra quick that might work for us.

True, but I honestly don't think Rooney fits into any position other than a support striker role which he plays for us, he's usually pretty woeful for England when they play him in a 4-3-3. So I wouldn't be suprised if he left at some point, if he's unhappy with the formation.

On a side note, sad to see Rooney get a yellow card this game, considering his reputation I think he's been a model of discipline this season.

[Darthphere]

It's also some what amusing to note that United were without their best defender and midfielder for the majority of the season, we're bringing a bunch of new players into the fold(Welbeck, Cleverley, Jones, De Gea), and we'll still probably only lose the title on goal differential.

This off season im personally hoping we spend our whole transfer kitty on central midfielders. I don't have a problem really with anyone else except maybe the full back positions. Looking at names like Javi Martinez, Ever Banega, Esteban Granero, Luka Modric, Nuri Sahin, etc. It's a little unsettling to see us being linked with wingers and attacking mids so far. Hazard, Kagawa, and Gaitan are all good but players we really need? Not really.

Hoping we start out with something like this next season

-----------Welbeck---------------
Young------Rooney--------Valencia
------Carrick-------?????----------
Evra-----Vidic---Ferdinand---Rafael
------------De Gea----------------

Hazard has been known to play behind the striker from time to time. Its really up to him if he would be ok with that role.

I'd love to get Banega. I think he's a realistic option there.

[The Englishman]

Yes it was United's fault and had nothing to do with the completely irresponsible way they went about "competing". Taking out huge loans being unsure if you'll be able to repay them(essentially gambling with the clubs future) will cripple a club, has nothing to do with United.
I never said it was Man Uniteds fault, It was most certainly our fault, just giving you an example of how a team without Man U's financial clout could not compete with them and I'm not blaming Man u for being such a good club financially. Actually it was Uniteds fault, Leeds UNITED. That's one thing that really gets on my nerves, Man United being referred to as just United as if the name belongs solely to them...
Some? every club has some of those fans, I'm not sure how often you read this thread but I have been critical of our own performances for some time, I gave nothing but credit to Barca when they mopped the floor with us and congratulated Chelsea when they won 2 seasons ago, I don't have a "we deserve" complex, I said we threw it away with an inforgiveable collapse agaisnt Everton, but City's insanity that has lopsided the game beyond belief is still the fact. I'm sure you would do cartwheels but wouldn't it be better to get a real owner in like the new people at Liverpool, who wont **** the game into the floor?



Facts are funny eh?
fair enough.

[Hunter Rider]

It's also some what amusing to note that United were without their best defender and midfielder for the majority of the season, we're bringing a bunch of new players into the fold(Welbeck, Cleverley, Jones, De Gea), and we'll still probably only lose the title on goal differential.

This off season im personally hoping we spend our whole transfer kitty on central midfielders. I don't have a problem really with anyone else except maybe the full back positions. Looking at names like Javi Martinez, Ever Banega, Esteban Granero, Luka Modric, Nuri Sahin, etc. It's a little unsettling to see us being linked with wingers and attacking mids so far. Hazard, Kagawa, and Gaitan are all good but players we really need? Not really.

Hoping we start out with something like this next season

-----------Welbeck---------------
Young------Rooney--------Valencia
------Carrick-------?????----------
Evra-----Vidic---Ferdinand---Rafael
------------De Gea----------------

We need another attacking player because Berbatov is going and Hernandez struggles in build up play, that is why I think Kagawa and Hazard are being looked at, Fergie wants a wide attaker who can also double as a #10.

He would have to work at it because as I've said, Rooney as a lone striker hardly ever works. But with a quality attacking midfielder giving him some service, I can see him flourishing there.

This is where Kagawa or Hazard would come into play, personally I liked Gotze for the role but he signed a new deal with Dortmund.

[Scrandy Randy]

I never said it was Man Uniteds fault, It was most certainly our fault, just giving you an example of how a team without Man U's financial clout could not compete with them and I'm not blaming Man u for being such a good club financially. Actually it was Uniteds fault, Leeds UNITED. That's one thing that really gets on my nerves, Man United being referred to as just United as if the name belongs solely to them...

You could have competed though if you had got into the CL and got the money you were betting on getting when taking out those loans. Spurs for example are on the verge of being up there with the "top 4" always on the verge of getting a CL spot and that huge revenue boost. If they can get into and maintain a CL spot they'll easily be up there with the rest of the "top 4".

[The Englishman]

:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

:csad::csad:

What??? It was a funny joke...:oldrazz:

[Hunter Rider]

Modric can play anywhere and still have an impact on the game, which is why I like him. I've been silently rooting against Spurs in the PL for them to not get CL, in the hope that Modric might want to leave. Even then, City will probably just buy him.

Every time I've seen Modric play as a 10 he's been average and posed very little goal threat, I think his best role is as a ball playing CM, but I feel there are better options out there.

True, but I honestly don't think Rooney fits into any position other than a support striker role which he plays for us, he's usually pretty woeful for England when they play him in a 4-3-3. So I wouldn't be suprised if he left at some point, if he's unhappy with the formation.

If the plan is to keep Rooney as the support striker then we need to get someone in to play ahead of him that has some proven to end quality.

[Darthphere]

Every time I've seen Modric play as a 10 he's been average and posed very little goal threat, I think his best role is as a ball playing CM, but I feel there are better options out there.



If the plan is to keep Rooney as the support striker then we need to get someone in to play ahead of him that has some proven to end quality.

Yeah, I'm not really keen on Chicharito. He's a goal poacher but doesn't really have that touch. Welbeck is a work in progress. Maybe we should sign Adebayor.:o

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I'm not really keen on Chicharito. He's a goal poacher but doesn't really have that touch. Welbeck is a work in progress. Maybe we should sign Adebayor.:o

A new season a new club! The Adebayor motto, I'd love too see us get Llorente. :funny:......:(

[Scrandy Randy]

Please no Adebayor. The very definition of a mercenary, has no feelings for any of the clubs hes played for. On top of that he's not very good. I'd like to persist with Welbeck and let him hopefully improve. I love everything hes got already just hope he improves his scoring output. If not we can sign a striker in the January window.

[Hunter Rider]

Please no Adebayor. The very definition of a mercenary, has no feelings for any of the clubs hes played for. On top of that he's not very good. I'd like to persist with Welbeck and let him hopefully improve. I love everything hes got already just hope he improves his scoring output. If not we can sign a striker in the January window.

The January window is not a good time to buy quality most of the time, we shouldn't go into the season with just Welbeck and Hernandez as our only options to partner Rooney.

[ttotheusher]

If the plan is to keep Rooney as the support striker then we need to get someone in to play ahead of him that has some proven to end quality.

Yeah, I'm not really keen on Chicharito. He's a goal poacher but doesn't really have that touch. Welbeck is a work in progress. Maybe we should sign Adebayor.:o

A new season a new club! The Adebayor motto, I'd love too see us get Llorente. :funny:......:(

I was just about to say Llorente before you beat me to it Hunter, what about that Ricky van Wolfswinkel? I've seen us linked with him, any good?

My Dad is pretty upset about Hernandez, before the start of the season he had a bet on that he would score more goals than Torres, and for most of the season it's looked like he was going to win it...but Torres now has 14, with 3 games left, and Chicharito has 15, with 1 game left. Squeky bum-time indeed!

[Hunter Rider]

I was just about to say Llorente before you beat me to it Hunter, what about that Ricky van Wolfswinkel? I've seen us linked with him, any good?

My Dad is pretty upset about Hernandez, before the start of the season he had a bet on that he would score more goals than Torres, and for most of the season it's looked like he was going to win it...but Torres now has 14, with 3 games left, and Chicharito has 15, with 1 game left. Squeky bum-time indeed!

Only seen Van Wolfswinkel a few times, he looks decent but as much of a developing talent as Welbeck, not a proven top talent.

:eek: When did Torres get all those goals?

[Darthphere]

I was just about to say Llorente before you beat me to it Hunter, what about that Ricky van Wolfswinkel? I've seen us linked with him, any good?

My Dad is pretty upset about Hernandez, before the start of the season he had a bet on that he would score more goals than Torres, and for most of the season it's looked like he was going to win it...but Torres now has 14, with 3 games left, and Chicharito has 15, with 1 game left. Squeky bum-time indeed!

He should have had 2 today....:o

[ttotheusher]

I tell a lie, I've exaggerated the figures a touch...Torres has 12, Chicharito has 14. (The bet includes Internationals as well)

[the_ultimate_evil]

Man. UTD fans are funny.

Yeah we can be when we want to, maybe if you actually contributed to this thread other than the standard woodworm fan comments when city win you wouldn't get as much **** as you do

I'm at this moment on an iPod in the middle of the sea on my way back from the match. So don't want to type out my full thoughts just to say great to see the team win and a fantastic atmosphere aside from a few moronic Swansea chants

[Darthphere]

Juventus just won Serie A. Amazing when you think of the scandal they were involved in a few years back. Also, one more game to go the season unbeaten.

[chamber-music]

Thank the stars Spurs got a draw and Newcastle lost. Arsenal better win against West Brom next Sunday.

[kit1982]

Juventus just won Serie A. Amazing when you think of the scandal they were involved in a few years back. Also, one more game to go the season unbeaten.

Fantastic club, good to see them back where they belong. Is Conte still manager? He was a player, remember him scoring against United a few years ago. Juve's success came at a price poor old Ibra's lost his successive title winning record :csad:

[Darthphere]

Fantastic club, good to see them back where they belong. Is Conte still manager? He was a player, remember him scoring against United a few years ago. Juve's success came at a price poor old Ibra's lost his successive title winning record :csad:

Yeah, Conte is still manager. The team has a lot more potential than they showed honestly this season. They're going to go unbeaten but way too many draws. They can be even better next season.

[RKO]

What a great derby it was. Nothing better than to beat your rival in a great game like that and making them lose the title race at the same time.

[Darthphere]

Inter completed the double on AC Milan. Incredible considering how poor they've been this season.

[Iceman]

What a great derby it was. Nothing better than to beat your rival in a great game like that and making them lose the title race at the same time.Real Barca & Utd City not quite there but not too far off.

Congrats to Juventus! They have some loyal guys. I remember when Utd were still an inexperienced European team going against the mighty Juventus. Was aways exciting. I loved Del Piero back then. He was linked with St James Park at one stage.

[Hunter Rider]

Wow I thought Milan were clear, congrats to Juve, quite a comeback story given the last few seasons.

[Darthphere]

So West Ham are onto the playoff final. Can't really see Blackpool or Birmingham stopping them from a PL return. Who knows.

[Scrandy Randy]

http://i49.tinypic.com/2dbt0za.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/1onkaw.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/zn1l74.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/21j242h.jpg

So United are wearing picnic tablecloths/pajamas next year. I am disappoint.

[Poeman]

hahaha oh god those are beyond ugly.

Somebody made them out of pajamas

[Dr Lee]

While i like their original idea in celebrating SAF's reign.... i'm not a fan of those

[Darthphere]

I have a feeling they will be somewhat better in person.

[Dr Lee]

someone threw a live chicken onto the Blackburn pitch.....

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/SDLRob/GIFs/2ih2jdk.gif

[Darthphere]

Doesn't beat Anfield Cat.

[Poeman]

I have a feeling they will be somewhat better in person.

I rather like these unis
http://pixesm.com/imagehost/prd_maxzoom_mufc_55671_1.jpg

And no Darth...Those jerseys are going to look worse in person, trust us

http://www.latestsoccerjerseys.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x800/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/M/A/MANCHESTER_UNITED_JERSEY501_1.JPG

[Darthphere]

That's a mock up. Also, yeah, they're going to be bad, but not as bad. I need to see something that's not a out of focus pic from a cellphone.

On the other hand, look how much people complained about Arsenal's new kit and now that we have official pics, people are changing their tune.

[Poeman]

Arsenal's looks decent...Seems a bit vintage, nothing too weird there

I like black or black add ons...so the stuff around the arms are cool with him

[Darthphere]

It's navy blue.

Either way, on the United shirt I might hold off on buying that one. I usually alternate each season between home and away. I wonder if they're going to have a new 3rd kit since this year's away shirt is the same color as next season's apparently.

[Two-Face]

WTF Nike.... :csad:


Those are just terrible.

[Darthphere]

I'm hoping for an all black 3rd kit, but even that might have the Tartan design.

[Darthphere]

steve Kean needs to run out of there once the final whistle blows. I genuinely feel for his safety.

[Dr Lee]

Bye Bye Blackburn........

[Darthphere]

Steve Kean will keep his job somehow.

[ttotheusher]

My dream for Sunday is for Bolton and QPR to both get wins, Norwich to beat Villa and relegate them. I truly detest Alex Mcleish.

[Darthphere]

Bolton will have to score like 22 goals or something.

[Dr Lee]

So.... Bolton, QPR and Villa..... which one will take the last spot? I've no clue TBH

[ttotheusher]

Bolton will have to score like 22 goals or something.

Bollocks. Didn't think of that. Damn you Mcleish!

[Two-Face]

I'll will be a QPR fan for the day but I'm not gonna put my hopes though.


Jeez SAF buy some world class or get Ronnie back...... :o

[Darthphere]

So.... Bolton, QPR and Villa..... which one will take the last spot? I've no clue TBH

Bolton. I don't think they beat Stoke. QPR will draw against City.:o

Bollocks. Didn't think of that. Damn you Mcleish!

It's all those draws.

[Harry_Lime02]

That's 3 years in a row Wigan have managed to play terrible for 9/10ths of the season and then pull a few wins out at the end and stay up. Impressive.

[Dr Lee]

imagine what they could do if they played like this all season?

[Darthphere]

Finish 12th?

[B]

http://i49.tinypic.com/2dbt0za.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/1onkaw.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/zn1l74.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/21j242h.jpg

So United are wearing picnic tablecloths/pajamas next year. I am disappoint.

To my knowledge those are counterfit tops based on the real design for the top next season. The design itself is alot more suttle & doesn't stick out as much as the top in the picture above.

Think along the lines of the Liverpool kit with the triangle type design on the top, however based upon what I've seen United's design doesn't even stick out as much as that did due to the shiney material on the LFC top.

http://www.soccershirt88.com/images/dvd/man%20united%20jersey%20kit%202013%202012%20new%20 season%20shirt.jpg

Theres also a video somewhere on the net were someone walks right up to the top with his camera & the design isn't anywhere near as aggressive as the pictures you've posted in that one either.

That being said, I'm still not a fan of the chess board type design however feint it is.

[Hunter Rider]

So Blackburn are toast, Wigan once again defy the odds and I thought Martinez and Whelan conducted themselves with class at Eawood.

I guess in the end Kean has been found out. *tips hat to Kit*

Looks like Arsenal are going to add M'vila to Podolski for their summer signings, very good additions IMO.

[Darthphere]

You have to respect how Steve Kean has handled this whole thing though. He could've gone on ranting and raving, made vulgar gestures etc. No, he just stood there and took it. Terrible manager, terrible tactician but he's been class as far as I'm concerned as a human being.

[Scrandy Randy]

I'd actually put more blame on Blackburn's horrendous owners rather then Kean. Blackburn got some good results this season and the players always seemed behind Kean even after tonight when Yakubu was trying to usher Kean away from the field.

The Venkys really are poisonous.

[Lunar_Wolf]

New kit looks blah.

[Iceman]

So Blackburn are toast, Wigan once again defy the odds and I thought Martinez and Whelan conducted themselves with class at Eawood.

I guess in the end Kean has been found out. *tips hat to Kit*

Looks like Arsenal are going to add M'vila to Podolski for their summer signings, very good additions IMO.How far along is that? Time to start getting optimistic for them?!

[Darthphere]

I'd actually put more blame on Blackburn's horrendous owners rather then Kean. Blackburn got some good results this season and the players always seemed behind Kean even after tonight when Yakubu was trying to usher Kean away from the field.

The Venkys really are poisonous.

Still doesn't change the fact that Steve Kean is a terrible manager.

He could take over Barcelona and they would be fighting relegation.

[kit1982]

You have to respect how Steve Kean has handled this whole thing though. He could've gone on ranting and raving, made vulgar gestures etc. No, he just stood there and took it. Terrible manager, terrible tactician but he's been class as far as I'm concerned as a human being.

Yeh he's just taken it and picked up an improved paycheck every month, what a hero! People seem to forget he's one of the better paid managers in the league. I'd have far more respect for the man if he'd just left, I mean with his agent he'll never be sacked!

@scrandy - whilst the Venkys are poison that does not deflect from the many of Keans shortcomings, he's wasted money (£6 million) on Dann who's been shocking, £2million on 1 goal David Goodwillie, Formica, Rochina, Petrovic, Marcus Olsson, Modeste, Vukcevic and Bruno Riberio.

Lets not also forget in a match Blackburn had to win at home against local rivals they didn't manage a shot on goal for 60 mins, when they finally did have a shot on goal it was their first shot on goal in 2 and a half hours of football! Lets not forget that Bolton did the double over them, Wolves beat them at home, 3-0 away at Swansea and West Brom, 7-1 against Arsenal. Wigan West Brom and Sunderland all ended horrendous runs against them.

People said about the spirit of the players and how they were behind Kean, but when push came to shove there was 0 fight from them, then to top it off yesterday at full time Paul Robinson is the ONLY player to acknowledge the fans. The only reason half the players will even like Kean is that they can get away with doing **** all every week!

Then the most damning thing of all Keans record, as of yesterday it was

Played:59
Drawn:14
Lost:33
Won:12

In nearly 2 seasons worth of games he's got 6 more points than Norwich have got in 1 season.
How many of you would put up with him at your club? Yet what do you hear? Poor old Steve Kean. It took Kean and Venkys 59 games to ruin everything Jack Walker built.


Hunter - Yep Martinez and Whelan were top class, I'm overly critical of martinez but under all that pressure he pulled out the results whilst staying true to his way of playing, can't say fairer than that. It's funny that Wigans chairman gives more of a damn about Blackburns relegation than Blackburns chairman!

[chamber-music]

Imagine how good Wigan could be if Martinez got them to play this good all season instead of just the last few games.

Wigan could be a top 8 team

[kit1982]

The thing thats impressed me the most about Wigan is their defending, I came on earlier in the season moaning about how Martinez gets so much praise when Wigan have defended awfully, but bar United away and Arsenal at home there hasn't been the usual Wigan tonkings. Alcaraz, Caldwell seem to have really come on and I really like the fullbacks, Emerson Boyce has been awesome. Beausejour's been class aswell although I do wonder where they guy from the last World Cup who looked as good as Sanchez has gone.

I think Wigan have the same problem that Stoke seem to have and Charlton did, they don't start to play unless they have to. By that I mean as soon as they hit the safety target, they struggle to raise their game and push on.

[RKO]

Hazard: I'll wear blue next season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1065218/lille-star-eden-hazard-hints-at-manchester-city-move?cc=5901)


I hope that's Chelsea blue.

[spidey-dude]

so I'm finally home (well at work not home)

all I can say is

:(


poor performance 1st half - although felt Reina coulda saved Ramires goal - Well done Andy Carroll changed the game - coulda had em..... shoulda had em..... did it cross the line? no ****ing clue, but it wasnt given so it doesnt matter

:(

[kit1982]

Before Carroll came on you didn't half remind me of the old Liverpool at the end of Houllier's reign. It was like that Simpsons episode "he passes to the wing, back to centre, back to the wing, back to the centre again, centre holds it..... holds it...... hooooolds it". Not really sure what the gameplan was for the first 60 mins.

Chin up though mate, 1 out of 2 ain't bad. I just hope the FA didn't wipe you out financially!

[Iceman]

did it cross the line? no ****ing clue, but it wasnt given so it doesnt matterI like that attitude :up:

[spidey-dude]

Before Carroll came on you didn't half remind me of the old Liverpool at the end of Houllier's reign. It was like that Simpsons episode "he passes to the wing, back to centre, back to the wing, back to the centre again, centre holds it..... holds it...... hooooolds it". Not really sure what the gameplan was for the first 60 mins.

Chin up though mate, 1 out of 2 ain't bad. I just hope the FA didn't wipe you out financially!

unfortunately they did - would spend it all again if we were in a final tomorrow though mind - except for the result it was a great day out....

Carroll has convinced me to give him another year, if the lad can play like that every week he will be great

not sure how it came accross on tv but the atmosphere was amazing (I was right in the corner this time on the lower tier) - a few of my mates asked why Liverpool were singing over the national anthem, honest answer is I think most of us didn't realise that anyone was singing the national anthem!! we were so carried away singing fields of anfield road and youll never walk alone that me and my mate only realised that there was a woman singing the national anthem when she had almost finished! The best YNWA I have heard for a long time, and the one at the end was great too, although maybe not as many people joined in

[wobbly]

Hazard: I'll wear blue next season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1065218/lille-star-eden-hazard-hints-at-manchester-city-move?cc=5901)


I hope that's Chelsea blue.

Me too (obviously, lol). But City's sugar daddies have bigger pockets than Roman's...I just can't see us being able to offer the same wages as them.

Also, they have the Champions League for sure as well next year. Chelsea look like they will have to win the final to earn a spot.

[RKO]

Me too (obviously, lol). But City's sugar daddies have bigger pockets than Roman's...I just can't see us being able to offer the same wages as them.

Also, they have the Champions League for sure as well next year. Chelsea look like they will have to win the final to earn a spot.


The rumor right now is City don't wanna meet Hazard's high wages, and Chelsea have become the 1. target. We'll see how this ends up.

[Van Petrol]

Another missed opportunity. Though I get the feeling Hazard is another Nasri (mentality-wise).

[Van Petrol]

How far along is that? Time to start getting optimistic for them?!

Nothing is concrete. Inter are intereseted too. Though I do wonder if his possible incoming means Song potentially leaving.

[the_ultimate_evil]

Hazard: I'll wear blue next season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1065218/lille-star-eden-hazard-hints-at-manchester-city-move?cc=5901)


I hope that's Chelsea blue.

the rumours flying around radio and forums are city have offered £35 million to lille and £250,000 to £300,000 a week

yeah and city aren't just running rough shod over the transfer market:whatever:, i'm not stupid or bias i know united have paid big money for players but the money being thrown around is ridiculous. hell when the russian can't complete it is getting laughable.

[chamber-music]

Arsenal co-owner Alisher Usmanov actually is richer than Roman Abramovich but we run Arsenal as a self sustaining business and his not the major shareholder.

Sepp Blatter moaned a couple years ago about Premier League Clubs having too much debt and overpaying players.

[ttotheusher]

Tartan kit looks awful, but I thought the same about our away kit this year and it's grown on me. Quite frankly, as long as we play well I couldn't care less what we wear!

Spidey-dude, do Liverpool have a new sponser? Or is it a new logo tonight?

[B]

Liverpool are cruising here, Carroll has played well but in my eyes let himself down abit there by going down clutching his face after Ivanovic elbowed him hard in the chest, blatantly I might add. I'd have sent him off for that if I was the referee, he looked round at Carroll & knew what he was doing.

[ttotheusher]

Bad timing for Liverpool really, should of played like this at the weekend!

[RKO]

Lol my poor Blues. So many defensive errors, I was expecting a little better even if this mostly a B team. I don't think they're even taking this game seriously.

[Van Petrol]

I thought you supported United, RKO?...

[RKO]

United? LOL. I support Internazionale and Chelsea.

[Van Petrol]

Ah, I see.

[spidey-dude]

if only we had played like that on sat


Carroll, i am starting to fall in love with you - keep this up and you will boss next season la

[B]

You gotta laugh how they've completely ignored how Carroll went down clutching his face when he took a hit in the chest from Ivanovic on Sky Sports.. now if that were anyone non-English like say I dunno.. Drogba for instance, they'd never have ****ing shut up about it.

Strong performance from Liverpool tonight no doubt after some revenge, Chelsea looked fresh at the start but once the first goal went in they folded quickly, Di Matteo settled them though at half time & they at least came out abit more organised second half..

[spidey-dude]

you gotta love how they are ignorng Essiens karate kick.....

[RKO]

It was certainly a sloppy game in the defense, I don't think I've ever seen JT play so terribly.

[wobbly]

Knew we was gonna lose when I saw the team sheet....Russ Turnbull? Lol.

The guy does not do clean sheets. If it's on target it's almost always in with that clown. Terrible goalie (hard pressed to think of a game we have won when he has been in goal). Liverpools 4th was a typical example. Not just the god awful 'clearance', but the utter lack of any effort to get back and even try to stop a shot!!

Ah well, we played poorly in any event. Think a few still had hangovers (JT falling over for another gift...) from celebrating at the weekend.

[B]

you gotta love how they are ignorng Essiens karate kick.....

They showed that, as well as half a dozen other bad challenges during the game though from both sides however completely glossed over Carroll's playacting at the end. At least he did take a good hit to the chest & it wasn't like he went down after nothing had happened to him, but why did he go down clutching his face.. it just really disappointed me after him putting in such a good performance.

I don't know what I want them to say about it either they'll probably do what they normally do when someone from England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales.. but mostly England does something like this, try to blame it on the foreign players.

[Hunter Rider]

Liverpool fans must be encouraged by Carroll and Suarez playing well in the team at the same time, it's a big positive to take into next season.

It was a dominant performance by Liverpool but I don't get why Di Matteo rested so many, it's like he's put all his eggs in one basket with hoping to win the CL in order to qualify for next years competition.

As for the Carroll/Ivanovic elbow, it was a red IMO but I don't get why Carroll felt the need to pretend it hit his face, but later on Suarez also should have seen red for the cross forearm to Ivanovic's neck, yet he too pretended to be hit in the face, maybe that play acting led to the ref not issuing the red on both occasion.

Nothing is concrete. Inter are intereseted too. Though I do wonder if his possible incoming means Song potentially leaving.

I can't see any advantage to that, Song has been excellent this season. My guess is Wenger wants M'Vila as a pure holding mid and Song will now be given a box to box role in your midfield 3, where he has less defensive responsibility.

[Hunter Rider]

What's everyone's PL team of the season?

Mine!

GK: Hart

RB: Sagna
CB: Kompany
CB: Collichini
LB: Baines

LW: Silva
CM: Song
CM: Yaya
RW: Valencia

CF: RVP
CF: Rooney

Bench:
Chech
Enrique
Evans
Carrick
Cabaye
Suarez
Aguero
Ba

[spidey-dude]

Enrique? started really well but has been poor this year - has this tendancy to just hold the ball too long killing forward momentum and quite often oses it while he is out of position

[kit1982]

What's everyone's PL team of the season?

Mine!

GK: Hart

RB: Sagna
CB: Kompany
CB: Collichini
LB: Baines

LW: Silva
CM: Song
CM: Yaya
RW: Valencia

CF: RVP
CF: Rooney

Bench:
Chech
Enrique
Evans
Carrick
Cabaye
Suarez
Aguero
Ba

Can't really argue with many of those, good picks

GK Hart/Krul/Vorm/The Pole in goal (can't pick, all 4 have been superb all season)

RB Williams (I know he's primarily a centre half but he is versatile and has been awesome this year)
CB Coloccini
CB Kompany
LB Riise (despite being a ginger diving ****, he's been steady as)

LW Silva
CM Yaya
CM Song
CM Carrick
RW Valencia

ST Anthony Modeste....... I mean RVP of course

Subs

One of the keepers
Aguero
Rooney (sacrificed for Carrick)
Suarez
Holt
Barry
Dempsey
Baines

Who would you pick for Goal of the season?

Cisse ran it close but it's still Crouch for me.

Save of the season is De Gea from Coloccini at Old Trafford IMO of course.

[B]

What's everyone's PL team of the season?

Mine!

GK: Hart

RB: Sagna
CB: Kompany
CB: Collichini
LB: Baines

LW: Silva
CM: Song
CM: Yaya
RW: Valencia

CF: RVP
CF: Rooney

Bench:
Chech
Enrique
Evans
Carrick
Cabaye
Suarez
Aguero
Ba

GK: Hart

RB: Walker
CB: Kompany
CB: Evans
LB: Evra

LM: Silva
CM: Yaya Toure
CM: Song
RM: Valencia

ST: van Persie
ST: Rooney


Bench:
Krul
Simpson
Ferdinand
Bale
Mata
Adebayor
Aguero

Mostly City & United players as you'd expect given that both have been the most impressive in the league this season.

Players like Richards, De Gea, Collichini, Carrick, Nani, Lescott, Clichy, Tiote, Suarez, Ba, Cisse (Newcastle), Arteta, Ramires & several others could have easily made it into my own personal team of the year, however my reasoning for leaving them out was that they've not been impressive & consistant during the whole season regardless of the number of games they've played.

[spidey-dude]

Liverpool confirm interest in Pep Guardiola: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/3003613/Liverpool-confirm-interest-in-Guardiola.html

[Darthphere]

Pep Guardiola confirms no interest in Liverpool. :o


:oldrazz:

[Scrandy Randy]

---------------RvP--------------
Aguero------Rooney-----Valencia
---------Yaya---Carrick---------
Baines-Kompany-Coloccini-Walker
--------------Hart--------------

Bench:
Vorm
Cisse
Evans
Mata
Silva
Cabaye
Ramires

[Two-Face]

Liverpool confirm interest in Pep Guardiola: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/3003613/Liverpool-confirm-interest-in-Guardiola.html

He might go to Liverpool but if City win PL I think they're gonna get him and offer £££ more than Liverpool also Chelsea might see some interest.

[Darthphere]

Apparently, Yaya wants to head back to Barca....I guess they might offer better wages?

[Iceman]

Nothing is concrete. Inter are intereseted too. Though I do wonder if his possible incoming means Song potentially leaving.Ah I thought Song had had a good season. Is there space for both in the squad?

[Iceman]

Apparently, Yaya wants to head back to Barca....I guess they might offer better wages?Barca at their current paying levels are the new no.1 merc destination. :woot:

[chamber-music]

West Ham Striker John Carew has declared Bankrupt despite the fact he was earning £40,000-a-week at his former club Aston Villa as recently as last year.

He owes the tax man a six figure sum apperantly.

[Iceman]

These guys are crazy (bad crazy).

[ttotheusher]

Outstanding match on Channel 5 right now, Europa League final between Athletico Madrid and Athletic Bilbao.

[Iceman]

What's the score?

[ttotheusher]

2-0 Madrid, Falcao with both goals. Been a real free-flowing attacking game so far, Bilbao haven't had too many clear cut chances yet, but it's still pretty open.

[Iceman]

Sounds good, shame I can't watch it. The Spanish league can't be as bad as some say if they have two in the final where Utd, City & co all failed.

[ttotheusher]

I think because Real and Barca dominate the league most think the league is not as good.

[Iceman]

Also Darth, Blackpool are 1-0 up (2 on aggregate).

[Iceman]

I think because Real and Barca dominate the league most think the league is not as good.Yeah, obviously not as bad as Real Barca's domination suggests. Funny, those two added together only have 5 points more than Real.

[B]

Apparently, Yaya wants to head back to Barca....I guess they might offer better wages?

He said as much a week or two after joining Manchester City, he said he'd love to return to play for Barcelona again before his career is over.

I'd assume if he sticks to that mentality that he'll never sign a fresh Manchester City contract & I believe he signed a 4 or 5 year deal so your probably talking another 2 or 3 seasons with City, by that time he'll be 30/31.

That's what you get though when you are signing mercenaries, players blinded by money.

[Darthphere]

Blackpool! I hope they beat West Ham.

[Darthphere]

West Ham Striker John Carew has declared Bankrupt despite the fact he was earning £40,000-a-week at his former club Aston Villa as recently as last year.

He owes the tax man a six figure sum apperantly.

I don't understand it honestly. How do these people not have savings at least? 10% of what they earn on each paycheck would allow me to live comfortably for at least 25 years. I guess they figure they'll keep playing and they'll keep getting paid. It's amazing how across all sports these people are all so terrible with money.

[Poeman]

I don't understand it honestly. How do these people not have savings at least? 10% of what they earn on each paycheck would allow me to live comfortably for at least 25 years. I guess they figure they'll keep playing and they'll keep getting paid. It's amazing how across all sports these people are all so terrible with money.

You should ask Antoine Walker, Sprewell, Allen Iverson, and the many many more NBA players as well.

[Scrandy Randy]

Terrell Owens. He's playing in an indoor football league right now since the NFL don't want him and he ain't got any money.

[Hunter Rider]

Interesting to read all of your teams of the season. :up: I don't think it's been a great season for Fullback's.

Who would you pick for Goal of the season?

Cisse ran it close but it's still Crouch for me.

Save of the season is De Gea from Coloccini at Old Trafford IMO of course.

Those two strikes certainly stand out, I'm conflicted, on one hand Cisse's was unique, but I can't help but feel it was a little flukey, where as Crouch's was definitive and great technique, but unlike Cisse he was not pressured while taking the strike.

For me save of the season was De Gea against Chelsea from Mata's freekick, but there was also a great save by the Wolves reserve goalie where he made a reflex save of a ball that was already behind him, I just can't recall the game.

Signing of the season? I'd say Newcastle have all 3 top spots sewn up with Ba, Cabaye and Cisse.

Outstanding match on Channel 5 right now, Europa League final between Athletico Madrid and Athletic Bilbao.

I didn't know it was on and I was asleep. :( Sorry to hear Bilbao lost as I've been rooting for them since they trounced us, they play great stuff. I read Falcao scored 2, he's turned out to be a very good buy from the money they got for Aguero.

Blackpool! I hope they beat West Ham.

I'd love to see Blackpool and Holloway back in the Prem.

[Darthphere]

You still have a chance to root for Bilbao as they take on Barca in Copa Del Rey.

[spidey-dude]

Tartan kit looks awful, but I thought the same about our away kit this year and it's grown on me. Quite frankly, as long as we play well I couldn't care less what we wear!

Spidey-dude, do Liverpool have a new sponser? Or is it a new logo tonight?

it was a one off for charity

we do have new kit makers starting next season - the kit is revealed at midnight tonight, and we will not be having the club crest on the shirt, just a gold liverbird!

[Iceman]

Signing of the season? I'd say Newcastle have all 3 top spots sewn up with Ba, Cabaye and Cisse.Yep. And if Tiote had been this season he'd be there as well (along with Silva). :woot:

Aguero I said would be a great signing. He started amazingly but went off the boil for a bit during the middle of the season. I think he'll be amazing for the future though.

[ttotheusher]

Blackpool! I hope they beat West Ham.

My mate wanted me to go with him to the Play-Off Final, he's a massive West Ham fan and wanted some company for the game; I was going to go but the tickets were £40-50 plus! Screw that for sitting with the Hammers fans.

West Ham Striker John Carew has declared Bankrupt despite the fact he was earning £40,000-a-week at his former club Aston Villa as recently as last year.

He owes the tax man a six figure sum apperantly.

I don't understand how you can owe money to the taxman in the UK, surely your earnings get taxed from source? I get why in America, because they do all there own taxes. :huh:

I didn't know it was on and I was asleep. :( Sorry to hear Bilbao lost as I've been rooting for them since they trounced us, they play great stuff. I read Falcao scored 2, he's turned out to be a very good buy from the money they got for Aguero.

Madrid had the better game plan, they shut down any Bilbao runs from midfield, and pounced on the counter with Falcao as there target man...Bilbao ended up playing hoofball alot of the time, which was pretty sad to see from a team that destroyed us completely.

it was a one off for charity

I thought as such, looked a lot better than your usual logo.

[spidey-dude]

I thought as such, looked a lot better than your usual logo.

Really? not a fan myself - I like the standard chartered one, is a bit crown paintsy in terms of the text and the logo is unobtrusive.... kinda miss carlsberg mind ;)

[Dr Lee]

Was there a new sponsor on the Liverpool Shirt?

[RKO]

It's not Adidas anymore, and different Logo. Here's the alternate...


http://oi47.tinypic.com/2dvivpt.jpg


Good job.

[chamber-music]

I don't understand how you can owe money to the taxman in the UK, surely your earnings get taxed from source? I get why in America, because they do all there own taxes. :huh:

He owes the French taxman from his time at Lyon.

[spidey-dude]

It's not Adidas anymore, and different Logo. Here's the alternate...


http://oi47.tinypic.com/2dvivpt.jpg


Good job.

thats a mockup based on some info

it will be purple and have a tribal pattern on the white sleeves.... however I think the person who did that was trying to make it look bad as they didnt like the sound of it

here it is with the same info used as the other mockup just with a nice purple and lighter tribal - no changes to the design itself.... looks alright - no idea which of the 2 the actual kit will end up resembling though

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg811/scaled.php?server=811&filename=liverpool3rd.png&res=landing